Never Deny Love

dudemom_2000 dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 11 21:19:32 UTC 2005


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Well, Prince Charles and Camilla are finally married, but not 
without some controversy and not without some dissent.
> 
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> On a small side note; I wonder if any of those people bothered to 
poll William on the idea of becoming King prematurely?

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I think making William King at a young age would not be a good 
thing. He is young and still needs to grow emotionally and, through 
age, get a good grounding of what he really wants to do with his 
position in the world. 

Steve bboyminn: 
> I guess I understand; the life and death of Princess Diana still 
tugs at the hearts of us all, and it's difficult to view any woman 
standing in her place. However, in this matter, I can only subscribe 
to the philosophy of 'Never deny love'. Charles and Camilla have 
been in love since the day they met, many many decades ago. But life 
and circumstance have conspired against them and kept them apart. Now
> Charles is in his 50's and life is winding down, as it does for us
> all. Now is a time in life when you realize that there is more 
behind you than ahead of you, and you begin to reflect on what is 
truly important in life. The love of a lifelong soul mate is 
certainly one of those reflections.

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I think you hit it right on the head there! Poor Diana was a tragedy 
and certainly the stuff great history is made of. I believe one of 
her ancestors, the Duchess of Devonshire, had a similar history of a 
marriage gone wrong, divorce and tragedy. Not to deny Diana 
anything, but I think people have it wrong about Camilla. I have 
gotten the impression that people think Camilla was a dirty down 
husband stealing hussy and I just can't see labeling her as such. We 
sigh and moon over the idea of true love that endures - that two 
people can fall in love in high school and then, due to 
circumstances, have to part and get on with their lives with other 
people. Then, years later, they meet again and find they still love 
each other very much and either end up divorcing spouses to be with 
each other or find each other through some serendipity. We think 
this is so wonderful and ooh and ahh how love endured so long. This 
is exactly the case here. I watched on TV and after having watched 
Charles most of my adult life, I must say this is the first time he 
has truly looked happy and very definitely in love (and with a 50 
something woman to boot!!!!). I can only imagine what his life has 
had to be like, sticking to tradition and form (sort of ala 
Gorminghast!)even to marrying because only certain people are 
suitable even if you don't really love them. Hence the tragedy of 
Diana...and to me this makes her story that much more tragic because 
she was the innocent in all this. Was everyone a victim of 
circumstance and timing and traditions - absolutely. Were people 
guilty - absolutely. But looking at the whole picture, I see people 
struggling to make what they can of their situations and for better 
or worse trying to get through it.
>
Steve bboyminn: 
> I can only speculate, but I don't think Camilla wants anyone to 
view her as a Dutchess, or Princess, or Queen. For that matter, I 
don't think think she expects Harry and William to view her as a 
mother. She simply want the world to realize that she has been, 
does, and always will love Charles, and that is the only context in 
which she wants her life defined. And, I think that is a fair 
request.
> 
> So, never deny love, it is so very rare and so very fragile, that 
we must treasure it when we find it.
> 
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Ditto in the strongest possible terms!

Steve bboyminn: 
> On a further note-
> 
> If Charles being King can buy William another 10 or 20 years of
> freedom and near normalcy, then I say let him have it. Charles 
will be an OK King. He's basically as good a guy as can be expected 
given his totally disfunctional upbringing. I think Willaim, and 
heaven forbid, if needed, Harry, will be an excellent King; probably 
one of the very best in modern times. William and Harry both have a 
great advantage in that Diana did make a serious effort to make 
their lives as normal as possible. That lack of disfunction shows in 
their quality of character. 

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I think those two young men are the wonderful legacy that Diana left 
behind. I watched a small sequence when the two were sitting 
together in the church waiting for the others to come in and they 
made me smile seeing them act as two brothers and looking and 
smiling and I am not sure if they even realized they had been filmed 
at that point. I think she was a wonderful influence in their lives 
and her life certainly was not in vain.

Steve bboyminn:
> 
> I think people are far too hard on them and far too demanding that
> they be some storybook illusion of what a Prince should be. They 
are both great guys who have experience hard work, and who have 
displayed the same great compassion for the world around them that 
Diana displayed. I say this even in the face of a few incidences of 
grossly overhyped overblown hysterically exaggerated media reports 
that when scaled back to a more realistic proportion show nothing 
more than that these are normal boys doing normal boy things.
> 
> Just passing it along.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn

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Definitely the media has distorted a lot and poked and prodded where 
they shouldn't. I fault them a lot for creating an image that is not 
reality and making conjectures about circumstances and things that 
are quite frankly mostly imaginary. We don't know how well the 
family actually gets along and quite frankly it probably is none of 
our business. It would be like the media hanging out our doors to 
see whether we kissed our spouse goodbye that day and then reported 
that because we didn't our marriage must be in trouble!!!!  Anything 
for a news story and shame on the press!

About the only reason I watched the what was on TV about the wedding 
was to see the hats and dresses (very nice!) and to finally see a 
man marry the woman he loved!

Dudemom_2000  (a romantic at heart)

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