From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct  2 01:54:35 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:54:35 -0500
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
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Okay, this is a really odd topic, so I thought I'd post here.  In recent
days there have been many comments about Sirius Black, I lost count of those
who want to marry him. :)  Then there are quite a few still swooning over
Lockhart.  And the Snape lovers are around too.  But what about Lupin?  Am I
the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, of course. :)  He
seems just my type, so long as he takes his wolfsbane potion.  I just don't
want the poor guy to be left out! :)

Richelle

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From olivia at serpensortia.com  Wed Oct  2 04:26:21 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:26:21 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <01b001c269b6$a92f2a00$c69ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHMEPCCBAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Richelle asked:
"what about Lupin?  Am I the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were
real, of course. :)  He seems just my type, so long as he takes his
wolfsbane potion.  I just don't want the poor guy to be left out! :)"

Just as long as you don't expect a diamond ring from Tiffany's. :)

I don't know if marriage ever entered my mind because, like you said, he is
a fictional character :), but I like the character a lot. He seems extremely
intelligent, kind, soft-spoken, and very fair. Like how he insisted on Harry
knowing the entire story where Sirius and Peter were concerned. I'm anxious
to see more of him in later books.

Hopefully Rowling will put a little meat on his bones, give him some new
robes and a nice leather atache case. You know, spiff him up a bit. He seems
like he could use a shopping spree and a few hours at a spa.

Olivia :)




From voicelady at mymailstation.com  Wed Oct  2 11:26:33 2002
From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:26:33 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <id.02102002072633.00000@FPE>

I've already married Lupin! <vbg>  It's such a shame really.  Hubby is an amazing actor to whom big things are really starting to happen.  I've always thought he'd be the perfect Remus Lupin - my favorite adult character - but unfortunately, he isn't British. *sigh*

Jeralyn, the Voicelady - emerging from deep, dark lurkdom
--------------------------------------------------------------

[snip]  But what about Lupin?  Am I the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, of course. :)  He seems just my type, so long as he takes his wolfsbane potion.  I just don't want the poor guy to be left out! :)

Richelle

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  2 13:07:02 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:07:02 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is a really odd topic, so I thought I'd post here.  In 
recent
> days there have been many comments about Sirius Black, I lost 
count of those
> who want to marry him. :)  Then there are quite a few still 
swooning over
> Lockhart.  And the Snape lovers are around too.  But what about 
Lupin?  Am I
> the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, of 
course. :)  He
> seems just my type, so long as he takes his wolfsbane potion.  I 
just don't
> want the poor guy to be left out! :)
> 
> Richelle

*giggle*  I like Lupin!  And I still picture Ewan MacGregor in the 
role :P.   He's just so....vulnerable, and yet so powerful when it 
comes to his magical talent.  What was it Cassie Claire said?  The 
only thing worse than having a crush on a fictional character is 
having a crush on a married DEAD fictional character (James 
Potter!).  LOL!!  Honestly, I like all the HP men.  Okay, now I am 
feeling sick and twisted.  Somebody help me here, I'm looking pretty 
silly.... :D

Alora





From bray.262 at osu.edu  Wed Oct  2 11:46:53 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:46:53 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Boy by Dahl
Message-ID: <10162A7389@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

Well, I read Boy last night.  I was not expecting it to be 
about himself.  It was wonderful. I loved it.  Especially 
how you could see where he got some of his ideas for 
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.  I was a bit taken aback 
by the beatings, though.  Geesh.  I mean, my school had 
paddling (and unfortunately, I was the recipient of one in 
the 7th grade but that's a whole other story and it puts me 
in a really bad light and I'd rather keep up appearances 
that I'm a sweet, quiet and caring individual so....I'll 
just leave it at that) but nothing even remotely close to 
what he went through.  Good lord.  I loved the pieces of 
the letters from home that he added.  The spelling cracked 
me up and it was cute how it would back-up what he was 
writing about.  The car wreck made me a bit wibble, though. 
 But, all in all, excellent.

Thanks for the recommendation.  BFG is next.  I've only 
read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and James and the 
Giant Peach so it's been fun to rediscover Dahl.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From olivia at serpensortia.com  Wed Oct  2 15:50:38 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:38 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <10162A7389@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rachel Bray [mailto:bray.262 at osu.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:47 AM
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl


  Well, I read Boy last night.  I was not expecting it to be
  about himself.  It was wonderful. I loved it.  Especially
  how you could see where he got some of his ideas for
  Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.  I was a bit taken aback
  by the beatings, though.  Geesh.  I mean, my school had
  paddling (and unfortunately, I was the recipient of one in
  the 7th grade but that's a whole other story and it puts me
  in a really bad light and I'd rather keep up appearances
  that I'm a sweet, quiet and caring individual so....I'll
  just leave it at that) but nothing even remotely close to
  what he went through.  Good lord.  I loved the pieces of
  the letters from home that he added.  The spelling cracked
  me up and it was cute how it would back-up what he was
  writing about.  The car wreck made me a bit wibble, though.
  But, all in all, excellent.

  Thanks for the recommendation.  BFG is next.  I've only
  read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and James and the
  Giant Peach so it's been fun to rediscover Dahl.

  Rachel Bray
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  Fees & Deposits

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  get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'

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From olivia at serpensortia.com  Wed Oct  2 15:51:31 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:51:31 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <10162A7389@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHKEPJCBAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Rachel said:
"Thanks for the recommendation.  BFG is next.  I've only
read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and James and the
Giant Peach so it's been fun to rediscover Dahl."

If you haven't already, you should read Matilda as well. It's a charming
book and Matilda has a few things in common with Harry Potter. :)

Olivia.




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Wed Oct  2 16:07:19 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:07:19 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHKEPJCBAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>
Message-ID: <001301c26a2d$c9893440$7cc5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 
 
Olivia said:  

If you haven't already, you should read Matilda as well. It's a charming
book and Matilda has a few things in common with Harry Potter. :)

 
My response: 
 
I read "Matilda" once when I was in sixth grade, and again a couple of
years ago.  Wonderful wonderful book.  When I first began reading "Harry
Potter and the Sorcerer'a Stone" I honestly thought the storytelling was
a bit like Dahl's.  Anyone agree, or am I the only oddball?  Reading
that made me want to reread "Matilda" again.  
 
I haven't read "James and the Giant Peach" well, I've had it READ to me,
but I'd love to read that, and Dahl's other books as well.  Too bad I
don't live near a library ;) 
 
Jennifer 


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From erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  2 17:25:06 2002
From: erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com (erisedstraeh2002)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:25:06 -0000
Subject: Dahl's "Lucky Break" (WAS: Boy by Dahl)
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Has anyone read Dahl's short story entitled "Lucky Break"?  It 
describes how he came to be a writer.  It's really excellent, and 
demonstrates how much influence a teacher can have on a child.  He 
mentions the beatings there as well, and I was also appalled.

~Phyllis




From speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  2 20:11:57 2002
From: speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com (frankielee242)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:11:57 -0000
Subject: Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <10162A7389@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <anfjud+pvk8@eGroups.com>

Rachel Bray wrote:
> Well, I read Boy last night.  >>>SNIP<<<
> 
> Thanks for the recommendation.  BFG is next.  I've only 
> read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and James and the 
> Giant Peach so it's been fun to rediscover Dahl.

Boy is only the first of his two autobiographies!! I highly, highly
HIGHLY recomend Going Solo. His encounter with the British Raj and U.
N. Savory on the boat ride to Africa left me helpless in tears of
laughter. The stories of his experiences in the african based RAF are
absoluting harrowing, but the photograph he took of the world's
largest standing arch by rigging a gun trigger to his camera shutter
is beautiful.

I would also like to take this opportunity to recomend The Giraffe and
The Pelly and Me.


Frankie, who is related to the Tom who beat Captain Najork and his
hired sportsmen.


Rachel Bray wrote:
> I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
> get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'

Testify, sister!  =P




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Wed Oct  2 16:59:38 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 16:59:38 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Boy by Dahl
Message-ID: <154D4C54DB@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

>The stories of his experiences in the african based RAF are
>absoluting harrowing, but the photograph he took of the 
>world's largest standing arch by rigging a gun trigger to 
>his camera shutter is beautiful.

Actually, a picture of that is in Boy, too.  He had a bunch 
of pictures from his childhood and young adulthood here and 
there throughout the book.

I'll put that book on my list of "to read", though.  I'm 
eager to hear about his time in Africa and the such since 
he said he was so excited about going.


Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Oct  3 00:57:00 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:57:00 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <10162A7389@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <3D9C227C.26372.43A80C@localhost>

On 2 Oct 2002 at 11:46, Rachel Bray wrote:

> Well, I read Boy last night.  I was not expecting it to be 
> about himself.  It was wonderful. I loved it.  Especially 
> how you could see where he got some of his ideas for 
> Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.  I was a bit taken aback 
> by the beatings, though.  Geesh.  I mean, my school had 
> paddling (and unfortunately, I was the recipient of one in 
> the 7th grade but that's a whole other story and it puts me 
> in a really bad light and I'd rather keep up appearances 
> that I'm a sweet, quiet and caring individual so....I'll 
> just leave it at that) but nothing even remotely close to 
> what he went through.  

Just an observation - people who went to school with Dahl, say that his descriptions 
of the beatings he received at Repton are exagerated (although the rat incident at 
his prep school does appear true), and the description of the bare bottom caning of 
a friend is a total fabrication (although it is possible Dahl, as he is reporting it 
second hand, believed it to be true). Fiction writers sometimes have a hard time not 
embellishing things a bit.

Caning is certainly unpleasant (believe me, I know) and it certainly *can* be brutal - 
but Boy doesn't really give a true impression according to others who were there.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
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"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From john at queerasjohn.com  Thu Oct  3 01:08:48 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 02:08:48 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <3D9C227C.26372.43A80C@localhost>
Message-ID: <B9C15730.2998%john@queerasjohn.com>

Shaun Hately said:

> Just an observation - people who went to school with Dahl, say that his
> descriptions of the beatings he received at Repton are exagerated (although
> the rat incident at his prep school does appear true), and the description of
> the bare bottom caning of a friend is a total fabrication (although it is
> possible Dahl, as he is reporting it second hand, believed it to be true).
> Fiction writers sometimes have a hard time not embellishing things a bit.
> 
> Caning is certainly unpleasant (believe me, I know) and it certainly *can* be
> brutal - but Boy doesn't really give a true impression according to others who
> were there.

I'm not necessarily sure that's true, Shaun. If you watch the film _If..._,
starring Malcolm MacDowall, which was released in the late 1960s, you'll see
that the practice of caning was still prevalent in the British public school
establishment. I watched a documentary about _If..._ three years ago and
they described how caning was outlawed during the 60s (possibly into the
early 70s).

Just my ha'p'orth,

--John

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct  3 02:10:39 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:10:39 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Men of Harry Potter
References: <aner1m+s3r5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01c001c26a82$129bfa60$979fcdd1@istu757>

Olivia wrote:
>
> Just as long as you don't expect a diamond ring from Tiffany's. :)
>

No, I suppose not.  Wonder if he can carve?  A nice wooden engraved ring
might be something different. :)

Alora wrote:

> *giggle*  I like Lupin!  And I still picture Ewan MacGregor in the
> role :P.   He's just so....vulnerable, and yet so powerful when it
> comes to his magical talent.  What was it Cassie Claire said?  The
> only thing worse than having a crush on a fictional character is
> having a crush on a married DEAD fictional character (James
> Potter!).  LOL!!  Honestly, I like all the HP men.  Okay, now I am
> feeling sick and twisted.  Somebody help me here, I'm looking pretty
> silly.... :D

Yes, I suppose that is sad, a crush on a married, dead, fictional character.
I mean, that's three strikes against him!  However, I suppose I should admit
that if I can't have Lupin :) I could go for a younger man--Oliver Wood. ;)

Richelle

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  3 02:43:19 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 02:43:19 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <01c001c26a82$129bfa60$979fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <angas7+ok2b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:

> Yes, I suppose that is sad, a crush on a married, dead, fictional 
character.
> I mean, that's three strikes against him!  However, I suppose I 
should admit
> that if I can't have Lupin :) I could go for a younger man--Oliver 
Wood. ;)
> 
> Richelle

 Ahhh, Oliver Wood, the Quidditch obsessed man ;).  I'm so glad they 
went with Sean Biggerstaff in that role.  Wood never seemed "burly" 
to me, not to be a Quidditch player.  I picture a team all pretty 
well fit and trim.  I suppose it all depends on what someone 
terms "burly."  BTW, how's the costume going? 

Alora




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Oct  3 02:45:01 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:45:01 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <B9C15730.2998%john@queerasjohn.com>
References: <3D9C227C.26372.43A80C@localhost>
Message-ID: <3D9C3BCD.14578.366559@localhost>

On 3 Oct 2002 at 2:08, Queer as John wrote:

> I'm not necessarily sure that's true, Shaun. If you watch the film _If..._,
> starring Malcolm MacDowall, which was released in the late 1960s, you'll see
> that the practice of caning was still prevalent in the British public school
> establishment. I watched a documentary about _If..._ three years ago and
> they described how caning was outlawed during the 60s (possibly into the
> early 70s).

I think there is confuion here John.

Caning was certainly common in British schools - and it wasn't banned until the late 
1980s in state schools, and only a couple of years ago in private schools. The issue 
isn't whether caning occurred. It most certainly did - and as I said it can be brutal.

What I specifically said was that " people who went to school with Dahl, say that his 
descriptions of the beatings he received at Repton are exagerated (although the rat 
incident at his prep school does appear true), and the description of the bare bottom 
caning of a friend is a total fabrication (although it is possible Dahl, as he is 
reporting it second hand, believed it to be true)."

I made no comment on caning in general - I happen to know a fair bit about it, as it 
has come up sometimes in anti-bullying work I do (a fair amount of the research is 
British and some people feel the banning of corporal punishment has an impact in 
that area), and I was also caned myself at school only a little over a decade ago 
here in Australia. I know the cane was used in British schools and used widely, and 
if I wanted to take a few minutes to check some books, I could find real examples of 
what Dahl included in Boy. My specific comments related however to what Roald 
Dahl experienced at his school - and school friends of his have said, that in *his* 
specific case, and at that *specific* school, what he describes in Boy is not a 
realistic depiction of what actually happened.

No general commentary - just specifics as relates to that book, and that school.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct  3 03:23:46 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:23:46 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Men of Harry Potter
References: <angas7+ok2b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <025501c26a8c$4a280e60$979fcdd1@istu757>

>  Ahhh, Oliver Wood, the Quidditch obsessed man ;).  I'm so glad they
> went with Sean Biggerstaff in that role.  Wood never seemed "burly"
> to me, not to be a Quidditch player.  I picture a team all pretty
> well fit and trim.  I suppose it all depends on what someone
> terms "burly."  BTW, how's the costume going?
>
> Alora

Exactly as I pictured the team as well.  I like tall, slender men. :)

The costume is coming along slowly. :)  I haven't had much time to stitch on
the Gryffindor crest, but I should be able to get a good bit done over the
next couple of days.  School (work) has been canceled due to Hurricane Lili.
I did buy a "frog" to use for a closure on the front of the robe.  It zips,
but I'm leaving the zipper open so I can stick my wand inside.  I'm getting
excited about this!  Can't wait to get my wand!

Richelle




From candlewick4 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  3 03:34:56 2002
From: candlewick4 at yahoo.com (candlewick4)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 03:34:56 -0000
Subject: The Whizzo Chocolate Company
In-Reply-To: <a8t5vh+ma8c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <angdt0+m357@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "usergoogol" <usergoogol at y...> wrote:
> I haven't been around these parts in ages, but I just heard this at 
> montypython.net and I was drawn to think of Harry Potter, and then 
I 
> thought of all you lovely HP4GU guys.
> 
> http://www.montypython.net/scripts/crunchy.php

I was watching a DVD of Monty Python (the lumberjack song is on the 
one I had) when up comes a sketch mentioning one "Harold Potter".  
How peculiar....  ;)

http://www.montypython.net/scripts/sci-fi.php

Candlewick - whose name is a reflection of her real name, and so is 
quite clever, only noone knows it...





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  3 04:57:36 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 04:57:36 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <025501c26a8c$4a280e60$979fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <angio0+drc3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> Exactly as I pictured the team as well.  I like tall, slender 
men. :)
> 
> The costume is coming along slowly. :)  I haven't had much time to 
stitch on
> the Gryffindor crest, but I should be able to get a good bit done 
over the
> next couple of days.  School (work) has been canceled due to 
Hurricane Lili.
> I did buy a "frog" to use for a closure on the front of the robe.  
It zips,
> but I'm leaving the zipper open so I can stick my wand inside.  
I'm getting
> excited about this!  Can't wait to get my wand!
> 
> Richelle

Richelle, 

I had forgotten that you were in LA.  Will you be evacuating?
Also, when I received the wand, I e-mailed the wandmaker to tell her 
that there was no stain on the tip of the wand.  LOL  Silly me!  
That is glow in the dark paint on there for "Lumos."  She told me I 
could sand it off if I wanted to, but my son said, "No!  I want it 
to glow!"  And it does.  We sat around in our utility room the day 
we got it saying "lumos" and giggling.  It was so fun.  You've 
inspired me to be a HP character for Halloween.  I'm having trouble 
finding something for a robe, though.  Any suggestions?  I don't 
have a college grad robe....*sniff*

Alora




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct  3 11:32:33 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 06:32:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Men of Harry Potter
References: <angio0+drc3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00bf01c26ad0$925ceae0$46a3cdd1@istu757>

> Richelle,
>
> I had forgotten that you were in LA.  Will you be evacuating?

No, I'm staying put.  It has weakend shortly before striking, from 145 mph
winds to "only" 100 mph winds, a category 2 hurricane.  It moved a little
further westward than they were saying it would last night.  I'm on the east
side of it, which means plenty of wind, rain, and storms, but it could be a
whole lot worse!  I'm just happy I've still got electricity.  Which is why
I'm out of bed at 6:30 a.m. on a day that school's been canceled.

> That is glow in the dark paint on there for "Lumos."  She told me I

How neat!

> inspired me to be a HP character for Halloween.  I'm having trouble
> finding something for a robe, though.  Any suggestions?  I don't
> have a college grad robe....*sniff*
>
> Alora

Well, when I was at the mall last week I saw the new "cloaks" for winter.
They look a bit like a robe.  A little warm, but they do look nice.  They
even come in red for a Quidditch uniform. :)

Richelle

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"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Thu Oct  3 09:19:40 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 09:19:40 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: One last thing about Boy
Message-ID: <25A3166753@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

I knew something about the book was familiar....then it 
dawned on me last night.

Meg Ryan's character in the movie You Got Mail was reading 
the mouse scene aloud in her bookstore.

Ah-ha!

Anyway.....

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  3 22:36:39 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:36:39 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHMEPCCBAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>
Message-ID: <anigpn+4kbm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Olivia" <olivia at s...> wrote:

> Just as long as you don't expect a diamond ring from 
> Tiffany's. :)


Okay, this may be because I'm a hick from central California 
and has never had the opportunity to go into Tiffany's (let 
alone the cash), and the answer may be patently obvious, but 
I have to admit, I don't quite "get" this statement.  Are 
diamond rings from Tiffany's all made of silver?  Are 
werewolves also adversely affected by diamonds?  The former 
question is probably the correct one and I'm outing myself 
as one hopelessly oblivious concerning all things "jewelry" 
(never wear the stuff... well, except for my wedding ring).  
Someone please clue me in, here!

Maybe it's just that Lupin wouldn't be able to afford it, and 
I'm totally clueless?  Boy, if that's the answer, I'll be 
really embarrassed.

;)

Jen, who had a romantic dream about Lupin way back when - 
I'm sure you could find that post in the archives somewhere...




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct  4 01:39:55 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:39:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Men of Harry Potter
References: <anigpn+4kbm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00cc01c26b46$f453a380$c89fcdd1@istu757>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Olivia" <olivia at s...> wrote:
>
> > Just as long as you don't expect a diamond ring from
> > Tiffany's. :)

Jen writes:

> Okay, this may be because I'm a hick from central California
> and has never had the opportunity to go into Tiffany's (let
> alone the cash), and the answer may be patently obvious, but
> I have to admit, I don't quite "get" this statement.  Are
> diamond rings from Tiffany's all made of silver?  Are
> werewolves also adversely affected by diamonds?  The former

> Maybe it's just that Lupin wouldn't be able to afford it, and
> I'm totally clueless?  Boy, if that's the answer, I'll be
> really embarrassed.

I think that's the answer.  Tiffany's is really, really, really expensive.
Or else I don't get it either. :)

Richelle

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"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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****





From olivia at serpensortia.com  Fri Oct  4 01:48:01 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:48:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c26b46$f453a380$c89fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHCEBFCCAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Jen writes:
> Okay, this may be because I'm a hick from central California
> and has never had the opportunity to go into Tiffany's (let
> alone the cash), and the answer may be patently obvious, but
> I have to admit, I don't quite "get" this statement.  Are
> diamond rings from Tiffany's all made of silver?  Are
> werewolves also adversely affected by diamonds?

> Maybe it's just that Lupin wouldn't be able to afford it, and
> I'm totally clueless?  Boy, if that's the answer, I'll be
> really embarrassed.

Richelle writes:
> I think that's the answer.  Tiffany's is really, really, really expensive.
> Or else I don't get it either. :)

That's exactly what I meant, Richelle. Rowling really stressed the fact that
Lupin is poor. (Which makes me wonder about the dynamics of his relationship
with the wealthy James and possibly-wealthy Sirius.)

I somehow got on the Tiffany's mailing list, even though I live in Maine and
have never actually been to New York. :) If you ever want a $2,000
paperweight, Tiffany's is the place to go.

Sorry, it was a bad joke, and I didn't mean to confuse anyone. I forgot
about the werewolf/silver bullets thing. :)

Olivia.




From dalesian at shaw.ca  Fri Oct  4 01:55:32 2002
From: dalesian at shaw.ca (Teri Gardner)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 18:55:32 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <01b001c269b6$a92f2a00$c69ecdd1@istu757>
References: <amq9cu+v55j@eGroups.com> <017901c26438$a50c7b40$cda0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021003185335.00a195d0@shawmail>

Well, considering I'm not the marrying type, out of the Marauders, Lupin is 
the only one I really like.  Wouldn't want to marry him though...in fact, 
even though I'm a die hard Snape fanatic, I wouldn't want to marry him 
either.  Now, having Snape around for other things, I'm so very there.

As for Lupin...I feel a highschool girl crush coming on.  ;)

Teri

At 08:54 PM 01/10/02 -0500, you wrote:

>Okay, this is a really odd topic, so I thought I'd post here.  In recent
>days there have been many comments about Sirius Black, I lost count of those
>who want to marry him. :)  Then there are quite a few still swooning over
>Lockhart.  And the Snape lovers are around too.  But what about Lupin?  Am I
>the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, of course. :)  He
>seems just my type, so long as he takes his wolfsbane potion.  I just don't
>want the poor guy to be left out! :)
>
>Richelle





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Fri Oct  4 15:24:00 2002
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (David)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:24:00 -0000
Subject: Najork (was Boy by Dahl)
In-Reply-To: <anfjud+pvk8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ankbqg+ot9a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "frankielee242" <speedygonzo242 at h...> 
wrote:

>> Frankie, who is related to the Tom who beat Captain Najork and his
> hired sportsmen.

His aunt?

David




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri Oct  4 11:39:48 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:39:48 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: reminder from Hallmark
Message-ID: <FFCE4142A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

The Quidditch ornament comes out tomorrow at the Hallmark 
stores.  I was just in there getting a card for my 
grandmother and asked when it was going to be available 
since all the display says is "October".  

You can also order them online at Hallmark.com.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri Oct  4 12:11:17 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:11:17 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Woo-hoo!  Sean Biggerstaff alert!
Message-ID: <1083365178@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

here's a picture from the wrap party of CoS.  It's of 
Rankin (Percy) and our beautiful Sean!  :-)

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/harrypotter2/multimedia/i
mages?item_id=2499767

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  4 21:31:02 2002
From: speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com (frankielee242)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:31:02 -0000
Subject: Najork (was Boy by Dahl)
In-Reply-To: <ankbqg+ot9a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <anl1am+gtsj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "David" <dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "frankielee242" <speedygonzo242 at h...> 
> wrote:
> 
> >> Frankie, who is related to the Tom who beat Captain Najork and his
> > hired sportsmen.
> 
> His aunt?
> 
> David


Aunt Bundlejoycosysweet, possibly. I do own the hat... The huge,
floopy one with ribbons and flowers, not the iron pot.

Actually, I was merely implying that I spend far too much time mucking
about instead of doing things that *need* doing, like learning from
the pages of the DocStream Printing & Job Mamagement Guide.

So glad to find another Tom V. Captian Najork fan!! =D


All in good fun,

Frankie




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct  4 22:17:51 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:17:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] reminder from Hallmark/ Sean Biggerstaff alert
References: <FFCE4142A@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <008901c26bf3$e1ee21e0$c4a2cdd1@istu757>


> The Quidditch ornament comes out tomorrow at the Hallmark
> stores.  I was just in there getting a card for my
> grandmother and asked when it was going to be available
> since all the display says is "October".
>
> You can also order them online at Hallmark.com.
>
> Rachel Bray

I got mine today, am I special? :)  They had one (yes, one) sitting on the
shelf, and I grabbed it.  It's really cute, and since it doesn't look the
least bit Christmasy (is that a word?) as soon as I can find a place to put
it I'll hang it someplace.  I love the wind up action.

> here's a picture from the wrap party of CoS.  It's of
> Rankin (Percy) and our beautiful Sean!  :-)

<whew> I needed that. :)

Richelle






From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  4 23:09:36 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:09:36 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F258JkdPbXNp8xsPHFo0000f511@hotmail.com>


Richelle wrote:

>Okay, this is a really odd topic, so I thought I'd post >here.  In recent 
>days there have been many comments >about Sirius Black, I lost count of 
>those who want to >marry him. :)  Then there are quite a few still 
> >swooning over Lockhart.  And the Snape lovers are >around too.  But what 
>about Lupin?  Am I the only one >who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, 
>of >course. :)  He seems just my type, so long as he takes >his wolfsbane 
>potion.  I just don't want the poor guy to be left out! :)

Then Teri Wrote:

>Well, considering I'm not the marrying type, out of the >Marauders, Lupin 
>is the only one I really like.  >Wouldn't want to marry him though...in 
>fact,
>even though I'm a die hard Snape fanatic, I wouldn't >want to marry him 
>either.  Now, having Snape around for >other things, I'm so very there.

I Just Have to Respond:

I had to laugh at your post, Teri! because you just described my thoughts on 
the matter perfectly, right down to the Snape bit :)>

I remember several years ago I heard on a radio talk show program (don't 
recall who was speaking and in what context, sorry) this person made an 
observation that women, in general, often judge men in terms of how good a 
partner he would make.

Now following in that vein, out of all the "of age" characters in 
Potterverse, Lupin does seem to be the best catch.  Sure he's poor as dirt, 
but he's intelligent.  Good with kids.  Creative (he came up with that 
obstacle course idea for the DADA final exam...I'd call that creative, 
wouldn't you?)  So he turns into a werewolf once a month...at least you know 
it's coming, and you can remind him to take the potion.  Anyway, I become 
really nasty once a month too :)>

As for Black, I really don't think I can say anything about Black...it has 
been mentioned elsewhere that we really haven't seen him under "normal" 
conditions.  He's also a man on the run from the law, and though that may 
change, he's also carrying a lot of baggage from his stint at Azkaban.  That 
glazed look that comes over his eyes when he thinks about "those days" kinda 
frightens me.

Then there's Snape...ahhh, Snape.  Sure, he's an evil S.O.B., but there's 
something about him (starts to hum her filk, _I Don't Know Why I Like Him_). 
  But I think his personality would get on my nerves after a while.  I would 
probably fall for a hot romance, ending in a bitter fight :)>

Lockhart, you mentioned, Richelle?  The looks are there, but do you really 
want to hear him bragging 24-7?  Been there, done that.

Whattaya think about Dumbledore?  Oh yeah, I know he's an old coot, but I 
bet he was something in his day...red hair, very intelligent, influential, 
powerful.  He's got a good sense of humor.  Responsible.  Deals very nicely 
with others.

-Gail B. who thinks she might have spoken too much.

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct  4 23:31:18 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:31:18 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
References: <F258JkdPbXNp8xsPHFo0000f511@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <012601c26bfe$24829cc0$c4a2cdd1@istu757>

Gail B. writes:

> I Just Have to Respond:

And so do I. :)

> Now following in that vein, out of all the "of age" characters in
> Potterverse, Lupin does seem to be the best catch.  Sure he's poor as
dirt,
> but he's intelligent.  Good with kids.  Creative (he came up with that
> obstacle course idea for the DADA final exam...I'd call that creative,
> wouldn't you?)  So he turns into a werewolf once a month...at least you
know
> it's coming, and you can remind him to take the potion.  Anyway, I become
> really nasty once a month too :)>

Very true, very true. So we can really relate. I'm intelligent (if you don't
believe me, just ask).  I'm good with kids.  (If you don't believe me ask
the fourteen munchkins I'm with all day every day!  Who also think I'm
intelligent, by the way.)  I'm creative (I did create a "mini literary
festival" at school just so I can dress up as Hermione Granger, that's a
pretty creative way to get what I want, I think.)  We'll both be nasty for a
week or so out of the month.  And we'll both know it's coming.  So, the next
time my mother brings up the topic of marriage (or lack thereof) I'll just
inform her that the only man I've ever "loved" doesn't really exist. :)
What kind of comeback can she possibly have for that one?

> As for Black, I really don't think I can say anything about Black...it has
> been mentioned elsewhere that we really haven't seen him under "normal"
> conditions.  He's also a man on the run from the law, and though that may
> change, he's also carrying a lot of baggage from his stint at Azkaban.
That
> glazed look that comes over his eyes when he thinks about "those days"
kinda
> frightens me.

Mmm, yes, I think you're right.  While he's deliciously, well, you get the
drift :) in a very rugged sort of way, I think he could have an awful lot of
nasty flashbacks.  Azkaban aside, he still has to live with the thought of
being responsible for his best friend's death in a round about way.

> Then there's Snape...ahhh, Snape.  Sure, he's an evil S.O.B., but there's
> something about him (starts to hum her filk, _I Don't Know Why I Like
Him_).
>   But I think his personality would get on my nerves after a while.  I
would
> probably fall for a hot romance, ending in a bitter fight :)>

Yes, he could get annoying.  He needs to lighten up a bit.  A lot.

> Lockhart, you mentioned, Richelle?  The looks are there, but do you really
> want to hear him bragging 24-7?  Been there, done that.

My best friend's married to one of those. :)  Although I don't even think
that one's got the looks she thinks he does, but that's OT even for OT
Chatter. :)  He could get very obnoxious the second he opens his mouth.

> Whattaya think about Dumbledore?  Oh yeah, I know he's an old coot, but I
> bet he was something in his day...red hair, very intelligent, influential,
> powerful.  He's got a good sense of humor.  Responsible.  Deals very
nicely
> with others.

Well, turn back the clock 120 years and I'll consider it. :)  I would like a
nice flashback to when Dumbledore was in his prime just to see what he could
*really* do.  I meant dueling or spells.  Oh, never mind.

Then there's always Bill or Charlie.  Anyone want to speak up for them?

> -Gail B. who thinks she might have spoken too much.

Nah, keep it up. :)  This is fun.

Richelle

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"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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****




From neardivinity at myfastmail.com  Sat Oct  5 11:20:25 2002
From: neardivinity at myfastmail.com (Emma)
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:20:25 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <01b001c269b6$a92f2a00$c69ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <anmhtp+grca@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is a really odd topic, so I thought I'd post here.  In recent
> days there have been many comments about Sirius Black, I lost count
of those
> who want to marry him. :)  Then there are quite a few still swooning
over
> Lockhart.  And the Snape lovers are around too.  But what about
Lupin?  Am I
> the only one who wants to marry Lupin? If he were real, of course.
:)  He
> seems just my type, so long as he takes his wolfsbane potion.  I
just don't
> want the poor guy to be left out! :)

Lupin has always quite appealed to me - but part of me wonders if that
is because I'm a kind of nurturing type, and he seems to need looking
after. I'm sure he hasn't been eating properly when he first come to
Hogwarts.

I'm big on the nurturing - and most of the other men we see in the
books are fairly strong people, who don't need it, so he's the only
one who really suits me - well, Arthur Weasley as well, but he's taken
and I don't think I'd want to get in a fight with Molly!

Actually, I tend to look the other way - at the kids. Obviously I'm
not after them in a romantic sense, but my maternal instincts really
take off when I read about Harry or Neville, or, I'm sad to say Draco.
They all seem to me to need mothering. I guess I'd have to focus on
Neville though, because if I tried to take Harry, I'd probably have
that fighting Molly problem again.

BTW, new here, names Emma, reading through the archives trying to
catch up and delighted to find fans who seem as obsessive as me.
Unfortunately I have found the group at the end of my holidays just
when I am going to get busy again.

Emma-the-hemi-demi-semi-goddess of children's literature (AKA a school
librarian).





From neardivinity at myfastmail.com  Sat Oct  5 11:35:09 2002
From: neardivinity at myfastmail.com (Emma)
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:35:09 -0000
Subject: Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <3D9C3BCD.14578.366559@localhost>
Message-ID: <anmipd+ar23@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> wrote:

> I made no comment on caning in general - I happen to know a fair bit
about it, as it 
> has come up sometimes in anti-bullying work I do (a fair amount of
the research is 
> British and some people feel the banning of corporal punishment has
an impact in 
> that area), and I was also caned myself at school only a little over
a decade ago 
> here in Australia. I know the cane was used in British schools and
used widely, and 
> if I wanted to take a few minutes to check some books, I could find
real examples of 
> what Dahl included in Boy. My specific comments related however to
what Roald 
> Dahl experienced at his school - and school friends of his have
said, that in *his* 
> specific case, and at that *specific* school, what he describes in
Boy is not a 
> realistic depiction of what actually happened.

I'm disillusioned to hear that Boy wasn't realistic. Or maybe I'm not.
Maybe the fact that I believed it just proves that Roald Dahl was a
very convincing author.

It's interesting though, as working in a school library, Boy and Harry
Potter are the only two books I've ever been under any real pressure
to ban. Harry Potter because some parents had been told they were evil
or satanic or something (fortunately they agreed to read them and
changed their mind) and Boy because it gave a boy nightmares (I'm not
surprised - his parents told him he was going to a boarding school the
following year and some friend of his told him to read it to find out
what boarding schools were like).
I'm interested though - you said some people think corporal punishment
being bad at an impact on bullying - was that supposed to be a good
impact, or a bad impact. Because I'm sort of ashamed to say that I was
a bully when I was at school, and I really wish they'd done something
more than they did to stop me (I went to a "free school" where we got
away with everything) but I don't think hitting me would have done any
good at all.

Emma





From nplyon at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  5 14:29:30 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:29:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <1033806030.493.23898.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021005142930.77996.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com>

> Gail B. writes:
> 
> > I Just Have to Respond:

And Richelle replied:
> 
> And so do I. :)

Oh, oh, oh, me!  <Raises hand in air and waves it in
manner of Hermione Granger in PS/SS film.>

Richelle said:
> Very true, very true. So we can really relate. I'm
> intelligent (if you don't believe me, just ask). 
I'm > good with kids.  (If you don't believe me ask
> the fourteen munchkins I'm with all day every day! 
> Who also think I'm intelligent, by the way.)  I'm >
creative (I did create a "mini literary festival" at >
school just so I can dress up as Hermione Granger, >
that's a pretty creative way to get what I want, I > >
think.)  We'll both be nasty for a week or so out of >
the month.  And we'll both know it's coming.  So, the
> next time my mother brings up the topic of marriage 
> (or lack thereof) I'll just inform her that the only

> man I've ever "loved" doesn't really exist. :)
> What kind of comeback can she possibly have for that
> one?

I like Lupin, always have.  I just think he's too
mild-mannered for me or something.  He is extremely
intelligent, which I find very appealing, and his
poverty doesn't matter to me.  However, I can't quite
see him as a romantic interest.  I could definitely
picture myself being good friends with him, though.  I
would definitely want him in my corner.

As for your mother, Richelle, I think she might be
forced to have you institutionalized if you tell her
such a thing.  :)

Richelle said:
> Mmm, yes, I think you're right.  While he's
> deliciously, well, you get the drift :) in a very 
> rugged sort of way, I think he could have an awful 
> lot of nasty flashbacks.  Azkaban aside, he still
has 
> to live with the thought of being responsible for
his 
> best friend's death in a round about way.

As you probably all know by now, I have already
declared that I wouldn't mind being Mrs. Sirius Black.
 Aside from the physical description of him in the
Lily and James wedding picture, he appeals to me like
he does because he is so intense and passionate.  What
can I say?  I'm half Italian and there's nothing I
like better than passion and drama.  I know he's got
some issues to work out but I'd make him an
appointment with a good therapist and help him work
through his problems.  :)  That Sirius Black just
really does something to me!

Richelle said:
> Yes, he could get annoying.  He needs to lighten up
> a bit.  A lot.

Count me out of the running for Snape.  Aside from his
annoying personality, I would have a huge problem with
the way he mentally abuses children.  I certainly
wouldn't feel comfortable having offspring with
someone like him.  And I just can't get past his
hygiene issues.  Maybe that's just because I'm
compulsively clean about my own self but there you
have it.

As for Lockhart, I can't deal with a man like that.  I
would enjoy him for sheer entertainment value but I
could never be with a man who enjoyed his own
reflection more than he enjoyed me.  He's far too
pompous for my tastes, not to mention that he's been
swindling the wizarding world for years. 

Richelle said:
> Well, turn back the clock 120 years and I'll
consider 
> it. :)  I would like a nice flashback to when 
> Dumbledore was in his prime just to see what he
could
> *really* do.  I meant dueling or spells.  Oh, never
> mind.

I'm with you here, he's a bit too old for me at this
point.  Sometimes I like older men but somehow I just
don't see Dumbledore as a sex symbol.  A wise
counselor and friend, yes but a potential romantic
interest, no.  If he were younger, maybe.  However, he
is a bit too cryptic for my taste.  Imagine how crazy
it would drive you if you were trying to talk about
something important with him and he gave you the kinds
of bits and pieces answers he gives Harry.

> 
> Then there's always Bill or Charlie.  Anyone want to
> speak up for them?

I think Bill and Charlie have definite potential,
although Charlie's high-risk job concerns me.  Bill
appeals to me because he seems sort of rugged and
almost rebellious.  Wow, guess I like those tough,
edgy guys more than I thought, huh?  :)

> 
> > -Gail B. who thinks she might have spoken too
> much.
> 
> Nah, keep it up. :)  This is fun.
> 
> Richelle

I heartily second that!  This *is* fun.

~Nicole, swooning Sirius fan.

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  5 15:09:36 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:09:36 -0000
Subject: For Richelle...just in case
Message-ID: <anmvbg+d1io@eGroups.com>

Hi, Richelle!

Well, now that you have inspired me to put together a HP costume, I 
have to say I found a Gryffindor tie.  You might have one, or not 
need one, but I thought I would let you know.  Land's End has kids' 
ties under the school uniform category.  They are on backorder until 
the 14th, though.  It doesn't matter, I got one anyway!!  :D  I was 
actually surfing around, looking for clothes for my boys when I 
found it.  Because Land's End is usually not cheap, I have hunted 
around, but I have yet to find a tie like this one.  I did see one 
on e-bay, but the darn thing was going for seventy dollars and there 
were 20 bidders!!  So, just in case you want/need one, there it is.  
It is around 16.75, and with shipping the whole thing was 20.50, I 
think.  Just thought I would let you know!  :D

Alora, who is really getting into the costume thing, and who is also 
drooling over the men of Harry Potter and enjoying all the posts on 
it.




From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Oct  5 19:46:24 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:46:24 -0000
Subject: the word "Hogwarts" / Remus Romance / Remus riches
Message-ID: <annfig+89dc@eGroups.com>

Belinda wrote:

<< I was watching the Labyrinth (you know, that kids movie from the 
80's (1986 to be precice) with David Bowie in it) the other day and I
couldn't help but notice that when one of the characters 'Hoggle'
often gets called the wrong name by other characters, he's called
'Hogwart' a number of times. interesting... >>

One of my friends told me that a Hogwarts School appears in the 
Molesworth stories by by Geoffrey Willans and the famous Ronald 
Searle. Unfortunately I can't check this out for myself, as the books 
are ancient collectibles, costing hundreds of dollars on amazon.com. 

JKR herself said in an interview: 
"I thought I made up Hogwarts, but recently a friend said, 'Remember 
we saw lilies in Kew gardens (a garden in London.)' Apparently there 
are lilies there called Hogwarts. I'd forgotten!" 
and another interview: 
"A friend from London recently asked me if I remembered when we first 
saw Hogwarts. I had no idea what she was talking about until she 
recalled the day we went to Kew Gardens and saw those lilies that 
were called Hogwarts. I'd seen them seven years before and they'd 
bubbled around in my memory. When Hogwarts occurred to me as a name 
for the school, I had no idea where it came from."

Thanks to the Goat Pad for the exact quotes:
http://www.geocities.com/aberforths_goat/
http://www.familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,22-9966-0-2,00.html
http://www.geocities.com/aberforths_goat/Sum1999_Renton_SydneyMorningH
erald.htm

Richelle wrote:

<< Am I the only one who wants to marry Lupin? >>

Of course not! There are legions of us, including Amy Z who uses the 
Yahoo!name lupinesque. I fancy *many* wizards, but dear Remus is the 
only one I want to marry. Here's a snip from my main list post 
#39106: 
"I fancy Remus most of all, and I don't believe it has anything to do 
with wanting to rescue him or mother him or because he is 
'vulnerable': I believe his problems serve only to show how 
(emotionally) strong he is; I fancy him because he is so extremely 
kind (oh, the thought of someone being *that* kind to me!), and 
competent, and emotionally strong."
and #39101: 
"I am only one of the myriad of HPfGU women who rush, whenever 
someone claims that there is a dichotomy between fancying Severus 
and fancying Sirius, that *I* fancy both.

But I don't fancy Sirius as Hurt-Comfort: the Sirius I fancy is the 
pre-Azkaban one, the handsome boy with laughing eyes, who takes crazy 
risks flying on his motorcycle and doesn't think of consequences ... 
and I only want to sleep with him (and *maybe* be friends): he is 
NOT husband material.

Fancying Severus is a real case of Hurt-Comfort, in fact a cliche of 
cheap romance novels: the tall, dark, powerful,intelligent, NASTY man 
who won't let people get emotionally close to him, but the Nastiness 
is the result of his own tremendous inner suffering, and the romance 
heroine (i.e. the reader ... or Draco in my fic!) manages to melt 
that ice, get close to him, heal his inner suffering with her love, 
and then he loves her, with romantic words, hot sex, and more respect 
for her thoughts and feelings that he has ever shown for anyone 
else's before."

Olivia wrote:

<< Rowling really stressed the fact that Lupin is poor. (Which makes 
me wonder about the dynamics of his relationship with the wealthy 
James and possibly-wealthy Sirius.) >>

I think that Lupin was much less poor in his school days, when he was 
financially dependent on his parents, so it didn't matter that no one 
would hire him for a job. Maybe since then his parents have died 
without leaving him a big inheritance, I like to think they have 
retired and live on a limited retirement savings, or maybe he is too 
proud to accept money from them at the age of 36. If the parents died 
without leaving a big inheritance or retired on limited assets, then 
they weren't rolling in money during his school days either (unless 
they blew it all ... plot bunny?), but I imagine he had decent dress 
robes, non-pre-owned textbooks, and enough spending money that he 
could have a butterbeer on Hogsmeade weekends without having to 
depend on the charity of his friends.




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Oct  5 23:00:00 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:00:00 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: the word "Hogwarts" / Remus Romance / Remus riches
In-Reply-To: <annfig+89dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D9FFB90.7480.1E8624@localhost>

On 5 Oct 2002 at 19:46, Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) wrote:

> One of my friends told me that a Hogwarts School appears in the 
> Molesworth stories by by Geoffrey Willans and the famous Ronald 
> Searle. Unfortunately I can't check this out for myself, as the books 
> are ancient collectibles, costing hundreds of dollars on amazon.com. 

I do have a copy somewhere, but can't lay my hands on it right this second - the 
reference is in 'How to be Topp', published in (I think) 1954 - it doesn't refer to the 
name of a school, but is rather supposed to be the name of a Latin play.





Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Oct  5 23:11:14 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:11:14 +1000
Subject: Boadicea the Witch
In-Reply-To: <annfig+89dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D9FFE32.21122.28D284@localhost>

I'm probably not the first to note this, but it's new to me.

Been doing some reading recently, and came upon an interesting tidbit. Apparently 
there is a legend that the ancient British queen, Boadicea, who fought the Roman 
occupiers is buried under King's Cross station - specifically under Platform 10. But 
there is no real evidence for this.

Naturally, it got me thinking. What if Boadicea is actually buried under Platform 9 
3/4s - certainly Muggle historians could easily change that to Platform 10, and of 
course, they'd find no evidence to support it? Boadicea the Witch?


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Oct  5 23:54:19 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:54:19 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Boy by Dahl
In-Reply-To: <anmipd+ar23@eGroups.com>
References: <3D9C3BCD.14578.366559@localhost>
Message-ID: <3DA0084B.20330.504257@localhost>

On 5 Oct 2002 at 11:35, Emma wrote:

> I'm interested though - you said some people think corporal punishment
> being bad at an impact on bullying - was that supposed to be a good
> impact, or a bad impact. Because I'm sort of ashamed to say that I was
> a bully when I was at school, and I really wish they'd done something
> more than they did to stop me (I went to a "free school" where we got
> away with everything) but I don't think hitting me would have done any
> good at all.

Some people think the impact of abolition, with regards to bullying, was positive, 
others think it was negative - we're talking about a wide range of people with a wide 
range of views here - it's hard to find a consensus on anything. But virtually all 
would agree that you could very well be right that being hit wouldn't have done 
*you* any good.

The thing is, with bullies, you're dealing with a wide range of different types of 
people, with a wide range of 'reasons' for why they are bullies. That's why, in the 
work I do, we try to steer clear of single solutions - there needs to be a range of 
methods of dealing with bullies and bullying, and even methods that work really well 
for some people might be totally inappropriate for others.

I mean, some bullies get that way as a reaction to being physically abused - their 
anger at the abuse provokes them to acts of violence and intimidation against 
others. Hitting a kid who is bullying for that type of reason really seems like a bad 
idea - so even people who think corporal punishment might be a good option for 
some billies, are generally aware that the operative word is *some*, not *all*.

Personal view, I'm afraid I have to say I think corporal punishment for some bullies 
is a good thing. That's primarily based on my own experiences. I spent Year 7 at the 
school from hell, as far as I'm concerned. I was the constant target of bullying - at 
times, by groups of over 200 kids all focused on me. That school really sucked 
when it came to dealing with the problem - they were very 'trendy', they didn't 
believe in disciplining kids, so bullies were never punished, at most, somebody 
'talked to them about their behaviour.' Sickeningly, for me, however, they regarded 
being the victim of bullying as evidence I wasn't trying hard enough to fit in - so for 
being bullied (to the extent that I was eventually found unconscious on the toilet 
floors after a beating), I wound up being punished, while the bullies got away with 
whatever they wanted. I was 12. By midway through the year, I was suicidal, and it 
kept getting worse - and I would have killed myself if I'd had to go back to that 
school the following year.

Fortunately, the one positive thing that school did for me (of course, it wasn't 
intended to be positive - they had labelled me as 'retarded' - even though I was 
getting the highest marks in my year, and they were trying to get that label 
confirmed so they could palm me off to a special school) was insist my parents take 
me to see a psychologist. He identified the real reasons, I was 'different' and made 
a whole bunch of recommendations, which meant that the following year, I started 
at a new, very traditional, very snobby, private school. I loved it. As an aside, I think 
it's one reason why HP appealed to me, the parallels, I see. Kid who has faced 
abuse (fortunately, in my case, not from family), suddenly finds out he is 'different' 
and 'special' and escapes the dismal education he faced (yes, I did have my head 
flushed down toilets more than once - it actually wasn't that bad if you remained 
calm - not that I ever managed to for more than three flushes), and finds himself in 
a school which seems so wonderful - wow, I felt that. I loved it. That year, when I 
was 13, was probably the only year of my childhood that I was ever *truly* happy (I 
had to move on to the senior school at the end of that year - which was merely 
good, as opposed to brilliant). Back to my point. The thing is, at this new school, 
there was bullying - but when bullies were caught, they *were* punished. And if what 
they did, was at all major, they could be whacked. And the system worked. The 
system made me feel safe. In a very real sense, it may have saved my life. So, end 
result - I just about have to say I think corporal punishment is a good thing when 
dealing with some bullies - because the only way I could deny that, would be to 
deny my own experiences.

I don't think it's the only way - and one of the reasons, I think that school was 
brilliant was because it wasn't the only thing they used. They made real efforts to 
identify individual problems, whatever they were, and deal with them as individuals. 
Corporal punishment was one option - one among many. For some kids, it worked - 
it stopped them.

There needs to be a range of methods. You can't say any one thing is 'good' or 'bad' 
IMHO - you need to look at all the variables, and ideally, consider the person being 
dealt with as an individual.

And, BTW, I was also on the receiving end of both the strap and the cane - it's not 
like I'm seeing this entirely from one side. The behaviours they were addressing 
with me, wasn't being a bully - but for me, they worked.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  6 01:52:43 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 01:52:43 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men in Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F142Dt3HvoFOAmEaJsw0000fe44@hotmail.com>

Richelle Wrote:

>Then there's always Bill or Charlie.  Anyone want to speak up for them?

I Reply:

Oooo...I forgot about them!  Bill's the one with the dragons, right?  Darn, 
I don't have the books in front of me.  It's a dangerous kind of job, 
working with dragons...might find him coming home from work with some 
serious injuries (burns & etc.)  I picture him as being a kinda outdoorsy 
kind of guy, don't you?  Camping.  Hiking.  Trail mix.

Charlie, he has a pretty steady job, working for Gingotts and all, but 
again, a very dangerous profession...I mean, "Curse Breaker" sounds kinda 
like "Bomb Squad" to me.  What awful things could happen down in one of 
those Pharaoh tombs if he doesn't do the just the right thing.  Nerves of 
steel, that's what it takes.  He's got the long hair too, and the earring, 
right?  Even Harry describes him as "cool".  Maybe he plays bass guitar in a 
band on the weekends.  Serious rock-n-roll.  Musicians are cool.

Am I forgetting anybody else?

-Gail B.

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From olivia at serpensortia.com  Sun Oct  6 02:02:10 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:02:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men in Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <F142Dt3HvoFOAmEaJsw0000fe44@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHEECPCCAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Gail said:
"Oooo...I forgot about them!  Bill's the one with the dragons, right? ...
Charlie, he has a pretty steady job, working for Gingotts and all, but
again, a very dangerous profession..."

Actually you have them mixed up. Bill is the former Head Boy who works at
Gringotts and Charlie is the former Quidditch star who studies dragons in
Romania. :)

Olivia




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct  6 02:57:40 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:57:40 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] For Richelle...just in case/ Men of Harry Potter
References: <anmvbg+d1io@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <010f01c26ce4$2303f380$129ccdd1@istu757>

Alora writes:

> Well, now that you have inspired me to put together a HP costume, I
> have to say I found a Gryffindor tie.  You might have one, or not
> need one, but I thought I would let you know.  Land's End has kids'
> ties under the school uniform category.  They are on backorder until
> the 14th, though.  It doesn't matter, I got one anyway!!  :D  I was

Man, if I knew they'd get it in on time I'd buy one.  However, with my luck
on backordered items they wouldn't!  I found one at the mall today--didn't
buy it.  It was Ralph Lauren and $40!  I bought some red and gold ribbon
that can be made into a makeshift tie that may just have to do!

Gail writes:

> Am I forgetting anybody else?

Well, back to the topic of men we go. :)  Charlie's definitely not my
type--too outdoorsie.  (What a word, outdoorsie!)  :)  Bill, well, I'm not
into pony tails. On men at least.  Lupin's still my #1 man. :)  I still feel
like someone's being forgotten . . . but I can't put my finger on it.  Well,
there's Peter Pettigrew, but I think I'd rather marry Professor Flitwick
than that rat!

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From editor at texas.net  Sun Oct  6 05:35:32 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:35:32 -0500
Subject: You are not a winner
Message-ID: <001b01c26cfa$31124560$f67663d1@texas.net>

My antique monitor looked decidely peaked this morning. You know how
computers always look when they're in the background on TV shots? The
horizontal light bars rolling repeatedly up or down the screen? I think it's
the "refresh" of the screen, which our eyes cannot catch but the cameras
can. Anyway, my monitor was really, visibly, doing it. Gray horizontal bars.
And it was dim, and very out of focus, and the bright and contrast were as
fooled with as they could be. You could almost hear it wheezing.

So. Perhaps it has not been, as I have callously been suggesting, my
husband's eyes, when he's been complaining about being able to see his game.
Perhaps it is the fact that this monitor is, oh, about eleven years old. I
bought it when color monitors were new and wonderful, with my first
computer, purchased for use upon my return to college to finish my degree
soon after we were married. Subsequent upgrades have not included new
monitors because I am cheap and I already had a perfectly good one.

Oh, but this was a frightening prospect, having no monitor. I do have an old
one of my dad's out in the garage, but it's a black and white one, even
older than this one, and it runs on hamsters and I'm fresh out. So I made a
Major Decision. A couple of bills will be late and we will *not* do anything
wonderful on our anniversary tomorrow (which was not to be too wonderful
anyway, probably a dinner out with all three kids since we have no sitter),
and I'll pay the preschool tuition late, and I bought a new monitor.

Imagine my surprise! They're all 17 inches now; the size that was the top of
the line and cutting-edge when I was last out buying computers, is now the
bare minimum. Everything's so much *bigger* than it was. It almost didn't
fit into on the slot in my computer hutch. I bought the cheapest there was,
and got a new mouse, and the novelty of being able to see better and more
clearly coupled with being able to move my cursor without having to shake
and hit the mouse is just overwhelming me.

So, this is basically to let all of you know that you damn near won the list
lottery--I almost was out of your online lives, with the demise of the
monitor--but being the prodigal soul that I am, you're *stuck* with me!
(laughs demonically).

