Similarities of the Time Travel concept with another movie

[heiditandy]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "griffin782002" wrote:

> I feel I must explain some points. First, of course I know about 
> the "Back to the future" movies; I have seen them many times. But 
> in "Back to the future" there were no signs of a person travelling 
> in the past. In "Twelve Monkeys", the character does have the 
memory 
> of the event. Harry saw himself saving himself at the lake, he 
> should have died. In "Back to the future", Marty's dad doesn't 
seem 
> to remember anyone helping him to meet his mother, in fact he 
nearly 
> erased himself. 

I think we may be running into a language issue here. When you say 
that in BTTF, there were no signs of a person traveling in the past, 
you mean that when things "happened" for the "first time" they were 
one way, and Marty's traveling changed them so they happened a 
different way, correct? So you're saying that this is a different 
*style* of telling a time-travel story than PoA is, and that the 
style of the time-travel story in PoA is more similar to 12 Monkeys 
than it is to BTTF? 

The "12 Monkeys" style did happen in a 1990 episode of Quantum Leap 
(I just checked the date of the episode on a QL website) and both 
Star Trek The Voyage Home and First Contact make it clear that 
both "times around", there were time travelers who impacted things 
in the "past." 

The "12 Monkeys"-style  loop also shows up in Julian May's Moebius-
strip serieses, the Pliocene Exile and the Galactic Milieu, and she 
started publishing those in the 70s. Douglas Adams, also, gets into 
the issue with The Restaurant at the End of the Universe ("Yeah. 
Listen. I'm Zaphod Beeblebrox, my father was Zaphod Beeblebrox the 
Second, my grandfather Zaphod Beeblebrox the Third...There was an 
accident with a contraceptive and a time machine.") and Life, The 
Universe and Everything ("The Campaign for Real Timers claim that 
just as easy travel eroded the differences between one country and 
another, and between one world and another, so time travel is now 
eroding the differences between one age and another." Also see the 
time travel loop in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. 

You might want to look over this website - 
http://users.metro2000.net/~stabbott/timetravel.htm - it takes a 
look at different examples of time-travel in narrative fiction. It's 
a fascinating set of links - and I particularly enjoy this essay: 
http://www.towson.edu/~flynn/timetv.html



heidi