Oops on my last

Tue Jun 29 22:55:47 UTC 2004

I meant Petunia feeling rejected not Lily.  I need to reread before I send out.

kemper mentor <kempermentor at yahoo.com> wrote:Your thoughts on Mark Evans got me thinking on blood ties with Lily and Petunia.  This got me thinking to something Petunia said, and I'm probably paraphasing, "Our parents were so proud to have a witch in the family."  

It seems to be assumed that the Evans weren't witch and wizard.  But that doesn't mean they were muggles.  What if they were squibs?  
That would explain: Petunia's apparent familiarity with the wizarding world by knowing that dementors run (ran) Azkaban, what horrible creatures they are, and by fearing Voldemort's return. 
Taking this theory further... Lily felt rejected by the wizarding world and thus she, at some point, rejected them by going into the muggle world.  A world that, she would perceive, would accept her for not having magical abilities.  
I forget who, but some character explained Mr. Filch's vileness to the students was due to them being witches and wizards.  He's abusive to young witches and wizards.  Petunia is abusive as well, though more emotionally and neglectfully, but we see a trace of possible physical abuse in CoS when she nearly hits Harry in the head with a frying pan.

So... going back to Mark Evans.  Squibs aren't thought of enough by the Ministry of Magic to register where they live as we've seen with Mrs. Figg. (On an aside: Who and Where is Mr. Figg.  Could Mrs. Figg's maiden name be Evans)  Maybe there are other Evans' who are squibs who also felt rejected by the wizarding world and who embrace the muggle life.  Maybe Mark is like his nth cousin, n-times removed, Lily.   

Kathryn Wolber <katydid3500 at yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm the one who suggested Hagrid, but I didn't really
like the idea of him being prince of the Giants,
especially since there isn't exactly a long standing
"King" of the Giants.  As for your point that we don't
find out about what is described in the second part of
the title before the book happens...there is one
instance. In SS Hagrid mentions Sirius Black's
motorbike. So even though we did not know that he was
the Prisoner of Azkaban, we had heard of him before. 
So it would be a change for it to be someone we're
familiar with (such as Hagrid) but not outside the
realm of possibility to be someone mentioned in
passing, such as Mark Evans. 

And can someone please explain where the idea of it
being Ginny came from?? Because unless someone's
implying that Mrs. Weasley had an affair with a muggle
but Ginny still mysteriously looks exactly like the
rest of the Weasley gang.....I'm really confused....

~Kathryn

--- kemper mentor <kempermentor at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't think it Mark Evans, Seamus, Ginny, nor
> Hagrid, though I liked the reasoning for him.  To
> the person who thought Hagrid... are you thinking
> prince of Giants?  I don't think so, but...
> 
> I don't think it's anyone we've had the fortune of
> meeting in the other books.  
> We learn first of the Chamber of Secrets in Harry
> Potter and the Chamber of Secrets.
> We learn first of the Prisoner of Azkaban in Harry
> Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.
> We learn first of the Goblet of Fire in Harry Potter
> and the Goblet of Fire.
> We learn first of the Order of the Phoenix in Harry
> Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.
>  
> What if the title refers to a vampire?  Or, rather,
> a half vampire?

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