Newbie List

[derannimer]

GAAAAH!

I feel like an idiot for posting previously without having read the entire thread -- 
given the content of *this* post, there's some kind of cosmic irony in play here, I 
suspect -- *but.*

Wendy, I imagine you're going to get hammered for this, but *I* think it's sheer 
genius.

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 I almost wonder if the idea of another group isn't a good
 idea. For there to be an "intro" group - "HP for newbies" or something, and
 once people have gotten all the thestral and gleam questions out of their
 systems, they can "graduate" to a group where the level of discussion can
 be higher, and more in-depth. Not sure how to go about this, though, and
 I'm sure there are some who'll find this an elitist attitude. I'm not an
 elitist. I'm happy for all to participate - as long as we're all following
 the same rules and treating one another with respect, that is. That's not
 elitism. That's just me wanting to be treated the way I treat others. 

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It is *not* elitism -- it's not like they won't be allowed to *read* the main list -- and I 
certainly wouldn't have been mad if *I'd* been asked to do that. The fact of the matter 
is, as you said, Wendy, that some people apparently think that this list is some sort of 
comment board where they can just post any darn thing they want. 

<Derannimer sniffs, then realizes that she sounds like a dowager duchess>

Obviously, most of the newbies *aren't* like that -- but the great thing about a 
"newbie" group would be that the newbies who were conscientious could get 
"graduated" quickly enough; and the. . . er, *others* probably wouldn't even care to 
graduate in the first place.

Now, back to Cindy's idea of a second "circuit-breakered" canon list. . . well, Captain, 
if you're going. . . 

I guess you won't be winning all of your arguments after all. Sorry about that. ; )




IncrediblyGrumpy!Derannimer, who is glad that other people seem to be thinking the 
same sorts of things

P.S. Oh! I see that Grey Wolf is seconding the idea of a newbie list!

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 My own take on this problem would be to create a newbie list. It is 
 essentially moderated status taken one step forward. Let me explain: 
 moderated status meant checking the quality of the posts, but right now 
 there are so many pendings list elves are swamped, so bad posts get 
 through. Moderated status is, clearly, not working anymore. My take on 
 this is to create two lists. One, open to anyone, with suggestions of 
 rules and a clear goal: those that follow them are invited to join the 
 other, closed but with open archives (so everyone can see what to aim 
 at, and what they are missing). In that list, anyone breaking the rules 
 too much would get demoted back to the other, which would keep us on 
 our toes. If there is anyone that enjoys the kind of chaos of the main 
 list today, he can simply stay there.
 
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<waves at Grey Wolf, now not quite so IncrediblyGrumpy>