From shalimar07 at aol.com Tue Feb 1 00:07:51 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:07:51 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: No Molly in GoF movie Message-ID: hmmm....I'm just wondering why everyone is so sure 'if' Harry does get his much deserved 'comforting hug' after the loss of Diggory, that it would be Hermoine.....why not McGonagal? Even if teachers are suppose to keep a non biased attitude toward their students we've read lots of scenes where McGonagal has motherly feelings toward Harry...and probably all of the Gryffindors. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 00:14:13 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:14:13 -0000 Subject: JKR website Update Message-ID: Jo's website has been updated. There's a new Wizard of the Month: Artemisia Lufkin (1754 ? 1825) First witch to become Minister for Magic And on the news section there's something new: an e-scam *about* HP&HBP. Juli From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 1 00:15:09 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:15:09 -0000 Subject: Sirius in GoF Movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: SSSusan: > > I followed that link, Julie, and just to clarify, that's *not* > > an image from GoF filming, correct? Are you just saying that > > the particular photo displayed there is how you expected him to > > look in the HP movies? I just ask because, looking at the > > clothing and GO's age, it appears to be a photo from a much > > older movie. Juli again: > oooh. I was sure it was a GoF picture. I'm sooo disappointed, I > expected him to look just like that in the movies. Have you > actually seen any pictures of Gary Oldman for GoF? I'd appreciate > it a lot > Juli, almost crying SSSusan: I'm sorry, Juli -- I didn't mean to make you sad. :-( I try to check TLC or DanRadcliffe.com or RupertGrint.net every couple of days to check on book/movie news and to see if there are any new GoF filming photos. So far I've seen *nothing* with Gary Oldman in them. Anybody else? Siriusly Snapey Susan From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 00:17:51 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:17:51 -0000 Subject: JKR website Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Me earlier: > Jo's website has been updated. > There's a new Wizard of the Month: Artemisia Lufkin > (1754 ? 1825) First witch to become Minister for Magic > And on the news section there's something new: an e-scam *about* > HP&HBP. > > Juli Ooops, I forgot an update: In the Extra Stuff section: Owls -> about so many people who are getting owls as pets From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 1 00:46:14 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:46:14 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR website Update Message-ID: <1b9.c2c77e6.2f302b56@aol.com> In a message dated 1/31/2005 4:32:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, jlnbtr at yahoo.com writes: Me earlier: > Jo's website has been updated. > There's a new Wizard of the Month: Artemisia Lufkin > (1754 ? 1825) First witch to become Minister for Magic > And on the news section there's something new: an e-scam *about* > HP&HBP. > > Juli Ooops, I forgot an update: In the Extra Stuff section: Owls -> about so many people who are getting owls as pets ************************************************************* Chancie: There is also an update in the "rubbish bin" section, about her new 15 bedroom mansion. Just thought I'd pass that along as well! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tonks_op at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 01:43:10 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:43:10 -0000 Subject: Indiana GOF movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" > wrote: > > Susan, > > > > Can I come too? We can all shriek together, if they give Hermione > molly's > > hug! Wouldn't it be great? > > > > Sherry > > Ok this is the other Sherry lol. I live just outside Chicago. Tonks here: There are a bunch of us from Michigan too. Indiana isn't that far. ;-) From tonks_op at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 02:29:33 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:29:33 -0000 Subject: Sirius in GoF Movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/index.php has pictures from the GOF movie. But I did not see any of Sirius. I don't think that he has that big of a part does he? What I want to know is who is the old blond woman? She doesn't look big enough or fat enough to be Madam Maxime. Tonks_op From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 1 02:57:39 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:57:39 -0000 Subject: Indiana GOF movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Sherry Gomes" wrote: > > > Susan, > > > > > > Can I come too? We can all shriek together, if they give > Hermione > > molly's > > > hug! Wouldn't it be great? > > > > > > Sherry > > > > Ok this is the other Sherry lol. I live just outside Chicago. > > Tonks here: > > There are a bunch of us from Michigan too. Indiana isn't that far. > > ;-) That's right! Just keep 'em coming! :-) SSSusan, Michigander by birth (and for a week each June) From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 1 03:02:04 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 03:02:04 -0000 Subject: Sirius in GoF Movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" wrote: > > http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/index.php > > has pictures from the GOF movie. But I did not see any of Sirius. I > don't think that he has that big of a part does he? What I want to > know is who is the old blond woman? She doesn't look big enough or > fat enough to be Madam Maxime. > > Tonks_op Yikes! If you're talking about Miranda Richardson, I don't think she'd like being called "old"!! She's Rita Skeeter. SSSusan From dhorton3 at cfl.rr.com Tue Feb 1 03:29:55 2005 From: dhorton3 at cfl.rr.com (D. Horton) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:29:55 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Baby question References: Message-ID: <006c01c5080e$4ca8ea70$6401a8c0@mom> Please don't compare your child to any one elses. She is unique and will progress at her own pace. As long as she is healthy don't be overly concerned about the talking. Just every time you talk to her speak in proper english (no baby talk) and say the words for everything in her world. repeat them a couple of times. She will catch on and then you won't be able to shut her up. Marydianne ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Baby question > > Hey Moms, and well Dads too for that matter, I was just wondering > if any of you could help me with something. My daughter is > nearly 9 months old, and she still doesn't talk. She is, and > always has been ahead of schedule as far as physical > development, but she still doesn't say any real words. > My friend's daughter, could say Mama, Daddy, Hi, and > No, by the time she was 8-9 months, and I am just wondering > if I should be worried. Her hearing seems to be fine, and when > her hearing was tested at the hospital at birth she passed. > If any of you could tell me when your kids started talking, > it would help me decide what I should do. > > Thanks!!! > > Chancie > > ~~~also, I did want to add, that she does babble, and > the baby sites that discuss developmental milestones > usually say babies start saying Dada, at around 6 > months or so. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from > posts to which you're replying! > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > From jillily3g at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 05:04:33 2005 From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 05:04:33 -0000 Subject: Baby question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My oldest daughter was an early talker, and there's a long, obnoxious list of words I recorded in her baby book. My second daughter did not talk early, and I remember worrying about her hearing, too, even though the test by the pediatrician and later a preschool screener proved that her hearing was fine. Around this same time, I started learning information to present in Discovery Toys demonstrations (Not an ad, as I'm no longer selling!) that included learning styles and language development. I finally concluded that she was more of a visual learner than an auditory one. It was a great help, especially when I knew that I had to be sure she was looking at my face to "get" what I was saying. The other thing I used to "teach" was on language development. I explained it sort of like this (It's been a looong time, so I hope this makes sense!): Children have different vocabularies: listening, speaking, reading (and writing). Before your child can say a great number of words, you could probably say to him or her, "Where's the ball?" and s/he would look towards and/or go get it. Children's listening vocabularies develop first. The more you speak to them, chatting, describing, reading (even if it's your favorite book) the more this vocabulary grows. After they've been speaking for some time, they could probably understand a T.V. script and tell you *all* about it, but if you handed it to them, they couldn't read it. In fact, their reading vocabulary usually doesn't catch up to their listening and speaking vocabularies until they're in about junior high. Of course, the more you read to them, the larger their listening (and speaking) vocabularies will grow and this will eventually have a positive effect on their reading vocabulary. In fact, one suggestion I read was to read aloud to your children as long as they'd let you and even provided "sneaky" ways to read aloud to your teenager, like reading interesting newspaper articles to engage them in thoughtful discussion. Of course I do this *all the time* with my teenage daugher. [Sigh] Maybe that's why I no longer sell ;-) Beth, whose girls all learned what i-c-e c-r-e-a-m spelled way before they could read, darn it From annemehr at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 05:29:30 2005 From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 05:29:30 -0000 Subject: Spelling never works - Was:Re: Baby question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Beth, whose girls all learned what i-c-e c-r-e-a-m spelled way before > they could read, darn it Not only do the kids pick up on that stuff right away, but we used to have a dog who could spell his own name. When we wanted to talk about him with his knowing, we spelled his name, "C-H-I-P-S," and it didn't take him more than a few weeks to figure out that was him. *eyeroll* Annemehr From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Tue Feb 1 05:47:35 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:47:35 EST Subject: Harry's Hug Message-ID: In a message dated 1/31/2005 9:32:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes: > >>"hmmm....I'm just wondering why everyone is so sure 'if' Harry does get > his > much deserved 'comforting hug' after the loss of Diggory, that it would be > Hermoine.....why not McGonagal? > Even if teachers are suppose to keep a non biased attitude toward their > students we've read lots of scenes where McGonagal has motherly feelings > toward > Harry...and probably all of the Gryffindors."<< > Yes, my guess is they will use McGonagal for the hug, if they keep it in at all. I hope they do. I will miss Julie Walters in this movie though ... I'm very concerned with all that is being left out! "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From plungy116 at aol.com Tue Feb 1 13:39:04 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:39:04 -0000 Subject: Sirius in GoF Movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman" > wrote: > > > > SSSusan: > > I followed that link, Julie, and just to clarify, that's *not* an > > image from GoF filming, correct? Are you just saying that the > > particular photo displayed there is how you expected him to look in > > the HP movies? I just ask because, looking at the clothing and > GO's > > age, it appears to be a photo from a much older movie. I think the pictures are taken from "The Scarlet Letter" (1995) where he plays Rev Arthur Dimmesdale, who has an illicit affair with Demi Moore... But the hair and clothes could very well be very similar to what he might wear as Sirius...Mmm long, black hair...Mmm Sarah xx From sherriola at earthlink.net Tue Feb 1 14:09:01 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:09:01 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry's Hug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c50867$952598d0$0400a8c0@pensive> I don't think the hug will have the same emotional impact from McGonigal, though they may give it to her, if they keep that scene at all. After all, to Harry, by this time, we know Molly has become a mother figure to him, even if he hasn't quite realized that yet. But Minerva is his teacher, and he would probably be even more embarrassed to have her hug him. I don't think it would be the kind of hug he'd want to get lost in, so to speak. But of course, better Minerva than Hermione! Or I suppose Sirius, but he and Harry didn't really have a hugging relationship, Harry being a teenager and all. Except when Sirius is padfoot. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com [mailto:LunaLovesHarry at aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:48 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry's Hug In a message dated 1/31/2005 9:32:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes: > >>"hmmm....I'm just wondering why everyone is so sure 'if' Harry does get > his > much deserved 'comforting hug' after the loss of Diggory, that it would be > Hermoine.....why not McGonagal? > Even if teachers are suppose to keep a non biased attitude toward their > students we've read lots of scenes where McGonagal has motherly feelings > toward > Harry...and probably all of the Gryffindors."<< > Yes, my guess is they will use McGonagal for the hug, if they keep it in at all. I hope they do. I will miss Julie Walters in this movie though ... I'm very concerned with all that is being left out! "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Tue Feb 1 14:16:51 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:16:51 -0000 Subject: Birthday greetings Message-ID: ***puts up decorations and places a large cake in the middle of a table laden with party food*** It's birthday greetings time again! Today's greetings go out to Allen V. Allen can be reached at bandguyhp at yahoo.com. Have a very happy birthday, Allen, and enjoy your day! Dizzy Elf :) (aka Mary Ann) From irishwynch at aol.com Tue Feb 1 19:06:55 2005 From: irishwynch at aol.com (irishwynch at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:06:55 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Sirius in GoF Movie Message-ID: <1e8.33e38587.2f312d4f@aol.com> In a message dated 1/31/05 6:34:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, tonks_op at yahoo.com writes: What I want to know is who is the old blond woman? She doesn't look big enough or fat enough to be Madam Maxime. That's Miranda Richardson. She play Rita Skeeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kempermentor at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 20:12:40 2005 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:12:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Jim F : Re: A new hope (not Star Wars related) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050201201241.70118.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Kempor earlier:" Right now, somewhere in this world, there is a Li'l Petey Jackson growing up watching these movies and expecting more. And he or she is thinking, "I can make this better." Jim thought: They should have given it to Hayao Miyazaki in the first place. Kemper now: I haven't watched any of his movies, but I'll rent 'Howl's Moving Castle'. Are you thinking the movies would have been better as anime (sp?)? Kempor earlier: "I will be posting how much I like the new Harry over that no-talent Daniel to which everyone else on the list will be sending me hate mail." Jim wrote back: ....while you stay home when Daniel makes another autograph appearance at the "Thirtieth Anniversay Harry Potter Convention"... and a special appearance by Steve VanderArk's brain, preserved at the soul of the Hogwarts!2050 computer system. Kemper responds: I don't know why you would wish Daniel the stigma of loser, child-actor who couldn't get any roles as an adult. Personally, I hope he uses his and his daddy's cash for some acting lessons. Seriously, when he's sitting on that big rock in the snow, fake-balling after he eavesdropped on MM and Fudge... it's laughable and lamentable. There are better child actors in the world. Have you seen 'Mean Creek'? So sure, I might be at home, but I'll be a watching dvd (or whatever the new tech is) with Rupert as it's leading man. ... I'm with you 100% on Steve. Lexicon is a gift to HP fans everywhere. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kcawte at ntlworld.com Tue Feb 1 20:34:42 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:34:42 -0000 Subject: Time wasting sites Message-ID: <005b01c5089d$77e17880$69206bd5@kathryn> Does anyone know some good, fun sites - like the Ad slogan generator someone addicted people to last year? I just lost my job - well actually I just quit my job but I'm currently claiming it was constructive dismissal (my former boss is a small minded bully who likes to belittle people and blame everyone but himself for mistakes while claiming he's treating them well and that any problems they have are their fault) - but anyway I feel like playing around and doing something completely pointless this evening (especially since I spent this afternoon re-writing my CV, setting up an appointment with the job centre, sending in applications for two jobs, and picking up forms for a couple of others - which is quite efficient for someone who's just been called lazy and unproductive if you ask me!) In exchange I offer the site below which is slow to load if you have dial up as it's a video, but well worth the wait, especially if you like cats. http://www.clean-your-screen-for-free-now.com/ K "The Loudest Noise Comes From The Electric Minerva." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 1 20:43:26 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:43:26 -0000 Subject: Jim F : Re: A new hope (not Star Wars related) In-Reply-To: <20050201201241.70118.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Kemper responds: > I don't know why you would wish Daniel the stigma of loser, child- actor who couldn't get any roles as an adult. Personally, I hope he uses his and his daddy's cash for some acting lessons. Seriously, when he's sitting on that big rock in the snow, fake-balling after he eavesdropped on MM and Fudge... it's laughable and lamentable. There are better child actors in the world. Have you seen 'Mean Creek'? > So sure, I might be at home, but I'll be a watching dvd (or whatever the new tech is) with Rupert as it's leading man. > ... I'm with you 100% on Steve. Lexicon is a gift to HP fans everywhere. SSSusan: That scene *was* awful, and I've complained about it elsewhere. Still, I feel compelled to "stick up" for Dan. He, of the three, has come the *farthest,* imo. I think Rupert has more natural talent, but I think Dan has improved the most. Part of that is that he had so far to move along(!), but I think he's worlds better than before. I also think -- snigger if you like -- that there is an *intelligence* in Dan Radcliffe's countenance which comes through, and that's something which anyone who were to play Harry should have. Expecting ridicule now :-) Siriusly Snapey Susan From sherriola at earthlink.net Tue Feb 1 20:53:02 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:53:02 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim F : Re: A new hope (not Star Wars related) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005501c508a0$05ffd8d0$0400a8c0@pensive> Actually, Susan, I agree with you. Though I think Rupert is the most natural actor of the three, I think Dan has come a long way, has really grown in his acting. He gets better with each movie and I have hopes for his future, if he can make the transition form child actor to adult actor. so few child actors actually do make the transition. sherry -----Original Message----- From: cubfanbudwoman [mailto:susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:43 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim F : Re: A new hope (not Star Wars related) Kemper responds: > I don't know why you would wish Daniel the stigma of loser, child- actor who couldn't get any roles as an adult. Personally, I hope he uses his and his daddy's cash for some acting lessons. Seriously, when he's sitting on that big rock in the snow, fake-balling after he eavesdropped on MM and Fudge... it's laughable and lamentable. There are better child actors in the world. Have you seen 'Mean Creek'? > So sure, I might be at home, but I'll be a watching dvd (or whatever the new tech is) with Rupert as it's leading man. > ... I'm with you 100% on Steve. Lexicon is a gift to HP fans everywhere. SSSusan: That scene *was* awful, and I've complained about it elsewhere. Still, I feel compelled to "stick up" for Dan. He, of the three, has come the *farthest,* imo. I think Rupert has more natural talent, but I think Dan has improved the most. Part of that is that he had so far to move along(!), but I think he's worlds better than before. I also think -- snigger if you like -- that there is an *intelligence* in Dan Radcliffe's countenance which comes through, and that's something which anyone who were to play Harry should have. Expecting ridicule now :-) Siriusly Snapey Susan ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From plungy116 at aol.com Tue Feb 1 21:10:58 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:10:58 -0000 Subject: Dan's acting (wasRe: A new hope (not Star Wars related)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman" wrote: > > Kemper responds: Seriously, > when he's sitting on that big rock in the snow, fake-balling after > he eavesdropped on MM and Fudge... it's laughable and lamentable. > > SSSusan: > That scene *was* awful, and I've complained about it elsewhere. > > Still, I feel compelled to "stick up" for Dan. He, of the three, > has come the *farthest,* imo. I think Rupert has more natural > talent, but I think Dan has improved the most. > > Expecting ridicule now :-) > Siriusly Snapey Susan The scenes that really get me are when he's in the Leaky Cauldron with Fudge and Tom is trying to tempt him with food offerings - it's like he's only got one way to say "no thankyou" Then, when he's trying to get Buckbeak away from Hagrid's hut and he's going.. "ok buckbeak? C'mon Buckbeak Ok? OK? OK?" ARGH!!! Is that his lack of experience? But then sometimes I really warm to him, on the Knight Bus, when he's angry or being comic...he's got some acting talent, and it IS improving...I think he's definitely growing with Harry, and he has the angst off to a tee. Rupert is definitely the most natural of the child stars, it'll be interesting to see their interaction as Ron gets annoyed and jealous of all the attention Harry receives in GoF - so far he's been like the comic foil, the Rodney to Harry's Del boy, the Morecambe to Harry's Wise, the Joey to Harry's Ross (trying desperately to think of a US equivalent to Morecambe and Wise!!). I know I'd be no actor, and it must be hard, Daniel IS Harry Potter now, and he's had to grow up and have all his mistakes in the limelight. I do enjoy the films, but sometimes they just make me cringe and wonder why they didn't go back and re-do some of it. Sarah xx From bboyminn at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 21:41:40 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:41:40 -0000 Subject: Trivia: How did it come to this? Message-ID: "'Hard-working' job ad banned to protect the lazy" A businesswoman has been banned from asking for 'hard-working' staff in a job ad because it discriminates against the lazy. Beryl King was told by a Jobcentre that her advert for warehouse workers discriminated against people who were not industrious. Beryl, 57, told the Daily Mirror: "I couldn't believe my ears. Has our world gone mad? bboyminn: "Has our world gone mad?" Apparently so.... Steve/bboyminn From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 22:33:45 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:33:45 -0000 Subject: Time wasting sites In-Reply-To: <005b01c5089d$77e17880$69206bd5@kathryn> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" wrote: > Does anyone know some good, fun sites - like the Ad slogan generator someone addicted people to last year? I just lost my job - well actually I just quit my job...Snip > > In exchange I offer the site below which is slow to load if you have dial up as it's a video, but well worth the wait, especially if you like cats. > > http://www.clean-your-screen-for-free-now.com/ > > K > > "The Loudest Noise Comes From The Electric Minerva." > *****\(@@)/***** Katheryn, I am sorry you ended up being put in the position of having to make the decision of leaving your job. It sounds like you are doing all the right things to get back on track and be where you want to be. Certainly you have the sense of humor that should get you places! I just loved the site! This one is seasonally late since it is about Christmas but it is very cute: http://www.fluffytails.ca/christmas.asp From kcawte at ntlworld.com Tue Feb 1 22:39:56 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:39:56 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Trivia: How did it come to this? References: Message-ID: <002801c508af$18dccdf0$69206bd5@kathryn> > Beryl King was told by a Jobcentre that her advert for warehouse > workers discriminated against people who were not industrious. > > > bboyminn: > > "Has our world gone mad?" > > Apparently so.... > > > Steve/bboyminn > > No not the world - just jobcentres. Bear in mind that whatever the original purpose of job centres they now have one purpose and one alone - get people off the unemployment lists. Consequently they want a) employers to submit ads that are as broad as possible so that they can shove as many claimants towards them and b) to get the unemployed into a job, *any* job. Having been on the unemployed side of this equation more than once I can testify to the way they work. *way* overqualified for a particular position - don't care, either go to an interview or we'll cut your benefit.On the other end of the scale I've been told to go for a job that I know in advance won't pay my rent (which isn't an extravagant rent, and I wasn't long term unemployed either, so *technically* the rules say I could still pick and choose a bit). I was told to 'move somewhere else' (I have a fixed term lease and couldn't quit that early in it - job centre reaction, yep, 'don't care'). Now I have no doubt that there are people who would rather claim benefit than work - but most people don't fall into that category. In fact most unemployed people I've met at job centres are more intelligent and almost certainly more competent than most of the staff (who in my experience will happily wander off because it's their tea break than deal with the long long queue of people waiting in line - grow up and drink your darn tea at your desk like most of the other office workers in the world). When I was working part time a while ago I actually met a staff member who needed a calculator to work out my wages (3.01 per hour, 3 hours per day, 3 days per week - hardly requires a PhD in mathematics). Not to offend any job centre employees on the list - I'm sure many of them do the best they can under stupid guidelines, I just haven't met any of them. K who can't believe she has to go through the job centre thing again but on reflection the morons there are still better than the former boss From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 23:22:04 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:22:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Baby question In-Reply-To: <006c01c5080e$4ca8ea70$6401a8c0@mom> Message-ID: <20050201232204.47860.qmail@web61008.mail.yahoo.com> Chancie wrote: > Hey Moms, and well Dads too for that matter, I was just wondering > if any of you could help me with something. My daughter is > nearly 9 months old, and she still doesn't talk. She is, and > always has been ahead of schedule as far as physical > development, but she still doesn't say any real words. > My friend's daughter, could say Mama, Daddy, Hi, and > No, by the time she was 8-9 months, and I am just wondering > if I should be worried. Her hearing seems to be fine, and when > her hearing was tested at the hospital at birth she passed. > If any of you could tell me when your kids started talking, > it would help me decide what I should do. > > Thanks!!! > > Chancie > > ~~~also, I did want to add, that she does babble, and > the baby sites that discuss developmental milestones > usually say babies start saying Dada, at around 6 > months or so. Now me: Neither of mine were coming out with anything consistant and recognisable before 12 months. Tabby (3) now speaks very clearly and Hermione (17 months) is a second child and I've long given up keeping count of her growing vocabulary. My advice? Relax for a bit and try not to get too wound up with milestones. I don't know what children's development surviellance is like outside the UK, (sounds like The Parent Police but our health visitor is wonderful), but I was advised not to worry as long as mine were babbling and responding to speech. hope that helps Sam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sherriola at earthlink.net Wed Feb 2 00:49:34 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:49:34 -0700 Subject: new LOTR group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <009c01c508c1$10e5e7a0$0400a8c0@pensive> Hi all, Excuse the non HP related post, but since this is OT-chatter, I thought I'd go ahead and post this here. Some of you may remember that a few weeks ago, I expressed an interest in finding a discussion group, similar to the HP for grownups concept, for lord of the Rings. well, having not really found what I wanted, I decided to form my own. So, today I formed a new group for the purpose of discussing the works of Tolkien, either in books or movies, or even in fan fiction. The group is just starting out, so anything goes at this time. The only thing I really don't want is discussions of Elijah's dreamy blue eyes or Orlando's whatever. Of course, discussing the actors and their roles and their feelings about the experience is perfectly on topic. I had an experience a couple years ago where I thought I was joining a discussion group for LOTR, but it ended up being a group to drool over Elijah and Orlando. So, that wasn't quite the place for me, since I am old enough to be the mother of either of them! anyway, if you are interested in discussing Tolkien in a fun and relaxed environment--well, I hope it will be fun--please feel free to join my group. It's called CouncilsAtRivendell You can join by going to the group site at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/councilsatrivendell Or you can subscribe by email at councilsatrivendell-subscribe at yahoogroups.com if anyone has any trouble joining, I can send an invitation and that should take care of it. Also, if you know any Tolkien, or LOTR movie fans, please send them our way. I'm not exactly sure how to advertise it, but hopefully, word will get around. thanks everyone! Sherry email and MSN messenger: sherriola at earthlink.net From entropymail at yahoo.com Wed Feb 2 14:45:20 2005 From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:45:20 -0000 Subject: Dan's acting (wasRe: A new hope (not Star Wars related)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" wrote: > Seriously, when he's sitting on that big rock in the snow, fake-balling after he eavesdropped on MM and Fudge... it's laughable and lamentable. > The scenes that really get me are when he's in the Leaky Cauldron with Fudge and Tom is trying to tempt him with food offerings - it's like he's only got one way to say "no thankyou" Then, when he's trying to get Buckbeak away from Hagrid's hut and he's going.. "ok buckbeak? C'mon Buckbeak Ok? OK? OK?" ARGH!!! Is that his lack of experience? The scene that makes me cringe the most: The scene right after the Fat Lady breaks the wine glass and Harry crosses the common room. It's as if someone had given him the line, " Banter, banter, light banter, now cheerful smalltalk and light banter..." This, of course, leads into the scene with the animal-sound candies which, although a cute idea, is so terribly done it makes me want to put a sack over my head for the rest of the movie. But I can't forget to mention *every* time Tom Felton mugs at the camera. I feel like I'm watching an episode of Laurel and Hardy, forgodsakes! I don't blame the kids for these awful scenes, by the way. I think the blame has got to be the director's. I can't believe he never said, "Uh, Draco, perhaps you could take it down a notch or two...or three." And to think : those scenes were the best of the bunch. The *really* bad ones were left on the cutting room floor! :: Entropy :: From alexpie at aol.com Wed Feb 2 16:02:54 2005 From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:02:54 EST Subject: Miranda Message-ID: <9d.588c54eb.2f3253ae@aol.com> Tonks wrote: >What I want to >know is who is the old blond woman? She doesn't look big enough or >fat enough to be Madam Maxime I know that this is an enormously youth-oriented culture, but really! A forty-six-year-old is not an old woman. Ba, who must have one foot in the grave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From carmenharms at yahoo.com Wed Feb 2 17:33:16 2005 From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:33:16 -0000 Subject: Trivia: How did it come to this? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Steve" wrote: > > "'Hard-working' job ad banned to protect the lazy" > > A businesswoman has been banned from asking for 'hard-working' staff > in a job ad because it discriminates against the lazy. > > bboyminn: > > "Has our world gone mad?" I learned a few years ago that companies can't give honest references anymore. I was told that if I was asked for a reference for a person who'd worked for me, I was to tell them NOTHING other than that the person had worked for me. If they'd been a bad employee I was not to warn the other company, because the person could sue our company for defamation or something. If they'd been a good employee I couldn't praise them, because then if they did something bad on the new job the other company could sue our company for recommending them. --snazzzybird, who absolutely hates the lawsuit-happy society and all that it hath wrought. From kcawte at ntlworld.com Wed Feb 2 17:57:33 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:57:33 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Trivia: How did it come to this? References: Message-ID: <002101c50950$ad205c60$69206bd5@kathryn> > > I learned a few years ago that companies can't give honest references > anymore. I was told that if I was asked for a reference for a person > who'd worked for me, I was to tell them NOTHING other than that the > person had worked for me. If they'd been a bad employee I was not to > warn the other company, because the person could sue our company for > defamation or something. If they'd been a good employee I couldn't > praise them, because then if they did something bad on the new job > the other company could sue our company for recommending them. > > --snazzzybird, who absolutely hates the lawsuit-happy society and all > that it hath wrought. > Well I haven't heard the bit about not giving good references before but i was under the impression that it's illegal to give someone a bad reference, you should just refuse to give one. K From dfrankiswork at netscape.net Wed Feb 2 18:54:24 2005 From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:54:24 -0000 Subject: Trivia: How did it come to this? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve wrote: > Beryl, 57, told the Daily Mirror: "I couldn't believe my ears. Has our > world gone mad? > > > bboyminn: > > "Has our world gone mad?" > > Apparently so.... Maybe the old adage "Don't believe everything you read in the papers" is relevant here. David From spin01 at aol.com Wed Feb 2 21:48:28 2005 From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:48:28 -0000 Subject: Trivia: How did it come to this? In-Reply-To: <002101c50950$ad205c60$69206bd5@kathryn> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Cawte" wrote: Well I haven't heard the bit about not giving good references before but i was under the impression that it's illegal to give someone a bad reference, you should just refuse to give one. > > K Basically the only way around this is that in most applications there is a place that says "work references" and then a spot for "personal references" depending on which space your asking for you can do the following. if it is work related then you can say yes or no he/she did or did not work for us. and then you can indicate the exact dates. thats it. on the other hand if you are giving a personal reference then you can get more involved in the question / answer part. if a prospective employer asks if this person is a good worker you can say yes/no if asked you can say I would/would not hire them etc. but in order to get the personal reference it has to be called at a persons home or personal cell phone not on a work related phone. sherry who deals with this daily lol. From Debby970095 at aol.com Wed Feb 2 22:37:13 2005 From: Debby970095 at aol.com (Debby970095 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:37:13 EST Subject: Saw 'em! Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seeking those yanked GOF pics? Message-ID: Where are these pics? Any information would be great. What site were they yanked from? I definitely missed something! You can email me of list if you would like! Thanks, Godrica Gryffindor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bunniqula at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 01:03:20 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:03:20 -0500 Subject: Saw 'em! Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seeking those yanked GOF pics? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a2738400502021703486e5679@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:49:46 -0800 (PST), Debby970095 at aol.com wrote: > > Where are these pics? Any information would be great. What site were they > yanked from? I definitely missed something! You can email me I'm *way* behind on reading, so last I read for a little bit was Leaky Cauldron and Mugglenet pulled their copies of the 2006 GOF calendar (available at Amazon.com among others) pics per a WB request. However, Veritaserum still had copies up... Plus, various Dan Radcliffe journals had them as well. Dina From bunniqula at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 01:21:57 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:21:57 -0500 Subject: Speaking of TPTB, Enya goes after fanmade vids Message-ID: <1a273840050202172152d43086@mail.gmail.com> Speaking of TPTB, I'm only just now reading how Enya's legal reps are going after the higher profile sites that have fanmade vids (songvids/music vids - I dislike 'fan flick'... sounds too close to flicking something offensive) using her material. Heh, her music tends to be popular among the scifi/fantasy vid folk. With as much chewing out as folks get for illegal downloading of films not yet available on DVD, there's something... ironic about how songvids are a part of numerous fandoms, yet many of them are breaking copyrights, especially in the music industry. Dina From tonks_op at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 04:35:02 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:35:02 -0000 Subject: Miranda In-Reply-To: <9d.588c54eb.2f3253ae@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, alexpie at a... wrote: > Tonks wrote: > >What I want to > >know is who is the old blond woman? She doesn't look big enough or > >fat enough to be Madam Maxime > I know that this is an enormously youth-oriented culture, but really! A > forty-six-year-old is not an old woman. > Ba, who must have one foot in the grave Sorry. I am over 50. and she looks old to me. Not *elderly*. Just not 20 or 30 something. ;-) Tonks. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bunniqula at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 08:47:46 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:47:46 -0500 Subject: BBC: Dinosaurs died out from farting? Message-ID: <4.2.2.20050204034204.00a26bf0@pop.gmail.com> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/855813.stm {chuckle} Needed some serious Beano at that rate. I remember a trip to the Metropolitan Museum of Arts (I think that's what it was called - huge bugger of a place) in NY and being wowed by the exhibits. The ancient Egyptian one was featured, but I also enjoyed their dinosaur section... Heck, the whole place rawked. Dina From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca Fri Feb 4 10:00:01 2005 From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:00:01 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: Luckdragon: With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? 2) Is Snape a Vampire? 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? 9) Is Lupin good or evil? 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? 11) Who will die in book six? 12) Will Petunia perform magic? 13) Is Snape good or evil? From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca Fri Feb 4 10:07:42 2005 From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Bee Chase) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:07:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050204100742.16195.qmail@web52010.mail.yahoo.com> Luckdragon: With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Snape 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No, but I think his animagus is a bat. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Yes 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Snape 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Dark Forest 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia Bones 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Yes 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes 11) Who will die in book six? Hagrid 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From miss_megan at bigpond.com Fri Feb 4 10:19:45 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:19:45 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Retold people )was Miranda In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tonks said of Miranda Richardson Sorry. I am over 50. and she looks old to me. Not *elderly*. Just not 20 or 30 something. ;-) Tonks. > Which brings me to wonder, how old is old? What makes a person old (apart from age!) I don't think people are old (as a rule) until they are in their 80s. Of course it depends on what kind of life you are leading: I guess you could be old a lot earlier than that if you were so inclined. As for 'elderly', well that's for people who are frail, heading into a nursing home and dead within three months. storm, who is 34 in case anyone is wondering, has a g/f who is 20 years older than her and very sensitive about being so and who must go and feed the possums (and the birds and so on) even though she would much rather just go to sleep thanks very much. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005 From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 10:30:03 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 02:30:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050204103003.86373.qmail@web61005.mail.yahoo.com> Brenda wrote: Luckdragon: With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. now me: What fun:) These are my thoughts: 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Lupin or Lupin's father. I still think he's the lionesque chap in the excerpt we got from behind the door. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? NO 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I don't think so. I've forgotten who came out with the idea originally but I like the idea of Snape being a relative of Mr Borgin. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I'm not sure. Someone unexpected was I think, just not sure who. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? The Order will get to keep using it while the Ministry bungle through accepting the return of Voldemort and that Sirius is really both innocent and dead. At some point Harry, Draco, possibly Bella and Dean, if he was, in fact, Regulus' son and finds out about it, will stake claim to it. Dumbledore may reconsider his attitude in deciding what he needs to tell the teenagers for that one. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Where Hagrid left it:)On the tiny island at sea where Harry and the Dursleys tried to hide in book 1. This is such a gloomy place I've wondered if it is actually Askaban fortress disguised for muggle eyes. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia Bones 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I don't think he is really. He sort of needs to be an ordinary boy with the potential to be good or evil in my oppinion. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good!!! Flawed at times, but good. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I think he will. Some of his bothers will take a long time to forgive him though. 11) Who will die in book six? Lupin, Hagrid, Dumbledore, Nott senior, a few muggles including Hermione's and/or the Creevey family. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes, in defense of Dudley 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good, with a lot of issues. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 4 12:57:43 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:57:43 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? SSS: Lupin or Felix Felicis [if that's a *person* & not a spell] > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? SSS: Nope > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? SSS: I'm not convinced, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they were. > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? SSS: He may well have been -- *somebody* was, I'm sure, and Snape's a leading candidate, I suppose. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? SSS: Tonks > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? SSS: Probably in the Forbidden Forest > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? SSS: Amelia Bones > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? SSS: Possibly. I'm convinced he's the descendent of Bowman Wright, but I'm not positive about GG. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? SSS: Unequivocally, good. He has flaws & weaknesses, but he is good. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? SSS: This one's too tough to call for me. If he does, I don't think it'll be right away. > 11) Who will die in book six? SSS: My odds are on DD and/or Hagrid, maybe one of the "lesser but still close to the trio" students such as Seamus or Luna or Ernie MacMillan. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? SSS: No. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? SSS: He will (continue to) fight for the good side. I don't anticipate a switcheroo with him going back to Voldy. But he's not, nor ever will be, what one tends to think of when saying, "He's a good person." Siriusly Snapey Susan From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 4 13:01:05 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:01:05 -0000 Subject: old people (was Miranda) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tonks said of Miranda Richardson: > Sorry. I am over 50. and she looks old to me. Not *elderly*. Just > not 20 or 30 something. ;-) Storm: > Which brings me to wonder, how old is old? What makes a person old > (apart from age!) SSSusan: Definitely attitude, I think, Storm. As for Miranda Richardson, speaking as a 42-year-old, I'd **love** to look like as good as she does when I'm 46, as she is. :-) Siriusly Snapey Susan From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 13:26:56 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:26:56 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. Valky: Great questionaire Brenda! I'll be going through all my own 'wishful thinking that I was right' in July too with some other HPFGU members at The Prophecy Orb Group. Heres my best efforts to get more OWLS than Hermione in HBP. :D > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A Weasley > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, but their families were close. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I think yes, possibly. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? There will be no issue of that, I think. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Arthur 'hmm hmm' "confiscated" it. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? (hehe) Cuthbert Mockridge > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes > > 11) Who will die in book six? I hope nobody, but if I must answer, I will say Sybill Trelawney. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He doesn't want to be good, but he is not evil. | We are doing this and lots more like it at Row 97 ! Can you make Severus Snape Polyjuice ? Got an anagram for Droobles Best Blowing Gum ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Prophecy_Orb/ * * * | | | | _Signum Orbis_ From spin01 at aol.com Fri Feb 4 14:40:31 2005 From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:40:31 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" wrote: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I think it may not be harry but don't think it is nevil either. Maybe a Weasley or how about a creavy? 2) Is Snape a Vampire? NO 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? why does anyone think this? I have read it before and don't understand it 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? no 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? one of the sisters bellatrix or andromeda or narcissa they are next in line as far as age goes. the oldest is usually the one who inherit unless the family has one of those only the oldest son gets it things. then it would be harry or malfoy unless one of the sisters had a son we have n ot heard about yet. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? on island where he left it when picking harry up in sorcerers stone. he flew in and took a little boat out. used his umbrella as a motor remember 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? amelia bones or maybe 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? yes 9) Is Lupin good or evil? good 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? yes but it will be painful and only after one of the other weasleys die. it will probably be because of a funeral or whatever wizards do for that event 11) Who will die in book six? a weasley 12) Will Petunia perform magic? yes but not willingly and it will shock her as much as it does the others in her house 13) Is Snape good or evil? good but misses the dark stuff sherry From valy1x2 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 14:51:01 2005 From: valy1x2 at hotmail.com (Valy) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:51:01 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions References: Message-ID: > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. Valy's replies: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Snape, Remus, New character or Dumbledore. But Snape on top. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No way. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. But they may be related. Or their families being close. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? That's possible. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry, the MoM, OotP, or who knows... Snape? (his reflections about Sirius cleaning and all may be a hint? Wacko, I know.) > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In the forbidden forest? In Voldy's possession? (LOL) > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Dumbledore (????) Unbridge *dies*, Percy (Dude...) > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No. But he may do something to redeem himself and die? > > 11) Who will die in book six? Petunia or Mad-eye Moody, or Hagrid. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Possible. > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good, but on his own side. Valy. ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From zanelupin at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 15:12:26 2005 From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:12:26 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out > can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see > who was right about what. > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A character we have yet to meet, possibly as SSSusan said, Felix Felices (sp?), if that is indeed a person > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Definitely no. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Emphatically No > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Possibly. Someone else was there. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? The demise of Sirius will not be public knowledge, so the inheritance question will not be an issue in Book 6. Eventually....well, let's see who's left standing when all is said and done. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid has it. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Madame Bones seems to be a popular choice. I have no opinion other than it won't be Arthur Weasley. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? He wants to be good. He really really does. But then he goes and does things like....kill Sirius. ;-) > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Possibly. Reunited or not Percy will redeem himself in his family's eyes. > 11) Who will die in book six? ::fingers crossed:: Grawp! Dumbledore, a Weasley > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No, no, no. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's not evil. I'll leave it at that. From drliss at comcast.net Fri Feb 4 15:40:41 2005 From: drliss at comcast.net (drliss at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:40:41 +0000 Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: <020420051540.10797.420397790001809400002A2D22058863609C9C07049D0B@comcast.net> Oooh, fun! 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I'd like it to be Lupin, but I doubt it. (Although I firmly agree his dad's the "he" of the snippet!) Either someone we've yet to meet or Dumbledore. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Nope. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Nope. Snape hates Sirius because he was friends with Remus first (on the train) and Sirius "stole" Remus when Remus was sorted into Gryffindor. At least, that's how it started. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yes. Even though she's not JKR, I'd bet money mooseming's theory on Snape trying to warn James and James refusing to believe him because he can't concieve of Snape being good is right. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Depends if Sirius left a will. Either Harry or Remus if he did, Draco if he didn't. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In the Forbidden Forest, because you know JKR's OTP is the bike and the Ford. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amos Diggory 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? GOOD. Flawed, yes. But good. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Please, please, please YES. 11) Who will die in book six? Not a clue. But I'd put money on a non-Ron, non-Ginny Weasley. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yeah, I think either she, Filch, or Figg is the one that will perform magic late in life. 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good overall, but he's done some really evil things. Lissa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From maritajan at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 15:59:26 2005 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <020420051540.10797.420397790001809400002A2D22058863609C9C07049D0B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050204155926.484.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- drliss at comcast.net wrote: > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Nope. Snape hates Sirius because > he was friends with Remus first (on the train) and Sirius "stole" Remus > when Remus was sorted into Gryffindor. At least, that's how it started. I haven't heard any of the background about this theory. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. MJ ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From department.of.mysteries at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 16:00:19 2005 From: department.of.mysteries at gmail.com (Kaesa Aurelia) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:00:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:00:01 -0000, Brenda wrote: > > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can > then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was > right about what. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I don't know. There's so much speculation, but I think it'll either be a new character or a rather obscure (so far) one. It seems like if it were someone we knew well, it would have come up already, unless, of course, it's a Deep Dark Secret. > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? I vaguely remember JKR having said that he wasn't, or something, but I don't mean to step on any theories revolving around how vague her answer was. I just don't really think it's probable, and I'd rather Snape were just plain human, because if he's a vampire it sets back all of the character development and adds the Well Maybe It's All Because He's A Bloodthirsty Fiend! stamp. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I *really* like this theory. I'll give it a maybe. > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Eh. Nah. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I hope it isn't Harry, because a thousand fanfics are giving it to Harry, and I don't want to have to read it again. But it's possible. I think Harry, one of the Black sisters (Bellatrix, Narcissa, or Andromeda), or - since I like halfbrother!Snape - Snape are the top three choices. Let's hope it's not Bellatrix or Narcissa, is all. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? I think he either got it back or Hagrid gave it to Dumbledore. Arthur would've loved having something like that around, but if it went to him it'd have to go through Dumbledore, and I honestly don't think Arthur would want to keep something that had belonged to a well-known Death Eater and murderer. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? My vote's for Amelia Bones. Because she's neat. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? PLEASE GOD NO. ::cough:: I really don't want Harry to be the Heir of Gryffindor, because that, to me, says "Yes, blood *does* matter. Harry will save the world because he's descended from someone famous and important." Unless JKR manages to make it very clear that being the Heir has nothing to do with Harry's abilities or ethics, I won't like it. Personally, I want Neville to be the Heir of Gryffindor, because a.) I really like Neville, and b.) it would give Voldemort a reason to feel threatened by Neville The Other Prophecy Baby, and the fact that Voldemort chose the "half-blood" Harry over Neville, the Heir of Gryffindor to his Heir of Slytherin, might be significant. Then again, to be the Heir, either Alice or Frank Longbottom (whichever was the one related to Gryffindor) would have to die, and that'd be, well, unpleasant. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? I think he's good, just because JKR's always saying how he's one of her favorites. Then again, she might be being tricksy, and there *are* all of those gaps in what he says. It's just that I honestly would be more surprised if she accounted for them by saying he was evil than I would be if they were just silly mistakes on her part. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I really hope so. I think Percy's got a good heart, but he's trying to be Terribly Adult and Superior. It'd be a shame if he died before they were reconciled, and I don't think he's got what it takes to be a Death Eater. > 11) Who will die in book six? EVERYONE! ...erm. I honestly don't know. None of the Trio. Maybe Dumbledore? That'd certainly leave Harry nicely lost in the woods. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? I think this would be unutterably cool. Sure, why not? > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Hrm. I think he's good, but I wouldn't be surprised if Harry thought he was evil (as he has thought so often), or even by Snape actually questioning his own allegiance. I suppose he *could* end up evil, but it might be kind of a letdown after all of the parts in the books where he's EVIL and then at the end it turns out he isn't. He must be getting heartily sick of it by now. ~Kaesa, who's pretty sure she's wrong for most of these. From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Fri Feb 4 16:44:46 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:44:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502041144258.SM01332@devbox> > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I > thought it would be interesting to create a little > questionaire with our best guesses before the book arrives. > Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against > the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Neville Longbottom, or Seamus Finnegan, or someone we haven't met yet > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No, because JKR has said he is not. But all those bat and vampire references around him must mean something. In addition, we have had multiple references to vampires in every book so far, but never a glimpse of a real one. That also must have a reason. My guess is that SS is related to vampires, but not, perhaps, in his immediate family. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. Somehow, I think all the conversations about Severus by Remus and Sirius would have contained hints of this, if it were the case. (It is a lovely idea, though.) > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I *love* this theory, but I think it less than a 50/50 shot, so I'll have to say no. No, darn it, it fits too well. YES! (and LOLLIPOPS, too. He would only be motivated to be there out of love for Lily.) > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Either Bellatrix or Narcissa, for the simple reason that Sirius wasn't very practical, didn't think much about the future, hated his house, and for all of those reasons would never have gotten around to doing a will. Also, being the WW's most wanted criminal, it would be hard for him to file something that would be valid in any court. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In the back yard at 12GP, under an anti-rust charm. To be stolen if needed for plot reasons. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Someone we don't know. Certainly not DU; she ruined Fudge's career, and committed serious crimes in front of several witnesses. No one will want to protect her, and Fudge will gladly throw her to the wolves for ruining him. Percy can't possibly be MoM, at his age, although it's pretty clearly his life's ambition. Arthur Weasley has as good a chance as anyone, but he isn't likely to want it. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I would have said yes, but I think JKR shot this one down in an interview, so no. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. Definitely good, but cursed, of course. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No. He hasn't gone far enough down the road to Perdition yet. He won't realize what an idiot he is until he does something unforgivable, such as cause the death of an innocent person by his blindness. I think the most likely person's death for him to cause is DD, followed by his own father. After that, he will realize what he has done, and want to go back, but no one will take him. I think we will see Percy and Severus Snape show the two ends of the same journey. Percy will come back to the right side after committing a horrible wrong, and spend the rest of his life working towards an atonement he can never reach in life. SS has been working towards making his atonement, which is why he both hates Harry and protects him. > 11) Who will die in book six? Remus Lupin, possibly together with Peter Pettigrew or by his (silver) hand, and one of the Weasleys -- probably Arthur. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Possibly. I see no reason to expect it, but it's a nice idea, and she certainly could, if plot demands it. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? I don't think it's an either/or question. He strikes me as a nasty man, sadistic and cruel, but one who follows a strict code of ethics for himself. So he fights for what he believes is right, and does what he believes is the right thing, but gets his own emotions so wrapped up in his decisions that he makes a lot of bad ones. For reasons that haven't been made clear yet, his feelings are most mixed towards Harry. He does hate him, with far more passion than one would expect, even given his history with James. He still tries to do his duty for DD, though, even to putting himself at risk to protect the very boy he despises. All in all, he is a very sad character. I expect him to finally redeem himself, but only by giving his life for Harry. (and I don't think that will happen before the seventh book.) Vivamus From tonks_op at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 16:57:39 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:57:39 -0000 Subject: old people )was Miranda In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" wrote: > I don't think people are old (as a rule) until they are in their 80s. Of course it depends on what kind of life you are leading: I guess you could be old a lot earlier than that if you were so inclined. > > As for 'elderly', well that's for people who are frail, heading into a nursing home and dead within three months. > Tonks: Well I really didn't expect all of this from my off-handed question of "who is the old woman?" She was standing with the kids, and she looks a lot older than they do, you can see it in her face, hence *old* as opposed to *young* 20-30). So it was just a question, that is all. But now that this has gone on to be a discussion of age. If you are not *old* till you are 80, if you die at 78 does that mean that you were never *old*?? I am 58 and while I may not think of myself as really ancient, I do not delude myself; I know that people under 40 would think of me as old. That is not a bad thing. It appears that others here seem to think that it is, and I suspect look upon it with contempt. Why else would so many people push the definition back to the age of someone who is probably dead? If you are 10 a person of 30 is old. Being old is not bad. Being old for most of us is the beginning of wisdom. We look at the young... as... well... *young*. As in when someone under 50 does something stupid you say "well he's young!" ;-) There are many good things about being old. You get senior citizen discounts before you are officially a senior citizen (which I think is 65 and up) but the discounts start at 55. You don't have to care what other people think. You can wear whatever you want and no one says "or look what a bad outfit", for the most part younger people don't really see you at all, or if they do they don't care what you are wearing either, because you are just that old woman. It is not a threat to them and their sense of style because you are not in the same group, so they don't care. You don't have to take care of kids. You usually have more time to do what really matters in life instead of keeping up with the Jones and killing yourself climbing the corporate ladder. Often because you have already *been there, done that*. Etc. Etc. The down side is that young people don't show the respect that they do in other cultures where the *old* are revered for their great wisdom. We who are over 50, over weight, with things sagging, and wearing purple with a red hat, may not look like much but we do have a great deal of wisdom. We are the real wizards. Now if the youngin's would just see that!! Tonks_op who fears that I may have started it now... and going to hide out for a bit. From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 17:17:24 2005 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:17:24 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alla: I like this game. Susan, I decided to compare my naswers to yours. :) 1) Who do you think the HBP is? SSS: Lupin or Felix Felicis [if that's a *person* & not a spell] Alla: Lupin or Godric Gryffindor. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? SSS: Nope Alla: NO. She denied it, as far as I am concerned and I am not in "she lies to us" camp. :) 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? SSS: I'm not convinced, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they were. Alla: I cannot say for sure about half - brothers, but I am quite confident that they are somehow related ( cousins, maybe?) 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? SSS: He may well have been -- *somebody* was, I'm sure, and Snape's a leading candidate, I suppose. Alla: If you mean that James ALSO was there, then yes, it is a possibility, but not INSTEAD of James. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? SSS: Tonks Alla: Hmmm, is it OK that I will be a bit dellusional till July and say that maybe Sirius will come back? If he is not coming back, I'd say Harry. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? >SSS: Probably in the Forbidden Forest Alla: No clue. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? SSS: Amelia Bones Alla: I wish, but I am betting on someone evil. Not sure who it will be. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? SSS: Possibly. I'm convinced he's the descendent of Bowman Wright, but I'm not positive about GG. Alla: I will give 99% as a YES. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? SSS: Unequivocally, good. He has flaws & weaknesses, but he is good. Alla: Yes, Remus is good and nice. :o) 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? SSS: This one's too tough to call for me. If he does, I don't think it'll be right away. Alla: Either reunites, or will be one of Voldie's victims. 11) Who will die in book six? SSS: My odds are on DD and/or Hagrid, maybe one of the "lesser but still close to the trio" students such as Seamus or Luna or Ernie MacMillan. Alla: One of the Weasleys, maybe Hagrid and as someone said maybe she will be kind enough and kill of Grapp too. :) Dumbledore seems like a very logical choice, but I have my suspicions about it. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? SSS: No. Alla: Possible. 13) Is Snape good or evil? SSS: He will (continue to) fight for the good side. I don't anticipate a switcheroo with him going back to Voldy. But he's not, nor ever will be, what one tends to think of when saying, "He's a good person." Alla: Amen to that, except I want to add that I do think that his anger may lead him to do something bad DE style, but it will be temporary madness for him. :o) What I AM sure of is that he will get his redemption at the end, hopefully while he is still alive. From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 4 17:24:34 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:24:34 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <20050204155926.484.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MJ: > I haven't heard any of the background about this theory. Can > someone point me in the right direction? Try: 110109 Magda 122113 Renee & following SSSusan From maritajan at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 17:27:24 2005 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:27:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050204172724.9337.qmail@web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- dumbledore11214 wrote: > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? > SSS: Nope > > Alla: NO. She denied it, as far as I am concerned and I am not > in "she lies to us" camp. :) Well, actually she didn't exactly DENY it. I think her exact comment was "erm....I don't think so..." That's not exactly a rousing "NO!," is it? I'm in the "wait and see", along with the "I wouldn't be surprised", camps. ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From maritajan at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 17:28:07 2005 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050204172807.26249.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are these threads in the main HP4GU group? --- cubfanbudwoman wrote: > > MJ: > > I haven't heard any of the background about this theory. Can > > someone point me in the right direction? > > Try: > 110109 Magda > 122113 Renee & following > > SSSusan > > > > > ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 4 17:30:25 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:30:25 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <20050204172807.26249.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Marita Jan wrote: > Are these threads in the main HP4GU group? Sorry! Yes, they are. SSS > > > --- cubfanbudwoman wrote: > > > > > MJ: > > > I haven't heard any of the background about this theory. Can > > > someone point me in the right direction? > > > > Try: > > 110109 Magda > > 122113 Renee & following > > > > SSSusan > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ > Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com > > With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com From sherriola at earthlink.net Fri Feb 4 19:23:51 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:23:51 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007101c50aef$0f928810$0400a8c0@pensive> Luckdragon: With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Godric Gryffindor 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No! We've already had the teacher-is-a-fiercesome-bad-wild-creature routine. I'd be disappointed to see Snape a vampire. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I don't think so, but now that the idea has been put forth, I think they could be related. all those pure blood families inter marrying. Must be some reason Sirius made such a point of that to Harry. Just read that part last night in my reread of OOTP. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I don't think so. I'm not sure if I think someone else was there or not. But I don't think Snape. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I'd really like to see Harry and Lupin inherit it. If Sirius can be declared innocent, then perhaps his wishes will be followed. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? I'm not particularly interested in the bike, but I'd guess it's with Hagrid. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I'm hoping for Amelia Bones. We haven't seen much of her, but I like her. The WW may want someone whose good at law enforcement at this time. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? maybe. How's that for indecisive? Actually, I use t think he is, but someone who answered this earlier brought out a good point. If so, it might ten imply that blood does matter after all. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD!!!!! 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I really hope so. I can't accept ESE Percy or even always selfish ambition riddled Percy. I keep thinking about his reactions to Ginny's kidnapping in COS and Ron's part in the second task in GOF. perky was described as being white--with fear?-- when he ran into the water to grab Ron. I just can't think that person will deny his family forever. 11) Who will die in book six? Shudder! maybe a Weasley. maybe, Hagrid or Dumbledore. But everyone expects Dumbledore to die, so maybe she will surprise us and leave him alive. I really don't want anyone but bad guys to die. And isn't it time for a bad guy to die? Before OOTP, I resolutely tried not to figure that out and wouldn't read anything related to it, till I'd finished the book. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? I'd like it to be her or Mrs. Figg. 13) Is Snape good or evil? I don't think he's evil. He may never be nice, but I think he is good. sherry ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 16:49:39 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:49:39 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: This is too much fun! Luckdragon, you should compile statistics when everyone is done. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Haven't the slightest clue, but think it's someone new. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Spare me. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? That would be too cool if they were, but I don't think so. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Don't think so. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? It will be so tied up in red tape that we'll never know. Although I'm leaning toward Molly Weasley because I think she'll be the only one left. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Forbidden Forest. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Who cares? Ha ha. Hopefully Amelia Bones - I found the final mention of Susan Bones in OoP to be somewhat strange. Why her? Everyone else that tests with Harry is in alphabetical order. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No, yes, no. Okay, no. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? No, he just can't let himself get too close to anyone, lest he rend and eat them by accident. Most people don't have that issue. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Nope. 11) Who will die in book six? Percy. Right after he sees the error of his ways. Probably a whole bunch of Order members. After seeing Moody's photo, I'm expecting the new ranks to be thinned. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes. From lunalovegood at shaw.ca Fri Feb 4 20:42:10 2005 From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:42:10 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brenda" wrote: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? GG > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yeah, sure > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? It'll revert to the goblins, for some unpaid debts? dunno... > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Repossessed (see above) > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Sure, Amelia > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Yes > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Percy who? > 11) Who will die in book six? Luna, Hermione's parents, Cho > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No > 13) Is Snape good or evil? No From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Fri Feb 4 21:24:20 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:24:20 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Luckdragon: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Maybe Seamus Finnigan or Dean Thomas? > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? God, no > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I don't think so but I wouldn't be too surprised if they were distant relatives > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No, Just Lily and James. Still haven't figured out *how* DD founf out > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Sirius left a will with Harry as his only benefactor > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Running wild in the Forest or at 12 GP > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I like the idea of Amelia Bones > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Extremely good > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I want to think they will, but my gut tells me not. > 11) Who will die in book six? Not DD > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes, not some very impresive magic, but yes, a little magic > 13) Is Snape good or evil? His is good...deep inside From jwdorris at cox.net Fri Feb 4 22:15:55 2005 From: jwdorris at cox.net (jsedorris) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:15:55 -0000 Subject: Significance of Ginny Message-ID: Sorry if this has already been discussed, I am newish to this group, but does anyone think there is significance that will come into play due to the fact that Ginny is the first female Weasley in many generations? Thanks, Jennifer From cwood at tattersallpub.com Sat Feb 5 01:21:28 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:21:28 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Somebody we haven't met yet who will be very influential in helping Harry eventually prevail over LV. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? He may be half vampire, if vampires are able to reproduce. I like the theory that he is not, but his animagus form is that of a bat. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, and I think it's a silly theory. There is no evidence to suggest it. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yes. And he was involved. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? After much deliberation, it will eventually be awarded to Harry, but he will never live there. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid stashed it in the FF. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Depends on how the call to arms goes; if the predominant view is still one of caution, a crony of Fudge's will be named. If there is action to be taken, Amelia Bones seems to be the favorite. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I'm guessing no, because (my theory) he is descended from GG through his mother, and there seems to be a patrilineal system of inheritance in the WW. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? No reason to suspect he is anything but good--at least when he is not a werewolf. Once a month, he cannot help but be evil. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? At the eleventh hour. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Percy, right after the eleventh hour. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes; eventually it will come out that she is a witch and always has been, she simply chose "mugglehood." > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Snape is Snape. He is good or evil, depending on the situation. He has a lot of guilt that makes him so angry and hateful (see #4). Ms Tattersall's 2 knuts worth From spin01 at aol.com Sat Feb 5 04:02:49 2005 From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 04:02:49 -0000 Subject: motor bike Message-ID: I have a question about the motor bike. the survery made me wonder. does anyone have it in canon that the motorbike has been seen or used at all after the sourcerers stone? actually any real canon saying it was used after he used it to fly baby harry to the dursleys. sherry From jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com Sat Feb 5 09:15:55 2005 From: jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com (mooseming) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:15:55 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" wrote: > > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can > then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was > right about what. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Historical, probably GG > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? no > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, but Snape is related to Lily and Petunia > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yup > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? At the Black House > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? No idea > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? As much as he is heir of Slytherin > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No > > 11) Who will die in book six? Dumbledore, to stop Harry sacrificing Fawkes, Harry will blame Snape. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes please! > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He hasn't chosen yet. From foxmoth at qnet.com Sat Feb 5 16:58:19 2005 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:58:19 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Lupin > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Not anymore. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Erm, I don't think so. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? No opinion > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? At Sirius's flat 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? No opinion > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? He has a conscience, but his character is too weak to resist Voldemort > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Not till Book Seven. He's Spy!Percy > > 11) Who will die in book six? Tonks, murdered by Lupin after she falls in love with him (but Snape will be blamed as Traitor to the Order) > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No way > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He has only a rudimentary conscience but great strength of character and loyalty to Dumbledore Pippin enjoying the weather out on this limb From jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com Sat Feb 5 17:18:14 2005 From: jo.sturgess at btopenworld.com (mooseming) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:18:14 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" wrote: > >> > Pippin > enjoying the weather out on this limb Ah Pippin Not waving but flying! Jo :-) From shalimar07 at aol.com Sat Feb 5 17:25:59 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:25:59 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions Message-ID: <1a9.30f23e72.2f365ba7@aol.com> Luckdragon: With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it would be interesting to create a little questionnaire with our best Guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was right about what. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Percy - but only because of Book 3, Chapter 4, page 63....Probably a big RED HERRING, but I can't find any clues anywhere else. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? no...but I think his Patronus would be a bat. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, but somehow related. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I think that's a possibility...who does everything else think yelled for Lily to 'Get Out.' It may also be why DD thinks Harry should say 'Thank You". 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I'd like to think Harry does but was Sirius in a good state of mind to leave a will? 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In Hagrid's possession in the Forbidden Forest. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Hopefully Amelia Bones. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Yes 9) Is Lupin good or evil? I believe Lupin is good now, but I also think there are things in his past that have not been revealed. Think about the statement he made about not being able to find 'paid' work. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes...but it will be almost too late. 11) Who will die in book six? Unfortunately....I believe it will be DD. :( 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes....In book seven, in a moment of desperation to save Dudley. 13) Is Snape good or evil? Neither....I think he just exist. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Unbelievable Blog of the Week recommends: The Lincoln Fry Blog. Read all about the French fry that looks like Abraham Lincoln. _Click Here!_ (http://us.click.yahoo.com/bBwbuA/eV0JAA/Zx0JAA/s4wxlB/TM) --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From barbfulton at yahoo.com Sat Feb 5 18:07:29 2005 From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:07:29 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is fun! I'm really enjoying reading everone's guesses! Here are mine... > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A historical figure-maybe GG. Hmmm, possibly NH Nick? Either that or Dean > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No! > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No! > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I think he overheard Wormtail telling LV and tried to warn them, but LV got there first. So, no, I don't think he was there-at least not before everything happened. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I don't think it will be an issue for a while. I think DD and the Order will keep Sirius's death hushed up. The only ones who could say otherwise are in Azkaban, and when they break out, I don't think they'll walk into the MoM to request a death certificate. Eventually, Tonks. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Only Hagrid knows! I think it's keeping the Anglia company in the forest. Maybe they'll mate-what would their kids look like! > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No, I like the thought, but I don't want blood to be important > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? GOOD! He's GOOD! And I want to see him with Tonks! He deserves some happiness! > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, but not for a while. Maybe not even in book 6. I think Molly will go back and try to see him and be rejected again. I think either Bill and Charlie will hogtie him, drag him to the Burrow, and make him talk to the family. Or, and I REALLY think this will happen...I think he will be approached and tempted by the DE's. He wants power, and they can offer it. I think he will go along with them on a mission, only to find out that the mission is to kill Arthur. He will be completely floored, save his father, and be reunited. The twins may never forgive him. And no, I don't think he will go so far as to take the Mark. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Attempts to kill Arthur, Molly, DD, MM, and of course, Harry. I think the people who will die in book 6 are: Lucius, a Weasley (I HOPE not a twin!), some schoolmates-probably Lavender, Ernie, either Crabbe or Goyle, and maybe Cho. Oh, and a load of Muggles, including one of Hermione's parents. I also think the ranks of the Order will be thinned-Hestia, Dedalus, and a few others. There will be one bog one,like Sirius. I don't want to guess who. I think that'll be the Weasley. Nobody in the Trio-I think the 3 of them are central to the final battle-3 different wand cores, 3 different "blood types." > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes, to save Dudley. And Vernon will not be amused! > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? I think good is too strong a word, but I think he is on the side of good. I think he will be heavily tempted to go back to LV, but he will not. He may cause (inadvertantly) a death-maybe an Order member. -Barb From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Sat Feb 5 19:28:20 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:28:20 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Significance of Ginny In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502051428258.SM01080@devbox> > Jennifer: > > Sorry if this has already been discussed, I am newish to this > group, but does anyone think there is significance that will > come into play due to the fact that Ginny is the first female > Weasley in many generations? Vivamus: Hello Jennifer. I think there must be. There is a lot to Ginny still that we haven't seen -- and there has been a lot that we have seen, but Harry didn't notice it, so it just slides on by and gets forgotten in the text. I haven't pulled them together in my head yet, but I'm pretty sure there are two female archetypal trios for Harry. The older trio would be his mother, MM, and Molly Weasley. The younger trio would be Hermione, Ginny, and Luna. I recognize this pattern (the archetypal trio of women who make the hero complete) from the wonderful Childe Cycle of Gordon Dickson; but he may have gotten it from earlier literature. (He wrote the first book using it [Dorsai!] in 1960 or thereabouts.) In that series, the hero is a convergent result of three different kinds of man, emphasizing extremes in body, mind, and spirit: the ultimate warrior (Dorsai), the ultimate philosopher (Exotic), and the ultimate faith-holder (Friendly). In the Childe Cycle, each aspect of the masculine must be balanced and completed by the complementary feminine, different in each case. In Dickson's books, there are also two trios who perform this function; one trio is maternal, and one is of equal partners. There is a twist in Dickson's books, however, which may be relevant to who Ginny is as the first girl Weasley in several generations. Just as the man goes through three lifetimes and three personality developments to become the first truly complete man, there is a woman who is developing similarly through three lifetimes to become complete as well, and they ultimately find true completion only in each other. It's very well done, and I won't spoil it for those who haven't read it by saying more about it, but it is well worth reading. What is relevant to Ginny is that the woman who finally becomes the full complement of the hero, Amanda Morgan, is a chosen child who waited several generations to be born. There are three Amanda Morgans, each of whom is a great leader of a great people, but there is a strong sense that the child Amanda Morgan will be the child of destiny. The analogy goes deeper than that, but I would have to run on for pages to go farther. Suffice it to say that I think Ginny may have been born at this time because Harry will not win without her. (In fact, we may find that another prophecy points to that -- maybe even the "and none shall come after" one that broke.) Getting back to Potterverse, Harry as a young man is quite incomplete. He has some extraordinary abilities, but he is also lacking many of the things that would come with growing up in a loving home with one's parents. He needs to be raised up by that body/mind/spirit trio in maternal form. The first woman in the WW he meets is Molly Weasley, who is motherly to him from the moment they meet. Molly strengthens and comforts his spirit. The second woman he meets in the WW is Minerva McGonagall, who is smart, strict, and sharp -- the completer of his mind. His mother, of course, represents the third in that trio -- and she has protected his body with her own, and he carries the blood of her sacrifice for him within his own body. He also has her eyes, which JKR has said is important (but not why.) The second trio of women who complete Harry as equals are still developing into their roles, but Hermione as McGonagall's prot?g? has been obvious from the start. Luna, with her silvery eyes, name, personal grief, touching struggles with being picked on, and matter of fact compassion, seems to be stepping into the role of spiritual complement to Harry. That leaves Ginny to pick up the third area of body complement, or soul-mate. One thing I *don't* like about this analogy, strong as it is, is that it most likely means that the older trio will have to be put out of the story before the younger trio can grow into their full roles. That's bad news for both MM and Molly, and I would hate to see either of them go. I fear, however, that may have been JKR's plan from the beginning, and I have to admit that the plot development aspects of losing either of them are stunning. BTW, I don't agree at all with those who complain that Ginny changes from books 1-4 to book 5. She acts in book 5 exactly as I've been seeing her act all along, but behind the scenes, as it were. The clues are there all the way through, even though Harry doesn't notice them. She does mature a lot in her fifth year, but not by any sort of a stretch. In short, I think Ginny was chosen to be born just as Harry was, and two of them will defeat LV, not Harry alone. Without Ginny, Hermione, and Luna, Harry will never be complete enough to do it. Hermione and Luna will in turn be completed by Ron and possibly Viktor. Ginny, of course, will be completed by Harry. Vivamus From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Feb 5 19:59:59 2005 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 19:59:59 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" wrote: > > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can > then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was > right about what. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Godric Gryffindor > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No! > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No - but Peter Pettigrew was - the Pensieve will allow Harry to observe Peter's memories of James' and Lily's death > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry - along with Kreacher, and Harry will have to make the decision whether to keep him (and be an enslaver) to free him (and provide his enemies with a goldmine of intelligence to be used against him and the OOP) > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? It's irrelevant, we will never hear of it again. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Two possibilities: 1) A brand-new character or 2) Albus Dumbledore. If 2), then Snape becomes the new Headmaster. Watch for - does Harry receive a high-enough grade on his Potions OWLS to continue to study with Snape? If he does, then it's Possibility #1 - if not, then Snape needs the job title change in order to stay central to the plot. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Yes > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? If he be false, O then heaven mocks itself. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, but not till Book Seven. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Trelawney (Voldy wants that Prophecy, and he'll need to do a Bertha Jorkins on SPT to break it out of her memory), one of the twins (or if not one of them, then Molly), Pettigrew (who'll redeem himself by sacrificing his life to save Harry). Dumbledore dies toward the end of seven and Hagrid survives the series. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Well, duh! JKR has all but told us she will. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? An evil-doer of good - CMC From slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 5 15:48:16 2005 From: slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk (slytherin_punk_pirate) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:48:16 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A new character related to Godric Gryffindor. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? I doubt it, but I think we might meet one in HBP and maybe he'll be related to, or at least know Snape. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I hope not, I don't really like that theory. Sirius is related to plenty of other characters anyway! 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I like to think that he was, but I don't think we'll find out until the last book. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Draco Malfoy. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid still has it, but may give it to Harry for christmas as DD gave him his Dad's cloak. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? A new character we haven't met (or who has been briefly mentioned.) I think someone female too. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No, I don't think he is related to any characters mentioned other than the Dursleys and his parents. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? He's basically good, with a few flaws. Not evil at all though (apart from the wolf which is out of his control). 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I hope so, it'll be a shaky truce, he will have to appologise and of course Molly will accept him back. The other Weasleys may need some time to forgive him fully. 11) Who will die in book six? Hagrid, a student in Harry's year (but not Ron, Hermione or Draco), one of the Creevy brothers, Mrs Figg. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No, but I suspect Dudley might. 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's not very nice, but I don't think he's evil. Again, I don't think we'll find out for sure until the last book. I just hope he doesn't die. ~ Wysiwyg From Erthena at aol.com Sat Feb 5 20:24:26 2005 From: Erthena at aol.com (werebearloony) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:24:26 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -> Luckdragon: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't be the HBP > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No no emphatically no! > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No no no! > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I hope it's Tonks > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Frolicking in the Forbidden Forest with the Ford Anglia > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I'd like it to be Amelia Bones but I get the suspicion that it might be Percy > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Genetically no, is he the heir of the Gryffindor spirit? That's uncertain (it is our choices who show us who we are after all) > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? I agree with whoever said yes > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I think he'll want to, if I were them I don't know if I'd accept his apology > 11) Who will die in book six? I won't know for another few months, ask me in June > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? I hope so! > 13) Is Snape good or evil? I abstain, courteously ~~loony From Erthena at aol.com Sat Feb 5 20:39:35 2005 From: Erthena at aol.com (werebearloony) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:39:35 -0000 Subject: Thoughts on OOP Message-ID: This all started after OOP came out. I was well, quite depressed, I had guessed the death would be Sirius, I saw the clues throughout the book. It was a miserable experience because I really, really, really like Sirius. So sitting there just after midnight I had this thought that popped into my mind and was so strong I did something I rarely do and wrote it in the book. When I reread (after hearing from all of you how unJKR it was) I likewise put my thoughts down. And it became a tradition, to put my thoughts down after each reread. They show my very slow progression through the stages of grief (I don't think I retained much after p. 806 am. ed. until a year later) And I thought that once I got to 10 I'd post them all for you to see. 1) Harry's an idiot and I hate JKR (6-22-1003) 2) But you've got to admit she's got style (8-11-2003) 3) Will the pain never end (9-29-2003) 4) No! why did Harry have to crucio her? (2-11-2004) 5) Has Umbridge set dementors on me as well? (3-8-2004) 6) Harry's stupid but I feel sorry for him (5-2-2004) 7) Ouch (6-30-2004) 8) Someday my prince will come (8-11-2004) 9) Like a cheese grater to the soul and confusing to boot (11-15- 2004) 10) The weight of the ring is nothing compared to this (2-5-2005) So those are my thoughts on OOP. Somday my prince will come and I'll write a comment in that as well. ~~loony From sherriola at earthlink.net Sat Feb 5 20:48:13 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:48:13 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thoughts on OOP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005201c50bc4$03564c50$0400a8c0@pensive> I must be the only person in the world who doesn't think Harry was bad for attempting the cruciatus curse on leStrange. Grieve is such an odd thing and makes you act sop weird. If I watched someone kill my father in front of my eyes, I might try to kill them with my bare hands in the first wild rage of guilt. I've always thought his actions were understandable, and the fact that he couldn't do it effectively says that his heart couldn't seriously desire to do tat even to her. So, to me, in his heart he was still right and honorable, and shouldn't be held accountable for his actions in his first wild rush of grief and anger. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: werebearloony [mailto:Erthena at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:40 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thoughts on OOP This all started after OOP came out. I was well, quite depressed, I had guessed the death would be Sirius, I saw the clues throughout the book. It was a miserable experience because I really, really, really like Sirius. So sitting there just after midnight I had this thought that popped into my mind and was so strong I did something I rarely do and wrote it in the book. When I reread (after hearing from all of you how unJKR it was) I likewise put my thoughts down. And it became a tradition, to put my thoughts down after each reread. They show my very slow progression through the stages of grief (I don't think I retained much after p. 806 am. ed. until a year later) And I thought that once I got to 10 I'd post them all for you to see. 1) Harry's an idiot and I hate JKR (6-22-1003) 2) But you've got to admit she's got style (8-11-2003) 3) Will the pain never end (9-29-2003) 4) No! why did Harry have to crucio her? (2-11-2004) 5) Has Umbridge set dementors on me as well? (3-8-2004) 6) Harry's stupid but I feel sorry for him (5-2-2004) 7) Ouch (6-30-2004) 8) Someday my prince will come (8-11-2004) 9) Like a cheese grater to the soul and confusing to boot (11-15- 2004) 10) The weight of the ring is nothing compared to this (2-5-2005) So those are my thoughts on OOP. Somday my prince will come and I'll write a comment in that as well. ~~loony ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Sat Feb 5 22:13:31 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 22:13:31 -0000 Subject: Birthday greetings Message-ID: ***decorates the room and puts a large cake on the table*** We have another birthday to celebrate! Today's greetings go out to Emeline. Greetings can be sent here to the List or to emy_vance at yahoo.fr Happy birthday, Emeline! Dizzy Elf (aka Mary Ann) From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 00:43:22 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 00:43:22 -0000 Subject: New Birthday Message-ID: We have a new Birthday on JKR's website: Arthur Weasley (Feb6) Happy Birthat Arthur!! From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 6 01:15:16 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:15:16 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luckdragon: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? werebearloony: > Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I > still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't be > the HBP SSSusan: And why is that? JKR made a point on her website of saying that Lupin is half-blood.... From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 02:11:16 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:11:16 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > werebearloony: > > Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I > > still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't be > > the HBP > > SSSusan: > And why is that? JKR made a point on her website of saying that > Lupin is half-blood.... Juli: I seem to have missed *something* on JKR's website, so please point me in the direction where she says Lupin is half-blood. Thanks! From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 02:23:31 2005 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:23:31 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: werebearloony: Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't be the HBP SSSusan: And why is that? JKR made a point on her website of saying that Lupin is half-blood.... Juli: I seem to have missed *something* on JKR's website, so please point me in the direction where she says Lupin is half-blood. Thanks! Alla: Juli, she also said it in March 2004 chat March 4, 2004: World Book Day Online Chat transcript. URL: http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2004/0304-wbd.htm From catlady at wicca.net Sun Feb 6 04:12:54 2005 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 04:12:54 -0000 Subject: JKR website Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" wrote: > > Jo's website has been updated. > There's a new Wizard of the Month: Artemisia Lufkin > (1754 ? 1825) First witch to become Minister for Magic What about Elfrida Clagg? From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 6 05:02:27 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 6 Feb 2005 05:02:27 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1107666147.889.33429.m15@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 6, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net Sun Feb 6 06:57:09 2005 From: KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net (Gary Sapp & Karen J.S.) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 06:57:09 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter in Get Fuzzy comic strip again Message-ID: Guess the artist is a HP fan, he has mentioned Harry in a number of strips over the last few years. This one is funny, especially if you know someone who is a D & D fan too. Karen http://www.comics.com/webmail/ViewStrip?key=34299238-a074ca0cb9-FF From naama_gat at hotmail.com Sun Feb 6 12:23:40 2005 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naamagatus) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:23:40 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? The big, big question. If he's the person described in the HBP quote (the lion like person), then I'd say Godric Gryffindor. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? I take JKR's answer as an emphatic 'no'. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. Since - if they knew of the relationship, it would have been mentioned. If the relationship exists without them knowing, it would make a horrible, soap-opera like scene. And anyway, Sirius is dead, wo what's the point (story wise)? > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Don't think so. No evidence for it. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? At Arthur's. Parts of it have been used to make the Ford Anglia fly. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? No idea. I was of the Arthur Weasley camp, but that got a firm 'no' from JKR. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? The whole blood thing is specificaly a Slytherin obsession. I don't think there is such a thing as heir of Gryffindor. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes. But possibly only after his heroic death. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Could be Hagrid. Although I really, really don't want it to be him. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Didn't JKR squash that possiblitly? > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's on the Light side. Not quite clear whether he will remain there - particularly if DD dies. Naama From paulag5777 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 12:39:58 2005 From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:39:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: <20050206123958.89627.qmail@web54505.mail.yahoo.com> Naama wrote: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? The big, big question. If he's the person described in the HBP quote (the lion like person), then I'd say Godric Gryffindor. Paula now: Humm...I still have this sneaky suspition that it's Dudley. Look at how he "roars" when angry and how big he's getting. Wouldn't that be a scream! ~Paula Gaon Visit Astrology With Common Sense: http://astrology.lab.co.il A wise person knows the stars, a fool is ruled by them. See Mythical Magical Creatures at: http://www.cafeshops.com/bft/311142 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sherriola at earthlink.net Sun Feb 6 14:48:07 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 07:48:07 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <20050206123958.89627.qmail@web54505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c50c5a$dfd64a40$0400a8c0@pensive> Naama wrote: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? The big, big question. If he's the person described in the HBP quote (the lion like person), then I'd say Godric Gryffindor. Paula now: Humm...I still have this sneaky suspition that it's Dudley. Look at how he "roars" when angry and how big he's getting. Wouldn't that be a scream! ~Paula Gaon Sherry now: But JKR has said there is nothing more to Dudley than we have already seen. I doubt he will be the one to do magic or the half blood prince. Another thought I've had on the subject, but I could never seem to get my thoughts together well enough to post to the main list ... in all the previous books, the title "character" has been something we haven't seen before or have barely seen, such as Sirius just receiving a mention in the first book and then being the focus of the third. Even so, we don't actually meet him till near the end. The philosopher's Stone we don't see till the end of book one, but it is the focus, in that it is what Harry and friends are trying to save. We never heard the chamber mentioned before book 2. In GOF, the only part the goblet plays is that it was confunded and it picks the champions, but it was not a main character. Even in OOTP, we had only heard the order mentioned briefly at the end of OOTP, and though order members and order business are scattered throughout the book, the order itself is not a main character. Does that make sense? So, my guess about the HBP is that it will be someone or something historical or barely mentioned in the past or something newly introduced in the book. much as I love the idea of Lupin being a prince, I don't think it will be so. Sherry G From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 6 16:02:22 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 6 Feb 2005 16:02:22 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1107705742.21.2395.m11@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 6, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From tahewitt at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 17:11:49 2005 From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 09:11:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <1107697617.2057.8930.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20050206171149.87300.qmail@web51706.mail.yahoo.com> This is fun! I'm probably not adding anything insightful to what has already been poasted, but what the hell! Tyler 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Someone we havent met yet. Or, the HBP and the heir of Gryffindor are the same person (see below). 2) Is Snape a Vampire? He might be as unplesant as a vampire, but no. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. Where did this come from anyway? Did I miss something? 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I woulden't be surprised if this turned out to be true. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry. Kreacher will be a sticky point, and if Harry keeps him, will strain his relationship with Hermione. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid stashed it away someplace, probably in the forbidden forest, hiding under an enchanted tarp. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Percey Weasley! ok, maybe not, but it would be, um, interesting! 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I hope not. I'm voting for Neville. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. Enough of this 'good, but flawed' BS. You want flawed, look at Snape! 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes. But possibly not until book 7. 11) Who will die in book six? Dumbedore, at the end of the book. Maybe one of the lesser Weasleys (no need to flame here, you know what I'm talking about!). Crabb and/or Goyle. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? I don't know, but it would be really cool! 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's just barely on the good side. He exists in a gray area between good and evil. He hates being thought of as good, but being evil consumes his soul. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From rachel.evans14 at btinternet.com Sun Feb 6 12:33:45 2005 From: rachel.evans14 at btinternet.com (rachel) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:33:45 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I'd like to think it is Crookshanks - although it could be a completely new character. That said, a small part of me longs it to be Neville (I just like his character more than any other) > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Maybe - or is linked to vampires in some way > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No - though again, there is more to their relationship than meets the eye. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Not sure - what would be the legal standing of an escaped murderer's will - it depends how the MoM treat Sirius after his death - will he get a posthumous pardon? > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hidden at Hogwarts - as it seems safest and most impenetrable place in the WW. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Essentially good - although he could be tempted when he becomes a werewolf. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No > > 11) Who will die in book six? I think it will be Molly, and perhaps also Seamus > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Of some sort, probably inadvertently (as Harry did in PS/SS. > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He will be loyal to DD; he would be too obvious a traitor for JKR Rachel From yswahl at adelphia.net Sun Feb 6 17:13:21 2005 From: yswahl at adelphia.net (tinglinger) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:13:21 -0000 Subject: Book 6 Questions + one more Message-ID: 1 Who do you think the HBP is? Draco Malfoy - Lucius is not the pureblood everyone thinks he is 2 Is Snape a Vampire? Yes 3 Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No 4 Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Interesting plot point - maybe he was trying to repay his debt to James by warning him 5 Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry - that is why he leaves Privet Drive early - unless he leaves with Luna after Goyle kills her dad and she comes to Harry for help 6 Where is Sirius's motorbike? At the Harley Davidson shop 7 Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Kingsley Shacklebolt -- he is in the order and trusted by the old regime. Caouldnt think of another more appropriate candidate. 8 Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No 9 Is Lupin good or evil? Lupin is NOT a death eater, but he is not good either. He may have been the one who killed Sirius in the Veil Room. His motives are not clear, but I think that he was extremely envious of Sirius' relationship with Harry and Lupin wants to be accepted more than anything. I mean, who can fathom the mind of a werewolf? 10 Will Percy reunite with his family? No - his death will teach the lesson that family is everything 11 Who will die in book six? Luna's dad One of the twins and either Bill or Charley Either Draco or Lucius Malfoy Ludo Bagman (but not before really betraying the Wizaarding community) Goyle Sr (later in the book after he kills Luna's Dad) 12 Will Petunia perform magic? No way 13 Is Snape good or evil? Snape is good but twisted. However, since he killed flies when he was a child, his actions will result in the death of whoever the wasp is that keeps on appearing whenever Harry is under stress) ... or is he the wasp? {shrugs shoulders} 14 What will happen to Luna? She will be a major part of Harry's life in Book 6 but will probably not survive HBP with her wits intact -- wouldnt it be ironic if she really ended up as Loony Lovegood? They get more closely involved after Goyle kills her dad. If you dont think this might happen, please reread pgs 862-864 in OOP very carefully. Also Luna was never on the train leaving Hogwarts, which sets all of this up. From averyhaze at hotmail.com Sun Feb 6 19:17:45 2005 From: averyhaze at hotmail.com (onnanokata) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:17:45 -0000 Subject: Help Finding an Essay Message-ID: There is a theory floating around that the 7 challenges in PS are related to the tasks that Harry must complete in each of the 7 boooks. Can anyone provide a link to an essay on this topic? Thank you in advance. Peace and Love, Dharma From shalimar07 at aol.com Sun Feb 6 19:38:56 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:38:56 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help Finding an Essay Message-ID: <1ec.3426c88a.2f37cc50@aol.com> _MuggleNet | Harry Potter Editorials / Essays / Opinion Columns - Archive_ (http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/archive/) You will find lots of editorials concerning the 7 tasks. Mum Weasley7 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Sun Feb 6 19:50:13 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:50:13 -0000 Subject: JKR website Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Me (Juli) earlier: > > Jo's website has been updated. > > There's a new Wizard of the Month: Artemisia Lufkin > > (1754 ? 1825) First witch to become Minister for Magic > > Catlagy: > What about Elfrida Clagg? Juli again: I just went to Lexicon and here's their information about Elfrida CLagg: Chief of the Wizard's Council in the mid-1300s, Clagg made the Golden Snidget a protected species, and set up the Modesty Rabnott Snidget Reservation in Somerset (QA). According to her Famous Wizards card, Elfrida Clagg was born in 1612 and died in 1687. This information doesn't jibe with with what we learn about her in QA. So according to this as stated in QA, she was alive long before Artemisa Lufkin and she wasn't the MoM, she was the Chief of the Wizard's council. In her Famous Wizard her dates are a bit different, but still no mention about being MoM. Juli From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Sun Feb 6 20:17:30 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:17:30 EST Subject: Brenda - book six predictions Message-ID: This is fun ... thanks for writing it up. Here are mine, based mostly on gut feeling. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Not sure...possibly Seamus since he's half-n-half? 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? God I hope not. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yes 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Shouldn't it be Bellatrix since she's still alive? Or perhaps Narcissa? I don't believe it will be Harry. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? The dark forest. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia Bones 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No 11) Who will die in book six? Percy! 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No. 13) Is Snape good or evil? I believe he's a bit of both. Evil mostly, but striving to right his wrong's but only for Dumbledore ... probably goes back to his abusive childhood ... always seeking a father-type's approval, and he may feel Dumbledore is like a father. But then that begs the question, does Snape have feelings? :) "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Erthena at aol.com Sun Feb 6 23:54:52 2005 From: Erthena at aol.com (werebearloony) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 23:54:52 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > werebearloony: > > Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I > > still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't be > > the HBP > > SSSusan: > And why is that? JKR made a point on her website of saying that > Lupin is half-blood.... loony: I merely had the realization that Lupin could not possibly be in CoS, where the HBP story originally was. Even though the story didn't work for CoS I can't see JKR breaking her pattern and introducing the new DADA teacher a whole book early (and Lupin is so vital to PoA that he had to be the DADA teacher there). So I'm looking for characters who could have been in CoS. Just my two pieces of copper ~~loony From catlady at wicca.net Mon Feb 7 02:41:43 2005 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:41:43 -0000 Subject: Book 6 Questions + one more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "tinglinger" wrote: > 10 Will Percy reunite with his family? > > No - his death will teach the lesson that family is everything If family is *everything*, then Sirius was wrong to choose the Light Side over his family, and Draco would be wrong to join the Light Side unless his family did so first. From nkafkafi at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 03:00:45 2005 From: nkafkafi at yahoo.com (nkafkafi) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 03:00:45 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Neri: My turn now: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? It's either Godric Gryffindor, or a character we never met before. > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Yes, but only metaphorically. He has a connection with the Dark Lord that makes him cold, perhaps part dead and having to feed on other people's fear in order to stay alive. But this will be found out only in Book 7. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, and I'll go even further: no two characters that we already know well will turn out to be closer than cousins. > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Not in person, but perhaps through his connection with Voldy. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? No opnion, but Harry will visit it only one more time, in order to speak with Kreacher and/or to check a critical detail in the family tree. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid used it to fly to the to the hut on the rock in SS/PS. Now it's probably running loose in the forest. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Not sure, but he will hold the job only for a very short time. The Minister after him WILL be Arthur Weasley ;-) > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No blood connection, but might be more abstract kinds of connections. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. He'll be one of the main instruments of Voldy's defeat. He has a meeting with Wormtail in Book 7 but he'll survive and in the epilogue he'll marry a beautiful witch who is also a wolf animagus. Once a month they'll leave the kids with grandpa and grandma and off to have a really wild night in the Forbidden Forest (OK, maybe I got carried away a tiny bit). > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? He might die and/or turn to the dark side, but he will meet his parents before the end. > 11) Who will die in book six? None of the central good characters, but several secondary characters will, such as: Percy, Moody, Lucius or Bella, Dean, Cho. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No, but she might use magical devices. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's on the verge. His decision to go this or that way will be instrumental, but this will happen only in book 7. In book 6 he'll do some good and some bad, and we'll all continue squabble about him. Neri From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 7 04:04:38 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 04:04:38 -0000 Subject: Book 6 Questions + one more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: tinglinger wrote: > 4 Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? > > Interesting plot point - maybe he was trying to repay his debt to > James by warning him SSSusan: I agree. Whether Snape was there or not that night, I'm convinced that part of why DD trusts Snape is that Snape had discovered the Potters were a potential target of Voldy's and decided to tell DD all he knew. tinglinger: > 7 Who will be the new Minister of Magic? > > Kingsley Shacklebolt -- he is in the order and trusted by the old > regime. Caouldnt think of another more appropriate candidate. SSSusan: This, I like!! Siriusly Snapey Susan From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 7 04:07:32 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 04:07:32 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: werebearloony: > > > Until further notice I'm saying Crookshanks (half-kneezle), I > > > still haven't cone down from the realization that Lupin can't > > > be the HBP SSSusan: > > And why is that? JKR made a point on her website of saying that > > Lupin is half-blood.... loony: > I merely had the realization that Lupin could not possibly be in > CoS, where the HBP story originally was. Even though the story > didn't work for CoS I can't see JKR breaking her pattern and > introducing the new DADA teacher a whole book early (and Lupin is > so vital to PoA that he had to be the DADA teacher there). So I'm > looking for characters who could have been in CoS. > Just my two pieces of copper > ~~loony SSSusan: Thanks for clarifying, loony. I see what you're saying, but since JKR said there was no *trace* of that storyline still remaining in CoS, I still think it's possible that someone not mentioned in that book could end up playing into this storyline in book 6. Siriusly Snapey Susan From punkieshazam at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 06:48:37 2005 From: punkieshazam at yahoo.com (punkieshazam) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 06:48:37 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: <20050206171149.87300.qmail@web51706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Someone we haven't met yet. Probably the lionine man described *behind the door.* > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. Too esoteric for me to follow those threads. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No, but he was probably lurking in the situation somehow. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry. Kreacher will, either accidentally or by his own machinations, be decapitated and then the decision has to be made about mounting his head with the others. Can you imagine the fireworks between Harry and Hermione over this. He thinks it's too gross and she just thinks that it's honoring Kreacher's desires. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In the Forbidden Forest. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I want Amelia Bones, but that is sensible and logical and where is the fun in that. The WW will coninue to make life difficult for themselves by appointing someone who will not be nearly so competent as Amelia, but a whole lot more entertaining. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? I'm with the yes but almost too late crowd. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Am afraid to even imagine. A lot of secondary and tertiery characters and one biggy. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes. There has been an old *spoon handle* knocking around in a Dursley kitchen drawer which is her wand. She is a one spell witch: scourgify! > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Poor Snape. He is now beyond evil. He is also probably beyond redemption. I believe that he is one of the faculty who has been married, that his bride died under the dark mark and that is what brought him back to Dumbldore. > Punkie From carolynwhite2 at aol.com Mon Feb 7 09:56:57 2005 From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:56:57 -0000 Subject: What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU Message-ID: Just to let people know that a discussion paper about this has been posted on the Feedback list. Admin are interested in people's views. Carolyn From paulag5777 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 10:19:29 2005 From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 02:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Book 6 Questions Message-ID: <20050207101929.12546.qmail@web54501.mail.yahoo.com> Sherry wrote: ...But JKR has said there is nothing more to Dudley than we have already seen. I doubt he will be the one to do magic or the half blood prince.... Paula now: Humm...I still just have this gut feeling about Dudley. All this makes me want to go back and re-read 1-5. JKR could be assuming we've overlooked something and is leading us down the garden path. ~Paula Gaon Visit Astrology With Common Sense: http://astrology.lab.co.il A wise person knows the stars, a fool is ruled by them. See Mythical Magical Creatures at: http://www.cafeshops.com/bft/311142 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From constancevigilance at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 15:45:42 2005 From: constancevigilance at yahoo.com (constancevigilance) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:45:42 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? James. Because of the inherited fortune and JKR's hedging on him. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Hope so, but doubt it. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. Don't they each have enough troubles without adding each other as relatives? Besides, that would make Snape Harry's step-godfather. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I think nobody will, but legally, I imagine that it should belong to Draco. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Dumbledore is keeping it for Harry, just like the invisibility cloak. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I think that there will be a schism in the Wizarding World with Lucius taking over as MoM. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No, but Lionman is. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good doggie. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes. Remorse is already setting in, methinks. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Grawp. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? You mean other than the Scourgify that she already practices? No. > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good. Other questions added by me: 14) Harry's stay with the Dursleys is supposed to be shortened because of something. What could it be? I'm predicting a wedding. Could be Hagrid/Maxime or Bill/Fleur. 15) Who will Hermione kiss this time? Let's see - could be Ron, Harry or Victor. I'm guessing: Hagrid! Proving that Hermione's kisses are between friends only. From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 7 16:43:49 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:43:49 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? CV: James. Because of the inherited fortune and JKR's hedging on him. SSS: Interesting that this is the first vote I've seen for James here. Is that b/c so many are expecting the HBP to still be alive, I wonder? > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? CV: No. Don't they each have enough troubles without adding each > other as relatives? Besides, that would make Snape Harry's step- > godfather. SSS: Hahaha! And think of the troubles that would cause Harry! :-) > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? CV: I think that there will be a schism in the Wizarding World with > Lucius taking over as MoM. SSS: How do you think Lucius will get there from Azkaban? And I don't mean his geographic path; I mean, what sequence of events do you think will get him out of Azkaban but still considered highly enough to end up MoM? > > 11) Who will die in book six? CV: Grawp. SSS: Yes. *Please!* CV: > 14) Harry's stay with the Dursleys is supposed to be shortened > because of something. What could it be? > > I'm predicting a wedding. Could be Hagrid/Maxime or Bill/Fleur. SSS: And I'm predicting your prediction has an excellent chance of being right. CV: > 15) Who will Hermione kiss this time? > > Let's see - could be Ron, Harry or Victor. I'm guessing: Hagrid! > Proving that Hermione's kisses are between friends only. SSS: I think her kiss will be with Ron, but I can't decide if it'll happen in Book 6 or Book 7. Maybe at the end of Book 6. Siriusly Snapey Susan From plungy116 at aol.com Mon Feb 7 16:51:56 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:51:56 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" wrote: Terribly behind on my e-mails, so haven't looked at any replies to this yet, so going off my gut instinct rather than evreyone's theories, here goes... > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? > NEVILLE > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? > NO > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? > OOH, GOOD QUESTION, MAYBE > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? > IN A GOOD CAPACITY OR A BAD CAPACITY? NO > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? > SIRIUS'S ILLEGITIMATE CHILD BY PETUNIA > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? > IN HAGRID'S ATTIC (DO HUTS HAVE ATTICS?) > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? > FRED AND GEORGE WILL JOBSHARE > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? > NO > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? > GOOD, DEFINITELY > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? > EVENTUALLY, WHEN THE TWINS WRITE A DECREE NUMBER 869... > 11) Who will die in book six? > GRAWP > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? > YES > 13) Is Snape good or evil? GOOD I will probably come up with some much better answers when I've read evreyone elses, and thought about it. Sarah xx From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 16:53:13 2005 From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (bamajenny12) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:53:13 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU References: Message-ID: <001501c50d35$85c2efa0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> How/where do we read this? Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: carolynwhite2 To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:56 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU Just to let people know that a discussion paper about this has been posted on the Feedback list. Admin are interested in people's views. Carolyn ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From plungy116 at aol.com Mon Feb 7 17:38:31 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:38:31 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I told you I'd come up with some better answers when I'd read everyone elses!! > > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? > > SIRIUS'S ILLEGITIMATE CHILD BY PETUNIA Sorry, I was being flippant. I think Sirius only got it by default, being the oldest son left, not left in a will. Therefore logic would mean it went to the next male heir of the Black family...which is...? Now if Harry is actually Sirius's son...sorry being flippant again... > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? > > FRED AND GEORGE WILL JOBSHARE Whoever suggested Shacklebolt has my vote. > > 11) Who will die in book six? > > GRAWP I think JKR might be double bluffing (has she ever actually said someone will die in 6 or 7?) If someone has to go I think it will be a minor character such as Grawp or Justin FF, Millicent Bulstrode... > Sarah xx From caseylane at wideopenwest.com Mon Feb 7 17:47:22 2005 From: caseylane at wideopenwest.com (Casey) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:47:22 -0000 Subject: Book 6 Questions + one more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1 Who do you think the HBP is? I'm going with a new character, with the off-chance it's Lupin. 2 Is Snape a Vampire? No, JKR said he wasn't and I believe her. 3 Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Interesting theory and I wish it were so, but I don't believe it is. 4 Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No, I don't think so but would be willing to be convinced otherwise. 5 Who will inherit the Black estate? If Black had time to make a will, Harry. If not then I'm going with Andromedea (sp?). 6 Where is Sirius's motorbike? Some place on Hogwarts grounds. 7 Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Mrs. Bones. 8 Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Possibly but I don't think so, perhaps Dumbledore. 9 Is Lupin good or evil? I think he's good, but there sure is a lot of evidence out there that he isn't. So, I'll say good but won't be surprised if he turns out evil. 10 Will Percy reunite with his family? If he doesn't get killed. 11 Who will die in book six? Possibly Percy, or another Weasley. Tonks or Hagrid are also possibilities. 12 Will Petunia perform magic? Yes, but not until book 7. 13 Is Snape good or evil? Good, but not nice at all. 14 What will happen to Luna? She will become a romantic interest for Ron in book six. He will just kind of fall into it by her design, not his. Hermione is going to have to become more proactive in her approach to Ron because of it. From carolynwhite2 at aol.com Mon Feb 7 17:55:03 2005 From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (carolynwhite2) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:55:03 -0000 Subject: What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU In-Reply-To: <001501c50d35$85c2efa0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: Jenny Here is the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hpfgu-feedback/ You will need to join the list, in the same way as you joined OTC etc. Carolyn --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bamajenny12" wrote: > How/where do we read this? > Jenny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: carolynwhite2 > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:56 AM > Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU > > > > Just to let people know that a discussion paper about this has been > posted on the Feedback list. Admin are interested in people's views. > > Carolyn > > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From carmenharms at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 18:08:32 2005 From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:08:32 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Brenda" wrote: > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. snazzzybird sez -- 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A new character ? possibly an Auror who returns to fight Voldemort. 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Yes, and that's why he tells Harry, "You're just like your father, you won't listen..." 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Tonks! It goes to her mother Andromeda, who doesn't want any part of it. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? In the Forbidden Forest. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia Bones. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, with a great deal of swallowed pride and humble pie. 11) Who will die in book six? One of the Dursley men ? Vernon or Dudley. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes. She's the one who caused the stem of Aunt Marge's glass to snap, when the old biddy was insulting the Evanses. 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good. He tried to be evil but just couldn't be evil enough, and that's why he left the Death Eaters. From n2fgc at arrl.net Mon Feb 7 18:28:04 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (n2fgc at arrl.net) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:28:04 -0500 Subject: Hello From The Road! Message-ID: <119004811951cf.11951cf1190048@optonline.net> Hi Folks, I've been seeing all the chatter mail, but haven't read through it all yet. Picking up my mail from the wireless network at a McDonalds down here in Deerfield Beach, so I can't send out as easily as I can receive. :-) I discovered something the other night which I had to bring to the list. I probably should bring it to the main list, but I've suspended my mail and don't want to have to wade through gobs and gobs before seeing replies. Anywhoo, can someone please tell me why there's a spelling incinsistency or if anyone has info on "D-I-M-E-M-E-N-T-O-R" in POA vs "D-E-M-E-N-T-O-R' elsewhere? It's driving me nutters, which isn't a drive...just a short walk. :-) Hope to be more in circulation soon...like end of next week. But I have really been enjoying my vacation! Cheers, and catch y'all later. Peace, Lee :-) (Sorry, no sig...sending from webmail.) :-) From rkelley at blazingisp.net Mon Feb 7 16:50:00 2005 From: rkelley at blazingisp.net (Rick & LeAnn Kelley) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:50:00 -0600 Subject: 6 questions Message-ID: 1) Who do you think the HBP is? A new character to be introduced - maybe the "lionlike man" from the chapter excerpt given to us from behind her study door. (But wouldn't it be funny if it turned out to be Lucius Malfoy? He could be the offspring of an elicit affair between his mother and a muggle. Would love to see his face upon discovering that!) 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No, but his father was, and Snape's patronus is a bat. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No way. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Nope. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I don't think Sirius made a will, so probably Narcissa Malfoy, Bellatrix LeStrange, and Tonks, along with any close Black relatives. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Transfigured into Buckbeak. (Not likely, but I saw that on another board and liked the idea.) 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Amelia Bones. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. That's Dumbledore, or maybe the HBP. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good, but he may be susceptible to the Imperious Curse because of his monthly weakness after transforming. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, likely after a tragedy when he can convince himself he's doing them a great service. He will always be a git. 11) Who will die in book six? Maybe Charlie Weasley, Lupin, Vernon Dursley, a minor Hogwarts teacher, some Death Eaters, and/or, of course, the new DADA teacher. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes. 13) Is Snape good or evil? Yes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From stbjohn2 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 19:29:21 2005 From: stbjohn2 at yahoo.com (stbjohn2) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:29:21 -0000 Subject: doing class reading, need recommendations Message-ID: Glutton for punishment that I am (I get very nervous speaking in front of more than 2 people at a time) I have agreed to be a guest reader for Read Across America Day at my son's school. I would like to read something from one of the HP books, and am wondering if anyone has suggestions on what would be a good selection (or if someone else has done this and what they used.) Specifically, it's supposed to be about 15 minutes worth of reading, and I am reading to 3rd graders. I'm thinking I want something somewhat self-contained, not the big, climax scenes where I'd have to explain tons of stuff that's already happened. I haven't really started looking thru the books, but my first thoughts are perhaps a visit to Diagon Alley (either first or 3rd book), or perhaps Harry's visit to the Burrow (book 2). Something with Fred and George would definitely be fun. (I actually think The Unexpected Task from GoF is hilarious and would be great fun to read aloud, but 3rd graders are a little young to see the humor in Harry looking for a date....) Thanks to anyone who has some thoughts to share Sandy From plungy116 at aol.com Mon Feb 7 20:37:24 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:37:24 -0000 Subject: The Last Word Message-ID: I've got a question. Whose scar will the last word "scar" refer to? My money's on Harry's...but could it be Dumbledore's map of the London Underground...or a mental scar...ooohhh the possibilities are endless. What are your thoughts oh great and wise wizard watchers? Sarah xx From msbeadsley at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 21:24:33 2005 From: msbeadsley at yahoo.com (msbeadsley) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:24:33 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Grawp. > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry. Or Remus will be trustee, etc. Or, lacking a will, the estate will be sold off by the MoM. Perhaps purchased by Mrs. Malfoy. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Hagrid has it stashed in the Forbidden Forest. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Madame Pomfrey. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Yes. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No, see question 11. > 11) Who will die in book six? See question 10. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? No. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Yes. On alternate Tuesdays. From Koinonia2 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 7 21:39:39 2005 From: Koinonia2 at hotmail.com (koinonia02) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:39:39 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Godric Gryffindor 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No. He's a half-vampire. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Probably. Or at least related in some way. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Maybe. Possibly Lupin also. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Don't care. 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? I have no idea and I don't care. :-) 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Someone we haven't met. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I go back and forth on this one. As of today, no, but check back with me tomorrow and the response might be different. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes. 11) Who will die in book six? I'd rather not think about it. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Doubt it but I wouldn't mind if she did. 13) Is Snape good or evil? Can't say just yet. I'd like to think he's good but I have my doubts. From smokyoraven at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 21:24:29 2005 From: smokyoraven at yahoo.com (Beckey) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:24:29 -0000 Subject: Memorabilia Message-ID: Remember in HPATCOS where Harry had lost the bones in his arm and he had to drink that awful stuff "Skellogrow"? Does anyone know where I can find that bottle? I think it would be a really cool adition to my collection. Any items from the movies would be cool but I think that bottle is awsome. Thanks, Smoky From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 21:47:01 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:47:01 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: I decided to start compiling the answers myself on a spreadsheet and the numbers are fascinating. Here is how they are falling so far: 1. Who is HBP? Leading is someone New, followed by Godric Griffindor and then Lupin. 2. Is Snape a vampire? 93% say NO. 3. Are Sirius and Snape brothers? 93% say NO. 4. Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? This is the closest race. 50% say No, 49% say Yes (1% Unknown) 5. Who will inherit the Black estate? Harry leads with 43%, followed by Unknown way back at 16%, then Bellatrix and Narcissa with 9.5% each. 6. Where is Sirius' motorcycle? 40% say the Forest, then 12.5% for 12 Grimmauld Place, followed by Island, Hagrid, and Unknown each at 9%. 7. Who will be the new MoM? Amelia Bones leads with 50%, followed by Someone New at 29%. 8. Is Harry the Heir of Gryffindor? 76% say No. 9. Is Lupin good or evil? 86% say Good. 10. Will Percy reunite with his family? Only 66% say Yes and most of those agree that it will be in Book 7 and only after some sort of tragedy. 30% say No Way, Percy sucks! 11. Who will die in Book 6? It's not looking good for the Weasley clan. They lead at 25%, followed neck-in-neck by Hagrid and Dumbledore at 13% each. Trailing them are the Granger family, Lucius Malfoy, and some Crabbe/Goyles. 12. Will Petunia perform magic? 66% say Yes with most leaning toward saving her Dudley from something. 13. Is Snape good or evil? 66% say Good and 27% say Unknown or Both. Only 6% say Evil. We shall seeeeeee.... Anyway, if you haven't voted yet, feel free. I'll keep compiling and post again if we get more. Nicky Joe From poppytheelf at hotmail.com Mon Feb 7 21:54:03 2005 From: poppytheelf at hotmail.com (Phyllis) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:54:03 -0000 Subject: What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carolyn: <> Carolyn and Barry have put a great deal of thought, time and effort into their ideas for improving HPfGU, and the list administration team is looking forward to receiving input from HPfGU list members on their proposal. Just a reminder - if you're joining the Feedback list for the first time, please make sure to read the directions on the home page before you start posting. Many thanks. ~Poppy Elf (a.k.a. Phyllis) From ms-tamany at rcn.com Mon Feb 7 23:47:14 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:47:14 -0500 Subject: What Price Success? Improving Posting Quality on HPfGU In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4207B7B2.23468.23AFB8C@localhost> On 7 Feb 2005 at 21:54, Phyllis wrote: > > Carolyn: > > < been posted on the Feedback list. Admin are interested in people's > views.>> > > Carolyn and Barry have put a great deal of thought, time and effort > into their ideas for improving HPfGU, and the list administration > team is looking forward to receiving input from HPfGU list members > on their proposal. > > Just a reminder - if you're joining the Feedback list for the first > time, please make sure to read the directions on the home page > before you start posting. Many thanks. > > ~Poppy Elf (a.k.a. Phyllis) Well, I joined up, I read the paper, I agree with it about 98.09% (roughly), and I'd like to offer my support. I'd also like to urge everyone here to check out the post themselves, which is why I'm posting this HERE instead of at the feedback list. *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Want to back-up your expensive DVDs? Check out DVD Wizard Pro: http://www.dvdwizardpro.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=398 Want to earn a Sony Vaio for only $5? Check out EZ Laptop: http://www.ezlaptop.com/index.php?ref=8574 From cwood at tattersallpub.com Mon Feb 7 23:59:12 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:59:12 -0000 Subject: The Last Word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" wrote: > > I've got a question. Whose scar will the last word "scar" refer to? > My money's on Harry's...but could it be Dumbledore's map of the > London Underground...or a mental scar...ooohhh the possibilities are > endless. What are your thoughts oh great and wise wizard watchers? > > Sarah xx "Congratulations on the birth of your son, Ron," said Harry, as he picked up his rucksack and prepared to leave to join the Chudley Cannons as Seeker. "Fortunately, he looks more like Hermione than you." Ron smiled broadly. "Yeah, he's obviously a very lucky kid--just like his Uncle Harry. Before you go--" He took out a bundle of Cuban Cohibas, each wrapped with a whimsical "It's A Boy!" paper band and offered one to Harry. "--have a scar." From shalimar07 at aol.com Tue Feb 8 00:22:38 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:22:38 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Hello From The Road! Message-ID: <192.39067ece.2f39604e@aol.com> My Editon...First Edition US Hardback says - D-E-M-E-N-T-O-R. I can't find the D-I-m-e-n-t-o-r anywhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Mon Feb 7 23:24:08 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:24:08 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1. Who is HBP? Someone new, I'm leaning towards the new DADA teacher 2. Is Snape a vampire? NO. 3. Are Sirius and Snape brothers? NO. 4. Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? NO. 5. Who will inherit the Black estate? Bellatrix or Narcissa 6. Where is Sirius' motorcycle? 12 Grimmauld Place 7. Who will be the new MoM? Dolores Umbridge. I don't think JKR will make it too easy for DD and the Order to fight LV. I think DU will say she was trying to tell Fudge all along that LV was back. DU is looking out for DU and will stop at nothing to gain power. 8. Is Harry the Heir of Gryffindor? NO. 9. Is Lupin good or evil? Good. 10. Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, evantually! 11. Who will die in Book 6? I can't stand to contemplate it. 12. Will Petunia perform magic? NO. 13. Is Snape good or evil? Both. Like Umbridge, Snape is only looking out for Snape. He's already shown he'll play both sides of the fence. I don't think its clear which side he's favoring, other than his own. From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Mon Feb 7 23:38:16 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:38:16 -0000 Subject: motor bike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" wrote: > > I have a question about the motor bike. the survery made me wonder. Does anyone have it in canon that the motorbike has been seen or used at all after the sourcerers stone? actually any real canon saying it was used after he used it to fly baby harry to the dursleys. > sherry Moondance: As I recall, the last we see or hear of the motorbike is Hagrid leaving on it to return it to Sirius. No, wait, Hagrid also talks about it at the Three Broomsticks in book 3, describing his perspective of the events that "fateful" night. As I recall, he doesn't say where the bike ended up. Its interesting, because in Book 1 Hagrid tells DD he's going to return it to Sirius, but doesn't Hagrid say in Book 3 that Sirius tells him to keep it, that he won't be needing it anymore? From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Mon Feb 7 23:53:49 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:53:49 -0000 Subject: The Last Word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" wrote: > > I've got a question. Whose scar will the last word "scar" refer to? > My money's on Harry's...but could it be Dumbledore's map of the > London Underground...or a mental scar...ooohhh the possibilities are > endless. What are your thoughts oh great and wise wizard watchers? > > Sarah xx Though I don't know about great and wise, I can make a guess. I would say Harry, simply because we're remided of his scar throughout every book and what it implies. From jennifer_maccherone at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 14:30:47 2005 From: jennifer_maccherone at yahoo.com (nifferhpfan) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:30:47 -0000 Subject: Rupert Grint Message-ID: I just read on The Leaky Cauldron that Rupert Grint hasn't finished reading OOtP! How is that possible? I don't know how I am going to survive until July 16th. I'm debating whether or not to read all the books over again again before then. And he hasn't even finished book 5! It boggles the mind. niffer From sherriola at earthlink.net Tue Feb 8 14:47:10 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:47:10 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Rupert Grint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c50ded$12e7ab70$0400a8c0@pensive> I just read on The Leaky Cauldron that Rupert Grint hasn't finished reading OOtP! How is that possible? I don't know how I am going to survive until July 16th. I'm debating whether or not to read all the books over again again before then. And he hasn't even finished book 5! It boggles the mind. niffer Sherry now Well, according to Sean Aston's autobiography about making Lord of the Rings, Elijah Wood never finished reading the trilogy, but he still did a damn good job playing Frodo. On the other hand, there were actors like Christopher Lee who had read the books every year for many, many years and knew them inside and out. And Aston claims he didn't even know what his agent was talking about when he was first asked if he'd like to try out for a part in Lord of the Rings. he went to a book store and asked for Lord of the Rings and was shocked to see ... was it several shelves? ... can't remember his exact description, but tons of LOTR and Tolkien stuff. So, I guess you don't have to read the books to be able to act in the movies, but I still think it helps. Or at least, if the director and writers have read the books it would help, because the direction and script can help the actor get into the part, even if the actor is somewhat unfamiliar with the story. Sherry G ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 15:13:07 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:13:07 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thought I'd add my few thoughts to the list, however inacurate they may be! 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Possibly Hagrid, possibly Lockhart (only based on the facts that he *was* in CoS, he *is* 'still lurking' (JKR quote) and the fact that his name (Gilderoy) may have relations to 'king' (roi). Far fetched, but possible. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Don't think so. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No, but there has to be more to that than we've been told so far. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? He was definately involved in something that night. Plus I keep trying to work out the significance that dream Harry had at the end of 'The Sorting Hat' in PS. It's the only dream I can think of that we have been allowed to see that Harry has forgotten. It involves Malfoy (we assume junior, but it could in theory be senior), who turns into Snape, whose voice then becomes high and laughing, and then we get the flash of green light. I think it suggests some sort of involvement. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Hopefully Harry, but the whole house elf thing could cause problems for him. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? confiscated by MoM? > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I have suggested Kingsley at some point. Still stand by it. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Yes. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? No. Never really liked him anyway. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Possibly a weasley. (I notice that the cenateurs already told us it's the innocent who die first, and Cedric and in particular Sirius have already died, both of whom were innocent.) > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yes. At least I hope so. It would be interesting to see how she, of all people, would be able to deal with it. > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? Good. Dispite everything, I trust DD on that one. Don't know why. So there's my few ideas to add to the loads already out there. :) Becky From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 8 15:40:38 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:40:38 -0000 Subject: Rupert Grint In-Reply-To: <002601c50ded$12e7ab70$0400a8c0@pensive> Message-ID: Niffer: > I just read on The Leaky Cauldron that Rupert Grint hasn't finished > reading OOtP! How is that possible? I don't know how I am going to > survive until July 16th. I'm debating whether or not to read all > the books over again again before then. And he hasn't even finished > book 5! It boggles the mind. You should take a peek at the whole interview that The Leaky provides the link to -- it sounds as if Rupert's a little lazy. At least that's the excuse he himself gives for not having finished it... and for not cutting his hair before GoF filming... and for receiving hours of detention for not doing schoolwork. :-) Siriusly Snapey Susan From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 8 15:51:23 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:51:23 EST Subject: Book 6 questions Message-ID: <1aa.3136befe.2f3a39fb@aol.com> In a message dated 2/7/2005 6:26:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, Chnc1024 writes: > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I really don't have a good theory on this, however, I don't see it being someone dead, unless it's Sirius, or James as someone else pointed out. I really just don't see there being any benefit to Harry if it's anyone else that's already dead. But who knows. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? It's an interesting theory, but since I never even considered it when I read the books myself, I'll say no. > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? I agree with Naama who said this would be very soap opera-ish, and again never thought that when I was reading for myself. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Maybe, but I really don't have an opinion. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Well, I don't really think it will matter much since only Dumbledore can allow people to have access to it. But I do think it would be funny if Mrs. Malfoy got it and then became enraged to find that the house had disappeared. But I really don't see how anyone would think Bellatrix would get it, since she's just as wanted as Sirius was! > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Some where on the Hogwarts grounds but greatly damaged by Hagrid after discovering Sirius was the reason for Lily and James's deaths. Harry will find it, learn that it belonged to Sirius, and have it fixed. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I wish it was Author since he really deserves it and could do a lot of good for the WW, but since JKR says "no", I guess I'll say someone we don't expect, that will turn out to be a DE. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I like the idea of whoever came up with Neville! It would add more to the 'Voldemort choosing Harry as an equal' thing. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Lupin is ESG!Lupin -Ever So Good =) {Ok, I know it's not as catchy as ESE, but oh well} > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, I believe he will but he will try to act like the whole thing never happened, and he didn't have a choice. Percy doesn't strike me as the type of person to admit his mistakes and actually apologize. Only Molly will truly welcome him back, causing problems in the Weasley clan. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Percy, he will try to do something Heroic, fail miserably, and possibly betray the Orders whereabouts, causing other deaths. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? I think it would make for interesting reading, but I'm having a hard time justifying it considering JKR says "...Petunia is a muggle..." > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? On a scale from 1 to 10 ( 1 being Voldemort, and 10 being saint) he's a 5.000005 . I believe he's looking out for himself, but he's loyal to Dumbledore (at lest for now). Chancie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Tue Feb 8 19:02:47 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:02:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: the number three In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050208190247.10451.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> I've never been one to take much notice of the points made about numerology in Harry Potter. I've been corrupting a friend of mine, who is having a first read of Goblet of Fire at the moment. She says JKR seems to use the number three rather a lot in the first quater of the book and asked me if it means anything in particular. I'm not aware of anything, does anyone have other ideas? Or could point me to any interesting posts? Thanks lots Sam --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Tue Feb 8 20:27:39 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:27:39 EST Subject: Book 6 - Sarah Message-ID: <1aa.313c9477.2f3a7abb@aol.com> " 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? > >?? FRED AND GEORGE WILL JOBSHARE" HA! Thanks for the laugh out loud today! "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Tue Feb 8 20:37:07 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:37:07 EST Subject: Book 6 predictions Message-ID: <1d8.3679018d.2f3a7cf3@aol.com> Since we know Jo Rowling frequents the fan sites and reads comments and such, I wonder how amused she would be to see all of our predictions for Book 6? Or, perhaps, has she seen them already? :) Thanks for doing this Nicky Joe ... seeing the preliminary %'s for each prediction is informative too! Elizabeth .... aka "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Tue Feb 8 22:02:01 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:02:01 -0600 Subject: six books questions Message-ID: <035901c50e29$d19f4050$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [HPforGrownups] Book 6 questions 1) Who do you think the HBP is? What is the HDP? 2) Is Snape a Vampire? Snape? A vampire? strange, yes. Loathsome and yet pitiable at times? Yes. But I can't see him as a vampire. 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? Uh, don't think so. It doesn't fit. 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I'm not sure what you all are talking about there. I must not have read the books well. Fast is one thing, but truly read them? Will someone clue me in please? Thanks. 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I always thought Harry would inherit it being Sirius Black's godson, but again, I could be missing something, 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? See answer below. I like it; makes sense to me. Some where on the Hogwarts grounds but greatly damaged by Hagrid after discovering Sirius was the reason for Lily and James's deaths. Harry will find it, learn that it belonged to Sirius, and have it fixed. 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? I have to disagree with this answer here. I can't see Arthur Weezly doing a good job. Sometimes he comes across as so ... scattered! And all his fooling around with muggle things--I can't see the Ministry of Magic allowing *that* to happen. He would need to be more concerned with the MoM not Muggle things. I wish it was Author since he really deserves it and could do a lot of good for the WW, but since JKR says "no", I guess I'll say someone we don't expect, that will turn out to be a DE. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? I thought he might, but I'm not entirely sure. The scene in the second book when he gets the sword from the hat was what made me think he just might be. 9) Is Lupin good or evil? I think Lupine is good. He's the only good Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher that's been there since Harry started! And to think he got chased off because Severus Snape got upset at not getting an award--so he told about Professor Lupine being a werewolf. I like the fact that he appears again in HPOTP. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? See the poster's answer to this one. I agree wholeheartedly on this one. I'm just sorry for the trouble it's going to cause the whole family. Percy is just so proud and hates, like the person said, to admit when he's screwed up or done something wrong. Yes, I believe he will but he will try to act like the whole thing never happened, and he didn't have a choice. Percy doesn't strike me as the type of person to admit his mistakes and actually apologize. Only Molly will truly welcome him back, causing problems in the Weasley clan. 11) Who will die in book six? I'd like to say it's Percy, as the person says, but I'm not sure. Way too pat for me. I don't know who's going to die. I wish no one had to, but I suppose that doesn't make for a good book. What if it's poor Nevile Longbottom, after all the strides he seems to have made? Percy, he will try to do something Heroic, fail miserably, and possibly betray the Orders whereabouts, causing other deaths. 12) Will Petunia perform magic? LOL! That would be very funny ... but not practical. Too bad. Maybe she could trim Dudley's weight down a bit--that would at least be something good she could do with it. But it wouldn't work, because she doesn't like magic-wielders and magic-users anyhow. 13) Is Snape good or evil? I'd say snape is good, though I won't go so far as to give him a numerical rating on a scale of 1-10. Snape is basically good, but he has issues he still has to work through. On a scale from 1 to 10 ( 1 being Voldemort, and 10 being saint) he's a 5.000005 . I believe he's looking out for himself, but he's loyal to Dumbledore (at least for now). And now for my question, which I guess will make 14 14) Just who is Albus Dumbledoor anyhow? I mean, who is he *really*? I have theories, but I would like to see your answers first. Jane From sherriola at earthlink.net Tue Feb 8 23:34:50 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:34:50 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] six books questions In-Reply-To: <035901c50e29$d19f4050$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> Message-ID: <008701c50e36$c9646570$0400a8c0@pensive> Hi Jane, Welcome to the world of HP for grownups in its various varieties. I'll answer your questions below under yours? 1) Who do you think the HBP is? What is the HDP? The sixth book is coming in July. The title is Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. There are a lot of acronyms used on this and other HP lists. For instance, book titles are usually abbreviated as follows: SS/PS: HP AND THE SORCERER'S STONE--UK VERSION AND CORRECT NAME, HP AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE COS: CHAMBER OF SECRETS POA: PRISONER OF AZKABAN GOF: GOBLET OF FIRE OOTP: ORDER OF THE PHOENIX Thus, HBP: HALF BLOOD PRINCE 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? I'm not sure what you all are talking about there. I must not have read the books well. Fast is one thing, but truly read them? Will someone clue me in please? Thanks. Godric's Hollow is where Harry and his parents lived when Voldemort killed James and Lily and tried to kill Harry. There is a lot of speculation that someone else may have tried to warn the Potters and was there at the time. Sherry G From cat_kind at yahoo.com Wed Feb 9 17:11:32 2005 From: cat_kind at yahoo.com (cat_kind) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:11:32 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: catkind: Hey, cool game! Here's my current set of delusions: > Luckdragon: > With all the theories and ideas we've been discussing I thought it > would be interesting to create a little questionaire with our best > guesses before the book arrives. Anyone that wants to fill it out can > then compare it against the real thing in July and we'll see who was > right about what. > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? So many zany theories ... today I'll plump for Voldemort's right hand wizard, whoever it was Sirius was suspected of being. (I don't buy Pettigrew as anyone's chief lieutenant, he's just a pet.) > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No way. > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No way. > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? Don't think so. He'd have done something if he was. He'd have loved to pay back his life debt to James. > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? First choice Bellatrix. Failing that Draco. Either way the Order's out. > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Running wild with the Ford Anglia. > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Does anything rule Dumbledore out? Perhaps it's time he put his hand more directly on the tiller. Being replaced at Hogwarts by his old friend Felix Felicis, feline lookalike and animagus. > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No, too obvious. > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good. > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes. > 11) Who will die in book six? Over the summer, a parent or close relative of a Gryffindor student. At the end, the HBP (see 1)), and Pettigrew doing something heroic to help Harry and redeem his life debt. > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? If so, then book 7 not book 6. > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's an evil bastard but he's on our side. catkind From ms-tamany at rcn.com Wed Feb 9 21:51:40 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:51:40 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420A3F9C.23569.23631E@localhost> On 9 Feb 2005 at 17:11, cat_kind wrote: > catkind: > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? > Running wild with the Ford Anglia. Tammy Rizzo: And we're gonna be faced with a small herd of blue three-wheelers with mighty chrome-y pipes coming to the rescue in the middle of book 7! *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Want to back-up your expensive DVDs? Check out DVD Wizard Pro: http://www.dvdwizardpro.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=398 Want to earn a Sony Vaio for only $5? Check out EZ Laptop: http://www.ezlaptop.com/index.php?ref=8574 From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 9 22:29:40 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:29:40 EST Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. Chancie http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From maritajan at yahoo.com Wed Feb 9 22:38:11 2005 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:38:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050209223811.49542.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very cool....I'm Hermione ISTJ mj --- chnc1024 at AOL.COM wrote: > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes > a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like > Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that > could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 9 22:54:32 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:54:32 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: In a message dated 2/9/2005 2:43:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, maritajan at yahoo.com writes: I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes > a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like > Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that > could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. > > Chancie http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm **** I also wanted to add, that the possible matches are Voldemort Serverus Snape Remus Lupin Albus Dumbledore Madam Hooch Hermione Granger Harry Potter Rubeus Hagrid Sirius Black Minerva McGonagall Fred and George Weasley Olympe Maxime Draco Malfoy Percy Weasley Ron Weasley Molly Weasley Hope you have fun! Chancie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 9 23:03:46 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:03:46 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > I was told about this quiz . > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > *****\(@@)/***** Argh! I got Severus Snape INTJ! I would have never thought I would have gotten that from what I answered! It was fun... Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Wed Feb 9 23:19:32 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050209231932.89208.qmail@web61006.mail.yahoo.com> dudemom_2000 wrote: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > I was told about this quiz . > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > now me: I'm feeling very flattered by this. I'm Dumbledore apparently! I would have expected Hermione/Molly, but I won't complain Thanks for the link Chancie Sam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 9 23:36:40 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:36:40 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes > a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like > Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that > could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm SSS: Oh, good Lord! I came out as Severus Snape! HOW is that possible? One, I've never rated an Introvert on any test like this before; two, I'm never snarky to a person's face; and three, I was a GOOD teacher (natch)! Sheesh. Siriusly SNAPEY Susan -- apparently more Siriusly than I realized. From bruney200 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 9 23:40:09 2005 From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:40:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050209234009.80374.qmail@web40509.mail.yahoo.com> It says I am ALbus Dumbledore. What a hoot. Tasha --- chnc1024 at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 2/9/2005 2:43:29 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > maritajan at yahoo.com writes: > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of > you might like to > > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions > long), and it only takes > > a second to get your results. On my first try it > said I was most like > > Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I > changed the answers that > > could go either way) I came out as being like > McGonagall. > > > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > > **** I also wanted to add, that the possible > matches are > > Voldemort > Serverus Snape > Remus Lupin > Albus Dumbledore > Madam Hooch > Hermione Granger > Harry Potter > Rubeus Hagrid > Sirius Black > Minerva McGonagall > Fred and George Weasley > Olympe Maxime > Draco Malfoy > Percy Weasley > Ron Weasley > Molly Weasley > > Hope you have fun! > > Chancie > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://simply-baby.net/tickers/pregimage.php?id=4193 our first baby boy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From joseph at kirtland.com Thu Feb 10 00:04:39 2005 From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:04:39 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I matched up with Severus also. Now I can either hold a much higher opinion of Snape, or else there are things in my personality that need improvement. Actually, I answered the questions somewhat conservatively. Yes, I can see Snape as a Conservative. :-) Joe --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" wrote: > > Argh! I got Severus Snape INTJ! I would have never thought I would > have gotten that from what I answered! It was fun... > > Dudemom_2000 > > *****\(@@)/***** From joseph at kirtland.com Thu Feb 10 00:39:35 2005 From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:39:35 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, I was quite surprised - I'm a Snape as well. Though I've been out of the Navy for ten years, my last assignment was an electronics instructor at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center. I received consistantly high markes in my performance evaluations as an instructor. I never really thought of Snape as a "bad" teacher. Harry is of course not an exemplary student, either. It certainly doesn't help matters that the two of them don't like each other. I've warmed up to Snape during my rereadings of the books. I somehow feel that there is some very important work left for him. I hope he doesn't disappoint. I have high hopes for Draco as well, as he reminds me of someone I once knew who had a major life altering change occur. Joe --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman" wrote: > > SSS: > Oh, good Lord! I came out as Severus Snape! HOW is that possible? > One, I've never rated an Introvert on any test like this before; > two, I'm never snarky to a person's face; and three, I was a GOOD > teacher (natch)! > > Sheesh. > Siriusly SNAPEY Susan -- apparently more Siriusly than I realized. From shalimar07 at aol.com Thu Feb 10 01:15:58 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:15:58 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: <59.20ec7938.2f3c0fce@aol.com> In a message dated 2/9/2005 4:37:46 PM Central Standard Time, chnc1024 at AOL.COM writes: http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm Good Lord.....I am Lord Valdemort.....Could I get any scarier???? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joseph at kirtland.com Thu Feb 10 01:26:24 2005 From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:26:24 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <59.20ec7938.2f3c0fce@aol.com> Message-ID: The quiz must be flawed. Do we honestly know enough about Lord Voldermort's personality (or Tom Riddle for that matter) to gauge them against others? Joe --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, shalimar07 at a... wrote: > > In a message dated 2/9/2005 4:37:46 PM Central Standard Time, > chnc1024 at A... writes: > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > > > > Good Lord.....I am Lord Valdemort.....Could I get any scarier???? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From swartell at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 01:31:04 2005 From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:31:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <59.20ec7938.2f3c0fce@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050210013104.84206.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> --- shalimar07 at aol.com wrote: > > Good Lord.....I am Lord Valdemort.....Could I get > any scarier???? Me, too. Thing is, I can't argue with the other part of the result. I always come up strongly INTP on Myers/Briggs tests, and it really fits very well. (I've actually spent a fair amount of time reading about M/B types.) I guess I just have a hard time seeing L.V. as intuitive and concerned with justice, which are 2 of the main traits usually ascribed to INTPs. There is a note on the results page for L.V. that says that INTPs are not inherently evil, and any of the types can be either good or evil. Still, I wonder if the person who assigned the characters to the types is SFJ. They might find INTPs alien. On a more pragmatic/cynical note, INTPs are the least frequent type, so fewer people will match and therefore fewer people will get mad about the results... Sue (bwahh-haa-haa - practicing my evil laugh) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. 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Sandy From department.of.mysteries at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 02:05:50 2005 From: department.of.mysteries at gmail.com (Kaesa Aurelia) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:05:50 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050210013104.84206.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <59.20ec7938.2f3c0fce@aol.com> <20050210013104.84206.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hee. All this OH NOES I'M VOLDEMORT stuff is amusing me, because I did a bit of testing on non-Pirate Monkey tests and apparently I'm hovering just between INTP and INFP - so that makes me somewhere between Lord Voldemort and Remus Lupin. ~Kaesa, who apparently personifies ESE!Lupin due to her apparent inability to choose between logic and emotion. From cwood at tattersallpub.com Thu Feb 10 02:31:48 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:31:48 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050209223811.49542.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Marita Jan wrote: > Very cool....I'm Hermione ISTJ > > mj Me, too! Although on another, completely different quiz, I was Percy. Ick. MsTattersall From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Thu Feb 10 03:16:30 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:16:30 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <59.20ec7938.2f3c0fce@aol.com> Message-ID: <200502092216447.SM01608@devbox> shalimar07 at aol.com: > > > Good Lord.....I am Lord Valdemort.....Could I get any scarier???? Vivamus: Yikes! Me, too! INTP Of course, it doesn't bother me, much, because my real name is Mr. Devoid Mortallo From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Thu Feb 10 03:58:59 2005 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:58:59 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. Hmmm...I took another online HP personality test a couple of years ago where I came out as Dumbledore - via this knock-off of Myers/Briggs (an inacurrate and discredited instrument, in my professional opinion), I came out as Lord Voldemort. "they see elements of the world around them as things to be shaped by their hand into something more useful" I suppose that might account for my addiction to filk-writing. - CMC (give me a bwah! give me a hah! give me a bwah!hah!hah!) From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 04:20:48 2005 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:20:48 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > > try it out. > > > > Hmmm...I took another online HP personality test a couple of years > ago where I came out as Dumbledore - via this knock-off of > Myers/Briggs (an inacurrate and discredited instrument, in my > professional opinion), I came out as Lord Voldemort. > > "they see elements of the world around them as things to be shaped by > their hand into something more useful" Alla: LOL! I took this test twice and at first I came out as Dumbledore a nd when I changed one question, I came out as Hagrid. :o) > > I suppose that might account for my addiction to filk-writing. > > > - CMC (give me a bwah! give me a hah! give me a bwah!hah!hah!) From faura2002 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 11:03:24 2005 From: faura2002 at yahoo.com (faura2002) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:03:24 -0000 Subject: Fwd: A GENIUS BIDS FAREWELL Message-ID: A GENIUS BIDS FAREWELL Critically acclaimed author Gabriel Garcia Marquez has retired from public life due to health reasons: cancer of the lymph nodes. He has sent a farewell letter to his friends, and thanks to the Internet it is spreading. I recommend that you read it. 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I have learned that when a newborn child squeezes for the first time with his tiny fist his father's finger, he has him trapped forever. I have learned that a man has the right to look down on another only when he has to help the other get to his feet. >From you I have learned so many things, but in truth they won't be of much use, for when I keep them within this suitcase, unhappily shall I be dying. - Gabriel Garcia Marquez From shalimar07 at aol.com Thu Feb 10 13:04:08 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:04:08 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: lol....You have me beat. Your name is too close to Marvolo. I'm just Mary! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 13:04:35 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:04:35 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > > Thanks Chancie cool fun. I did the test and it came out Remus Lupin. I changed one thing that I thought my personality hovered over and it came out.... Remus Lupin. LOL Just for a lark I changed one more thing that was ambiguous about me and, well, Remus again. Guess I am well and truly Remus Lupin hey. Valky From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 10 13:49:06 2005 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:49:06 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: CMC: > Hmmm...I took another online HP personality test a couple of years > ago where I came out as Dumbledore - via this knock-off of > Myers/Briggs (an inacurrate and discredited instrument, in my > professional opinion), I came out as Lord Voldemort. SSS: I'm with you in saying this is rather an inaccurate knock-off of M-B, Caius. I mean, take a look at these questions, for instance. 7. You are more likely to trust... your own intuition past experience Erm... would "past experience" refer to one's OWN past experience or the collective past experiences of others? So poorly phrased as to make the question invalid. 9. Which do you value more in yourself? logic sympathy 16. You'd rather be... overly-analytical overly-emotional There are MUCH subtler ways of getting at these issues than flat- out "choose one!" questions like these. For instance, I'd much rather be overly analytical than OVERLY emotional, but it doesn't mean I disapprove of my emotional attributes. I think this test attempted to get at info in such a brief questionnaire that the results may be awfully skewed. Don't get me wrong, folks, I think these things are lots of fun as a rule! But why not make it a better instrument so that the results aren't SHOCKS to those of us who've messed w/ M-B in the past? :-) Siriusly Snapey Susan, who knows she's really more like McGonagall than Snape From plungy116 at aol.com Thu Feb 10 14:41:14 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:41:14 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes > a second to get your results. I am Rubeus Hagrid. I have to say that initially I was a little taken aback, but on reflection he is so nice really, nobody could dislike him. Thats how I like to be, I hate to think that anyone would dislike me for whatever reason. ISFJs are protective and patient and reliable. they work hard and may be underappreciated because they do not seek out praise. ISFJs are very loyal to their friends. Introverted, sensing, feeling, judging IT IS ME!! Sarah xx From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Thu Feb 10 16:46:02 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:46:02 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: Looks like I'm the first Fred and George Weasley! Of course, I don't take this test seriously. There's a disclaimer stating its just for fun! That's me...fun fun fun!! ;-) Moondnace From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 17:08:24 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:08:24 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: I am Remus!!! Kinda cool actually, I just hope he isn't ESE... Juli From ms-tamany at rcn.com Thu Feb 10 16:49:53 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:49:53 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420B4A61.5925.227822D@localhost> On 10 Feb 2005 at 0:04, Joe Bento wrote: > > I matched up with Severus also. Now I can either hold a much higher > opinion of Snape, or else there are things in my personality that need > improvement. > > Actually, I answered the questions somewhat conservatively. Yes, I > can see Snape as a Conservative. :-) > > Joe Hee! That was fun. It says I'm INFP, like Lupin. Coooool. *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Want to back-up your expensive DVDs? Check out DVD Wizard Pro: http://www.dvdwizardpro.