[HPFGU-OTChatter] POA, gripe towards the so-called fans!
wayne gregory
waynegregory23 at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Jun 8 02:51:56 UTC 2004
thanks for your reply. and i agree. many things were left out which i would have liked to have seen. And obviously you have taken a dislike to me.But I do agree with you, the story does fall short, it should have been a longer film. that way everyone would have been happy. I think that the great hall was a dissapointment, i don't understand why the eneding wasn't exactly like the book, i would have liked to have seen the firebolt incident, i dont understand why the werewolf looked so different and Snape asked them to write an essay on the them, why didnt they use the knot on the whomping willow to stop him moving?
I have some of the Gray questions too.
However, we only assumed it looked dirty because Chris Columbus, had directed the first two, If Alfonso had, it would be a different discussion.
I also disagree with the comments on Dumbledore, Micheal Gambon's portrayal is (in my opinion) admirable. How difficult could it be for him to take Richard Harris' helm? I think they both cover the role well, Harris for hi calm manner and authority and Gamon for his bizarre nature. Not only that, but I feel he didn't have enough time to portray his version of the character.
I appreciate the fact that everyone has an opinion, and the comments I recieved were good ones, but this film is not the only movie with mistakes and I know everyone else knows this. All i am suggesting is that we give Alfonso a break. It is difficult to take over projects. I fell they should let fans take the direction, Lord of the rings and X men have prooved that fans can make brilliant films.
Amanda Geist <editor at texas.net> wrote:
Waynegregory:
> I am just saying that I am annoyed many people have not given this
> film a chance.
Yeah, I got that part.
> Just to dismiss this film because "I found the pace too fast." would
> be a great injustice to the crews efforts.
(1) Criticism is not dismissal. Rather a lot of this film is quite good. But
like the world of Harry Potter, reactions come in shades of gray, and I
don't believe my only choices are "love it" or "hate it."
(2) Quite a few things that took a great deal of effort still fall short. I
can recognize and applaud the attempt without granting that it succeeded.
> As for ignoring me I hope they don't! I hope they argue why the film
> was bad because most of the reasons I have heard at the moment are
> absured, eg Dumbledore having a manicure!
Go back, then, and reread some. I have seen (and happen to agree with) the
comment that the wizarding world was too "dirty"; Cuaron seems to have edged
toward a wizarding world which has much of the caricature in it, where Tom
the innkeeper has become a cackling cartoon, where the reputable inn The
Leaky Cauldron has become a shamble, where the splendid castle of Hogwarts
has the flavor of ruin, where the dignified headmaster has become a rumpled
old man. I understood the comment about the nails to be an example, in line
with this perception.
There have been many comments, both nitpicking and otherwise. My own
five-year-old wanted to know why the Willow didn't hit them when they came
out. I doubt that makes him less of a fan or too critical; it simply means
that for that one boy's perception, something wasn't right.
> Once again I apologise to Amanda Geist if she was offended by my >
comments. But in the end J.K.Rowling has said herself "it's my
> favourite Harry Potter film so far". Surely if she has given it the
> thumbs up, then she doesnt mind that parts are missing!
And she is entitled to her opinion too. But I am under no obligation to
share it.
> I apologise for questioning anyone's loyalty as a fan. I am one
> myself and i just get angry when people see it as a failure because
> it deviates from the txt.
See above. There are more choices than "failure" and "spectacular success."
My problems were not that it deviates from the book; I expected this. My
difficulty is within the film itself. I can't say I'm happy about so much
backstory being omitted, but there are plenty of things I wasn't happy with
without even opening the book.
Get angry all you like; but wait fifteen minutes and reread your posts
before you get angry online. Especially reasonlessly, for people using this
venue as it was intended, to express valid opinions. It'd probably help with
the spelling, too.
~Amanda
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