[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Joanne Rowling's Doctorates

[Shaun Hately]

On 14 May 2003 at 6:59, bluesqueak wrote:

> I'm a bit puzzled, Shaun. The Medical Degree in the UK is MB. It 
> does not qualify you to call yourself 'Doctor'. To do *that* you 
> have to register with the General Medical Council, and take a year 
> of further training in a hospital.

Yes, but it's not training for a specific degree. It's additional training over degree 
training. The person does not have an academic doctorate.

And, I believe, it is rather unusual for a Medical doctor to have only an MB - most 
universities couple it with the BS or ChB automatically yielding MBBS or MBChB. This is 
a five year course, so I would assume it's what you are referring to - and it's a dual 
degree.

A single degree will allow for registration under the Medical Act 1983 but it is unusual for 
a Medical Doctor to only have the MB. In fact, I can't find any example of a Medical 
doctor with only the MB, but not the BS or ChB. I presume it's possible because the Act 
allows for it, and they wouldn't bother if it couldn't happen, but everything I have seen on 
this indicates the dual degree is near universal.


















> 
> A medical doctor in the UK trains for 6 years (5 years degree, one 
> final year hospital training). A PhD in the UK trains for 6 years (3 
> years undergraduate, 3 yrs Postgraduate). Same length of time.
> 
> > 
> > The fact that MBBS and MBChBs are entitled to call themselves 
> Doctors has nothing to 
> > do with their holding Honourary Degrees - most do *not* hold any 
> such degree. It's a 
> > courtesy based on longstanding tradition. Incidentally, British 
> surgeons - who have gone 
> > on to obtain more than their basic medical training - are 
> traditionally called 'Mister' - so a 
> > 'Doctor' becomes a 'Mister' when he becomes more qualified. Again, 
> it's a matter of 
> > tradition. And the traditions don't always slip neatly into the 
> hard and fast academic 
> > rules.
> > 
> Yup. It's a tradition developed from the fact that surgeons didn't 
> used to be academically trained; physicians always were. The 
> physicians used to insult the surgeons by calling them 'Mister', the 
> surgeons took it up as a badge of honour.
> 
> Nowadays, Mister Brown the surgeon probably has enough letters after 
> his name to provide alphabet soup to the entire hospital.
> 
> 
> Pip
> 
> 
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