[HPFGU-OTChatter] ..and this is me combining posts.

Laura Ingalls Huntley lhuntley at fandm.edu
Fri Dec 12 22:11:14 UTC 2003


DISCLAIMER:  Looking back over this message, I can see that it is 
ill-constructed, vague, ramble-y, rant-y, and more than a little 
unintelligible in places.  I shamelessly blame this on lack of sleep, a 
number of upcoming final exams, and my penchant for parenthetical 
asides and ellipses (which are absolutely uncontrollable on less than 
four hours of sleep ^_~).  Read at your own risk.

Okay.  In order of . . . well, no order really.  Perhaps a rough 
estimate of chronological order.  Maybe.  ^_~ Birthdays, Warriors, and 
Agoraphobia.

Anna:
> Happy Birthday!!
> <snip>
> Anyway, don't get discouraged.  We've all been there and survived!
> And a treehouse would be great!! But, Neverland?  Uh, I think we can
> find a better forest to build that treehouse!
> Anyway, I'm finally getting sleepy... must take advantage...
> Hope all your birthday wishes come true!

Thanks!  But . . . what's wrong with Neverland?  It's got trees, 
mermaids, pirates, and presumably some sort of anti-aging atmosphere 
that sounds just lovely.

Or was that the fairy dust?  I forget.

Neith:
> Seriously now, don't be so. Nineteen is a wonderful age, more even so
> if you're still studying and without responsibilities. In any case, I
> understand you, because 10 years ago I didn't want to get old, even
> though I wasn't afraid of future;it was time after that when I
> decided just let time slip and not to worry until I am at least 40.

Happy Birthday to you too, Neith!  Although, I have to ask:  What 
*exactly* do you mean be "without responsibilities"?  I happen to take 
my studying v. seriously, you know. ^_~ It might *seem* like all frats 
and keg parties, but mostly it's just *paying* to work your ass off, 
instead of *getting* paid to do it.

(NOTE:  Of course, I have *never* had a drop of alcohol in my life, as 
I am under 21 and it would be WRONG. ^_~)

Hmm . . . I'm not really afraid of the future either.  Well, maybe a 
bit.  I *don't* want to enter the work force, really.  Most jobs seem . 
. . well, horribly boring.  I really can't imagine not studying and 
learning everyday.  *thinks* Maybe I can be a research scientist.

Is there any way you can just stay in a school forever?  Really, it's 
all I'm good at.

Shaun:
> I'm not sure that this will cheer you up. Because I'm not 100% sure 
> why you're
> depressed about being 19.
> But I remember being 19 (-8 And I remember being really upset about 
> the fact that
> I felt like I was having to grow up now. Having to turn into an adult. 
> And I didn't
> feel like I was ready.

Yeah, that's part of it.  Only, it's less of a "I'm not ready!" feeling 
and more of a "I won't, and they can't make me! . . . I mean, they 
can't, can they?" feeling.  I remember when I was about seven or eight 
or so I made a list of very un-adultish things that I did/thought/was 
and promised myself that I'd never stop doing/thinking/being any of 
them.

Well, you can imagine how successful I've been at *that*, which sort of 
saddens me.  I mean, most of them weren't very noble traits (among them 
were "I will never feel bad for being an embarrassment to my mother" 
and "I will always hit anyone who needs hitting, especially my little 
brother," only there were words misspelled. ^_^), but I sort of *miss* 
being weird and immature and crazy and proud of it.

Well, I guess I am still sort of weird, immature, and crazy . . . and, 
okay, I'm still pretty proud of it, too.  But . . . it's just 
different, you know?

And what *is* "maturity," anyway?  I ask you.  Because it seems to me 
that the only people so terribly concerned with it are either a) 
pre-teenagers or b) really, really boring and judgmental.

AND . . . *suddenly notices that a very large soapbox has materialized 
under her feet.*  Erm . . . *steps off it sheepishly*.

