From ginnysthe1 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 00:26:39 2004
From: ginnysthe1 at yahoo.com (ginnysthe1)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:26:39 -0000
Subject: the worst HP merchandise
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEIDDGAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <coj33v+r6kt@eGroups.com>


> [Phil V. wrote]:
> | What about a pair of graying Snape underpants?
> | Smiles,
> | Phil

Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> And the mismatched pair of socks Dobby gave Harry, or the horrid 
socks Harry
> hated from Uncle Vernon.
> 
> Or, if you really want to get weird, something like "Relic Vials" 
containing
> slivers of Harry's demolished Nimbus..would that do?

Hi folks!

This is a great thread.  I think you're on to something with the 
mismatched socks.  I sometimes wear my own "home-made" brand, but I'd 
love to own a Dobby pair...    I was surprised when I saw Bertie 
Bott's every flavor beans for sale and that there really were icky 
flavors.  I never had the heart (or stomach) to open the box and try 
them.  Have any of you tried them and lived to tell the tale... ;-)? 

How about a book of recipes including pumpkin juice and Hagrid's 
stone cakes (what are those awful things called?) for the HP fan who 
loves to cook?

Cheers, Kim






From penmouse756 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  1 02:08:06 2004
From: penmouse756 at yahoo.com (penmouse756)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 02:08:06 -0000
Subject: the worst HP merchandise
In-Reply-To: <coj33v+r6kt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <coj926+r09v@eGroups.com>


Hi Kim,
I went to Convention Alley in Ottawa this past summer and a whole 
group of girls was playing a game where everyone would pop a Bertie 
Botts bean and then wait to see who got the nasty ones! It was a 
hoot to see the reactions.
I tried them myself and it is amazing how real the flavours are - 
grass (not too bad), dirt (tastes just like it), earthworm (tastes 
like salty dirt), spinach (not bad). For me, the sardine one was the 
worst, although I was very lucky not to get the vomit. I smelled it 
and it smells like vomit and I have it on good authority that it 
tastes like it too. The smell was more than enough for me.
Be brave and try them; it is fun with a gang, believe it or not. 
Just have some kleenex and a glass of water handy!
Jess 

> Hi folks!
> 
> This is a great thread.  I think you're on to something with the 
> mismatched socks.  I sometimes wear my own "home-made" brand, but 
I'd 
> love to own a Dobby pair...    I was surprised when I saw Bertie 
> Bott's every flavor beans for sale and that there really were icky 
> flavors.  I never had the heart (or stomach) to open the box and 
try 
> them.  Have any of you tried them and lived to tell the tale... ;-
)? 
> 
> How about a book of recipes including pumpkin juice and Hagrid's 
> stone cakes (what are those awful things called?) for the HP fan 
who 
> loves to cook?
> 
> Cheers, Kim






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec  1 02:10:59 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 02:10:59 -0000
Subject: the worst HP merchandise
In-Reply-To: <coj33v+r6kt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <coj97j+vh5v@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "ginnysthe1" 
<ginnysthe1 at y...> wrote:
>   I was surprised when I saw Bertie 
> Bott's every flavor beans for sale and that there really were icky 
> flavors.  I never had the heart (or stomach) to open the box and 
try 
> them.  Have any of you tried them and lived to tell the tale... ;-
)? 
> 
> How about a book of recipes including pumpkin juice and Hagrid's 
> stone cakes (what are those awful things called?) for the HP fan 
who 
> loves to cook?
> 
> Cheers, Kim

imamommy:

I tried everything but vomit.  Earwax was realistic enough to inform 
me I wanted nothing to do with vomit.  I feel sorry for Jelly Belly's 
professional tasters.

imamommy
Who would bribe house elves to release the secret Hogwarts treacle 
tart recipe (I actually saw treacle in the ethnic food aisle at 
Meijer's the other day!)






From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Wed Dec  1 10:07:57 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:07:57 -0000
Subject: the worst HP merchandise
In-Reply-To: <coj97j+vh5v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cok55t+a6lh@eGroups.com>


 Kim:
> > How about a book of recipes including pumpkin juice and Hagrid's 
> > stone cakes (what are those awful things called?) for the HP fan 
> who 
> > loves to cook?

Would that be rock cakes? They're a real recipe and if not made by 
Hagrid, very tasty.

http://www.letscook.co.uk/rockcake.html

> 
> imamommy
> Who would bribe house elves to release the secret Hogwarts treacle 
> tart recipe (I actually saw treacle in the ethnic food aisle at 
> Meijer's the other day!)

http://thefoody.com/pudding/treacletart.html
(this site has a wealth of traditional recipes)

Two notes:
1) I haven't actually cooked from either of these versions (it was 
just quicker than getting out a cook book), but they look OK.
2) remember that despite the name, you need Golden Syrup (made by 
Lyle's, comes in a green and golden tin) and that *treacle* is quite 
different (I believe the equivalent of molasses). You *cannot* make a 
treacle tart with black treacle. Treacle toffee, yes, tart no. Do I 
make myself clear? ;-)

~Eloise
PS I just "Froogled" Golden Syrup and got lots of hits. In fact if 
you follow the links to some of the UK food importers you'll find 
lots of other British staples as well. And not so staples - just 
found lamb and mint sauce flavoured crisps on special offer. ;-)






From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  1 14:14:14 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:14:14 -0000
Subject: the worst HP merchandise
In-Reply-To: <cok55t+a6lh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cokjjm+rtvh@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "eloise_herisson" 
<eloiseherisson at a...> wrote:

> Would that be rock cakes? They're a real recipe and if not made by 
> Hagrid, very tasty.
> 
> http://www.letscook.co.uk/rockcake.html


Yum, those look pretty tasty in real life. They look like scones 
that haven't been cut-out into shapes. I always imagined Hagrid's 
rock cakes as similar to these 'healthy' energy bars I made once 
with lots of oats, nuts and raisins, but unfortunately without the 
baking powder--they were rather flat and rock-like and well, *dense*.

Jen, who loves to bake but gets distracted occasionally ;).








From spin01 at aol.com  Wed Dec  1 20:35:05 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:35:05 -0000
Subject: WB missing out on a lot of merchandising
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Message-ID: <col9tp+1cpe@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Heidi Tandy <lists at h...> 
wrote:

but still, there's no line of bath potions by Snape.

Funny thought as he is not one you think of when thinking about 
relaxing right?  But.....  there is that scene in goblet of fire 
where Harry is in the bath trying to figure out the egg.  maybe there 
will be some rainbow colored bubble bath coming out.
sherry







From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Wed Dec  1 22:24:07 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:24:07 -0000
Subject: WB missing out on a lot of merchandising
In-Reply-To: <col9tp+1cpe@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <colga7+7tuf@eGroups.com>


sherry wrote:
> 
> Funny thought as he is not one you think of when thinking about 
> relaxing right?  But.....  there is that scene in goblet of fire 
> where Harry is in the bath trying to figure out the egg.  maybe 
there 
> will be some rainbow colored bubble bath coming out.

Now there's a thought: Moaning Myrtle bubble bath - I suggest a semi-
transparent Myrtle-shaped bottle that moans appropriately when 
squeezed...

:D






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Dec  1 22:48:11 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:48:11 -0800
Subject: *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
References: <col9tp+1cpe@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005101c4d7f7$d6241780$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

We may have a lot of in-fighting and
hissy fits but damned if I don't feel
more welcome here then in smaller
fandoms.

I just got yelled at in another group
for another fandom for making a simple
comment that I didn't think a
fanfiction was AU.  Apparently the
writer was so disgusted I said
something about her warnings (despite
the fact that in the next two
paragraphs I praised her work up down
and sidewise), that she's no longer
posting them to that list.

Er...sorry?

*sigh*  Maybe I should stick to HP
where people at least have someone at
their back.  Sucks though, I was
enjoying being a part of a fandom that
I didn't help run part of it.

*dreaming of a world where there are no
modly duties*

Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec  2 00:13:09 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:13:09 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
In-Reply-To: <005101c4d7f7$d6241780$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <008501c4d803$b5e8a240$0400a8c0@pensive>

Speaking of fandom and fics,

once you said that you had several fics up on fiction alley.  Could you send
me links to them?  I'd love to read them, and I find the searching on
fiction alley to be a really big pain in the neck.  grin.

Sherry G


-----Original Message-----
From: Saitaina [mailto:saitaina at frontiernet.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:48 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*



We may have a lot of in-fighting and
hissy fits but damned if I don't feel
more welcome here then in smaller
fandoms.

I just got yelled at in another group
for another fandom for making a simple
comment that I didn't think a
fanfiction was AU.  Apparently the
writer was so disgusted I said
something about her warnings (despite
the fact that in the next two
paragraphs I praised her work up down
and sidewise), that she's no longer
posting them to that list.

Er...sorry?

*sigh*  Maybe I should stick to HP
where people at least have someone at
their back.  Sucks though, I was
enjoying being a part of a fandom that
I didn't help run part of it.

*dreaming of a world where there are no
modly duties*

Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Thu Dec  2 00:16:00 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:16:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
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Saitaina said:

> I just got yelled at in another group
> for another fandom for making a simple
> comment that I didn't think a
> fanfiction was AU.  Apparently the

Happens in this fandom too.  I'm going to be misogynist in that I wonder
if part of the fights are because the trends reflect more female fanfic
writers.

Each time I see Draco's sorry arse attempts at verbal insults, I'm like
'that's pathetic' and need to keep reminding myself the HP books are
supposed to be 'all ages'.


> *sigh*  Maybe I should stick to HP
> where people at least have someone at
> their back.  Sucks though, I was

Hm, that part sometimes bugs me in the sense certain fans have 'minions'
to defend them and I'm like 'can't you defend yourself'.


> enjoying being a part of a fandom that
> I didn't help run part of it.

Hehe, that's why I never want to mod anything in the HP fandom.

If you don't mind sharing, who was the meanie fandom?

...Dude, I'm *tired*.  I'm behind on email and LJ... oh yeah, and I missed
the TRL GOF set thing because I was behind.  I got about to page 3 or
4'ish on HP:SS before zzzzz.

Dina






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Dec  2 00:29:21 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:29:21 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
References: <008501c4d803$b5e8a240$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <008b01c4d805$f8af7160$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Sherry G wrote:

<Could you send
me links to them?  I'd love to read
them, and I find the searching on
fiction alley to be a really big pain
in the neck.  grin.>

Uh, I can direct link you to my
author's page for each house, I can't
direct link you to the stories.  My
"several" fics currently stands at
thirty in total (well, total for those
on FA, I don't even want to know how
many I wrote during my Mary-Sue years).

Warning first, most of what I write is
slash...all non slash would be in the
Dark Art section...like..three or five.

Schnoogle.com--Novel length--

http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Saitaina/
(Only pay attention to The End of the
Beginning, everything else died year
ago and are unfinished and probably
never will be, only up because I keep
getting tempted to go back)

AstronomyTower.org--Romance--

http://www.astronomytower.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/

TheDarkArts.org--The Dark and angsty
works--

http://www.thedarkarts.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/
(Het/Gen Fics: Empty Chairs, Last
Kisses and Final Wishes (might have one
slash pairing), Once Upon a December,
One Last Moment Together, Superman,
Through These Years, Time of Your Life,
Was I Even There?)

Riddikulus.org--Humor--

http://www.riddikulus.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/

Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Dec  2 00:40:53 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:40:53 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
References: <col9tp+1cpe@eGroups.com>    <005101c4d7f7$d6241780$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> <3618.4.47.27.199.1101946560.squirrel@4.47.27.199>
Message-ID: <009901c4d807$94fe9720$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Dina wrote:

<Hm, that part sometimes bugs me in the
sense certain fans have 'minions'
to defend them and I'm like 'can't you
defend yourself'.>

No.  :)

But I meant that there are friends you
can lean on for comfort instead of
feeling like an outcast.  And I want a
minion *pouts*

<If you don't mind sharing, who was the
meanie fandom?>

FAKE.  Manga series I've become
addicted to.

<oh yeah, and I missed
the TRL GOF set thing because I was
behind.>

*pouts*  I didn't even know about it
and now can't find clips of it.  One of
my friends keeps teasing me with
details of Tom.

Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec  2 01:53:50 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:53:50 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
In-Reply-To: <008b01c4d805$f8af7160$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <009001c4d811$c5cc9820$0400a8c0@pensive>

Thanks.  That helps a bunch.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Saitaina [mailto:saitaina at frontiernet.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:29 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*



Sherry G wrote:

<Could you send
me links to them?  I'd love to read
them, and I find the searching on
fiction alley to be a really big pain
in the neck.  grin.>

Uh, I can direct link you to my
author's page for each house, I can't
direct link you to the stories.  My
"several" fics currently stands at
thirty in total (well, total for those
on FA, I don't even want to know how
many I wrote during my Mary-Sue years).

Warning first, most of what I write is
slash...all non slash would be in the
Dark Art section...like..three or five.

Schnoogle.com--Novel length--

http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Saitaina/
(Only pay attention to The End of the
Beginning, everything else died year
ago and are unfinished and probably
never will be, only up because I keep
getting tempted to go back)

AstronomyTower.org--Romance--

http://www.astronomytower.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/

TheDarkArts.org--The Dark and angsty
works--

http://www.thedarkarts.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/
(Het/Gen Fics: Empty Chairs, Last
Kisses and Final Wishes (might have one
slash pairing), Once Upon a December,
One Last Moment Together, Superman,
Through These Years, Time of Your Life,
Was I Even There?)

Riddikulus.org--Humor--

http://www.riddikulus.org/authorLinks/Saitaina/

Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Thu Dec  2 05:59:40 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:59:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
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Saitaina said:

> No.  :)

{chuckle}


> But I meant that there are friends you
> can lean on for comfort instead of
> feeling like an outcast.  And I want a
> minion *pouts*

{g}  It's not about quality fic writing; it's about advertising.


> FAKE.  Manga series I've become
> addicted to.

Ah, I've seen the name pop-up before.  Well, I can't knock 'small fandoms'
since I can't seem to find much for 28 Days Later--hehe, wonder why.

And I'm going to say: AFF.net :-(

File corruption out to wazoo.


> *pouts*  I didn't even know about it
> and now can't find clips of it.  One of
> my friends keeps teasing me with
> details of Tom.

One of the large Daniel Radcliffe sites (hooked up to HPANA) has clips. 
Tom Felton made a brief appearance for just a quickie handjob to sign the
MTV intern's book or something, and he asked TF about being the 'bad guy'.

Dina






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec  2 06:29:33 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 06:29:33 -0000
Subject: Treacle Tart (was Re: the worst HP merchandise)
In-Reply-To: <cok55t+a6lh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <comcod+jfln@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "eloise_herisson" 
<eloiseherisson at a...> wrote:
>> > imamommy
> > Who would bribe house elves to release the secret Hogwarts 
treacle 
> > tart recipe (I actually saw treacle in the ethnic food aisle at 
> > Meijer's the other day!)
> 
> http://thefoody.com/pudding/treacletart.html
> (this site has a wealth of traditional recipes)
> 
> Two notes:
> 1) I haven't actually cooked from either of these versions (it was 
> just quicker than getting out a cook book), but they look OK.
> 2) remember that despite the name, you need Golden Syrup (made by 
> Lyle's, comes in a green and golden tin) and that *treacle* is 
quite 
> different (I believe the equivalent of molasses). You *cannot* make 
a 
> treacle tart with black treacle. Treacle toffee, yes, tart no. Do I 
> make myself clear? ;-)
> 
> ~Eloise
> PS I just "Froogled" Golden Syrup and got lots of hits. In fact if 
> you follow the links to some of the UK food importers you'll find 
> lots of other British staples as well. And not so staples - just 
> found lamb and mint sauce flavoured crisps on special offer. ;-)



Thanks, I'm excited to try it.  Maybe I should froogle some Morn 
Flake for my hubby while I'm at it.

imamommy






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Dec  2 06:06:10 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:06:10 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *takes a moment to schnoogle fandom*
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Dina wrote:


<Tom Felton made a brief appearance for
just a quickie handjob >

*fall out of chair laughing till she
turns purple*  Goddess, don't say
things like that when I've been awake
for thirty hours...

*laughs harder* Quickie handjob....oh
the mental images...
Saitaina
****
 No story that starts with 'going down
on someone' and ends with a trip to the
ER can ever be good.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Dec  2 14:40:16 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:40:16 -0000
Subject: JKR's gone all festive
Message-ID: <con9gg+4epa@eGroups.com>


Have you seen the website?  She's got Christmas in every conceivable 
place.  Even the vase that's usually filled with Daffodils (yes, even 
in winter) has now got holly in it!!

Ah...it make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Sarah xx






From stonehenge.orders at verizon.net  Thu Dec  2 18:59:19 2004
From: stonehenge.orders at verizon.net (kjirstem)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:59:19 -0000
Subject: Hogwarts letters (from HPFGU)
Message-ID: <conom7+k0ac@eGroups.com>


> 
> Carol, who thinks that any eleven-year-old Muggleborn who *wanted*
> to go to Hogwarts would hate her parents forever if they deprived 
>her of her one chance to go to "magic school"

kjirstem:

No kidding!  I think my seven-year-old would stop speaking to me if
she knew I thought it was more important to study math than magic.  

I think the reason this thread (on the main list) interests me is
because of my daughter's continued belief that she'll get to go to
Hogwarts someday.  She was convinced she'd be going this year, since
her best friend had said that was the case and her best friend is
infallible.  It is interesting to listen to her thoughts about what
she would miss in the Muggle world; she's gotten around the fear of
leaving home and family by deciding that I would be going too, as an
assistant to McGonagall.  

She knows HP is pretend, if she bothers to think about it, so I see no
reason to take away her fun.  I hope she isn't terribly dissappointed
a few years from now.  

kjirstem - wondering why there are so few posts when she has nothing
to do...






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Dec  2 19:35:30 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:35:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Hogwarts letters (from HPFGU)
In-Reply-To: <conom7+k0ac@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOOEKBDGAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[kjirstem wrote]:
| No kidding!  I think my seven-year-old would stop speaking to me if
| she knew I thought it was more important to study math than magic.
|
| I think the reason this thread (on the main list) interests me is
| because of my daughter's continued belief that she'll get to go to
| Hogwarts someday.  She was convinced she'd be going this year, since
| her best friend had said that was the case and her best friend is
| infallible.  It is interesting to listen to her thoughts about what
| she would miss in the Muggle world; she's gotten around the fear of
| leaving home and family by deciding that I would be going too, as an
| assistant to McGonagall.

[Lee]:
Ah--being seven again...what a lovely thought!  Things were so much simpler
then, weren't they? :-)

I was a huge believer in fairy tales and was convinced I had fairies living
in my ear.  The imagination is such a wonderful place and I seriously
believe that many an adult loses something wonderful by training imagination
away. :-) That's why I never really grew up! <LOL>

Now, I'd still love to go to Hogwarts as a Muggle Studies teacher...think
that would work?  Perhaps I never got there when I was 11 because...well...I
don' know... But my being 11 was 34 years ago and, maybe, if I promise to
take extra courses and such, maybe I'd still get in??? Maybe??? :-))

[kjirstem continues]:

| She knows HP is pretend, if she bothers to think about it, so I see no
| reason to take away her fun.  I hope she isn't terribly dissappointed
| a few years from now.

[Lee]:
IMO, if kids have a good, stable foundation, they'll know, and won't be as
disappointed as one might think, provided the issue isn't pushed.  I can say
from my own experience that my discovery of Christmas presents and figuring
out what a couple of them were was more of an intrigue than a
disappointment...and that was when I was nine.  It was like something
clicked...I can't really explain it right, but there was a sort of,
"Oh--Okay," kind of thing.

Suffice it to say that I still love Santa, and it's fun to be one as well as
to receive from one. :-)

Fortunately, I had a Mom who was a great imaginator, too; she was a loving
and very fun person who was loved by everyone she encountered.  I still
think she may have been part witch--a healing witch--because it seemed as
though anything or any one who was lost, hurt, needing love, somehow always
homed in on my Mom...and I'm talking about strangers as well as friends.
And she was always available with hugs, comfort, laughter.

Gracious! Let me stop rambling here! :-)

Here's to imagination!

Cheers,
Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From stonehenge.orders at verizon.net  Thu Dec  2 19:48:55 2004
From: stonehenge.orders at verizon.net (kjirstem)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:48:55 -0000
Subject: Hogwarts letters (from HPFGU)
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOOEKBDGAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <conrj7+g609@eGroups.com>


> [Lee]:
> 
> Now, I'd still love to go to Hogwarts as a Muggle Studies
>teacher...think that would work?  Perhaps I never got there when I
>was 11 because...well...I  don' know... But my being 11 was 34 years
>ago and, maybe, if I promise to
> take extra courses and such, maybe I'd still get in??? Maybe??? :-))
> 

kjirstem:

Sounds good to me!  Youth is wasted on the young, and all that...


> Lee:

> Fortunately, I had a Mom who was a great imaginator, too; she was a
>loving and very fun person who was loved by everyone she encountered.
 >I still think she may have been part witch--a healing witch--because
>it seemed as though anything or any one who was lost, hurt, needing
>love, somehow always homed in on my Mom...and I'm talking about
>strangers as well as friends. And she was always available with hugs,
>comfort, laughter.


kjirstem:

Your mother sounds wonderful, you were very fortunate.  Part of the
reason I don't intrude with the RW when my daughter is playing is that
I recall my mother being very concerned about whether I *really*
believed in Oz.  Just her concern took all the fun out of it.  






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Dec  2 20:10:24 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:10:24 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hogwarts letters (from HPFGU)
In-Reply-To: <conrj7+g609@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOKEKCDGAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[kjirstem wrote]:
| kjirstem:
|
| Your mother sounds wonderful, you were very fortunate.  Part of the
| reason I don't intrude with the RW when my daughter is playing is that
| I recall my mother being very concerned about whether I *really*
| believed in Oz.  Just her concern took all the fun out of it.

I understand.  There's concern, and then there's "overkill" concern...the
kind that's intrusive or critical.  I love the situation in "Charlotte's
Web" where Fern's mother was intrusively concerned...enough to take Fern to
a doctor who basically told the mother to chill out.  Only after the doctor
had told her to chill did she, so to speak. :-)

Unfortunately, people often have set ideas on when imaginary worlds should
be put aside; they fail to realize that things are as individual for every
individual.  (Is that confusing or what!) :-)

My husband and I will walk through a little alleyway and try to consider if
there might be some secret entrance into Diagon Alley or some other
wizarding establishment. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  3 09:38:00 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:38:00 -0000
Subject: Lawn Prongs
Message-ID: <copc5o+vk0l@eGroups.com>


As I walked on the street in the dark, I saw an illuminated-lights 
white stag moving back and forth in place.  Somebody has set it up as 
a Christmas decoration on their lawn.  I should try to get a pic or 
movie, perhaps in costume doing the Patronus charm...  






From chiara.fantoni at cec.eu.int  Fri Dec  3 10:53:23 2004
From: chiara.fantoni at cec.eu.int (gracchietto)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:53:23 -0000
Subject: Would you have him on a Harry Potter film? And if so, in which role?
Message-ID: <copgj3+7dgt@eGroups.com>


Hi everyone!

I know this is essentially a film question, but I'm not on that 
group and would love your opinion anyway.

I know JKR makes a point of having British-only actors for the films.

I'm a big Martin Shaw fan (started with "The Professionals" back in 
the early '80s, and went on to the most recent "Judge John Deed" 
and "Death in Holy Orders" and awaiting eagerly for the 
announced "Murder Room").

He's British all right.

Would you see him in one of the future films?

If so, in which role?

Chiara






From siskiou at vcem.com  Sat Dec  4 01:07:37 2004
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:07:37 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Would you have him on a Harry Potter film? And if so, in which role?
In-Reply-To: <copgj3+7dgt@eGroups.com>
References: <copgj3+7dgt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1864601701.20041203170737@vcem.com>



Hi,

Friday, December 3, 2004, 2:53:23 AM, chiara.fantoni at cec.eu.int wrote:

> I'm a big Martin Shaw fan (started with "The Professionals" back in
> the early '80s, and went on to the most recent "Judge John Deed"
> and "Death in Holy Orders" and awaiting eagerly for the 
> announced "Murder Room").

> He's British all right.

> Would you see him in one of the future films?

> If so, in which role?


I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him in HP (having been a
big Doyle fan).

Has he been on the big screen lately?

I remember a few movies (a Sinbad one, The Hound of
Baskerville, Ladder of Swords), but most of his work is for
TV, I think.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From potionmistress at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  4 07:44:03 2004
From: potionmistress at earthlink.net (Narcissa Malfoy)
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 07:44:03 -0000
Subject: OT: FFnet deleted AYLNO, protect HP FanFic!
Message-ID: <corps3+ira1@eGroups.com>



Requesting Assistance: Dear readers, many of us Harry Potter fanwriters are fans of Aspen 
in the Sunlight's story, "A Year Like None Other." As most of you probably know, that very 
popular story was deleted this week by fanfiction dot net for alleged "explicit adult 
content." But those of us who have read the story are well-aware that there IS NO adult 
content or romance of any kind in Aspen's story! Please send an email to info at fanfiction 
dot net and point this fact out to them. That deletion was completely unwarranted, and 
Aspen deserves to have her story restored. And fanfiction dot net should also change their 
reporting abuse function, because it is clearly being abused by users of this website.









From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Sat Dec  4 20:56:51 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 20:56:51 -0000
Subject: Would you have him on a Harry Potter film? And if so, in which role?
In-Reply-To: <1864601701.20041203170737@vcem.com>
Message-ID: <cot8aj+a7l8@eGroups.com>


Chiara:
> 
> > I'm a big Martin Shaw fan (started with "The Professionals" back 
in
> > the early '80s, and went on to the most recent "Judge John Deed"
> > and "Death in Holy Orders" and awaiting eagerly for the 
> > announced "Murder Room").
> 
> > He's British all right.
> 
> > Would you see him in one of the future films?
> 
> > If so, in which role?
> 
Susanne> I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him in HP (having been a
> big Doyle fan).
> 
> Has he been on the big screen lately?
> 
> I remember a few movies (a Sinbad one, The Hound of
> Baskerville, Ladder of Swords), but most of his work is for
> TV, I think.

Yes, TV I think.
I just looked him up on Google and I know you get these all the time, 
but I couldn't help chuckling at the inevitable eBay link:
.............................................
Sponsored Links 
 
Martin Shaw For Sale
Low Priced Martin Shaw.
Big Selection! (aff)
ebay.co.uk 
.......................................................

How come I've never come across one when I've been on eBay? I might 
have put in a bid.

~Eloise
who assumes that eBay will also promise her a bargain priced Rickman, 
a cut price Colin Firth, an invitation to check out the deals on Sean 
Connerys and perhaps, if very lucky, even a fantastic deal on Richard 
Armitages, only to cruelly dash her hopes
                  






From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun Dec  5 01:09:13 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:09:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The horror that is Galaxy Quest (rubberhead!Rickman)
Message-ID: <2893.4.12.232.25.1102208953.squirrel@4.12.232.25>

Ugh, I subjected myself to apprx. six minutes near the end of this
movie--for those curious, it's on TBS tonight (US TV - check your listing
for time). {whistles}  The only reason why I stopped flipping channels was
to speck out Alan Rickman.

I enjoyed Airplane--even have the DVD--but I think some cheezy movies
should be buried in the deepest vaults where no one looks... or in other
words, my closet.

Granted, I'm easily amused (like lesbian orgies and bad LOTR puns? speck
out Lord of the G-Strings - funny movie and some *hot* chicks) but I
couldn't watch the rest of Galaxy Quest, even for Alan Rickman--hm, throw
in Rickman snogging Thewlis and I *might* watch the rest.  What did
slightly amuse me was seeing the 'bad' aliens with spidery legs on their
heads because this reminded me of an image from Moste Potent Potions.

Dina

-- 
"I want to thank the people who came out to wave with all five
fingers." - President Bush during visit to Canada
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/01/lt.03.html






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec  5 05:02:27 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 5 Dec 2004 05:02:27 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1102222947.14.53335.m23@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 5, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  5 06:04:14 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 06:04:14 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site
Message-ID: <cou8cu+pmia@eGroups.com>


Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on the 
pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink flow 
shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra Stuff" 
section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will 
someone help me out, please?

imamommy






From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  5 06:54:42 2004
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 06:54:42 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <cou8cu+pmia@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <coubbi+a918@eGroups.com>



I'm totally stumped.... how do you get to the rubbish bin?


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
wrote:
> 
> Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on 
the 
> pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink 
flow 
> shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra Stuff" 
> section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will 
> someone help me out, please?
> 
> imamommy






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec  5 16:02:22 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 5 Dec 2004 16:02:22 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1102262542.24.94414.m10@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 5, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From editor at texas.net  Sun Dec  5 16:20:10 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:20:10 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The horror that is Galaxy Quest (rubberhead!Rickman)
References: <2893.4.12.232.25.1102208953.squirrel@4.12.232.25>
Message-ID: <001d01c4dae6$abed37c0$3059aacf@texas.net>

Interesting. I found Galaxy Quest to be one of the funniest movies I've ever
seen, immediately went out and bought it after I rented it, and did not (at
the time) have much familiarity with Alan Rickman. It wasn't for the stars.
I just loved the movie. It's a superb spoof of a genre, that can still stand
on its own for story and humor.

~Amanda

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dina Lerret" <redina at silverbloom.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 7:09 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The horror that is Galaxy Quest
(rubberhead!Rickman)


> Ugh, I subjected myself to apprx. six minutes near the end of this
> movie--for those curious, it's on TBS tonight (US TV - check your listing
> for time). {whistles}  The only reason why I stopped flipping channels was
> to speck out Alan Rickman.
>
> I enjoyed Airplane--even have the DVD--but I think some cheezy movies
> should be buried in the deepest vaults where no one looks... or in other
> words, my closet.
>
> Granted, I'm easily amused (like lesbian orgies and bad LOTR puns? speck
> out Lord of the G-Strings - funny movie and some *hot* chicks) but I
> couldn't watch the rest of Galaxy Quest, even for Alan Rickman--hm, throw
> in Rickman snogging Thewlis and I *might* watch the rest.  What did
> slightly amuse me was seeing the 'bad' aliens with spidery legs on their
> heads because this reminded me of an image from Moste Potent Potions.
>
> Dina
>
> --
> "I want to thank the people who came out to wave with all five
> fingers." - President Bush during visit to Canada
> http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/01/lt.03.html
>
>
>
>
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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  5 18:38:44 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:38:44 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <coubbi+a918@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <covkjk+t69g@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "golden_faile" 
<golden_faile at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm totally stumped.... how do you get to the rubbish bin?


On the right side of the desk, move your mouse around until you find 
a Droobles Gum wrapper that moves, then click on it.

imamommy

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on 
> the 
> > pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink 
> flow 
> > shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra Stuff" 
> > section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will 
> > someone help me out, please?
> > 
> > imamommy






From Botbyl at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  5 18:43:54 2004
From: Botbyl at hotmail.com (Kara Botbyl)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:43:54 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New Potion on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <covkjk+t69g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY13-F11B444B1BC452F1A72DD30C1B30@phx.gbl>



>From: "elady25" <imamommy at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New Potion on JKR's site
>Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:38:44 -0000
>
>
>--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "golden_faile"
><golden_faile at y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm totally stumped.... how do you get to the rubbish bin?
>
>
>On the right side of the desk, move your mouse around until you find
>a Droobles Gum wrapper that moves, then click on it.
>
>imamommy
>
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on
> > the
> > > pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink
> > flow
> > > shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra Stuff"
> > > section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will
> > > someone help me out, please?
> > >
> > > imamommy
>
>
>

Well there are bubbles, Im not sure which one its in the key or pen or what 
on the main page...The one with the plaques Sirius Harry Potter, The 
Lexicon...Stuff like that....Well at the top there is a little box move it, 
and there are bubbles...There are also tooth picks. Thats in one of those 
too, uhm where there is picture of her and her husband, there are tooth 
picks there and I cant remember the last one...sorry!

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From bhobbs at midmaine.com  Sun Dec  5 19:08:47 2004
From: bhobbs at midmaine.com (Belinda)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 19:08:47 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <BAY13-F11B444B1BC452F1A72DD30C1B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <covmbv+1v5a@eGroups.com>


Wondering if something is new?
How many extras should you have in your scrapbook?
How do you get them?
When did updates happen?
Who has been wished a Happy Birthday?
For a complete and detailed guide to everything on Jo's site you can 
visit this forum at Fiction Alley Park.
http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?
s=&forumid=197







From mkeller01 at alltel.net  Sun Dec  5 18:26:32 2004
From: mkeller01 at alltel.net (jksunflower2002)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:26:32 -0000
Subject: The horror that is Galaxy Quest (rubberhead!Rickman)
In-Reply-To: <001d01c4dae6$abed37c0$3059aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <covjso+ldk7@eGroups.com>



I think being a Star Trek....enthusiast definitely heightens ones 
appreciation for "Galaxy Quest."  Spot on humor.

Toad (more of an HP enthusiast these days)










From averyhaze at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  5 20:25:07 2004
From: averyhaze at hotmail.com (onnanokata)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:25:07 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <BAY13-F11B444B1BC452F1A72DD30C1B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <covqr3+6d00@eGroups.com>



"golden_faile" wrote:


I'm totally stumped.... how do you get to the rubbish bin?


imamommy

On the right side of the desk, move your mouse around until you find
a Droobles Gum wrapper that moves, then click on it.



<imamommy at s...>wrote:

Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on
the pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink
flow shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra Stuff"
section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will
someone help me out, please?

imamommy



Kara Botby wrote:

Well there are bubbles, Im not sure which one its in the key or pen or
what on the main page...The one with the plaques Sirius Harry Potter,
The Lexicon...Stuff like that....Well at the top there is a little box
move it, and there are bubbles...There are also tooth picks. Thats in
one of those too, uhm where there is picture of her and her husband,
there are tooth picks there and I cant remember the last one...sorry!

Dharma replies:

The three things you need are:

The Eggshells-which are in the rubbish bin room on the floor to the
right of the bin.

The Dog Hairs?-which look like tooth picks or sticks.  They are taped
to the corkboard, if you don't see them right away, try clicking
around the sheet that had the frist set of potion ingidients on it. 
You'll be able to see the tape that keeps thin on the board just under
the paper.

The Rocks/Bubbles/Marbles/Stones or whatever-are in the trophy room
behind the empty box on the top self. 

Peace and love,

Dharma











From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Sun Dec  5 22:07:57 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:07:57 -0000
Subject: The horror that is Galaxy Quest (rubberhead!Rickman)
In-Reply-To: <001d01c4dae6$abed37c0$3059aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <cp00rt+msna@eGroups.com>


Amanda wrote:
> Interesting. I found Galaxy Quest to be one of the funniest movies 
I've ever
> seen, immediately went out and bought it after I rented it, and 
did not (at
> the time) have much familiarity with Alan Rickman. It wasn't for 
the stars.
> I just loved the movie. It's a superb spoof of a genre, that can 
still stand
> on its own for story and humor.

Yes, I really enjoyed that film, too.

Of course, much of the humour is poking fun at fannish behaviour - 
perhaps I'll revisit it after going to Accio and get really cross at 
it for its irreverence.  But I doubt it somehow.

Since HP actors are embargoed from attending conferences in 
character, there's no chance of a bunch of Death Eaters showing up 
to try to take them out.

David






From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  6 03:44:31 2004
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 03:44:31 -0000
Subject: New Potion on JKR's site (spoiler)
In-Reply-To: <covqr3+6d00@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cp0kiv+jijm@eGroups.com>


S
P
O
I
L
E
R


If you want to work this out for yourself, I think you should stop 
reading now! Alright that is sufficient warning... don't you think?

In order.. 

1.)There is a sprig of something on the corkboard under the first 
drawing of the first clues that she gave us in "extra stuff"

2.) There  are some circle things behind the empty award box on the 
shelf where the fansites are, I think near Tom Riddles award.

3.) There are some broken eggs on the floor next to the rubbish bin.

Happy Hunting!

Laila



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "onnanokata" 
<averyhaze at h...> wrote:
> 
> 
> "golden_faile" wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm totally stumped.... how do you get to the rubbish bin?
> 
> 
> imamommy
> 
> On the right side of the desk, move your mouse around until you 
find
> a Droobles Gum wrapper that moves, then click on it.
> 
> 
> 
> <imamommy at s...>wrote:
> 
> Ok, when you go to the rubbish bin on JKR's site, if you click on
> the pen on the left of the screen it breaks, and the resulting ink
> flow shows a similer potion diagram to the one one the "Extra 
Stuff"
> section (the eraser one).  I can't find any of the symbols; will
> someone help me out, please?
> 
> imamommy
> 
> 
> 
> Kara Botby wrote:
> 
> Well there are bubbles, Im not sure which one its in the key or 
pen or
> what on the main page...The one with the plaques Sirius Harry 
Potter,
> The Lexicon...Stuff like that....Well at the top there is a little 
box
> move it, and there are bubbles...There are also tooth picks. Thats 
in
> one of those too, uhm where there is picture of her and her 
husband,
> there are tooth picks there and I cant remember the last 
one...sorry!
> 
> Dharma replies:
> 
> The three things you need are:
> 
> The Eggshells-which are in the rubbish bin room on the floor to the
> right of the bin.
> 
> The Dog Hairs?-which look like tooth picks or sticks.  They are 
taped
> to the corkboard, if you don't see them right away, try clicking
> around the sheet that had the frist set of potion ingidients on 
it. 
> You'll be able to see the tape that keeps thin on the board just 
under
> the paper.
> 
> The Rocks/Bubbles/Marbles/Stones or whatever-are in the trophy room
> behind the empty box on the top self. 
> 
> Peace and love,
> 
> Dharma






From naama_gat at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  6 15:21:06 2004
From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naamagatus)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:21:06 -0000
Subject: Apropo "horror of" ..
Message-ID: <cp1td2+er48@eGroups.com>


did anyone see Bridget Jones II (Edge of Reason)? 

