[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Couplethinking
the.gremlin at verizon.net
the.gremlin at verizon.net
Sun Jan 12 04:28:37 UTC 2003
Two posts in an hour! This may get long, BTW.
Elkins wrote:
"Friendship is exceptionally important to me. Whenever I hear someone use that phrase "just friends," it makes me grind my molars. And I have very little patience with people who prioritize this week's sack-hop over their oldest and closest friends. Makes me downright cranky, that does."
My two best friends of 3 1/2 years (both female) are more important to me than my boyfriend of 3 years. I have stood my boyfriend up a few times to be with my friends. I should also mention that I am only 18 and I *will not* be married until I'm 25. That boyfriend proposes anytime before, I'm not accepting, and he knows this, too.
Dicey wrote:
"There's a dearth of intimate, non-sexual relationships between people in fiction. As one who has had some wonderful, close, platonic relationships with guys, I'd really like to see society pull its head out and give these kinds of relationships more emphasis than the romantic ones."
I also have one guy friend, and I know several other guys. My guy friend is the ex-boyfriend of another friend of mine, and for awhile after she dumped him, he kept going on and on about how much he missed her. However, our friendship has not developed the closeness it could have because of my mother. I go someplace with him, alone, and she automatically assumes we are dating. I have no intention of ever dating this guy, yet I am uncomfortable alone with him, because I am afraid he might take any friendly action on my part as an attempt to "hit on him."
Elkins wrote:
"Television, of course, is just the *worst* that way. It does often seem that any TV series that runs for long enough will eventually turn *all* of the relationships between members of the opposite sex non-platonic. Most annoying, that."
Someone (I forget who) mentioned the Mulder and Scully factor. I knew that a sexual relationship between them would ruin the show, and I stopped watching when it was clear that that was where the series was heading. In fact, my favorite episodes were when the characters appeared to have lives outside of work! For instance, I loved the one where Mulder's British ex-girlfriend showed up.
Elkins again:
"You know, I've been living in very close personal quarters with one of my housemates for 15 years now. We even shared a studio apartment for a time: a single room. One sofa bed."
I have slept in a double bed with my two best girlfriends, and one of them left the bed only because she got sick in the middle of the night and didn't want to get us sick. I have also shared a double bed with the same girl (when she was well, of course), and actually, with 3 other girls, 2 at one end and 2 at the other. I went to an all-girls school where it was common to see two girls walking around holding hands. I walk around the same with my girlfriends. My friends have kissed each other on the check. I think it's wonderful that we have this close of a friendship, as I have had terrible friendships in the past.
My friends and I have even talked of sharing a studio and just throwing a futon in the middle of the floor.
Elkins again:
I mean, for heaven's sake! Did Paul get *laid* on the Road To Damascus?"
I read this line in someone else's post, without context, and I had no idea what you were talking about (I read all my e-mails backward). I got it when I read your full post, though. As a good Catholic girl (or supposed to be), I found this extremely funny, and I'd like to needlepoint this on a pillow (like the person who said they'd frame it).
Elkins:
"It's not really the idea of Snape having loved Lily that bothers me at all, you know."
I hate LOLLIPOPS. Despise it. Sure, I'm always against Lily and James being the perfect saints everyone seems to think they were, but I don't think they, specifically Lily, were *that* imperfect. It just doesn't work, from where I'm looking at it.
Elkins again (well, I *am* responding to *her* post):
"It's my feeling that such an emotional attachment, should it ever be set forth in canon, would almost certainly also be set forth as a driving cause of his turning away from the Death Eaters. And I really do dislike that idea quite a bit."
I actually have my own "Snape's neice" theory that has no canon basis whatsoever, but I like it just the same. Which goes back to the couplethinking. I guess I don't like the idea that he found a significant other so important that he would want to change the way he lived his life (and basically his career) for her. However, I am fine with the fact that he would be willing to change his life for a parent/child relationship (because in my theory, Snape's neice is too old to be his child, but young enough to be a sister, perhaps).
Elkins yet again:
"Sadly, I rather suspect that it is going to be canon eventually."
There's still hope! Maybe he just didn't know Lily at *all*, so doesn't feel he's justified to criticize her in front of her son. Maybe he's just completely indifferent to her!
And we have Elkins again:
"And I think that Snape's task really *is* likely to turn out to be the most boring and obvious one of going back to Voldemort, you know -- in spite of the fact that, as all obsessed fans know, this would really be a very foolish and nonsensical and unsatisfying thing for it to turn out to be. ;-)"
For a while, I was sure that he was going to do something else, but going back to Voldemort just seems like the most logical thing to do. I mean, even Sirius gave Snape credit for being cunning enough to stay out of trouble. But I don't think it'll be boring or unsatisfying, because we may find out more about our beloved Snape. :D
-Acire, the most unromantic girl she knows, and who would like to hit her friends over the head with an anvil everytime they bemoan the fact that they don't have boyfriends, but she loves them too much to do that.
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