From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat May  1 05:38:59 2004
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 01:38:59 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 1485
Message-ID: <1e2.1f3e1f85.2dc491f3@aol.com>

boy_mn writes:
I am well aware that I am dancing dangerously close to the edge of
what is allowable here, so if this post were to magically disappear
under the wave of a moderators wand, it would be understandable.

I say: 
Yes, it can be finicky for them so I understand. It is perfectly legal for 
you to make copies of things you own for your personal use. Hence, it is legal 
for me to make a photocopy of a needlework pattern that I own. I can even 
enlarge it so that I can actually tell what color or how many stitches are in a 
particular row. I can convert my old 78 rpm records to CDs for my personal use. I 
can also duplicate a CD that I own and let my kids use the CD while the 
original is stored safely away from jelly, bunny teeth, and other hazards of 
household life.  

What I cannot legally do, is make a photocopy of the pattern or CD or tape 
and give it to my friend. 

Moving text from one media to another is time consuming but occasionally 
worthwhile. There are three ways to do it. The first is to type it in. The second 
is to scan it in and let the scanner software convert it into a text file. The 
third is to read (or play) the material into your computer and let it type it 
in.  

Which choice you use is up to you. Are you a fast typist? Do you have a good 
scanner and lots of hard drive space? Do you already have a speech-to-text 
program that is reliable? 

Once you have the method chosen, the format is your next concern. Breaking up 
long material is always a good idea as it speeds up loading and unloading. 
Chapter size files is a good start. More than one chapter to a file also works 
but I dislike overly large files of any kind.

Finally, as to format (MS Word, PDF, Palm Reader, etc), the choice is again 
up to you. Where do you plan on reading/using it? If I'm going to be reading 
something on my Palm Pilot, I prefer the Palm or other Reader. This is simply to 
save battery life. With a reader program, I can invert the material to have 
white text on a black background, use bookmarks, an annotations, all without 
draining a battery.

Good luck in your research! 

---Mary
"Friendship is born at the moment when one person says to another, 'What?! 
You too! Thought I was the only one.'"  (Clive Staples Lewis) 



From catlady at wicca.net  Sat May  1 23:09:25 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 23:09:25 -0000
Subject: Ultimate Sorting Hat quiz
In-Reply-To: <006801c42e08$d06591f0$6601a8c0@mac>
Message-ID: <c71an5+e019@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Bumbledor" <bumbledor at c...>
wrote:

> http://personalitytests.netfirms.com/tests/ccq_hogwarts.htm

It has out-used its bandwidth allotment (the curse of having one's URL
published), so I cannot check whether it is better than MY favorite
Sorting Hat, from 7 Dragons. Access the one I like starting at

http://icehouse.7dragons.net/#

scroll down All The Way and click on "Click here to get sorted"

****

I once collected several URLs for Sorting Hats, and here are the ones
that are not Not Found:
http://onewaystreet.nu/hp/hat/
http://timidity.org/tests/sortinghat.html 
http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/worldofmagic/sortinghat.html

I wish I could find Melanie from Ravenclaw's Sorting Hat; it was the
funniest.




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun May  2 15:02:13 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 2 May 2004 15:02:13 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1083510133.19.92908.m22@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, May 2, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi everyone! 

Don't forget, chat happens today, 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 7
pm UK time. Chat times do not change for Daylight Saving/Summer
Time.  Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.

Go into any Yahoo chat room and type:  /join HP:1 

Hope to see you there! 

 





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May  2 19:53:31 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:53:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, DazzedWarlock!
Message-ID: <20040502195331.13572.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>

*hangs the last of the lights and streamers, and
saunters off in search of snacks and cake*

Today's birthday honouree is Dazzed Warlock. Birthday
owls can be sent care of this list or directly to:
dazzednow at hotmail.com

I hope your day is filled with fun and magic.

Happy Birthday, Dazzed Warlock!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon May  3 13:37:03 2004
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:37:03 -0000
Subject: Alan Rickman "Something the Lord Made."
Message-ID: <c75htv+pm7j@eGroups.com>

For the Alan Rickman fans, there is a trailer of his new HBO movie 
at this site:
http://www.hbo.com/films/stlm/#

There is also a printed interview about making the movie and his 
approach to characters.

Potioncat





From ladygator_29609 at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 01:49:04 2004
From: ladygator_29609 at yahoo.com (Pamela Jordan Paras)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 18:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: New member
In-Reply-To: <c75htv+pm7j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040504014904.94247.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>


Hi!  My name is Pam and I just joined the list a few days ago.

I'm a 27-year-old Potter-ite and glad to have finally found a forum that is made up of fans over the age of 13.

By the way, for those interested, there is a message board linked the "The Passion of the Christ" that is discussing Harry Potter right now.  (The majority think that HP is demonic, but it's interesting to read.  Some folks are lunatics, LOL!)

Link: http://www.mylifeafter.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1892

 



     



		
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From spin01 at aol.com  Tue May  4 03:16:35 2004
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 03:16:35 -0000
Subject: any info on book 6 yet?
Message-ID: <c771uj+iipt@eGroups.com>

Good evening all.  Has anyone heard anything definite yet about book 
6 and when it might be released?  I am looking forward to it more 
than my kids are lol.  My youngest son sold enough popcorn to qualify 
for the sneak preview of the new movie but I am waiting for the new 
book.  so any info would be appreciated if there is any yet.  
sherry





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 03:47:14 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 23:47:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Phyllis!
Message-ID: <20040504034714.46447.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

*hangs the last streamer, drags out the heavily laden
food trolleys and surveys the room with satisfaction*

Yes, I *know* I'm sneaking in just under the wire
here. I'm sure Phyllis will understand, as she knows
the workload we List Elves have, being one herself. :)

Today's birthday honouree is Phyllis. Birthday owls
can be sent care of this list or directly to:
erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com

I hope your day was filled with fun, magic and the
company of good friends and family.

Happy Birthday, Phyllis!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 03:54:21 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 03:54:21 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Phyllis!
In-Reply-To: <20040504034714.46447.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7745d+vffk@eGroups.com>

Oooo, it's not midnight here yet--

a great time for a party!

Happy birthday, Phyllis, hope it's Harry Pottery (but, you know, with
more friendly people around)!

Annemehr





From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Tue May  4 16:04:19 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 16:04:19 -0000
Subject: Alan Rickman "Something the Lord Made."
In-Reply-To: <c75htv+pm7j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c78eu3+a4eg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" 
<willsonkmom at m...> wrote:
> For the Alan Rickman fans, there is a trailer of his new HBO movie 
> at this site:
> http://www.hbo.com/films/stlm/#
> 
> There is also a printed interview about making the movie and his 
> approach to characters.


Was Rickman doing a US southern accent in this clip? He seemed to be 
shifting from southern & his Snape voice, lol. Thanks for the link, 
potioncat.

Jen




From jacobmatta99 at hotmail.com  Sun May  2 01:34:19 2004
From: jacobmatta99 at hotmail.com (Jacob Matta)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:34:19 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pronouncing Accio
Message-ID: <BAY99-F61FOAmEaJswF00000f0e@hotmail.com>

Sea Change <nakedkali at y...> wrote:
>> This word looks like a musical marking to me, so I pronounce it as
>> if it were chicken cacciatore, that is, Italianishly: ATCH ee yo.

bboy_mn:
> My initial instinct was to pronounce it 'ASS-EE-OH', but after looking
in the English dictionary, I find that nearly all words that start
with 'ACC...' are pronounced with a 'K' sound as in 'accelerate',
'accident', and 'access'.

Since I discovered that I have been trying to force myself to use the
more likely 'ACK-SEE-OH'.

The one main exception is with words that begin with 'accO...'. words
that have an 'O' after the second 'C' rarely have the second 'C'
pronounced which means the loss of any 'S' type sound.

However, when we factor in the origin being Latin, perhaps the Italian
version may be close to correct. But that raises the question as to
whether wizard retain formal Latin pronounciation, or have evolved to
the modern English variation? >>>


The recorded books (Jim Dale) says AHH-SEE-OHH! I listened to all 5 multiple 
times.

Jacob




From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 15:17:12 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:17:12 -0000
Subject: any info on book 6 yet?
In-Reply-To: <c771uj+iipt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7b0ho+qh8n@eGroups.com>


  Hello Sherry.

  I've seen nothing but rumors with nothing definite as of yet.  I do 
keep hearing that it may be another year or two before it's release 
(and at my age, I just want to live long enough to read the last 
book!).

  Brian:-)

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" 
<spin01 at a...> wrote:
> Good evening all.  Has anyone heard anything definite yet about 
book 
> 6 and when it might be released?  I am looking forward to it more 
> than my kids are lol.  My youngest son sold enough popcorn to 
qualify 
> for the sneak preview of the new movie but I am waiting for the new 
> book.  so any info would be appreciated if there is any yet.  
> sherry




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed May  5 14:50:32 2004
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 14:50:32 -0000
Subject: Alan Rickman "Something the Lord Made."
In-Reply-To: <c78eu3+a4eg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7auvo+3qka@eGroups.com>

snip
> 
> Jen wrote:
> Was Rickman doing a US southern accent in this clip? He seemed to 
be 
> shifting from southern & his Snape voice, lol. Thanks for the 
link, 
> potioncat.
> 


Potioncat:
I'd better go read instructions for this site, as for now, I'll 
follow the main HPfGU rules on snipping.

Yes, Rickman is doing a fairly good U.S. Southern accent.  IIRC, the 
character he's playing is from Georgia (the state) and to my ears, 
the accent sounds a little too country for a Doctor, but I'll have 
to wait until I can see the movie.  Unfortunately, we do not get HBO 
and I'll have to wait for the video.

Did you read the  interview?  I wonder if he feels protective of 
Snape?
Potioncat





From katydid3500 at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 23:58:53 2004
From: katydid3500 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Wolber)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 16:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OT Chatter] Book 6 Rumor!!!
Message-ID: <20040505235853.55381.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com>

I really hope that this rumor is true!!! It's already
on Leaky Cauldron so some of you might have seen this
already but I thought I'd pass it along just in case!!

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Books&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=270442&obj_id=41463

or

http://tinyurl.com/2uq3o

~Katie


	
		
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From cailleach822 at msn.com  Thu May  6 00:41:37 2004
From: cailleach822 at msn.com (cailleach822)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 00:41:37 -0000
Subject: POA Line Party
Message-ID: <c7c1k1+c6pr@eGroups.com>

Hello,
I've been on this list for awhile, but have never posted. I live in 
NJ and will be hosting a line party for the release of POA on June 
4th. Anyone living in the Burlington, Camden, Mercer county areas 
interested in attending and or co-hosting please contact me directly.
Thanks
Kelly
cailleach822 at msn.com
returning to lurkdom, anxiously awaiting replies.





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 02:59:37 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 22:59:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Alex!
Message-ID: <20040506025937.15202.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>

*sneaks in quietly with streamers, balloons and a very
large cake*

Shhh....

It's late here, so that means Alex has likely gone to
bed and missed his own party. 'Tis my fault for
posting this so late in that day. Sorry, Alex.

Today's birthday honouree is Alex. Birthday owls can
be sent care of this list or directly to:
dracos_boyfriend at yahoo.co.uk

I hope your day was magical and brought everything you
wished for.

Happy Birthday, Alex!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Thu May  6 06:49:37 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 06:49:37 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OT Chatter] Book 6 Rumor!!!
In-Reply-To: <20040505235853.55381.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7cn61+rmg2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Wolber 
<katydid3500 at y...> wrote:
> I really hope that this rumor is true!!! It's already
> on Leaky Cauldron so some of you might have seen this
> already but I thought I'd pass it along just in case!!

Sorry, for beign a spoilsport, but honestly, what are the chances 
that there is any truth to this rumour? When #5 was released, 
Scholastic and Bloomsbury released an official statement six months 
prior to the release, and we're past that point....unless...I guess 
the actual printing would take a while. Hm. All the same, it's only 
been a year since the release of #5, and if #6 has anything close to 
the heft and scope of it's predecessor, I can't see that it would be 
ready so soon. I agree with you that it would be nice if it were 
true, but...

As for the midsummersday release of #5, was that REALLY about hitting 
the astronomically significant date? I rather figured it had 
something to do with Bloomsbury wanting to give a boost to two fiscal 
years :-). The fiscal year for them ended June 23rd, you see, so by 
releasing the book two days before, it makes them look even better to 
the stockholders!

Sophia

Sophia




From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Thu May  6 11:03:35 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 6:03:35 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] POA Line Party
Message-ID: <20040506110335.ICIP10678.out004.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>

{Kelly}

Hello,
I've been on this list for awhile, but have never posted. I live in 
NJ and will be hosting a line party for the release of POA on June 
4th. Anyone living in the Burlington, Camden, Mercer county areas 
interested in attending and or co-hosting please contact me directly.

{Silverthorne}

Oh, that makes me wish I still lived in my childhood town of Hightstown (you know, NJ Turnpike exit 8A?). Been so long though, I don't think I even spelled the name right! :P

Have fun!



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From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Thu May  6 11:44:31 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:44:31 +0100
Subject: Sponsored links and adult diapers
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E159F55DA@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Have you noticed that Yahoo have started putting google style sponsored
links at the bottom of group homes? So, for example, at the moment
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/ is decorated with adult
acne treatment links ("Potter's Underage Sorcery Sentence" anyone?). But
even better is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups-Archives/
which came up with links to cheap adult diapers. Now, I know that
trawling through old HPfGU posts is exciting, but surely we can cope
with the excitement without having little accidents!

The sponsored links seem to change frequently. Have fun.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.



From foxmoth at qnet.com  Thu May  6 15:37:44 2004
From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 15:37:44 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
Message-ID: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>

A little compendium of knowledge...additions welcomed!


Never tickle a sleeping dragon
It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live
The dead whom we love never truly leave us
It is our choices, not our abilities, that show what we are
The time will come when you'll be glad you did a noble thing
Books can be misleading
The best of us must sometimes eat our words
Don't wait till the last minute to ask someone to the ball
Friendship and bravery mean more than books and cleverness
Don't insult the hippogriff
It's difficult to predict the future
To the well-organized mind, death is nothing but the next great 
adventure
The truth is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should be treated 
with great caution
Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself
If the magic doesn't work, throw your wand away  and and punch 
him in the nose

Pippin




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Thu May  6 16:05:24 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 16:05:24 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7dno4+vrig@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> A little compendium of knowledge...additions welcomed!
> 
<snipped list of wise and funny sayings>

Jen:  You already listed some of my favorites Pippin, but here's a 
few more:

Toilet seats make unhygenic gifts.

If you're lucky once, there's always a chance to be lucky again.

Love leaves a mark that protects us forever.

A steaming mug of hot chocolate can always cheer you up.

Eating in general is comforting, especially lavish feasts.

Sometimes rules *are* made to be broken.

Have a little fun while saving the world.





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu May  6 17:39:01 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 17:39:01 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7dt7l+do99@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> A little compendium of knowledge...additions welcomed!

Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see 
where it keeps its brain

David




From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Thu May  6 19:50:06 2004
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:50:06 +0400
Subject: An excellent mystery
Message-ID: <001901c433a3$573fc7a0$7a41983e@rcomputer>


Perhaps it is not the place for this, but I want to share my admiration of
an excellent fantasy-mystery series, the Liam Rhenford novels by Daniel
Hood, about Quaestor Liam Rhenford and his familiar, dog-size dragon
Fanuilh. The series begins with poor young scholar Liam Rhenford, a bit of a
rolling stone, coming to the rich seaside merchant town of Southwark after a
time of absense and going to visit his old friend, powerful wizard Tarquin
Tanaquil, only to find Tarquin with a dagger in his heart. Tarquin's
familiar, little dragon Fanuilh, was magically bound to Tarquin and would
die if he couldn't find himself a new master, so Fanuilh bound himself to
Liam as his familiar. He then asked Liam to find Tarquin's murderer, and
Liam began to investigate. Coeccias, the Aedile (Sheriff) of Southwark, a
honest, straighforward man, helped Liam very much, but at some point Liam
himself became the main suspect in Coeccias's eyes, for it turned out that
Tarquin made a will and left all his property, his nice house near the town
including, to Liam. Liam managed to persuade Coeccias that he knew nothing
of the will, and, with Fanuilh's help, he found Tarquin's murderess.
Somewhere in the course of the investigation Liam found he is being called
Quaestor (investigator in Latin, sometning like a Deputy Sheriff). So, when
all this was over, Liam settled down as a house-owner and the Quaestor of
Southwark, but, to his annoyance, all the town of Southwark now considered
him a wizard, with Tarquin's magic house and Fanuilh and all. Liam knew so
little of magic that he couldn't, as a honest man, to call himself a wizard,
but all the town was impossible to dissuade, of course, everyone who saw him
with Fanuilh thought him a powerful wizard, and Liam sometimes used that to
influence an uncooperative suspect. Though Liam wasn't a wizard, he was a
very intelligent and brave, even daredevil, young man, and he had Fanuilh to
help and defend him - Fanuilh was brave, loyal and intelligent, could do
simple but effective spells, such as to light a fire or to make someone fall
asleep, and of course he had claws, fangs and wings as well. They became
greatly attached to each other and solved many mysteries together.
Maria




From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Thu May  6 20:35:47 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:35:47 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7e7j3+qiau@eGroups.com>

Pippin:
> A little compendium of knowledge...additions welcomed!
> 
<snip the list of Hogwarts truisms>


Pippin listed all of the real pearls, so Tcy offers:

If your magical eye gets sticky, just rinse it off in a glass of 
water.

Check your potion ingredients very carefully (Polyjuice!Hermione)

Ferrets bounce well, students do not




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Thu May  6 21:32:45 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 21:32:45 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7eatt+mt68@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> A little compendium of knowledge...additions welcomed!
> 
> 
> Never tickle a sleeping dragon
> It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live
> The dead whom we love never truly leave us
> It is our choices, not our abilities, that show what we are
> The time will come when you'll be glad you did a noble thing
> Books can be misleading
> The best of us must sometimes eat our words
> Don't wait till the last minute to ask someone to the ball
> Friendship and bravery mean more than books and cleverness
> Don't insult the hippogriff
> It's difficult to predict the future
> To the well-organized mind, death is nothing but the next great 
> adventure
> The truth is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should be treated 
> with great caution
> Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself
> If the magic doesn't work, throw your wand away  and and punch 
> him in the nose
> 
> Pippin

another offering: 

Fears are best fought with humour. (boggarts)

Battle depression by finding your happy thought. (dementors)

If it's in print, be VERY sceptical. (Rita Skeeter)

Question authority. Think for yourself.

Conformity keeps the wicked in power, non-conformity unseats them. 
(Dolores)

Even the most annoying of friends can prove to be of vital importance.
Dobby)

No matter how scary, you've got to take risks! 

Procrastination is a flawed strategy. (Cho, the second task)

Never stick your wand in your back pocket--you might lose a buttock.

Sophia




From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 03:21:09 2004
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 03:21:09 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7eatt+mt68@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7evb5+o05k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
wrote:
[snip]
> Battle depression by finding your happy thought. (dementors)

Beth: How about an addition: followed by large doses of chocolate.

Also:
When on a date, it is not recommended that you tell your date you 
have to meet someone else.

Passive resistance is sometimes the strongest course of action. [the 
professors vs. Umbridge]






From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 04:19:27 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 04:19:27 -0000
Subject: POA line parties across Southern California
Message-ID: <c7f2of+faoi@eGroups.com>

Someone on another list mentioned line parties so I think I too would
like to know is there a general place one can find information on line
parties in Southern California or anywhere in the states?

Curiously yours,
Kai
*whom resides in So.Calif and heat or not will be in full costume*




From cailleach822 at msn.com  Fri May  7 14:01:57 2004
From: cailleach822 at msn.com (cailleach822)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:01:57 -0000
Subject: POA line parties across Southern California
In-Reply-To: <c7f2of+faoi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7g4sl+591u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kaisenji" <kaisenji at y...> 
wrote:
> Someone on another list mentioned line parties so I think I too 
would
> like to know is there a general place one can find information on 
line
> parties in Southern California or anywhere in the states?
> 
> Curiously yours,
> Kai
> *whom resides in So.Calif and heat or not will be in full costume*


Hello Kai,
Go to wh_lineparties at yahoo.com they have the list your looking for.
Have fun.
Kelly




From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sat May  8 00:12:43 2004
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 00:12:43 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dt7l+do99@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7h8lr+8pmb@eGroups.com>

David wrote:

> Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see 
> where it keeps its brain

In other words, throw away your Palm.

Amy, clutching hers for dear life




From dzny72 at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 19:16:40 2004
From: dzny72 at yahoo.com (dzny72)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 19:16:40 -0000
Subject: ADDITIONAL BOOKS?
Message-ID: <c7gnao+ju7s@eGroups.com>

Has anyone else heard (or can confirm in any way)that JKR plans on 
writing additional books continuing Harry's story beyond the original 
7?  Or that she may write additional books as a "prequel" telling the 
story of James & Lily?





From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sat May  8 01:08:34 2004
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 01:08:34 -0000
Subject: Everything I Know I Learned At Hogwarts...
In-Reply-To: <c7dm48+j4q3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7hbui+fo1e@eGroups.com>

Pippin compiled wisdom, from 

> Never tickle a sleeping dragon

to 

> If the magic doesn't work, throw your wand away  and and punch 
> him in the nose

(ROTFL at that last, by the way)

I'd add:

If you can't tolerate acne, you risk losing your nose.

When life seems utterly dreary, there may be magic just about to 
knock on the door.

Amy Z




From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sat May  8 01:19:30 2004
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 01:19:30 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OT Chatter] Book 6 Rumor!!!
In-Reply-To: <c7cn61+rmg2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7hcj2+kj9s@eGroups.com>

Sophia wrote:
 
> Sorry, for beign a spoilsport, but honestly, what are the chances 
> that there is any truth to this rumour? 

I'm afraid I agree.  It doesn't have anything firmer to go on than 
the many "my boyfriend's cousin works at the paper plant that 
supplies Scholastic and she said . . . "  rumors we heard before OP, 
and it's very unlikely for three reasons:  (1) short notice from 
Scholastic/Bloomsbury, (2) she probably wouldn't write the book this 
fast; (3) they expect to start printing September 8 for a September 
22 release date?!

Amy Z




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 00:27:39 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 00:27:39 -0000
Subject: Convention Alley goes to the ballgame!
Message-ID: <c7jttr+3iof@eGroups.com>

Last year the Ottawa Lynx Triple A baseball team held a Harry Potter 
day before the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. 
Given the success of that event, they will be holding another Harry 
Potter day on May 30, 2004, just before the release of the Prisoner 
of Azkaban movie.

Here's where you come in. They've asked Convention Alley to help them 
find some people to take part in this event. HP fans, ideally fans 
willing to dress up and help them have fun. There will be games and 
prizes, though those will most likely be geared toward the children 
in the stands.

If you're interested in joining some of the Convention Alley 
volunteers at the Lynx Stadium in Ottawa for the afternoon, we'll 
happily welcome you on board. Those interested in donning robes or 
hats, waving wands or just coming to enjoy the ballgame are all 
welcome to participate. Your children and friends included!

Unfortunately, we haven't been able to conjure up free tickets. 
Should enough people be interested (20 or more), we will receive 
discounted tickets. Regular ticket prices range from $7.00 - $11.00. 
Discounted tickets range from $5.50 - $8.50.

Interested parties should contact Amanda at bluerain22 at yahoo.com . 
Tickets will be purchased 2 weeks prior to the event, so sign up now!

Sheryll Townsend
Convention Alley Planning Committee 




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 00:33:42 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:33:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Suzanne! (belated)
Message-ID: <20040509003342.87817.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com>

*scurries in, flinging confetti and dragging streamers
and balloons*

Yes, yes, I know how late I am! Sincere apologies to
Suzanne for the tardiness of the party.

Thursday's birthday honouree was Suzanne (Rainy
Lilac). Belated birthday owls can be sent care of this
list or directly to: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com

I hope your day was magical and filled with HP
goodness.

Happy Birthday, Suzanne!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

=====
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From skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat May  8 00:25:03 2004
From: skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk (Megan)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 00:25:03 -0000
Subject: book seis release date?
Message-ID: <c7h9cv+l2ba@eGroups.com>

Greetings all... this is my first post (Ive been reading for a while 
and finally Ive gotten up enough courage to post!) so please be 
gentle with my comments, please.

I think maybe the confusion about the Septembre date is that in 
American English, the paper back of OoP is coming out in early  
August (I heard)... Im not sure if that is correct, or not. What I 
am wondering is, why is the Spanish paper back of OoP out but 
yet the British and American English-language ones arent?(My dad 
gave me the paper and hard copies of all three versions of all 
books!)
 
 And all these "flints" and "curiousioties" (spelling?) are they in  
the diffrent language books, or were they cleaned up as translated? 
 Because I cannot find some of them in my spanish books, but in the 
British English one, I can. 
 
Also can someone *please* send me links/articles about the ron=dd  
and harry=dd etc. theories? I hadnt heard or thought of that until i 
saw some of that here, and now i am most curious!

Thank you.






From jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat May  8 11:09:11 2004
From: jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk (jojobinks1983)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 11:09:11 -0000
Subject: Beyond the Potterverse
Message-ID: <c7if4n+3b76@eGroups.com>

Hi,with all the speculation and disappointment over a release date 
for book 6 I was wondering what people are reading beyond the 
Potterverse? (Wait, you mean there are other books?!!). Any 
reccomendations?

Jo





From alexpie at aol.com  Sun May  9 03:26:42 2004
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 23:26:42 EDT
Subject: Manuscript turnaround
Message-ID: <8d.a5fe300.2dcefef2@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/8/04 2:38:46 AM Central Daylight Time, 
HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes:

> (1) short notice from 
> Scholastic/Bloomsbury, (2) she probably wouldn't write the book this 
> fast; (3) they expect to start printing September 8 for a September 
> 22 release date?!
> 

I'm not saying it's true, mind you, but it can be done.  I've worked in 
publishing all my life, and a friend (a production editor; they are the uncredited 
people who Get It Done)  just told me that he is being given a heavily 
foot-noted, long, historical manuscript (which must include an index as well) on May 
17 with expectation of its being a bound book on July 19.  I'm not saying the 
nex HP book /is/ being done on that sort of schedule (it would seem, based on 
rumors, to have an even longer, and quite adequate one, in fact), I have no 
knowledge whatsoever, I'm just saying that it /can/.
Ba


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From lupinesque at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 04:47:11 2004
From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 04:47:11 -0000
Subject: Manuscript turnaround
In-Reply-To: <8d.a5fe300.2dcefef2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7kd4f+d39a@eGroups.com>

I wrote:

>> (3) they expect to start printing September 8 for a September 
> > 22 release date?!
> > 

Alexpie wrote:

> I'm not saying it's true, mind you, but it can be done.  I've 
worked in 
> publishing all my life, and a friend (a production editor; they 
are the uncredited 
> people who Get It Done)  just told me that he is being given a 
heavily 
> foot-noted, long, historical manuscript (which must include an 
index as well) on May 
> 17 with expectation of its being a bound book on July 19.  I'm not 
saying the 
> nex HP book /is/ being done on that sort of schedule (it would 
seem, based on 
> rumors, to have an even longer, and quite adequate one, in fact), 
I have no 
> knowledge whatsoever, I'm just saying that it /can/.

That *is* an impressive turnaround.  With HP, though, there's the 
matter of sheer numbers of books.  The initial print run of OP was 
8.5 million.  I don't know how long it takes to print that many 
volumes and get them to the stores, but two weeks sounds beyond 
tight.

But mostly the rumor falls down not because it couldn't be true, but 
because there's no reason to think it is.  It cites no one at all 
who is actually in the know, such as the publishers, JKR's agent, 
distributors, or printers.

Amy Z




From mcdee1980 at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 07:50:18 2004
From: mcdee1980 at yahoo.com (mcdee1980)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 07:50:18 -0000
Subject: Book Date
Message-ID: <c7knrq+t5f5@eGroups.com>

There is a rumor flying around that book six is being sent to the 
publishers on sept 8 for a equinox publishing.  This seems a bit 
unlikely to me.  The publishers know that it would take longer than 
two weeks to put together enough copies to satifsfy the first run 
needs.  On the other hand the Sept. 8th date may be enough time to 
put together enough copies for a Halloween release date!
Lady McBeth





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun May  9 15:02:24 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 9 May 2004 15:02:24 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1084114944.19.73994.m6@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, May 9, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi everyone! 

Don't forget, chat happens today, 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 7
pm UK time. Chat times do not change for Daylight Saving/Summer
Time.  Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.

Go into any Yahoo chat room and type:  /join HP:1 

Hope to see you there! 

 





From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 16:11:43 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 16:11:43 -0000
Subject: Book Date
In-Reply-To: <c7knrq+t5f5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7ll7v+3phm@eGroups.com>

Lady McBeth wrote:
> There is a rumor flying around that book six is being sent to the 
> publishers on sept 8 for a equinox publishing.  This seems a bit 
> unlikely to me.  The publishers know that it would take longer 
than 
> two weeks to put together enough copies to satifsfy the first run 
> needs.  On the other hand the Sept. 8th date may be enough time to 
> put together enough copies for a Halloween release date!

Both Bloomsbury and JKR deny the rumour:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_3689000/3689991.stm

Pity, though. 
-- Amanar




From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May  9 20:22:19 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 20:22:19 -0000
Subject: Book Date
In-Reply-To: <c7knrq+t5f5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7m3tr+lr88@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mcdee1980" <mcdee1980 at y...>
wrote:
> There is a rumor flying around that book six is being sent to the 
> publishers on sept 8 for a equinox publishing.  This seems a bit 
> unlikely to me.  The publishers know that it would take longer than 
> two weeks to put together enough copies to satifsfy the first run 
> needs.  On the other hand the Sept. 8th date may be enough time to 
> put together enough copies for a Halloween release date!
> Lady McBeth

All previous HP book releases were in the summer *because* JKR didn't
want children to miss time from school.




From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May  9 20:24:11 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 20:24:11 -0000
Subject: POA line parties across Southern California
In-Reply-To: <c7f2of+faoi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7m41b+dsfb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kaisenji" <kaisenji at y...> wrote:
> Someone on another list mentioned line parties so I think I too would
> like to know is there a general place one can find information on line
> parties in Southern California or anywhere in the states?
> 
> Curiously yours,
> Kai
> *whom resides in So.Calif and heat or not will be in full costume*

There is an HPfGU-California for *exactly* this purpose. Check
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-California/message/428




From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 22:05:28 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:05:28 -0000
Subject: Wild HP theories
Message-ID: <c7m9v8+sloj@eGroups.com>

Amanar is happy to anounce that for the first time, she managed to 
catch the weekly chat!

It was a bit slow at first, but then I started to throw wild 
Potterverse thoughts to see if someone reacts, and it rolled into a 
wild theories chat. So I collected them from all over the transcript 
thinking I'd share.
Enjoy ;P


A(Amanar): Snape and Luna are gonna get married

A: Voldemort will elope with Harry, leaving the DEs with Kreacher

P: Snape/McGonagall - their bickering are merely signs of affection

A: A wild triangle love affair including Lupin, Umbridge and 
Marchbanks

A: Ron is so obvious. as if he really doesn't fancy Eloise Midgeon

P(profsnapefan): Snape/Neville - you know there's got to be a reason 
Snape gives him such a hard time in class, probably trying to hide 
his attraction to him (pardon me if this is lame, I'm new at weird 
ships, lol) -he's bullying Neville sort of like kids pulling the 
hair of the girl they like 

A: Mad-Eye Moody and Aragog- they have an eye fetish

P: Ollivander & Madame Malkin (Why should those at Hogwarts be 
having all the fun?)

A: Harry's trunk is actually a metamorphmagus, biding its time for 
Voldemort's return so he could steal all the Muggle pants and 
transform them into the worst Dark Muggle-wear army in the world!

P: Lily is actually alive, Snape is hiding her in the dungeons 
(since he's always loved her obviously) and he is keeping her under 
wraps with a combination of memory charms and glamour spells so that 
other staff may just think of her as his sickly/withdrawn wife. And 
when the war is over and the truth can be told, he, Lily and Harry 
will be one happy family

A: remember that barman in the Hog's Head? Well, he is non other 
than Arabella Figg's ex-husband Rodrigo. He was the first owner of 
Crookshanks, but threw him away after he broke the Radio in the 
middle of comentary for cricket semi-finals

P: Voldemort is actually DD's son from a youthful indescretion 
between DD and his mother. When he found that out, that's what 
caused him to go bonkers (knowing that he was being forced to live 
with a muggle father when his actually father was a great wizard, 
and being denied that status) - hence the real reason DD is the one 
wizard he fears since who wants to go up against their dad

A: Few people are aware that Blast-Ended Skrewts are not, as was 
once thought, cross breeds but actually a mix of sea slugs and a 
Filibuster Firework that has gotten horribly, horribly wrong

P: In the last chapter of the book 7, DD is going to use the time-
turner to go back and stop Voldie before he rises to power, thereby 
changing everyone's life as we know it.
(possible last sentences:)

P: "And graduating from Hogwarts, there was a 17 year old boy named 
Harry Potter, waving to his parents, his forehead bore no scar"

P: "And so ends the tale of the boy who used to be only famous for 
his scar". 

A: "and he fell from grace, just like The Lion King's Scar"

A: The Daily Prophet actually is a *daily prophet,* predicting 
tommorow's weather. Rita Skeeter stole the name and sued the prophet 
as if he stole her Trademark. And so, now sits a lonely man, 
predicting tommorow's meals in Azkaban, not knowing he was special. 
Not knowing he was famous. Unaware that he had not taken a bath in 
years

P: Crookshanks is actually Bill Weasley, sent to keep an eye on the 
kids in the castle. After this is revealed, they'll get married 
because who knows what crookshanks has seen...
lupinesque: During Umbridge's brief sojourn in the Forest, she and 
Grawp spawned a love child, who will in fact be the one who 
vanquishes Voldemort

P: "grawp loses his way in the forest and passes out, hence feeding 
aragog and all his family throughout a harsh winter"

A: Remember Florence? What Bertha didn't mention in DD's Pensieve is 
that while her kisser was a competent wizard, she in fact was not a 
Hogwarts student at all. Not even human actually, but the beautiful, 
loveable famous glass wall of Greenhouse Three.

hermionesmum: Spoken by Lily who has just greeted Harry behind the 
veil, and audible to Hermione and Luna who have fallen on the steps 
of the dias. Harry has turned to look back at them as she 
says. "they'll be alright you know. It healed in the end didn't it, 
that scar" We all simultaneously blub and feel elated and uncheated 
by a cliche thanks to the genius of JKR. 

See you next Sunday! (I hope)
--Amanar




From entropymail at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 12:57:29 2004
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:57:29 -0000
Subject: Fabula Rasa Fanfics
Message-ID: <c7nu7p+330p@eGroups.com>

Just a note to those of you who, like me, were wondering where Fabula
had disappeared to :

http://www.livejournal.com/users/fabularasa/

(Yay!)

:: Entropy ::




From jasonlava at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 13:44:59 2004
From: jasonlava at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:44:59 -0000
Subject: My pet rat
Message-ID: <c7o10r+piot@eGroups.com>

Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie.  She's the sweetest 
thing in the world and very very smart.  She already knows her name 
and I'm teaching her a few tricks.

What does this have to do with HP?  Her name is LUNA.





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 15:50:36 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:50:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Gabrielle! (belated)
Message-ID: <20040510155036.95283.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

*decorates room with bandaged fingers and wanders off
in search of a very large birthday cake*

Yes, I'm a day behind. Sincere apologies to Gabrielle,
who can blame my forgetfulness on the excitement of
seeing more of PoA on TV last night.

Yesterday's birthday honouree was Gabrielle. Birthday
owls can be sent care of this list or directly to:
gabrielle9678 at yahoo.co.uk

I hope your day was filled with magic and the company
of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Gabrielle!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

=====
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From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 18:52:17 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 18:52:17 -0000
Subject: Twelve?
Message-ID: <c7oj11+bj16@eGroups.com>

I've been wondering- 
what *are* the twelve uses of dragon blood?

Anyone wants to take a guess?
-- Amanar




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 19:19:59 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:19:59 -0000
Subject: Twelve?
In-Reply-To: <c7oj11+bj16@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7okkv+2vop@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" <naama2486 at y...> wrote:
> I've been wondering- 
> what *are* the twelve uses of dragon blood?
> 
> Anyone wants to take a guess?
> -- Amanar

Well, JKR said the twelfth one was oven cleaner...

So:

12. Oven cleaner.

11. An ingredient in a very potent medicine that cures *whatever* ails
you and some things that don't.  Has unfortunate side effect of making
you lose all your hair, as though it were singed off.

10. A solvent for magical paint (the kind they use for those portraits).

That's probably enough out of me -- anyone else?

Annemehr




From neonsister at ameritech.net  Mon May 10 21:00:10 2004
From: neonsister at ameritech.net (neonsister at ameritech.net)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:00:10 -0000
Subject: My pet rat
In-Reply-To: <c7o10r+piot@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7oqgr+6dic@eGroups.com>

 Jason, I used to have a white guinea pig named Luna!  I actually 
gave her that name before the HP character came about.  Have fun with 
your new rat...they are great pets!

Tracy




From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Tue May 11 02:02:04 2004
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:02:04 -0000
Subject: Twelve?
In-Reply-To: <c7okkv+2vop@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7pc6s+2teq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" <naama2486 at y...> 
wrote:
> > I've been wondering- 
> > what *are* the twelve uses of dragon blood?
> > 
> > Anyone wants to take a guess?
> > -- Amanar
> 
> Well, JKR said the twelfth one was oven cleaner...
> 
> So:
> 
> 12. Oven cleaner.
> 
> 11. An ingredient in a very potent medicine that cures *whatever* 
ails
> you and some things that don't.  Has unfortunate side effect of 
making
> you lose all your hair, as though it were singed off.
> 
> 10. A solvent for magical paint (the kind they use for those 
portraits).
> 
> That's probably enough out of me -- anyone else?

I once wrote a filk on the topic:

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/places/beasts.htm#The_Twelve_Magic_Uses

   - CMC





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Tue May 11 09:27:23 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:27:23 -0000
Subject: Speaking of filks...
Message-ID: <c7q69r+jim5@eGroups.com>

You can get ?10,000 a year for it now.

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3702313.stm

David




From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Tue May 11 17:02:02 2004
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:02:02 +0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Beyond the Potterverse
Message-ID: <002601c43779$b0b15a40$c941983e@rcomputer>

Jo wrote:
>Hi,with all the speculation and disappointment over a release date
>for book 6 I was wondering what people are reading beyond the
>Potterverse? (Wait, you mean there are other books?!!). Any
>reccomendations?
Well, I am now into an excellent fantasy-mystery series, the Liam Rhenford
novels by Daniel Hood, about Quaestor Liam Rhenford and his familiar,
dog-size dragon
Fanuilh. The series begins with poor young scholar Liam Rhenford, a bit of a
rolling stone, coming to the rich seaside merchant town of Southwark after a
time of absense and going to visit his old friend, powerful wizard Tarquin
Tanaquil, only to find Tarquin with a dagger in his heart. Tarquin's
familiar, little dragon Fanuilh, was magically bound to Tarquin and would
die if he couldn't find himself a new master, so Fanuilh bound himself to
Liam as his familiar. He then asked Liam to find Tarquin's murderer, and
Liam began to investigate. Coeccias, the Aedile (Sheriff) of Southwark, a
honest, straighforward man, helped Liam very much, but at some point Liam
himself became the main suspect in Coeccias's eyes, for it turned out that
Tarquin made a will and left all his property, his nice house near the town
including, to Liam. Liam managed to persuade Coeccias that he knew nothing
of the will, and, with Fanuilh's help, he found Tarquin's murderess.
Somewhere in the course of the investigation Liam found he is being called
Quaestor (investigator in Latin, sometning like a Deputy Sheriff). So, when
all this was over, Liam settled down as a house-owner and the Quaestor of
Southwark, but, to his annoyance, all the town of Southwark now considered
him a wizard, with Tarquin's magic house and Fanuilh and all. Liam knew so
little of magic that he couldn't, as a honest man, to call himself a wizard,
but all the town was impossible to dissuade, of course, everyone who saw him
with Fanuilh thought him a powerful wizard, and Liam sometimes used that to
influence an uncooperative suspect. Though Liam wasn't a wizard, he was a
very intelligent, scholarly and brave, even daredevil, young man,- he once,
being imprisoned and to be tried on the charge of murder, found out and
caught the real murderers, and then, his name being cleared as a result,
declined the office of the Aedile of Dippenmoor, the main city of the
province. He was content to be just a Quaestor, as he was his own master, a
free lance, he once  served as one of the associate judges in the circuit
court of the province, but retired, as he didn't like the pressure. Tarquin
called him 'the young man who does not care a straw', and Coeccias - 'my
lord, capable of anything.'  Of course, Liam had Fanuilh to help and defend
him - Fanuilh was brave, loyal and intelligent, could do simple but
effective spells, such as to light a fire or to make someone itch, laugh or
fall asleep, and of course he had claws, fangs and wings as well. The
writing is very good, with livid descriptions and a lot of humor. The
setting is late Middle Ages - feudal struggles and rich merchant cities, and
so on. Read the books, you won't regret it.
Maria









From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 11 17:16:53 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:16:53 -0000
Subject: Beyond the Potterverse
In-Reply-To: <c7if4n+3b76@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7r1q5+e3ou@eGroups.com>

Hi All,

<Jo>what people are reading beyond the Potterverse? [...] Any 
recommendations?</Jo>

Well, I was stung by the Guardian's list of 101 things to do in 2004 
which included "read a book written for grown-ups". 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1114402,00.html
http://tinyurl.com/2zzgq
So I went on a hunt, and came across this quote from Virginia Woolf 
about George Elliot's Middlemarch: "one of the few English novels 
written for grown-up people". Anyway, I've just finished it. It is 
absolutely nothing like HP, but none the less is one of the best 
books I've ever read. It combines the broad sweep and astute 
observation from Tolstoy, the Victorian country life and sense of 
fate from Hardy, with some very very fine writing. I totally 
recommend it. It's longer than OotP too!