I liked the first one, but this was beyond bad. It felt like the 
director actively hated the story, the actors (particularly the lead 
actresse), had no idea how to do decent lighting, and was criminally 
lazy in the choice of music. 

Naama, who had thought that Hollywood has reached the utter limit in 
mediocrity, but finds that it now takes a dive into plain bad.






From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  6 19:26:48 2004
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 19:26:48 -0000
Subject: Apropo "horror of" ..
In-Reply-To: <cp1td2+er48@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cp2bpo+vhjt@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" <naama_gat at h...> 
wrote:
did anyone see Bridget Jones II (Edge of Reason)? 
I liked the first one, but this was beyond bad. It felt like the 
director actively hated the story, the actors (particularly the lead 
actresse), had no idea how to do decent lighting, and was criminally 
lazy in the choice of music. 
 
Naama, who had thought that Hollywood has reached the utter limit in  
mediocrity, but finds that it now takes a dive into plain bad.



Alla:

Really? I was debating whether to go see this movie, I guess I won't 
go after all.

I read both books and absolutely loved them. I also saw first movie  
and liked it well enough, but I don't want to see the sequel if it is 
that bad.






From pigzitsacademy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  7 00:08:55 2004
From: pigzitsacademy at yahoo.com (pigzitsacademy)
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:08:55 -0000
Subject: Pigzits RPG
Message-ID: <cp2san+a8rr@eGroups.com>



http://s7.invisionfree.com/pigzits

Have you ever wondered if other wizardry schools existed in England? 
If only the greatest of wizards go to Hogwarts, where do the 
other ??less abled?? wizards go to? Well these individuals get carted 
off to The Pigzits School of Wizardry and Witchcraft

Pigzits, which used to be an insane asylum, was transformed to a 
wizardry school in 1711. We??re a school that is opened to 
the ??unique?? (Yes, even the worthless squibs are allowed to attend). 
Pigzits is based on a similar house system to that of Hogwarts, but 
instead of Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Slytherin and Hufflepuff, Pigzits 
has the House of Pantalone, Pidgebunion, Mamaneshta, and Humpdump.


Feel like joining a creative and original Harry Potter Based RPG? 
Well if so, come join Pigzits Academy. We??re a new RPG that is trying 
to compensate for the problems of regular RPGs. The admins are not 
strict and pretty much allow for your own plots. There is one main 
plot though, but you??re free to be creative and independent. You can 
swear, curse, be gay etc. etc. A key difference in Pigzits, is that 
this RPG not one where everyone strives to be the best wizard, but it 
is one where individuals strive to be character they can be. 
Difference is welcomed and so is comedy.

If this interests you, come join us at

http://s7.invisionfree.com/pigzits

The board just opened yesterday and we already have 25 members. Join 
soon ??










From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  7 03:28:22 2004
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile)
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 03:28:22 -0000
Subject: Apropo "horror of" ..
In-Reply-To: <cp2bpo+vhjt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cp380m+2ntb@eGroups.com>


Haven't seen it. Was going to, now I'll just wait for it to come out 
on DVD if it's as bad as you say... but I am going to go watch Love 
Actually again. This is my second time renting it, I think I'll just 
go buy the movie.*smile* 


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" 
<naama_gat at h...> 
> wrote:
> did anyone see Bridget Jones II (Edge of Reason)? 
> I liked the first one, but this was beyond bad. It felt like the 
> director actively hated the story, the actors (particularly the 
lead 
> actresse), had no idea how to do decent lighting, and was 
criminally 
> lazy in the choice of music. 
>  
> Naama, who had thought that Hollywood has reached the utter limit 
in  
> mediocrity, but finds that it now takes a dive into plain bad.
> 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Really? I was debating whether to go see this movie, I guess I 
won't 
> go after all.
> 
> I read both books and absolutely loved them. I also saw first 
movie  
> and liked it well enough, but I don't want to see the sequel if it 
is 
> that bad.






From redina at silverbloom.net  Tue Dec  7 23:38:00 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:38:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Christmas 'wish' list and cleaning
Message-ID: <1508.4.47.27.203.1102462680.squirrel@4.47.27.203>

I've seen some folks reference their Christmas wishlists (Amazon, etc) and
I reflected on how I've never had one.  Heh, I've talked with a friend
about her Amazon wishlist and I think I referenced a 'joking' wishlist: 1)
JKR send some money to me  2) Daniel Radcliffe divulge how the hell his
skin is doing so well (suspect it's genetics and $$$)

Instead, I've set goals to sell off stuff (could use the money since I'm
'in-between jobs'), clean up the place (stuff needs to go for this to
happen), work on internet tasks, and get another job... This is all I
basically want... That and world peace. :-)

Not to say I don't have other 'wants' (JKR writing out a check for a
million dollars to me would be a definite want ;-)) but I've become
accustomed to acquiring these 'wants' on my own (save up money) and many
just become so... transient after awhile.

I've had some family ask 'what I want' and I realized I wanted nothing
from them... Does kinda sound rude put that way. :-\

Dina






From redina at silverbloom.net  Wed Dec  8 19:59:35 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:59:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Ferret name of Mr. Limo
Message-ID: <1554.4.47.27.203.1102535975.squirrel@4.47.27.203>

I caught this show on Animal Channel (?) and they mentioned the ferret's
name was Mister Limousine because he has a 'long body'.  That's a cute
name. {g}

I'm bad at naming pets.  I've kept a couple of zebra finches for over a
decade--well, one died last week :-( --and I've never named them.

Dina





From redina at silverbloom.net  Thu Dec  9 06:14:41 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 01:14:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: COS 'blooper' of crew caught on tape
Message-ID: <4538.4.47.27.203.1102572881.squirrel@4.47.27.203>

Dude, I have the observational skills of a corpse.

I've watched COS numerous times and completely missed the film crew guy on
his knees during the wizarding duel scene where Snape grabs Draco by the
'scruff':

http://fototime.com/F201FDEF5C8D843/standard.jpg


Dina







From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Thu Dec  9 15:25:42 2004
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:25:42 EST
Subject: Bridget Jones thread ...
Message-ID: <29.681feb78.2ee9c876@aol.com>

Sorry ... I'm behind on a couple of digests, just wanted to add my two cents 
on this topic.

I saw it (Edge of Reason) and enjoyed it.  It has many laugh-out-loud moments 
and the cast is fantastic.  This isn't the kind of movie you can go to 
expecting a sequel like the potter sequels ... don't go with expectations, just go 
for a good laugh and a light story.  Of course taking in all that eye candy 
can't hurt either.  :)  When you over-analyze a movie like Bridget Jones diary, 
you suck all the fun out of it!  

So, I say see it.  

"Luna"


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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Dec  9 15:47:13 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:47:13 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] may leave for a long time soon
In-Reply-To: <cp8itb+bqcp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOOEDDDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[A.J. writes]:
|
| I may learn tomorrow that I must leave the country for many months.
| In that case, no Salem HP convention in full Hufflepuff regalia, and
| a long wait till GOF and OOTP come out on DVD.. .but hopefully, still
| able to get books 6 and 7 if they come out in this lifetime!

[Lee]:
Goodness!  Sounds from that description like you might be leaving the
planet! <Grin>

Seriously, hope the "trip" will bring you something good.  Who knows...you
might find some HP fans where you're going?

Travel safe.

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Dec 10 21:30:44 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:30:44 -0000
Subject: JKR site update
Message-ID: <cpd4i4+4im2@eGroups.com>


She was sick and tired of the Edinburgh festival on the news page.  
(So were we love!)  She's also updated some of the rumours - 
interesting snippets of information, some of them...
I'll leave you all to look
Sarah xx






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 10 21:55:45 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:55:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <cpd4i4+4im2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041210215545.81770.qmail@web53501.mail.yahoo.com>



Sarah <plungy116 at aol.com> wrote:

She was sick and tired of the Edinburgh festival on the news page.  
(So were we love!)  She's also updated some of the rumours - 
interesting snippets of information, some of them...
I'll leave you all to look
Sarah xx





Okay, I have found new things in 4 places - The Daily News, Rumors, FAQ, and Extra Stuff.

Did I find it all or is there some more?

Also, what does everyone think of the new FAQ poll?

moonmyyst



		
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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 11 01:05:57 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:05:57 -0000
Subject: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <20041210215545.81770.qmail@web53501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cpdh5l+m05h@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sarah <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> 
> She was sick and tired of the Edinburgh festival on the news 
page.  
> (So were we love!)  She's also updated some of the rumours - 
> interesting snippets of information, some of them...
> I'll leave you all to look
> Sarah xx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Okay, I have found new things in 4 places - The Daily News, 
Rumors, FAQ, and Extra Stuff.
> 
> Did I find it all or is there some more?
> 
> Also, what does everyone think of the new FAQ poll?
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
*****\(@@)/*****

I love it all! Obviously we want to know the same thing because one 
question is already at 66%! I waited for Peeves to come by the 
locked door to see if anything different would happen but it 
didn't....I was hoping he would do something a bit different for 
Christmas...

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From redina at silverbloom.net  Sat Dec 11 01:49:49 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:49:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: In defense... Re: COS 'blooper' of crew caught on tape
In-Reply-To: <4538.4.47.27.203.1102572882.squirrel@4.47.27.203>
References: <4538.4.47.27.203.1102572882.squirrel@4.47.27.203>
Message-ID: <4660.4.47.27.203.1102729789.squirrel@4.47.27.203>

I said:
> Dude, I have the observational skills of a corpse.

I usually watch the HP movies on cable TV stations--to the point I haven't
even *opened* the POA DVD yet--and HBO/Cinemax shows the fullscreen
versions.  Since COS was on tonight, I flipped to Cinemax and the film
crew guy was cut off.

I think I may have watched the COS widescreen DVD a few times--excluding
fan vid editing with a preview screen smaller than a credit card--and...
I'm going to estimate I've seen the televised fullscreen version over
thirty times.

Dina





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 11 02:23:16 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:23:16 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <cpdh5l+m05h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008901c4df28$5feefc00$0400a8c0@pensive>

The FAW pools are not on the text only part of the site, so I can't access
them.  What is the poll this time?

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: dudemom_2000 [mailto:dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:06 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sarah <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> 
> She was sick and tired of the Edinburgh festival on the news 
page.  
> (So were we love!)  She's also updated some of the rumours - 
> interesting snippets of information, some of them...
> I'll leave you all to look
> Sarah xx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Okay, I have found new things in 4 places - The Daily News, 
Rumors, FAQ, and Extra Stuff.
> 
> Did I find it all or is there some more?
> 
> Also, what does everyone think of the new FAQ poll?
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
*****\(@@)/*****

I love it all! Obviously we want to know the same thing because one 
question is already at 66%! I waited for Peeves to come by the 
locked door to see if anything different would happen but it 
didn't....I was hoping he would do something a bit different for 
Christmas...

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 11 03:07:18 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:07:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <008901c4df28$5feefc00$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <20041211030718.39068.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>



Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:
The FAW pools are not on the text only part of the site, so I can't access
them.  What is the poll this time?

Sherry




1) How many chapters will Harry Potter and the HBP have? (12%)

2) What is the significance of Neville being the other boy who the prophecy might have referred? (66%)

3) Will Ron ever manage to become more than just a good friend with a girl?  (22%)

 

Does anyone else get the feeling she is trying to say something here?

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 11 03:16:18 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:16:18 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <20041211030718.39068.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009201c4df2f$c87786f0$0400a8c0@pensive>

Thanks!  if I could vote, I'd be voting for the question about Neville.
That's the only one that could hold some interesting possibilities.  

Sherry

-----Original Message-----
From: K G [mailto:moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 8:07 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update





Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:
The FAW pools are not on the text only part of the site, so I can't access
them.  What is the poll this time?

Sherry




1) How many chapters will Harry Potter and the HBP have? (12%)

2) What is the significance of Neville being the other boy who the prophecy
might have referred? (66%)

3) Will Ron ever manage to become more than just a good friend with a girl?
(22%)

 

Does anyone else get the feeling she is trying to say something here?

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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 11 06:01:55 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:01:55 -0000
Subject: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <009201c4df2f$c87786f0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cpe2gj+3h8c@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Thanks!  if I could vote, I'd be voting for the question about Neville.
> That's the only one that could hold some interesting possibilities.  
> 
> Sherry

I'll vote for you then, on my other computer. That's not a violation
of FAQ election law, is it? <g>

Annemehr







From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 11 06:35:11 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:35:11 -0000
Subject: UK teen style
Message-ID: <cpe4ev+s52p@eGroups.com>


Ok, I really like the teenage actors in the HP movies, but I really 
can't stand most of their hairdos and some of the clothes they 
where.  I realize that being 26 puts me out of the Realm of Hip, but 
I haven't noticed very many American teens sporting shaggy dog come 
Beatles hair (Rupert Grint, Matthew Lewis, the Phelps Bros.), nor 
side ponytails or parts way over on the side of her head, as Emma 
Watson wears.  I also never seem to like what Emma's wearing, and I 
wish Ruperts mum would tell him to put on at least a real T-shirt, 
and not something that looks like an old undershirt, for premiers.

I don't expect the kids to be totally proper, or elegant, or 
anything.  But if I judged the teenage population of the UK based on 
the cast of HP, I would think these were the standards of dress.

(Devon Murray has his own kind of "rap singer" look, so I'm really 
not sure what to think there.

I do give compliments to the Phelps Bros., who tend to look both cool 
and appropriate at premiers and such.  

So, somebody tell me, is this what the youth of the UK are really 
into?  

imamommy
PS--I also think it's funny how many people in the movies have shaggy 
haircuts--Harry's messed up hair being something of a plot point.






From siskiou at vcem.com  Sat Dec 11 08:14:47 2004
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:14:47 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UK teen style
In-Reply-To: <cpe4ev+s52p@eGroups.com>
References: <cpe4ev+s52p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <602840759.20041211001447@vcem.com>



Hi,

Friday, December 10, 2004, 10:35:11 PM, imamommy at sbcglobal.net wrote:

> I realize that being 26 puts me out of the Realm of Hip, but
> I haven't noticed very many American teens sporting shaggy dog come
> Beatles hair (Rupert Grint, Matthew Lewis, the Phelps Bros.), nor
> side ponytails or parts way over on the side of her head, as Emma
> Watson wears.

Trends don't always start in the US. :)

But I work at a middle school (in Oregon), and almost *all* the boys
have shaggy, longer hair by now, and I see all sorts of
styles on the girls.

Not even to mention the clothes...

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat Dec 11 10:41:39 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:41:39 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UK teen style
References: <cpe4ev+s52p@eGroups.com> <602840759.20041211001447@vcem.com>
Message-ID: <026f01c4df6d$ff7b0c60$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Susan wrote:

<But I work at a middle school (in
Oregon), and almost *all* the boys
have shaggy, longer hair by now, and I
see all sorts of
styles on the girls.

Not even to mention the clothes...>

Granted Oregon is not the staging
ground of fashion (I live here myself
so not insulting the lovely state), but
yes, the fashions from the UK stars,
fashions here in Oregon and else wear
match up.

Of course, fashion is always about
wearing what you like, and not the
trends.  The UK stars seem to be
following this.  They're not Hollywood
cookie cutters that are dressed by
designers who need the stars to boost
their sales.  It's rather refreshing.

Age has a lot to do with it though.
The older actors wear clothes that are
at both elegant and comfortable, while
the younger tend to look as if they're
simply going to a nice party and wear
something cool and fashionable.  As
they get even older, I think that their
styles will change to reflect that.

Although...I do wish Emma would decide
something for her hair that didn't give
me eighties flashbacks.

Saitaina
****
I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 11 14:35:45 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:35:45 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <cpe2gj+3h8c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c4df8e$b3939440$0400a8c0@pensive>

oh thank you!  I would really appreciate that.  Shouldn't be a violation if
the poll isn't accessible to someone using a screen reader on their
computer.  Very cool of you to do that!  smile.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: annemehr [mailto:annemehr at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:02 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Thanks!  if I could vote, I'd be voting for the question about Neville.
> That's the only one that could hold some interesting possibilities.  
> 
> Sherry

I'll vote for you then, on my other computer. That's not a violation
of FAQ election law, is it? <g>

Annemehr







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From plungy116 at aol.com  Sat Dec 11 15:54:15 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:54:15 -0000
Subject: UK teen style
In-Reply-To: <cpe4ev+s52p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpf577+93md@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
wrote:

> I haven't noticed very many American teens sporting shaggy dog come 
> Beatles hair (Rupert Grint, Matthew Lewis, the Phelps Bros.), nor 
> side ponytails or parts way over on the side of her head, as Emma 
> Watson wears.  I also never seem to like what Emma's wearing, and I 
> wish Ruperts mum would tell him to put on at least a real T-shirt, 
> and not something that looks like an old undershirt, for premiers.
 
> 
> So, somebody tell me, is this what the youth of the UK are really 
> into?  


Um...yes.  We are deeply stylish nation at times but teenagers in 
particular seem to have no pride in themselves.  My son is 15 in 
January (so, same age as Daniel)and his dress sense just does not 
exist.  the grungy look is still very in and gives the impression 
that they are just way too cool to bother with having their hair cut 
or repairing holes in garments.  having said that i think Emma, 
Rupert and Daniel are by no means the worst dressed.  Compared to 
many, they are quite smart really.
My Mike wears jeans that are far too big for him (waist width, not 
just baggy).  To me they look ridiculous, but he's happy.  i suppose 
if he saw me 20 years ago in Ra Ra skirts and leg warmers he may have 
laughed too!
I think POA was good in terms of outfits because I didn't notice what 
they were wearing - it was so ordinary and typical of British 
teenagers.  One of the comments on the DVD extras was from (I can't 
remember who), but he said they gave the cast their school uniforms 
and told them to do with them what they would their own uniform.  Now 
most schools here have some kind of uniform, so again it wasn't 
jarring for me.  It was refreshing to see shirts hanging out (as 
Mike's is permenantly), ties of different lengths, scuffed shoes and 
messy hair.
They were easier to relate to as typical teenagers.  I know some 
people have said that POA lost the magic of the 2 earlier films, and 
maybe the clothes thing was part of that.  I have said before I liked 
this film the best.  Yes, the magical element is more subdued, but 
Harry is getting more used to it and accepting his limited knowledge, 
and adapting.  Principally he is an ordinary boy.  He wears clothes, 
he listens to music, he plays sports and supports a team.  He has 
friends, enemies and teachers he considers mentors (and ones whose 
lessons he dreads).  He wants to meet girls, he wants to be cool, he 
wants to do well in his life, but he also wants to avenge the death 
of his parents and rid the world of evil.  How much more typical can 
you get?
Sarah xx






From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Dec 11 18:46:39 2004
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:46:39 -0000
Subject: The horror that is Galaxy Quest (rubberhead!Rickman)
In-Reply-To: <cp00rt+msna@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpffaf+behn@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley" 
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> 
> Amanda wrote:
> > Interesting. I found Galaxy Quest to be one of the funniest 
movies 
> I've ever
> > seen, immediately went out and bought it after I rented it, and 
> did not (at
> > the time) have much familiarity with Alan Rickman. It wasn't for 
> the stars.
> > I just loved the movie. It's a superb spoof of a genre, that can 
> still stand
> > on its own for story and humor.

Yes, I agree - I didn't go expecting to like it particularly, but I 
found it hilarious and actually a bit moving - like the recent 
Incredibles, it serves as both a send-up and an homage to a genre 
(space-quest and super-hero, respectively).

  - CMC






From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Dec 11 19:01:23 2004
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:01:23 -0000
Subject: Apropo "horror of" ..
In-Reply-To: <cp1td2+er48@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpfg63+cjbp@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" <naama_gat at h...> 
wrote:
> 
> did anyone see Bridget Jones II (Edge of Reason)? 
> 
> I liked the first one, but this was beyond bad. It felt like the 
> director actively hated the story, the actors (particularly the 
lead 
> actresse), had no idea how to do decent lighting, and was 
criminally 
> lazy in the choice of music. 
> 
> Naama, who had thought that Hollywood has reached the utter limit 
in 
> mediocrity, but finds that it now takes a dive into plain bad.

I agree 100% - the missus wanted to see it, and now bitterly regrets 
her decision. I liked the first movie, largely on the strength of 
Renee Zellweger, who I've always regarded as an actress of 
exceptional charm and cuteness, even in so-so fare like "Down With 
Love." But yuck! - she looked downright repulsive in BJ-TEOR  - and 
it wasn't just the weight, since I thought she looked great in BJ-I. 
The opening scene of the film flings our heroine into a pen of pig 
manure, and it's all downhill from there.

To end on a positive note, I'll recommend Sideways (great acting & 
story) and Finding Neverland, somewhat inconsistent, but occasionally 
magic  - and Johnny Depp gets to pirate again!

   - CMC






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 11 19:38:01 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:38:01 -0000
Subject: UK teen style
In-Reply-To: <cpf577+93md@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpfiap+kksc@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I haven't noticed very many American teens sporting shaggy dog 
come 
> > Beatles hair (Rupert Grint, Matthew Lewis, the Phelps Bros.), nor 
> > side ponytails or parts way over on the side of her head, as Emma 
> > Watson wears.  I also never seem to like what Emma's wearing, and 
I 
> > wish Ruperts mum would tell him to put on at least a real T-
shirt, 
> > and not something that looks like an old undershirt, for premiers.
>  
> > 
> > So, somebody tell me, is this what the youth of the UK are really 
> > into?  
> 
> 
> Um...yes.  We are deeply stylish nation at times but teenagers in 
> particular seem to have no pride in themselves.  My son is 15 in 
> January (so, same age as Daniel)and his dress sense just does not 
> exist.  the grungy look is still very in and gives the impression 
> that they are just way too cool to bother with having their hair 
cut 
> or repairing holes in garments.  having said that i think Emma, 
> Rupert and Daniel are by no means the worst dressed.  Compared to 
> many, they are quite smart really.
> My Mike wears jeans that are far too big for him (waist width, not 
> just baggy).  To me they look ridiculous, but he's happy.  i 
suppose 
> if he saw me 20 years ago in Ra Ra skirts and leg warmers he may 
have 
> laughed too!
> I think POA was good in terms of outfits because I didn't notice 
what 
> they were wearing - it was so ordinary and typical of British 
> teenagers.  One of the comments on the DVD extras was from (I can't 
> remember who), but he said they gave the cast their school uniforms 
> and told them to do with them what they would their own uniform.  
Now 
> most schools here have some kind of uniform, so again it wasn't 
> jarring for me.  It was refreshing to see shirts hanging out (as 
> Mike's is permenantly), ties of different lengths, scuffed shoes 
and 
> messy hair.
> They were easier to relate to as typical teenagers.  I know some 
> people have said that POA lost the magic of the 2 earlier films, 
and 
> maybe the clothes thing was part of that.  I have said before I 
liked 
> this film the best.  Yes, the magical element is more subdued, but 
> Harry is getting more used to it and accepting his limited 
knowledge, 
> and adapting.  Principally he is an ordinary boy.  He wears 
clothes, 
> he listens to music, he plays sports and supports a team.  He has 
> friends, enemies and teachers he considers mentors (and ones whose 
> lessons he dreads).  He wants to meet girls, he wants to be cool, 
he 
> wants to do well in his life, but he also wants to avenge the death 
> of his parents and rid the world of evil.  How much more typical 
can 
> you get?
> Sarah xx

imamommy:

I liked the movie costumes, it's more what the kids wear out of the 
movies that bugs me.  Somebody commented that it's refreshing they 
don't look like Hollywood cookie cutters, and there is truth in that, 
but sometimes it looks as if no one advised them at all.  

And a big "I Agree" to whomever posted that Emma's hair gives them 
eighties flashbacks!

imamommy
who wonders if Rupert's mother didn't say something like, "But it's 
the premier, honey, don't you want to wear a shirt?" (not theat she 
expects teenagers to listen to their mothers)






From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Sat Dec 11 20:41:42 2004
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:41:42 EST
Subject: UK style
Message-ID: <fa.83453c8.2eecb586@aol.com>

Sarah,
I enjoyed your thoughts on teens in the UK, their dress style ) lack thereof) 
and where their heads are these days.  :)  Especially since you are the 
mother of one you have first hand knowledge!
Thanks for sharing.


> "Um...yes.  We are deeply stylish nation at times but teenagers in 
> particular seem to have no pride in themselves.  My son is 15 in 
> January (so, same age as Daniel)and his dress sense just does not 
> exist.  the grungy look is still very in and gives the impression 
> that they are just way too cool to bother with having their hair cut 
> or repairing holes in garments.  having said that i think Emma, 
> Rupert and Daniel are by no means the worst dressed.  Compared to 
> many, they are quite smart really.
> My Mike wears jeans that are far too big for him (waist width, not 
> just baggy).  To me they look ridiculous, but he's happy.  i suppose 
> if he saw me 20 years ago in Ra Ra skirts and leg warmers he may have 
> laughed too!
> I think POA was good in terms of outfits because I didn't notice what 
> they were wearing - it was so ordinary and typical of British 
> teenagers.  One of the comments on the DVD extras was from (I can't 
> remember who), but he said they gave the cast their school uniforms 
> and told them to do with them what they would their own uniform.  Now 
> most schools here have some kind of uniform, so again it wasn't 
> jarring for me.  It was refreshing to see shirts hanging out (as 
> Mike's is permenantly), ties of different lengths, scuffed shoes and 
> messy hair.
> They were easier to relate to as typical teenagers.  I know some 
> people have said that POA lost the magic of the 2 earlier films, and 
> maybe the clothes thing was part of that.  I have said before I liked 
> this film the best.  Yes, the magical element is more subdued, but 
> Harry is getting more used to it and accepting his limited knowledge, 
> and adapting.  Principally he is an ordinary boy.  He wears clothes, 
> he listens to music, he plays sports and supports a team.  He has 
> friends, enemies and teachers he considers mentors (and ones whose 
> lessons he dreads).  He wants to meet girls, he wants to be cool, he 
> wants to do well in his life, but he also wants to avenge the death 
> of his parents and rid the world of evil.  How much more typical can 
> you get?
> Sarah xx"
> 



"Luna"

---------------------
"... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic.  I 
love Luna."
J.K. Rowling
Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004
(Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.)


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From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 02:02:46 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:02:46 -0000
Subject: may leave for a long time soon
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOOEDDDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <cpg8s6+cr7u@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:

> Seriously, hope the "trip" will bring you something good.  Who 
knows...you
> might find some HP fans where you're going?
> 
> Travel safe.


Thanks.  If I can get the paperbacks along, maybe I'll MAKE some fans 
if there aren't any, by lending!  >;-)






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 02:17:51 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:17:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: may leave for a long time soon
In-Reply-To: <cpg8s6+cr7u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041212021751.7125.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com>



"A.J." <ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:

> Seriously, hope the "trip" will bring you something good.  Who 
knows...you
> might find some HP fans where you're going?
> 
> Travel safe.


Thanks.  If I can get the paperbacks along, maybe I'll MAKE some fans 
if there aren't any, by lending!  >;-)

 

forget lending - the best time that we have are when we read the books out loud to each other - I even do it long distance with my daughter (who is 22 and living the another time zone!!)  great way to make friends!!  good luck and have a lot of fun.  view this as a wonderful experience, reguardless of the reasons and where you end up at, and when you get back, you can tell us all kinds of stories and make us all envious of your adventures!!

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From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 03:57:40 2004
From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:57:40 -0000
Subject: Apropo "horror of" ..
In-Reply-To: <cpfg63+cjbp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpgfjk+kol8@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" 
<coriolan at w...> wrote:
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "naamagatus" 
<naama_gat at h...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > did anyone see Bridget Jones II (Edge of Reason)? 
> > 
 I liked the first movie, largely on the strength of 
> Renee Zellweger, who I've always regarded as an actress of 
> exceptional charm and cuteness, even in so-so fare like "Down With 
> Love." But yuck! - she looked downright repulsive in BJ-TEOR  - and 
> it wasn't just the weight, since I thought she looked great in BJ-
> 
>    - CMC

I got shanghaied into this picture on the strngth of Renee 
Zellweger's performance in "Chicago".  What a surprise!  She had done 
a DeNiro, a la "Raging Bull".    Totlly apart from her bulk, I found 
her clingingness and insecurity a complete turnoff, and it destroyed 
any believability in Colin Firth's attraction to her, as far as I was 
concerned.

I did like that they kept Hugh Grant an unreconstructed bastard, with 
no redemption at the end-- sort of like Draco Malfoy :-)

Haggridd






From seuferer at netins.net  Sun Dec 12 04:46:42 2004
From: seuferer at netins.net (shanti_50130)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:46:42 -0000
Subject: A Harry Potter RPG run by/geared toward Grownups
Message-ID: <cpgifi+agqi@eGroups.com>


I've had to "take the plunge" in regards to my Harry Potter
role-playing hobby. I enjoy it tremendously--sometimes even more
than I like reading/writing fanfiction. It's my way of `exercising
my brain' when I'm feeling sort of brain-mushy from dealing with my
great-but-tiring kids all day.

The universal flaw I have found in my search for a good Harry Potter
role-playing game is that they are almost all own/run/administrated
by college-aged young-adults or younger. These "kids" (to me as a
later 30-something) are all very creative and enthusiastic, but also
very transient.

I don't mean that as an insult! We all know that the college-years
are some of the most exciting but transient times in our lives.
There are frequent major life-changes going on. Classes and finals
and graduations and possible marriages or new jobs and moving and
etc., etc., etc.,

At any rate, I've decided that rather than sit and complain about
this (MUCH) it is time for me to give it a go myself.
Fortunately, I found two other like-minded friends willing to help
me. We have three administrators ranging in age from 27 to 37, and
we aren't going anywhere! It is also a paid site, paid yearly, from
a reliable company, so none of this down-time or information loss
because of payment issues stuff that has happened on sites I've been
on before.

So
 if role-playing interests you AT ALL, Please come check out our
site:

http://www.hauntedchambers.net/

To the best of my knowledge, this one of the few role-playing games
run by adults with a good focus on the adult and wider-world
settings in the Harry Potter Universe without being a thinly
veiled "smut" site. (Not that we have a problem with smut, but there
are many other ways to stretch the imagination as well!) We do have
a Hogwarts, of course, and many student characters as well as
teenaged players. However, the maturity level of the board and the
role-playing skill is high without being intimidating.

We actively welcome and encourage adult characters, canon or
original, with 'real lives' in the world outside of Hogwarts. It's a
fun way to explore what "average" people might do in the wizarding
world. We have a fairly straight-forward screening process that
ensures we get quality players with a good understanding of canon.

We have lots of open canon characters. Right now we're especially
looking to fill:

Hermione Granger (JKR has just pointed out to us that with her
birthday in September, she nearly a year older than Harry?she will
be of `legal' age early into their 6th year?that could be VERY fun
to play with! Hermione will be screened very rigorously, though, so
be aware.)
Narcissa Malfoy
Kingsley Shacklebolt
Bill, Percy, Charlie and Ginny Weasley
Argus Filch
Rubeus Hagrid
Madam Hooch
Cornelius Fudge
Delores Umbridge
Students, canon or Original
Order of the Phoenix members, canon or Original
Death Eaters, canon or Original

We're looking for adult characters to `flesh out' the wizarding
world. Hospital employees, Ministry employees, any creative ideas
of shopkeepers, `every day' sorts of folks. Whether you decide your
character supports the Order or Voldemort, we are good about finding
ways to "work in" your character into existing plots.

I'm allowing people who want to come from the game that just `died'
to transfer their own character's interactions/history into the new
game so you will see some `transfer backstory' threads. But we have
currently done nothing in the way of plot advancement, and won't be
until after the Holidays, though the game is "open". This is a
great time to `come on board' and just mess about and interact with
the other characters, develop relationships and things, to `get your
feet wet' gradually.

I hope you'll come and check us out, and maybe play with us.

Lisa/aka Shanti






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 12 05:02:06 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 12 Dec 2004 05:02:06 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1102827726.22.29104.m8@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 12, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 12 16:02:16 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 12 Dec 2004 16:02:16 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1102867336.26.27420.m1@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 12, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From desiivy at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 19:50:52 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:50:52 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
Message-ID: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>


Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
stuffer. 
Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
your kids? 

I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to load 
them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
 So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy 







From mkeller01 at alltel.net  Sun Dec 12 20:02:53 2004
From: mkeller01 at alltel.net (jksunflower2002)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:02:53 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpi85d+ml2h@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for 
stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
> 
> I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to 
load 
> them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
>  So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy


Well, off the top of my head; card games, bookmarks, bubblebath, 
Harry Potter Keychains ;-).

Toad 






From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sun Dec 12 20:11:19 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:11:19 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Christmas Stockings
References: <cpi85d+ml2h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c4e086$bfc05930$69206bd5@kathryn>

My parents used to always put an orange (and occasionally a net of nuts) in
mine as they're somewhat traditional (uh the presents not my parents - that
sentence needs fixing but I'm not quite sure how).

I'd get lots of cool stuff as well, she hastens to add - actually it was
usually a satsuma because I am addicted to them.

K





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec 12 20:13:46 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:13:46 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpi8pr+lork@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
> 
> I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to load 
> them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
>  So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy

I always give toothbrushes, chapstick, personal care items, etc.  And 
an orange, because I like to share any of the variations of the story 
of the Christmas orange.  Bookmarks, if your kids are old enough.  
Juice boxes, granola bars, raisen boxes if you want healthy 
alternative snacks.  

imamommy
who has as much fun with the stockings as the rest of the presents.






From penmouse756 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 20:24:10 2004
From: penmouse756 at yahoo.com (penmouse756)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:24:10 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpi9da+egvp@eGroups.com>


I always got an orange in the toe of my stocking. That came from my 
parents who always got one too. It was a big deal for them because 
it was pretty well the only time they ever got one. My mum always 
found the neatest things - little games, jewelry, tiny dolls.
I would suggest going to a dollar store, if you have them where you 
are. They have lots of great stuff and the price is right too! It is 
very easy to spend a fortune on filling a stocking.
I don't know how old your kids are but here are some suggestions:
barrettes and ponytail holders, combs, brushes, fancy pens, pencils 
or crayons,little notebooks,a diary, gum,chapstick, travel-size 
toiletries (hand cream, shampoo, etc.), puzzles, toy cars, Beanie-
Babies would be cute to stick in the top of the stocking, yoyos, a 
funny or cute pair of socks,and of course, anything Harry Potter! 
Oh, and don't forget the orange!
Jess


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for 
stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 







From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 20:45:19 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:45:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041212204520.44826.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>



Ivy <desiivy at yahoo.com> wrote:

Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
stuffer. 
Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
your kids? 

I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to load 
them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy 





my 19 year old son recently told me that the best thing he ever got in his stocking were the little army men that you can buy at the dollar store.  they are $1.00 for a whole bag full and he would stretch them out all over the living room on christmas morning.  he asked for some this year and I am going to try and find him some!!

 

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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 21:11:50 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:11:50 -0000
Subject: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <001c01c4df8e$b3939440$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cpic6m+3h7q@eGroups.com>


Should've posted earlier, but anyway, I voted for you this morning. 
The poll was running 66% for our Neville question (which I voted for,
too), 11% for how many chapters, and 22% for Ron.  Going by past
experience, the numbers shouldn't change much beyond a percentage
point or two.

Annemehr


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> oh thank you!  I would really appreciate that.  Shouldn't be a
violation if
> the poll isn't accessible to someone using a screen reader on their
> computer.  Very cool of you to do that!  smile.
> 
> Sherry
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: annemehr [mailto:annemehr at y...] 
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:02 PM
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
> <sherriola at e...> wrote:
> > Thanks!  if I could vote, I'd be voting for the question about
Neville.
> > That's the only one that could hold some interesting possibilities.  
> > 
> > Sherry
> 
> I'll vote for you then, on my other computer. That's not a violation
> of FAQ election law, is it? <g>
> 
> Annemehr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From drjuliehoward at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 12 23:35:13 2004
From: drjuliehoward at yahoo.com (fanofminerva)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:35:13 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpikjh+t7n5@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for 
stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
> 
> I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to 
load 
> them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
>  So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy

My 4-year-old son loves flashlights, so he gets different kinds of 
flashlights in his stocking.  I also put mico-machines, little 
sunglasses, and some candy/fruit snacks.  At this age, Santa brings 
the stocking presents and Dad and Mom bring the other gifts.  It's 
loads of fun.








From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Dec 13 00:55:33 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:55:33 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpipa5+94if@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 

This is not the answer you want, but the thing that I was ever
happiest to find in my Xmas stocking was money -- in those days, a $1
bill was Big Money: it could buy ten candy bars or two paperback books. 

I would have been even happier to find a kitten of my own: my family
always had cats, but they were adults and they loved my mother best
(perhaps because she fed them, or maybe because she wasn't as loud and
active as us kids), so I wanted a kitten Of My Own, but my mother said
we already had enough cats. While 'enough cats' is something like an
oxymoron, a kitten would not have stayed posed prettily in the
stocking like a holiday card photo. 






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Dec 13 04:30:15 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:30:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCEFMDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Well, I have given my husband some VHS movies in a stocking once. :-)

When I was a kid, stockings weren't much part of our traditions.  We did
presents and these plates of chocolates and an orange and an apple and some
nuts...Buntentella (SP?)

I think  things like Blockbuster Gift Card or something on that order would
be nice.  Perhaps some certificates for their fave fast-food place or
something.

Another thing, depending on the age of the kids, sometimes there are little
comic books or drawing books that are nice, or those little pocket
calendar/planners.

