[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Circles and arrows

[Kathryn Cawte]

Religions are based on faith not empirical evidence. The whole point of faith is to take that leap of faith without needing proof, to take that step off the cliff knowing that someone is there to catch you. Personally I admire anyone with that kind of faith even though I do not have it myself. Like you I have a need for evidence and facts, which is probably why I am not a member of any kind of religion. 
Telling someone their religion is "wrong" is an exercisde in futility but true theological debat between members of the same religion or different religions is certainly to be encouraged. After all the point of this kind of debate is not to "win" but to acheive some kind of enlightenment, after all you will never get someone to say "I was a devout Christian/Moslem/Hindu/insert religion here but having heard your words of wisdom I suddenly realise I should be a Christian/Moslem/Hindu/etc!". And in depth study of religious works can be fun, you can use them to prove almost anything if you try hard enough - the devil can quote scripture to his own purpose :)
OK I got somewhat of my own point there but hey, you didn't have to read it.

K
(who firmly believs we should argue more and fight less)

If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor.
http://minievil.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: davewitley 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:44 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Circles and arrows


  --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "moongirlk" <moongirlk at y...> wrote:

  > kimberly
  > who tries mediation, supplication and humor to avoid conflict and 
  > wonders if anyone knows what the circles and arrows reference is 
  about

  Sounds like Oliver Wood to me - but that was wiggly lines, wasn't it?

  On a more serious note, if a religion makes statements which claim to 
  empirically verifiable, then it should be prepared to be 
  called 'wrong', and if it doesn't, one wonders whether it is worth 
  bothering with

  David


        Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
              ADVERTISEMENT
             
       
       

  ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________

  Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files!
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/

  Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying!

  Is your message...
  An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements.
  Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie.
  Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups.
  None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter.
  Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com

  Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com
  ____________________________________________________________


  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]