Cheers,

Dumbledad





From lists at heidi8.com  Tue May 11 20:55:37 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:55:37 -0000
Subject: Meet me at the movies?
Message-ID: <c7rek9+m90n@eGroups.com>

Tickets for the Gigantic & Massive Fandom Get-Together for POA on 
the afternoon of June 5th at the LOEWS IMAX theater in NYC are back 
on sale - and still at a discount - although the prices have gone up 
a little for those who are post-college-graduate-ages.

If you're paying via PayPal - Tickets are still $10.00 for those who
are college students or younger, but tickets for adults are now
$13.00. The popcorn/soda combination is still $2.50.

If you're paying via check or money order - Tickets are 9.50 for a
kid/college student ticket, 12.50 for an adult ticket, 2.25 for
popcorn+soda. If you want to pay for tickets this way, please send
an email to help at f... with your name and the number of
tickets that you're reserving. Your email will hold your ticket
reservation until your payment arrives, and sending an email
obligates you to send a check or money order. We do not recommend
sending cash. Address information for this type of payment is at
http://www.fictionalley.org/POA_NYC.html

If you want to purchase tickets via PayPal, please click here:
http://www.fictionalley.org/POA_NYC.html

As of today, we'd already sold over 250 tickets - the theater holds
600 people, but we don't know how quickly we're going to sell out.
So if you want to be sure that you'll have a seat, order sooner than
later.

Tickets will be distributed in the 90 minutes before showtime, and
closer to the date, we'll post here to let everyone know exactly
where we'll be. Seats are first-come, first served, based on
arrivals at the theater that afternoon.

We still don't know a definite start time, but we *think* the show
will begin at 4:00 pm.

See you there!


Heidi





From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 22:46:39 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:46:39 -0000
Subject: My pet rat
In-Reply-To: <c7o10r+piot@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7rl4f+gor5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <jasonlava at y...> 
wrote:
> Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie.  She's the sweetest 
> thing in the world and very very smart.  She already knows her name 
> and I'm teaching her a few tricks.
> 
> What does this have to do with HP?  Her name is LUNA.

Welcome to the club!  My Hermione just celebrated her first birthday!

aj




From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Wed May 12 00:15:23 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:15:23 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: My pet rat
References: <c7rl4f+gor5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000101c437b6$38817400$05030f04@dslverizon.net>

> Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie.  She's the sweetest
> thing in the world and very very smart.  She already knows her name
> and I'm teaching her a few tricks.
>
> What does this have to do with HP?  Her name is LUNA.

Welcome to the club!  My Hermione just celebrated her first birthday!

aj

Silverthorne

Neat! Of course, I have to laugh--I have a pair of female ratties--one
white, one brown-black. Well, the brown black one figured out how to get out
her home within three hours of being put into it--so she got named Hermione
for being so smart....^^;

The shy, white rat (who is just as smart, but a bit more sedate)? I named
her 'Ronnie' ^^





From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed May 12 01:11:06 2004
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:11:06 -0000
Subject: Book Announcement
Message-ID: <c7rtja+9jhr@eGroups.com>

I tried to send this hours ago (to HPOT and a bunch of other places)
and it hasn't arrived so I'm going to send it again through the web
interface. Apologies if it later turns up.

I love the fact there's an OT list at times like this.

I just wanted to let people know - having checked with the agent 
it's OK to announce this.  

I've mentioned previously here, my voluntary work with profoundly 
gifted kids. Well...

Currently scheduled for release in Autumn (US spring) of 2005, is a 
book called "High-IQ Kids: A Manual for Adults Who Care: Personal 
Stories - Professional Advice" edited by Kiesa Kay and Annette 
Sheely. It is to be published by DeLeon Publishing.

One of the chapters of the book (it's an anthology) 'Surviving In 
Spite of It All' was written by me! so I'm quite stoked about this 
happening.






From nkafkafi at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 02:07:22 2004
From: nkafkafi at yahoo.com (nkafkafi)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:07:22 -0000
Subject: Beyond the Potterverse
In-Reply-To: <c7if4n+3b76@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7s0sq+tt0u@eGroups.com>

<jojobinks1983 at y...> wrote:
> Hi,with all the speculation and disappointment over a release date 
> for book 6 I was wondering what people are reading beyond the 
> Potterverse? (Wait, you mean there are other books?!!). Any 
> reccomendations?
> 
> Jo


I recommend the Miles Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold. The 
setting is standard science fiction, but even if this genre is not 
your cup of tea (or the opposite - you prefer your SF very original) 
don't worry. The main strength of the series is in the plot, the 
character development and the humor. As in HP, you get to follow the 
main characters in their life through many books, get to know them 
very well and getting very attached to them. There are some books 
that I reread just for fun, and HP and MV are among them. Start 
from "Shards of Honor" (nowadays sometimes included in "Cordelia's 
Honor") and continue from there. You have enough books in the series 
for many months of enjoyable reading.

Neri  




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Tue May 11 22:52:05 2004
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:52:05 +1000
Subject: Book Announcement!
Message-ID: <40A1E5B5.7901.251298@localhost>

I love the fact there's an OT list at times like this.

I just wanted to let people know - having checked with the agent 
it's OK to announce this.  

I've mentioned previously here, my voluntary work with profoundly 
gifted kids. Well...

Currently scheduled for release in Autumn (US spring) of 2005, is a 
book called "High-IQ Kids: A Manual for Adults Who Care: Personal 
Stories - Professional Advice" edited by Kiesa Kay and Annette 
Sheely. It is to be published by DeLeon Publishing.

One of the chapters of the book (it's an anthology) 'Surviving In 
Spite of It All' was written by me! so I'm quite stoked about this 
happening.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 03:16:02 2004
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:16:02 -0000
Subject: "Say-booo" Was: Re: Twelve?
In-Reply-To: <c7pc6s+2teq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7s4ti+jj1c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" 
<coriolan at w...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" 
<naama2486 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > > I've been wondering- 
> > > what *are* the twelve uses of dragon blood?
> > > 
> > > Anyone wants to take a guess?
> > > -- Amanar
> > 
[snip]
> 
> I once wrote a filk on the topic:
> 
> 
http://home.att.net/~coriolan/places/beasts.htm#The_Twelve_Magic_Uses
> 
>    - CMC

Too Funny! I especially love the two magical uses of Veggie Tales 
songs. Just the other day I was trying to get my husband to remember 
the Cebu song, but he insists he hasn't seen it. Must make him watch 
it ;-)

Beth




From dradamsapple at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 03:21:04 2004
From: dradamsapple at yahoo.com (dradamsapple)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:21:04 -0000
Subject: Book Announcement
In-Reply-To: <c7rtja+9jhr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7s570+2eh4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just wanted to let people know - having checked with the agent 
> it's OK to announce this.  
> 
> I've mentioned previously here, my voluntary work with profoundly 
> gifted kids. Well...
> 
> Currently scheduled for release in Autumn (US spring) of 2005, is a 
> book called "High-IQ Kids: A Manual for Adults Who Care: Personal 
> Stories - Professional Advice" edited by Kiesa Kay and Annette 
> Sheely. It is to be published by DeLeon Publishing.
> 
> One of the chapters of the book (it's an anthology) 'Surviving In 
> Spite of It All' was written by me! so I'm quite stoked about this 
> happening.


Well done!

I've been lurking lately, but this definately brought me out of 
lurkdom! Congratulations!

Do we get first dibs on the autographed copies?  lol :)


Anna . . .(whose been living at http://www.livejournal.com)




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 08:05:15 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 04:05:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Peter!
Message-ID: <20040512080515.41040.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>

*sneaks in quietly, flinging confetti and dragging a
food trolley, hoping no one notices the lateness of
the hour*

Well, it's still the 11th somewhere, isn't it? 

Today's birthday honouree is Peter. Birthday owls can
be sent care of this list or directly to: pfsch at gmx.de

I hope your day was filled with magic and the company
of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Peter!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Wed May 12 08:09:06 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:09:06 -0000
Subject: 101 thing (was Beyond the Potterverse)
In-Reply-To: <c7r1q5+e3ou@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7sm32+k6m5@eGroups.com>

Dumbledad recommended:

> Well, I was stung by the Guardian's list of 101 things to do in 
2004 
> which included "read a book written for grown-ups". 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1114402,00.html
> http://tinyurl.com/2zzgq

I thought the juxtaposition of 17 and 18 was inspired:

"17 Go and see the locusts. 2004 is the year that the 17-year locust 
emerges across the United States. Millions of them - they're 
actually a type of cicada - will make a loud, creepy buzzing sound 
all summer, breed, and then disappear for another 17 years. 

18 Monitor the US elections. The American presidential election is 
scheduled for November 2. Why not spend the week in Florida, soaking 
up the sun, seeing the sights and ensuring that no large boxes of 
uncounted votes go missing?"

David




From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 09:12:11 2004
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:12:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Digest Number 1497 Re: welcome to the club
In-Reply-To: <1084348235.1109.24418.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040512091211.40602.qmail@web61005.mail.yahoo.com>




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jason" 
wrote:
> Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie. > 
> What does this have to do with HP? Her name is LUNA.


AJ replied:
Welcome to the club! My Hermione just celebrated her first birthday!

Silverthorne

Neat! Of course, I have to laugh--I have a pair of female ratties

 the brown black one figured out how to get out
her home within three hours of being put into it--so she got named Hermione
for being so smart....^^;

The shy, white rat (who is just as smart, but a bit more sedate)? I named
her 'Ronnie' ^^


Hello, I'm Sam.

Who else is inflicting HP names on defenseless creatures?

My daughter Hermione is eight months. I expect she'll hate me for it one day and change it, or go out of her  way not to be swotty but I like it:) One of the midwives told me she'd not come across a Hermione before, although she had once delivered a Hedwig. (a German name apparently)

Just wondering what other living tributes to JKR's characters there are out there? Somehow I think natural selection intended us to grow out of these things before we started breeding, what was it Hagrid said along the lines of there being freaks in every species? 

Sam




		
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From burningfire at comcast.net  Wed May 12 10:26:19 2004
From: burningfire at comcast.net (=?US-ASCII?B?U2FyaWU=?=)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 06:26:19 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Birthday, Peter!
In-Reply-To: <20040512080515.41040.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MOEIINMICPOHPPKCIGJKOEKECOAA.burningfire@comcast.net>


Sheryll the Birthday Elf wrote:
>  Today's birthday honouree is Peter. Birthday owls can
>  be sent care of this list or directly to: pfsch at gmx.de
>
>  I hope your day was filled with magic and the company
>  of good friends.
>
>  Happy Birthday, Peter!

  
Happy Birthday, Peter. *brings cookies* Get anything good? My mom's gettin
me some Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans. XD

- Sarie -



  




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 23:19:58 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:19:58 -0000
Subject: Brit Speak:  Difference between Fireman and Soldier?
Message-ID: <c7ubeu+7brf@eGroups.com>

Found this in a list of Kid's jokes at CBBC Newsround-

Q: What is the difference between a fireman and a soldier?

A: You can't dip a fireman in your egg.

Sorry, but I don't get it.

How or why CAN you dip a soldier in your egg?

It's got to be a British thing.

These Joke on the Newsround site were all really lame kid jokes, but
according to a different page on humor Brit's found this joke
extremely hilarious.

----Quote----
And it took three months (of research) to find out that Brits giggled
most at this Sherlock Holmes joke.


Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson are going camping. They pitch their tent
under the stars and go to sleep. Some time in the middle of the night,
Holmes wakes Watson up. "Watson, look up at the stars, and tell me
what you deduce."

Watson says: "I see millions of stars and even if a few of those have
planets, it's quite likely there are some planets like Earth; and if
there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life."

Holmes replies: "Watson, you idiot, somebody stole our tent!" 
---end quote---

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_1889000/1889788.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_1721000/1721308.stm

bboy_mn






From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed May 12 23:32:24 2004
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:32:24 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Brit Speak:  Difference between Fireman and Soldier?
In-Reply-To: <c7ubeu+7brf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <40A340A8.10238.3504697@localhost>

On 12 May 2004 at 23:19, Steve wrote:

> Found this in a list of Kid's jokes at CBBC Newsround-
> 
> Q: What is the difference between a fireman and a soldier?
> 
> A: You can't dip a fireman in your egg.
> 
> Sorry, but I don't get it.
> 
> How or why CAN you dip a soldier in your egg?
> 
> It's got to be a British thing.

'Soldiers' refers to buttered toast cut into strips - and quite 
commonly used to dip into a boiled egg.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From Janicem211 at aol.com  Thu May 13 04:50:39 2004
From: Janicem211 at aol.com (jemnilla28)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 04:50:39 -0000
Subject: ADDITIONAL BOOKS?
In-Reply-To: <c7gnao+ju7s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7uuqv+jd1b@eGroups.com>

JKR won't even answer whether Harry will be alive at the end of Book 
7, so no one knows.

I did read somewhere that she's not planning a prequel of any sort 
because she said that we will have all the backstory that we will 
need about James, Lily and the others from that time. 

Plus, why would anyone want to read about them if we all know what 
ultimately happens to them? 





From classicharrypotter at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 20:37:13 2004
From: classicharrypotter at yahoo.com (classicharrypotter)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:37:13 -0000
Subject: new hptcg site
Message-ID: <c7u1tp+34lg@eGroups.com>

Hello. I am making a new HP trading card game site for those of you 
who still love the game. The site is up and running at 
www.geocities.com/classicharrypotter. I am updating it everyday. I am 
doing this website on my own free time and for the love of the tcg. 
All i ask is for you to stop by, sign the guestbook and take a look 
around. I use to visit pojos hp site all the time but they have since 
stopped updating it unless juicy news comes out and I just wanted to 
use some of my free time to hopefully get this tcg back on its feet 
since there arent many hp trading card game sites that are still 
updated. So stop by and email me what you think. I hope that soon I 
will have good traffic. I have many ideas for the site. Hope to see 
you there!





From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 07:04:23 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 07:04:23 -0000
Subject: My pet rat
In-Reply-To: <000101c437b6$38817400$05030f04@dslverizon.net>
Message-ID: <c7v6ln+s4u9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Silverthorne" 
<silverthorne.dragon at v...> wrote:
> > Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie. 

By the way-- is your new sweetie the only rattie?  Because ratties 
are VERY social and really crave rattie company!  My Hermione is not 
the only rattie (she's just the one with the HP name).

Just had to mention... Besides, it's so cute when they groom and 
cuddle and play with each other...

aj





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 12:51:07 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:51:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Neil and Parker!
Message-ID: <20040513125107.60119.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com>

*surveys the decorated room with satisfaction, right
down to the glittery confettie suspended in air*

Can someone help me with the food? I'll bring the
cakes in the meantime.

*exits, and returns quickly with 2 very large cakes*

Okay, let's get the party started.

Today's birthday honourees are two people I consider
very special, Neil and Parker. Birthday owls can be
sent care of this list or directly to Neil at:
neilward at dircon.co.uk and Parker at: pbnesbit at msn.com

I hope you both have very magical days, filled with
fun and the company of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Neil!
Happy Birthday, Parker!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Thu May 13 12:54:09 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 7:54:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: My pet rat
Message-ID: <20040513125409.IAFS2677.out005.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>

<silverthorne.dragon at v...> wrote:
> > Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie. 


Aj: 

By the way-- is your new sweetie the only rattie?  Because ratties 
are VERY social and really crave rattie company!  My Hermione is not 
the only rattie (she's just the one with the HP name).


Er, yeah, 'Ronnie'....lol. I think you may have confused me with one fo the otehr four peeps with ratties. No, my own Hermione and her 'sister' Ronnie have each other as well as me to play around with--not to mention a 4 foot tall, 3 layered cage (With plastic layered over the wire so that they don't get bumble foot), with lots of room to run in and climb on.

Plus Saturday night when all the cats get shooed out of Momma Anne's room and they get run of the floor for a few hours...(Under careful supervision and blocked off from places that humans cannot follow)...^^ So, no worries there. 

Silverthorne/Anne



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From lists at heidi8.com  Thu May 13 15:47:47 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:47:47 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: ADDITIONAL BOOKS?
Message-ID: <f7.3a81d565.2dd4f2a3@aol.com>


On Thu, 13 May 2004 2:16am, Janicem211 at aol.com wrote:
>
>Plus, why would anyone want to read about them if we all know what
>ultimately happens to them?
>
Well, we know what ultimately happens to Cedric - and some would say, we know what happens to Sirius - but we have over a hundred stories about Cedric on FA and hundreds about Sirius since OOTP's release.

I don't think she has any clue how much backstory people want about the smallest characters. A friend of mine wrote a wonderful story about Newt Scamanderr, and there's hundredsof people on the Regulus Black Discussion group. 
There's a lot people want to know about the characters. All of them.

Heidi, who notes that fics can be found using the Sorting section of http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums 



From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 06:11:26 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 06:11:26 -0000
Subject: My pet rat
In-Reply-To: <20040513125409.IAFS2677.out005.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c81nue+76nd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Silverthorne 
<silverthorne.dragon at v...> wrote:
> <silverthorne.dragon at v...> wrote:
> > > Last Friday I bought a 4 wk old baby rattie. 
> 
> 
> Aj: 
> 
> By the way-- is your new sweetie the only rattie?  Because ratties 
> are VERY social and really crave rattie company!  My Hermione is 
>not the only rattie (she's just the one with the HP name).
> 
> 
> Er, yeah, 'Ronnie'....lol. I think you may have confused me with 
one fo the otehr four peeps with ratties. No, my own Hermione and 
her 'sister' Ronnie have each other as well as me 

Ah, ok, I was wondering about "Luna."  :)




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 06:17:58 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 06:17:58 -0000
Subject: U.S. Navy Photo
Message-ID: <c81oam+rrvn@eGroups.com>

A U.S. Navy seaman paints his ship in Gryffindor colors like a big 
scarf.  (That is, that's how it looked to me!)

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/may2004/index/ii051304m.jpg




From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Fri May 14 08:30:03 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:30:03 -0000
Subject: Brit Speak:  Difference between Fireman and Soldier?
In-Reply-To: <40A340A8.10238.3504697@localhost>
Message-ID: <c8202b+b0p8@eGroups.com>

Steve wrote:
> 
> > Found this in a list of Kid's jokes at CBBC Newsround-
> > 
> > Q: What is the difference between a fireman and a soldier?
> > 
> > A: You can't dip a fireman in your egg.
> > 
> > Sorry, but I don't get it.
> > 
> > How or why CAN you dip a soldier in your egg?
> > 
> > It's got to be a British thing.

Shaun:

> 'Soldiers' refers to buttered toast cut into strips - and quite 
> commonly used to dip into a boiled egg.

Phew!  Well thought of, Shaun!  For a moment there I thought the 
Americans had rumbled our top-secret projects, to miniaturise the 
Armed Forces, and to create giant genetically modified eggs, for 
aiming at the faces of enemy politicians.

David




From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Sat May 15 20:25:42 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:25:42 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
Message-ID: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>



  Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk

  It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Sat May 15 21:15:59 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:15:59 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c861af+m5hs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <flitwicksman at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
>   Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk
> 
>   It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is just amazing. It's so amazing I had to pinch myself.
Canon.... more canon! All those Dean Thomas discussions solved in one 
fell swoop. Update on Bk 6 progress. Promise of hints about Bk 6 for 
regular readers. And she's joined in a Mugglenet chat! And Harry is 
*not* a descendent of Slytherin (not that I thought for a moment he 
was). And, and... well just go look.

It's such a brilliantly designed site, as well. 

Hats off to Jo.

And thank you Brian!

~Eloise





From lists at heidi8.com  Sat May 15 21:19:02 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (heiditandy)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:19:02 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c861af+m5hs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c861g6+km69@eGroups.com>

In the next 20 hours, FictionAlley is going to have up a page of all 
the new bits of info from the site - at least all the ones we're 
able to find (we've already got the ones listed here). It'll be at 
http://www.lumosdissendium.org/essays/tidbits-2004.html


Heidi for FictionAlley

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "eloise_herisson" 
<eloiseherisson at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brian" 
<flitwicksman at y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk
> > 
> >   It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> This is just amazing. It's so amazing I had to pinch myself.
> Canon.... more canon! All those Dean Thomas discussions solved in 
one 
> fell swoop. Update on Bk 6 progress. Promise of hints about Bk 6 
for 
> regular readers. And she's joined in a Mugglenet chat! And Harry 
is 
> *not* a descendent of Slytherin (not that I thought for a moment 
he 
> was). And, and... well just go look.
> 
> It's such a brilliantly designed site, as well. 
> 
> Hats off to Jo.
> 
> And thank you Brian!
> 
> ~Eloise




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat May 15 21:46:37 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:46:37 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JK's Own Site!!!
References: <c861af+m5hs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <011e01c43ac6$1a97ad20$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

I wonder what she'd want in return for the
scene between Malfoy and Nott.  I want my
hands on that scene more then book six and
seven.


Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From hypercolor99 at hotmail.com  Sat May 15 21:54:57 2004
From: hypercolor99 at hotmail.com (alice_loves_cats)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:54:57 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c863jh+pd7e@eGroups.com>

Oh, but isn't she a TEASE about the MuggleNet chat! Making us all feel
so foolish! In a spirit of rebellion I refuse to stop calling the Dark
Lord "Voldie". I read a fanfic where he was talked of as "Mouldy
Voldie", I think that fits perfectly! :)

Oh, how I crave for that Malfoy-Nott scene: I WISH we knew more about
what Draco's like with an equal... 

And the Mark theory! I voted for it, because it's one of the questions
from OOTP that bug me the most: I hope JKR answers quick.

Unfortunately I managed to get so excited about the possibility of
some sort of an answer to the Mark problem that I voted for it without
reading the question behind the Dark Mark: please could someone look
and write it down here? I can't face waiting x hours or until I go
back to college tomorrow to check.

Whatever: vote Mark Evans! :)

I guess I'll just have to stick to my own theory on Who Hermione Loves...

Alice, EU-member woo-hoo!




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <flitwicksman at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk
> 
>   It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




From foxmoth at qnet.com  Sat May 15 21:59:01 2004
From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:59:01 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c863jh+pd7e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c863r5+v2n9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "alice_loves_cats" 
<hypercolor99 at h...> wrote:
 I hope JKR answers quick.
> 
> Unfortunately I managed to get so excited about the possibility 
of some sort of an answer to the Mark problem that I voted for it 
without reading the question behind the Dark Mark: please could 
someone lookand write it down here? I can't face waiting x hours 
or until I go back to college tomorrow to check.
> 
> Whatever: vote Mark Evans! :)
> 

The question: Is Sirius Black really dead? 

Pippin
who also voted for Mark, and has started her hidden content 
scrapbook. Hint: play with the cell phone.






From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sat May 15 22:36:13 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (slytherinspirit)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:36:13 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c863r5+v2n9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8660t+hhme@eGroups.com>


> Pippin
> who also voted for Mark, and has started her hidden content 
> scrapbook. Hint: play with the cell phone.

K

Thanks for the tip - worked out what number I needed first time (well 
second time but only because I apparently don't have a good mental 
image of where everything *is* on a keypad, had to check with my 
phone to see whic digit was wrong!)

What's the deal with the hairband? Anyone?

JKR apparently doesn't think much of the number of people who 
identify with Slytherin though - honestly, they're ambitios, clever, 
devious, scheming, and back stabbing, what's *not* to love?

K
*who things that Slytherins would have blended right in in 
renaissance Italy (Medicis, Borgias, Malfoys ...)




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat May 15 22:47:14 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:47:14 -0000
Subject: Brit Speak: Child in a Highchair Drinking Tea?
Message-ID: <c866li+pvdh@eGroups.com>

I was on JKR's website, in her Biography section and she is discussing
when she first heard that her book would be published. In it she said
something strange, and I wondered if people who are familiar with
British language and culture could tell me if she likely meant this
figuratively or literally.

"...It's definitely going to be published?' After I had hung up, I
screamed and jumped into the air; Jessica, who was sitting in her
high-chair enjoying tea, looked thoroughly scared."

When she says '...enjoying tea...' does she mean that a child young
enough to need a highchair was literally drinking tea? I know tea is a
great part of British culture, but isn't tea for an infant a little
too much. Or, did she mean, as I greatly hope, that the child was
having a snack?

Of course, not being there we can't say with absolute certainty, but
certainly someone who is knowledgable in British language could give a
likely meaning.

Just curious.

bboy_mn





From lists at heidi8.com  Sat May 15 22:51:30 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 18:51:30 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Brit Speak: Child in a Highchair Drinking Tea?
Message-ID: <ea.4e77be0a.2dd7f8f2@aol.com>

I thought she meant 'tea' as in the afternoon meal.


Heidi
Http://www.fictionalley.org On Sat, 15 May 2004 6:48pm, Steve wrote:
>I was on JKR's website, in her Biography section and she is discussing
>when she first heard that her book would be published. In it she said
>something strange, and I wondered if people who are familiar with
>British language and culture could tell me if she likely meant this
>figuratively or literally.
>
>"...It's definitely going to be published?' After I had hung up, I
>screamed and jumped into the air; Jessica, who was sitting in her
>high-chair enjoying tea, looked thoroughly scared."
>
>When she says '...enjoying tea...' does she mean that a child young
>enough to need a highchair was literally drinking tea? I know tea is a
>great part of British culture, but isn't tea for an infant a little
>too much. Or, did she mean, as I greatly hope, that the child was
>having a snack?
>
>Of course, not being there we can't say with absolute certainty, but
>certainly someone who is knowledgable in British language could give a
>likely meaning.
>
>Just curious.
>
>bboy_mn
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From elrond at paradise.net.nz  Sat May 15 23:09:48 2004
From: elrond at paradise.net.nz (Michael Chance)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:09:48 +1200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Brit Speak: Child in a Highchair Drinking Tea?
References: <c866li+pvdh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c43ad1$c29161a0$a3464fcb@locxvcym>


From: "Steve" <bboy_mn at yahoo.com>


> I was on JKR's website, in her Biography section and she is discussing
> when she first heard that her book would be published. In it she said
> something strange, and I wondered if people who are familiar with
> British language and culture could tell me if she likely meant this
> figuratively or literally.
>
> "...It's definitely going to be published?' After I had hung up, I
> screamed and jumped into the air; Jessica, who was sitting in her
> high-chair enjoying tea, looked thoroughly scared."
>
> When she says '...enjoying tea...' does she mean that a child young
> enough to need a highchair was literally drinking tea? I know tea is a
> great part of British culture, but isn't tea for an infant a little
> too much. Or, did she mean, as I greatly hope, that the child was
> having a snack?
>
> Of course, not being there we can't say with absolute certainty, but
> certainly someone who is knowledgable in British language could give a
> likely meaning.

She almost definitely means that Jessica was her evening meal :) While one
of my mother's friends very English grandmothers did give her cups from when
she was about 4-5 years old, it is highly likely JKR means the evening meal.
(I've always thought of tea, meal-wise, as being a light evening meal when
you've already had your main meal at lunch time).

Michael




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sat May 15 23:09:58 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 00:09:58 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Brit Speak: Child in a Highchair Drinking Tea?
References: <c866li+pvdh@eGroups.com> <000b01c43ad1$c29161a0$a3464fcb@locxvcym>
Message-ID: <001501c43ad1$be6a7440$bcde6251@kathryn>

Michael

> She almost definitely means that Jessica was her evening meal :)

K

I love that typo - JKR a cannibal, you heard it here first :)

Yeah, I agree with the rest of what Michael said, 'tea' is simply the
evening meal (it didn't necessarily mean that the main meal was at lunchtime
when I was a child, although that's how I use it now)

K





From editor at texas.net  Sun May 16 01:29:42 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:29:42 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JK's Own Site!!!
References: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002301c43ae5$4afaf8e0$8958aacf@texas.net>

(still waiting for all the intro to download)

Can I be delighted that the watch on the desktop apparently is correct for
whatever time it's opened in? And it's *running.* That's adorable.

~Amanda

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From editor at texas.net  Sun May 16 01:49:37 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:49:37 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JK's Own Site!!!
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Dial 62442 on the phone.

~Amanda

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Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JK's Own Site!!!


> (still waiting for all the intro to download)
>
> Can I be delighted that the watch on the desktop apparently is correct for
> whatever time it's opened in? And it's *running.* That's adorable.
>
> ~Amanda
>
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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 01:54:07 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:54:07 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c86hjv+oerj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <flitwicksman at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk
> 
>   It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you all catch the name of the (I guess) opening band on the Bay
City Rollers ticket stub?  Hehehe!

And, I never thought of "Voldie" as an endearment, I always saw it as
people's way of taking the "great" Lord Voldemort down a peg or two.

Annemehr
who, being a suspicious type, figured someone had hijacked the boring
old site and put up a hoax -- but that didn't last too long






From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May 16 03:06:12 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 03:06:12 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c85uc6+dglq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c86lr4+e99u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <flitwicksman at y...> wrote:
> 
>   Go to http://www.jkrowling.co.uk
> 
>   It is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it is. Thank you for telling us about it. Thanks to all listies
for giving hints. The answers about Mark Evans, Is Sirius Really Dead,
and Is Severus Lily's Brother cannot be anything planned as a big
surprise for book six or seven, or she wouldn't volunteer to answer
them. Can anyone give me hints about the radio with the on/off switch,
the light on/off switch, and the power switch for the PC, all of which
are clickable but nothing exciting happens?




From joym999 at aol.com  Sun May 16 03:43:54 2004
From: joym999 at aol.com (joywitch_m_curmudgeon)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 03:43:54 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c86lr4+e99u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c86o1q+l07m@eGroups.com>

Without giving anything away <frowns at Amanda>, can anyone say how 
many hidden goodies there are?  I have three objects in my scrapbook, 
so far, but I'm guessing there are more.

--Joywitch




From editor at texas.net  Sun May 16 03:43:18 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 22:43:18 -0500
Subject: JKR site--can anyone get through the door..?
Message-ID: <003501c43af7$f02b01e0$8958aacf@texas.net>

I am stymied. I have three special things in my scrapbook, but I can't do
anything with the feathers that show up with the FAQ letters, with the book
on the shelf with the question mark, or with the door. And I can *see*
pictures in the clouds through the window...and the light-beams in the
window look like the beams going across the photo cube on the desktop....

Argh.

~Amandageist

Those who cannot hear the music, think the dancers daft.




From maidne at yahoo.com  Sat May 15 23:58:51 2004
From: maidne at yahoo.com (maidne)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 23:58:51 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c863r5+v2n9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c86arr+5qr1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
>snip<
> Pippin
> who also voted for Mark, and has started her hidden content 
> scrapbook. Hint: play with the cell phone.

Susan:
I voted for Mark, too.  I have 4 things in my scrapbook.  Anyone know 
how many there are?  And did anyone get anywhere with the locked door?





From ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 00:57:46 2004
From: ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com (Miss Melanie)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 17:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Flash verision of JKR's site!
In-Reply-To: <c861g6+km69@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040516005746.57511.qmail@web50006.mail.yahoo.com>

Okay,
I"m on dial up at the momment and can't even get the flash site to load.  I have coincidentally been sitting at 39% for the last twenty minutes.  I gave up recently and went and read the text only version.  However, much to my dismay I am missing like half the site due to flashing images, easter eggs etc.  Tell me you guys..what all am I missing out on?
 
And if anyone has any ideas on how to get the flash version up let me know.
 
I keep waiting to hear that this is all a hoax, but it sounds far too much like Jo to be fake.
 
~Melanie
 
(Who is going to keep calling him Voldie, it's a cute name.  I even named my evil computer at work after it!)
 

		
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From bookraptor11 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 05:18:03 2004
From: bookraptor11 at yahoo.com (bookraptor11)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 05:18:03 -0000
Subject: The Flash verision of JKR's site!
In-Reply-To: <20040516005746.57511.qmail@web50006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c86tib+j7ad@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Miss Melanie wrote:
> Okay,
> I"m on dial up at the momment and can't even get the flash site to 
load.  I have coincidentally been sitting at 39% for the last twenty 
minutes.  I gave up recently and went and read the text only 
version.  However, much to my dismay I am missing like half the site 
due to flashing images, easter eggs etc.  Tell me you guys..what all 
am I missing out on?
>  
> And if anyone has any ideas on how to get the flash version up let 
me know.
>  
> I keep waiting to hear that this is all a hoax, but it sounds far 
too much like Jo to be fake.
>  
> ~Melanie

I'm de-lurking here, not because I can help Melanie (Sorry!), but to 
add my own plea.

I can get in the flash site. I got in through the Harry Potter Fan 
Zone, not the Leaky Cauldron's link, which I had tried earlier 
without success. I don't know if that helps.

Anyway, once I get on to the site I can't move around. My screen is 
only 15" and I'm missing the bottoms and sides of things,where I'm 
assuming the return to the desk is located, and the site doesn't 
accept my back button.

Donna




From tahewitt at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 06:34:49 2004
From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:34:49 -0000
Subject: JKR's website
Message-ID: <c87229+quut@eGroups.com>

OK, I've been trying all day, but everytime I try to check out the JKR
website,all I get is the
blue page with a list of international publishers. I've read some of the
comments on
Mugglenet and the Leaky Cauldron. It appears that others have had the same
problem, but
it also seems that some people are getting through. No one seems to have an
explanation
for this. Has anyone here heard what the deal is? I'm finding it all
frustrating.

Tyler





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May 16 06:38:43 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:38:43 -0000
Subject: JKR's website
In-Reply-To: <c87229+quut@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8729j+gibp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Hewitt" <tahewitt at y...>
wrote:
<< OK, I've been trying all day, but everytime I try to check out the
JKR website,all I get is the blue page with a list of international
publishers. I've read some of the comments on Mugglenet and the Leaky
Cauldron. It appears that others have had the same problem, but it
also seems that some people are getting through. No one seems to have
an explanation for this. Has anyone here heard what the deal is? I'm
finding it all frustrating. >>

I am totally ignorant about techie things, but it *sounds* to me like
your ISP is one of the ones who keep a 'cache' of copies of web pages
on their own server, so when you access a page, you are really
acessing the local copy that does not have any changes made to the
real page since it was copied. The problem should be solved when they
refresh their copies.




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 09:24:13 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:24:13 -0000
Subject: The Flash verision of JKR's site! Screen Adjust
In-Reply-To: <c86tib+j7ad@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c87bvt+m616@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bookraptor11"
<bookraptor11 at y...> wrote:
> ...edited...
> 
> Anyway, once I get on to the site I can't move around. My screen is 
> only 15" and I'm missing the bottoms and sides of things,where I'm 
> assuming the return to the desk is located, and the site doesn't 
> accept my back button.
> 
> Donna

bboy_mn:

Donna, I'm assuming you are talking about the second window that opens
up. That second screen does not open 'maximized'. In the top right
corner of the window are three symobles. 'underline', 'square', and
'X', click on the 'square' to force the window to fit your screen and
see if that helps. Alternately, in the top left corner of your browser
is a small graphic symbol (a lower case blue 'e' for Internet
Explorer), click on it and a menu will drop down, then select
'Maximize' from that menu.

Hope this helps.

bboy_mn




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sun May 16 10:37:41 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:37:41 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR site--can anyone get through the door..?
References: <003501c43af7$f02b01e0$8958aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <004101c43b31$d0bf70e0$bcde6251@kathryn>

I only have the phone, although admittedly I haven't looked everywhere yet.

Some hints for what you've found would be good (but if they're going to be
answers rather than just hints maybe you should put a warning on)

K
"The Loudest Noise Comes From The Electric Minerva."
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Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:43 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR site--can anyone get through the door..?


> I am stymied. I have three special things in my scrapbook, but I can't do
> anything with the feathers that show up with the FAQ letters, with the
book
> on the shelf with the question mark, or with the door. And I can *see*
> pictures in the clouds through the window...and the light-beams in the
> window look like the beams going across the photo cube on the desktop....
>
> Argh.
>
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>
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From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sun May 16 13:04:13 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:04:13 -0000
Subject: JKR site--can anyone get through the door..?
In-Reply-To: <003501c43af7$f02b01e0$8958aacf@texas.net>
Message-ID: <c87osd+tp4i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> 
wrote:
> I am stymied. I have three special things in my scrapbook, but I 
can't do
> anything with the feathers that show up with the FAQ letters, with 
the book
> on the shelf with the question mark, or with the door. And I can 
*see*
> pictures in the clouds through the window...and the light-beams in 
the
> window look like the beams going across the photo cube on the 
desktop....
> 
> Argh.


Jen: I'm in the same boat. Do you think it has to do with JKR's 
comment that we'll find out more about Book 6 with patience? Maybe 
these clues are waiting to be activated.

Jen, back to visit that locked door again *anyway*




From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Sun May 16 13:25:18 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:25:18 -0000
Subject: Fun and Frustrating...JKR's new site
Message-ID: <c87q3u+4nlo@eGroups.com>

I had great troubles getting the site to load reliably then found a 
link that works well all the time:

http://www.jkrowling.co.uk/en/

Now I've been just about everywhere (I think) and found just about 
everything (I think) -but I know there are things I'm missing.  
Anyone want to offer some help (not answers...just hints)?

Alice said:
>And the Mark theory! I voted for it, because it's one of the 
>questions from OOTP that bug me the most: I hope JKR answers quick.
>
>Unfortunately I managed to get so excited about the possibility of
>some sort of an answer to the Mark problem that I voted for it 
>without reading the question behind the Dark Mark: please could 
>someone look and write it down here? I can't face waiting x hours or 
>until I go back to college tomorrow to check.


Where is there a Mark theory and where is the Dark Mark?

I found Peeves...but no Dark Mark or anything I could vote for.  Hint 
please?

I've gathered the items asked for on the scrap of paper - but don't 
know where they've gone or what to do with them.  I've collected 3 
items in my scrapbook (and they are most cool).  I can't get through 
the locked door and I can't get the "?" book on the shelf to do 
anything.  

OMG!!!!!the cell phone is ringing (I have the page up in another 
window right now)!  I answered it and it sounds like JK 
saying "Hello?"- then it disconnects.  Also, when I returned to the 
page, something has been knocked over...I guess Peeves has struck 
again.  Is this bad given JK's warning not to knock anything over?

Tcy
off to try again




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sun May 16 13:36:27 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:36:27 -0000
Subject: Fun and Frustrating...JKR's new site
In-Reply-To: <c87q3u+4nlo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c87qor+tna5@eGroups.com>

> Tcy:
> Where is there a Mark theory and where is the Dark Mark?
> 
> I found Peeves...but no Dark Mark or anything I could vote for.  
Hint 
> please?
> 
> I've gathered the items asked for on the scrap of paper - but 
don't 
> know where they've gone or what to do with them.  I've collected 3 
> items in my scrapbook (and they are most cool).  I can't get 
through 
> the locked door and I can't get the "?" book on the shelf to do 
> anything.  

Jen:I can't do anything with the locked door either, but mess with 
the "?" Book a little bit more, moving it around and such.

And I'm curious too, where do we get to vote for a theory? Does this 
mean she'll keep answering questions about theories we vote for?!?






From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Sun May 16 13:47:29 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:47:29 -0000
Subject: Fun and Frustrating...JKR's new site
In-Reply-To: <c87qor+tna5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c87rdh+ef8b@eGroups.com>

> Jen:I can't do anything with the locked door either, but mess with 
> the "?" Book a little bit more, moving it around and such.
> 
> And I'm curious too, where do we get to vote for a theory? Does 
this 
> mean she'll keep answering questions about theories we vote for?!?

Tcy:
THANK YOU, Jen!!!!!  That was wonderful!  

There's got to be something with the blasted butterfly...I can't 
touch it...but I'm not giving up.  

I finally found a Dark Mark (but it revealed information I'd read 
yesterday on the text only version of the site)...still nothing about 
Mark Evans or voting.

Tcy
off to explore again




From vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz  Sun May 16 14:58:35 2004
From: vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz (vinnia_chrysshallie)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:58:35 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c87rdh+ef8b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c87vir+11tq@eGroups.com>

> Tcy:

> There's got to be something with the blasted butterfly...I can't 
> touch it...but I'm not giving up.  

Vinnia:
Dont think so...I've clicked on that damn butterfly for so many 
times...and nothing happened. Probably you have to click it right in 
the head or something like that.

Anyone got any clue on how to open that blasted door? I've spent the 
last 3 hours trying! The thing is...it's already 3 am, I'm supposed 
to be in bed ages ago, but couldn't go to sleep. So please help me 
here...don't want to end up like Harry in OoP...dreaming about a 
close door that I can't open!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Vinnia




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun May 16 15:02:29 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 16 May 2004 15:02:29 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1084719749.18.29424.m25@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, May 16, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi everyone! 

Don't forget, chat happens today, 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 7
pm UK time. Chat times do not change for Daylight Saving/Summer
Time.  Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.

Go into any Yahoo chat room and type:  /join HP:1 

Hope to see you there! 

