Sandman: where do the three eve stories come from?

Petra Pan ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 15 17:28:08 UTC 2003


Amy Z, in part:
> Yeah, as people have said, Lilith
> shows up in a lot of Jewish 
> folklore.  There's been some
> interesting re-creation of this myth 
> by modern feminist theologians who
> note that Lilith was pretty spunky 
> and maybe ought to be rehabilitated
> now that we don't take so kindly 
> to religion's main message to women
> being "obey your husbands."  

Yes, amazing isn't it, that *spiritual* 
matters, once institutionalized by a 
particular group (any particular group), 
usually ends up favoring that said group 
in matters of *power* in terms of who 
gets to yield such power.  All too often, 
spirituality, which should be foremost in 
religions, somehow ends up a lesser 
concern.

On a completely different cultural front: 
wasn't the Lilith Fair named for this 
alternate concept of Eve?

> The creation-from-the-rib version
> comes later, in Genesis 2:7, 15-
> 24.  Gaiman, or whoever he got it
> from, is using some poetic license, 
> since there's nothing to indicate
> that Eve was created first.  But 
> it's significant that the Eve of
> the first creation story has a 
> better shot of being equal to Adam
> than the rib-Eve in that the 
> former was created at the same
> time as he, explicitly in God's
> image

Y'know, that creation-from-the-rib 
image has always seem like a male 
version of birthing-from-the-womb 
to me.
 
> (but of course, God was a MAN and
> Eve is a MERE WOMAN.  Never forget 
> that God has a penis.  And a Y
> chromosome in each cell of His body.  
> And testosterone flowing out of His
> endocrine system).

<HA!>  Just cracked MY rib trying to 
not guffaw out loud while on the 
company time clock!

So, <idly a-wondering> when did God 
have his bris?

Petra
a
n  :)

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