Fanfic, Slytherins, etc (was Re: Plus, LJ and FictionAlley)

Dina Lerret redina at silverbloom.net
Mon Oct 25 07:06:54 UTC 2004


Saitaina said:

> You had to say it didn't you.  Any time
> the words "Draco" and "whore" reside in
> the same sentence my brain goes on
> holiday.

{g}  I recently read a fic where Draco did 'whore' himself out to Harry,
however, Draco was also the owner of the 'establishment' [of ill repute]. 
Mmm.  Gah, I am such a slasher.


> I always thought that was used as a
> coupon (over and over and over again).

Could be.  I periodically make up phrases.  I use multi-pass (reminiscent
of Fifth Element's Leeloo saying "mul-ti-pass") or sloppy seconds instead.


> I just can't wrap my head around
> cardboard villains.  I know they exist,
> I just don't know WHY.  What's the

Comedy?  Rowling portrays Draco as... pathetic to stuck up bitch at best. 
Plus, it's easier to label Draco as the bully to distract some viewers
from noticing even the 'good' Gryffindors can be bullies too.


> <  I prefer Daniel Radcliffe's POA
> look>
>
> *giggles*  Sorry, bad place.

{g} Anyway, I prefer a femme!Dan.


> < there's hair product called Bedhead.>
>
> I think I own some...

Any good?  I only knew of one gal using the product and... well, I was too
busy looking south of her face towards Thing 1 and Thing 2.


> I always hate those.  I mentally cut
> out those mention because really...just
> makes me think of Draco with golden
> ringlets and thanks but no.

Hehe!  Goldilocks and the Two Bears, Crabbe and Goyle.  I think Orlando
Bloom is the only guy where I like his curly hair.  Then again, he still
manages to look pretty with most of his hair shaved off and even with a
{gag} mohawk.


> Well, they're around here but it
> wouldn't be 'another' mod, it would be
> A mod since I'm no longer an elf at

I'm guessing A mod isn't Peja. ;-)


> this establishment.  I work for FA now
> (and various rpg and slash lists).

What?  I worked all this time to kiss up to you and now you're just a mod
for that insignificant FA site.  Damn!

{chuckle}

Heck, I couldn't even manage to suck up to my supervisor.  Although, I
might be able to do some serious arse kissing and boot licking if someone
writes me out a check with big $$$$$ cha-ching.  I'm not above bribery.
;-)


> I'm supposed to have another mind?

{g}


> Who?

? Switchknife Slash Recs - http://notquiteroyal.net/switchknife/


> What the...*fish face*  I don't want to
> know...

Probably best.  I've forgotten most of the fic.


> A LOT of fics make me wonder this...but

What amused me was finding a beta note, which was HTMLed as a different
colour, left in for this other fic.


> then I shouldn't speak to loudly so no
> one looks at my fics back when FA
> began...there are some freaky typos in
> there let me tell you.  Which is why I

I cringe at some of my older writing but... do you find it hard to get
back into the 'mindset' of a story to make later revisions possible?


> <"Gold-Tinted Spectacles".>
>
> I think I liked that story....

I liked it to a degree but the epithets were excessive in the first
version.  The best description of over-used epithets is characters having
multiple personality disorder.

Harry:
the Gryffindor, the dark-haired boy, the green-eyed boy, the seeker, the
Gryffindor seeker, the brunet, [if a mutant] insert species name, the
smaller boy, the thin boy, the (insert school year), and on and on.

I drew a line somewhere about the time Beren described Ron as the
Gryffindor keeper.  Not only the primary characters but the secondary
characters were subjected to epithets.

I believe there are uses for epithets, but I also think I writer should
use them for a *specific* effect.  I know JKR had characters call Harry
'the seeker' in PS/SS as a way of distancing him.


> I think it was role-playing in the
> sense that I'm the lord of the manor
> and you're the naughty maid....

LOL!  You crack me up.


> <Mainly, I've attended the BDSM panels
> for fanfic purposes>
>
> That's what they all say, doll.

Worked when a business convention was using the same hotel and slashers
kept replying 'a writers' convention' when asked. ;-)  I can understand
why the slash cons set-up door 'guards' to prevent non-members from
entering.


> Wish my mere didn't...they I wouldn't
> get odd looks.  Maybe its' part of
> Mere's generation not to discuss you
> know, sex and p*rn.

Could be but I know some slashers were in their fifties and sixties when I
met them.  Varies.