Now, I haven't caught up on all the messages, so some of these may have
already been suggested...Sorry! :-)

Oh...yeah...little puzzles are nice, I think, or a special Christmas
ornament just for them...like an ornament with their photo, etc.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Dec 13 06:02:48 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:02:48 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
In-Reply-To: <cpic6m+3h7q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c4e0d9$5fe5fe90$0400a8c0@pensive>

Thank you very much.  I'm glad to have my vote in there.  I hope someday
they will put the polls on the text only part of the site.  everything else
is there, except all the cute games and the polls.  Now, if she'll just
answer the poll question.  Thanks again.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: annemehr [mailto:annemehr at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:12 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update




Should've posted earlier, but anyway, I voted for you this morning. 
The poll was running 66% for our Neville question (which I voted for,
too), 11% for how many chapters, and 22% for Ron.  Going by past
experience, the numbers shouldn't change much beyond a percentage
point or two.

Annemehr


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> oh thank you!  I would really appreciate that.  Shouldn't be a
violation if
> the poll isn't accessible to someone using a screen reader on their
> computer.  Very cool of you to do that!  smile.
> 
> Sherry
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: annemehr [mailto:annemehr at y...] 
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:02 PM
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR site update
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
> <sherriola at e...> wrote:
> > Thanks!  if I could vote, I'd be voting for the question about
Neville.
> > That's the only one that could hold some interesting possibilities.  
> > 
> > Sherry
> 
> I'll vote for you then, on my other computer. That's not a violation
> of FAQ election law, is it? <g>
> 
> Annemehr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Mon Dec 13 16:18:02 2004
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:18:02 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpkfbq+i4nu@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
> 
> I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to load 
> them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
>  So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy


My granddaughters seem to like little things that have their names on 
them, so whenever I see a rack of personalized items, I grab 
an "Amanda" and a "Megan." They've had pencils, pens, rulers, 
necklaces, key chains, zipper pulls, notepads, ornaments, gift wrap, 
etc. This year they are getting little pink pocket calculators with 
their names on. The grandson, who is 13, is way too cool for all 
this, but should I find something for "Richard" that wouldn't 
compromise his coolness, it will find its way into his stocking. 
Happy shopping!
MsTattersall







From spin01 at aol.com  Mon Dec 13 17:00:38 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:00:38 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpkhrm+apbp@eGroups.com>


Each year my kids each get a food item.  Not candy but a food thing 
they like.  The oldest daughter loves marachino cherrys.  not sure i 
spelled that right lol.  The oldest son loves pepperoni so he gets a 
package of that.  middle son loves black olives so he gets that and 
the youngest son loves gingerbread so he usually gets a cookie of 
some sort.  the older ones get bent out of shape if those things are 
not in the stockings.  they start talking about them in mid 
november.  and we always have the remember the year SANTA forgot the 
olives etc.  so we never forget them now. 
sherry

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ivy" <desiivy at y...> wrote:
> 
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
> 
> I am looking for different idea's for my kids? I don't want to load 
> them up with sweets. But I want to give them things they like. 
>  So please reply everyone!!! Thanks, Ivy






From swartell at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 13 17:33:13 2004
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:33:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpkhrm+apbp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041213173313.59619.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>


Lots of good suggestions so far.  Some that I haven't
seen are film, batteries (for all those battery-eating
devices), disposable camera and pocket-sized album to
put the photos in.  Tools of the trade, or sport or
whatever - golf tees or balls, mousepad, screen-wipes,
fancy pens and pencils, streamers for their bike
hanlde bars (if they are of an age to appreciate
that), a tire patch kit if they are older, gloves,
stocking caps if they are into outdoor winter sports
(if they are younger, stuff with their favorite
cartoon character can be a hit.)

The old standby - coupons good for a trip to the
movies or the zoo or the art museum or a concert -
basically promisory notes that say you will do
something they want to do.  My son (still, at 18)
loves to play board games with us, and regards it as a
special treat if we all get together and make time to
play one of his favorites.

Ornaments on a theme they like - one or two a year,
given with the understanding that these are THEIR
ornaments.  They get to hang them up, they will get to
keep them when the are all grown up...

I love stockings, can you tell?

Sue


		
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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 14 03:19:10 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:19:10 -0000
Subject: Books about Harry Potter
Message-ID: <cplm3e+9l11@eGroups.com>


I was at Borders today and saw a book entitled "Harry Potter and 
Philosophy (If Aristotle ran Hogwarts) edited by David Bagget and 
Shawn E. Klein.  I was wondering if anyone out there had read it (or 
written it!) and if you thought it was any good.  Also, are there any 
other books *about* the Harry Potter series that deserve a good read 
(other than those by Galadriel Waters).  Thanks!

imamommy






From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 03:37:57 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:37:57 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi85d+ml2h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpln6m+vkdr@eGroups.com>


> Well, off the top of my head; card games, bookmarks, bubble bath, 
> Harry Potter Key chains ;-).
> 
> Toad

 I like the Bubble bath!! My 6y. and 4 year old love bubble baths.  

Unfortunately, the key chain would be lost on my kids as now they 
are on to a different thing. I am the only one still interested in 
Harry Potter. Now instead of playing Quidditch on the trampoline 
they are playing Yu-GI-Oh Duel monsters. 

    Thanks, ~Ivy~






From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 03:51:05 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:51:05 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4e086$bfc05930$69206bd5@kathryn>
Message-ID: <cplnv9+5oll@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" 
<kcawte at n...> wrote:
> My parents used to always put an orange (and occasionally a net of 
nuts) in
> mine as they're somewhat traditional (uh the presents not my 
parents - that
> sentence needs fixing but I'm not quite sure how).
> 
> I'd get lots of cool stuff as well, she hastens to add - actually 
it was
> usually a satsuma because I am addicted to them.
> 
> K

 For some reason when ever I think of stockings I think of an Orange 
and nuts *shrugs* not sure why I never got either. 
  Thanks, ~Ivy~






From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 03:59:07 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:59:07 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi8pr+lork@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cploeb+c7qn@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
wrote:

> 
> I always give toothbrushes, chapstick, personal care items, etc.  
And 
> an orange, because I like to share any of the variations of the 
story 
> of the Christmas orange.  Bookmarks, if your kids are old enough.  
> Juice boxes, granola bars, raisen boxes if you want healthy 
> alternative snacks.  
> 
> imamommy
> who has as much fun with the stockings as the rest of the presents.

 The story of the Christmas Orange, interesting never heard of it!! 
Care to share it? 
 Thanks ~Ivy~






From Erthena at aol.com  Tue Dec 14 04:58:46 2004
From: Erthena at aol.com (werebearloony)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:58:46 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi7es+jhaj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cplru6+6uuh@eGroups.com>


> Ivy:
> Silly Question but I want to know what are some idea's for stocking 
> stuffer. 
> Can you please tell me what you got as a child or what you give to 
> your kids? 
loony:
I haven't seen carabineers yet, the metal clips rock climbers use to 
attach the ropes to the harness.  They're my favorite stocking gift.  
Every year we all seem to get them and in the end I have my sisters' 
as well, they're so useful. Also jewelry is good for girls, earring 
holders are good for girls with pierced ears (they are mostly 
decorated metal with tons of holes for all the earrings, stops all 
earring losing).  For younger girls, Doll Clothes (I have made it a 
small mission to clothe the naked Barbies of the world).  I don't 
have brothers but I think the army men and matchbox cars are good 
ideas.  I always wanted them and never got any :-(.  Wallets are good 
for both genders, with real or play money inside.  It's good for 
younger kids to play with and older kids can keep better track of 
spending money.  Also littler purses for girls can never go amiss 
(you can never have too many shoes or purses).    We usually get a 
beanie baby, carabineer, jewelry, makeup, pens and pencils in our 
stocking (we're a bit older though).
~~loony







From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 05:56:56 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:56:56 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpi9da+egvp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cplvb8+7r02@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "penmouse756" 
<penmouse756 at y...> wrote:
> 
> I always got an orange in the toe of my stocking. That came from 
my 
> parents who always got one too. It was a big deal for them because 
> it was pretty well the only time they ever got one. My mum always 
> found the neatest things - little games, jewelry, tiny dolls.
> I would suggest going to a dollar store, if you have them where 
you 
> are. They have lots of great stuff and the price is right too! It 
is 
> very easy to spend a fortune on filling a stocking.
> I don't know how old your kids are but here are some suggestions:
> barrettes and ponytail holders, combs, brushes, fancy pens, 
pencils 
> or crayons,little notebooks,a diary, gum,chapstick, travel-size 
> toiletries (hand cream, shampoo, etc.), puzzles, toy cars, Beanie-
> Babies would be cute to stick in the top of the stocking, yoyos, a 
> funny or cute pair of socks,and of course, anything Harry Potter! 
> Oh, and don't forget the orange!
> Jess

 The Dollar store is a wonderful idea, As luck would have it, one 
just opened in my small town a few weeks ago. (Yay, were big enough 
for a "Dollar Tree" Sorry I live in the very rural area in the U.S. 
state Oregon.)

 So of course I had to checked it out after it opened and I remember 
there being lots of small items there. Tons & tons age appropriate 
too! Which is good, I got 4 to buy for 12-4y. I like the YoYo's and 
the funny socks.
   
  Thanks ~Ivy~






From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 06:34:35 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:34:35 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <20041212204520.44826.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cpm1hr+u4a5@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> 
wrote:  
> my 19 year old son recently told me that the best thing he ever 
got in his stocking were the little army men that you can buy at the 
dollar store.  they are $1.00 for a whole bag full and he would 
stretch them out all over the living room on Christmas morning.  he 
asked for some this year and I am going to try and find him some!!
> 
>  
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
Hey, yeah I remember seeing a huge bag of those the other day. 
That's a neat little story. That's what I want to make their 
Christmas's be something they will always remember. To be honest I 
could careless if I get one present under the tree as long as I am 
able to give my kids a good Christmas. I can't think of a better 
present then seeing their faces light up and be so happy over the 
gifts I have given them. 
  It's really sweet of you to do that for your son, 19 or not I'm 
sure he'll love them. 
  Thanks, ~Ivy~






From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 06:51:36 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:51:36 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpikjh+t7n5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpm2ho+cq17@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "fanofminerva" 
<drjuliehoward at y...> wrote:
> 
> My 4-year-old son loves flashlights, so he gets different kinds of 
> flashlights in his stocking.  I also put mico-machines, little 
> sunglasses, and some candy/fruit snacks.  At this age, Santa 
brings 
> the stocking presents and Dad and Mom bring the other gifts.  It's 
> loads of fun.


I got a 4 daughter & 6 son, who just love to run around the house 
turning off the lights, and playing with the flashlight. I actually 
found this preschool hippo shaped one at Target, while doing some 
Christmas shopping, I had to get it. Maybe this way I won't have to 
hunt mine down. 
  I always tell the kids that Santa fills their stockings. My 9 son 
& 12 daughter don't buy it anymore but, they don't spoil it for the 
younger ones. We always make chocolate chip cookies and leave them 
out for Santa with a glass of milk. I used to do the same as a kid. 
So, I just passed it along to my kids. 
   Thanks, ~Ivy~






From punkieshazam at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 07:05:07 2004
From: punkieshazam at yahoo.com (punkieshazam)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:05:07 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <cpkfbq+i4nu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpm3b3+js9q@eGroups.com>


An orange in the toe is a must. This is a tradition in my family that 
is almost a hundred years old. Unshelled nuts, too. Anything from 
Santa was in the stocking or under the tree unwrapped. The best 
things came from Santa. One year, when I still believed, I got a doll 
bed with a new doll tucked under the covers. In the stocking were the 
doll's clothes--3 or 4 changes. My Dad made the bed and Mom made the 
covers and clothes. Also socks. Never underwear, it was usually 
wrapped and from my parents. I put socks in my kid's stockings, too. 
They complained about them so much that one year when they were in 
their teens, I left them out. Boy! That was not acceptable. I still 
give them socks and the grandchildren, too. Only now I look for 
unusual socks like the ones with individual toes.

Dollar stores are good. They just weren't invented soon enough for 
*Santa* to give a lot of loot to my children.

Hope all your holidays are bright and cheerful and your loved ones 
are not too insufferable.

Punkie







From desiivy at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 07:17:20 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (Ivy)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:17:20 -0000
Subject: Christmas Stockings
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCEFMDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <cpm420+nm95@eGroups.com>


 I always give them gift cards, the older 2 got them from Suncoast, 
a music/video store at the mall. The younger 2 from Target. 
  Thanks, ~Ivy~




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is 
The Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> Well, I have given my husband some VHS movies in a stocking 
once. :-)
> 
> When I was a kid, stockings weren't much part of our traditions.  
We did
> presents and these plates of chocolates and an orange and an apple 
and some
> nuts...Buntentella (SP?)
> 
> I think  things like Blockbuster Gift Card or something on that 
order would
> be nice.  Perhaps some certificates for their fave fast-food place 
or
> something.
> 
> Another thing, depending on the age of the kids, sometimes there 
are little
> comic books or drawing books that are nice, or those little pocket
> calendar/planners.
> 
> Now, I haven't caught up on all the messages, so some of these may 
have
> already been suggested...Sorry! :-)
> 
> Oh...yeah...little puzzles are nice, I think, or a special 
Christmas
> ornament just for them...like an ornament with their photo, etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.






From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 14 22:09:52 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:09:52 -0000
Subject: Books about Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <cplm3e+9l11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cpnobg+a101@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
wrote:
> Also, are there any 
> other books *about* the Harry Potter series that deserve a good 
read 
> (other than those by Galadriel Waters). 

Yes.  Check out _The Hidden Key to Harry Potter_ by John Granger.  
He's working on _The English Major's Guide to Harry Potter_ right 
now.  Some of his first book's thesis are repeated in his second 
book, _Finding God in Harry Potter_, which came out after OOTP. 
_Hidden Key_ went to press before Book 4, but it has tons of 
references about the alchemy, imagery, patterns, mythology, classics, 
and more that JKR has put into the septology.

Now, I must go!

A.






From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 15 03:51:24 2004
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:51:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Books about Harry Potter - HP Bibliography
Message-ID: <20041215035124.54643.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com>

imamommy:
> Also, are there any other books *about* the Harry Potter
> series that deserve a good read (other than those by
> Galadriel Waters).  Thanks!

About two months ago on the Main list, post#115792 
( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/115792 )
describes a "Harry Potter Bibliography" at

http://www.eulenfeder.de/hpliteratur.html

Perhaps you will find something of interest to you there.  
It's quite a list - I have yet to find a publication that 
is not already listed there though I must admit I haven't 
been trying all that hard.  <g>  Hmm...if you have seen a 
bibliography for HP that's this one's equal or better, I 
hope you'll share!

Petra
a
n  :)


		
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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 15 04:18:35 2004
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:18:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Books about Harry Potter - HP Bibliography, text only version
Message-ID: <20041215041835.17054.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com>

Petra:
> About two months ago on the Main list, post#115792 
> ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/115792 )
> describes a "Harry Potter Bibliography" at
> 
> http://www.eulenfeder.de/hpliteratur.html

Oops, forgot to include the URL for the text only version:

http://www.eulenfeder.de/hpliteratur.txt

Sorry about that.  <blush>

Petra
a
n  :)


		
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From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Wed Dec 15 07:31:39 2004
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (ms_tamany)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:31:39 -0000
Subject: Attention Brazilians!
Message-ID: <cpop8r+nl3u@eGroups.com>


No, this is not spam.  I'm an actual member of the HJ4GU-OT group, 
looking for someone -- anyone -- who lives in Brazil.  Please 
contact me off-list, at ms-tamany at rcn.com.  There's $5 US in it for 
the first one to email me.

Thanks!

Tammy
ms-tamany at rcn.com






From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Wed Dec 15 14:15:51 2004
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:15:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Attention Brazilians!
In-Reply-To: <cpop8r+nl3u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1CeZwd-0006z8-00@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net>

Whoops!  Remind me not to post a message at 4:00am -- I didn't mean to call
this the HJ4GU Off Topic list.  I must've just had Hugh Jackman on my mind
as well as Harry Potter.  But I do still need someone from Brazil to contact
me.  Thanks!
 
 
***
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ms-tamany at rcn.com
 
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From: ms_tamany [mailto:ms-tamany at rcn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 2:32 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Attention Brazilians!



No, this is not spam.  I'm an actual member of the HJ4GU-OT group, 
looking for someone -- anyone -- who lives in Brazil.  Please 
contact me off-list, at ms-tamany at rcn.com.  There's $5 US in it for 
the first one to email me.

Thanks!

Tammy
ms-tamany at rcn.com






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From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Wed Dec 15 15:47:53 2004
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:47:53 EST
Subject: Warner Bros' tour
Message-ID: <156.466d4494.2ef1b6a9@aol.com>

Hi Everyone,

I met a friend at Warner Bros. studio yesterday for a tour and had to write 
and tell you a bit about the HP related things.? It's a 2.5 hour studio tour 
that starts with a walk through the WB museum.? Well, the ENTIRE second floor 
is? Harry Potter memoriabilia!? You walk up the stairs to it and pass under a 
"privet drive" sign that has an owl on? it, then at the top of the stairs you 
are greeted by a HUGE Hagrid costume (complete with bundled baby in a sling) ... 
the motorcycle is there, a signed first edition of all five books is encased 
on display, a full sized 'grim', trelawney's costume and crystal ball, 
Lockharts costume and books, Ron, Hermoine and Harry's costumes from POA, Harry and 
Quirrels costume from SS (boy has Dan grown!) standing within the frame from 
the mirror of erised, the griffindor sword, Snape's "grandmother" costume from 
the boggart scene in POA, a full size dementor costume, Molly's clock 
(brilliant!), Molly and Arthur costumes, Harry's quidditch costume from POA, a 
quidditch "kit" (bludgers, snitch, etc), the fireplace from SS with letters flying out 
of it, a stool and sorting hat (I sat on it and got sorted!) and the thing 
that REALLY creeped me out, laying in the back full size on a table was the 
petrified hermoine from COS holding the mirror in one hand.? The page from the 
book with the word "pipes" was displayed encased next to it.?? 

I'm sure I'll think of more, but have to get my son to school right now.? If 
you live in the LA area, go check this out.? The tour is $35, but it's long, 
indepth and the HP stuff is worth every penny.? Most of the items were not 
encased ... you could walk right up to it, but not touch.? And no camera's were 
allowed.? :(? I was bummed about that.? 

More later ..........

"Luna"



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From redina at silverbloom.net  Wed Dec 15 19:44:57 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:44:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 'Petri Dish' Rat Brain Flies Jet
Message-ID: <1258.4.47.27.199.1103139897.squirrel@4.47.27.199>

http://www.theregister.com/2004/12/07/rat_brain_flies_jet/

Hehe, so we'll eventually be able to complain about bad 'rat' drivers. {g}

On a serious note, disembodied brains being used in 'defense' vehicles? 
SciFi becoming reality, indeed.

Dina





From punkieshazam at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 16 05:32:53 2004
From: punkieshazam at yahoo.com (punkieshazam)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:32:53 -0000
Subject: 'Petri Dish' Rat Brain Flies Jet
In-Reply-To: <1258.4.47.27.199.1103139897.squirrel@4.47.27.199>
Message-ID: <cpr6m5+l8ku@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> 
wrote:
> http://www.theregister.com/2004/12/07/rat_brain_flies_jet/
> 
> Hehe, so we'll eventually be able to complain about bad 'rat' 
drivers. {g}
> 
> On a serious note, disembodied brains being used in 'defense' 
vehicles? 
> SciFi becoming reality, indeed.
> 
> Dina

Punkie

Oh. My. God! It's the Ship That Sang.

Punkie






From msbeadsley at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 16 07:59:00 2004
From: msbeadsley at yahoo.com (msbeadsley)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:59:00 -0000
Subject: 'Petri Dish' Rat Brain Flies Jet
In-Reply-To: <cpr6m5+l8ku@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cprf84+rbv4@eGroups.com>


> Oh. My. God! It's the Ship That Sang.
> 
> Punkie

Close. McCaffrey's version was a born human baby (with a lot of 
problems, some of which were handled by "bottling") rather than grown 
brain tissue. Wasn't it, er, she?

Sandy






From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu Dec 16 14:10:14 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:10:14 -0000
Subject: 'Petri Dish' Rat Brain Flies Jet
In-Reply-To: <1258.4.47.27.199.1103139897.squirrel@4.47.27.199>
Message-ID: <cps506+v6hh@eGroups.com>


Dina wrote:
> http://www.theregister.com/2004/12/07/rat_brain_flies_jet/
> 
> Hehe, so we'll eventually be able to complain about bad 'rat' 
drivers. {g}
> 
> On a serious note, disembodied brains being used in 'defense' 
vehicles? 
> SciFi becoming reality, indeed.

Yeah, well, no-one ever called them 'top brains', did they.

David






From entropymail at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 16 17:51:15 2004
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:51:15 -0000
Subject: HBP June Release and HP Initials?
Message-ID: <cpshuj+ob43@eGroups.com>


Just wanted to get everyone's opinion of a possible June/July release
for the Half-blood Prince?  Mugglenet seems to think it's gonna happen.  

On another note, just as the two most recent Hogwarts headmasters have
the same initials (Armando Dippet and Albus Dumbledore), could it be
that Harry Potter shares the same initials as the Half-blood Prince
for some similar reason? Could the Half-blood Prince parallel Harry's
journey in some way? Perhaps a historical character who helped to
defeat Grindelwald?

I'm still hoping for a mysterious royal past to surface for Lupin; he
deserves a rich past after all of the scruffy clothes JKR's been
forcing him to wear lately.  But I thought I'd throw this one out to
see what sticks.

Entropy






From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 17 19:37:53 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:37:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs
Message-ID: <4342.4.12.232.11.1103312273.squirrel@4.12.232.11>

I'm doing some catch-up reading and I just caught a message referencing
the LOTR trilogy boxset has different specials and extras from the single
movie releases. :-\  As if the fact you'd have to buy both theatrical and
extended cuts of each movie (each version had different extras) wasn't
enough, now you'd have to get a third copy of the movies to be complete in
all the 'goodies'.  Granted, they generally are considered *goodies* for
folks who like the movie cast/crew and other details.

Hm, if the HP DVDs had done the same thing (theatrical and extended cuts
with no redundant extras and they weren't so... lacking in details about
making the movies), would you buy the 'boxsets' if they had unique extras?
 This isn't a question to be answered--hey, I'm finally clearing out my
inbox--but something to mull over for a bit because the HP movies could do
more than one boxset over the course of seven movies.

Heck, this isn't even including 'gift sets'--c'mon, the first LOTR EE gift
set had *bookends*, a good extra for a book-based movie.

I know it's costly to gather all the extras for inclusion but they could
also be a 'cash cow' to milk, which is why I speculated on would folk pony
up the money.  I'm poor, so there's a part of me that's grateful I'm not
missing much but another part that really wanted to see more extras on the
making of and more in-depth cast/crew interviews.

Dina






From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Fri Dec 17 21:11:45 2004
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:11:45 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs
In-Reply-To: <4342.4.12.232.11.1103312273.squirrel@4.12.232.11>
Message-ID: <E1CfPO9-0002LV-00@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net>

Hi, Dina!  Well, my darling hubby has known for the longest time that I'd be
getting both the theatrical release versions and the extended versions of
all three LOTR films, because I've told him so very many times.  I have all
three theatricals, and the first two extended sets (gonna get the third for
Christmas, whether he gets it for me or I get it for myself).  He had BETTER
realize that I'll be getting the full-and-complete box set, as well, when
that one comes out.  ;-)
 
If WB did the same thing with the HP flicks, I'd buy them, too.  They *are*
missing out on a LOT of revenue, there.
 
 
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From: Dina Lerret [mailto:redina at silverbloom.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:38 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs


I'm doing some catch-up reading and I just caught a message referencing
the LOTR trilogy boxset has different specials and extras from the single
movie releases. :-\  As if the fact you'd have to buy both theatrical and
extended cuts of each movie (each version had different extras) wasn't
enough, now you'd have to get a third copy of the movies to be complete in
all the 'goodies'.  Granted, they generally are considered *goodies* for
folks who like the movie cast/crew and other details.

<snip> 


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Sat Dec 18 02:11:42 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:11:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: BadgerBadger vs. PotterPotter
Message-ID: <1115.4.47.27.210.1103335902.squirrel@4.47.27.210>

I honestly did not get the 'BadgerBadger' reference in PotterPotter:
http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/

Until someone suggested I run a search for the flash animation and I found
a copy at:
http://www.funnyheck.com/badgerbadger.html

Weirdly enough, I thought it was more funny when another person asked
'what was the point after watching the flashvid for ~5-6 minutes' because
I had the same reaction. {chuckle}

I know some flash animations are interactive such as:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/207627

where you can squeeze Rupert Grint's arse and get a reaction.  And yep,
this is the same guy who does PotterPals if you pull up his profile.

But both the BadgerBadger and PotterPotter ones seemed more an exercise in
how long can you watch them before the tune is stuck in your head. {g}

Dina





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 19 05:05:52 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 19 Dec 2004 05:05:52 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1103432752.44.30350.m1@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 19, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun Dec 19 07:38:24 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:38:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Saturday was just not my day :-(
Message-ID: <2831.4.47.27.210.1103441904.squirrel@4.47.27.210>

I've got a *huuuge* zit on my cheek because I'll be on the rag for Christmas.

I email an HP slash list admin to *politely* inquire about removing
spammers and spam, and I get 'bitchslapped' with list ownership.

I go to visit a couple of my favorite sites to find one permanently gone
(password protection will prevent any Google cache or the likes) and my
'ratio' on the other resembling the Titanic sinking when I had a good
status before.

My mom places in some phone calls for a Christmas dinner at a restaurant
and she wants her children there... Problem is I know she can't afford
(I've done spreadsheets on all her income/expenses) her three children,
two SOs of said children, and a grandchild.  So, when I find out my
sister, her young daughter, and my sister's boyfriend are attending, I
decline so as to save my mom some money--plus, I don't really get along
with my sister.  I then get a second heads-up my mom *cancelled* my
sister's invite as a way for me to attend. {blink, blink}  How can I still
decline that?  If she called my sister back, it'd be awkward, and if I
don't go, she'd have two children missing.

Now, I feel bad. :-(  Granted, my mom only would pay for one dinner versus
three, but my mom hasn't spent a Christmas with her first daughter in
years... Err, you can estimate on the 'favoritism' issues popping up and
how the split between my sister and I occurred.

Also, my mom mentioned my brother and his wife were asking for my clothing
size. =:-o  I really don't like folks buying me clothes.  I remember
getting this snowman sweater (totally sympathize over the Weasley
jumpers/sweaters) and did not like wearing it as a young teen... Ick, I
was pressured into wearing the... *thing*.

I've had a bad day... and I'm nearly out of zit cream. :-(

Dina





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Sun Dec 19 14:48:08 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:48:08 -0000
Subject: Accio CFP Deadline Reminder
Message-ID: <cq44b8+e5ld@eGroups.com>


Accio 2005 would like to remind you that the deadline
for submissions in response to our call for papers is
fast approaching. If you have a presentation that you
would like to submit for our consideration, please
email it to submissions at accio.org.uk by December 31,
2004. Please see
http://www.accio.org.uk./call4papers.shtml for
detailed information.

Anyone who is interested in participating in a Snape
panel, please email the same address, submissions @ accio.org.uk 
(without the gaps) to indicate your interest.

Accio 2005 is an unofficial friendly event, bringing
together academics and adult Harry Potter fans to
discuss all aspects of J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter
books. Planned events include presentations, panels,
speeches, games, a feast, and informal discussions
into the wee hours. 

Sponsored by HPfGU, Accio 2005 is the first Harry Potter conference 
in the UK,  and will take place at the University of Reading over the
weekend of 29 - 31 July, 2005. For more information,
please see our website at http://www.accio.org.uk./






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 19 16:02:17 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 19 Dec 2004 16:02:17 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1103472137.15.57699.m22@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 19, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 20 03:38:33 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:38:33 -0000
Subject: Saturday was just not my day :-(
In-Reply-To: <2831.4.47.27.210.1103441904.squirrel@4.47.27.210>
Message-ID: <cq5hfp+apgu@eGroups.com>



There, there.  Just tell them what size you would take in the "I Love 
Draco" t-shirt at Hot Topic ;P Maybe send them the link.

Seriously, how about suggesting to your mom that she suggest a gift 
card?  

imamommy


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> 
wrote:
> I've got a *huuuge* zit on my cheek because I'll be on the rag for 
Christmas.
> 
> I email an HP slash list admin to *politely* inquire about removing
> spammers and spam, and I get 'bitchslapped' with list ownership.
> 
> I go to visit a couple of my favorite sites to find one permanently 
gone
> (password protection will prevent any Google cache or the likes) 
and my
> 'ratio' on the other resembling the Titanic sinking when I had a 
good
> status before.
> 
> My mom places in some phone calls for a Christmas dinner at a 
restaurant
> and she wants her children there... Problem is I know she can't 
afford
> (I've done spreadsheets on all her income/expenses) her three 
children,
> two SOs of said children, and a grandchild.  So, when I find out my
> sister, her young daughter, and my sister's boyfriend are 
attending, I
> decline so as to save my mom some money--plus, I don't really get 
along
> with my sister.  I then get a second heads-up my mom *cancelled* my
> sister's invite as a way for me to attend. {blink, blink}  How can 
I still
> decline that?  If she called my sister back, it'd be awkward, and 
if I
> don't go, she'd have two children missing.
> 
> Now, I feel bad. :-(  Granted, my mom only would pay for one dinner 
versus
> three, but my mom hasn't spent a Christmas with her first daughter 
in
> years... Err, you can estimate on the 'favoritism' issues popping 
up and
> how the split between my sister and I occurred.
> 
> Also, my mom mentioned my brother and his wife were asking for my 
clothing
> size. =:-o  I really don't like folks buying me clothes.  I remember
> getting this snowman sweater (totally sympathize over the Weasley
> jumpers/sweaters) and did not like wearing it as a young teen... 
Ick, I
> was pressured into wearing the... *thing*.
> 
> I've had a bad day... and I'm nearly out of zit cream. :-(
> 
> Dina






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 20 03:48:42 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:48:42 -0000
Subject: LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs
In-Reply-To: <E1CfPO9-0002LV-00@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net>
Message-ID: <cq5i2q+13ng@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tammy Rizzo" <ms-
tamany at r...> wrote:
> Hi, Dina!  Well, my darling hubby has known for the longest time 
that I'd be
> getting both the theatrical release versions and the extended 
versions of
> all three LOTR films, because I've told him so very many times.  I 
have all
> three theatricals, and the first two extended sets (gonna get the 
third for
> Christmas, whether he gets it for me or I get it for myself).  He 
had BETTER
> realize that I'll be getting the full-and-complete box set, as 
well, when
> that one comes out.  ;-)
>  
> If WB did the same thing with the HP flicks, I'd buy them, too.  
They *are*
> missing out on a LOT of revenue, there.
>  
>  
> ***
> Tammy Rizzo

Hi Tammy!

I'm glad you're still around! 
No, I probably wouldn't buy them, but then again I am only collecting 
the extended sets of LOTR (when I want to see the "extra" extras on 
the theatricals, that's what Netflix is for).

There's extra extra extras on the box set?  That's cool, but I 
wouldn't rebuy the movies again for them.

No, and certainly not for the HP series...I don't think the movies 
are near as enjoyable as the LOTR series.  The only way I would buy 
more out of this franchise would be if they released actual extended 
versions, with cut scenes brought in to the actual movie, but I doubt 
they will.  It is likely cost prohibitive; you have to do the 
effects, have the composer rescore, etc...I don't think they'd sell 
enough to make it worth their while.

Then again, WB's biggest mistake seems to be underestimating the 
loyal (adult) fan base of this series...They've been missing out on a 
lot of merchandising as well.

imamommy
who wishes Tammy a very Merry Christmas
> From: Dina Lerret [mailto:redina at s...] 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs
> 
> 
> I'm doing some catch-up reading and I just caught a message 
referencing
> the LOTR trilogy boxset has different specials and extras from the 
single
> movie releases. :-\  As if the fact you'd have to buy both 
theatrical and
> extended cuts of each movie (each version had different extras) 
wasn't
> enough, now you'd have to get a third copy of the movies to be 
complete in
> all the 'goodies'.  Granted, they generally are considered 
*goodies* for
> folks who like the movie cast/crew and other details.
> 
> <snip> 
> 
> 
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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon Dec 20 04:30:20 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:30:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Saturday was just not my day :-(
In-Reply-To: <cq5hfp+apgu@eGroups.com>
References: <2831.4.47.27.210.1103441904.squirrel@4.47.27.210>
    <cq5hfp+apgu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4453.4.47.27.198.1103517020.squirrel@4.47.27.198>

elady25 said:

> There, there.  Just tell them what size you would take in the "I Love
> Draco" t-shirt at Hot Topic ;P Maybe send them the link.

{chuckle} Good point.  Hey, they might surprise me since they know I like HP.


> Seriously, how about suggesting to your mom that she suggest a gift
> card?

Yeah, but then if my mom called them back, it's a good chance they'd know
she told me.  I've been reading the various ideas for stocking stuffers
and noting them.  A stop by the dollar store sounds like a good idea!

And I'm watching ABC Family's airing of the first HP movie.  Other than
the movie being butchered, I got a kick out of one commercial advocating
lower calorie food for the holidays and then ABC cuts back to the feast
scene with the big platter of chicken. {chuckle}

Dina





From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Mon Dec 20 04:37:19 2004
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:37:19 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs
In-Reply-To: <cq5i2q+13ng@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1CgFIQ-0001NJ-00@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net>

scroll down . . . .
 
 
***
Tammy Rizzo
HYPERLINK "mailto:ms-tamany at rcn.com"ms-tamany at rcn.com
 
Help me earn a new laptop!  Use this link!  HYPERLINK
"http://www.ezlaptop.com/index.php?ref=8574"http://www.ezlaptop.com/index.ph
p?ref=8574 
 
 
 


   _____  

From: elady25 [mailto:imamommy at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:49 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: LOTR DVDs 'milking it' and HP DVDs

Hi Tammy!

I'm glad you're still around! 

[Now Tammy:] Oh, I've been lurking quietly for months and months, now.  :-)
It's rare when I have something to say that someone else has't already said
better.  Plus, I'm not the only Tammy around here, either.  But it's nice
when someone knows my name (even if it's not ME they're thinking of, LOL).
 
No, I probably wouldn't buy them, but then again I am only collecting 
the extended sets of LOTR (when I want to see the "extra" extras on 
the theatricals, that's what Netflix is for).

[Now Tammy:] Oh, I just love Netflix!  :-D  I don't know what we'd do
anymore without Netflix.  We must have rented at least a couple hundred
movies from them now.
 
There's extra extra extras on the box set?  That's cool, but I 
wouldn't rebuy the movies again for them.

[Now Tammy:] Well, I'm not certain about the box-set, to begin with.  I
mean, it's been rumored since before 'Fellowship' hit the screens, and it's
basically accepted as fact that it'll show up soon, but I don't know for
certain if it's just 'accepted fact' or if it's Truth.  :-)
 
No, and certainly not for the HP series...I don't think the movies 
are near as enjoyable as the LOTR series.  The only way I would buy 
more out of this franchise would be if they released actual extended 
versions, with cut scenes brought in to the actual movie, but I doubt 
they will.  It is likely cost prohibitive; you have to do the 
effects, have the composer rescore, etc...I don't think they'd sell 
enough to make it worth their while.

[Now Tammy:] Well, WB would be in good company, considering all the other
companies that have basically shot their milk cows while they were still
producing.
 
Then again, WB's biggest mistake seems to be underestimating the 
loyal (adult) fan base of this series...They've been missing out on a 
lot of merchandising as well.

[Now Tammy:] WB has been missing a lot on the merchandising, but I myself am
glad not to be inundated with Harry Potter Mania.  It's hard enough to get
my hubby to admit that, maybe, possibly, to OTHER people than himself, LOTR
and HP might just possibly NOT be wastes of paper and/or film.  If the
merchandising were any heavier on HP, he might just be turned against it
(tongue firmly in cheek, here).
 
imamommy
who wishes Tammy a very Merry Christmas

[Now Tammy:]  And a very merry Christmas to you, too, and to everyone else
on the list as well -- Happy Holidays!


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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 22:21:25 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:21:25 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!
Message-ID: <cq7j95+6plf@eGroups.com>


Whoohoo! The door is open again! To see how to get into the door and 
some other possible spoilers see below:
*
*
*
*
*
S P O I L E R
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
To open the door:




Click on the tree in the mirror.


Not much to do here other than look at the presents. If you click on 
them the lights go out. I was able to "levitate" each tag by using 
the mouse to raise them and click to hold them in place (without the 
lights going out) but nothing happens after that. I also waited for 
Peeves to come and still not much happening....Guess we will be 
waiting until Christmas.....

Other things I noticed but don't know how significant they are:

7  yellow ornaments
7 green ornaments
6 red ornaments
4 yellow lights
6 green lights
6 red lights
6 candles on the tree
6 red berries in each cluster around the picture
5 cards
6 presents
6 people in the picture
one green possibly a cracker in the tree
one blue possibly a cracker in the tree

Lot of 6s are showing up!

Hopefully others will figure out some more.

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 22:38:36 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:38:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7j95+6plf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041220223836.66061.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>




S P O I L E R
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
To open the door:




Click on the tree in the mirror.  The door opens and the presents are there.  Click on each picture and answer the questions on them.  (riddles)  When you finish, the star at the top lights up and then you click on the middle card.  You get a christmas card from JKR that says:

SPOILERS

.

.

.

.

.

.

.


The book is FINISHED and at the publishers and we will have a publication date within 24 hours!!!!