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=398 Want to earn a Sony Vaio for only $5? 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Last summer Rachael and 3 of her best friends were all pregnant together and had there babies within days of each other. At christmas time one of the girls baby died of sids. It was horrible. Sunday night after the superbowl another of the girls put her baby to bed and the next morning when she went in to get him up he wasn't breathing. An autopsy showed he died of sids. The is a horrible thing for any one to go thru but to have it hit this close knit group twice is just beyond belief. Rachael has been crying for days. She is feeling sad and she says she feels guilty because her baby is in his crib sleeping and Jessies is gone. Jessie is hysterical. I want to do something for this girl but don't know what to do. We are putting money in a card as she needs that. I am staying home and taking care of some of the children so they will not be at the funeral. i am cooking for afterwards for the family. but beyond that what can I do? this is a little girl who has been a part of my daughters life since 2nd grade. she was a bridesmaid in rachaels wedding. My daughter and this girl had there first baby's together and then this one also. she is a cousin of rachaels husband. how do you tell her everything will get better when it seems like nothing will ever be ok again. How do you ever reconcile yourself to a child dying? I have spent the last 2 days crying. I will be doing nothing and my eyes fill up with tears. I have tried to explain to chris and he is sorry but doesn't understand why it is hitting me so hard when it is not one of our kids. or our family. But we have grandbabies this age. and I am scared for them. My 9yr old says sometimes God just wants the baby back. I just got off the phone with rachael again. She wants me to get hold of the priest and get it set up to get them baptised. She does not go to church with us every week. But she was raised catholic and it is important to her. I am going to call and set it up. sorry to ramble. sherry From snowwy54 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 18:06:59 2005 From: snowwy54 at yahoo.com (Susan Snow) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:06:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050210180700.39751.qmail@web41303.mail.yahoo.com> Well I'm another Gred and Forge so I read where a few thought maybe they could have answered a couple of question differently so I took the test again and well... I was Voldemort. So I guess I like the first one better Snowwy54 --- moondance241 wrote: > > Looks like I'm the first Fred and George Weasley! > > Of course, I don't take this test seriously. > There's a disclaimer > stating its just for fun! That's me...fun fun fun!! > ;-) > > Moondnace > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Thu Feb 10 18:22:46 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:22:46 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050210180700.39751.qmail@web41303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Susan Snow wrote: > Well I'm another Gred and Forge so I read where a few > thought maybe they could have answered a couple of > question differently so I took the test again and > well... I was Voldemort. So I guess I like the first > one better > > Moondance: And to think I'm just an answer or two from that! Its a fine line between good and evil, huh? I'm with you...I'd much rather be Gred and Forge than the Dark Lord. From seuferer at netins.net Thu Feb 10 18:46:53 2005 From: seuferer at netins.net (shanti_50130) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:53 -0000 Subject: Haunted Chambers HP RPG run by adults. Message-ID: Haunted Chambers, a message-board style Harry Potter Role-playing game is preparing to enter Harry's 6th year at Hogwarts. We are owned and run by adults, and welcome both canon and original characters. We have a straight-forward screening process that ensures that our players have a solid understanding of book-canon so that even our Original characters blend well into JKR's universe. We do not allow `cross-overs' from other genres, but do encourage imaginative invention and blending of ideas gleaned from other sources into the wider magical world. We have forums for all time-frames within the Harry Potter world, from MWPP era through to `present-day'. We encourage our players to feel free to `bounce back' to student days to explore the history and interactions of their characters with other characters on the board. Year 6 will be conducted in a chronological fashion going forwards?but people are always welcome to play threads in earlier time-frames to establish relationships and histories with new characters. We currently are especially looking to fill two important roles. First, a creative Original Character to fulfill the role of the DADA Professor in year 6. Whether this character is loyal to Dumbledore, sympathetic to Voldemort, a lackey of the Ministry, or even a planted Voldemort spy (which Voldemort would greatly appreciate!) is entirely up to the applicant. Second, the new Minister of Magic. JKR tells us that Fudge will not be Minister in book 6, so for the purposes of our `game world' we have decided Fudge is up for re-election. Fudge obviously will not win?but who will? Again this entirely depends on the creativity of the characters involved, and we encourage `campaigning' either by the candidate him/herself or by those who wish that candidate to be `elected'. Assuming we have at least two `candidates', we will even conduct a vote through Private Messangers with the Administration Team to chose the `winner'. Again, will this person be sympathetic to Dumbledore or Voldemort? Or simply another politician who loves only power and tries to stay oblivious to the world around him/her? Other important needs include Muggle-born and Half-blood witches, wizards, and students particularly if you are willing to have your character's "extended family" be a ready target for DE games and attacks. The war is coming out into the open, and we need plenty of "canon fodder" without killing off our player-characters! Malfoy Senior and Junior would like to have the Crabbes and Goyles in play. Many canon Death Eaters and Order Members are still available. We prefer mature players (age 16 and over). The vast majority of our players are adults age 20 and over. We maintain a high-quality of character development and a good balance between encouraging people to be creative with their characters without becoming "Mary Sues" or "Gary Stus". Currently we have more female characters than male, and more `good guys' than `bad guys'. If you are curious, the homepage can be found here: http://www.hauntedchambers.net From slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 10 18:48:34 2005 From: slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk (slytherin_punk_pirate) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:48:34 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, it's a fun quiz, but I agree with the poster who said that some of the questions weren't thought out very well. Anyhoo, although it claims I'm most like Mouldy Voldie (errr...right) the text it gives you to explain your personality type made sense to me. Anyone else got any cool HP quizzes to share? I've yet to find a decent one that sorts you into a Hogwarts house. I may go about making my own. Cheers, ~Wysiwyg From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 10 19:11:14 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:11:14 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: <77.3ee9448a.2f3d0bd2@aol.com> In a message dated 2/10/2005 11:02:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk writes: Well, it's a fun quiz, but I agree with the poster who said that some of the questions weren't thought out very well. Anyhoo, although it claims I'm most like Mouldy Voldie (errr...right) the text it gives you to explain your personality type made sense to me. Anyone else got any cool HP quizzes to share? I've yet to find a decent one that sorts you into a Hogwarts house. I may go about making my own. Cheers, ~Wysiwyg ********************************** Chancie: Yes, I agree too that the answers to the quiz aren't reliable. After all, how would they know how to categorize Madam Hooch? But the only quiz I know of that sorts you in to Houses, is at Warner Bros. site. I'm not entirely if it's still there, but here's the link: _http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/main/homepage/intro.html_ (http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/main/homepage/intro.html) And I too would like to hear about any other quizzes! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sherriola at earthlink.net Thu Feb 10 19:19:50 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:19:50 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <00b801c50fa5$7f11f170$0400a8c0@pensive> Well, it says I'm Dumbledore, but I can't find the explanation of why. I found a description of the four sections of the test, but no explanation of why my results came out Dumbledore or the explanation of the initials for my personality type. No info at all except for I am Dumbledore. Funny, on several other HP personality tests, I've ended up being Dumbledore. I wonder why. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM [mailto:chnc1024 at AOL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:30 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. Chancie http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From sherriola at earthlink.net Thu Feb 10 19:22:45 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:22:45 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <77.3ee9448a.2f3d0bd2@aol.com> Message-ID: <00b901c50fa5$e72d18c0$0400a8c0@pensive> There's a web site called allthetests.com that has a bunch of HP tests. I used to have a link directly to the tests but I seem to have deleted it. Some of them were too easy to manipulate. I could make myself end up in whatever house I wanted, but others were fun. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM [mailto:chnc1024 at AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:11 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In a message dated 2/10/2005 11:02:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk writes: Well, it's a fun quiz, but I agree with the poster who said that some of the questions weren't thought out very well. Anyhoo, although it claims I'm most like Mouldy Voldie (errr...right) the text it gives you to explain your personality type made sense to me. Anyone else got any cool HP quizzes to share? I've yet to find a decent one that sorts you into a Hogwarts house. I may go about making my own. Cheers, ~Wysiwyg ********************************** Chancie: Yes, I agree too that the answers to the quiz aren't reliable. After all, how would they know how to categorize Madam Hooch? But the only quiz I know of that sorts you in to Houses, is at Warner Bros. site. I'm not entirely if it's still there, but here's the link: _http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/main/homepage/intro.html_ (http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/main/homepage/intro.html) And I too would like to hear about any other quizzes! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From sydenmill at msn.com Thu Feb 10 19:33:51 2005 From: sydenmill at msn.com (bohcoo) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:33:51 -0000 Subject: way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" wrote: > > How do you ever reconcile yourself to a child dying? > sherry >From Bohcoo: Dearest Sherry, How profoundly sad I was to read your message about the heartbreaking deaths of the small children close to your family. I am sending you my deepest prayers of comfort. I wish there were adequate words to lessen your grief -- I would say them all to you now. May you all have the loving closeness of support from oneanother. Cry together, greet each day with the strength that comes from love and friendship. And know that our thoughts are with you. Bohcoo From kempermentor at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 21:49:50 2005 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:49:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050210214950.94134.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Fun quiz. I've taken the M-B before and somehow came up with xNTJ. 'x' being right in the middle. The quiz popped me up as Snape, INTJ. So I looked at ENTJ and it was MM. Maybe I'm their love child. chnc1024 at AOL.COM wrote: I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. Chancie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Thu Feb 10 22:26:49 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:26:49 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <20050210214950.94134.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, kemper mentor wrote: > The quiz popped me up as Snape, INTJ. So I looked at ENTJ and it was MM. > Maybe I'm their love child. > This made me laugh! A SSnape and MM love child. Can you imagine? From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 22:38:11 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:38:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050210223811.8034.qmail@web61002.mail.yahoo.com> spinelli372003 wrote: This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right now. could everyone please say some prayers. Dear Sherry, I don't think I'd know where to start either. It sounds as if you are being a very good friend. Of course you and those around you have my prayers. God Bless, Sam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 10 22:50:08 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:50:08 EST Subject: Harry Potter Quizzes Message-ID: <1e.3ecc03d9.2f3d3f20@aol.com> I found some Potter quizzes, I did the first 2, (I came out as Hermione on each) and the third is a BUNCH of links for quizzes. I haven't had a chance to check them out yet, but thought some of you might enjoy it. Chancie _http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/kids/puzzles/hppersonality/quiz01.htm_ (http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/kids/puzzles/hppersonality/quiz01.htm) _http://pages.prodigy.net/hpdevo/quiz/_ (http://pages.prodigy.net/hpdevo/quiz/) _http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413_ (http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ms-tamany at rcn.com Thu Feb 10 22:57:30 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:57:30 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <420BA08A.25474.3781753@localhost> On 10 Feb 2005 at 17:16, spinelli372003 wrote: > > This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right > now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different > people. Oh, Sherry! I can't even begin to imagine what you and your daughter and her friends must be going through right now. My heartfelt condolences go out for all of you involved in this. Please let your daughter know to pass it on to her suffering friends, that they're being prayed for right now. *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Want to back-up your expensive DVDs? Check out DVD Wizard Pro: http://www.dvdwizardpro.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=398 Want to earn a Sony Vaio for only $5? Check out EZ Laptop: http://www.ezlaptop.com/index.php?ref=8574 From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Thu Feb 10 22:59:53 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:59:53 EST Subject: personality quiz Message-ID: <149.3ede7922.2f3d4169@aol.com> http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm Thanks for this link Chancie. Much to my amazement I am most like Dumbledore! I suddenly feel wise and powerful all over. :) Elizabeth --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 23:34:07 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:34:07 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Quizzes In-Reply-To: <1e.3ecc03d9.2f3d3f20@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > I found some Potter quizzes, I did the first 2, (I came out as > Hermione on each) > > Chancie > > _http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/kids/puzzles/hppersonality/quiz01.htm_ > (http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/kids/puzzles/hppersonality/quiz01.htm) > > _http://pages.prodigy.net/hpdevo/quiz/_ > (http://pages.prodigy.net/hpdevo/quiz/) > > _http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413_ > (http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413) > >*****\(@@)/***** Hee hee! I took the first two and came out as Hermione also! These are fun! I want to go back to the third one and look around when I get more time - they looked interesting... Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 23:45:08 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:45:08 -0000 Subject: way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: <420BA08A.25474.3781753@localhost> Message-ID: > On 10 Feb 2005 at 17:16, spinelli372003 wrote: > > > > > This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different > > people. > My heartfelt condolences go out for all of you involved in this. > *** > Tammy Rizzo > ms-tamany at r... > As do mine, I will pray for your daughter and her friends to be comforted and to find strength and faith. Valky From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Fri Feb 11 00:10:51 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:10:51 -0000 Subject: HP Personality Quizzes FF related try the Which Slytherin Mary-Sue Are you? Message-ID: Hi, My husband did the HP Personality Quiz and was put somewhere between Madam Hooch and Olympe. A bit disappointed he didn't get a male personality (teehee) he had a look around and found some other Quizzes on the site. He was Sexy!Snape according to another quiz, to his satisfaction.. lol Anyhoo, I had a bit of an exploration of the site too, which was quite fun, and I became really curious when I saw the quiz offering to tell you Which Slytherin Mary Sue you are. I did it and my result was Evil!Tom_Riddles_Daughter!MarySue (mwaahahahah)I would never have picked it, never considered it... before now... (mwahaha) Valky Heres the link for anyone who is enjoying the quizzes....... http://piratemonkeysinc.com/snape.htm#fun Scroll to near the bottom for a few quizzes as well as the Mary-Sue one. From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Fri Feb 11 02:20:40 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:20:40 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Alla: > > LOL! I took this test twice and at first I came out as Dumbledore a > nd when I changed one question, I came out as Hagrid. :o) > > > > I suppose that might account for my addiction to filk-writing. > > > > > > - CMC (give me a bwah! give me a hah! give me a bwah!hah!hah!) I came out as Dumbledore too, so did what seems to be the done thing and went back to change ambiguous answers, and still Dumbledore. I'm not in any way shape or form organised. How is that possible?! Still, I thought I'll go back and put in the reverse of all my answers to find my opposite. Aparently that's Draco, which I *was* pleased about, 'till my friend said to me 'well you know what they say about opposites attract'! Becky From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Feb 11 04:53:20 2005 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:53:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050211045320.82703.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Shelly, My prayers go out to you and your loved ones. May those so darkly affected find the light in life. Bless. - kemper spinelli372003 wrote: This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different people. My daughter's very good friend has had a tragedy. Last summer Rachael and 3 of her best friends were all pregnant together and had there babies within days of each other. At christmas time one of the girls baby died of sids. It was horrible. Sunday night after the superbowl another of the girls put her baby to bed and the next morning when she went in to get him up he wasn't breathing. An autopsy showed he died of sids. The is a horrible thing for any one to go thru but to have it hit this close knit group twice is just beyond belief. Rachael has been crying for days. She is feeling sad and she says she feels guilty because her baby is in his crib sleeping and Jessies is gone. Jessie is hysterical. I want to do something for this girl but don't know what to do. We are putting money in a card as she needs that. I am staying home and taking care of some of the children so they will not be at the funeral. i am cooking for afterwards for the family. but beyond that what can I do? this is a little girl who has been a part of my daughters life since 2nd grade. she was a bridesmaid in rachaels wedding. My daughter and this girl had there first baby's together and then this one also. she is a cousin of rachaels husband. how do you tell her everything will get better when it seems like nothing will ever be ok again. How do you ever reconcile yourself to a child dying? I have spent the last 2 days crying. I will be doing nothing and my eyes fill up with tears. I have tried to explain to chris and he is sorry but doesn't understand why it is hitting me so hard when it is not one of our kids. or our family. But we have grandbabies this age. and I am scared for them. My 9yr old says sometimes God just wants the baby back. I just got off the phone with rachael again. She wants me to get hold of the priest and get it set up to get them baptised. She does not go to church with us every week. But she was raised catholic and it is important to her. I am going to call and set it up. sorry to ramble. sherry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 11 09:37:33 2005 From: lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk (Sandra) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:37:33 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, This was fun I came out as Fred and George Then went back, because I though there were some points I might want to change, to my surprise did find only a few - result Fred and George went back again, and changed what I still though would fit - Dumbledore! Maybe that shows how close Fred and George are in some sense to Dumbledore. A graphic depiction of where the HP characters are similar or differ (in the view of the quiz-maker) would be interesting too. Thanks very much for this, Chancie. Will probably check out the other tests soon. Lysandra "moondance241" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Susan Snow > wrote: > > Well I'm another Gred and Forge so I read where a few > > thought maybe they could have answered a couple of > > question differently so I took the test again and > > well... I was Voldemort. So I guess I like the first > > one better > > > > > Moondance: > And to think I'm just an answer or two from that! Its a fine line > between good and evil, huh? > > I'm with you...I'd much rather be Gred and Forge than the Dark Lord. From sylviablundell at aol.com Fri Feb 11 11:34:03 2005 From: sylviablundell at aol.com (ladyramkin2001) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:34:03 -0000 Subject: Which Slytherin Mary-Sue are you? Message-ID: Hey, I got Snape all to myself. Hands off everybody else! Sylvia From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com Fri Feb 11 19:59:07 2005 From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:59:07 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? Sturgis Podmore... perhaps. Though if DD dies in HBP, it will be DD. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? No > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? No. Yes! ... erm ... possibly. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? Well... I'm not convinced that Sirius really inherited it properly anyway, he was burned off the tapestry, wasn't he? Whoever did inherit it couldn't find it, or didn't want it. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Dunno, but Hagrid does. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Not someone in the order - possibly Amelia Bones, more probably a DE we don't yet know about. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Might be, but hope not. > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Reluctantly, I think he's good, but I'd be delighted if he turned out bad. We won't find out until the end, anyway. > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, though not immediately. > > 11) Who will die in book six? Maybe Moody, maybe Tonks, maybe DD, maybe Percy, maybe Wormtail, maybe Lucius, and probably whoever gets DADA. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Not in HBP, possibly in book 7 > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's against Voldy, that's as far as I'm prepared to speculate. Dung From skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 11 20:04:24 2005 From: skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk (Megan) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:04:24 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote: > > I was told about this quiz, and I thought some of you might like to > try it out. It's pretty short, (20 questions long), and it only takes > a second to get your results. On my first try it said I was most like > Molly Weasley, then when I did it again ( I changed the answers that > could go either way) I came out as being like McGonagall. > > Chancie > > > http://piratemonkeysinc.com/quiz.htm > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Argh! I took the quiz, and I am Voldie! I didn't like that answer and retook it, and ended up being Snape... ~sigh!~ :) skater314159 -who *always* ends up getting sorted into slytherin... From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Feb 11 23:44:07 2005 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:44:07 -0000 Subject: way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" wrote: > > This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right > now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different > people. Sherry, how dreadful. You and your daughter and her friends are in my prayers right now. You might want to find out if there is a chapter of Compassionate Friends near you. http://www.compassionatefriends.org/ This is a non-profit non-religious group that offers support to parents who have lost their children and to the people caring for them. Please off-list me if you need someone to talk to... Pippin From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 12 03:14:10 2005 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:14:10 -0000 Subject: way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sherry: This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different people. Pippin: > Sherry, how dreadful. You and your daughter and her friends are > in my prayers right now. > > Alla: Dear Sherry, I second that. You are in my prayers also. From elfundeb at comcast.net Sat Feb 12 05:56:22 2005 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:56:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz/Prayers for Sherry References: <1108046589.15365.45555.m25@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <014e01c510c7$94c4d0f0$3c02a8c0@TOSHIBALAPTOP> CMC wrote: > > Hmmm...I took another online HP personality test a couple of years > ago where I came out as Dumbledore - via this knock-off of > Myers/Briggs (an inacurrate and discredited instrument, in my > professional opinion), I came out as Lord Voldemort. I assume you mean that Myers/Briggs itself is inaccurate and discredited, and not just this knockoff, which seems to assume the HP characters can be made to be exact fits for the various personality types. I am curious, though. Do you mean that the personality types are meaningless, or that the determination of an individual's type is made using an inherently unreliable analytical too. I believe the testing does a poor job of assessing one's personality, but I do believe the INTJ description paints a fairly accurate picture of me. (Not perfect, of course, because most of us are a blend of characteristics on each side of the polar opposite pigeonholes we must be made to fit. A very awkward segueway, but I do want to offer prayers for Sherry, her daughter and her daughter's friends for their losses Debbie, aka Lord Voldemort From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 12 09:18:26 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:18:26 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas Message-ID: Hello everyone - this is my first posting to this group, so I hope you like it. I'm not sure if this has been discussed or not, but it's a subject I really get into. There are websites out there which show the striking similarities between characters in the HP series and, for example, certain cartoon characters, or the lifiting of names and roles from mythology, which I find fascinating - I love knowing where ideas come from, and I love to see how 'close to the wind' someone chooses to sail. Anyway, I just found another 'spark of inspiration' which I've never seen mentioned anywhere before - literary detective work can be entertaining for up to minutes at a time. When P Pettigrew is supposedly killed by Sirius back in years gone by, the only proof of his supposed death is a finger left behind at the scene. Well, I was reading a book about the Romanoffs and the only genuine, bona-fide proof offered to the public (at that time) that the family had been murdered was a.. wait for it.. a finger, supposedly belonging to the Tsarina, left behind at one scene of their supposed demise (where the bodies were claimed to have been burned). How about that! I'm not saying JKR is wrong to do things like that, I'm just saying I love finding things out and seeing how one thing leads to another. You should see how much other big name writers plunder the archives for. Don't get me started... So my prediction for The Half Blood Prince is that a huge ape will climb to the top of Hogwarts, Harry will find a red cape and take to wearing his underpants on the outside, Ron will decide to sail around the world in a triple-hulled sealed glass box (without eating) and Hermione will release a series of opera cd's before discovering cigarettes and gin. Hagrid will shoot someone for breaking into his hut, Dumbledore will take a break from being a headmaster in order to appear as a host on a popular quiz show, and Snape will adopt a French accent and solve whatever mystery is thrown at those meddling kids. Mr Weasley will get a job at a nuclear power plant, and Ginny will grow dreadlocks which look remarkably like snakes. Go on JKR, prove me wrong. Sandra From skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 13 01:33:33 2005 From: skater314159 at yahoo.co.uk (Megan) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:33:33 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1) Who do you think the HBP is? I think it is Neville. > > 2) Is Snape a Vampire? I hope so... or mebbe he is a Nosferatu/Undead, which is diffrent from the Muggle idea of "Vampyre"... > > 3) Are Sirius and Snape half brothers? No. > > 4) Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? When? The night Harry had his first encounter with Voldie? mmmmm...mebbe... prior to all that - definately. > > 5) Who will inherit the Black estate? I say Bellatrix got it from Sirius' mom - since where he was on the tapestry was a burn hole, but she just thought it was beneath her so she let Sirius have it, and now it will go to Harry... but he won't get to live there, because it is gonna burn/blowup/something. > > 6) Where is Sirius's motorbike? Folded up magickally in one of Hagrid's pockets on his moleskin overcoat. > > 7) Who will be the new Minister of Magic? Percy. Yech. > > 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? No. Neville is... (I hope). > > 9) Is Lupin good or evil? Good at acting good while being evil. So both and yet neither? > > 