--Amanda, who was accompanied on this monitor-buying trip by her son Tomek,
who was wired from having just been to select his Halloween costume (Tinky
Winky) and to the mall to buy his little brother's (Buzz Lightyear) and was
loud and fast and into every button he could find in the computer store, and
thus she really just went in and grabbed the first cheap monitor that
wandered by and got the hell out of there





From john at queerasjohn.com  Sun Oct  6 13:07:48 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 14:07:48 +0100
Subject: FF: Why I write Fanfiction
In-Reply-To: <1033751412.20609@mailserver120.sectorlink.com>
Message-ID: <B9C5F434.2E71%john@queerasjohn.com>

Hi all,

I thought you all might be interested in reading my Fanfiction Writing
Manifesto, since we have in the past discussed motivations and reasonings
for writing fanfic.

It can also be found on my site and LiveJournal @ www.queerasjohn.com.

Direct link is here --
http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=johnwalton&itemid=89337

A plain-text version starts under my sig line.

Enjoy, and comment if you'd like,

--John
______________________________________

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          www.queerasjohn.com

AIM & YM @ QueerAsJohn

"There's nowt as queer as folk."
    --English proverb
______________________________________


Why do I write fanfic?

A friend of mine asked me why I write fanfic last year. I thought about it
for a while, and realised that there are many different reasons. Let me
explain...

"If you wake up in the morning, and all you think about is writing, then
you?re meant to be a writer."

Recognise the quote? It?s from Sister Mary Clarence (played by Whoopi
Goldberg), in Sister Act II. Okay, so I was eleven (possibly twelve) when I
saw it first. But I took that quote to heart. Also the ?If you want to be
somebody, if you want to go somewhere, you?d better wake up and pay
attention? song/warmup, which is great.

Anyway. So, when I wake up in the morning, all I think about is writing.
Writing fic. Writing slash. Writing het. Writing my original novel. Not
writing my essays. Or my dissertation. Yet.

But why fanfiction, you ask. Why, Queer as John, do you write about these
children?s book characters? Well, I adore the books. I just love them. They
resonate in so many ways with me, and I identify with the characters so much
and on so many levels. That?s why I participated in HPFGU for so long. But
then...I found I was sated, replete of academic canon discussion. I didn?t
want to participate to the extent I had been. So...I started reading fanfic.
The first thing I read was Lori?s Paradigm of Uncertainty. Damn, was it
good! So good, in fact, that I wrote a fairly abominable piece of fic of my
own. Which I ditched, because it was awful. But I do remember some great
advice from CLS at the time, which I really appreciated. I caught the bug
from that first piece of awfulness at FFN. You can probably find it under
Crazy Ivan if you look hard enough. *wince*

But why HP, you ask? Why these kids? And why slash them? Well, HP because I
love it. I identify with the kid who, at eleven, is transported away from
home to boarding school in Britain. (That?s me!) I identify with the spoddy
best friend who always has too many books in her bag, and who always reads.
(That?s me!) I even identify with the daft best friend. (I tried to be him!)
Part of my love, I think, is that identification. The other part is fantasy.
I love the entire HP world so much that I want to immerse myself in it, to
really know it from the inside out. So I write stories about characters from
it. Characters I identify with.

I also think that I write slash because this fandom is so open to it, like
I?ve never seen before in any other fandom. (Possibly Smallville, but I
don?t have too much experience of that.) The number of (primarily) women and
(all ten of us) men who read, write and love gay themed writing is just so
open and new that I really feel creative and excited about the writing
process.

Anyway, back in time, but a while later, I read Cassie?s DD, and possibly DS
too. And I was really hooked. I emailed Cassie in typical fanboy way, asking
if I could use her Draco in a spinoff. And so the Song of Time was born. I
was writing it while I was coming to terms with my own sexual identity, in
my second year of university, which contributed to the way I looked at the
characters, their depth, their personalities. What made them tick? Why was
Hermione with Harry and not Ron? Who knows. But, over time, my
interpretation changed. I came to see Draco as very much a ?me? character.
Not a Mary Sue, but an ?inspired by?. (Okay, Rita, slightly Mary Sueish. But
I?m changing that in rewrites.) Draco in SoT is the Ideal Me. He?s witty.
He?s intelligent. He?s not quite sure where he fits in with everything. And
he?s gay, and although he knows it, he?s not ready to tell everyone yet.
Sound familiar?

Anyway, SoT got stalled in September, 2001. I was writing a chapter about an
Ivory Minaret that is knocked down by aerial attack, in a chapter that was
released in August. Yeah. It threw me for a loop, and my muse wandered off.
I don?t remember much of September, or October. November? Hell yeah. HP
Movie. But I?m ahead of myself.

Anyway, I kept writing SoT, kept Modding HPFGU, helped FA start up, until I
saw the film. Fuck, Sean Biggerstaff is gorgeous. Surely, though, he?s
straight! Yeah, that?s what people said about me when I was his age. Even my
best friend didn?t guess until I came out to her in September 2001, although
she now looks back on the Cher music with the 20/20 of hindsight. Mind you,
I also hid it quite well. So, I ended up in the position where I was coming
out myself, and I had this person who I wished fervently were gay, and who
was in this world I identified with, and so why not write about it? Why not
transfer my experiences, my fears, my dreams, to the Oliver character? Or
the Percy character, who he ends up in love with?

As I developed my own identity, as I formed it and tried to fit it into the
Me that already existed, I wrote about my feelings. But I didn?t write them
in a journal. I wrote them in prose. With other characters. And not just
one. Both Percy and Oliver have experiences which happened to me. I won?t
tell you which ones, although my own coming out experience was neither
Percy?s nor Oliver?s. (Somewhere in the middle, actually.) But this is the
perspective from which I come to the HP series now. The perspective of a gay
man, who led a life very similar to Percy?s at school.

See, I was a Prefect (a School Prefect, indeed). If I?d had brothers, they
would have thought I at eighteen was uptight and a teacher?s pet. But I
wasn?t, I was just really mature for my age -- having a Deep Dark Secret
does that, y?know -- and insecure. The insecurity manifested itself in the
rule-following and the authority-seeking as some form of validation, I
think. Now, to explain that in an academic post about identifying with is
terribly dull, not to mention totally subjective. Plus, I don?t care much
for canon Percy. He is quite irritating. But the possible Percy? And to
explain it over several chapters of actions and dialogue, not just
description? That sounded like something I wanted -- and perhaps as a person
I needed -- to do.

So, of course, here came this Oliver/Percy fic wanting to be written. And,
in December 2001, that?s just what I did. Ebony was running the Twelve Days
of Paradise on HP_Paradise, so I offered to do a daily excerpt of the
Oliver/Percy fic which was floating around my head at that point.
Unfortunately, I caught gastroentiritis in December, which sort of scuppered
the daily excerpt plan, but I released it in conjunction with the Twelve
Days. 

I was writing a story about eighteen-year-olds who fall in love with someone
they?ve been in love with for several years. An unrequited/requited love
story, that?s what Keeper?s Secrets is. And, in a way, it?s something else I
identify with. Or, at least, something I?d like to identify with. I?ve never
had requited love yet. But I?m looking forward to it when I do, and I?ll be
well prepared.

So. That?s why. If you?re a real life friend, now you know what I do when
I?m not working on my degree. It means a lot to me that you read this far.

If you?re an internet friend, thanks for reading. I hope that this gives you
an insight into what makes me tick. Feel free to leave comments...

--Queer as John, October 2002




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  6 17:30:42 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 10:30:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: In which Jessica feels kind of bad for picking on Ginny Weasley
In-Reply-To: <20021006131501.12721.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021006173042.22117.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>


Jessica, I also posted this to the OT Chatter group because I thought you had some very interesting things to say.  
Jessica wrote: 
Believe it or not, I wanted to thank you for
presenting such a thorough, intelligent rebuttal to my
comments on Ginny Weasley. I always enjoy a
well-thought out argument. Though I doubt will ever
see completely eye-to-eye on this matter (And why
should we? Variety is the spice of life, right?), you
brought up some very compelling points.


Me:

<splutters a bit...regains composure again...>  Thanks!  I did work hard on that one.  

Jessica:
In fact, as I type, I'm enjoying a hearty breakfast of
crow for not consulting the canon before I ran off at
the mouth.


Me:

<giggles> Well all do that, so don't worry about it.

 

You:
And so you don't think I'm a completely heartless,
evil wench, let me share with you a thought that only
occured to me yesterday:

I suspect the reason I get so frustrated with Ginny is
because she reminds me of myself at her age. When I
look back, I always wish I'd been more assertive, more
self-assured, more outspoken. See, what I admire about
Hermione is her ability, at eleven years old, to walk
into a very foreign place and not be afraid to be
exactly who she is. Granted, she goes bit overboard
with it because of insecurity, but she knows who she
is and she doesn't compromise herself because others
might disagree. 


Me:  

I agree with you totally here!  I was more like Ginny 11-15, but overcompensated by becoming VERY Hermione-like 16-26.  In fact, when I married at 24, I was so strong early on in our marriage that we didn't have a very good newlywed experience.  However, I've learned I can be strong yet feminine, and that my husband and I are partners, but I let him be a man and I don't demasculate (is that a word?) him by being a mothering feminist telling him what to do all the time.  So I know EXACTLY what you mean here.  The older I get (Heavens, I make it sound like I'm 70...I'm actually 31) the more balanced I feel.  

You:
I'm far more like that now, but I had to go through
utter hell to get to this point. Had I gotten there
earlier, I've always thought, I would have saved
myself tons of grief and humiliation over the years.
But Hermione's a strange duck and, realistically, few
thirteen year olds possess that kind of tenacity. So I
suppose when I'm exasperated with Ginny, I'm mostly
projecting exasperation with my own 13 year old self
on to her.

Me:

<pats Jessica's shoulder soothingly>  There, there.  I understand.  I've been through some counselling, so I've had the chance to deal with my "inner child" and "inner teen" and forgive myself for my embarrassing and exasperating behavior from those years.  Maybe that's why I feel the need to defend Ginny.  I know she's going to be okay; I just know it's going to take some time.   


You:
Okay! Now that I've played Junior Psychologist, I will
respectfully bid you farewell and add thanks for
making me think.

-Jessica, who appreciates a good debate 

Me:

I can't wait to read further posts from you, Jessica.  You have a very fluent writing style, and I know there will be a subject on which we agree.  

~Lilac, who debates when she needs to to protect her "inner teen"


=====
"Oh, I'll settle down with some old story/About a boy who's just like me/Thought there was love in everything and everyone/You're so naive!/After a while they always get it/They always reach a sorry end/Still it was worth it as I turned the pages solemnly, and then/With a winning smile, the boy/With naivety succeeds/At the final moment, I cried/I always cry at endings"
- "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying," Belle and Sebastian

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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  6 17:45:51 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 17:45:51 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men in Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F35eGtHF1A7sZ0FJJNk000105f3@hotmail.com>

Catlady wrote:

>Fancying Severus is a real case of Hurt-Comfort, in >fact a clich of cheap 
>romance novels: the tall, dark, >powerful,intelligent, NASTY man who won't 
>let people >get emotionally close to him, but the Nastiness
>is the result of his own tremendous inner suffering, >and the romance 
>heroine (i.e. the reader ... or Draco >in my fic!) manages to melt that 
>ice, get close to him, >heal his inner suffering with her love,
>and then he loves her, with romantic words, hot sex, >and more respect for 
>her thoughts and feelings that he >has ever shown for anyone else's before.

I Reply:

Ooooo...I'm all up for that!  Let me at him! :)>


Olivia Then Corrected Me:

>Actually you have them mixed up. Bill is the former >Head Boy who works at 
>Gringotts and Charlie is the >former Quidditch star who studies dragons in
>Romania. :)

I Reply:

Thanx...I told you that I didn't have my books in front of me for reference. 
  I still love the image of Bill playing in a band, though!


Richelle Said:

>I still feel like someone's being forgotten . . . but I >can't put my 
>finger on it.  Well, there's Peter >Pettigrew, but I think I'd rather marry 
>Professor >Flitwick than that rat!

Well, before you dis Flitwick, just remember the rumors that was floating 
around about Toulouse-Lautrec :)>
And didn't Lockhart say that Flitwick knew an incredible amount of love 
charms? or something like that (ye gods, I'm going to have to start carrying 
around my HP books wherever I go now).  Flitwick just could be "da thing"!

-Gail B....You're right, Richelle!  This *IS* fun!


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From olivia at serpensortia.com  Sun Oct  6 22:31:11 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:31:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men in Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <F35eGtHF1A7sZ0FJJNk000105f3@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHGEDJCCAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Gail B. said:
"Thanx...I told you that I didn't have my books in front of me for
reference.
  I still love the image of Bill playing in a band, though!"

I only spotted it right away because I used to mix them up too. :)

Giggle. Bill Weasley and the Goblins? Bill Weasley and the Gringotts
Goblins? Bill the lead singer with Griphook on bass? Awesome.

Olivia. :)




From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  7 03:27:53 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 03:27:53 -0000
Subject: You are not a winner
In-Reply-To: <001b01c26cfa$31124560$f67663d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <anquvp+6hvi@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> My antique monitor looked decidely peaked this morning. 
 
> Oh, but this was a frightening prospect, having no monitor. I do 
have an old
> one of my dad's out in the garage, but it's a black and white one, 
even
> older than this one, and it runs on hamsters and I'm fresh out.

Amanda,

I have a six year old Mac I could let you have for real cheap if your 
interested! . . . (er, let me clarify, I mean Macintosh, not a kid, 
although I have a five year old kid that's been driving me crazy 
lateley if your interested in him as well!)

 So I made a
> Major Decision. A couple of bills will be late and we will *not* do 
anything
> wonderful on our anniversary tomorrow (which was not to be too 
wonderful
> anyway, probably a dinner out with all three kids since we have no 
sitter),
> and I'll pay the preschool tuition late, and I bought a new monitor.



Anyway, Congratulations on the new purchase!
A freind of mine just purchased one of the new Dell, "flat screen" 
(if you know what I mean), black computers.  Looks really futuristic.
That's on *The List* (you know, that imaginary list that you make of 
material possesions that we all try to obtain, "Someday"!!)
Happy viewing!!

Anna . . ., who keeps thinking that that old mac is actually worth 
something! 



> --Amanda, who was accompanied on this monitor-buying trip by her 
son Tomek,
> who was wired from having just been to select his Halloween costume 
(Tinky
> Winky) and to the mall to buy his little brother's (Buzz Lightyear) 
and was
> loud and fast and into every button he could find in the computer 
store, and
> thus she really just went in and grabbed the first cheap monitor 
that
> wandered by and got the hell out of there




From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  7 03:44:00 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 03:44:00 -0000
Subject: look-a-likes
Message-ID: <anqvu0+eb8g@eGroups.com>

Well, I know I've read something about this before, probably quite a 
few months ago, but I figured for lack of something better to write 
about, I'd bring it up again.

I was driving home tonight listening to my "retro-pop-reunion" radio 
station (uh, that's 80's and early 90's music for you young folk), 
when who but one the the bad boys of rock came on: Billy Idol.
My first thought: Draco Malfoy!  (especially 'cause he was 
singing "Rebel Yell").  And I thought, hmm, I wonder if Billy Idol 
would make a good adult Draco; interesting!

I've also been watching "Smallville" lately and am convinced that Tom 
Welling is THE grown-up Harry Potter (my goodness, I sound like I'm 
16!!, or maybe I'm approaching a mid-life crisis??) 

 What really made me almost choke was the fact that Mr. 'Rock the 
cradle of love' is a "Soccer Dad now living in California", according 
to the DJ from the station.   Well, I guess, that's ok.  I mean, I 
think I could picture Draco as a "Quidditch Dad"!!:-}

Anyhow, any thoughts??
Fell free to add your favorites!!

Anna . . . , who is really dating herself here . . .






From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  7 14:30:31 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:30:31 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men in Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F116a3RaMVW1oOoEQHu00010e30@hotmail.com>

Olivia Wrote:

>Giggle. Bill Weasley and the Goblins? Bill Weasley and the Gringotts
>Goblins? Bill the lead singer with Griphook on bass? Awesome.

I was thinking of Billy and the Curse Breakers :)>

-Gail B.

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From JDagg31165 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  7 16:03:51 2002
From: JDagg31165 at hotmail.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 16:03:51 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <ansb97+5ego@eGroups.com>

Hey!

I'm new to the list but anyone who's on the main message board will 
probably recognize my name.

I was going to keep my mouth shut on this matter because I hated to 
repeat what's always been said, but I've given into temptation and 
must weigh in on my favorite HP man.

No surprise, it's Lupin. In my estimation, he really is the perfect 
man. They certainly don't make 'em like this in real life -- and if 
they have, PLEASE let me find one. 

Gail B. wrote:
<<<Now following in that vein, out of all the "of age" characters in 
Potterverse, Lupin does seem to be the best catch. Sure he's poor as 
dirt, but he's intelligent. Good with kids. Creative (he came up with 
that obstacle course idea for the DADA final exam...I'd call that 
creative, wouldn't you?) So he turns into a werewolf once a 
month...at least you know it's coming, and you can remind him to take 
the potion.>>>

Me, me, me!!!:
I agree 100% with everything Gail says. His intelligence is an 
especial attraction. I've always had this thing for nerds (i.e. 
really brainy guys) so Lupin's irresistible in my book. It doesn't 
hurt that he's such a kind, caring, decent guy.

But that leads me to my other favorite aspect of Lupin -- he's the 
best of both worlds. He's got the whole civilized man/animal thing (I 
mean that figuratively, not literally). I mean, the "wolf" in him 
must peek out at times when he isn't transformed **wink, wink, nudge, 
nudge**. One wonders if he wouldn't prove a nice combination of 
sensitivity and aggression.

*sigh*

More Lupin please, JKR!

-Jessica






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  8 02:02:08 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:02:08 -0500
Subject: My wand is here!
Message-ID: <018601c26e6e$b5d9c140$82a2cdd1@istu757>

You will be delighted (why, who wouldn't be?) to know that my wand has arrived, from The Wand Shop.  I was thrilled with it, can't stop waving it around saying things like "Alohamora" and such.  It just feels as though you should say something Latinesque when it's in your hand!  I also got a quill, ink, and parchment.  I was quite pleased to find I had a red quill, there was no choosing the color, I was afraid I'd end up with something hidious.  

Ah, well, off to play--I mean practice--with my wand. :)

Richelle

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 02:16:55 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:16:55 -0000
Subject: My wand is here!
In-Reply-To: <018601c26e6e$b5d9c140$82a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <antf6n+6ot4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> You will be delighted (why, who wouldn't be?) to know that my wand 
has arrived, from The Wand Shop.  I was thrilled with it, can't stop 
waving it around saying things like "Alohamora" and such.  It just 
feels as though you should say something Latinesque when it's in 
your hand!  I also got a quill, ink, and parchment.  I was quite 
pleased to find I had a red quill, there was no choosing the color, 
I was afraid I'd end up with something hidious.  
> 
> Ah, well, off to play--I mean practice--with my wand. :)
> 
> Richelle

Yea!!  I'm so jealous  *LOL*  I was playing with my son's wand just 
this evening, thinking I need to go ahead and order my own.  I just 
can't make up my mind!  :D  Hehe.  Oh, BTW Richelle, I was going to 
ask you if you had read a book called "Teaching Harry Potter."  It's 
for teachers.  I saw it while I was canoodling around on e-bay just 
a bit ago.  I was thinking it would be interesting to read, but 
wondered if anyone else had read it and could give me some 
feedback.  It had chapters on "characters and themes"  "teaching 
Harry"  etc.  What do you think?

On another note, I can't find a robe for Halloween!! *whine and 
pout*  Any suggestions? :D  This is so fun! wheeeeeee

Alora





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  8 02:53:59 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:53:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: My wand is here!
References: <antf6n+6ot4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c26e75$f537d0a0$90a1cdd1@istu757>

Alora writes:

> Yea!!  I'm so jealous  *LOL*  I was playing with my son's wand just
> this evening, thinking I need to go ahead and order my own.  I just
> can't make up my mind!  :D  Hehe.

Care to try and let it sort you? :)  I'm really glad you told me about the
glow in the dark paint on the end, I'd have really wondered what that was!

> Oh, BTW Richelle, I was going to
> ask you if you had read a book called "Teaching Harry Potter."  It's
> for teachers.  I saw it while I was canoodling around on e-bay just
> a bit ago.  I was thinking it would be interesting to read, but
> wondered if anyone else had read it and could give me some
> feedback.  It had chapters on "characters and themes"  "teaching
> Harry"  etc.  What do you think?

I've never seen it, but that does sound interesting!  Anyone else have it?
Oh, why didn't I think of writing that?!

> On another note, I can't find a robe for Halloween!! *whine and
> pout*  Any suggestions? :D  This is so fun! wheeeeeee

Mmm, let's see.  A choir robe?  They look very wizardly (my church choir
robes have GREEN trim, can you believe?!), especially if you could find one
in plain black.  Try local Christian supply stores.  Or there's baptismal
robes, they would probably be less expensive and easier to find, as choir
robes are usually made to order.  They're kind of pricey, but this site has
all sorts of robes. http://www.robeshop.com/  I doubt you want to pay $185,
but the judical robes look great!  They do have a plain black choir robe,
but it's still $65 (and that's a sale price, imagine!)

Good luck!

Richelle





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 03:02:36 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 03:02:36 -0000
Subject: My wand is here!
In-Reply-To: <001d01c26e75$f537d0a0$90a1cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <anthsc+dc9d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:

> Mmm, let's see.  A choir robe?  They look very wizardly (my church 
choir
> robes have GREEN trim, can you believe?!),

Green?!  Eeeww, Slytherin!  *LOL*  You know, almost every sorting 
quiz I take (yes, I do take those personality quiz sorting thingies) 
puts me in Hufflepuff.  I think, deep down, I knew that already.  
Hehe.  
   
>Try local Christian supply stores.  Or there's baptismal
> robes, they would probably be less expensive and easier to find, 
as choir
> robes are usually made to order. 


Silly me, I didn't think of my local christian supply!  But then, 
they would probably keel over at what I wanted a robe for! :D  I've 
already gotten into heated debates with my friends.  :O

 > Good luck!

Thanks, Richelle!  I also found a website called the Springer 
Uniform Company that makes academic robes, judicial robes etc.  I'm 
going to check out that place, too, when I get a chance.  BTW, did 
you check out the robes at the wandshop?  What did you think?  I'm 
thinking my son might like one for Christmas....

Cheers for now!

Alora  :)





From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 04:02:23 2002
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 04:02:23 -0000
Subject: Men in Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <F116a3RaMVW1oOoEQHu00010e30@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <antlcf+nf0r@eGroups.com>

I've been reading the posts in this thread, and an idea has been 
taking shape in my fevered brain.  I'm picturing a multi-page, full-
color spread in Playgirl or Cosmo or some similar magazine:

"The Men of Harry Potter"

--and there they'd be, wearing come-hither expressions and little 
else, each man posing in a scene which expresses his own personality 
and lifestyle.  Ohhhh, the possibilities!!!

--snazzzybird, who used to read the articles in her ex-husband's 
Playboy magazines (well, somebody had to).





From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 05:25:13 2002
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden faile)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Double Fudge and Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <anthsc+dc9d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021008052513.58957.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com>


I just happen to have picked up a copy of Double Fudge by Judy Blume to read to my kids(we've already been through all of the other fudge books). Fudge is a 5 year old and the story is told by his older brother Peter. It's terribly cute, but the original stories take place in the late 70's early 80's. Imagine my amazement when I got to a part in the book when Fudge was trying to get his brother to guess his best friends name. He says: "He's you know who's cousin."
Pete says: "We've been through this before, Harry Potter isn't real, he's a..."
  But before I could finish Fudge spit on the back of his hands three times. "You said his name out loud? You have to spit or something terrible is going to happen. Hurry!" He spit on the back of his other hand. I don't know why Fudge thinks that you're not supposed to say Harry Potter out loud, but he does. It's some kind of magic he invented. I knew he was too young to listen to the book on tape but Mom and Dad played it anyway driving back from summer vacation.
Me and the kids found this very humorous, since we are big Potter fans and we also listened to the books on tape over the summer. It just goes to show how universal Harry is when even Judy Blume is mentioning him in her books!
Laila
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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  8 11:19:04 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 11:19:04 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wand and Robes
Message-ID: <F273AEHLB8TrBHxvZ9a00008bd3@hotmail.com>

Richelle Wrote:

>They're kind of pricey, but this site has
>all sorts of robes. http://www.robeshop.com/  I doubt you want to pay $185,
>but the judical robes look great!  They do have a plain black choir robe,
>but it's still $65 (and that's a sale price, imagine!)

And I Say:

That's a pretty good price if you ask me...last weekend I spent about $75 
for the fabric, trim, thread and other misc. what-nots to make my own 
robe...that doesn't even cover the price of the pattern.  And I still have 
to put it all together.

I want to put in an order for my own wand next week (read: next 
paycheck)...how long did it take for your wand to be delivered?  Can I 
request not to have the glow-in-the-dark tip?

-Gail B.


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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 13:10:44 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:10:44 -0000
Subject: Wand and Robes
In-Reply-To: <F273AEHLB8TrBHxvZ9a00008bd3@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <anulgk+pe6q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Gail Bohacek" <gandharvika at h...> wrote:
> And I Say:
> 
> That's a pretty good price if you ask me...last weekend I spent 
about $75 
> for the fabric, trim, thread and other misc. what-nots to make my 
own 
> robe...that doesn't even cover the price of the pattern.  And I 
still have 
> to put it all together.
> 
> I want to put in an order for my own wand next week (read: next 
> paycheck)...how long did it take for your wand to be delivered?  
Can I 
> request not to have the glow-in-the-dark tip?
> 
> -Gail B.

Hi, Gail!  Another fellow costumer! :D  You can request that she 
leave off the "lumos"  stuff at the end of the wand, I think.  I'd 
just e-mail her ahead of time and let her know.  Which wand are you 
going to order?  

Alora





From nplyon at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 14:47:27 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Men in Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <1034063819.1487.43312.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021008144727.92445.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com>

snazzzybird said:
> 
> I've been reading the posts in this thread, and an
> idea has been taking shape in my fevered brain.  I'm

> picturing a multi-page, full-color spread in 
> Playgirl or Cosmo or some similar magazine:
> 
> "The Men of Harry Potter"
> 
> --and there they'd be, wearing come-hither 
> expressions and little else, each man posing in a 
> scene which expresses his own personality and 
> lifestyle.  Ohhhh, the possibilities!!!

Nicole stands staring eagerly at the magazine rack in
her local Barnes & Noble.  She is hyperventilating and
clutching a $5 bill in her sweaty hand.

When did you say this issue hits that stand?!  All I
know is that Sirius's motorcycle presents some
distinct possibilities.  This is almost as good as
Gail B.'s Charlie Weasley rock star filk!  A
come-hither expression on Sirius's face?  You betcha! 
Look out, Wizarding World, here I come!

~Nicole, who thinks she ought to contemplate
professional help for her Sirius Black affliction.  ;)

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From ferretlovr at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 16:16:33 2002
From: ferretlovr at yahoo.com (Jessica)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:16:33 -0000
Subject: Costume Robes (was: My wand is here!)
Message-ID: <anv0d1+acs9@eGroups.com>

>On another note, I can't find a robe for Halloween!! *whine and 
>pout*  Any suggestions? :D  This is so fun! wheeeeeee
>
>Alora

Alora, while you were on Ebay, did you look for a graduation gown?  
When I type this in, there are about 2 dozen listed, several black 
ones included.  I was going to dress up as Hermione myself this 
Halloween, but can't afford it, so I will wait until next year, and 
spend the time in between perfecting my costume-the best part?  My 
husband has already agreed to dye his hair red and be Ron, and our 
roommate (my husband's best friend)who has dark hair and green eyes 
said he'll play Harry!  I have my own trio, all ready for next 
Halloween. =)

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 20:33:14 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:33:14 -0000
Subject: Costume Robes (was: My wand is here!)
In-Reply-To: <anv0d1+acs9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <anvfea+njpq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jessica" <ferretlovr at y...> wrote:

> Alora, while you were on Ebay, did you look for a graduation 
gown?  
> When I type this in, there are about 2 dozen listed, several black 
> ones included.  I was going to dress up as Hermione myself this 
> Halloween, but can't afford it, so I will wait until next year, 
and 
> spend the time in between perfecting my costume-the best part?  My 
> husband has already agreed to dye his hair red and be Ron, and our 
> roommate (my husband's best friend)who has dark hair and green 
eyes 
> said he'll play Harry!  I have my own trio, all ready for next 
> Halloween. =)
> 
> moonlight

*thwacks herself on the head*  aargghh!  Yes, I have looked on ebay, 
but I put in graduation ROBE in the search box, and all that would 
come up was Ken and Barbie graduation clothes!  Thank you!!!  I put 
in graduation GOWN and a whole page of stuff came up!!  *runs off to 
go through ebay grad gowns*

Alora  :D




From saitaina at wizzards.net  Tue Oct  8 23:09:22 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (saitaina at wizzards.net)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:09:22 -0700
Subject: HP Dream
Message-ID: <00ed01c26f1f$bea13360$5e4e28d1@oemcomputer>

Okay, at the instance of a friend, I decided to post my latest Harry Potter related dream so you can see how weird I am.  As some of the images are fading I'll have to do a quick run through.

Alright, to start off, I was, for all intents and purposes, Hermione Granger.  Best friend of Harry Potter, muggle born, all that.  I had to have been in seventh year though it was summer during the dream. 

Anyway, for some reason, the place I was staying for the summer was right next door to the Malfoy's.  Every day I could go out in the front garden and watch as workman, Draco and Lucius went across their property in huge cement trucks.  Lucius kept claiming that it was an addition to the house but who puts and addition over by the river a few hundred yards from the main house?  I got close to Draco, winning his trust but of course he had no clue what it was. Someone came up with the brilliant plan to give Lucius a deal he couldn't refuse (something tells me this was Harry's idea).

Fast forward two weeks, while Lucius was working on his 'project', I introduced him to the idea of adopting a muggle born, using his ministry and magical ties and thus, insta female heir to marry into another pureblood family, thus protecting the family should anything happen to Draco.  Well, besides standing there dumbstruck for about two minutes where I was forced to contemplate how fast I could run, he finally agreed to it and suddenly I was Hermione Malfoy.  A complicated ritual that I don't remember and a lot of pain later, I was 'cleansed" of my foul blood.  

Fast forward a few more weeks, I had found out the secret, was actually a gaming room that Lucius was trying to hide from Narcissa.  I was attempting to "run away" and return to Harry and the lot but for some reason Lucius knicked my gryffindor school bag, thus preventing me from running away.  (Don't ask why I wouldn't just leave, something about needing to take all the fancy clothes Lucius bought me).

Anyway, I eventually got out of the house and for some reason agreed to meet Harry and Ron in a mall of all places.  Draco (who was working against Voldemort but not with Harry) and I arrived early and were sitting on a bench eating ice cream when we did this flirting thing and suddenly ended up lip locked.  Next thing we know we're being ripped apart by Lucius who yells at me for a good five minutes before ordering us to go home.  we left just as Harry and Ron were walking in.  Luckily the two caught on and didn't bother us.

Fast forward a year...

I stood at Voldemort's right hand, dressed like some Victorian porcelain dolls, my hair in curls with a big pink bow, a frilly lace dress on.  Lucius stood with his hand on my shoulder while Voldemort drank a potion and boom, Tom Riddle (as in Sixteen year old guy) was back.  Fast forward though a marriage ceremony that was long and boring.  I was the new, Mrs. Voldemort and Harry for some reason kept shaking his head at me every time I saw him while I danced with Draco, planning how to get me out of THIS mess.

The End.

So, comments, questions, offers of chocolate?

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From heidit at netbox.com  Wed Oct  9 01:17:26 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:17:26 -0400
Subject: Tragedy for a fandom member - please read
Message-ID: <01b201c26f31$a48ba110$3701010a@Frodo>

Some of you have already heard about the tragedy that one of our users
suffered last night. Margaret (username eireschilde) lost Robert, her
husband of three months, and her baby sister Nikki, in a car crash in
Scotland. A drunk driver hit their car. 

Margaret is expected to recover, but of course, she's suffering terribly
right now. We at FictionAlley, PoU and HP_Paradise, along with the
former moderators of Seven of Quills, are banding together to send
flowers and a flood of cards to Margaret and her family in this
difficult time. 

Address information for the cards will be available on Wednesday (US
time) but the email address that you can paypal your contribution to the
flowers fund is already available. ForMargaret at fictionalley.org is the
address to use when you visit https://www.paypal.com/ - just select Send
Money, and put Flowers Donation in either the subject or the note. Plu
will be coordinating the donations and arranging for the flower
purchases. John Walton will be organizing the cards.

We do want to send the flowers sooner rather than later, so if you could
make your contribution before Friday at 10:00 am eastern time, that
would be much appreciated. 

Heidi, Plu and John
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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct  9 01:34:42 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:34:42 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: My wand is here!
References: <anthsc+dc9d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <019501c26f34$0d07e940$63a1cdd1@istu757>

 Alora writes:

> Green?!  Eeeww, Slytherin!  *LOL*  You know, almost every sorting
> quiz I take (yes, I do take those personality quiz sorting thingies)
> puts me in Hufflepuff.  I think, deep down, I knew that already.
> Hehe.

Really? Every quiz I take puts me in Gryffindor.  Except one, which put me
in Ravenclaw, which is probably where I belong.

> Silly me, I didn't think of my local christian supply!  But then,
> they would probably keel over at what I wanted a robe for! :D  I've
> already gotten into heated debates with my friends.  :O

Well, not to worry.  There is now a book to defend you.  "The Gospel
According to Harry Potter."  I've gotta get that one.  Anybody read it yet?

> Thanks, Richelle!  I also found a website called the Springer
> Uniform Company that makes academic robes, judicial robes etc.  I'm
> going to check out that place, too, when I get a chance.  BTW, did
> you check out the robes at the wandshop?  What did you think?  I'm
> thinking my son might like one for Christmas....

I did look at them, but I tried *not* to look too much!  They did look
pretty good, though!

On another note, I was told today I look like Harry Potter.  Huh?  I was
telling another teacher at a workshop about our little "literary festival"
and explained who I was dressing up as.  She was looking at my binder with
(surprise!) pictures of Harry (i.e. Daniel) on it and informed me I looked
like him.  Well, he's cute as a button, so I guess that might be a good
thing, but the only similarities I see are dark hair and glasses.  I do have
green eyes, but Daniel has blue, so that can't be it. Go figure.

Richelle

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  9 02:56:13 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 02:56:13 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <010f01c26ce4$2303f380$129ccdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ao05sd+3271@eGroups.com>

Gail wrote:
>>> Am I forgetting anybody else?<<<


Me:
It took me a few days, but I finally realized someone y'all have left
out...

Barty Crouch Jr.

Yes I know he's evil's adopted son, but he is so brilliant.  Got to
love a man who can turn the tides his direction, fool genius
Dumbledore, and have fun skipping down the halls with a wooden leg at
the same time.  Granted I love a man whose mind is so crafty and
cunning.

Hmmm...why doesn't Voldemort seem so appealing then?  Probably those
slits he calls a nose.  He is cute as Riddle though.  Why does evil
ruin the best men?   :)

Ok so Barty would be a crush since Mom wouldn't like me bringing him
home...well Dad either...there is always Black...once I explain the 12
years he was in Azkaban...I promise Mom he was innocent...  His
passion is quite appealing and I'm sure would be quite enjoyable.

Lupin is the ideal man to bring home I agree.  Moms love his
gentleness and brains; Dads know he's good for his daughter.  Got to
hide him once a month though.  Nice padded room with a good scratching
post.  Hey, maybe Black could come by and appease him during the
time...wait too appealing...must not let that one slip into my day
dreams...<g>

Then there is the resident odd but intriguing Snape.  I was never on
his bandwagon, but if he is fleshed out to be a spy the whole time...
 Of course I equate Snape with Rickman, so I'm a bit bias because
Rickman has that incredible voice.  Gracious...that alone is worth the
greasy hair.  Though I do love his wit and sarcasm.  Would be fun to
sit next to him at a party cutting everyone down...

As for Dumbledore, he is quite amusing and would be interesting to
date, but he seems too...not serious but rather too... genius-like.
Caught up in his world and mind.  Maybe that is because he has lived
so long alone.

Oh, Lockhart, not my type at all.  Never has been.  He knows he is
handsome and wears it on his shoulder.  I hate those types.  Probably
because they never give me a second glance...

Between Charlie and Bill, I think Charlie edges out, though Bill is
quite intriguing.  Got to love a man though who is good with animals
and can finding things.  He can come in very handy.

I think I'll stop.  I rattled on for too long.  It did make me smile
though.  Here's hoping JKR keeps increasing her cast of 'Harry Potter
Men'.  They are just so wonderful.

Melody







From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  9 05:02:20 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 05:02:20 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <ao05sd+3271@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao0d8s+o32b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
 
> Hmmm...why doesn't Voldemort seem so appealing then?  Probably 
those
> slits he calls a nose.  He is cute as Riddle though.  Why does evil
> ruin the best men?   :)

I dont like the slits, either.  Eeww.  Not attractive at all!

> Lupin is the ideal man to bring home I agree.  Moms love his
> gentleness and brains; Dads know he's good for his daughter.  Got 
to
> hide him once a month though.  Nice padded room with a good 
scratching
> post.  Hey, maybe Black could come by and appease him during the
> time...wait too appealing...must not let that one slip into my day
> dreams...<g>


OooOoooOoooo  don't go there!  I try to stay out of that place......


> Then there is the resident odd but intriguing Snape.  I was never 
on
> his bandwagon, but if he is fleshed out to be a spy the whole 
time...
>  Of course I equate Snape with Rickman, so I'm a bit bias because
> Rickman has that incredible voice.  Gracious...that alone is worth 
the
> greasy hair.  Though I do love his wit and sarcasm.  Would be fun 
to
> sit next to him at a party cutting everyone down...

Ohhhh, Rickman's voice. I adore the man.  He's so...so..so very 
British.  I don't know.  All I know is that I love just about 
anything he does, and he makes an extraordinary Snape! 


> Oh, Lockhart, not my type at all.  Never has been.  He knows he is
> handsome and wears it on his shoulder.  I hate those types.  
Probably
> because they never give me a second glance...

Same here.  I had a crush on a few popular guys in high school and 
they never looked my way.  I wasn't surprised, though.  I knew I 
wouldn't like them I spent 5 minutes with them anyway! :D

> Between Charlie and Bill, I think Charlie edges out, though Bill is
> quite intriguing.  Got to love a man though who is good with 
animals
> and can finding things.  

I'll take Bill or Charlie! :D  They both sound so fascinating, and I 
can't wait until we find out more information on both of them!
 
> I think I'll stop.  I rattled on for too long.  It did make me 
smile
> though.  Here's hoping JKR keeps increasing her cast of 'Harry 
Potter
> Men'.  They are just so wonderful.

You're not rattling!  I'm enjoying this thread immensely ;). 
Keep up the thread, ladies! :O

Alora




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  9 12:19:01 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 12:19:01 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wand And Robes
Message-ID: <F524sGPDMJMRqR36bgm0000a158@hotmail.com>


Alora Wrote:

>Hi, Gail!  Another fellow costumer! :D  You can request >that she leave off 
>the "lumos"  stuff at the end of the >wand, I think.  I'd just e-mail her 
>ahead of time and >let her know.

Thanks for the advice...I will do that.

>Which wand are you going to order?

Ahhh...I'm going to be *unique*!  I'm designing my own!  Got it planned 
out...12 inches, yew, phoenix feather.  Really, really swishy...and the 
handle, I'm basing the design after the wands in the movie (by studying the 
CoS Poster book).  Very, simple.

-Gail B, the Nutcase (my new title, I think)


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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  9 17:59:29 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Men in HP
Message-ID: <20021009175929.30270.qmail@web40309.mail.yahoo.com>


Okay, I've held out long enough!  My turn on the Men of HP!

1. Lupin:  definitely the marrying type.  He's good with kids and gentle and sweet, and he's got that sexy animal side to him.

2. Sirius:  the exciting college boyfriend, when I was going through my "wild" stage.  Sexy animal side a definite plus!

3. Lockhart:  I probably would have had a crush on him when I was 13, but it wouldn't last, and I'd be laughing at him soon after.

4. Snape:  He's intriguing, and if he looked just like Rickman in the movies, then Heavens, yes!  At least the attraction is there.

5. Dumbledore:  nah...too much the grandpa figure.

6. Bill and Charlie:  Oh, yes!  They seem very into their careers at the moment, but I see them as the marrying type.  Plus, I'm a sucker for red-heads with a sense of humor!

7. Barty Crouch, JR.:  I was impressed with Moody!Crouch and how he helped Harry, but I don't know...he'd probably just use me, chew me up and spit me out.

8.  Moody:  I'll pass!

9.  Tom Riddle:  Only I were 16 again and if he looked just like Christian Coulson, the actor from the movie I am not ashamed to name:  HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS!!!  But not Voldemort.  Too skinny and snake-like.

10. Oliver Wood:  again, if I were 16-18 again...he seems really nice, too.  A bit preoccupied sports-wise, but nice nonetheless.

11.  James Potter:  He's the only married one, so I never had one on him.  Oh, and he's dead, too.  

11. Harry and Ron:  like someone said on the main list (was it Alora?  I erased it, so I can't check) that when reading I can get into the "I'm 14 again" mode with all the crushes and boy/girl stuff, but I generally feel like Harry and Ron's mom or older sister when thinking about them at this age: protective and wanting to help them.  Now, a grown-up, post-series Ron or Harry (18 or older), and I'm there.  I've read some really great fan-fic and seen wonderful fan-art of the Trio, et al, after age 20, that the possibilities are definitely there in the future.

I know some of the men on the list have been bemoaning the lack of attractive/legal women in the HP series.  I guess we have to thank JKR for that!  Sure, we women complain that there are not enough females in the books, but now that we're analyzing the attractiveness of the male characters and we notice there are an abundance of them, we should be thankful for the lack of females!  Okay, I'm kidding, but I think it does have to do with the fact that JKR is a het. female who wrote these books.  I'll even wager to say that the male slash fans don't mind the abundance of males either.

~Lilac~

 



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From witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  9 19:58:48 2002
From: witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com (Wanda the Witch)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:58:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tragedy for a fandom member -Heidi
In-Reply-To: <01b201c26f31$a48ba110$3701010a@Frodo>
Message-ID: <20021009195848.32627.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com>


Heidi, could you please send me your work address so I can send you a money order to do with as you need to. I don't have paypal. Also will be checking for the mailing address for sending her family a card. My husband and I are really shocked by this news. You never know from one moment to the next. Hope that they punish that driver. Because of someone's reckless decission to drink, a family is torn apart. Will be looking for your post.
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From akirabou at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  9 20:31:54 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 20:31:54 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <ao23nq+msr5@eGroups.com>

I'm 21.. so a nice age for most of the characters (in my opinion!).

1) Lupin is my number one choice. He just strikes me as being lonely,
and he's so nice and sweet! He's one of my favorite overall
characters, anyway.

2) Sirius is my second choice... I don't think he's much of a "bad
boy" anymore, though he will do dangerous things when he has to. He's
brave and very loyal, he's also a sweetheart. And if you had family
gatherings or parties, guess who'd come? Harry! :)

3) Fred or George are my third choice. Preferrably toward the end of
the books when they're a bit older... but I think dating one of them
would be great. They're both so funny, you'd never get bored. Also, I
wouldn't mind being associated with the Weasley family.

4) Bill or Charlie are my fourth choice (yes, I'm grouping Weasleys
together). I don't know enough about either of them to really be able
to pick one over the other... and they're both cool! I'm perhaps
leaning a bit toward Bill because of the hair.

As for the rest...

Dumbledore - Way too old.. I think of him more as a grandpa type.
Snape - He also seems lonely.. but.. I don't know, I just couldn't see
myself with him.
Barty Crouch Jr - I don't dig guys who are into the Dark Lord. :)
Tom Riddle - If he wasn't evil, hehe.
Voldemort - Yuck!
Mad Eye Moody - A bit too nutters for me.
Lockhart - He's a stuck up git.
Hagrid - He's a half giant... I'm 5'2".. hehe.
James Potter - Already married (and dead).

~ Kara

"[Sirius,] it would have made far more sense if you'd married him." He 
pointed at Lupin. "Nobody else can stand either one of you, and you 
could take each other for walks." - Snape from Draco Veritas






From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  9 23:17:09 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 23:17:09 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <ao0d8s+o32b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao2ddl+evl9@eGroups.com>

I wrote:
>>>>Lupin is the ideal man to bring home I agree.  Moms love his
gentleness and brains; Dads know he's good for his daughter.  Got
to hide him once a month though.  Nice padded room with a good
scratching post.  Hey, maybe Black could come by and appease him
during the time...wait too appealing...must not let that one slip into
my day dreams...<g>   >>>>

So alora wrote:
>>>>OooOoooOoooo  don't go there!  I try to stay out of that place...<<<

Me:
Normally I do too.  As Eliza Doolittle said, "I'm a good girl I am."
Not sure why the thought was so intriguing.  Probably because they are
fiction, and it is completely impossible already.  Still...I don't
think I can read the Shrieking Shack chapters ever the same again now
without giggling.  They do make an attractive pair of friends.  Now
imagine them with James....sigh, gracious.  Ok I have to stop...I'm
being way way too bad.  It'll be hard to play in the orchestra at
church tonight.  Hope God is quite forgiving and is amused by me
tonight.  I think he usually is.  :)



Kara wrote:  (I love your name) :)
>Mad Eye Moody - A bit too nutters for me.
>Hagrid - He's a half giant... I'm 5'2".. hehe.
>James Potter - Already married (and dead).

Me:
Ooo, I left those out.

Mad Eye Moody: Too damaged but is talented.  I wouldn't stop staring
at his nose though.  And I would inevitably sit up all night worrying
if he would be hexed or injured.  Too exhausting.

Hagrid: I'm 5'4" so it would be a bit odd...and probably painful...

James: How could I leave out him.  Valiant, kind, compassionate, ready
to protect his wife and kid, smart, has that invisibility
cloak...hmmm, I just can't remove the thought that he is married thus
off the market.  Hey I may joke about Black and Lupin under one roof
but marriage, even a fictional one, is sacred.  But if I really
suspend my reality...

Sigh, I love being single and literate some days.  :)

Melody









From akirabou at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 00:09:55 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:09:55 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <ao2ddl+evl9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao2ggj+n6p6@eGroups.com>

Melody wrote:

> Kara wrote:  (I love your name) :)

I like your name, too! 
 
> Hey I may joke about Black and Lupin under one roof
> but marriage, even a fictional one, is sacred.  But if I really
> suspend my reality...

Actually, of all the possible slash pairings, I think Lupin and Sirius
as a couple is probably the most believable. While I like reading
Harry/Draco in fics, I can't see it ever happening in the actual
books. Lupin and Sirius, though, wouldn't surprise me.. they'd be a
sweet couple. 

Oh, and in case someone doesn't find any of these men appealing...
there's always Ludo Bagman! ;) 

~ Kara

"D'you think we've got nothing better to do in Potions than listen to
Snape?" -Ron





From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 01:01:52 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:01:52 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F54EAdXekbEJegb9oy5000042f1@hotmail.com>



Nicole Said:

>Nicole stands staring eagerly at the magazine rack in
>her local Barnes & Noble.  She is hyperventilating and
>clutching a $5 bill in her sweaty hand.

And I'm standing there, right behind you, trying to take cuts :)>

>When did you say this issue hits that stand?!  All I
>know is that Sirius's motorcycle presents some
>distinct possibilities.

Oh my goodness!  I forgot all about Sirius' motorbike!  How could I have 
forgotten the motorbike?  That's at least 500 coolness points awarded to 
Black just for that alone!

Then Melody Spoke:

>It took me a few days, but I finally realized someone >y'all have left 
>out...
>
>Barty Crouch Jr.

Oh, please...don't tell me you're one of those...

I'd rather think that Barty Jr is out of the running, seeing that HE'S GOT 
HIS SOUL SUCKED OUT OF HIM!

Sorry about that

But hey, if that's your thing...go for it.  I'd think he'd be pretty boring 
on dates.  But then again, you'll never have an argument with him :)>

Melody Then Mused:

>Hmmm...why doesn't Voldemort seem so appealing then?  >Probably those slits 
>he calls a nose.  He is cute as >Riddle though.  Why does evil ruin the 
>best men?   :)

I would always be afraid that he's Crucio or AK me at any given moment.  He 
also just doesn't get the concept of "love"...that's a bit of a downer, too.

Then Melody Intelligently Pointed Out:

>  Of course I equate Snape with Rickman, so I'm a bit >bias because Rickman 
>has that incredible voice.  >Gracious...that alone is worth the greasy 
>hair.  Though >I do love his wit and sarcasm.  Would be fun to
>sit next to him at a party cutting everyone down...

Oooo...don't get me started :)>

Too late.  When I first read the books, I immediately dug Snape...and when I 
saw the movie and laid my eyes on Rickman, then oh, I fell in love.  *swoon* 
  Yes Melody...that voice!

Alora Agreed:

>Ohhhh, Rickman's voice. I adore the man.  He's >so...so..so very British.  
>I don't know.  All I know is >that I love just about anything he does, and 
>he makes >an extraordinary Snape!

Amen.

>Keep up the thread, ladies! :O

That's what I'm trying to do!

-Gail B. who wonders if there are any men lurking around this thread and 
also wonders if they think we're all nutcases.

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 01:28:20 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:28:20 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <F54EAdXekbEJegb9oy5000042f1@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <ao2l3k+f5u9@eGroups.com>

Melody Spoke:
>>>It took me a few days, but I finally realized someone y'all have
left out...Barty Crouch Jr.<<<<

So Gail B frowned:
>>>Oh, please...don't tell me you're one of those...
> I'd rather think that Barty Jr is out of the running, seeing that
HE'S GOT HIS SOUL SUCKED OUT OF HIM!
 Sorry about that.  But hey, if that's your thing...go for it.  I'd
think he'd be pretty boring on dates.  But then again, you'll never
have an argument with him :)>>>>

Me:
No, Barty Jr. is facinating alive and with his soul only.  But true,
he is rather dull now.  Kind of puts a damper on the dreams.  Besides,
what fun is a man if you can't argue with him?

I just find Barty interesting for his mind alone.  Maybe also his
cuteness though he is described little in the books.  *My* Barty is
very cute.  ;)



Gail B. then wisely pointed out:
> I would always be afraid that he'd <Voldemort> Crucio or AK me at
any given moment.  He  also just doesn't get the concept of
"love"...that's a bit of a downer, too.>

Me:  Ooo, a point I missed.  So Voldemort may be powerful and evil
personified which can be appealing...too some...but not understanding
love is a depressing.  Seems he needs to cuddle his pet Nagini more
often.  So therefore we can all agree, Voldemort is ugly, mean, cruel,
and worst of all self-involved.  Ok, so to get the girls, he needs to
be really, really rich.  ;)  Hey worked for Lucius.


Kara also remembered:
>>>Oh, and in case someone doesn't find any of these men appealing...
there's always Ludo Bagman! ;) <<<

Me:
I have never liked Bagman.  He is just too childish.  He reminds me
about the guys from high school that never get past the "glory days"
of youth.  Bagman might be a trophy boyfriend for his past and might
be fun to pal around town, but, as a date or husband, I would be
embarassed to be equated with him.



Lastly, Gail B then pointed out:
>>who wonders if there are any men lurking around this thread and also
wonders if they think we're all nutcases.<<<

Me:
We're girls.  It is fun to be silly.
GulPlum tried to bring the guys out in the main group to voice thier
crushed on what few "hot girls" are in the series.  Given the lack of
responses, it seems they were too shy.  Too bad.  They are missing out
on all the fun.

Melody




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 12:35:43 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:35:43 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Men of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <F1108Cx1RWlV5F8tCnK00014746@hotmail.com>


Melody Said:

>No, Barty Jr. is fascinating alive and with his soul only.  But true,
>he is rather dull now.  Kind of puts a damper on the dreams.  Besides,
>what fun is a man if you can't argue with him?
>
>I just find Barty interesting for his mind alone.  Maybe also his
>cuteness though he is described little in the books.  *My* Barty is
>very cute.  ;)

I Admit:

Okay, you got me there...Barty Jr. does deserve an Academy Award for his 
role as Mad-Eye Moody.  Even fooled good ol' Dumbledore.  Fascinating, I 
agree, but there's not much to go on as far as canon is concerned, I'm 
afraid.

Kara Suggested:

>Oh, and in case someone doesn't find any of these men appealing...
>there's always Ludo Bagman! ;)

To Which I Respond:

Ludo?  Well, he has that gambling problem...and he's in big trouble with the 
goblins...kinda sounds like being in trouble with the mafia.  Wouldn't want 
to hang around a guy like that!

Kara Also Mentioned:

>Mad Eye Moody - A bit too nutters for me.

To Which Melody Agreed:

>Mad Eye Moody: Too damaged but is talented.  I wouldn't stop staring
>at his nose though.  And I would inevitably sit up all night worrying
>if he would be hexed or injured.  Too exhausting.

And I Thoughtfully Say:

I could see myself hanging until late at night at the local pub with Moody, 
listening to all his cool Auror stories...but you're right, Melody...I'd be 
gawking at his nose, too.  Ye gods!  If his face is all messed up, I wonder 
how the rest of his body looks like?  Eeek!  I think Moody should be skipped 
as far as our "Men of Harry Potter" mag. is concerned :)>

Kara Then Said:

>Hagrid - He's a half giant... I'm 5'2".. hehe.

And I Thoughtfully Throw In:

Now that's something you got to think about...I mean, Hagrid is only a 
half-giant, and he's described as pretty huge.  How big are full-breed 
giants?  And then, for me, the mental image of Hagrid's dad and mom on the 
night of his conception starts to boggle my mind...oh, don't take me there.

Melody Then Wrote:

>James: How could I leave out him.  Valiant, kind, >compassionate, ready to 
>protect his wife and kid, >smart, has that invisibility cloak...hmmm, I 
>just can't >remove the thought that he is married thus off the >market.  
>Hey I may joke about Black and Lupin under one >roof but marriage, even a 
>fictional one, is sacred.  >But if I really suspend my reality...

And I Concur:

Have to agree with you on that point...that's why I didn't bring him up.

I Previously Wrote:

>who wonders if there are any men lurking around this >thread and also
>wonders if they think we're all nutcases

To Which Melody Replied:

>We're girls.  It is fun to be silly.
>GulPlum tried to bring the guys out in the main group to voice their 
>crushed on what few "hot girls" are in >the series.  Given the lack of 
>responses, it seems they >were too shy.  Too bad.  They are missing out
>on all the fun.

And I Agree:

Yes, it is a lot of fun.  But I don't think there are enough *women* (under 
age girls, yes, but not women) to make a "Women of Harry Potter" mag...and 
if the men did start a thread along those lines, the same way we are talking 
about the guys, I'd imagine a bunch women would start jumping down their 
throats, accusing them of being sexist.  But that comment right there is 
enough to start a whole new thread...

