Pet Theories (Re: No responses on the main list )
Erin
erinellii at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 23 14:34:17 UTC 2004
Phil wrote:
... it felt as if many posters each had their own pet mcguffin which
they were determined to interject into the discussion regardless of
whether there was any support for it in canon. <snip> I think the
main "miscreants" are those who have chosen their favourite
character, or at any rate their *interpretation* of that character,
and are prepared to defend their opinion to the death.
Now Erin says:
I don't know, Phil. I've been with HPfGU a year(I don't post much),
and I think that people willing to defend their theories is one of
the things that makes the list great. A lot of times this is the
only way a new theory gets any attention; if someone is willing to
stay with it and plug it at every opportunity until it gets some
discussion.
I agree, though, that people should definitely be citing canon in
their arguments, or at least include a link to an earlier post if
their theory has one defining post where they've laid out all the
canon. I point to Pippin on the main list as someone who always does
the thing correctly, no matter how many times she's done it before.
Done properly, people defending theories is the cornerstone of this
list. Without it, all we'd have would be a bunch of newbies sitting
around going "Say, did you notice that gleam in Dumbledore's eye?
What d'you suppose *that* means?"
Now Phil gives some examples:
> Some people are desperate for a time-travel story, so they will try
to work that into the HP series, disregarding all the warnings about
it stated within canon. Suggesting that Dumbledore *must* be Ron
Weasley sent back in time, despite all the back-story about DD in
canon, and the absurdity of such a prominent figure springing up out
of nowhere, is a prime example.
Erin:
You must have been reading the wrong posts on this theory. I don't
believe it myself, but I could come up with a buttload of supporting
canon evidence in a heartbeat. And I'm not sure what you mean
by "warnings about it stated in canon" Perhaps you're talking about
Hermione's "plenty of wizards have killed their past or future selves
by mistake"? Easily gotten around, as Ron going back 135 years or so
wouldn't be likely to meet his past self, would he? Or
Dumbledore's "You know the law, Miss Granger, you know what is at
stake"? Well, the law doesn't seem to be "thou shalt not muck
around," but rather "thou must not be seen to be mucking around".
The trio has broken the law before (time turner, helping Sirius Black
escape) and there's nothing to say they wouldn't do it again if the
need was great.
All the backstory about DD? You mean his awards and such? Easily
countered. The only important thing is that the earliest bit of DD
backstory is him passing his N.E.W.T.s. As Ron hasn't yet reached
N.E.W.T. age yet, he could easily nip back in time, claim to be a
transfer student from another school, take his N.E.W.T.s, and live
out the rest of his life as Dumbledore.
No, the Dumbledore=Ron theory is not your best bet for an example of
this kind, I'm afraid. Vampire!Snape is more what you're looking
for :-) Or HalfDementor!Snape. Or the alchemy people, some of whom
are truly scary.
Another example from Phil:
there's no reason to jump up and down insisting that Lupin and
Sirius *must* be lovers, for example. Maybe JKR will incorporate a
character who is openly gay, maybe she won't. I don't happen to think
it will make the books bad literature if she never does.
Erin:
You seem to be picking out not the theories that have no backup
canon, but the ones that irritate you personally. Dude, just skip
over them.
No, there's no reason to jump up and down (other than Lupin moving in
with Sirius, the two of them giving Harry a joint gift, etc., etc.)
but then there's no particular reason to espouse *any* Harry Potter
theory, except that we like the books. If it makes people happy and
they have canon to back it up, leave 'em alone.
Phil again:
> As for what I think about people who haven't learnt what "snippage"
is and just quote entire posts because they're too lazy to edit, I'm
> afraid as a long-ago Usenet freak, my opinion is well-nigh
> unprintable.
Erin:
On this we are in total agreement.
--Erin
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