 





From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 15:46:52 2004
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:46:52 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c87vir+11tq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c882dc+jll0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "vinnia_chrysshallie" 
<vinnia_chrysshallie at y...> wrote:
> > Vinnia:
> Dont think so...I've clicked on that damn butterfly for so many 
> times...and nothing happened. Probably you have to click it right 
in 
> the head or something like that.
> 
> Anyone got any clue on how to open that blasted door? I've spent 
the 
> last 3 hours trying! The thing is...it's already 3 am, I'm supposed 
> to be in bed ages ago, but couldn't go to sleep. So please help me 
> here...don't want to end up like Harry in OoP...dreaming about a 
> close door that I can't open!
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Vinnia

Sorry, can't help you with that, since it took me A LOT to make a 
flash version even load on my computer(I am still getting error5s 
sometimes) , but I would love to know that too. :o)

I finally found where to vote for questions. Just wanted to share. :o)

Alla




From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 15:56:51 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:56:51 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c863jh+pd7e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c88303+8fbl@eGroups.com>

Alice:
> And the Mark theory! I voted for it, because it's one of the 
questions
> from OOTP that bug me the most: I hope JKR answers quick.


Mark theory?! Where? What did I miss?


--Amanar, who is proud to have *four* items in her scrapbook, 
meaning she was just lucky today 




From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 16:31:28 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 16:31:28 -0000
Subject: Laura Freeman's drawing
Message-ID: <c88510+b5ll@eGroups.com>

After a long search I think I've found the one JKR talked about:

http://www.nasubionna.net/hp/marauders/mwpp.html
(I always liked the one she did with Arthur Weasley and Lucius 
Malfoy)

(when you say you've found Peeves, do you mean when you hear 
somebocy cackle and things get knocked over?)

Amanar




From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Sun May 16 17:46:23 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:46:23 -0000
Subject: Laura Freeman's drawing
In-Reply-To: <c88510+b5ll@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c889df+4dil@eGroups.com>

Amanar: 
> (when you say you've found Peeves, do you mean when you hear 
> somebocy cackle and things get knocked over?)
> 
> Amanar

In the room with the locked door and the mirror...sometimes Peeves 
shows up and leaves a message for you on the mirror.  He also knocks 
things over on the desktop.  Those are the only 2 places I've found 
him so far.

You found places to vote for questions?  Where?  Hints, please...I've 
not found that yet...I don't think.

Tcy
off to search around again




From ExSlytherin at aol.com  Sun May 16 13:30:17 2004
From: ExSlytherin at aol.com (Mandy)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:30:17 -0000
Subject: JK's Own Site!!!
In-Reply-To: <c86arr+5qr1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c87qd9+c7sr@eGroups.com>

> > Pippin
> > who also voted for Mark, and has started her hidden content 
> > scrapbook. Hint: play with the cell phone.

> Susan:
> I voted for Mark, too.  I have 4 things in my scrapbook.  Anyone 
know  how many there are?  And did anyone get anywhere with the 
locked door?


Mandy here:
Where did you read about Mark Evens and vote?!!!!
I have 4 items in my scrap book so I'm not completely useless but 
help please.
cheers Mandy





From illyana at mindspring.com  Sun May 16 16:32:21 2004
From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:32:21 -0700
Subject: Mark Evans theory (was Re: JK's Own Site!!!)
In-Reply-To: <c88303+8fbl@eGroups.com>
References: <c88303+8fbl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <9B2568A6-A756-11D8-BCB4-000A95CE326E@mindspring.com>


On May 16, 2004, at 8:56 AM, Amanar wrote:
> Mark theory?! Where? What did I miss?

The Mark Evans theory is part of a Poll on the website. Users vote for 
the question they would like JKR to answer in the future.

To get to the Poll - I hope it's okay that I post this, since it's not 
an Easter Egg or otherwise special part of the website - click on the 
pile of paper clips near the top right-hand side of the home page. This 
will bring up the FAQ section of the website. Then, click on any of the 
little envelopes that pop up. This will bring up the actual FAQ. On the 
left-hand side of the FAQ paper (the side with the questions that you 
click on), there is a pop-out area that you use to select which portion 
of the FAQ you would like to view. One of the portions is called "FAQ 
Poll." This is where you vote for the question you would like JKR to 
answer!

Hope that helps!

illyana





From abigailnus at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 21:28:40 2004
From: abigailnus at yahoo.com (abigailnus)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:28:40 -0000
Subject: Mark Evans theory (was Re: JK's Own Site!!!)
In-Reply-To: <9B2568A6-A756-11D8-BCB4-000A95CE326E@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <c88me8+n67a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, illyana delorean <illyana at m...> wrote:
> 
> On May 16, 2004, at 8:56 AM, Amanar wrote:
> > Mark theory?! Where? What did I miss?
> 
> The Mark Evans theory is part of a Poll on the website. Users vote for 
> the question they would like JKR to answer in the future.

Speaking of this, I'd like to encourage people to vote for this question 
as opposed to the other two (Severus Snape=Perseus Evans and will 
Sirius return) since I think that by their very inclusion in the poll we can 
gather that the answer to both questions is no.  Those two devices 
would be major plot twists that JKR would have to be crazy to own up 
to on a web site.  With Mark Evans, I can see JK saying something like 
'Mark Evans will show up in book 6' without giving too much away.  
It's no more revelatory than telling us that there's going to be a new 
MoM in book 6.

Abigail
P.S. I suspect that the answer to the Mark question is also no, but it's 
the only one I'm not certain about.




From mtmarrone at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 21:58:51 2004
From: mtmarrone at yahoo.com (mtmarrone)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:58:51 -0000
Subject: To open Door
Message-ID: <c88o6r+8f0h@eGroups.com>

to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
Then click on on that says my_room.
It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
pressing play.  This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
not distrube" sign on it.  Right cklick and press play, the door will
now open and you can see a book.  Following below to get the book.

To get to the book go to:
http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
and click on the link that says : my room book
Keep pressin g play

Someone post this about the book:

Lorem ipsum is gibberish used in publishing to illustrate would text
would go, if you had written it yet. In other words, the page is not
completed yet, it will eventually open and you'll be able to read
something there.





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May 16 22:09:05 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:09:05 -0000
Subject: what else we've learned
Message-ID: <c88oq1+tcb7@eGroups.com>

JKR has a dog -- presumably the ugly black and white one in the photo
on the bulletin board of Extra Stuff. Dog food is on the shopping list
on that bulletin board.

The bands whose tickets were scrapbooked on the Sean Harris page of
her Bio were the Bay City Rollers and the Smiths. Does that show
something about her musical tastes? 

Besides the wrist watch on the desk picking up the time from my PC,
the windows in the ? room show either a day or a night scene. Has
anyone noticed whether the butterfly on the desk -- blue now, blue
when I started yesterday, yellow in-between -- changes blue -> yellow
for day -> night? Unlike Vinnie, I am not agile enough to catch the
butterfly.

Which icon goes with which News Story in the News Paper changes
apparently randomly.

There are several different ads which can appear on the Tabloid -- the
ad for Charm Your Own Cheese, Revised Edition, says it includes a new
chapter on Dragon Milk Cheeses. Some interesting *reptile* dragons
must be! Today I saw one I hadn't seen yesterday, an ad for The
Quibbler. It announced headline: Fudge Forced to Flee! Minister for
Magic Chased from Office!

Finally, just now, the cackle and knocked over pen cup --- it took me
HOURS to see that was a pen cup and the color-dot things were Bic
stick pens like I use all the time --- for my first encounter with
Peeves! For a long time I thought that was an ashtray containing two
lipsticks and two nail files, and tried to figure out why the nail
files had colored dots. 

I foolishly didn't have the sound on yesterday, so I don't know what I
missed while collecting four items in my scrap book. Of the four items
on the clue, I still need a spider: I've clicked a zillion times on
the spider on the Trophy Case without anything happening. I'm
thinking, if I ever did find and catch the right spider, the pen
dangling from the bulletin board would do something, as it is one of
the images that slides in *after* the background.

I wonder how much of her own time JKR spend devising this seductive
game when she should have been working on book 6?   




From dicentra at xmission.com  Sun May 16 22:34:55 2004
From: dicentra at xmission.com (Dicentra spectabilis)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:34:55 -0000
Subject: From the Main Site: 98447-98528
Message-ID: <c88qag+iehq@eGroups.com>

The following are posts that were deleted from the main site
(HPforGrownups) because they concern *navigation only* of the new JKR
site.

Those posts that contain *canon discussion* of the site contents have
been left intact.

Enjoy!

--Dicey Elf


98447
	

From: Steve <bboy_mn at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 3:30pm
Subject: Re: Busting of Bubbles -JKR - Text Version
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jdr0918" <jdr0918 at h...> wrote:
> JKR's new and totally fabulous website is up
> (http://www.jkrowling.com) and the following theories have been
> rendered null and void:
>
> ...SNIP (examples of juice bits of information)...
>
> --JDR


bboy_mn:

For those of you who find excessive JAVA and overblown FLASH as
tedious as I do, here is a link to the Text Only Version of JKR's website.

For reference, I have tried both the JAVA/FLASH version and the text
version, and I still say the JAVA/FLASH version is tedious, slow,
difficult, but, yes, very fancy; even cute.

http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/welcome.cfm

Just to add another teaser to the mix, JKR went to a MuggleNet Web
Chat and had this to say...

"Nobody was even remotely interested in my theories about what's going
to happen in book 7..."

Sometimes I think we think we know too much.

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn
	
	
98456
	

From: Wanda Sherratt <wsherratt3338 at rogers.com>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 8:02pm
Subject: Re: Busting of Bubbles -JKR - Text Version
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
> Thank you, Steve! I did like the "text-only" version better. :o)
>
But with "text-only", are you able to see all the funny little "ads"
for magical products at the bottom of the "Rumours" page? I thought
those were hilarious - reminded me of the great fun and
lightheartedness of the early HP volumes. My favourite was
for "Magi-Me-More": "Spellwork losing its fizz? Charms gone stale
and droopy? Then you need...Magi-Me-More!!! Losing power and
concentration as you grow older? Roll back the years with Magi-Me-
More! One daily pill and you will be transfiguring like a wizard of
twenty!" Check the healer's warning, too.

Wanda
	
98457
	

From: Beth <jillily3g at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Busting of Bubbles -JKR - Text Version
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Wanda Sherratt"
<wsherratt3338 at r...> wrote:
> But with "text-only", are you able to see all the funny
little "ads"
> for magical products at the bottom of the "Rumours" page?
[snip]

Nope, but for those of us who are unable to get to the original
version, being able to read her answers for ourselves is still
better than reading what is being distilled for us. (Although I do
thank all of those who have taken the time to do that!)

Beth
	
98458
	

From: snow15145 <snow15145 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 9:48pm
Subject: Bubbles
  	  	
First off... Thank you very much to Jdr for the link to the JKR new
and improved websight. Awesome!

I am sure that most if not all of you are enjoying this site right
now as much as I am. I would like to add, for those of you that may
not know, that the Flash program is essential to the "hidden" clues
that JKR has hidden throughout this website. Try the # to the MOM on
the cell phone.

Going back to JKR's desk!

Snow-aka Kathy King
	
98459
	

From: Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 9:52pm
Subject: RE: Bubbles
  	  	
some of us can't access flash programs in web sites. I use screen reading
software, and it doesn't work with flash, so I have to use the text only
link. guess I'll have to live without the hidden clues!

sherry
	

98462
	

From: snow15145 <snow15145 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat May 15, 2004 11:31pm
Subject: Re: Bubbles
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at e...>
wrote:
> some of us can't access flash programs in web sites. I use screen
reading
> software, and it doesn't work with flash, so I have to use the text
only
> link. guess I'll have to live without the hidden clues!
>
> sherry

Sherry I am so sorry that you cant get flash, that is where all the
clues are hidden. Hopefully many people like myself will inform you
of the clues that we will find. The one I suggested is the cell
phone# on her messy desk were you dial in the MOM # and you are
privey to a JKR original (?) of her deleted scene in PS/SS (that
supposedly gave too much away). The letter looks like the one Hagrid
sent the kids in POA with tear drops that smudged it making it
difficult to read. I am still trying to decipher what was written.
Very tedious, but fun. Will try to keep you informed.
Back to the deciphering
Snow-aka Kathy King
	
98465
	

From: khilari2000 <hannah at readysolve.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 4:47am
Subject: Re: Busting of Bubbles -JKR - Text Version
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jdr0918" <jdr0918 at h...>
wrote:
> > JKR's new and totally fabulous website is up
> > (http://www.jkrowling.com) and the following theories have been
> > rendered null and void:
> >
> > ...SNIP (examples of juice bits of information)...
> >
> > --JDR
>
>
> bboy_mn:
>
> For those of you who find excessive JAVA and overblown FLASH as
> tedious as I do, here is a link to the Text Only Version of JKR's
website.
>
> For reference, I have tried both the JAVA/FLASH version and the text
> version, and I still say the JAVA/FLASH version is tedious, slow,
> difficult, but, yes, very fancy; even cute.
>
> http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/welcome.cfm
>
> Just to add another teaser to the mix, JKR went to a MuggleNet Web
> Chat and had this to say...
>
> "Nobody was even remotely interested in my theories about what's
going
> to happen in book 7..."
>
> Sometimes I think we think we know too much.
>
> Just passing it along.
>
> bboy_mn

But you don't seem to get the 'hidden potterabilia' on the text only
version. On the flash version if you look hard enough sometimes you
find things.

Khilari.


98469

From:  MadameSSnape at aol.com
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  6:57 am
Subject:  Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Bad news continues for Slytherins


In a message dated 5/16/2004 8:48:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
willsonkmom at msn.com writes:
Potioncat:
Where did you find the bit about Theodore Nott? I don't see
anything about him.
=====================
Sherrie here:

It's one of the bits of information in Characters under Extra Stuff. I
want
to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????

Sherrie
(who is another year toward decrepitude today, and can't take
frustration!)
"Unless history lives in our present, it has no future."
PRESERVE OUR CIVIL WAR BATTLEFIELDS!


98470

From:  MadameSSnape at aol.com
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  7:06 am
Subject:  Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Bad news continues for Slytherins


In a message dated 5/16/2004 8:48:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
willsonkmom at msn.com writes:

Potioncat:
Where did you find the bit about Theodore Nott? I don't see
anything about him.
=====================
Sherrie here:

It's one of the bits of information in Characters under Extra Stuff. I
want
to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????

-------------------
CORRECTION:

It's under EDITS, not Characters.


98485

From:  "ladyramkin2000" <ladyramkin2000 at yahoo.co.uk>
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  8:16 am
Subject:  That bloody door!

Can I echo Sherrie's plea - how do you open that door in JKR's site.
It's driving me mad!!!

Sylvia


98491

From:  "snow15145" <snow15145 at yahoo.com>
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  10:04 am
Subject:  Re: That bloody door!


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ladyramkin2000"
<ladyramkin2000 at y...> wrote:
> Can I echo Sherrie's plea - how do you open that door in JKR's site.
> It's driving me mad!!!
>
> Sylvia

I quite agree with you, it's driving me crasy as well. I left my pc
on the page with the door and when I came back to it, there was a
message on the mirror beside the door that says Peeves woz ere! Maybe
we just have to let that page stay up for a while without touching
anything and it will give a clue to open the door.

98492

From:  squeakinby <squeakinby at tds.net>
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  11:11 am
Subject:  Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: That bloody door!


snow15145 wrote:

> I quite agree with you, it's driving me crasy as well. I left my pc
> on the page with the door and when I came back to it, there was a
> message on the mirror beside the door that says Peeves woz ere! Maybe
> we just have to let that page stay up for a while without touching
> anything and it will give a clue to open the door.

I did that with the desk and when I came back the phone was ringing. I
answered it and could detect voices but not what was said. Then I guess
I hung it up and couldn't make it work again. I can't figure out the
door or really the whole portkey thing with the awards which seemed far
less than it could have been so I figured I was missing the point.


98493
	

From: Kimberly <ekrbdg at msn.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:20am
Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
> I did that with the desk and when I came back the phone was ringing. I
> answered it and could detect voices but not what was said. Then I guess
> I hung it up and couldn't make it work again. I can't figure out the
> door or really the whole portkey thing with the awards which seemed far
> less than it could have been so I figured I was missing the point.
>
> Jem
>

I "think" I turned the radio on. Did anyone have music when they first
opened the site ? I didn't and then after playing around I did. Also,
as for the awards. I just got that to work. You have to click the
"Immeritus" and then the parchment opens. After you read it, go to the
two movable awards with the ? mark on it. Drag them into place (the boxes
next to them) and you'll receive another something for your scrapbook.

Kimberly
	
98494
	

From: Vinnia <vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:19am
Subject: Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
Snow-aka Kathy King wrote:

...it's driving me crasy as
> well. I left my pc
> on the page with the door and when I came back to
> it, there was a
> message on the mirror beside the door that says
> Peeves woz ere! Maybe
> we just have to let that page stay up for a while
> without touching
> anything and it will give a clue to open the door.
>
> Snow-aka Kathy King

Vinnia:
I bet JKR is laughing at us! I've been trying to open
that door for more than 3 hours, and had clicked
almost everything. I've even tried typing alohomora
while clicking the door handle!

How did Harry open the door in his dream?

Anyway, going to bed now...can hardly keep my eyes
open...


Vinnia

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com
	
98498
	

From: jdr0918 <jdr0918 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:37am
Subject: Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
<<<In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Vinnia wrote: ...I bet JKR is
laughing at us!>>>

The Sergeant Majorette says

I think the technical term is "sucker bet". That woman has a mean
streak.

At any rate, I believe that's where she plans to put Book VI clues.
She does say that the site is set up to encourage regular visitation.

As for the bells and whistles, try not to think of it as an
informational site. It's a video game.

--JDR

	
98503
	

From: scoutmom21113 <navarro198 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:28am
Subject: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
> Sherrie here:
>
> I want to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????

I suspect that is what we need to find the clues for. I've either
totally messed up or found 3 of the 4 clues, but where they've gone,
I haven't figured out yet.

Ravenclaw Bookworm

SPOILER


If you go to Extra Stuff and rub the eraser over the blank paper on
the bulletin board, you see 4 objects that are supposed to go
someplace. When I clicked on the feather (Fan Sites), potion bottle
(Links), and the leaves on the bulletin board, they disappeared. I
haven't found the bug yet, other than the spiders that crawl all
over the pages.
	
	
98506
	

From: Kimberly <ekrbdg at msn.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:40am
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
> > I want to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????
>
> I suspect that is what we need to find the clues for. I've either
> totally messed up or found 3 of the 4 clues, but where they've gone,
> I haven't figured out yet.
>
> Ravenclaw Bookworm


*Kimberly*
That's what I deduced as well. I imagine after all 4 are found, the ?
will become a link/portkey ! I'm thinking as to where they went that they
are just saved on your computer, just as the scrapbook items are and will
all appear when they're all found.

Kimberly
	
98507
	

From: scoutmom21113 <navarro198 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:46am
Subject: Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
squeakinby wrote:
> > I quite agree with you, it's driving me crasy as well. I left my pc
> > on the page with the door and when I came back to it, there was a
> > message on the mirror beside the door that says Peeves woz ere! Maybe
> > we just have to let that page stay up for a while without touching
> > anything and it will give a clue to open the door.
>
> Jem
> I did that with the desk and when I came back the phone was ringing. I
> answered it and could detect voices but not what was said. Then I guess
> I hung it up and couldn't make it work again. I can't figure out the
> door or really the whole portkey thing with the awards which seemed far
> less than it could have been so I figured I was missing the point.

It happened to me just before I read this post. The person on the
line says, "Hello? Hello? Who's there?"

The pen holder has been tipped over, so I think Peeves was on that
page also.

Also, the doorbell rings, the dog barks and the radio tunes in and
out. And what is it with the spiders, moths and flies on each page?
Like her books, are these clues or fun details?

Ravenclaw Bookworm
	
	
98509
	

From: scoutmom21113 <navarro198 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:52am
Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
> Kimberly
> I "think" I turned the radio on. Did anyone have music when they
first opened the site ? I didn't and then after playing around I did.

Click on the On/Off switch.

Ravenclaw Bookworm <who is obviously not the only one not getting
anything else done today!>
	
98510
	

From: <JessaDrow at aol.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 8:03am
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
I apologize but would someone mind please reposting the link? I missed it
somewhere along the way. Thanks in advanced, and sorry to be an annoyance.

Faith

In a message dated 5/16/2004 1:49:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ekrbdg at msn.com
writes:
> > I want to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????
>
> I suspect that is what we need to find the clues for. I've either
> totally messed up or found 3 of the 4 clues, but where they've gone,
> I haven't figured out yet.
>
> Ravenclaw Bookworm


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
	
98511
	

From: Kimberly <ekrbdg at msn.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:10pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
> I apologize but would someone mind please reposting the link? I
missed it
> somewhere along the way. Thanks in advanced, and sorry to be an
annoyance.
>
> Faith

Here ya go !
http://www.jkrowling.com/

Kimberly
	
98512
	

From: snow15145 <snow15145 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:09pm
Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "scoutmom21113"
<navarro198 at h...> wrote:
> > Kimberly
> > I "think" I turned the radio on. Did anyone have music when they
> first opened the site ? I didn't and then after playing around I did.
>
> Click on the On/Off switch.
>
> Ravenclaw Bookworm <who is obviously not the only one not getting
> anything else done today!>

You're right about not getting anything else done today...talk about
obsession! Fun but frustrating.

A few things that JKR said that were clues to this puzzle:
dont knock anything over 
watch out for peeves 
patience is a virtue

I knocked over the cup on the desk or I should say a wind came
through and you saw a bug like shape that must be peeves knock over
the cup. When this happened the hands on the watch began to move.
I guess this is where I should just sit and wait...patience is a
virtue

snow-aka Kathy King
	
98513
	

From: scoutmom21113 <navarro198 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:13pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, JessaDrow at a... wrote:
> I apologize but would someone mind please reposting the link? I
missed it
> somewhere along the way. Thanks in advanced, and sorry to be an
annoyance.
>
> Faith


There are two links that have been posted:

http://www.jkrowling.com/
http://www.jkrowling.co.uk/en/

The text only version is here:
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/welcome.cfm

Have fun!
Ravenclaw Bookworm
	


98515
	

From: Troels Forchhammer <t.forch at mail.dk>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: That bloody door!
  	  	
At 17:36 16-05-04 +0000, ladyramkin2000 wrote:
>Still stuck on thedoor (I'm beginning to think it is JKR's little
>joke) but what about the cauldron with the question mark? You use
>the rubber at the bottom of the page (sorry, eraser!!)

A Revealer, obviously ;-)
(it should have been bright red)

It's a clue for one of the rewards.
The spider is on the main page
The leaves are right there in that section
The Potion bottle is in the "Links" section (the book case)
The feather is in the "Fan Sites" section (the trophy case).

/Troels
	

98517
	

From: earendil_fr <viviane at lestic.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:53pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "scoutmom21113"
<navarro198 at h...> wrote:
> > Sherrie here:
> >
> > I want to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????
>
> I suspect that is what we need to find the clues for. I've either
> totally messed up or found 3 of the 4 clues, but where they've gone,
> I haven't figured out yet.
>
> Ravenclaw Bookworm
>
> If you go to Extra Stuff and rub the eraser over the blank paper on
> the bulletin board, you see 4 objects that are supposed to go
> someplace. When I clicked on the feather (Fan Sites), potion bottle
> (Links), and the leaves on the bulletin board, they disappeared. I
> haven't found the bug yet, other than the spiders that crawl all
> over the pages.

Earendil:
When I clicked on the spider on the main page while it was resting on
the Daily News, it disappeared and doesn't seem to come back... So
maybe it's the bug from the blank paper...

Earendil, off trying the other clues you suggested to see if it is...
	


98518
	

From: earendil_fr <viviane at lestic.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 1:04pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "earendil_fr" <viviane at l...>
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "scoutmom21113"
> <navarro198 at h...> wrote:
> > > Sherrie here:
> > >
> > > I want to know HOW DO YOU OPEN THAT BLOODY DOOR????
> >
> > I suspect that is what we need to find the clues for. I've either
> > totally messed up or found 3 of the 4 clues, but where they've gone,
> > I haven't figured out yet.
> >
> > Ravenclaw Bookworm
> >
> > If you go to Extra Stuff and rub the eraser over the blank paperon
> > the bulletin board, you see 4 objects that are supposed to go
> > someplace. When I clicked on the feather (Fan Sites), potion bottle
> > (Links), and the leaves on the bulletin board, they disappeared. I
> > haven't found the bug yet, other than the spiders that crawl all
> > over the pages.
>
> Earendil:
> When I clicked on the spider on the main page while it was resting on
> the Daily News, it disappeared and doesn't seem to come back... So
> maybe it's the bug from the blank paper...
>
> Earendil, off trying the other clues you suggested to see if it is...

Earendil (answering to her own post...)
The spider is the bug, and as someone said on another post, all four
clues give you access to a bonus page.

Now another bonus page that doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet.
It's on the links page (not the fan sites page). Click on the book
with a question mark and move it: behind is the key to the small
chest.

Earendil, who now has 4 pages in her textbook...
	
98520
	

From: maidne <maidne at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 1:49pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "earendil_fr" <viviane at l...>
wrote:

> Earendil (answering to her own post...)
> The spider is the bug, and as someone said on another post, all four
> clues give you access to a bonus page.
>
> Now another bonus page that doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet.
> It's on the links page (not the fan sites page). Click on the book
> with a question mark and move it: behind is the key to the small
> chest.
>
> Earendil, who now has 4 pages in her textbook...

Susan:
I have 4 pages, too. Has anyone found more? And I don't think the
door can be opened at this point, I think the site will be added to
periodically.


98522
	

From: squeakinby <squeakinby at tds.net>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 3:03pm
Subject: Open door in mirror
  	  	
Is that door always open or did I do that?

Jem
	
98523
	

From: earendil_fr <viviane at lestic.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:20pm
Subject: Re: Open door in mirror
  	  	
Jem wrote:
> Is that door always open or did I do that?

Earendil:
Yes, the door in the mirror is always open.
Makes the mirror more like a mirror of Erised...
	
98524
	

From: Inge <Elvishooked at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:31pm
Subject: Four Items in Scrapbook
  	  	
There is by now 4 items in my scrapbook,

1) "Very early page of Philosopher's Stone"
2) "Page of Doodlings"
3) "First typed manuscript of Philosopher's Stone"
4) "Ancient Drawings"

.... but - STILL not being able to open that dang door :-)

Inge & Mathias
	
98525
	

From: Kimberly <ekrbdg at msn.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:38pm
Subject: Re: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for
Slytherins
  	  	
> >
> > Earendil, who now has 4 pages in her textbook...
>
> Susan:
> I have 4 pages, too. Has anyone found more? And I don't think the
> door can be opened at this point, I think the site will be added to
> periodically.
>

4 pages here as well. I'm ever so certain the door is a link to
information regarding
Book 6 and will be opened when JKR is ready to open it.

Kimberly
	
	
Hmmmm.
	
98528
	

From: Troels Forchhammer <t.forch at mail.dk>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:55pm
Subject: JKR Web site: All is explained.
  	  	
This post contains serious spoilers for the <www.jkrowling.co.uk>
web site.

If you would rather explore it on your own, then do /not/ read
any further!

This section even contains links directly to the special rewards content:
It can also be disclosed that there are currently exactly four rewards.

Sections:
Each section is reached by using a 'Portkey'. Going back is done in
one of two ways. Either a Close" button will appear in the upper right
corner of the screen, or the Portkey that took you to the section will
appear somewhere on the page (usually the lower left corner). I have
noted only the sections with a close button - the rest use the Portkey.

Main page (the desk):
The spider for the 'potion' reward can be easily clicked while sitting
still on /The Daily News/. Click the switch in the upper left corner
to turn light on and off. Wait long enough and Peeves will come by
overturning the pen stand after which a bug of some kind will flutter
over the desk. Wait long enough and the phone will ring. Answering the
phone you will hear Rowling asking if there's anyone there. The
butterfly so far hasn't been reported to do anything, but be sure to
check it periodically.

"Links" section (the book case):
Portkey: The blue pen lying near the bottom left corner of the desk.
The Potions bottle for 'potion' reward. Wait long enough and Peeves
will come by blowing the candle out. Enjoy the titles on the spines of
the books, and the moving photographs at both sides of the book case.
The butterfly so far hasn't been reported to do anything, but be sure
to check it periodically.

"Fan Sites" section (the trophy case):
Portkey: The key in the middle of the desk. The feather for 'potion'
reward. Wait long enough for Peeves to come by, disturbing the ribbons
on the fan site award and removing a couple of Enjoy the names on the
various awards. The spider (so far) does nothing. Return later to see
if this has changed.

"?" section (the mysterious door)

Portkey: the elastic hair band next to the key at the upper left
corner of the note pad. Click the switch on the right-hand side of the
door to turn the light on and off. Wait long enough for Peeves to come
by, leaving a message on the mirror and overturning the plants.

If you discover how to open the door, be sure to shout it in every
corner of Harry Potter on-line fandom ;-)


"Extra Stuff" section (the notice board):
Portkey: The coffee cup on the right hand side of the desk. The leaves
for the 'potion' reward. Wait long enough for Peeves to come by,
blowing away a few notices. 

Enjoy the extra stuff - be sure to read it all ("Edits", "Characters"
and "Miscellaneous"). 

Click the on/off switch to turn the radio on and off.

"F.A.Q." section (envelopes)
Portkey: the paper clips between the notepad, the coffee cup, the
calendar and the keyboard. The feathers apparently don't do anything
(yet). Be sure to enjoy all the sections "About Me", "About the Books"
and "Other Stuff". Open a section by click the correspondingly stamped
letter. Inside the F.A.Q. (opened letters) Portkey: Any of the
envelopes in the F.A.Q. section. Close button. You can navigate the
sections by moving your mouse over the slip of paper projecting from
under the left hand letter. There you will also find the "F.A.Q. Poll,
where you can vote for questions - supposedly to be included in the
F.A.Q. 

"Wizard of the Month" section (calendar note)
Portkey: The calendar in the upper right corner of the desk. Close button.

"Rumours" section (magazine)
Portkey: "The Latest Rumours" magazine lying under "The Daily News".
Close Button. Rumours on the left hand side ("Gossip"), debunking on
the right hand side ("Exclusive") - be sure to read them all and
return periodically to find new. Enjoy the ads on the bottom of the
pages. 

"Biography" (diary)
Portkey: The diary lying under "The Latest Rumours". Close button.

The fly so far hasn't been reported to do anything, but be sure to
check it periodically. 

"News" section (newspaper)
Portkey: "The Daily News" newspaper lying in the lower left corner of
the desk. Close button. Enjoy the news.



Rewards:

"First typed manuscript of Philosopher's Stone" - the 'potion' reward.
<http://origin.jkrowling.com/scrapbook/archive/8_typed_halloween.htm>

"First typed manuscript of Philosopher's Stone - did it on
a manual typewriter and consequently had to re-type the
entire chapter every time I changed a paragraph. Then I
had to re-type the whole thing anyway, because it wasn't
double spaced."

1: Click the coffee cup to go to the "Extra Stuff" section - a notice
board.

2: Click and drag the blue & white thing looking like a rubber (it
should have been bright red as it is obviously a Revealer) and use it
to "rub" the blank piece of paper on the left-hand side of the board.
A drawing will appear indicating that four items should be used for a
reward (arrows pointing to a cauldron, I wonder if it's leaky?, marked
with a "?"). A feather, a Potions Bottle, a spider and a couple of leaves.

3: Click on the leaves near the upper left corner of the board. They
will disappear to 'go into the cauldron'.

4: Go to the main page (the desk) and click the spider - it is easiest
to do while it is sitting still on "The Daily News".

5: Go to the "Links" section (the book case) and click the Potions bottle.

6: Go to the "Fan Sites" section and click the feather.

It doesn't matter what sequence is followed or whether the drawing is
Revealed - collecting the four items will earn you the reward in any case.

"Ancient drawings (Page 4)"
<http://origin.jkrowling.com/scrapbook/archive/9d_drawing_group.htm>

"This very old drawing comes from "The Midnight Duel" chapter of
"Philosopher's Stone". As you can see, Dean originally joined Harry,
Ron, Hermione and Neville for the adventure. As you can see from the
written caption, Dean was called "Gary" in those days."

1: Click on the key to go to the "Fan Sites" section - a trophy case.

2: Click and drag the two medals maked with a "?" onto the two medal
cases on the middle shelf to receive the reward.

"Very early page of Philosopher's Stone"
<http://origin.jkrowling.com/scrapbook/archive/7_written_flamel.htm>

"Very early page of Philosopher's Stone written around 1991 and
showing plot-line that was abandoned. Would have changed everything!"

1: On the main page: Press the number to the Ministry of Magic on the
cell phone (6-2-4-4-2) and press the green button with the phone to
receive the reward.

"Page of Doodlings (Page 2)"
<http:/origin.jkrowling.com/scrapbook/archive/12b_drawing_sortinghat.htm>

"This is a page of doodlings from which the Sorting Hat emerged. In
the top part of the page are all the possible ways of 'sorting' people
I considered ... a panel of ghosts or prefects, a magical gateway
through which each person would have to pass and so on. I also though
of drawing names out of a hat, which became the sorting hat, and at
the bottom right corner you see my first drawing of the Sorting Hat,
with the first for lines of its first ever song."

1: Click the pen to go to the "Links" section - a book case.
2: Click and drag the book with a "?" on the spine to the left to
reveal a key.
3: Drag the key to the keyhole of the box on the right side of the
screen (next to the candle). A small bubble with a "?" appears out of
the box.
4: Click the bubble to get the reward.


And as a special bonus - how to open the door:

>Subject: To Open the Door
>From: Marrone <marrone at pipeline.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.harry-potter
>
> to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
>
>Then click on on that says my_room.
>It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
>pressing play. This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
>not distrube" sign on it. Right cklick and press play, the door will
>now open and you can see a book. Following below to get the book.
>
>To get to the book go to:
>http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
>and click on the link that says : my room book
>Keep pressing play

Enjoy!

/Troels
	
98529
	

From: snow15145 <snow15145 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:58pm
Subject: Re: Clues to the website WAS: Bad news continues for Slytherins
  	  	
I have gone into each room where you received a scrapbook page and
waited til peeves came:
The first room Extra Stuff, he moved a business card
The second room Fan Sites, he took the 1st prize ribbon
The third room Links, he blows the candle out
The fourth room, the damn door room, he writes on the mirror and
knocks over the vase of flowers
Then I went back to the main desk and when peeves came through, the
watch on the desk top glowed green for a second and turned into a red
and black compass looking thing and turned back into a watch before I
could try to open it. If it could be opened.

Snow- I will figure this out! I hope!
	
98530
	

From: Amanda Geist <editor at texas.net>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:59pm
Subject: Re: JKR Web site: All is explained.
  	  	
You missed something on the Fan sites page.

;P

~Amanda

	
98531
	

From: Troels Forchhammer <t.forch at mail.dk>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 3:19pm
Subject: Re: JKR Web site: All is explained.
  	  	
At 15:59 16-05-04 -0500, Amanda Geist wrote:
>You missed something on the Fan sites page.
>
>;P

I wouldn't be surprised at all ;-)

But pray tell?

(I have deliberately not gone into the main contents - i.e. the Fan
Site Award)

/Troels





From vmonte at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 22:25:06 2004
From: vmonte at yahoo.com (vmonte)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:25:06 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c882dc+jll0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c88po2+7jda@eGroups.com>

Troels posted on HPFGUs:

And as a special bonus - how to open the door:

Subject: To Open the Door
From: Marrone <marrone at p...>

Newsgroups: alt.fan.harry-potter
to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
Then click on on that says my_room.
It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
pressing play. This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
not distrube" sign on it. Right cklick and press play, the door will
now open and you can see a book. Following below to get the book.

To get to the book go to:
>http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
>and click on the link that says : my room book
>Keep pressing play

Enjoy!


vmonte:
The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in the log are 
gibberish.  Lorem ipsum...

see this website for what I mean:
http://www.lipsum.com/

vmonte

 





From mtmarrone at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 22:57:45 2004
From: mtmarrone at yahoo.com (mtmarrone)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:57:45 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c88po2+7jda@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c88rl9+fsdt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> Troels posted on HPFGUs:
> 
> And as a special bonus - how to open the door:
> 
> Subject: To Open the Door
> From: Marrone <marrone at p...>
> 
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.harry-potter
> to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> Then click on on that says my_room.
> It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
> pressing play. This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
> not distrube" sign on it. Right cklick and press play, the door will
> now open and you can see a book. Following below to get the book.
> 
> To get to the book go to:
> >http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> >and click on the link that says : my room book
> >Keep pressing play
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> vmonte:
> The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in the log are 
> gibberish.  Lorem ipsum...
> 
> see this website for what I mean:
> http://www.lipsum.com/
> 
> vmonte


I post this is my post, Troels pick up the first part, but it didn't
get posted.

Michael





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May 16 23:40:59 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:40:59 -0000
Subject: a DAILY RUMOR ad
Message-ID: <c88u6b+ioiu@eGroups.com>

One of the ads on the newspapers is for a Muggle-Deterring Gate:
<< One Touch of a Non-Magical Finger and our gate emits the
Muggle-repelling alaarm of your choice!
Choose between: ghastly wail of woe, sinister cackle of laughter or
eerie scream of pain!
This product is not Ministry of Magic approved. >>

Damn right it's not MoM approved! MoM must be a eager to prevent
Muggles from hating/fearing wizards as to prevent Muggles from knowing
that wizards exist! I don't want my neighbors associating me with
sinister, eerie, ghastly sounds! I'd prefer is one of the options were
sounds of enthusiastic sex, which a polite neighbor wouldn't want to
disturb.





From catlady at wicca.net  Mon May 17 00:19:15 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:19:15 -0000
Subject: From the Main Site: 98447-98528
In-Reply-To: <c88qag+iehq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c890e3+ehjm@eGroups.com>

98493
> From: Kimberly <ekrbdg at m...>
> Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:20am
> Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!

<< After you read it, go to the two movable awards with the ? mark on
it. Drag them into place (the boxes next to them) and you'll receive
another something for your scrapbook. >>

There's another box for an oval award (top shelf) and no award to put
in it. Btw, why are the first place as well as second place ribbons
red? This is important to me *hah!* because I've been thinking of a
Ravenclaw telling a Slytherin: "Everyone knows that blue ribbon is
first place, that's us. And red ribbon is second place, that's the
Gryffindors. And Hufflepuffs are yellow which is third place. Fourth
place is white, and green isn't until FIFTH place."

> 98509
> From: scoutmom21113 <navarro198 at h...>
> Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:52am
> Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!
>   	  	
<< Kimberly wrote:
<< << I "think" I turned the radio on. Did anyone have music when 
they first opened the site ? I didn't and then after playing around I
did. >> >> 

Click on the On/Off switch. >>

I got a feeling that the Radio is connected to JKR's statement in
Extra Stuff/Miscellaneous/Places to Write that "... very loud music
... is the only noise that disturbs me when I'm writing." 

> 98512
> From: snow15145 <snow15145 at y...>
> Date: Sun May 16, 2004 0:09pm
> Subject: Another Scrapbook item was Re: That bloody door!

<< A few things that JKR said that were clues to this puzzle:
dont knock anything over 
watch out for peeves 
patience is a virtue

I knocked over the cup on the desk or I should say a wind came through
and you saw a bug like shape that must be peeves knock over the cup.
When this happened the hands on the watch began to move. >>

PEEVES came through and knocked over the pen cup and cackled. Then
either the phone rings or the wrist watch turns briefly into
Dumbledore's 12=handled watch with planets around the circumference,
after which a Big Black Spider (the bug you mentioned) walks across
the desk. I am not agile enough to click on the Big Spider, so I don't
know if it is one of the Potion Ingredients. If it isn't, then I must
have collected the Main Page spider without even noticing!

> 98523
> From: earendil_fr <viviane at l...>
> Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:20pm
> Subject: Re: Open door in mirror

<< Yes, the door in the mirror is always open. Makes the mirror more
like a mirror of Erised... >>

But that's the door at the OTHER end of the hall.

> 98528
> From: Troels Forchhammer <t.forch at m...>
> Date: Sun May 16, 2004 2:55pm
> Subject: JKR Web site: All is explained.

<< "F.A.Q." section (envelopes) // Portkey: the paper clips between
the notepad, the coffee cup, the calendar and the keyboard. >>

The paper clips take the shape of "?" to make a Portkey to the FAQs
and the shape of "X" to make a Portkey to Close the FAQs. What is the
round thing amidst the paper clips?
 
 
<< "Wizard of the Month" section (calendar note) // Portkey: The
calendar in the upper right corner of the desk. Close button. >>

Felix Summersbee, 1447 - 1508, Inventor of Cheering Charms. Another
case of JKR writing wizards who seem to have the same shortness of
life span as Muggles (died at 61, and the same shortness of history:
in MY view of the wizarding world, there would be a lot more things
invented in 327 BC, not to mention 237 AD.




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 02:03:35 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:03:35 -0000
Subject: Laura Freeman's drawing
In-Reply-To: <c88510+b5ll@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c896hn+hg2g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" <naama2486 at y...> wrote:
> After a long search I think I've found the one JKR talked about:
> 
> http://www.nasubionna.net/hp/marauders/mwpp.html
> (I always liked the one she did with Arthur Weasley and Lucius 
> Malfoy)
> 
> (when you say you've found Peeves, do you mean when you hear 
> somebocy cackle and things get knocked over?)
> 
> Amanar

Thank you *so* much, Amanar!  But, that pic really surprised me, that
JKR liked it best of all the Marauder pics she'd seen...