>"D'you think we've got nothing better to do in Potions >than listen to 
>Snape?" -Ron

I wouldn't be listening to Snape, either...just ogling him with glazed 
eyes....Ah, Snape!

With that in mind...off to work I go!

-Gail B.



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From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 14:12:39 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:12:39 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
Message-ID: <ao41sn+s51b@eGroups.com>

Hi all, I am new to the group.  I am also dressing up as a Hogwarts 
student for Halloween!  I just wanted to let you guys know that I 
ordered an Adult Small Black "Cat" Robe from TheWandShop and I was 
very disappointed when I received it.  The robe was PAPER THIN 
(although the site says that it would be lined) and the sleeves were a 
bit short for my taste and I hate to say this, but the Harry Potter 
robes you find on the shelves during Halloween look better!  I 
returned it right away and thewandmaker graciously refunded me my 
$38.00.  I found out it would be best to make my own robe.  I am not 
using a pattern though (those look a bit complicated for me LOL).  
Instead, I am modeling the robe from the Halloween costume children's 
version (Large) and making it longer using a thick, black canvas type 
of material.  That way, I wouldn't have to line it and it would double 
as a light "coat" for a cold night. :)  Oh yeah, and I am also adding 
a hood and a patch. :)  I also found this authentic looking dark metal 
 cloak clasp from some Renaissance website for only $2.50!  All I need 
now are knee socks and Mary Jane shoes and I'm all set.  I have the 
sweater (which I hand embroidered--my hands are killin' me), pleated 
skirt & ties.

Are any of you from CA?  We should all get together and dress up for 
the premiere! :)





From keegan at mcn.org  Thu Oct 10 15:50:07 2002
From: keegan at mcn.org (Catherine Keegan)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:50:07 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao41sn+s51b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20021010084703.011c8950@mail.mcn.org>

At 02:12 PM 10/10/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Are any of you from CA?  We should all get together and dress up for
>the premiere! :)

Which part of the state?  I'm from Mendocino coast.  (North)

Will you post photos of your costume?  Good for you!  I would have gone 
wool for the robe or something that drapes so I'm curious to see how your 
heavy fabric works.  Are you making your own hat?  Pretty easy with buckram 
or even cardboard rolled into a cone shape and then covered with 
fabric.  You could also do it with felt, but you'll need to wire it to keep 
the shape.  Wiring the base would be a good idea just because.

Best of luck,

Catherine from California where it's socked in with fog this morning



From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 13:43:25 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:43:25 -0000
Subject: Gryffindor ties for your costume!
Message-ID: <ao405t+egml@eGroups.com>

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 17:41:36 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:41:36 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao41sn+s51b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao4e4g+hu8g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at y...> wrote:
> Hi all, I am new to the group.  I am also dressing up as a 
Hogwarts 
> student for Halloween!  I just wanted to let you guys know that I 
> ordered an Adult Small Black "Cat" Robe from TheWandShop and I was 
> very disappointed when I received it.  The robe was PAPER THIN 
> (although the site says that it would be lined) and the sleeves 
were a 
> bit short for my taste and I hate to say this, but the Harry 
Potter 
> robes you find on the shelves during Halloween look better!  I 
> returned it right away and thewandmaker graciously refunded me my 
> $38.00.  

Oh, I am so glad you said something!  I was just tossing the idea 
around, although my son already has the store bought costume from 
last year, I'd like to get him something a little better.  I sew 
(simple things), so I may just make him one of his own.  I think I 
will pass on the robe from the wandmaker. 

>All I need 
> now are knee socks and Mary Jane shoes and I'm all set.  I have 
the 
> sweater (which I hand embroidered--my hands are killin' me), 
pleated 
> skirt & ties.

I found a college grad robe (FINALLY!) at a thrift store, of all 
places, and I have a white shirt and a Gryffindor tie. My best 
friend has a v-neck grey sweater for me, too.  I was thinking of 
finding a grey skirt, like the one Hermione wears, but I have yet to 
see one, even at the thrift store.  But I will keep looking.  How 
did you hand embroider the sweater?
 
> Are any of you from CA?  We should all get together and dress up 
for 
> the premiere! :)

Oh, Man!  I wish there was someone around here that wanted to do 
that.  I am the only grown up I know that wants to dress up.  My 
best friend (she enjoys HP but not to the extent that I do) said she 
would crawl under the seat if I dressed up!  *LOL*  So much for 
friendship ;).  

Alora




From nplyon at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 19:02:50 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <1034236860.561.43578.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021010190250.23209.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, since swooning over fictional characters is my
favorite past time lately (hello Legolas and Sirius),
I thought I'd go right ahead and swoon some more.  :)

Lilac said:
> 1. Lupin:  definitely the marrying type.  He's good
> with kids and gentle and sweet, and he's got that
> sexy animal side to him.

Just keep him away from the furniture when it's "That
Time of Month".  <Sigh>  "Honey, that's the fifth
couch we've had to buy this year!"  Of course, as some
women have already astutely pointed out, at least he'd
be a man who would understand what it's like to turn
into a raging beast once a month.  :)  I'd say that
Lupin is my second choice, right behind Sirius.  I'd
love to take Lupin home, get him fed, and patch his
clothes up for him.  I think he needs some nurturing,
which I would be willing to provide.  :)

> 
> 2. Sirius:  the exciting college boyfriend, when I
> was going through my "wild" stage.  Sexy animal side
> a definite plus!

I think I like Sirius so much because I'm half
Italian.  All that passion and intensity makes me
swoon.  I love the drama, love the loud discussions
where someone says, "What were you fighting about?"
and you say, "We weren't fighting, we were just having
a discussion."  The animal part would be great too. 
He's a husband, father, and family pet all rolled into
one.  No more trips to the vet and no more need to buy
dog biscuits.  :)

> 
> 3. Lockhart:  I probably would have had a crush on
> him when I was 13, but it wouldn't last, and I'd be
> laughing at him soon after.

He's the guy that I'd roll my eyes at and pull a
disgusted face.  But then I'd probably laugh at how
absurd he is.

> 
> 4. Snape:  He's intriguing, and if he looked just
> like Rickman in the movies, then Heavens, yes!  At
> least the attraction is there.

I'll take Movie!Snape.  He doesn't seem to have the
hair grease problem that Book!Snape does.  And if he
said anything mean or rude, I'd be too busy swooning
over his sexy deep voice to notice.  :)

> 
> 5. Dumbledore:  nah...too much the grandpa figure.

I don't like 'em quite that old.

> 
> 6. Bill and Charlie:  Oh, yes!  They seem very into
> their careers at the moment, but I see them as the
> marrying type.  Plus, I'm a sucker for red-heads
> with a sense of humor!

I'll go with Bill.  Charlie would be nice to have as a
brother-in-law but I just find Bill sexier.  He's got
that James Bond-ish, movie star action hero sort of
job.  Plus I'd love to see Egypt.  And the long hair
appeals to me too.  And I think Gail is right, he
would look fabulous in leather pants.

> 
> 7. Barty Crouch, JR.:  I was impressed with
> Moody!Crouch and how he helped Harry, but I don't
> know...he'd probably just use me, chew me up and
> spit me out.

Hmm, this is an interesting one.  I'm not sure how I
feel about it.  He's definitely clever as he managed
to hoodwink even Dumbledore.  I admire that.  But I
think his attraction to the dark side would put me
off.

> 
> 8.  Moody:  I'll pass!

Moody's a little too paranoid for me.  I'll have to
pass on that one.  :)

> 
> 9.  Tom Riddle:  Only I were 16 again and if he
> looked just like Christian Coulson, the actor from
> the movie I am not ashamed to name:  HARRY POTTER
> AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS!!!  But not Voldemort. 
> Too skinny and snake-like.

Well, Tom Riddle sounds very physically appealing but
I think I'd probably get tired of his constant ranting
about how much he hates his Muggle family.  <Yawn> 
Plus the attraction to snakes just doesn't do it for
me.  As for Voldie, bring him on!  I have always
wanted a man with a high-pitched voice and glowing red
eyes.  Just kidding!

> 
> 10. Oliver Wood:  again, if I were 16-18 again...he
> seems really nice, too.  A bit preoccupied
> sports-wise, but nice nonetheless.

I think he'd be too obsessed with Quidditch to pay
enough attention to me.  He'd be fun at first and it
would be great to date a big sports star but I think
I'd get bored of constantly rehashing the latest
Quidditch matches over dinner.

> 
> 11.  James Potter:  He's the only married one, so I
> never had one on him.  Oh, and he's dead, too.  

Married=off limits to me.  Okay, sure, I'm married and
I still have crushes on fictional characters and movie
stars but, for some reason, I just can't have a crush
on one who is married.  Go figure.  :)

> 
> 11. Harry and Ron:  like someone said on the main
> list (was it Alora?  I erased it, so I can't check)
> that when reading I can get into the "I'm 14 again"
> mode with all the crushes and boy/girl stuff, but I
> generally feel like Harry and Ron's mom or older
> sister when thinking about them at this age:
> protective and wanting to help them.  Now, a
> grown-up, post-series Ron or Harry (18 or older),
> and I'm there.  I've read some really great fan-fic
> and seen wonderful fan-art of the Trio, et al, after
> age 20, that the possibilities are definitely there
> in the future.

If I were the same age as them, I think I'd be more
attracted to Ron.  I think that Harry is a lovely
person but I'd like Ron's sarcastic humor as it's very
close to my own sense of humor.  I would also
appreciate his bravery and willingness to stick his
neck out for people he cares about.

Kara said: 
> 3) Fred or George are my third choice. Preferrably
> toward the end of
> the books when they're a bit older... but I think
> dating one of them
> would be great. They're both so funny, you'd never
> get bored. Also, I
> wouldn't mind being associated with the Weasley
> family.

Oh yeah, I'm all about Gred and Forge.  They're
athletic, have a fantastic sense of humor, and are
fiercely protective of their friends.  However, I do
think that I'd be embarrassed by the lengths they're
willing to go to get attention but I have to say that
I think there'd never be a dull moment with either of
them, so that's a definite plus.  I also like how they
do not let things faze them.  I could use some lessons
on that!

> Hagrid - He's a half giant... I'm 5'2".. hehe.

Hagrid's also too tall for me.  Plus, as sweet as I
think Hagrid is, I'd get really annoyed with his
always bringing home some dangerous or destructive
creature.  "That's it!  It's either the blast ended
skrewt or me, Hagrid!"

Kara said:
> 
> Oh, and in case someone doesn't find any of these
> men appealing...
> there's always Ludo Bagman! ;) 

I'll pass on Ludo, thanks.  The last thing I need to
is to date another dishonest man.  :)

What about Percy?  He's too pompous for me but I would
appreciate his extreme seriousness when it comes to
academics.  It's always nice to be with a man who has
a lot of drive to succeed at his career but then I
think Percy is the type to be a bit neglectful of his
significant other because he is such a workaholic.

I Said:
> 
> >Nicole stands staring eagerly at the magazine rack
> in
> >her local Barnes & Noble.  She is hyperventilating
> and
> >clutching a $5 bill in her sweaty hand.

And Gail responded:
> 
> And I'm standing there, right behind you, trying to
> take cuts :)>

Oooh, I feel a cat fight coming on.  ;)  In the midst
of all the hair-pulling, magazine pages would be
flying everywhere!

Melody said:
> We're girls.  It is fun to be silly.
> GulPlum tried to bring the guys out in the main
> group to voice thier
> crushed on what few "hot girls" are in the series. 
> Given the lack of
> responses, it seems they were too shy.  Too bad. 
> They are missing out
> on all the fun.
> 

Yes, I agree.  There's always the Dead Sexy!Mrs.
LeStrange to discuss at least!  Well, maybe more
appealing female characters will be introduced in the
coming books and then the men will take the list over
with their hormone-drenched messages about the sexy
women of the series.  :)  Of course, they'll have some
stiff competition as there will be more Sirius and
Lupin in future books.  Come on, JKR!  We ladies need
some new Sirius and Lupin material to swoon over!

~Nicole, who wonders why her husband thinks she's a
raving lunatic.  ;)

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From kdavison at shreve.net  Thu Oct 10 18:34:34 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:34:34 -0500
Subject: About Robes, and Men 
References: <ao41sn+s51b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002001c2708b$af3ef8e0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Hi, I am also new.  I'm Kim, from Texas.  :-)
Anyway, I am dressing up as Hermione, and my two boys are going as Harry and
Ron (5 years and 2 years old).  (and Hubby is going as a Muggle, LOL)  I
made our robes, sweaters, and ties, and bought the white shirts and grey
pants.  I was wondering what type of patch you are using?  I have looked all
over for *something* that would work, and have come up emptyhanded so far.
btw, I got our material for $10 (total!) because it was on clearance.  What
a deal, and it is really nice knit material.  So for all three of our
costumes, I spent less than the *one* children's robe cost at the stores.
This was my first major sewing project, too, before now the only thing I
have ever sewn is curtains, LOL!  So I am really quite proud of these.
btw, I am a total Lupin girl myself, and I really love the conversation you
guys have had going the past few days!
:-)  Kim


----- Original Message -----
From: "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at yahoo.com>
  Oh yeah, and I am also adding
> a hood and a patch. :)






From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:17:31 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:17:31 -0000
Subject: HP Symposium Chat
Message-ID: <ao4qpb+5gd1@eGroups.com>

For anyone interested, the Nimbus_2003 team is holding a chat 
tonight: 

Chat about fandom-centric programming 

Thursday October 10, 2002
9:00 pm - 11:00 pm 

Informal Potter: Developing Fandom Culture Programming 

(A Chat-Summit for Harry Potter Fans Who Wish to Plan Daytime Panels, 
Workshops, and Discussions at the Nimbus - 2003 Symposium)

When: Thursday, October 10, 2002 @ 9 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time

Where: The Harry Potter for Grownups Chatroom

Please forward all inquiries to selah_1977 at yahoo.com -- or simply 
show up.

We look forward to seeing you there!
 

-Jessica




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 21:20:42 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:20:42 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao4e4g+hu8g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao4qva+ehnk@eGroups.com>

Filmgeek20 Asked:

> Are any of you from CA?  We should all get together and dress up 
> for 
> > the premiere! :)
 
To Which Alora Responded:

> Oh, Man!  I wish there was someone around here that wanted to do 
> that.  I am the only grown up I know that wants to dress up.  My 
> best friend (she enjoys HP but not to the extent that I do) said 
>she would crawl under the seat if I dressed up!  *LOL*  So much for 
> friendship ;).  

To Which I Sympathise:

Oh, Man!  Me too...me too!  At least you have a friend to go with, 
Alora, I ain't got NOBODY! *sob*.

I'm very pleased to say, though, that just yesterday I cut out the 
pieces for my robes from the pattern.  I also put together the mock-
up for the pointy hat and tried it on...it looks so cool!  I'm so 
geeked!  I want to wear my robes for the premiere, but I'm thinking 
that I'm going to chicken out.  What I think I will do is keep them 
in the car, and see if there will be any other freaks out there 
wearing garb   If there are, then I'll run and put mine on. 

-Gail B.

  




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:25:46 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:25:46 -0000
Subject: About Robes, and Men
In-Reply-To: <002001c2708b$af3ef8e0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <ao4r8q+7786@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Kimberly Davison" <kdavison at s...> 
wrote:
> Hi, I am also new.  I'm Kim, from Texas.  :-)
> Anyway, I am dressing up as Hermione, and my two boys are going as 
Harry and
> Ron (5 years and 2 years old).  (and Hubby is going as a Muggle, 
LOL)  I
> made our robes, sweaters, and ties, and bought the white shirts 
and grey
> pants.  I was wondering what type of patch you are using?  I have 
looked all
> over for *something* that would work, and have come up emptyhanded 
so far.
> btw, I got our material for $10 (total!) because it was on 
clearance.  What
> a deal, and it is really nice knit material.  So for all three of 
our
> costumes, I spent less than the *one* children's robe cost at the 
stores.
> This was my first major sewing project, too, before now the only 
thing I
> have ever sewn is curtains, LOL!  So I am really quite proud of 
these.
> btw, I am a total Lupin girl myself, and I really love the 
conversation you
> guys have had going the past few days!
> :-)  Kim

Woo Hoo!  Another adult dresser-upper!  :D  I hate to tell you this, 
Kim, but I bit the bullet and got an actual Gryffindor patch.  I 
know, I know, it was too much.  But by gathering all my pieces from 
thrift stores, I had only spent about 14 dollars.  So I paid the 
price for a patch! :O  It's iron on, but I am only going to pin it 
carefully on the grad robe I am using.  You should take pictures and 
post them!  I would love to see you and your family!

Alora
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at y...>
>   Oh yeah, and I am also adding
> > a hood and a patch. :)




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:28:37 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:28:37 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao4qva+ehnk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao4re5+6ajh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Gail Ann Bohacek" <gandharvika at h...> 
wrote:
> To Which I Sympathise:
> 
> Oh, Man!  Me too...me too!  At least you have a friend to go with, 
> Alora, I ain't got NOBODY! *sob*.
> 
> I'm very pleased to say, though, that just yesterday I cut out the 
> pieces for my robes from the pattern.  I also put together the 
mock-
> up for the pointy hat and tried it on...it looks so cool!  I'm so 
> geeked!  I want to wear my robes for the premiere, but I'm 
thinking 
> that I'm going to chicken out.  What I think I will do is keep 
them 
> in the car, and see if there will be any other freaks out there 
> wearing garb   If there are, then I'll run and put mine on. 
> 
> -Gail B.

Gail,

I am going to the premiere by myself, the day it opens.  Usually, 
there is no one there, except for about 20 other people.  I don't 
think I will dress up then - it's no fun if there are no people to 
see, right?!  *LOL*  But, when I take my kids a few days after the 
premiere, I might wear them...I don't know!  I might chicken out, 
too!  hehehe  I hope I don't.  If my boys tell me they want me to 
wear them, then I will.  Oh, what the heck!  At least I will look as 
though I am having fun, which I will be!  :D

Alora




From akirabou at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:40:58 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:40:58 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <20021010190250.23209.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ao4s5a+9shg@eGroups.com>

Nicole wrote:
> Well, since swooning over fictional characters is my
> favorite past time lately (hello Legolas and Sirius),
> I thought I'd go right ahead and swoon some more.  :)

Yes! Legolas... *drool*

> I'll take Movie!Snape.  He doesn't seem to have the
> hair grease problem that Book!Snape does.  And if he
> said anything mean or rude, I'd be too busy swooning
> over his sexy deep voice to notice.  :)

Yes.. Movie!Snape is much more appealing than Book!Snape.
 
> I'll pass on Ludo, thanks.  The last thing I need to
> is to date another dishonest man.  :)

Nonono you guys... I was just teasing about Ludo... ^^  I mean, I
might as well have mentioned Karkaroff. Eeps!

~ Kara (of Mirkwood ;)






From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:47:20 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao4qva+ehnk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021010214720.57304.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com>

Filmgeek20 Asked:
> Are any of you from CA?  We should all get together and dress up 
> for the premiere! :)

To Which Alora Responded:
> Oh, Man!  I wish there was someone around here that wanted to do 
> that.  I am the only grown up I know that wants to dress up.  My 
> best friend (she enjoys HP but not to the extent that I do) said 
>she would crawl under the seat if I dressed up!  *LOL*  So much for 
> friendship ;).  

To Which Gail Sympathised:
> Oh, Man!  Me too...me too!  At least you have a friend to go with, 
> Alora, I ain't got NOBODY! *sob*.
> 
> I'm very pleased to say, though, that just yesterday I cut out the 
> pieces for my robes from the pattern.  I also put together the mock-
> up for the pointy hat and tried it on...it looks so cool!  I'm so 
> geeked!  I want to wear my robes for the premiere, but I'm thinking 
> that I'm going to chicken out.  What I think I will do is keep them 
> in the car, and see if there will be any other freaks out there 
> wearing garb   If there are, then I'll run and put mine on. 

Okay, newbie stepping in here.  Gail, *please* don't chicken out!  You'll
regret it!  I let my hubby shame me into not wearing my uniform to my first
(and so far only) Star Trek convention (yes, I am a geek on many levels).  I
still regret it!  I felt so out of place!  If I get the chance to buy or make
some robes before the premiere (I'm moving the weekend before Halloween -
somebody please shoot me), I will definitely wear them!  If there are no freaks
in your neighborhood, the rest of us will be with you in spirit, I promise.

Sherry


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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 22:27:39 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:27:39 -0000
Subject: Hagrid's parents with a bit of Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <F1108Cx1RWlV5F8tCnK00014746@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <ao4usr+g2oi@eGroups.com>

 Gail B Thoughtfuly wondered:
>>>And then, for me, the mental image of Hagrid's dad and mom on the
night of his conception starts to boggle my mind...oh, don't take me
there.<<<


Me:
I was wondering if anyone else had a problem with that mental image.
I was going to ask the question on the main site, but could not figure
out how to phrase it delicately.  How does a tiny wizard and a full
grown 20-foot giantess...um, well...enjoy the conception of thier son?
 Maybe that is why they only had one child?  She did leave him
afterall.  Hagrid blames it on her "nature" but maybe...

Ok I had no intentions of wandering down this path this far, but I
guess this couple shows that love can conquer all...or that love is
blind.


Then Nicole pointed out about Sirius:
>>>The animal part would be great too.
He's a husband, father, and family pet all rolled into
one. No more trips to the vet and no more need to buy
dog biscuits. :)  <<<

Me:
ROTFL, Nicole that is hilarious.  Hey, at least you have a husband
that will fetch the mail and your slippers.  :)

Melody





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 22:57:52 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:57:52 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <20021010214720.57304.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ao50lg+3v6a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Sherry Garfio <sgarfio at y...> wrote:
> Okay, newbie stepping in here.  Gail, *please* don't chicken out!  
You'll
> regret it!  I let my hubby shame me into not wearing my uniform to 
my first
> (and so far only) Star Trek convention (yes, I am a geek on many 
levels).  I
> still regret it!  I felt so out of place!  If I get the chance to 
buy or make
> some robes before the premiere (I'm moving the weekend before 
Halloween -
> somebody please shoot me), I will definitely wear them!  If there 
are no freaks
> in your neighborhood, the rest of us will be with you in spirit, I 
promise.
> 
> Sherry


Sherry!  A star trek fan!  :D  You're not the only one, I PROMISE.  
That's my other obsession.......erm, that, and Lord of the Rings.  
It is so nice to know that I am not alone in my obsessions!!


Alora
> 
> 
> =====
> "The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, 
gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, 
deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above-average drivers."
> 
>       -Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"
> 
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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 10 23:39:59 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:39:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor ties for your costume!/ About Robes and men
References: <ao405t+egml@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c270b6$5968e2c0$52a0cdd1@istu757>



> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=722696352
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=722331559

Yikes.  I think I will start a new trend.  The tieless Hermione. :)
Alora writes:

> Woo Hoo!  Another adult dresser-upper!  :D  I hate to tell you this,
> Kim, but I bit the bullet and got an actual Gryffindor patch.  I
> know, I know, it was too much.  But by gathering all my pieces from
> thrift stores, I had only spent about 14 dollars.  So I paid the
> price for a patch! :O  It's iron on, but I am only going to pin it
> carefully on the grad robe I am using.  You should take pictures and
> post them!  I would love to see you and your family!

Where did you get the patch?  No, don't tell me.  I am nearly finished
painstakingly cross stitching my own. :)  My skirt is straight, not pleated
(shame on me) and I don't have a sweater (it is entirely too hot in
Louisiana, I'll be lucky not to pass out from heat exhaustion with a robe
on, let alone a sweater!)  And from the looks of it I may not have a tie
either.  <sigh>  Well, I've got a cool wand, that's what's important. :)

> Nicole wrote:
> > Well, since swooning over fictional characters is my
> > favorite past time lately (hello Legolas and Sirius),
> > I thought I'd go right ahead and swoon some more.  :)

Kara wrote:
> Yes! Legolas... *drool*

I just can't see why everyone drools over Legolas.  Now as for Aragorn
<sigh> that's another story.

Melody writes:

> Barty Crouch Jr.
>
> Yes I know he's evil's adopted son, but he is so brilliant.  Got to
> love a man who can turn the tides his direction, fool genius
> Dumbledore, and have fun skipping down the halls with a wooden leg at
> the same time.  Granted I love a man whose mind is so crafty and
> cunning.

He was incredibly likeable.  Even if it was an act.  He had an interesting
mind.  Shame he was corrupted by evil so early in life.

> Lupin is the ideal man to bring home I agree.  Moms love his
> gentleness and brains; Dads know he's good for his daughter.  Got to
> hide him once a month though.  Nice padded room with a good scratching
> post.  Hey, maybe Black could come by and appease him during the
> time...wait too appealing...must not let that one slip into my day
> dreams...<g>

Now, now, behave yourself.  :)  Still, as long as Lupin takes his Wolfsbane
potion he said himself he just curls up in his office and sleeps.  He could
still keep your feet warm on a cold winter night.

Alora writes:

> Sherry!  A star trek fan!  :D  You're not the only one, I PROMISE.
> That's my other obsession.......erm, that, and Lord of the Rings.
> It is so nice to know that I am not alone in my obsessions!!

Oh, me, me, me! (waves hand wildly)  I'm a Data fan myself.

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 22:52:57 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:52:57 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20021010084703.011c8950@mail.mcn.org>
Message-ID: <ao50c9+r236@eGroups.com>

> Which part of the state?  I'm from Mendocino coast.  (North)

I am in the Bay Area right now (near SF).  I am not quite sure where 
Mendocino is located??

> 
> Will you post photos of your costume?  Good for you!  I would have 
gone 
> wool for the robe or something that drapes so I'm curious to see how 
your 
> heavy fabric works.

Yes, I will try to post photos! :)  You do have me worried about the 
fabric I chose...it was on sale and seemed appropriate at the time.  I 
think the fabric that thewandmaker used was so thin that I had vowed 
to myself to use a thicker material.  I may have gone overboard! :D  I 
am not making a hat actually, I figure the robe will be enough. ;)  
And I may just chicken out when the premiere DOES roll around.  I 
would much rather dress up as a group instead of what movie patrons 
might deem "the overgrown HP freak". :)





From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 22:58:26 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:58:26 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao4e4g+hu8g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao50mi+d8ff@eGroups.com>

> I found a college grad robe (FINALLY!) at a thrift store, of all 
> places, and I have a white shirt and a Gryffindor tie. My best 
> friend has a v-neck grey sweater for me, too.  I was thinking of 
> finding a grey skirt, like the one Hermione wears, but I have yet to 
> see one, even at the thrift store.  But I will keep looking.  How 
> did you hand embroider the sweater?

Hi!  Basically I am splitting the yarn up into 3-4 threads (like 
embroidery thread) and just doing a long stitch using a size 18 
needle.  I am not doing the greatest job (like a machine or 
professional seamstress would), but my family says it looks pretty 
good so it'll have to do. :)  I don't really sew btw, but to be 
honest, I have started to learn techniques just for my costume! LOL. 
:)  I even bought a knitting book so I could knit my own Gryffindor 
scarf, but I ended up buying on off of ebay instead. ;)





From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 23:58:45 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] About Robes and men
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c270b6$5968e2c0$52a0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <20021010235845.67634.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>

Alora writes:
> 
> > Sherry!  A star trek fan!  :D  You're not the only one, I PROMISE.
> > That's my other obsession.......erm, that, and Lord of the Rings.
> > It is so nice to know that I am not alone in my obsessions!!

Richelle writes:
> Oh, me, me, me! (waves hand wildly)  I'm a Data fan myself.

Okay, I wasn't going to get sucked into the whole
crushes-on-fictional-characters thing, but oh well - Vulcans rule!  I see Data
as more of a brother, but Spock was always my favorite.  And his dad.  Yum. 
Anyway, in the Potterverse... I can't say I'm really *attracted* to any of the
men in HP.  Possibly Lupin or Black, if I had to pick.  But I do find Snape
*very* intriguing - again, if he looks like Rickman, so much the better.

Speaking of Snape, have you seen the deleted version of the first Potions class
on the DVD?  I *really* wish they had left that one intact.  It's much truer to
the book, and it really helps set up the antagonism between Harry and Snape for
the moviegoers who haven't read the book.  Maybe they'll come out with a
director's cut that's about 6 hours long, that might do the book justice.  I
really hate going to a movie where I spend the whole time explaining what's
going on to somebody who hasn't read the book (usually my hubby - yes, the same
man who made me chicken out on the ST uniform - he really is a wonderful man,
but he has *no* imagination).  This was the case when we saw Interview with the
Vampire together - I have no idea if the movie was any good, because I didn't
get the chance to *watch* it.

Sherry


=====
"The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above-average drivers."

      -Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"

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From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 11 02:22:01 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:22:01 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao50c9+r236@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao5ck9+hpn9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at y...> wrote:
> > Which part of the state?  I'm from 
> > Mendocino coast.  (North)
> 
> I am in the Bay Area right now (near SF).  
> I am not quite sure where Mendocino is 
> located??
> 

I'm just going to remind you in California 
(northern *and* southern) as WELL as the 
rest of you that there are many regional 
groups that spin off of HPfGU - and I'm 
sure that many of them are active/returning 
to activity now that the next movie is in 
sight and plans for gatherings are starting 
to be made.  Here's the link to the 
regional page site on the main group: (link 
will need to be reconstructed)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_000999973547/

here's the link to the California group 
specifically (of which I'm the moderator):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-California

I'm sure that most of us who wants to go 
see the movie with a local group of fans 
can find a group close by.

Jen P., living in central California




From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 11 02:26:48 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:26:48 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <ao50c9+r236@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao5ct8+1vrc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "filmgeek20" 
<sky14381 at y...> wrote:
  
> And I may just chicken out when the premiere 
> DOES roll around.  I would much rather dress 
> up as a group instead of what movie patrons 
> might deem "the overgrown HP freak". :)

Oh yeah.  One more thing.  Joining one of the 
regional groups to watch the movie will almost 
guarantee that you'll have a dress-up friend 
or two to be stared at with.  I admit, the 
only one out of our group that did a 
spectacular job of dressing up was Rita/
Catlady, but most of us wore at least an HP 
t-shirt.

And Rita was *really* easy to find. ;)  And 
hearing the littler kids say to their parents 
stuff like, "Look, Mommy!  A REAL witch!!!" 
was very cute.

JenP, again...




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Fri Oct 11 02:36:53 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:36:53 -0400
Subject: Gryffidor sweater?
Message-ID: <004501c270cf$0f433880$7452f50c@attbi.com>

Well, I got the robe from "the wand shop", and the hat too, but there has to
be another source for that kinda stuff..

I have the Scarf, and the Tie, but when I watch the movie, the sweater seems
to be a steel Grey/blue with the Neck area the Scarlet/gold.. Need to find a
source for this item.. I don't know how to sew, or how to put a new neck
line (what every they call that stuff) in.. so.. Any suggestions?



<==>




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 11 02:58:29 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:58:29 -0000
Subject: Gryffindor ties for your costume!/ About Robes and men
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c270b6$5968e2c0$52a0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ao5eol+m7ro@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
 
> Where did you get the patch?  No, don't tell me.  I am nearly 
finished
> painstakingly cross stitching my own. :)  My skirt is straight, 
not pleated
> (shame on me) and I don't have a sweater (it is entirely too hot in
> Louisiana, I'll be lucky not to pass out from heat exhaustion with 
a robe
> on, let alone a sweater!) 

Richelle,

I was a bad girl and used the "buy it now" option and bought the 
patch from a guy who sells all sorts of patches.  He has quite a 
few.  I was watching the other patches escalate to a ridiculous 
price, so I just bought it outright.  I paid *gulp*  23.00 for it.  
BUT, I figured since I saved so much on my thrift outfit, I could 
spring for it.  The others were going for 38-40 dollars!  Yikes.
I know what you mean about the weather.  I'm just outside Dallas, 
and each year we wonder if we are going to gasp in our costumes or 
freeze to death;  there doesn't seem to be a happy medium.  
 
Well, I've got a cool wand, that's what's important. :)

I'm telling you, it's all in the wand, baby!  :D  I saw a picture 
someone doctored of the new poster of the trio - in it, Harry is 
front and center with that Gryffindor sword (oh!  I can't wait!!).  
He/she added the phrase to it "It's not how big the sword is, it's 
how you swing it."  So, swish and flick that wand, girl!  :D


  Now as for Aragorn
> <sigh> that's another story.


Ohhhhhh...isn't that man just delicious?  Help!  One movie at a 
time!  I can only handle so much!

> 
>> Oh, me, me, me! (waves hand wildly)  I'm a Data fan myself.


As for that, all I can say is, "Tea, Earl Grey, HOT."  :D
Yeah, bald is beautiful and sexy! But then, there's always 
Riker...and Chakotay....and oh my goodness my beloved HELMBOY.
We should not have brought up star trek!  :D

Alora





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 11 04:04:39 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 04:04:39 -0000
Subject: Gryffidor sweater?
In-Reply-To: <004501c270cf$0f433880$7452f50c@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <ao5ikn+429b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "zeff8" <zeff8 at a...> wrote:
> Well, I got the robe from "the wand shop", and the hat too, but 
there has to
> be another source for that kinda stuff..
> 
> I have the Scarf, and the Tie, but when I watch the movie, the 
sweater seems
> to be a steel Grey/blue with the Neck area the Scarlet/gold.. Need 
to find a
> source for this item.. I don't know how to sew, or how to put a 
new neck
> line (what every they call that stuff) in.. so.. Any suggestions?


Zeff, mine is just a plain grey sweater.  I can sew a straight line, 
but I can't think of any way to embellish that neckline with 
burgundy and gold without me making a mess of it all!  In other 
words, I am not touching the sweater *LOL*  I wish I could help!
Anyone else have any ideas?  Anyone?  Bueller?

Alora





From heidit at netbox.com  Fri Oct 11 10:11:01 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:11:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: movie get-togethers - ORLANDO
In-Reply-To: <ao5ck9+hpn9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <013901c2710e$808b9f70$3701010a@Frodo>



> there are many regional 
> groups that spin off of HPfGU - and I'm 
> sure that many of them are active/returning 
> to activity now that the next movie is in 
> sight and plans for gatherings are starting 
> to be made.  Here's the link to the 
> regional page site on the main group: (link 
> will need to be reconstructed)
> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_000999973547/

Jen - thanks for bringing this up! On November 15 and 16, at least a
dozen of the Nimbus - 2003 organizers (plus friends and family) will be
descending on Downtown Disney's AMC Theater for Chamber of Secrets - a
number of other listies are expected on one of the two days. People are
coming from across Florida - we had a movie-get-together last year, and
it was wonderful!

More details are here: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/hp4gu-florida -
or email me with questions!


Heidi
Are you going to Nimbus - 2003 ?
http://www.hp2003.org




From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 11 17:07:48 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:07:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffidor sweater?
In-Reply-To: <004501c270cf$0f433880$7452f50c@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <20021011170748.22744.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>

zeff8 <zeff8 at attbi.com> wrote:
> I have the Scarf, and the Tie, but when I watch the movie, the sweater seems
> to be a steel Grey/blue with the Neck area the Scarlet/gold.. Need to find a
> source for this item.. I don't know how to sew, or how to put a new neck
> line (what every they call that stuff) in.. so.. Any suggestions?

It depends on how "authentic" or classy you want your costume to be.  If it's
just for Halloween, you can get away with methods that look right but don't
stand up to close scrutiny, like my ST uniform that has little plain gold
buttons at the neck because I was too poor to buy "real" pips from a sci-fi
store.  An easy way to line the neck with another color would be bias tape (in
fabric stores/departments), which is basically just a long, thin, folded strip
of fabric.  You would insert the edge of the neck between the layers of bias
tape, and then fasten it somehow - either by hand-stitching, or you could use
craft glue, which wouldn't be as durable or flexible but might do the job for
Halloween.  They also sell bias tape in various widths, which would allow you
to layer them to get more than one color around the edge.

The other idea I had, since I'm having trouble locating House emblem patches
(I'm in the middle of moving so I don't have a lot of time), was to make an
iron-on emblem by downloading the image (HP Lexicon has all 4, but the Hogwarts
emblem is not downloadable) and printing it on ink-jet iron-on transfer paper. 
They now have opaque transfer paper for use on dark fabrics.  This paper is
available pretty much anywhere you can buy computer paper, including Wal-Mart
type places.  It's also a lot of fun to make your own custom t-shirts and such,
so it's not a waste to have to buy several sheets of the stuff.  Again, this
isn't as "classy" as an embroidered patch, but it would do the job, and it's
quick, easy, cheap, and requires no talent ;->.

Sherry

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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 22:11:26 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:11:26 -0000
Subject: Hagrid's parents 
In-Reply-To: <ao4usr+g2oi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao7iae+ji6g@eGroups.com>

Melody Wrote:

> I was going to ask the question on the main site, but could not 
figure
> out how to phrase it delicately.  How does a tiny wizard and a full
> grown 20-foot giantess...um, well...enjoy the conception of thier 
son?
>  Maybe that is why they only had one child?  She did leave him
> afterall.  Hagrid blames it on her "nature" but maybe...

I had a thought.  One word:

Engorgio

sick, sick, sick.

I'm going to have to go to confession for that one :)>

-Gail B.




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 22:11:51 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:11:51 -0000
Subject: Hagrid's parents 
In-Reply-To: <ao4usr+g2oi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao7ib7+8n5i@eGroups.com>

Melody Wrote:

> I was going to ask the question on the main site, but could not 
figure
> out how to phrase it delicately.  How does a tiny wizard and a full
> grown 20-foot giantess...um, well...enjoy the conception of thier 
son?
>  Maybe that is why they only had one child?  She did leave him
> afterall.  Hagrid blames it on her "nature" but maybe...

I had a thought.  One word:

Engorgio

sick, sick, sick.

I'm going to have to go to confession for that one :)>

-Gail B.




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 22:11:59 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:11:59 -0000
Subject: Hagrid's parents 
In-Reply-To: <ao4usr+g2oi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao7ibf+qups@eGroups.com>

Melody Wrote:

> I was going to ask the question on the main site, but could not 
figure
> out how to phrase it delicately.  How does a tiny wizard and a full
> grown 20-foot giantess...um, well...enjoy the conception of thier 
son?
>  Maybe that is why they only had one child?  She did leave him
> afterall.  Hagrid blames it on her "nature" but maybe...

I had a thought.  One word:

Engorgio

sick, sick, sick.

I'm going to have to go to confession for that one :)>

-Gail B.




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 22:18:44 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:18:44 -0000
Subject: About Robes from TheWandShop.com
In-Reply-To: <20021010214720.57304.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ao7io4+pv3r@eGroups.com>

Sherry Encouraged Me:


> Okay, newbie stepping in here.  Gail, *please* don't chicken out!  
You'll
> regret it!  I let my hubby shame me into not wearing my uniform to 
my first
> (and so far only) Star Trek convention (yes, I am a geek on many 
levels).  I
> still regret it!  I felt so out of place!  If I get the chance to 
buy or make
> some robes before the premiere (I'm moving the weekend before 
Halloween -
> somebody please shoot me), I will definitely wear them!  If there 
are no freaks
> in your neighborhood, the rest of us will be with you in spirit, I 
promise.


Thank you for the rah rah rah. 

On the bright side...I spent a good portion of the afternoon 
finishing up my pointy hat...not 100% finished...I'd say about 98% 
there...I'm *very* proud of myself, although I did make a couple of 
mistakes...but nothing anybody else is going to notice.  Hey, I 
haven't been at a sewing machine in seven years...I think I'm doing 
pretty good!

-Gail B.




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 22:34:02 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Ann Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:34:02 -0000
Subject: Nimbus 2003
Message-ID: <ao7jkq+ssee@eGroups.com>

Hey, today is NOT my day at the computer...I have no idea how I just 
posted "Hagrid's Parents" three times.  Maybe Mercury is in 
retrograde... 

Anyway...I just wanted to write and say that if any of you are still 
trying to decide if you want to go to this Nimbus 2003 thing in 
Orlando, then let me tell you...I got to participate in their chat 
session this afternoon and they are planning to have some really cool 
things happening.  

I hate to sound like an advertisement, but it sounds so fun, I want 
to share....

For one thing, there's going to be games, like a Quest/Hunt that, if 
I remember correctly, will be an on going thing, throughout the 
entire weekend.  And Quidditch...they said in the pool and one on 
land.  And a Wizarding Night Club.  And something that they are 
calling the Double Feature Double Feature...starting in the early 
evening they will show the movies Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of 
Secrets back to back, and then show them both again...an all 
nighter!...and it's a pyjama party!  

I don't know about you, but it sounds like a load of fun!  And we can 
all wear our robes!  :)>

-Gail B.






From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 12 02:09:51 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 02:09:51 -0000
Subject: Hagrid's parents
In-Reply-To: <ao7iae+ji6g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao809f+f11l@eGroups.com>

I Wrote:
>> I was going to ask the question on the main site, but could not
figure out how to phrase it delicately.  How does a tiny wizard and a
full grown 20-foot giantess...um, well...enjoy the conception of their
 son?<<

So Gail B. suggested:
> I had a thought.  One word:
>
> Engorgio
>
> sick, sick, sick.
>
> I'm going to have to go to confession for that one :) <


So I write, while laughing hysterically:
Guess there are some perks to being a wizard.

I can just imagine what it is like when the 15-year-old boys discover
that spell.  Wait, I don't want to imagine that.  How I would not want
to be Madam Pomfrey.

Melody



 




From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk  Sat Oct 12 10:40:28 2002
From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:40:28 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <ao4s5a+9shg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao8u6s+prak@eGroups.com>


> 
> Nonono you guys... I was just teasing about Ludo... ^^  I mean, I
> might as well have mentioned Karkaroff. Eeps!
> 
> ~ Kara (of Mirkwood ;)

Karkaroff - somehow I don't get the impression that us women would 
be *his* type ..

Pip




From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 11:26:16 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:26:16 -0000
Subject: Gryffidor sweater & patches?
In-Reply-To: <20021011170748.22744.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ao90so+hr1j@eGroups.com>

Hi Sherry,

Where can I download these images?  Are they identical to the movie 
emblems or are they the emblems found before the movie was released?  
I agree about the opaque iron-on paper--I saw it the other day and got 
so excited that I'd be able to make my own dark t-shirts and such!  As 
far as the patch goes, have you seen the ones on e-bay (search for 
"harry potter patch")?  I bought them but I realize that they are not 
as detailed or as large as the drawings/photos you see of the movie 
emblems.  I am a perfectionist so I went through a shop to have the 
patch embroidered.  I can post a picture of it if you guys like and 
possibly have more done if you guys want them (won't be as expensive 
as the ones on ebay!).

> The other idea I had, since I'm having trouble locating House emblem 
patches
> (I'm in the middle of moving so I don't have a lot of time), was to 
make an
> iron-on emblem by downloading the image (HP Lexicon has all 4, but 
the Hogwarts
> emblem is not downloadable) 






From kdavison at shreve.net  Sat Oct 12 15:06:16 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:06:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: About Robes, and Men
References: <ao4r8q+7786@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009c01c27200$eab397c0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Alora, I will have plenty of pics, and I will definitely post one.  I hope
all of you guys do, too, I would love to see!
:-)  Kim

----- Original Message -----
From: "alora" <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com>>
> Woo Hoo!  Another adult dresser-upper!  :D  I hate to tell you this,
> Kim, but I bit the bullet and got an actual Gryffindor patch.  I
> know, I know, it was too much.  But by gathering all my pieces from
> thrift stores, I had only spent about 14 dollars.  So I paid the
> price for a patch! :O  It's iron on, but I am only going to pin it
> carefully on the grad robe I am using.  You should take pictures and
> post them!  I would love to see you and your family!
>
> Alora
> >






From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 15:34:16 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:34:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Gryffidor sweater & patches?
In-Reply-To: <ao90so+hr1j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021012153416.92654.qmail@web21407.mail.yahoo.com>

The images I liked are on the HP Lexicon, specifically
http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/w_pl_hogwarts.html.  It shows all 4 House
emblems and the Hogwarts emblem.  At work I was not able to download the
Hogwarts one, when I right-clicked on it a dialog box came up saying that it
was copyrighted, but I just tried from home and it worked.  I don't know if
doing this would consitute copyright infringement, even for the House emblems
that didn't pop up a message, so I would advise asking before you do it.  You
might also try Warner Bros (http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com), but I could
only find very small emblems.  Their Hogwarts emblem is cool, though.  They
have larger House emblems but they are animated, a screen shot might work.

I would also be interested in the ones you are having made.  Please do post
pictures.  As I have stated, I am moving, so I won't be buying anything through
the mail until November.  Which patch(es) are you having done?

I noticed that on ebay, the Hufflepuff patch is cheaper than the others.  I
found this very funny.

Sherry


--- filmgeek20 <sky14381 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Sherry,
> 
> Where can I download these images?  Are they identical to the movie 
> emblems or are they the emblems found before the movie was released?  
> I agree about the opaque iron-on paper--I saw it the other day and got 
> so excited that I'd be able to make my own dark t-shirts and such!  As 
> far as the patch goes, have you seen the ones on e-bay (search for 
> "harry potter patch")?  I bought them but I realize that they are not 
> as detailed or as large as the drawings/photos you see of the movie 
> emblems.  I am a perfectionist so I went through a shop to have the 
> patch embroidered.  I can post a picture of it if you guys like and 
> possibly have more done if you guys want them (won't be as expensive 
> as the ones on ebay!).
> 
> > The other idea I had, since I'm having trouble locating House emblem 
> patches
> > (I'm in the middle of moving so I don't have a lot of time), was to 
> make an
> > iron-on emblem by downloading the image (HP Lexicon has all 4, but 
> the Hogwarts
> > emblem is not downloadable) 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 15:38:34 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Gryffidor sweater & patches?
In-Reply-To: <20021012153416.92654.qmail@web21407.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021012153834.10357.qmail@web21404.mail.yahoo.com>

Okay, when this came up in my inbox, the links created by the URLs I gave
included the trailing punctuation so they don't work as hot links.  Here they
are in their naked form:

HP Lexicon: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/w_pl_hogwarts.html
Warner Bros: http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com

Enjoy!

Sherry

--- Sherry Garfio <sgarfio at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The images I liked are on the HP Lexicon, specifically...


=====
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      -Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"

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From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 16:21:44 2002
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden faile)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: movie get-togethers - ORLANDO
In-Reply-To: <013901c2710e$808b9f70$3701010a@Frodo>
Message-ID: <20021012162144.90822.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com>


Heidi,
How does one go about starting a group for your own Area? There is a young woman on the Calif. list who is asking about Oregon.
Laila
 heiditandy <heidit at netbox.com> wrote:

> there are many regional 
> groups that spin off of HPfGU - and I'm 
> sure that many of them are active/returning 
> to activity now that the next movie is in 
> sight and plans for gatherings are starting 
> to be made.  Here's the link to the 
> regional page site on the main group: (link 
> will need to be reconstructed)
> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_000999973547/

Jen - thanks for bringing this up! On November 15 and 16, at least a
dozen of the Nimbus - 2003 organizers (plus friends and family) will be
descending on Downtown Disney's AMC Theater for Chamber of Secrets - a
number of other listies are expected on one of the two days. People are
coming from across Florida - we had a movie-get-together last year, and
it was wonderful!

More details are here: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/hp4gu-florida -
or email me with questions!


Heidi
Are you going to Nimbus - 2003 ?
http://www.hp2003.org


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From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 16:32:22 2002
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden faile)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:32:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: movie get-togethers - ORLANDO
In-Reply-To: <013901c2710e$808b9f70$3701010a@Frodo>
Message-ID: <20021012163222.92083.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com>


Heidi,
sorry to bother you, forget that last question, I found the info. I know that you have many things that you are doing.
Thanx,
Laila
 heiditandy <heidit at netbox.com> wrote:

> there are many regional 
> groups that spin off of HPfGU - and I'm 
> sure that many of them are active/returning 
> to activity now that the next movie is in 
> sight and plans for gatherings are starting 
> to be made.  Here's the link to the 
> regional page site on the main group: (link 
> will need to be reconstructed)
> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups
/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_000999973547/

Jen - thanks for bringing this up! On November 15 and 16, at least a
dozen of the Nimbus - 2003 organizers (plus friends and family) will be
descending on Downtown Disney's AMC Theater for Chamber of Secrets - a
number of other listies are expected on one of the two days. People are
coming from across Florida - we had a movie-get-together last year, and
it was wonderful!

More details are here: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/hp4gu-florida -
or email me with questions!


Heidi
Are you going to Nimbus - 2003 ?
http://www.hp2003.org


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From boggles at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 13 06:06:35 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:06:35 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor ties for your costume!/ About
 Robes and men
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c270b6$5968e2c0$52a0cdd1@istu757>
References: <ao405t+egml@eGroups.com>
 <00ba01c270b6$5968e2c0$52a0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <p05010407b9ceb9a423ce@[199.174.15.184]>

At 6:39 PM -0500 10/10/02, Richelle Votaw wrote:
>
>Kara wrote:
>>  Yes! Legolas... *drool*
>
>I just can't see why everyone drools over Legolas.  Now as for Aragorn
><sigh> that's another story.

Ah, "bishonen vs. rugged" strikes again.  Fortunately for me, I 
appreciate both . . .  ;)

As for why there's no "Women of HP" discussion: all the women who are 
of age - Lily, Molly, Petunia, Narcissa, Mrs. Lestrange, Arabella, 
Minerva, Madam Hooch, Professor Sinistra, Sibyll, Professor Vector, 
Professor Sprout, Poppy, Madam Pince, Mrs. Diggory, and Professor 
Grubbly-Plank - suffer from one or more of the following conditions:

1) They're married.

2) They suffer from the same "too old" that Dumbledore does in the 
straight girls' discussion.

3) We know almost nothing about them.

A few of them have other issues (being in Azkaban, rumors of 
lesbianism, etc.) as well.


(My personal opinions on the "Men of HP": Lupin is definitely spouse 
material if he takes his potion reliably; Snape is Hurt-Comfort 
Heaven (and oh, that voice - I had Rickman voicing his text in my 
head long before he was cast); I'd want to strangle Sirius in a week, 
even if he is Dead Sexy; I'd want to mommy Hagrid, so I'd never see 
him as an equal and therefore not relationship material; ditto Crouch 
Jr.; I could see Dumbledore as a long-term mentor-type secondary 
relationship, but that's probably just me; Bill is intriguing, but 
I'm not Tough and outdoorsy enough for Charlie; that part about not 
being Tough Enough goes double for Mad-Eye; Flitwick might be fun, 
and I think intelligence is sexy, even if he is short; Lockwho?; Tom 
Riddle is another candidate for Hurt-Comfort, but he's too damaged to 
do anything but run from by the time he's Voldemort (and I concur 
with those who think that immortal snake-body Voldemort probably 
isn't potent anymore); and why hasn't pre-Quirrellmort Quirrell made 
the list?  He's another good Hurt-Comfort candidate.)


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From boggles at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 13 06:16:16 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:16:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] About Robes and men
In-Reply-To: <20021010235845.67634.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021010235845.67634.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p05010408b9cebe2b3410@[199.174.15.184]>

At 4:58 PM -0700 10/10/02, Sherry Garfio wrote:
>
>Richelle writes:
>>  Oh, me, me, me! (waves hand wildly)  I'm a Data fan myself.
>
>Okay, I wasn't going to get sucked into the whole
>crushes-on-fictional-characters thing, but oh well - Vulcans rule!  I see Data
>as more of a brother, but Spock was always my favorite.  And his dad.  Yum.

Spock was cute, but IMHO Brent Spiner is Dead Sexy.  In or out of the 
Data makeup.  (I loved his cameo in _ID4_.)

>Speaking of Snape, have you seen the deleted version of the first 
>Potions class
>on the DVD?  I *really* wish they had left that one intact.

Ooo, yes!  It's a _much_ better introduction to Snape as a character.

>I
>really hate going to a movie where I spend the whole time explaining what's
>going on to somebody who hasn't read the book

The Spouse hadn't read the book when we saw the movie together 
(confession: I had read the first book, twice, but I hadn't read the 
others yet at the time - the movie was the impetus that made me buy 
and read the other three in hardback instead of waiting for the 
paperback of GoF to be available), and I didn't have to explain very 
much to him.  (He devoured the other books shortly after I did, to 
his credit.)

>This was the case when we saw Interview with the
>Vampire together - I have no idea if the movie was any good, because I didn't
>get the chance to *watch* it.

I just couldn't get past the scene when The Spouse and I 
simultaneously turned to each other and whispered "There's no 
amontillado in here!"  ;)

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From raevynsong at softhome.net  Sun Oct 13 10:05:35 2002
From: raevynsong at softhome.net (raevynsong at softhome.net)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:05:35 -0600
Subject: About Robes and men
In-Reply-To: <p05010408b9cebe2b3410@[199.174.15.184]> 
References: <20021010235845.67634.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
            <p05010408b9cebe2b3410@[199.174.15.184]>
Message-ID: <courier.3DA9456F.00005D8C@softhome.net>

Oooh, time for me to jump in. I've always been a bit of a loner, so 
fictional characters were a comfort for me. I think my first one was Chekov 
from ST-Original, and Data. Later then Gul Dukat from DS9 (pre "Waltz", and 
in my private universe Ziyal never died and Dukat changed sides after that. 
Heh.) I think on Voyager it was first Chakotay, though recently through 
reading FanFic I've developed a soft spot for Harry Kim. 

Well, many know that I'm also known as Mrs. Snape, so that answers the HP 
question. But I also could imagine Remus as a partner, he's wonderful. 

Methos from Highlander. 

So they're either really difficult to deal with, like Methos, Snape and 
Dukat, or sweet and evoking protective feelings, like Harry, Remus and Data. 
Cpt. Janeway's nice, too, though she's somewhat outside the roster. Must be 
the command mask and the wish to lift some of the emotional weight she has 
to carry. 

Yes, I know, it's a rather long list, but I always had an overactive 
imagination that I had to keep busy. If I'd written down all the stories 
that played out in my head I'd probably have a disfunctional wrist by now. 

Dinah



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 13 14:03:10 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:03:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Belated birthday wishes!
Message-ID: <20021013140310.78948.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com>

*crawls in bearing many gifts and goodies, begging for
forgiveness*

I've been a very bad Birthday Elf and allowed RL to
distract me from sending birthday wishes. I offer my
humble apologies for the two I missed and ask you all
to join me in offering belated birthday greetings.

The two missed birthday honourees are Jim
(jferer at yahoo.com) and Grey Wolf
(greywolf1 at jazzfree.com). Belated birthday owls can be
sent directly to their email addresses above or to
this list.

I hope you both had wonderful, fun-filled, magical
days.

Happy Birthday, Jim!
Happy Birthday, Grey Wolf!

