FF: Unrestricted Travel Between UK and Canada??
pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk
pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk
Wed Dec 17 16:27:36 UTC 2003
Steve wrote:
> I have a fan fic that is still very much in the planning stage in
> which Harry and Ron are in the USA illegally. They are at the
> airport trying to get a airplane ticket back to England, but don't
> have their passports with them.
Steve, I think you are going to have to have them travel to the USA
by magical means, or alternatively have them lose their passports en-
route. I cannot imagine *anyone* traveling (legally) by plane from
UK to Canada without a passport.
There is one possibility; that is that the UK authorities somehow
think Harry and Ron are *Canadian*. They might well do an emergency
repatriation for two minors stuck in a foreign country.
[ie, the Canadian Consulate would provide some emergency paperwork
to get them on the flight. *However*, this would only work if Harry
and Ron are underage. Or if they're being deported from the UK.]
>
> So, I need a plausable explaination for how they ended up in the
> USA. It would serve me extremely well if travel between Canada and
> England was unresticted. That way they could arrive in Canada, and
> on a whim cross the border into the USA to have a look around.
>
> Part of the problem is getting them through Canadian Customs
> without passports. The lords of poor writers would smile on me, if
> they could do that with just their UK national ID's.
Err.. No. As others have pointed out, the problem is getting them on
the *flight* to Canada without a passport. You will not get onto a
(foreign bound) plane in the UK without showing your passport. Last
time I traveled abroad I not only had my passport checked, I had a
retinal/facial features scan as well.
Airports in the UK are very security conscious. Very, very security
conscious.
The other problem is that the passport *is* the unofficial UK
national ID.
There are approximately 58 million people in the UK. 44 million of
them hold passports. More people hold a passport than hold a driving
licence (41 million people hold a driving licence).
I use my passport all the time. As ID.
>
> Even if that isn't exactly possible, I may have a alternate cover
> story, but even that alternate story need very loose restriction on
> travel between the two countries (they claim they enter Canada on a
> private plane landing at a small airport in the alternate
scenerio).
Still need a passport. A private plane would have to file a flight
plan and would be expected to go through Customs and immigration
like everyone else.
If Harry and Ron claim they entered Canada on a private airplane, at
a small airport, where no one asked for their passports, they might
as well just add 'and our pilot kept offering us Coke, but we told
him we weren't thirsty.' ;-)
>
> Even under the best of circumstances, I'm going to have to do a
> lot of 'fast talking' to pull this off.
Accidentally hitching a lift with international drug smugglers
sounds your best bet...
Pip!Squeak
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