Time to plug my favorite fanart site, Marta's.  Here's a link to the
Marauders picture I'd most like to put on a black T-shirt:

http://www.artdungeon.net/general/template.php?p=mwpp1

Mmmmmm...

Annemehr,
angelically not reading how to open the door -- yet





From elfundeb at comcast.net  Mon May 17 02:24:07 2004
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb2)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:24:07 -0000
Subject: what else we've learned
In-Reply-To: <c88oq1+tcb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c897o7+kvh0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:

> The bands whose tickets were scrapbooked on the Sean Harris page of
> her Bio were the Bay City Rollers and the Smiths. Does that show
> something about her musical tastes? 

The very thought made me cringe.  But then I decided those were her 
musical tastes when she was cavorting with Sean in his Ford Anglia.  
She's roughly the same age as my sister, whose tastes were once very 
similar.  She doesn't listen to the Bay City Rollers anymore and I 
doubt JKR does either.  At least I hope not!

Debbie
who's much too old to ever have listened to Bay City Rollers




From joym999 at aol.com  Mon May 17 02:36:15 2004
From: joym999 at aol.com (joywitch_m_curmudgeon)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:36:15 -0000
Subject: that big black bug
Message-ID: <c898ev+rlsl@eGroups.com>

I think that the big black bug-looking thing that flies across the 
main page of JKR's desk after Peeves knocks over the penholder is not 
a bug, but a doxy.  Just MHO, but it seems to fit the description.

--Joywitch




From theanimallover_11 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 02:40:53 2004
From: theanimallover_11 at yahoo.com (theanimallover_11)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 02:40:53 -0000
Subject: that big black bug
In-Reply-To: <c898ev+rlsl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c898nl+10ern@eGroups.com>

joywitch
> I think that the big black bug-looking thing that flies across the 
> main page of JKR's desk after Peeves knocks over the penholder is 
not 
> a bug, but a doxy.  Just MHO, but it seems to fit the description.
> 
> --Joywitch

animallover_11:
What is a Doxy?




From editor at texas.net  Mon May 17 03:34:44 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:34:44 -0500
Subject: Doxies, was Re: that big black bug
References: <c898nl+10ern@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003601c43bbf$e6069580$af59aacf@texas.net>

Joywitch, LOON that she is, said:

I think that the big black bug-looking thing that flies across the main page
of JKR's desk after Peeves knocks over the penholder is not a bug, but a
doxy.  Just MHO, but it seems to fit the description.

Animallover_11 asked

What is a Doxy?

And I, LOON that *I* am, answer:

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them states thusly:
    Doxy (sometimes known as Biting Fairy).... The Doxy is often mistaken
for a fairy though it is quite a separate species. Like the fairy, it has a
minute human form, though in the Doxy's case this is covered in thick black
hair and has an extra pair of arms and legs. The Doxy's wings are thick,
curved, and shiny, much like a beetle. Doxies are found throughout northern
Europe and America, preferring cold climates. They lay up to five hundred
eggs at a time and bury them. The eggs hatch in two to three weeks.
    Doxies have double rows of sharp, venomous teeth. An antidote should be
taken if bitten.

Harry encountered Doxies in the cleaning of the drawing room at 12 Grimmauld
Place; there was an infestation in the curtains. They used doxicide and
sprayed them as they flew out.

And a question, now--I recall that after they finished cleaning, there was a
bucket of doxies, but also a bowl of "their shiny black eggs." Fantastic
Beasts says, however, that they bury their eggs. Where would they have
buried them in Grimmauld Place? Under the carpet?

As for Joywitch's thought--we'll have to see if we can spot those extra arms
or legs, eh? I only saw it once but I think she may be right. I also note
that it's entirely appropriate for her to spot this and not me, since I live
in anything but a cold climate and do not have native doxies here, but her
cave probably has a native population, so that she's seen them in flight
many times...

~Amanda




From nkafkafi at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 04:34:55 2004
From: nkafkafi at yahoo.com (nkafkafi)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 04:34:55 -0000
Subject: that big black bug - coug and confirmed as a doxy!
In-Reply-To: <c898ev+rlsl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89fdf+k21e@eGroups.com>

> --Joywitch wrote:
> I think that the big black bug-looking thing that flies across the 
> main page of JKR's desk after Peeves knocks over the penholder is 
not 
> a bug, but a doxy.  Just MHO, but it seems to fit the description.


Neri notes:
You are correct. I managed to catch the little vermin, and it is 
definitely a doxy.

Directions to catch the doxy yourself: you have to wait patiently 
until it appears, then capture your screen by quickly pressing the 
PrtSc key (usually at the upper right of the keyboard). Then open MS 
paint or power point or any other graphic program and choose from the 
menu Edit -> Paste . This will paste the captured screen, and you 
will able to at examine the doxy at leisure. 

You will also notice that the watch on the desk becomes what looks 
like DD's watch, with 12 hands.

Happy hunting,
Neri





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 04:36:36 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:36:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Birthday Wishes x 4!
Message-ID: <20040517043636.32041.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>

*hangs the last streamer, surveys the overflowing food
tables and saunters off in search of cakes*

Two of these birthday greetings are late. Apologies to
Marianna and Iggy.

Since Friday we've had 4 birthdays, Marianna, Iggy
McSnurd, Scott and Minzzer. Birthday owls can be sent
care of this list or directly to Marianna at:
marugg at fibertel.com.ar
to Iggy at: CoyotesChild at charter.net
and to Minzzer at: minzzer at hotmail.com

I hope all your days were special and brought
everthing you wished for.

Happy Birthday, Marianna!
Happy Birthday, Iggy!
Happy Birthday, Scott!
Happy Birthday, Minzzer!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf 

=====
http://www.conventionalley.org/


______________________________________________________________________ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca



From bookraptor11 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 05:00:32 2004
From: bookraptor11 at yahoo.com (bookraptor11)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:00:32 -0000
Subject: The Flash verision of JKR's site! Screen Adjust
In-Reply-To: <c87bvt+m616@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89gtg+fd4g@eGroups.com>

I wrote:
> > ...edited...
> > 
> > Anyway, once I get on to the site I can't move around. My screen 
is 
> > only 15" and I'm missing the bottoms and sides of things,where 
I'm 
> > assuming the return to the desk is located, and the site doesn't 
> > accept my back button.
> > 
> > Donna
> 
> bboy_mn:
> 
> Donna, I'm assuming you are talking about the second window that 
opens
> up. That second screen does not open 'maximized'. In the top right
> corner of the window are three symobles. 'underline', 'square', and
> 'X', click on the 'square' to force the window to fit your screen 
and
> see if that helps. Alternately, in the top left corner of your 
browser
> is a small graphic symbol (a lower case blue 'e' for Internet
> Explorer), click on it and a menu will drop down, then select
> 'Maximize' from that menu.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> bboy_mn

Thanks for the help Steve. I finally solved the problem, your post 
helped me remember something that happened a few years ago on another 
site. I'm writing it down here in case it helps someone.

The first time I went on the site, I could tell I couldn't see 
everything and immediately clicked "maximize." For some reason, on 
JKR's site (as on that other site), maximizing doesn't increase the 
view.  Going back to the minimized screen after maximizing results in 
not being able to see everything no matter how much you move the bars 
up/down or back/forth. However, if I go into the site and stay with 
the smaller screen I *can* see everything by moving the bars. 

I've been playing in the site and having a great time, though my bug 
catching skills are non-existant!

Donna




From bcbgx6 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 05:39:38 2004
From: bcbgx6 at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:39:38 -0000
Subject: A New Kind of Authorship?
Message-ID: <c89j6q+8ipi@eGroups.com>

The JKR website has me thinking that we have on our hands a new kind 
of authorship.

Granted, there's nothing new about author-fan interaction, since fan 
mail has been around as long as mail itself, but surely we're in the 
midst of a new phenomenon.

Jo's website is proof that she is aware of lists such as HPFGU and 
that she wishes to give her own views on certain subjects.  In fact, 
I'm not convinced that she isn't an HPFGU member (though I won't 
mention my JKR!poster suspects).  

I'm a grad. student in English lit.  We spend hours (some of the 
needlessly) discussing things like authorial intent, interaction 
between author and history, etc.  I'm reasonably confident one could 
write a doctoral dissertation on the relationship between JKR and her 
fans, thanks to the Internet.

Case in point:  I wonder if Jo originally intended her books to be 
rife with red herrings?  She used the term "red herrings" in one of 
her interviews, and that got me thinking.  

Just a thought.

Brian 




From dicentra at xmission.com  Mon May 17 05:58:30 2004
From: dicentra at xmission.com (Dicentra spectabilis)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:58:30 -0000
Subject: From the Main List 98539-98567
Message-ID: <c89ka6+4tps@eGroups.com>

Hi!

A bit of a gray area, here.  This thread began by talking about the
door, then began to discuss the *content* of the site, i.e., the Lorem
Ipsum thingy.  But Lorem Ipsum isn't HP canon, so out it goes. :D

--Dicey Elf




98539

From:  "Mandy" <ExSlytherin at aol.com>
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  4:25 pm
Subject:  Re: JKR Web site: All is explained.

OK.
Followed your directions to open the door and it worked. Yeah!
Got the book. Yeah!
But it's in LATIN!!!! Ahhhh!

Mandy

	
98540
	

From: Nora Renka <nrenka at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 4:29pm
Subject: Re: JKR Web site: All is explained.
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Mandy" <ExSlytherin at a...>
wrote:
> OK.
> Followed your directions to open the door and it worked. Yeah!
> Got the book. Yeah!
> But it's in LATIN!!!! Ahhhh!

(Trying to keep this on topic)

And it's not even *good* Latin. I'm trying to read it, and I can get
out a few words, but unless it's something seriously mediaeval
transcribed authentically, a lot of the words are misspelled, and I
suspect the whole thing doesn't make sense--it's not grammatical,
either.

I'll keep looking at it some time later, but I suspect it's just
there as a kind of place holder. We could always form an HP4GU Latin
Consortium, though... :)

I doubt there are any serious clues in this. There's more than
enough to think about...Theodore Nott is very intriguing, now...

-Nora finishes her last two papers, one exam, then takes off for home
and then across the pond

98558

From:  "Amanda Geist" <editor at texas.net>
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  9:23 pm
Subject:  That's not Latin on the book, was JKR Web site: All is
explained.


Mandy:

> OK.
> Followed your directions to open the door and it worked. Yeah!
> Got the book. Yeah!
> But it's in LATIN!!!! Ahhhh!

For the record. It's not in Latin. What is on the book's pages is
standard "placeholder" text that is used when doing layout, before you
have any real text. As I recall, it's something like Lorum ipsat
something-or-other. It's a sentence or two, and then it repeats. Once
you see the "Lorum," you know what it is. It's not real text, in any
language.

~Amanda


98566
	

From: jdr0918 <jdr0918 at hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:53pm
Subject: Re: That's not Latin on the book, was JKR Web site: All is
explained.
  	  	
<<<In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" wrote: ...It's
not in Latin. What is on the book's pages is standard "placeholder"
text that is used when doing layout, before you have any real
text...>>>

The Sergeant Majorette says

Ah, the dreaded "Lorem ipsum..." Which bolsters my theory that what
you will eventually find behind the door is hints and clues to Book
VI, when they are available.

--JDR, remembering "O, Sybilli, si ergo fortibus es in ero. Nobili
demus trux: si vatis enim, causan dux."



	
98567
	

From: Shaun Hately <drednort at alphalink.com.au>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 10:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: That's not Latin on the book, was JKR Web site: All
is explained.
  	  	
On 17 May 2004 at 4:53, jdr0918 wrote:

> Ah, the dreaded "Lorem ipsum..." Which bolsters my theory that what
> you will eventually find behind the door is hints and clues to Book
> VI, when they are available.
>
> --JDR, remembering "O, Sybilli, si ergo fortibus es in ero. Nobili
> demus trux: si vatis enim, causan dux."

Ack!

I've mentioned previously on the list that I had the
(good)(mis)fortune to have some very Snapish teachers in my life -
very Snapish indeed.

One of them, a man who seemed to have nothing even resembling a
sense of humour and who took great delight in crushing the egos of
all concerned in the class asked us to translate *that* passage on
a Latin exam in Third Form. He thought it was so funny - I was
literally sweating at my stupidity in not having a clue what it
said (I knew some of the words, sure... but they didn't make
sense).


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia





From pmills1111 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 06:48:24 2004
From: pmills1111 at yahoo.com (pmills1111)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 06:48:24 -0000
Subject: Are there any hardcore Aussie HP fans here ?
Message-ID: <c89n7o+7n8c@eGroups.com>

I'm just wondering if there are any hardcore Australian HP fans here 
and if so, could any such people respond and please give links to 
what you (and other Aus HP fans) currently regard as the best and 
most active Aussie based HP fan group/s, along with their website 
address (if they have one) if possible.





From paulined at optushome.com.au  Mon May 17 07:27:09 2004
From: paulined at optushome.com.au (Pauline)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:27:09 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Are there any hardcore Aussie HP fans
  here ?
In-Reply-To: <c89n7o+7n8c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040517172302.02bf0ec0@mail>


>I'm just wondering if there are any hardcore Australian HP fans here
>and if so, could any such people respond and please give links to
>what you (and other Aus HP fans) currently regard as the best and
>most active Aussie based HP fan group/s, along with their website
>address (if they have one) if possible.

I am in Sydney and would love to talk to other HP fans.  The only group I 
know of is the HPFGU Australia group, which unfortunately is very quiet and 
hasn't had a post since October.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GU-Australia/?yguid=931558

Anyone else in Sydney?? I live in Bexley.



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From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Mon May 17 09:21:27 2004
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:21:27 +0400
Subject: An OT name question
Message-ID: <000a01c43bf0$832a6500$dd41983e@rcomputer>

I have a name question not concerning Potterverse, but this is the place to ask such questions, right? The thing is, I am,  and for the first time, I think, at loss how to pronounce the first name of the main character in a series that recently became one of my favorites. And it is a common name, too, but it seems to be pronounced in many ways, and I don't know which one is correct. I read this series in translation, but I think the pronunciation given in the translation is wrong, for many sites about names and my own limited knowledge of Gaelic (it's an Irish name), give another pronunciation. The name is Liam. Should it be pronounced LY-am or LEE-am? Would be glad of any help.
Maria.



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From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 06:23:55 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 06:23:55 -0000
Subject: On the JKR site...
Message-ID: <c89lpr+6fb3@eGroups.com>

Some objects glow, some dont. Whats up with that? I can't figure it 
out. If you click on them, hold the mouse button and move it away, 
they stay alight. So far i cant do anythin gbut make the 4 of them 
glow and turn off the light to look pretty. Any hints?

Jason





From arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com  Mon May 17 10:16:12 2004
From: arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com (arrowsmithbt)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:16:12 -0000
Subject: To open Door
In-Reply-To: <c88o6r+8f0h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8a3dc+ushi@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mtmarrone" <mtmarrone at y...> wrote:
> to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> Then click on on that says my_room.
> It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
> pressing play.  This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
> not distrube" sign on it.  Right cklick and press play, the door will
> now open and you can see a book.  Following below to get the book.
> 
> To get to the book go to:
> http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> and click on the link that says : my room book
> Keep pressin g play
> 
> Someone post this about the book:
> 
> Lorem ipsum is gibberish used in publishing to illustrate would text
> would go, if you had written it yet. In other words, the page is not
> completed yet, it will eventually open and you'll be able to read
> something there.

Congratulations.
However, I doubt this is the means of access intended by JKR. If it
is, I'm in trouble, because you can't 'right click' on an Apple mouse.
Ain't no 'play' either.
I suspect that you've found a back-door that may be only temporary,
lasting until the relevant clues have been set up.

Kneasy




From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Mon May 17 10:17:17 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:17:17 -0000
Subject: An OT name question
In-Reply-To: <000a01c43bf0$832a6500$dd41983e@rcomputer>
Message-ID: <c8a3fd+lol7@eGroups.com>

Maria Gromova:
>The thing is, I am,  and for the first time, I think, at loss how to 
>pronounce the first name of the main character in a series that 
>recently became one of my favorites. 

I thought you were going to say "Harry* for a moment there...

<snip>

>I think the pronunciation given in the translation is wrong, for 
>many sites about names and my own limited knowledge of Gaelic (it's 
>an Irish name), give another pronunciation. The name is Liam. Should 
it be pronounced LY-am or LEE-am? Would be glad of any help.

I would say LEE-am.
But where is there a Liam? Has he been subsituted for the even more 
problematical Seamus?

~Eloise




From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Mon May 17 10:59:15 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:59:15 -0000
Subject: More messages from Main: 98505; 98572
Message-ID: <c8a5u3+b84n@eGroups.com>

From:  "ladyramkin2000" <ladyramkin2000 at yahoo.co.uk> 
Date:  Sun May 16, 2004  6:36 pm
Subject:  Re: That bloody door!

 
 
Still stuck on thedoor (I'm beginning to think it is JKR's little
joke) but what about the cauldron with the question mark? You use
the rubber at the bottom of the page (sorry, eraser!!) and rub it
round the torn piece of paper and you get some ingredients forthe
cauldron and the cauldron itself. I've tried clicking on it but
nothing happens. Surely it's not another red herring.

Sylvia (three things in my scrapbook now, which took me all day. Is
it time I got a life?)

 ................................................................

From:  imamommy at sbcglobal.net 
Date:  Mon May 17, 2004  9:05 am
Subject:  Re: That y door!


 
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ladyramkin2000"
<ladyramkin2000 at y...> wrote:
> Still stuck on thedoor (I'm beginning to think it is JKR's little
> joke) but what about the cauldron with the question mark? You use
> the rubber at the bottom of the page (sorry, eraser!!) and rub it
> round the torn piece of paper and you get some ingredients forthe
> cauldron and the cauldron itself. I've tried clicking on it but
> nothing happens. Surely it's not another red herring.
>
> Sylvia (three things in my scrapbook now, which took me all day. Is
> it time I got a life?)

imamommy:

You have to collect the potion ingredients from around the sight:
feather, spider, potion vial, and green leaves. Just click on them
when you find them.


I think you maybe have to catch the fly that buzzes 'round to get the
door open, but I'm not quick enough yet.

 

 





From olivierfouquet2000 at yahoo.fr  Mon May 17 11:13:19 2004
From: olivierfouquet2000 at yahoo.fr (olivierfouquet2000)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:13:19 -0000
Subject: To open Door
In-Reply-To: <c8a3dc+ushi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8a6of+pnf0@eGroups.com>


> 
> Congratulations.
> However, I doubt this is the means of access intended by JKR. If it
> is, I'm in trouble, because you can't 'right click' on an Apple mouse.
> Ain't no 'play' either.
> I suspect that you've found a back-door that may be only temporary,
> lasting until the relevant clues have been set up.
> 
> Kneasy

I fully agree with you Kneasy, that it wasn't intended to be seen. In fact, I have the 
impression it has been corrected by now. However, if you want to try, alt+click is the 
equivalent of a right click for an Apple computer. 

And Lorem ipsum is an extract from "De Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", a text by Cicero. It 
starts by Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, 
adipisci velit, "Noone likes pain for its own sake, or looks for it, simply because it is pain" 
(take this translation with a bit of skepticism, I don't speak latin-nor english for that 
matter-that well). That said, the actual text used today uses the Renaissance spelling 
(which has the advantatges of including symbols absent in classical latin).

Olivier




From vmonte at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 11:16:22 2004
From: vmonte at yahoo.com (vmonte)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:16:22 -0000
Subject: More messages from Main: 98505; 98572
In-Reply-To: <c8a5u3+b84n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8a6u6+ds1i@eGroups.com>

imamommy:

You have to collect the potion ingredients from around the sight:
feather, spider, potion vial, and green leaves. Just click on them
when you find them.


I think you maybe have to catch the fly that buzzes 'round to get the
door open, but I'm not quick enough yet.


vmonte responds:


Catch the bug when it lands on the newspaper that is on JKR's desk.

vmonte





From lists at heidi8.com  Mon May 17 12:22:56 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:22:56 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A New Kind of Authorship?
Message-ID: <81.bf6247f.2dda08a0@aol.com>

This sort of interaction is something that authors like Neil Gaiman, Pamela Dean and Holly Black and our own peg Kerr, among others, have been enjoying for a year or more - Gaiman for about three, since his American Gods blog.

They answer questions, talk about things they're writing, preview other projects, etc. It's an amazing level of approachability and would, imho, make a good masters project in a year or two for someone who wants to combine literature with internet communities.

Heidi
Heidi8 on livejournal
On Mon, 17 May 2004 1:40am, Brian wrote:
>The JKR website has me thinking that we have on our hands a new kind
>of authorship.
>
>Granted, there's nothing new about author-fan interaction, since fan
>mail has been around as long as mail itself, but surely we're in the
>midst of a new phenomenon.
>
>Jo's website is proof that she is aware of lists such as HPFGU and
>that she wishes to give her own views on certain subjects.? In fact,
>I'm not convinced that she isn't an HPFGU member (though I won't
>mention my JKR!poster suspects).?
>
>I'm a grad. student in English lit.? We spend hours (some of the
>needlessly) discussing things like authorial intent, interaction
>between author and history, etc.? I'm reasonably confident one could
>write a doctoral dissertation on the relationship between JKR and her
>fans, thanks to the Internet.
>
>Case in point:? I wonder if Jo originally intended her books to be
>rife with red herrings?? She used the term "red herrings" in one of
>her interviews, and that got me thinking.?
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Brian
>
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From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Mon May 17 12:42:54 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:42:54 -0000
Subject: what else we've learned
In-Reply-To: <c88oq1+tcb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ac0e+o5j3@eGroups.com>

Rita:
> I foolishly didn't have the sound on yesterday, so I don't know 
what I
> missed while collecting four items in my scrap book. Of the four 
items
> on the clue, I still need a spider: I've clicked a zillion times on
> the spider on the Trophy Case without anything happening. I'm
> thinking, if I ever did find and catch the right spider, the pen
> dangling from the bulletin board would do something, as it is one of
> the images that slides in *after* the background.

Tcy:
On the main desk page, try keeping your mouse on the newspaper on the 
word "over" near the end of the 3rd line.  That's where the spider 
pauses before he runs off screen to the left near the phone.  That's 
where I was able to finally gather him for my potion.  

I have gathered all the items for the potion - but have no idea what 
to do now.  I can't find a cauldron to put them in and even if I did -
 I don't have any idea where the items are - perhaps in my robe 
pockets?

Tcy
who also can't seem to catch that butterfly (who's always been blue)




From aldhelm at earthlink.net  Mon May 17 13:05:06 2004
From: aldhelm at earthlink.net (carin_in_oh)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:05:06 -0000
Subject: the new site and my old eyes
Message-ID: <c8ada2+r8pv@eGroups.com>

Argh! Since we are all G.U.s and I bet many of us qualify as middle-aged, maybe 
others will sympathize and have a solution. The new JKR site is fabulous and 
engrossing, but the text size is so tiny that I have to hold my laptop about 8 inches 
from my face to read anything and I'm going cross-eyed! As far as I can tell, there's 
no way to increase the font size in Flash, is there? I tried reducing my display 
resolution and everything got fuzzier, but not enough bigger to make a real 
difference, and the desktop overlapped the edge of my screen. Help!

Carin




From ExSlytherin at aol.com  Mon May 17 13:38:01 2004
From: ExSlytherin at aol.com (Mandy)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:38:01 -0000
Subject: Gibberish or Latin? wasRe: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c88rl9+fsdt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8af7p+2kbv@eGroups.com>

> vmonte wrote:
> > The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in the log 
are  gibberish.  Lorem ipsum... > 
> see this website for what I mean:
> http://www.lipsum.com/


Mandy here:
Are you sure it's gibberish?  
It looks like Latin to me.
Mandy





From lists at heidi8.com  Mon May 17 14:30:48 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:30:48 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Are there any hardcore Aussie HP fans here ?
Message-ID: <9.2994529f.2dda2698@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/17/2004 2:53:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
pmills1111 at yahoo.com writes:
I'm just wondering if there are any hardcore Australian HP fans here 
and if so, could any such people respond and please give links to 
what you (and other Aus HP fans) currently regard as the best and 
most active Aussie based HP fan group/s, along with their website 
address (if they have one) if possible.
The Witching Hour (the 2005 HPEF event in Salem) is sponsoring line parties 
for PoA - you can get the email address of the coordinators in Melbourne and/or 
Sydney at http://www.witchinghour.org/getinvolved/preevents.html - and 
there's events in over fifty other cities around the world, too! It's going to be 
amazing!


Heidi 


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From arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com  Mon May 17 14:36:41 2004
From: arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com (arrowsmithbt)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:36:41 -0000
Subject: The pen..
Message-ID: <c8ailp+3tvd@eGroups.com>


The pen on the 'Other stuff' view on JKR's site 
seems to serve the same function as  the
flower vase and the pen holder - it moves
when Peeves zips past. A card for a taxi
company also flutters off the board.

I've got a feeling neither are significant.

Kneasy




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 15:39:53 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:39:53 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8ailp+3tvd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8amc9+5oj9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> 
> The pen on the 'Other stuff' view on JKR's site 
> seems to serve the same function as  the
> flower vase and the pen holder - it moves
> when Peeves zips past. A card for a taxi
> company also flutters off the board.
> 
> I've got a feeling neither are significant.
> 
> Kneasy

I think you're right -- especially because I noticed that that pen is
static: it is not one of the things (such as the blank half sheet of
paper) that plops down into the picture as you portkey over there.  It
certainly *looks* tempting, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if it
gained a function later.

Now, my other things:

This morning I visited the site on my laptop, because my regular
computer monitor is quite dark (it's old), and I knew I was missing
details.  While I did get a much better view, I also found out a few
little things:

Well, I could have figured this out anyway, but when you enter the
site on a fresh computer, you start over (no cookies, obviously).  So,
I guess that means if you use a library or cafe computer, you might
find the scrapbook already full.

On my desktop computer, I could never see the bottom of my scrapbook
pages, because even with the window dragged all the way up, quite a
lot of the bottom was still cut off (if I knew more about my computer,
maybe I could have fixed that).  But on my laptop, those windows fit!
 Hurray!  I finally got to see the Sorting Hat!

As long as I was starting over fresh, I went to the Links page and
tried to drag one of the awards into the box on the top shelf.  It was
a no go, they always just flew back to their original spots.  I assume
that box will come into play later.

I was bad, and I voted again, this time for a different one!

Annemehr
who did eventually read the "How to open the door" thread and was
pleased to see it was only a back door and nothing's really in it yet...
and who wishes JKR had given a hint on how often she might update...
<pessimistically imagines once or twice a year or so...>





From monica.coyne at tesco.net  Mon May 17 14:19:25 2004
From: monica.coyne at tesco.net (Monica Coyne)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:19:25 -0000
Subject: An OT name question
In-Reply-To: <c8a3fd+lol7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ahld+moju@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "eloise_herisson" 
<eloiseherisson at a...> wrote:
> Maria Gromova:
> >The thing is, I am,  and for the first time, I think, at loss how 
to 
> >pronounce the first name of the main character in a series that 
> >recently became one of my favorites. 
> 
> I thought you were going to say "Harry* for a moment there...
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >I think the pronunciation given in the translation is wrong, for 
> >many sites about names and my own limited knowledge of Gaelic 
(it's 
> >an Irish name), give another pronunciation. The name is Liam. 
Should 
> it be pronounced LY-am or LEE-am? Would be glad of any help.
> 
> I would say LEE-am.
> But where is there a Liam? Has he been subsituted for the even 
more 
> problematical Seamus?
> 
> ~Eloise
It is lee-am.  It's Gaelic for William





From erinellii at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 16:03:36 2004
From: erinellii at yahoo.com (Erin)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:03:36 -0000
Subject: OT: Death Eater Sims
Message-ID: <c8anoo+i6fv@eGroups.com>

I seem to recall from a few months ago that some of you here play the 
most awesome computer game in the world, The Sims.  

Well, check out this download site I found, called Death Eater Sims.  
Even if you don't have Harry Potter in your sims game, it's worth a 
look and a chuckle.  Me, I just can't get over the name.  Death Eater 
Sims:

http://www.geocities.com/deatheatersims/index.html




From foxmoth at qnet.com  Mon May 17 17:01:19 2004
From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:19 -0000
Subject: Gibberish or Latin? wasRe: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c8af7p+2kbv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ar4v+q0ll@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Mandy" 
<ExSlytherin at a...> wrote:
> > vmonte wrote:
> > > The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in 
the log 
> are  gibberish.  Lorem ipsum... > 
> > see this website for what I mean:
> > http://www.lipsum.com/
> 
> 
> Mandy here:
> Are you sure it's gibberish?  
> It looks like Latin to me.

If you follow vmonte's link, you'll find out that 'lorem ipsum...'  
taken from the writings of Cicero, is the standard text used by 
graphic artists to simulate the look of real text so that they can 
design a page before the actual text  is available. Lorem ipsum 
has been used for this purpose  for hundreds of years, so my 
guess is  any correspondence between Cicero's work and JKR's 
is purely coincidental.

Pippin
who once worked in graphic design




From foxmoth at qnet.com  Mon May 17 17:09:35 2004
From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:09:35 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8amc9+5oj9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8arkf+3u31@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" 
<annemehr at y...> wrote:

> Annemehr
> who did eventually read the "How to open the door" thread and 
was pleased to see it was only a back door and nothing's really 
in it yet...and who wishes JKR had given a hint on how often she 
might update...<pessimistically imagines once or twice a year or 
so...>

*cough*wizard of the month*cough --patience is the key

Pippin





From fakeplastikcynic at hotmail.com  Mon May 17 22:26:33 2004
From: fakeplastikcynic at hotmail.com (Lady Martha)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:26:33 -0000
Subject: what else we've learned
In-Reply-To: <c88oq1+tcb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8be6p+2hme@eGroups.com>

Catlady:
> 
> The bands whose tickets were scrapbooked on the Sean Harris page of
> her Bio were the Bay City Rollers and the Smiths. Does that show
> something about her musical tastes? 

Martha:

Can't for the life of me remember where I read it, but I know JK was 
a Smiths fan - I believe she cried when they split. Also, she liked 
the Clash.

Those are two of my favourite bands, incidentally. :-D




From hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 23:56:22 2004
From: hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com (hpfgu_list_elves)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:56:22 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: Call for Elves
Message-ID: <c8bjf7+4oma@eGroups.com>

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From dicentra at xmission.com  Tue May 18 00:15:21 2004
From: dicentra at xmission.com (Dicentra spectabilis)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 00:15:21 -0000
Subject: From the Main List  98577, 98579
Message-ID: <c8bkip+s49d@eGroups.com>

98577
	

From: theadimail <theadimail at yahoo.co.in>
Date: Mon May 17, 2004 6:27am
Subject: The phone and other matters
  	  	
hi,

The Lexicon says that the phone is on the JKR's site is also
important. I for one could not work out how it is. Can anyone help?
And I am also very angry at JKR. It is not enough that she should
tease us with her books, she is doing it with this site too. I mean
her saying that there are clues about Book Six in the site. Has
anyone found them?

Bye
Adi


98579
	

From: meriaugust <meriaugust at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon May 17, 2004 7:23am
Subject: Re: The phone and other matters
  	  	
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "theadimail" <theadimail at y...>
wrote:
> hi,
>
> The Lexicon says that the phone is on the JKR's site is also
> important. I for one could not work out how it is. Can anyone help?
> And I am also very angry at JKR. It is not enough that she should
> tease us with her books, she is doing it with this site too. I mean
> her saying that there are clues about Book Six in the site. Has
> anyone found them?
> Bye
> Adi

That one's easy. Remember how to get into the Ministry of Magic?
Meri







From arielock at aol.com  Tue May 18 00:11:16 2004
From: arielock at aol.com (arielock2001)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 00:11:16 -0000
Subject: JKR's web page - June 2563?
Message-ID: <c8bkb4+fevc@eGroups.com>

HI,
  On the main page, does the date on the "latest rumours" paper 
say "19th, June, 2563?"  Does this date mean anything to 
anyone, or am I just completely thick?

Arianna






From illyana at mindspring.com  Tue May 18 00:26:25 2004
From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:26:25 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: To open Door
In-Reply-To: <c8a3dc+ushi@eGroups.com>
References: <c8a3dc+ushi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <FF051159-A861-11D8-80B7-000A95CE326E@mindspring.com>


On May 17, 2004, at 3:16 AM, arrowsmithbt wrote:
>
> Congratulations.
> However, I doubt this is the means of access intended by JKR. If it
> is, I'm in trouble, because you can't 'right click' on an Apple mouse.
> Ain't no 'play' either.

If you're using an Apple, ctrl+click is the equivalent of 
right-clicking. You'll see "play" on the menu that pops up when you 
ctrl+click.

illyana





From nakedkali at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 02:24:11 2004
From: nakedkali at yahoo.com (Sea Change)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 02:24:11 -0000
Subject: Brit Speak:  Difference between Fireman and Soldier?
In-Reply-To: <c8202b+b0p8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8bs4b+5e0a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley"
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> > 
> > > Found this in a list of Kid's jokes at CBBC Newsround-
> > > 
> > > Q: What is the difference between a fireman and a soldier?
> > > 
> > > A: You can't dip a fireman in your egg.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, but I don't get it.
> > > 
> > > How or why CAN you dip a soldier in your egg?
> > > 
> > > It's got to be a British thing.
> 
> Shaun:
> 
> > 'Soldiers' refers to buttered toast cut into strips - and quite 
> > commonly used to dip into a boiled egg.
> 
> Phew!  Well thought of, Shaun!  For a moment there I thought the 
> Americans had rumbled our top-secret projects, to miniaturise the 
> Armed Forces, and to create giant genetically modified eggs, for 
> aiming at the faces of enemy politicians.
> 
> David


Sea Change replies:

Or, perhaps Brits are never so lucky to have a fireman stay around for
breakfast.  Dipping them in egg might be entertaining.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 03:07:32 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:07:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Megan!
Message-ID: <20040518030732.27958.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>

*sneaks in quietly with a very large cake and sets it
in the centre of a tastefully decorated party room*

I know it's getting late, but I also know you guys are
up for a party anytime!

Today's birthday honouree is Megan (Rhiannon333).
Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or
directly to Megan at rhiannon333 at hotmail.com

I hope your day has been fun and filled with
everything magical.

Happy Birthday, Megan!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

=====
http://www.conventionalley.org/


______________________________________________________________________ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca



From thekrenz at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 02:59:57 2004
From: thekrenz at yahoo.com (thekrenz)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 02:59:57 -0000
Subject: JKR web page  question
Message-ID: <c8bu7d+trao@eGroups.com>

I have been looking at the numerous tea stains and the tea leaves in 
the cup.  Does is striek anyone else that they have a cresent moon 
shape?  Also on the page with the door, the moon out the window is a 
cresent shape also.  I wonder if this could be some kind of clue for 
us.  
Anyone?

Cyndi





From mcschnoor at comcast.net  Tue May 18 02:41:34 2004
From: mcschnoor at comcast.net (mcschnoor)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 02:41:34 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c88rl9+fsdt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8bt4u+uije@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mtmarrone" <mtmarrone at y...>
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> > Troels posted on HPFGUs:
> > 
> > And as a special bonus - how to open the door:
> > 
> > Subject: To Open the Door
> > From: Marrone <marrone at p...>
> > 
> > Newsgroups: alt.fan.harry-potter
> > to get the door open go here: http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> > Then click on on that says my_room.
> > It should go to a page that won't finish loading. Right click and keep
> > pressing play. This will take you to the door, now without the "Do
> > not distrube" sign on it. Right cklick and press play, the door will
> > now open and you can see a book. Following below to get the book.
> > 
> > To get to the book go to:
> > >http://www.jkrowling.com/flash/
> > >and click on the link that says : my room book
> > >Keep pressing play
> > 
> > Enjoy!
> > 
> > 
> > vmonte:
> > The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in the log are 
> > gibberish.  Lorem ipsum...
> > 
> > see this website for what I mean:
> > http://www.lipsum.com/
> > 
> > vmonte

I can't load the above link. Is there any other way to get to that?





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 03:47:22 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:47:22 -0000
Subject: Laura Freeman's drawing
In-Reply-To: <c896hn+hg2g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8c10a+hj7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" <naama2486 at y...> wrote:
> > After a long search I think I've found the one JKR talked about:
> > 
> > http://www.nasubionna.net/hp/marauders/mwpp.html
> > (I always liked the one she did with Arthur Weasley and Lucius 
> > Malfoy)
> > 
> > (when you say you've found Peeves, do you mean when you hear 
> > somebocy cackle and things get knocked over?)
> > 
> > Amanar
> 
> Thank you *so* much, Amanar!  But, that pic really surprised me, that
> JKR liked it best of all the Marauder pics she'd seen...
> 
> Time to plug my favorite fanart site, Marta's.  Here's a link to the
> Marauders picture I'd most like to put on a black T-shirt:
> 
> http://www.artdungeon.net/general/template.php?p=mwpp1
> 
imamommy:

It surprises me too, but I found another great one by the same artist:
http://www.nasubionna.net/hp/marauders/cursingsnape.html
I really like this one a lot.




From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Tue May 18 08:06:38 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:06:38 -0000
Subject: JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <c8arkf+3u31@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8cg6e+bnfh@eGroups.com>

Pippin wrote:

> *cough*wizard of the month*cough --patience is the key

LOL! - I won't get that one, I'm afraid.  I haven't even seen 
evidence of Peeves yet, as I'm a classic Internet user: if it 
doesn't appear in 15 seconds it's not worth waiting for.

Arianna wrote:

> On the main page, does the date on the "latest rumours" paper
> say "19th, June, 2563?" Does this date mean anything to
> anyone, or am I just completely thick?

A clue! A clue! It's the publication date of Book 6 -- patience is 
the key!

Also, am I right in thinking that nobody has yet legitimately opened 
that door you get from the hairband?  The hack-in solution involving 
the /flash url doesn't work for me.

And the fans site*s* part seems only to mention one site 
(Immeritus) - is that correct?

Finally, it seems (from people's comments) that no significant part 
of the site requires you to have sound on your computer - is that 
right?  I can't turn it on here.

One or two people - hi, Catlady - have mentioned misperceiving (but 
is it misperception?  Isn't the Webmaster so Dead?) items on the 
pages.  My own was to think the phone is a calculator - I mean, if a 
device sits on a desk with a keypad and a small screen it must be a 
calculator, mustn't it?  I clicked at random on it a couple of times 
and when it didn't link me anywhere I thought 'Oh dear, maths' and 
left it at that.  And I thought the hairband was a Magician's Nephew 
style ring: it certainly looks like that for the return journey.

David, who feels that website designers haven't yet grasped the need 
for a 'work-only' version - like text-only but made to look like a 
legitimate MS Office document




From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 18 08:24:03 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:03 +0100
Subject: Are the Mugglenet chats archived?
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A806A2@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

JKR tells us that:

"[In] MuggleNet's chat room [...] Nobody was remotely interested in my
theories about what's going to happen in book seven [...] and [so I]
joined in the discussion about SpongeBob SquarePants"

http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/news_view.cfm?id=63
http://tinyurl.com/2n5la

So, is there anyone here from Mugglenet? Do you/they archive chats? How
easy is it to do a search in the archives for SpongeBob, and to publish
the chat including the few hours before. It's too tantalizing to know
that JKR's own words teasing us with her "theories" about what's going
to happen in book seven could be on a server somewhere.

Cheers,

Dumbledad



From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 18 08:39:49 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:39:49 +0100
Subject: You are the quarry (was Re: what else we've learned)
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A806B4@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi Charming Men (& Women),
 
 <Martha >Can't for the life of me remember where I read it, but I know
JK was a Smiths fan - I believe she cried when they split. Also, she
liked the Clash. Those are two of my favourite bands, incidentally. :-D
</Martha >
 
There was a review of Morrissey's new album "You are the Quarry" on
"Saturday Review" on BBC Radio 4, which I heard on Saturday on my drive
home from an Accio 2005 committee meeting. It sounded really good, a
real return to form. Until the next programme you can hear the review
online (if you have Real's player installed) at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/ram/saturdayreview.ram
http://tinyurl.com/2kak9 The review starts at 18:33, though they play a
good clip right at the beginning.
 
Cheers,
 
Dumbledad.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From lists at heidi8.com  Tue May 18 09:43:33 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 05:43:33 EDT
Subject: I am the answer and the air ;)
Message-ID: <d7.ad929ad.2ddb34c5@aol.com>

On desert island discs back in November of 2000, she picked "Bigmouth Strikes Again" as one of her favourite songs, and said that after the Beatles, the smiths were her favourite band.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/00/11/06/2155243.shtml

Heidi, who thinks this discussion is also hidden away back in that month on the Main List, as OTC didn't exist until January of 2001.