Sheryll the forgetful Birthday Elf

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From witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 13 18:11:41 2002
From: witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com (Wanda the *B*Witch)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:11:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Belated birthday wishes!
In-Reply-To: <20021013140310.78948.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021013181141.9094.qmail@web13709.mail.yahoo.com>


 




Happy Birthday, Jim!
Happy Birthday, Grey Wolf!

Hope you both had a magically good time on your Special Day! Nice to know you have a Birthday Buddy! Well, you two Buddies can still celebrate, Thank you Sheryll, because we didn't know! Now, here are more Birhtday wishes and hope you got yours! Lots of HP goodies!

Wanda the *B*Witch of Revere,Massachusetts and Her Very Merry Band of Muggles 100%!


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From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 13 19:17:34 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:17:34 -0000
Subject: Men of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <ao8u6s+prak@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aocgse+grbf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "bluesqueak" <pipdowns at e...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Nonono you guys... I was just teasing about Ludo... ^^  I mean, I
> > might as well have mentioned Karkaroff. Eeps!
> > 
> > ~ Kara (of Mirkwood ;)
> 
> Karkaroff - somehow I don't get the impression that us women would 
> be *his* type ..
> 
> Pip

Hmm... that's funny.  I distinctly recall getting that impression
about *Ludo*, not Karkaroff...




From boggles at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 14 05:12:39 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:12:39 -0500
Subject: Questionable Literature by Coincidence? . . .
Message-ID: <p05010400b9cffa29e9d0@[199.174.15.184]>

So, this evening the Spouse and I arrived early to a meeting with a 
few friends at a local Chinese buffet place, which happens to be 
located in a strip-type shopping center.  Since said friends run on 
what we call "Musician Standard Time," there was absolutely no point 
in showing up early, so to kill time we stepped into the 
Everything's-A-Dollar store next door.

Guess what we found there?

Go on.  Guess.



(*taps foot, glances at watch, hums the _Jeopardy_ theme*)



Time's Up!

The Nancy Stouffer books.

Yup, they're such poor sellers that they're being sold in dollar 
stores with the no-name coloring books.

Poetic justice, ne?

Me being curious, and finding this absolutely hysterical (OK, I was 
standing in the isle screaming; I admit it), I picked up two: the 
famous _The Legend of Rah and the Muggles_ and _Larry and Lilly 
Potter: More Than Just Friends_.  They didn't have any copies of 
_Larry Potter and His Best Friend Lilly_, more's the pity.  There 
appear to be four books in what Stouffer calls the "Larry Potter 
Storybooks," of which three were there; I only picked up the one, not 
feeling like spending more than two dollars.

The letters (TM) are used all over both covers liberally.  These were 
published in 2001, but their purported dates of previous publication 
are displayed prominently inside the front covers.  The inside blurb 
for _Rah_ refers to "the real Muggles" more than once.  All very 
defensive, IMHO.

The books are very cheaply printed.  The binding on _Rah_ is 
terrible, very flimsy, and has glue strands hanging off of it.  The 
interior pages have very large margins, and very large type, so that 
253 paqes contain what in a normal book might be 75 pages worth of 
text.  _Larry and Lilly_ isn't any better, but it's meant for very 
young children (more on that next paragraph), and isn't significantly 
worse than most hard-bound books for small children with only 20 
pages.  The printing itself is adequate - no blurring or smearing, 
which I have seen in very cheap printings.  I've seen vanity 
printings that were better, though.

I can't see, even assuming that she is perfectly honest in her 
statements about the "Larry & Lilly" books, how she could imagine any 
confusion between them and our beloved canon.  These books are meant 
for _very_ small children.  The format is one or two sentences of 
text on the left-hand page, with an illustration on the right (one of 
which is repeated twice in the book, for reasons which must remain a 
mystery).  Moreover, her Larry Potter resembles early versions of 
Andy from _Toy Story_ more than he does JKR's Harry, or Grandpre's 
depiction of him.  (He certainly doesn't look like Radcliffe, 
either.)  I'm guessing from the illustrations that L&L are meant to 
be about eight, but the intended audience is  clearly meant to be 
children just learning to read.

I am unsure what the intended reading level for _Rah_ is.  Stouffer 
uses an awful lot of long and complex words, but her sentence 
structure is artificially simple.  (I might haul out my old "Reading 
in the Secondary Classroom" textbook and actually do a grade level 
calculation on it sometime if I have the time.)  I haven't finished 
reading the book, but the moral - "War is Bad" - is hammered home 
about once a chapter.  So far, she's very good at character 
_description_, but less so at character _development_.

There are interior illustrations, also done by Stouffer, several 
depicting the Muggles themselves.  I scanned and uploaded one to the 
Files area (Mods, please hit me with an "Expelliarmus!" if that was a 
no-no - I'll gladly remove it) so everyone can see what Stouffer's 
Muggles look like.  Suffice it to say that (a) she's not consistent 
about what size they are, and (b) Petunia, Dudley, and Vernon would 
have a hard time indeed fitting in.

If it is okay to post the files, at least temporarily, I also scanned 
the front covers of both books and one illustration of Larry & Lilly 
- let me know if anyone wants to see them.  (I think the front cover 
of _Rah_ was in the coverage of the case, but the overuse of (TM) is 
amusing enough to see again.  I haven't seen an abuse of the 
trademark this bad since TSR tried to trademark the word "Nazi." 
(Oops, did I just Godwin's Law my own thread?))

The things you find looking for cheap candles . . .

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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 09:18:04 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Questionable Literature just a Coincidence?
Message-ID: <20021014091804.94610.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com>


Jennifer tells about her "bargain" discovery...<snicker, snicker>

<<<The Nancy Stouffer books.

Yup, they're such poor sellers that they're being sold in dollar 
stores with the no-name coloring books.

Poetic justice, ne?

Me being curious, and finding this absolutely hysterical (OK, I was 
standing in the isle screaming; I admit it), I picked up two: the 
famous _The Legend of Rah and the Muggles_ and _Larry and Lilly 
Potter: More Than Just Friends_.  They didn't have any copies of 
_Larry Potter and His Best Friend Lilly_, more's the pity.  There 
appear to be four books in what Stouffer calls the "Larry Potter 
Storybooks," of which three were there; I only picked up the one, not 
feeling like spending more than two dollars.

The letters (TM) are used all over both covers liberally.  These were 
published in 2001, but their purported dates of previous publication 
are displayed prominently inside the front covers.  The inside blurb 
for _Rah_ refers to "the real Muggles" more than once.  All very 
defensive, IMHO.>>>

Me:

I found "Larry Potter and his Friend Lilly" and "Larry Potter and Lilly- More Than Just Friends" (doesn't that title just give you a horrible mental image???) at MY local ALL-A-DOLLAR store as well!!!  I agree with everything you said in your post, except I didn't even spend the $2 for them.  It was bad enough looking at them, thankyouverymuch!  

I didn't notice the part about the overly blatant copywrite symbols all over the cover.  I did, however, notice the way the author chose to sign her name:

N.K. STOUFFER!   I mean, come on!  

Anyway, thanks for the laugh

~Lilac, who had more important things to spend $2 on, such as Harry Potter glasses and a mini-stuffed Hedwig.  




 

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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 12:27:13 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:27:13 -0000
Subject: Questionable Literature by Coincidence? . . .
In-Reply-To: <p05010400b9cffa29e9d0@[199.174.15.184]>
Message-ID: <aoed71+4jc8@eGroups.com>

Jennifer Boggess Ramon reviewed:

> _Larry and Lilly Potter: More Than Just Friends_.  

HA!  I knew it!  All you scoffers at my L/L ship, time to pay up.

I'm 99% sure that uploading her illustrations is a copyright 
violation (not that Stouffer knows what one is), so I'm sorry, I'm 
taking them down pending an okay from the Mods Who Understand 
Copyright Law.  Besides, Jennifer, are you trying to cause mass 
nausea around here?  Those things give me the willies.

Amy Z







From anise_leinen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 15:17:30 2002
From: anise_leinen at yahoo.com (Catherine Danielson)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:17:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Literature at the Dollar Store
In-Reply-To: <1034583507.274.85200.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021014151730.24914.qmail@web21404.mail.yahoo.com>


Jennifer,
I haven't actually seen these books myself,  though I
certainly have heard about them. Do you only find them
in certain areas? Where are you? (If it's Nashville--
and the Musician's Standard Time thing is a pretty
common saying round these here parts-- I will DIE
laughing. Long story as to why.)
Anise

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From boggles at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 14 17:00:09 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:00:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Questionable Literature by Coincidence? . .
 .
In-Reply-To: <aoed71+4jc8@eGroups.com>
References: <aoed71+4jc8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <p05010400b9d0a839ef4a@[199.174.14.172]>

At 12:27 PM +0000 10/14/02, Amy Z wrote:
>
>I'm 99% sure that uploading her illustrations is a copyright
>violation (not that Stouffer knows what one is), so I'm sorry, I'm
>taking them down pending an okay from the Mods Who Understand
>Copyright Law.

Darn.  I was hoping posting a single image in conjunction with a 
review was covered under Fair Use.  Ah, well.  My bad.  :(

>Besides, Jennifer, are you trying to cause mass
>nausea around here?  Those things give me the willies.

Pretty creepy, ne?

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From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Mon Oct 14 17:06:25 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:06:25 -0500
Subject: I may get to do this after all! 
Message-ID: <002201c273a4$08c2f360$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

OH I am SOOOO excited!  My mom just got back from Wal-Mart.  With a
whole slew of ROBE patterns!  She bought three of the HP robe, wand, and
glasses sets for me and my two sisters, but the robes are way too small
for any of us.  
 
My 12 year old sister is dressing up as Hermione for Halloween, and for
the premier.  Maybe after Halloween I can convince my mom to make me a
robe for the premier!  We lucked out as mom already has the fabric for
the Gryffindor tie!  I'd go for Halloween, but I don't have anywhere to
go with it. 
 
OK, now how to convince my mom that people older than 21 love Harry
Potter as much, if not more than I do?  I so want to dress up for the
premier.
 
Jennifer


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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 17:34:16 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:34:16 -0000
Subject: I may get to do this after all!
In-Reply-To: <002201c273a4$08c2f360$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aoev6o+leke@eGroups.com>

Jennifer Wilson wrote:

> OK, now how to convince my mom that people older than 21 love Harry
> Potter as much, if not more than I do?  I so want to dress up for 
the
> premier.

Show her the membership list for this group!

Amy Z
who has her birth certificate around here somewhere




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Mon Oct 14 18:24:41 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:24:41 -0500
Subject: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
Message-ID: <004501c273ae$f7888be0$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

I just confirmed things with mom, and I will most likely be wearing a
robe to the premier!  I'm so excited.  I am just going as a Hogwarts
Student.  My hair is too blond to be Hermione, and I'm not pretty enough
for Lavendar or Parvati, but on Nov. 15th I'll be a Hogwarts Student for
a night :)
 
Sorry if this is too off topic for everyone, I am just *REALLY* excited!
 
Jennifer


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From boggles at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 14 20:01:09 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:01:09 -0500
Subject: Mr. Creevey's Profession
Message-ID: <p05010405b9d0d191a615@[199.174.14.87]>

I was musing on the "mixed time" feel of the HP books - some 
descriptions of the Muggle world seem to be fifties-ish or 
sixties-ish, while other bits (computers and Playstations) are modern 
times, or at least nineties-ish, and the Wizarding world is a muddle 
of pseudo-medieval, pseudo-Elizibethan, and pseudo-Victorian 
trappings - when something occurred to me.

Colin Creevey states in CoS that his father is a milkman.  I had 
semi-unconsciously sorted this as one of the fifties-ish details 
about the story.  I am now wondering if it is, instead, a cultural 
detail.  Would one of the British listies be so kind as to tell me 
whether there are still milkmen in Britain (or, more to the point, if 
there were circa 1992)?

Thanks,

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From kcawte at kcawte.freeserve.co.uk  Mon Oct 14 20:22:26 2002
From: kcawte at kcawte.freeserve.co.uk (Kathryn)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:22:26 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Mr. Creevey's Profession
References: <p05010405b9d0d191a615@[199.174.14.87]>
Message-ID: <3DAB2782.000001.91889@monica>


There are indeed still milkmen in this country. AFAIK they cover most of the
country (if you actually want milk delivered) with the exception of people
living in the middle of nowhere.
Alas they no longer use a horse and cart as my mothers uncle used to, now
they use annoying electric milk floats, well annoying if you've ever been
stuck behind one.
Seek out some old Open All Hours episodes, they haven't changed much since
(if at all). 

K 
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From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 14 October 2002 21:01:03
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Mr. Creevey's Profession

I was musing on the "mixed time" feel of the HP books - some 
descriptions of the Muggle world seem to be fifties-ish or 
sixties-ish, while other bits (computers and Playstations) are modern 
times, or at least nineties-ish, and the Wizarding world is a muddle 
of pseudo-medieval, pseudo-Elizibethan, and pseudo-Victorian 
trappings - when something occurred to me.

Colin Creevey states in CoS that his father is a milkman. I had 
semi-unconsciously sorted this as one of the fifties-ish details 
about the story. I am now wondering if it is, instead, a cultural 
detail. Would one of the British listies be so kind as to tell me 
whether there are still milkmen in Britain (or, more to the point, if 
there were circa 1992)?

Thanks,



From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 21:12:19 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:12:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Mr. Creevey's Profession
In-Reply-To: <p05010405b9d0d191a615@[199.174.14.87]>
Message-ID: <20021014211219.81212.qmail@web21404.mail.yahoo.com>

There are milkmen today in the US.  I had milk/dairy products delivered to my
house in Denver until I moved away 17 months ago.  The company was Royal Crest
Dairy, which I think is a fairly large chain.  They are not "certified
organic", but their suppliers are required not to use hormones and to keep milk
from cows being treated with antibiotics separate (i.e. sell it to other
retailers).  Their milk is also processed and delivered much faster than what
you buy at the grocery, and it stays fresh for at least 2 weeks after delivery.
 I'm moving back to Denver next week, and will probably sign up with them
again.

Sherry

--- Jennifer Boggess Ramon <boggles at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I was musing on the "mixed time" feel of the HP books - some 
> descriptions of the Muggle world seem to be fifties-ish or 
> sixties-ish, while other bits (computers and Playstations) are modern 
> times, or at least nineties-ish, and the Wizarding world is a muddle 
> of pseudo-medieval, pseudo-Elizibethan, and pseudo-Victorian 
> trappings - when something occurred to me.
> 
> Colin Creevey states in CoS that his father is a milkman.  I had 
> semi-unconsciously sorted this as one of the fifties-ish details 
> about the story.  I am now wondering if it is, instead, a cultural 
> detail.  Would one of the British listies be so kind as to tell me 
> whether there are still milkmen in Britain (or, more to the point, if 
> there were circa 1992)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
>   - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon			boggles at earthlink.net
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> 


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From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 21:16:19 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Mr. Creevey's Profession
In-Reply-To: <3DAB2782.000001.91889@monica>
Message-ID: <20021014211619.80972.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

Oh yeah, this reminds me - in Denver, Royal Crest Dairy recently converted
their entire fleet to propane.  They're kind of noisy if you happen to wake up
at 4:00 AM when they are usually delivering, but they run as fast as gasoline
cars.

Sherry


--- Kathryn <kcawte at kcawte.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> There are indeed still milkmen in this country. AFAIK they cover most of the
> country (if you actually want milk delivered) with the exception of people
> living in the middle of nowhere.
> Alas they no longer use a horse and cart as my mothers uncle used to, now
> they use annoying electric milk floats, well annoying if you've ever been
> stuck behind one.
> Seek out some old Open All Hours episodes, they haven't changed much since
> (if at all). 
> 
> K 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Date: 14 October 2002 21:01:03
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Mr. Creevey's Profession
> 
> I was musing on the "mixed time" feel of the HP books - some 
> descriptions of the Muggle world seem to be fifties-ish or 
> sixties-ish, while other bits (computers and Playstations) are modern 
> times, or at least nineties-ish, and the Wizarding world is a muddle 
> of pseudo-medieval, pseudo-Elizibethan, and pseudo-Victorian 
> trappings - when something occurred to me.
> 
> Colin Creevey states in CoS that his father is a milkman. I had 
> semi-unconsciously sorted this as one of the fifties-ish details 
> about the story. I am now wondering if it is, instead, a cultural 
> detail. Would one of the British listies be so kind as to tell me 
> whether there are still milkmen in Britain (or, more to the point, if 
> there were circa 1992)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 


=====
"The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above-average drivers."

      -Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"

__________________________________________________
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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 21:16:37 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:16:37 -0000
Subject: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
In-Reply-To: <004501c273ae$f7888be0$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aofc7l+2o26@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer R. Wilson" <jenw118 at H...> 
wrote:
> I just confirmed things with mom, and I will most likely be 
wearing a
> robe to the premier!  I'm so excited.  I am just going as a 
Hogwarts
> Student.  My hair is too blond to be Hermione, and I'm not pretty 
enough
> for Lavendar or Parvati, but on Nov. 15th I'll be a Hogwarts 
Student for
> a night :)
>  
> Sorry if this is too off topic for everyone, I am just *REALLY* 
excited!
>  
> Jennifer


wah HOO!  Another one!! I've got my Hogwarts student costume almost 
ready myself.....and I can't wait!!!  :D  Don't worry, Jennifer, I 
am 35!  *LOL*   I say we all take pics of ourselves for Halloween 
and post them.  Who's with me?!

Alora, just a big kid




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Mon Oct 14 21:25:33 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:25:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
In-Reply-To: <aofc7l+2o26@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007401c273c8$3cab06d0$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 Alora said:  


wah HOO!  Another one!! I've got my Hogwarts student costume almost 
ready myself.....and I can't wait!!!  :D  Don't worry, Jennifer, I 
am 35!  *LOL*   I say we all take pics of ourselves for Halloween 
and post them.  Who's with me?!

Alora, just a big kid
 
My response:
 
Well, that sounds like a brilliant idea.  I've a rather moody digital
camera, so if I can coax it to work and take a halfway decent picture, I
will be glad to take one for all to view.  Mom is sewing the robe, if
all goes well, so it will be a bit unique.  We are studying the movie
robes to try and make one most simolar to it. 
 
I would be happy to set up a site to store the pics if we can't do so on
here...
 
If my mother only knew the variation of the ages in HP fans (I am 21 and
she has multiple calves about my age participating in the fandom-maybe
has eased a *bit*) 
 
Big kid as well,
 
Jennifer 


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From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk  Mon Oct 14 21:47:06 2002
From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:47:06 -0000
Subject: Mr. Creevey's Profession
In-Reply-To: <p05010405b9d0d191a615@[199.174.14.87]>
Message-ID: <aofe0q+ms5u@eGroups.com>

<Snip>

Well, Mr Creevey doesn't deliver to your doorstep where I live - but 
then, that's inner city London, where he'd be mugged if he was known 
to carry cash, and anything left on your doorstep would get nicked...

But yes, Mr Creevey's do still exist in the UK; even in London, 
though here they mostly deliver to restaurants, offices and other 
account customers. 

Mr Creevey will frequently find himself called something 
like 'Customer Delivery Agent', but everyone, except the managers of 
the Dairy, will still refer to him as a 'milkman'.

Pip
> 
> Colin Creevey states in CoS that his father is a milkman.  I had 
> semi-unconsciously sorted this as one of the fifties-ish details 
> about the story.  I am now wondering if it is, instead, a cultural 
> detail.  Would one of the British listies be so kind as to tell me 
> whether there are still milkmen in Britain (or, more to the point, 
if 
> there were circa 1992)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
>   - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon			boggles at e...
> === Personal Growth Geek Code v0.4 ===
> GG++ !T A-- M++s--- g+ B- C- P++++ a- b- h+ her++ E+ N n++ i f+
> c++ S%++++&&># D R++ xc++ xm+ xi+ yd++ ys++(-) rt+ ro+ rp++++ rjk<+
> ow+++ ofn+ oft++ op++ esk-- ey+ ek+++ pl++ pf++ pe++ U!




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 14 23:01:24 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:01:24 -0000
Subject: Salinger's Harry
Message-ID: <aofic4+tsg2@eGroups.com>

In an attempt to read an author besides JKR, I know heaven forbid, I
found an interesting quote.

>From JD Salinger's set of short stories names Nine Stories:
Second story entitled Uncle Wiggily in Connecticut (pg 26)

The four year old Ramona was asked by her mom Eloise what her
imaginary friend looked like...

E>"Stand up, please...Tell Mary Jane how Jimmy looks."
	R>"He has green eyes and black hair."
E>"What else?"
	R>"No mommy and no daddy."
E>"What else?"
	R>"No freckles."
E>"What else?"
	R>"A sword."

Maybe I have spent too many of my days in Potterland, but our little
"imaginary friend" fits that description quite well.


(as a side note, I highly recommend one of Salinger's other sets of
short stores named Franny and Zooey.  Excellent pair of two short
stories.)

Melody








From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com  Mon Oct 14 23:54:32 2002
From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:54:32 -0000
Subject: Dress Up Pics (was "An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!")
In-Reply-To: <007401c273c8$3cab06d0$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aoflfo+79mg@eGroups.com>

Jennifer wrote:
> Well, that sounds like a brilliant idea.  I've a rather moody 
digital camera, so if I can coax it to work and take a halfway decent 
picture, I will be glad to take one for all to view.  
> <snip>
> I would be happy to set up a site to store the pics if we can't do 
so on here... >>>>>>>>>>


Oh yes, Jennifer, and everyone, please do upload your pics here!  Our 
Photos section has *lots* of room.  I, for one, am definitely looking 
forward to seeing all your great costumes.  :-)


--Kelley, OTC Mod





From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 00:00:33 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HowStuffWorks survey
In-Reply-To: <aoflfo+79mg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021015000033.3597.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com>

I usually check this website frequently, but today I didn't check it until just
now.  HowStuffWorks has a daily survey about some random topic, and their
survey today is "Have you read the Harry Potter books?"  Go check it out.  When
I looked, slightly more than half the respondents had answered either "No" or
"No, but I saw the movie."  The daily survey is on the right-hand margin near
the bottom of their main page.

http://www.howstuffworks.com

Sherry


=====
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      -Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"

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From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 00:18:59 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:18:59 -0000
Subject: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
In-Reply-To: <007401c273c8$3cab06d0$84c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aofmtj+j3lu@eGroups.com>

I'm excited too but I really need other ppl to be at the movie 
premiere dressed up WITH ME! :)  Almost everyone on the California 
list is from the Southern part of CA and I'm located around the San 
Francisco bay area.  I'm 21 going on 22 and I will either
be going as a Gryffindor or Ravenclaw (still deciding!) :)  I've got 
everything right down to the knee socks & mary janes! :)  I would
throw a Harry Potter party on Halloween if there were enough HP
freaks around here to come.

-Amy

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer R. Wilson" <jenw118 at H...> 
wrote:
>  Alora said:  
> 
> 
> wah HOO!  Another one!! I've got my Hogwarts student costume almost 
> ready myself.....and I can't wait!!!  :D  Don't worry, Jennifer, I 
> am 35!  *LOL*   I say we all take pics of ourselves for Halloween 
> and post them.  Who's with me?!
> 
> Alora, just a big kid
>  
> My response:
>  
> Well, that sounds like a brilliant idea.  I've a rather moody 
digital
> camera, so if I can coax it to work and take a halfway decent 
picture, I
> will be glad to take one for all to view.  Mom is sewing the robe, 
if
> all goes well, so it will be a bit unique.  We are studying the 
movie
> robes to try and make one most simolar to it. 
>  
> I would be happy to set up a site to store the pics if we can't do 
so on
> here...
>  
> If my mother only knew the variation of the ages in HP fans (I am 21 
and
> she has multiple calves about my age participating in the 
fandom-maybe
> has eased a *bit*) 
>  
> Big kid as well,
>  
> Jennifer 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 00:34:04 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:34:04 -0000
Subject: question about movie robes
Message-ID: <aofnps+5lje@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know if the school robes worn in the movie actually had 
hoods?  Some of the official children's costume robes (from Warner 
Bros) don't have hoods on the back--just large collars.  Does anybody 
know what I'm talking about?  I don't actually remember seeing anyone 
from the movie with a hood on the back of their robes.  Please let me 
know your thoughts all! :)

Thanks,
Amy




From saitaina at wizzards.net  Tue Oct 15 00:40:10 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:40:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about movie robes
References: <aofnps+5lje@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c273e3$6c02f9e0$284e28d1@oemcomputer>

The hoods were on the cloaks.  Robes have high collars to protect the neck from cold (not that high but it works) and cloaks worn over with the hoods for rain.  If you watch the scene where Draco's wearing his cloak (McGonagal's Office) you can see part of the hood but not much.

Saitaina
****
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From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 00:39:14 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:39:14 -0000
Subject: Wizard, Witch and Warlock
Message-ID: <aofo3i+8mv2@eGroups.com>

Um, ok.
I am really excited for all of you that are dressing up for the 
premiere! (I'm jealous, actually; considering how I can pull it off 
cheaply considering I just spent about $90 bucks for Halloween 
costumes and various gadgetry for my kids), but an interesting point 
of discussion happened in the car on the way to get the Halloween 
stuff:  
What is the difference between a Witch, a Wizard and a Warlock?
We initially thought that a Witch was just a female Wizard, but in re-
reading CoS (we've been studying up for the show!), Mr. Weasly comes 
back into the house just after Harry arrives at the Burrow and says 
something about an "old Warlock" in his office. (sorry, I'm in the 
middle of slice and bake cookies and don't have time to fetch the 
hard copy of CoS to quote it exactly).
Anybody have any insight to this important question? :-}
Thanks in advance and *please*, I want to see pictures of all of you 
dressed up in those wonderful costumes!!!

Anna . . . 




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Tue Oct 15 00:39:04 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:39:04 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about movie robes
In-Reply-To: <aofnps+5lje@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c273e3$44de6070$c0c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 

Amy asks:  

Does anyone know if the school robes worn in the movie actually had 
hoods?  Some of the official children's costume robes (from Warner 
Bros) don't have hoods on the back--just large collars.  Does anybody 
know what I'm talking about?  I don't actually remember seeing anyone 
from the movie with a hood on the back of their robes.  Please let me 
know your thoughts all! :)

Thanks,
Amy

 My response: 
 
I don't believe the robes have hoods.  I can e-mail you some pictures
that I have to study the robes on.  Let me know.  I don't think they do
have hoods, not sure why WB added them.
 
Jennifer



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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct 15 01:15:12 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:15:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
References: <aofc7l+2o26@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01f801c273e8$50744800$66a0cdd1@istu757>

> wah HOO!  Another one!! I've got my Hogwarts student costume almost
> ready myself.....and I can't wait!!!  :D  Don't worry, Jennifer, I
> am 35!  *LOL*   I say we all take pics of ourselves for Halloween
> and post them.  Who's with me?!
>
> Alora, just a big kid

Me, me, me!  As long as everyone promises not to laugh if I don't have a
Gryffindor tie!  I won't have a sweater either (too hot anyway) and my skirt
is straight, not pleated (sob!).  I am almost (I know, I keep saying that)
finished the Gryffindor crest.  It is a slightly modified crest, I used the
cross stitch pattern that is like the one on the Lexicon, but I didn't like
the patterns in the background, so I made the entire background red (dark
red).  Individuality, you know. :)

Richelle





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 03:46:37 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:46:37 -0000
Subject: An Update-I get to dress up for the premier!
In-Reply-To: <01f801c273e8$50744800$66a0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <aog32t+7j8d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> Me, me, me!  As long as everyone promises not to laugh if I don't 
have a
> Gryffindor tie!  I won't have a sweater either (too hot anyway) 
and my skirt
> is straight, not pleated (sob!).  I am almost (I know, I keep 
saying that)
> finished the Gryffindor crest.  It is a slightly modified crest, I 
used the
> cross stitch pattern that is like the one on the Lexicon, but I 
didn't like
> the patterns in the background, so I made the entire background 
red (dark
> red).  Individuality, you know. :)
> 
> Richelle

It's going to be great, Richelle!!!  All the children will know who 
you are just by the outfit, they won't care about picky details the 
way we do! I'm fretting that the hot grey sweater doesn't match 
exactly, and that my shoes are not mary janes, they are brown 
loafers!  *LOL*  BTW, are you going to the Harry Potter Symposium?  
I'm thinking about it......

Alora




From ferretlovr at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 09:06:03 2002
From: ferretlovr at yahoo.com (Jessica)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:06:03 -0000
Subject: question about movie robes
Message-ID: <aoglpr+t5tk@eGroups.com>


>Does anyone know if the school robes worn in the movie actually had 
>hoods?  Some of the official children's costume robes (from Warner 
>Bros) don't have hoods on the back--just large collars.  Does 
>anybody 
>know what I'm talking about?  I don't actually remember seeing 
>anyone 
>from the movie with a hood on the back of their robes.  Please let 
>me 
>know your thoughts all! :)

>Thanks,
>Amy

Amy, the school robes in the movie DO have hoods.  You can see 
Harry's hanging down around his head in the Mountain troll scene when 
he's being held upside down by the ankle.  There are also a few 
scenes where you can see them on the students' backs (can't remember 
details for this one, haven't watched the movie in about a month.)

-Jessica
moonlight69










From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 11:12:13 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:12:13 -0000
Subject: question about movie robes
In-Reply-To: <aoglpr+t5tk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aogt6d+kttu@eGroups.com>

Re-watched the movie--hood IS evident!  Thank you all! :)

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jessica" <ferretlovr at y...> wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone know if the school robes worn in the movie actually had 
> >hoods?  Some of the official children's costume robes (from Warner 
> >Bros) don't have hoods on the back--just large collars.  Does 
> >anybody 
> >know what I'm talking about?  I don't actually remember seeing 
> >anyone 
> >from the movie with a hood on the back of their robes.  Please let 
> >me 
> >know your thoughts all! :)
> 
> >Thanks,
> >Amy
> 
> Amy, the school robes in the movie DO have hoods.  You can see 
> Harry's hanging down around his head in the Mountain troll scene 
when 
> he's being held upside down by the ankle.  There are also a few 
> scenes where you can see them on the students' backs (can't remember 
> details for this one, haven't watched the movie in about a month.)
> 
> -Jessica
> moonlight69




From ken.kuller at veritas.com  Tue Oct 15 13:33:01 2002
From: ken.kuller at veritas.com (Kenneth M. Kuller)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:33:01 -0000
Subject: HowStuffWorks survey
In-Reply-To: <20021015000033.3597.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aoh5ed+chrb@eGroups.com>

I missed the survey, but followed the "Who's Harry Potter" link in 
the survey results.  It led to Scholastic's Harry Potter web site 
(http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/).

Be sure to check out the Wizard Challenge quiz there.
I thought I knew the books inside and out, but my score was only 12.




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 13:52:41 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:52:41 -0000
Subject: other trailer
Message-ID: <aoh6j9+amfb@eGroups.com>

Hey all,

have you seen the other trailer over at the Leaky Cauldron?  It's 
fantastic!!  *GROAN*  Is is November yet?!  

Alora




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Tue Oct 15 14:52:33 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:52:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] other trailer
In-Reply-To: <aoh6j9+amfb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001201c2745a$7f713740$b9c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

   Thanks for telling us, am going to check it oit now :)  Hopefully it
is not streaming video though, this crawl-y connection can't take it.
 
Thanks for letting us know, so far all I've seen are the pics of the
latest trailer.
 
Jennifer


Hey all,

have you seen the other trailer over at the Leaky Cauldron?  It's 
fantastic!!  *GROAN*  Is is November yet?!  

Alora



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From john at queerasjohn.com  Tue Oct 15 14:57:07 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:57:07 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] other trailer
In-Reply-To: <aoh6j9+amfb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B9D1EB53.3984%john@queerasjohn.com>

alora said:

> have you seen the other trailer over at the Leaky Cauldron?  It's
> fantastic!!  *GROAN*  Is is November yet?!

Those of you who saw the trailer after A Family Affair (or whatever that
gods-awful Tim Curry thing was) will notice that there's some overlap,
although it's certainly longer. It's certainly worth the download,
especially if you get the QuickTime Super version, which is worth all of its
15.2MB. :D

--John

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From alexpie at aol.com  Tue Oct 15 15:26:22 2002
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:26:22 EDT
Subject: DressUp Pics
Message-ID: <c6.138d34d2.2add8d9e@aol.com>

I'm still not sure who I'm going to be.  I'm rather old to be a student, but 
I'd hate to waste the lightning scar on my forehead (yes, I really do have 
one; I got it in a car crash *g*).  Whatever I do figure out, I'm really 
writing to add my voice to the "Yes, let's post our pictures" contingent.
Cheers--
Ba


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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 17:37:04 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:37:04 -0000
Subject: HP toys
Message-ID: <aohjo0+ti90@eGroups.com>

I have what may be a silly question, but do any of you buy/collect 
the Harry Potter dolls?  I have three boys and one daughter and they 
have some of the action figures, but my daughter has the Wizard 
Sweets Harry and Hermione.  Here's my question:  have any of you 
seen a Wizard Sweets Ron?  I never have!  Am I just dreaming or did 
they not make one at all?  I bought my daughter the Weasley car for 
Christmas (it's going to be hard not to give it to her after the 
movie) and Harry and Hermione fit, I just wondered where I could 
find a Ron.  Oh, and one more question.  I really like the Hogwarts 
Heroes Hermione doll.  Anyone know if there is a Harry or Ron in 
those, also?  And, if so, WHERE can I find them?  Thank you so much!!

Alora




From anise_leinen at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 18:38:38 2002
From: anise_leinen at yahoo.com (Catherine Danielson)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <1034670162.1460.45357.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021015183838.4673.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>


Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
together for something like that! I think I've found
exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands!
Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....

Anise, from Nashville

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 20:24:46 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:24:46 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <20021015183838.4673.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aohtie+q7ol@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catherine Danielson <anise_leinen at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
> ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
> if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
> together for something like that! I think I've found
> exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
> state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands!
> Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
> Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....
> 
> Anise, from Nashville


Does Texas count? ;)  I know, technically, we are in the southwest.  
But I would like to see the premiere with fellow freaks, too!  LOL

Alora





From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 20:31:44 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HowStuffWorks survey
In-Reply-To: <B9D1EB53.3984%john@queerasjohn.com>
Message-ID: <20021015203144.81590.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>

Unfortunately, the results of the Harry Potter survey on HowStuffWorks showed
over 50% of respondents had not read any of the books.  However, they have a
link to Scholastic's HP site (as one listee mentioned, but I deleted the
message so I don't remember who) which has a really cool trivia challenge. 
After a few tries, I actually made the High Scores list!  Of course, I should
point out that book/chapter references are given with each question, so it
wouldn't be too hard to just sit down with the books and look up anything you
don't know...

http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/challenge/

Sherry


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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Tue Oct 15 20:31:46 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:31:46 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Okay, I HAVE to ask
References: <aohtie+q7ol@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DAC7B32.5000307@kingwoodcable.com>

alora wrote:

> 
> Does Texas count? ;)  I know, technically, we are in the southwest.  
> But I would like to see the premiere with fellow freaks, too!  LOL
> 
> Alora
> 

I live in Texas - Houston to be exact. I've always considered Houston to be in 
the South, and west Texas (like San Anotnio) to be in the Southwest. Houston is 
more "southern" in my opinion. Dallas/Ft. Worth - I'm not sure how people 
classify them. Are they Midwest?

Take Care!
Katze (who's originally from New Mexico)





From Zephyrjaid at aol.com  Tue Oct 15 20:57:30 2002
From: Zephyrjaid at aol.com (Zephyrjaid at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:57:30 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 794
Message-ID: <16c.159a5afe.2adddb3a@aol.com>

First, I'll introduce myself - my name is Liz (I'm also known as Zeph), I'm 
terribly shy online and have been lurking for quite a while, and I finally 
decided to bag my fear and say hello to all you terrifying listees. ;)

Sherry: Speaking of those horrid Royal Crest trucks - I woke up at three in 
the morning last night because of one. We've been battling with them for ages 
because our milkman comes so early in the morning that the milk goes bad by 
the time we get it in the refrigerator. Oh, and by the way - where will you 
be for the premiere? (I live in southern metro Denver)

Costumes: I'm not wearing one for Halloween, but I will be in costume at 
Nimbus next year - hopefully the air conditioning at the Swan will be on full 
blast, as the uniform is so *hot*! I'm still in the process of picking out 
materials and such, and I was wondering what everybody used for their robes. 
It seems like they're rayon/wool or something similar, but I'm not sure. I've 
got the wool pleated skirt, gray sweater (still needs red and gold stripes), 
white shirt, scarlet and gold tie and scarf, and a Gryffindor patch. I'm also 
thinking about making a cloak to complete the outfit, though if I wear it 
I'll boil to death. :) Orlando + July = HOT. 

Liz, thinking that wasn't so bad (See? I belong in Gryffindor, really!) 


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From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Tue Oct 15 21:33:31 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:33:31 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <3DAC7B32.5000307@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <000901c27492$85e8f800$62c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

My response:
 
I'm just an hour south of Houston!  Coolness, finally some locals on
here.  I would consider Houston to be southern TX.  I wouldn't know how
to classify Dallas/Ft. Worth, midwest sounds ok, I suppose,
 
Jennifer 
 
 
 
Katze said: 

I live in Texas - Houston to be exact. I've always considered Houston to
be in 
the South, and west Texas (like San Anotnio) to be in the Southwest.
Houston is 
more "southern" in my opinion. Dallas/Ft. Worth - I'm not sure how
people 
classify them. Are they Midwest?

Take Care!
Katze (who's originally from New Mexico)




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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 15 22:20:51 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:20:51 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <000901c27492$85e8f800$62c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aoi4c3+p3ct@eGroups.com>

Katze wrote:
>>>Houston is more "southern" in my opinion. Dallas/Ft. Worth - I'm
not sure how people classify them. Are they Midwest?<<<


(as I wave my hand wildly)
Me, me...I'm from the South.  Well not by your definition, but I
consider myself to be.  I am actually from Houston, how I miss my
home, though right now I am up here in Denton for grad school.

Generally, Houstonians think of themselves as part of the South.  We
did at least fight in the Civil War so that gives us some leverage.

As for Dallas and Fort Worth, it has been said that Dallas is where
the East ends, and Fort Worth is where the West begins.  Makes sense
really, since Dallas is more business oriented, and Fort Worth is
known for her stockyards.

But I agree.  Potter maniacs are hard to find around here.  Can be a
bit depressing though it all works great when you *have* to cut lunch
break to go and get the new poster books.  I know they will have them
in stock.

Melody









From heidit at netbox.com  Tue Oct 15 22:29:07 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:29:07 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aohtie+q7ol@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <053e01c2749a$4674cac0$0201a8c0@Frodo>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catherine Danielson <anise_leinen at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
> ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
> if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
> together for something like that! I think I've found
> exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
> state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands! 
> Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
> Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....


We're having a HUGE get-together in Orlando at Pleasure Island's theater
- many of us who are organizing Nimbus - 2003 will be in attendence, as
will a lot of Floridians - and anyone is welcome to fly down and join us
for a double shot of the movie and a trip to pleasure island the next
night as well. 

And for those who didn't know, HPfGU mod (and former listmom) Penny
Linsenmeyer is in Houston, and there's a Texas list on the list of
Regional Lists here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/links/Regional_HPfGU_Lists_0
00999973547/ - if your area isn't on the list already, talk with the
HPfGU mods about starting one and adding it to the LINKS page. 




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 23:33:05 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:33:05 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoi4c3+p3ct@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoi8jh+mr6u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> (as I wave my hand wildly)
> Me, me...I'm from the South.  Well not by your definition, but I
> consider myself to be.  I am actually from Houston, how I miss my
> home, though right now I am up here in Denton for grad school.
> 
> Melody

Melody!  I am in Lewisville!  :O

Wow, in internet terms, we are next door neighbors!  *LOL*


Alora




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 15 23:46:09 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:46:09 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Okay, I HAVE to ask
Message-ID: <F142kNzPZrIkyPzGNso00000360@hotmail.com>

Anise Asked:

>Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
>ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
>if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
>together for something like that! I think I've found
>exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
>state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands!
>Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
>Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....

Okay, my turn

(nervously looks around for Moderators)

Anybody out there in Philly?   Delaware Valley area?  Heck, I'll go as far 
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From john at queerasjohn.com  Tue Oct 15 23:54:47 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 00:54:47 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <F142kNzPZrIkyPzGNso00000360@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <B9D26957.3A20%john@queerasjohn.com>

Gail Bohacek said:

> (nervously looks around for Moderators)

Hey, don't worry about it! The only way that any HPFGUers ever met up in the
first place was that we mentioned where we came from. I think the first ever
meet was in New York, when we organised something in honor of Neil Ward's
visit. There's a fairly large HPFGU-NewYork group, which I'm nominally in
charge of. However, as I'm currently in Scotland, I won't be organising the
NY movie experience!

All of the regional groups can be found via a link from the homepage,
http://www.hpfgu.org.uk. If you don't see one for your area, start one up!
If you don't know if there's anyone else in your area, ask here! If you
don't know how, email the Mods and Elves at
hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com and someone I'm sure will help you out.

Honestly, nothing is as much fun as meeting online people offline. *grins*

Cheers,

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 16 01:05:54 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:05:54 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoi8jh+mr6u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoie1i+7qun@eGroups.com>

> Melody!  I am in Lewisville!  :O
>
> Wow, in internet terms, we are next door neighbors!  *LOL*
>
> Alora



Ahhh, I work at the hospital in Lewisville.  I drive there everyday.
That is too eirry.  Now I know who is also snapping up all the Potter
merchadise besides me...Hi, neighbor.  :)

Melody




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 01:25:42 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:25:42 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoie1i+7qun@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoif6m+ajkf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> > Melody!  I am in Lewisville!  :O
> >
> > Wow, in internet terms, we are next door neighbors!  *LOL*
> >
> > Alora
> 
> 
> 
> Ahhh, I work at the hospital in Lewisville.  I drive there 
everyday.
> That is too eirry.  Now I know who is also snapping up all the 
Potter
> merchadise besides me...Hi, neighbor.  :)
> 
> Melody

Hehehehe  I wish I could snap up every piece of merchandise 
available!  But space and money are a factor.  I'm getting ready to 
spring for that Hogwart's Castle.  I had more fun playing with a 
friend's the other day :D.   If you get the urge to dress up to go 
see Harry Potter, let me know and I will meet you at Vista Ridge or 
something (or Grapevine Mills?  seats there are good).  It doesn't 
have to be on premiere day, either.  I'm goofy enough to dress up 
any time I go! 

Alora




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 01:53:32 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:53:32 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP toys/ dressing up (and symposium)
References: <aohjo0+ti90@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008801c274b6$d67ecfa0$06a1cdd1@istu757>


> I have what may be a silly question, but do any of you buy/collect
> the Harry Potter dolls?  I have three boys and one daughter and they
> have some of the action figures, but my daughter has the Wizard
> Sweets Harry and Hermione.  Here's my question:  have any of you
> seen a Wizard Sweets Ron?  I never have!  Am I just dreaming or did
> they not make one at all?  I bought my daughter the Weasley car for
> Christmas (it's going to be hard not to give it to her after the
> movie) and Harry and Hermione fit, I just wondered where I could
> find a Ron.  Oh, and one more question.  I really like the Hogwarts
> Heroes Hermione doll.  Anyone know if there is a Harry or Ron in
> those, also?  And, if so, WHERE can I find them?  Thank you so much!!
>
> Alora

Silly question?!?  How dare you insinuate anything related to Harry Potter
is silly! :)  I, in fact, collect pretty much all of the HP toys.  So far
I've got all of the main action figures from the first movie, every Harry
action figure made, and all the CoS figures yet released.  I also have the
dolls.  I have Magical Talking Hermione (incredible, highly recommended),
Wizard Sweets Harry and Hogwarts Heroes Ron.  They make a Hogwarts Hero Ron,
Harry, and Hermione.  They make Wizard Sweets Harry and Hermione.  The only
Magical Talking doll (so far at least) is Hermione.  They also made another
series, with only Harry and Hermione, something with their magic stuff.
Can't remember what it was called.  Something about spells, maybe.   So,
once again Ron has been cheated. :(  Only one doll to Harry's three and
Hermione's four.

Another aggravating thing here, they are supposed to be making a "Great Hall
feast' table to seat these dolls.  And it seats four.  There are only three
different dolls.  What about the fourth?  It's not fair!  I'm kind of hoping
they'll make a Ginny doll.

Alora writes:

> It's going to be great, Richelle!!!  All the children will know who
> you are just by the outfit, they won't care about picky details the
> way we do! I'm fretting that the hot grey sweater doesn't match
> exactly, and that my shoes are not mary janes, they are brown
> loafers!  *LOL*  BTW, are you going to the Harry Potter Symposium?
> I'm thinking about it......

If one kids dares to ask me where my tie is, I will snap at them quite
severely!  Pull out my wand even, and say something impressive. :)  My shoes
aren't Mary Janes either, but they are black.  And my knee socks are trouser
socks, not regular knee socks.  Since trouser socks are so much thinner I
thought they'd be cooler.  As for the Symposium, I doubt it.  I really want
to go, but my mother keeps reminding me of the trip to London I want to take
in a couple of years, and how much money it would cost to go to Florida.
Then again my best friend keeps reminding me that I've got the rest of my
life to go to London, and Nimbus 2003 only happens once.  <sigh> What to do,
what to do?!

Richelle


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 02:08:16 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:08:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Okay, I HAVE to ask
References: <20021015183838.4673.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01be01c274b8$e63c2120$06a1cdd1@istu757>


> Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
> ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
> if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
> together for something like that! I think I've found
> exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
> state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands!
> Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
> Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....
>
> Anise, from Nashville

Well, by thta definition I guess I'm not even on the map!  Louisiana is so
far south I consider "South Carolina" the north. :)  (Don't tell!)

Richelle

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From boggles at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 16 02:13:34 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:13:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <3DAC7B32.5000307@kingwoodcable.com>
References: <aohtie+q7ol@eGroups.com> <3DAC7B32.5000307@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <p05010400b9d27b40a9b1@[199.174.14.87]>

At 3:31 PM -0500 10/15/02, Katze wrote:
>
>I live in Texas - Houston to be exact. I've always considered Houston to be in
>the South, and west Texas (like San Anotnio) to be in the Southwest. 
>Houston is
>more "southern" in my opinion. Dallas/Ft. Worth - I'm not sure how people
>classify them. Are they Midwest?

Also in Houston, and I concur.  Although anything west of Baton Rouge 
is sort of a hybrid.

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 16 02:32:48 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 02:32:48 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoif6m+ajkf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoij4g+4vbr@eGroups.com>

Alora wrote:

> Hehehehe  I wish I could snap up every piece of merchandise
> available!  But space and money are a factor.  I'm getting ready to
> spring for that Hogwart's Castle.  I had more fun playing with a
> friend's the other day :D.   If you get the urge to dress up to go
> see Harry Potter, let me know and I will meet you at Vista Ridge or
> something (or Grapevine Mills?  seats there are good).  It doesn't
> have to be on premiere day, either.  I'm goofy enough to dress up
> any time I go!
>
> Alora

He he, don't encourage me.  I am a fashion history major, so my
costumes tend to be rather accurate to say the least.  But I would
love to dress up and shock the innocent movie patrons.  Hmm, now where
did I put that cloak of mine...

As for the toys, I have avoided the castles and legos, though I
greatly loved my brother's and mine as a child.  I have fallen for the
casting stones bug and have actually manage to collect all but a
selected almost impossible ones to find few.  I can be a bit driven
when my collective bug kicks in which works to your advantage when you
want to be a curator.

Melody




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 02:47:47 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 02:47:47 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoij4g+4vbr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoik0j+6e9m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> 
> He he, don't encourage me.  I am a fashion history major, so my
> costumes tend to be rather accurate to say the least.  But I would
> love to dress up and shock the innocent movie patrons.  Hmm, now 
where
> did I put that cloak of mine...
> 
> As for the toys, I have avoided the castles and legos, though I
> greatly loved my brother's and mine as a child.  I have fallen for 
the
> casting stones bug and have actually manage to collect all but a
> selected almost impossible ones to find few.  I can be a bit driven
> when my collective bug kicks in which works to your advantage when 
you
> want to be a curator.
> 
> Melody

You know, I've not really paid attention to the casting stones.  
What do you do with them?  My kids have not bothered me for them, 
they just like the action figures.  As for the toys, I don't like 
legos!  You FINALLY get them together, only to be taken down (or 
destroyed, since we have a three year old girl around) and then 6 
months later you think, "What the heck is this supposed to be?"  Heh.
I just love those bigger dolls, but it's no fun to keep them in the 
box.  I want to play with them, undress them, dress them 
again....maybe cut their hair as I did Barbie years ago?  Nah, just 
kidding.  I hate leaving toys in the box, though.  My husband just 
thinks I am plain weird anyway, liking kids' books and movies and 
cartoons (go Powerpuff Girls!)  :D

Alora




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 16 03:13:23 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 03:13:23 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <aoik0j+6e9m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoilgj+k10s@eGroups.com>

And so Alora and I continue this conversation:
> You know, I've not really paid attention to the casting stones.
> What do you do with them?  <<

Umm...collect them.  :)

Hmm, let's see.
The game instructions that comes with the starter set has this
confusing three level playing system for many age group's difficulty.
 I have never attempted to figure it out, so I can't really say
whether the game is good or not.  There is a powercaster game that
works with the stones and figurines.  It is a sort of duel between
characters using the power of the stones.  Kind of fun...I can fix it
so that Ron beat Malfoy and raise his ego.  Can't wait to get the
Lockhart figurine to pit him against my Snape.  Hehehe.

I guess I mostly like the casting stones because they are based on the
books.  There are stones for the chocolate frog wizards, Peeves, lemon
drops...most things the movie glazed over.

I haven't gotten into the dolls.  They look cute though.  I did wonder
why Harry and Hermione are the only ones that had "girly" toys.  At
least we could have a Ron doll too.

Melody

 




From anise_leinen at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 03:38:05 2002
From: anise_leinen at yahoo.com (Catherine Danielson)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:38:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: All alone in Tennessee... 
In-Reply-To: <1034735574.6432.83378.m9@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021016033805.39654.qmail@web21406.mail.yahoo.com>



> 
HI!!! Waves madly at Texas and Orlando. Wow. That's
still pretty far from these here parts. I think
somebody said they were in South Louisiana, other than
that, it looks like I'm it. (Anise begins sniffing,
drinking Maker's Mark whiskey at Bobbi's Idle Hour
Dive Bar, and listening to old Hank Williams tunes
over and over again.)
Anise

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From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 04:06:56 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 04:06:56 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <B9D26957.3A20%john@queerasjohn.com>
Message-ID: <aoiol0+lq6l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Queer as John <john at q...> wrote:
> 
> Hey, don't worry about it! The only way that any HPFGUers ever met 
up in the
> first place was that we mentioned where we came from.

> 
> All of the regional groups can be found via a link from the 
homepage,
> http://www.hpfgu.org.uk. 

> If you don't know if there's anyone else in your area, ask here! 
> Cheers,
> 
> --John, speaking sort of as a Mod but not really. *chuckle*
> 
> ______________________________________
> 
Thanks John!  
I just checked out the site and there's only TWO people that signed 
on to the New England page, and that was back in March, 2002!
Surely there must be more of us??

Anna  . . . who LOVES that dirty water . . .




From mdemeran at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 16 09:53:58 2002
From: mdemeran at hotmail.com (Meg Demeranville)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 09:53:58 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <20021015183838.4673.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aojcvm+mk3i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catherine Danielson <anise_leinen at y...> 
wrote:
> Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
> Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....


I am from south Alabama, land of too many pine trees and rain. Does 
that count? 




From ronib at mindspring.com  Wed Oct 16 14:00:07 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:00:07 -0000
Subject: Harry Pottter Puppet Movie
Message-ID: <aojrd7+gr8v@eGroups.com>

Ok, just came over to this list from the main HP4GU one, but I 
searched the archives and didn't see this, so I thought I would share.

Have you guys seen the Harry Potter and the SS Movie Puppet Show? 
Quite goofy, but kinda cute. Not a video, just a website where you 
read the puppet show. There's also LOTR, all 5 Star Wars Movies, and 
a few more. Hee!

If you've already seen it, forgive me for being redundant.

http://www.jerrythefrogproductions.com/HarryPotter.html

Veronica




From angee1a at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 14:58:20 2002
From: angee1a at yahoo.com (Angie)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:58:20 -0000
Subject: 1 cent Harry Potter stuff
Message-ID: <aojuqc+r0js@eGroups.com>

http://www.laundromatic.net/newauction/item.php?
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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 15:00:50 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:00:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday times 3!
Message-ID: <20021016150050.51958.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>

*an over-worked elf rouses herself from sleep, rubs
her eyes and shuffles over to the calendar*

What do you mean this isn't the 15th? Let's just
pretend I didn't fall asleep last night after work,
okay? Fine with all of you? Good. 

On to the business at hand, three birthdays. Yup,
that's right. Count 'em...1, 2, 3. Well, only because
we're pretending I didn't fall asleep and forget to
post yesterday's. :)

Birthday honourees are Nethilia, Katze and Rowan.
Birthday owls can be send to this list or directly to
the honourees at: nethilia at yahoo.com (Nethilia),
jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze) and
rowanbrookt at hotmail.com (Rowan).

I hope everyone had or is having the most magical day
possible, filled with fun and everything you hoped
for.

Happy Birthday, Nethilia!
Happy Birthday, Katze!
Happy Birthday, Rowan!

Raising a glass of butterbeer,
Sheryll

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 20:53:06 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:53:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Help deciding on a great part from HP
Message-ID: <27487139.1034801586875.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

Help!  I've decided it might be nice to read a portion from one of the HP books 
when I do the "literary festival" thing on Halloween (i.e. dress up as Hermione 
Granger!)  What scene would be really vivid when read aloud? That involves 
Hermione?  That a four year old could comprehend?  Yes, I'm asking a lot.  
Which is why I'm asking, if it were that simple I could think of it myself. :)  
It also needs to be able to be understood on its own with no working knowledge 
of HP, other than perhaps the movie.  Most kids around here seem to have seen 
it.

Thanks for any input!

Richelle
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From erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 21:08:36 2002
From: erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com (erisedstraeh2002)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:08:36 -0000
Subject: Help deciding on a great part from HP
In-Reply-To: <27487139.1034801586875.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>
Message-ID: <aokkgk+teos@eGroups.com>

Richelle wrote:

> Help!  I've decided it might be nice to read a portion from one of 
> the HP books when I do the "literary festival" thing on Halloween 
> (i.e. dress up as Hermione Granger!)  What scene would be really 
> vivid when read aloud? That involves Hermione?  That a four year 
> old could comprehend?  Yes, I'm asking a lot.   

Now me:

I would have to say that IMO Hermione's finest hour was when she 
deciphered Snape's potion riddle at the end of PS/SS.  I also love 
how she tells Harry that he's a great wizard at the end of that scene 
and that bravery and friendship are more important than books and 
cleverness.

