looks/personality - personality/gender - hair - swimsuit - Sunday

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sun Mar 3 21:28:28 UTC 2002


Tabouli wrote:

> of a buxom tailor's assistant taking three inches out of a set of 
> shoulder-straps and adding two darts to make a dress fit, telling 
> Tabouli condescendingly 

I might be happier with my clothes if I weren't too cheap (or too 
phobic, see below) to take them to a professional for alterations. I 
WOULD be happier with my clothes if I lived in a place where the 
(indoor and outdoor) temperature was in the 60-65Fahrenheit range all 
the time: I occasionally try to wear a pretty but long-sleeved blouse 
or sweater, or to wear a nice jacket or vest(waistcoat) over my skirt 
and top, and usually the damn temperature goes up to 72 outdoors and 
70 inside and I get so overheated that I sweat and flush with big red 
blotches over all my visible skin and feel VERY uncomfortable indeed, 
and am unable to concentrate on my work....

> One described them as "bovine". You mean, white men *like* them
> like that? EWW!

My own experience is that white men DON'T, either.

> What say ye? How have your looks affected your life (outside the
> clothing domain)? 

I must be careful answering this question, or I may drift into a 
rant, and be WAY too personal... I often wonder if I would have grown 
up to be a different, more outgoing, less rebellious person if I 
hadn't been fat and ugly my whole life (and taunted for it in youth, 
of course). Maybe I wouldn't experience meeting new people and going 
to unfamiliar places (e.g. a shop that I haven't gone to before and 
sells something that I am not an expert in) so VERY frightening that 
it is a very unpleasant experience that I would rather avoid (I once 
read a description of the symptoms of Social Phobia, and that is me). 
If I weren't so eager to avoid people, would I have become a bookworm 
and a [more or less] good student and a computer pgmmer (maybe the 
only job where one can hide in cubicle and avoid going out on sales 
pitches)? If not, who would I be? 

Mary Ann replied to Tabouli:

> *You* try standing at a bar when you're 5'2" with DD cleavage. 
> Amazing how all the hetero guys "need" to lean over me and look
> down for some reason or another.

I'm between 5'2" and 5'3" and busty (as previously mentioned) and I 
can't remember the last time a man tried to look down my shirt.... 
maybe because I don't stand up at bars, I insist on sitting. Barstool 
or booth.

Terry van Ettinger wrote:

> Let me just ask you all this by way of demonstration. Which gender
> do you take me for?  

I find that I have been consistently assuming you to be female. If 
I'm right, you may have said so somewhere. If I'm wrong (and so 
embarrassed), I may be making an assumption from the name Terry: I 
have known men named Terry but if I see the name in writing (e.g. on 
TO: list of a memo) before meeting the person, I am surprised to find 
out that it's male.

Cindy wrote:

> As for me, I'm kinda stuck in a rather sad 1970's hair time warp.
> Same basic hair style for 20 straight years. (snip) There was the 
> dreaded short hair experiment a few years  back. ::shudder:: Short 
> hair looks so good on . . . actresses and supermodels. 

Short hair DOES look good on some real-life women whom I know, 
probably they have oval faces and single chins despite being plump 
with middle-aged skin. I am not one of them: it is ESSENTIAL that my 
hair hide as much of my face as is possible without blocking my 
vision or my mouth.

I've worn my hair the same style all my life: hanging down loose: no 
curlers, no braids, no pinning up... when I was a small child, my 
mother kept getting it cut short with "pixie" bangs. As soon I was 
able to wrest control of my hair away from her, I let it grow long 
(but it refuses to grow as long as I want) and No Bangs. Occasionally 
effort to braid it, put it in a chignon, move the part away from dead 
center, all failed because I have very stubborn hair.  

When I was... 23?... in 1980? ... I got my hair cut short. It didn't 
look good on me (except once the beautician did something that made 
it curl around the edges and I looked adorable until I slept on it) 
but it was wonderfully cool and it dried instantly when I washed it 
... but I always procrastinated going back to the hair salon (because 
of social phobia, see above) and one time I procrastinated so long 
that my hair accidentaly grew back long, so I just let it be.

Cindy wrote:

> the Tankini. It is the Prince of Lies. It is designed to make sure
> a roll of tummy flab is plainly visible at all times. That is the
> only purpose of the Tankini, so far as I can tell. Oh, sure, 
> long-waisted people look good in a tankini. But they just don't
> work for short-waisted people like me. (snip) Do they really not
> know what looks good on people? Ahem.

I assume that Tankinis, like all these crop-tops that are in style 
this generation, look good on extremely slim girls who work out 
regularly and can show off their magnificently arousing flat bellies. 
The opposite of me! But I would have thought that the tank top part 
would cover more of the belly of a shortwaisted person than of a 
longwaisted person of the same circumference.

If the stores offer swimsuits that look good enough on the rack that 
customers can't resist buying them, but bad enough on the customer 
that she has to go back shopping for another, that will be good for 
the profit margin. 

Michelle wrote:

> Is their anyone who can give me a reason to like Sundays, apart
> from chat?

Sundays I don't have to go to my job so I can sleep as late as I 
like, except that in my time zone chat starts at noon so I have to 
get up for it. When I was young and energetic, I would often use the 
day off work to go to museums or go shopping.






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