On Tue, 18 May 2004 4:40am, Tim Regan \(Intl Vendor\) wrote:
>Hi Charming Men (& Women),
>
>Can't for the life of me remember where I read it, but I know
>JK was a Smiths fan - I believe she cried when they split. Also, she
>liked the Clash. Those are two of my favourite bands, incidentally. :-D
>
>There was a review of Morrissey's new album "You are the Quarry" on
>"Saturday Review" on BBC Radio 4, which I heard on Saturday on my drive
>home from an Accio 2005 committee meeting. It sounded really good, a
>real return to form. Until the next programme you can hear the review
>online (if you have Real's player installed) at
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/ram/saturdayreview.ram
>http://tinyurl.com/2kak9 The review starts at 18:33, though they play a
>good clip right at the beginning.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dumbledad.
>
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From vmonte at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 13:12:57 2004
From: vmonte at yahoo.com (vmonte)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:12:57 -0000
Subject: Please help me open the door...
In-Reply-To: <c8bt4u+uije@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8d24p+ja02@eGroups.com>

I "vmonte" wrote:
The door opens (supposedly) to a log book.  The words in the log are 
gibberish.  Lorem ipsum... see this website for what I mean:
http://www.lipsum.com/


Someone asked: I can't load the above link. Is there any other way to 
get to that?

vmonte again:
I pasted this from the website --

"Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, 
consectetur, adipisci velit..."
"There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants 
to have it, simply because it is pain..."

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting 
industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text 
ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type 
and scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not 
only five centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, 
remaining essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with 
the release of Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and 
more recently with desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker 
including versions of Lorem Ipsum.  

vmonte




From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Tue May 18 18:34:55 2004
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:34:55 +0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: An OT name question
References: <c8a3fd+lol7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c43d06$d1faf700$ec41983e@rcomputer>

Eloise wrote:
> I would say LEE-am.
> But where is there a Liam? Has he been subsituted for the even more
> problematical Seamus?
>
Thank you. From your answer and other answers I guess it's really lee-am. I
thought so, but I was confused, for it sounds ly-am in translation. And I'm
sorry if I confused you - I thought it was clear from my message that this
Liam is THE main character in an altogether different, but also excellent,
fantasy series. He is like a more experienced and learned Harry, by the
way - a humble, decent, daredevil, intelligent, well-travelled  and
scholarly, orphaned young man - Quaestor Liam Rhenford from the Liam
Rhenford and Fanuilh series. He is exactly twice as old as Harry of OotP,
and his mission is more modest than that of Harry's, but he also fights
evil, as an able investigator. I think he would be a Gryffindor. He lost his
father and manor in a petty war,  then travelled the world, was a scribe,  a
soldier,  a surgeon,  a cartographer and  a shipmaster, and then inherited
the house and the familiar of his friend, old wizard Tarquin Tanaquil, of
the town of Southwark. His newly-acquired familiar, a small, intelligent
dragon Fanuilh, asked Liam to find Tarquin's murderer. Liam began to
investigate, and earned great esteem from the local  head of the
constabulary, Aedile Coeccias.  With the help of Fanuilh Liam solved the
case and settled down in Tarquin's house near the town of Southwark. Of
course, after such an evenful life, he would be bored if he had nothing to
do, and he, aided by his familiar, continued to help Coeccias to uncover
criminals, gaining the title of Queastor, or investigator.
Maria.





From abigailnus at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 21:47:54 2004
From: abigailnus at yahoo.com (abigailnus)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:47:54 -0000
Subject: Oh, Dear Sweet God
Message-ID: <c8e0aa+92mr@eGroups.com>

Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.  

There's an article on Slate plotting the similarities between Harry 
Potter and the Left Behind series.  The author concludes that the 
two series are very much alike because they share such 
distinguishing characteristics as - wait for it! - the struggle 
between good and evil.  Because we've never read a story about 
that before.  

In the end, he does try to differentiate between the two, saying that 

"In that sense, despite their similarities, at their hearts the two series 
are different in a fundamental but not obvious way. Left Behind is 
fatalistic; Harry Potter sees outcome determined by individual actions. 
Both provide a roadmap for how to live a good life, but in one case 
the key is morality, and in the other it is faith."

Which just means that he had a point to make and decided to use not 
one but two pop culture juggernauts to help him make it.

I swear, there are days when I really wish these books weren't as 
popular as they are.

You can read the whole ridiculous thing here:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2100637/

Abigail




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 21:51:21 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:51:21 -0000
Subject: The phone on JKR's desk
Message-ID: <c8e0gp+c46t@eGroups.com>

Has anyone kept JKR's website open long enough to have the phone ring?
 Sometimes it rings and when you answer nothing happens, but
occasionally it rings and you see arrows move across the screen, and
if you hit the talk button, a female voice (JKR?) says, "Hello. Hello!
is anyone there?"  I can't figure out what to do next, or if there is
anything to do.  (And yes, I already got the Ministry phone code
thingie worked out.)

imamommy




From ogirouar at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 22:00:56 2004
From: ogirouar at yahoo.com (ogirouar)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:00:56 -0000
Subject: The Feather
Message-ID: <c8e12o+chse@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know how to get the feather that is needed for the potion 
on JKR's website? Also does anyone know where the cauldron is?  I 
can't get the door open and I am assuming you need these things to 
get it open?  If I am wrong let me know.  





From annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk  Tue May 18 18:50:52 2004
From: annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk (annelilucas)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:50:52 -0000
Subject: The Learning Curve WAS Re: I am the answer and the air ;)
In-Reply-To: <d7.ad929ad.2ddb34c5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8dluc+o5lk@eGroups.com>

Heidi wrote:
> On desert island discs back in November of 2000, she picked "Bigmouth 
> Strikes Again" as one of her favourite songs, and said that after the 
> Beatles, the smiths were her favourite band

Anneli now:

Speaking of radio programmes -  was it mentioned that JK was interviewed 
on  The Learning Curve (programme about education) in March?  If not, 
it's available to listen to on the Radio 4 website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/learningcurve_20040316.shtml

I don't know how long it is as several other people are also interviewed 
on the programme, so it's probably only a few minutes.  (Sorry if it's 
been mentioned already - I wasn't keeping up with postings in March.)


THE LEARNING CURVE
16?March?2004
SINGLE PARENTING and EDUCATION

Libby Purves discusses single parents and education with the author J K 
Rowling whose own fairy tale story of rags-to-riches lone parenthood is 
almost as well known as her famous creation, Harry Potter.

J K Rowling arrived in Scotland as a single parent with no income of any 
sort.? While her poverty and the writing of The Philosopher's Stone in 
cafes have become the stuff of legend, it is a less known fact that at the 
same time she was borrowing money from her friends to complete a teacher training degree, and teaching French in schools. 






From kathryn-jones at comcast.net  Tue May 18 22:54:05 2004
From: kathryn-jones at comcast.net (jmjklj)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:54:05 -0000
Subject: The Feather
In-Reply-To: <c8e12o+chse@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8e46d+uhhc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "ogirouar" <ogirouar at y...> 
wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get the feather that is needed for the 
potion 
> on JKR's website? Also does anyone know where the cauldron is?  I 
> can't get the door open and I am assuming you need these things to 
> get it open?  If I am wrong let me know.

I can't remember which page has the feather, but it's one that has a 
portkey and whisks you away rather than a book on the desk.

You don't need the cauldron.  Once you have all four items, you get 
another item for your scrapbook.

Has anyone figured out the light/power switch next to the phone?  It 
appears to be for an unseen lamp.  I turned it on, thinking it would 
help "her" write.  I also keep turning off the music!

Also, has anyone noticed that in the mystery room, when you are 
there in the day the window is day, and at night it's night?  Pretty 
cool!

Cheers.

-Kathryn





From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 23:13:44 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:13:44 -0000
Subject: Oh, Dear Sweet God
In-Reply-To: <c8e0aa+92mr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8e5b8+mdlf@eGroups.com>


  I think I'll stick with Harry Potter.  But the "Left Behind" series 
do seem to come out a lot faster;-)!

  Brian:-) 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "abigailnus" 
<abigailnus at y...> wrote:
> Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.  
> 
> There's an article on Slate plotting the similarities between Harry 
> Potter and the Left Behind series.  The author concludes that the 
> two series are very much alike because they share such 
> distinguishing characteristics as - wait for it! - the struggle 
> between good and evil.  Because we've never read a story about 
> that before.  
> 
> In the end, he does try to differentiate between the two, saying 
that 
> 
> "In that sense, despite their similarities, at their hearts the two 
series 
> are different in a fundamental but not obvious way. Left Behind is 
> fatalistic; Harry Potter sees outcome determined by individual 
actions. 
> Both provide a roadmap for how to live a good life, but in one case 
> the key is morality, and in the other it is faith."
> 
> Which just means that he had a point to make and decided to use not 
> one but two pop culture juggernauts to help him make it.
> 
> I swear, there are days when I really wish these books weren't as 
> popular as they are.
> 
> You can read the whole ridiculous thing here:
> http://slate.msn.com/id/2100637/
> 
> Abigail




From csalgado at rcn.com  Tue May 18 23:42:40 2004
From: csalgado at rcn.com (oldone7777)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:42:40 -0000
Subject: JKR web page  question
In-Reply-To: <c8bu7d+trao@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8e71g+o204@eGroups.com>

JKR Has a web page???

Please put up a link to it. I looked for it here within these 
messages, and on Google. No luck. 

Thank you
oldone




From lists at heidi8.com  Tue May 18 23:54:01 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (lists at heidi8.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:54:01 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR web page  question
Message-ID: <11b.3219fb97.2ddbfc19@aol.com>

It's brand new, so it probably hasn't propogated into google yet.

It's http://www.jkrowling.com or, if you're in the uk, http://www.jkrowling.co.uk.


Heidi
Http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums 

On Tue, 18 May 2004 7:43pm, oldone7777 wrote:
>JKR Has a web page???
>
>Please put up a link to it. I looked for it here within these
>messages, and on Google. No luck.
>
>Thank you
>oldone
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From joym999 at aol.com  Wed May 19 00:07:05 2004
From: joym999 at aol.com (joywitch_m_curmudgeon)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:07:05 -0000
Subject: The L.O.O.N.  Official Guide to www.jkrowling.com
Message-ID: <c8e8f9+951m@eGroups.com>

***The League of Obsessed Nitpickers (L.O.O.N.)  Official Guide to 
www.jkrowling.com***

[Note: This guide lists the features of JKR's website.  It does not 
give hints or solutions to the puzzles contained on the website, nor 
does it list or discuss the new information about the HP series that 
JKR has given us.]

>MAIN PAGE

The main page is JKR's desk.  On it are several portkeys which take 
you to other parts of her office, several other items which can be 
opened and read, and a few other things.  The portkeys and the 
readable items all make a tinkling sound when you pass the cursor 
over them.  When you click on a portkey, it will transport you to 
another part of JKR's office (each one is detailed below).  

The portkeys make a nice swooshing sound.  There are background 
sounds (which you can hear anywhere in the office) of a barking dog 
(who always barks when a portkey is being used), and what sounds like 
occasional cars passing by and honking horns, and maybe a doorbell.  
Each part of JKR's office has a resident bug which flies away when 
you move the cursor over it, and lots of spider webs.

If you hang around long enough, you will hear a windy sound which 
indicates that Peeves is visiting the section of the office you are 
in.  On the Main Page, Peeves will knock over the pen holder, the 
watch will turn to a wizard's watch, and a doxy will fly across the 
desk.

PORTKEYS
*Coffee Cup ? takes you to EXTRA STUFF (bulletin board)
*Pen ? takes you to LINKS (bookshelf)
*Key ? takes you to FAN SITES (shelf with trophies)
*Hairband ? takes you to a screen with no name (door with Do Not 
Disturb sign)

READABLE ITEMS
(The readable items make various paper and book-related noises when 
you open and close them.)
*Newspaper ? opens to the News section
*Tabloid ? opens to the Rumors section.  This section includes 
advertisements for various wizard businesses: The Quibbler (Fudge 
Forced to Flee!), a Celestine Warbeck concert (no muggles allowed, 
alas), Borgin & Burkes, an Muggle-Deterring Gate, and Magi-Me-More
*Scrapbook ? when you solve a puzzle, the goodie you receive stays 
here
*Index File ? flips over to Wizard of the Month.  Click on this for 
details.
*FAQs ? clicking on the paperclips makes the paper clips form a 
question mark with a metallic sound, and several envelopes and 
feathers appear on the desk.  Click on any envelope to get the FAQs.  
Note that although there are 3 envelopes, the FAQs actually include 4 
sections.
*Calendar ? gives you JKR's biography.  Lots of cool pictures, 
including one where JKR's eyes blink

OTHER THINGS
*Cell phone ? You can click on the keys and make numbers appear with 
cell phone noises.  Sometimes it will ring and JKR will say hello to 
you.
*Butterfly ? sometimes blue, sometimes yellow
*Spider
*Light Switch (computer monitor switch?) ? turns the light on and off
*Notepad with welcome message
*Watch ? keeps the actual time on your computer's clock
*Miscellaneous items ? JKR's wedding photo, floppy diskettes, lots of 
gum wrappers, keyboard, papers with scribblings

>EXTRA STUFF
Clicking on the coffee (tea?) cup on the right side of the screen 
brings you to JKR's bulletin board..  The coffee cup will land with a 
clunk to the left of the bulletin board when you first arrive.  Click 
on that cup to get back to the Main Page.  The resident bug is a fly.

The bulletin board has lots of interesting items on it, including a 
piece of paper which lists the Extra Stuff items (Edits, Characters, 
and Miscellaneous), a lot of business cards (mostly for car services, 
but one for her agent, Christopher Little), a picture of JKR's 
husband, a seemingly blank piece of paper, a shopping list, a picture 
of a dog, a classified ad from the Manchester Evening News for a 
volume of Wizards Spells, a drawing of an owl, a drawing that looks 
like it might be the Hogwart's crest, a note to call Fiddy (JKR's 
assistant) before tea, some leaves, and several papers with 
scribblings (one about the various houses of Hogwarts).

There is also a pen on a string, what looks like an eraser (rubber), 
and radio which you can turn on and off.  If you turn the radio on, 
you can hear it everywhere in the office.  Eventually, someone will 
come along and turn it off.  After a while, you will hear someone 
cough and then turn it on again.

When Peeves comes by, the pen on the string swings, the tack holding 
the STREET CARS card come out and the card falls down.

>LINKS
Clicking on the pen in the lower right brings you to JKR's 
bookshelf.  The pen will land with a clunk to the in the cup when you 
first arrive.  Click on that pen to get back to the Main Page.  The 
resident bug is a butterfly.

There are two shelves of books, and you can see little bits of two 
more shelves.  Some of the books open to tell you about various 
things associated with the HP books or JKR's other interests.  The 
linking books are: Christopher Little Literary Agency, Press and 
Publishers, the Warners Brothers Harry Potter Web Site (the only link 
which actually takes you to another website), One Parent Families, 
the MS Society of Scotland, and a list of all of JKR's publishers.  
There is also a book with a question mark on it, several books of 
Wizard Spells and other magical topics, two books by Roddy Doyle (The 
Commitments and The Van), World Mythology, three books of Fairy Tales 
(one by E. Nesbit), Children's Stories, Short Stories, two Dorothy 
Sayers books, The Little White Horse (JKR's favorite book as a 
child), I Capture the Castle, three Jane Austen books (Sense and 
Sensibility, Emma, and Pride and Prejudice), the Writers and Artists 
Yearbook, Manx Mouse by Paul Gallico (sp?), Katherine Mansfield and 
Grimble by Clement Freud.

There are also some pictures (note that the birds are flying), an 
inkwell, a locked box, a candle, and a bookmark.

When Peeves comes by, the bookmark flutters and the candle goes out.

>FAN SITES
Clicking on the gold key in the middle of the desk you to JKR's 
trophy shelf.  A parchment will fall on the right and the key will 
fall on the left (each with a slight thud) and hang from the shelf 
when you first arrive.  Click on that key to get back to the Main 
Page.  The resident bug is a spider.

There a two shelves (and part of a third) of trophies and several 
parchments.  Pulling the tassle which says "ABOUT" in the upper left 
reveals a parchment which tells you about the fan sites award.  
Clicking on the Latest Winner trophy opens the parchment, which tells 
you about the fan site which is the current winner.

There are first and second place ribbons, two oval medals with 
question marks, three empty oval boxes, a non-working (at the moment) 
archive trophy, a feather, a trophies for Bellatrix Black (Villainess 
of the Year?), Harry Potter (well, someone whose name starts with HA, 
anyway), Lily Evans, Percy Weasley (Most Pompous?), Sirius Black, 
Frank Longbottom, and two each for James Potter and Tom Riddle.

When Peeves comes by, the ribbons flutter and the first place ribbon 
falls off the shelf.

>?
Clicking on the hairband next to the key brings you to a mysterious 
part of the office identified only with a question mark.  The 
hairband lands with a slight thud on the table on the left, next to a 
vase with some daffodils in it.  

There is a window on the left with either a day or night scene 
(depending on the time on your computer's clock?) and some wind 
chimes.  You can see clouds roll by, the wind chimes blow, birds 
flying during the day and shooting stars at night.  There is an oval 
mirror on the right, in which you can see two closed doors, and open 
doorway, and a burning candle.  In the middle is a large door with a 
Do Not Disturb sign.  If you move the cursor over the door handle, it 
moves up and down.  There's also a light switch which you can use to 
turn the lights on and off.

When Peeves comes by, he writes on the mirror and knocks over the 
vase.

--Joywitch M. Curmudgeon, Founder and Chief LOON-a-tic




From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Wed May 19 02:23:11 2004
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (mstattersall)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 02:23:11 -0000
Subject: JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <c8cg6e+bnfh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8egeg+nv63@eGroups.com>

> > On the main page, does the date on the "latest rumours" paper
> > say "19th, June, 2563?" Does this date mean anything to
> > anyone, or am I just completely thick?
> 
> A clue! A clue! It's the publication date of Book 6 -- patience is 
> the key!
> David

Here's a theory--maybe it's the date THIS year when the official 
announcement of publication will occur. I base this guess on the fact 
that OotP was released on 21 June last year, which was a Saturday, 
and 19 June is also a Saturday. The significance of 2563 escapes, 
though--is the WW calendar zero-dated differently from the muggle 
one, like the Chinese and Jewish calendars are from the Western one? 
If someone could work out when is the WW equivalent of BC/AD, we 
could be onto something.

On the other hand, it could just be one of JKR's famous red herrings.

MsTattersall,
who'll never get back the time
spent trying to open that &@$% door







From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 03:02:27 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 03:02:27 -0000
Subject: Crescent moons
Message-ID: <c8eio3+jf5l@eGroups.com>

I noticed the crecent moons on the jkrowling site and decided to 
count them. So far i've found 7. Can anyone think of what they could 
be pointing at... if anything at all?

Perhaps a clue to the title of book 6? Harry Potter and the Crescent 
moon? Any theories? Anyone? Anyone?

Jason




From stanleys at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 19 04:41:52 2004
From: stanleys at sbcglobal.net (suehpfan)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 04:41:52 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8arkf+3u31@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8eoig+6t80@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" 
> <annemehr at y...> wrote:
> 
> > Annemehr
> > who did eventually read the "How to open the door" thread and 
> was pleased to see it was only a back door and nothing's really 
> in it yet...and who wishes JKR had given a hint on how often she 
> might update...<pessimistically imagines once or twice a year or 
> so...>
> 
> *cough*wizard of the month*cough --patience is the key
> 
> Pippin

Okay, Pippin.  You are a better person than I if you got anything 
from our cheering charm creator.  I have stared at that characature 
for hours and though some very interesting things have happened 
behind him (the watch, the phone, that very large bug), I cannot for 
the life of me click on anything that will do anything else.  If you 
have one, I could use another cough, hint, cough!

BTW... does anyone have any more than four things in their scrapbook?

Thank you graciously for any help.

Sue (hpfan) who is horribly annoyed at her own computer disabilities!




From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 05:48:50 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 05:48:50 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8eoig+6t80@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8esg2+nmsu@eGroups.com>



>
> > *cough*wizard of the month*cough --patience is the key
> > 
> > Pippin
> 
> Okay, Pippin.  You are a better person than I if you got anything 
> from our cheering charm creator.  


Jason here...
   I could be mistaken but I think that hint refers to the site 
being updated atleast once a month when they put up the new Wizard 
of the month.



> 
> BTW... does anyone have any more than four things in their 
scrapbook?
> 

Jason again: I just have 4 things also. I'm assuming we've all got 
the same four.
>




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed May 19 08:00:25 2004
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:00:25 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <c8egeg+nv63@eGroups.com>
References: <c8cg6e+bnfh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <40ABA0B9.18612.157DF4@localhost>

On 19 May 2004 at 2:23, mstattersall wrote:

> Here's a theory--maybe it's the date THIS year when the official 
> announcement of publication will occur. I base this guess on the fact 
> that OotP was released on 21 June last year, which was a Saturday, 
> and 19 June is also a Saturday. The significance of 2563 escapes, 
> though--is the WW calendar zero-dated differently from the muggle 
> one, like the Chinese and Jewish calendars are from the Western one? 
> If someone could work out when is the WW equivalent of BC/AD, we 
> could be onto something.

Well, the problem is I think we know the Wizarding World uses BC 
and AD - AD is used for Nearly Headless Nick's death date IIRC, and 
I think BC is on Ollivander's sign (this second bit could be movie 
contamination I suppose).

If this is 2563 in the Wizarding Calendar, year 1 in the Wizarding 
calendar would be 558BC. Searching for that date, I find it is the 
start of the Persian empire (some sources say 559BC).

It's also a possible date for the birth of Zarathustra/Zoroaster 
(630BC seems to be the normal date, but one source I saw says it 
could have been as late as 558BC - other say the date could be 
anywhere in a 1000 year period). I suppose that might be a date 
with some relevance to the Wizarding world - Zoroaster is often 
called the Magus, and he was the founder of the Magi - probably 
best known in the west in their incarnation as the 'Three Wise Men' 
in the story of Christ's Nativity.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From mphunt at sprintmail.com  Wed May 19 13:47:52 2004
From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:47:52 -0000
Subject: JKR web page  question
In-Reply-To: <c8e71g+o204@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8foi8+lqsq@eGroups.com>

oldone:

> JKR Has a web page???
> 
> Please put up a link to it. I looked for it here within these 
> messages, and on Google. No luck. 
> 
> Thank you
> oldone

This is the link that works the best for me:
http://www.jkrowling.co.uk/en/

Tcy




From csalgado at rcn.com  Wed May 19 17:17:11 2004
From: csalgado at rcn.com (oldone7777)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:17:11 -0000
Subject: Thank You-JRK Site
Message-ID: <c8g4qn+shbm@eGroups.com>

Thank you everyone who sent me the link.

spoilers



I could not find the feather need to complete the...potion? I'm not 
sure where the cauldron is. Do you acully dump the mess in it?
Did I see an illustration of a cauldron in one of the books? I'll 
have to check it out later.

The hand written page is interesting. She says it would have changed 
the story. The problem is, I can't read it!!! It's chicken scratch!!!
How sad! I'll try translating it when I've had a good rest. Can 
anyone out there acually read it?

oldone




From entropymail at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 18:00:50 2004
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:00:50 -0000
Subject: Chicken Scratch Transcribed (was:Re: Thank You-JRK Site)
In-Reply-To: <c8g4qn+shbm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8g7ci+7khb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "oldone7777" <csalgado at r...>
wrote: <snip>
> 
> The hand written page is interesting. She says it would have changed 
> the story. The problem is, I can't read it!!! It's chicken scratch!!!
> How sad! I'll try translating it when I've had a good rest. Can 
> anyone out there acually read it?

I spent a few minutes transcribing the page. Not sure I've got each
word correct, but I think you'll be able to get the gist of it. Enjoy!




So this Flamel bloke found the stone -- said Ron.
"No -- made it," said Harry. "He was an alchemist which means"
"Someone who burns base metals into gold, said Hermione. She had that
old proving I-know-more-than-everyone-else look on her face, the other
two noticed, "Of course. I read about him in 'Alchemy, Ancient Art and
Science' by Argo Pyrites --"
"I missed that one myself," muttered Ron.
"--of course, it's some of the most difficult magic you can do. And
you can end up not just with pure gold, but also with a funny stone
lump --"
"Which is what I'm on about," said Harry, "The Philosophy Stone, yes.
And it works too. It kept Nicholas Flamel and his wife alive for about
five hundred years."
"What?"
"I know," said Harry. "But it's true. He was spotted at the open in
Paris in 1762  and he was born back in 13 something."
Ron whistled.
"But he's dead now?" he asked.
"Of course," said Harry. Someone stole his stone so he couldn't make
any more Elixir of Life, could he? It takes a while to make another
stone and by that time, I suppose, he was just too old to live without
his Elixir until a new stone was ready.  And now I'll tell you
something else really weird that i haven't told you up to now -- the
stone was found in my parents' safe at Gringott's Bank."
But instead of the interested noises Harry had expected, Ron and
Hermione simply stared at him.
"What?" said Harry.
Ron cleared his throat, opened his mouth to speak but shut it again.
"What?" Harry said.
"Well, Harry," said Hermione. "I mean..."
"You mean what?"
He stared at them both as they shuffled their feet and tried not to
look him in the eye.
"You don't think," he said suddenly and angrily, "That my parents
stone the stone?"
"Um..." said Ron.
"Look," said Harry furiously, "That's like saying they murdered Flamel..."
"Oh, Harry, we never thought..."
"Not much you didn't," said Harry. "I don't know how it got in there,
but the stone wasn't put there by them..."
 Ron quickly. "I'm sure you're right."





From reginadibastoni at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 20:22:39 2004
From: reginadibastoni at yahoo.com (hebridean_black_dragn)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:22:39 -0000
Subject: HPEF Announces 2006 Event!
Message-ID: <c8gfmf+89ag@eGroups.com>

Lumos 2006: HPEF Announces a Harry Potter Symposium coming to Las 
Vegas in 2006!

Las Vegas, NV ? With a whirl of the wand and a hearty chant 
of "Lumos," HP Education Fanon, Inc. (HPEF) is proud to shed first 
light on its next event!

>From July 27-30, 2006, Las Vegas, Nevada ? the muggle's "City of 
Lights" ? will play host to Lumos 2006: A Harry Potter Symposium. 
Utilizing a theme of "Back to School", a variety of academic 
presentations and panels is planned, including special workshops for 
educators and librarians. In addition to its scholarly daytime 
programming, an assortment of evening activities, including Water 
Quidditch, Magical Night Classes, and Live Chess will be available 
to symposium attendees. 

This event will mark the third such offering to be sponsored by 
HPEF, a non-profit educational (501(c)3) organization. Other events 
include Nimbus - 2003, which took place in July 2003 in Orlando, 
Florida, and The Witching Hour, which is scheduled for October 2005 
in Salem, Massachusetts.

"Lumos 2006 will offer a fun, educational atmosphere that's 
exclusively Harry Potter," says Debbie McLain, the event's Minister 
of Magic. "From British food all weekend long, to Butterbeer in the 
hotel's Irish pub, attendees will be completely immersed in J.K. 
Rowling's unique, magical universe."

In keeping with the theme, conference planners intend to decorate 
the host hotel to give it a "Hogwarts" feel. There will be house 
tables in the Great Hall, a Common Room for all four houses 
exhibiting school spirit with their house banners, and a library in 
the Art Gallery to browse the latest books about Harry. A diverse 
and enthusiastic team of Harry Potter aficionados has worked 
tirelessly to author the winning bid. Anyone one wishing to join in 
the planning process, or to volunteer at the event itself, may 
register at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vegasroomofrequirement/. 

For additional information as it is released, please visit Lumos 
2006: A Harry Potter Symposium's upcoming website at 
http://www.lumos2006.org/. 

Lumos 2006 is an unofficial event, and is not endorsed by Warner 
Bros., the Harry Potter book publishers or J.K. Rowling and her 
representatives.

Contact for Lumos 2006: 
Jamie Rubin, Muggle Relations 
rubyjamie at yahoo.com 

Contact for HPEF:
Leeanna Izuel, Secretary
Leeanna.Izuel at lls.edu





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 22:23:06 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:23:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Michelle and Fiona!
Message-ID: <20040519222306.99959.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>

*wanders into the party room balancing a birthday cake
in each hand, ducking to avoid some rather low hanging
streamers*

We have a nice party going, so step in and grab a
plate of food.

Today's birthday honourees are Michelle and Fiona.
Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or
directly to Michelle at:
michelleapostolides at yahoo.co.uk and Fiona at:
fionap19 at yahoo.co.uk

I hope both of you have had special days, filled with
magic and the company of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Michelle!
Happy Birthday, Fiona!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 00:18:08 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:18:08 -0000
Subject: JKR's site and significance of 2563
In-Reply-To: <40ABA0B9.18612.157DF4@localhost>
Message-ID: <c8gtg0+sd1e@eGroups.com>

 mstattersall wrote:
 Here's a theory--maybe it's the date THIS year when the official 
 announcement of publication will occur. I base this guess on the 
fact 
 that OotP was released on 21 June last year, which was a Saturday, 
 and 19 June is also a Saturday. The significance of 2563 escapes, 
> > though--

SNIP

Jason here:

I doubt this is anything more than a coincidence but, June 19th 2004 
is about 2576 days after June 20th 1997. When was Philosophers stone 
first published? Late June 97, right? Possibly 2563 days before 
6/19/04?




From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 05:38:20 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 05:38:20 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
Message-ID: <c8hg8c+gj5d@eGroups.com>

I know this has nothing to do with HP, but I needed support...

I've failed my first driving test about an hour ago. And I got the 
worst tester I could possibly get: Posidon. I swear, he's a 
Voldemort made Muggle.

Anyway, the tears won't stop coming, and I know I'm being silly, 
most people don't pass their first test but I got *so* disappointed. 
*sniff*

Help!

-- A very sad and tearful Amanar




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 20 05:49:42 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:49:42 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!
References: <c8hg8c+gj5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009301c43e2e$4075dba0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Amanar wrote:

<Anyway, the tears won't stop coming, and I
know I'm being silly,
most people don't pass their first test but I
got *so* disappointed. >

Well I probably shouldn't mention this in
public...but I never passed my driver's test.
It was a fluke of the computer that gave it
to me (after five tries) so I completly
understand.  But I'm sure you'll get it in
time, and without computer glitches.

 That way you also probably won't have
stories such as trying to put a drive-in
window in the side of the public library (the
only thing that saved me was realizing I
would have to pay for them to erect another
hideous statue and turning the wheel sharply
to avoid it) nor nearly taking out a light
post while taking a corner.

Saitaina
Who drives perfectly well now
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From nethilia at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 06:00:00 2004
From: nethilia at yahoo.com (Nethilia)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: To all my mailing lists--I'm back!
In-Reply-To: <1084977420.579.64648.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040520060000.42888.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com>

To my mailing lists/communities: I'm sending the same
mail to all of you to say I'm back watching, replying,
and reading. I haven't been posting on my lists,
working on sites, talking about my collections, or
writing fanfiction due to a heavy semester at college.
The last one is always the hardest. Well, now that's
all over and I'm a graduate of Texas A&M University
with a BA in English! Go me! ^.^ 

(I did one big e-mail cause I would have just
copy-pasted the same thing to everyone.)

--Neth

=====
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Grown-ups divide into two kinds of people: those who wish they were still 
six, and those who wish they were still sixteen.


	
		
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From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 07:00:09 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 07:00:09 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <009301c43e2e$4075dba0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c8hl1p+3ol8@eGroups.com>

I wrote: the title of this thread (please don't make me repeat it)

Saitaina replied:

> Well I probably shouldn't mention this in
> public...but I never passed my driver's test.
> It was a fluke of the computer that gave it
> to me (after five tries) so I completly
> understand.  But I'm sure you'll get it in
> time, and without computer glitches.

<snip>

> Saitaina
> Who drives perfectly well now

Thank you so much! I'm a bit more relaxed now :)
I'm one to believe everything happens for a reason, so fluke or no 
fluke - you still deserved your license. And I'm really grateful you 
would risk this going public to make me feel better (hope this 
doesn't sound arrogant).


> "No, one day I'm going to look back on all
> this and plow face-first into a tree because
> I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
> still be having a better day than I am
> today."

I identify with this completely. Only I wouldn't plow, I'd crash (so 
let's hope it doesn't happen on my second test).

-- Amanar




From minmari at hotmail.com  Thu May 20 10:08:00 2004
From: minmari at hotmail.com (minmari at hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:08:00 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <c8hl1p+3ol8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8i020+u0os@eGroups.com>

This is my first post here.  How funny that it isn't even anything HP 
related.  :)  

I just wanted to be yet another person to chime in and say I too 
didn't pass my first driving test.  I too had the most hideous of all 
hideous Muggles as my tester.  Perhaps it was the same tester?  ;)  

I was flunked, and I am not making this up, because I made a right 
turn while there were people in the crosswalk.  Okay, I understand 
that it isn't good to be turning in front of pedestrians.  Believe 
me, I do.  However, the street I was turning onto was SEVEN lanes 
wide.  Three going one way, three going the other, and one 
center "suicide" lane.  There was one person in the crosswalk who was 
in the lane furthest from me, and he was headed to the opposite side 
of the street.

When my tester told me this, I sat there gaping.  I believe the only 
thing I could say was "Are you kidding?"  This horrible person 
actually responded back, "What would have happened if that pedestrian 
had suddenly turned around or jumped in front of you?"  From 60 yards 
away??  (BTW: the pedestrian was an ancient looking man who was 
walking with a cane.)

When I went back to take the test again (the next day), all they had 
me do was make right turns in a residential area.  Yes, I drove in 
circles for about 20 minutes.  The tester (thankfully someone new) 
was mystified because the report said I had trouble making right 
turns.  Sigh.

Everyone I know failed their first test.  Don't feel bad.

Mindy





From ekrbdg at msn.com  Thu May 20 10:33:15 2004
From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 06:33:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!
References: <c8hg8c+gj5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00f701c43e55$dd752240$31d6f943@hppav>

A very sad and tearful Amanar:
> I know this has nothing to do with HP, but I needed support...
>
> I've failed my first driving test about an hour ago. And I got the
> worst tester I could possibly get: Posidon. I swear, he's a
> Voldemort made Muggle.
>
> Anyway, the tears won't stop coming, and I know I'm being silly,
> most people don't pass their first test but I got *so* disappointed.
> *sniff*
>
> Help!


Oh I'm so sorry !!!    I know how important these things are.    My oldest
son is
going this morning for his  driver's license test.    It's all he's talked
about for about a year now.     Hopefully you can take it again soon ?

((((HUGS))))








From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Thu May 20 11:25:05 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 6:25:05 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!
Message-ID: <20040520112505.YDEN6671.out003.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>

**Stupid online verizon ate the original post I'm repsonding to...:P**

I'm sorry to hear about that, Naama *hands over a butterbeer and gives a hug**

I actually passed my first driving test, but that was only because my own Muggle was a nice woman who could see I was nervous as hell while I was in the car with her (yes, I had a completely Nervous Neville reaction--accidentally turned on the window wipers and everything--and to think, I had driven *to* the station to take my test with no problems...:P...).

Anyway, I would not have passed, except that after my third right turn at a stop sign, she looked at me and said "You know that you're doing 'California Stops', don't you?"

Needless to say, I gave her a blank look. The deal was that I was looking at the intersections long before I got to them. In the foothills of Tucson, a lot of street crossroads and the half mile up to them are easy to see since so many of the stop signs and crossroads are at the bottom of the hills... So by the time I would get to the signs, I already knew nothing was coming. So I would slow down, *almost* stop completely...and then keep going...lol

Fortunately for me, the lady let me get away with it, especially when I rectified it the next few intersections...needless to say, now I stop at every intersection and count to four before I go anywhere, even if I know nothing is coming...lol

And to think--I was afraid of the parallell parking part!

Anyhow, hang in there, Naama--I know that next time you go you'll ace the thing. ;)

HUGS
Silverthorne/Anne


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From hypercolor99 at hotmail.com  Thu May 20 13:00:27 2004
From: hypercolor99 at hotmail.com (alice_loves_cats)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:00:27 -0000
Subject: Please spoil my fun!
Message-ID: <c8ia5b+b139@eGroups.com>

I've spent a lot of time on JKR's website, and have discovered 
various things, but definitely less than some of you. 

I want my fun spoilt. Please, please tell me everything you know in a 
private e-mail! (alice_loves_cats at yahoo.com)

With thanks: Alice




From rhiannon333 at hotmail.com  Thu May 20 13:07:11 2004
From: rhiannon333 at hotmail.com (rhiannon333)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:07:11 -0000
Subject: Are there any hardcore Aussie HP fans here ?
In-Reply-To: <c89n7o+7n8c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8iahv+5ir6@eGroups.com>

Hi there,

Nice to hear from another Aussie fan. Pauline mentioned the 
HPFGU_Aus list, 
which has always been rather quiet, and sadly I am not aware 
of other lists. There definitely are fans out there, as evidenced 
by the number lining up for  the release of OotP last year, but 
they don't seem to be around much on lists. 
(One day when I have time I intend to go back over lists I am 
on / LJ etc and contact the obvious Aussies, which would make 
a good number to pep up the HPFGU_Aus list if they joined.) 
There are two of us here in the inner west of Sydney, who 
would be happy to be contacted off list regarding meetups
for  PoA etc.  Hope to hear from you!

Megan

PS And many thanks to indefatigable Sheryll the Birthday Elf and All
Round Fabulous Cook for my birthday wishes!

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pmills1111"
<pmills1111 at y...> 
wrote:
> I'm just wondering if there are any hardcore Australian HP fans
here 
> and if so, could any such people respond and please give links to 
> what you (and other Aus HP fans) currently regard as the best and 
> most active Aussie based HP fan group/s, along with their website 
> address (if they have one) if possible.




From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Thu May 20 13:42:01 2004
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:42:01 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Are there any hardcore Aussie HP fans here ?/driving tests
In-Reply-To: <c8iahv+5ir6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CGEKJJCJGOLNJLCPJCJJMEECCLAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

There are other Inner West Sydney fans on HPFGU-OT? No way!

make that three

storm, in Lewisham, (the one in Sydney not the one in London, hi Neil)

ps I failed my driving test twice and only got it on the third go because
the driving tester felt sorry for me. 15 years later and I've not killed
anyone yet.

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From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Thu May 20 14:17:10 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:17:10 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!
References: <20040520112505.YDEN6671.out003.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <013201c43e75$23bd22b0$bcde6251@kathryn>

Silverthorne/Anne
> And to think--I was afraid of the parallell parking part!
>
> Anyhow, hang in there, Naama--I know that next time you go you'll ace the
thing. ;)
>

K

*hugs* Naama, I failed three times so far (and that was before we introduced
a written test so now I have to sit both when I get around to trying again).

And to Silverthorne - parallel parking I could do, it was the reversing
around a corner manoeuvre that got me each time. I could do the same thing
into a parking space (because I can see the cars either side of me and know
what I have to line up with) but being really short I can't see the darn
kerb that I'm supposed to be parallel with when I stop. I've never seen
anyone need to reverse around a corner and end up parallel with the kerb
anyway, most times if you reverse around a corner you're in the middle of
turning around.

*grumble* Unfortunately they won't let you do the manoeuvre into a parking
space because they don't like to let learners too near anyone else's car :)

K




From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Thu May 20 14:32:49 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:32:49 +0100
Subject: Annotated Lemony Snicket page?
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A80F0D@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Help - I've deleted my favourites and cannot re-find a fabulous page of
annotations to each Lemony Snicket book listing some literary allusions
contained therein. It's on an HP fansite, but I cannot remember which
one. Google's not helping since it's returning too many book stores.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.



From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu May 20 14:49:57 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:49:57 -0000
Subject: Order of Merlin
Message-ID: <c8igil+dvdj@eGroups.com>

Not a canon post as such, but I thought HPFGU members would be 
interested in the background to things like Malfoy's charitable 
donations and Snape's desire for the OM:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3731677.stm

I think Major could have had a knighthood or peerage if he wanted so 
he's probably telling the truth when he says he doesn't want them.

I think Fudge's attitude generally is quite different to Major's.

David, who failed his driving test first time round




From oakandbadger at rogers.com  Thu May 20 15:49:38 2004
From: oakandbadger at rogers.com (oakandbadger)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:49:38 -0000
Subject: Annotated Lemony Snicket page?
In-Reply-To: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A80F0D@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <c8ik2i+6vh6@eGroups.com>

Dumbledad: 
> Help - I've deleted my favourites and cannot re-find 
> a fabulous page of annotations to each Lemony Snicket
> book listing some literary allusions contained therein. 
> It's on an HP fansite [snip]

Hi Dumbledad,

My first post here [hello everyone!].

I think you're looking for the list on quidditch.com
http://www.quidditch.com/lemony%20snicket.htm

Ostara






From paulined at optushome.com.au  Thu May 20 18:06:51 2004
From: paulined at optushome.com.au (Pauline)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 04:06:51 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Are there any hardcore Aussie HP
  fans here ?
In-Reply-To: <c8iahv+5ir6@eGroups.com>
References: <c89n7o+7n8c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040521035921.053677e0@mail>


>(One day when I have time I intend to go back over lists I am
>on / LJ etc and contact the obvious Aussies, which would make
>a good number to pep up the HPFGU_Aus list if they joined.)
>There are two of us here in the inner west of Sydney, who
>would be happy to be contacted off list regarding meetups
>for  PoA etc.  Hope to hear from you!
>
>Megan

  That is a wonderful idea, Megan.   I live in Bexley which is close to the 
inner west.

The Witching Hour site is enabling Line Parties for the opening of the PoA 
http://www.witchinghour.org/getinvolved/preevents.html
including one that is getting off the ground in Sydney - Sydney, Australia: 
please contact Cindy and Veronica at sydney at witchinghour.org.  It is 
meeting at the Macquarie Centre on our opening day, 10th June.