Probably not on a four-year old comprehension level, however, but JKR 
has said that her books weren't meant for anyone younger than 8, so 
I'm not sure you're going to find an appropriate passage for 4 year 
olds.  You may need to reword it yourself into language 4 year olds 
can understand.

~Phyllis




From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 22:22:14 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:22:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 794
In-Reply-To: <16c.159a5afe.2adddb3a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20021016222214.86655.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

In response to my milkman post, Liz said:

> Sherry: Speaking of those horrid Royal Crest trucks - I woke up at three in 
> the morning last night because of one. We've been battling with them for ages
> because our milkman comes so early in the morning that the milk goes bad by 
> the time we get it in the refrigerator. Oh, and by the way - where will you 
> be for the premiere? (I live in southern metro Denver)

Yay!  I will be living with my mom in Littleton at least until my house sells
(read: definitely for the premiere, and probably until it comes out on DVD). 
It would be fun to get together for the premiere!  I'm going to make an iron-on
Hogwarts crest and put it on a sweatshirt so that it looks like a college
shirt, and that's what I'll probably wear to the movie.  I'll probably make
them for my kids too.  As an added bonus, my company has a 9/80 work week
(i.e., 9-hour days, with every other Friday off) and I'm 90% sure that Nov.
15th is an off Friday!

Sherry

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From witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 00:47:50 2002
From: witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com (Wanda the *B*Witch)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:47:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Nethilia, Katze, and Rowan
In-Reply-To: <20021016150050.51958.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021017004750.51517.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at yahoo.com> wrote:
Happy Birthday, Nethilia!
Happy Birthday, Katze!
Happy Birthday, Rowan!
Raising a glass of butterbeer,
Sheryll

Well, it seems like a belated Birthday Group of Wishes are needed here! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU THREE! we also toast you with 3 mugs of Butterbeer and then some! Hope you all got what you wished for! May the party keep on going! 

Schnoogles,

Wanda the *B*Witch and Her Very Merry Band of Muggles 100% 





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From nplyon at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 04:18:52 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Michiganders?
Message-ID: <20021017041852.61756.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and ask if there
are any Michiganders out there?  I got my husband to
read all four books and my best friend is reading CoS
but I don't know anyone who's as big an HP freak as I
am. 

~Nicole

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From Zephyrjaid at aol.com  Thu Oct 17 04:59:58 2002
From: Zephyrjaid at aol.com (zephyrjaid7)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 04:59:58 -0000
Subject: Attention: Sherry
Message-ID: <aolg4e+firq@eGroups.com>

<Yay!  I will be living with my mom in Littleton at least until my 
<house sells(read: definitely for the premiere, and probably until it 
<comes out on DVD). It would be fun to get together for the 
<premiere!  I'm going to make an iron-on Hogwarts crest and put it on 
<a sweatshirt so that it looks like a college shirt, and that's what 
<I'll probably wear to the movie.  I'll probably make them for my 
<kids too.  As an added bonus, my company has a 9/80 work week(i.e., 
<9-hour days, with every other Friday off) and I'm 90% sure that Nov.
<15th is an off Friday!
<
<Sherry

I live in Highlands Ranch...pretty darn close to Littleton! :) I'm 
already planning to see the film at AMC 24 in Highlands Ranch with a 
few of my friends (warning: high schoolers!) and probably my six-year-
old brother. I'm sure I could change the plans if neccessary, but the 
theater is easy to find and had HPSS on five screens - no problems 
with finding times! 

Liz




From anise_leinen at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 15:28:03 2002
From: anise_leinen at yahoo.com (Catherine Danielson)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sweet Home Alabama
In-Reply-To: <1034842348.322.47088.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021017152803.36594.qmail@web21407.mail.yahoo.com>


Meg, Yay! You're the closest one so far!!! (No, I
haven't seen the Reese Witherspoon movie and don't
plan to; yes, she's from Nashville and I know people
who were in her class at rich snotty Harpeth Hall
Girl's School.) Well, that's enough random rambling
for now!
Anise

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From ronib at mindspring.com  Thu Oct 17 15:50:33 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:50:33 -0000
Subject: Okay, I HAVE to ask
In-Reply-To: <20021015183838.4673.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aomm89+t1o3@eGroups.com>

anise wrote:
> 
> Regarding the film premiere idea (ahem.) Is there
> ANYONE from, well, the entire SOUTH here? I don't know
> if we could get any people (or anybody but me!)
> together for something like that! I think I've found
> exactly one person in all of HP fandom from my
> state(Aja.) Come on! Show of hands!
> Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/South
> Carolina/Tennessee??? Anyone... hellloooooo....
> 
> Anise, from Nashville
> 

I tried this once, but I think I messed up, so I'll try one more time.

I'm in N. Alabama now, Huntsville/Madison area (about 1.5 hours south 
of Nashville on i-65), but I just moved down here from Nashville-- 
Brentwood technically.

Still, I'm more Tennessean than Alabamian, seeing as how I was raised 
in Jack Daniel's country. =)

Veronica




From mdemeran at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 17 17:07:17 2002
From: mdemeran at hotmail.com (Meg Demeranville)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:07:17 -0000
Subject: Sweet Home Alabama
In-Reply-To: <20021017152803.36594.qmail@web21407.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aomqo5+7tko@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catherine Danielson <anise_leinen at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Meg, Yay! You're the closest one so far!!! (No, I
> haven't seen the Reese Witherspoon movie and don't
> plan to; yes, she's from Nashville and I know people
> who were in her class at rich snotty Harpeth Hall
> Girl's School.) Well, that's enough random rambling
> for now!
> Anise

Actually, it wasn't that bad. True it made my state look stupid again 
but after Forrest Gump, it's hard to convince anyone that we are 
intelligent. And her accent wasn't nearly as obnoxious as it could 
have been. But I'm from the south end of the state, and it's 
different here on the coast. But it could have been so much worse. I 
was worried that it would end up more on the "if you are from 
Alabama, you must be an inbred hick" end of the spectrum. The girls 
from my medical school class decided that we would see it together 
opening night. We laughed, we sang along (they left out part of the 
refrain to Sweet Home Alabama, don't they know there is a Roll, Tide, 
Roll in there) and basically forgot our books for an evening. Oh 
well, now I am rambling and I need to get back to class. 

Meg




From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk  Thu Oct 17 18:20:57 2002
From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:20:57 -0000
Subject: Help deciding on a great part from HP
In-Reply-To: <27487139.1034801586875.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>
Message-ID: <aomv29+bajf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., rvotaw at i... wrote:
> Help!  I've decided it might be nice to read a portion from one of 
the HP books 
> when I do the "literary festival" thing on Halloween (i.e. dress 
up as Hermione 
> Granger!)  What scene would be really vivid when read aloud? That 
involves 
> Hermione?  That a four year old could comprehend?  Yes, I'm asking 
a lot.  
> Which is why I'm asking, if it were that simple I could think of 
it myself. :)  
> It also needs to be able to be understood on its own with no 
working knowledge 
> of HP, other than perhaps the movie.  Most kids around here seem 
to have seen 
> it.
> 
> Thanks for any input!
> 
> Richelle

Uh, how about the polyjuice scene in Chapter 12 of CoS? With cuts.

If you read from the Christmas Dinner (about 7 pages into the 
Chapter in my edition), then *cut* from 'We'll meet you back here, 
alright?' to 'they sprinted in their socks up the marble staircase 
up to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom' (about 2 and a half pages later in 
my edition )

[with a line to cover - Something like After Harry and Ron had 
managed to sneak into the Slytherin Common Room, they realised with 
horror that their hour was nearly up...] 

then continue to the end of the chapter.

It shows Hermione off, it's got a funny punch line, and I think four 
year olds would probably like the idea of a potion that turns you 
into a cat if you get it wrong.

Otherwise, Phyllis's suggestion is a good one...

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From zeff8 at attbi.com  Thu Oct 17 22:34:57 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:34:57 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Michiganders?
References: <20021017041852.61756.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ab01c2762d$6bf32d20$1204f50c@attbi.com>

Yepper Nicole.. Im in Grand Rapids..



----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole L." <nplyon at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:18 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Michiganders?


> I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and ask if there
> are any Michiganders out there?  I got my husband to
> read all four books and my best friend is reading CoS
> but I don't know anyone who's as big an HP freak as I
> am.
>
> ~Nicole
>
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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 23:08:28 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:08:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Any fellow Utahns?
Message-ID: <20021017230828.76388.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi! I am Kristi, and I live in West Jordan, Utah.  Any
other 30+ HP fanatics out here?

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From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 23:59:01 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:59:01 -0000
Subject: Photos of my costume!
Message-ID: <aonis5+gp90@eGroups.com>

Ok y'all, here is what my costume somewhat looks like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=725451481

The only difference is, my robe was custom made to be longer (with an 
embroidered patch) and I might not embroider the neckline again (it 
took so long!).  The reason why I might not embroider my neckline is 
because I might want to go as a Ravenclaw instead of a Gryffindor. :)
Oh well...we'll see...I might just get an additional grey sweater and 
embroider that also!




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 18 01:27:08 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 01:27:08 -0000
Subject: For the love of HP
Message-ID: <aono1c+r05s@eGroups.com>



You know you are obsessed with Harry Potter when you buy a child's
Halloween HP costume, which will never fit, just for the embroidered
patch and a 12 pack of cokes, which you do not even drink, just for
the collector's card.  Sigh.

Melody
Who got really patronizing looks from an eight-year-old at Target when
she tried on the HP costume.  Maybe because it was so short that it
make Ron's look generous.




From selah_1977 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 01:32:25 2002
From: selah_1977 at yahoo.com (Ebony)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 01:32:25 -0000
Subject: If you seek a pleasant peninsula...
In-Reply-To: <20021017041852.61756.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aonob9+3kp9@eGroups.com>

...look about you.  :)

Hi, Nicole and everyone!

I normally am in deep deep lurkdom here, but Heidi gave me a heads-up 
for this thread.  I'm a Michigan native, and except for four years of 
college in Florida (excluding summers) have lived my entire life in 
metro Detroit.  :-D 

I also own the HP4GU-GreatLakes list.  We're planning for a get-
together on the 15th... soon-to-be Chicagoan Josh will descend on the 
Detroit/Chicago area that weekend, and we plan to have bashes in both 
cities.

For more information, check us out here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes/

This list is for meeting and planning get-togethers for anyone who 
lives in a state or province that touches the North American Great 
Lakes, including but not limited to Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, 
Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Ontario (Canada).  (Yes, 
technically upstate New York, western Pennsylvania, and Quebec touch 
the lakes as well, but they're more Eastern than anything else.)  We 
also serve the general Midwest HP4GU region... one member who's 
actively come to get togethers is from the St. Louis area.

Come join us!  

--Ebony AKA AngieJ, who was once "Ebony of the Great Lakes" in 
another online fandom...





From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Fri Oct 18 01:32:21 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:32:21 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] For the love of HP
In-Reply-To: <aono1c+r05s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c27646$396ae410$62c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 
    Melody wrote: 



You know you are obsessed with Harry Potter when you buy a child's
Halloween HP costume, which will never fit, just for the embroidered
patch and a 12 pack of cokes, which you do not even drink, just for
the collector's card.  Sigh.

Melody
Who got really patronizing looks from an eight-year-old at Target when
she tried on the HP costume.  Maybe because it was so short that it
make Ron's look generous.

 
My Response: 
 
I was just thinking of this myself.  Before discussing making my
costume, my mom bought three of the boxed robe, glasses,and wand sets.
They were obviously too small, even for my 12 year old sister.
 
My idea is this:  How hard would it be to get something sent to WB to
let them know that THERE IS an adult fanbase for Harry Potter?  I myself
wouldn't mind buying an ADULT SIZED costume! 
 
Am I off base here or could this be of interest?
 

Oh wow, cokes have collectible HP cards?  Too bad my family doesn't buy
12 packs anymore, ARGH! 
 
Jennifer--(whose mother is also using the Gryffindor patch from the
kiddie robe on her costume) 
 
 
 
 



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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 02:00:53 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:00:53 -0000
Subject: For the love of HP
In-Reply-To: <aono1c+r05s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aonq0l+j9qp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> 
> 
> You know you are obsessed with Harry Potter when you buy a child's
> Halloween HP costume, which will never fit, just for the 
embroidered
> patch and a 12 pack of cokes, which you do not even drink, just for
> the collector's card.  Sigh.
> 
> Melody
> Who got really patronizing looks from an eight-year-old at Target 
when
> she tried on the HP costume.  Maybe because it was so short that it
> make Ron's look generous.


LOL!! I swear, you people are BLOODY BRILLIANT.  I would never have 
thought to do that, and it would have been much cheaper.  I ended up 
buying a Gryffindor patch from ebay, but I should have bought that 
inexpensive child's robe instead!!  aagghh.  Live and learn, yes?
And, Melody, you really made me laugh about trying on the robe at 
Target.  If my nine year old son had seen you, he probably would 
have done the same thing.  Wait a minute, maybe not, because I run 
around here in my costume waving his wand and saying, "alohomora" at 
least twice a week.  Okay, scratch that though! :D  Anyway, thanks 
for the idea.  If my son wants me to make him a better robe later, I 
will get the cheaper robe and use the patch on that.  Thank you!

Alora




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 02:02:36 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:02:36 -0000
Subject: Photos of my costume!
In-Reply-To: <aonis5+gp90@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aonq3s+q1n2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at y...> wrote:
> Ok y'all, here is what my costume somewhat looks like:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=725451481
> 
> The only difference is, my robe was custom made to be longer (with 
an 
> embroidered patch) and I might not embroider the neckline again 
(it 
> took so long!).  The reason why I might not embroider my neckline 
is 
> because I might want to go as a Ravenclaw instead of a 
Gryffindor. :)
> Oh well...we'll see...I might just get an additional grey sweater 
and 
> embroider that also!

Wow!  That looks fabulous.  My costume looks almost the same, except 
that I don't have the gold/burgundy embroidery on the v-neck.  
*sigh*  I'll just have to live without it, I guess. If I was to try 
and embroider, how would I go about doing it?  Does anyone here know 
how?  I sew a bit, but not embroidery. 

Alora




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 18 03:22:50 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 03:22:50 -0000
Subject: For the love of HP
In-Reply-To: <aonq0l+j9qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aonuqa+22sb@eGroups.com>

Alora,

FWI, I found really, really cheap iron-on "patches" HP robes at
Walmart up here in Denton, but the embroidered ones where in the
Target in Denton.  Not sure is Super Target off 121 has them too, but
I would figure.  Sometimes though, we have old costumes up here
because they never sold last year...hey works for me.  But they did
have about 5 more good robes if you have a hard time finding them and
just *must have them.

:)

Melody
Who is greatly pleases to find the Harry card, *with sword* mind you,
in her 12 pack.  But, aren't the Coke cans supposed to have pictures
from the movie on them?  Richelle, do yours?  Mine are so plain.  :(




From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 03:52:56 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 03:52:56 -0000
Subject: Please tell me someone can make Bordeaux cookies!
Message-ID: <aoo0io+teho@eGroups.com>

Okay, so here's my dilemma.

I love Pepperidge Farm Bordeaux cookies.  
More than I should, of course...  I think 
it's the texture that really does it for 
me.

Anyway, do any of you have a cookie recipe 
for something similar?  I remember making 
some really yummy crunchy oatmeal lace 
cookies (Swedish in origin, I believe) when 
I was in the 6th grade for a project, but 
that recipe is long gone.  Besides, that 
always turned out kinda chewy after a few 
hours.

So, I'm looking for a REALLY crispy/crunchy 
cookie with a bit of a brown sugar/molasses/
golden syrup flavor, spreads crumbs all 
over you, and is nice and flat and NOT SOFT 
AT ALL.  The kind of recipe that instructs 
you to melt the butter first.  I suppose I 
could use up all the flour in the house 
trying to make one of my own, but I think 
I'd go crazy, and my husband would KILL me 
for dirtying all his clean dishes. ;)

Hopefully waiting,
JenP (who has a really bad habit of eating 
sugary things when she's stressed out, and 
who has been REALLY stressed out today, so 
maybe you're not doing me any favors by 
giving me a recipe for a whole BATCH of 
yummy cookies...)




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 09:31:07 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Any fellow Utahns?
Message-ID: <20021018093107.55434.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>


Subject: Any fellow Utahns?

Hi! I am Kristi, and I live in West Jordan, Utah.  Any
other 30+ HP fanatics out here?

__________________________________________________

Yes! <Lilac waves> I am (barely) 30+ and I live in SLC in the University section of town.  So, we're like practically neighbors.  I can almost see you waving at me across the Jordan River!  

~Lilac, whose Halloween costume consists of a Happy Halloween vest, a Frankenstein necklace and matching earrings that look like large screws going through my earlobes.  The first graders used to think they were real! 



 

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From judyshapiro at directvinternet.com  Fri Oct 18 11:37:51 2002
From: judyshapiro at directvinternet.com (Judy)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:37:51 -0000
Subject: Please tell me someone can make Bordeaux cookies!
In-Reply-To: <aoo0io+teho@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoorqf+j5n0@eGroups.com>

Jen P said:
> So, I'm looking for a REALLY crispy/crunchy 
> cookie with a bit of a brown sugar/molasses/
> golden syrup flavor, spreads crumbs all 
> over you, and is nice and flat and NOT SOFT 
> AT ALL.  

Surprisingly, I couldn't find one by searching on "bordeaux cookie" in
Google or dejanews.  But, this sounds like the sort of thing the Joy
of Cooking would have a recipe for (or maybe several.) 

I know there are books of "copycat" recipes for brand-name products. 
Sraching google or amazon for "copycat recipe" might turn up some more
sources. 

Not-very-helpful!Judy




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 18 12:09:25 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:09:25 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Utahns in Costume
Message-ID: <F5298Bi89QtpfTYSl1q000012d9@hotmail.com>

Lilac Wrote:

>~Lilac, whose Halloween costume consists of a Happy Halloween vest, a 
>Frankenstein necklace and matching earrings that look like large screws 
>going through my earlobes.  The first graders used to think they were real!

Hey man...what ever happened to wizard robes?  I thought ALL of us were 
going as Hermione? :)

-Gail B.


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From ken.kuller at veritas.com  Fri Oct 18 12:43:21 2002
From: ken.kuller at veritas.com (Kenneth M. Kuller)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:43:21 -0000
Subject: If you seek a pleasant peninsula...
In-Reply-To: <aonob9+3kp9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoovl9+10ko8@eGroups.com>

We folks in Minnesota and Wisconsin (oh yeah ... and them Yoopers, 
too) feel smug in knowing that our lake is Superior.    ;)



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony" <selah_1977 at y...> wrote:
[Snip]
> I also own the HP4GU-GreatLakes list.  We're planning for a get-
> together on the 15th... soon-to-be Chicagoan Josh will descend on 
the 
> Detroit/Chicago area that weekend, and we plan to have bashes in 
both 
> cities.
> 
> For more information, check us out here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes/
> 
> This list is for meeting and planning get-togethers for anyone who 
> lives in a state or province that touches the North American Great 
> Lakes, including but not limited to Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, 
> Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Ontario (Canada).  (Yes, 
> technically upstate New York, western Pennsylvania, and Quebec 
touch 
> the lakes as well, but they're more Eastern than anything else.)  
[Snip]




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 13:48:25 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:48:25 -0000
Subject: house ties
Message-ID: <aop3f9+chhs@eGroups.com>

I have a question.  I can't remember what color the Ravenclaw house 
tie is.  I looked at the crest, and there is some yellow in it, but 
is the tie that dark blue and light blue? Thanks for the help!!

Alora




From anise_leinen at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 13:51:34 2002
From: anise_leinen at yahoo.com (Catherine Danielson)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 06:51:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: I am shooting my movie today. 
In-Reply-To: <1034928286.376.24877.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021018135134.22493.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>


---Well, this is off topic if anything ever was. 
But, I'm starting my fall shoot today and I'm very
nervous. Wish me luck. Hey! It's not totally off
topic! I'm the one who's doing the HP Lego movie, beta
test to go into pre-production in November, shoot in
December. :) (This, however, is not it. But I wrote
the script while I was also writing fanfiction!)
Hopeful of good results, 
Anise





From ken.kuller at veritas.com  Fri Oct 18 14:13:28 2002
From: ken.kuller at veritas.com (Kenneth M. Kuller)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:13:28 -0000
Subject: Please tell me someone can make Bordeaux cookies!
In-Reply-To: <aoo0io+teho@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aop4u8+31tv@eGroups.com>

I'm usually pretty good about locating information on the 'web, but I 
came up dry this time.  Here are some "close" matches I found, 
recipes for other Pepperidge Farm cookies and taste-alikes.

Another resources you can try is the Home Economist at your local, up-
scale grocery store.  With thousands of recipes stashed away, these 
people usually have encyclopedic memories that will help them locate 
even the most obscure request.


* Pepperidge Farm Ginger Man Cookies
  http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/recipes/gingrman.htm

* Pepperidge Farm Milano Cookies 
  http://www.tastesalike.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=14
  http://www.recipezaar.com/38131?path=0110FD
  http://www.recipegoldmine.com/ccP/p57.html
  http://www.epicurious.com/HyperNews/get/archive_italofile201-
300/281/1.html

* Pepperidge Farm Sausalito Cookies
  http://www.tastesalike.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20
  http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/dessertex/msg0600102526970.html

* Gallagher's Gingerbread
  http://www.copykat.com/asp/copykatrecipe.asp?recipe=114




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" <jenP_97 at y...> wrote:
[Snip]
> I love Pepperidge Farm Bordeaux cookies.  
> More than I should, of course...  I think 
> it's the texture that really does it for 
> me.
> 
> Anyway, do any of you have a cookie recipe 
> for something similar?  I remember making 
> some really yummy crunchy oatmeal lace 
> cookies (Swedish in origin, I believe) when 
> I was in the 6th grade for a project, but 
> that recipe is long gone.  Besides, that 
> always turned out kinda chewy after a few 
> hours.
[Snip]




From ken.kuller at veritas.com  Fri Oct 18 14:16:34 2002
From: ken.kuller at veritas.com (Kenneth M. Kuller)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:16:34 -0000
Subject: house ties
In-Reply-To: <aop3f9+chhs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aop542+4cc2@eGroups.com>

Ravenclaw's colors are blue and bronze.

My source: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/ravenclaw.html

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> I have a question.  I can't remember what color the Ravenclaw house 
> tie is.  I looked at the crest, and there is some yellow in it, but 
> is the tie that dark blue and light blue? Thanks for the help!!
> 
> Alora




From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 14:22:48 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:22:48 -0000
Subject: house ties
In-Reply-To: <aop3f9+chhs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aop5fo+jheq@eGroups.com>

The movie uses slightly different colors.  They're 
ties/sweaters/scarves are made to be dark royal blue/silver.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> I have a question.  I can't remember what color the Ravenclaw house 
> tie is.  I looked at the crest, and there is some yellow in it, but 
> is the tie that dark blue and light blue? Thanks for the help!!
> 
> Alora




From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 14:22:47 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:22:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] house ties
In-Reply-To: <aop3f9+chhs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021018142247.70919.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>


I think the colors are dark blue and silver or bronze.  Dillards has a silver and blue striped tie and a bronze and blue striped tie in their Ralph Lauren line.( I found them on my quest for a Gryffindor tie!)  I think the price was around $40.
Kristi
 alora <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com> wrote:I have a question.  I can't remember what color the Ravenclaw house 
tie is.  I looked at the crest, and there is some yellow in it, but 
is the tie that dark blue and light blue? Thanks for the help!!

Alora


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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 14:25:53 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Any fellow Utahns?
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Cool!  I'm hanging out my upstairs window waving as we speak. I'd love to chat more but I am off to start making Hermione's skirt and a Sailor Moon costume.  Wish me luck!
Kristi in Utah
 Lilac <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com> wrote:
Subject: Any fellow Utahns?

Hi! I am Kristi, and I live in West Jordan, Utah.  Any
other 30+ HP fanatics out here?

__________________________________________________

Yes! <Lilac waves> I am (barely) 30+ and I live in SLC in the University section of town.  So, we're like practically neighbors.  I can almost see you waving at me across the Jordan River!  

~Lilac, whose Halloween costume consists of a Happy Halloween vest, a Frankenstein necklace and matching earrings that look like large screws going through my earlobes.  The first graders used to think they were real! 





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From kerelsen at quik.com  Fri Oct 18 18:33:43 2002
From: kerelsen at quik.com (Bernadette M. Crumb)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:33:43 -0400
Subject: PA listee checking in
Message-ID: <001b01c276d4$e3ff5120$9921b0d8@kerelsen>

Is there anyone else from the north central area of Pennsylvania?
I'm up near the New York State line south of Corning, NY in a
little town called Mansfield.  We're about an hour north of
Williamsport.

While I have my whole horde of kids to go to COS with, it sure
would be nice to get to go with another grownup who is as excited
about HP as I am.  My husband likes it, but he's nowhere as rabid
as I am!

Bernadette/RowanRhys
(another 40+ fan)
"Life's greatest happiness is to be convinced we are loved."
- Victor Hugo, Les Miserables, 1862





From kerelsen at quik.com  Fri Oct 18 18:39:54 2002
From: kerelsen at quik.com (Bernadette M. Crumb)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:39:54 -0400
Subject: Costume stuff:  Ties and Sweaters
Message-ID: <002301c276d5$c13ce3e0$9921b0d8@kerelsen>

I'm drooling over the Hermione Granger outfit... Couldn't afford
to bid on it unfortunately. *Sigh*

I'd give my eyeteeth to find out the source of that custom made
tie, though...  I've repaired my husband's ties often enough to
know that I don't particularly want to have to make one of my own
from scratch even assuming I could find the right kind of
fabric...

If any of you have a clue of where to find the plain gray Vneck
sweaters and the ties, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it.  I
live out in "boonieville" and finding them here is out of the
question.

Bernadette/RowanRhys

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 19:37:00 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:37:00 -0000
Subject: Costume stuff:  Ties and Sweaters
In-Reply-To: <002301c276d5$c13ce3e0$9921b0d8@kerelsen>
Message-ID: <aopnss+5eg2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Bernadette M. Crumb" <kerelsen at q...> 
wrote:
> I'm drooling over the Hermione Granger outfit... Couldn't afford
> to bid on it unfortunately. *Sigh*
> 
> I'd give my eyeteeth to find out the source of that custom made
> tie, though...  I've repaired my husband's ties often enough to
> know that I don't particularly want to have to make one of my own
> from scratch even assuming I could find the right kind of
> fabric...
> 
> If any of you have a clue of where to find the plain gray Vneck
> sweaters and the ties, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it.  I
> live out in "boonieville" and finding them here is out of the
> question.
> 
> Bernadette/RowanRhys


Bernadette,

I got my tie from the mail order company Land's End.  It is in the 
kids section of dress up clothes.  The tie was 16.00, with shipping 
it came to 20.50, I think.  It was originally on backorder (i wonder 
why?  any ideas? ;)) but it was shipped on Oct. 14th and I got it on 
the 16th.  Look online on their website!  I got a somewhat -v-neck 
from my local thrift store. It was the closest I could find to Harry 
and company's and I'm thinking by the time I put the tie with it, it 
will look fine. No burgundy and gold trim around the neckline, but 
hey!  You can't have it all, can you?  Unless you get in the middle 
of all those e-bay bidders fighting it out for that outfit.  What's 
it up to now? 160.00?  yikes!

Alora




From speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 18 21:22:10 2002
From: speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com (frankielee242)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 21:22:10 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday times 3!
In-Reply-To: <20021016150050.51958.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aopu22+42ot@eGroups.com>

Hold on, I've got a pitch-pipe somewhere... *fweee*

Alalalalalalalaaaaa...

Haaaaaaaappy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday
dear Nethilia, Katze and Rowan! Haaaaaaaaaaaaappy birthday
toooooo-OOOOOO YOOOOOooooooooou!!

Hope you guys all had a great time on your birthday. It's the day the
world gained *YOU*!  =)


Frankie, somewhat late




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 21:53:38 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:53:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: If you seek a pleasant peninsula...
In-Reply-To: <aoovl9+10ko8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021018215338.51604.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony"
> <selah_1977 at y...> wrote:
> > I also own the HP4GU-GreatLakes list.  We're
> planning for a get-
> > together on the 15th... soon-to-be Chicagoan Josh
> will descend on 
> the 
> > Detroit/Chicago area that weekend, and we plan to
> have bashes in 
> both 
> > cities.
> > 
> > For more information, check us out here:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes/
> > 
> > This list is for meeting and planning
> get-togethers for anyone who 
> > lives in a state or province that touches the
> North American Great 
> > Lakes, including but not limited to Michigan,
> Ohio, Illinois, 
> > Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Ontario
> (Canada).  (Yes, 
> > technically upstate New York, western
> Pennsylvania, and Quebec 
> touch 
> > the lakes as well, but they're more Eastern than
> anything else.)  

I wish I could join you all. :( Think of me while
you're having fun, I'll be one of those unhappy folks
selling people tickets instead of seeing the movie.

Since I'm a card carrying member of LOON, it's my duty
to point out that Quebec doesn't even come close to
touching the Great Lakes (though we're happy to
pretend they do if anyone from Quebec wants to be part
of our little family here). :-D

Sheryll

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From zeff8 at attbi.com  Fri Oct 18 23:04:13 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:04:13 -0400
Subject: Photos of my costume, V Neck Sweaters.
References: <aonq3s+q1n2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <013801c276fa$ae041580$1204f50c@attbi.com>

Hey Alora, and Filmgeek (aka Amy), where can we find those V neck sweaters?
I recognize the Email addy, and Ebay photos.. I just got one of those ties..
but I desperatly need an adult XL large sweater.. Any ideas?


----- Original Message -----
From: "alora" <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:02 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Photos of my costume!


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "filmgeek20" <sky14381 at y...> wrote:
> > Ok y'all, here is what my costume somewhat looks like:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=725451481
> >
> > The only difference is, my robe was custom made to be longer (with
> an
> > embroidered patch) and I might not embroider the neckline again
> (it
> > took so long!).  The reason why I might not embroider my neckline
> is
> > because I might want to go as a Ravenclaw instead of a
> Gryffindor. :)
> > Oh well...we'll see...I might just get an additional grey sweater
> and
> > embroider that also!
>
> Wow!  That looks fabulous.  My costume looks almost the same, except
> that I don't have the gold/burgundy embroidery on the v-neck.
> *sigh*  I'll just have to live without it, I guess. If I was to try
> and embroider, how would I go about doing it?  Does anyone here know
> how?  I sew a bit, but not embroidery.
>
> Alora
>
>
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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 19 00:43:34 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 00:43:34 -0000
Subject: Fabrics
Message-ID: <aoq9rm+81ph@eGroups.com>

I know, I know, I am late for all the costume talk, but Alora has
inspired me to make a costume so she won't be the sole person in the
DFW area to go to the movie as a Hogwart's girl...

So, now that I have the pattern and borrowed a sewing machine, what
fabric should I use to make this robe?

If you look, well actually study the CoS poster book closely, the
picture of Ron with his broken wand has a close up to the texture.  It
looks like a loose weave wool with a little felting.  So, is the
fabric wool?  I love the weight of the robes in the movie, so is it
best to use just wool, or would a poly-blend suiting fabric also work
with some satisfaction?

I know I am being *extremely* picky, but I want this to look nice and
last for another six movies premiers, the next three books waiting
lines, and the odd need to dress Potter style.

Also, it is *IMPOSSIBLE* to find a gray pleated skirt.  Grrrrr.
Seems, I will be making one of those as well.  Any suggestions?

This is so much fun though.  Found gray knees socks and Black Mary
Janes yesterday.  :)  They really nail down that skirt-girl look.

Seems, though, I need to rethink my opinions of costumed Star Wars and
Star Trek fans.  They don't seem so insane anymore.  :)

Melody




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 01:06:07 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 21:06:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Katherine!
Message-ID: <20021019010607.72312.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com>

*saunters around the room putting last minute touches
on all the decorations*

Today's birthday honouree is Katherine. Her birthday
wishes can be sent care of this list.

Katherine, I hope your day was filled with fun and
magic.

Happy Birthday, Katherine!

Sheryll

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 02:14:09 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:14:09 -0000
Subject: Fabrics
In-Reply-To: <aoq9rm+81ph@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoqf5h+m3gq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> I know, I know, I am late for all the costume talk, but Alora has
> inspired me to make a costume so she won't be the sole person in 
the
> DFW area to go to the movie as a Hogwart's girl...
> 
> So, now that I have the pattern and borrowed a sewing machine, what
> fabric should I use to make this robe?
> 
> If you look, well actually study the CoS poster book closely, the
> picture of Ron with his broken wand has a close up to the 
texture.  It
> looks like a loose weave wool with a little felting.  So, is the
> fabric wool?  I love the weight of the robes in the movie, so is it
> best to use just wool, or would a poly-blend suiting fabric also 
work
> with some satisfaction?
> 
> I know I am being *extremely* picky, but I want this to look nice 
and
> last for another six movies premiers, the next three books waiting
> lines, and the odd need to dress Potter style.
> 
> Also, it is *IMPOSSIBLE* to find a gray pleated skirt.  Grrrrr.
> Seems, I will be making one of those as well.  Any suggestions?
> 
> This is so much fun though.  Found gray knees socks and Black Mary
> Janes yesterday.  :)  They really nail down that skirt-girl look.
> 
> Seems, though, I need to rethink my opinions of costumed Star Wars 
and
> Star Trek fans.  They don't seem so insane anymore.  :)
> 
> Melody

Go, Melody!!!  isn't this fun?  I know that I am no good at fabrics, 
but I do know that every time I go to a thrift store, there's a grey 
pleated skirt.  Mind you, the one I got is a tad too small in the 
waist, but no one will see that it's not buttoned at the top :D!! 
Hehehe.  There are two thrift stores in Lewisville if you need to 
stop in there and look - that's where I found mine. 

I also loved your comment on the "odd need to dress potter style"!  
Cracked me up, it did.  Have fun!!

Alora 




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Sat Oct 19 02:39:18 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:39:18 -0400
Subject: Adult size sweaters..
Message-ID: <003e01c27718$b9493ba0$1204f50c@attbi.com>

Well, I am looking for one, with the trim and everything.. SO I posted my
"want ad" at a local sewing shop, this afternoon.. Maybe I can get one of
the home makers to make me one..




<==>Looking for a Hp 4 adults VOICE chat room,any one know of any? Other
than yahoo?





From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 09:25:15 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: We can't all be Hermione! (was Utahns in costumes)
Message-ID: <20021019092515.9056.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com>


Subject: Re: Re:Utahns in Costume

Lilac (me) Wrote:

>~Lilac, whose Halloween costume consists of a Happy Halloween vest, a 
>Frankenstein necklace and matching earrings that look like large 
screws 
>going through my earlobes.  The first graders used to think they were 
real!


Gail wrote:


<<<Hey man...what ever happened to wizard robes?  I thought ALL of us were 
going as Hermione? :)>>>


I know, I know...my son is the token HP this year, and I've been focusing on getting everything for *his* costume.  I got a kids dracula cloak...not a robe, but it will work nonetheless.  Daddy has a really old and tacky red tie that I'm going to hot-glue
gold felt stripes on for Gryffindor colors.  My son is blond, so I mentioned he might want to go as Malfoy, but he just gave me a weird look.  So I bought a can of temp hair paint in black.  We're sanding and staining a nice stick for the wand.  Had to wait for payday so we can go to "D.I." (Deseret Industries, a very large thrift store with Utah roots...Kristi can vouch for that), which I hope to do tomorrow.  I'm still working on the white oxford, grey sweater and pants.  


No, I don't live vicariously through my children...whatever are you talking about?

Now, while we're out, if I can find some stuff for me, I might be Ginny.  I've been thinking about coloring my hair lately...I'm one of those lucky ones that has premature greying in my family tree, and I've been highlighting my brown hair to try to hide the little buggers, but now it's time do an all-over thing.  Like auburn. :-)  

I love my Frankenstein earrings, though!  They're my Halloween tradition!  I'd probably wear them with the Ginny outfit.

If I can't pull together a Ginny outfit before Halloween, I'll try to do it for the movie.  My son and I are going on the 15th.  What do you think...a 3 1/2 foot tall Harry and a 5'6" Ginny?    



 

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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Sat Oct 19 10:25:24 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 10:25:24 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: The BFG
Message-ID: <176C96B23E2@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

I read The BFG last night.  I LOVED it.  So adorable.  I 
think it's probably my favorite of Dahl's so far.  The play 
on words was fantastic.  And the very last line was so very 
sweet and SO unexpected.

Next is Matilda.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
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I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From ken.kuller at veritas.com  Sat Oct 19 15:17:04 2002
From: ken.kuller at veritas.com (Kenneth M. Kuller)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:17:04 -0000
Subject: Trailers, Clips, Interviews
Message-ID: <aort1g+3bl6@eGroups.com>

The trailer for "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," and all 
other current multimedia, is available at 
http://us.imdb.com/Trailers?0295297 .




From kdavison at shreve.net  Sat Oct 19 15:19:33 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 10:19:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] We can't all be Hermione! (was Utahns in costumes)
References: <20021019092515.9056.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005401c27782$eeec1ba0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Both of my boys are blonde, but the oldest wears glasses, so he gets to be
Harry.  :-)  The youngest is much more blonde, and I thought about making a
Malfoy costume for him, but decided hair color wasn't that important.  I
have auburn hair, and in the future, if my sister wants to dress up with me
(she is another HP freak and has brown hair, but this year she can't go
because she'll be away at school, and can't get home on a Thursday) she can
be Hermione and I will be Ginny.  She was so upset that she couldn't go this
year, but she has an EVENING test on Halloween (can you imagine!?) so she
can't skip to come home early.  So anyway, we will be a 5'4" Hermione with
auburn hair, an *almost* 4 foot tall Harry with dark blonde hair, and an
*almost* 3 foot tall Ron with baby fine blonde hair!  LOL  But, our costumes
look awesome, so I don't think anyone else will care!  :-)  How old is your
son?  Mine are 5 and 2.
:-)  Davison, Texas gal, newbie, and I think this is my 2nd post, or maybe
3rd?  LOL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lilac" <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com>
 My son is blond, so I mentioned he might want to go as Malfoy, but he just
gave me a weird look.  So I bought a can of temp hair paint in black.
> If I can't pull together a Ginny outfit before Halloween, I'll try to do
it for the movie.  My son and I are going on the 15th.  What do you
think...a 3 1/2 foot tall Harry and a 5'6" Ginny?
>






From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 16:42:15 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] We can't all be Hermione! (was Utahns in costumes)
In-Reply-To: <005401c27782$eeec1ba0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <20021019164215.53818.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Kimberly Davison <kdavison at shreve.net> wrote:
Both of my boys are blonde, but the oldest wears glasses, so he gets to be
Harry.  :-)  The youngest is much more blonde, and I thought about making a
Malfoy costume for him, but decided hair color wasn't that important.  I
have auburn hair, and in the future, if my sister wants to dress up with me
(she is another HP freak and has brown hair, but this year she can't go
because she'll be away at school, and can't get home on a Thursday) she can
be Hermione and I will be Ginny.  She was so upset that she couldn't go this
year, but she has an EVENING test on Halloween (can you imagine!?) so she
can't skip to come home early.  So anyway, we will be a 5'4" Hermione with
auburn hair, an *almost* 4 foot tall Harry with dark blonde hair, and an
*almost* 3 foot tall Ron with baby fine blonde hair!  LOL  But, our costumes
look awesome, so I don't think anyone else will care!  :-)  How old is your
son?  Mine are 5 and 2.
:-)  Davison, Texas gal, newbie, and I think this is my 2nd post, or maybe
3rd?  LOL


Hey!  I'm a native Texan, born and raised, but,sadly, I don't live there now. I do think the three of you will look smashing no matter what color your hair is!

Kristi from Utah
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From rw7238 at netzero.net  Sat Oct 19 21:04:52 2002
From: rw7238 at netzero.net (Wanda Mallett)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:04:52 -0000
Subject: Yahoo hijinks no outgoing email and Belated Happy Birthday Katherine
Message-ID: <aoshdk+dedb@eGroups.com>

Well, needless to say I have to read the posts from the site and 
reply from the site because yahoo no longer will let you reply or 
forward or just post any out-going emails! So until my husband 
refigures his out look express, I had to send this by way of the 
site! Wonderful that I didn't know until this morning! But that is 
yahoo! In order to send OUT email you have to purchase a program for 
$29.99. Well, enough on that, everybody with a yahoo mailbox will 
know what happened by now.

A much happier note! HAPPY BIRTHDAY KATHERINE! I sent a message up 
to Sheryll to pass along to you but I have no doubt she is having a 
problem with Yahoo too.

May you have more party time with my belated Birthday Wish for you! 
Hope you got lots of HP stuff! May you have more emails to keep the 
party going! Have a great Birthday!

Schnoogles,

Wanda the *B*Witch of Revere,Massachusetts and Her Very Merry Band 
of Muggles 100%! 




From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Sat Oct 19 23:56:05 2002
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 23:56:05 -0000
Subject: Yahoo hijinks no outgoing email 
In-Reply-To: <aoshdk+dedb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aosrel+lfgn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Wanda Mallett" <rw7238 at n...> wrote:
> Well, needless to say I have to read the posts from the
> site and reply from the site because yahoo no longer will
> let you reply or forward or just post any out-going emails!
> So until my husband refigures his out look express, I had to
> send this by way of the site! Wonderful that I didn't know
> until this morning! But that is yahoo! In order to send OUT
> email you have to purchase a program or $29.99. 

Well, you can still read, reply, send, and forward mail from the 
Yahoo!Mail-site ( http://mail.yahoo.com ) - I done it several times, 
and it seems to work just fine for me.  It's accessing the thing with 
POP3-programmes (like Outlook Express) that requires paying.  

Best regards
Christian Stub?




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 00:01:18 2002
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:01:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Help deciding on a great part from HP
Message-ID: <20021020000118.35116.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>

Richelle wrote:

> Help!  I've decided it might be nice to read a
> portion from one of the HP books 
> when I do the "literary festival" thing on
> Halloween (i.e. dress up as Hermione 
> Granger!)  What scene would be really vivid
when
> read aloud? That involves 
> Hermione?  That a four year old could
> comprehend?  Yes, I'm asking a lot.  
> Which is why I'm asking, if it were that simple
> I could think of it myself. :)  
> It also needs to be able to be understood on
its
> own with no working knowledge 
> of HP, other than perhaps the movie.  Most kids
> around here seem to have seen it.

Why don't you let the occasion/theme limit the
possibilities?  If you take materials not solely
revolving around Hermione into consideration,
your kids would probably love hearing about
Halloween as the WW celebrates it.  The
descriptions of the various Halloween feasts
might outdo the kids' real-life Halloweens but
what fun!

Or you can do a list of wizarding candies...sort
of a what-treats-might-Harry-get if he goes
trick-or-treating in the American WW.  Candy corn
would surely pale in comparison.  If you go with
this, you can hand out some "Bertie Bott's Every
Flavor Beans" and add audience participation by
having the kids' report on what flavor they think
they got.  I'll bet at least one kid will insist
s/he got a vomit flavored one.  :)

I like all the other suggestions too but
considering the age of your audience, something
to do with the treats that is undoubtedly
associated with Halloween in the tiny tots' minds
would serve your purpose very well, I should
think.

Petra
a
n  :)

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 20 03:40:05 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 03:40:05 -0000
Subject: dyed skirts
In-Reply-To: <aoqf5h+m3gq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aot8il+4nrh@eGroups.com>

Alora suggested:
>>I know that I am no good at fabrics, but I do know that every time I
go to a thrift store, there's a grey pleated skirt.<<<


I have to tell you this story you inspired.

Well I took your advice and popped into my local thrift store.  An
interesting place to say that least, but I did find a lovely light
gray pleated skirt.  The fabric is a wool crepe so it is a not exactly
the perfect look but has the exactly size pleats as the Hogwart's
skirts.  So, I keep flipping through the rack with the gray skirt
balanced on my arm.  A few skirts later, I found the perfect Hogwart's
girl skirt complete with correct sized pleats, right length, and the
stitching of the pleats half down.  The only problem was that the
skirt was a dark blue and green plaid.  So I thought, "Hmmm, no
problem there.  I'll just take a leaf out of Petunia's book and dye
the thing light gray."  I skipped up to the counter and bought both,
need to have a back-up if this dye job is a really bad idea and
besides they were both $3.

So I stop on the way home to get the dye remover to get out the blue
and green, the gray dye to color it, and a big pot to accomplish this
feat.  Giddy as everything at my luck today, I think I did not expect
the process to take so long.  Granted, the removal of the previous dye
and then dyeing part was not hard, but you have to stir the thing for
30 minutes *constantly* for both sessions.  Did you know if you stir 3
gallons of water with a wooden spoon for a full hour *constantly*, you
arm will being to seize up and take your shoulder with it?  It became
a product of sheer will power to stir that pot.  I tried to envision
that perfect *gray* Hogwart's skirt to keep me going.  When time was
up, I managed to get the pot to the sink without getting the dye all
over my stove, floor, and counter.  Quite proud of that.  Whether or
not the skirt is light gray or not is still left to be said, but my
wooden spoon is a lovely shade of gray.  :)

So now, my freshly dyed skirt is wrapped up in a towel on my counter.
 I am not sure if it worked, but I will keep you posted.

Melody
Who wonder why Petunia thought it would be easier to dye Harry's
uniform rather than just get new ones.  




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Sun Oct 20 05:04:24 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 01:04:24 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] dyed skirts
References: <aot8il+4nrh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000901c277f6$2877df80$1204f50c@attbi.com>

You could also try the local sewing shops.. and let them know what you
want..
They might be able to find some homemaker sewer who would be willing to make
you one, if you paid them, and provided the materials, as I am doing..
Simplicty makes a great pattern that anyone can follow.. if I had a machine,
I could make one too. But I build Plastic Injection dies, not make
clothing.. LOL..


----- Original Message -----
From: "Melody" <Malady579 at hotmail.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:40 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] dyed skirts


> Alora suggested:
> >>I know that I am no good at fabrics, but I do know that every time I
> go to a thrift store, there's a grey pleated skirt.<<<
>
>
> I have to tell you this story you inspired.
>
> Well I took your advice and popped into my local thrift store.  An
> interesting place to say that least, but I did find a lovely light
> gray pleated skirt.  The fabric is a wool crepe so it is a not exactly
> the perfect look but has the exactly size pleats as the Hogwart's
> skirts.  So, I keep flipping through the rack with the gray skirt
> balanced on my arm.  A few skirts later, I found the perfect Hogwart's
> girl skirt complete with correct sized pleats, right length, and the
> stitching of the pleats half down.  The only problem was that the
> skirt was a dark blue and green plaid.  So I thought, "Hmmm, no
> problem there.  I'll just take a leaf out of Petunia's book and dye
> the thing light gray."  I skipped up to the counter and bought both,
> need to have a back-up if this dye job is a really bad idea and
> besides they were both $3.
>
> So I stop on the way home to get the dye remover to get out the blue
> and green, the gray dye to color it, and a big pot to accomplish this
> feat.  Giddy as everything at my luck today, I think I did not expect
> the process to take so long.  Granted, the removal of the previous dye
> and then dyeing part was not hard, but you have to stir the thing for
> 30 minutes *constantly* for both sessions.  Did you know if you stir 3
> gallons of water with a wooden spoon for a full hour *constantly*, you
> arm will being to seize up and take your shoulder with it?  It became
> a product of sheer will power to stir that pot.  I tried to envision
> that perfect *gray* Hogwart's skirt to keep me going.  When time was
> up, I managed to get the pot to the sink without getting the dye all
> over my stove, floor, and counter.  Quite proud of that.  Whether or
> not the skirt is light gray or not is still left to be said, but my
> wooden spoon is a lovely shade of gray.  :)
>
> So now, my freshly dyed skirt is wrapped up in a towel on my counter.
>  I am not sure if it worked, but I will keep you posted.
>
> Melody
> Who wonder why Petunia thought it would be easier to dye Harry's
> uniform rather than just get new ones.
>
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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 09:15:56 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:15:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: We Can't All Be Hermione! (was Costumes in Utah)
Message-ID: <20021020091556.29877.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>


Welcome and Hello to Davison, Texas gal, newbie, and she thinks this is her 2nd post, or maybe 3rd!

<<<So anyway, we will be a 5'4" Hermione with
auburn hair, an *almost* 4 foot tall Harry with dark blonde hair, and 
an *almost* 3 foot tall Ron with baby fine blonde hair!  LOL  But, our 
costumes look awesome, so I don't think anyone else will care!  :-)  How old is 
your son?  Mine are 5 and 2.
:-)   LOL>>>

I think that sounds wonderful!  No one will care, not one bit.  

I am jealous that you have auburn hair.  My best friend growing up had red hair and I always loved it, and now that my gray hairs are multiplying in packs around my temples, I get to be a red head too!  It should go with hazel-green eyes, don't you think?  I'm a little nervous as I have only done very little coloring to my hair (only a shade lighter) and auburn will be a big step.  Maybe I can find a good in-between color.  

My son is 6, and he is probably taller than 3'6", but I just estimated.  My 2 year old daughter wanted to be a butterfly, so I found these great wings that strap on and a head band with antennae. 

I can't wait to see everyone's Halloween pictures!

Lilac 





 

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 20 16:20:07 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:20:07 -0000
Subject: dyed skirts
In-Reply-To: <000901c277f6$2877df80$1204f50c@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <aoul3n+p6uu@eGroups.com>

zeff8 wrote:
>>You could also try the local sewing shops.. and let them know what
you want..They might be able to find some homemaker sewer who would be
willing to make you one, if you paid them, and provided the materials,
as I am doing..  Simplicity makes a great pattern that anyone can
follow.. if I had a machine, I could make one too.<<


Well, I might have to make my own since my little dye job did not turn
out so well.  The skirt is now a more subtle blue and green plaid
skirt that looks a little gray.  It's not completely destroyed, so I
might be able to wear it for something else.  So I am back to
searching and possibly making one.  I did find some fabric that was
the right color and weight.  Too bad they did not have it in black, or
I would be making my robes right now.

What Simplicity pattern number was it though?  I looked through the
books but did not see one that had the right pleats.

As for dying dark colored skirts to light gray, I would not recommend
it.  :)

Melody







From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 22:46:13 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Coca-Cola 12 packs
In-Reply-To: <20021020091556.29877.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021020224613.70029.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>


Has anyone in the Salt Lake area seen the 12 packs of Coke with the HP promotional stuff? I've only been able to find the 2 liter bottles.

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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Oct 21 00:23:23 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:23:23 -0000
Subject: dyed skirts //SIMPLICITY
In-Reply-To: <aoul3n+p6uu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovhdr+sgu8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:

> Well, I might have to make my own since my little dye job did not
> turn out so well.  The skirt is now a more subtle blue and green 
> plaid skirt that looks a little gray.  

> 
> What Simplicity pattern number was it though?  I looked through the
> books but did not see one that had the right pleats.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/11880 says:
"I got me Simplicity pattern 0614, "Costumes for Adults" where there 
is a pattern for a tunic, a robe with long billowy sleeves and a 
smart witches/wizards hat that has a cute little crik at the top. You 
can see a picture of it here:

http://www.simplicity.com/s4index.htm

Under Catalog, 'click' "Costumes"
Then, on the right, 'click' on "Adults"
4 'clicks' on the "next page" icon will take you there... it's marked 
#9887...you can't miss it. #9891 is also shown there...nice, very 
feminine (if you want to go that route)."

Quite a few patterns include a witch or wizard robe and pointy hat 
among their options.
#5851 - witch in mini-dress with mini-cloak and pointy hat
#5916 - wizard in solid-front robe and pointy hat
#8311 - wizard in long tunic, open-front robe, and pointy hat
#8311 - witch in chiffon party dress and pointy hat
in addition to children's versions of most of the above, children 
pattern #9372 is their idea of Harry Potter (before the movie)

 




From jori at netroenterprises.com  Mon Oct 21 00:37:37 2002
From: jori at netroenterprises.com (Jori)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:37:37 -0000
Subject: We can't all be Hermione! (was Utahns in costumes)
In-Reply-To: <20021019092515.9056.qmail@web40306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aovi8h+2kj9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Lilac <lilac_bearry at y...> wrote:
> 

> 
> No, I don't live vicariously through my children...whatever are you
talking about?
> 

Speaking of living vicariously through the kiddo, I just finished his
Gryffindor Quidditch robe and I'm so excited! He, on the other hand,
pointed out that he doesn't look like Harry Potter (I told him he
could be Oliver Wood if that was his big problem) and then he reminded
me that it will be incredibly hot on Halloween (we live in S. Florida
and it's always hot on Halloween.) I told him to just be glad I wasn't
making him wear a Gryffindor sweater underneath it though I stil have
to find something to go underneath. He's probably be a Quidditch
player in a robe, shorts and a t-shirt. I only wish people dressed up
for the movies around here because that was an awful lot of work for
him to go trick or treating for twenty minutes. 

Jori 





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 01:44:39 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:44:39 -0000
Subject: oh, Melody!
Message-ID: <aovm67+956b@eGroups.com>

Melody, I am so sorry about that dyed skirt!  You know, you are 
braver than me.  Before I found a black college grad robe, the only 
one I had found was a deep burgundy one that fit perfect.  I went 
all over the thrift store asking little old ladies if they thought 
it would dye down to black, hehe.  Of course, they told me no! 
*LOL*  I really considered it, but I chickened out.  I do have to 
say, though, you made me giggle when I read that first post of 
yours.  Keep looking!  I know you will find a skirt.  If you want, I 
can keep an eye out for a skirt for you, as I am out-and-about quite 
a bit.  E-mail me if you want to.  

Oh, and has anyone else seen what that costume on e-bay is going 
for?!  It's almost 300 dollars!  Whew!! :O

Anyone know of a store where I could get a clasp for the front of my 
robe?  

Alora




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 21 02:00:11 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:00:11 -0000
Subject: oh, Melody!
In-Reply-To: <aovm67+956b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovn3b+kop8@eGroups.com>

Alora wrote:
>>>I do have to say, though, you made me giggle when I read that first
post of yours.  Keep looking!  I know you will find a skirt.  If you
want, I can keep an eye out for a skirt for you, as I am out-and-about
quite a bit.  E-mail me if you want to.<<<

Glad I am entertaining someone.  :)  Actually, I was going to drive
around to shops in Lewisville after work tomorrow.  I am still on the
search for black wool, and since we do live in Texas, it is hard to
find.  I was going to stop by the secondhand stores looking for skirts
as well, but if you find one please email me as to where.  This
blasted skirt is somewhere in Texas.