 

 

moonmyyst




		
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From spin01 at aol.com  Mon Dec 20 22:45:17 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:45:17 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220223836.66061.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq7klt+b739@eGroups.com>


ok so I have been there and the do not disturb sign is up.  do you 
ahve to wait for peeves?
sherry

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> S P O I L E R
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> To open the door:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Click on the tree in the mirror.  The door opens and the presents 
are there.  Click on each picture and answer the questions on them.  
(riddles)  When you finish, the star at the top lights up and then 
you click on the middle card.  You get a christmas card from JKR that 
says:
> 
> SPOILERS
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> 
> The book is FINISHED and at the publishers and we will have a 
publication date within 24 hours!!!!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Mon Dec 20 22:45:50 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:45:50 -0000
Subject: Just to remind you all...
Message-ID: <cq7kmu+b24b@eGroups.com>


http://www.bloomsburymagazine.com/harrypotter/wizard/section/faq.asp?
pageNo=15

or

http://www.bloomsburymagazine.com/harrypotter/muggles/faq/faq.asp?
pageNo=15

(depending on whether you're a witch/wizard or a muggle) is a place 
to keep your eye on.

David






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 22:50:14 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:50:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7klt+b739@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041220225014.69434.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>

spinelli372003 <spin01 at aol.com> wrote:


ok so I have been there and the do not disturb sign is up.  do you 
ahve to wait for peeves?
sherry


 
No.  It should be off.  When I used to use AOL I always had trouble if I went to JKRowling.com.  I would have to go to JKRowling.org in order to see the sign off of the door.  There are others on the list who had other ideas on what to do.  
 
Can anyone else help Sherry?



 

moonmyyst

 

p.s.... the riddles are easy.  Anyone on this list can answer them with no problems.  (my 11 year old stood here with me and gave me most of the answers)

		
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From spin01 at aol.com  Mon Dec 20 22:56:40 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:56:40 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220225014.69434.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq7lb8+qh73@eGroups.com>


> Can anyone else help Sherry?

Please please please help me lol.  My 15yr old and I are sitting 
hunched over the computer banging on the keys now.  HELP!!!  I can 
get Jo's site to open and the music is going from the radio etc.  the 
tree is twinkling just still have the sign up.  I wonder if you have 
to have all the stuff in the scrap book or something?
sherry
> 
> 
>  
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
>  
> 
> p.s.... the riddles are easy.  Anyone on this list can answer them 
with no problems.  (my 11 year old stood here with me and gave me 
most of the answers)
> 
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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:03:34 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:03:34 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7lb8+qh73@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cq7lo6+oim5@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" 
<spin01 at a...> wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone else help Sherry?
> 
> Please please please help me lol.  My 15yr old and I are sitting 
> hunched over the computer banging on the keys now.  HELP!!!  I can 
> get Jo's site to open and the music is going from the radio etc.  
the tree is twinkling just still have the sign up.  I wonder if you 
have to have all the stuff in the scrap book or something?
> sherry
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > moonmyyst
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > p.s.... the riddles are easy.  Anyone on this list can answer 
them with no problems.  (my 11 year old stood here with me and gave 
me most of the answers)
> > 
*S P O I L E R*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Try clicking on the cards for the last bit once the tree lights 
up......

As to the answers - REAL BIG HINT - Think of the title of the book 
it should help with most but not all of the answers.....

Dudemom_2000 *jumping around the room with glee*

*****\(@@)/*****






From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon Dec 20 23:20:17 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:20:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  
     SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7lo6+oim5@eGroups.com>
References: <cq7lb8+qh73@eGroups.com> <cq7lo6+oim5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1908.4.47.27.212.1103584817.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

dudemom_2000 said:

> *S P O I L E R*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *

random
tidbit
for
extra
space
I
just
read
a
headless
chicken
continued
living
http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.htm


> As to the answers - REAL BIG HINT - Think of the title of the book
> it should help with most but not all of the answers.....

Oh yeah, I was stumped on the 'be all that you can be' riddle until...
{lightbulb goes on} ...The riddles have a theme.  Since I'm bad at
riddles, it took me about four minutes with some trial and error on that
one bugger. :-\

Dina





From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:20:57 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:20:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7lb8+qh73@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041220232057.55655.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>



spinelli372003 <spin01 at aol.com> wrote:

> Can anyone else help Sherry?

Please please please help me lol.  My 15yr old and I are sitting 
hunched over the computer banging on the keys now.  HELP!!!  I can 
get Jo's site to open and the music is going from the radio etc.  the 
tree is twinkling just still have the sign up.  I wonder if you have 
to have all the stuff in the scrap book or something?
sherry
> 


 

I know that every time the sign has been off the door, there have been some that have had this problem.  Are you using AOL?  Have you tried going in through the other web site?  I know there is something to do with dumping the "cookies" out of your computer (but trust me.... between me, my boys and my dogs, there is not a cookie to be had in this house!!)

moonmyyst


		
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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:27:03 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:27:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <1908.4.47.27.212.1103584817.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <20041220232703.68424.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>



Dina Lerret <redina at silverbloom.net> wrote:
dudemom_2000 said:

> *S P O I L E R*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *

random
tidbit
for
extra
space
I
just
read
a
headless
chicken
continued
living
http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.htm


> As to the answers - REAL BIG HINT - Think of the title of the book
> it should help with most but not all of the answers.....

Oh yeah, I was stumped on the 'be all that you can be' riddle until...
{lightbulb goes on} ...The riddles have a theme.  Since I'm bad at
riddles, it took me about four minutes with some trial and error on that
one bugger. :-\

Dina



CHICKEN??  ....Dina.... I love your posts!!!!!

 

I was wondering when the theme of the riddles would come up.  Three of them are obvious.  But what does everyone make out of the other 3?  Otter?  Bristol?  Corned Beef?  Are they just random or can anyone make out a pattern or theme?

All I can come up with is that each of them refer to one of the golden trio.  Any other ideas?

moonmyyst


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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:28:59 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:28:59 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220232057.55655.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq7n7r+6vu9@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> spinelli372003 <spin01 at a...> wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone else help Sherry?
> 
> Please please please help me lol.  My 15yr old and I are sitting 
> hunched over the computer banging on the keys now.  HELP!!!  I can 
> get Jo's site to open and the music is going from the radio etc.  
the tree is twinkling just still have the sign up.  I wonder if you 
have to have all the stuff in the scrap book or something?
> sherry
> > 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> I know that every time the sign has been off the door, there have 
been some that have had this problem.  Are you using AOL?  Have you 
tried going in through the other web site?  I know there is 
something to do with dumping the "cookies" out of your computer (but 
trust me.... between me, my boys and my dogs, there is not a cookie 
to be had in this house!!)
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
*****\(@@)/*****

To dump those cookies go to Tools (click on it) at the top of the 
screen on the toolbar and then click on Internet Options. It gets 
you a page with a bunch of tabs. Click on the General tab. You will 
see in the middle a line that says Temporary Internet Files - click 
on Delete Cookies (I also delete Files and then go down to the Clear 
History and delete that too just to houseclean) That should clean it 
up enough to make the site work again.
Hope this helps!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:31:04 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:31:04 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220232703.68424.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq7nbo+7aa7@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dina Lerret <redina at s...> wrote:
> dudemom_2000 said:
> 
> > *S P O I L E R*
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> 
> random
> tidbit
> for
> extra
> space
> I
> just
> read
> a
> headless
> chicken
> continued
> living
> http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.htm
> 
> 
> > As to the answers - REAL BIG HINT - Think of the title of the 
book
> > it should help with most but not all of the answers.....
> 
> Oh yeah, I was stumped on the 'be all that you can be' riddle 
until...
> {lightbulb goes on} ...The riddles have a theme.  Since I'm bad at
> riddles, it took me about four minutes with some trial and error 
on that
> one bugger. :-\
> 
> Dina
> 
> 
> 
> CHICKEN??  ....Dina.... I love your posts!!!!!
> 
>  
> 
> I was wondering when the theme of the riddles would come up.  
Three of them are obvious.  But what does everyone make out of the 
other 3?  Otter?  Bristol?  Corned Beef?  Are they just random or 
can anyone make out a pattern or theme?
> 
> All I can come up with is that each of them refer to one of the 
golden trio.  Any other ideas?
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
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How about C BOB (Corned Beef Otter Bristol! *rolls of the floor 
laughing*

I have no idea what that could mean.....

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From snow15145 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:34:48 2004
From: snow15145 at yahoo.com (snow15145)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:34:48 -0000
Subject: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220232703.68424.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq7nio+37ur@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dina Lerret <redina at s...> wrote:
> dudemom_2000 said:
> 
> > *S P O I L E R*
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *

> 
> I was wondering when the theme of the riddles would come up.  Three 
of them are obvious.  But what does everyone make out of the other 
3?  Otter?  Bristol?  Corned Beef?  Are they just random or can 
anyone make out a pattern or theme?
> 
> All I can come up with is that each of them refer to one of the 
golden trio.  Any other ideas?
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
Snow:

Maybe you have to try and put them together like:
Otter= Ought to  Beef=  Be or Before...and you make a sentence out of 
it.

Did any one else see that bug on the main desk again that looks like 
a doxy?






From toofacedgrl at aol.com  Mon Dec 20 23:36:46 2004
From: toofacedgrl at aol.com (toofacedgrl at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:36:46 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!   SPOILERS!!!
Message-ID: <12e.53a73d16.2ef8bc0e@aol.com>

if you have the ''do not disturb'' sign up, and you use AOL, go to 
www.jkrowling.org instead of www.jkrowling.com.  I had the same problem, and I was able 
to access the door without the sign on it that way.  Good luck!


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:50:33 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:50:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <cq7nio+37ur@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041220235033.76742.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>



snow15145 <snow15145 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Did any one else see that bug on the main desk again that looks like 
a doxy?




I did.  It came through about the time Peeves did.  The watch and the sneakoscope went nuts about the same time.  Black with lots of legs.

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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Mon Dec 20 23:54:58 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:54:58 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!   SPOILERS!!!
References: <12e.53a73d16.2ef8bc0e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008901c4e6ef$503c0720$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

THANKS that worked for me.  I was stuck with the sign also.  I have yet to read any of the hints on what to do next so wish me luck!!

Heather
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: toofacedgrl at aol.com 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again! I got it open!! SPOILERS!!!


  if you have the ''do not disturb'' sign up, and you use AOL, go to 
  www.jkrowling.org instead of www.jkrowling.com.  I had the same problem, and I was able 
  to access the door without the sign on it that way.  Good luck!


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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 20 23:58:56 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:58:56 -0000
Subject: For those who want help
Message-ID: <cq7p00+rikf@eGroups.com>


A good site (but only if you are desperate!)is

http://www.potterskeys.com/

I really recommend trying to solve it yourself first but this is a 
good resource for those who are stumped.


Dudemom_2000 (who is still giddy at the news)

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From toofacedgrl at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 00:03:28 2004
From: toofacedgrl at aol.com (toofacedgrl at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:03:28 EST
Subject: Fwd: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILER...
Message-ID: <24.66c3da86.2ef8c250@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/20/2004 6:42:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
snow15145 at yahoo.com writes:
Maybe you have to try and put them together like:
Otter= Ought to  Beef=  Be or Before...and you make a sentence out of 
it.


This is what I got when I played around with the words a bit...

SPOILER SPACE
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Otter (corned) beef Bristol

this makes me think it will be out before Christmas 2005.  Don't ask me why.  
Bristol reminds me of the word Christmas, and Otter + Beef makes me think of 
"ought to be before" also.   



 


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 00:16:03 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:16:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I HAVE IT!!  I KNOW WHO THE HBP IS!!!! SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220235033.76742.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041221001603.97206.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>

SPOILERS!!!!!
*

*

*

*

*

*

*

*

The HBP is an Otter that lives in Bristol and eats Corned Beef!!!!  (or is that a corned beef who likes otters......)
 
moonmyyst (who promises to lay off the eggnog.... maybe....next year.....)

		
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From toofacedgrl at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 00:18:07 2004
From: toofacedgrl at aol.com (toofacedgrl at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:18:07 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILER...
Message-ID: <42.5f05755c.2ef8c5bf@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:13:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
toofacedgrl at aol.com writes:
Otter (corned) beef Bristol

this makes me think it will be out before Christmas 2005.  Don't ask me why.  
Bristol reminds me of the word Christmas, and Otter + Beef makes me think of 
"ought to be before" also.   
I'VE GOT IT.  I just realized when the book will be released.

I began thinking about it "ought to be before Christmas"--it can't be before 
this Christmas, obviously, so it has to be Christmas 2005.  Then I thought, 
wait, when was the 5th book released?  June 21st.  Summer Solstice.  What's 6 
months after the Summer Solstice?  Tomorrow.  December 21st, the Winter 
Solstice.  This would lead me to believe that they are going to release the book for 
sale a year from now.  The June 21st date seems a bit too early for that, plus 
the 4th movie will be ready by then, right?  Too close together.  So I predict 
December 21st.


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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 00:28:59 2004
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:28:59 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILER...
Message-ID: <ce.5e5c3dfb.2ef8c84b@aol.com>

those answers could be related to the Weasleys - except 1/2 and  
prince...Unless She's trying to tell us Arthur is the Half Blood Prince.
 
 
Where they live - Otter St. Catchpole
What Ron hates - Corned Beef
 
hmmmmm......do you think.....??????
 
 


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 00:34:55 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:34:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILER...
In-Reply-To: <ce.5e5c3dfb.2ef8c84b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20041221003455.56982.qmail@web53502.mail.yahoo.com>



shalimar07 at aol.com wrote:
those answers could be related to the Weasleys - except 1/2 and  
prince...Unless She's trying to tell us Arthur is the Half Blood Prince.


Where they live - Otter St. Catchpole
What Ron hates - Corned Beef

hmmmmm......do you think.....??????




Well, if you go along the Weasley route, half could refer to one of the twins?  (but why not the other?) or the old theory that some of the Weasley kids are acturally Prewetts?  

moonmyyst  (who still likes her other theory better... corned beef eating otters living in Bristol)


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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 00:44:13 2004
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:44:13 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Door is Open again!  I got it open!!       SPOILER...
Message-ID: <1a8.2d7ea7f3.2ef8cbdd@aol.com>

I tend to think of the twins as Prewetts.  There's a couple of  references 
that make me think in that directions.
 
Book 1 - And you call yourself our mother...
 
Book 5 - That's everyone in the Family (Molly about Ron being a Prefect)  and 
the twins response."And what are Fred and I...Next door  Neighbors?"


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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Tue Dec 21 00:46:15 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:46:15 -0000
Subject: Release date sums
Message-ID: <cq7ron+u7gp@eGroups.com>


Last time the announcement of the release date was made on 15th 
Jan.  This time it will be made on 21st Dec - 25 days earlier, give 
or take a couple of years.

A simple like-for-like comparison gives a date at the end of May; 
however, it might be sensible to add a week or so for the fact that 
everything closes down here for Christmas, bringing us into early 
June.

One may suppose that this book is shorter than OOP and GOF (because -
 hollow laugh - JKR said it would be, and because she has written it 
quicker than OOP (though not GOF)); I don't know if that affects the 
duration of the time from submission of the MS to publication.  Not 
that much, I would imagine.

Finally, as an aside, I note that Bloomsbury's financial year is 
coterminous with the calendar year - by promising a definite release 
date this week, she may have done Bloomsbury quite a favour, since 
it may allow them to strengthen their balance sheet at year end.

We now ought to revisit the ever-fascinating question: how long will 
the book be?  I'm guessing we won't be told the number of pages (or 
words) this time around just yet, as it would partly pre-empt the 
website poll.

David






From redina at silverbloom.net  Tue Dec 21 01:44:14 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:44:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!! 
     SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220232703.68424.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1908.4.47.27.212.1103584817.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
    <20041220232703.68424.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1996.4.47.27.212.1103593454.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

K G said:

> CHICKEN??

Yep, amazing but kinda sad too... Until you see what folks with a head are
subjected to wearing:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/cometomorrow/17261.html

I think the chicken got it easy.  A $2.7million dollar hat made out of
diamonds must be quite a balancing act [on both the checkbook and head
alignment].


> I was wondering when the theme of the riddles would come up.  Three of
> them are obvious.  But what does everyone make out of the other 3?  Otter?
>  Bristol?  Corned Beef?  Are they just random or can anyone make out a
> pattern or theme?
>
> All I can come up with is that each of them refer to one of the golden
> trio.  Any other ideas?

{g}  I think we may be looking a bit *too* hard.

Dina






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 21 02:48:01 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:48:01 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again!  I got it open!!  SPOILERS!!!
In-Reply-To: <20041220223836.66061.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <013001c4e707$7d3c7d00$0400a8c0@pensive>

Oh man!  Is that on the text only part of the site, too?  I would so like to
read it myself.  But I'm glad you posted this.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: K G [mailto:moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:39 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Door is Open again! I got it open!! SPOILERS!!!






S P O I L E R
*
*
*
*
*
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*
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*
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*
To open the door:




Click on the tree in the mirror.  The door opens and the presents are there.
Click on each picture and answer the questions on them.  (riddles)  When you
finish, the star at the top lights up and then you click on the middle card.
You get a christmas card from JKR that says:

SPOILERS

.

.

.

.

.

.

.


The book is FINISHED and at the publishers and we will have a publication
date within 24 hours!!!!

 

 

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From spin01 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 03:11:22 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:11:22 -0000
Subject: spoilers   still can't get in
In-Reply-To: <20041220223836.66061.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq848q+q6vn@eGroups.com>


ok so we still can't get in.  do you have to do the below in any 
scertain order or position?  
sherry

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> S P O I L E R
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> To open the door:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Click on the tree in the mirror.  The door opens and the presents 
are there.  Click on each picture and answer the questions on them.  
(riddles)  When you finish, the star at the top lights up and then 
you click on the middle card.  You get a christmas card from JKR that 
says:
> 
> SPOILERS
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> .
> 
> 
> The book is FINISHED and at the publishers and we will have a 
publication date within 24 hours!!!!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> moonmyyst
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
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From spin01 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 03:55:15 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:55:15 -0000
Subject: leave it to a 9yr old
In-Reply-To: <cq848q+q6vn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cq86r3+840d@eGroups.com>


Well leave it to a 9yr old.  This would be the same 9yr old who got 
me in thru the brick wall earlier this year lol.  He said let me try 
for a while mom.  I can do it.  And he did.  so we are in.  no 
thoughts on subject stuff yet.  but did get the riddles done.  yeah.  
ok so am goign to bed now its late. 
sherry

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" 
<spin01 at a...> wrote:
> 
> ok so we still can't get in.  do you have to do the below in any 
> scertain order or position?  
> sherry
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > S P O I L E R
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > To open the door:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Click on the tree in the mirror.  The door opens and the presents 
> are there.  Click on each picture and answer the questions on 
them.  
> (riddles)  When you finish, the star at the top lights up and then 
> you click on the middle card.  You get a christmas card from JKR 
that 
> says:
> > 
> > SPOILERS
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > 
> > The book is FINISHED and at the publishers and we will have a 
> publication date within 24 hours!!!!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > moonmyyst
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 21 07:42:27 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:42:27 -0000
Subject: Something to tide me over was Re:  Website Spoiler See it yourself First
Message-ID: <cq8k53+oe2n@eGroups.com>


moonmyst posted on the main list:

Maybe, but isn't it nice to have something new to talk about? I don't 
know
about you guys but I am going to find it hard to sleep tonight!! I 
just found
out that one of my other favorite authors has recently posted the 
release date
of book 11 in his series... and I have been waiting for this one much 
longer!!!!
This is going to be a great reading year for me!!!

moonmyyst

imamommy would like to know which series, to see if ten or eleven 
volumes might bide the time.  My husband keeps asking, "Aren't you 
going to read something else (besides HP)?"

"Maybe, honey, but don't hold your breath!"

imamommy






From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 11:38:58 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:38:58 -0000
Subject: JKRowling.com and AOL
Message-ID: <cq920i+m7cv@eGroups.com>


I couldn't get in last time on AOL, and it's happened again.  I've 
had to go in on microsoft explorer.  WHY?
Anyway - eagerly awaiting news of the publishing date; I'm all a 
quiver!!!
Sarah xx






From shalimar07 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 12:09:11 2004
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:09:11 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKRowling.com and AOL
Message-ID: <f6.464f582b.2ef96c67@aol.com>

If you are using JKRowling.com  go to JKRowling.org....I have AOl and  that 
was the only way I could get in.  Good  Luck.


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Tue Dec 21 13:34:21 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:34:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: It's c-c-cold here!
Message-ID: <2417.4.47.27.212.1103636061.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

As a Floridian, I'm a wuss when it comes to cold weather... {looks at what
she's wearing}  Hehe, it's ~50^F and I'm in a t-shirt and bottom 'scrubs'
with no socks.  Might explain why I can't feel my fingers and toes
(purplish and very cold).  Bleh, kinda contributes to not feeling well. 
Duh!

I'm going to bury myself under a comforter, a sleeping bag, and one of
those fuzzy blankets to thaw since I don't have working heater or a window
that fully closes. :-)

Dina





From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 13:34:46 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:34:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] leave it to a 9yr old
In-Reply-To: <cq86r3+840d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041221133446.76993.qmail@web53502.mail.yahoo.com>



spinelli372003 <spin01 at aol.com> wrote:

Well leave it to a 9yr old.  This would be the same 9yr old who got 
me in thru the brick wall earlier this year lol.  He said let me try 
for a while mom.  I can do it.  And he did.  so we are in.  no 
thoughts on subject stuff yet.  but did get the riddles done.  yeah.  
ok so am goign to bed now its late. 
sherry



If that kid does not go to college to study Computer Engineering, then the world is going to be missing something special!!!!

moonmyyst


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 13:40:55 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:40:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <2417.4.47.27.212.1103636061.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <20041221134055.82534.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Dina Lerret <redina at silverbloom.net> wrote: 
> 
> As a Floridian, I'm a wuss when it comes to cold
> weather... {looks at what
> she's wearing}  Hehe, it's ~50^F and I'm in a
> t-shirt and bottom 'scrubs'
> with no socks.  Might explain why I can't feel my
> fingers and toes
> (purplish and very cold).  Bleh, kinda contributes
> to not feeling well. 
> Duh!
> 
> I'm going to bury myself under a comforter, a
> sleeping bag, and one of
> those fuzzy blankets to thaw since I don't have
> working heater or a window
> that fully closes. :-)
> 
I'm guessing that inviting you up here is out of the
question, since it's -31 C with the windchill this
morning. Warmer than yesterday, which was -40. They
keep promising us warmer weather, but we're still
waiting. :)

Sheryll

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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 13:42:23 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:42:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Something to tide me over was Re:  Website Spoiler See it yourself First
In-Reply-To: <cq8k53+oe2n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041221134224.97173.qmail@web53501.mail.yahoo.com>



elady25 <imamommy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

moonmyst posted on the main list:

Maybe, but isn't it nice to have something new to talk about? I don't 
know
about you guys but I am going to find it hard to sleep tonight!! I 
just found
out that one of my other favorite authors has recently posted the 
release date
of book 11 in his series... and I have been waiting for this one much 
longer!!!!
This is going to be a great reading year for me!!!

moonmyyst

imamommy would like to know which series, to see if ten or eleven 
volumes might bide the time.  My husband keeps asking, "Aren't you 
going to read something else (besides HP)?"

"Maybe, honey, but don't hold your breath!"

imamommy




I have also been reading the Robet Jordan "The Wheel of Time" series.  My sister got me started on it.  If you can get past chapter 1 of the first book, then you are hooked.  You just have to get down that silly road!!!  The last couple of books have been a little slow.  The characters are a bit scattered (across the continent) and he has to bring them all back together soon.  There are only 2 books left.  He has written 1 prequel and I understand that he is going to write 2 more.  He has also sold the rights to a TV series/mini series/movie to Red Eagle Productions and they are getting ready to adapt it to film.  

moonmyyst


		
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From spin01 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 13:46:37 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:46:37 -0000
Subject: Something to tide me over was Re:  Website Spoiler See it yourself First
In-Reply-To: <20041221134224.97173.qmail@web53501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq99ft+i3l1@eGroups.com>


> imamommy would like to know which series, to see if ten or eleven 
> volumes might bide the time.  My husband keeps asking, "Aren't you 
> going to read something else (besides HP)?"
> 
> "Maybe, honey, but don't hold your breath!"
> 
> imamommy
> 
> 
this is me lol.  I read a lot of stuff but keep getting the HP books 
back out and rereading stuff.  My other boys (15 and 16) have read 
the books but are done with them once they read them.  the 9yr old is 
like me and obsessed with them.  we listen to them in the 
car/shower/bed/kitchen..........    and talk about them also.  he has 
started rereading the first one again.  so we are now talking about 
that one.  hopefully by time we reread them all the new one will be 
here.
sherry






From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Tue Dec 21 14:00:50 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:50 -0000
Subject: It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <20041221134055.82534.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cq9aai+rvf5@eGroups.com>


Sheryll wrote:

> They
> keep promising... but we're still
> waiting. :)

A condition we are all used to here.  About 7 months should do it.

David






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 14:08:19 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:08:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <2417.4.47.27.212.1103636061.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <20041221140819.90133.qmail@web53502.mail.yahoo.com>



Dina Lerret <redina at silverbloom.net> wrote:
As a Floridian, I'm a wuss when it comes to cold weather... {looks at what
she's wearing}  Hehe, it's ~50^F and I'm in a t-shirt and bottom 'scrubs'
with no socks.  Might explain why I can't feel my fingers and toes
(purplish and very cold).  Bleh, kinda contributes to not feeling well. 
Duh!

I'm going to bury myself under a comforter, a sleeping bag, and one of
those fuzzy blankets to thaw since I don't have working heater or a window
that fully closes. :-)

Dina




I am just a little ways north of you (just outside of Atlanta) and it was 16^F here yesterday morning!!  I did not leave the house all day!!  It figures, when it gets cold, it clears off.  It is warming into the 50's by tomorrow and it will rain!!  So much for a white christmas!!

 

moonmyyst


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 14:42:58 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:42:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <20041221140819.90133.qmail@web53502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041221144258.85061.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com>




Dina Lerret <redina at silverbloom.net> wrote:
As a Floridian, I'm a wuss when it comes to cold weather... {looks at what she's wearing}  Hehe, it's ~50^F and I'm in a t-shirt and bottom 'scrubs'with no socks.  Might explain why I can't feel my fingers and toes (purplish and very cold).  Bleh, kinda contributes to not feeling well. 
Duh!

Dina



I just checked temps around and here is what I found:

Dallas, Ga (where I am)  25^F  and partly cloudy

Austin, Tx (where my daughter is) 58^F  and sunny

Aberdeen (because it is as close to where I think Hogwarts would be as I can pull a temp for)  38^F  and cloudy

Malin Head (that is in Ireland and I just like the name of the place)  42^F  and partly cloudy

I think that we all need to get a fire going and roast some marshmellows and make some smores!!!

moonmyyst


		
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From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Tue Dec 21 16:42:32 2004
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:42:32 -0000
Subject: JKR reveals even more
Message-ID: <cq9jpo+kl7c@eGroups.com>


In all the excitement of the book release announcement, did anyone 
notice that the FAQs have been updated? She's answered some 
interesting (but not terribly revealing) questions, some of which 
came from MuggleNet's extensive list. For example, she reveals that 
Hermione is the oldest of the trio, since her September birthday kept 
her from entering Hogwarts until she was almost 12.
MsTattersall






From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Tue Dec 21 16:49:24 2004
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:49:24 -0000
Subject: It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <2417.4.47.27.212.1103636061.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <cq9k6k+sd3g@eGroups.com>


> As a Floridian, I'm a wuss when it comes to cold weather... {looks 
at what
> she's wearing}  Hehe, it's ~50^F and I'm in a t-shirt and 
bottom 'scrubs'
> with no socks.  Might explain why I can't feel my fingers and toes
> (purplish and very cold).  Bleh, kinda contributes to not feeling 
well. 
> Duh!
> 
> I'm going to bury myself under a comforter, a sleeping bag, and one 
of
> those fuzzy blankets to thaw since I don't have working heater or a 
window
> that fully closes. :-)
> 
> Dina

Today in north Texas (near Dallas), it's sunny and the high temp is 
forecast to be in the high 60s. Tomorrow, they are saying it will be 
no higher than 38, with a chance of snow. Then by New Year it will be 
back in the 60s. Just goes to show you that the Bipolar Express of 
Weather runs right through this fine state.
Happy Holidays!
MsTattersall






From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Dec 21 19:09:32 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:09:32 -0000
Subject: .org
Message-ID: <cq9sdc+t4ie@eGroups.com>


It wouldn't let me in on JKRowling.org either.  the do not disturb 
sign was gone, but the door wouldn't open.  Weird.  But it all worked 
fine on Microsoft explorer.
Out of interest its about 4 degrees here (we work in celcius, I have 
no idea what it is in fahrenheit)  Here in my bedroom its 14 degrees, 
58F, but my oil radiator is on.
Its wet and windy forecast for Christmas, but it did snow yesterday.  
We don't get white christmases very often in England.  Scotland 
probably gets more because its further north, although I am fairly 
north in England.
Anyway - here's to July 16th - just in time for my birthday, hurrah!!
Sarah xx






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 21 22:55:49 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:55:49 -0000
Subject: Who has ordered?
Message-ID: <cqa9ll+u4o1@eGroups.com>


It took me a while to get into Amazon but I got my order placed! I 
saw the news in the morning at work and had to wait ALL DAY to get 
home so I could get online and do the order thingy....

Now I can plan my reading list that will get me to July!

Just finished: Steven King's Dark Tower Series 

Planning to read: some more Steven King (since I found out a lot of 
his books are related to the Dark Tower in some way since references 
to the other books kept cropping up)

Also any recommendations on reading till July?

Dudemom_2000

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From redina at silverbloom.net  Tue Dec 21 23:44:06 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:44:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <20041221134055.82534.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2417.4.47.27.212.1103636061.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
    <20041221134055.82534.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3806.4.47.27.212.1103672646.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

Sheryll Townsend said:

> I'm guessing that inviting you up here is out of the
> question, since it's -31 C with the windchill this

{whimpers}

Brrr. {chuckle}

I've only visited northern states like Vermont and New York during the
*summer*.

Dina






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 22 00:13:57 2004
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:13:57 -0000
Subject: Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <cqa9ll+u4o1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqae85+acnr@eGroups.com>


dudemom wrote:

> Just finished: Steven King's Dark Tower Series 
> 
> Planning to read: some more Steven King (since I found out a lot 
of 
> his books are related to the Dark Tower in some way since 
references 
> to the other books kept cropping up)
> 
> Also any recommendations on reading till July?
> 
> Dudemom_2000


I've been meaning to recommend 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell' by 
Suzana Clarke on this board for ages.  Takes a bit of patience to 
get into, but it's big, and good, and fun, and will keep you going 
for a while.  It's an historical fantasy, set around the beginning 
of the 19th century in England, with magicians and fairies and a 
prophecy, and the mysterious Raven King - very much an adult novel.  
It's described in the blurb (amusingly enough) as Harry Potter for 
grown ups.  But that's not really fair, as the style is completely 
different - Harry Potter meets Lord of the Rings meets ... something 
else I can't quite put my finger on.  Beautifully written, a 
plethora of fictional footnotes, and a handy sewn-in bookmark.

Dungrollin
(BTW, hello - I haven't posted on this board before.)






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 00:48:51 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:48:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <cq9aai+rvf5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041222004851.36939.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- davewitley <dfrankiswork at netscape.net> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Sheryll wrote:
> 
> > They
> > keep promising... but we're still
> > waiting. :)
> 
David:
> A condition we are all used to here.  About 7 months
> should do it.
> 
Sheryll again:

The promised warm weather is arriving tomorrow, along
with storm of combined snow and freezing, prompting my
family to all leave earlier than planned for the east
coast. Still, it's only one extra day of being alone
over the holidays. 

Sheryll

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From redina at silverbloom.net  Wed Dec 22 02:54:47 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:54:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Pierced for... Eyeglasses?
Message-ID: <4303.4.47.27.212.1103684087.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20041214.html

Hm, I guess he doesn't have to worry about his glasses sliding down his
nose... or if such a thing did happen, he'd have a serious problem.

Dina,
prefers her removable glasses just fine






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 22 03:20:02 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:20:02 -0000
Subject: Pierced for... Eyeglasses?
In-Reply-To: <4303.4.47.27.212.1103684087.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <cqap52+f4b4@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> 
wrote:
> http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20041214.html
> 
> Hm, I guess he doesn't have to worry about his glasses sliding down 
his
> nose... or if such a thing did happen, he'd have a serious problem.
> 
> Dina,
> prefers her removable glasses just fine

I shudder to think about the ensuing pain when my shildren would yank 
them off my face...

imamommy






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 22 03:22:55 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:22:55 -0000
Subject: Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
Message-ID: <cqapaf+go5h@eGroups.com>


Hey, I thought it would be really fun if list members various areas 
selected one bookstore party to go to on the night of the 15th of 
July.  I would love to meet some of you in the flesh!  I would like 
to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  

imamommy 






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Dec 22 03:45:33 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:45:33 -0800
Subject: Arrested for christmas (nearly)
References: <20041222023820.78747.qmail@web52507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016f01c4e7d8$b2d3e580$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

We had Christmas dinner tonight with
Grandmere whose going away for Yule and
when we got home, we had to park at a
neighbors as the neighbors parked in
front of Grandmere's.  As we were
getting out of the car, the neighbor
asked if we could move our car.  We
explained that since they had parked in
our spot we couldn't and thing started
escalating until people were cursing
and insulting my mother (she's a large
woman) and so on.

Mere got so pissed off she told
Grandmere to call the police because
she (Mere) was going to punch the guy.
I had to haul my mother off the side of
the road and towards the house to stop
everything.

It's sad when you, the hot tempered
hair trigger has to drag your own
parent (normally a mild mannered
doormat) out of a fist fight.

Seems as if we've fulfilled our
tradition of eating, fighting and
having a crappy Yule holiday ahead of
schedule.  *bangs head*
Saitaina
****
I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 04:06:19 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:06:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <cqapaf+go5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041222040619.20472.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>



elady25 <imamommy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hey, I thought it would be really fun if list members various areas 
selected one bookstore party to go to on the night of the 15th of 
July.  I would love to meet some of you in the flesh!  I would like 
to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  

imamommy 



Great Idea!!  I can organize the Atlanta area group if anyone wants to try this!!!

Moonmyyst


		
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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 04:10:33 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:10:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pierced for... Eyeglasses?
In-Reply-To: <4303.4.47.27.212.1103684087.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <20041222041033.11202.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>



Dina Lerret <redina at silverbloom.net> wrote:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20041214.html

Hm, I guess he doesn't have to worry about his glasses sliding down his
nose... or if such a thing did happen, he'd have a serious problem.

Dina,
prefers her removable glasses just fine





Ouch!!  That would really hurt as I have to exchange glasses for 2.5x surgical loupes at work!!!

moonmyyst 


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From caseylane at wideopenwest.com  Wed Dec 22 19:12:25 2004
From: caseylane at wideopenwest.com (Casey)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:12:25 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
Message-ID: <cqcgup+5k8r@eGroups.com>


I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to vote. Can 
someone map it out for me.

Casey






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 21:56:25 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:56:25 -0000
Subject: Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <cqae85+acnr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqcqi9+qc01@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dungrollin" 
<spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
> 
> I've been meaning to recommend 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell' 
by 
> Suzana Clarke on this board for ages.  Takes a bit of patience to 
> get into, but it's big, and good, and fun, and will keep you going 
> for a while.  It's an historical fantasy, set around the beginning 
> of the 19th century in England, with magicians and fairies and a 
> prophecy, and the mysterious Raven King - very much an adult 
novel.  
> It's described in the blurb (amusingly enough) as Harry Potter for 
> grown ups.  But that's not really fair, as the style is completely 
> different - Harry Potter meets Lord of the Rings meets ... 
something else I can't quite put my finger on.  Beautifully written, 
a plethora of fictional footnotes, and a handy sewn-in bookmark.
> 
> Dungrollin
> (BTW, hello - I haven't posted on this board before.)

Welcome to the list Dungrollin! I have read Jonathan Strange and Mr. 
Norrell and just loved it. Very unique book and I hope she writes 
more! Right now I am reading Tad Williams 'Shadowmarch' which seems 
to be pretty good. Someone gave me a gift certificate to Barnes and 
Noble and I might slide by there tomorrow to browse for some more 
reading....possibly 'Shadowmancer'.....

Dudemom_2000 (dreaming of July 16, 2005.......)

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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 21:58:35 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:58:35 -0000
Subject: Pierced for... Eyeglasses?
In-Reply-To: <4303.4.47.27.212.1103684087.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <cqcqmb+nmcq@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> 
wrote:
> http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20041214.html
> 
> Hm, I guess he doesn't have to worry about his glasses sliding 
down his nose... or if such a thing did happen, he'd have a serious 
problem.
> 
> Dina,
> prefers her removable glasses just fine

I cringe to think what a bump to the head might do! Hope he doesn't 
have kids because those things got flailing arms!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 22:04:26 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:04:26 -0000
Subject: Arrested for christmas (nearly)
In-Reply-To: <016f01c4e7d8$b2d3e580$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <cqcr1a+u924@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> We had Christmas dinner tonight with
> Grandmere whose going away for Yule and
> when we got home, we had to park at a
> neighbors as the neighbors parked in
> front of Grandmere's.  As we were
> getting out of the car, the neighbor
> asked if we could move our car.  We
> explained that since they had parked in
> our spot we couldn't and thing started
> escalating until people were cursing
> and insulting my mother (she's a large
> woman) and so on.
> 
> Mere got so pissed off she told
> Grandmere to call the police because
> she (Mere) was going to punch the guy.
> I had to haul my mother off the side of
> the road and towards the house to stop
> everything.
> 
> It's sad when you, the hot tempered
> hair trigger has to drag your own
> parent (normally a mild mannered
> doormat) out of a fist fight.
> 
> Seems as if we've fulfilled our
> tradition of eating, fighting and
> having a crappy Yule holiday ahead of
> schedule.  *bangs head*
> Saitaina
> ****
> I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
> out!
> 
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina
> 
> "No, one day I'm going to look back on
> all this and plow face-first into a
> tree because I was looking the wrong
> bloody way. And I'll still be having a
> better day than I am today."
> 
> 
*****\(@@)/*****

I take it that this parking is in the public street? Because if it 
isn't private property, then the neighbor can park in front of 
Grandmere's house and you can park in front of the neighbor's house. 
Unless a neighborhood has permit parking then you should be able to 
park where you want as long as you aren't blocking driveways and 
curb ramps it is public right of way....At least you can in Ohio.... 
The police would have told the neighbors to suck it up and go inside 
and behave! 

