[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Facing The Challenge Web Site

walkthewalk999 at aol.com walkthewalk999 at aol.com
Wed Feb 13 00:21:26 UTC 2002


This is only my second post to this list, and I usually lurk, but this 
discussion will not let me stay quiet



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> "koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...> wrote:
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> > Why is it intolerant if a Christian believes that "anything to do 
> > with the occult" is dangerous?  The Bible is quite clear on that. 

You have to be kidding?  Since when is the Bible clear on anything?  There is 
so much gray in the Bible, it gives humans the chance to question ourselves.  
I bet if we put 3 theologians in a room, and they wont all agree on a single 
verse.

There is no "the" Christian way of thinking on any one topic.

I believe the bible says to take all that you have and give to the poor, and 
we should stone bad teenagers....... it is VERY clear on that.... yes?



"koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...> wrote:
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> > Why is it that if one is not willing to accept certain lifestyles, 
> > Harry Potter, or the occult, then they are intolerant.  However if 
> > one continually gives misinformation about Christianity, calls 
> > anyone and everyone a homophobe and can't understand why some 
> > people just don't like Harry Potter, then why is that person 
> > considered tolerant? Sounds pretty intolerant to me.

As a Christian who has a lesbian sister, I think anyone that believes that 
all Christians think the same way about homosexuality needs to rethink this.  
My sister's "lifestyle" includes....... paying her mortage, going to work, 
working overtime, making car payments, fixing dinner, an occasional beer, 
going to church, working at a homeless shelter on weekends, etc........ hell 
of a "lifestyle". 

She leads more of a Christian "lifestyle" than most Christians I know!!



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> > It is not intolerant to raise a child on what God has to say.   
> > 
> > Not every person who calls themselves a Christian *is* one.  

And who made you judge a jury?  What does God have to say......  "Judge not 
that ye be not judged....... and why beholdest though the mote in your 
brothers eye and considerith not the beam in your own?



> "koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...> wrote:
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> > I have no problem with Focus on the Family.  What is wrong with 
> > someone or some group having a high set of morals and living their 
> > lives based on the Bible? 


I DO!!!  I have major problems with Focus on the Family.  They have the right 
to believe what they want, but dont try to make it the law and force me to 
live by your beliefs.  If people think abortion is wrong, dont have one.  If 
you think homosexuality is wrong, dont have gay sex.    

If focus on the family wants to preach to the choir fine, but my sister's 
civil rights should not be infringed upon because of their religion.  The 
Constitution is the Law of THIS land, NOT the bible.

I will defend yours or anyones right to freedom of your religion (including 
Wicca, Buddhist, etc...) freedom of speech (including the KKK, and James 
Dobson or Howard Stern), and freedom to live by your moral convictions, just 
dont make me have to practice your religious convictions if they conflict 
with mine.

Linda..... who is sorry for the rant, and will go back to lurking now


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