>>>Anyone know of a store where I could get a clasp for the front of
my robe?<<<

After long study of the CoS poster book once again, I've decided that
the clasps are really extremely easy to make.  It looks like two cut
pieces of felt and two self-covered buttons should do the trick.  Oh
with a loop to go around the buttons for one or each side.  Since
there are two such clasps for the robe, it should hold well.  It
should also be easy to hand sew the simple felt on the robe and the
self-covered buttons are an easy little gadget you can get at any
fabric shop.  Extremely cheap too.  Or you could by already made
buttons also.  Don't want to throw that option out.  I think Richelle
said she was using frog to close hers.  Those will look quite nice too.

I you really want a pre-made clasp...
When I got the kid's Halloween outfit, a clasp came with it.  So if
you just want to go that route, I say stop at Target.

Melody
Who is determined to find this illusive skirt if she has to drive all
over DFW to do so.  Nothing like the search.




From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Oct 21 02:08:55 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:08:55 -0000
Subject: dyed skirts //SIMPLICITY
In-Reply-To: <aovhdr+sgu8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovnjn+iblv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" wrote: 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> 
> > Well, I might have to make my own since my little dye job did not
> > turn out so well.  The skirt is now a more subtle blue and green 
> > plaid skirt that looks a little gray.  
> 
> > 
> > What Simplicity pattern number was it though?  I looked through
> > the books but did not see one that had the right pleats.
> 
Stupid Catlady! I didn't notice that you were looking for SKIRT 
patterns, Zeff8 having said that Simplicity makes an easy one. I 
personally doubt the existence of an easy, pleasted (oxymoron!) 
skirt pattern, but the ONLY pleated skirt pattern I found in on-line 
catalog was Design 8680, which isn't really the same as the uniform 
skirt.






From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 21 03:18:46 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:18:46 -0000
Subject: dyed skirts //SIMPLICITY
In-Reply-To: <aovnjn+iblv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovrmm+4ije@eGroups.com>

Catlady wrote:
> Stupid Catlady! I didn't notice that you were looking for SKIRT
> patterns, Zeff8 having said that Simplicity makes an easy one. I
> personally doubt the existence of an easy, pleasted (oxymoron!)
> skirt pattern, but the ONLY pleated skirt pattern I found in on-line
> catalog was Design 8680, which isn't really the same as the uniform
> skirt.


I was wondering whether I wrote it wrong to begin with.  Isn't a
pleated skirt just a length of fabric that is hemmed at the bottom,
pressed into desired length pleats, then sew partially down the
pleats, and finally sew a waist band to the skirt.  Well add a zipper
and button as well, but is that all really?  Yes time consuming, but
not really needed a pattern per say?  Am I over simplifying it?
Probably am.  I think I'll just stick with searching the land of Texas
for now.  I can manage the straight sewing of the robe, but the skirt
takes more patience and exact measurements.

Melody




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 21 03:33:29 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:33:29 -0000
Subject: Wait you can have mine
In-Reply-To: <aovn3b+kop8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovsi9+9irc@eGroups.com>

Alora asked:
>>>Anyone know of a store where I could get a clasp for the front of
my robe?<<<

Alora, hey since I did buy that kid's costume for the patch, I have no
plans for the clasp on it.  You can have it if you want.  I feel like
an idiot for not remembering it before.  I plan to make my own to look
like the movie.  So if you want it, you can have it.

Melody





From waterdogn at aol.com  Mon Oct 21 02:31:28 2002
From: waterdogn at aol.com (waterdogn)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:31:28 -0000
Subject: Hermione skirt in catalog
In-Reply-To: <aovnjn+iblv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovou0+g3lg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" 
<catlady at w...> wrote:
> > 
> Stupid Catlady! I didn't notice that you were looking for SKIRT 
> patterns, Zeff8 having said that Simplicity makes an easy one. I 
> personally doubt the existence of an easy, pleasted (oxymoron!) 
> skirt pattern, but the ONLY pleated skirt pattern I found in on-
line 
> catalog was Design 8680, which isn't really the same as the uniform 
> skirt.

Hi all-

I just noticed a skirt in the Bedford Fair catalog that looks like it 
comes pretty close to the uniform skirt:

http://www.bfair.com/pagebuilder/Item?item=11460

Not cheap at $29.99, but it might be an option for the sewing-
impaired or if you strike out at the thrift shops.

Boy, would that I showed this much creativity at work! <g>

Robin Nicholls
Waterdogn @ aol.com
Southern California





From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 16:39:39 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] We can't all be Hermione! and Dyed skirts
In-Reply-To: <005401c27782$eeec1ba0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <20021021163939.56665.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com>

Kimberly Davidson wrote:
> I have auburn hair, and in the future, if my sister wants to dress up with me
> (she is another HP freak and has brown hair, but this year she can't go
> because she'll be away at school, and can't get home on a Thursday) she can
> be Hermione and I will be Ginny.

Or you could be Lily and Petunia, if your sister is really skinny.  As a side
note, repeat after me: "I'm a *fan*, not a freak; I'm a *fan*, not a freak..."

And poor Melody wrote with great difficulty using her good arm:
> you have to stir the thing for
> 30 minutes *constantly* for both sessions.  Did you know if you stir 3
> gallons of water with a wooden spoon for a full hour *constantly*, you
> arm will being to seize up and take your shoulder with it?
<snip>
> Melody
> Who wonder why Petunia thought it would be easier to dye Harry's
> uniform rather than just get new ones.

Well, you only have to stir the pot if you care whether or not it turns out
splotchy, and I'm guessing that the splotchier Harry's clothes are, the happier
Petunia will be. ;->

For the future reference of anybody who wants to dye something, I've used the
washing machine method a couple of times with good success (after using the pot
method and then needing 3 days to recover the use of my arm :-) ).  You use the
"small" load size and hot water, and toward the end of the agitation cycle,
open the lid so that it doesn't rinse right away.  The drawback is that my
smallest load size on my washer uses quite a bit more water than the pot
method, so if you want a dark color you will probably have to use 2 packages of
dye.  I also make it a point to either run the washer empty before washing
clothes, or make sure that the next load I do is dark colors.  I haven't
stained anything... yet.

Sherry


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From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 17:31:10 2002
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: dyed skirts
In-Reply-To: <aoul3n+p6uu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021021173110.67617.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

Melody wrote:
> As for dying dark colored skirts to light gray, I would not recommend
> it.  :)

In my last post about using the washing machine method for dyeing, I should
also point out that while this method saves wear and tear on your arms, it
would not be any more successful than what Melody got.  The only way it could
be more successful is by allowing you to leave it in the dye-removing bath
longer because it doesn't kill your arm.  You could try a strong solution of
regular chlorine bleach to remove the original color, although it might damage
the fibers (not such a huge risk if you are doing it on a $3 thrift-store skirt
and you have a backup).  Also, dyes tend to work best on cotton or cotton
blends.

In reading these posts, I'm starting to think it's a good thing I'm moving and
don't have time to mess with this at all, because I would be driving myself
crazy just like the rest of you.  Of course, it's killing me not to do
anything, so this weekend I tried the dark T-shirt inkjet iron ons.  I made a
red T-shirt with a Gryffindor emblem for my son, and a royal blue T-shirt with
a Ravenclaw emblem for my daughter (BIG pain in the neck; the Ravenclaw emblem
I found has the bird's wing feathers extending beyond the crest, so I had to
cut around each feather, and then they didn't want to adhere to the fabric so I
had to iron it 4 times).  I told my daughter that I made her a Ravenclaw
because that's where all the smart kids go (the real reason was because of the
available selection of T-shirt colors, plus the fact that Gryffindor is getting
a bit cliche :-P ).

Sherry


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From kdavison at shreve.net  Mon Oct 21 18:44:44 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:44:44 -0500
Subject: We can't all be Hermione! (Kristi, Lilac, Sherry)
References: <20021019164215.53818.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c27931$ed486be0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristi Smith" <kristilynn5 at yahoo.com>
> Hey!  I'm a native Texan, born and raised, but,sadly, I don't live there
now. I do think the three of you will look smashing no matter what color
your hair is!

Me:  Thanks Kristi.  My sister's name is Kristi, too, spelled the same way,
and that is very unusual, you are the only other Kristi I've ever seen spell
it that way!  :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lilac" <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com>
>I get to be a red head too!  It should go with hazel-green eyes, don't you
think?

Me:  Lilac, I think that auburn will go wonderful with your eyes.  Mine are
brownish-green.  :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sherry Garfio" <sgarfio at yahoo.com>
> Or you could be Lily and Petunia, if your sister is really skinny.  As a
side
> note, repeat after me: "I'm a *fan*, not a freak; I'm a *fan*, not a
freak..."

Me:  Oooh, that is so funny, she is thin, but I do NOT think she would go
for being Petunia, LOL, she wants a robe and wand to play with just like me!
:-)
I am a fan, not a freak...  LOL  Well, I use freak in the most affectionate
way!  :-)








From kokobreen at juno.com  Mon Oct 21 21:28:47 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokopoko2000)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:28:47 -0000
Subject: Draco Malfoy's online journal
Message-ID: <ap1rif+ids2@eGroups.com>

Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online diary!
http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks

I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments as 
Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his diary 
entries.

Someone has too much time on their hands but I think it's great!

Christine





From zorb47 at cox.net  Mon Oct 21 22:21:49 2002
From: zorb47 at cox.net (zorb47)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:21:49 -0000
Subject: Draco Malfoy's online journal
In-Reply-To: <ap1rif+ids2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap1ult+5mas@eGroups.com>

Actually, that particular LiveJournal is part of a large (and 
fabulous) RPG community.  The main page is 
http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley - you can see all the 
participants' entries there and on the friends ("Denizens") page.

-Zorb, not a denizen, but a big fan

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "kokopoko2000" <kokobreen at j...> wrote:
> Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online diary!
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks
> 
> I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments as 
> Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his diary 
> entries.
> 
> Someone has too much time on their hands but I think it's great!
> 
> Christine




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Mon Oct 21 22:58:02 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:58:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: dyed skirts //SIMPLICITY
References: <aovnjn+iblv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01a901c27955$4f4b2120$1204f50c@attbi.com>

no, I was refering to the Robe, Rita.. not the skirt.. what would I do with
a Skirt, unless it was really a Kilt? (yes Im scottish)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at wicca.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: dyed skirts file://SIMPLICITY


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I might have to make my own since my little dye job did not
> > > turn out so well.  The skirt is now a more subtle blue and green
> > > plaid skirt that looks a little gray.
> >
> > >
> > > What Simplicity pattern number was it though?  I looked through
> > > the books but did not see one that had the right pleats.
> >
> Stupid Catlady! I didn't notice that you were looking for SKIRT
> patterns, Zeff8 having said that Simplicity makes an easy one. I
> personally doubt the existence of an easy, pleasted (oxymoron!)
> skirt pattern, but the ONLY pleated skirt pattern I found in on-line
> catalog was Design 8680, which isn't really the same as the uniform
> skirt.
>
>
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From morrigan at byz.org  Tue Oct 22 01:15:43 2002
From: morrigan at byz.org (Vicki)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:15:43 -0500
Subject: Draco Malfoy's online journal
In-Reply-To: <ap1ult+5mas@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <OCEOIOOCLDBFPDHBBCEMAEGBCJAA.morrigan@byz.org>

Oh wow!  I can't believe our little role-playing game got a mention here.
Yes, some of us do have WAY too much time on our hands, but we have a lot of
fun with it, and apparently entertain others (thanks for the kind words,
Zorb!!).

If you'd like more information on Nocturne Alley or RPGs in general, please
check out our website at http://kissaki.bourgeoisonline.com/rpg/.  Keep in
mind that not all RPGs are run the same, but this has worked for us for a
while now.

If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a line.

Vicki, NA Moderator,
aka http://www.livejournal.com/users/missgranger

-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of zorb47

>Actually, that particular LiveJournal is part of a large (and
>fabulous) RPG community.  The main page is
>http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley - you can see all the
>participants' entries there and on the friends ("Denizens") page.
>
>-Zorb, not a denizen, but a big fan

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "kokopoko2000" <kokobreen at j...> wrote:
> Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online diary!
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks
>
> I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments as
> Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his diary
> entries.
>
> Someone has too much time on their hands but I think it's great!
>
> Christine




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct 22 02:06:14 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:06:14 -0000
Subject: Michiganders?
In-Reply-To: <00ab01c2762d$6bf32d20$1204f50c@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <ap2bqm+8f01@eGroups.com>

Nicole wrote: 
> > I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and ask if there
> > are any Michiganders out there?  

Hi, I'm Judy from Southfield and I have read all the books about 
four or five times each!  Is that a big enough fan for you?  I also 
like all the "Michigan" things like campin', hikin' and canoein'

Judy





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 03:06:37 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:06:37 -0000
Subject: HP calendar/skirt
Message-ID: <ap2fbt+e1mh@eGroups.com>

Those of you that have bought the HP movie calendar, where did you 
find it??  I am not seeing it at any of my bookstores.  Unless they 
are all sold out, which is always a possibility.  Thanks for the 
info!

Melody, how's the skirt hunting going?  I'm still looking! I checked 
Ross today and they didn't have one :(

Alora




From nplyon at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 03:08:48 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:08:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Eighth Potter Novel?
Message-ID: <20021022030848.34729.qmail@web20907.mail.yahoo.com>

Interesting read:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/books/10/21/leisure.potter.reut/index.html

Seems strange to register a trademark if you're not
intending to use it but then maybe I'm just such a
rabid Potter fan that I can't stand the idea of there
never being any more Potter after book 7.  It's also
probably the fact that if there were to be a book 8
that will be titled "Harry Potter and -", Harry must
not die in book 7.  :)

~Nicole, hopeless HP addict

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 22 03:19:03 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:19:03 -0000
Subject: HP calendar/skirt
In-Reply-To: <ap2fbt+e1mh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap2g37+gnm5@eGroups.com>

Alora asked:
> Those of you that have bought the HP movie calendar, where did you
> find it??  I am not seeing it at any of my bookstores.  Unless they
> are all sold out, which is always a possibility.  Thanks for the
> info!

I saw the wall-movie calender in either Waldenbooks or B. Dalton
Books.  Either way it was the bookstore in the mall.  Personally, I
really want the day-by-day calender.  I love to cut the pictures out
and make my own poster.  I know, I'm odd, but it is so much fun and a
great way to waste a Saturday.


> Melody, how's the skirt hunting going?  I'm still looking! I checked
> Ross today and they didn't have one :(

I'm about ready to just order one from the posted link earlier for
Bedford Fair Lifestyles.  It actually looks nice enough that I will be
able to wear this skirt to other things like church.  Hey, there a
thought.  A multi-functional Potter costume.  Doubt I can wear the
robe for anything else especially after I add the patch and clasps.
Oh, I got my robe material today.  I settled on a black wool fabric
with a touch of nylon in it...AND it was on sale.  Woohoo! :)  Get
lucky sometimes.

Is anyone making/wearing the cloak as well?  It is too hot here is
Texas to ever really wear one, so I don't think I will, but it looks
nice.  Just curious.

Melody







From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 05:17:08 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP calendar/skirt
In-Reply-To: <ap2fbt+e1mh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021022051708.54138.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 alora <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com> wrote:
Those of you that have bought the HP movie calendar, where did you 
find it??  I am not seeing it at any of my bookstores.  Unless they 
are all sold out, which is always a possibility.  Thanks for the 
info!

Melody, how's the skirt hunting going?  I'm still looking! I checked 
Ross today and they didn't have one :(

Alora
Now me:

I found the calendar at Target and Waldenbooks.  I haven't been to Borders or Barnes and Noble lately, so I don't know if they have them or not. As for the skirt issue, you could try a school uniform store.

Good luck, Kristi


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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 22 12:09:44 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:09:44 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: dyed skirts //SIMPLICITY
Message-ID: <F8177bieLYCT4aJ6pkN0000004e@hotmail.com>

Hey Melody!

I can't recall off the top of my head whether or not this has already been 
suggested, but I just remembered something...

The last time I was at the Fabric Store, looking through patterns, I noted 
that there were several patterns (in the costume section of the pattern 
book) for cheerleader outfits where the skirts seem very similar to the 
Hogwarts' uniform.  Maybe you can check it out, eh?

-Gail B...who is approximately 85% finished with her own set of robes!


> > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, I might have to make my own since my little dye job did not
> > > > turn out so well.  The skirt is now a more subtle blue and green
> > > > plaid skirt that looks a little gray.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > What Simplicity pattern number was it though?  I looked through
> > > > the books but did not see one that had the right pleats.


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From A.E.B.Bevan at open.ac.uk  Tue Oct 22 12:29:21 2002
From: A.E.B.Bevan at open.ac.uk (edisbevan)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:29:21 -0000
Subject: Eighth Potter Novel?
In-Reply-To: <20021022030848.34729.qmail@web20907.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ap3gb1+lobr@eGroups.com>

"Nicole wrote:
> Seems strange to register a trademark if you're not
> intending to use it 

I Think it is fairly standard commercial practice - the UK Store 
Marks and Spencers for example has registered as trademarks a number 
of variations on its name (such as 'Marks and Sparks') to prevent 
commercial shenanigans. After the 'Rah and the Muggles' nonsense I 
wouldn't blame the publishes for taking preventive action.

On the other hand they would say that wouldnt they?

Edis




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 12:34:53 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:34:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Michelle!
Message-ID: <20021022123453.12925.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com>

*surveys the decorations in place, places very large
cake on the side table with the rest of the food and
tosses confetti around the room for good measure*

Today's birthday honouree is Michelle. Birthday owls
can be send care of this list or directly to:
firefightermichelle at yahoo.com

Best wishes for a day filled with fun and magic.

Happy Birthday, Michelle!

Sheryll

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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 12:43:41 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:43:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Jeralyn (belated)!
Message-ID: <20021022124341.28919.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>

*throws herself on the floor and gets ready for some
serious groveling*

How I could miss this birthday is beyond my
comprehension. Sincere apologies for missing this.
Would you like some extra cake, Jeralyn? A keg of
butterbeer?

Jeralyn celebrated her birthday on Sunday. Belated
owls can be sent to this list or directly to:
voicelady at mymailstation.com

I hope you day was filled with everything wonderful
and magical.

Belated Happy Birthday, Jeralyn

Sheryll, the apologetic Birthday Elf

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From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 14:56:25 2002
From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:56:25 -0000
Subject: Draco Malfoy's online journal
In-Reply-To: <ap1ult+5mas@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap3oup+376v@eGroups.com>


There is also an RPG community centered on LOTR-- The Middle Earth 
Sock Puppet Theatre http://www.livejournal.com/users/middle_earth.

I have played Queen Beruthiel and Boromir, but haven't been active 
lately. Heheheh. It has become quite large and sprawling, but they 
are a fun bunch!

--Suzanne



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "zorb47" <zorb47 at c...> wrote:
> Actually, that particular LiveJournal is part of a large (and 
> fabulous) RPG community.  The main page is 
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley - you can see all 
the 
> participants' entries there and on the friends ("Denizens") page.
> 
> -Zorb, not a denizen, but a big fan
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "kokopoko2000" <kokobreen at j...> wrote:
> > Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online 
diary!
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks
> > 
> > I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments 
as 
> > Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his 
diary 
> > entries.
> > 
> > Someone has too much time on their hands but I think it's great!
> > 
> > Christine




From karnasaur at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 15:21:04 2002
From: karnasaur at yahoo.com (Kristjan Arnason)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Nocturne Ave. Live Journal
In-Reply-To: <1035274277.531.29743.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021022152104.57180.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com>

The funniest entry was this:

Percy Weasley writes an entry about: "You know, people
often ask me, 'Percy, what's your favourite country?'
And I find myself perplexed. I find the histories of
many countries fascinating. There is, of course,
Lebanon."

A series of responces follow, concluding with this:

"Mr. (Percy) Weasley, 

I am very impressed with your entry regarding Lebanon.
I, too, am somewhat of a history buff. Lebanon is a
very fascinating country with very entertaining
history. Here are a few little-known facts. 

The Phoenecians (the ancient Lebanese) were the first
to explore the coasts of West Africa and Britain in
1000 B.C. Lebanon is the only country in the Middle
East that does not have a desert. In January 1976, a
guerilla force blasted into the vaults of the British
Bank of the Middle East in Bab Idriss, cleaning out
the contents of the safe deposit. The boxes of cash
and other valuables were estimated by former Finance
Minister Lucien Dahdah at $50 million. It was the
singlemost lucrative bank robbery in history, occuring
during the worst civil unrest period ever in Beirut,
Lebanon. 

I would award points to your house for an entertaining
and informative entry, Mr. Weasley, however, that is
not possible since you are a Hogwarts graduate and no
longer a student. 

-Professor Snape"


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From heidit at netbox.com  Tue Oct 22 15:27:41 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:27:41 -0400
Subject: An Overview of Fandom
Message-ID: <00fa01c279df$9366a200$3701010a@Frodo>

Hi. The post yesterday about the PotterStinks Livejournal portion of our
Nocturne Alley community got me thinking that there are probably a lot
of areas of fandom which many people aren't aware of - covering all
different facets of fun and information. 

Now, I admit that I'm not going to cover everything in here - a quick
search on Yahoo will let you know that there are at least 2000 Harry
Potter fansites out there, but I will mention the larger ones, and note
that from them, you can find other sites easily as well.

First, there's news and images. I'm an editor over at
the-leaky-cauldron.org, one of the more popular Harry Potter "news"
sites. We host tonnes of images from the movies (and will from the book
when OOTP is on the agenda) and put up reports 2-10 times a day about
news articles, magazine pieces and reports on what's new in the HP
universe. Right now, we're focused on movie things and JKR stuff,
because that's what's getting more coverage in the press - and speaking
of the press, we actually *are* press ourselves these days. Melissa, our
managing editor, is spending time this month interviewing the kids and
Chris Columbus abou Chamber of Secrets, and we'll be posting those
interviews in the days before the film is released. We're the only
online site invited on the NYC press junket, and we're thrilled to be a
part of it. 

Second, there are blogs and Live Journals. Many people in fandom,
including mods of this list (JohnWalton) and other listies, have
LiveJournals (http://www.livejournal.com) and Blogs, both of which are
types of online diaries that people can use to upload bits about their
daily lives and personalities, or discussions about fandom topics. The
fandomdirectory livejournal (made by some anonymous fandomer) is the
best way to see ALL the LJs of Harry Potter fandomers - you can find it
here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/fandomdirectory/friends

Third, there are informational sites. We're sure that many of you have
seen links to the Lexicon (http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon) and may
be aware of the Goat Pen as well, which archives or links to a
tremendous number of JKR's interviews
(http://www.geocities.com/aberforths_goat/index.htm). They're useful,
they're handy and they're easy to search.

Fourth are RPGs - role playing games. There's a number of active ones,
including Hogwarts Online (http://www.hol.org.uk/index.shtml) where
people pretend to be teachers and students, and more literary ones, like
Reparo (http://www.livejournal.com/~reparo) and the aforementioned
Nocturne Alley (http://www.livejournal.com/~nocturne_alley). The longest
continuing running one in the fandom (AFAIK) is The Double Cross, which
is rated NC-17, so I won't link to it here. It's been going on for two
years in January. 

And fifth, of course, is fanfic. The largest cache of HP fanfics is at
my site, FictionAlley (http://www.fictionalley.org (although as we just
moved servers, you might find it easier to locate by going to
http://64.62.140.113/)), which houses a tremendous range of fics that
take place in the HP universe, ranging from Founders' times to future
fics, and covering every possible character (yes, Mundungus Fletcher and
Newt Scamander too!) - and probably every possible permutation of
romance. There are other sites which focus on specific ships,
characters, or perspectives, like the Harry/Hermione focused Pumpkin Pie
(http://www.pumpkinpie.8m.net/), Guns & Handcuffs' Harry/Draco
(http://www.gunsnhandcuffs.8m.net/), SugarQuill
(http://www.sugarquill.net (mostly Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny), and
Azkaban's Lair (Remus/Sirius fics at
http://www.slashcity.org/~nezad/AzkabanLair.htm). The HPfGU Fanfic FAQ
is also available at http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/fanfic.html - I admit
that it's a bit out of date, but the recommendations are all still
valid!. 

Additionally, of course, there are sites like Caius Marcus' HP Filks
Page (http://home.att.net/~coriolan/) which has the lyrics, and links to
the original songs where legal, for hundreds of Harry Potter filks of
all different genres. Yes, including opera and rap.  

And let's not forget that next summer in Orlando there's going to be the
first international Harry Potter syposium, hosted at the Swan & Dolphin
Hotels at Walt Disney World - check out http://www.hp2003.org for more
info. 


How's that for a quick overview of fandom? I'm sure others will have
areas of fandom that I haven't mentioned yet (although the elements that
engage in trading bootlegs of the movie, the books or the soundtracks
can't post about them here) with more information for those who are
looking to explore other facets of the PotterPhenomenon. 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Vicki" <morrigan at b...> wrote:

> If you'd like more information on Nocturne Alley or RPGs in general,
please
> check out our website at http://kissaki.bourgeoisonline.com/rpg/.
Keep in
> mind that not all RPGs are run the same, but this has worked for us
for a
> while now.
>  
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "kokopoko2000" <kokobreen at j...> wrote:
> > Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online diary!
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks
> >
> > I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments as
> > Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his diary
> > entries.





From kokobreen at juno.com  Tue Oct 22 15:57:17 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:57:17 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
Message-ID: <20021022.115733.29628.26248@wm3.nyc.untd.com>

Thank you so much for posting that!  I have managed to stumble across most of them, but it took a long time being in fandom before finding some of these.

Since you work for The Leaky Cauldron I have a question, I can't access the site anymore.  It's down taken down is it?  I was able to see the new site design for about a day (though it did load very slow) but now I can't access it all.  Can you help with this?  I went to TLC every day for news and now I'm going through Potter news withdrawl!

Christine

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From: "heiditandy" <heidit at netbox.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:27:41 -0400

Hi. The post yesterday about the PotterStinks Livejournal portion of our
Nocturne Alley community got me thinking that there are probably a lot
of areas of fandom which many people aren't aware of - covering all
different facets of fun and information. 

Now, I admit that I'm not going to cover everything in here - a quick
search on Yahoo will let you know that there are at least 2000 Harry
Potter fansites out there, but I will mention the larger ones, and note
that from them, you can find other sites easily as well.

First, there's news and images. I'm an editor over at
the-leaky-cauldron.org, one of the more popular Harry Potter "news"
sites. We host tonnes of images from the movies (and will from the book
when OOTP is on the agenda) and put up reports 2-10 times a day about
news articles, magazine pieces and reports on what's new in the HP
universe. Right now, we're focused on movie things and JKR stuff,
because that's what's getting more coverage in the press - and speaking
of the press, we actually *are* press ourselves these days. Melissa, our
managing editor, is spending time this month interviewing the kids and
Chris Columbus abou Chamber of Secrets, and we'll be posting those
interviews in the days before the film is released. We're the only
online site invited on the NYC press junket, and we're thrilled to be a
part of it. 

Second, there are blogs and Live Journals. Many people in fandom,
including mods of this list (JohnWalton) and other listies, have
LiveJournals (http://www.livejournal.com) and Blogs, both of which are
types of online diaries that people can use to upload bits about their
daily lives and personalities, or discussions about fandom topics. The
fandomdirectory livejournal (made by some anonymous fandomer) is the
best way to see ALL the LJs of Harry Potter fandomers - you can find it
here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/fandomdirectory/friends

Third, there are informational sites. We're sure that many of you have
seen links to the Lexicon (http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon) and may
be aware of the Goat Pen as well, which archives or links to a
tremendous number of JKR's interviews
(http://www.geocities.com/aberforths_goat/index.htm). They're useful,
they're handy and they're easy to search.

Fourth are RPGs - role playing games. There's a number of active ones,
including Hogwarts Online (http://www.hol.org.uk/index.shtml) where
people pretend to be teachers and students, and more literary ones, like
Reparo (http://www.livejournal.com/~reparo) and the aforementioned
Nocturne Alley (http://www.livejournal.com/~nocturne_alley). The longest
continuing running one in the fandom (AFAIK) is The Double Cross, which
is rated NC-17, so I won't link to it here. It's been going on for two
years in January. 

And fifth, of course, is fanfic. The largest cache of HP fanfics is at
my site, FictionAlley (http://www.fictionalley.org (although as we just
moved servers, you might find it easier to locate by going to
http://64.62.140.113/)), which houses a tremendous range of fics that
take place in the HP universe, ranging from Founders' times to future
fics, and covering every possible character (yes, Mundungus Fletcher and
Newt Scamander too!) - and probably every possible permutation of
romance. There are other sites which focus on specific ships,
characters, or perspectives, like the Harry/Hermione focused Pumpkin Pie
(http://www.pumpkinpie.8m.net/), Guns & Handcuffs' Harry/Draco
(http://www.gunsnhandcuffs.8m.net/), SugarQuill
(http://www.sugarquill.net (mostly Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny), and
Azkaban's Lair (Remus/Sirius fics at
http://www.slashcity.org/~nezad/AzkabanLair.htm). The HPfGU Fanfic FAQ
is also available at http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/faq/fanfic.html - I admit
that it's a bit out of date, but the recommendations are all still
valid!. 

Additionally, of course, there are sites like Caius Marcus' HP Filks
Page (http://home.att.net/~coriolan/) which has the lyrics, and links to
the original songs where legal, for hundreds of Harry Potter filks of
all different genres. Yes, including opera and rap.  

And let's not forget that next summer in Orlando there's going to be the
first international Harry Potter syposium, hosted at the Swan & Dolphin
Hotels at Walt Disney World - check out http://www.hp2003.org for more
info. 


How's that for a quick overview of fandom? I'm sure others will have
areas of fandom that I haven't mentioned yet (although the elements that
engage in trading bootlegs of the movie, the books or the soundtracks
can't post about them here) with more information for those who are
looking to explore other facets of the PotterPhenomenon. 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Vicki" <morrigan at b...> wrote:

> If you'd like more information on Nocturne Alley or RPGs in general,
please
> check out our website at http://kissaki.bourgeoisonline.com/rpg/.
Keep in
> mind that not all RPGs are run the same, but this has worked for us
for a
> while now.
>  
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "kokopoko2000" <kokobreen at j...> wrote:
> > Has anyone else ran across this site?  Draco Malfoy's online diary!
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks
> >
> > I think it's rather hysterical.  Make sure you read the comments as
> > Ron, Harry, Narcissa and Sinistra, etc have responded to his diary
> > entries.




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From heidit at netbox.com  Tue Oct 22 16:18:41 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:18:41 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <20021022.115733.29628.26248@wm3.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <010201c279e6$b2f7f9f0$3701010a@Frodo>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: kokobreen at juno.com [mailto:kokobreen at juno.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re:[HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
> 
> 
> Real-To:  kokobreen at juno.com
> Real-Cc:  
> 
> Thank you so much for posting that!  I have managed to 
> stumble across most of them, but it took a long time being in 
> fandom before finding some of these.
> 
> Since you work for The Leaky Cauldron I have a question, I 
> can't access the site anymore.  It's down taken down is it?  
> I was able to see the new site design for about a day (though 
> it did load very slow) but now I can't access it all.  Can 
> you help with this?  I went to TLC every day for news and now 
> I'm going through Potter news withdrawl!
> 

Oh, I am sorry it's not working for you - could you email me offlist -
and could anyone else who can't reach it either - and let me know which
browser and operating system (OS) you're using, so we can see where
there are problems? We know that Netscape 4.6 and 4.7 are issue-laden
because of the standard codes we're using, but we need to know about
problems with other things.

Please don't reply about your browsers onlist - just send them to
heidit*netbox.com with an @ instead of the *.

THANKS!





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 21:04:56 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:04:56 -0000
Subject: TRL
Message-ID: <ap4eho+coe8@eGroups.com>

Did anyone else catch TRL on MTV today?  wasn't Daniel a cutie?  he 
sure has grown up since the last movie.  When Chris Columbus said he 
would be a heartbreaker, he wasn't kidding ;)

Alora




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Tue Oct 22 23:31:22 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:31:22 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Michiganders?
References: <ap2bqm+8f01@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01e701c27a23$27331b60$1204f50c@attbi.com>


Lets see.. Can we attach photos here? If so, I'll send ya one of my
collection.. or several of them of my collecton, which streaches around my
living room and hallway.
I have all the books, read them twice, have all 4 audio CD' books, listened
to them at least 4 times, and am currently on POA right now, disk 7 of 10.
I have all the Hallmark peweter orniments, A "harry potter" metal cauldron
that fits in your hand, given to the press at the premier.. A "harry potter"
wand, also given to the press. One of the Envelopes used in the movie, and a
London Primere ticket too.
It has "hogwarts express" on the back of it..
Not to mention the 6 coins issued by Isle of Man, a complete English version
of the chocolate frog card set.. and many other items..

I am going to the local Charity "premier" on November 15th, dressed up as a
wizard.
at 100 bucks a ticket, its a bit expensive, but its going to a good cause:
Make a wish foundation and Devos childrens hospital.

Oh, Im in Grand Rapids, and yes, im an adult neer the age of 40.




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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:06 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Michiganders?


> Nicole wrote:
> > > I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and ask if there
> > > are any Michiganders out there?
>
> Hi, I'm Judy from Southfield and I have read all the books about
> four or five times each!  Is that a big enough fan for you?  I also
> like all the "Michigan" things like campin', hikin' and canoein'
>
> Judy
>
>
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From zeff8 at attbi.com  Tue Oct 22 23:32:10 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:32:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP calendar/skirt
References: <20021022051708.54138.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01f901c27a23$3ead8b40$1204f50c@attbi.com>

try ebay Kristi..
thats where I got mine for 5 bucks..



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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP calendar/skirt


>
>
>  alora <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Those of you that have bought the HP movie calendar, where did you
> find it??  I am not seeing it at any of my bookstores.  Unless they
> are all sold out, which is always a possibility.  Thanks for the
> info!
>
> Melody, how's the skirt hunting going?  I'm still looking! I checked
> Ross today and they didn't have one :(
>
> Alora
> Now me:
>
> I found the calendar at Target and Waldenbooks.  I haven't been to Borders
or Barnes and Noble lately, so I don't know if they have them or not. As for
the skirt issue, you could try a school uniform store.
>
> Good luck, Kristi
>
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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed Oct 23 00:38:14 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:38:14 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <00fa01c279df$9366a200$3701010a@Frodo>
Message-ID: <3DB67C16.29873.75E84F@localhost>

On 22 Oct 2002 at 11:27, heiditandy wrote:

> Fourth are RPGs - role playing games. There's a number of active ones,
> including Hogwarts Online (http://www.hol.org.uk/index.shtml) where
> people pretend to be teachers and students, and more literary ones, like
> Reparo (http://www.livejournal.com/~reparo) and the aforementioned
> Nocturne Alley (http://www.livejournal.com/~nocturne_alley). The longest
> continuing running one in the fandom (AFAIK) is The Double Cross, which
> is rated NC-17, so I won't link to it here. It's been going on for two
> years in January. 

Remember, that is only one type of Roleplaying Game though - online RPGs are a 
minor part of the roleplaying hobby (though a rapidly growing one). I'd specifically 
like to mention that there are people who tabletop roleplay (the original form of the 
RPG) within the Potterverse. I've been running a Harry Potter roleplaying campaign, 
with sessions at least once a month (sometimes once a week) since late 1999, and I 
know of quite a few others. I also ran a Harry Potter game at a roleplaying 
convention earlier this year, and last week committed myself to running another one 
next year - and again, I know HP games have run at other RPG conventions.

Just adding another aspect to the fandom list (-8

And now I return to my attempt to accurately map Hogwarts (nasty people on a HP 
newsgroup *dared* to point out errors in my maps which I now must change!)


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 23 01:23:59 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:23:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP calendar/skirt
References: <ap2fbt+e1mh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <019a01c27a32$dd8db3c0$899ecdd1@istu757>

Alora writes:

> Those of you that have bought the HP movie calendar, where did you
> find it??  I am not seeing it at any of my bookstores.  Unless they
> are all sold out, which is always a possibility.  Thanks for the
> info!

I got my movie wall calendar at Waldenbooks a couple of weeks ago.  However,
the other calendars were too slow for my taste showing up in bookstores, so
I ordered them from Barnes & Noble online.  All are in stock now.  I got the
cube calendar a couple of weeks ago and the others are supposed to be
shipped tomorrow (engagement calendar, mini calendar, and daily calendar).

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From kokobreen at juno.com  Wed Oct 23 14:59:12 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokopoko2000)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:59:12 -0000
Subject: Daniel Radcliffe Media pics!
Message-ID: <ap6dg0+dmnu@eGroups.com>

For all you in need of a Dan fix, here it is!

http://www.danielradcliffeexposed.com/mediapictures.html

Christine




From lauren.healy at tesco.net  Wed Oct 23 20:11:28 2002
From: lauren.healy at tesco.net (loz31852002)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:11:28 -0000
Subject: HI, I'm new!
Message-ID: <ap6vpg+971e@eGroups.com>

Hi.
 
 Just thought I should introduce myself.  Hi, my name is Lauren and 
I'm very nearly 17 years old (in 8 days!)  I know that this group 
is essentially an adult orietated place, but it does say that older 
teens could be interested, so, here I am!  *waves*  I've been into 
the HP fandom for about a 9 months, and into Harry Potter as a 
whole for about a year.  I'm a member of Pumpkin Pie Archives,  
HHShippers Anonymous, Paradigm of Uncertainty and PGW Industries.  My 
all 
time fave authors are Lori, Lissanne, Parker and Cadey.  And if you 
hadn't 
guessed by my choice of authors and groups, I'm an H/Hr Shipper. 

I like getting involved in most discussions, and like reading 
other people's points of views.  I don't bash, and don't like seeing 
bashing going on, but as I presume you are all mature adults 
*cough!* I doubt there's going to be much of that going on!

Anyway, that's it from me for now!

Love Lauren  :)




From sky14381 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 00:07:09 2002
From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:07:09 -0000
Subject: realistic gryffindor patch -- finally!
Message-ID: <ap7djd+ofpl@eGroups.com>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=727594008




From akirabou at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 01:13:44 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 01:13:44 -0000
Subject: Michiganders / Nocturne Alley 
Message-ID: <ap7hg8+ufna@eGroups.com>

I live in Redford, MI! I'm a huge fan of the books and movies. I'm
also a merchandise nut. I buy anything and everything I can to do with
Harry Potter (unless it's rather horrible or too silly.. like those
mini doll things, or the potion making game). The pride of my
collection is the Dumbledore pocket watch, and a large Hagrid.. er..
statue? from Hallmark.  Not sure what to call it. :D I really wanted
to go to that charity movie premier thing, but I'm really broke right
now. 

I love the Nocturne Alley LJ! It's so funny sometimes! Potterstinks is
just hilarious.. I love it when he bickers with the other characters,
or makes snide remarks. My favorite entry is this one.. yucky, yet funny..

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=nocturne_alley&itemid=2329

Also, speaking of (well, earlier entries were) the Leaky Cauldron..
those new pictures they have up - wow! I love them! And the new
interviews are very cool. That is a wonderful site. :) 

And I saw Daniel on TRL yesterday, too.. he is completely adorable!

~ Kara




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Thu Oct 24 02:21:30 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:21:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Michiganders / Nocturne Alley
References: <ap7hg8+ufna@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001701c27b04$10a17ea0$1204f50c@attbi.com>

well, I got a lot of the stuff too.. but not the pocket watch.. I have  afew
HP wrist watches.. I do have the fanny packl (Gryffindor) and almost a
complete costume.. need to find a sweater though..  but my pride and joy of
the collection is the Letter.. the Envelope with a "copy" of the letter used
in the movie, and a London Primere ticket that has "hogwarts express,
platform 9 and 3/4" on the back of it..


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kara" <akirabou at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:13 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Michiganders / Nocturne Alley


> I live in Redford, MI! I'm a huge fan of the books and movies. I'm
> also a merchandise nut. I buy anything and everything I can to do with
> Harry Potter (unless it's rather horrible or too silly.. like those
> mini doll things, or the potion making game). The pride of my
> collection is the Dumbledore pocket watch, and a large Hagrid.. er..
> statue? from Hallmark.  Not sure what to call it. :D I really wanted
> to go to that charity movie premier thing, but I'm really broke right
> now.
>
> I love the Nocturne Alley LJ! It's so funny sometimes! Potterstinks is
> just hilarious.. I love it when he bickers with the other characters,
> or makes snide remarks. My favorite entry is this one.. yucky, yet funny..
>
> http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=nocturne_alley&itemid=2329
>
> Also, speaking of (well, earlier entries were) the Leaky Cauldron..
> those new pictures they have up - wow! I love them! And the new
> interviews are very cool. That is a wonderful site. :)
>
> And I saw Daniel on TRL yesterday, too.. he is completely adorable!





From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 03:48:34 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:48:34 -0000
Subject: TLC: "geniune press outlet"
Message-ID: <ap7qii+s53m@eGroups.com>

CONGRATULATIONS!

I know this may be a bit OT, but as this is HP-OT chatter, what the 
heck?

I just wanted to toast my champagne glass (M&R Asti Spumante) to 
everyone involved with *The Leaky Cauldron*!

Melissa expressed her gratitued to WB for considering them a "genuine 
press outlet".  Well, I hope I can speak for others as I say I 
consider TLC the ONLY genuine HP news site (well, aside from WB, but 
you don't get the good gossip and pics there that we do at TLC).
You are an amazing group! (and thanks for the COS interviews; loved 
that bit about Dan and Emma hugging!! >bg<)

Congratulations again and keep up the fantastic work!! :-)

Anna . . . 




From tarier at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 24 18:01:19 2002
From: tarier at hotmail.com (Tarie)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:01:19 -0000
Subject: An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <00fa01c279df$9366a200$3701010a@Frodo>
Message-ID: <ap9chf+apjk@eGroups.com>

If anyone has any questions about RPGs, feel free to contact me.  
I've been at it for quite some time and have only participated in 
Harry Potter ones.  I am a player at <a 
href=http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley>Nocturne 
Alley</a> and run two HP RPGs on ezboard. (One takes place during 7th 
year while another is set four years after Hogwarts at a training 
facility in Ireland with BTVS/Angel/X-Men/TVD characters.) 

Roleplaying is probably my favourite aspect of fandom, next to 
reading quality FFs.

~Tara




From kokobreen at juno.com  Thu Oct 24 18:15:29 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:15:29 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An Overview of Fandom
Message-ID: <20021024.141557.29628.35892@wm3.nyc.untd.com>

>>I am a player at <a 
href=http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley>Nocturne 
Alley</a> 

Which character are you?

Christine






From tarier at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 24 19:14:58 2002
From: tarier at hotmail.com (Tarie)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:14:58 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <20021024.141557.29628.35892@wm3.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <ap9gri+uh3n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., kokobreen at j... wrote:
> >>I am a player at <a 
> href=http://www.livejournal.com/users/nocturne_alley>Nocturne 
> Alley</a> 
> 
> Which character are you?
> 
> Christine

I play Narcissa.  Heh. It's rather challenging for me, as I play 
Hermione on the two ezboard RPGs that I own as well as another 
Gryffindor and a Slytherin who are both original characters.

~Tara




From kokobreen at juno.com  Thu Oct 24 19:20:13 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:20:13 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An Overview of Fandom
Message-ID: <20021024.152027.29628.36230@wm3.nyc.untd.com>

>>I play Narcissa.  ~Tara

Blondenarcissa!  I love reading nocturne alley, it is so funny.  Especially when Draco flips out.

Christine






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 01:00:32 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:00:32 -0500
Subject: Gryffindor crest completed!
Message-ID: <032c01c27bc1$ec0d62c0$739ecdd1@istu757>

I've posted a picture of it in the photo album of HP OT Chatter (this group, obviously).  

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=Gryffindor+Crest.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t

Boy, that's quite a link.  Don't know if it'll work or not!

Richelle

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"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Fri Oct 25 01:18:05 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:18:05 -0000
Subject: HI, I'm new! and H/Hr SHIP
In-Reply-To: <ap6vpg+971e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apa64d+ainl@eGroups.com>

lauren wrote:
> Hi.
>  
>  Just thought I should introduce myself.  Hi, my name is Lauren 
and 
> I'm very nearly 17 years old (in 8 days!)  I know that this group 
> is essentially an adult orietated place, but it does say that 
older 
> teens could be interested, so, here I am!  *waves*  I've been into 
> the HP fandom for about a 9 months, and into Harry Potter as a 
> whole for about a year.  I'm a member of Pumpkin Pie Archives,  
> HHShippers Anonymous, Paradigm of Uncertainty and PGW Industries.  
My 
> all 
> time fave authors are Lori, Lissanne, Parker and Cadey.  And if 
you 
> hadn't 
> guessed by my choice of authors and groups, I'm an H/Hr Shipper. 
> 
> I like getting involved in most discussions, and like reading 
> other people's points of views.  I don't bash, and don't like 
seeing 
> bashing going on, but as I presume you are all mature adults 
> *cough!* I doubt there's going to be much of that going on!
> 
> Anyway, that's it from me for now!

Me:

Hi, Lauren, nice to meet another H/Hr shipper. With Chris Columbus' 
recent remarks it dosen't look so good for our favorite SHIP.  I 
truly believe that H/Hr are soulmates and that the R/Hr attraction 
is just physical.  You're just a few years out from 14, do you have 
a GoF (Goblet of Fire) perspective you'd care to share?  Again, 
welcome,  Nia




From kdavison at shreve.net  Fri Oct 25 03:02:22 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:02:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor crest completed!
References: <032c01c27bc1$ec0d62c0$739ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <008101c27bd2$f31b5ac0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Wow, you did such a great job!  How are you attaching it to your robe?
I used to crosstitch, and I think I may give this a try!  :-)
Kim Davison


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i-55.com>
> I've posted a picture of it in the photo album of HP OT Chatter (this
group, obviously).
>
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm
=Gryffindor+Crest.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/h
pfgu-otchatter/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t
>
> Boy, that's quite a link.  Don't know if it'll work or not!
>
> Richelle
>






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 03:13:53 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:13:53 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor crest completed!
References: <032c01c27bc1$ec0d62c0$739ecdd1@istu757> <008101c27bd2$f31b5ac0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <004701c27bd4$8d15e220$c69dcdd1@istu757>




> Wow, you did such a great job!  How are you attaching it to your robe?
> I used to crosstitch, and I think I may give this a try!  :-)
> Kim Davison

Thanks!  I think I'm going to backstitch around the entire crest and sew it
on that way.  It would be easy enough to get off if I want it off (though
what else would I want my college grad robe for?!), but it'll look okay on,
as the black surrounding it will just make the crest stand out more.  Make
sense?

Richelle





From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 03:51:32 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor crest completed!
In-Reply-To: <032c01c27bc1$ec0d62c0$739ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <20021025035132.40608.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Richelle Votaw <rvotaw at i-55.com> wrote:
> I've posted a picture of it in the photo album of HP
> OT Chatter (this group, obviously).  
> 
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=Gryffindor+Crest.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t
> 
> Boy, that's quite a link.  Don't know if it'll work
> or not!
> 
> Richelle

Wow, Richelle, that is so cool! Being an avid
cross-stitcher, I am very impressed!  Did you make
your own pattern? I would love a copy. You did an
awesome job.  I thought about doing that, but I didn't
have the time.

Congratulations, 
Kristi
> 
>
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> "May it be a light to you in dark places, when all
> other lights go out."
> ---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
>
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> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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From boggles at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 25 04:23:41 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:23:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <3DB67C16.29873.75E84F@localhost>
References: <3DB67C16.29873.75E84F@localhost>
Message-ID: <p05010400b9de76bb31b2@[64.105.61.152]>

At 10:38 AM +1000 10/23/02, Shaun Hately wrote:
>
>I'd specifically
>like to mention that there are people who tabletop roleplay (the 
>original form of the
>RPG) within the Potterverse. I've been running a Harry Potter 
>roleplaying campaign,
>with sessions at least once a month (sometimes once a week) since 
>late 1999, and I
>know of quite a few others.

May I ask what system you're using?  I've debated (lightly) 
attempting to write up a _GURPS: Hogwarts_ for personal use, but 
unfortunately my gaming group scattered to the four winds when 
everyone finished grad school.

-- 
  - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon			boggles at earthlink.net
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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Oct 25 09:04:53 2002
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:04:53 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An Overview of Fandom
In-Reply-To: <p05010400b9de76bb31b2@[64.105.61.152]>
References: <3DB67C16.29873.75E84F@localhost>
Message-ID: <3DB995D5.31772.1FBD91D@localhost>

On 24 Oct 2002 at 23:23, Jennifer Boggess Ramon wrote:

> May I ask what system you're using?  I've debated (lightly) 
> attempting to write up a _GURPS: Hogwarts_ for personal use, but 
> unfortunately my gaming group scattered to the four winds when 
> everyone finished grad school.

Highly modified, greatly simplified Mage: The Ascension - am looking at doing both 
GURPS and D20 at some stage - I like messing with rules system.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       |email: drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter
the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen
to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who:
The Face of Evil | Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From lauren.healy at tesco.net  Fri Oct 25 17:46:30 2002
From: lauren.healy at tesco.net (Lauren Healy)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:46:30 +0100
Subject: HI, I'm new! and H/Hr SHIP
In-Reply-To: <apa64d+ainl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <MBBBIJLGHHKMCFCGKJCCIEEGCBAA.lauren.healy@tesco.net>

Nia wrote:

<< Hi, Lauren, nice to meet another H/Hr shipper. With Chris Columbus'
recent remarks it dosen't look so good for our favorite SHIP.  I
truly believe that H/Hr are soulmates and that the R/Hr attraction
is just physical.  You're just a few years out from 14, do you have
a GoF (Goblet of Fire) perspective you'd care to share?>>

I'm writing:

Hi Nia and thanks a lot for the welcome.  I know what you mean about the
Chris Columbus comments and I'm totally...argh...don't know what I am at the
moment.  But you know, I have a theory.  I am reasonably happy to see Ron
and Hermione together for a while, maybe end of 5th, start of 6th books, but
then Harry and Hermione would end up together after a break up of R/Hr.
It's a common thoery of most of my H/Hr friends (few that they are!)  But I
can't speak for all H/Hr shippers.  I don't want to start shipper wars,
because I've seen them turn nasty concerning other ships.

How do you mean, a GoF perspective?  Like, what I think is going to happen
in the next book, or what was my opinion of GoF?  Or something else?

Again, thanks for the welcome!

Lauren  :-)







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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 17:59:26 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:59:26 -0000
Subject: Gryffindor crest completed!
In-Reply-To: <032c01c27bc1$ec0d62c0$739ecdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apc0pu+gq4c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> I've posted a picture of it in the photo album of HP OT Chatter 
(this group, obviously).  
> 
> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-
otchatter/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=Gryffindor+Crest.jpg&.view=t&.done=
http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter/lst%3f%
26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t
> 
> Boy, that's quite a link.  Don't know if it'll work or not!
> 
> Richelle
> 


Hmmmm, why can't I see the picture?  I am technologically 
challenged, so if anyone has suggestions, I am open!  :D

Alora




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 20:37:28 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:37:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffindor crest completed!
References: <20021025035132.40608.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ee01c27c66$63ed4e00$139dcdd1@istu757>

Kristi writes:

> Wow, Richelle, that is so cool! Being an avid
> cross-stitcher, I am very impressed!  Did you make
> your own pattern? I would love a copy. You did an
> awesome job.  I thought about doing that, but I didn't
> have the time.

Thanks, Kristi.  The pattern was in the Harry Potter cross stitch book from
DMC, published in France (yes, in French too).  Except for the word
"Gryffindor" for some reason was left off.  It's WB approved, so copyright
shouldn't be an issue.  Anyway, I used the HP font (downloadable from
internet) to make my own "Gryffindor" word pattern.  It wasn't the greatest,
but it sufficed.

>
> Hmmmm, why can't I see the picture?  I am technologically
> challenged, so if anyone has suggestions, I am open!  :D
>
> Alora

The link probably doesn't work (it didn't for me!), so try going to the
photo album on HPFGU-OT Chatter.  If you can't find it, let me know, I can
email you the picture.

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 20:53:29 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:53:29 -0000
Subject: RIchard Harris
Message-ID: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com>

I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....

Alora




From pinguthegreek at ukf.net  Fri Oct 25 20:57:15 2002
From: pinguthegreek at ukf.net (Michelle Apostolides)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:57:15 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
References: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c27c69$199e24c0$908e01d4@ukf974444>

I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....

Alora

Where did you hear this from ?

Michelle


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From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Fri Oct 25 21:00:30 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:00:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
In-Reply-To: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003401c27c69$91710a30$abc5fbd8@oemcomputer>

   
 
 Alora, where did you hear this?  This is JUST sooo sad!  Wow,,, I
remember reading at The Leaky Cauldron an interview with him that said
that he had hoped to play the part in the third movie and beyond.,..Wow.
This is quite sad.  
 
 
Alora said: 

I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....

Alora





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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 21:09:44 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:09:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
References: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com> <001c01c27c69$199e24c0$908e01d4@ukf974444>
Message-ID: <001801c27c6a$d843e120$fda1cdd1@istu757>



> I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....
>
> Alora
>
> Where did you hear this from ?
>
> Michelle

Here's a link to the BBC article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2362927.stm

This is so sad, and at all the press confrences they were just talking about
how well he was doing. :(

Richelle




From pinguthegreek at ukf.net  Fri Oct 25 21:04:24 2002
From: pinguthegreek at ukf.net (Michelle Apostolides)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:04:24 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
References: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com> <001c01c27c69$199e24c0$908e01d4@ukf974444> <001801c27c6a$d843e120$fda1cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <002201c27c6a$19017a20$908e01d4@ukf974444>


Here's a link to the BBC article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2362927.stm

This is so sad, and at all the press confrences they were just talking about
how well he was doing. :(

I just found it myself...this is a shock. I feel for his family.

Michelle


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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 21:13:50 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:13:50 -0000
Subject: Gryffindor crest completed!
In-Reply-To: <00ee01c27c66$63ed4e00$139dcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apcc6e+7d0n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> The link probably doesn't work (it didn't for me!), so try going 
to the
> photo album on HPFGU-OT Chatter.  If you can't find it, let me 
know, I can
> email you the picture.
> 
> Richelle


Ahh, I see it now, Richelle!  It looks great!  I can't believe you 
did that.  I've always admired people that could cross stitch - I've 
tried, and I just could not do it.

Alora





From heidit at netbox.com  Fri Oct 25 21:13:02 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:13:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1576049039.5361.hpfgu-otchatter@archive.hpfgu.org>

It was on cnn, itv, fox news and the bbc. Leaky Cauldron is getting confirmation from wb. 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Michelle Apostolides" <pinguthegreek at ukf.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:57:15 
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris

Real-To:  "Michelle Apostolides" <pinguthegreek at ukf.net>

I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....

Alora

Where did you hear this from ?

