[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: OOP. Impressions. Spoilers. Anyone?

[Shaun Hately]

On 21 Jun 2003 at 15:15, kirst_inn wrote:

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> RIGHT: I've remembered what should have been in my earlier post. 
> That bloomin' prophecy storyline. How is that "a secret weapon"? 

Basic security principle. Never refer to what you are protecting accurately. That's my 
take, anyway. You want to conceal from as many people as possible what you are trying 
to hide or protect - you call it something different, especially something that sounds 
realistic and totally different to what you are guarding. Basic fieldcraft. 'Secret Weapon' 
is a pretty good term for such a thing.

> Just so that Voldemort could actually find out (or not, ta Neville) 
> the contents of the prophecy, ie that Harry is the only one who 
> could kill him? All that dream possession? I wonder if the good ol' 
> sleep dep (nice to hear of someone else as foolish as myself =p)is 
> making all this seem stranger than it should, but I have the feeling 
> I'm missing some essential part of the end-storyline.

I'm wondering if we will hear more - but I'm also wondering if those jars of prophecy may 
be similar to the idea of 'secret keepers'. Maybe there's something about prophecies 
that make them hard to tell to other people. Maybe the jar is the only way a prophecy 
can be easily passed on.

Maybe only those involved can pass on a prophecy directly to others. Dumbledore 
heard it - so he's involved and could tell Harry. Trelawney made it, so she's involved and 
maybe that's why Dumbledore wants to keep her in the school so much, so she can't 
pass it on. Voldemort is involved - but doesn't know what it is - and if it has similarities to 
Secret Keeping, he may not be able to find out easily.

Maybe that jar was his *only* chance to find out, short of asking the other people 
involved - Dumbledore, Trelawney, and now Harry.

Although who else was involved? The other people mentioned in the prophecy are Lily 
and James - maybe this explains why Voldemort was somewhat reluctant to kill Lily - 
because he wanted to hear the prophecy from her, he needed to keep someone alive to 
try and find out what he missed. This could possibly even explain the attack on Neville's 
parents - maybe some of Voldemort's followers were still working on the assumption that 
they knew they were the ones referred to in the prophecy and tried to torture them for 
information they did not have.

Speculation - but I think the idea that only people involved in the prophecy, as subjects, 
or as witnesses, or as seers, may be the only people able to pass it on... except possibly 
using that jar - and even that would require those prophesised about to collect it - I think 
it's worth considering.




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