Foreigners and Titles (correction)

Pigwidgeon simon at hp.inbox.as
Thu May 17 16:10:31 UTC 2001


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Milz" <absinthe at m...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote:
> > In general, all peers are Lords/Ladies - not all of their        
> > children are so; only the oldest child of a peer is a Lord/Lady   
> > (he/she will by courtesy hold one of the lesser titles of one 
> > parent), the other children do not inherit titles.  Let us       
> > (tongue-in-cheek-ly) disregard reality for a moment, and assume  
> > that Simon Branford is the Duke of Oxford and Marquess of        
> > Cambridge, having with his wife Hedwig an oldest child named     
> > Hermione and a son named Ronald, and that Dai Evans is the Earl   
> > of Pembroke and Baron of Ebbw, With one son named Harry.  
> > 
> > (Disclaimer:  Any similarity between the above and any living    
> > person is purely coincidental.  No shipping-preference should be 
> > inferred from any of the above!).
> > 
> > Simon would then be "His Grace, the Duke of Oxford", Hermione    
> > would be "The Most Honourable Lady Hermione, Marchioness of      
> > Cambridge" and Ronald would be "The Honourable Ronald Branford".  
> > The Duke may on occasion be referred to as "Lord Simon" or "Lord 
> > Branford".  
> > 
> > Ronald's children would not be termed "honourable", or anything  
> > else, as they would not be children of a peer.  Lady Hermione's   
> > children would not be termed anything, as they are not formally  
> > children of a peer until His Grace, the Duke dies.  The Duke's   
> > wife would be termed "Her Grace, the Duchess of Oxford", barring 
> > the event of a divorce.  
> 
> Wouldn't the title of Marquess of Cambridge go to Ronald rather    
> than Hermione? Because Ronald is a male and males get the titles (I 
> can't remember this minute what that is called....) But you are    
> correct that Lady Hermione's children wouldn't get any courtesy    
> titles from her, unless she marries a peer.

In older times then yes all the titles would go to the oldest male 
child. Now it would be family choice. Some still hand titles down to 
the oldest male while others choose to hand them down to the oldest 
child, irrespective of gender.

The Royal Family has, or is going to soon, introduce that succession 
goes down to the oldest child and not the oldest male. They are 
introducing this now as the next two people in direct line to the 
throne are male and so it cannot be seen as picking one person over 
another.


Yours,

Simon

the Duke of Oxford and Marquess of Cambridge

PS: Cambridge? Well I suppose it is better than being associated with 
The Marquess of Blandford





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