Shaun:
> If it's any comfort - it'll probably be at least ten years before 
> adults think you're an
> adult. I'm nearly 29 - and frankly, I feel younger now, than I did 
> when I was 19. I've
> come to realise that I have a lot more time left being young (or 
> relatively young)
> than I thought (-8

I seem to be stuck between being annoyed when adults expect me to grow 
up in a hurry and exasperated when, for instance, my college professors 
conduct classes like they're kindergarten teachers.  One of them 
actually asked my multivariable class today what you get when you 
divide a negative number by its positive counterpart.  *sigh* Granted, 
the case could be made that he was just trying to see if we were awake 
(which would be a v. valid concern on his part).

My real problem is that it's just going so *fast*.  It seems like just 
yesterday I was all upset because I was turning eighteen, and just 
before that I was in a state of shock and dismay because I'd hit 
twelve.  And there's just no way to *stop* it.  My life is hurtling by 
me at an alarming rate, and there's nothing at all I can do about it.  
Moreover, birthdays *force* me to think about that fact, which is why I 
hate them with a mad passion.

And now I'm going to stop talking about this before anyone gets an even 
*lower* opinion of me and my ability to form coherent sentences.  ^_^  
So . . . Thanks to Amy Z, Sheryll, and anyone else I might have missed 
for the birthday wishes!

On to the Flame Warriors:

I am sad to confess that I am definitely the Tireless Rebutter, as 
anyone who has ever engaged in an argument with me can attest to 
(Shaun, pippin, everyone else...sorry 'bout that).  However, I protest 
the assertion that I am "universally loathed."  After all, not *that* 
many people know me. ^_~

Iggy:
> Ps: Agoraphobic... Isn't that a fear of
> really soft and fluffy
> sweaters??>

Saitaina:
> Er, no.  It's a fear of people and crowds.
> Added to a fear of judgment and I can't even
> make a call to a store or doctor's office
> without rehearsing it five million times in
> my head (and forget talking to sales
> clerks).

I remember one of my mom's best friends had agoraphobia (back when I 
was teeny weeny and my mum still had her little circle of girlfriends). 
  I never understood it at all back then, probably because my mother 
explained it as "Ellen is afraid to leave the house," and left it at 
that.  (Understandably, as by the time I had processed this strange bit 
of information and was ready to make further inquiries on the subject, 
Ellen was sitting in the passenger seat of our car on the way to her 
first psychiatric appointment in years.  Oh, kids are the most tactless 
little creatures ever.)  Anyway, I think in this case I worked out for 
myself that Ellen must be scared of germs or something in the air or 
maybe wild animals, because *why* would anyone be afraid to go outside 
their house?

Now, it's definitely not such a mystery to me.  I certainly don't have 
it, but every now and then I definitely get panic attacks about going 
to see people (interestingly, I don't have any problem at all with 
strangers/strange places.  It's the casual acquaintances that really 
get me). But, OH . . . Phones.  The Scourge of the Earth.  The Bane of 
My Existence.  Forget rehearsing lines.  I just can't *do* it, most of 
the time.  The only people I feel comfortable on the phone with are my 
mom and my boyfriend, full stop.  Can't even talk to my eight year old 
sister (who also had a birthday today) without getting nervous ("Oh, 
dear God, what do I *say*?!").  You know that Thing people have, where 
they feel compelled to answer a ringing phone?  Never experienced it in 
my life.

Although, there *are* times when I can call people and be cool as a 
cucumber.  I think these times are the products of when my rare 
Productive Mood and my even rarer Quick-and-Efficient Mood coincide.  
The Productive Mood gives me this heady sense of "Let's get things 
DONE!" (getting things DONE often requires telephones), and the 
Quick-and-Efficient Mood makes me pick up the receiver and dial the 
number before I can think about it too much and chicken out.

So, yeah.  Phones.  Bad.

Laura (who has just realized that her low opinion of paying work 
probably stems from the fact that they only jobs she has ever had were 
filing for her parents' contracting business and working on a boxing 
line at a blueberry factory. *shudder*)





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