Michelle


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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 21:17:04 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:17:04 -0000
Subject: Weasley sweater
Message-ID: <apcccg+7im3@eGroups.com>

I know, I am on a posting spree today, just humour me. ;)

I ordered my Weasley sweater a few weeks ago from Pride and Joy 
online and I got it a few days ago.  It's so wonderful!  I got the 
cranberry colored one with my own initial on it and I feel like Mrs. 
Weasley knitted it just for me!  Isn't that silly?! :D  Call me 
crazy, but it was just too fun to pass up having a real Weasley 
sweater....er, or as close as you can get to it. If I can get a good 
pic of it, I'll upload it soon....

Alora, who's happy it is chilly in Texas today because she got to 
wear her sweater :)




From pinguthegreek at ukf.net  Fri Oct 25 21:15:50 2002
From: pinguthegreek at ukf.net (Michelle Apostolides)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:15:50 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RIchard Harris
References: <E185Bpc-0005AW-00@clustermail.minx.net.uk>
Message-ID: <002f01c27c6b$b1e7d260$908e01d4@ukf974444>

Thanks. The story just must have got posted as I was looking....

Seems so odd that they were talking about him like he was going to be OK at the press thing today...

Michelle


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From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Fri Oct 25 21:18:48 2002
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:18:48 -0000
Subject: Wrapping links, link-lengths, etc. (was Re: Gryffindor crest completed!)
In-Reply-To: <00ee01c27c66$63ed4e00$139dcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apccfo+9s6g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Richelle Votaw" wrote:
> The link probably doesn't work (it didn't for me!), so try
> going to the photo album on HPFGU-OT Chatter.  If you can't
> find it, let me know, I can email you the picture.

Yahoo!Groups has the annoying bug (they probably call it a special 
feature) that when URLs wrap, the link-conversion only works for what 
remains on the first line, so the link is wrong.  If the link-length 
is borderline, Yahoo!Groups will sometimes try to wrap, and ends up 
inserting a slash at the end of the link, making the link faulty.  
Since the Photos-section of Yahoo!Groups produces a link that is 
about 200 characters long, the link always wraps to several lines.  

Generally you get much more reasonable lengths of the links if you 
post files to the files-section (and don't use spaces in the folder- 
and file-names - spaces are converted into the string "%20"); the 
reason many groups require that image-files are posted to the photos-
group (but I have not seen that dictate here, and the Files-section 
is only 6-7% full, anyway), is that the Photos- and Files-sections 
have separate file-quotas - 20MB for Files, and 30 MB for Photos.  
Myself, I'd have preferred one bulk quota of 50 that went for both.

Best regards
Christian Stub?




From SHENmagic at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 22:31:53 2002
From: SHENmagic at aol.com (SHENmagic at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:31:53 EDT
Subject: [HPforGrownups] ADMIN: Richard Harris' death
Message-ID: <18b.10606ae8.2aeb2059@aol.com>


In a message dated 10/25/02 2:54:35 PM, john at queerasjohn.com writes:

<< As many of you know, Richard Harris, who played Albus Dumbledore in the 
PS/SS and CoS movies, has died today of cancer. >>

Oh that is sad news; I did wonder why Albus' twinkle and sparkle was absent 
in the first movie, Mr. Harris did quite beautifully when he portrayed King 
Arthur.
Ayleyaell

"Ring the bells that still can ring,  
Forget your perfect offering,
There is a crack in everything...    
That's how the light gets in."  

    Leonard Cohen



From crabtree at ktc.com  Fri Oct 25 23:47:11 2002
From: crabtree at ktc.com (Jo)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:47:11 -0000
Subject: TLC: "geniune press outlet" HELP
In-Reply-To: <ap7qii+s53m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apcl5v+beis@eGroups.com>

I would like to add my congratulations to TLC.  It has been the first 
bookmark I go to every time I turn on my computer for at least two 
years.  However, since the new graphics have gone up, when the 
graphics begin repeating themselves, so do the words (on top of the 
ones that are already there).  By the time I get to the bottom of the 
page all I have is an almost black screen.  I am suffering terrible 
withdrawals.  I have to read fast to get any news and never have time 
to go to any of the links before the "letter monster" attacks.  I even 
tried going into it from school, but it does the same thing there.  Is 
there anything I can do from my end to correct this, or am I doomed to 
be out of the "Leaky loop" from now on?  Help!!!

Professor Phlash
aka Jo



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "dradamsapple" <dradamsapple at y...> wrote:
> CONGRATULATIONS!
> 
> I know this may be a bit OT, but as this is HP-OT chatter, what the 
> heck?
> 
> I just wanted to toast my champagne glass (M&R Asti Spumante) to 
> everyone involved with *The Leaky Cauldron*!
> 
> Melissa expressed her gratitued to WB for considering them a 
"genuine 
> press outlet".  Well, I hope I can speak for others as I say I 
> consider TLC the ONLY genuine HP news site (well, aside from WB, but 
> you don't get the good gossip and pics there that we do at TLC).
> You are an amazing group! (and thanks for the COS interviews; loved 
> that bit about Dan and Emma hugging!! >bg<)
> 
> Congratulations again and keep up the fantastic work!! :-)
> 
> Anna . . .




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sat Oct 26 02:14:41 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:14:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Gryffindor crest completed!/ Weasley sweater
References: <apcc6e+7d0n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a401c27c95$7238eda0$ed9fcdd1@istu757>


> Ahh, I see it now, Richelle!  It looks great!  I can't believe you
> did that.  I've always admired people that could cross stitch - I've
> tried, and I just could not do it.
>
> Alora

Well, getting it sewn on straight onto the robe has turned out to be another
issue all together!  I took an email break, much needed.

> I ordered my Weasley sweater a few weeks ago from Pride and Joy
> online and I got it a few days ago.  It's so wonderful!  I got the
> cranberry colored one with my own initial on it and I feel like Mrs.
> Weasley knitted it just for me!  Isn't that silly?! :D  Call me
> crazy, but it was just too fun to pass up having a real Weasley
> sweater....er, or as close as you can get to it. If I can get a good
> pic of it, I'll upload it soon....

How cool is that!  For a fleeting moment as I was sewing things onto my robe
today I imagined myself as Molly Weasley.  But I don't suppose she ever sews
patches onto robes.  But you never know!

Richelle




From joym999 at aol.com  Sat Oct 26 02:12:01 2002
From: joym999 at aol.com (joywitch_m_curmudgeon)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:12:01 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
Message-ID: <apctlh+argk@eGroups.com>

I feel it is my curmudgeonly duty to point out that the death of 
Richard Harris, while sad, means that maybe future HP movies will 
actually have someone who can act playing Dumbledore.  Not that 
Richard Harris wasn't a good actor -- he was -- but he sucked in his 
Dumbledore role.

--Joywitch M. Curmudgeon




From Aegeus86 at aol.com  Sat Oct 26 02:17:13 2002
From: Aegeus86 at aol.com (Aegeus86 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:17:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris
Message-ID: <a9.300470a5.2aeb5529@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/25/2002 10:13:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
joym999 at aol.com writes:


> Not that 
> Richard Harris wasn't a good actor -- he was -- but he sucked in his 
> Dumbledore role.

Mostly because he didn't really want it.  It was a "gift for his 
grandaughter."  Which I do understand.

Maybe they'll get Ian McKellan ... 

~Aegeus






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From kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Oct 26 02:25:14 2002
From: kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:25:14 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris
References: <a9.300470a5.2aeb5529@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3DB9FD0A.000001.41723@monica>

Oh yes, Sir Ian would be fantastic. I think he'd make a much better
Dumbledore, RH didn't have enough of the life and whimsy I associate with
Dumbledore - although whether that was because his heart wasn't in it or
whether it was a result of the script/direction I'm not sure.
Sir Ian showed as Gandalf that he could switch from harmless eccentric to
scary kick-ass wizard and back again at will.

K

-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 26 October 2002 03:17:40
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris

In a message dated 10/25/2002 10:13:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
joym999 at aol.com writes:


> Not that 
> Richard Harris wasn't a good actor -- he was -- but he sucked in his 
> Dumbledore role.

Mostly because he didn't really want it. It was a "gift for his 
grandaughter." Which I do understand.

Maybe they'll get Ian McKellan ... 

~Aegeus






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From Aegeus86 at aol.com  Sat Oct 26 02:36:49 2002
From: Aegeus86 at aol.com (Aegeus86 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:36:49 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris
Message-ID: <b4.140ca2dc.2aeb59c1@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/25/2002 10:34:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk writes:


> Oh yes, Sir Ian would be fantastic. I think he'd make a much better
> Dumbledore, RH didn't have enough of the life and whimsy I associate with
> Dumbledore - although whether that was because his heart wasn't in it or
> whether it was a result of the script/direction I'm not sure.

While is heart wasn't in it I can also see Chris not directing Harris as much 
just because he is *Harris*

~Aegeus











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From witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 26 03:42:51 2002
From: witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com (Wanda the *B*Witch)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:42:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Adding our Saddness to the many who know!
Message-ID: <20021026034251.43033.qmail@web13708.mail.yahoo.com>


Just adding our saddness about Richard Harris, but happy he was at peace when he passed away. He will be remembered for his role of Albus Dumbledor, but I loved him as King Arthur years before! I thought he made a very great King Arthur, gravely voice and all! My prayers are with all his children and grandchildren. They have great memories of a very talented and funloving man!

Wanda the *B*Witch and Her Sad Muggles today!


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are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things
will happen; There will be something solid to stand on, or you will be
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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Sat Oct 26 04:12:33 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:12:33 -0000
Subject: H/Hr SHIP-Response
In-Reply-To: <MBBBIJLGHHKMCFCGKJCCIEEGCBAA.lauren.healy@tesco.net>
Message-ID: <apd4nh+86kb@eGroups.com>

 "Lauren Healy" wrote:
> I am reasonably happy to see Ron
> and Hermione together for a while, maybe end of 5th, start of 6th 
books, but
> then Harry and Hermione would end up together after a break up of 
R/Hr.
> It's a common thoery of most of my H/Hr friends (few that they 
are!)  But I
> can't speak for all H/Hr shippers.  I don't want to start shipper 
wars,
> because I've seen them turn nasty concerning other ships.
> 
> How do you mean, a GoF perspective?   

Now me:

   There are a lot of strange interactions going on within the Trio 
in this book.  During the World Cup, when both boys (who are sitting 
next to each other) are entranced by the veela, it's only Harry that 
Hermione pulls back into his seat.  It appears that both boys were 
in danger of going over the guard rail.  Later, when Ron becomes 
angry at Harry because he thinks Harry somehow put his name in the 
Goblet of Fire,  Hermione spends her time with Harry, but chastises 
both boys for their stubborness.  Hermione is constantly talking 
about Harry to Krum -- so much so that he questions Harry about a 
possible relationship, etc.  
    It has been a long time since I was fourteen, but I did have 
friends who were boys.  I felt very comfortable around them and I'd 
help them if I could like any of my female friends.  What I did NOT 
do was talk about any of my male friends to a boy I was interested 
in.  The person I wanted to talk about (to any friend who would 
listen) was the boy I was interested in.    What seems strange to me 
is that Hermione seems to be relating to Harry on two different 
levels, one as a friend, and the other as something more than a 
friend.  At the World Cup, Ron was as in as much danger as Harry. At 
the end of the second task, Krum had just rescued her, but she was 
all about Harry.  There are several other examples that I could 
cite.  As for Ron, she also seems split between being attracted to 
him and wanting to "mother" him in the way Mrs. Weasley does.
     Now, for my question, if you could put yourself in Hermione's 
place for a bit with all you know about the dynamics of the Trio, 
and being as close as you are to that age group,(although I know 
that seventeen is really light years from fourteen) do her 
interactions with Harry seem to be the way a fourteen-year-old girl 
would treat a very good male friend, or do you feel there is a bit 
of subtle foreshadowing on JKR's part? 

--Nia, who doesn't mind if you write a long response as you will 
officially join the Fellowship of the Long-Winded.




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Sat Oct 26 04:19:21 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:19:21 -0000
Subject: RIchard Harris
In-Reply-To: <apcb09+g22a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apd549+4tuf@eGroups.com>

Alora wrote:
> I'm hearing that Dumbledore has died.....this is so sad....

This was a terrible shock.  I was just the other day so happy that 
he seemed to be recovering nicely, and yesterday I viewed a clip in 
which he was chiding David Hayman that he shouldn't go looking for a 
replacement just yet.  I feel for his family, especially his 
grandchildren.  Such a loss.
--Nia :-(




From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 26 04:59:56 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:59:56 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris' death/ shocked and concerned
Message-ID: <apd7gc+5a09@eGroups.com>

I am shocked and saddened to hear the news of Richard Harris' death.

I also read recently that he was 'doing well', and was hoping that 
that was really true.  It's unfortunate that he took a turn for the 
worse.

I am particularly concerned about the kids . . . Dan, Rupert, Emma 
and all of those young actors who had the wonderful opportunity to 
work with him.  Regardless of his acting abilities, (or lack thereof 
in SS/PS, CoS, as some of you have written), I would think that he 
must have been an overwhelming presence for these new, young stars. I 
can imagine how upsetting this may be to them.  Unfortunately, they 
are also "growing up" in other ways as well by being connected to 
this film. 

And, not to mention his grandaughter, who's wish it was to have her 
grandfather play the wise old wizard. She is in my thoughts tonite.

My sympathies go out to his family, and all who knew him well.

Anna  . . .








From Zephyrjaid at aol.com  Sat Oct 26 08:59:33 2002
From: Zephyrjaid at aol.com (Zephyrjaid at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:59:33 -0400
Subject: 14-year-old Musings of H/H
Message-ID: <67274BD6.14636B3F.0D79A1AA@aol.com>

I'm a fourteen-year-old H/H shipper with several male friends and a deep connection with Hermione - thought you might want to hear what I think about her relationships with both Ron and Harry. :)

Hermione is a slightly exaggerated version of me. I spent eight years of my life as an only child and loved every minute of it - I was treated as the third adult in my family, which basically shaped who I am today. My mother stayed at home and my father traveled constantly, but when he was home, he was my brief peek at childhood. I had exquisite manners, an obsession with books (I adolized Lewis Carroll in third grade), and I dressed like a doll. Fine restaurants were - and still are - my favorite pastime. I hated television except for films - especially cartoons - and spent most of my time drawing and reading. Obviously, I was a weird child...mature, mature, mature. 

Many of my best friends through childhood have been male, mainly because I like films like The Matrix and Braveheart, which most all of the girls I know despise. I listen to punk music, read gory books, hate fawning and giggling and mindless crushes. Though I was the complete opposite of a tomboy - a total girly-girl in the sense that I adore clothes and hate sports - I related to boys on a much deeper level than with girls. And still do, really. 

My first crush was Leonardo DiCaprio when I was nine - Gilderoy Lockhart, say. As Hermione's passion is literature, mine is film. Lockhart (or so Hermione thought) was a brilliant author and presumably brought depth and realism to his books; I thought (and still think, BTW) that Leonardo DiCaprio was a brilliant actor and brought depth and realism to his roles. I admit that the crush was a tad ridiculous, but it gave me a focus and I learned about attraction and looking at males in a non-platonic way. I think Hermione experienced the same thing with Lockhart. 

After the crush subsided, I started wondering what it would be like to date my best friends - Shane and Josh. At the time, I really wasn't ready for dating, but it was interesting to think about. Now, I've always liked older guys who've accomplished a lot in their lifetime (Krum, anyone?) and I think that stems from the fact that, by nature, older men are more mature and have had an opportunity to really discover their inner selves. I like having someone I can talk to about difficult issues and even teenage boys can be considered teenyboppers without real conversational skills (unless it involves the latest band, I suppose.) It seems to me like Harry would accomplish more with his life than Ron because of his worldly outlook, but that's just me. If I put myself Hermione's shoes - and if I'm correct thinking that she likes the older Krum because of his more adult-like lifestyle and attitude - then Harry would have the ability and knowledge to offer to Hermione what Krum does. Hermione needs an equal.

Shane and Josh are a lot like Harry and Ron, as they love Lacrosse (or Quidditch), are on top of their schoolwork but aren't terribly worried about it, and they have me for a best friend. ;) I associate Shane with Harry. (Never mind the fact that he has green eyes and black hair.) He's an active Lacrosse player, he's a bit more serious and reserved than Josh, his sense of humor is quite morbid, and he has more of an interest in his surroundings. Josh, on the other hand, is a nutball. He's wisecracking and independent and couldn't sit still if someone nailed him to the floor. They're both quite loveable. I've always had more of a connection with Shane because he acts older than his years but still has a fun spirit. We talk about a more diverse range of topics and basically have the same outlook on life. But Josh is completely my protector and isn't afraid to say whatever he wants to someone who dislikes me. He's like Draco in a sense because he has money and thinks he owns everything, but he's fiercely loyal. Shane is the heartthrob; Josh is the epitome of popular. 

Obviously, both of them would be good contenders for boyfriends. Josh is a sweetheart and adores me (though God forbid he show it) and he has respect for people. I like that a lot, and could see myself dating him and having a nice romantic relationship because we do have things in common - even if they're completely obscure and not obvious. I feel like Hermione has a similar relationship with Ron, as they seem to have an *ahem* honest companionship and are comfortable enough to disagree without worrying about the consequences of opposing one another rather vehemently. 

If Josh were to suddenly start to show signs of liking me romantically, to be honest, I'd be very torn. I associate Shane and Josh with one whole - they're both my best friends. I'd feel like I was betraying one (namely Shane) for being the object of Josh's affection, but I'd also feel a great sense of flattery and giddyness, mainly because in my whacked mind, there are three levels on a padestal: low, medium and high. Low is respect, medium is friendship, and high is attraction. It would be completely amazing to be pushed up on the pedestal. I'd also be extremely possessive of Josh because I've always been deeply in tune with my own crushes and I would want Josh pay attention to no one but me, as I would with my own crush. Does that make sense? This is kind of how I see Hermione feeling about Ron. 

Onto the Shane-Harry thoughts. We have somewhat of a telepathic connection. We're both quiet (can you tell? *wink*) and we plan on going to the same university in Britain. Sometimes, we don't even have to talk and I feel like people know we're best friends just by the way we walk together.  He's a year older than I am and definitely edgier, but we're two feathers in the same wand. I can completely see myself marrying him one day - we already plan on living together - but it's really scary to think that, mainly because we *would* have a potentially successful relationship and could tolerate the practical issues of marriage (like living together). I don't see us having a romantic relationship in reality, but since that's the topic, I'd say he's the one I'd have a lasting relationship with.  

So it's really choosing between what's easy and what's right...Josh-Ron, the one that would severely get on my nerves but I'd have fun with for a while...or Shane-Harry, who's my hypothetical soul mate. (Keep in mind that soul mates come with extra soul-searching and difficulties in the package, but they last a lot longer than your normal run-of-the-mill 'product'.)

So...that's my fourteen-year-old point of view seen through Hermione's eyes somewhat. :) Hope all of that sounded rational. It makes sense to me, but I do have a very *interesting* way of looking at things.

Liz 
 

From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk  Sat Oct 26 09:48:36 2002
From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:48:36 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris - Headlines
Message-ID: <apdodk+90hi@eGroups.com>

A couple of our UK newspapers have announced his death by headlines 
saying 'Dumbledore is dead'.

Several radio and tv commentators have pointed out that this is an 
incredibly stupid headline, which is probably going to upset a lot 
of young HP fans. The presenter Jonathan Ross remarked it was rather 
like having a headline saying 'Santa Claus has died'.

Anyway, thanks to Joywitch for expressing what I was also thinking. 
Harris was a lovely, amusing, talented actor - but boy, was he 
phoning in his performance as Dumbledore in Philosopher's Stone. 

My sympathies are with his family and friends ( and his death upset 
me as well). We lost a great actor yesterday - but Dumbledore was 
not his greatest role.

Pip




From kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Oct 26 14:29:20 2002
From: kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:29:20 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris - Headlines
References: <apdodk+90hi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBAA6C0.000001.96713@monica>


I'm assuming this wasn't your first clue to the fact that the UK press can
on occasion be very very stupid! 
Everyone keeps saying that it's a shock because they'd heard he was
recovering, but I somehow managed to miss the fact that he was ill in the
first place! So I was very surprised when I heard the news.
I know I'll remember him as King Arthur rather than Dumbledore, I loved that
film. Hmmm, you know when famous actor's die the BBC usually tries to show
some of their work in a tribute .... Must make sure the video's working.

K
-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 26 October 2002 10:48:39
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris - Headlines

A couple of our UK newspapers have announced his death by headlines 
saying 'Dumbledore is dead'.

Several radio and tv commentators have pointed out that this is an 
incredibly stupid headline, which is probably going to upset a lot 
of young HP fans. The presenter Jonathan Ross remarked it was rather 
like having a headline saying 'Santa Claus has died'.

Anyway, thanks to Joywitch for expressing what I was also thinking. 
Harris was a lovely, amusing, talented actor - but boy, was he 
phoning in his performance as Dumbledore in Philosopher's Stone. 

My sympathies are with his family and friends ( and his death upset 
me as well). We lost a great actor yesterday - but Dumbledore was 
not his greatest role.

Pip


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sat Oct 26 15:01:47 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:01:47 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris - Headlines
References: <apdodk+90hi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00cd01c27d00$9bad67e0$3f9dcdd1@istu757>

Pip writes:

> A couple of our UK newspapers have announced his death by headlines
> saying 'Dumbledore is dead'.

I saw one on some UK website that said "Harry Potter Star Dies."
Fortunately, I already had heard Richard Harris died, or else I'd have
thought it was Daniel Radcliffe, or one of the other kids.  To me those are
the "Harry Potter stars."  They really need to take care with these
headlines, they may get some kids very traumatized.  You know what's kind of
weird?  I was at Wal-Mart buying the Lego set "Dumbledore's Office" within
minutes of when Richard Harris died.

Richelle




From htfulcher at comcast.net  Sat Oct 26 11:53:12 2002
From: htfulcher at comcast.net (marephraim)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:53:12 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris - Headlines
In-Reply-To: <apdodk+90hi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apdvn8+al5e@eGroups.com>

Eternal rest grant him,
May light perpetual surround him,
through the mercy of God may he rest in peace. Amen.





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Oct 27 00:00:10 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:00:10 -0000
Subject: V.I.P Birthdays! // recent death // Poem // HP calendar
Message-ID: <apfaaa+57si@eGroups.com>

My salutations are belated, but I hope you especially special 
people had wonderful days and will have wonderful years:

excitement, safety and promotions to Michelle the firefighter!

a starring role in a big movie to Jeralyn the voicelady!

Michelle the pingu wrote:

> This is so sad, and at all the press confrences they were just
> talking about how well he was doing. :(
> I just found it myself...this is a shock. I feel for his family.

I'm not as nice as you: MY first thought was who will be the 
replacement actor for Dumbledore, and will they have to change 
actors in the middle of a movie... only later did I think of the 
grand-daughter who had ordered him to take the role ...

Aegeus wrote:

> Maybe they'll get Ian McKellan ... 

That was my quick thought too!

Lenard Cohen sang (as quoted by Ayleyaell's sig):

"There is a crack in everything... 
That's how the light gets in." 

That by Oscar Wilde, in "The Ballad of Reading Gaol": "How else but 
through a broken heart can Lord Christ enter in?" Another line from 
that poem, "Each man kills the thing he loves", was intended strictly 
literarily: it's about a man in prison for having murdered his wife.  

I loved the subject line: HP calendar/skitt, as I got the 
impression of a skirt made out of a calendar.

Several HP calendars (movie and other) are on offer at 
www.calendars.com but I don't know if that website is on any 
shopping-for-charity programs. B&N can ab accessed through 
www.thechildhealthsite.com (click on the button and scroll down), 
and WB has ONE calendar on offer and can be accessed through 
FictionAlley at 
http://www.fictionalley.org//fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=
&threadid=11746 (look for the underlined words to click on) 




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 27 01:23:51 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:23:51 -0500
Subject: Pictures posted
Message-ID: <00a101c27d57$82b01600$2ba2cdd1@istu757>


I have posted pictures of me, in full Hermione get up, in a folder called "Costume pictures" on the HPFGU-OT Chatter site.  I got my mom to take pictures with my digital camera (she's not quite the best digital photographer, so some are a little fuzzy), and she went a little nuts.  Now I know what Emma Watson must feel like!  So, what do you think?!

Richelle

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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Sun Oct 27 01:25:23 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:25:23 -0000
Subject: 14-year-old Musings of H/H
In-Reply-To: <67274BD6.14636B3F.0D79A1AA@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apffa3+itq9@eGroups.com>

Liz wrote:
> I'm a fourteen-year-old H/H shipper with several male friends and 
a deep connection with Hermione - thought you might want to hear 
what I think about her relationships with both Ron and Harry. :)
<snip very interesting observations> So it's really choosing between 
what's easy and what's right...Josh-Ron, the one that would severely 
get on my nerves but I'd have fun with for a while...or Shane-Harry, 
who's my hypothetical soul mate. (Keep in mind that soul mates come 
with extra soul-searching and difficulties in the package, but they 
last a lot longer than your normal run-of-the-mill 'product'.)

This was the most intriguing observations of the GoF Trio 
relationships I've read.  You seem a very perceptive and intelligent 
person, Liz, and I tremendously enjoyed reading your post.  (Are you 
certain you're only fourteen?)  Your perspective substantiates some 
ideas that have been batted back and forth in an off-site discussion 
I've been engaged in.  Now, if only JKR could see things our way. 
;-).  Thanks again, for your wonderful imput!
--Nia 




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 02:53:46 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:53:46 -0000
Subject: Pictures posted
In-Reply-To: <00a101c27d57$82b01600$2ba2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apfkfq+svnf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> I have posted pictures of me, in full Hermione get up, in a folder 
called "Costume pictures" on the HPFGU-OT Chatter site.  I got my 
mom to take pictures with my digital camera (she's not quite the 
best digital photographer, so some are a little fuzzy), and she went 
a little nuts.  Now I know what Emma Watson must feel like!  So, 
what do you think?!
> 
> Richelle

Oh, Richelle!  You look great! :D  isn't it just so fun?!  My son 
and I were duelling the other day and we had a blast.  The only 
problem I had was he kept saying, "Expelliarmus"  and my wand would 
just fly out of my hand ;D.  My older son asked me, "Mom, why are 
you dressed up?"  I said, "Well, we grown ups don't get to have this 
much fun all the time, so I am going to have a blast on Halloween!"  
I don't think I have embarrassed them yet, but I am on my way.  
Hehehe.  You know, I want to go somewhere else on Halloween, just so 
I can wear my costume out and about.  Maybe the grocery store....I 
want to do it just to see if any HP fans recognize the costume! :D

Alora





From boggles at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 27 04:46:12 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:46:12 -0500
Subject: Robes thread from main list
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20021027021916.00972100@plum.cream.org>
References: <ap7uct+10q3u@eGroups.com>
 <4.2.0.58.20021027021916.00972100@plum.cream.org>
Message-ID: <p05010405b9e116992e6e@[66.167.189.251]>

At 3:58 AM +0000 10/27/02, GulPlum wrote:
>At 01:37 25/10/02 +0000, Steve wrote:
>  >a 'robe' by definition is an over or outer garment which implies some
>>undergarment beyond (in my opinion) underwear.
>
>I don't dispute that as a likely implication in the slightest. I do dispute
>it as a *necessary* implication, though. After all, "robe" came to English
>from the French for "dress"; whilst I would *expect* a male to wear
>something other than underwear underneath something designated a "robe", I
>wouldn't be surprised if he did not. For example, I know several real-world
>priests who don't wear anything else underneath their cassocks in summer.

I'm responding here on OTChatter because there is absolutely *no* 
canon in my post, but:

1) The most common use of "robe" 'round these parts is to refer to 
the thick cotton terrycloth thing one puts on after a bath.  It tends 
to close in front by a tie, and is most commonly worn IME with 
nothing on underneath it at all.  I have encountered people of both 
genders so attired.

2) Probably less relevant: there is a garment in my closet which is 
part of my religious wear; it was sewn and given to me by my high 
priestess from a very simple pattern.  It is a black cotton garment 
made essentially in the shape of a capital T with light serifs; the 
sleeves are full, and wider at the wrist than at the shoulder, while 
the body falls straight to the ankle.  It pulls over the head and is 
tied with its own fabric at the throat and with a sash (or, in our 
case, cord) at the waist.   It is very close to what I imagine Madam 
Malkin pulling over Harry's head in the robe shop, although I imagine 
that having a simple v-neck rather than the ties at the throat.  One 
can stash a wand in the sleeves, if one wishes; I've stashed an 11" 
candle-snuffer in mine.  It's very definitely a robe, and everyone 
calls it a robe.  And, in our circle, it is traditionally worn with 
nothing underneath.  If we lived in colder climes than Texas, it 
would be made of black wool instead of black cotton (and be far more 
expensive!), but the expectation would still be skyclad underneath 
the robe, or underwear at most, and we'd be a bit surprised to find 
someone wearing one with, say, sweatpants or jeans underneath. 
However, this is all religious tradition for us, and not relevant to 
the historical wearing of robes.

None of this would suggest that the majority of Wizarding World 
denizens don't wear something more than a breeze beneath their robes; 
only that it shouldn't be shocking that some of the older inhabitants 
don't . . .

-- 
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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 07:59:53 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:59:53 -0000
Subject: Pictures posted
In-Reply-To: <00a101c27d57$82b01600$2ba2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apg6dp+9hva@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> I have posted pictures of me, in full Hermione get up, in a folder 
called "Costume pictures" on the HPFGU-OT Chatter site.  I got my mom 
to take pictures with my digital camera (she's not quite the best 
digital photographer, so some are a little fuzzy), and she went a 
little nuts.  Now I know what Emma Watson must feel like!  So, what 
do you think?!

Richelle, you look amazing!  That is a GREAT costume.  And you have 
just the right expression on your face, too--properly pleased with 
yourself, like Hermione when she's the only person who knows the 
answer in class.

Amy Z




From karnasaur at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 15:26:00 2002
From: karnasaur at yahoo.com (Kristjan Arnason)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:26:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Harry is dull
In-Reply-To: <1035706565.539.71755.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021027152600.2934.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com>

First, I loved 14 year old Liz' post.  It was a
remarkably honest and fascinating description of how
the female mind, which at 30 I still don't understand,
works.  Oh!  Don't go out with either of them.  First
relationships never work.  Date another boy first.

Anyway, I was reading the Nocturne Alley site when I
realized something.  All the people in the game, or
whatever it is, seem to have their characters nailed. 
Ron is great.  Draco is hilarious.  Percy is
(intentionally) unintentionally hilarious.  He's my
favaourite, in fact.  And Harry is deadly dull.

And so is Harry in the books.  What interests does he
have?  What personality quirks does he displace? 
Apart from surviving an LV AK what makes him
interesting?  Okay, he's a seeker and all that, and he
defeated LV at the end of the first book because of
something in his skin, and defeated him again in the
second book because a pheonix showed up out of
nowhere, and saved the day in the third book after
Dumbledore strongly hinted that he should use
Hermione's Time Turner, and then survived LV again in
the fourth book due to some fluke involving the origin
of their wands, but so what?

Everything happens to Harry, but what does he really
do?  What initiative has he ever taken?

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest
that Moaning Myrtle and Mrs. Norris have displayed
more PERSONALITY than Harry Potter, The Boy Who Lived
To Bore Draco To Death, has.  Maybe it's just because
he's essentially the narrator, I don't know.

Take care,

Kris



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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 18:38:49 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:38:49 -0000
Subject: Harry is dull
In-Reply-To: <20021027152600.2934.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aphbrp+3d6c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Kristjan Arnason <karnasaur at y...> wrote:
> First, I loved 14 year old Liz' post.  It was a
> remarkably honest and fascinating description of how
> the female mind, which at 30 I still don't understand,
> works.  Oh!  Don't go out with either of them.  First
> relationships never work.  Date another boy first.
> 
> Anyway, I was reading the Nocturne Alley site when I
> realized something.  All the people in the game, or
> whatever it is, seem to have their characters nailed. 
> Ron is great.  Draco is hilarious.  Percy is
> (intentionally) unintentionally hilarious.  He's my
> favaourite, in fact.  And Harry is deadly dull.
> 
> And so is Harry in the books.  What interests does he
> have?  What personality quirks does he displace? 
> Apart from surviving an LV AK what makes him
> interesting?  Okay, he's a seeker and all that, and he
> defeated LV at the end of the first book because of
> something in his skin, and defeated him again in the
> second book because a pheonix showed up out of
> nowhere, and saved the day in the third book after
> Dumbledore strongly hinted that he should use
> Hermione's Time Turner, and then survived LV again in
> the fourth book due to some fluke involving the origin
> of their wands, but so what?
> 
> Everything happens to Harry, but what does he really
> do?  What initiative has he ever taken?
> 
> I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest
> that Moaning Myrtle and Mrs. Norris have displayed
> more PERSONALITY than Harry Potter, The Boy Who Lived
> To Bore Draco To Death, has.  Maybe it's just because
> he's essentially the narrator, I don't know.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Kris

Kris, you are dangerously on-topic here.  The Mods might have to send 
you a Howler.  

<g>  Just kidding, but this IS a topic about the books themselves, 
it's one that has been raised--and raised interesting conversations--
on the main list before, and it really belongs there.  Would you re-
post it over there?  The RPG part, if it were the point of the post, 
would be OT, but the canon point is thought-provoking and people on 
the main list might like to tackle it.

Amy Z
who finds Harry anything but dull




From kokobreen at juno.com  Sun Oct 27 18:56:39 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:56:39 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry is dull
Message-ID: <20021027.125640.-350631.0.kokobreen@juno.com>

I agree completely.  Harry in nocturne alley is seriously so dull I skip
his posts!  Draco is killer funny, Ron is great, the others are wonderful
too, but why is the main star so darn dull?

Christine


On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:38:49 -0000 "Amy Z" <lupinesque at yahoo.com> writes:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Kristjan Arnason <karnasaur at y...> wrote:
> > First, I loved 14 year old Liz' post.  It was a
> > remarkably honest and fascinating description of how
> > the female mind, which at 30 I still don't understand,
> > works.  Oh!  Don't go out with either of them.  First
> > relationships never work.  Date another boy first.
> > 
> > Anyway, I was reading the Nocturne Alley site when I
> > realized something.  All the people in the game, or
> > whatever it is, seem to have their characters nailed. 
> > Ron is great.  Draco is hilarious.  Percy is
> > (intentionally) unintentionally hilarious.  He's my
> > favaourite, in fact.  And Harry is deadly dull.
> > 
> > And so is Harry in the books.  What interests does he
> > have?  What personality quirks does he displace? 
> > Apart from surviving an LV AK what makes him
> > interesting?  Okay, he's a seeker and all that, and he
> > defeated LV at the end of the first book because of
> > something in his skin, and defeated him again in the
> > second book because a pheonix showed up out of
> > nowhere, and saved the day in the third book after
> > Dumbledore strongly hinted that he should use
> > Hermione's Time Turner, and then survived LV again in
> > the fourth book due to some fluke involving the origin
> > of their wands, but so what?
> > 
> > Everything happens to Harry, but what does he really
> > do?  What initiative has he ever taken?
> > 
> > I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest
> > that Moaning Myrtle and Mrs. Norris have displayed
> > more PERSONALITY than Harry Potter, The Boy Who Lived
> > To Bore Draco To Death, has.  Maybe it's just because
> > he's essentially the narrator, I don't know.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > 
> > Kris
> 
> Kris, you are dangerously on-topic here.  The Mods might have to 
> send 
> you a Howler.  
> 
> <g>  Just kidding, but this IS a topic about the books themselves, 
> it's one that has been raised--and raised interesting 
> conversations--
> on the main list before, and it really belongs there.  Would you re-
> post it over there?  The RPG part, if it were the point of the post, 
> 
> would be OT, but the canon point is thought-provoking and people on 
> the main list might like to tackle it.
> 
> Amy Z
> who finds Harry anything but dull
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From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct 27 19:19:19 2002
From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:19:19 -0000
Subject: Harry is dull
In-Reply-To: <20021027152600.2934.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aphe7n+d84t@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Kristjan Arnason <karnasaur at y...> wrote:
<Snip>
> 
> Anyway, I was reading the Nocturne Alley site when I
> realized something.  <Snip> And Harry is deadly dull.
>
Kristjan - I've replied to this on the main list because the reply 
was entirely about Book Harry. Which would make it off-topic for OT 
Chatter... [grin] 

Pip




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 27 19:37:50 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:37:50 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pictures posted
References: <apfkfq+svnf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <011e01c27df0$567c3980$f49fcdd1@istu757>

Alora writes:

> Oh, Richelle!  You look great! :D  isn't it just so fun?!  My son
> and I were duelling the other day and we had a blast.  The only
> problem I had was he kept saying, "Expelliarmus"  and my wand would
> just fly out of my hand ;D.  My older son asked me, "Mom, why are
> you dressed up?"  I said, "Well, we grown ups don't get to have this
> much fun all the time, so I am going to have a blast on Halloween!"
> I don't think I have embarrassed them yet, but I am on my way.
> Hehehe.  You know, I want to go somewhere else on Halloween, just so
> I can wear my costume out and about.  Maybe the grocery store....I
> want to do it just to see if any HP fans recognize the costume! :D

Thanks!  I really want to wear my costume elsewhere.  I will be going to the
post office that day.  Maybe I need to stop at Wal-Mart.  Hmm.  But I'll
probably back out and take it off as soon as I leave school!

Amy Z writes:

> Richelle, you look amazing!  That is a GREAT costume.  And you have
> just the right expression on your face, too--properly pleased with
> yourself, like Hermione when she's the only person who knows the
> answer in class.

Thanks Amy!  I was working on that expression, the bossy know it all, you
know. :)

Richelle




From Aegeus86 at aol.com  Sun Oct 27 20:31:57 2002
From: Aegeus86 at aol.com (Aegeus86 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:31:57 EST
Subject: Chat
Message-ID: <1c6.af6598.2aeda73d@aol.com>

Heh.  The HPfGU website (and chat) isn't working, so a bunch of us have 
formed the chat in the old room.  Come and have fun with us!

~Aegeus











From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Sun Oct 27 20:33:23 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:33:23 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Chat
In-Reply-To: <1c6.af6598.2aeda73d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c27df8$1cfba350$7ac5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 

W here is it? I would love to chat! 
 
Jennifer  


Heh.  The HPfGU website (and chat) isn't working, so a bunch of us have 
formed the chat in the old room.  Come and have fun with us!

~Aegeus










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From mdemeran at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 27 20:44:22 2002
From: mdemeran at hotmail.com (Meg Demeranville)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:44:22 -0000
Subject: Chat
In-Reply-To: <000001c27df8$1cfba350$7ac5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <aphj76+ak11@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer R. Wilson" <jenw118 at H...> 
> W here is it? I would love to chat! 
>  
> Jennifer  

It's the Yahoo chat room. Join any Yahoo chat room, then type "/join 
hp:1" without the " marks. Spread the word. We couldn't find a Mod to 
help us out with this.

Meg




From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Sun Oct 27 20:47:33 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:47:33 -0600
Subject: Richelle's pictures
Message-ID: <000601c27dfa$176583a0$7ac5fbd8@oemcomputer>

Wow, I just got the chance to look at the pictures of Richelle in
costume, and it looks great!  
 
So will you be wearing it to the premiers?  Or anywhere else besides the
school on Halloween? 
 
Things are up in the air with my robe-may or may not get it done, oh
well...
 
Jennifer
 
P.S. Quick apology to the mods-so sorry for not clipping the debris off
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From zeff8 at attbi.com  Sun Oct 27 23:59:13 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:59:13 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Chat
References: <aphj76+ak11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004301c27e14$d9e67500$d00df50c@attbi.com>

naw, do a HP chat on Paltalk, cause the rooms are moderated there.
Yahoo sucks, when it comes to chat rooms..  too many morons come in and
disrupt the conversations

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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 3:44 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Chat


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer R. Wilson" <jenw118 at H...>
> > W here is it? I would love to chat!
> >
> > Jennifer
>
> It's the Yahoo chat room. Join any Yahoo chat room, then type "/join
> hp:1" without the " marks. Spread the word. We couldn't find a Mod to
> help us out with this.
>
> Meg
>
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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Oct 28 00:30:44 2002
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:30:44 -0000
Subject: Chat
In-Reply-To: <004301c27e14$d9e67500$d00df50c@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <api0fk+km0b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "zeff8" <zeff8 at a...> wrote:
> naw, do a HP chat on Paltalk, cause the rooms are moderated there.
> Yahoo sucks, when it comes to chat rooms..  too many morons come in
> and disrupt the conversations

Today no disruptive morons came in ... but some people had a lot of 
troubling logging in and some people got bounced constantly ... it 
wasn't as bad as I recall Yahoo!chat having been when we left ... 




From Schlobin at aol.com  Mon Oct 28 05:55:53 2002
From: Schlobin at aol.com (susanmcgee48176)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:55:53 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <b4.140ca2dc.2aeb59c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apijh9+jie3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Aegeus86 at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/25/2002 10:34:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> kcawte at b... writes:
> 
> 
> > Oh yes, Sir Ian would be fantastic. I think he'd make a much 
better
> > Dumbledore, RH didn't have enough of the life and whimsy I 
associate with
> > Dumbledore - although whether that was because his heart wasn't 
in it or
> > whether it was a result of the script/direction I'm not sure.
> 
> While is heart wasn't in it I can also see Chris not directing 
Harris as much 
> just because he is *Harris*
> 
> ~Aegeus
> 
> 


Or Chris not directing him well because he's a lousy director...

Harris was not very good as Dumbledore, I agree, no humor or 
whimsy..but now perhaps we could think that maybe he was ill


McKellan would be perfect, but perhaps he's concerned that he might 
be type cast as a wizard....

He was SO good as Gandalf.....

Susan McGee
Ann Arbor, Michigan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From Schlobin at aol.com  Mon Oct 28 05:57:35 2002
From: Schlobin at aol.com (susanmcgee48176)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:57:35 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <b4.140ca2dc.2aeb59c1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apijkg+bi8b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Aegeus86 at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/25/2002 10:34:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> kcawte at b... writes:
> 
> 
> > Oh yes, Sir Ian would be fantastic. I think he'd make a much 
better
> > Dumbledore, RH didn't have enough of the life and whimsy I 
associate with
> > Dumbledore - although whether that was because his heart wasn't 
in it or
> > whether it was a result of the script/direction I'm not sure.
> 
> While is heart wasn't in it I can also see Chris not directing 
Harris as much 
> just because he is *Harris*
> 
> ~Aegeus
> 
> 


Or Chris not directing him well because he's a lousy director...

Harris was not very good as Dumbledore, I agree, no humor or 
whimsy..but now perhaps we could think that maybe he was ill


McKellan would be perfect, but perhaps he's concerned that he might 
be type cast as a wizard....

He was SO good as Gandalf.....

Susan McGee
Ann Arbor, Michigan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 09:38:32 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:38:32 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris's claim to fame
Message-ID: <apj0io+dk2f@eGroups.com>

What I didn't know about Harris until he died was that he 
wrote "MacArthur Park."  HE WROTE IT!  HE'S the twisted genius who 
wrote that thing about leaving the cake out in the rain, and how long 
it took to bake it!  I feel as if a cultural icon sailed past me and 
I didn't even know it.  I've never even *heard* that darn song and I 
still know those legendary lines, which qualify him as either the 
worst or best songwriter of all time, depending whom you ask.

Amy Z




From amy at pressroom.com  Mon Oct 28 16:08:56 2002
From: amy at pressroom.com (Amy Gourley)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:08:56 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richard Harris's claim to fame
References: <apj0io+dk2f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c27e9c$57d574c0$b17ba8c0@amy>

Amy Z writes:

> What I didn't know about Harris until he died was that he
> wrote "MacArthur Park."  HE WROTE IT!  HE'S the twisted genius who
> wrote that thing about leaving the cake out in the rain, and how long
> it took to bake it!

I know-I couldn't believe when my mother-in-law told me a while ago that
Richard Harris wrote it-I asked the Richard Harris, Dumbledore and she said
yes. I don't know much about his younger days so I was shocked. Weird Al
does a funny parody of MacArthur Park called Jurassic Park.

Amy G.





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Mon Oct 28 18:00:57 2002
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (dfrankiswork at netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:00:57 -0500
Subject: Dull Harry?
Message-ID: <4B236EE0.27715281.6E93A4F5@netscape.net>

In HPFGU, Pip listed questions that Harry doesn't ask.

Oddly enough, I bumped into a disgruntled Ms Skeeter the other day, who claimed to be in possession of a Potter scoop which the Daily Prophet had refused to publish "... because those whining sycophants won't do anything to upset JK Rowling".  I naturally offered to help out in any way I could, and so I put forward the extract below as a contribution to the discussion.  It apparently concerns an early draft of Goblet of Fire.  From the context it must come from Dumbledore's debriefing of Harry at the end of the book.

------------------------------------------------------

Harry glanced from Sirius' face, which looked even more waxy than usual in the glow, to the shadows of Dumbledore's eyebrows etched on the ceiling.

"Professor," he said, "you just glinted.  Why did you do that?"

"No, Harry, that wasn't a glint, it was a gleam.  Entirely different.  Please go on with your story."

"But, Professor, it looked distinctly like a glint, or possibly even a glow, of triumph.  In the context, it seemed inappropriate.  Why not a glare of rage, or even a glitter of frustration, of the type pioneered by Professor Snape?  It's offputting and bound to result in confusion."

"Well, between you and me, Harry, it's one of my more irritating habits, and that's saying something.  I call it the oculus illuminatus effect.  It's absurdly simple to do: just a magically enhanced twinkle.  But I find it very effective when the occasion requires.  But explanations can wait.  It's essential for your eventual healing that you tell me everything while I continue to keep you in the dark, except when I gleam, of course, ha-ha."

Harry could tell from the way Sirius' knuckles whitened that he appreciated Dumbledore's little joke, and decided not to argue.
---------------------------------------------------------

When I asked why this passage was omitted from the published version of the book, Ms Skeeter became uncharacteristically evasive and muttered something about needing to fly.

Statistica Stein
Vice-President
Frankis & Stein
Infurn Alley
London

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From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 18:58:21 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (Fyre Wood)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:58:21 -0000
Subject: Pictures posted
In-Reply-To: <00a101c27d57$82b01600$2ba2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apk1cd+eeh7@eGroups.com>

Richelle Votaw Originally Posted:

>>>> I have posted pictures of me, in full Hermione get up, in a 
folder called "Costume pictures" on the HPFGU-OT Chatter site.  I got 
my mom to take pictures with my digital camera (she's not quite the 
best digital photographer, so some are a little fuzzy), and she went 
a little nuts.  Now I know what Emma Watson must feel like!  So, what 
do you think?!<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Fyre Wood (me) replies:

Wow, that looks almost identical to what Hermione looks like. Very 
very cool!

I actually just got done with my Slytherin outfit. I guess I'm going 
as Pansy Parkinson for both Halloween and to the CoS movie. My mother 
still needs to take pics of me though. My costume isn't quite exact 
to what the movie ones look like (aka: my robe is more of what the 
hobbits would have because our stupid fabric store was "conviently" 
out of the patterns!).

Anyways, I like the robe and hope that others of you will post your 
pics!! 

Btw, I used the pattern for a cheerleading skirt to make my skirt. It 
works just as well as a school girl skirt!

--Fyre Wood, who has nothing witty to say as usual here... oh wait, 
HEY GAIL!




From smiller_92407 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 17:57:21 2002
From: smiller_92407 at yahoo.com (Susan Miller)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:57:21 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris's claim to fame
In-Reply-To: <apj0io+dk2f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apjtq1+2qsc@eGroups.com>

Amy Z wrote:
> What I didn't know about Harris until he died was that he 
> wrote "MacArthur Park."  HE WROTE IT!  

Nope, sorry. It was Jim Webb, who also wrote "Up, Up and Away" (in my 
beautiful baloon)


--Susan




From smiller_92407 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 18:03:16 2002
From: smiller_92407 at yahoo.com (Susan Miller)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:03:16 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris's claim to fame
In-Reply-To: <006d01c27e9c$57d574c0$b17ba8c0@amy>
Message-ID: <apju54+9ikg@eGroups.com>

Amy Gourley wrote:
I couldn't believe when my mother-in-law told me a while ago that
> Richard Harris wrote it-I asked the Richard Harris, Dumbledore and 
she said
> yes.> 
> Amy G.

I don't know how that rumor got started, but your mother-in-law is 
incorrect, sorry. It was Jimmy Webb who wrote the tune and the 
lyrics. JW also wrote By the time I get to Phoenix, Wichita Lineman 
and Up, Up and Away.

I think the confusion is that Jimmy Webb is sometimes confused with 
Harry Webb who goes by the name Cliff Richard. How we get from Cliff 
Richard to Richard Harris, I don't know. Jimmy Webb wrote the twisted 
song about soggy cakes.

~ Constance Vigilance





From amy at pressroom.com  Mon Oct 28 19:54:29 2002
From: amy at pressroom.com (Amy Gourley)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:29 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Richard Harris's claim to fame
References: <apju54+9ikg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <034a01c27ebb$d400c6c0$b17ba8c0@amy>

>> I don't know how that rumor got started, but your mother-in-law is
> incorrect, sorry. It was Jimmy Webb who wrote the tune and the
> lyrics. JW also wrote By the time I get to Phoenix, Wichita Lineman
> and Up, Up and Away.

Ok, but Richard Harris sang it, right? I could be mistaken about him writing
it.  He did have something to do with it unless I am totally wrong.

Amy





From jfaulkne at sas.upenn.edu  Mon Oct 28 21:01:36 2002
From: jfaulkne at sas.upenn.edu (Jen Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:01:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Richard Harris's claim to fame
In-Reply-To: <034a01c27ebb$d400c6c0$b17ba8c0@amy>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0210281557270.619-100000@mail1.sas.upenn.edu>

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Amy Gourley wrote:

> Ok, but Richard Harris sang it, right? I could be mistaken about him writing
> it.  He did have something to do with it unless I am totally wrong.

It was indeed Richard Harris who sang it (and Googling will often give
you only his name associated with it), but he was not the one to
actually pen those immortal *snerks* lyrics.  The song was originally,
it seems, supposed to have been sung by the Association, but they passed
on it, and Webb gave the song to his drinking buddy Harris instead.

--jen, fount of useless trivia to be acquired on the web :)

* * * * * *
Jen's HP fics:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jfaulkne/fan/hp.html
Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash
Yes, I *am* the Deictrix.




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 21:57:03 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:57:03 -0000
Subject: How to post a web link properly
Message-ID: <apkbrf+950k@eGroups.com>

Well this is about as off topic as you can get, but it's something
that really annoys me, although I'm sure it's something most people
aren't aware of.

When you post a web link (Link to a web page) that extends beyond the
margin or 'wrap' column, part of the link will be cut off, and that
means  anyone selecting that link will get an error. The link won't be
valid because part of it is missing.

example: 

http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/Topics/Hardware/hwddresctr.asp?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0

To fix this, you need to UNCHECK the box above the send button that says-
[ ] Wrap message text

If I am correct, the link above should visually wrap but it won't have
a line feed inserted in it and the link will stay whole and workable.

If I'm wrong then the moderators will finish tying that rope into a
hangman's noose and come looking for me.

In all the HPFGU groups we get a lot of links to interview, stories,
photos, reference material, etc. The problem is, most of them don't
work for the reason I have pointed out above. 

An alternate solution when you come across a broke link is to cut and
paste it into a text editor and remove the line breaks so it is one
long continuous line, then cut and paste it back into the address line
of your web browser.

Just something to think about.

bboy_mn






From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 22:44:56 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:44:56 -0000
Subject: How to post a web link properly
In-Reply-To: <apkbrf+950k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apkel8+gldc@eGroups.com>

Well, it appears that I must eat my word, and leave town to avoid my
own linching.

YaBooHooHoo is absolutely determined to break long lines no matter
what you do.

But I did notice that if I have unchecked [ ] Wrap message text whne
you post, when you REPLY to that message, the web link line of text
will be unbroken in the REPLY text edit window. So that might be one
way to get an unbroken line of text that you can cut ant paste into
the address line of your browser.

I find it very frustrating when links don't work and it's not alway
crystal clear that they have been broken. Obviously, YaBooHooHoo is
conspiring against us.

At any rate, if you come across links that don't work, then the only
alternative is to cut and past them into NotePad or some other text
editor and reconnect the broken line.

Sorry, for the interruption and the confusion.

bboy_mn




From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 23:35:17 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:35:17 -0000
Subject: Amys causing trouble
In-Reply-To: <apju54+9ikg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apkhjl+7uh8@eGroups.com>

Susan Miller wrote:

> I don't know how that rumor got started, but your mother-in-law is 
> incorrect, sorry. It was Jimmy Webb who wrote the tune and the 
> lyrics. JW also wrote By the time I get to Phoenix, Wichita Lineman 
> and Up, Up and Away.

Mea culpa, and Amy G. and her mother-in-law and I will go to the 
corner and eat ruined cake.  I did see it on some fan site from 
someone who LOVES "MacArthur Park," so I figured they'd have it 
right.  However, I have just checked ASCAP, who should know, and it 
says the same thing Susan does.

Amy Z
who only knew about the Donna Summer version




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Tue Oct 29 00:19:59 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:19:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Chat
References: <api0fk+km0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <014601c27ee0$eb1cc320$d00df50c@attbi.com>

Yeah, well from time to time I go back to it, but for the most part, I hang
out on Paltalk now.. ITs great to bounce (kick out) the morons who come in
to raise heck.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at wicca.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Chat


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "zeff8" <zeff8 at a...> wrote:
> > naw, do a HP chat on Paltalk, cause the rooms are moderated there.
> > Yahoo sucks, when it comes to chat rooms..  too many morons come in
> > and disrupt the conversations
>
> Today no disruptive morons came in ... but some people had a lot of
> troubling logging in and some people got bounced constantly ... it
> wasn't as bad as I recall Yahoo!chat having been when we left ...
>
>
>
> ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________
>
> Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files!
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/
>
> Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material
from posts to which you're replying!
>
> Is your message...
> An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements.
> Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie.
> Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups.
> None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter.
> Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods --
MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com
>
> Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com
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>
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>
>
>




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct 29 01:07:34 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:07:34 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Richelle's pictures
References: <000601c27dfa$176583a0$7ac5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <00c701c27ee7$9e5f8340$209ccdd1@istu757>

Jennifer writes:

> Wow, I just got the chance to look at the pictures of Richelle in
> costume, and it looks great!

Thank you!  I took some pictures to my friend's house Saturday (she's a big
HP fan) and she loved it!

> So will you be wearing it to the premiers?  Or anywhere else besides the
> school on Halloween?