Love Pauline

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From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 19:10:18 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:10:18 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <013201c43e75$23bd22b0$bcde6251@kathryn>
Message-ID: <c8ivqq+59g8@eGroups.com>



> 
> And to Silverthorne - parallel parking I could do, it was the 
reversing
> around a corner manoeuvre that got me each time. I could do the 
same thing
> into a parking space (because I can see the cars either side of me 
and know
> what I have to line up with) but being really short I can't see 
the darn
> kerb that I'm supposed to be parallel with when I stop. I've never 
seen
> anyone need to reverse around a corner and end up parallel with 
the kerb
> anyway, most times if you reverse around a corner you're in the 
middle of
> turning around.
> 
> *grumble* Unfortunately they won't let you do the manoeuvre into a 
parking
> space because they don't like to let learners too near anyone 
else's car :)
> 
> K



Is this a UK driving test you're talking about? It doesnt sound so 
much like the one i took here in South Carolina, USA. Sure, parallel 
parking was involved (between  big barrels) and we had to reverse 
100 feet but around a corner? Who would do that in an every day 
driving situation anyway? Ever? LOL

I did pass my first time at 15 but only just. 69 being failing, I 
scored a 70. One poor girl was there for her 7th try. Im hoping they 
just gave her a permanent bus pass.

Jason




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Thu May 20 19:39:45 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:39:45 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
References: <c8ivqq+59g8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001301c43ea2$34705e60$bcde6251@kathryn>

Jen
> Is this a UK driving test you're talking about? It doesnt sound so
> much like the one i took here in South Carolina, USA. Sure, parallel
> parking was involved (between  big barrels) and we had to reverse
> 100 feet but around a corner? Who would do that in an every day
> driving situation anyway? Ever? LOL
>
K

Yep that's the English version. You have to do 2 of the 3 manoeuvres (3
point turn, parallel park, reverse around a corner) and every test I did
picked the one I can't do! Now you have to do a written test first - and I
can't remember how much it costs but it always struck me as being too
expensive (although that could be because I had to pay it several times <g>)

K




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 22:06:11 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:06:11 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <c8hg8c+gj5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ja4j+an11@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanar" <naama2486 at y...> wrote:
> I know this has nothing to do with HP, but I needed support...
> 
> I've failed my first driving test about an hour ago. And I got the 
> worst tester I could possibly get: Posidon. I swear, he's a 
> Voldemort made Muggle.
> 
> Anyway, the tears won't stop coming, and I know I'm being silly, 
> most people don't pass their first test but I got *so* disappointed. 
> *sniff*
> 
> Help!
> 
> -- A very sad and tearful Amanar


bboy_mn:

Just curious, where are you? Not your exact address, just get me in
the country or state.

Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are not
only very difficult but the License is also very expense, frequently
amounting to a few hundred US dollars.

Also, you had the misfortune of getting a very strict, and possibly
slightly vindictive tester, that makes all the difference in the
world. There used to be one tester (highway patrolman) in a county
near my home town who was notoriously lenient in giving the driving
test. People used to come from 30 miles around to take their test from
him. Basically, if you could drive a couple of blocks without passing
out dead drunk, you passed the test. That was back before the days of
Driver's Education too.
 
I lived in rural Iowa and Minnesota, and most kids learned to drive on
the farm. Indeed many of them started driving when they were about 10.
Even myself, who was a town kid, drove a car at age 10. In fact, at
that time, many of the 'farm' states had a special provision for a
'Farm License' which would allow farm kids to drive on unpaved country
roads at a very young age (13 or 14, I think). 

Keep practicing, and hope for a better tester next time.

By the way, I think I got something like a 74 on my driver's test, you
need 70 out of 100 to pass.

bboy_mn






From snow15145 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 21:52:51 2004
From: snow15145 at yahoo.com (snow15145)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:52:51 -0000
Subject: JKR site question?
Message-ID: <c8j9bj+ttf4@eGroups.com>

I was curious if anyone else right clicked on the desktop and checked 
out settings. There are four icons at the bottom of the screen under 
settings. The first one asks if JKRowling.com can access your camera 
and microphone. The second asks how much info you will allow the site 
to download on you pc. The third allows you to reduce the echo. The 
fourth is about your web cam if you have one.
My question and/or thought is; could JKR have set this up with the 
intent to enable visitation to your pc or to possibly call or leave a 
message via the phone on the desk top? 

Snow-aka Kathy King





From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 22:14:36 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:14:36 -0000
Subject: JKR site question? - NO
In-Reply-To: <c8j9bj+ttf4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8jakc+t8kj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "snow15145" <snow15145 at y...>
wrote:
> I was curious if anyone else right clicked on the desktop and checked 
> out settings. There are four icons at the bottom of the screen under 
> settings. The first one asks if JKRowling.com can access your camera 
> and microphone. The second asks how much info you will allow the site 
> to download on you pc. The third allows you to reduce the echo. The 
> fourth is about your web cam if you have one.
> My question and/or thought is; could JKR have set this up with the 
> intent to enable visitation to your pc or to possibly call or leave a 
> message via the phone on the desk top? 
> 
> Snow-aka Kathy King

bboy_mn:

This has nothing to do with JKR's website. It is completely an
isolated part of Macromedia's Shockwave FLASH player. The entire sight
is constructed using Macromedia's FLASH programming, those setting are
universal to all FLASH sites, and while FLASH programming has those
capabilities, that does't mean they are incorporated into JKR's site.

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Thu May 20 22:18:28 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:18:28 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
References: <c8ja4j+an11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001101c43eb8$60f7be90$bcde6251@kathryn>


>
> bboy_mn:
>
> Just curious, where are you? Not your exact address, just get me in
> the country or state.
>
> Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are not
> only very difficult but the License is also very expense, frequently
> amounting to a few hundred US dollars.
>
K

Just checked this up - in the UK the theory test is 20.50 and then the
actual practical test is at least 39 (it's more if you want weekends or
evenings or if you're retaking it after being disqualified).

Plus usually you'll be taking it in your instructor's car so that's the cost
of an hour's lesson on top of the fee - when I first tried learning (ten
years ago) that was about 10-11, plus of course there's the cost of lessons
beforehand, at least ten usually, so at least another 100. Good grief! How
does anyone afford it I ask myself. *sigh* Fortunately I was given lessons
as my 17th birthday present and my dad says as far as he's concerned that
means lessons until I pass so he's going to pay again. But wow - I hadn't
realised how much it all cost!

What about in the US, bboy_mn, how does the cost break down there?

K




From constancevigilance at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 22:43:58 2004
From: constancevigilance at yahoo.com (Constance Vigilance)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <001101c43eb8$60f7be90$bcde6251@kathryn>
Message-ID: <20040520224358.25470.qmail@web14523.mail.yahoo.com>

It varies by state, but in my state (California), when I went to school (loooog ago), Driver's Ed was a required course in High School. Driver's Ed was rules of the road, which took about 1 week if you go slow, and the rest of the year was "health" (sex ed). About one month of the course was over-the-road training which meant we all went to the similator room and drove on training simulators with one teacher for 30 students. As this was just part of the regular High School curriculum, it was free.
 
License tests are provided for free by the state, and you can take it as often as necessary to pass.
 
Constance Vigilance

Kathryn Cawte <kcawte at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
> bboy_mn:
>
> Just curious, where are you? Not your exact address, just get me in
> the country or state.
>
> Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are not
> only very difficult but the License is also very expense, frequently
> amounting to a few hundred US dollars.
>
K

Just checked this up - in the UK the theory test is ?20.50 and then the
actual practical test is at least ?39 (it's more if you want weekends or
evenings or if you're retaking it after being disqualified).

Plus usually you'll be taking it in your instructor's car so that's the cost
of an hour's lesson on top of the fee - when I first tried learning (ten
years ago) that was about ?10-11, plus of course there's the cost of lessons
beforehand, at least ten usually, so at least another ?100. Good grief! How
does anyone afford it I ask myself. *sigh* Fortunately I was given lessons
as my 17th birthday present and my dad says as far as he's concerned that
means lessons until I pass so he's going to pay again. But wow - I hadn't
realised how much it all cost!

What about in the US, bboy_mn, how does the cost break down there?

K



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From ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 22:54:10 2004
From: ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com (Miss Melanie)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <20040520224358.25470.qmail@web14523.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040520225410.92033.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>

What about in the US, bboy_mn, how does the cost break down there?

K

I'm not really sure how the cost breaks down.  In Ohio, it depends on where you go to school.  I know that I went to a Catholic school and we didn't get reimbursed for our driving instructions.  I think they cost anywhere between 75-100 dollars.  I didn't pay for mine so I can't really remember.  It doesn't cost to take the test. I knwo this because I personally failed mine 3 times.  :)  Don't ask.
 
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From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 23:00:23 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:00:23 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <20040520225410.92033.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c8jda7+tgdf@eGroups.com>


> What about in the US, bboy_mn, how does the cost break down there?
> 
> K
> 
> I'm not really sure how the cost breaks down.  In Ohio, it depends 
on where you go to school.  I know that I went to a Catholic school 
and we didn't get reimbursed for our driving instructions.  I think 
they cost anywhere between 75-100 dollars.  I didn't pay for mine so 
I can't really remember.  It doesn't cost to take the test. I knwo 
this because I personally failed mine 3 times.  :)  Don't ask.
>  
> ~Melanie
> 
> 		


In South Carolina, in 1996 atleast, drivers ed was just an elective 
in school and not required at all. I never took it because my dad 
had be letting me drive to places like the corner store and the dump 
and other close by backroads places.

As for the test itself I think it was free. But the actual license 
itself had a cost of maybe $10. We also drive our own cars during 
the road test.

Jason




From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 23:20:06 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:20:06 -0000
Subject: Article about the website
Message-ID: <c8jef6+4mrk@eGroups.com>




http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_3733000/3733863.stm


That link should take you to an article that mentions how often the 
page should be updated and the same clue to the door thats on the 
site. Intersting stuff.

Jason





From siskiou at vcem.com  Thu May 20 23:53:13 2004
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:53:13 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <c8ja4j+an11@eGroups.com>
References: <c8hg8c+gj5d@eGroups.com> <c8ja4j+an11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1394513963.20040520165313@vcem.com>



Hi,

Thursday, May 20, 2004, 3:06:11 PM, bboy_mn at yahoo.com wrote:

> Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are not
> only very difficult but the License is also very expense, frequently
> amounting to a few hundred US dollars.

That's true, at least for Germany, where I grew up and
fortunately passed the driver's test the first time.

The lessons alone came to about 800 Deutsche Mark (1977), not
including the costs for the written and practical tests.

You can't learn from your parents, only from a licensed
teacher.

My whole first month's wages went for the license.

We also had to be able to change a tier, navigate a parking
garage, the Autobahn, drive at night (not for the test,
during the lessons)...

Then I had to do another test over here in Oregon, because
they wouldn't accept my German driver's license :}

I made one mistake several times, which was stopping before
a train crossing, which is something you have do in Germany,
but fortunately it didn't make me lose too many points.

I hated both tests, and was shaking and scared. I hope to
never have to do it again!

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From editor at texas.net  Fri May 21 01:20:44 2004
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:20:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!
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Message-ID: <002b01c43ed3$7bc2c4c0$945aaacf@texas.net>

Don't feel alone. I failed my first test, and then when I went back, I got
the *same state trooper* as the first time, and he *remembered* me....it was
awful. I think I only passed by two points. I cringed for years whenever I
went past that DPS office.

~Amandageist

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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:38 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've failed my driving test!


> I know this has nothing to do with HP, but I needed support...
>
> I've failed my first driving test about an hour ago. And I got the
> worst tester I could possibly get: Posidon. I swear, he's a
> Voldemort made Muggle.
>
> Anyway, the tears won't stop coming, and I know I'm being silly,
> most people don't pass their first test but I got *so* disappointed.
> *sniff*
>
> Help!
>
> -- A very sad and tearful Amanar
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From peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 04:38:25 2004
From: peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com (Sheila)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: taping tv spots and interviews / looking for someone
Message-ID: <20040521043825.41786.qmail@web20607.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey all
I'm looking for someone that I got in contact with last year thru this
list. They had recorded stuff off tv about the CoS movie, interviews
etc, that I can't get up here in Canada and with the limited number of
chanels I can afford. I've lost any trace I had of who she was and am
hoping she is still on this list and willing to do it again for all of
the PoA coverage I am missing. 
If anybody knows who I am talking about, or is willing to tape things
for me (I will pay!), please contact me privately. 
Thanks!
Sheila, who incidentally just passed her "G" licence and is now fully
licenced to drive! 
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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 07:04:30 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:04:30 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <001101c43eb8$60f7be90$bcde6251@kathryn>
Message-ID: <c8k9lu+k7et@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" <kcawte at n...>
wrote:
> 
> >
> > bboy_mn:
> >
> > Just curious, where are you? Not your exact address, just get me
> > in the country or state. 
> >
> > Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are 
> > not only very difficult but the License is also very expense, 
> > frequently amounting to a few hundred US dollars.
> >


> K
> 
> Just checked this up - in the UK the theory test is ?20.50 and then
> the actual practical test is at least ?39.
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> What about in the US, bboy_mn, how does the cost break down there?
> 
> K


bboy_mn:

In Minnesota most of the public High Schools provide drivers training
classes, so usually there is no cost. 

The license itself (Class D - general purpose) is $18.50 (about 10
Pounds).

Unlike Britain, and other Euro countries I assume, in the USA the year
before you are old enough to get a license, you are allowed to get a
Learner's Permit, that allows you to take Driver's Training and drive
when accompanied by a licensed adult.

In Minnesota, if I understand correctly, you can get you license at
age 16 IF you are still in school and have completed your Driver's
Training. If you drop out of school, you can't get your license until
you are 18. 

I checked and you can still get a very restrictive Farm Driving Permit
when you are as young as 15. You are restricted to driving on unpaved
secondary roads and only during daylight hours, and your driving must
be related to farm work.

Neither the written test nor the driving test cost anything.

I'm curious again, you gave us the cost for taking the test, but how
much does the actual license itself cost? 

I think in Germany the cost is extremely high. They take driving very
serious there. Not to imply that Brit's don't take driving serious.

Just curious.

bboy_mn







From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Fri May 21 07:39:32 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:39:32 +0100
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A80F99@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,
 
... Snipped discussion about driver training in USA and Europe ...
 
This is weird. It is true that driver training in the UK is more lengthy
and more rigorous and has a higher age requirement than driver training
in the USA (the two countries I've driven most in). But drivers in the
USA (at least in the Pacific Northwest) are sooo much better than
drivers here in the UK. They drive slower, they stay calmer, and they
allow for, and are more forgiving of other driver's errors. I think East
Coast driving may be more like the UK, but West Coast driving is a
dream. Can you imagine a four way stop in the UK? There'd be a huge pile
of carnage in the middle.
 
Can I tell a non-PC anecdote? I too failed my driving test first time,
and I also failed it second time (this was in Brighton, UK). I had the
same examiner both times, a short Italian man. At the end of my second
failure he turned to me and said "driving is like making love to a
woman, the more you do it, the better at it you become". Given that this
examiner had a reputation for austerity among the local driving tutors,
it was a very odd moment. 
 
Cheers,
 
Dumbledad.


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From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 09:12:29 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:12:29 -0000
Subject: Getting an Israeli driver's license (WAS: Re: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8ja4j+an11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8kh5t+dr5g@eGroups.com>

bboy_mn:

> Just curious, where are you? Not your exact address, just get me in
> the country or state.

I'm from Israel, so even if I did give you my exact address, I doubt 
it would have mattered much ;) (I'm feeling much better thanks to 
you guys)

> Driver's tests in most of Europe, from my limited knowledge, are 
> not only very difficult but the License is also very expense, 
> frequently amounting to a few hundred US dollars.

Here's the way it goes in here:
We have a written test, but you don't get marks out of a hundred for 
it. You need to answer 30 questions, and if you got up to 4 mistakes 
you pass. The fifth is a fail (thankfully, I did manage that one 
first time around)

We can't learn from our parents, we need to take lessons from a 
licensed teacher, at least 28 before we can take the test. You need 
to have passed the written exam before you take the practical one, 
and if you fail either one you have to wait 14 days before you're 
allowed to try again. 

And you don't score points on the practical exam as well. It's just 
the impression you leave on your tester. So a strict tester can fail 
you for anything: driving too fast in narrow lanes, being too close 
to the right-hand side of the road, not looking enough times in the 
mirrors, holding the wheel the wrong way, driving too fast, driving 
too slow, being nervous, breathing too loudly, looking funny, being 
masculine, being feminine, the tester having a bad day etc. 

So when you get to pass with 70, we don't pass for anything short of 
a hundred. Though I can see where that comes from. Over 500 people 
die every year in car crashes (there are only about 5 million 
Israelis, so that's a big number) so you have to be careful as to 
who you give a license. And the government doesn't want too many 
cars on the roads. There are already horrible traffic jams at about 
8 AM and at 4 PM as people come and go from their work. But it 
doesn't make it any fairer.

It costs 113 NIS (New Israeli Shekels) to take the written one, and 
200 to take the practical one. Considering it's about 4.5 Shekels to 
a Dollar last time I checked, that's not too bad once or twice, but 
get too many of them wrong and it gets expensive. And the driving 
teacher doesn't work for nothing - most of the money goes on the 
lessons rather than the tests themselves. And driving under 17 or 
without a license is illeagle here no matter where you do it.

Those were a bit more than 60 seconds on the matter of getting an 
Israeli driver's license :)

-- Amanar, who with the amount of stories here started thinking of 
posting her really spectacular fail in more detail.




From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Fri May 21 12:38:06 2004
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:38:06 -0000
Subject: Californication (was: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <20040520224358.25470.qmail@web14523.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c8kt7e+g047@eGroups.com>

Constance Vigilance wrote:

> It varies by state, but in my state (California), when I went to 
school (loooog ago), Driver's Ed was a required course in High 
School. Driver's Ed was rules of the road, which took about 1 week 
if you go slow, and the rest of the year was "health" (sex ed). 

I find this a fascinating observation on several levels.  Leaving 
aside the interesting fact that allegedly right wing USA provides 
driving lessons free while good ol' corporatist sclerotic Europe 
insists that the individual pays, there is a vast Freudian field of 
study in the apparent equivalence of driving and sex.

The implication that driving is intrinsic to life, that it is 
something only practised by adults (but in those rural areas...), 
that there are rules, that if you disobey them...

And then there's the non-equivalence, too: one lesson versus a 
year's worth - what does that say?  That there is more to sex than 
driving?  That American parents are more anxious about one than the 
other (but which kills more teenagers?)?

Somehow a whole society is laid bare...

David




From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 14:03:43 2004
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:03:43 -0000
Subject: Californication (was: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8kt7e+g047@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8l27v+dpio@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley"
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> Constance Vigilance wrote:
> 
> > It varies by state, but in my state (California), when I went to 
> school (loooog ago), Driver's Ed was a required course in High 
> School. Driver's Ed was rules of the road, which took about 1 week 
> if you go slow, and the rest of the year was "health" (sex ed). 
> 
> I find this a fascinating observation on several levels.  Leaving 
> aside the interesting fact that allegedly right wing USA provides 
> driving lessons free while good ol' corporatist sclerotic Europe 
> insists that the individual pays, there is a vast Freudian field of 
> study in the apparent equivalence of driving and sex.

I also took driver's ed in California (hmm... 14 years ago?), and at
our school, we only had it for a semester.  The other semester, we had
a basic computer class - and by that, I really mean "Basic" - we
learned how to come up with simple programs in Basic for 18 weeks.

Anyway, my driver's ed 18 weeks was *all* driving.  I don't even
remember any part of high school being devoted to "health" - which is
perhaps why our county had the highest teen pregnancy rate in THE
WHOLE COUNTRY while I was at school.  That and the fact that we had to
drive 8 miles to get to a mall/movie theater.  Hmm... maybe we SHOULD
have had health mixed with driver's ed. ;)

All I remember from my driver's ed experience was "Red Asphalt" (is
that the name of that movie?  We watched #3, if I recall correctly)
and a story about a car accident told by my teacher.  That and another
story by my teacher about how he calculates how long he's been
teaching by how many Superbowls there have been, i.e., if it's
"Superbowl XXX", he knows he's been teaching 30 years.  Perhaps it was
amazing that I passed at all, huh?  I did, though one of my closer
friends didn't, and she was the valedictorian of her class.  She got
"The *itch" (she was Mormon, so she used W in place of the *), and it
took her 3 times to pass... she didn't until she was assigned to
another tester.  

Gosh, sorry for rambling... it's only 7am and I didn't get much sleep.
 Now I'm going to get all nostalgic about getting my driver's licence
13 years ago tomorrow... 

-Jen, nearing the end of her 20s...




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Fri May 21 17:46:26 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 18:46:26 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!
References: <c8k9lu+k7et@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e401c43f5b$8a7231d0$bcde6251@kathryn>


bboy_mn

Unlike Britain, and other Euro countries I assume, in the USA the year
before you are old enough to get a license, you are allowed to get a
Learner's Permit, that allows you to take Driver's Training and drive
when accompanied by a licensed adult.

K

You can get a provisional license at age 17 and take your test at any point
after that - originally I think you had to wait till you were 18.
Technically you could take your test the day you turned 17 now though (since
you don;t need a license to drive on private land you could learn before
then without a license).

The reason I didn't give the cost for a license is I couldn't find it
anywhere. You pay for the provisional license at it simply gets swapped for
a full license if/when you pass - but since I got mine when I was 17 I don't
remember how much it cost and have no clue how much it's gone up since. You
do have to pay to replace it if you lose it.

bboy_mn

I checked and you can still get a very restrictive Farm Driving Permit
when you are as young as 15. You are restricted to driving on unpaved
secondary roads and only during daylight hours, and your driving must
be related to farm work.

K

As I said if you're not on public roads/land you don't need a license so
plenty of farm kids drive landrovers before 17, some from the time they're
large enough to reach everything.


bboy_mn

I think in Germany the cost is extremely high. They take driving very
serious there. Not to imply that Brit's don't take driving serious.


K

One thing we don't learn here is motorway driving (although if you're on the
M25 all you need to know is where the handbrake is, you don't even need to
get out of first gear ;) It's illegal to drive on a motorway before you have
a license - so obviously you can't learn till after you've passed your test
and then it's optional.

When learning you don't actually need a licensed instructor. To be legal, as
a learner, you must have an adult over a certain age (25 I think) who has
held a license for a certain length of time (5 years I think) in the car
with you but that is all. However anyone who learns from their parents is
obviously part of a family of saints because it's the quickest way to get
into a fight. I went out once with my father - *never* again!

K




From lilibetlilibet at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 14:14:45 2004
From: lilibetlilibet at yahoo.com (lilibetlilibet)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:14:45 -0000
Subject: Feather clues
Message-ID: <c8l2sl+lior@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone. This is my first post and I would like to know if anyone
has got the feather off JKR's desk? I would appreciate any clues.
Thanks.
Lilibet






From abigailnus at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 23:17:33 2004
From: abigailnus at yahoo.com (abigailnus)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:17:33 -0000
Subject: Getting an Israeli driver's license (WAS: Re: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8kh5t+dr5g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8m2md+sk41@eGroups.com>

As a fellow Israeli, I thought Amanar would like to know that my 
magic number, driving test wise, is a big fat 5.  Failing your first 
test really isn't that big a deal around here - it's practically 
expected.  Having been a driver for nearly four years, I've come 
to the conclusion that getting your license is one of those Israeli 
rites of passage, like serving in the army.  It's rarely ever pleasant, 
seems like it's going to last forever, and then when it ends you 
can hardly remember what all the fuss was about.

So hang in there, Amanar, you'll get them next time.  Or the next.  
Or the one after that. 

Abigail




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 00:16:06 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:16:06 -0000
Subject: Britsh/UK Driving License Info
Message-ID: <c8m646+7gpk@eGroups.com>

Just discovered the UK Dept. of Vehicle and Licensing Agency.

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/welcome.htm

For what it's worth a Provisional License in the UK is ?38.00 plus and
additional ?9.00 to convert Provisional to full for a total cost of
?47.00 or at an exchange rate of 1.8 = US$84.60. (actuall rate = 1.789)

You can't imagine the outrage that would occur if a license cost that
much in the USA.

For those interest or those with far too much time on their hands-

The UK Driving Standard Agency which administers the written and
driving tests-

http://www.dsa.gov.uk/

To pass the written test you need at least 44 out of 75 (59%).

Both sites, I believe, include sample written test. Just took one of
the sample tests; scored 24, failed. (test had 35 questions but some
questions had multiple answers as in pick two from the list)

Fees for actually taking the test are as follows-

Written Test-
Standard fee for Car, Motorcycle, and Vocational = ?20.50 (US$36.00)
Potential / Approved Driving Instructor (not sure what this is) 
?50.00 (US$90.00)
 
Practical Test - Weekdays
Car = ?39.00 (US$70.20)
Motorcycle = ?48.00 (US$86.40)

Practical Test - Saturday and Weekday Evenings
Car Test = ?48.00 (US$86.40)
Motorcycle = ?57.00 (US$102.60)

Driving lessons- (Confidence School of Motoring)

Beginner drivers will need approximately 24 x 2 hour lessons
(48 hours) to reach the required standard to take the driving test.

Cost 48 hours @ ?26 per hour = ?1248 

Most young drivers take the additional 'Pass Plus' which includes
motorway training and helps reduce insurance rates. ...for an
additional fee of course.

That's nearly $200 just to get the license, plus the additional $800
to $1200 for lessons. 

Seriously, if it cost that much in the USA, we would have rioting in
the streets in outraged protest.


Just for fun.

bboy_mn







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 04:32:51 2004
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 04:32:51 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8eoig+6t80@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ml5j+jqtv@eGroups.com>

> Okay, Pippin.  You are a better person than I if you got anything 
> from our cheering charm creator.  I have stared at that characature 
> for hours and though some very interesting things have happened 
> behind him (the watch, the phone, that very large bug), I cannot for 
> the life of me click on anything that will do anything else.  If you 
> have one, I could use another cough, hint, cough!
> 
> BTW... does anyone have any more than four things in their scrapbook?
> 
> Thank you graciously for any help.
> 
> Sue (hpfan) who is horribly annoyed at her own computer disabilities!


Hi, Sue. My first post to this group. The HPfGU site seems stuck on
SHIPping posts, so this seemed like a good time to try out JKR's site
(and this group). I've been leaving up her main page, the links page,
and the fan page by turns hoping to see the leaf, the feather, and the
potion beaker, but no sign of any of them. Hey, at least I've seen
what Peeves does on all those pages.

Carol, who has only *three* items in her scrapbook (from the spider,
the medal, and the MAGIC phone call). (Are those the ones you have?
What's your fourth?) C.





From hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 05:56:22 2004
From: hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com (hpfgu_list_elves)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 05:56:22 -0000
Subject: From the Main List, 99033
Message-ID: <c8mq26+a9fu@eGroups.com>

From:  "David Burgess" <burgess at cynjut.net>
Date:  Fri May 21, 2004  10:48 am
Subject:  Re: Look out for squidward.


> -Dhyana, who wonders how many 'Squidwards' mugglenet has now.

After I get it fixed, I could log on and check - I own the server. Right
now it's down with a flaky problem that looks like it could be a bad
memory stick.

Dave




From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 06:32:15 2004
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 06:32:15 -0000
Subject: Californication (was: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8kt7e+g047@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ms5f+dqtd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley" 
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> Constance Vigilance wrote:
> 
> > It varies by state, but in my state (California), when I went to 
> school (loooog ago), Driver's Ed was a required course in High 
> School. Driver's Ed was rules of the road, which took about 1 week 
> if you go slow, and the rest of the year was "health" (sex ed). 

Then David replied 
> I find this a fascinating observation on several levels.  Leaving 
> aside the interesting fact that allegedly right wing USA provides 
> driving lessons free while good ol' corporatist sclerotic Europe 
> insists that the individual pays, there is a vast Freudian field 
of 
> study in the apparent equivalence of driving and sex.
> 
> The implication that driving is intrinsic to life, that it is 
> something only practised by adults (but in those rural areas...), 
> that there are rules, that if you disobey them...
> 
> And then there's the non-equivalence, too: one lesson versus a 
> year's worth - what does that say?  That there is more to sex than 
> driving?  That American parents are more anxious about one than 
the 
> other (but which kills more teenagers?)?
> 
> Somehow a whole society is laid bare...
> 
> David

Beth: Ah, but don't judge the entire U.S. by California! ;) 

My daughter would have had Driver's Ed as part of her class schedule 
for one quarter next year (about 9 weeks, 88 min./day) at a cost of 
$50. This is a class that's offered to everyone and it's scheduled 
by birthday. However, I didn't want it taking up a class period, so 
she's taking it this summer (after independently studying for the 
Rules of the Road test for a week and passing it. I'm not sure if I 
should be proud or scared!), at a cost of $150. If she had taken the 
class through the city, it would have cost $300, so I guess I'm 
getting a bargain in order to free up her schedule for an art 
class?? 

I'm not sure yet what costs are involved with getting the license, 
just that our insurance rates will soar!

Sex ed. was part of the required health class for 9th grade which is 
also a nine week class. 

Incidentally, my husband recently returned from a trip to Sweden and 
was impressed by the number of bicycles everywhere and still shaking 
his head over the fact that his host families would sometimes stop 
in the middle of the highway and back up to turn around. With gas 
prices climbing (although not nearly as high as there, he keeps 
pointing out), it would be wonderful if we could rely on bikes for 
transportation more often. However, I don't think our lives nor our 
city are structured in such a way to make it a practical solution. 

Beth




From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sat May 22 07:21:21 2004
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:21:21 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Feather for the cauldron/on the main page
In-Reply-To: <c8e12o+chse@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CGEKJJCJGOLNJLCPJCJJKEFFCLAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

The feather is on the bookshelf in fan sites page... There is no cauldron,
once you have all four items you get an item for your scrap book.

AFAIK the feather on the main page does not do anything.

cheers

storm

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From: ogirouar [mailto:ogirouar at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2004 8:01 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Feather


Does anyone know how to get the feather that is needed for the potion
on JKR's website? Also does anyone know where the cauldron is?  I
can't get the door open and I am assuming you need these things to
get it open?  If I am wrong let me know.




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From elfundeb at comcast.net  Sat May 22 11:42:09 2004
From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb2)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:42:09 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <00e401c43f5b$8a7231d0$bcde6251@kathryn>
Message-ID: <c8neah+ksom@eGroups.com>

What fun!  Driving test nostalgia!

bboy_mn
> 
> Unlike Britain, and other Euro countries I assume, in the USA the 
year
> before you are old enough to get a license, you are allowed to get 
a
> Learner's Permit, that allows you to take Driver's Training and 
drive
> when accompanied by a licensed adult.


It wasn't always this way.  I'm from New Jersey and got my license 
in the '70s.  We all took a required driver's ed course at school 
when we were 16 (it was the junior year health curriculum, and it 
included various bloody car crash movies, including a rather amusing 
one in which two overly chatty old ladies caused a fatal accident 
through their inattention and then showed up at the estate sale and 
purchased the victim's furniture at a discount from his grieving 
widow) and took the written test as part of the course).  

However, we could not obtain a learner's permit until we had reached 
the state's driving age, which at 17, was (and still is, I believe) 
the highest of any state in the US.  As a result everyone took a 
morning off from school on their 17th birthday to obtain the coveted 
permit.  

> Technically you could take your test the day you turned 17 now 
though (since
> you don;t need a license to drive on private land you could learn 
before
> then without a license).
> 

Yes, this is basically the same rule we had, except that in urban 
areas like ours, there was no private land suitable for driving.  
But that didn't stop us from making our appointments for the driving 
test while we were at the DMV (Division of Motor Vehicles) getting 
our permits.  We always chose the first available appointment which 
in my case was about 5 weeks later.  We didn't need licensed 
instructors to teach us, and I had trouble getting any driving time, 
but I went ahead and took the test on schedule and, amazingly, 
passed on the first attempt.

This wasn't a good thing, though.  I was an awful driver, with no 
sense of timing.  So were most of my friends.  In fact, for the 
first few months I was a menace behind the wheel.

Our school did have free behind-the-wheel training as well.  This 
had nothing to do with learning to drive, though.  Because of 
scheduling problems (I got my permit and license during summer 
vacation), most people didn't get this training until after they had 
their licenses.  The reason we all got the behind-the-wheel training 
anyway was that the insurance companies offered a discount for young 
drivers who had been trained by official instructors.  Besides, we 
could schedule the training during our most boring classes. ;-)


K
> 
> One thing we don't learn here is motorway driving (although if 
you're on the
> M25 all you need to know is where the handbrake is, you don't even 
need to
> get out of first gear ;) It's illegal to drive on a motorway 
before you have
> a license - so obviously you can't learn till after you've passed 
your test
> and then it's optional.

Hmm.  I think I drove to my driving test on the highway -- one of 
the first divided highways ever built, with narrow lanes, Jersey 
barriers with no shoulders, and extremely short merges -- in other 
words, far less safe than today's US interstates or UK motorways.  


However anyone who learns from their parents is
> obviously part of a family of saints because it's the quickest way 
to get
> into a fight. I went out once with my father - *never* again!

Everyone here learned from their parents.  Who else would get you 
out on the road enough in that 5-week window we gave ourselves?

Debbie
who drove the family car into the side of the garage, damaging both, 
within a month of receiving the coveted license




From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 13:18:19 2004
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 13:18:19 -0000
Subject: Getting an Israeli driver's license (WAS: Re: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8kh5t+dr5g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8njur+9a73@eGroups.com>

> Amanar:
> I'm from Israel, so even if I did give you my exact address, I 
doubt 
> it would have mattered much ;) (I'm feeling much better thanks to 
> you guys)
><snip>
> We can't learn from our parents, we need to take lessons from a 
> licensed teacher, at least 28 before we can take the test. You 
need 
> to have passed the written exam before you take the practical one, 
> and if you fail either one you have to wait 14 days before you're 
> allowed to try again. 
> 
> And you don't score points on the practical exam as well. It's 
just 
> the impression you leave on your tester. 

snazzzybird pops out of lurkdom to say --

My son just got his Israeli driver's license a little over a week 
ago.  He's 24 and moved to Israel from the midwestern US, so he'd 
already been driving for 9 years -- the last few of them in 
Chicago!  He was still required to take at least one lesson, and 
then it was at the instructor's discretion whether to clear him to 
take the test or require further lessons.  To Firstborn's relief, 
his instructor cleared him after the second lesson.  He'd already 
gotten a physical and an eye exam and presented that paperwork, and 
passed the written test.  When he took the driving test, he was 
pretty sure he'd done okay, but still worried about it while he 
waited for the results.  That was another surprise: in the US they 
tell you immediately whether you passed or failed, but he had to 
wait five hours to find out.  As he put it, it was an "intense" five 
hours!

--snazzzybird, who is endlessly fascinated to hear how things are 
done in other countries




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 14:01:25 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:01:25 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8ml5j+jqtv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8nmfl+b31r@eGroups.com>


> Hi, Sue. My first post to this group. The HPfGU site seems stuck on
> SHIPping posts, so this seemed like a good time to try out JKR's site
> (and this group). I've been leaving up her main page, the links page,
> and the fan page by turns hoping to see the leaf, the feather, and the
> potion beaker, but no sign of any of them. Hey, at least I've seen
> what Peeves does on all those pages.
> 
> Carol, who has only *three* items in her scrapbook (from the spider,
> the medal, and the MAGIC phone call). (Are those the ones you have?
> What's your fourth?) C.

<Annemehr butts in>
Hi, Carol!  Don't dis the SHIPping posts -- skimming past them is
helping me catch up on my week's backlog!  Not that I mind them at
first, but they do seem to repeat the same things endlessly...

Anyway, the spider goes *with* the leaf, feather, and potion beaker:
once you've clicked all four of them, you automatically get a
scrapbook item.  Those three are not hard to find; I think you must
have clicked them already (because then they disappear).  

You say you have three items in your scrapbook -- look on the links
page.  Is there a box with a lock on it that you haven't opened?  When
you open that, you get a scrapbook item, too.

Annemehr





From jfaulkne at sas.upenn.edu  Sat May 22 16:26:33 2004
From: jfaulkne at sas.upenn.edu (Jen Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:26:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Driver's ed, sex ed (was Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my
 driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <c8neah+ksom@eGroups.com>
References: <c8neah+ksom@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0405221103280.7972@mail2.sas.upenn.edu>

On Sat, 22 May 2004, elfundeb2 wrote:

> What fun!  Driving test nostalgia!

Whee!  Yes! *g*

> It wasn't always this way.  I'm from New Jersey and got my license
> in the '70s.

I'm also from New Jersey, and I got my license a bit more recently ('96,
to be exact), a half-year after my 17th birthday (you could not get your
license until you were 17).

My school did not, in fact, offer driver's ed -- everyone took it
privately, to keep the already prohibitive insurance costs down,
nonetheless.  (NJ has, afaik, the highest auto insurance rates in the
US.)  Nor did, I believe, any of the surrounding towns.  So everyone
took it privately.

Basically, this boiled down to: you took the written test (required to
get your learner's permit, which I *believe* you could have at 16 1/2,
allowing you to drive with, hmm, any driver who'd had their license for
more than five years in the car) on your own, then signed up with one of
several local private companies for the driver's ed.  They actually
merely said that you'd been given classroom instruction (I never was),
and then did 6-8 hours in the car with you.  They mostly taught you how
to pass the test: what the instructors look for on each section (that
you looked before you pulled away from the hill, that you signaled
before beginning the K-[3-point-]turn, and so on).

That was all there was to it.  No highway instruction, and we certainly
spent most of the hours trying to convince me I wouldn't damage the
instructor's shiny red new sports car (you do the hours in their car)
while trying to parallel park between cones on a quiet street.  I am, in
fact, still rotten at and scared of parallel parking.  The test was on a
closed course, so they never had to see how you dealt with other cars,
merely that you could back up 50 feet, hold your hands at 10 and 2, all
that good stuff.

I actually ran the car off the road after parking on the hill (forgot to
turn the wheel back, because I was so busy signalling and looking, the
things you're graded on), and still passed, so really.  Anyone can. *g*

But despite the lack of driver's ed, we had an abundance of sex and drug
ed.  Our health curriculum from 7th-11th grade, for one marking period
(10 weeks) every year, consisted of about half sex ed and half
drug/alcohol ed.  I really had no idea until I got to college that not
everyone did that.  I found out in college (Rutgers, where I was with
mostly other NJ-high school grads, it being the state university) that
private schools didn't have to offer that sort of health class.  But I
was *really* shocked when I found out in grad school, sometime, I think,
that there are places that actually don't do that, other states and so
on.

Our health class was basically "You will ruin your life if you ever,
ever, ever touch drugs, alcohol, or another person, and hey, let's find
out why (so that maybe it won't happen)."  We learned to classify the
major illegal drugs by type, by effects on the body, by addictive
possibilities/withdrawal symptoms, and so on.  We learned
symptoms/treatments/prevention methods/methods of infection for every
major STD.  We learned about preventing pregnancy, over, and over, and
over again.  We learned about all the different stages/types of
alcoholism, as well as about things that could happen while you were
drinking/drunk, even if you weren't an alcoholic.  In 5th-7th grade, we
also covered puberty (and the basics of sex ed); in 11th grade Freudian
defense mechanisms, prejudice, and probably a few other topics like
that, plus, of course, good old sex and drugs.  12th grade was the only
really different year -- we got to do first aid that year (including
CPR, and a few peeps did do the extra work to certify in it), stress,
personality types, all kinds of fun things.  I think we actually
forewent drugs that year, though there was still sex ed.  Every year had
a lot of emphasis on how to combat/not give into peer pressure.

I've since gotten the feeling that other schools went much more with the
'sex and drugs are bad, m'kay?' approach, and that the *amount* of
information we were presented with is highly unusual. They gave us all
the information they could, really.  (My school did, to my personal
regret, not cover same-sex safer sex specifically -- the curriculum was
highly heterosexist--, but it may now.)  When I began the health
curriculum, in '90ish?, the district was unusual for teaching what it
did about AIDS; that it's not a gay disease, that it's only spread in
specific ways, and so on.  Only ten years after the disease's
identification, that was pretty rare (we were still being taught that it
had a 20 year period where the virus wouldn't show up on tests, then).
By the time I graduated high school ('96), of course, it was common to
teach those sorts of things, but even when I was in middle school, they
were serious about keeping the students, all of them, safe.

They really did teach us *why* you should be sensible about certain
things, whether it's STDs or pregnancy or drugs or alcohol.  And they
didn't do that just by horror stories of "Janey got hooked on heroine
and then she got pregnant and then she dropped out of college and
*died*!"  They really did their best to combat teenagers' natural "That
would never happen to *me*"  attitude; the worse the stories are, the
more the kids can say, "Oh, well, that won't happen to me, since I'm
just doing [X]."

We learned a lot about assessing risks, getting information to allow
people to decide for themselves which ones were and weren't worth
taking, by knowing what really *was* a possible/likely consequence and
what wasn't, as well as what you can do to minimize risks.  They were
honest about things like which STDs are curable with antibiotics (and
which aren't), what the failure rates for certain types of birth control
are, how addictive, and in what ways, certain illegal drugs are, as well
as what they feel like when you're on them.  They were honest about what
the dangers -- legally, physically, socially -- of teenage/adult
drinking are.  They only tried to scare us in so far as these things
*are* all scary.  And most of the kids I knew respected the information
all the more for that -- and took it that much more seriously.  Did it
prevent any of my friends from drinking or having sex?  No.  Did they
know how to protect themselves as much as possible when they did?  Yes.