> I now want to see this.  I'm sadly
> lacking in fine movies such as these.

Me too.  Another gal brought some of her collection.  I believe the movie
was produced by Bel Ami's 'stable'.  Google pulls up some adult links.


> lists.  It's basically a hyped up
> version of "Go here, it's cool".

Ah, gotcha!


> Well Chris didn't pay much attention to
> anyone's acting.  If he did he would

Aww, but I think cuteness kinda makes some things forgivable.


> have noticed Emma's eyebrows trying to
> escape her face.  (and just to prove
> how much of a hypocrite I am, I adore
> Tom Felton's eyebrow raises).

Oh gawd!  Felton's eyebrows cracked me up while he was talking to a
morphed Harry and Ron in the Slytherin common room.


> Millie was in there?  Was she a big
> girl?

I'm guessing the girl is her, and yep, she paralleled CrabbeGoyle in
size--just how I imagined her.  In the COS Transfiguration scene, Draco
sits behind Ron, and if you look behind Draco, a girl sits behind him and
next to Crabbe.


> I agree, Milli's supposed to have the
> bob.  Of course I kept thinking the

I guess my impression of Millie having shorter hair is because Hermione
mistaked cat hair for her hair.  Granted, heads have different length
strands and hair can break but... I still think of Bulstrode's hair as
being more of a pageboy.


> chit next to Draco and co in the
> Quidditch scene of SS would make a good
> Pansy (pig tail girl).

I'll look for her.  I thought Genevieve Gaunt was too cute for Pansy.  I
know at least one person who thinks Gaunt was an extra in PS/SS sorting
ceremony:
http://www.geocities.com/aino_yaji/genevieve.html

The face does look similar but I'm still undecided because the PS/SS pics
have her with a larger chin.


> It was like "Animagus, Animagus,
> werewolf" and then nada for the giant
> glowing stag.  Um...rather important to
> the film guys.  Of course I'm not happy
> with the special effects for the
> patronus OR werewolf so I could be
> channeling that anger.

I'm also one who wasn't happy with the werewolf effect but I thought the
stag was okay until it did a 'supernova'.

The stag is described as charging at the Dementors.  However, I do wonder
how 'intimidating' it'd be if Harry had Hermione's otter patronus or one
shaped like... say a bunny--fear the bunny!


> I couldn't help it though, I'm rather
> attached to my poor ickle Peter.  If
> there was anyone in the books I would
> love to have a sit down with it would
> be him,

I think it's the theorized 'underdog' appeal which Draco has also
acquired.  Some have speculated Peter as the one redeemed in the end via
the 'life debt' to Harry.


> (notice I said 'sit-down',
> there are other things I would like to
> do to other characters).

{chuckle}


> boycotting the holiday.  It's my first
> year NOT dressing up and kidnapping
> neighbor hood kids in order to not look
> like a twenty-three year old going
> trick-or-treating (dude, free candy,
> like I'm going to pass that up, I have
> sweet cavities for a reason).

{g}  I stopped sometime around age 12-13, but I do make up for it by
purchasing candy I like in case there are leftovers.  Office is especially
also a 'raid point' for candy around this time.


> Completely random but WHY do people
> read my fics, and then decide to email
> me and tell me how to write?  Not only
> that, but WHY do they pic fics I wrote
> four + years ago?!  One guy wanted me

Have you placed a timestamp on the actual fic?  Some access fics via
direct links.  I know I frequently don't take date of publishing into
account if the dates are only on an index.  Also, have you updated author
notes to specify what type of feedback?


> that, C. I'm not re-writing a fic I
> haven't even looked at in two years, D.
> I sucked at writing back then, read
> something else if you want something
> not written in five minutes, E. I like
> it, deal with it).

This is partly why I stopped sending writers critiques; I can never be
certain of various factors, even if a writer does specify constructive
criticism is okay.


> Maybe I'm just being picky, but if
> you're giving constructive
> reviews...pick something recent!
> People who have 30+ fics to their names
> in four years obviously improved (Or
> they just really, really suck...).

I can see a rec for a supposed 'classic' of fandom, read it for the first
time, and find it wanting.  Am I no longer allowed to voice an opinion
because a fic is past its 'expiration'?

I encountered an older fic by this one writer and I *knew* she had
improved; yet, I was still critical of the older fic.  The writer could
just shrug off the comments if she ever saw them.

Dina






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