Putting in my 2p again
Karen Barker
karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Apr 6 12:29:04 UTC 2005
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...>
wrote:
> Kathryn wrote:
> Hmm, what about the Queen, I mean technically it is *her*
parliament, surely
> they'd pause for that (and if we do it fast we can screw up the
wedding
> again too - btw has it occured to you how many pissed off souvenir
sellers
> there now are in Windsor, since all their tea towels etc have the
wrong date
> ...
>
> Lynn:
>
> I love British humour. You guys have made my morning.
>
> One thought about the Queen though. If you do it before the
wedding, would Charles get crowned first or would he marry Camilla
first? There is that nasty little constitutional thing where a
civil wedding may not be legal - at least for the monarchy.
>
> Now, if Charles married Camilla first, he'd have to deal with the
whole "is a civil ceremony legal" thing but you'd probably see a
Charles and Camilla coronation. But, if Charles was crowned first,
as head of the church he could ditch the whole civil ceremony and
have a full blown legal wedding and then Camilla would become Queen.
>
> Either way you look at it - is ditching a few days of campaigning
worth it? From what I've read, this is the topic that can get some
blood boiling. LOL
>
> Lynn
>
Let's just hope that they don't decide to bury Prince Ranier on
Saturday!!!
BTW Lynn, marrying in a registry office is not stopping Camilla from
becoming Queen. They are electing to call her the Princess Consort
from choice - presumably as a fop to the people who don't want her
to be Queen. The fact of the matter is that the wife of the King is
the Queen. She can call herself "The chief cake-eater Royal" if she
so wishes but nevertheless she is still legally the Queen, just as
the wife of the Prince of Wales is the Princess of Wales. Prince
Charles is: Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Baron Rothesay, Lord
of the Isles and probably several other titles I can't remember.
Prince of Wales is just the highest ranking of his titles therefore
the one he is usually known by. Camilla will be using the female
(ie Mrs) of one of his lesser titles to avoid comparison with the
previous Princess of Wales and again presumably to avoid upsetting
anyone, but nevertheless, just as if I marry Mr John Smith, I am
legally Mrs. John Smith, whether or not I chose to call myself that
or keep my maiden name, as the wife of the Prince of Wales she will
legally be the Princess of Wales, as well as all the other tiles he
holds.
Also if they had married after Charles became head of the CofE they
still would not be allowed to marry in Church. The CofE will not
marry a divorcee who is considered to be the one responsible for the
failure of their first marriage. The wronged person in a failed
marriage can be married in church at the discretion of the relevant
vicar and bishop. Incidentally, if Charles wanted to marry a single
lady he could marry her in church, as in the eyes of the Church he
is a widower not a divorcee!
Hope you enjoyed this little ramble on some of the eccentricities of
us Brits!!
Karen
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