As I think only the second is a worthwhile goal, I think they did a
*really* good job.

David made an interesting point about the proportions/commonality of
driver's ed to sex ed showing that American parents are more afraid of
the possible bad consequences of sex vs. driving.  I think, David,
you're right in many respects that we emotionally regard sex as more
inherently dangerous, but part of that is the necessity of one vs. the
other.  In most American towns -- not cities -- public transportation
simply isn't sufficient to allow one to not drive as an adult.  The
lives of those who cannot drive (my gf is one) are often circumscribed
by that lack.  Even in a city, it limits what one can do; I live in an
area that has a lot of public transportation, relatively, and I could
still never work my current job if I didn't have a car.

Given that, you certainly want to make driving as safe as possible, but
much of the risk cannot be prevented: accidents are often not the
driver's fault (they were the fault of the other driver, or not
preventable at all).  One does one's best, but (and having had one bad
accident, it took me a long time to accept this and start driving again)
at some point, you just have to accept that you will take that risk, and
*not* think about it, because otherwise, well, you won't be driving.

Sex is similar, but in large part the negative consequences are
preventable: many STDs and unintended pregnancies *can* be prevented,
almost entirely.  And assuming one is speaking only of consensual sex,
you have to *do* something to have those consequences occur -- it's
never someone else's fault in the same way as a car accident.  It's more
like, say, not wearing your seatbelt and hitting the windshield of a
car.  It could have been prevented by you.  So too with pregnancy and
STDs.  Methods aren't perfect (comdoms break, and so on), but if proper
effective precautions (not, e.g, the rhythm method of birth control!)
are taken, you might as well worry about lightning strikes and other
unavoidable dangers of living as sex.  You take responsibility for what
you can control, and accept the rest.

And too, sex is not necessary in quite the same way as driving, so many
Americans would like to prevent it outside of completely safe
circumstances (i.e.  marriage), anyway.  I think they're wrong, but,
well, there are those who'd like to have us all use public
transportation, too, and they would disapprove of my hour commute to my
job. *g*  It's not a daily necessity (despite what some people think),
so one should not be willing to accept the same level of risk as with
driving.  If, for instance, any risk at all there be considered
unacceptable by an individual, s/he can choose not to have sex; you can
stop the behavior as a whole with much greater ease than driving.

The same is true for drugs/alcohol.  If an individual considers the
legal/physical/social risks of drugs/alcohol as too high, s/he can again
choose not to engage in the behavior (of drinking or taking other drugs)
at all.  Many Americans now put smoking into this category, as it is
considered a behavior too socially/physically risky to engage in at all;
education of both children and adults has brought about that change in
attitude.  And again, there is no necessity for the behavior comparable
to that of driving.

Nor does that sort of thing need to be taught just once, as in a way
driver's ed really only does.  By emphasizing sex ed (particularly of
the sort I had, that really does teach about safer sex, and what you
*can* do to minimize risks of negative consequences) with repetition and
length of time, it's more likely that the lessons there (don't have
unprotected sex with people whose sexual histories you don't know!  In
fact, don't have unprotected sex at all!) will sink in to a
non-conscious level-- and with that sort of thing, the more automatic a
response you can create, the more likely it is that people will not
engage in truly risky behaviors, since you have to combat everyone's
natural urge to forget caution in moments of, ahem, emotional
excitement.  Driving *is* inherently and inevitably dangerous; sex need
not be so (to the same degree).  And I think most American
schools/parents recognize that, and echo it in the proportion of
driver's ed to sex/drug ed.

Or, well, mine did, anyway.

And yes, I'm finished now. *g*

--Jen, the long-winded :)

* * * * * *
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http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jfaulkne/fan/hp.html
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Yes, I *am* the Deictrix.



From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 17:19:15 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:19:15 -0000
Subject: Driver's ed, sex ed (was Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've failed my driving test!)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0405221103280.7972@mail2.sas.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <c8o22j+mtq6@eGroups.com>

Really interesting post, Jen.  I like your analysis.  But I'm curious
about one thing:

> Methods aren't perfect (comdoms break, and so on), but if proper
> effective precautions (not, e.g, the rhythm method of birth control!)
> are taken, you might as well worry about lightning strikes and other
> unavoidable dangers of living as sex.

Did they ever mention *modern* methods of natural birth control? 
Because I've never heard of any sex ed that did.  The rhythm method is
1930s (or earlier?) technology -- critiquing that is like using the
Model T to explain the risks of driving.

I like the modern method because I know what's going on with my body,
and it's good for getting pregnant when you want or showing when there
might be something wrong.  It's no use for preventing diseases, of
course, but if you're married, and don't like the thought of taking
hormones all the time, it has advantages that no other method does.  I
resent the fact that I never heard of it for *years* after I'd had all
my sex ed (back in the '70s), especially because that silence was
ideological, from people whose purported purpose was to give students
all the info they needed to make an informed decision.  Can you say
"hypocrisy?"

Okay, rant over!

Annemehr





From mcdee1980 at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 16:54:58 2004
From: mcdee1980 at yahoo.com (mcdee1980)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:54:58 -0000
Subject: I've failed my driving test!
In-Reply-To: <c8ivqq+59g8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8o0l2+mcut@eGroups.com>

Ahh I remember Driver's Ed . . . I grew up in New Jersey and the 
rules have changed since then.  Today you cannot get a lic. until you 
turn 18, same is true for NYC.  NJ's requirements sound pretty much 
the same as those in the UK.  We had to pass a written test with at 
least an 80% to get a 1 year learner permit at the age of 16, which 
was followed by a mandatory 6 hours of behind the wheel with an 
instructor.  That was done on our own, out of pocket.  On your 17th 
birthday you took the Dept of Motor Vehicles test. The NJ test is a 
course not on real streets and the maximum speed limit on the course 
is 15mph.  IMO not a real good test due to the fact that nowhere in 
NJ is the speed limit 15.  During the test you may fail only one of 
the following required tasks, however if you or the instructor is not 
wearing a seatbelt you fail automatically: parallel parking, three 
point turn, left turn, right turn, stop sign, stop line, speed limit, 
and backing up in a straight line.  I still cannot back up in a 
straight line many years later :)!  Having moved to the City That 
Care Forgot, I have given up my car and instead drive a bright pink 
bicycle with a big basket!  Given the cost of gas and car insurence, 
I feel like I'm playing a big joke on everyone who drives an SUV!
Lady McBeth   





From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 21:51:07 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:51:07 -0000
Subject: Transportation and Bicycles.... (was: calif...)
In-Reply-To: <c8ms5f+dqtd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8oi0b+95l4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Beth" <jillily3g at y...> wrote:
>
> ...edited...
> 
> Incidentally, my husband recently returned from a trip to Sweden and 
> was impressed by the number of bicycles everywhere and still shaking 
> his head over the fact that his host families would sometimes stop 
> in the middle of the highway and back up to turn around. With gas 
> prices climbing (although not nearly as high as there, he keeps 
> pointing out), it would be wonderful if we could rely on bikes for 
> transportation more often. However, I don't think our lives nor our 
> city are structured in such a way to make it a practical solution. 
> 
> Beth

bboy_mn:

Way off the orginal subject and speaking of bicycles, I noticed
something in my local area recently that I hadn't seen before. Many
public buses in the Twin Cities (MN) are equipped with bicycle racks. 

You ride your bike to the bus stop, and when the bus stops for you,
you attach you bike to the front of the bus. At your destination stop,
you remove your bike and are on your merry way.

I think that's a very brilliant idea myself. I can't imagine why it
took so long for someone to think of it.

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn




From hgranger919 at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 22:24:04 2004
From: hgranger919 at yahoo.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Transportation and Bicycles.... (was: calif...)
Message-ID: <20040522222404.12085.qmail@web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com>

MessageThey're been doing this in Portland, Oregon for years with great success. You can also carry your bike with you on the Light Rail lines.
 
Suzanne
  
bboy_mn:

Way off the orginal subject and speaking of   bicycles, I noticed
something in my local area recently that I hadn't seen   before. Many
public buses in the Twin Cities (MN) are equipped with bicycle   racks. 

You ride your bike to the bus stop, and when the bus stops for   you,
you attach you bike to the front of the bus. At your destination   stop,
you remove your bike and are on your merry way.

I think that's   a very brilliant idea myself. I can't imagine why it
took so long for   someone to think of it.

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn

		
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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 03:31:50 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Transportation and Bicycles.... (was: calif...)
In-Reply-To: <20040522222404.12085.qmail@web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040523033150.38350.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com>

> bboy_mn:
> 
> Way off the orginal subject and speaking of  
> bicycles, I noticed
> something in my local area recently that I hadn't
> seen   before. Many
> public buses in the Twin Cities (MN) are equipped
> with bicycle   racks. 
> 
> You ride your bike to the bus stop, and when the bus
> stops for   you,
> you attach you bike to the front of the bus. At your
> destination   stop,
> you remove your bike and are on your merry way.
> 
> I think that's   a very brilliant idea myself. I
> can't imagine why it
> took so long for   someone to think of it.

We have that here in Ottawa, as well. It was a
blessing to my husband yesterday when he had an
incredibly long ride ahead of him (about 4 hours). He
used the bus to get a little closer to his destination
before riding out of town.

Sheryll

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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 23 06:03:31 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 06:03:31 -0000
Subject: Oh, Dear Sweet God
In-Reply-To: <c8e0aa+92mr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8perj+gnph@eGroups.com>

imamommy:

Sounds like a load of waffle to me.  I think I missed the point
completely.  These two series have no connection, and nothing to do
with one another.  

OR DO THEY?

imamommy
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "abigailnus" <abigailnus at y...>
wrote:
> Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.  
> 
> There's an article on Slate plotting the similarities between Harry 
> Potter and the Left Behind series.  The author concludes that the 
> two series are very much alike because they share such 
> distinguishing characteristics as - wait for it! - the struggle 
> between good and evil.  Because we've never read a story about 
> that before.  
> 
> In the end, he does try to differentiate between the two, saying that 
> 
> "In that sense, despite their similarities, at their hearts the two
series 
> are different in a fundamental but not obvious way. Left Behind is 
>      istic; Harry Potter sees outcome determined by individual actions. 
> Both provide a roadmap for how to live a good life, but in one case 
> the key is morality, and in the other it is faith."
> 
> Which just means that he had a point to make and decided to use not 
> one but two pop culture juggernauts to help him make it.
> 
> I swear, there are days when I really wish these books weren't as 
> popular as they are.
> 
> You can read the whole ridiculous thing here:
> http://slate.msn.com/id/2100637/
> 
> Abigail




From bogodeknovill at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 06:19:57 2004
From: bogodeknovill at yahoo.com (Mimi Barker)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 06:19:57 -0000
Subject: the butterfly
In-Reply-To: <c88oq1+tcb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8pfqd+ae3f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:

> 
> Besides the wrist watch on the desk picking up the time from my PC,
> the windows in the ? room show either a day or a night scene. Has
> anyone noticed whether the butterfly on the desk -- blue now, blue
> when I started yesterday, yellow in-between -- changes blue -> 
yellow
> for day -> night? Unlike Vinnie, I am not agile enough to catch the
> butterfly.

I think it is a butterfly by day and is replaced by a moth at night. 
Not sure of the significance except a clever way to emphasize that 
her site recognizes what time it is where you are.





From jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 23 09:06:16 2004
From: jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk (jojobinks1983)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:06:16 -0000
Subject: Website again
Message-ID: <c8ppi8+tjjr@eGroups.com>

Hi, just to make sure, are the rumour and news sections meant to be 
blank after i click on them?

Thanks, Jo




From ekrbdg at msn.com  Sun May 23 12:03:08 2004
From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 08:03:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] the butterfly
References: <c8pfqd+ae3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <04cc01c440bd$eb530660$5de0f943@hppav>

 >
> I think it is a butterfly by day and is replaced by a moth at night.
> Not sure of the significance except a clever way to emphasize that
> her site recognizes what time it is where you are.
>
>
>

*Kimberly's comment*
That would make it a "Lunar" moth, right ?     Maybe it's a clue related to
Luna Lovegood.

Kimberly


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From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 23 14:20:07 2004
From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 14:20:07 -0000
Subject: Oh, Dear Sweet God
In-Reply-To: <c8perj+gnph@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8qbun+vrj3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> 
wrote:
> imamommy:
> 
> Sounds like a load of waffle to me.  I think I missed the point
> completely.  These two series have no connection, and nothing to do
> with one another.  
> 
> OR DO THEY?
> 
> imamommy
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "abigailnus" 
<abigailnus at y...>
> wrote:
> > Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.  
> > 
> > There's an article on Slate plotting the similarities between 
Harry 
> > Potter and the Left Behind series.  The author concludes that the 
> > two series are very much alike because they share such 
> > distinguishing characteristics as - wait for it! - the struggle 
> > between good and evil.  Because we've never read a story about 
> > that before.  
> > 
> > In the end, he does try to differentiate between the two, saying 
that 
> > 
> > "In that sense, despite their similarities, at their hearts the 
two
> series 
> > are different in a fundamental but not obvious way. Left Behind 
is 
> >      istic; Harry Potter sees outcome determined by individual 
actions. 
> > Both provide a roadmap for how to live a good life, but in one 
case 
> > the key is morality, and in the other it is faith."
> > 
> > Which just means that he had a point to make and decided to use 
not 
> > one but two pop culture juggernauts to help him make it.
> > 
> > I swear, there are days when I really wish these books weren't as 
> > popular as they are.
> > 
> > You can read the whole ridiculous thing here:
> > http://slate.msn.com/id/2100637/
> > 
> > Abigail

Abigail,

Which books, out of curiosity? Harry Potter or Left Behind?

As I recall from reading the article a week or so ago, the writer 
skewed the article rather neatly by only giving examples of 
similarities instead of differences (and the similarities were very 
trivial at that). He also plays it safe by being very vague, which is 
100 % failsafe, just like applying elements of The Hero's Journey, 
but not very informative and very much open to interpretation. How 
many times does the "lose a mentor" motive play out in OoP, for 
instance? First Dumbledore doesn't talk to Harry, then everyone in 
the Order refuse to answer his deepest questions, then Arthur almost 
dies, then Dumbledore has to leave the school, James and Sirius turn 
out to have been bullies in school with Remus doing nothing to stop 
them, Snape stops giving Harry occlumency lessons, and finally Sirius 
dies.

Oh well. Perhaps this article makes someone in the "Harry Potter is 
the work of the devil" crowd come to see the light.

Alshain       




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun May 23 15:02:32 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 23 May 2004 15:02:32 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1085324552.34.52582.m20@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, May 23, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi everyone! 

Don't forget, chat happens today, 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 7
pm UK time. Chat times do not change for Daylight Saving/Summer
Time.  Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.

Go into any Yahoo chat room and type:  /join HP:1 

Hope to see you there! 

 





From naama2486 at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 16:30:11 2004
From: naama2486 at yahoo.com (Amanar)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:30:11 -0000
Subject: Choose Your Own Damn Harry Potter Adventure
Message-ID: <c8qjij+ac20@eGroups.com>

A cute little HP quest. Sense of humour is a must:

http://www.brunching.com/chooseharry.html




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 17:07:42 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 13:07:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Belated Birthday Wishes x 3!
Message-ID: <20040523170742.41302.qmail@web41114.mail.yahoo.com>

*hobbles into the room with a cane, slowly dragging
the decorations box with her free hand*

Injury has delayed my being here to help celebrate the
recent birthdays. Sincere apologies from the
temporarily disabled Birthday Elf.

Friday's birthday honouree was Mirzam Black and
yesterday's honourees were Lilibet and Jen Piersol.
Belated Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or
directly to Mirzam at: mirzamblack at yahoo.com
to Lilibet at: lilibetlilibet at yahoo.com
and to Jen at JenP_97 at yahoo.com

I hope you all have magical days, filled with fun and
friends.

Happy Birthday, Mirzam!
Happy Birthday, Lilibet!
Happy Birthday, Jen!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, retiring to the sofa to rest
a severely sprained ankle

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From abigailnus at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 19:34:25 2004
From: abigailnus at yahoo.com (abigailnus)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:34:25 -0000
Subject: Oh, Dear Sweet God
In-Reply-To: <c8qbun+vrj3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8quc1+4c7l@eGroups.com>

I (Abigail) wrote:
> > > I swear, there are days when I really wish these books weren't as 
> > > popular as they are.
> > > 
 
And Alshain queried:
> Which books, out of curiosity? Harry Potter or Left Behind?

Well, at the time I was referring to Harry Potter, because it gets rather 
tiring to see the series constantly trotted out whenever someone has a 
point to make about pop-culture, or when they want an easy target or 
a way to boost their ratings.  I also with the LB series weren't so popular, 
but for completely different reasons.

> 
> As I recall from reading the article a week or so ago, the writer 
> skewed the article rather neatly by only giving examples of 
> similarities instead of differences (and the similarities were very 
> trivial at that). He also plays it safe by being very vague, which is 
> 100 % failsafe, just like applying elements of The Hero's Journey, 
> but not very informative and very much open to interpretation. 

Yup, yup.  Slate doesn't take letters to the editor, but I had an 
overwhelming urge to write in and point out that there was a 
similarity the author had missed.  Both series are printed!  On paper!  
Also, some of his canon examples from HP were so off-base that it 
wasn't even funny.  Apparently, Harry and Cho's budding relationship 
didn't tank because she's emotionally damaged and he's immature.  
It was because Harry was too busy fighting Voldemort.  Whatever.

> 
> Oh well. Perhaps this article makes someone in the "Harry Potter is 
> the work of the devil" crowd come to see the light.

It didn't occur to me until long after I posted my original message that 
the author of the article might have thought he was giving HP props.  
Sort of a shout-out to LB readers - 'See?  This Potter series is just like 
this other series that you like!  It isn't evil!'  Of course, this is only 
flattering if you don't think LB is an awful series and actually want to 
court the fundamentalist, HP-burning demographic.  Admittedly, I 
haven't read the LB books, but from what I've heard about them and the 
excepts I've seen, I wouldn't like HP to be mentioned in the same 
sentence as them.

Abigail

P.S. Speaking of LB, there's a weblogger who for the last few months has 
been making a page-by-page review of the first book, primarily from a 
Christian viewpoint.  It's very interesting, especially to someone who 
doesn't know much about Christianity.  You can find the entire series 
here (start at the bottom):
http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/index.html




From catlady at wicca.net  Sun May 23 19:42:32 2004
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:42:32 -0000
Subject: Website again
In-Reply-To: <c8ppi8+tjjr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8qur8+ujue@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jojobinks1983"
<jojobinks1983 at y...> wrote:
> Hi, just to make sure, are the rumour and news sections meant to be 
> blank after i click on them?

No. When one clicks on the news paper, the little opening window-thing
is supposed to happen and turn into the newspaper spread open on top
of the desk with three headlines on the left hand page: 
1) Forged JKR signatures
2) Mugglenet Chat
3) Progress on Book 6

and the right-hand page opens as an article on Forged JKR signatures
but will turn to the other articles if you click on their headlines.

The "Close" icon is in the upper right corner of the desk.

When you click on the tabloid, the little opening window-thing is
supposed to happen and the tabloid spreads open on top of the desk as
big as the newspaper did. The left-hand page is head GOSSIP and lists
so many articles it already has a scroll bar. The right hand page is
labelled Exclusive and contains JKR's denials. 

It is thought that some of the denials are cunningly worded. For example:

Rumor: Professor Dumbledore is Harry's real grandfather / close
relative of some description.

Denial: If Dumbledore had been Harry's grandfather, why on earth would
he have been sent to live with the Dursleys?

Me: If Dumbledore were Harry's relative on the Potter side, then his
dwelling would not be eligible as a place where Lily Evans's blood
dwelt, needed for the protective spell.




From nakedkali at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 21:11:11 2004
From: nakedkali at yahoo.com (Sea Change)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:11:11 -0000
Subject: The lightswitch
In-Reply-To: <c8e46d+uhhc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8r41f+pkdn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jmjklj" <kathryn-jones at c...>
wrote:  

[snip]

Kathryn wrote:

K> Has anyone figured out the light/power switch next to the phone?  It 
K> appears to be for an unseen lamp.  I turned it on, thinking it would 
K> help "her" write.  I also keep turning off the music!
 
[snip]

____________



Sea Change responds:

There is a room with a window that looks at the moon, has a locked
door, and has a mirror in it.  If you look in the mirror, you can see
that one of the sconces has a lit candle.  Or, at least it is lit on
my computer.

I haven't spotted the switch you mention, but since the candlesconce
you see in the mirror is not manipulatable by touching the mirror, and
the page doesn't allow you to turn around then a switch in another
room might control it.



Sea Change, who regrets that the JKR pages are very hard to disguise
at work




From eloiseherisson at aol.com  Mon May 24 06:01:43 2004
From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 06:01:43 -0000
Subject: The lightswitch
In-Reply-To: <c8r41f+pkdn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8s347+uape@eGroups.com>

Kathryn wrote:
> 
> K> Has anyone figured out the light/power switch next to the 
phone?  It 
> K> appears to be for an unseen lamp.  I turned it on, thinking it 
would 
> K> help "her" write.  I also keep turning off the music!
>  
> [snip]
> 
> ____________
> 
> 
> 
> Sea Change responds:
<snip> 
> I haven't spotted the switch you mention, but since the candlesconce
> you see in the mirror is not manipulatable by touching the mirror, 
and
> the page doesn't allow you to turn around then a switch in another
> room might control it.


The switch Kathryn refers to is the switch of a desklamp, situated 
between the phone and the keyboard on the desk. It will switch on and 
off by clicking either at the top or bottom (like pressing on either 
end of a real rocker switch) but the change in illumination is very 
slight. Switching it on doesn't seem to do anything else, as far as I 
can see.

~Eloise




From lilibetlilibet at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 07:57:34 2004
From: lilibetlilibet at yahoo.com (lilibetlilibet)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:57:34 -0000
Subject: Sorry about your sprained ankle SheryllElf
Message-ID: <c8s9te+vo3u@eGroups.com>

    I was feeling a little over looked as the 22 was my birthday and 
there was no notice, cake or cheers. I know how you must feel. I 
fractured my leg on the 20th. An Incredible flying bicycle (tricycle) 
accident. Don't ask. Is 56 to old for this Kind of thing?
Thank you for the Belated wishes.  Wish you well soon.   Lilibet




From Meliss9900 at aol.com  Mon May 24 14:18:46 2004
From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:18:46 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 1511
Message-ID: <3e.3f65aa80.2de35e46@aol.com>

In a message dated 05/24/2004 3:54:16 AM Central Daylight Time, 
HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes:


> Me: If Dumbledore were Harry's relative on the Potter side, then his
> dwelling would not be eligible as a place where Lily Evans's blood
> dwelt, needed for the protective spell.
> 

The protective spell was needed because Harry didn't have any living 
relatives other than Petunia, we have no way of knowing if the spell would been needed 
if Harry had living paternal relatives.  

I tend to believe that JKR is being truthful when she tells us in Book 1 that 
the Dursleys are Harry's only living relatives.  





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From wgouine1 at mac.com  Mon May 24 12:28:55 2004
From: wgouine1 at mac.com (Peter Paul)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:28:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The lightswitch
In-Reply-To: <c8s347+uape@eGroups.com>
References: <c8s347+uape@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EC853791-AD7D-11D8-9FAD-0003935103DC@mac.com>

eloise_herisson wrote:
> It will switch on and off by clicking either at the top or bottom 
> (like pressing on either end of a real rocker switch) but the 
> change in illumination is very slight.


I wonder if it is the phone charger?

"Peter"




From jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon May 24 17:30:52 2004
From: jojobinks1983 at yahoo.co.uk (jojobinks1983)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:30:52 -0000
Subject: Website again
In-Reply-To: <c8qur8+ujue@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8tbgc+5h8g@eGroups.com>

"Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:
> When one clicks on the news paper, the little opening window-
> thing is supposed to happen and turn into the newspaper spread 
> open on top of the desk with three headlines on the left hand page: 
> 1) Forged JKR signatures
> 2) Mugglenet Chat
> 3) Progress on Book 6
> 
> and the right-hand page opens as an article on Forged JKR signatures
> but will turn to the other articles if you click on their headlines.
<snip>

Mine doesn't do that, what am I doing wrong? Or has anyone got the 
link to the non-flash site?

Thanks Jo





From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 21:20:01 2004
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Getting an Israeli driver's license
Message-ID: <20040524212001.26792.qmail@web40005.mail.yahoo.com>

24May04
 

snazzzybird wrote:
"My son just got his Israeli driver's license a little over a week ago...--snazzzybird, who is endlessly fascinated to hear how things are
done in other countries"

 
Paula now:
Gee, I picked up this thread late.  But since I've been living in Israel for about 13 years, just had to respond.  I just moved from Jerusalem to a small northern Negev town.  I've never attempted driving here, but have always risked my life as a pedestrian.  In spite of what you're taught in driving lessons, no one has ever stopped, at least for me, while I stood and waited to cross in Jerusalem's crosswalks.  But, miracle of miracles, my first day here, every single car stopped and allow me to cross the street, and this has continued to happen!  Glad to see that somewhere our tough driving standards are being upheld.  But, on the other hand, have a feeling that a lot of good wizards are living here in the Negev.  I'm almost sure I saw a Quidditch field out of the corner of my eye...
 
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From antigone_q at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 21:08:22 2004
From: antigone_q at yahoo.com (Rebecca D.)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:08:22 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c8cg6e+bnfh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8to86+eb49@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley" 
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:

> Also, am I right in thinking that nobody has yet legitimately 
opened 
> that door you get from the hairband?  The hack-in solution 
involving 
> the /flash url doesn't work for me.
> 
> And the fans site*s* part seems only to mention one site 
> (Immeritus) - is that correct?
> 
> Finally, it seems (from people's comments) that no significant 
part 
> of the site requires you to have sound on your computer - is that 
> right?  I can't turn it on here.
> 

Hi! I'm new - but I couldn't keep quiet about the site questions.

Re: the door.  Rowling said "regular visitors" would be able to get 
hints about book six, and "patience is the key."  When I viewed the 
source it said "re-visit in 7 days."  I thought I'd try back seven 
days from the first time I opened the page and see if anything had 
changed.  So if my theory is correct, the door wouldn't even have 
been working before the 22nd or so.

I still can't make the phone work.  I'm not sure what to do next: I 
tried dialing in some of the numbers from the "extras" page but no 
luck.  A hint would help...

Antigone Q.





From entropymail at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 00:03:52 2004
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:03:52 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c8to86+eb49@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8u2h8+mqkk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Rebecca D." <antigone_q at y...>
wrote:
> I still can't make the phone work.  I'm not sure what to do next: I 
> tried dialing in some of the numbers from the "extras" page but no 
> luck.  A hint would help...
> 
> Antigone Q.

Hint:  Think about the only time we've seen Arthur use a "fellytone".




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 06:00:41 2004
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:00:41 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8nmfl+b31r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8une9+o1g6@eGroups.com>

Annemehr wrote:
> Hi, Carol! 
> Anyway, the spider goes *with* the leaf, feather, and potion beaker:
> once you've clicked all four of them, you automatically get a
> scrapbook item.  Those three are not hard to find; I think you must
> have clicked them already (because then they disappear).  
> 
> You say you have three items in your scrapbook -- look on the links
> page.  Is there a box with a lock on it that you haven't opened? 
When you open that, you get a scrapbook item, too.

Carol responds:
Thanks, Annemehr! I guess I did accidentally click on the feather and
the beaker, and I remember something vanishing from the bulletin
board, so that must have been the leaf. And I have one item from
clicking the medal in the trophy room and one from calling the DoM.
But I can't get the locked box to open. It's as "stuck" as the door in
the "?" room, which, oddly enough, looks like a front door with a view
of the outside.

I have her site open to the Links page (I heard Peeves come by as I
typed this post), but still the locked box won't open.

Any suggestions?

Carol




From earendil_fr at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 08:11:43 2004
From: earendil_fr at yahoo.com (earendil_fr)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:11:43 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8une9+o1g6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8uv3v+e5nv@eGroups.com>

Carol wrote:
> I have her site open to the Links page (I heard Peeves come by as I
> typed this post), but still the locked box won't open.
> 
> Any suggestions?

Earendil:
Try dragging the book with a question mark to the side...


Earendil.





From antigone_q at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 02:14:42 2004
From: antigone_q at yahoo.com (Rebecca D.)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 02:14:42 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c8u2h8+mqkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8ua6i+ujr2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "entropymail" 
<entropymail at y...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hint:  Think about the only time we've seen Arthur use 
a "fellytone".

Oh! Got it! Thank you so much!!!

A.Q.





From phil_hp7 at hotmail.com  Tue May 25 09:48:18 2004
From: phil_hp7 at hotmail.com (Phil Boswell)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:48:18 -0000
Subject: Official Site
Message-ID: <c8v4p2+gpt6@eGroups.com>

I tried sending this to the main group, and for obvious reasons it was
bounced back to me. I have some further comments of my own on it
already.

ATTN Debbie Elf: I have apologised OOB for the tone of my reply; I
hope you understand my explanation for what was intended to be a
humourous thank-you but turned out looking horrendously rude.

I wrote:
> I was wondering whether anyone else has had much success ferreting 
> out the secrets on the new official web site at
> http://www.jkrowling.com/
> 
> I have found the first two scrapbook entries, but there are still 
> some strange goings-on which have me puzzled. I will do my best to 
> avoid spoiling it for first-timers :-)

Thanks to copious help from this group, I have now found *four*
scrapbook entries: is that the lot so far?

> First off, was it supposed to forget who I was over the weekend? I 
> had to go back and re-find the first scrapbook entry, whereas my
> impression had been that it would be remembered for me.

This seems to have sorted itself out although I can't find any cookies
to explain why.

> Is the "light switch" on the main desk any more than just that?
> Has anyone caught that blasted butterfly yet? Even more so the
> house-fly which moves even quicker?
> Has anyone opened the door? or is that a puzzle waiting for clues 
> to be supplied?

I tried the "back door" method someone suggested and got nowhere:
presumably this has now been fixed :-)

> Who *is* that calling on the mobile phone?

Someone said it was JKR: doesn't sound anywhere near old enough to me,
could it be "Fiddy"?

> What's with the moveable coins? Are they supposed to trigger 
> something or are they just to annoy habitual frobnicators like me? 
> [and before you hide the children, no that's not a *naughty* word, 
> it's just rather silly: look it up if you don't believe me :-]

Again with help from this group I have figured out the coins.

Oh, and "frobnicate" is indeed a real word, and no, it's not rude at
all.

> Is there something going on with the watch? I thought I caught it
> doing something but it doesn't respond to clicking or anything. 
> Having said which, that is a *very* peculiar watch: take a close 
> look at the dial!

What I said before. When Peeves and the Doxy pull their little tricks,
the watch changes, and the odd thing is that in at least one sense it
becomes rather more normal.

HAND
-- 
Phil
Rather wishing he'd just said "thanks" to Debbie Elf, and not tried to
be funny :-(





From stanleys at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 25 22:00:04 2004
From: stanleys at sbcglobal.net (suehpfan)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:00:04 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8ml5j+jqtv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c90fl4+4hig@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> > Okay, Pippin.  You are a better person than I if you got anything 
> > from our cheering charm creator.  I have stared at that 
characature 
> > for hours and though some very interesting things have happened 
> > behind him (the watch, the phone, that very large bug), I cannot 
for 
> > the life of me click on anything that will do anything else.  If 
you 
> > have one, I could use another cough, hint, cough!
> > 
> > BTW... does anyone have any more than four things in their 
scrapbook?
> > 
> > Thank you graciously for any help.
> > 
> > Sue (hpfan) who is horribly annoyed at her own computer 
disabilities!
> 
> 
> Hi, Sue. My first post to this group. The HPfGU site seems stuck on
> SHIPping posts, so this seemed like a good time to try out JKR's 
site
> (and this group). I've been leaving up her main page, the links 
page,
> and the fan page by turns hoping to see the leaf, the feather, and 
the
> potion beaker, but no sign of any of them. Hey, at least I've seen
> what Peeves does on all those pages.
> 
> Carol, who has only *three* items in her scrapbook (from the spider,
> the medal, and the MAGIC phone call). (Are those the ones you have?
> What's your fourth?) C.

Hey Carol,

I feel your pain on the main board.  I have gotten so overwhelmed 
with the sheer quantity of posts and how so many of them seem to 
revolve around the same few questions, I've gotten a little tired of 
the whole thing!  

You have probably solved all of this already, but...use the eraser on 
the blank paper (on the bulletin board) it will help you find the 
fourth.

Hope you're doing well!

Sue




From coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 02:32:21 2004
From: coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com (coolbeans3131)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 02:32:21 -0000
Subject: Gas prices
Message-ID: <c90vjl+s5fs@eGroups.com>

Here's a site you can go to to find the cheapest gas prices in your 
area.  www.GasBuddy.com  Gas where I live (Rochester, NY area) is 
currently about $2.13 a gallon.  What is it where you all live?

Joj





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 05:40:22 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 01:40:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Charis Julia!
Message-ID: <20040526054022.90588.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>

*surveys the decorated room with satisfaction, adds
one last bunch of balloons and slowly heads off to
find the cake*

I know it's still the 25th somewhere in here in
Canada, so I'm technically not late yet with today's
greeting!

Today's birthday honouree is Charis Julia. Birthday
owls can be sent care of this list or directly to:
charisjulia at hotmail.com

I hope you've had a day filled with joy, magic and the
company of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Charis Julia!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From udderpd at yahoo.co.uk  Wed May 26 06:13:50 2004
From: udderpd at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?udder=5Fpen=5Fdragon?=)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:13:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gas prices US and UK
In-Reply-To: <c90vjl+s5fs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040526061350.71014.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's a site you can go to to find the cheapest gas prices in your 
area. www.GasBuddy.com Gas where I live (Rochester, NY area) is 
currently about $2.13 a gallon. What is it where you all live?

Joj


UdderPD

Just for interest. 

The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx ?0.82 per litre this converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.

Udder PenDragon


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed May 26 06:50:03 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:50:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gas prices US and UK
References: <20040526061350.71014.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <019701c442ed$ae798b60$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Joj wrote:

<Here's a site you can go to to find the
cheapest gas prices in your
area.  www.GasBuddy.com  Gas where I live
(Rochester, NY area) is
currently about $2.13 a gallon.  What is it
where you all live?>

Here in Oregon (Roseburg to be exact) gas is
running at 2.37$ a gallon and rising nearly
every bloody day.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Wed May 26 12:59:31 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:59:31 -0000
Subject: Gas prices US and UK
In-Reply-To: <20040526061350.71014.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c924bj+hh3t@eGroups.com>

> coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at y...> wrote:
> Here's a site you can go to to find the cheapest gas prices in 
your 
> area. www.GasBuddy.com Gas where I live (Rochester, NY area) is 
> currently about $2.13 a gallon. What is it where you all live?

 
> UdderPD 
> Just for interest. 
> 
> The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx ?0.82 per 
litre this converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.


Jen: I paid $1.97 a gallon the other day in Austin, Texas, and 
thought that was high, but not now! 




From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 14:49:46 2004
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:49:46 -0000
Subject: Gas prices US and UK
In-Reply-To: <c924bj+hh3t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c92aqa+hci7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...>
wrote:
> > coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at y...> wrote:

> > 
> > The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx ?0.82
per 
> litre this converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.
> 
> 
> Jen: I paid $1.97 a gallon the other day in Austin, Texas, and 
> thought that was high, but not now!

Yeah... every time I think about complaining about gas prices, I just
think about how much everyone else pays for gas, and then I know I
have no right to complain.

Then I think about getting out my bicycle.

Of course, I'm to lazy to actually ride my bike anywhere.  Now, get me
to the gym and I'll pedal nowhere for 20 miles... 

-Jen, who has decided with her hubby that their next car will be a
hybrid, no matter what gas prices are...

ps.  Our lowest price here is $2.35/gal




From arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com  Wed May 26 15:22:37 2004
From: arrowsmithbt at btconnect.com (arrowsmithbt)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:22:37 -0000
Subject: Something odd on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <c90fl4+4hig@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c92cnt+qu6v@eGroups.com>


Second time of posting; the first one obviously eaten
by Yahoo!Mort.

If you go to the Links page on JKR's site, open the
volume 'Publishers' and scroll down to 'Ukraine',
there's a very strange entry which sure as hell isn't
a publishers address.

Anyone got any ideas what it means?

Kneasy




From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Wed May 26 15:38:38 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:38:38 +0100
Subject: Something odd on JKR's site
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15AD0D98@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,
 
<arrowsmithbt>If you go to the Links page on JKR's site, open the volume
'Publishers' and scroll down to 'Ukraine', there's a very strange entry
which sure as hell isn't a publishers address.</arrowsmithbt>
 
Spookily, A-Ba-Ba-Ha-La-Ma-Ha is a children's book publisher:
 
http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2002/020202.shtml
<http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2002/020202.shtml> 
http://tinyurl.com/28uyq <http://tinyurl.com/28uyq> 
 
Cheers,
 
Dumbledad.
 


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From jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com  Wed May 26 15:46:20 2004
From: jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com (mooseming)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:46:20 -0000
Subject: Something odd on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <c92cnt+qu6v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c92e4c+1vcv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> 
> Second time of posting; the first one obviously eaten
> by Yahoo!Mort.
> 
> If you go to the Links page on JKR's site, open the
> volume 'Publishers' and scroll down to 'Ukraine',
> there's a very strange entry which sure as hell isn't
> a publishers address.
> 
> Anyone got any ideas what it means?
> 
> Kneasy

Its kosher. The first independent children's publisher in the Ukraine
founded in 1992 by the Ukrainian poet Ivan Malkovych. He called it
'A-BA-BA-HA-LA-MA-HA', taking the name from the adventures of Hryts, a
mischievous schoolboy in Ivan Franko's classic story, "Hrytseva
Shkilna Nauka," (Greg's School Studies).

Cheers
Jo




From bumbledor at charter.net  Wed May 26 17:39:08 2004
From: bumbledor at charter.net (Bumbledor)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:39:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Gas prices US and UK
References: <c92aqa+hci7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000701c44348$594580d0$6501a8c0@mac>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jennifer Piersol" <jenP_97 at yahoo.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...>
wrote:
> > coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at y...> wrote:

> >
> > The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx 0.82
per
> litre this converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.
>
>
> Jen: I paid $1.97 a gallon the other day in Austin, Texas, and
> thought that was high, but not now!

Yeah... every time I think about complaining about gas prices, I just
think about how much everyone else pays for gas, and then I know I
have no right to complain.

Then I think about getting out my bicycle.

Of course, I'm to lazy to actually ride my bike anywhere.  Now, get me
to the gym and I'll pedal nowhere for 20 miles...

-Jen, who has decided with her hubby that their next car will be a
hybrid, no matter what gas prices are...

ps.  Our lowest price here is $2.35/gal

Bumbledor writes:
 Ah Jen, you are forgetting, that the UK pays for a lot of its government
thru gas taxes. Ruffly 75 percent of the price of petrol over there is
taxes. Take away the taxes and their price of gas is about the same as ours.

When we compair the overall tax rate of the US compaired to other nations,
we find our current tax rates are about the same.





From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 20:06:44 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:06:44 -0000
Subject: Gas prices US and UK
In-Reply-To: <000701c44348$594580d0$6501a8c0@mac>
Message-ID: <c92tck+i1ft@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Bumbledor" <bumbledor at c...> 
wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jennifer Piersol" <jenP_97 at y...>
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" 
<stevejjen at e...>
> wrote:
> > > coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at y...> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx ?0.82
> per
> > litre this converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.
> >
> >
> > Jen: I paid $1.97 a gallon the other day in Austin, Texas, and
> > thought that was high, but not now!
> 
> Yeah... every time I think about complaining about gas prices, I 
just
> think about how much everyone else pays for gas, and then I know I
> have no right to complain.
> 
> 
> ps.  Our lowest price here is $2.35/gal
> 


In Columbia, South Carolina I can find gas for $1.85. I think im 
winning the game! :-) I actually think SC is about the lowest in the 
US. Hope the car companies are making some fierce progress on 
electric and Hybrid cars. I worked at a Honda store for a while last 
year and their hybrid Civic can get something like 50MpG but the car 
has less horsepower and less cabin space.

Jason




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 01:31:28 2004
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 01:31:28 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c8uv3v+e5nv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c93gdg+g6ah@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "earendil_fr"
<earendil_fr at y...> wrote:
> Carol wrote:
> > I have her site open to the Links page (I heard Peeves come by as I
> > typed this post), but still the locked box won't open.
> > 
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> Earendil:
> Try dragging the book with a question mark to the side...
> 
> 
> Earendil.


Thank you! I should have known that question mark was a clue, or
rather that you had to do more than click on it repeatedly. You can
see how often I play computer games!

So now I have four scrapbook items. Is there anything else?

Carol, who thinks that Peter Jackson and his writers should have left
the name of "our most beloved star" as Earendil instead of changing it
to Elendil after a mere Numenorean




From snow15145 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 00:57:18 2004
From: snow15145 at yahoo.com (snow15145)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:57:18 -0000
Subject: I Know The Ending
Message-ID: <c93ede+b3sp@eGroups.com>

Sence of Humor a must!

