Is AYMT Life Affirming? (was What Cuaron will bring to PoA)

[Tim Regan]

Hi All,
 
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Wow Judy (aka Nia) – great reply. I'm still not completely convinced 
though. 

I really like your parallel between AYMT and the genesis story, 
especially if you ask "Who's the snake?". It would have to be Luisa 
(not Ana, I got them mixed up), but she's on the side of good, which 
brings the film close to Pullman's "Dark Materials" trilogy. Mary 
Mallone = Luisa, and Lyra and Will are Tenoch and Julio. 

But you can also see the boys' sexual conquests (that's the way they 
think of them) as attempts to get sexually closer and closer to each 
other. Starting normally, they then seek to bed each other's 
girlfriends, and then masturbate together, and finally one sleeps 
with the other's mother. After all, that is the title. But we know 
that's not the closest you can get to someone sexually – and they 
find out the truth near the end of the film through Luisa as the 
catalyst when they sleep together. But this realization doesn't lead 
them to an increased awareness of themselves – to adulthood. Or does 
it? Maybe I'm obsessing about the wrong part of the film. I know 
some people experience homosexual incidents as part of their growth 
toward adult heterosexuality (Michael Portillo, a UK politician made 
this claim a few years back 
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/442422.stm>) but it 
doesn't ring true. 

> The truth of the boys' existence—that they 
> loved each other—was impossible for them to process and deal with 
in 
> the superficial mental environment they'd established for 
> themselves.  
[snip]
> 	I found the picture life-affirming because even though 
> Tenoch and Julio lost their friendship at the end, they found a 
new 
> maturity and deeper perceptions.

No – I do not believe one can attain maturity through a rejection of 
one's sexuality.

> There was a great deal of Adam and Eve symbolism you could read 
> into this film also.  It's impossible not to make some biblical 
> connections with the name of their destination being "Heaven's 
> Mouth.".

And some sexual connections too. But religious or sexual – Cuaron's 
treatment of the boys' journey does bode incredibly well for PoA. Be 
ready for more sexual overtones though. In 
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/message/4490> I pointed 
out that all his films have romance or sex in. Even in "A Little 
Princess" he has an added romance between Amelia Minchin and the 
milkman which is not in the book.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.

PS Appologies if two copies of this post show up. I'm having Yahoo 
problems.

PPS I read on IMDB that the DVD voice over is only available in 
Spanish - has anybody who understands Spanish scecked it out?