Response to fanfic/slash/sex debate

Diana <dianasdolls@yahoo.com> dianasdolls at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 15 04:45:37 UTC 2003


>I wrote:
> > bboy_mn jumps on the same wagon with both feet:
> > >>If the problem is your kids reading my stories, then the 
problem is YOU. If your kids are reading racist literature then  
> > >>problem is YOU. If you kids are read about bomb making then 
the problem is YOU. It's not my job to supervise your kids. 
 
> bboy_mn replied:
 It IS the parent's responsibility to supervise their kids both
> generally and specifically. That is a general fact. A general fact
> who's existance in no way implies that you DO NOT supervise your
> children. How does saying children need to be supervised imply 
that I
> think you do not supervise yours? You may have inferred that, but I
> don't see that I implied that. At least, not when you apply my
> statements to the subject in general. In fact, your orginial post
> indicates that you specifically do control your children's internet
> use, but you are not all parents in general. Again, we must sort 
out
> what is general and what is specific.

Now me:
Sorry.  I have been so bombarded with responses asking me why I even 
read fanfic and why I participate on the HP4GUPS discussion board at 
all - just because I do not want to read HP fanfics, including slash 
or sex-filled fanfics that interfere with my personal version of the 
Potterverse.  Can you tell I've gotten rather touchy?  The fact that 
many of those same people responded have totally ignored the fact 
that I *don't* read fanfics and have stated it several times is 
getting really annoying.  
Discussing an HP character is not the same as immersing yourself in 
someone else's personal vision of the Potterverse through their 
fanfic.
 
> bboy again repies:
> Again... is that a mis-statement? I think not. The obvious solution
> is, if I don't like Buffy, then I shouldn't read Buffy. You also
> failed to include the part were I said "You have every right not to
> 'get it'. That is your priviledge.". 
> Some people attacked you as homophobic for not 'getting it' when it
> comes to slash. I tried to say that making that choice is not
> homophobic but the logical choice and a choice that is your
> priviledge. I was defending you, your rights, and your choices. 
That's why I gave the Buffy example. We all have likes and dislike, 
we all have preferences, we all have things we don't get. So we stay 
away from them. That is not prejudice, that's free choice.

Now me:
My point exactly.  It is my free choice to not read HP-based fanfic, 
including slash fanfic, ribald fanfic or whatever I choose not to 
read.  Take a number about being having your posts misread, my own 
posts have been mis-interpreted a lot lately as well.   :)  
Unfortunately, the heated exchanges lately have occurred because I 
and others are now under fire for not making the same choices that 
still others would make for themselves.

bboy_mn wrote:
> Common sense says that a huge number of people read slash because 
they find it appealing, and equally so, a huge number don't read it 
because they don't find it appealing. You don't find it appealing. 
That is your right and priviledge, and you can't and shouldn't be 
attacked for that. 

Now me:
Thank you.  I really do appreciate it, now that I've calmed down and 
have interpreted your posts more correctly.  

bboy_mn wrote:
> Part of the reason I defended you (although, apparently I didn't 
do it very well) is that, while uneasy with your use of the 
word 'normal' I read your intended use as 'common' or 'norm' as did 
many other people.

Now me:
You've confused me with another poster who used the term 'normal' 
when discussing this thread.  I never used that term in my posts.  
The other poster, who had some good points as well, explained her 
use of that term in later posts.  I can't find the post right now or 
I'd give you the message number.  

bboy_mn wrote:
> The whole confusion regarding what I wrote hinges on being able to
> differentiate between what addresses the subject in general and 
what
> is addressed to you personally. Whether you see it or not, after I
> addressed the subject in general, I defended your right to take the
> position you did take.
 
> And since by your own admission, you don't get it (slash that is) I
> attempted to explain who does get it and why they get it. A very
> substantial number of Slash readers and writer are hetrosexual 
young
> women. While logic would make one assume it was all gay men. I 
though
> that was a very significant point. That addresses who; the why is, 
we
> are having fun, and we are keeping our fun contained as much as is
> reasonably possible to like minded individuals who seek this
> information out.
> 
> I think if you go back and re-read what I wrote with a substantial
> effort to sort out what is addressed to the subject in general and
> what is addressed at you specifically, I hope you will see that 
I'm on
> your side. I was defending your right not to get it.
>Sorry if you didn't see it that way.

Now me:
Your point about specific versus in general is now understood.  I 
never expected when this thread progressed this far that there would 
be such a vociferous response to the simple fact that I choose not 
to read fanfic based on Harry Potter characters.  Thanks for 
understanding my point of view and I'm sorry for leaping on you with 
both feet.  ļ

Diana






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