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Dec 22 22:25:17 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:25:17 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Arrested for christmas (nearly)
References: <cqcr1a+u924@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01a301c4e875$1e29f3a0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Dudemom_2000 wrote:

<I take it that this parking is in the
public street?>

Yup.  I still wish they would have let
me call the cops to straighten this
whole thing out before both parties
start shouting at the top of their
lungs..but oh well.

I will admit I wasn't a perfectly
innocent party, as the guy was
screaming and cursing at Mere I wished
him a Happy Christmas just to throw him
off.

Saitaina
****
I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 22:30:16 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:30:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <cqcqi9+qc01@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041222223016.60550.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>



dudemom_2000 <dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dungrollin" 
<spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
> 
> I've been meaning to recommend 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell' 
by 
> Suzana Clarke on this board for ages.  Takes a bit of patience to 
> get into, but it's big, and good, and fun, and will keep you going 
> for a while.  It's an historical fantasy, set around the beginning 
> of the 19th century in England, with magicians and fairies and a 
> prophecy, and the mysterious Raven King - very much an adult 
novel.  
> It's described in the blurb (amusingly enough) as Harry Potter for 
> grown ups.  But that's not really fair, as the style is completely 
> different - Harry Potter meets Lord of the Rings meets ... 
something else I can't quite put my finger on.  Beautifully written, 
a plethora of fictional footnotes, and a handy sewn-in bookmark.
> 
> Dungrollin
> (BTW, hello - I haven't posted on this board before.)

Welcome to the list Dungrollin! I have read Jonathan Strange and Mr. 
Norrell and just loved it. Very unique book and I hope she writes 
more! Right now I am reading Tad Williams 'Shadowmarch' which seems 
to be pretty good. Someone gave me a gift certificate to Barnes and 
Noble and I might slide by there tomorrow to browse for some more 
reading....possibly 'Shadowmancer'.....

Dudemom_2000 (dreaming of July 16, 2005.......)

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I have been reading the Robert Jordan "The Wheel of Time" series.  I found out monday that the next book (#11) will be due out in October.  I am having to read all 10 books and 1 prequel again while waiting.  This is going to be a great reading year for me!!!

 

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Dec 22 22:44:26 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:44:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <20041221144258.85061.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOAEMEDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Well, Monday, it dropped to 8 degrees F here in my part of NJ, with a
windchil of less than zero.  And there was a lot of wind!...a howling,
biting, vicious wind!

Yesterday, the temps moderated into the 30 degree F area with a less vicious
wind.

Today, we hit about 43 F with 50-something F expected tomorrow.  Some rain
is supposed to come our way, too.

And, supposedly for Christmas, the temps go back to the 30's with a
possibility of snow.  Well, we need a white Christmas, I guess.

I hate winter, too, and we're supposed to take a road trip in January which
will land us in Florida.  I do hope the temps moderate by then!!

Bless you all, and have a blessed Christmas!!

Peace,

Lee :-)
(Looking for a hot cider!)

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Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Dec 22 22:52:32 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:52:32 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <cqa9ll+u4o1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEMEDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[dudemom_2000 says]:
| Also any recommendations on reading till July?

Gotta have the Lloyd Alexander books! They're quite wonderful.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 23:09:07 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:09:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's c-c-cold here!
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOAEMEDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <20041222230907.57941.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>



"(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)" <n2fgc at arrl.net> wrote:

I hate winter, too, and we're supposed to take a road trip in January which
will land us in Florida.  I do hope the temps moderate by then!!

Bless you all, and have a blessed Christmas!!

Peace,

Lee :-)
(Looking for a hot cider!)



Lee,

when you are driving down I-75 (if you come that way and not down the coast) and you are just north of atlanta and get to the "Barrett Parkway" exit, wave to your west.... I work about a half mile off of the expressway!!!

Have a safe trip and a very .... white?? christmas!!!

moonmyyst


		
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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 22 23:39:47 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:39:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <007f01c4e0d9$5fe5fe90$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>

I have a question for everyone.
 
How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
 
I asked this question of my 11 year old son last night while we were sitting at the movies waiting for it to start.
All of the previous books, I have read aloud to my kids (they are -now- 22, 19 and 11).  I call my daughter long-distance and put her on speaker phone.  They love it when I do the voices.  I also have some former co-workers who want to be in on the next book.  Well, here is the next book.  I am going to read aloud again.  I want to make something special out of the whole day and night of reading and was hoping to get some ideas.
 
How will each of you be celebrating?  Will you be reading alone?  With others?  A special room?  By candle-light?  Special foods?  Music in the background?  In your bed with the covers over your head and your flashlight out (like at the beginning of POA)?
 
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Thu Dec 23 03:13:12 2004
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:13:12 -0000
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqdd48+10g38@eGroups.com>


As for celebrating the arrival of the book, I'll very likely be at the
midnight release at the local Borders Books, just as I was for OotP. 
Quite an exciting time for everyone in attendance.




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
>  
> I asked this question of my 11 year old son last night while we were
sitting at the movies waiting for it to start.
> All of the previous books, I have read aloud to my kids (they are
-now- 22, 19 and 11).  I call my daughter long-distance and put her on
speaker phone.  They love it when I do the voices.  I also have some
former co-workers who want to be in on the next book.  Well, here is
the next book.  I am going to read aloud again.  I want to make
something special out of the whole day and night of reading and was
hoping to get some ideas.
>  
> How will each of you be celebrating?  Will you be reading alone? 
With others?  A special room?  By candle-light?  Special foods?  Music
in the background?  In your bed with the covers over your head and
your flashlight out (like at the beginning of POA)?
>  
> moonmyyst
> 
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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 03:38:39 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:38:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041223033839.33563.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- K G <moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
>  

My daughter has already requested a copy of HBP for
her birthday - she turns 22 exactly 2 weeks after it's
release. We'll likely do the same thing we did with
OotP, be at a bookstore with friends at midnight,
picking up pre-ordered books, then back to my place
for a book release party. Lots of reading aloud,
accompanied by as much food as we can handle. 

Anyone in the vicinity of Ottawa is welcome to join
us. The more, the merrier!

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From lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 03:27:33 2004
From: lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com (linda williams)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:27:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <cqdd48+10g38@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041223032733.962.qmail@web50708.mail.yahoo.com>


moonmyyst <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?

Joe Bento <joseph at kirtland.com> wrote:
> As for celebrating the arrival of the book, I'll very likely be at 
> the midnight release at the local Borders Books, just as I was for
> OotP. Quite an exciting time for everyone in attendance.


  I will be at the local Borders Books, too, but this time in costume as a Slytherin. I will be fully in the spirit of things at that moment. The last time, I felt left out after seeing how many people came in costume and not 
all, well most were, dressed as Gryffindor students, but I did see a Professor Sprout, a McGonagall, a Dumbledore and a Draco. Maybe I will go as either Narcissa Malfoy or Bellatrix Lestrange. I am currently leaning towards Bellatrix, but I have some time to reflect on it. 
 
  Linda






From swartell at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 04:14:34 2004
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:14:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEMEDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <20041223041434.71395.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>

I've pre-ordered HBP, the first day it was available.
I'll probably do the same as I did for OotP - set
aside the whole day it arrives to dive in and read it.
 First reading will be by myself - I can't bear to
read it outloud, because that is WAY too slow.  I sat
outside in the lovely warm summertime and read for the
whole day.

Sue, in VERY wintery Columbus Ohio, where it is
currently icing, but we have about 4-5 inches of snow
now, and after the ice ends, we're to get another 3 to
8 inches!


		
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Dec 23 04:47:40 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:47:40 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCEMMDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[moonmyyst wants to know]:
|
| How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?

[Lee]:
I'm going to take the lovely new CDs (hoping to get them on time rather than
late!!!) and Art and I will enjoy the company of Jim Dale and his lovely
reading with a drink and maybe some home-made pumpkin something, probably
cuddled on the bed going "OOOO!" or "Aaah!" :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 04:31:22 2004
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:31:22 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqcgup+5k8r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqdhmq+9r7s@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Casey" <caseylane at w...> 
wrote:
> 
> I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to vote. Can 
> someone map it out for me.
> 
> Casey

HI
Just go to FAQ, then on the right you see 'about me' about the 
books", "other stuff" and on the bottom "FAQ SURVEY"
Juli, btw it's my first post here









From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 23 05:21:44 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:21:44 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c4e8af$4b65cc60$0400a8c0@pensive>

Last time, I had two friends over my place for the weekend to read the book.
We went to the store at midnight.  I picked up my audio book, and my friend
picked up her print book.  we went back to my place with hot chocolate and
cookies and started reading the audio book.  We spent the weekend reading.
well, I disappeared when the Umbridge parts got too bad, and I couldn't
handle them--the quill and all.  But we did not much but read that book all
weekend.  I would like to do the same again.  Right now, I live with friends
who have four kids. the mom and 2 or 3 of the kids are big fans, and I've
already talked to them about us all going at midnight to get our books.
I'll also invite a couple friends again to read, read, read!

Sherry


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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:40 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Heralding in the HBP



I have a question for everyone.
 
How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
 
I asked this question of my 11 year old son last night while we were sitting
at the movies waiting for it to start.
All of the previous books, I have read aloud to my kids (they are -now- 22,
19 and 11).  I call my daughter long-distance and put her on speaker phone.
They love it when I do the voices.  I also have some former co-workers who
want to be in on the next book.  Well, here is the next book.  I am going to
read aloud again.  I want to make something special out of the whole day and
night of reading and was hoping to get some ideas.
 
How will each of you be celebrating?  Will you be reading alone?  With
others?  A special room?  By candle-light?  Special foods?  Music in the
background?  In your bed with the covers over your head and your flashlight
out (like at the beginning of POA)?
 
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 23 06:06:51 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:06:51 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?
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As soon as they announce about the audio book, I will be pre-ordering my
copy!  I hope they hurry!

Sherry


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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:15 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?



I've pre-ordered HBP, the first day it was available.
I'll probably do the same as I did for OotP - set
aside the whole day it arrives to dive in and read it.
 First reading will be by myself - I can't bear to
read it outloud, because that is WAY too slow.  I sat
outside in the lovely warm summertime and read for the
whole day.

Sue, in VERY wintery Columbus Ohio, where it is
currently icing, but we have about 4-5 inches of snow
now, and after the ice ends, we're to get another 3 to
8 inches!


		
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From redina at silverbloom.net  Thu Dec 23 07:55:41 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:55:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <003e01c4e8b5$9933a600$0400a8c0@pensive>
References: <20041223041434.71395.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>
    <003e01c4e8b5$9933a600$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <2944.4.47.27.212.1103788541.squirrel@4.47.27.212>

Sherry Gomes said:

> As soon as they announce about the audio book, I will be pre-ordering my
> copy!  I hope they hurry!

Hm, I'll probably buy the book and then... {looks left and right} try
getting the audio version via channels.  There's folks who share their
audiobooks.

I've heard the HP audio books so many times via the Jim Dale narrative to
the point I hear his voice while reading the books.

I have the Stephen Fry copies but only heard PS, which is now no longer
accessible since it's on the computer that's 'broken'...  Err, anyone
wanna chip in $50 for computer repairs? :-)  I'll send over copies of
Stephen Fry's HP readings (or at least four with the first book pending
since it's trapped on my PC)?  Heh, a gal's gotta try.  It figures I lose
my job and my computer goes AWOL too.

Hey, if JKR is on HPFGU, think I can do an 'alms for the poor'?  LOL!  If
she can find me a job, I'd pay her back of course.

Dina





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 23 07:59:25 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:59:25 -0000
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <003a01c4e8af$4b65cc60$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cqdtst+jcqh@eGroups.com>


I will probably go get the book at midnight, and then hole up by 
myself for the twenty hour or so reading marathon (I read fast; I had 
OOP finished in twenty-four hours and that was with taking off a few 
hours for a church picnic and a few hours for an impromptu date w/ my 
hubby).  Daddy already knows he is going to need to keep the kids 
occupied.  Then when I'm finished with the first read, I'll pass the 
book over to him.  He's already planning to take a couple vacation 
days to read it.  

The ideas of parties everyone has are so great; I just don't know if 
I would have the patience for reading out loud together.

My brother-in-law and his wife have a deal where they read it 
together, because she has a learning disability that prevents her 
from reading very much.  And one family I know read OOP together for 
an hour or two each night until they were finished.

imamommy






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 23 08:12:08 2004
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:12:08 -0000
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <003a01c4e8af$4b65cc60$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cqduko+i7k6@eGroups.com>



> From: K G 
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
>  


I'm feeling really sick about this.  I'm going to be in Africa 
*again*.  I'll get Amazon to send a copy to Abidjan, but the postal 
system out there is ... unusual.  Letters can take anywhere from a 
couple of weeks to a year to get there from Europe.  And if the post 
office workers are on strike, then sometimes, rather than working 
through the backlog of letters that inevitably occurs, they just 
have a bonfire.  I was away on fieldwork when OotP came out too, 
this time I'll be living there.  Just biting my nails impatiently 
and forcing myself not to even *think* about looking at the board 
and reading any of the posts, until that bloody parcel arrives... 

Damn damn damn damn damn.  

Dungrollin.







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 11:03:05 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:03:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <cqdtst+jcqh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041223110305.78803.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- elady25 <imamommy at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> 
<snip>
> The ideas of parties everyone has are so great; I
> just don't know if 
> I would have the patience for reading out loud
> together.
> 
<snip>

Sheryll:

I know what you mean. I'm a fairly quick reader so
reading aloud seems very slow to me, too. For me, the
slowness of reading aloud is well compensated by the
shared experience. There's something very satisfying
about having everyone ooh, aah and laugh together at
the same spots. 

With OotP, we started out reading aloud. By mid-day
Saturday, after we'd had some sleep, breakfast and
more reading, everyone started having to wander off to
various other commitments and the rest of started
reading on our own. I'd have had to book days off work
to read the whole thing aloud!

Sheryll

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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 14:44:48 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:44:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041223032733.962.qmail@web50708.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041223144448.34212.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>



linda williams <lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com> wrote:

moonmyyst <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?

Joe Bento <joseph at kirtland.com> wrote:
> As for celebrating the arrival of the book, I'll very likely be at 
> the midnight release at the local Borders Books, just as I was for
> OotP. Quite an exciting time for everyone in attendance.


  I will be at the local Borders Books, too, but this time in costume as a Slytherin. I will be fully in the spirit of things at that moment. The last time, I felt left out after seeing how many people came in costume and not 
all, well most were, dressed as Gryffindor students, but I did see a Professor Sprout, a McGonagall, a Dumbledore and a Draco. Maybe I will go as either Narcissa Malfoy or Bellatrix Lestrange. I am currently leaning towards Bellatrix, but I have some time to reflect on it. 

  Linda





What I am talking about is - not the purchase of the book - because most of us will be doing exectly what you mentioned - but the actual READING of the book.

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 23 14:52:06 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:52:06 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <2944.4.47.27.212.1103788541.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
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oh, if I could get a hard copy in braille on the first day, I'd wait to get
the audio till later.  But since the braille doesn't usually come out till
about 3 weeks later, well, I can't wait that long.  Have to get the audio
right away.  I'm like you.  Even if I'm reading my braille copies, I hear
Jim Dale in my head!  It becomes sort of a mixture of my own imagination's
voice of the characters and Jim's.  Interestingly, I don't hear the actors'
voices when I read the books.  Sometimes, maybe, Alan Rickman for Snape, but
not even really that.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Dina Lerret [mailto:redina at silverbloom.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:56 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Who has ordered?



Sherry Gomes said:

> As soon as they announce about the audio book, I will be pre-ordering my
> copy!  I hope they hurry!

Hm, I'll probably buy the book and then... {looks left and right} try
getting the audio version via channels.  There's folks who share their
audiobooks.

I've heard the HP audio books so many times via the Jim Dale narrative to
the point I hear his voice while reading the books.

I have the Stephen Fry copies but only heard PS, which is now no longer
accessible since it's on the computer that's 'broken'...  Err, anyone
wanna chip in $50 for computer repairs? :-)  I'll send over copies of
Stephen Fry's HP readings (or at least four with the first book pending
since it's trapped on my PC)?  Heh, a gal's gotta try.  It figures I lose
my job and my computer goes AWOL too.

Hey, if JKR is on HPFGU, think I can do an 'alms for the poor'?  LOL!  If
she can find me a job, I'd pay her back of course.

Dina





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From sroginson at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 23 17:01:19 2004
From: sroginson at sbcglobal.net (stephen)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:01:19 -0000
Subject: Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <20041222040619.20472.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqetkv+qnaq@eGroups.com>


> imamommy <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> 
> Hey, I thought it would be really fun if list members various areas 
> selected one bookstore party to go to on the night of the 15th of 
> July.  I would love to meet some of you in the flesh!  I would like 
> to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
> area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  


Let me know where you are planning - I'm Royal Oak area, and would 
definitely be interested in attending!










From bethanycurrie at aol.com  Thu Dec 23 17:17:53 2004
From: bethanycurrie at aol.com (curriebethany)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:17:53 -0000
Subject: HP Fan Trip 2005
Message-ID: <cqeuk1+ue5b@eGroups.com>



Anyone else going to Scotland on the HP fan trip next summer?  I'm so 
excited that HBP will be out two weeks before we go so everyone will 
have things to talk about (like that's EVER been a problem!!).
--Bethany









From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 22:29:12 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:29:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP Fan Trip 2005
In-Reply-To: <cqeuk1+ue5b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041223222912.99342.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>



curriebethany <bethanycurrie at aol.com> wrote:


Anyone else going to Scotland on the HP fan trip next summer?  I'm so 
excited that HBP will be out two weeks before we go so everyone will 
have things to talk about (like that's EVER been a problem!!).
--Bethany



My daughter and I were planning to go to Scotland, Ireland and Wales in summer 2006 to tour the castles (and she wants to go to a good Irish Pub!!)  This would be a fun group to go with since we are both such huge fans.  Could you send me info on how to find out how to be included in?

Thanks

moonmyyst


		
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From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 24 01:43:56 2004
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:43:56 -0000
Subject: HP Fan Trip 2005
In-Reply-To: <cqeuk1+ue5b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqfs8s+6b0v@eGroups.com>


????? Is there information on this somewhere? Sounds like fun, 
definitely something that I would like to do, but I won't get my 
hopes up the last time I planned for something like this it fell 
through so...



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "curriebethany" 
<bethanycurrie at a...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anyone else going to Scotland on the HP fan trip next summer?  I'm 
so 
> excited that HBP will be out two weeks before we go so everyone 
will 
> have things to talk about (like that's EVER been a problem!!).
> --Bethany






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 23 23:30:43 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:30:43 -0000
Subject: Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <cqetkv+qnaq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqfkf3+9nri@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "stephen" <sroginson at s...> 
wrote:
> 
> > imamommy <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey, I thought it would be really fun if list members various 
areas 
> > selected one bookstore party to go to on the night of the 15th of 
> > July.  I would love to meet some of you in the flesh!  I would 
like 
> > to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
> > area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  
> 
> 
> Let me know where you are planning - I'm Royal Oak area, and would 
> definitely be interested in attending!

Well, Stephen, so far you are the only one in the immediate area to 
respond.  There seems to be a rather active fan group in Grand 
Rapids; I think they have monthly meetings and everything, but that's 
kind of far for me to go.

Anyone else in the Detroit area want to get together for fun and 
games the evening of the 15th of July?

imamommy






From golden_faile at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 24 01:29:56 2004
From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:29:56 -0000
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041222233947.5462.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqfrek+ipm5@eGroups.com>


 I have a nice game/reading room with great big ol' cushions. The 
kids and I will be reading on the floor surrounded by cushions and 
all cozy. 

laila


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> I have a question for everyone.
>  
> How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
>  
> I asked this question of my 11 year old son last night while we 
were sitting at the movies waiting for it to start.
> All of the previous books, I have read aloud to my kids (they are -
now- 22, 19 and 11).  I call my daughter long-distance and put her 
on speaker phone.  They love it when I do the voices.  I also have 
some former co-workers who want to be in on the next book.  Well, 
here is the next book.  I am going to read aloud again.  I want to 
make something special out of the whole day and night of reading and 
was hoping to get some ideas.
>  
> How will each of you be celebrating?  Will you be reading alone?  
With others?  A special room?  By candle-light?  Special foods?  
Music in the background?  In your bed with the covers over your head 
and your flashlight out (like at the beginning of POA)?
>  
> moonmyyst
> 
> 		
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
>  Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






From caseylane at wideopenwest.com  Fri Dec 24 02:09:25 2004
From: caseylane at wideopenwest.com (Casey)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:09:25 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqdhmq+9r7s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqftol+mnni@eGroups.com>


Hi Juli and thanks. What I needed to know is how do I vote?

Casey



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Casey" <caseylane at w...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to vote. 
Can 
> > someone map it out for me.
> > 
> > Casey
> 
> HI
> Just go to FAQ, then on the right you see 'about me' about the 
> books", "other stuff" and on the bottom "FAQ SURVEY"
> Juli, btw it's my first post here






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 23 23:59:14 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:59:14 -0000
Subject: Baby, it's cold outside (and in)!
Message-ID: <cqfm4i+o7r2@eGroups.com>


Columbus, Ohio is digging out after a snow event! I just got power 
back after about 14 hours. We had snow, then lots of ice, then snow. 
Other areas got a lot more snow than we did. One of our suburbs has 
3/4 of the population without power. I think we were very lucky 
because the house temperature got down to about 54 degrees before 
the electric came back (also good insulation helped!). Needless to 
say, I was not thrilled to get in touch with my inner cave woman! I 
looked out in the predawn hours and saw what I thought were 
lightening flashes but I got told later they were lines and 
transformers blowing up. The police couldn't even get their cruisers 
out of the substation - there were pictures of people pushing the 
cruisers out of the snow too!

Hoping others escaped the wrath of Weathermort....

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From Ali at zymurgy.org  Fri Dec 24 13:52:58 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:52:58 -0000
Subject: HP Fan Trip 2005
In-Reply-To: <cqfs8s+6b0v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqh6vq+pt1i@eGroups.com>


golden_faile wrote:
 
> ????? Is there information on this somewhere? Sounds like fun, 
> definitely something that I would like to do, but I won't get my 
> hopes up the last time I planned for something like this it fell 
> through so...

HP Fan Trips are promoting Accio UK as the two coincide with one 
another. If you go to the Accio website http://www.accio.org.uk/ you 
will find a button on the right hand side of the home page which 
will take you directly to the Fan Trip site. You might also like to 
look around Accio at the same time.

Regards,

Ali

Summoning you all to Accio 29th - 31st July 2005 
http://www.accio.org.uk/









From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Dec 24 15:55:49 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:55:49 -0500
Subject: Merry Christmas!...and mine started early.
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCENJDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Hey Y'all, :-)

Happy Christmas!  And I got mine started a couple of days ago with a lovely
little package containing a wand from Alivans.com, as well as a candy
assortment from same place and a couple of patches (Hogwarts and Gryffindor)
and, of course, a wand care kit. :-)  And those Bertie Bott's every-flavor
beans really are! Can we say Vomit and Earwax? :-)

And then, another little package came in with The Chamber Of Secrets in
Descriptive Video VHS.  So, Art and I sat with a few Berties watching
DVS-COS.  What a great way to start off Christmas early!

Tonight, Art and I are picking up my brother, John, and we'll head to my
other brother, Tracey and his wife and pig out on good food, exchange
gifties, etc.

Christmas day promises to be a quiet one...save for the fact I've got some
master learning tapes to make for Art's Barbershop chorus...but that should
be quick work--I hope!!

Anyway, I lift a prayer for those who've been power-deprived with all the
bad weather, and hope the Christmas owls treat you all well. :-)

Now...if only we had some wizard crackers... :-)

Again, Happy Merry Christmas!

Peace,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Fri Dec 24 15:45:13 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:45:13 -0000
Subject: Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <cqapaf+go5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqhdi9+s5rr@eGroups.com>


imamommy wrote:

>   I would like 
> to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
> area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  
> 
Do you know about

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes/ ?

David








From gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx  Fri Dec 24 19:57:52 2004
From: gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx (Gabriela)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:57:52 -0000
Subject: Merry Christmas!...and mine started early.
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCENJDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <cqhsc0+68tv@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is 
The Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:

  > Anyway, I lift a prayer for those who've been power-deprived 
with all the
> bad weather, and hope the Christmas owls treat you all well. :-)
> 
> Now...if only we had some wizard crackers... :-)
> 
> Again, Happy Merry Christmas!
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Lee :-)


Happy Christmas everyone!

And those of you who don't celebrate Christmas have a wonderful day 
too ;). I awoke this morning finding everything covered in snow; for 
me this has been great because it last snowed 4 years ago and it has 
been more since it snowed in Christmas Eve. The sky has cleared now 
and we are around 2?C. Anyway it looks like we're going to have a 
good day, my sisters are coming over with their husbands and 
daughters, my grandparents (by the way Grandma is a big HP fan, she 
turned 90 a month ago)will be here too. We are going to eat A LOT 
too: we're having stuffed turkey, raviolli, romeritos (a typical 
mexican Christmas dish made with mole and shrimp) and cod with 
tomato and olives. My best wishes to all of you for 2005, and may 
July 16 come real soon. 

Cheers,

Gabriela






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Dec 24 20:02:30 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:02:30 -0500
Subject: Merry Christmas!...and mine started early.
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEENLDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Hey Y'all, :-)

Happy Christmas!  And I got mine started a couple of days ago with a lovely
little package containing a wand from Alivans.com, as well as a candy
assortment from same place and a couple of patches (Hogwarts and Gryffindor)
and, of course, a wand care kit. :-)  And those Bertie Bott's every-flavor
beans really are! Can we say Vomit and Earwax? :-)

And then, another little package came in with The Chamber Of Secrets in
Descriptive Video VHS.  So, Art and I sat with a few Berties watching
DVS-COS.  What a great way to start off Christmas early!

Tonight, Art and I are picking up my brother, John, and we'll head to my
other brother, Tracey and his wife and pig out on good food, exchange
gifties, etc.

Christmas day promises to be a quiet one...save for the fact I've got some
master learning tapes to make for Art's Barbershop chorus...but that should
be quick work--I hope!!

Anyway, I lift a prayer for those who've been power-deprived with all the
bad weather, and hope the Christmas owls treat you all well. :-)

Now...if only we had some wizard crackers... :-)

Again, Happy Merry Christmas!

Peace,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me;    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 25 05:18:33 2004
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:18:33 -0500
Subject: Jaffa Cakes
References: <1103808537.1642.56854.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4ea41$37c5f2f0$705179a5@leeannlaptop>

Merry Christmas to all. My wonderful friend Sam, whom I was blessed to meet 
via this group, sent us a box of Jaffa Cakes! Boy are they yummy.
Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
Leeann
Who doesn't thing she can wait until July 




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec 25 03:31:11 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:31:11 -0000
Subject: Apparition point for Detroit area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <cqhdi9+s5rr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqimtv+4hrf@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley" 
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> 
> imamommy wrote:
> 
> >   I would like 
> > to set up an "apparition point" for those of us in the Detroit 
> > area...if anyone is interested, please let me know.  
> > 
> Do you know about
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-GreatLakes/ ?
> 
> David

Yes, and no one ha answered my post there, either.

imamommy






From tinainfay at msn.com  Sat Dec 25 04:44:25 2004
From: tinainfay at msn.com (mrs_sonofgib)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:44:25 -0000
Subject: Heralding in the HBP
In-Reply-To: <20041223032733.962.qmail@web50708.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqir79+gnqu@eGroups.com>




> moonmyyst <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> > I have a question for everyone.
> >  
> > How will you herald in the Half-Blood Prince?
> 
> Joe Bento <joseph at k...> wrote:
> > As for celebrating the arrival of the book, I'll very likely be at 
> > the midnight release at the local Borders Books, just as I was for
> > OotP. Quite an exciting time for everyone in attendance.
> 
> 
>   I will be at the local Borders Books, too, but this time in
costume as a Slytherin. I will be fully in the spirit of things at
that moment. The last time, I felt left out after seeing how many
people came in costume and not 
> all, well most were, dressed as Gryffindor students, but I did see a
Professor Sprout, a McGonagall, a Dumbledore and a Draco. Maybe I will
go as either Narcissa Malfoy or Bellatrix Lestrange. I am currently
leaning towards Bellatrix, but I have some time to reflect on it. 
>  
>   Linda
This will be my first time getting the book when it comes out!  I just
found HP about a year ago (last Christmas I was listening to OotP
while my in-laws were here and couldn't wait for them to go to bed
because I was in the middle of the MoM scene!!).  I'll definitely be
going to the bookstore at midnight.  I'll probably just read until
sleeps overwhelms me and then wake to read some more!  I can't wait
and have much respect for those who have gone through the waiting
process before.  How in the world did you make it between GoF and OotP?!  
Merry Christmas to those of you celebrating!
~tina, who is now wondering if she should go in costume...









From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 25 07:57:58 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:57:58 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqftol+mnni@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqj6i6+lmup@eGroups.com>


Casey wrote:
> > > I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to 
vote. Can someone map it out for me.
> > > 


Valky:
You must be veiwing the text only version of the site. 
Only the flash version enables you to vote and has all the bonus 
miscellany, such as the locked door.

OTOH If you *are* veiwing the flash version, then quite possibly 
someone else has already voted using the computer and internet 
service you are using. The site caches a record of the stuff you 
have already collected and done at the site. Two things you can do 
if this is the case: 

1 register your vote using someone elses computer, someone who 
*hasn't* voted, and isn't going to.  

or 2. if you use a second backup isp (internet service.. ie if you 
have cable *and* dial up) log in to your second one and use it to 
register your vote.

Hope that helps.
Merry Christmas 
from Valky









From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 25 08:05:17 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:05:17 -0000
Subject: Baby, it's cold outside (and in)!
In-Reply-To: <cqfm4i+o7r2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqj6vt+o9ga@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" 
<dudemom_2000 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Columbus, Ohio is digging out after a snow event! I just got power 
> back after about 14 hours. We had snow, then lots of ice, then 
snow. 
> Hoping others escaped the wrath of Weathermort....
> 
> Dudemom_2000
> 

Valky LOL:
What a night! And so different to my christmas marked down to be 
remembered as my sweatiest christmas day ever!! Its sweltering here 
in Queensland Australia. 









From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 25 17:58:23 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:58:23 -0000
Subject: Baby, it's cold outside (and in)!
In-Reply-To: <cqj6vt+o9ga@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqk9nv+dl27@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" 
<valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" 
> <dudemom_2000 at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Columbus, Ohio is digging out after a snow event! I just got 
power back after about 14 hours. We had snow, then lots of ice, then 
> snow. 
> > Hoping others escaped the wrath of Weathermort....
> > 
> > Dudemom_2000
> > 
> 
> Valky LOL:
> What a night! And so different to my christmas marked down to be 
> remembered as my sweatiest christmas day ever!! Its sweltering 
here 
> in Queensland Australia.

*****\(@@)/*****

I had it easy since I got the power back on after only 14 hours! We 
still have about 200,000 people without it. They are hoping to have 
it on by tomorrow. Ah, the vagaries of winter....

Dudemom_2000

(who has unwrapped her gifts and is drinking her coffee and Baileys 
and watching the cats play with their gifts)

*****\(@@)/*****






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 25 20:57:07 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:57:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Merry Christmas!...and mine started early.
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEENLDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <20041225205707.67847.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>




Hey Y'all, :-)

Happy Christmas!

Christmas day promises to be a quiet one...save for the fact I've got some
master learning tapes to make for Art's Barbershop chorus...but that should
be quick work--I hope!!

Anyway, I lift a prayer for those who've been power-deprived with all the
bad weather, and hope the Christmas owls treat you all well. :-)

Now...if only we had some wizard crackers... :-)

Again, Happy Merry Christmas!

Peace,

Lee :-)



Merry Christmas group!!

we started our's last night with my extended family.  We had strawberries dipped in chocolate, shrimp coctail, sausage balls, and red velvet cake.  Everyone laughed and had a great time.

today our close family (my mom and dad, me, my two sons) got together and had Honey Baked Ham, turkey, potato salad, candied yams, and all.  Now I am sitting here digesting food and listening to my youngest son play with the gown, gloves, etc that I brought him home from our lab at work.  He is playing doctor (and I am afraid to see which sheltie is his latest patient- the scarry thing is they are all waiting in line to see who is next!!).

I hope everyone had a very Harry Christmas or just a nice day in general!!

moonmyyst


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From caseylane at wideopenwest.com  Sat Dec 25 22:13:29 2004
From: caseylane at wideopenwest.com (Casey)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:13:29 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqj6i6+lmup@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqkom9+gsrr@eGroups.com>


I must be using the flash version because I can open the door and 
find all of the ingredients to get the extra's. I looked on my own 
computer (not used by anyone else) and didn't see a place to vote. I 
could just read the questions on the page.

Casey

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" 
<valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:
> 
> Casey wrote:
> > > > I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to 
> vote. Can someone map it out for me.
> > > > 
> 
> 
> Valky:
> You must be veiwing the text only version of the site. 
> Only the flash version enables you to vote and has all the bonus 
> miscellany, such as the locked door.
> 
> OTOH If you *are* veiwing the flash version, then quite possibly 
> someone else has already voted using the computer and internet 
> service you are using. The site caches a record of the stuff you 
> have already collected and done at the site. Two things you can do 
> if this is the case: 
> 
> 1 register your vote using someone elses computer, someone who 
> *hasn't* voted, and isn't going to.  
> 
> or 2. if you use a second backup isp (internet service.. ie if you 
> have cable *and* dial up) log in to your second one and use it to 
> register your vote.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Merry Christmas 
> from Valky






From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sat Dec 25 23:47:22 2004
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:47:22 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqkom9+gsrr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEFDCEAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Casey

I've already voted but I think I just moved the curser over the questions
and clicked. then it takes you to a page that asks you if you are sure that
is your selection and you choose and wacko what do you know it's all done.

storm, in Sydney where is it finally sunny but cool at 68F/20C and Terrance
Trent Darby is on the television. What a poser!

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey [mailto:caseylane at wideopenwest.com]
Sent: Sunday, 26 December 2004 9:13 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question About JKR Polls




I must be using the flash version because I can open the door and
find all of the ingredients to get the extra's. I looked on my own
computer (not used by anyone else) and didn't see a place to vote. I
could just read the questions on the page.

Casey

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford"
<valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:
>
> Casey wrote:
> > > > I see the polls on her site but don't know where to go to
> vote. Can someone map it out for me.
> > > >
>
>
> Valky:
> You must be veiwing the text only version of the site.
> Only the flash version enables you to vote and has all the bonus
> miscellany, such as the locked door.
>
> OTOH If you *are* veiwing the flash version, then quite possibly
> someone else has already voted using the computer and internet
> service you are using. The site caches a record of the stuff you
> have already collected and done at the site. Two things you can do
> if this is the case:
>
> 1 register your vote using someone elses computer, someone who
> *hasn't* voted, and isn't going to.
>
> or 2. if you use a second backup isp (internet service.. ie if you
> have cable *and* dial up) log in to your second one and use it to
> register your vote.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Merry Christmas
> from Valky






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From editor at texas.net  Sun Dec 26 01:35:51 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:35:51 -0600
Subject: Best HP gift
Message-ID: <003c01c4eaed$3ade1c40$ca58aacf@texas.net>

Okay, this was the best. The absolute best.

There was a package for me, a purple one, under our tree. Jan got his stuff
wrapped and under there last night, and I only saw it today as I was
refereeing the unwrapping melee. It was labeled "The Leaky Cauldron." Hm.

And when I got a turn to unwrap, I was handed this package. And I opened it.
To find an extra-deep, three-footed....


ready?



heavy-duty, stainless steel....





*COLANDER.*


Leaky cauldron indeed..! It *looks* like a cauldron, it really does, I have
no idea where he found it, and there I am absolutely *dying* on the couch,
and Jan over there with one of those rare little elfin smiles he gets.

I will never be able to look at this without laughing. And we *did* need
one, in fact, I'd been using one of my mother's that is, I think, older than
I am, missing one handle and the other very loose.

That may even beat the Knight Bus lego set that my daughter gave me.

~Amanda

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From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun Dec 26 02:30:09 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:30:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: My mom *had* an aluminum tree!!
Message-ID: <3325.4.47.27.205.1104028209.squirrel@4.47.27.205>

I just heard my mom *had* one of those aluminum Christmas trees from over
thirty-five years ago... Y'all, those things are going for $500-1000 now
if they're in good shape!  One of those 'should've kept it' moments. :-\

Hm, I think I sort of remember it from many years ago.

