Slut!Seamus and other ships
jeffl1965
jeffl1965 at sport.rr.com
Mon Sep 15 07:11:30 UTC 2003
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jdr0918" <jdr0918 at h...>
wrote:
> <<<In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jeffl1965" wrote:...Another
> thing, I'm curious as to why many seem to think that its quite cool
> for Dean and Seamus to be together, yet not for Harry and Ron? The
> same arguments I always hear can apply to them as well. "They're
best
> mates, and it would ruin things", "They're obviously straight",
> hello? Sometimes things happen. There aren't even obvious clues
many
> times...Now, is Seamus Catholic or Protestant?...>>>
>
> The Sergeant Majorette says
>
> For me, Ron has to be straight because his whole purpose in the
story
> seems to be to provide Harry with an anchor of normalcy in a world
> where he is accepted. And Harry has to be gay because he's too
> damaged psychologically to sustain a conventional relationship.
Draco
> has analagous damage, so it's easy to stick them together. Of
course,
> the kicker is that I've never read a realistic gay!Ron fic.
>
Jeff:
I agree with that. Ron isn't just his sidekick, he's there to be
his anchor, even with all of Ron's faults that others seem to hate,
he's still Harry's best friend and his guiding light, sorta. :) I'm
just waiting for Molly to suggest adopting Harry. Its obvious that
Ron talks so much about him in his owls and when he's home that Molly
feels *very* motherly towards him and I can easily see Harry moving
in with them to get the love he's been denied his whole life.
I think Harry has to be gay too for those reasons, and I think
that they way they hit it off so well and strongly on the first ride
to Hogwarts that there's love bewtix them. Not necssarily homosexual
love, but a very strong bond anyway. Harry has no real male idol,
until he learns the truth about his parent's deaths, and Sirius. But
with Ron, while they are the same age, Ron is taller and a big
brother helping Harry learn about the Wizarding World, so I can see
his feelings leaning that way. Ron also grew up with older brothers,
so same-sex play would be normal to him, and I'm sure it would be
brought up at some point, and since it is very intimate, and
especially during puberty (which is why most males always still have
a place in their heart for the first person they had sex with, since
its such a bonding act with them) that Harry would equate it with
love, and would feel love for Ron for that closeness that he never
had before.
I don't think there are lots of H/R stories out there, but some
are pretty good, and not all are PWP stories either. Many are just
too short. Snoogle still has a few, iirc, but FF.Net took them all
down, and others that are still there have been hidden. You have to
make a change to the url to find them now, but I've forgotten what it
is.
> Slut!Seamus, I don't understand either, but I'd say he's culturally
> Catholic because otherwise his religion becomes a plot point.
> Christmas (winter solstice) and Easter (spring) are holidays that
are
> celebrated more or less universally; many practitioners of Santeria
> and other syncretic American religions consider themselves
Catholic;
> people still think the Jesuits are a cult.
>
> --JDR
Yes, the Slut!Seamus origin is a mystery. One that might have to
be left for Robert Stack to solve. :) I agree that he could be
catholic, with his Gaelic name,and if he were named Patrick, then I'd
be for certain. :) Yeah, I've seen a bit about the Santeria religion.
Intresting blend, I'd say.
Jeff
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