[HPFGU-OTChatter] On Moderated and Un-Moderated Status

[Dina Lerret]

Steve said:

> First, don't be discouraged or get the idea that you are being picked
> on by the Moderators and List Elves. I give you my absolute assurance

Oh, I don't consider it personal--I like some of the list elves--however,
I don't think it fair.  Then again, many things aren't fair in life.


> felt very slighted. But in hindsight, my first post weren't that good.
> I did everything wrong. I posted right away without observing for a
> while. I posted things that I thought were brilliant discoveries like

Okay.  Read my next quoted comment.

> Also, many 'newbies' worry that what they are posting has already been
> discussed. I'm here to assure you that YES it has already been
> discussed, but we don't let that stop us from discussing it again.

Please define 'us'?


> You will be greatly rewarded for your effort, in that you will be able
> to give more depth and thought to your original idea, and may even
> discover a new angle (which happens all the time) on an old subject.

So, all the fuss I caught about how the main list is partly deteriorating
because of the redundancy of topics is hot air out of folks?


> Your opinions and ideas are valued in the main group and in all the
> sister groups, so if you really truly have an interest in discussing
> these books, hang in there and keep trying; I absolutely guarantee it
> will get better.

I'm curious... You're probably not on moderation--I could load up Eudora
and look at your header to see if a mod approved it or not but my computer
is low on memory resources now.  If you post a reply to a thread, it hits
the list, and a half hour later another message pertaining to the same
thread just hits the list and you want to reply to this message on-list,
will you be penalized for the second reply and placed back on moderation? 
I could probably compare your posts but I'm asking you instead.

I know a person under the moderation queue would be penalized and kept
under moderation because they can't predict any messages *after* they've
sent their reply.

I think the OTChatter group can offer a more comfortable area, unless the
rules are altered to be more strict, while the main HPFGU group will
always be a 'big brother is monitoring you - take it or leave it'.

I repeat - I do *not* care about altering the main list.  I don't
necessarily agree with the list rules but I don't care about altering
them.

I'm arguing there be a HPFGU 'lobby area' where folks can talk on or
off-topic and anywhere in between.  Take, for example, conventions have
specific areas for topic panels and 'down' areas (e.g. a lobby area) for
folks to chat together about what they heard/discussed during the panels
without a moderator monitoring them, so there's more spontaneity and
freedom to talk about whatever... or mentally prep them for the next
panel.  The OTChatter could be this list where it really doesn't matter
what the heck we're talking about.

While a chatroom generally doesn't keep transcripts for a person to reply
minutes/hours/days later, unlike a mailing list.

Dina