The State of Bigotry in JKR's Homeland // Of curls and culture
Petra Pan
ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com
Thu May 22 04:57:36 UTC 2003
Lynn, in part:
> From what we understand, the schools
> in the area are either not equipped
> or not willing to deal with bi-lingual
> children. Part of the problem is
> that many of the kids are only there
> for a short time, usually 3 years, and
> perhaps the schools just don't have
> the resources to deal with the
> constant stream or just don't want to.
> However, what the schools have said is
> that the tests end up being lower
> since one year just isn't enough time
> to bring the kids up to the language
> and academic standards and then the
> test results are lower, which hurts
> the school standings. How in the
> world this applies to a four year old
> I have yet to figure out. They have
> national tests for four year olds?
> However, perhaps they feel they need
> to follow the policy without exception.
> Again, though, without finding out just
> where a student falls linguistically
> and academically seems strange to me.
To me also.
still Lynn:
> On the other hand, there could be kids
> from as many as 15 different countries
> who are needing to start school, all
> with a different language and different
> academic standards. Perhaps by
> refusing them all they are trying to
> avoid being accused of discrimination
> by saying the academic standards of
> this country are okay but that one is
> lacking.
Ah but if the concern is an academic one,
then why aren't applicants being assessed
academically INDIVIDUALLY?
Really, it's one thing to turn away
pupils that they are not capable of
educating but it's quite another for the
schools to enact a policy that is based
on the erroneous assumptions that
(a) they cannot teach anyone who is
bilingual,
(b) that everyone who's bilingual (read:
speaks English as a 2nd language) is
academically inferior, and
(c) the above are and will always be true,
without exception.
So are those schools prone to poor logic,
which is particularly egregious for
institutions of learning, in the formation
of their policies or are they hiding
motives they are unwilling to express in
their rejections? (This ever-so-suspicious
mind wants to know...<g>)
Y'know, it's a good thing your daughter
will not be spending her impressionable
years soaking up poor logic.
* * *
Marley:
> The scottish thing is important -
> I'll bet you 20 that if an Asian
> Scottish football fan was set
> upon by English football fans the
> scots would all rush to defend him.
> I also heard that many of the
> minorities in Scotland think of
> themselves as Scottish first, yet
> the same is not true of minorities
> in England. Maybe it's something to
> do with strong cultural identity.
Interesting point - cultural identity
used to be synonymous with racial
identity, and thus defined by physical
traits as opposed to actually cultural
ones. Conventional wisdom holds the
following rule of thumb to be true: If
someone looks and sounds like you, you
two probably share a common culture.
But in the more complicated world
today, how would your above scenario
work? We're talking about a situation
that doesn't exactly foster in-depth
exchanges of info on cultural
backgrounds.
In other words, how would the
rescuing Scots know that a fellow
Scottish football fan is being
attacked if the attacked is Asian in
appearance? I'm assuming that your
example is implying that the rescue
is prompted by the desire to defend
a fellow SCOTTish football fan from
the supporters of the rival English
team, and not because of anything
else. Heck, in the midst of the
melee, how would the Scots and the
Anglos know who's friend and who's
foe?
Is 'Gaelic-dar' a less well known
cousin of the gay-dar? <eg>
* * *
Yours truly:
> Y'know, on the one hand, public
> displays of prejudice appall me.
> But OTOH, driving the bigots
> underground only hides such
> tendencies, which is surely more
> insidious.
>
> The question of how a society can
> nudge bigots into shedding
> prejudices without triggering the
> defense mechanism and the digging
> in of heels has no easy answers
Tabouli, in part:
> I'd rather reform people than gag
> them. Not an easy task, as you
> say, but not triggering the defence
> mechanism is, in my experience,
> absolutely *CRUCIAL*.
>
> The problem with a lot of campaigning
> against prejudice is not the
> message, or the intention. Both are
> (usually) great. The problem is
> with the *marketing*. I've seen so
> many depressing "cultural diversity"
> sessions where the presenter gets up
> and starts a sermon telling people
> that they are Prejudiced Without
> Knowing It by virtue of being
> members of the majority culture,
> and illustrates this point with ten
> case studies of hidden prejudice
> caused by people like them which
> caused terrible suffering, and then
> hits them with a long list of
> ambiguous rules and terms which
> must be followed to the letter lest
> the wrath of the Discrimination Act
> fall upon their heads.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
But I do want to add that such efforts
are counter-productive because they
tend to define prejudice with hard-
and-fast rules for identifying 'markers'
of prejudice. Rules are easy and
do-able while insightful analysis is
hard to teach. Yet, what's the point of
rules when they inevitably apply only to
a specific set of circumstances? This
is temporal. We would be better off
with skills that can be applied with
more universality.
I much prefer people who know
their own prejudices, their own foibles
that they do not act upon than people who
cling to the belief that since they do
not have a prejudiced bone in their body,
they never have to be on the look out for
poor judgments of others on their own part.
The typical efforts in combating prejudice
inevitably encourage bigots to take the
latter approach.
Tabouli, in another part:
> Start by attacking them and their
> culture and the behaviour they consider
> reasonable and normal, attempt to
> blackmail them with emotional appeals
> and then threaten them with litigation
> if they fail to follow rules they
> consider confusing and intrusive and
> pointless... honestly! If anything,
> this will *increase* their prejudice!
Oh yes, this happens all the time in RL!
I must confess that I can't wait to see
how JKR ultimately develops the themes
of prejudice in HP; just what does she
have in store for the Death Eaters and
those of their ilk?
Tabouli:
<snip ex. of growth and paradigm shift>
> OK, so perhaps not a great triumph
> over prejudice, but a nudge, I feel.
Selling yourself short here. :)
Y'know, in helping your student to adopt
a different POV, you have improved her
life. I mean really, who wants to feel
insulted, right? Perhaps this is the
'spoonful of sugar' that would help make
our current experiments with cultural
diversity less of a chore and more of
A Great Adventure.
Ultimately, and practically speaking,
the shedding of bigotry can only be
motivated by possible improvement of the
bigots' experience of being alive.
Improvement of 'their lot at the expense
of mine' surely motivates nary a human
who'd insist on the greatest of divides
between 'me, myself & mine' and 'the
other'/'them.'
Petra chants: "31 days - just 31!"
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