I kind of doubt it.  Although I'm making everything permanent on it so that
I can keep it for future reference.  Who knows, maybe to the midnight
opening for OoP?

Fyre Wood replies:

> Wow, that looks almost identical to what Hermione looks like. Very
> very cool!

Thanks!  Now I must tell the tale of the tie.  As some of you may remember,
I had looked EVERYWHERE for the right tie.  Other than the $40 at Dillards
that I refused to buy, there was none at all.  Well, finally as a last
resort I went through a box of ties my aunt had sent to my cousin, who
rarely wears ties.  No gold and burgandy striped, but there was a solid
burgandy, patterned with stripes.  So, I bought gold ribbon, and followed
the patterned stripes in the burgandy to make it gold and burgandy striped!
I was pretty impressed with the outcome, if I do say so myself.  Though I
must say, who invented ties?  They are most uncomfortable!  Of course, men
don't have to wear high heels either.

> I actually just got done with my Slytherin outfit. I guess I'm going
> as Pansy Parkinson for both Halloween and to the CoS movie. My mother
> still needs to take pics of me though. My costume isn't quite exact
> to what the movie ones look like (aka: my robe is more of what the
> hobbits would have because our stupid fabric store was "conviently"
> out of the patterns!).

Well, close enough.  If a college graduation robe will do, why not a hobbit
robe? :)
Everyone remember to take lots of pictures to post!  I want to see them!

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From editor at texas.net  Tue Oct 29 04:19:02 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:02 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Richard Harris
References: <apijh9+jie3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c27f02$509688a0$7004a6d8@texas.net>

The McGee (where you been?) said

> Harris was not very good as Dumbledore, I agree, no humor or
> whimsy..but now perhaps we could think that maybe he was ill

Or that he refused to read the books and thus kept himself from a great
source of characterization, for which I still do not understand his
rationale.

> McKellan would be perfect, but perhaps he's concerned that he might
> be type cast as a wizard....
>
> He was SO good as Gandalf.....

Which is *precisely* the reason he'd be a bad choice as Dumbledore. It would
be Hogwarts with Gandalf wandering around. I defy anyone to tell me that Ian
McKellen with long white hair and beard, no matter if you dress him in a
cocktail gown and tiara, would be *anyone* but Gandalf now. They need
someone else. (someone like Peter O'Toole...)

~Amanda





From jmmears at comcast.net  Tue Oct 29 04:38:10 2002
From: jmmears at comcast.net (serenadust)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:38:10 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <006a01c27f02$509688a0$7004a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apl3bi+8s28@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> The McGee (where you been?) said
> 
> > Harris was not very good as Dumbledore, I agree, no humor or
> > whimsy..but now perhaps we could think that maybe he was ill


Amanda added: 
> Or that he refused to read the books and thus kept himself from a 
great
> source of characterization, for which I still do not understand his
> rationale.

>From everything I've read and seem about Harris in articles and TV 
interviews, he simply *gloried* in being an ornery cuss all his 
life. Not reading the book seemed to me to be his characteristic 
resistance to being a "good boy."  For all the talent he had, I 
never thought that he took his gift very seriously.  I don't really 
think that he was the sort of actor who puts out all that much 
effort into getting a performance just right (unlike Rickman who 
seems to take his work very seriously in everything he does). There 
was even an anecdote in the Leaky Cauldron recently concerning his 
asking his agent if there way any way out of the 7 film HP 
committment (about which he constantly moaned) and the agent said 
something like, "yes there is...death."
I wonder if Harris just called his bluff.



The McGee again:
 
> > McKellan would be perfect, but perhaps he's concerned that he 
might
> > be type cast as a wizard....
> >
> > He was SO good as Gandalf.....

Then Amanda:
> Which is *precisely* the reason he'd be a bad choice as 
Dumbledore. It would
> be Hogwarts with Gandalf wandering around. I defy anyone to tell 
me that Ian
> McKellen with long white hair and beard, no matter if you dress 
him in a
> cocktail gown and tiara, would be *anyone* but Gandalf now. They 
need
> someone else. (someone like Peter O'Toole...)


I must agree with you here, Amanda.  I also truly doubt that 
McKellen would take the part after 3 consecutive (or one continuous) 
wizard role(s).  I really like your Peter O'Toole suggestion and 
wish I had thought of him.  He could be a delightful Dumbledore. I 
haven't seen him in anything lately, so I hope he's well.


Jo Serenadust, highly impressed with Amanda's casting record and 
hoping she's right again














From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 05:54:11 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (Fyre Wood)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:54:11 -0000
Subject: For those looking for Harry Potter patches for Robes
In-Reply-To: <00c701c27ee7$9e5f8340$209ccdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apl7q3+hq6i@eGroups.com>

I just wanted to clue you guys in that eBay has all of the house 
patches for sale on there. You'll have to do a search for the name of 
the house you want and then also put "house patch" in the search bar.

I was able to get mine for 13.99 and it'll be shipped to me by 
thursday. They're exact replicas of the ones used in the movie, and 
oh so much easier than making one by hand.

Btw, I actually made my own tie out of fabric. I mean, the costume is 
all handmade and looks sooo silly. Darn camera... I wish i could get 
the pics developed!

--Fyre Wood, who is wearing her Slytherin tie right now =)




From nplyon at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 05:54:20 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:54:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Nocturne Alley/RPGs
Message-ID: <20021029055420.55028.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com>

I've just been spending some time over at Nocturne
Alley and I really enjoyed what I read there!  The
Malfoy family is especially amusing.  Does anyone know
if there are other RPG communities similar to this?  I
love to write and think something like this would be
lots of fun.  Too bad Nocturne Alley doesn't have any
openings at the moment!  Anyway, I highly recommend
reading the Nocturne Alley Live Journal.  It's *very*
amusing!

~Nicole, who can never get enough of HP-related
diversions.  :)

=====
*****************************************************************
      "You haven't got a letter on yours," George observed.  
        "I suppose she thinks you don't forget your name.  
  But we're not stupid--we know we're called Gred and Forge." 

      Chapter 12, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"
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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 06:00:40 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:00:40 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <006a01c27f02$509688a0$7004a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apl868+hj59@eGroups.com>

Amandageist wrote:
 
> Or that he refused to read the books and thus kept himself from a 
great
> source of characterization

He also kept himself from a great experience.  Isn't it our 
collective worst nightmare that we'll die before reading the last 
word of Book 7?  (Well, the second-to-last word.  We know the last 
one.  ;-) )  Imagine inflicting that on oneself deliberately!

But of course, when one arrives at the pearly gates, one is handed a 
pile of all seven books (in heaven, they've been written already) and 
shown to a lovely pillowy cloud in a cozy corner, there to read to 
one's heart's content.  Enjoy, Richard.

Amy




From virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 15:43:45 2002
From: virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com (Megan)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:45 -0000
Subject: Help? TLC not working?
Message-ID: <apmabh+8k1d@eGroups.com>

Is anyone else having trouble accessing The Leaky Cauldron lately?  I
have not been able to load it for the past two days!  Everytime I
enter the address, it tries to redirect it to
http://falcon.matissa.net, which does not exist (according to my
browser anyway).  I feel like I'm going withdrawel.

Anyone know what the deal is? :-(

*missing her HP news-fix*

-Megan




From Dar20 at aol.com  Tue Oct 29 16:29:27 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:29:27 -0000
Subject: Harry is dull
In-Reply-To: <20021027152600.2934.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apmd17+j6pu@eGroups.com>

Where can I find the Nocturne Alley site you speak of?

Dar




From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Tue Oct 29 17:13:42 2002
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:13:42 -0000
Subject: Help? TLC not working?
In-Reply-To: <apmabh+8k1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apmfk6+dcmo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Megan" wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble accessing The Leaky Cauldron
> lately?  I have not been able to load it for the past two
> days!  Everytime I enter the address, it tries to redirect
> it to http://falcon.matissa.net, which does not exist
> (according to my browser anyway).  I feel like I'm going
> withdrawel.
> 
> Anyone know what the deal is? :-(

Have you tried clearing your computer's cache?  There were reports a 
short time ago that The Leaky Cauldron was having problems after a 
server-change, because TLC's ISP apparently had made a typo when 
changing the DNS-information about which server the URL should point 
to.  These problems have been corrected - I certainly don't have 
problems accessing the site anymore - but your browser may 
still "remember" the incorrect information.  

Best regards
Christian Stub?




From john at queerasjohn.com  Tue Oct 29 17:14:23 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:14:23 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help? TLC not working?
In-Reply-To: <apmabh+8k1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B9E4726F.48ED%john@queerasjohn.com>

Megan said:

> Is anyone else having trouble accessing The Leaky Cauldron lately?  I
> have not been able to load it for the past two days!  Everytime I
> enter the address, it tries to redirect it to
> http://falcon.matissa.net, which does not exist (according to my
> browser anyway).  I feel like I'm going withdrawel.

Yeah, for some reason the root server is being directed to
falcon.mantissa.net. You'll need to include the www to get to TLC -- i.e.,
this link: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org

HTH.

--John

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From snowwy54 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 17:06:46 2002
From: snowwy54 at yahoo.com (Susan Snow)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:06:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help? TLC not working?
In-Reply-To: <apmabh+8k1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021029170646.17660.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com>

Megan,

Just add www. in front of the-leaky-cauldron.org


--- Megan <virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble accessing The Leaky
> Cauldron lately?  I
> have not been able to load it for the past two days!


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From NOTaMuggleFamily at aol.com  Tue Oct 29 17:21:41 2002
From: NOTaMuggleFamily at aol.com (NOTaMuggleFamily at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:21:41 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help? TLC not working?
Message-ID: <9f.2f931d6a.2af01da5@aol.com>

Try http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/

Seems like it needs the www, which was not in the addy before.
~MsSL
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From virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 19:09:59 2002
From: virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com (Megan)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:09:59 -0000
Subject: Help? TLC not working?
In-Reply-To: <B9E4726F.48ED%john@queerasjohn.com>
Message-ID: <apmme7+9q0a@eGroups.com>

Thanks so much everyone who replied!  I didn't even think to try the
'www'...*duh*.  I've now got my HP fix back and can be happy again! 
Hee...

Back to lurkdom :-P

-Megan

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Queer as John <john at q...> wrote:
> Megan said:
> 
> > Is anyone else having trouble accessing The Leaky Cauldron lately?  I
> > have not been able to load it for the past two days!  Everytime I
> > enter the address, it tries to redirect it to
> > http://falcon.matissa.net, which does not exist (according to my
> > browser anyway).  I feel like I'm going withdrawel.
> 
> Yeah, for some reason the root server is being directed to
> falcon.mantissa.net. You'll need to include the www to get to TLC --
i.e.,
> this link: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org
> 
> HTH.
> 
> --John
> 
> ______________________________________
> 
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> 
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> 
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> ______________________________________




From sally at gristiegraphics.co.uk  Tue Oct 29 19:34:03 2002
From: sally at gristiegraphics.co.uk (sallygrist)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:03 -0000
Subject: Dull Harry?
In-Reply-To: <4B236EE0.27715281.6E93A4F5@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <apmnrb+orjt@eGroups.com>

In response to Dave's Potter scoop on the questions Harry doesn't 
ask, thanks Dave for making me laugh so much I cried!! 
You just cheered up my day beyond belief!!!

Sal





From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 21:30:28 2002
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:30:28 -0000
Subject: Dull Harry?
In-Reply-To: <4B236EE0.27715281.6E93A4F5@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <apmulk+f2nt@eGroups.com>

David's veep reported:

> In HPFGU, Pip listed questions that Harry doesn't ask.
> 
> Oddly enough, I bumped into a disgruntled Ms Skeeter the other day, 
>who claimed to be in possession of a Potter scoop 

Wait, come back, Ms. Skeeter!  What about when Harry asked Lupin why 
he wasn't in any of his parents' wedding photos, and who were those 
other people, anyhow?  What about when he asked Hagrid what precisely 
made his dad and Sirius the second worst pair of Hogwarts 
troublemakers in sixty years?  What about when he asked Sirius what 
his mother was like?  We *know* you have this information.  
Statistica, go after her!

> When I asked why this passage was omitted from the published 
>version of the book, Ms Skeeter became uncharacteristically evasive 
>and muttered something about needing to fly.

ROTFL!

Amy
who suspects the president of Frankis & Stein had a long evening in a 
hotel room again and wishes it would happen more often




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 21:48:30 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:48:30 -0000
Subject: Magic Cities and Muggle Magic - Thoughts?
Message-ID: <apmvne+87hg@eGroups.com>

Since this is all in the realm of pure speculation, I don't dare ask
it in the main group.

Speculation-
Do you think that every major city has a magic city like Diagon Alley
hidden within it?

Is there a street in Chicago, where discreetly between a Pizza shop
and a Soul Food restaurant, we find a little pub hidden from the view
of mere muggles called "Smokey's Smokin' Cauldron - Wizard Blues and
Magical BBQ Ribs"? I'd actually like to go to that place.

It would seem logical, but with all the uncertainly around the size of
the UK wizard population, could the wizard world support another dozen
Magical Cities in the UK?

While we are on the topic of magic cities, it would seem that Diagon
Alley is not a city but a street; the equvalent of High Street or Main
Street. So would you speculate that Diagon Alley is the heart of a
tiny magical village, or is there a whole magical city there; broom
factories, book publishers, cauldron foundaries, import/export
warehouses, produce distributors, etc...; all the businesses necessary
to make any city run? 

Pondering that brings up the question of residential areas. Where is
Malfoy Manor? Is there a posh magic city neighborhood where all the
rich have their manors and mansions? Are there expanses of houses
where  common working men live? Suburbs? Parks? A red light district?

Thoughts?

Muggle Magic-
Random point of trivia:
Did you know that there are about 150 muggle magic societies, clubs,
and organizations in the UK. Really! There is actually one on Charing
Cross Road. I was doing some research for a story I'm thinking about
writing where Harry and Ron put together a comedy magic stage act to
promote some products they sell in the muggle market (Harry Potter's
Ginger Cream Ice Cream and Harry Potter's Wizards Brew - all Natural
Ginger Ale/Beer). So I needed a place where Harry could take Ron and
show him what muggle stage magic looked like. So I began to research,
lo and behold, I found a list of about 150 magical societies, clubs,
and organizations. Who knew the muggles were so interested in magic? 

Did you know that Prince Charles - Heir to the Throne - is a magician
and a member of one of these Magic Clubs. To maintain his membership,
he must perform at least once a year. 

OK, it's just worthless trivia, but it's still fun stuff to know.

bboy_mn




From john at queerasjohn.com  Tue Oct 29 22:48:45 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:48:45 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magic Cities and Muggle Magic - Thoughts?
In-Reply-To: <apmvne+87hg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B9E4C0CD.496F%john@queerasjohn.com>

Steve said:

> While we are on the topic of magic cities, it would seem that Diagon
> Alley is not a city but a street; the equvalent of High Street or Main
> Street. So would you speculate that Diagon Alley is the heart of a
> tiny magical village, or is there a whole magical city there; broom
> factories, book publishers, cauldron foundaries, import/export
> warehouses, produce distributors, etc...; all the businesses necessary
> to make any city run?

Well, we do know that Nocturne Alley exists. IMO there are probably more
than that -- we in the fandom have certainly created many, from Espeche
Alley to Vyrtick Alley to Horizont Alley to Ayne Alley.

As to the extent of the wizarding city, that all depends on how big you
think the wizarding population is, doesn't it?

Cari?os,

--John

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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 29 23:11:40 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:11:40 -0000
Subject: HP heaven (was: Richard Harris)
In-Reply-To: <apl868+hj59@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apn4jd+epsk@eGroups.com>

Amy envisioned:
> But of course, when one arrives at the pearly gates, one is handed a
> pile of all seven books (in heaven, they've been written already) and
> shown to a lovely pillowy cloud in a cozy corner, there to read to
> one's heart's content.


Actually, heaven would not *only* have the complete seven books
written with gold ink and bound in leather, but also JKR's entire WW
library of notes about Harry's universe.  I envision a room the size
of the beast's library in Beauty and the Beast filled with pages and
pages of all the tales and all the backgrounds and all the physics
just waiting to be discovered.

Sigh.  That is heaven.


Melody




From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 23:21:40 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:21:40 -0000
Subject: HP heaven 
In-Reply-To: <apn4jd+epsk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apn564+j8qn@eGroups.com>

Amy envisioned:
> > But of course, when one arrives at the pearly gates, one is handed a
> > pile of all seven books (in heaven, they've been written already) and
> > shown to a lovely pillowy cloud in a cozy corner, there to read to
> > one's heart's content.
> 
And Melody countered:
 
> Actually, heaven would not *only* have the complete seven books
> written with gold ink and bound in leather, but also JKR's entire WW
> library of notes about Harry's universe.  I envision a room the size
> of the beast's library in Beauty and the Beast filled with pages and
> pages of all the tales and all the backgrounds and all the physics
> just waiting to be discovered.
> 
> Sigh.  That is heaven.

Come on.  You guys aren't imaginative enough.  *Heaven* is where you
get through the pearly gates by tapping three times with the wand you
suddenly find in your pocket, and then step through *into* the books.
 Oh sure, you can meander off to the puffy little cloud on the right
over there and read to your heart's content (like the leather, but not
the gold ink - too hard on the eyes), but whenever you want, you can
go into the books and talk to the characters and find out *everything*
about them.

;)

JenP, who has a crying baby, but is finishing this anyway...





From kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue Oct 29 23:29:57 2002
From: kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:29:57 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven
References: <apn564+j8qn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBF19F5.000005.91973@monica>


As long as I get my own personal werewolf to turn the pages, I'd be happy to
read - for the first couple of days until I'd read the books. Although I don
t know why I'm bothering to imagine this since what I'm considering doing
with the werewolf when I've finished with the books is probably going to
send me straight to the other place :)

K
-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 29 October 2002 23:21:42
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven

Come on. You guys aren't imaginative enough. *Heaven* is where you
get through the pearly gates by tapping three times with the wand you
suddenly find in your pocket, and then step through *into* the books.
Oh sure, you can meander off to the puffy little cloud on the right
over there and read to your heart's content (like the leather, but not
the gold ink - too hard on the eyes), but whenever you want, you can
go into the books and talk to the characters and find out *everything*
about them.

;)

JenP, who has a crying baby, but is finishing this anyway...



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From pinguthegreek at ukf.net  Tue Oct 29 23:33:46 2002
From: pinguthegreek at ukf.net (Michelle Apostolides)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:33:46 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven
References: <apn564+j8qn@eGroups.com> <3DBF19F5.000005.91973@monica>
Message-ID: <003601c27fa3$a0bf8ce0$259401d4@ukf974444>

I think my personal HP heaven would be someone with a nice voice waiting for me on a comfy cloud to snuggle me up in his arms like a little girl and read the books to me right into my good ear. 

Michelle


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From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Tue Oct 29 23:57:13 2002
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:57:13 -0000
Subject: Magic Cities and Muggle Magic - Thoughts?
In-Reply-To: <B9E4C0CD.496F%john@queerasjohn.com>
Message-ID: <apn78p+h91o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, Queer as John wrote:
> Well, we do know that Nocturne Alley exists. IMO there are
> probably more than that -- we in the fandom have certainly
> created many, from Espeche Alley to Vyrtick Alley to Horizont
> Alley to Ayne Alley.

:: Polite cough ::

While I am not a member of L.O.O.N., I see that no members fo said 
organisation have descended upon the current thread yet - it is of 
course not Nocturne Alley, but Knockturn Alley.

Hey, I got to nail a mod!  :D

Best regards
Christian Stub?




From ucfrentluvr at aol.com  Wed Oct 30 00:01:01 2002
From: ucfrentluvr at aol.com (ucfrentluvr at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:01:01 -0500
Subject: Nocturne Alley/RPGs
Message-ID: <5C1AABEA.72C54BC3.3FE0C49C@aol.com>

Nicole said:
Does anyone know if there are other RPG communities similar to this?>>

Heidi mentioned this in her Overview of the Fandom, but I can't resist another shameless plug. Go check out the LJ RPG Reparo. :) I am a member of it, playing Percy and Angelina. It's a lot of fun and we *do* have openings. Go to www.spoinky.net/reparo to check out the timeline, character templates, and submission form. :)

--Dixie 



From john at queerasjohn.com  Wed Oct 30 00:15:26 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:15:26 +0000
Subject: ADMIN: Elves and Goats and Cars, Oh My!
Message-ID: <B9E4D51E.4996%john@queerasjohn.com>

*John descends from the Mod Tower in top hat and red tails a la Zigler from
Moulin Rouge, humming "Voulez-vous modder avec moi"*

Hello cherubs,

Just a quick but exciting note from all of us here in the Mod Tower. We're
happy to announce the recent enslavement...er...arrival of Porphyria (Ashey
Elf) and Marina (Filky Elf) to the ranks of the HPFGU List Elves. They're
working slavishly...er...happily away, greeting new members and approving
messages. Remember, please do *not* hand the Elves any form of clothing!

We in the Mod Tower have some changes of our own to announce too.
Aberforth's Goat has moved to pastures new (does that joke ever get old?
-Ed.) and we wish him all the best as he butts heads with other thinkers on
matters other than Harry Potter.

However, due to recent quota restrictions imposed by the Department of
International Magical Cooperation, we've had to dredge up another animagus
to join our ranks. Fortunately, Catherine had a spare set of wheel-clamps
and a towtruck handy, and we've impounded the Flying Ford Anglia once again.
Can I just point out how exceedingly difficult it is to maneuver a car up a
spiral staircase? Seriously, though, we're sad that Mike's had to step down
due to RL issues, but happy that Neil has agreed to rejoin us.

In other news, the www.hpfgu.org.uk site is down temporarily because of DNS
direction issues. We hope to have it back up and running very shortly. In
the meantime, you can access the Files Section via
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/Files.

If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact the
mods at mods at hpfgu.org.uk -- our email is still working, thank goodness!

*wanders off singing "Meet Me In The Mod Room"*

--QAJ, Moderator With Rock #47
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From john at queerasjohn.com  Wed Oct 30 00:30:38 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:30:38 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven
In-Reply-To: <apn564+j8qn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B9E4D8AE.49A3%john@queerasjohn.com>

Jennifer Piersol said:

> *Heaven* is where you... can go into the books and talk to the characters and
> find out *everything* about them.

*devious look* See, the problem with that is that sinful things would result
from that. Although...can one sin in heaven? If not, sign me up for Oliver
Wood.

--John

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From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:28:34 2002
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:28:34 -0000
Subject: Magic Cities and Muggle Magic - Thoughts?
In-Reply-To: <apn78p+h91o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apnck2+itha@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "pengolodh_sc" <pengolodh_sc at y...> 
wrote: (in response to John's message...)

> 
> Hey, I got to nail a mod!  :D
> 
> Best regards
> Christian Stub?

Oh, Christian... this could be taken in numerous ways... but 
guess which one came to *my* mind first...

;)

JenP, showing her true (naughty) colors...




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 30 01:34:36 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:34:36 -0000
Subject: HP heaven *with* reading partners ;)
In-Reply-To: <3DBF19F5.000005.91973@monica>
Message-ID: <apncvc+4jkf@eGroups.com>

> As long as I get my own personal werewolf to turn the pages, I'd be
>happy to read - for the first couple of days until I'd read the
books. >Although I don't know why I'm bothering to imagine this since
what I'm >considering doing with the werewolf when I've finished with
the books >is probably going to send me straight to the other place :)


K, you wicked girl you.  I can't believe I glazed right over that perk
in HP heaven.  I must say I am slipping.  Chalk me up for that big
black teddybear dog.  Though the more I read about certain werewolves,
the more cuddly he becomes.  Can they have alternative days in HP heaven?

Melody




From kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Oct 30 01:39:21 2002
From: kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:39:21 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven *with* reading partners ;)
References: <apncvc+4jkf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBF3849.000001.85373@monica>

lol. I'll share my Moony if you share your Padfoot :)

Although since it's heaven and all maybe there'll be multiple werewolves and
puppy dogs.

Hmm - Heaven is ... Never having to share your werewolf.

K

-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 30 October 2002 01:34:40
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP heaven *with* reading partners ;)

> As long as I get my own personal werewolf to turn the pages, I'd be
>happy to read - for the first couple of days until I'd read the
books. >Although I don't know why I'm bothering to imagine this since
what I'm >considering doing with the werewolf when I've finished with
the books >is probably going to send me straight to the other place :)


K, you wicked girl you. I can't believe I glazed right over that perk
in HP heaven. I must say I am slipping. Chalk me up for that big
black teddybear dog. Though the more I read about certain werewolves,
the more cuddly he becomes. Can they have alternative days in HP heaven?

Melody


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From editor at texas.net  Wed Oct 30 02:58:50 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:50 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Magic Cities and Muggle Magic - Thoughts?
References: <apn78p+h91o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <011a01c27fc0$46b7e360$d76463d1@texas.net>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, Queer as John wrote:
> Well, we do know that Nocturne Alley exists. IMO there are
> probably more than that -- we in the fandom have certainly
> created many, from Espeche Alley to Vyrtick Alley to Horizont
> Alley to Ayne Alley.

Christian politely coughed:

While I am not a member of L.O.O.N., I see that no members fo said
organisation have descended upon the current thread yet - it is of
course not Nocturne Alley, but Knockturn Alley.

Hey, I got to nail a mod!  :D
----------------------------------------

Hey, Anal! Should we make him a L.O.O.N. on the strength of him getting one
over on that John Mod person?

~Amanda





From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 04:37:06 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:37:06 -0000
Subject: Oprah show
Message-ID: <apnnli+c828@eGroups.com>

Just curious,

Anyone else see the Oprah show today?  
I couldn't get over the fact that Dan Radcliffe looked and spoke like 
someone so much older than 13.  Chris Columbus wasn't kidding when he 
said that Dan was going to be the new "heart throb"; I've never seen 
so many girls blushing since the Bay City Rollers . . .(uh, that was 
a band, believe it or not, back in the stone age).
Actually, all three kids, Rupert, Emma and Dan looked so "grown up"!
Rupert actually looks like he might be growing into his long-legged, 
red-headed character by the time PoA is done.
Great show! Except that Oprah kept pronouncing *Dobby* as *Dubby*.
Honestly!!  And she used to have a book club??!!!

Anna . . .




From editor at texas.net  Wed Oct 30 05:13:46 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:13:46 -0600
Subject: Richard Harris farewell, some quotes from HP adult cast
Message-ID: <017f01c27fd3$206aeaa0$d76463d1@texas.net>

A Richard Harris tidbit, courtesy of Georgiana off the Alan Rickman
Guestbook:

Copyright 2002 The Telegraph Group Limited
SUNDAY TELEGRAPH(LONDON)
October 27, 2002, Sunday
SECTION: Pg. 12
HEADLINE: Sad farewell to Harris, wizard to the stars Warm tributes for
Hollywood hellraiser and rugby fan who fought to the end
BYLINE: BY CHRIS HASTINGS

PETER O'TOOLE, the lifelong friend of Richard Harris, last night led
tributes to the 72-year-old actor who died on Friday after a long battle
with Hodgkin's disease.

"I am deeply sad. My love is with his family and a great spirit has gone,"
said Mr O'Toole, who broke off from filming in Tunisia to speak of his
sadness as news of Harris's death spread across the world.

Other friends and colleagues paid tribute to Harris, including Alan Rickman,
who co-starred alongside him in the first two Harry Potter films. "He was an
absolute professional who knew how to live life to the full," he said. "I
loved him: he was an extraordinary man. I count myself so lucky to have
worked with him. I used to sit next to him in the make-up chair on the set
of Harry Potter every morning and he would share his marvellous insights
into the works of Beckett and Shakespeare."

Rickman revealed: "He hadn't even read the Harry Potter books and was only
doing the film because his granddaughter said she'd not forgive him if he
didn't."

Despite his age, Harris still showed flashes of his hellraising past.
"Kenneth Branagh and I were in the bar with him one night and he was still
going at four in the morning with stories about his life," recalled Rickman.
"We just sat there with our mouths wide open.

"But the most amazing thing was that he was on set at 8am the next day to
read his lines to me even though he was off camera. That was the real mark
of the man."

Dame Maggie Smith, who starred as Prof Minerva McGonagall to Harris's Prof
Albus Dumbledore in the Harry Potter films, said: "My heart goes out to his
family. It is a great loss. I am going to miss him terribly.

"We walked around as a pair in Harry Potter. I always think Prof McGonagall
was madly in love with him anyway. It was a great pleasure to be with him
and it's going to be odd doing a Potter film without him. I just don't know
what we're going to do."

She added: "You had the feeling he was very frail on set, but he was always
there doing his bit. I think he loved the films precisely because he was
doing it for his grandchildren, who browbeat him into taking the part."
. . . . . . . . . .

Georgiana
Seattle - Sunday, October 27, 2002






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 13:38:28 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:38:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Two belated birthday wishes!
Message-ID: <20021030133828.95748.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com>

I have missed two more birthdays. The best I can to is
blame it on some serious RL distractions and offer my
sincere apologies. 
 
Belated birthday honourees are Dinah and Elizabeth C.
Birthday owls can be sent to Dinah at
bludger_witch at yahoo.com or to either birthday honouree
care of this list.
 
I hope both of you had wonderful days that brought you
much joy and fun.

Belated Happy Birthday, Dinah!
Belated Happy Birthday, Elizabeth!

Sheryll, the forgetful Birthday Elf


=====
"We need to be united and strong. We'll have losses and scares, sure. And you'll be there for each other, helping each other through the bad times."
 blpurdom - Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent, Chapter 26

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From pennylin at swbell.net  Wed Oct 30 13:42:38 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:42:38 -0000
Subject: One day left to early-bird register for Nimbus - 2003
Message-ID: <aponke+9382@eGroups.com>

Hi all --

Just a quick reminder that today is the last day for early-bird
registration for Nimbus - 2003.  You can register and get all the
details here:

www.hp2003.org

Early-bird registration does get you a very cool t-shirt that you can
have shipped to you in time for the CoS movie release (or collect at
the Symposium next July).  The early-bird registration price is good
through January 15, 2003 though.

Magically --

Penny
Programming Co-Chair, Nimbus - 2003





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 14:05:13 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:05:13 -0000
Subject: Oprah show
In-Reply-To: <apnnli+c828@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apooup+3q00@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "dradamsapple" <dradamsapple at y...> 
wrote:
> Great show! Except that Oprah kept pronouncing *Dobby* as *Dubby*.
> Honestly!!  And she used to have a book club??!!!
> 
> Anna . . .


Anna, 

I am sooo glad I am not the only person that noticed that!  Wasn't 
it irritating?  I kept thinking, "Why is she pronouncing it like 
that?"  Sheesh!  But the kids did look great, didn't they?  What fun 
to make a movie with other kids and enjoy it so much.  I know they 
worked hard, but I know the adults made sure they had fun, also.  I 
enjoyed the show so much!

Alora




From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 18:14:22 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (Fyre Wood)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:14:22 -0000
Subject: Oprah show
In-Reply-To: <apnnli+c828@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <app7hu+mof0@eGroups.com>

Anna typed:

>>>>>> Just curious,
> Anyone else see the Oprah show today?  

As a matter of fact, I was at my best friend's house trying to put 
the finishing touches on the Slytherin costume and I did! 


Anna:
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get over the fact that Dan Radcliffe looked and 
spoke like 
> someone so much older than 13.  Chris Columbus wasn't kidding when 
he 
> said that Dan was going to be the new "heart throb"; I've never 
seen 
> so many girls blushing since the Bay City Rollers 

Uhh--As hard as it is for me to admit it, I was actually acting like 
one of those girls! I never noticed before that Dan's such a cutie. 
My first reaction was, "If only he were six years older, then 
perhaps..." (Remember, I am 19).


Anna:
>>>>>>>>> Actually, all three kids, Rupert, Emma and Dan looked 
so "grown up"!
> Rupert actually looks like he might be growing into his long-
legged, 
> red-headed character by the time PoA is done.


I think that Emma is the perfect Hermione and looks so much older! I 
totally agree with that statement. I would like to see Ron without 
the abundance of facial expressions in the next movie. IMO, he over-
does the faces.

Wow.

--Fyre Wood, who wishes she were 13 again so she can drool over Danny 
Radcliffe without feeling.... sorta creepy.




From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 19:22:58 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:22:58 -0000
Subject: Recommend Best Fanfic
Message-ID: <appbii+t6m9@eGroups.com>

I need a fix of some great Harry Potter fic to get me through these 
dark days before JKR FINALLY releases book 5.  What do you all 
recommend as your favorite fanfic?  




From heidit at netbox.com  Wed Oct 30 19:31:53 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:31:53 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recommend Best Fanfic
In-Reply-To: <appbii+t6m9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <052601c2804b$19002e60$0201a8c0@Frodo>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tamara [mailto:buffyeton at yahoo.com] 
> 
> I need a fix of some great Harry Potter fic to get me through these 
> dark days before JKR FINALLY releases book 5.  What do you all 
> recommend as your favorite fanfic?  

You can see a tonne of recommendations by a variety of people in
FictionAlley's *The Nifflers Recommend...* section here:
http://www.fictionalley.org//fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?&f
orumid=106 - check out the summaries and reviews and it'll help you find
a few good fics to read  - including some by various HPfGU mods, elves,
geists and posters!





From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 23:11:18 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (Fyre Wood)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:11:18 -0000
Subject: Recommend Best Fanfic
In-Reply-To: <appbii+t6m9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <appoum+qlv4@eGroups.com>

Tamara kindly posted:

>>>>>> I need a fix of some great Harry Potter fic to get me through 
these 
> dark days before JKR FINALLY releases book 5.  What do you all 
> recommend as your favorite fanfic?<<<<<<<<

Heidy already posted a link to Fiction Alley, however on some older 
computers it tends to actually cause them to feeze up! This has not 
only happened to me, but also to two of my friends as well. (How 
odd?!)

If you're looking for easy, accessable fan fics, I recommend 
Fanfiction.net, though their level of writing is mainly 13 yr old 
kids. But they do allow you to choose the characters and genre of the 
story you want.

If you're looking for a specific story, I highly recommend 
Myr's "Harry Potter and the Parliament of Dreams" or the 
infamous "Harry Potter and the Insanity at Hogwarts"--by someone 
who's name I can't remember. I belive it's the one with Lorna Doors 
and her being Harry's Aunt with magical powers who comes to teach at 
Hogwarts. The "Parliament of Dreams" is actually a very good slash 
fic featuring Draco/Harry-- I'm a slasher.. sorry!

I tend to stay away from Cassandra Claire's "Draco Dormiens" Trilogy 
since the incident where she was caught plagerizing text. I feel that 
goes against my morals so I won't have any part of it. If you feel 
compelled to read it, then go on ahead.. but hey, I won't =p

Hope this helpped!

--Fyre Wood, who really wants book 5 instead of fanfics right now.




From saitaina at wizzards.net  Wed Oct 30 23:18:45 2002
From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:45 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Recommend Best Fanfic
References: <appoum+qlv4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00bd01c2806a$b29b3500$544e28d1@oemcomputer>

< I need a fix of some great Harry Potter fic to get me through 
these  dark days before JKR FINALLY releases book 5.  What do you all  recommend as your favorite fanfic?>

I would of course recomend my own fics, but only if you go in for slash.  My signature fics are:

The End of the Beginning-http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Saitaina/The_End_of_the_Beginning/

After the last war of Voldemort, Neville is the world's new hero, but is he ready to face those that betrayed him? 

and

This Used to Be My Playground-http://www.astronomytower.org/authors/saitaina/TUTBMP.html

Draco remembers Harry several years after his death

Saitaina
Who has more fics but can't list them all.
****
http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

Giles:  "Xander don't speak Latin in front of the books."

"When "Goblet" starts to bore you all to tears,
  and "Phoenix" isn't due for several years,"

Phoebe: We're rescuing you from the tall dark, and naked man
 
Piper: The freaking furniture just attacked!




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From abrabluewitch at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 30 23:22:42 2002
From: abrabluewitch at shaw.ca (Abra Pamuya)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:22:42 -0700
Subject: Hello...I'm  new
Message-ID: <3DC069C2.BE92A676@shaw.ca>

Thought I'd pop in and say hi. I'm a huge HP fan but not really until
the movie cam out on video. When the books came out I thought I was too
old, and I never saw it in theaters cuz due to lack of funds and my
fianc's love of Lord of the Rings I only saw one movie at that time.
I'm half way through the 3rd book and trying to soak up as much HP
information and stuff as possible.
I'm really happy I've found this group. I can't seem to find a good
active group that doesn't consist of 13 year olds.
I'm a SAHM to a 23 month old son named Leif Aric. I also have two cats,
Lister and Cessil and one beta fish named Triton. I'm 24, born on Oct
11, 1978. I live in Alberta Canada and spend too much time online. I
recently got our computer back since it died on Sept. 19th. I was to
incredibly bored. I collect Cabbage Patch Kids, I'm at about 88. I think
that's about it....ask if you want to learn more.

Abra Pamuya





From jenw118 at HotPOP.com  Wed Oct 30 18:45:32 2002
From: jenw118 at HotPOP.com (Jennifer R. Wilson)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:45:32 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Oprah show
In-Reply-To: <app7hu+mof0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004101c28044$8810a980$87c5fbd8@oemcomputer>

 Fyre said:  

 <<<< As a matter of fact, I was at my best friend's house trying to put

 <<<< the finishing touches on the Slytherin costume and I did! 
 
That's cool!  Thanks to TLC I got the news in time to give my mom a tape
to record it.  So, I've got the whole show on tape to drool over Dan
Radcliffe(more on that in a moment)  
 
I do have to say that I was not a fan of Oprah's mispronounciations.  It
also sounded like she said "Hermone" a few times instead of "Hermione".
And the "Dubby" thing got annoying fast.  I so wanted her to be hit in
the head by JKR with the books for that one.  If you are going to do a
show, know your stuff.   
 
 Fyre Admits: 

 >>>> Uhh--As hard as it is for me to admit it, I was actually acting
like 
 >>>> one of those girls! I never noticed before that Dan's such a
cutie. 
 >>>> My first reaction was, "If only he were six years older, then 
 >>>> perhaps..." (Remember, I am 19).


 My own statement on the above issue:
 
I have to agree, if he was only six-eight years older.... I'm 21, and I
think I was squealing as much as my ten and twelve year old sisters
whejn he came on the show.   

 
More of Fyre's Opinion:  
 >>>> I think that Emma is the perfect Hermione and looks so much older!
I 
 >>>> totally agree with that statement. I would like to see Ron without

 >>>> the abundance of facial expressions in the next movie. IMO, he
over-
 >>>> does the faces.

 >> Wow.

 >>>> --Fyre Wood, who wishes she were 13 again so she can drool over
Danny 
Radcliffe without feeling.... sorta creepy. 
 
I agree.  Emma seems very mature for her age, which is great.  Rupert
just looks dorky with the facial expressions.  MOST definitely over
done.  I'm not a big fan of Rupert though, more a fan of Dan and Emma.  
 
Jennifer-who wishes the very same =)  

  


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From john at queerasjohn.com  Thu Oct 31 02:43:30 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:43:30 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Recommend Best Fanfic
In-Reply-To: <appoum+qlv4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B9E64952.4B1B%john@queerasjohn.com>

Tamara said:

> I need a fix of some great Harry Potter fic to get me through these dark days
> before JKR FINALLY releases book 5.  What do you all recommend as your
> favorite fanfic?

Gosh, there are so many! I've recently finished Irina's _The Rebirth_ and
_Galatea_, which are the currently completed parts of the _Morrigna_
trilogy. You can find that at Schnoogle --
http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Irina/

I've also recently enjoyed Clio's _Eight Ways From Sunday_, again at
Schnoogle -- http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Irina

At the risk of sounding like Gilderoy Lockhart, you can find my
books--er--fics on FictionAlley, and there are links from the front page of
my LiveJournal, http://johnwalton.livejournal.com.

Hope this helps! 

Fyre Wood said:

> Heidy already posted a link to Fiction Alley, however on some older
> computers it tends to actually cause them to feeze up! This has not
> only happened to me, but also to two of my friends as well. (How
> odd?!)

How odd indeed. Have you ever submitted a support request to the FA Mods?

> If you're looking for easy, accessable fan fics, I recommend
> Fanfiction.net, though their level of writing is mainly 13 yr old
> kids. But they do allow you to choose the characters and genre of the
> story you want.

When Fyre says "their level of writing is mainly 13 yr old kids", that's a
real understatement. As the HPFGU Humongous Bigfile says,

"Fanfiction.net (www.fanfiction.net) is one of the largest fanfiction
archives available. It houses all genres of fan fiction, and has a very
large HP section, including many quality stories. However, be warned: it is
a large archive and there is no provision in place there to screen out the
many stories of dubious quality."

'Nuff said.

> The "Parliament of Dreams" is actually a very good slash
> fic featuring Draco/Harry-- I'm a slasher.. sorry!

No need to apologise for being a slasher, hon. ;)
 
> I tend to stay away from Cassandra Claire's "Draco Dormiens" Trilogy
> since the incident where she was caught plagerizing text. I feel that
> goes against my morals so I won't have any part of it. If you feel
> compelled to read it, then go on ahead.. but hey, I won't =p

Huh. Fyre, were you in fandom then? Because most people who joined the
fandom after the event don't know the full story, and your words lead me to
conclude that's the case with you. I'm quite disappointed, because whenever
I've read your posts -- and when we IMed -- you've sounded like a sensible
person, and not someone who would just chuck out that negative -- and
factually incorrect -- comment.

As someone who was involved at the time, I can say that the author concerned
had no problems with Cassie continuing to use the references to her book in
the Draco Trilogy. Cassie's disclaimers at the time, which were the crux of
the issue, were more comprehensive than those of the people who accused her
of plagiarism. From my perspective, the whole issue was nothing more than a
personal attack on one of the more popular authors, by people on FFN's staff
who were upset at the popularity of her fic.

Ach. This whole thing was what, almost two years ago? I think we need to
move on.

--John
______________________________________

Queer as John || john at queerasjohn.com

www.queerasjohn.com || AIM & YM @ QueerAsJohn

"There's nowt as queer as folk."  --English proverb
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From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 02:58:30 2002
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:58:30 -0000
Subject: Oprah show
In-Reply-To: <app7hu+mof0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apq68m+10hi7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Fyre Wood" <fyredriftwood at y...> wrote:
> 
> Anna:
> >>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get over the fact that Dan Radcliffe looked 
and 
> spoke like 
> > someone so much older than 13.  Chris Columbus wasn't kidding 
when 
> he 
> > said that Dan was going to be the new "heart throb"; I've never 
> seen 
> > so many girls blushing since the Bay City Rollers 
> 
> Uhh--As hard as it is for me to admit it, I was actually acting 
like 
> one of those girls! I never noticed before that Dan's such a cutie. 
> My first reaction was, "If only he were six years older, then 
> perhaps..." (Remember, I am 19).
> 
> 
>
> --Fyre Wood, who wishes she were 13 again so she can drool over 
Danny 
> Radcliffe without feeling.... sorta creepy.


Fyre Wood;

You think it's creepy?? I I don't even want to start to tell you what 
decade I was born in (hint: I know who the Bay City Rollers were and 
was one of their fans; wore plaid, sang "S A T U R D A Y  NITE!!", 
etc., etc.,).  I actually think it might be a *crime* if I also 
admitted that I think our Daniel is quite a handsome young man! 8-)

I will leave it at that and refuse to answer more questions on the 
grounds that it may incriminate me!!  (But yes, he is quite a 
cutie!), and I also agree with the facial expressions from Rupert: 
much too overdone.

Anna . . . (who wishes she was at least in her twenties again!)




From zeff8 at attbi.com  Thu Oct 31 03:38:05 2002
From: zeff8 at attbi.com (zeff8)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:38:05 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Oprah show
References: <apq68m+10hi7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c2808e$ec781800$d00df50c@attbi.com>

Well, what can I say? Im older than that, but I still think those kids are
cool..
And I am going to a local premier party, hosted for a local charity, (100
bucks a ticket), in full costume. And I am not talking some weird, lame
witches or wizard's costume either. I'm talking full Gryffindore uniform,
with tie, sweater, cloak with badge, and even scarf.  oh, did I forget to
mention my wand? Lol.




----- Original Message -----
From: "dradamsapple" <dradamsapple at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Fyre Wood" <fyredriftwood at y...> wrote:
> >
> > Anna:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get over the fact that Dan Radcliffe looked
> and
> > spoke like
> > > someone so much older than 13.  Chris Columbus wasn't kidding
> when
> > he
> > > said that Dan was going to be the new "heart throb"; I've never
> > seen
> > > so many girls blushing since the Bay City Rollers
> >
> > Uhh--As hard as it is for me to admit it, I was actually acting
> like
> > one of those girls! I never noticed before that Dan's such a cutie.
> > My first reaction was, "If only he were six years older, then
> > perhaps..." (Remember, I am 19).
> >
> >
> >
> > --Fyre Wood, who wishes she were 13 again so she can drool over
> Danny
> > Radcliffe without feeling.... sorta creepy.
>
>
> Fyre Wood;
>
> You think it's creepy?? I I don't even want to start to tell you what
> decade I was born in (hint: I know who the Bay City Rollers were and
> was one of their fans; wore plaid, sang "S A T U R D A Y  NITE!!",
> etc., etc.,).  I actually think it might be a *crime* if I also
> admitted that I think our Daniel is quite a handsome young man! 8-)
>
> I will leave it at that and refuse to answer more questions on the
> grounds that it may incriminate me!!  (But yes, he is quite a
> cutie!), and I also agree with the facial expressions from Rupert:
> much too overdone.
>
> Anna . . . (who wishes she was at least in her twenties again!)
>
>
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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 31 03:58:23 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:58:23 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Oprah show
References: <004101c28044$8810a980$87c5fbd8@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <024b01c28091$c2cfb280$7ea1cdd1@istu757>

Jennifer writes:

> I have to agree, if he was only six-eight years older.... I'm 21, and I
> think I was squealing as much as my ten and twelve year old sisters
> whejn he came on the show.
> I agree.  Emma seems very mature for her age, which is great.  Rupert
> just looks dorky with the facial expressions.  MOST definitely over
> done.  I'm not a big fan of Rupert though, more a fan of Dan and Emma.

Myself, maybe I'm just old (26, you know), but to me they're at the "oh,
they're so *cute!*" stage.  Which is pretty much what I said watching "After
the Show" online every time any of them (especially Dan and Rupert) opened
their mouths.  I got a big kick out of the lego thing!  Considering I have
all of those. :)

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
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From witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 04:04:56 2002
From: witchwanda2002 at yahoo.com (Wanda the *B*Witch)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:04:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: HAPPY HALLOWEEN
Message-ID: <20021031040456.92970.qmail@web13707.mail.yahoo.com>


Well, tomorrow will be a very busy day and night! So, i just wanted to wish everybody a safe and fun night! May you get lots of goodies! My Merry Band will be rearing to go at 5 pm! 

HAPPY HALLOWEEN AND MAY YOU GET LOTS OF TREATS INSTEAD OF TRICKS!

Wanda the *B*Witch and Her Very Merry Band of Muggles 100%


"When you come to the edge of all the light you know, and
are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things
will happen; There will be something solid to stand on, or you will be
taught how to fly."......Unknown.




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From fyredriftwood at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 16:45:42 2002
From: fyredriftwood at yahoo.com (Fyre Wood)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:45:42 -0000
Subject: To Heidi and the rest: A sincerest appology regarding the fanfic post
Message-ID: <aprmnm+85sg@eGroups.com>

Hello everyone.

I wanted to write a formal appology for part of a post I wrote 
yesterday regarding the Draco Dormiens fanfiction. I had only heard 
from the fanfiction.net people that she had "plagerized" and thus 
didn't want to read it.

I however didn't know that it was a backlash against her brilliant 
writing. I just got done reading the series and highly recommend it.

Thank you Heidi for showing me what a moron I am and hope that you'll 
continue reading my posts... I like posting on here and I am really, 
really sorry.

See, this is why rumors get us into trouble!

--Fyre Wood, a very very very sorry girl right now.




From bray.262 at osu.edu  Thu Oct 31 15:32:14 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:32:14 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: a very Harry birthday
Message-ID: <18EF8A1E31@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

My office and friends have treated me very well today, 
Harry-wise.  :-)

The office all signed a Harry Potter card and I got a Harry 
themed cake, a book of Harry postcards, and some movie 
passes..."for Harry".  :-)

A friend sent me flowers with a "All my love, Harry" signed 
on the card, though none of them will 'fess up to it.  I 
also got the Chamber poster with Daniel holding the sword 
delivered to the office (no one will claim that one, 
either). 

Tonight I've been invited to "Chez Spider, the finest 
restaurant in Diagon Alley" for a surf and turf dinner.
(The real bday celebration is this weekend after the OSU-
Wisconsin game. Reservations for 14 at Buca Di Beppo...my 
favorite restaurant!)

I love how my friends encourage me in all this madness.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 20:46:08 2002
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Happy Birthday times 2!
Message-ID: <20021031204608.32550.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com>

So, what do you think of today's decorations? I know,
I know. All these fancy pumpkins aren't exactly
birthday decor, but I didn't think our birthday
honourees would mind. Just let me hang the rest of the
streamers and we're all set for a party.

Today's birthday honourees are Kelley and Rachel.
Birthday wishes can be sent care of this list or
directly to Kelley at skthompson_1 at msn.com and to
Rachel at bray.262 at osu.edu

I hope both of you have wonderful days filled with
magic, fun and lots of goodies.

Happy Birthday, Kelley!
Happy Birthday, Rachel!

Sheryll, on time for once :-D

=====
"We need to be united and strong. We'll have losses and scares, sure. And you'll be there for each other, helping each other through the bad times."
 blpurdom - Harry Potter and the Psychic Serpent, Chapter 26

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From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 20:49:01 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:49:01 -0000
Subject: To Heidi and the rest: A sincerest appology regarding the fanfic post
In-Reply-To: <aprmnm+85sg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aps4vt+ct3a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Fyre Wood" <fyredriftwood at y...> wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I wanted to write a formal appology for part of a post I wrote 
> yesterday regarding the Draco Dormiens fanfiction. I had only heard 
> from the fanfiction.net people that she had "plagerized" and thus 
> didn't want to read it.
> 
> I however didn't know that it was a backlash against her brilliant 
> writing. I just got done reading the series and highly recommend it.
> 
> Thank you Heidi for showing me what a moron I am and hope that 
you'll 
> continue reading my posts... I like posting on here and I am 
really, 
> really sorry.
> 
> See, this is why rumors get us into trouble!
> 
> --Fyre Wood, a very very very sorry girl right now.

As the person who started the topic and is still looking for good 
fic, I completely forgive you.  I have been around the fanfic block 
more than a few times with Buffy and Roswell fic, and I initially 
agreed with your sentiments.  I have seen more than one fanfic author 
plagarize and it gives the genre a bad name.  

Now for the Draco Dormiens fanfiction, where can I find this?  :)

Tamara




From heidit at netbox.com  Thu Oct 31 20:55:01 2002
From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:55:01 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter]  A sincerest appology regarding the fanfic post
In-Reply-To: <aps4vt+ct3a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <06f101c2811f$e35edf10$0201a8c0@Frodo>



Fyre Woods wrote: 
> > Thank you Heidi for showing me what a moron I am 
You're not a moron, you just got incomplete information, and I think we
should just leave it at that, with some schnoogles!

Tamara asked:
 
> Now for the Draco Dormiens fanfiction, where can I find this?  :)

FictionAlley! It's at
http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Cassandra_Claire/ - start with
Draco Dormiens, then Sinister. Veritas is still a WIP and likely will be
for another 4-5 months or so, but they others are quire readable as
standalones, if you go in the correct order. Otherwise, some plot points
won't make much sense. 

Heidi
Nimbus - 2003 Team
http://www.hp2003.org





From kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Oct 31 21:03:15 2002
From: kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:03:15 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: To Heidi and the rest: A sincerest appology regarding the fanfic post
References: <aps4vt+ct3a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DC19A93.000003.01945@monica>


That's a good question. I've heard about it but never read it. And while I'm
here can I heartily recommend The Mirror of Maybe by Midnight Blue. It's on
ff.n and she has a yahoo group too. It is one of the most original and well
written pieces of fiction I've read. It's Harry/Severus (or will be
eventuially) but even those people who don't like the idea of Harry/Sev
normally tend to like this. (as long as they don't object to slah at any
rate)

K
-------Original Message-------

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date: 31 October 2002 20:49:06
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: To Heidi and the rest: A sincerest appology
regarding the fanfic post

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Fyre Wood" <fyredriftwood at y...> wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I wanted to write a formal appology for part of a post I wrote 
> yesterday regarding the Draco Dormiens fanfiction. I had only heard 
> from the fanfiction.net people that she had "plagerized" and thus 
> didn't want to read it.
> 
> I however didn't know that it was a backlash against her brilliant 
> writing. I just got done reading the series and highly recommend it.
> 
> Thank you Heidi for showing me what a moron I am and hope that 
you'll 
> continue reading my posts... I like posting on here and I am 
really, 
> really sorry.
> 
> See, this is why rumors get us into trouble!
> 
> --Fyre Wood, a very very very sorry girl right now.

As the person who started the topic and is still looking for good 
fic, I completely forgive you. I have been around the fanfic block 
more than a few times with Buffy and Roswell fic, and I initially 
agreed with your sentiments. I have seen more than one fanfic author 
plagarize and it gives the genre a bad name. 

Now for the Draco Dormiens fanfiction, where can I find this? :)

Tamara


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From john at queerasjohn.com  Thu Oct 31 21:18:58 2002
From: john at queerasjohn.com (Queer as John)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:18:58 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: To Heidi and the rest: A sincerest
	appology regarding the fanfic post
In-Reply-To: <3DC19A93.000003.01945@monica>
Message-ID: <B9E74EC2.4BD4%john@queerasjohn.com>

Kathryn Cawte said:

> Now for the Draco Dormiens fanfiction, where can I find this? :)

You can find it at http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Cassandra_Claire --
and you can discuss it at the Paradigm of Uncertainty YahooGroup which is
shared with Lori Summers and her fab PoU series. PoU can be found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParadigmofUncertainty.

Hope this helps,

--John

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From speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 31 22:02:47 2002
From: speedygonzo242 at hotmail.com (frankielee242)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:02:47 -0000
Subject: Fan Fiction Recomendation 
Message-ID: <aps9a7+fe7t@eGroups.com>

Hello all,

This is a HUGE plug for Marina's fan fictions. They are so close to
canon and so darn in-character, it's scary. Extremely well written, too!

Here's her website-- 

http://www.marinafrants.com
 
(Hope I'm not embarassing you, Marina. Your HP fics are GREAT!)



BTW, happy birthday to the several people who've celebrated birthdays
in October!! =)


Frankie, who is hopelessly behind several deadlines at work and
sinking into ultra-lurker mode.