Dina







From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 26 05:02:24 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 26 Dec 2004 05:02:24 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1104037344.14.77951.m25@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 26, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Dec 26 05:10:50 2004
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:10:50 -0000
Subject: Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <2944.4.47.27.212.1103788541.squirrel@4.47.27.212>
Message-ID: <cqlh4q+6dpu@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> wrote:
> Sherry Gomes said:
> 
> > As soon as they announce about the audio book, I will be
pre-ordering my
> > copy!  I hope they hurry!
> 

I preordered in-store at my local Borders in Provo, Utah so I could
also receive the invitation to attend their midnight release,
guaranteeing a place in the long queue.  (People without the
invitation have to wait at the end of the line to purchase.) They
already had the invites printed for people who preorder the book.

I also preordered on amazon.co.uk so I am guaranteed a Bloomsbury
release when published.  I always enjoy reading the UK editions
following the "translated" American.  However, the differences in
editions have been far fewer since ss/ps.

Joe







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Dec 26 07:57:04 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 02:57:04 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Best HP gift
In-Reply-To: <003c01c4eaed$3ade1c40$ca58aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEOJDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Amanda! I love that!!!! <LOL!>

Enjoy your leaky cauldron, my dear.  Now, that sounds like something my Art
would do, too. :-)

Grinning,

Lee :-)

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From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 12:30:46 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:30:46 -0000
Subject: Question About JKR Polls
In-Reply-To: <cqkom9+gsrr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqmatm+dmre@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Casey" <caseylane at w...> 
wrote:
> 
> I must be using the flash version because I can open the door and 
> find all of the ingredients to get the extra's. I looked on my own 
> computer (not used by anyone else) and didn't see a place to vote. 
I 
> could just read the questions on the page.
> 
> Casey

If you can see the voting statistics on the left hand side of the 
questions then a vote has been entered using your ip address, if you 
can't see them then running your mouse over each question should 
highlight it. 

If a vote is registered in your ipaddress, and you, personally, 
haven't voted there could be any number of reasons why, maybe you 
should email lightmaker. In the meantime if that is the case you can 
still register a vote using another computer.

good luck
I voted for the Ron question,
from Valky







From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 12:39:04 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:39:04 -0000
Subject: My mom *had* an aluminum tree!!
In-Reply-To: <3325.4.47.27.205.1104028209.squirrel@4.47.27.205>
Message-ID: <cqmbd8+a09p@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...>
wrote:
> I just heard my mom *had* one of those aluminum Christmas trees
from over thirty-five years ago... Y'all, those things are going for
$500-1000 now if they're in good shape! One of those 'should've
kept it' moments. :-\
>
> Hm, I think I sort of remember it from many years ago.
>
> Dina

Oh you're kidding right!? My family had one of those when I was very
young, ironically we only had it because we were very poor and were
GLAD to be rid of it, and the stigma of having a DAGGY old aluminium
tree in THE 1980's !!!!

much head shaking
Valky







From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun Dec 26 13:11:32 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 08:11:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My mom *had* an aluminum tree!!
In-Reply-To: <cqmb6t+b99p@eGroups.com>
References: <3325.4.47.27.205.1104028209.squirrel@4.47.27.205>
    <cqmb6t+b99p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3768.4.47.27.205.1104066692.squirrel@4.47.27.205>

M.Clifford said:

> Oh you're kidding right!?

Nope, not kidding. :-(

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6746287/

I saw this on my local news station and my brother brought it up during
Christmas dinner but he saw another report saying a different person paid
$500.  You can imagine the 'jaw dropping' at the realization a possible
revenue of hundreds of dollars was simply... *trashed*.


> young, ironically we only had it because we were very poor and were

Ditto here.  Poor family and they were cheap decades ago.

Dina





From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 13:45:52 2004
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:45:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Remind me again when's Harry's birthday
Message-ID: <20041226134552.71714.qmail@web54506.mail.yahoo.com>

26Dec04
 
Hello everyone,
 
Wishing all a happy holiday season.
 
Hooray, hooray!  Now we finally know when the new HP book is coming out.  16July, right.  Will someone please remind me, this is Harry's B-day, right?  Where was Harry born?  Was it indeed Goderick's Hollow?  Have always been curious about Harry's astrological profile.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Happy Holidays again,
~Paula Gaon



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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 14:25:14 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 06:25:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] FYI - The Door
In-Reply-To: <20041226134552.71714.qmail@web54506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041226142514.38745.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>



Just FYI--
The door on JKR's site is now closed and the sign is back.
 
I do not see any other changes off hand.  The Christmas decorations are still there.
 
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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 14:30:23 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 06:30:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Remind me again when's Harry's birthday
In-Reply-To: <20041226134552.71714.qmail@web54506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041226143023.68507.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>



Paula Gaon <paulag5777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
26Dec04

Hello everyone,

Wishing all a happy holiday season.

Hooray, hooray!  Now we finally know when the new HP book is coming out.  16July, right.  Will someone please remind me, this is Harry's B-day, right?  Where was Harry born?  Was it indeed Goderick's Hollow?  Have always been curious about Harry's astrological profile.

Thanks for any help.

Happy Holidays again,
~Paula Gaon



July 31, 1980 and as far as I know there is no canon that says the exact location of Harry's birth.  Hope that helps.

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From spin01 at aol.com  Sun Dec 26 15:08:13 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:08:13 -0000
Subject: My mom *had* an aluminum tree!!
In-Reply-To: <3768.4.47.27.205.1104066692.squirrel@4.47.27.205>
Message-ID: <cqmk4t+80i0@eGroups.com>


We also had one of those trees in the early 70's.  the ones with the 
silver stringly sort of branches right.  And here is the tacky kicker 
if ever there was one.  we had a light that sat under it and shined 
up on it that had a colored wheel that turned so the whole thing went 
from red to green to yellow to blue.  OMG.  how could anone have 
liked that?  but my mom did.  so it was our tree for a couple of 
years.  it was the same time that blacklights and fiber optic stuff 
was just starting to become the rage.  well black lights had been 
around but i also remember her having this round ball with little 
plastic threads sticking out.  when on the ends of the threads were 
lit up and would glow.  (my mom was only 17 yrs older than me so was 
pretty cool when I was younger.  She listened to rock music which my 
friends all though was so cool.now I am 43 and she is only 61 and we 
are the best of friends.  
sherry  I still have to laugh at some of her decorting choices 
though) 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> 
wrote:
> M.Clifford said:
> 
> > Oh you're kidding right!?
> 
> Nope, not kidding. :-(
> 
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6746287/
> 
> I saw this on my local news station and my brother brought it up 
during
> Christmas dinner but he saw another report saying a different 
person paid
> $500.  You can imagine the 'jaw dropping' at the realization a 
possible
> revenue of hundreds of dollars was simply... *trashed*.
> 
> 
> > young, ironically we only had it because we were very poor and 
were
> 
> Ditto here.  Poor family and they were cheap decades ago.
> 
> Dina






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Dec 26 16:02:18 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 26 Dec 2004 16:02:18 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1104076938.710.74057.m14@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, December 26, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.  To get there, go into any Yahoo
chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'.

Hope to see you there! 

 





From maritajan at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 20:55:56 2004
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:55:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Apparition point for Nashville area HPFGU members
In-Reply-To: <cqimtv+4hrf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041226205556.38299.qmail@web12108.mail.yahoo.com>

I don't know how many of you are in the Nashville, TN area, but it would
be great fun to meet in line the night of the 15th!

If you're interested, email back!

MJ



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From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Dec 26 21:03:33 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:03:33 -0000
Subject: aluminium Christmas Trees
Message-ID: <cqn8v5+rq8o@eGroups.com>


Dina wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/25458 :

<< I just heard my mom *had* one of those aluminum Christmas trees
from over thirty-five years ago... Y'all, those things are going for
$500-1000 now if they're in good shape! One of those 'should've kept
it' moments. :-\ >>

and in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/25465 :

<< You can imagine the 'jaw dropping' at the realization a possible
revenue of hundreds of dollars was simply... *trashed*. >>

It's like the old comic books that every middle-aged man whines that
his mother threw away when he was a kid: they're only valuable now
because they're rare, and they're only rare now because most people
who had them have thrown them away. If everyone had kept theirs (in a
storage locker?) to wait for the price to go up, the price wouldn't
have gone up.

Erin wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/25469 :

<< we had a light that sat under it and shined up on it that had a
colored wheel that turned so the whole thing went from red to green to
yellow to blue. OMG. how could anone have liked that? >>

We also had one of those (it was my brother's idea -- he is two years
younger than me), but we had a, y'know, *biological* tree (not "live"
because it was chopped) and the light wheel didn't have much effect on
it, not even on the "silver" tinsel.

<< i also remember her having this round ball with little plastic
threads sticking out. when on the ends of the threads were lit up and
would glow. >>

Half-round, right? A fiber-optics light show, where the glow at the
tips of the fibers changes because of a secret color wheel over the
light bulb hidden in the base. I have one of those, too, but it has,
alas, been in storage a very long time, as certain cats insisted on
"hunting" the fibers ... 








From seuferer at netins.net  Sun Dec 26 23:30:57 2004
From: seuferer at netins.net (shanti_50130)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:30:57 -0000
Subject: Haunted Chambers, a Harry Potter RPG run by adults
Message-ID: <cqnhjh+a7og@eGroups.com>


Haunted Chambers, a RPG run by adults.

A new Harry Potter role-playing game owned and administrated by adults
is now open and recruiting for good, strong role-players.  The board
is BOOK canon-friendly, though it does allow and even welcome
well-thought-out original characters.  Applicants are screened
thoroughly for book knowledge and a good, solid grasp of their
characters.  Film knowledge alone will not get you past the initial
screening phase.

There are many, many Harry Potter role-playing games out there. 
However, it seems that many of these, perhaps even most of them, are
run by later teens to early young-adults.  These `kids' are very
creative, very imaginative, but also in a very exciting, transient
time of their lives, so that their games often end quickly and
unexpectedly.  After playing in dozens of games that seem to fizzle
and die prematurely for various reasons, this administration team
banded together to create this game, taking the best of features from
others we have played upon and hopefully avoiding some of the pitfalls.

The primary focus is character development and interaction.  We have
several forums allowing our players to explore their character in
different time periods, from MWPP era to present-day.  We are just now
beginning to move into Harry's 6th year and `uncharted' territory in
canon.  We have a very active Wizarding World, outside of Hogwarts,
and encourage adult characters as well as the students.

The game is loosely plot-driven.  Albus Dumbledore, Cornelius Fudge,
and Lord Voldemort are run by the administration team, as well as
Daily Prophet articles.  These characters are used as `Game masters'
of sorts.  Their actions and directives to Order Members, Teachers,
Death Eaters and Ministry Employees help to direct the primary plot of
the game.  Players are then free to develop their own sub-plots as
they desire, allowing their characters to react to the information and
environment as they choose.  

Does this sound like your sort of game
 FINALLY?  Then come and have a
look around at: 

http://www.hauntedchambers.






From bethanycurrie at aol.com  Sun Dec 26 23:40:26 2004
From: bethanycurrie at aol.com (curriebethany)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:40:26 -0000
Subject: HP Fan Trip 2005
In-Reply-To: <cqfs8s+6b0v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqni5a+97v9@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "golden_faile" 
<golden_faile at y...> wrote:
> 
> ????? Is there information on this somewhere? Sounds like fun, 
> definitely something that I would like to do, but I won't get my 
> hopes up the last time I planned for something like this it fell 
> through so...

Bethany:

The website for the HP Fan Trips this summer is:  
http://www.hpfantrips.com/2005/
There are several different trips - one to Scotland, one to 
London/Oxford, one if you're particularly interested in the science 
of HP (potions, herbology classes, etc.) and a short weekend trip.  
Pictures from last year's trip are on the web, although I had a heck 
of a time searching for them on Google.  The trips also separate 
adult fans (like all of us!) from families so that the adults can 
move faster and stay at nicer hotels.  It looks like a great trip!!!






From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 26 23:53:24 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:53:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Haunted Chambers, a Harry Potter RPG run by adults
In-Reply-To: <cqnhjh+a7og@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041226235324.71766.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>



shanti_50130 <seuferer at netins.net> wrote:
Does this sound like your sort of game? FINALLY?  Then come and have a
look around at: 

http://www.hauntedchambers.




Tried to click on the link and it went no where.  Tried to do a search and only got a link to a Halloween haunted house that had nothing to do with HP.

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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Mon Dec 27 00:04:04 2004
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:04:04 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Haunted Chambers, a Harry Potter RPG run by adults
In-Reply-To: <20041226235324.71766.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <cqnhjh+a7og@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <41CFEC24.7395.895FD5@localhost>

On 26 Dec 2004 at 15:53, K G wrote:

> Tried to click on the link and it went no where.  Tried to do a search
> and only got a link to a Halloween haunted house that had nothing to
> do with HP. 

http://www.hauntedchambers.net - I tracked it down.



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From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 27 16:50:56 2004
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:50:56 -0000
Subject: My mom *had* an aluminum tree!!
In-Reply-To: <3325.4.47.27.205.1104028209.squirrel@4.47.27.205>
Message-ID: <cqpehg+ve3d@eGroups.com>


--- "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> wrote:
> I just heard my mom *had* one of those aluminum Christmas trees from
over
> thirty-five years ago... Y'all, those things are going for $500-1000 now
> if they're in good shape!  One of those 'should've kept it' moments. :-\

OMG, I remember those things so well!  They were quite a fad, at least
in the town where I lived, because it seemed that every front window
in the neighborhood featured a shiny silver tree turning red, then
green, then blue...   My family never had one, but we did get a
"realistic looking" fake tree when they came out.  The branches were
made of twisted wire, and the "needles" were dark green cellophane. 
After Christmas you could just take the decorations off, fold the
branches up against the trunk, and store it with ease -- my mom liked
that a lot.  And it actually did look pretty realistic, at least for
the first few years.

--snazzzybird, vacuuming up pine needles in the family room






From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 27 17:13:28 2004
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:13:28 -0000
Subject: Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, was Who has ordered?
In-Reply-To: <cqae85+acnr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqpfro+9n8n@eGroups.com>


--- "dungrollin" <spotthedungbeetle at h...> wrote:
> 
> I've been meaning to recommend 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell' by 
> Suzana Clarke on this board for ages.  Takes a bit of patience to 
> get into, but it's big, and good, and fun, and will keep you going 
> for a while.  It's an historical fantasy, set around the beginning 
> of the 19th century in England, with magicians and fairies and a 
> prophecy, and the mysterious Raven King - very much an adult novel.  
> It's described in the blurb (amusingly enough) as Harry Potter for 
> grown ups.  But that's not really fair, as the style is completely 
> different - Harry Potter meets Lord of the Rings meets ... something 
> else I can't quite put my finger on.  Beautifully written, a 
> plethora of fictional footnotes, and a handy sewn-in bookmark.
> 

I read 'Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell', and absolutely loved it.  You
mention the footnotes -- I particularly enjoyed them; they add
immeasurably to the illusion that this is a nonfiction account of
actual historical events.

I recommend this book to adult HP readers, my fellow Snape fans in
particular.  The darkly enigmatic Mr. John Childermass seems a natural
 for fanfiction.  ;-)

--snazzzybird, trapped by print material






From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 27 17:37:51 2004
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about pre-ordering
In-Reply-To: <cqpfro+9n8n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041227173751.44245.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>

I resisted the urge to pre-order because I thought (maybe mistakenly?)
that if I pre-ordered HBP, I'd have to wait for it to be shipped to me,
and I'd rather get it in my hot little hands the minute it comes out.

Going through some back emails, I think I read someone say that if you
pre-order, you get a ticket (or something) and then come into the store to
pick it up, or you get a place in line on the 15th.  

Can anyone help me with this?  If I don't have to wait for the book to be
shipped to me, I'd defintely like to pre-order it.  

Thanks!

MJ


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From spin01 at aol.com  Mon Dec 27 18:44:10 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:44:10 -0000
Subject: question about pre-ordering
In-Reply-To: <20041227173751.44245.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqpl5q+oq8e@eGroups.com>


At the boarders in the US if you preorder you get a receipt showing 
you have preordered.  You just go to the store and pick it up the day 
it is releases.  To preorder online go to Boarders.com and it will 
take you to the site.  then go from there.  I already reserved 2 of 
them.  you get a reservation number and just go pay and off you go.  
I know for myself I never even make it out of the parking lot without 
reading  a page or 2 lol.
sherry
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Marita Jan <maritajan at y...> 
wrote:
> I resisted the urge to pre-order because I thought (maybe 
mistakenly?)
> that if I pre-ordered HBP, I'd have to wait for it to be shipped to 
me,
> and I'd rather get it in my hot little hands the minute it comes 
out.
> 
> Going through some back emails, I think I read someone say that if 
you
> pre-order, you get a ticket (or something) and then come into the 
store to
> pick it up, or you get a place in line on the 15th.  
> 
> Can anyone help me with this?  If I don't have to wait for the book 
to be
> shipped to me, I'd defintely like to pre-order it.  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> MJ
> 
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From bethanycurrie at aol.com  Mon Dec 27 19:49:33 2004
From: bethanycurrie at aol.com (curriebethany)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:49:33 -0000
Subject: Haunted Chambers, a Harry Potter RPG run by adults
In-Reply-To: <20041226235324.71766.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cqpp0d+j5f6@eGroups.com>


> shanti_50130 <seuferer at n...> wrote:
> Does this sound like your sort of game
 FINALLY?  Then come and 
have a
> look around at: 
> 
> http://www.hauntedchambers.
> 
moonmyyst:
> Tried to click on the link and it went no where.  Tried to do a 
search and only got a link to a Halloween haunted house that had 
nothing to do with HP.
> 
Bethany:

I had a heck of a time finding it too, but I finally found it.  Here 
is the full address:
http://www.hauntedchambers.net






From kennymod at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 27 21:47:05 2004
From: kennymod at yahoo.com (kennymod)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:47:05 -0000
Subject: HP and T Rex
Message-ID: <cqpvsp+34un@eGroups.com>


A while ago I posted the following: 
> 
Has anyone ever heard JKR talk about or get asked about T Rex (Marc 
> Bolan)?  (70s glam/mod).  On an early T Rex lp there is a song 
> called "Trelawney Lawn".  His first single was called "The Wizard" 
> and had a book of poetry, The Warlock of Love.  (see Allmusic.com 
> bio).  His folk boogie music and wobbly voice is what I'd expect 
> from the Wierd Sisters.  His first big single was Ride A White 
Swan.  

One friendly person (thanks Sarah) responded that 
Cho watched her...  "silvery swan-like patronas soar around the room 
of requirement"

I just noticed a bit more... the lyrics to Ride a White are 
interesting 1) in the first verse about "ride it out like a bird" 
says in the third line "Fly it all out like an eagle..." and could 
be -- Buckbeak and S. Black  and 2) in the third verse "catch a 
bright star... place it on your fore head".  
 
I bet JKR was a T Rex fan.  

Ken

Ride a White Swan (T.Rex)

Ride it on out like a bird in the sky ways
Ride it on out like you were a bird
Fly it all out like an eagle in a sunbeam
Ride it on out like you were a bird

Wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days
Wear a tall hat and a tatooed gown
Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane
Wear your hair long, babe you can't go wrong

Catch a bright star and a place it on your fore-head
Say a few spells and baby, there you go
Take a black cat and sit it on your shoulder
And in the morning you'll know all you know, oh

Wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days
Wear a tall hat and a tatooed gown
Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane
Wear your hair long, babe you can't go wrong







From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 28 15:27:14 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:27:14 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about pre-ordering
In-Reply-To: <20041227173751.44245.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003401c4ecf1$b6369380$0400a8c0@pensive>

I suppose it depends on the place from which you buy the book, but I pre
ordered last time, went to my local store for the midnight opening.  It was
barns and noble.  Anyway, all the people who ha pre ordered got to take a
number and get their books first.  The people who hadn't ordered had to wait
till we were all finished.

sherry


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Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:38 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about pre-ordering



I resisted the urge to pre-order because I thought (maybe mistakenly?)
that if I pre-ordered HBP, I'd have to wait for it to be shipped to me,
and I'd rather get it in my hot little hands the minute it comes out.

Going through some back emails, I think I read someone say that if you
pre-order, you get a ticket (or something) and then come into the store to
pick it up, or you get a place in line on the 15th.  

Can anyone help me with this?  If I don't have to wait for the book to be
shipped to me, I'd defintely like to pre-order it.  

Thanks!

MJ


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From chnc1024 at AOL.COM  Tue Dec 28 19:34:16 2004
From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:34:16 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about pre-ordering
Message-ID: <9b.55b5a17b.2f030f38@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 12/28/2004 7:31:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
sherriola at earthlink.net writes:



I resisted the urge to pre-order because I thought (maybe  mistakenly?)
that if I pre-ordered HBP, I'd have to wait for it to be  shipped to me,
and I'd rather get it in my hot little hands the minute it  comes out.



*****************************************************************
 
Chancie:
 
I was on the Wal-Mart website, and it guarenteed delivery on the 16th 
(even with the cheep shipping option) and it was cheeper than the 
price that it will be released at.  $19.84 including  shipping!  So, if you
don't mind waiting a few hours until the mail runs, you can save about  $10
or so, and not have to deal with the lines at the stores!
 
Chancie


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Dec 28 19:34:43 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:34:43 -0000
Subject: question about pre-ordering
In-Reply-To: <003401c4ecf1$b6369380$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cqscgj+uhgj@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> I suppose it depends on the place from which you buy the book, 

I pre-ordered OotP from Amazon (UK) and it was delivered to my house 
on the morning of the release day at 7.30.  needless to say, once I 
was out of bed to answer the door (I think it was a Saturday) I went 
straight back, and was not seen by my family for the rest of the day, 
indeed the weekend!
Sarah xx
PS I was reading, not sleeping off the effects of an unGodly early 
wake up call on my day off!!






From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Dec 28 19:54:45 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:54:45 -0000
Subject: HP and T Rex
In-Reply-To: <cqpvsp+34un@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqsdm5+3n6m@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kennymod" <kennymod at y...> 
wrote:
> I bet JKR was a T Rex fan.  

I have in front of me eight T Rex and Marc Bolan CDs (easier to find 
than the original {and better} vinyls.  In no particular order there 
are several different magical points and ideas that could be applied 
to the potterverse (I don't like that term, not nearly magical 
enough...)
First a quote from the late John Peel...
"Tyrannosaurus Rex rose out of the sad and scattered leaves of an 
older summer.  During the hard, grey winter they were tended and 
strengthened by those who love them.  They blossomed with the coming 
of spring, children rejoiced and the earth sang with them.  It will 
be a long and ecstatic summer."
Songs include:-
"Dwarfish Trumpet Blues"
"King of the Mountain Cometh" (Giants?)
"She was born to be my Unicorn" (the unicorn is obviously special)
"Cat Black (The Wizard's Hat)"
"Warlord of the Royal Crocodiles" (this has to be magical right?)
"Ride a White Swan" (as previously mentioned as Cho's patronas)
"The Wizard"
"King of the Rumbling Spires" (it sounds magical to me)
"By the light of the magical moon"
"Pictures of purple people" (wizards?)
"A beard of stars" (Dumbledore should have a beard of stars)
"Dragon's ear"
"Eastern Spell"
"Rings of fortune" (more LOTR maybe)
and the best title for an album ever is...
"My people were fair and had sky in their hair...But now they're 
content to wear stars in their brows."
There are loads of references I could find...maybe it was just the 
way of the hippies in the late sixties and early seventies...but I 
just love finding links!
Sarah xx







From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 28 20:08:58 2004
From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:08:58 -0000
Subject: Best HP gift
In-Reply-To: <003c01c4eaed$3ade1c40$ca58aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <cqsegq+mkbh@eGroups.com>



Amanda Geist wrote:
> There was a package for me, a purple one, under our tree. It was 
> labeled "The Leaky Cauldron." Hm.
> 
> And when I got a turn to unwrap, I was handed this package. And I 
> opened it. To find an extra-deep, three-footed....
> 
> ready?
> 
> heavy-duty, stainless steel....
> 
> *COLANDER.*
> 
> 
> Leaky cauldron indeed..! > That may even beat the Knight Bus lego 
> set that my daughter gave me.


SSSusan:
Well, I had planned to lurk about OTC for awhile and get my bearings, 
having finally just enlisted here, but I saw this first off and was 
spooked by the similarity to my Christmas.  Amanda, my DH also gave 
me a collander [though he lacked the true HP fan inclination to label 
it a Leaky Cauldron], **and** I got the Knight Bus Lego set from my 
mom.  It now proudly sits on my desk here at work, though my kids are 
annoyed that I took it away from home.

Siriusly Snapey Susan










From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 29 03:31:11 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 03:31:11 -0000
Subject: question about pre-ordering
In-Reply-To: <9b.55b5a17b.2f030f38@aol.com>
Message-ID: <cqt8dv+m1hc@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 12/28/2004 7:31:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
> sherriola at e... writes:
> 
> 
> 
> I resisted the urge to pre-order because I thought (maybe  
mistakenly?)
> that if I pre-ordered HBP, I'd have to wait for it to be  shipped 
to me,
> and I'd rather get it in my hot little hands the minute it  comes 
out.
> 
> 
> 
> *****************************************************************
>  
> Chancie:
>  
> I was on the Wal-Mart website, and it guarenteed delivery on the 
16th 
> (even with the cheep shipping option) and it was cheeper than the 
> price that it will be released at.  $19.84 including  shipping!  
So, if you
> don't mind waiting a few hours until the mail runs, you can save 
about  $10
> or so, and not have to deal with the lines at the stores!
>  
> Chancie
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

imamommy:
 I went to WalMart at 5am, even though I had pre-ordered form 
Costco.com.  I didn't know if it would get there that day or not.  By 
the time FedEx showed up that afternoon, I was halfway done.  Walmart 
at five in the morning was not at all crowded, and they had tons of 
copies by the customer service desk. 

This time I want to preorder from a bookstore so I can go to the 
party!
imamommy






From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 04:44:13 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:44:13 -0000
Subject: Best HP gift
In-Reply-To: <cqsegq+mkbh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqtcmt+ojvn@eGroups.com>



> Amanda Geist wrote:
> > There was a package for me, a purple one, under our tree. It was 
> > labeled "The Leaky Cauldron." Hm.
> > 
> > And when I got a turn to unwrap, I was handed this package. And 
I 
> > opened it. To find an extra-deep, three-footed....
> > 
> > ready?
> > 
> > heavy-duty, stainless steel....
> > 
> > *COLANDER.*
> > 
> > 
> > Leaky cauldron indeed..! > That may even beat the Knight Bus 
lego set that my daughter gave me.
> 
> 
> SSSusan:
> Well, I had planned to lurk about OTC for awhile and get my 
bearings, having finally just enlisted here, but I saw this first 
off and was spooked by the similarity to my Christmas.  Amanda, my 
DH also gave me a collander [though he lacked the true HP fan 
inclination to label it a Leaky Cauldron], **and** I got the Knight 
Bus Lego set from my mom.  It now proudly sits on my desk here at 
work, though my kids are annoyed that I took it away from home.
> 
> Siriusly Snapey Susan


Valky:
I did not get a leaky Cauldron either, but I got the Knight Bus 
Lego, it's a very good set isn't it. The beds slide around as it 
moves. It has pride of place on display now. 








From andie1 at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 29 05:35:46 2004
From: andie1 at earthlink.net (grindieloe)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:35:46 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
Message-ID: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>


Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

grindie






From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Wed Dec 29 06:14:57 2004
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:14:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1CjX6t-0004mb-00@smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net>

Oh, poor Grindy!  I'm sorry things didn't work out for you; may the next
time around be a better fit.
 
As for your question . . . my wonderful, kind, thoughtful, loving husband
only barely tolerates my HP, LOTR, and a few other fandoms, but he won't
share them.  He doesn't 'get' fantasy and magic, or movies where there
aren't sufficient aliens in exploding bikinis.  He won't watch the movies
with me (Potter *OR* Tolkien), though at least he doesn't leave the house if
I put one on.  He does, however, know how much I adore them (though he
cannot fathom *WHY* I do), and he has gotten me all three HP movies on DVD,
and both versions (theatrical releases AND extended versions) of all three
LOTR movies; in fact, my 'Return of the King' extended edition is not JUST
the movies, but the actual Gift Box Edition, which cost something like an
extra $50 or so over the plain four-disk extended version, just because he
knew I'd like the 'thingy' in the gift box -- a miniature sculpted Minas
Tirith, even though he didn't know what a Minas Tirith was (it's a city/fort
set on the flank of a mountain, for the uninitiated; there was a great
battle there in the books/movies).  He loves me!  But he wouldn't have the
first inkling of what a Leaky Cauldron was, either.  However, in almost
everything else, we're a very nice fit indeed.  :-)


   _____  

From: grindieloe [mailto:andie1 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:36 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!



Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

grindie





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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 29 07:15:37 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:15:37 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <010001c4ed76$3283aa70$0400a8c0@pensive>

Funny.  My ex-boyfriend who is still one of my closest friends today, kind
of like an extra brother ... he is the one who started me reading the books.
He has a friend who is a school librarian, and she had so highly recommended
the books, that he asked me if I'd like to read the first one with him.  It
was an audio book.  At first, I scoffed.  I couldn't believe any adult would
read a book called Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.  I'm in my 40's,
and I happen to adore children's literature as much as I do literature for
people who are not kids, but still, the title put me off.  I hadn't heard
all the talk about it, because I rarely watch TV or listen to the radio,
being violently opposed to wasting my time watching commercials.  Well, I
was the one who got hooked on Harry Potter!  By the time the first paragraph
was finished, I was enchanted.  At the end of the first chapter I was
totally hooked.  I've heard people say the first chapter of the first book
is the worst thing in the whole series, but it is what got me hooked.  Each
new scene and revelation delighted me.  So, my former boyfriend and I meet
every time a new book is released to read it together.  Last time, we did
the whole thing of going to the book store at midnight with another friend
and rushing back to my place to read all weekend long!  We're already making
plans for July to meet at his place or mine for the new book. n But I'm
definitely the one who is more hooked, being on email lists, reading fan
fiction.


Sherry


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Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:36 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!




Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

grindie






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From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Wed Dec 29 05:50:22 2004
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Bee Chase)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:50:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
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grindieloe <andie1 at earthlink.net> wrote:

Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

grindie

Luckdragon:

My DH is almost as enamoured as I. We have to buy 2 books when they come out because we are both desperate to know what happens. We've seen each movie the day they opened at our local theaters, and watch the movies repeatedly. He does not share my enthusiasm for the discussion boards,however: he doesn't understand why we need to theorize and share ideas.





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From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 29 12:32:42 2004
From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:32:42 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <20041229055022.156.qmail@web52006.mail.yahoo.com>
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grindieloe <andie1 at e...> wrote:
> > Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> > boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry 
> > Potter fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

Luckdragon:
> My DH is almost as enamoured as I. We have to buy 2 books when they 
> come out because we are both desperate to know what happens. We've 
> seen each movie the day they opened at our local theaters, and 
> watch the movies repeatedly. He does not share my enthusiasm for 
> the discussion boards,however: he doesn't understand why we need to 
> theorize and share ideas.


SSSusan:
Luckdragon's scenario is a dream scenario to me... but actually I'm 
with Tammy on this one.  My DH is a wonderful, supportive kind of 
guy, but he can't share my enthusiasm for all things Harry Potter.  
He has moved from what I'd call reluctant tolerance to almost-support 
of my obsession, though, which is a relief.  When the first movie 
came out on DVD, he had some concerns over our children watching it, 
and when the 2nd came out in the theaters, we wasn't so sure about my 
taking our then-6-year-old daughter to see it, but I did.  (She's now 
8 and pretty well hooked herself, frequently listening to the 
audiorecordings.) But he actually stopped rolling his eyes about my 
seeing PoA on my lunch "hour" (um, repeatedly).

Anyway, my DH's main problem with the books has been his upbringing.  
Even though he's a fairly liberal Episcopalian at this point in his 
life, he was raised in a Mennonite family, and in that "area" of 
Christianity, one doesn't DO magic, witchcraft, sorcery, etc. -- all 
those are "of the devil."  We had several frustrating conversations, 
wherein I tried to explain that the magic was pretty much fun & 
setting and that the *point* of it all had to do with bravery, 
loyalty, courage, friendship, good vs. evil.  I know that he sees 
that more now than he used to, thank goodness, but it's still a bit 
of a struggle over something that was so engrained through his 
childhood.

His major objection at this point would probably be the time I spend 
on the *computer* in support of this obsession -- time I really am 
taking away from him & the kids.  And that's justifiable sometimes.

He does love watching Alan Rickman as Snape and David Bradley as 
Filch, though -- finds them quite amusing.  And he's even taken to 
*buying* me things HP-related or *asking* about things, which has 
been terrific.  For instance, since he's not read the books, movie!
PoA didn't make perfect sense.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Dec 29 13:25:26 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:25:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOAEPPDHAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Hey there, :-)

Sorry to hear about the break-up, Grindie...those things are never fun.
IMO, if the both can't see eye to eye on the little things, the same will
often be true on the big.  This doesn't mean that both have to love each
other's hobbies, but respect and support is a definite must! :-)

In my case, I guess I'm blessed that my husband and I love many of the same
things, including HP.  I'm a lot more into the fandom aspect than he is, but
he wouldn't turn down a midnight bookstore run just to see what was going on
there. <Grin>

He's not one to get memorabilia and such, but if he sees that I'd like to
get something, or knows of something I'd enjoy, and the price isn't truly
prohibitive, it's mine.  He's always been like that, with my Battlestar
Galactica fandom, too.

In fact, one time I had given him a "book" (a very long fanfic story) I had
written and not quite finished for him to proofread and look at.  He'd never
read it or anything and had said he'd look at it in a sort of non-committal
way.  Figured he'd probably look at it...the next week or something.

Well, one night, both of us were having problems sleeping...me with a
migraine and he with whatever and, unbeknownst to me, had started reading my
story.

I had gone into the kitchen to grab another pain-killer and he came in and
told me I was a "terrible person for keeping him up so late with such a
great story!"  Ah...even with a migraine, that made me feel good.

Anyway, Art's been good to me, and knows that I support his Barbershop
singing and all, so we make a good team. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 13:56:12 2004
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:56:12 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqud1s+nmve@eGroups.com>


Hi Grindie,

Sorry about your breakup, that magic formula is so elusive. We are a 
mixed bag so I guess that says you really can't tell what will work 
and what won't. I wish you happiness.

My Husband is not really a supporter of my obsession with it all, 
but then he has only read 6 novels in his whole life, five of them 
are, well..... you know.... in July his reading tally will climb to 
seven novels. In such a way I am fortunate that he can appreciate 
that Harry Potter is a fabulous tale. I get to read first because I 
am faster, but he does try to steal a chapter or two when I am not 
looking.

BTW I really don't know what the other novel is, apparently it was 
something he was required to read at school many years ago, so JKR 
has the claim to the only reading he has ever enjoyed.

Valky



> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
> I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
> read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
> first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the 
upcoming 
> Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie






From michel56 at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 29 14:22:58 2004
From: michel56 at earthlink.net (Michele)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:22:58 -0500
Subject: Fw: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: question about pre-ordering
Message-ID: <003201c4edb1$e565e0f0$b4736e18@valued1c3ed06e>


imamommy wrote:
I went to WalMart at 5am, even though I had pre-ordered form 
Costco.com.  I didn't know if it would get there that day or not.  By 
the time FedEx showed up that afternoon, I was halfway done.  Walmart 
at five in the morning was not at all crowded, and they had tons of 
copies by the customer service desk. 

This time I want to preorder from a bookstore so I can go to the 
party!
imamommy




Now Michele:
I had the same idea this year.  I preordered from the Barnes and Noble yesterday.  I want to do the party thing this year, too, never was able to before.  But I sure was shocked at the $29.99 price.  I admit I weakened a bit since it was only $17.99 online.  But then the thought of the party won out over the $$ savings.   Now, hurry up July!

Michele

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From sroginson at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 29 14:29:04 2004
From: sroginson at sbcglobal.net (stephen roginson)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:29:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041229142904.72240.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>

 


grindieloe <andie1 at earthlink.net> wrote:

Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

grindie

I had to respond to this one...
(Brand-spankin' New to HPFGU)
I dated a woman for a while that started to get into HP/LOTR after meeting me.  Perhaps it flattered me that she cared enough to try and dig into these new worlds (and understand the allusions and quotes I constantly sputter).   This relationship is all said and done, and I still have these worlds as an oasis.  I'm kind of glad that they're just mine again.
Although, my 3 1/2 year old daughter has brand new worlds to look forward to - and I get to introduce them to her!
All the younger people around me - i.e. my guitar students - seem to understand.  They get a kick out of my HP garb and knowledge.  Point is...I enjoy having it for myself, but willingly share it with anyone interested.
 
SR




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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 29 15:10:18 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:10:18 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!
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My best friends are fundamentalist Christians, people that most would
consider to be right wing, intolerant and various other not so nice things.
Well, naturally, they are politically conservative.  But they've never
objected to the HP books and are fans almost as much as I am.  I live with
them right now, and the oldest boy is always coming and asking me when the
next book is coming or if I've heard any more news about anything HP
related.  He used to hate reading till Harry Potter came into his life.  His
mom, my friend, is an avid reader too, and we're all planning to be at the
local borders book store for the midnight release on the great day.  my
friends get very upset when they hear other fundamentalist people say the
books are evil, without ever reading them, because they believe exactly what
SS Susan tells her husband ... the books are about loyalty, bravery, hard
work.  Those things help the heroes survive, and in fact, magic is often not
helpful or just a tool.

But then, often the people who think HP is evil, don't allow their kids to
watch the Wizard of Oz, or any Disney movies or read any sort of fantasy
with any sort of magic.  Wonder if they even are against CS Lewis or
Madeleine L'engle?

