Where in the World is HOGWARTS?
Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com>
bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 14 02:50:49 UTC 2003
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Queer as John <john at q...> wrote:
> Steve <bboy_mn at y...> said:
>
> > But I think their map is pointing to lower northern Scotland in
> > general. After all, a little north of Glasgow is the same latitude
> > as a little north of Edinburgh.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Actually, there is direct canon evidence that Hogwarts is only just
> north of the Lothian (Edinburgh) region. In CoS, the Daily Prophet
> reports that the Anglia was spotted over Peebles. Peebles is a small
> town halfway between Carlisle and Edinburgh in the Scottish Borders.
>
> Given the sunset times for September, and assuming that the Hogwarts
> Express doesn't go north to come south again, the Hogwarts Express
> could not have been north of Peebles before sunset.
>
> Which, incidentally, means that the HE is faster than the East
> Coast Main Line Muggle trains, and I am very envious. :D
>
> --John
bboy_mn:
Ok John, let's see your direct evidence.
Where does it say in the book what time the sun went down relative to
their location?
Where does it say how fast they went? How far they went? Where they
were when the sun set.
You seem to be taking a percise sunset time and assigning it to a
specific location. While I admit, I'm assuming that. I see no other
way to apply the data to the conclusion. Even if you looked up the
sunset in the newspaper, the still doesn't help unless you have both
precise time AND LOCATION.
I see references like 'flew for hours'... but I see no exact time and
location data.
Now, it's alway getting dark when the arrive at Hogwarts. So you can
take leave at 11:00am and arrive at (look up sunset in paper which is
only good if you know longitude and latitude in advance) and have the
travel time. But travel time doesn't help without travel speed. One
way or another, you need a precise time and a pricise location.
Yes, they flew over Peebles which is 34 Kilometers south of Edinburgh.
For reference, 30K is about 18.6 miles.
According to my software world atlas, the train track (single track,
multi-track and light rail) runs 27 kilometers west of Peebles. And in
rough that same area 27K west of Peebles and few Kilometers north, the
train track splits and allows you to go EITHER to Glasgow or
Edinburgh. The same track that goes by Peeble can take you to either
place. Since there is no mention of the train going through another
major city, I have to assume that they are on one of the other tracks
that passes just slightly to the east of Glasgow which would roughly
follow the path: Larkhall, Bellshill, Airdrie, Cumbernauld as it
by-passes Glasgow.
There are other tracks that follow the coast line on either side of
the country, but there are no references to seeing the ocean as they
travel, so I have to assume they used the inland route.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
bboy_mn
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