Fanfics with slash & sex...I don't get it

[Haggridd <jkusalavagemd@yahoo.com>]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "heiditandy" <heidit at n...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haggridd <jkusalavagemd at y...> 
> > A slash mb or slash section in FA or some other site would allow 
> > readers to know precisely what they are getting into-- so to 
speak-- 
> > and any complaints thereafter would have little validity. 
> 
> 
> People do complain, though. People complain in reviews - more on ffn
> than on FA, from what I've seen in the past 18 months. For example, 
if
> you see a fic which is labled <<Harry/Draco Slash!>> then it seems
> disingenuous to complain in the review that the fic features two 
boys
> kissing - or thinking about kissing - each other. 
>

It surely does!
 
> But on the same note, why should a fic like Lori's Paradigm of
> Uncertainty, which contains a few gay characters, be obligated to
> plaster warnings all over the story saying things like <<Gay 
Characters
> Who Are Never Shown Actually Having Intimate Relations Contained
> Herein>> without also saying that the fic contains <<Heterosexual
> Characters Who Are In Their Late 20's-Early 30's Who Are Actually 
Shown
> Having Intimate Relations Contained Herein>>? Why should she be 
held to
> a different standard than, say, Pay Conroy, whose Prince of Tides
> features a prominent character who self-identifies as a lesbian?
>

As for me, Heidi, the presence of gay OC's doesn't bother me at all, 
even if they engage in explicit sexual behavior.  It is the use of 
JKR's characters in what I contend is in a way entirely contrary to 
the way she envisioned and wrote them, characters that I love and 
think about as often as anyone on the mb, that upsets me so.  It is 
not the homosexuality that bothers me, but that HARRY is doing it, 
that HERMIONE is doing it, that HAGRID (eeek!) is doing it. 

> Look, if we required warnings for books, so the reader didn't have 
to
> risk seeing anything upsetting, would we have this for Goblet of 
Fire?
> 
> 
> 
> Deaths of one character in the same chapter in which he first 
appears,
> death of an underage character at unexpected moment, described 
murder of
> adult character by his son, many het pairings at dance and other 
school
> activities, at least three het adult pairings, one pairing 
involving a
> gender-unspecific character dancing with a character who has only 
one
> leg and an eye that can see through clothing (both injuries 
occurred in
> backstory), one naked underage character in bathtub being watched by
> underage ghost, one adult character steps naked from a large 
cauldron
> and is robed by another male character, one character engages in
> self-mutilation in manner which might be similar to cutting, 
multiple
> transformations of characters into animals, including one noncon
> transformation which includes underage character being bounced from
> floor to ceiling, one scene takes place in graveyard, underage 
character
> is tied to tombstone and subjected to bloodletting, underage 
character
> and other character battle with wands, a spider is killed, four
> characters are made unconscious and tied to a rock under a lake, one
> character makes possibly sexually harrassing joke about "Uranus", 
one
> het hug and various het kisses, verbal and physical assaults via 
mail on
> female character, imprisonment of antagonist character in beetle 
form,
> hero and friends cause three underage characters to become 
unconscious,
> much consumption of sweets and nonalcoholic drinks, some alcoholic
> beverages mentioned and consumed (off page) by horses, consumption 
of
> slightly alcoholic beverages by nonhuman character to the point of
> drunkenness, noncon levitation of minor characters (including 
forcible
> showing of one such character's undergarments), assault via food on
> underage character, enslavement of dozens, if not hundreds, of minor
> characters...
> 
I choose to regars last passage of yours as exaggeration for effect, 
and not to be taken at face value.
> 
> Heidi, who notes that FA will never have a specific section for 
slash,
> because it would likely violate a few antidiscrimination statutes,
> whereas requiring appropriate ratings and warnings, where 
necessary, for
> all fics would not

What statutes?  There are no such.  I do agree with you, however, 
that even this wouldn't solve the problem of those idiots who will 
enter this "slash tower" read a fic and flame it for being slash.

Haggridd

Haggridd