Guns & the Bill of Rights
bluesqueak
pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk
Tue Aug 5 20:52:44 UTC 2003
> Our safeguards come in the form of a free and very independent
> press who have regular opportunities to quiz our leader (how many
> press conferences has Shrub given in his presidency? And I mean
> actual press conferences not just statements to the press - I'll
give you a clue, it's less than 10), a
> judiciary that isn't elected (thank goodness, justice and
> popularity are after all not always compatible) and is having its
> last tie to the executive severed and a strong parliament. We also
have history on our side - the last
> time a ruler tried to indefinitely suspend Parliament and set up a
> dictatorship we executed him.
>
> K
And we have our greatest safeguard - the sheer bloody-mindedness of
our people.
Don't confuse a gun with freedom. We have a long, long tradition of
telling the government to get stuffed [as Kathryn points out, dating
back to 1649 when we explained to King Charles I that he ruled by
our consent, not by divine right. And just to prove that you no
longer have our consent, we will now proceed to chop your royal head
off. ;-)]
And that tradition has continued on its merry way down to the
1990's, when demonstations and riots (without a gun in sight) showed
the then government that they *cannot* enforce an unpopular law.
(The Poll Tax Riots). Or when the people of Tatton in Cheshire
showed that no party machine could force them to re-elect a sitting
MP they believed corrupt. (They elected a slightly bewildered
reporter called Martin Bell, who was standing on an anti-corruption
platform - the first Independent MP in Parliament for over 50 years)
Hitler could have been elected here, I think. But he would have
elected himself into a civil war, because 'the government is always
right' is just not in our tradition. 'Resist the government when
it's wrong' *is* in our tradition.
You said, Steve:
"But if the tide turns against you, what measure of assurance do you
have (Bill of Rights), what resources are at your disposal to bring
a straying government under control? "
Us. Just us.
That's all it takes. Because a Bill of Rights is not worth the paper
it is written on if the people who are supposed to govern by it
don't believe in it. 'Bills of Rights' also depend on 'us'. The
people. Deciding that they are not going to let 'the government' get
away with it. Deciding that in the last resort they will *make* the
government abide by its laws.
Who holds the guns and the tanks is important. But you are
forgetting that guns can be obtained, and petrol bombs made, and
things can go bang in the night if the people are determined.
As Kathryn said, we have history on our side. History has taught us
that we are our own constitution. The Bill of Rights is us.
Pip!Squeak
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