I know the ending nananananana 
Watch in order for best results
Link below:
(Press watch this movie)
How the Mirror of Erised Scene was Suppose to Go 
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=125858

Bothering Snape
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=125471

The Ending to the Books
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=140341

Hope you had fun!
Snow





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 01:47:38 2004
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 01:47:38 -0000
Subject: Catching up and other computer woes
In-Reply-To: <c90fl4+4hig@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c93hbq+qrmf@eGroups.com>

> Hey Carol,
> 
> I feel your pain on the main board.  I have gotten so overwhelmed 
> with the sheer quantity of posts and how so many of them seem to 
> revolve around the same few questions, I've gotten a little tired of 
> the whole thing!  
> 
> You have probably solved all of this already, but...use the eraser on 
> the blank paper (on the bulletin board) it will help you find the 
> fourth.
> 
> Hope you're doing well!
> 
> Sue


Hi, Sue. Thanks for asking about me. I found the fourth scrapbook item
thanks to Earendil's post about the book with the question mark. I'm
hopelessly behind on the main board and have skipped about 600 posts
(many of them, I'm sure, not worth reading, but it's the result of
more editing projects than usual, which is good and bad (more money,
less time to play). Unfortunately, my computer, or rather
Netscapemort, ate all the messages in my inbox, my sent folder, and
the folders I had meticulously created for all my correspondents. All
I had when I went to check my e-mail this morning was a Free Netscape
Mail icon and three inaccessible new messages. I hate computers! Well,
I can't live without them and I love Yahoo groups, but I hate the
frustrations I have now that I didn't have before I became dependent
on THE PC.

Carol

P.S. Is that nasty bug that flies by when Peeves attacks the main page
of JKR's site supposed to be a Doxy? Brrrr!




From desiivy at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 02:30:23 2004
From: desiivy at yahoo.com (~Ivy~)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gas prices
In-Reply-To: <c90vjl+s5fs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040527023023.22574.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com>

I had to reply to this one!! 
This mourning I paid 2.32, it cost me $36 to fill up my van.
 
I checked in my area, the state of Oregon. 
The lowest is 2.11 The highest is 2.63.
 
~Ivy~

 
 
coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's a site you can go to to find the cheapest gas prices in your 
area.  www.GasBuddy.com  Gas where I live (Rochester, NY area) is 
currently about $2.13 a gallon.  What is it where you all live?

Joj




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From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 03:24:35 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:24:35 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
Message-ID: <c93n1j+a030@eGroups.com>

It's a while till Book 6, and wow, already a year since Book 5!  My 
young Ravenclaw friend and I went in costume to an event last 
summer.  Just as I had finished our costumes to perfection, they come 
out with the new design... argh... but I got an updated tie.

It doesn't look like posting photos is possible at this time, but at 
least maybe we'll take some updated ones... :)

aj




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 03:43:55 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 23:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <c93n1j+a030@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040527034355.32420.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- "A.J." <ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com> wrote: > It's a
while till Book 6, and wow, already a year
> since Book 5!  My 
> young Ravenclaw friend and I went in costume to an
> event last 
> summer.  Just as I had finished our costumes to
> perfection, they come 
> out with the new design... argh... but I got an
> updated tie.
> 
> It doesn't look like posting photos is possible at
> this time, but at 
> least maybe we'll take some updated ones... :)
> 
I'm definitely wearing robes to the movie viewing here
in Ottawa. A few of the other Convention Alley
volunteers will also be dressed up. Photos will
definitely be taken!

Sheryll

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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 03:52:58 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:52:58 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Anyone going to the movie in costume?
References: <20040527034355.32420.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c501c4439e$1a169d80$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

I'm actually torn between going in costume or
not.  Since I'm going to PoA in NYC on the
day after...dunno if I wanna embarrass myself
in front of that many fandomers...

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 04:08:46 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 04:08:46 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <00c501c4439e$1a169d80$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c93pke+1jpg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> I'm actually torn between going in costume or
> not.  Since I'm going to PoA in NYC on the
> day after...dunno if I wanna embarrass myself
> in front of that many fandomers...

Gee, I'd tend to take advantage of it.  I have to leave on a plane 
early the next morning, or I'd be going to repeat viewings in costume!

aj >:)  (see below, from last year)

http://www.cyberpawz.com/Coppermine/displayimage.php?
album=random&cat=10071&pos=-12352




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 04:10:06 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:10:06 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
References: <c93pke+1jpg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e101c443a0$7f0b6ca0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

aj wrote:

<Gee, I'd tend to take advantage of it.  I
have to leave on a plane
early the next morning, or I'd be going to
repeat viewings in costume!>

Geeze, and the whole reason I'm not seeing it
the day it opens is I'll be on a plane that
day. :o)

I might, though my best friend whom I'm
dragging with me is making weird computer
faces at me for even suggesting the idea.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 04:20:55 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:20:55 -0700
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
References: <c93pke+1jpg@eGroups.com> <00e101c443a0$7f0b6ca0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <00e301c443a2$020288e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Does anyone know where I can get a decent,
hand or machine knitted Slytherin scarf that
ISN'T one of those mass produced...things
that they're now coming out with?  I glanced
at ebay but no one seems to want to put the
effort into making a REAL product when they
can buy the cheapies.

Saitaina
Who would trade her hand done Gryffindor for
a Slytherin any day
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 07:00:13 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 07:00:13 -0000
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
In-Reply-To: <00e301c443a2$020288e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c943lt+10g56@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a decent,
> hand or machine knitted Slytherin scarf that
> ISN'T one of those mass produced...things

I remember finding several a year ago, but no longer have the sites 
bookmarked.  But I found everything doing searches on Google.

Here is a pattern for knitting your own:
http://www.garbtheworld.com/pgs/scarfpattern.shtml




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 08:37:09 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:37:09 -0000
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
In-Reply-To: <00e301c443a2$020288e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c949bl+bqrr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a decent,
> hand or machine knitted Slytherin scarf that
> ISN'T one of those mass produced...things
> that they're now coming out with?  I glanced
> at ebay but no one seems to want to put the
> effort into making a REAL product when they
> can buy the cheapies.
> 
> Saitaina
> Who would trade her hand done Gryffindor for
> a Slytherin any day
> ****

bboy_mn:

I don't know about the quality but the wandmaker Alivan's has new and
old style ties, scarves, robes, hats, and of course, wands.

http://www.alivans.com/custom/list.asp?c=19742&pageid=10276

As it turns out, the Minnesota Golden Gophers has maroon and gold as
their team colors, and their scarves look nearly identical to the
Gryffindor scarves I've seen.

Maybe you can find a city, college, or professional sports team that
has green and gray, or if possible, green and silver for their team
colors. (Green Bay Packers maybe?)

Just a thought.

bboy_mn







From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Thu May 27 08:52:14 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:52:14 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <c93n1j+a030@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c94a7u+4bof@eGroups.com>

Hi All,

I was planning to, but I've been told by my 11 year old daughter 
that it would be too embarassing :-(

Cheers,

Dumbledad.




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 08:54:56 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 01:54:56 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
References: <c94a7u+4bof@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <013f01c443c8$49313ba0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Dumbledad wrote:

<I was planning to, but I've been told by my
11 year old daughter
that it would be too embarrassing :-(>

At least you weren't told by your 23 year old
best friend that it would be.  Of course she
dresses up for Rocky Horror so I can't say
much about her sanity....

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 08:52:15 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 01:52:15 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Slytherin Scarfs
References: <c949bl+bqrr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <013601c443c7$e9992fe0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

bboy_mn wrote:

<I don't know about the quality but the
wandmaker Alivan's has new and
old style ties, scarves, robes, hats, and of
course, wands.>

*giggles* shortly after AJ posted, I found
Alivan's site (wanted to look at the wands)
and found the scarves, they're perfect and I
shall soon own one so I'm very happy.

Thanks for the recommendation even if I found
it before you suggested it.  I was getting
rather desperate.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From earendil_fr at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 08:58:09 2004
From: earendil_fr at yahoo.com (earendil_fr)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:58:09 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <c93gdg+g6ah@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c94aj1+dfu6@eGroups.com>

Carol wrote:
> So now I have four scrapbook items. Is there anything else?


I have four scrapbook items as well. I don't think there's anything 
else (for the moment), and I can't recall anyone reporting a fifth 
item. I guess we all have to be 'patient' now...

Earendil




From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 10:13:18 2004
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:13:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
Message-ID: <20040527101318.27670.qmail@web40005.mail.yahoo.com>

27May04
 
<entropymail at y...> wrote:
 Hint: Think about the only time we've seen Arthur use
a "fellytone".

Good hint!  Just what I've suspected all along.  But what's driving me crazy--I just moved and realized that I don't have Book 5 here.  What's the number of M of M.  Just remember 8's and 6's, have tried various combinations, but nothing works.  Anyone willing to help?  Know this will give it away.
 
~Paula Gaon




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From snow15145 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 10:43:29 2004
From: snow15145 at yahoo.com (snow15145)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:43:29 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <20040527101318.27670.qmail@web40005.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c94goh+9jrv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Paula Gaon <paulag5777 at y...> 
wrote:
> 27May04
>  
> <entropymail at y...> wrote:
>  Hint: Think about the only time we've seen Arthur use
> a "fellytone".
> 
> Good hint!  Just what I've suspected all along.  But what's driving 
me crazy--I just moved and realized that I don't have Book 5 here.  
What's the number of M of M.  Just remember 8's and 6's, have tried 
various combinations, but nothing works.  Anyone willing to help?  
Know this will give it away.
>  
> ~Paula Gaon
>
 Welcome to the Ministry,
 The # is: 62442

Snow 		






From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 12:37:42 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:37:42 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c94goh+9jrv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c94nem+jp9s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "snow15145" <snow15145 at y...>
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Paula Gaon <paulag5777 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > 27May04
> >  
> > <entropymail at y...> wrote:
> >  Hint: Think about the only time we've seen Arthur use
> > a "fellytone".
> > 
> > Good hint!  Just what I've suspected all along.  But what's driving 
> me crazy--I just moved and realized that I don't have Book 5 here.  
> What's the number of M of M.  Just remember 8's and 6's, have tried 
> various combinations, but nothing works.  Anyone willing to help?  
> Know this will give it away.
> >  
> > ~Paula Gaon
> >
>  Welcome to the Ministry,
>  The # is: 62442
>
> Snow

Yeah, and just so you don't forget again, it's M-A-G-I-C !

How many of us have wasted ages punching various other numbers into
that phone?  For instance, on the 'Extras' page, there are *three*
business cards for the Street Car -- enough to make out the entire
phone number, and besides, there's a little picture of a phone right
on the card!  But I was sorely disappointed when I punched that number
into the cell phone and nothing happened!  And the worst part of it
is, that you'll never really know if you've missed a number that would
do something, because you'd never have the time to try all of them. 
Even though I think 'MAGIC' is the only number that works *now,* every
time Jo updates we'll never know if she hasn't added a new number
(unless she makes it obvious that she has).

Oh, well.  Just wainting for June 1 now, to see if there's a new
Wizard of the Month (thanks, Pipping, for pointing that out to me!),
which would probably mean there's an update! ...not that she mightn't
wait till June 28 or something...

Annemehr





From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Thu May 27 13:32:55 2004
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:32:55 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c94nem+jp9s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c94qm7+poe4@eGroups.com>

Annemehr:
> How many of us have wasted ages punching various other numbers into
> that phone?  For instance, on the 'Extras' page, there are *three*
> business cards for the Street Car -- enough to make out the entire
> phone number, and besides, there's a little picture of a phone 
right
> on the card!  But I was sorely disappointed when I punched that 
number
> into the cell phone and nothing happened!  And the worst part of it
> is, that you'll never really know if you've missed a number that 
would
> do something, because you'd never have the time to try all of 
them. 
> Even though I think 'MAGIC' is the only number that works *now,* 
every
> time Jo updates we'll never know if she hasn't added a new number
> (unless she makes it obvious that she has).


Jen: I think there will always be clues. The site has to be user-
friendly for children to figure out or it would be very frustrating 
for them. Maybe JKR got her daughter's input on making up the 
clues?! Of course, many children are great at computers, but 
still....seems like they made the site for a wide range of ages and 
computer-skill levels.




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 13:46:21 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:46:21 -0000
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
In-Reply-To: <013601c443c7$e9992fe0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c94rfd+qepd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> bboy_mn wrote:
> 
> <I don't know about the quality but the
> wandmaker Alivan's has new and
> old style ties, scarves, robes, hats, and of
> course, wands.>
> 
> *giggles* shortly after AJ posted, I found
> Alivan's site (wanted to look at the wands)
> and found the scarves, they're perfect and I
> shall soon own one so I'm very happy.

Oh good heavens!  I didn't suggest them because I thought they were 
the well known mass produced scarves you were referring to!  >:D

We're pretty happy with ours: 
http://www.cyberpawz.com/Coppermine/displayimage.php?
album=random&cat=10071&pos=-12352

They're acrylic but not badly made.




From mail at chartfield.net  Thu May 27 14:56:13 2004
From: mail at chartfield.net (queen_astrofiammante)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:56:13 -0000
Subject: Mark Evans theory (was Re: JK's Own Site!!!)
In-Reply-To: <c88me8+n67a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c94vid+bk4d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "abigailnus" 
<abigailnus at y...> wrote:

> Speaking of this, I'd like to encourage people to vote for this 
question 
> as opposed to the other two (Severus Snape=Perseus Evans and will 
> Sirius return) since I think that by their very inclusion in the 
poll we can 
> gather that the answer to both questions is no.  

The Perseus Evans question is worded so tightly that the answer is 
inevitably no. Is Snape, specifically, Lily's brother? Of course not.

But it would have been worth voting for if it had opened the 
possibility of his being another sort of relative. Perseus Evans is 
one of my favourite of all theories - I just can't see how it can 
possibly be an accident - but I still voted for Mark Evans, as the 
Snape question is worded so as to be worthless. That's why no-one's 
voting for it, (although Perseus Evans has never been the most wildly 
popular chap in fandom).





From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 17:17:11 2004
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:17:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
Message-ID: <20040527171711.59181.qmail@web40005.mail.yahoo.com>

27May04

Carol wrote:
 So now I have four scrapbook items. Is there anything else?


Paula now:

Good going!  I still have only three, thanks to lots of help from list members.  Have to admit that I'm not too with it when it comes to games.  In any case, has anyone caught the fly or butterfly/moth?  Or, am I misunderstanding thinking this is one of the objectives?

~Paula Gaon





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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 20:08:57 2004
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:08:57 -0000
Subject: The pen...And a few other little things...
In-Reply-To: <20040527171711.59181.qmail@web40005.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c95hsp+6kv1@eGroups.com>


> Carol wrote:
>  So now I have four scrapbook items. Is there anything else?
> 

Annemehr:
Nope, nothing else. Unless, of course, we've *all* missed something!
...
Nah! 

> 
> Paula now:
> 
> Good going!  I still have only three, thanks to lots of help from
list members.  Have to admit that I'm not too with it when it comes to
games.  In any case, has anyone caught the fly or butterfly/moth?  Or,
am I misunderstanding thinking this is one of the objectives?
> 
> ~Paula Gaon

Annemehr:
People have managed to click on them (I know I've nailed the butterfly
for sure), but they don't do anything...yet, anyway. So, you'll have
to find something else to try!

Annemehr
who still thinks a big reason for the Bay City Rollers ticket stub was
because the Weird Brothers were the opening act...






From earendil_fr at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 22:29:01 2004
From: earendil_fr at yahoo.com (earendil_fr)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:29:01 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c94nem+jp9s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c95q3d+sr2c@eGroups.com>

Annemehr wrote:
> How many of us have wasted ages punching various other numbers into
> that phone?  For instance, on the 'Extras' page, there are *three*
> business cards for the Street Car -- enough to make out the entire
> phone number, and besides, there's a little picture of a phone right
> on the card!  But I was sorely disappointed when I punched that 
number
> into the cell phone and nothing happened!  

Lol, I tried that one too! I thought that if there were enough cards 
to make out the entire phone number, it meant it had to be useful 
somehow... (none of the other numbers are complete)

My hopes scattered when I realised I couldn't type the full number...
Then I tried typing the first part of the phone number only (which 
failed), then starting with the second number (which failed too), and 
so on until I typed the last part of the phone number only...
As you can guess none worked...

And after reading the comment about the MoM's number being M-A-G-I-C, 
I tried typing H-A-R-R-Y... Which didn't work either... :-p

Earendil, waiting for the website's next update.





From earendil_fr at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 22:35:13 2004
From: earendil_fr at yahoo.com (earendil_fr)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:35:13 -0000
Subject: JKR's site - door theory
In-Reply-To: <c94nem+jp9s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c95qf1+4nq8@eGroups.com>

Annemehr wrote:
> How many of us have wasted ages punching various other numbers into
> that phone?  

Just thought of something else.
On the Extra Stuff message board, there's a note saying "Call Friddy 
before tea" (not sure I read the name right, could be 'Fiddy')

I'm wondering if it's a hint to find that Friddy's number (that would 
be hidden somewhere on the website) and dial it... Before tea, of 
course...

Earendil, off dialing F-R-I-D-D-Y or F-I-D-D-Y





From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 02:46:58 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 02:46:58 -0000
Subject: Mark Evans theory (was Re: JK's Own Site!!!)
In-Reply-To: <c94vid+bk4d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c96972+it49@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "queen_astrofiammante" 
<mail at c...> wrote:

>Perseus Evans is 
> one of my favourite of all theories - I just can't see how it can 
> possibly be an accident - but I still voted for Mark Evans, as the 
> Snape question is worded so as to be worthless. That's why no-one's 
> voting for it, (although Perseus Evans has never been the most 
wildly > popular chap in fandom).

Oh, I've always been a nut for the Perseus Evans theory.  And it felt 
encouraging to learn of an Andromeda in Book 5!

Maybe we could get her to have a new poll with better wording... 
sigh... Like, "Is Snape's name supposed to be an anagram?" or 
something... <:-\




From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 02:58:35 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 02:58:35 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <c93n1j+a030@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c969sr+dau3@eGroups.com>

I have a bit more work to do on the revamping of my robe but I am SO
going in school dress (has a rule breaking girl cause I'm wearing
pants).  I even purchased my sweater (which came two weeks ago) only
to see the new ones (grrrrrrrr!) but that's for next year's
convention, me thinks.
Kai


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "A.J." <ajhuflpuf at y...> wrote:
> It's a while till Book 6, and wow, already a year since Book 5!  My 
> young Ravenclaw friend and I went in costume to an event last 
> summer.  Just as I had finished our costumes to perfection, they come 
> out with the new design... argh... but I got an updated tie.
> 
> It doesn't look like posting photos is possible at this time, but at 
> least maybe we'll take some updated ones... :)
> 
> aj




From ekrbdg at msn.com  Fri May 28 03:07:34 2004
From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:07:34 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gas prices
References: <20040527023023.22574.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02b301c44460$ed930140$9a87f343@hppav>

 I'm in Maryland and it costs me almost $50 to fill my Expedition !    
That was with my tank almost on "E".   It was $2.02/gallon.



> I had to reply to this one!! 
> This mourning I paid 2.32, it cost me $36 to fill up my van.
>  
> I checked in my area, the state of Oregon. 
> The lowest is 2.11 The highest is 2.63.
>  
> ~Ivy~
> 
>  




From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 03:31:37 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 03:31:37 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <013f01c443c8$49313ba0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c96bqp+bcdi@eGroups.com>

This is why I love going on my own (sometimes).  I went all the way to
HPFGU in Florida in my rope *g*.
Gonna do the same thing for next years con too
Kai
*frequently embarressing herself at work by spouting off the
days/hours/minutes/seconds left til PoA*



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> wrote:
> Dumbledad wrote:
> 
> <I was planning to, but I've been told by my
> 11 year old daughter
> that it would be too embarrassing :-(>
> 
> At least you weren't told by your 23 year old
> best friend that it would be.  Of course she
> dresses up for Rocky Horror so I can't say
> much about her sanity....
> 
> Saitaina
> ****
> "Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
> skin, that's a pretty good indication that
> he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."
> 
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina
> 
> "No, one day I'm going to look back on all
> this and plow face-first into a tree because
> I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
> still be having a better day than I am
> today."




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri May 28 03:31:18 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:31:18 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
References: <c96bqp+bcdi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <02aa01c44464$3dd1e240$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

My whole problem is I don't have a school
version of the robes, or any version really.

My "Narcissa Malfoy" costume (which I wore
for the release of OotP) consists of a black
ballgown style skirt (very lacey), a black
lace tanktop under a black meshy shirt and a
black witches hat.  It was a hit for this
small town but I wouldn't want to show up
with other HP fans who might make fun of my
wannabe costume.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 04:12:01 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:12:01 -0000
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
In-Reply-To: <c94rfd+qepd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c96e6h+5edg@eGroups.com>



and here are wool, more expensive: 
http://www.garbtheworld.com/items/g0046.shtml

How dreadful to have to leave on a plane immediately after the film 
opens, and be away till mid month, instead of walking around in 
costume all the first weekend or so and milking it, with various 
friends!  Sigh...

Anyhow.  Good luck..




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 04:19:18 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:19:18 -0000
Subject: Robes (was: Re: Anyone going to the movie in costume?)
In-Reply-To: <02aa01c44464$3dd1e240$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <c96ek6+46l3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> My whole problem is I don't have a school
> version of the robes, or any version really.

OK, AJ to the rescue again perhaps.

I made mine very inexpensively by getting fabric on sale and using 
iron-sealing tape (no sewing machine).

But you can have robes made to your specifications here:
$55  http://www.garbtheworld.com/items/g0026.shtml

Or get the new type of school robe here:
http://wizardshack.com/hogwarts_school_robe.html
What!! It was working last night!  This has the House lining, etc. 
$150

Or wait for Alivans to start stocking the new types of robe, or get 
this old type back in stock in June:
$89 http://www.alivans.com/custom/edit.asp?p=89492

Or order a $15 graduation gown with no hood online.

To think I handmade everything on my original costume, no sewing 
machine-- even the tie-- now you can just click and get it all 
instantly online. >:)

For PERFECT, BEAUTIFUL Hogwarts patches, use www.patchpalace.com -- 
they also sell on ebay.

--A. (If I can't walk around all month like that, I can help others 
to prepare for the movie or next book opening, or conventions, and 
we'll all enhance each others' costumes in public... :D  )

p.s. I and my friend and family also have assorted colors of lizards, 
domestic rats, and Crookshanks lookalike, great costume enhancers if 
they like to pose for a photo!




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 04:35:43 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:35:43 -0000
Subject: OK, here is how finished product looks:
Message-ID: <c96fiv+pkpi@eGroups.com>

You can't really see both patches too well, but they're very nice. 
http://www.cyberpawz.com/Coppermine/displayimage.php?album=180&pos=0
This was last summer so old movie style.




From frellseeker at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 06:22:25 2004
From: frellseeker at yahoo.com (Gandore Dumbledalf)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:22:25 -0000
Subject: Gas prices US and UK
In-Reply-To: <20040526061350.71014.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c96lr1+830i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, udder_pen_dragon <udderpd at y...> wro=
te:
>
>
> coolbeans3131 <coolbeans3131 at y...> wrote:
> Here's a site you can go to to find the cheapest gas prices in your
> area. www.GasBuddy.com Gas where I live (Rochester, NY area) is
> currently about $2.13 a gallon. What is it where you all live?
>
> Joj
>
>
> UdderPD
>
> Just for interest.
>
> The current price of Petrol (Gas) in the UK is approx ?0.82 per litre thi=
s converts to approx $5.40 per US gallon.
>
> Udder PenDragon
>


That's why I drive a European car. 51k+ per gallon (31.5 mpg)@ 14 years old=
.

2 weeks between fillups;   10 cents higher each time..

At this rate, by Christmas the US would have equal prices to the UK's right=
 now.  :(








From frellseeker at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 06:31:50 2004
From: frellseeker at yahoo.com (Gandore Dumbledalf)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:31:50 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <c93n1j+a030@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c96mcm+vr6p@eGroups.com>

Um, I know hand-made costumes are best, but wondering

if anyone's got that Official Sorting Hat*. Looks good, but
does it fit adults? Can't get a reply from Alivan's.. other
places sell them, but more fun to get it from a HP site.

And /or.. is it kinda cheesy? can't get a review from
HPMFGU online, since they don't exist.. yet?
(HP Merchandise for grown-ups) 

..Else it's diagrams, fabric and detailing for less $.

*Sorting capacity not included. 







From phil_hp7 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May 28 08:31:43 2004
From: phil_hp7 at yahoo.co.uk (Phil Boswell)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:31:43 -0000
Subject: Slytherin Scarfs
In-Reply-To: <c96e6h+5edg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c96tdf+gepg@eGroups.com>

"A.J." <ajhuflpuf at y...> wrote:
> and here are wool, more expensive: 
> http://www.garbtheworld.com/items/g0046.shtml

Someone needs to tell them the HP Lexicon has moved. I would but our
email system is up the creek, has been all week :-(

Anyone else notice a scary resemblance to Emperor Palpatine in that photo?
-- 
Phil





From kcartweel at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 20:24:32 2004
From: kcartweel at yahoo.com (kcartweel)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 20:24:32 -0000
Subject: So I have three items...
Message-ID: <c98760+quqj@eGroups.com>

What is the fourth? 




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Fri May 28 20:53:14 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:53:14 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So I have three items...
References: <c98760+quqj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000501c444f5$cbf2a690$bcde6251@kathryn>

Well that rather depends on which three you've got, doesn't it?

S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
P
A
C
E

Just in case some people don't know and don't *want* to know.

Which are you missing -

Medals in the fan sites room,
Potion ingredients from the noticeboard,
Phone
Locked Box in the Links (I think) room, the room with all the books anyway.

K
"The Loudest Noise Comes From The Electric Minerva."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kcartweel" <kcartweel at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:24 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So I have three items...


> What is the fourth?
>
>
>
>
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>
> Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files!
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>
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>
>
>
>
>




From kcartweel at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 02:46:14 2004
From: kcartweel at yahoo.com (kcartweel)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 02:46:14 -0000
Subject: So I have three items...
In-Reply-To: <000501c444f5$cbf2a690$bcde6251@kathryn>
Message-ID: <c98thm+lv73@eGroups.com>

So question: what does the messageboard do? Oh.. and I have the phone
number and trophy room for sure and I am not sure what the third I got was





In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" <kcawte at n...> wrote:
> Well that rather depends on which three you've got, doesn't it?
> 
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
> 
> Just in case some people don't know and don't *want* to know.
> 
> Which are you missing -
> 
> Medals in the fan sites room,
> Potion ingredients from the noticeboard,
> Phone
> Locked Box in the Links (I think) room, the room with all the books
anyway.
> 
> K
> "The Loudest Noise Comes From The Electric Minerva."
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kcartweel" <kcartweel at y...>
> To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:24 PM
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So I have three items...
> 
> 
> > What is the fourth?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________
> >
> > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin
Files!
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/
> >
> > Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material
from
> posts to which you're replying!
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 04:06:21 2004
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (A.J.)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 04:06:21 -0000
Subject: Anyone going to the movie in costume?
In-Reply-To: <c969sr+dau3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9927t+bgvn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kaisenji" <kaisenji at y...> 
wrote:
> I have a bit more work to do on the revamping of my robe but I am SO
> going in school dress (has a rule breaking girl cause I'm wearing
> pants).  

Hey, me too!  I'm tired of getting confused with Harry, so I let my 
hair grow long, but I refuse to wear the silly skirt... >:)

aj




From mrharryotter at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 14:54:36 2004
From: mrharryotter at yahoo.com (mrharryotter)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 14:54:36 -0000
Subject: For those of us who can't wait until June 4...
Message-ID: <c9a87c+mfb7@eGroups.com>

... there's a short film fan tribute a la E! True Hollywood Stories called "Life & 
Times: Harry Otter"... actually, "Life & Times" has been mentioned by the likes 
of mugglenet.com, hogwartswire, iharrypotter.net, and darkhorizons.com, and 
is currently one of ifilm.com's Top 100 Most Popular Short Films of All Time.

Here's the link:
<http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2412323?htv=12>

Pass it on to other Harry fans!





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun May 30 15:03:18 2004
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 30 May 2004 15:03:18 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1085929398.15.47025.m22@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, May 30, 2004 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi everyone! 

Don't forget, chat happens today, 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 7
pm UK time. Chat times do not change for Daylight Saving/Summer
Time.  Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as
long as people want it to last.

Go into any Yahoo chat room and type:  /join HP:1 

Hope to see you there! 

 





From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Mon May 31 03:31:06 2004
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (dan)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 03:31:06 -0000
Subject: music that evokes the world of HP
Message-ID: <c9e8tq+nsjr@eGroups.com>

So, just listened to the UK band Lorna, who have recently released 
(indie) a cd, and it struck me that the themes, and sounds, on this 
disc really evoke, for me, the world of the HP books. Not whatever we 
might imagine the WSisters to sound like, but more how, perhaps, some 
of the students might sound, up on stage performing. The lead singer, 
Sharon Cohen, has this, uh, ethereal quality, LBrownish or something, 
and the lead singer is smooth too, vulnerable but not overly so... My 
question is, are there examples of this for other folk in this group? 
I'd be really interested.

FYI - The link for lorna, with other links to mp3s of their stuff, 
www.lornamusic.co.uk looks incredibly like JKR's new site





From katydid3500 at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 07:01:14 2004
From: katydid3500 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Wolber)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 00:01:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Movie Clips!
Message-ID: <20040531070114.57448.qmail@web40501.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey everyone, 
I went on Yahoo!Movies earlier to check out the box
office numbers for this weekend and saw a link to
Harry Potter clips!!! There are 8 in all. It's mostly
60-80 second clips of scenes we've seen bits of in the
trailers but they're really fabulous. It was
reassuring to see Snape call Hermione an insufferable
know it all and have Harry read off the Marauder's Map
the line about Snape's abnormally large nose. Anyway,
here's the link:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/harrypotter.html

Enjoy!!
~Katie, who is so excited about PoA that she keeps
forgetting to watch Return of the King =P


	
		
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From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 13:07:10 2004
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 06:07:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Movie Clips!
Message-ID: <20040531130710.76630.qmail@web40004.mail.yahoo.com>


31May04

  Kathryn Wolber <katydid3500 at y...>  wrote:

"Hey everyone,
I went on Yahoo!Movies earlier to check out the box
office numbers for this weekend and saw a link to
Harry Potter clips!!!...
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/harrypotter.html"

Paula now:

Thanks Kathryn,

I checked this link out and even updated my Media Player.  But the clips are still very small and dark.  Got a better viewing when I just opened the Media Player and Searched for "Prisoner of Azkaban".  The clip was larger and sound better.  Whatever, still waiting with baited breath like everyone else for the movie.

~Paula Gaon




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From CoyotesChild at charter.net  Mon May 31 14:23:10 2004
From: CoyotesChild at charter.net (Iggy McSnurd)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:23:10 -0500
Subject: For the Alan Rickman fans out there.
Message-ID: <000201c4471a$d037b4d0$6401a8c0@Einstein>

Iggy here:
 
If any of you Alan Rickman fans out there have HBO, watch it at 7:00pm
CDT for a docudrama starring one of our favorite actors.  "Something the
Lord Made", in which Rickman plays a surgeon who is aided by a black lab
tech in the 1930's/40's in creating an innovative surgical procedure.
(At least, that's what I gathered from the commercials.)
 
The IMDB site lists it as:  A dramatization of the relationship between
heart surgery pioneers Alfred Blalock and Vivien Thomas.
 
For a more detailed description, visit:
http://www.hbo.com/films/stlm/synopsis/
 
 
'nuff said.
 
Iggy McSnurd
 
 


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From udderpd at yahoo.co.uk  Mon May 31 17:40:43 2004
From: udderpd at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?udder=5Fpen=5Fdragon?=)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:40:43 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] POA comment SPOILERS sort of
In-Reply-To: <000201c4471a$d037b4d0$6401a8c0@Einstein>
Message-ID: <20040531174043.96130.qmail@web25108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>



I have seen the film this morning and I am going to give mt comments. So direct film comment follow.

The acting is generally brilliant and I am not going to pick out anyone for particular praise or otherwise. However I must say that I particularly enjoyed Hermione hitting Malfoy. 

My main complaints are aimed at Alfonso Cuaron. Did he realise that he was contributing one part of a series of films, of well known stories? Has he seen the first two films? Has he read the books? It does not appear to be so.

JKR is in the process of writing a brilliant series of ALL TIME best selling books. Why oh why do film makers change things for no good reason? They add things for no good reason and leave out important information. Enough to say that JKR writes good stories I wish that the same could be said for WB they have left huge Plot holes IMO it is not good enough to say that everyone has read the books so they will know who Cho Chang and Cedric Diggory are.

I am not going to carry on and give details, sufficent to say that I was not overly impressed with AC's contribution to HP.

Udder PenDragon




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From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Mon May 31 18:09:29 2004
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:09:29 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: So I have three items...
References: <c98thm+lv73@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c4473a$6af3bbd0$bcde6251@kathryn>




> So question: what does the messageboard do? Oh.. and I have the phone
> number and trophy room for sure and I am not sure what the third I got was
>
>

There's a 'blank' piece of paper on the messageboard (it appears last when
the page loads) and an eraser (actually a revealer) at the bottom. When you
use it on the paper you get a picture of a cauldron & 4 ingredients. Find
them and click and they vanish, when you have all 4 you get the bonus
content.

The other is in the links section - there is a book with a ? on it. Move
that and you get a key to unlock the box on the right of the shelves.

K




From helenhorsley at hotmail.com  Mon May 31 18:05:12 2004
From: helenhorsley at hotmail.com (dorapye)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:05:12 -0000
Subject: music that evokes the world of HP
In-Reply-To: <c9e8tq+nsjr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9fs4o+8ejf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dan" <lunalovegood at s...> 
wrote:
> So, just listened to the UK band Lorna, who have recently released 
> (indie) a cd, and it struck me that the themes, and sounds, on 
this 
> disc really evoke, for me, the world of the HP books. Not whatever 
we 
> might imagine the WSisters to sound like, but more how, perhaps, 
some 
> of the students might sound, up on stage performing. The lead 
singer, 
> Sharon Cohen, has this, uh, ethereal quality, LBrownish or 
something, 
> and the lead singer is smooth too, vulnerable but not overly so... 
My 
> question is, are there examples of this for other folk in this 
group? 
> I'd be really interested.

Hi, Dan.  I haven't come across Lorna, but I've often wondered if I 
should bring up the same issue on this site, as I have had a similar 
experience with Muse's Asolution.  If you don't have this cd, I 
cannot recommend it strongly enough - it is possibly the most 
powerful and compelling collection of rock songs I have heard 
since...well, since ever, most likely. *Very* dark, haunting, 
passionate, obsessive, bellicose, hateful, desperate, on the edge, 
songs of self-loathing, bitterness and destruction.  

So how does it relate to HP? Well, I'd say it evokes some of the 
themes in OotP...Apocalypse Please would be a good anthem for Harry 
going into the final showdown with LV; Butterflies and Hurricanes an 
melody for Harry's feelings as he reflects on the responsibilities 
that the prophecy has forced on him, and Sirius's death;Ruled By 
Secrecy ..'change in the air, and they'll hide everywhere and no one 
knows who's in control'  a Death Eater's or perhaps an Auror's 
lament?

Ah, well, let me know if any of you know this cd and get any of the 
same feelings listening to it, or if perhaps it's just me!

dorapye





From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon May 31 19:15:10 2004
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (a_reader2003)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:15:10 -0000
Subject: POA comment SPOILERS sort of
In-Reply-To: <20040531174043.96130.qmail@web25108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c9g07u+4kud@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, udder_pen_dragon 
<udderpd at y...> wrote:
>  
> My main complaints are aimed at Alfonso Cuaron. Did he realise that 
he was contributing one part of a series of films, of well known 
stories? Has he seen the first two films? Has he read the books? It 
does not appear to be so.
> 

Carolyn:
I saw the film this afternoon as well, and totally agree; in fact, am 
sitting here in a slough of despond. Its better than the other two, 
but that's starting from a low base. I wonder if, eventually, when 
the series is finished, someone will be allowed to make a complete 
new set of 'adult' movies. I don't mean full of sex or non-canon 
scenes, but simply films full of the sort of complexity, humour and 
nuance that is actually in the books, filmed for adults rather than 
kids.




From helenhorsley at hotmail.com  Mon May 31 18:22:13 2004
From: helenhorsley at hotmail.com (dorapye)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:22:13 -0000
Subject: Rupert, Dan and Emma
Message-ID: <c9ft4l+ge1e@eGroups.com>

Hi. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed a lot of the news 
coverage of the recent Azkaban premieres in the UK press and on 
television has included comments from the reporters about the 
longevity of the three main actors playing the trio and how they 
will soon be 'too old' to continue playing those roles?

I'm finding it really annoying that this seems to be a primary 
concern for the press, worrying the fans that their favourite actors 
may have to be replaced in future Potter films.  

And with blatant disregard to the fact that Dan will begin filming 
GoF in March next year, when he will be 14, the age that Harry would 
be in the book; Emma will be 13/14 (again, ideal) and Rupert 15/16 
which only makes him a year older than his book character, which, 
I'm sure, will hardly be noticed. 

Even if the films can't keep up with the actors' ages, I don't see 
how being a year or two out when filming the end of the series will 
really make much difference, espesh when you balance it with what 
those particular actors bring to their screen roles.  

I love the way that these three young actors seem to have actually 
grown into their roles and assumed some of the characteristics of 
their fictional alter egos...or maybe it was just perfect casting, 
they had the look and the personality for their on screen 
characters.  
Just wanted to share my frustration at these negative reports from 
the premieres.  

dorapye





From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 21:03:41 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:03:41 -0000
Subject: POA comment SPOILERS sort of (In my opinion)
In-Reply-To: <c9g07u+4kud@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9g6jd+rs2r@eGroups.com>

*Rollseyes*
Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing someone do the HP series in a 
different style that isn't the usual Hollywood slick flicks.  I have 
a deep affection for independent film makers because they have a 
really refreshing style.  If the two little clips I've allowed myself 
to see are the tip, I won't be disappointed in how the characters are 
used more. *crossing fingers*

I guess what I am saying is, commentaries recieved from those not 
related to the film critic industry shall forthwith be ignored. 

The best critic for this film is me, myself, and I.

Kai
*who expects flames for slightly sarcastic tone of this msg*





From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 21:13:37 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:13:37 -0000
Subject: Rupert, Dan and Emma
In-Reply-To: <c9ft4l+ge1e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9g761+hc9m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dorapye" <helenhorsley at h...> 
wrote: <snip>
Definately yes! It is quite annoying to have them judge/dismissed 
before even the next movie is out. I mean, haven't these ppl read 
that almost everyone is on for the next movie (can't wait for that 
one as well!) and shall be the right age (in the movie).  Look at Mr. 
Rickman; he's nearly 60 playing a man almost half his age.  

What creeps me out is Daniel R. and my ex-hubby share many same 
facial features. I once asked him if he had a cousin named Daniel but 
he never answered me.  Almost makes me want to follow up...ALMOST

Kai
*who isn't THAT curious*




From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 21:39:00 2004
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (ladilyndi)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:39:00 -0000
Subject: POA comment SPOILERS sort of
In-Reply-To: <c9g07u+4kud@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9g8lk+erqt@eGroups.com>

Oh dear, after reading your comments I'm wondering if I saw the same 
movie.  I thought it was brilliant.  I went in knowing it was not 
going to be a literal movie but more of an interpretation of the book 
so perhaps my standards weren't as high.  LOL  

I think all the things that needed to be in the movie were there, the 
things that will carry the basic story along.  Does the movie 
audience really have to know who Cho Chang or Cedric Diggory are at 
this point?  Not really.  They are both easily introduced in the next 
movie without the need of foreshadowing or meeting them now.  Did I 
miss things that were favorites in the book?  Of course.  Alas, not 
everything in the book could be in the movie.  I'm certainly glad 
they didn't cut Hermione smacking Draco though.  LOL

My problem is the same as I had with Mr. Weasley - a couple of the 
actors just didn't look like I had pictured them so it took some to 
get past that and those characters weren't as powerful for me as they 
were perhaps meant to be.

I did have fun trying to figure out what interpretations JK referred 
to in the USA Today article which she said foreshadowed things coming 
up in Books 6 and 7.

By the way, hi to everyone I haven't talked to in 11 months.  We're 
finally fully settled in England and hopefully I can be back on the 
Board more often.

Lynn


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "a_reader2003" 
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, udder_pen_dragon 
> <udderpd at y...> wrote:
> >  
> > My main complaints are aimed at Alfonso Cuaron. Did he realise 
that 
> he was contributing one part of a series of films, of well known 
> stories? Has he seen the first two films? Has he read the books? It 
> does not appear to be so.
> > 
> 
> Carolyn:
> I saw the film this afternoon as well, and totally agree; in fact, 
am 
> sitting here in a slough of despond. 




From kaisenji at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 21:40:59 2004
From: kaisenji at yahoo.com (Kaisenji)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:40:59 -0000
Subject: For the Alan Rickman fans out there.
In-Reply-To: <000201c4471a$d037b4d0$6401a8c0@Einstein>
Message-ID: <c9g8pb+ketb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Iggy McSnurd" 
<CoyotesChild at c...> wrote: <snip>

Rotter! I saw an ad regarding this special a couple of weeks ago but 
I'd forgotten it. 
Alas, too bad I despise HBO otherwise I'd watch. 
Someone who has HBO, let us know how it is, mkay?

Kai