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: cubfanbudwoman [mailto:susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:33 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!




grindieloe <andie1 at e...> wrote:
> > Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> > boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry 
> > Potter fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

Luckdragon:
> My DH is almost as enamoured as I. We have to buy 2 books when they 
> come out because we are both desperate to know what happens. We've 
> seen each movie the day they opened at our local theaters, and 
> watch the movies repeatedly. He does not share my enthusiasm for 
> the discussion boards,however: he doesn't understand why we need to 
> theorize and share ideas.


SSSusan:
Luckdragon's scenario is a dream scenario to me... but actually I'm 
with Tammy on this one.  My DH is a wonderful, supportive kind of 
guy, but he can't share my enthusiasm for all things Harry Potter.  
He has moved from what I'd call reluctant tolerance to almost-support 
of my obsession, though, which is a relief.  When the first movie 
came out on DVD, he had some concerns over our children watching it, 
and when the 2nd came out in the theaters, we wasn't so sure about my 
taking our then-6-year-old daughter to see it, but I did.  (She's now 
8 and pretty well hooked herself, frequently listening to the 
audiorecordings.) But he actually stopped rolling his eyes about my 
seeing PoA on my lunch "hour" (um, repeatedly).

Anyway, my DH's main problem with the books has been his upbringing.  
Even though he's a fairly liberal Episcopalian at this point in his 
life, he was raised in a Mennonite family, and in that "area" of 
Christianity, one doesn't DO magic, witchcraft, sorcery, etc. -- all 
those are "of the devil."  We had several frustrating conversations, 
wherein I tried to explain that the magic was pretty much fun & 
setting and that the *point* of it all had to do with bravery, 
loyalty, courage, friendship, good vs. evil.  I know that he sees 
that more now than he used to, thank goodness, but it's still a bit 
of a struggle over something that was so engrained through his 
childhood.

His major objection at this point would probably be the time I spend 
on the *computer* in support of this obsession -- time I really am 
taking away from him & the kids.  And that's justifiable sometimes.

He does love watching Alan Rickman as Snape and David Bradley as 
Filch, though -- finds them quite amusing.  And he's even taken to 
*buying* me things HP-related or *asking* about things, which has 
been terrific.  For instance, since he's not read the books, movie!
PoA didn't make perfect sense.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 29 15:23:43 2004
From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:23:43 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
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"Sherry Gomes" wrote:
> My best friends are fundamentalist Christians, people that most 
> would consider to be right wing, intolerant and various other not 
> so nice things. Well, naturally, they are politically 
> conservative.  But they've never objected to the HP books and are 
> fans almost as much as I am.  <snip>  my friends get very upset 
> when they hear other fundamentalist people say the books are evil, 
> without ever reading them, because they believe exactly what
> SS Susan tells her husband ... the books are about loyalty, 
> bravery, hard work.  Those things help the heroes survive, and in 
> fact, magic is often not helpful or just a tool.
> 
> But then, often the people who think HP is evil, don't allow their 
> kids to watch the Wizard of Oz, or any Disney movies or read any 
> sort of fantasy with any sort of magic.  Wonder if they even are 
> against CS Lewis or Madeleine L'engle?


SSSusan:
Of course they're not against them. :-)   CSLewis and L'Engle -- and 
JRRT -- were more *overt* about their Christianity and/or their 
Christian message.  JKR has stated that she's a Christian, and 
Christians who're interested can find *plenty* of Christian imagery, 
symbolism and themes in her books.  But she (rightly, imho) has 
chosen not to label her books as "Christian" nor to write them in 
such a way that ONLY Christians will find positive messages therein.  
She's inclusive; in fact, I think she's purposely omitted any overt 
references to Christianity -- something which makes me pleased but 
which distresses those looking for an open "Yes, this is a Christian 
story!" statement.  Sorry, folks; I don't think that's her purpose.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Wed Dec 29 17:16:57 2004
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:16:57 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cquoq9+c7l6@eGroups.com>


My DH was completely uninterested at first, but now he has so eagerly 
embraced HP that all this almost-60-year-old kid wanted for Christmas 
this year was a wand. How did it happen?

I'd read all the books and dragged him to the first two movies, which 
he attended politely and even asked questions, but it was clear that 
he "just wasn't that into it." But early last summer I had some 
extensive dental work done, and the dentist recommended that I bring 
an audio book to help pass the time and distract me while the work 
was being done. I went to the library and checked out POA on tape 
(this was just before the movie came out). I'd only listened to one 
of the seven cassettes by the time the dentist finished.

The following weekend, we had an eight-hour road trip to make and I 
took the tapes in the car with me. I asked him if he would mind if I 
listened to just a little bit more of the story, and he moaned a 
little, saying that he'd listen for one hour, and then he wanted the 
music back on. I popped in the tape, giving him a quick summary of 
what had happed in the first few chapters, and we listened to Jim 
Dale for the next hour or so. I took it out when it finished and put 
the tapes away, and he said, "Well, what happens next? Put in the 
next one!" So we heard the entire story on that trip, and GOF on the 
next one, and eventually we have heard all five audio books and re-
viewed all the movies. He was so hip by the time POA-movie came out 
that he was able to nitpick as well as I!

I think it is because he is dyslexic and does not enjoy recreational 
reading that he never got into it; but hearing the stories read to 
him in such a skillful way really got him excited about it. (What he 
doesn't know is he's getting a late Christmas gift--just wait till 
our copy of Stephen Fry reading PS arrives from amazon.co.uk!)

I've pre-ordered HBP-print; I wonder if he can stand to wait for the 
audio or if he'll actually tackle the book? Stay tuned...
MsTattersall

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" <andie1 at e...> 
wrote:
> 
> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
> I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
> read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
> first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
> Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie






From tahewitt at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 17:21:57 2004
From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:21:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 1755
In-Reply-To: <1104327061.1457.82536.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041229172158.82466.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com>

My partner, while not as, um, obsessive as me, is also
a big Harry Potter fan. He's read all of the books and
seen the films, and has interesting thoeries about
what will happen in books 6 & 7.

As long as we're on the subject of obsessions, I can't
beleive what I'm doing on New Year's Eve:
I'll be gathering with a small group of friends to
watch the director's cut of all three Lord of the
Rings films. That's 12 hours of LOTR. We're starting
at noon.

Tyler


grindie wrote...
Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do
your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your
Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?




		
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From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 17:50:32 2004
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:50:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cquoq9+c7l6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041229175032.71000.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com>

I would say that my family and friends accept, in a general sort of way,
my obsession with HP, but they don't really participate.  I get a lot of
the rolling-of-the-eyes kind of thing whenever I bring up anything even
remotely related to the story lines.  And, God forbid they catch me
watching one of the DVDs.  I feel like I've been caught watching porn!  :)

Funny thing happened the other day, though.  For Christmas, I bought my 17
year old son, who LOVES dragons, a book called "Dragonology".  He loved
it.  I was looking over his shoulder and asked him, jokingly, if they had
Hungarian Horntails or Norwegian Ridgebacks in there and he said, in all
seriousness, "Mom, those are make-believe dragons.  They wouldn't be in
here." 

This from my brilliant, Kettering University presidential scholarship
winning, 17 year old son.  

Uh huh. 

It took him a few seconds to realize what he'd said, but I'll be reminding
him of it for years to come.  :)

MJ


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From chnc1024 at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 29 18:06:01 2004
From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:06:01 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Venting...and a Question!
Message-ID: <154.47665fe7.2f044c09@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 12/28/2004 9:37:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
andie1 at earthlink.net writes:

Here I  am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
someone who  seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  

I should have known  it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
read a Harry Potter  book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
first three, but he  wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
Half-Blood Prince to look  forward to!  

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do  your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter  
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it  too?

grindie




******************************************************************************
******
 
Chancie:
 
I am sorry that your relationship didn't work out.  I'm very  lucky that I 
found Mr. Right at such a young age (I'm 23 now, and I've been with  my husband 
since just before I was 19).  He definatly doesn't get my HP  obsession!  When 
I got OoP, and I got to the point where Sirius had just  died.  I was sitting 
on the couch crying, and he came over to me looking  worried and asked me 
what was wrong, I told him that I was reading my book, and  some one just died.  
He looked releaved and then said "You do know this is  just a book right??" 
almost laughing when he said it.  He's never  discureged me from it though.  He 
bought me all the books for my birthday,  and gave me an IOU for HBP.  I've 
told him he should read the books,  because I know he'd like them, but I haven't 
succeded as of yet.  
 
Good Luck with your next relationship Grindie!
Chancie


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From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 18:06:09 2004
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:06:09 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqurmh+nkd2@eGroups.com>


--- "grindieloe" <andie1 at e...> wrote:
> 
> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie


Grindie, I'm so sorry to hear about your break-up.  But I'm sure
there's someone out there for you -- maybe someone who can share your
HP fascination!

My husband indulges Young'un and me in our Potter obsession.  He
hasn't read any of the books, but he watches the movies with us on
DVD.  His taste in movies runs more toward action-adventure, but he
enjoys a good story, and the HP movies are certainly that.

--snazzzybird








From chnc1024 at AOL.COM  Wed Dec 29 18:20:34 2004
From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:20:34 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!
Message-ID: <12e.543930f4.2f044f72@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 12/29/2004 7:48:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net writes:

"Sherry  Gomes" wrote:
> My best friends are fundamentalist Christians, people  that most 
> would consider to be right wing, intolerant and various  other not 
> so nice things. Well, naturally, they are politically  
> conservative.  But they've never objected to the HP books and  are 
> fans almost as much as I am.  <snip>  my friends  get very upset 
> when they hear other fundamentalist people say the  books are evil, 
> without ever reading them, because they believe  exactly what
> SS Susan tells her husband ... the books are about  loyalty, 
> bravery, hard work.  Those things help the heroes  survive, and in 
> fact, magic is often not helpful or just a  tool.
> 
> But then, often the people who think HP is evil, don't  allow their 
> kids to watch the Wizard of Oz, or any Disney movies or  read any 
> sort of fantasy with any sort of  magic


*******************************************************
 
Chancie:
 
Wow!  It's so funny to hear that come from someone other than  myself!!!  I 
am a Christian
and have been since I was 7!  I would never read these books if I  thought 
they were "down on God" its makebelieve!!!  It's not like JKR  is writing to 
"teach" kids to be witches or wizards or anything, it's just a  story and a 
wonderful one at that!  I've never heard any one object to Snow  White and the 7 
dawarfs because the witch is casting spells to poison an apple  and kill 
someone!  I think that some people are too quick to judge things  based on limited 
information.  They hear that the Harry attends  Hogwarts School of Witchcraft 
and Wizardry... and thats pretty much all it takes  for it to be "evil".  
 
Chancie


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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 19:38:19 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:38:19 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cquoq9+c7l6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqv13b+ah78@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MsTattersall" <cwood at t...> wrote:

> I've pre-ordered HBP-print; I wonder if he can stand to wait for the 
> audio or if he'll actually tackle the book? Stay tuned...
> MsTattersall

Well, if he finds reading too frustrating, why make him wait?  Why not
make your own second read be aloud, to him?  It'd be a nice time together.

I still routinely read the books to my 14y/o daughter, even though
she's read them all to herself.  It all began back when her younger
sister was just out of 2nd grade (in 2000) and I began reading them to
her. Next thing I knew, all or most of the family would wind up in the
living room with us, listening!

Annemehr







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 20:01:24 2004
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:01:24 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe and Emma Watson in IMDb Top 25
Message-ID: <cqv2ek+ddor@eGroups.com>


Thanks to the film version of PoA, Daniel Radcliffe is number 20 and
Emma Watson is number 13 on the IMDb Starmeter's top 25 stars of 2004.
Check it out at http://www.imdb.com/features/rto/2005/starmeter

Both of them beat out Viggo Mortensen (number 23) but Orlando Bloom is
still riding the Legolas wave at number 3.

Carol






From karen_lvssr at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 21:14:29 2004
From: karen_lvssr at yahoo.com (karen_lvssr)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:14:29 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqv6nl+leeq@eGroups.com>


--> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
> I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
> read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
> first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
> Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie

Grindie,
Sorry about your break-up!   Better to find out now than later and wasting your time with 
someone you're not meant to be with.  AS far as my DH,,,no, he does not share my 
obsession with either the HP series or the LOTR.  Although I have sworn to him that at 
least the LOTR ,with all the battle scenes, really is his type of movie,  he shows no interest.  
And you know what, it really is okay.  Because I don't share his obsession with sitting in a 
boat for hours at a time fishing.  He did buy for me the extended version of the LOTR 
movie for Christmas and allows me my space to obsess, but it's *not his thing*.  
Ms. Luna  






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 29 23:24:49 2004
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:24:49 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqvec1+j6c8@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" <andie1 at e...> 
wrote:
> 
> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
<Snip> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie

*****\(@@)/*****

Sorry to hear about the breakup grindieloe. Sometimes when they seem 
just so right then most likely they will be the wrong one.... I 
think a general rule is that if you can look at them now, warts and 
all, and see yourself still with them 50 years from now, warts and 
all, then that is probably the one you should be with! 

As to your question, my hubbie is really good about my Potter 
obsession. He really went out of his way for OoP when he went and 
picked up a book for me at midnight and then got the box it came in 
just because he thought I would like it. He was also very 
encouraging when I participated in the Letterbox Project and made my 
own stationary to send my letter to Jo. He hasn't read the books 
(partly because of work and he just has a hard time reading any 
books these days) so we have listened to the books on tape when we 
travel and he has heard them all now and really liked them. He has 
slowly been trying to read Lord of the Rings and we are working 
through the audio tapes on that too.

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 30 02:23:13 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:23:13 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cqvoqh+c8mp@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" <andie1 at e...> 
wrote:
> 
> Here I am, 29 years old, and dealing with another break-up with 
> someone who seemed so right and yet turned out so wrong.  
> 
> I should have known it wouldn't work when I found out he had never 
> read a Harry Potter book.  (I did eventually get him to read the 
> first three, but he wouldn't discuss.) At least I have the upcoming 
> Half-Blood Prince to look forward to!  
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?
> 
> grindie

imamommy:

Sorry to hear your news, grindie, but your post made me (and my 
husband) smile.

My DH is sort of an unheralded prescence in the fandom, but he often 
reads over my shoulder, or, more annoyingly, asks me to read posts 
out loud.  He has read each book only once, but will often indulge me 
in discussing theories so I can clarify my point before posting.  He 
has been very supportive; he stayed home with the kids so I could go 
to the opening show of POA.  I think he would like to become more 
involved, he's mentioned going to the bookstore the night HBP comes 
out and leaving my mother in charge.  This is the man who wanted to 
see all three LOTR films on opening day as well.  So he is dreamy; 
the perfect blend of involved enough to be supportive, but not so 
much as to be invasive.  Oh, and every year he throws me a Harry 
Potter birthday party.

So, yeah, it's like I won the Daily Prophet Galleon Draw on this one.

imamommy






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 30 02:46:23 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:46:23 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqui5v+fjie@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000701c4ee19$c1403460$0400a8c0@pensive>

I agree.  I was being somewhat facetious in the Lewis comment.  I have a
great deal of respect for my friends as parents.  They feel they have taught
their kids the truth, and so they aren't afraid of fantasy that isn't
overtly Christian.  and they are delighted about how it's gotten their
oldest boy to find the pleasure in reading.  Now he reads many things ...
JKR, Tolkien, Michael Crichton ... lots of things that interest him.  I
think Rowling has done the right thing by having no obvious religious
message, because her books are wonderful and are open to so many people.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: cubfanbudwoman [mailto:susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:24 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Venting...and a Question!




"Sherry Gomes" wrote:
> My best friends are fundamentalist Christians, people that most 
> would consider to be right wing, intolerant and various other not 
> so nice things. Well, naturally, they are politically 
> conservative.  But they've never objected to the HP books and are 
> fans almost as much as I am.  <snip>  my friends get very upset 
> when they hear other fundamentalist people say the books are evil, 
> without ever reading them, because they believe exactly what
> SS Susan tells her husband ... the books are about loyalty, 
> bravery, hard work.  Those things help the heroes survive, and in 
> fact, magic is often not helpful or just a tool.
> 
> But then, often the people who think HP is evil, don't allow their 
> kids to watch the Wizard of Oz, or any Disney movies or read any 
> sort of fantasy with any sort of magic.  Wonder if they even are 
> against CS Lewis or Madeleine L'engle?


SSSusan:
Of course they're not against them. :-)   CSLewis and L'Engle -- and 
JRRT -- were more *overt* about their Christianity and/or their 
Christian message.  JKR has stated that she's a Christian, and 
Christians who're interested can find *plenty* of Christian imagery, 
symbolism and themes in her books.  But she (rightly, imho) has 
chosen not to label her books as "Christian" nor to write them in 
such a way that ONLY Christians will find positive messages therein.  
She's inclusive; in fact, I think she's purposely omitted any overt 
references to Christianity -- something which makes me pleased but 
which distresses those looking for an open "Yes, this is a Christian 
story!" statement.  Sorry, folks; I don't think that's her purpose.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Dec 30 06:47:22 2004
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:47:22 -0500
Subject: More Venting & Thoughts (was Re: Venting...and a Question!)
In-Reply-To: <cquoq9+c7l6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCEAHDIAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[MsTattersall wrote]:
| I think it is because he is dyslexic and does not enjoy recreational
| reading that he never got into it; but hearing the stories read to
| him in such a skillful way really got him excited about it. (What he
| doesn't know is he's getting a late Christmas gift--just wait till
| our copy of Stephen Fry reading PS arrives from amazon.co.uk!)
|
| I've pre-ordered HBP-print; I wonder if he can stand to wait for the
| audio or if he'll actually tackle the book? Stay tuned...

[Lee]:

Maybe you should pre-order the audio, too.  They're released at the same
time...or at least within a day.  Up until now, I've always been able to get
the Jim Dale audios at the release date.

Okay, I have another vent/thought/etc., or a coulda-woulda-shoulda.  I know
we're all itching for HBP, but I seriously think JKR and publishers missed a
most fantastic marketing ploy for the book.  If they had pushed the release
date back to July 31, Harry's Birthday...ah! Celebrate Harry's birthday and
read his new adventure, or something like that..and the Bookstore parties
could really have been a super-blast!

<Sigh>...Opportunity Lost.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From seuferer at netins.net  Thu Dec 30 07:22:34 2004
From: seuferer at netins.net (shanti_50130)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:22:34 -0000
Subject: Lost Souls Found Chapter 31 up
Message-ID: <cr0abq+rk08@eGroups.com>


Sorry, guys, I have not been good about posting to my lists when I 
update this fic.

Chapter 31 is up on FFN as of tonight, might not be visible until 
tomorrow (12/31), "Losing the Game", and Chapter 32 has just been 
sent to my awesome beta.  Both of these chapters are a bit sad and 
angsty considering what has just happened to Severus and Rowena.

I could still use a Britt-picker, though! Especially with my Weasley-
twin dialog, *wink*

Again I will remind everyone that the story has been more 
thoroughly 'polished' at FFN, because I find it more user friendly 
to my technophobia, but the 'juice' is left in the 'lemons' on AFN. 

To reprise the summary: Severus Snape and OFC, Romance/drama. After 
OotP so loads of spoilers for that book, but before Half Blood 
Prince (hmm, is that one word, halfblood, or two?); so AU to that 
book when it arrives, Voldemort out in the open, Snape involved in 
DE activities because of his OotP Spy role, a researcher from 
Ministry offers to aid and assist Dumbledore and is reacquainted 
with our Potion's Master whom she knew slightly from school. Snarky 
Snape, in depth plot. (Way too much plot for those of you who want 
PWP.) WIP Rated for later chapters.

Here are the links again:
http://www.fanfiction.net/~lisasimaginings Author page
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1789723/1/ Story link at ffn

http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/story.php?no=25336 Story link at afn.

I am eventually going to get around to submitting it to 
Syncophanthex in Occlumency, but haven't gotten there yet.

Hope you enjoy it. I quote something another fanfic writer I enjoy 
said, "Reviews are like chocolate, you can never have too much."






From hphgrwlca at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 30 07:37:05 2004
From: hphgrwlca at yahoo.com (Christine Acker)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:37:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <1104327061.1457.82536.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041230073705.10258.qmail@web51708.mail.yahoo.com>


Grindie:

Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?


Me:

Haha, what a great question.  My boyfriend tolerates it.  He watched the movies and enjoyed them, but he'd rather be hanged than read the books (although maybe that's because he hates to read....)  When I got the news on a text message about the release date of HBP, he was right next to me.  I dropped the phone and started screaming and dancing and generally going crazy.  He looked at me and said, "It's just a book!"

Needless to say, that put a bit of a damper on my enjoyment.  But now it's all back!  But he won't be with me on July 16th.  :)

Christine


		
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From bethanycurrie at aol.com  Thu Dec 30 16:55:27 2004
From: bethanycurrie at aol.com (curriebethany)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:55:27 -0000
Subject: Venting...and a Question!
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cr1btv+psn9@eGroups.com>


grindie:
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

Bethany:
  My husband is really great about my HP obsession (and obsession may 
be too light of a term).  I keep haranguing him to read the books and 
he never does, but other than that, he's really involved.  We listen 
to the audio books every time we travel.  He goes with me on opening 
day to every movie (and several times more), he went with me to the 
midnight release of OotP (book), and he even signed us up to take a 
HP Fan Trip next summer for our fifth anniversary.  He's even nice 
enough to ask me questions about the HP universe occasionally so I 
can just ramble on about it.  (He's already agreed to go with me to 
the midnight release of HBP as well.)
  When my mom found the audio books with Jim Dale, she was hooked 
(although she has yet to make the leap to the Internet to support her 
habit).  My grandparents were very sick last winter and both died 
this spring.  During that time, my mom had to travel a ton to be with 
them every week, and she listened to HP audio books every time.  She 
said Harry Potter was the only thing that got her through that really 
hard part of her life, especially (after they passed away)
sympathizing with Harry's reaction to Sirius' death.  I suspect 
she'll be there at midnight July 16 to find out how Harry is doing 
compared to her own experience.  (She has now turned her husband on 
to the HP stories, which he reads, watches (the movies), and listens 
to on CD!)
  I count myself lucky that I'm surrounded by so many HP fans!!






From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Dec 30 20:51:52 2004
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:51:52 -0000
Subject: My relationship with Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <cqtfni+73no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cr1pp8+svlj@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" <andie1 at e...> 
wrote:
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

Sombody has already replied stating that their other half can credit 
JKR as writing the only books they have ever read.  This is me too.  
I have never enjoyed reading very much, there's not a lot that 
appeals.  I can read a trashy novel with the best of them, and forget 
it immediately.  Hubby, on the other hand has been an avid reader 
since he could, and knew Tolkien inside out by the age of 12.  He's 
always been into fantasy, sci fi, and I could just never see the 
appeal.  
For Christmas 1997 I thought I would buy my then nearly 8 year old a 
new book.  He could read by the age of three (I encouraged him, I 
didn't want him to be like me and struggling to read aged 8).  I saw 
this book that had won the smarties prize and thought "that has to be 
good".  I thought it would be an easy read for me - how difficult can 
children's literature be?  I don't want you to think I have a problem 
with reading - I have just never done it for pleasure...until now 
really.
Michael read it first (aged 8) then I read it and really enjoyed it.  
Only as the series progressed did I become slightly obsessed.  Hubby 
has read them all, and we go to the cinema as a family to watch the 
films as they come out.  We can have family discussions about 
virtually every aspect of HP - its the one thing we all have in 
common. (NO exageration there).  I read them for pleasure, but I 
still can't manage to get beyond chapter one of the hobbit.  I just 
can't get into anything else.
I can't critique in the same way as some of you, or compare texts and 
themes with other works, I just haven't got the knowledge.  All I 
know is that I enjoy JKR's writing and stories, and like to discuss 
and speculate, and so do hubby and son (but perhaps aren't quite so 
obsessed because they have other fictional avenues).
Sorry, I've gone on a bit
Sarah xx







From udderpd at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Dec 30 23:22:06 2004
From: udderpd at yahoo.co.uk (udder_pen_dragon)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:22:06 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My relationship with Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <cr1pp8+svlj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041230232206.73026.qmail@web25310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



Sarah <plungy116 at aol.com> wrote:


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" 
wrote:
> 
> Anyway... this brings up a good question... How do your 
> boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives feel about your Harry Potter 
> fascination (or obsession)? Do they get into it too?

Sombody has already replied stating that their other half can credit 
JKR as writing the only books they have ever read. This is me too. 
I have never enjoyed reading very much, there's not a lot that 
appeals. I can read a trashy novel with the best of them, and forget 
it immediately. Hubby, on the other hand has been an avid reader 
since he could, and knew Tolkien inside out by the age of 12. He's 
always been into fantasy, sci fi, and I could just never see the 
appeal. 
For Christmas 1997 I thought I would buy my then nearly 8 year old a 
new book. He could read by the age of three (I encouraged him, I 
didn't want him to be like me and struggling to read aged 8). I saw 
this book that had won the smarties prize and thought "that has to be 
good". I thought it would be an easy read for me - how difficult can 
children's literature be? I don't want you to think I have a problem 
with reading - I have just never done it for pleasure...until now 
really.
Michael read it first (aged 8) then I read it and really enjoyed it. 
Only as the series progressed did I become slightly obsessed. Hubby 
has read them all, and we go to the cinema as a family to watch the 
films as they come out. We can have family discussions about 
virtually every aspect of HP - its the one thing we all have in 
common. (NO exageration there). I read them for pleasure, but I 
still can't manage to get beyond chapter one of the hobbit. I just 
can't get into anything else.
I can't critique in the same way as some of you, or compare texts and 
themes with other works, I just haven't got the knowledge. All I 
know is that I enjoy JKR's writing and stories, and like to discuss 
and speculate, and so do hubby and son (but perhaps aren't quite so 
obsessed because they have other fictional avenues).
Sorry, I've gone on a bit
Sarah xx

 

UdderPD here

Hi Sarah and welcome

Your post was lovely and if JKR the magic lady herself reads it she will be very happy for you. 

Good Luck and Seasons Greetings

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From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 31 00:02:28 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:02:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: My issues with Veritaserum's site (part of HPANA)
Message-ID: <2970.4.12.232.13.1104451348.squirrel@4.12.232.13>

Heh, I must be making this guy's day.

Ranty-rant ahead.

First, I sent an email with songvid info (link, song, song artist's name,
etc) in a clear format around the middle of December (Veritaserum didn't
have a template for submissions).  I sent this info for four vids and a
link to my journal and said I have the bandwidth to keep my vids hosted on
my own site.

Yesterday, I checked Veritaserum to find *all* the HP vids (not just the
four) had been downloaded and uploaded to their site.  Okay, wasn't happy
there because they thought I didn't have the bandwidth and, by providing a
link to my journal, I had given them permission to download all HP vids? 
Then I find one of my vids incorrectly labeled (Mad World was clearly sent
as Gary Jules'** version *not* Tears for Fears) and I was credited with
somebody else's vid.

**I can identify at least two other vid folk who used the same Gary Jules'
song for the same HP movie.  I'm glad I released mine within days of POA
hitting the theater (i.e. dibs on who did what first).  AFAIK, no POA vid
is done with the Tears for Fears original version.


Okay, I emailed the site, said Mad World is by Gary Jules just as I had
labeled the vid, and that I have never done an Evanescence vid.  Plus, I
tried to debate I can take care of my own vids (30gigs bandwidth/month is
enough) and I've had the same webhost/domain account since 1998 and have
just as much invested in keeping the name.

I'll give them credit on quickly making corrections.  All but four of my
vids were removed, Mad World's entry was corrected, and my name was taken
off the Evanescence vid.  However, they still wouldn't do direct linking
to the vids I hosted.

I mentioned the page didn't have a 'vidder's info' (i.e. how do you get in
contact with the creator of the songvid - not even an email address for
them), unless the person incorporated it into their work... which I don't.
 So, the site allowed a link to my journal (the one they tried uploading
all the HP vids from).

I'm thinking fair enough... and then I find the link they used takes a
person to the top level of the domain name, which doesn't link to my
journal and the other HP vids.  So, another email to Veritaserum goes out.
:-\  Again, they're quick on making corrections.

Hehe, should I say my vidding name is 'bunniqula' and not 'Dina' (the vids
are labeled as 'vid by bunniqula' on all four)?  I'm not going to bother
on that.  Seriously, I'm not trying to make his job harder but not all of
it was my fault.  All in all, I must've made the site maintainer...
remember me.

Dina






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 02:11:30 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:11:30 -0800
Subject: OW!
References: <2970.4.12.232.13.1104451348.squirrel@4.12.232.13>
Message-ID: <019901c4eede$0baf3a40$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Okay, what is up with going to the
dentist perfectly pain free (I had a
hole in my tooth but it wasn't actually
bugging me.  And returning with pain so
back you're having to take high
strength pain pills?!

Gah!  I am now out of commission again
and cannot write.  I would love to sue
him for lost wages but I can't exactly
prove I'd get paid.  Although I can
prove the pain and suffering
considering I'm allergic to these pills
and have to take them or lose
consciousness from pain.

Stupid offices won't open again till
Monday so I'm basically up a creek.  He
did something to my jaw that makes it
so I have pain shooting across it,
can't open my mouth very much and can't
talk or smile without hurting.

*sniffles*  I hurt....

Sympathize with me loves...share your
pain stories so I dont' feel so icky.
*cute, adorable, irresistible pout
face*  Ow...now that hurts...darnit he
took away my pout abilities!  Someone
must pay for this!  (hehe, j/kidding on
that part...although it does hurt to
pout)

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 31 03:16:39 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:16:39 -0000
Subject: More Venting & Thoughts (was Re: Venting...and a Question!)
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOCEAHDIAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <cr2gan+9rsk@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> Okay, I have another vent/thought/etc., or a coulda-woulda-
shoulda.  I know
> we're all itching for HBP, but I seriously think JKR and publishers 
missed a
> most fantastic marketing ploy for the book.  If they had pushed the 
release
> date back to July 31, Harry's Birthday...ah! Celebrate Harry's 
birthday and
> read his new adventure, or something like that..and the Bookstore 
parties
> could really have been a super-blast!
> 
> <Sigh>...Opportunity Lost.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
Yeah...but that's two more weeks!
;P imamommy






From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 31 03:17:50 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:17:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
In-Reply-To: <019901c4eede$0baf3a40$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
References: <2970.4.12.232.13.1104451348.squirrel@4.12.232.13>
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Saitaina said:

> Sympathize with me loves...share your
> pain stories so I dont' feel so icky.

Hm, I don't have insurance (couldn't afford it and any repairs), so when I
shattered a tooth during a slash convention (stupid - I chewed something
*too* hard), I had to just Advil myself up.  Hehe, I broke off a bit more
while waiting for my return trip to Florida and simply spat the tooth bit
onto the carpeting at the Washington DC airport.  Very lady-like, I know.
:-\

Two years later, I still have half a molar and it periodically flairs up. 
Nasty when you have to pop the 'pus' out of the gum during infections and
the gum area swells to double its size and turns purplish (normally pink).
 Oh yeah, and it's very... uncomfortable.

Bit happier now? {g}  At least you don't do 'home remedies'. {chuckle}

I know they can regrow new teeth via stem cells and insertion into the
gums, so I'm hoping the technology may one day be affordable.  I could use
a couple new teeth.  The rest are okay.

Dina





From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Fri Dec 31 03:28:44 2004
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:28:44 EST
Subject: fam/friend tolerance-MJ
Message-ID: <e2.9e68b1a.2f06216c@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/30/2004 5:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes:

> >> "I would say that my family and friends accept, in a general sort of 
> way,
> my obsession with HP, but they don't really participate.  I get a lot of
> the rolling-of-the-eyes kind of thing whenever I bring up anything even
> remotely related to the story lines.  And, God forbid they catch me
> watching one of the DVDs.  I feel like I've been caught watching porn!  :)"<<
> 
> 

MJ,
I LOL'd when I wrote what you had written above.  Thats exactly the response 
I get from my family and friends.  My almost 6 year old son is getting into 
the movies and is now asking the questions, and making the statements about the 
films, so he gets the eye-rolling bit from family and friends now too.  LOL  I 
feel like I have a partner in crime in him!  :)

Geez ... all this obsession, I wonder if we need a sort of 'AA' for HP fans?  
On second thought, naahhhhh ......

"Luna"


---------------------
"... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic.  I 
love Luna."
J.K. Rowling
Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004
(Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.)


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 03:37:04 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:37:04 -0800
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
References: <2970.4.12.232.13.1104451348.squirrel@4.12.232.13>    <019901c4eede$0baf3a40$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> <3759.4.12.232.13.1104463070.squirrel@4.12.232.13>
Message-ID: <024d01c4eee9$ff7588e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Dina wrote:

<so when I
shattered a tooth during a slash
convention >

That's what happened to me...minus the
slash convention and the too hard bit
*giggles*.  My tooth "exploded" while
eating a mentos and watching vids.  How
sad is it my tooth shattered while
eating MENTOS...a soft candy.  *hangs
head*

I'm so doped up on pain meds I'm
starting to colour my Gravitation
manga.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 31 04:14:25 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:14:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
In-Reply-To: <024d01c4eee9$ff7588e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
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Saitaina said:

> That's what happened to me...minus the
> slash convention and the too hard bit
> *giggles*.

The ironic thing was the food came from the BDSM 101 discussion/demo
panel. {chuckle}  Sadly, it's *true*.


> sad is it my tooth shattered while
> eating MENTOS...a soft candy.  *hangs
> head*

So much for the 'fresh maker'.  Mentos?!  Okay, you deserve some sympathy
and hugs for your unfortunate luck. {g}


> I'm so doped up on pain meds I'm
> starting to colour my Gravitation
> manga.

=:-o  I hope they aren't expensive.

Dina






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 04:27:52 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:27:52 -0800
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
References: <2970.4.12.232.13.1104451348.squirrel@4.12.232.13>       <019901c4eede$0baf3a40$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>    <3759.4.12.232.13.1104463070.squirrel@4.12.232.13>    <024d01c4eee9$ff7588e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> <3835.4.12.232.13.1104466465.squirrel@4.12.232.13>
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Dina wrote:

<I'm so doped up on pain meds I'm
> starting to colour my Gravitation
> manga.>

Just ten bucks a book, usual price for
manga.  I got bored with the black and
white pictures so I started adding
colour.  I've done this for years.  I
coloured in my Cathy comic book...well,
part of it.  It's a tenth anniversary
edition and it's huge.  I wanted to be
a colourist when I grew up when I was
ten so I practiced a lot.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From chnc1024 at AOL.COM  Fri Dec 31 05:06:00 2004
From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:06:00 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
Message-ID: <144.3c26fb7d.2f063838@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 12/30/2004 6:16:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
saitaina at frontiernet.net writes:

Saitaina  wrote:
Okay, what is up with going to the
dentist perfectly pain free (I  had a
hole in my tooth but it wasn't actually
bugging me.  And  returning with pain so
back you're having to take high
strength pain  pills?!



***************************************
 
Chancie:
 
Sorry you're in pain.  At least you've got the drugs though  right?
I can't really relate to dental surgery since I've only been to the dentist 
once in my whole life.(It was last year when I was pregnant with my 
daughter) The dentist said I only had 2 cavities, and that I needed to 
get all 4 wisdom teeth pulled because of the way the are growing.  
I haven't been able to get it done as of yet, because my hubby is 
in the Navy, and went on deployment just 10 days after her birth, 
and I didn't feel safe taking prescription meds when I was going to
be there by myself with her. Then after he came home I couldn't 
get it done because his Ships homeport was changing, and we 
were too busy planning a move. We are moved now, but since 
he had to go back to the ship until it moves up here, January 8th.
I won't be able to get it done until he returns.  
 
So if anyone can tell me what to expect, I would greatly appreciate  it.
I'm really nervous, and was just wondering if anyone could tell me if  its
really as bad as I've heard.  
 
Chancie~who assumes it can't be worse than childbirth...
Or at lest hope's not anyway.


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 05:13:33 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:13:33 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
References: <144.3c26fb7d.2f063838@aol.com>
Message-ID: <027401c4eef7$7a2822c0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Chancie wrote:

<I'm really nervous, and was just
wondering if anyone could tell me if
its
really as bad as I've heard.>

S'not that bad, I had it done when I
was eighteen or so.  Hurts for a bit
but not as bad as what I'm going
through now.  Just don't suck on
anything like a cigarette or a straw
afterwards.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 31 05:41:28 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:41:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
In-Reply-To: <026a01c4eef1$189714e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
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Saitaina said:

> Just ten bucks a book, usual price for
> manga.  I got bored with the black and

That's good. {g}  I wouldn't dare do that to most of mine.  Though, I did
'Fahrenheit 451' an Anne Rice book to roast some marshmellows.  I like
mine blackened.  Yummy.


> white pictures so I started adding
> colour.  I've done this for years.  I
> coloured in my Cathy comic book...well,
> part of it.  It's a tenth anniversary
> edition and it's huge.  I wanted to be
> a colourist when I grew up when I was
> ten so I practiced a lot.

:-)  Pencils? Pastels? Paints? Penises?  Favorites used to color?

