Draco and Hermione?(From HPFGU)

[Lilac]

I have to respond to this in OT  I said in my post on the main hpfgu list:

"Whenever I read something about a H/D ship, I get the awful picture of 
that really evil Nazi guy from Schindler's List, who is attracted to 
his Jewish maid.  Not your most healthy relationship, but I think a very 
true parallel to a possible H/D ship.  IMO, Draco can like Hermione all 
he wants, he would just have to make some major 180 degree changes for 
her to ever consider that she might possibly like him.  Also imo, Draco 
has some emotional baggage that would rival Snape's anyday.  Imagine 
the kind of home-life Draco must have. <shudders at the thought>"

Jenny replied:

"A couple of quick comments here.  First of all, I am quite confused by 
what you wrote.  Are you implying that Hermione is in any way a 
subordinate of Draco's?  Even though Draco may at times (and I don't 
think he feels this way all the time) feel he is superior to a 
muggle-born such as Hermione, there is no evidence anywhere in any of 
the books that Draco sees Hermione as someone who serves him or should 
serve him."  

Me:

No, I was not implying that she is inferior and should serve Draco like a maid, but I can understand why you inferred that.  The parallel my mind came up with was in the movie version (haven't read the book yet, obviously), Ralph Fiennes' character couldn't afford to have a "relationship" with a Jew (parallel to a Mudblood), so he berated and beat her so she wouldn't even be a temptation, like Kathy said of Draco:

"And remembering back to my school days - the boys 
were always attacking girls they liked..so Hermione just may be 
someone that Draco admires, only being of such low birth (according 
to his own heritage)he cannot afford to like her...so he calls her 
names so she won't even be a temptation."


Jenny:

"Your comments also made it seem like Draco has a 
sadomasochistic (did I spell that correctly even partially?) 
attraction to Hermione.  I see nothing even hinted at in his 
relationship with his parents to show me that physical discipline is a 
part of his life... or his parents' sexual lives, which might account 
for a strange attraction like the one you set up."

Me:

I wasn't very clear on that point, so it's no wonder that you thought this. I don't think he's witnessed any s&m from his parents sexual lives.  But I do think Draco's family is very dysfuntional (show me a family who *doesn't* have some level of dysfuntion) in the way Draco acts towards others.  I think that Draco is probably verbally abused, being raised by an evil man who, like his idol Lord Voldemort, uses put-downs and threats to force his underlings and Draco to do his bidding.  IMO, Draco hasn't fallen far from the tree, and this verbal assault is his "modus operandi" (sp?) just like dear old dad's.  I've heard a saying once:  "See how a man treats his inferiors and that will show you his true character".  No, Hermione is definitely *not* an inferior of  Draco's, but he obviously percieves that she is because of all his cutting remarks towards her.

Jenny:

"Second, the scene in the film version of Schindler's List where Ralph 
Fiennes seems to be attracted to his maid is a fictionalized account 
of what really happened.  In reality, he beat her all the time and 
starved her as well.  He never looked at her sexually.  I am happy to 
explain more about this offlist or on OTC if anyone is interested."

Me:

I am definitely interested in knowing more facts than the fictionalized accounts from the movie, which I only watched once, so maybe I'm not even remembering it correctly.  Truth be told, I couldn't even watch Schindler's List until about 2 years ago.  I knew it would be heart wrenchingly graphic, and I had to be in the mood to cry a lot.   And boy, did I cry...that was one good bawling session.  And a very long one at that.  Even when watching it, I did so with one eye shut  (I used to be able to watch all kinds of violence, but now that I'm older, I don't have the stomach for it anymore.  I probably only saw about 20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan", as I blocked my eyes for most of it). 

Like I said, I've only seen Sch. List that one time and I don't know if I could have even read the book.  That might take another few years before I'm ready for that. So, maybe you can inform me of what really happened, keeping in mind that I get queasy with graphic violence   


Jenny:
"I don't know if my response makes much sense here; I am just baffled 
by your comments and wanted to address them."


Me:

Thank-you for bringing your comments to my attention.  It gave me a chance to (hopefully) clarify some things.  In summary, I believe that Draco and the evil Nazi from the movie had to separate themselves from the Mudblood/Jew, using what came naturally to them:  Draco- verbal abuse.  Nazi- verbal and physical abuse.  I believe that Draco is the way he is because he has a father who is verbally abusive.

Here's a question for you, Jenny.  Was that Nazi abused as a child?  Or is his violent streak more from his association with the Nazi regime?

Lilac =)

(who loves and admires Hermione very much)



 

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