Dina






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 06:37:22 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:37:22 -0800
Subject: Dental stories Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OW!
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Dina wrote:

<:-)  Pencils? Pastels? Paints?
Penises?  Favorites used to color?>

Pencils and Crayons for the textured
areas to blend it better.  I only use
paint on my wall or canvas (which is
actually the same thing since I dont'
have canvas right now and have taken to
paining my pictures on the walls.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri Dec 31 09:22:23 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:22:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Earth's days are shorter (via the recent earthquake)
Message-ID: <3009.4.47.27.208.1104484943.squirrel@4.47.27.208>

This is a paragraph from the Chicago Tribune:
[[
Incredibly, the magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck off Sumatra on Sunday
morning caused a vertical displacement of so much material that the
rotation period of the Earth has been permanently altered.
[snippity snip]
It is estimated that during the Sumatran quake, a block of material
roughly 600 miles in length and 100 miles in width fell 30 feet closer to
the Earth's axis of rotation. The planet has responded by rotating more
rapidly, albeit ever so slightly, and our 24-hour days are now one
ten-thousandth second shorter.
]]

Floridians thought Mother Nature was pissed at them in 2004...
Southeastern Asia must've really blew it.  I've seen the reports and the
devastation is horrible.  Then there's the geographic consequences where
it's estimated the entire island of Sumatra moved about 100 feet to the
southeast.  Heck, some geologists are reporting 'shockwaves' are as
far-reaching as the eastern US states (not noticeable unless you have high
tech gadgets).

Amazon.com has their Red Cross donation link up along with other websites
and journals.

Dina






From SongBird3411 at aol.com  Fri Dec 31 09:53:35 2004
From: SongBird3411 at aol.com (SongBird3411 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:53:35 -0000
Subject: Question about JKR site recent updates
Message-ID: <cr37iv+9cps@eGroups.com>


Hello all.  In the updates to JKR's site on the 10th, there were 
updates to the Rumors section.  I saw a lot of this stuff getting 
discussed over at the main list.  However, in my admitedly hasty scan 
of topics there, I saw little discussion about one point:  The method 
of communication the Order uses.  I only saw a few posts about this, 
and most of them were speculation on what the method would be.  One 
referenced some silvery material that came out of DD's wand in GOF.  
Though, no canon quote seemed to be provided with this. 

So, can someone tell me if there ever was any other discussion of 
this point at the main list since this issue was raised at JKR's 
site.  JKR was pretty specific in her answer.  The method needed only 
a wand and we have already seen it in use by an Order member.  I drew 
at blank at this and was hoping some list member with a better memory 
than me would have pinpointed it.  Did I miss it on the list?

I hate using Yahoomort to search for things.  I was hoping someone 
here might be able to answer.  I really didn't want to ask at the 
main list if this has already been discussed.

Thanks.

Mindy






From udderpd at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 31 10:58:19 2004
From: udderpd at yahoo.co.uk (udder_pen_dragon)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:58:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <20041230232206.73026.qmail@web25310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



>From UdderPD

While sorting through files on my PC I came accross this;

                        Eye halve a spelling chequer,

 

                        it came with my pea sea.

 

                        It plane lea marques four my revue,

 

                        miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

 

  

                        Eye strike a key and type a word,

 

                        and weight four it two say.

 

                        weather eye is wrong oar write,

 

                        It shows me strait a weigh.

 

 

                        As soon as a mist ache is maid,

 

                        it nose bee fore two long.

 

                        And eye can put the error rite,

 

                        its rare lea ever wrong.

 

  

                        Eye halve run this poem threw it,

 

                        I am shore your pleased two no.

 

                        Its letter perfect awl the weigh,

 

                        my chequer tolled me sew.

 

 

 

                        Sauce unknown.

This I now dedicate to all Fiction Alley Moderators who believe that a comma is more important than the story or the meaning of words.

Have a nice day

UdderPD



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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 12:46:06 2004
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:46:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about JKR site recent updates
In-Reply-To: <cr37iv+9cps@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20041231124606.72469.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>



SongBird3411 at aol.com wrote:

Hello all.  In the updates to JKR's site on the 10th, there were 
updates to the Rumors section.  I saw a lot of this stuff getting 
discussed over at the main list.  However, in my admitedly hasty scan 
of topics there, I saw little discussion about one point:  The method 
of communication the Order uses.  I only saw a few posts about this, 
and most of them were speculation on what the method would be.  One 
referenced some silvery material that came out of DD's wand in GOF.  
Though, no canon quote seemed to be provided with this. 
<snip>

I do not have my books in front of me but this is from GOF where Harry and Krum walk away from the newly growing maze (when told what the 3rd task will be).  Krum wants to know if Rita is right about Harry/Hermione being a ship.  Crouch Sr stumbles out of the forest and Harry goes to get DD.  When they come back and Couch Sr is gone and Krum has been attacked, DD uses his wand to produce a silvery substance that I think Harry says looks like a bird and it shoots off to Hagrid's hut.


So, can someone tell me if there ever was any other discussion of 
this point at the main list since this issue was raised at JKR's 
site.  JKR was pretty specific in her answer.  The method needed only 
a wand and we have already seen it in use by an Order member.  I drew 
at blank at this and was hoping some list member with a better memory 
than me would have pinpointed it.  Did I miss it on the list?

I hate using Yahoomort to search for things.  I was hoping someone 
here might be able to answer.  I really didn't want to ask at the 
main list if this has already been discussed.

Thanks.

Mindy



I do not know off hand what threads there are that discuss it.  I do know that it has been discussed briefly.  Do not be worried about the main list.  On any given day, the same question can be the most brilliant thing or you will have the list elves screaming at you.  Just take it all in stride and ask away.  There are some that are un-named that, while I LOVE their posts, tend to take the main list a little tooooooo seriously.  I have been posting there for quite a while and from time to time swear that I am only going to lurk (but end up posting after all- I am a big mouth who can't keep her mouth shut and it drives some of the ones on that list totally nuts!!).

moonmyyst (who has not posted any this week because her dad died on monday and is back now and ready for a good laugh)


		
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 31 15:22:45 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:22:45 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002601c4ef4c$94ab6530$0400a8c0@pensive>

That was funny.  Especially because I know how absurdly odd a spell checker
and grammar checker can be!  I don't write fan fiction, but I do write other
things.  After I spell check a document, I still go back and read it line by
line to ensure its accuracy, because the spell checker won't catch things
like the wrong use of "to, too or two" or transposing letters, which I do
when I'm typing fast.  I've read some fan fiction that makes me shudder from
all the grammatical errors and actually detracts from my ability to enjoy
the story.  But I know for sure, at least with Microsoft word, if I made al
the changes the spell checker suggests, I'd have some extremely unreadable
documents!  I hope it's ok to pass along this poem.  I've got some other
writer friends who will love it!

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: udder_pen_dragon [mailto:udderpd at yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 3:58 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of
Humour)





>From UdderPD

While sorting through files on my PC I came accross this;

                        Eye halve a spelling chequer,

 

                        it came with my pea sea.

 

                        It plane lea marques four my revue,

 

                        miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

 

  

                        Eye strike a key and type a word,

 

                        and weight four it two say.

 

                        weather eye is wrong oar write,

 

                        It shows me strait a weigh.

 

 

                        As soon as a mist ache is maid,

 

                        it nose bee fore two long.

 

                        And eye can put the error rite,

 

                        its rare lea ever wrong.

 

  

                        Eye halve run this poem threw it,

 

                        I am shore your pleased two no.

 

                        Its letter perfect awl the weigh,

 

                        my chequer tolled me sew.

 

 

 

                        Sauce unknown.

This I now dedicate to all Fiction Alley Moderators who believe that a comma
is more important than the story or the meaning of words.

Have a nice day

UdderPD



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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 31 15:26:37 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:26:37 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about JKR site recent updates
In-Reply-To: <20041231124606.72469.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002701c4ef4d$1f3f2a10$0400a8c0@pensive>

I don't have print books handy, and the braille books don't have
corresponding page numbers.  However, the chapter in GOF where Dumbledore
summons Hagrid is called 

THE MADNESS OF MR. CROUCH

Or at least I think that's what it's called.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: K G [mailto:moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:46 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about JKR site recent updates





SongBird3411 at aol.com wrote:

Hello all.  In the updates to JKR's site on the 10th, there were 
updates to the Rumors section.  I saw a lot of this stuff getting 
discussed over at the main list.  However, in my admitedly hasty scan 
of topics there, I saw little discussion about one point:  The method 
of communication the Order uses.  I only saw a few posts about this, 
and most of them were speculation on what the method would be.  One 
referenced some silvery material that came out of DD's wand in GOF.  
Though, no canon quote seemed to be provided with this. 
<snip>

I do not have my books in front of me but this is from GOF where Harry and
Krum walk away from the newly growing maze (when told what the 3rd task will
be).  Krum wants to know if Rita is right about Harry/Hermione being a ship.
Crouch Sr stumbles out of the forest and Harry goes to get DD.  When they
come back and Couch Sr is gone and Krum has been attacked, DD uses his wand
to produce a silvery substance that I think Harry says looks like a bird and
it shoots off to Hagrid's hut.


So, can someone tell me if there ever was any other discussion of 
this point at the main list since this issue was raised at JKR's 
site.  JKR was pretty specific in her answer.  The method needed only 
a wand and we have already seen it in use by an Order member.  I drew 
at blank at this and was hoping some list member with a better memory 
than me would have pinpointed it.  Did I miss it on the list?

I hate using Yahoomort to search for things.  I was hoping someone 
here might be able to answer.  I really didn't want to ask at the 
main list if this has already been discussed.

Thanks.

Mindy



I do not know off hand what threads there are that discuss it.  I do know
that it has been discussed briefly.  Do not be worried about the main list.
On any given day, the same question can be the most brilliant thing or you
will have the list elves screaming at you.  Just take it all in stride and
ask away.  There are some that are un-named that, while I LOVE their posts,
tend to take the main list a little tooooooo seriously.  I have been posting
there for quite a while and from time to time swear that I am only going to
lurk (but end up posting after all- I am a big mouth who can't keep her
mouth shut and it drives some of the ones on that list totally nuts!!).

moonmyyst (who has not posted any this week because her dad died on monday
and is back now and ready for a good laugh)


		
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 31 15:29:46 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:29:46 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about JKR site recent updates
In-Reply-To: <20041231124606.72469.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002801c4ef4d$90023300$0400a8c0@pensive>

Dear Moonmyyst,

I am very sorry to hear about your dad.  I lost mine seven years ago, and I
still miss him.  I just wanted to let you know I'll be thinking of you and
you have my deepest sympathy.

And by the way, I always enjoy your posts on the main list!  You've often
given me food for thought, though I rarely post.


Anyway, take care.  You can only get through it one day at a time.  

Sherry


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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:46 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about JKR site recent updates





SongBird3411 at aol.com wrote:

Hello all.  In the updates to JKR's site on the 10th, there were 
updates to the Rumors section.  I saw a lot of this stuff getting 
discussed over at the main list.  However, in my admitedly hasty scan 
of topics there, I saw little discussion about one point:  The method 
of communication the Order uses.  I only saw a few posts about this, 
and most of them were speculation on what the method would be.  One 
referenced some silvery material that came out of DD's wand in GOF.  
Though, no canon quote seemed to be provided with this. 
<snip>

I do not have my books in front of me but this is from GOF where Harry and
Krum walk away from the newly growing maze (when told what the 3rd task will
be).  Krum wants to know if Rita is right about Harry/Hermione being a ship.
Crouch Sr stumbles out of the forest and Harry goes to get DD.  When they
come back and Couch Sr is gone and Krum has been attacked, DD uses his wand
to produce a silvery substance that I think Harry says looks like a bird and
it shoots off to Hagrid's hut.


So, can someone tell me if there ever was any other discussion of 
this point at the main list since this issue was raised at JKR's 
site.  JKR was pretty specific in her answer.  The method needed only 
a wand and we have already seen it in use by an Order member.  I drew 
at blank at this and was hoping some list member with a better memory 
than me would have pinpointed it.  Did I miss it on the list?

I hate using Yahoomort to search for things.  I was hoping someone 
here might be able to answer.  I really didn't want to ask at the 
main list if this has already been discussed.

Thanks.

Mindy



I do not know off hand what threads there are that discuss it.  I do know
that it has been discussed briefly.  Do not be worried about the main list.
On any given day, the same question can be the most brilliant thing or you
will have the list elves screaming at you.  Just take it all in stride and
ask away.  There are some that are un-named that, while I LOVE their posts,
tend to take the main list a little tooooooo seriously.  I have been posting
there for quite a while and from time to time swear that I am only going to
lurk (but end up posting after all- I am a big mouth who can't keep her
mouth shut and it drives some of the ones on that list totally nuts!!).

moonmyyst (who has not posted any this week because her dad died on monday
and is back now and ready for a good laugh)


		
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From heidi at heidi8.com  Fri Dec 31 16:33:05 2004
From: heidi at heidi8.com (Heidi)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:33:05 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20041230232206.73026.qmail@web25310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	 <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:58:19 +0000 (GMT), udder_pen_dragon
<udderpd at yahoo.co.uk> pasted in a poem that's been passed around
online for years regarding the faliability of spell checkers, and
commented,


> This I now dedicate to all Fiction Alley Moderators who believe that a comma is more important than the story or the meaning of words.
> 


And, as I'm one of the FA admins, I'm not really sure how to take
that, so I'm asking all of you what your thoughts on stories are.

Is the meaning of the words more important than the punctuation of
those words, or can they be equally important? In other words, if you
read the following, would you think it was good or sloppy:

The hottest day of the summer, so, far was drawing to a close... And a
drowsy silence lay over the large square houses of Private Drive the
only person - left outside - was a teenage boy who was lying, flat on
his back, in a flowerbed outside number four."


What about:
Dumbeldoor lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon
glasses. "It is time" He said "For me to tell you what I should have
told you five years ago Harry please sit down I am going to tell you
everything."

The prose in those sentences is word for word from OOTP, but I've
mucked up the punctuation and proper names in ways that we often see
on fics submitted to FictionAlley. As it happens, on FA, we have two
zones of rules for grammar & spelling - one set of unforgivables, and
one set of ordinary writing errors. The unforgivables include the
spelling of names of main characters (as defined by the Lexicon), the
improper use of apostrophes  and the punctuation of quotations, which
does incorporate comma usage.  Two or more inclusions of any
unforgivable means a fic will be sent back to the author for editing,
accompanied by a list of places on FA where one can go to learn about
things like quotation punctuation
(http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34469
.

The ordinary writing errors include misspelling ordinary words,
obviously incorrect punctuation usage, using numerals instead of
spelling out numbers ("16" instead of "sixteen", for example) - stuff
like that. As we say on the site, "Clearly, sentence fragments, using
hyphens or commas instead of semicolons, or italicizing thoughts are
all things which are acceptable if done consistently and for stylistic
purposes. JKR's done it; why shouldn't fanfic writers?"

So you might ask, why do we do this? 

There's a few reasons:
A. When a story has sloppy or obviously incorrect grammar, it makes it
less enjoyable to read for many, many people. Let's look at a fic of
mine by way of example - which reads better? Version one or version
two?

ONE:

"Wheres the location of Potters secret hideout?" The inquisitor asked
in a voice that made even Ministry enforcers tremble. His wand, was at
the ready; and the word crucheo was forming in his throat.

"#4 Prevet Drive. Would you like me to take you there," The captive
replied in a voice filled with light and sincerity.

The inquisitor's wand dropped to the floor, and he moved away from the
script without even thinking: "Take me? What sort of game are you
playing Grifendoor? Shouldnt you be braver when faced with a cunning
death eater like me?"

TWO:

"Where is the location of Potter's secret hideout?" the inquisitor
asked in a voice that made even Ministry enforcers tremble. His wand
was at the ready and the word Cruicio was forming in his throat.

"Number Four Privet Drive. Would you like me to take you there?" the
captive replied in a voice filled with light and sincerity.

The inquisitor's wand dropped to the floor, and he moved away from the
script without even thinking. "Take me? What sort of game are you
playing, Gryffindor? Shouldn't you be braver when faced with a cunning
Death Eater like me?"

***

The words are identical; the commas and punctuation are different, as
is some of the spelling. And it makes a difference in the readability
of the fics. Now, we wouldn't send a fic back to the author if the
only issue with it was the colon before the quotation in the last para
in the first example. And we wouldn't even send it back if that error,
and a misspelling of Privet Drive were present. But an accumulation of
errors, especially easy-to-learn-and-fix ones like those regarding
quotation punctuation and major-character-name-spelling, does cause us
to send a fic back for editing. And, of course, no matter how many
times it's submitted, once it's bereft of unforgivables and reasonably
okay on the other fronts, we do upload it.

B. We're a 501(c)(3) educational entity, so it is important to us, as
regards our IRS status, to provide means for people to learn and
improve their writing. That is one of the pillars of our existence,
and if we uploaded fics without concern for their reasonable adherence
to grammar and spelling standards, we would be shirking this
fundamendal purpose of our existence. But because we recognize that
everyone has different preferences in terms of what they enjoy
reading, in terms of genre, style, plot, etc., we fics that cover a
wide range of characterisations, plot, and even canon adherence (if
you label it AU, we don't care what degree of "canon error" it
contains - we'll upload it). It's a fundamental balance that seems to
work for most people, and it's a contrast to other archives which look
for certain characterisations and sometimes even plots in the fics
they upload.

We do recognize that it's frustrating to have your fic sent back for
editing - and we've learned over the years that regardless of
someone's level of education, it's possible, and in fact likely, that
they've never learned how to punctuate dialogue - so we have tutorials
to explain it (http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34469),
and we even have a team who beta read snips of stories
(http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=151)
to explain how to use "fiction writing" grammar in fanfics.

In other words, in processing fics, we don't look to the plot or
characterisation in the story itself - too many people submit one
chapter at a time, from a longer fic, so we don't have the context to
look to anyway, and asking people to wait until a fic is done before
submitting it has been deemed an unfair burden on both readers and
writers. And we don't look to the inherent meaning of the individual
words, although we do send fics back if they have a number of
homophones & homonyms. We look for some basics of structure and
grammar, and we think that those basics are things every writer should
aspire to understanding.

So, thoughts? 

Heidi, explaining but not technically on behalf of FA



From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 31 17:20:11 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:20:11 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <5913e6f8041231083335d572d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c4ef5c$fd6daeb0$0400a8c0@pensive>

I, for one, really appreciate all the hard work of the admin team at Fiction
Alley.  Yesterday, I was reading a fic, that had a fairly good plot, but the
grammar was so bad, it distracted me from the story.  The author used
repeated instances of incorrect words.  Things like, "has" when it should
have been "have", or "came" when it should have been "come".  And of course,
the repeated use of the word "form" when the author meant "from", which is a
really easy mistake to do.  I am a fast typist, and sometimes, I transpose
letters, form and from being a good example.  I always read over my writing
to try to find such things.

I also use screen reading software to operate a computer.  I can't express
how difficult it can be to have to listen to a poorly spelled or punctuated
email message or fan fic, since that's the topic.  Without the proper
punctuation, the voice can just drone on and on, with no pauses, and the
content can be hard to understand.  My personal biggest gripe is the use of
an apostrophe instead of quotes in dialog.  I can adjust my screen reader's
punctuation settings, so it doesn't say every period, coma, quote or
question mark.  It will pause, or give a questing inflection instead of
naming the punctuation.  However, unless I turn it off completely, it does
say apostrophe, when that symbol is used instead of a quote.  For example,
here is written out, the way my screen reader might say a line of dialog
that uses apostrophes, instead of quotes.  This is what I will hear.

apostrophe, Hi.   how are you? apostrophe she said, apostrophe how was your
summer? apostrophe

I usually won't even read a story that does that because the constant
apostrophe drives me right out of my mind.  I don't know if this is part of
the posting guidelines, or if there is a legitimate reason for the use of an
apostrophe instead of a quotation mark.

anyway, I just wanted to chime in about grammar, because in some ways, I
think the internet age has caused a lot of people to grow lax on the issue.
It's becoming a big problem in business.

Oh, another personal dislike--though I don't see this in fics, more often in
email--is the use of .. or ... between phrases, instead of using sentence
structure and periods.  Again, and example of how the screen reader might
read this stuff would be:

I went shopping today dot dot dot I bought some books dot dot dot I also met
my friends for lunch dot dot dot and then we all went to a movie dot dot dot
it was a fun day dot dot dot

Try reading that aloud.  (shudders and wrenches hair out by the roots!)

Ok, ok.  I'll shut up now!  However, I know that I definitely appreciate the
well written and well plotted stories.  I can't enjoy one without the other.
In fact, in my own personal writing, a friend of mine, who is almost as
particular as I am, checks everything I'm writing for publication to try to
catch the things I miss.  

Keep up the good work, Heidi, and all the admins!

Sherry



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From: Heidi [mailto:heidi at heidi8.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:33 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of
Humour)



On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:58:19 +0000 (GMT), udder_pen_dragon
<udderpd at yahoo.co.uk> pasted in a poem that's been passed around
online for years regarding the faliability of spell checkers, and
commented,


> This I now dedicate to all Fiction Alley Moderators who believe that a
comma is more important than the story or the meaning of words.
> 


And, as I'm one of the FA admins, I'm not really sure how to take
that, so I'm asking all of you what your thoughts on stories are.

Is the meaning of the words more important than the punctuation of
those words, or can they be equally important? In other words, if you
read the following, would you think it was good or sloppy:

The hottest day of the summer, so, far was drawing to a close... And a
drowsy silence lay over the large square houses of Private Drive the
only person - left outside - was a teenage boy who was lying, flat on
his back, in a flowerbed outside number four."


What about:
Dumbeldoor lowered his hands and surveyed Harry through his half-moon
glasses. "It is time" He said "For me to tell you what I should have
told you five years ago Harry please sit down I am going to tell you
everything."

The prose in those sentences is word for word from OOTP, but I've
mucked up the punctuation and proper names in ways that we often see
on fics submitted to FictionAlley. As it happens, on FA, we have two
zones of rules for grammar & spelling - one set of unforgivables, and
one set of ordinary writing errors. The unforgivables include the
spelling of names of main characters (as defined by the Lexicon), the
improper use of apostrophes  and the punctuation of quotations, which
does incorporate comma usage.  Two or more inclusions of any
unforgivable means a fic will be sent back to the author for editing,
accompanied by a list of places on FA where one can go to learn about
things like quotation punctuation
(http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threa
did=34469
.

The ordinary writing errors include misspelling ordinary words,
obviously incorrect punctuation usage, using numerals instead of
spelling out numbers ("16" instead of "sixteen", for example) - stuff
like that. As we say on the site, "Clearly, sentence fragments, using
hyphens or commas instead of semicolons, or italicizing thoughts are
all things which are acceptable if done consistently and for stylistic
purposes. JKR's done it; why shouldn't fanfic writers?"

So you might ask, why do we do this? 

There's a few reasons:
A. When a story has sloppy or obviously incorrect grammar, it makes it
less enjoyable to read for many, many people. Let's look at a fic of
mine by way of example - which reads better? Version one or version
two?

ONE:

"Wheres the location of Potters secret hideout?" The inquisitor asked
in a voice that made even Ministry enforcers tremble. His wand, was at
the ready; and the word crucheo was forming in his throat.

"#4 Prevet Drive. Would you like me to take you there," The captive
replied in a voice filled with light and sincerity.

The inquisitor's wand dropped to the floor, and he moved away from the
script without even thinking: "Take me? What sort of game are you
playing Grifendoor? Shouldnt you be braver when faced with a cunning
death eater like me?"

TWO:

"Where is the location of Potter's secret hideout?" the inquisitor
asked in a voice that made even Ministry enforcers tremble. His wand
was at the ready and the word Cruicio was forming in his throat.

"Number Four Privet Drive. Would you like me to take you there?" the
captive replied in a voice filled with light and sincerity.

The inquisitor's wand dropped to the floor, and he moved away from the
script without even thinking. "Take me? What sort of game are you
playing, Gryffindor? Shouldn't you be braver when faced with a cunning
Death Eater like me?"

***

The words are identical; the commas and punctuation are different, as
is some of the spelling. And it makes a difference in the readability
of the fics. Now, we wouldn't send a fic back to the author if the
only issue with it was the colon before the quotation in the last para
in the first example. And we wouldn't even send it back if that error,
and a misspelling of Privet Drive were present. But an accumulation of
errors, especially easy-to-learn-and-fix ones like those regarding
quotation punctuation and major-character-name-spelling, does cause us
to send a fic back for editing. And, of course, no matter how many
times it's submitted, once it's bereft of unforgivables and reasonably
okay on the other fronts, we do upload it.

B. We're a 501(c)(3) educational entity, so it is important to us, as
regards our IRS status, to provide means for people to learn and
improve their writing. That is one of the pillars of our existence,
and if we uploaded fics without concern for their reasonable adherence
to grammar and spelling standards, we would be shirking this
fundamendal purpose of our existence. But because we recognize that
everyone has different preferences in terms of what they enjoy
reading, in terms of genre, style, plot, etc., we fics that cover a
wide range of characterisations, plot, and even canon adherence (if
you label it AU, we don't care what degree of "canon error" it
contains - we'll upload it). It's a fundamental balance that seems to
work for most people, and it's a contrast to other archives which look
for certain characterisations and sometimes even plots in the fics
they upload.

We do recognize that it's frustrating to have your fic sent back for
editing - and we've learned over the years that regardless of
someone's level of education, it's possible, and in fact likely, that
they've never learned how to punctuate dialogue - so we have tutorials
to explain it
(http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threa
did=34469),
and we even have a team who beta read snips of stories
(http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&for
umid=151)
to explain how to use "fiction writing" grammar in fanfics.

In other words, in processing fics, we don't look to the plot or
characterisation in the story itself - too many people submit one
chapter at a time, from a longer fic, so we don't have the context to
look to anyway, and asking people to wait until a fic is done before
submitting it has been deemed an unfair burden on both readers and
writers. And we don't look to the inherent meaning of the individual
words, although we do send fics back if they have a number of
homophones & homonyms. We look for some basics of structure and
grammar, and we think that those basics are things every writer should
aspire to understanding.

So, thoughts? 

Heidi, explaining but not technically on behalf of FA



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From psychic_serpent at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 17:28:19 2004
From: psychic_serpent at yahoo.com (psychic_serpent)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:28:19 -0000
Subject: Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cr427j+ftnt@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, udder_pen_dragon 
<udderpd at y...> wrote:
>                         Eye halve run this poem threw it,
>                         I am shore your pleased two no.
>                         Its letter perfect awl the weigh,
>                         my chequer tolled me sew.
> 
>                         Sauce unknown.
> 
> This I now dedicate to all Fiction Alley Moderators who believe 
> that a comma is more important than the story or the meaning of 
> words.

A few points:

1) Thanks for pointing out that you cannot rely upon a spell checker 
(or "chequer") to eliminate misspellings from writing.  If you use 
the wrong word but something that is still a word a spell checker 
will not catch it.  At FA we get people all of the time who are 
flagged for having too many spelling errors and say, "But I ran it 
through a spell checker!"

2) You'll notice that in the quoted section above another error that 
was (hopefully) purposefully included was the wrong version 
of "its."  This is one of the FA Unforgivable Errors, chiefly 
because we have found that authors who make errors with apostrophes 
tend to do so all through their submissions and we felt it was an 
onerous chore for fic screeners to have to wade through the entire 
thing to count all of the apostrophe errors.  

This is also why we only base the number of allowable errors in a 
submission on its length up to a point; the length may mean that 
more than thirty errors COULD be allowed but we feel that it is also 
onerous to force screeners to count up more than thirty errors in 
any one file and have made that our error cap, regardless of length.

3) Commas are very, very important, especially in dialogue 
punctuation.  Correctly capitalizing or not capitalizing the text 
adjacent to the dialogue is also important, as well as using an 
appropriate verb to describe the act of speech.  //"Please come in," 
she stepped back to allow them to enter.//  This is not correct.  A 
sentence containing a quote must have a subject (speaker), speaking 
verb and object (the quote itself).  This is akin to writing //She 
yelled her food.//  The verb and object simply do not match.  (So, 
you see, we DO believe that the meaning of words is important.)  If 
you are unwilling to correctly format your dialogue, even though you 
are writing for fun, please start your own archive; do not put 
people through reading such stuff--which is NOT fun--unless they 
make the mistake of going to your personal archive.

4) At FA the story is the last thing we find to be important since 
we do not judge anyone's actual plotting, charactization, etc.  As 
Heidi noted this would be far too subjective.  We do require 
something to tie a work to the Potterverse (since it is a Harry 
Potter archive) but we also allow virtually anything if a fic is 
labeled an AU (alternate universe).  Trust me, you really wouldn't 
want us judging plots and other content-based elements of our 
submissions.  Everyone has a different idea about what would be an 
acceptable submission; we use the most objective criteria possible 
to screen submissions but do not require perfection--just 
competence.  

As mentioned, there is an "allowable" error count for all 
submissions based on length, and when a submission is rather long we 
allow a maximum of thirty errors.  This means that a longish 
submission with twenty-eight errors will be uploaded as long as none 
are Unforgivables, so you WILL see fics with errors on the site. We 
do not claim otherwise.  This still means that a great deal of 
material is rejected for not meeting these standards, which are 
hardly draconian.  If you believe that you are writing a better 
story, as far as content, than the great unwashed masses, then you 
should also move yourself to put your story's best foot forward in 
terms of the "window dressing."  Don't expect someone to "look past" 
egregious errors to find your fabulous story; that is unfair and 
unreasonable.

5) A woman in Columbus, Ohio had a disagreement with the 
owner/manager of a local boutique (she was not permitted to return 
an item without a receipt) and so she wrote to the New York Times 
about it. Actually, that didn't happen, but that is analagous to 
your having a problem with the standards at FA and posting here 
about it.  You are free to vent, of course, as is anyone (we have 
never attempted to quash dissent), but it is still odd to do it in 
this venue and does not reflect well on you, since you are by 
implication revealing to quite a lot of people that you were 
evidently incapable of adhering to some really very reasonable and 
simple submission standards.

6) A few good beta readers could help you a great deal and I highly 
recommend that you look for some if you do not feel up to doing your 
own dialogue formatting.  I use about six beta readers, two of which 
do Britpicking.  The importance of other eyes cannot ever be 
discounted.  

Best of luck,

Barb (not speaking for FA Mods)






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 18:58:37 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:58:37 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
References: <20041230232206.73026.qmail@web25310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041231105819.73235.qmail@web25307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <5913e6f8041231083335d572d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02f601c4ef6a$be083fc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Heidi wrote:

<I'm asking all of you what your
thoughts on stories are.>

As someone who has gotten at least
every chapter and story sent back once
from FA due to punctuation and
grammar...

I'm thankful for FA's strict standards.
Granted occasionally it's annoying
(like on the fifth time it's been sent
back to me), but without it I would
never have improved as a writer.

While I'll always be a fan of simply
telling a good tale, the little things
are important after everything is said
and done.  The words don't mean much if
you're too busy mentally correcting
everything a writer writes.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 22:57:14 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:57:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <02f601c4ef6a$be083fc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <20041231225714.99533.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>

 > Heidi wrote:
> 
> <I'm asking all of you what your
> thoughts on stories are.>
> 
Saitaina:
<snip>
> While I'll always be a fan of simply
> telling a good tale, the little things
> are important after everything is said
> and done.  The words don't mean much if
> you're too busy mentally correcting
> everything a writer writes.
> 
Sheryll:
Saitaina has a very good point. There's nothing more
distracting than noticing errors, both technical ones
(spelling, grammar, etc) and factual ones. I think not
doing adequate research is equally distracting to the
SPaG mistakes. 

Something else that fails to impress are fic writers
who blow it off when you point out errors in their
fics by saying, "Well, JKR is bad at maths so I'm
entitled to make errors, too." ;-)

Sheryll

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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 22:57:21 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:57:21 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
References: <20041231225714.99533.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <037e01c4ef8c$163d6a00$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Sheryll wrote:

<Something else that fails to impress
are fic writers
who blow it off when you point out
errors in their
fics by saying, "Well, JKR is bad at
maths so I'm
entitled to make errors, too." ;-)>

GAH!  That is soo annoying.  I mean,
yeah, it's hard on writers when
mistakes are pointed out, we like to
think we're perfect :o), but I know I
make mistakes, I make them often (this
is why I have several beta's), and I'm
thankful to my readers who point them
out.  It makes me a better writer.  I
think writers should be more grateful
to those kind readers who point out
problems...without them, and our beta's
and the lovely coders at FA who yell at
us, we'd all just suck.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 23:11:45 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:11:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
In-Reply-To: <037e01c4ef8c$163d6a00$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <20041231231145.91735.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Saitaina <saitaina at frontiernet.net> wrote: 
> 
> Sheryll wrote:
> 
> <Something else that fails to impress
> are fic writers
> who blow it off when you point out
> errors in their
> fics by saying, "Well, JKR is bad at
> maths so I'm
> entitled to make errors, too." ;-)>
> 
Saitaina:
> GAH!  That is soo annoying.  I mean,
> yeah, it's hard on writers when
> mistakes are pointed out, we like to
> think we're perfect :o), but I know I
> make mistakes, I make them often (this
> is why I have several beta's), and I'm
> thankful to my readers who point them
> out.  It makes me a better writer.  I
> think writers should be more grateful
> to those kind readers who point out
> problems...without them, and our beta's
> and the lovely coders at FA who yell at
> us, we'd all just suck.
> 
Sheryll again:
Oh, yes, I'd never review a fic just to point out
errors. I have far to much respect for the hard work
that goes into writing to do that. And if there are
errors to point out, I never do so without first
saying what I like about the story. 

Having someone who's willing to beta stories is a
blessing, I'm sure. Especially if they can explain
*why* things need to be changed, which is how we all
learn not to make those mistakes. Speaking for myself,
I don't learn much when someone else just corrects my
mistakes. Tell me where I went wrong and I'll learn
much quicker. 

I doubt you'd all suck without the wonderful
assistance! Perhaps have a few less glowing reviews,
but not suck. :)

Sheryll, who wishes she still had time to beta 

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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Dec 31 23:22:22 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:22:22 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Info for FF moderators and writers. (sort of Humour)
References: <20041231231145.91735.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03ba01c4ef8f$955edb40$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Sheryll wrote:

<I doubt you'd all suck without the
wonderful
assistance! Perhaps have a few less
glowing reviews,
but not suck. :)>

Well, you'd know considering you've
seen my work before it was edited.  I
miss you as my beta, my new one's known
me to long and is mean to me.  *pouts*
She makes me work to hard.

Saitaina
****
"I will not lick the manga...I will not
lick the manga..."

I'm cute... and a psycho. Hm, it evens
out!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on
all this and plow face-first into a
tree because I was looking the wrong
bloody way. And I'll still be having a
better day than I am today."


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 23:47:21 2004
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:47:21 -0000
Subject: Great News....
Message-ID: <cr4oe9+fkgo@eGroups.com>


Hey guess what people I had my second doctor visit today and I got 
to hear the baby's heart beat and it was good and strong and I found 
out what the sex of the baby is. Its going to be a boy. We wanted a 
girl but hey we dont mind its a boy we will love it the same. I am 
so happy and excited. My fiancee was more relived and told me at 
least he doesnt have to play Barbies with his son. We already picked 
out a name for it, Jeremy David. Jeremy is named after a friend who 
helped turned my life around and he died last year on the 28th of 
December from Muscular Dystraphy and David is from my Dad's brother 
who died when I was young so I dont remember him but I told my dad 
what I was going to name him and he was happy that I was carrying on 
his brothers name. I called my dad to tell him the news and he said 
he knew we were going to have a boy. I was surprise the doctor could 
actually tell what the sex of the baby is a 4 months but he just 
stuck his behind up to the camera and we can see it. 
Also Happy New Years to you guys hope you stay safe and dont drink 
and drive. I cant belive that 2004 came by so quickly watch June 
come so fast that the baby will be ready to come out when I am not 
even ready for it. Im just getting use to it and so far the morning 
sickness has almost completly gone away but most I get nausea and 
dont want to eat in the morning and wake up every 3 hours during the 
night except last night I was awake every hour to go to the bathroom 
for drinking to much water and cherry coke celebrating my fiancees 
birthday. I already cut back on caffine.

Happy New Year yall remember dont drink and drive.

Tasha






From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Fri Dec 31 23:50:16 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:50:16 -0000
Subject: Apostrophes and quotes (was Info for FF moderators and writers.)
In-Reply-To: <003d01c4ef5c$fd6daeb0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <cr4ojo+o58d@eGroups.com>


Sherry wrote:

> I also use screen reading software to operate a computer.  I can't 
express
> how difficult it can be to have to listen to a poorly spelled or 
punctuated
> email message or fan fic, since that's the topic.  Without the 
proper
> punctuation, the voice can just drone on and on, with no pauses, 
and the
> content can be hard to understand.  My personal biggest gripe is 
the use of
> an apostrophe instead of quotes in dialog.  I can adjust my screen 
reader's
> punctuation settings, so it doesn't say every period, coma, quote 
or
> question mark.  It will pause, or give a questing inflection 
instead of
> naming the punctuation.  However, unless I turn it off completely, 
it does
> say apostrophe, when that symbol is used instead of a quote.  For 
example,
> here is written out, the way my screen reader might say a line of 
dialog
> that uses apostrophes, instead of quotes.  This is what I will 
hear.
> 
> apostrophe, Hi.   how are you? apostrophe she said, apostrophe how 
was your
> summer? apostrophe
> 
> I usually won't even read a story that does that because the 
constant
> apostrophe drives me right out of my mind.  I don't know if this 
is part of
> the posting guidelines, or if there is a legitimate reason for the 
use of an
> apostrophe instead of a quotation mark.

I'm intrigued.  What is the difference between an apostrophe and a 
quote (mark)?

I call this ' an "apostrophe" or a "single quote", depending on 
context, and this " a "double quote" (leaving aside feet and inches, 
and minutes and seconds of arc).

In written dialogue, I believe it is customary to alternate single 
and double quotes where there is nested speech, for example, when a 
person is telling a story within a story.

Personally, I would be quite happy to see the end of the apostrophe, 
as it performs no useful function in writing.  We know that must be 
so, because we can understand speech, and nobody ever pronounced an 
apostrophe.

David, who wonders if it is Unforgivable to spell the plural of beta 
as beta's rather than betas