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? In death. > > 11) Who will die in book six? I'm afraid from the way JKR talks it's gonna be a bloodbath. I'm voting for DD and McGonagall among the adults, and Cho, Ron, Luna and/or Percy among the young people. > > 12) Will Petunia perform magic? Yeh... she is a witch in denial, because she got kicked outta Hogwarts and so she has been acting Muggle all these years... > > 13) Is Snape good or evil? He's a dark, demented, twisted, sick, asshole, but he is good (as in not our enemy...) which is why I like his character. He is the perfect opposite of Lupin (see above). Skater314159, Who postulates that the running bit about "socks" in the previous five books has something to do with why socks always disappear (esp. in the dryer) when Muggles do laundry - something magickal happens, but the Muggles "never notice nuffink they don't"... From SongBird3411 at aol.com Sun Feb 13 02:20:16 2005 From: SongBird3411 at aol.com (SongBird3411 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:20:16 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: I too have studied the M/B test pretty extensively. On all previous occasions I have come up INTP. This fits me incredibly well. For some reason, I came up INTJ on this one. I wonder what one earth I answered differently. Especially as the P/J split is usually my most marked difference in ratio. Of course, I suppose I would rather be Snape than Voldemort. At least Snape seems somewhat effective in executing his plans. I certainly hope that I, as an INTP, wouldn't be so ineffective as Voldemort. Mindy From nakedkali at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 04:16:16 2005 From: nakedkali at yahoo.com (Sea Change) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:16:16 -0000 Subject: motor bike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sherry wrote: > > > > I have a question about the motor bike. the survery made me > wonder. Does anyone have it in canon that the motorbike has been seen > or used at all after the sourcerers stone? [snip] > > Moondance also wrote: [snip] > > Its interesting, because in Book 1 Hagrid tells DD he's going to > return it to Sirius, but doesn't Hagrid say in Book 3 that Sirius > tells him to keep it, that he won't be needing it anymore? ___________ Sea Change replies: The motorbike makes a racket when it lands the first time, but when Hagrid next meets Harry, the storm and the surf are making a lot of noise, so we wouldn't have heard it then. We haven't seen Hagrid with a broom, and a broom may not support him anyways. I presumed upon rereading that Hagrid got there via Motorcycle. Humans don't seem to be able to fly on their own, and Hagrid left the island with Harry on the boat that was already there, so he had to have gotten there somehow. Sea Change, who is amused to speculate that since the Dursleys won't truck with anything magical, they probably hid the motorbike (on the roof?) because its presence would have required explanation when they got rescued. From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 13 05:02:32 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 13 Feb 2005 05:02:32 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1108270952.267.75987.m19@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 13, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 07:08:34 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 07:08:34 -0000 Subject: motor bike and the Island In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sea Change" wrote: > > Sherry wrote: > > > > > > ... Does anyone have it in canon that the motorbike has been > > seen or used at all after the sourcerers stone? [snip] > > Moondance also wrote: > [snip] > > > > Its interesting, because in Book 1 Hagrid tells DD he's going to > > return it to Sirius, but doesn't Hagrid say in Book 3 that Sirius > > tells him to keep it, that he won't be needing it anymore? > > Sea Change replies: > > ... when Hagrid ... meets Harry, the storm and the surf are making > a lot of noise, so we wouldn't have heard it then. ... I presumed > upon rereading that Hagrid got there (hut on the island) via > Motorcycle. ... and Hagrid left the island with Harry on > the boat ... > > Sea Change, who is amused to speculate that ... the Dursleys ... > probably hid the motorbike (on the roof?) because its presence would > have required explanation when they got rescued. bboyminn: A few small problems with the Motorbike now being anywhere but placed in storage by Hagrid. - Hagrid seems to be able to apparate. ---SS/PS Am Ed PB pg 109--- The train pulled out of the station. Harry wanted to watch Hagrid until he was out of sight' he rose in his seat and pressed his nose against the window, but he blinked and Hagrid had gone. - - -end quote- - - He either Apparated or used a Portkey, and access to Portkeys seems to be somewhat limited, so the weight goes to Hagrid being able to apparate. It could be that Hagrid said he 'flew' to the hut on the island because it seemed too complicated to try and explain Apparation to Harry. Or, if a Portkey, then trying to explain that to Harry. In PoA, Hagrid said Sirius gave him the motorbike and wouldn't need it back. It's not unreasonable for Hagrid, knowing how important that bike was to Sirius, to not take him at his word. Also, Hargid probably wouldn't have any need for the motorbike, so regardless of what Sirius said, Hagrid took it with the intention of eventually returning it. Unfortunatly, Sirius was captured and Hagrid was stuck with the motorbike. Next point is that if a carpet is proscribed by law as a non-charmable muggle object, then certainly a motorbike is. So, Hagrid would certainly not leave the Bike on the island where the island's muggle owner could stumble across it, and he certainly wouldn't leave it to the Dursleys to dispose of. So, I say once again that Sirius's motorbike was left in Hagrid's possession and is now at or near Hogwarts (school, village, forest, ...). As to how Hagrid got to the island, the greatest weight goes to Apparate, Portkey, or Thestral drawn Carriage; take your pick. I personally, find any other explanation for either of these mysteries a little too far fetched. Just one man's opinion. Steve/bboyminn From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 13 16:02:21 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 13 Feb 2005 16:02:21 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1108310541.18.96089.m22@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 13, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From eloiseherisson at aol.com Sun Feb 13 16:23:33 2005 From: eloiseherisson at aol.com (eloise_herisson) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:23:33 -0000 Subject: motor bike and the Island In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve: > So, I say once again that Sirius's motorbike was left in Hagrid's > possession and is now at or near Hogwarts (school, village, forest, ...). I have always held onto a fantasy that it lives in the Forbidden Forest with the Flying Ford Anglia, where they are bringing up a little family of motorbikes with sidecars. > > As to how Hagrid got to the island, the greatest weight goes to > Apparate, Portkey, or Thestral drawn Carriage; take your pick. > > I personally, find any other explanation for either of these mysteries > a little too far fetched. I don't believe Hagrid can apparate. He's not fully qualified and it's quite advanced, tricky magic. But as he was able to operate the boat by means of the fragments of wand hidden in his umbrella, it's quite possible he was able to have some object fly there similarly. Or else he did it like Mary Poppins. If he got to the island on the motorbike, thestral or Portkey, then why take the boat back? And why did we never hear about the Dursleys being stranded? ~Eloise From catlady at wicca.net Sun Feb 13 22:35:14 2005 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:35:14 -0000 Subject: motor bike and the Island In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "eloise_herisson" wrote: > > Steve: > > As to how Hagrid got to the island, the greatest weight goes to > > Apparate, Portkey, or Thestral drawn Carriage; take your pick. Steve, why not riding a Thestral rather than in a carriage? They're magic; they can carry a big weight. Eloise: > If he got to the island on the motorbike, thestral or Portkey, then > why take the boat back? Not allowed to do magic in front of Harry that day, which is why he asked Harry not to tell anyone about him Charming the boat to self-propell? > > And why did we never hear about the Dursleys being stranded? > The same reason we never hear about Harry nipping back into "Moody"'s office to take back the Marauder's Map. From sternel at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 00:52:22 2005 From: sternel at gmail.com (Sternel) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:52:22 -0000 Subject: Beta-reading survey Message-ID: Hi, everyone. I'm poking my head out from my Big Bad Lurkerdom to ask a favor. My name is Abbie, although I go by Sternel on the net most of the time. I'm taking a course in Mentoring Writers at Stony Brook University, and for my research paper, I'm exploring the use of beta-writers in fanfiction communities online, to see what sort of similarities and differences I can find between beta readers and the peer tutoring process used in university writing programs. I'm looking for writers and beta-readers (you can be either one or the other, or both!) who have a few minutes to spare to help me out by answering a few questions on their writing/betaing process. If you only write, or only beta read, you can answer just those applicable questions. Responses will be kept anonymous, so you don't have to give your name if you chose not to. If you don't mind being contacted for clarification, there's a space to leave your email address. At the close of the semester, I'll make the paper available to anyone who's interested. If you have friends or fellow writers who you think would be interested in this survey, please feel free to pass it on. Due to my syllabus schedule, I have to set a cutoff date of February 20, 2005, so unfortunately if you reply after then, while I'll be glad to see your response, I won't be able to include it in the research. Responses can be emailed to beta.survey at gmail.com . Feel free to contact me there with any questions as well. Thank you in advance! About you: How old are you? Describe your educational level: How long have you been writing? Would you categorize yourself as a beginner, intermediate, or experienced writer? What fandoms/genres/styles do you write for? Do you write original fiction? OPTIONAL: If you're willing to be contacted for clarification or with additional questions, what is your email? (If you don't wish to be contacted, you won't be. Responses will be kept anonymous.) Using betas: Do you use a beta-writer in the course of your fanfiction writing? Why? (Required by the archive/hosting site, Britpicking/fact- checking, grammar checks, plot and continuity, etc.) Or, conversely, why not? Do you have any preferences about beta-readers? How do you find your beta-readers? Do you prefer specific people, or do you just use whoever's available? What sort of feedback do you expect from a beta-reader? Why? Do you prefer the beta's comments over IM or in the text? How do you /use/ the feedback from a beta-read? Do you communicate with your beta-readers in the process of writing? Do they contribute to plotting? How so? Do you turn to other people who are not beta-readers while you're plotting/writing? Being a beta: Do you beta-read for anyone? What do you look for as a beta-reader? Is it the same things you want beta-readers to look for in /your/ work? What sort of feedback do you give, and why? Do you prefer to give feedback over IM or in the text? Do you help other people with plotting and writing? How so? Do you feel that it's affected your own writing? How? Please email your responses to beta.survey at gmail.com -- don't post them here! There's no need to clog up the list any further than I already have. Thank you! From miss_megan at bigpond.com Mon Feb 14 01:35:46 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:35:46 +1100 Subject: something to read while you are waiting for July 16 Message-ID: Mark Haddon, "the curious incident of the dog at night-time" Like HP this book was published in both Adult and Child covers. It's about a child who is different to the world around him and doesn't really fit in anywhere. That's the end of the similarity. It's a first person narrative and detective story. The narrator and detective is Christopher, a 15 year old, 3 months and some days old young man with self described 'behavioural difficulties" (he is a very high functioning person with one of the autism spectrum disorders). He doesn't fit in with the mainstream community - yet - but he also doesn't fit in at school where his abilities are much greater than the other children he is schooling with. Christopher wants to find out who killed his neighbour's dog, Wellington. He likes dogs because they are faithful, trustworthy and they don't lie. Solving this mystery presents many challenges, all with their own assorted difficulties. The book is funny and sad. The author apparently worked with kids with Autism and he must have paid a lot of attention because he has got Christopher's voice down pat. storm, who loves to share a good read but feels really clumsy doing more than handing the book over and saying - here give this a go. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 02:12:24 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:12:24 -0000 Subject: motor bike and the Island In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eloise: > I have always held onto a fantasy that it lives in the Forbidden > Forest with the Flying Ford Anglia, where they are bringing up a > little family of motorbikes with sidecars. I'd say someone's been seeing too much of dragon and donkey! (end of Shrek 2) Becky From heidi at heidi8.com Mon Feb 14 02:24:26 2005 From: heidi at heidi8.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:26 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: motor bike and the Island In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1108347869.1B9D8975@dk11.dngr.org> > > Eloise wrote: > >> I have always held onto a fantasy that it lives in the Forbidden >> Forest with the Flying Ford Anglia, where they are bringing up a >> little family of motorbikes with sidecars. > A section of Copperbadge's Stealing Harry sequel sort of incorporates this concept - it's in the start of the second year section of Laocoon's Children (but one should read his stealing harry first, so as not to miss the plot) and it's cleverly done. The fics are at http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Samvimes Heidi From shalimar07 at aol.com Mon Feb 14 03:10:04 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (mumweasley7) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:10:04 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts Message-ID: This subject comes up fairly often, but I haven't heard very many original theories about the discovery Harry made in Chamber of Secrets. It's always the same thing...The Chamber, Tom Riddle...what about some new theories? I have a good one but I'm waiting to see what other people think. Let's throw out some good ones but support it with canon...please! Mary From msbeadsley at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 06:01:31 2005 From: msbeadsley at yahoo.com (msbeadsley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:01:31 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Personality Quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" wrote: > Argh! I got Severus Snape INTJ! I would have never thought I would > have gotten that from what I answered! It was fun... Yeah, well, *I* got You-Know-Who. MWA-HA-HA! Sandy From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Mon Feb 14 06:05:11 2005 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:05:11 -0000 Subject: "A Crappy Valentine's Day" Message-ID: This is the funniest Valentine-related piece since Lockhart's dwarves: http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4106 - CMC From msbeadsley at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 07:01:02 2005 From: msbeadsley at yahoo.com (msbeadsley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:01:02 -0000 Subject: way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "spinelli372003" wrote: > This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right > now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different > cooking for afterwards for the family. but beyond that what can I > do? this is a little girl who has been a part of my daughters life > Sherry It sounds like you have been a godsend. My heart goes out to those young women whose babies passed away, and to you and your daughter. The immediate needs are sometimes easier to help with: money, food, babysitting; there isn't ANYTHING anyone can say that will actually make it easier; the phrase "make it not be true" leaps to mind. Mere stolid human presence, hugs, and tissues are often as good as anything. You might suggest that your daughter do a little research on SIDS, just for her peace of mind about your grandchild; there are some basic preventive measures, mostly around bedding (although they aren't 100% by any means). I have heard bereaved parents say that DOING something in memory of the child is helpful in their grief after a time, especially if it is some sort of activity/activism around what happened to their child. Sandy aka msbeadsley From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 07:31:03 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:31:03 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mumweasley7" wrote: > > ...I haven't heard very many original theories about the discovery > Harry made in Chamber of Secrets. It's always the same thing... ,,, > ...what about some new theories? I have a good one but I'm waiting > to see what other people think. ... > > Mary bboyminn: So exactly what is "the /discovery/ Harry made in Chamber of Secrets"? Also, I think you'll get a much better response by telling us what you think and asking us to comment on that, than simply dropping a discussion topic on an already much debated book and hoping for new ideas. Personally, I get my best ideas from thinking about other people's ideas. So, really, don't be shy, we really would love to hear your theories. Even if it has been discussed before, a new mind often brings new insight to old topics, and fuels the fire for renewed debate. Feel free to express yourself, we really are a friendly group. Steve/bboyminn From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 08:08:55 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:08:55 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mumweasley7" wrote: > > This subject comes up fairly often, but I haven't heard very many > original theories about the discovery Harry made in Chamber of > Secrets. It's always the same thing...The Chamber, Tom Riddle...what about some new theories? I have a good one but I'm waiting to see what other people think. Let's throw out some good ones but support it with canon...please! > > Mary Actually, Mary I had one just not so long ago. One possibly undeveloped discovery that Harry made in Chamber of Secrets, (well actually its quite a latticework of discoveries that mix to an interesting Half-Blood thought) is that Tom Riddle and Salazar Slytherin both thought noble ridding Hogwarts school of Non- Pureblood wizards. I was giving rather serious and in depth thought to the Founders themselves, when I came to a realisation that JKR had blindsided something by me in COS. Tom Riddle slithered his way out of the consequences of having released the Basilisk on Myrtle by blaming Hagrid. At first glance it looks relatively obvious why Hagrid was chosen, a young overgrown hairy boy with a clear fondness for dangerous beasts "ahhh the obvious choice". But then I wondered, is that *really* why he chose Hagrid? I mean, perhaps there was some other student up to various mischief he could have framed with the whole beast thing, it's not inconcievable, not entirely anyway. Hagrid was expelled from Hogwarts, certainly not a disappointing outcome for Tom, he got to stay and one more Half-Blood was removed from Hogwarts. It all seemed closed tight enough, but something didn't sit right. I wondered would young Tom be so likely to have *not* tried to achieve so many ends in one blow. What I mean is, was Tom Riddle (young Voldemort) just planning to accidentally unleash the Basilisk and then think up some contingency at point blank when it all went pear shaped? I doubt it. Tom had Hagrid pegged from the get go. And I am sure he had some better ideas about where and when he'd release the Basilisk too, but what I am really interested in is what reasons might go to constituting the choice to make Hagrid the scapegoat. There is first off, no doubt, that he is/was a Half-Blood Giant, not a half-muggle-blood wizard, which goes to the thought that the Basilisk, *might* be entirely ineffectual against him. Then there's something entirely more interesting....... We still haven't been informed precisely *who* is the owner of the Godrics Hollow estate. Now I go into deeper waters of speculation but it will all join hands. Tom in the Chamber was continuing "Salazars noble work", he was getting his intructions straight from Salazar, perhaps through the Basilisk or by some other means (another book?) In any case Salazar was informing Tom of his *personal* wishes. Godrics Hollow is a mystery, we are led (even encouraged by JKR in interview) to assume that this home is estate of the Gryffindor title, once perhaps belonging to Godric himself. Now if it was not the property of the Potters, which is likely since we are *also* encouraged to keep the assumption that 'Potter' is an heritage wizard name, then it must have been lent to the Potters as a safe haven for the fact that it bears the seal of a wizard who was of certainty *equal* to Salazar Slytherin, and by someone to whom the Potter family was quite dear. Now these Slytherin folks (family not house) may very possibly be in a pattern of trying to make absence of their *equals*. Like Tom with Harry, and it can be supposed perhaps of the Hogwarts founders fallout also, echoes of history repeating. Rubeus Hagrid lives in a hut at Hogwarts. But he was raised by a loving wizard father in a family home. A loving wizard father who was of a Gryffindor sense of values, he loved a giantess without shame and Half-Giant son acceptingly embracingly, despite his broken heart and tiny stature. Hagrid father died shortly after he started school. Without him, when Hagrid was expelled he was alone and didn't return to his family home. It probably became too small for him anyway. Dumbledore kept Hagrid on as gamekeeper of Hogwarts after he had been expelled, giving him a home and a family and a chance for a life in which he might be happy and content. But I wonder, is this, as are things with Dumbledore, an even more profound gift than that. To bring it all together I speculate that Salazar Slytherin personally asked of his Heir in the Chamber to seek out the Heir of Gryffindor and destroy him in vengeance against his ancestor Godric. Hagrid being expelled from Hogwarts very nearly *did* destroy *him*, a 16 yr old boy half wizard boy without a license for magic, or a chance for acceptance in the greater community, if it hadn't been for Dumbledore would Hagrid have lived? Or suffered alone and broken to his early death. Insert same old, same old, ruby encrusted sword and sovereign animal symbol of Gryffindor going to canon that Gryffindor is a royal breed etc etc And here's the punch line, finally, Hagrid is Godric Gryffindors Heir, and the Half-Blood Prince is what he *would have been*, if he ever had completed his schooling and taken his *true* place in the Castle Hogwarts. That's my theory, Mary's turn... :D Valky From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 14 09:48:06 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:48:06 -0000 Subject: Another goody to read before July16th Message-ID: I didn't realise we could recommend books here, so here goes with my all time favourite book - The Odessa Stone. It's funny, gripping, scary, emotional, and above all its magical. It's about Linda, a girl who's life is totally run by superstition and obsessive-compulsive disorders. I saw a lot of myself in her! She's like it because of the impact losing her mother at an early age caused, but she's actually just sensitive to spirit-activity and sees things that most people don't know are even there. So her revolting father (a politician) drags her on a government visit to Odessa, so that she can be used for family media-photos at the nuclear power stations - and one day in the city she encounters an evil spirit, who leaves her with a 'gift' - a matroshka doll which contains Avalon, a slightly mad fairy who leads Linda on a quest to find the Odessa Stone. It's a 'mythical' gemstone which carries out the bidding of 'gifted' people - and there's never been many of those in 800 years. She finds the Stone about a third of the way in, so its not a quest for the Holy Grail slog. The problems happen when the evil spirits want her, the governments want her, religious groups are after her and the military get involved. And all the way through, all that matters to her is the love and friendship of Avalon - and that's why it works so well. I've never felt so attached and involved in a story, and the characters became so real to me. I loved it, I cried like I don't know what when I finished it (it's not a sad ending, its just so moving!) and I've read it twice since I first finished it last year. If you want something to keep you ticking over and really get into, I'd say give it a go. I hope this doesn't sound weird, but I feel like Avalon left the pages of the book, and kind of stayed with me! Sandra, (who tells everyone about this!) From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 14 10:13:42 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:13:42 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Let's throw out some good ones but support it with canon...please! > > Mary Hi Mary, Before I get waffly, what's a "canon"? I read this word a lot on the other pages, and I haven't a clue what it means. Harry's discovery in the CoS, in my opinion, is that he has a charmed life and is destined to always find his way out of any old paper-bag. I never really bought the ending of CoS - I thought Fawkes appearance was SO incredibly convenient. Yet again Harry gets saved by a plot-twist that comes from nowhere to help him out. I suppose that event saves the phoenix character from being a MacGuffin, or maybe it causes the phoenix to become one? (A MacGuffin, by my understanding, is the term Alfred Hitchcock coined to describe a character or item which exists simply as an excuse to push the plot along). I opt for the latter. Fawkes is a minor character who ends up saving Harry's bacon. Ouch, my sense of book-appreciation just fell over. Either way, it's far too convenient that the sword appears courtesy of a peculiar bird who happens to know the underground systems of Hogwarts like the back of his wing. I was a little miffed when I read it, but gave JKR the benefit of the doubt because the second book was intended for children, not adults. It was the third which took a step towards an older audience. I was surprised how forgiving the general public can be, though, and the broader audience just accepted the bird's role. I thought the second book shoul;d have been called Harry Potter And The Incredibly Lucky Arrival. The readers overlooked it, rather like they did with the fault line in the PoA, which was the ultimate in flawed plots - my discussion pages about Time Turning are on the On Topic chat pages for that, and I was glad to see that so many others quickly saw the gaping hole in that one - once it was pointed out. Anyway, that's my Euro worth of thoughts for Harry's big discovery - he has a guardian angel called JKR, and no shame! Sandra From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Mon Feb 14 11:31:43 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:31:43 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502140632131.SM01088@devbox> > sandra87b: > > Before I get waffly, what's a "canon"? I read this word a lot > on the other pages, and I haven't a clue what it means. Vivamus: Hi, Sandra. Canon means in the writings of JK Rowling, either in the books, or in confirmed things she has written or said about the books. It means assumed authority. > sandra87b: > > I never really bought the ending of CoS - I thought Fawkes > appearance was SO incredibly convenient. Yet again Harry gets > saved by a plot-twist that comes from nowhere to help him > out. Vivamus: Fawkes' arrival was convenient, but not a coincidence by any means. Harry *called* Fawkes to him by his loyalty to DD, as DD hinted at before he left and later explained to Harry. So Fawkes showed up with what was needed because that is what a phoenix does -- or, that's what DD told Fawkes to do before leaving. No knowledge of the CoS was required. It's true, we haven't seen much about Fawkes yet, but I think he is quite important to the overall story arc in ways that haven't been revealed yet. I wouldn't write him off as a MacGuffin just yet. There have been some very interesting speculations about Fawkes. Vivamus From plungy116 at aol.com Mon Feb 14 12:46:12 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:46:12 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Quizzes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > > _http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413_ > > (http://www.allthetests.com/personality.php3?katb=0413) Did this one to check which adult I was (I'm an adult, how did that happen?) and I came out as Sirius Black Ahh Sirius, you were born to be my Unicorn... Sarah xx From sherriola at earthlink.net Mon Feb 14 14:45:26 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:45:26 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c512a3$d33bad80$0400a8c0@pensive> Well, it's fantasy, and in fantasy, you just have to accept some things happen as they happen. Suspending reality. One of my absolute favorite fantasy novels, Tigana, by Guy Gavriel Kay, deals with a situation where an evil sorcerer king who takes over several countries, punishes the one that dared to fight back by removing their name. They were a proud country, proud of their name, their history, their culture. This sorcerer king casts a spell so that noone who wasn't born there can hear or remember the name. The plot revolves around the band of seeming wanderers who are secretly trying to drive out the sorcerer's and restore their entire region to freedom, as well as restoring the name of their own country. This might sound cheesy and stupid the way I describe it, but it is not. it was utterly convincing and riveting. I've read the book over and over again and still find new things to admire in it. It's not a kid's book. my point being that in fantasy, things just are, and some things that just don't make sense have to just be accepted. Besides, I don't think that Fawkes is just a device to move the plot along. I think we may see more of him in the next two books. It's the same thing with time turning. i've never had a problem with it. It doesn't confuse me or worry me or make me think about consequences. JKR isn't the first author to use it and won't be the last. Some authors have written entire series on the idea of going back in time, changing history, whatever. Works for me. The plot devices don't intrigue me in the sense that the characters and their actions and reactions to the plot devices intrigue me. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: sandra87b [mailto:sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:14 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 2 - Your thoughts Let's throw out some good ones but support it with canon...please! > > Mary Hi Mary, Before I get waffly, what's a "canon"? I read this word a lot on the other pages, and I haven't a clue what it means. Harry's discovery in the CoS, in my opinion, is that he has a charmed life and is destined to always find his way out of any old paper-bag. I never really bought the ending of CoS - I thought Fawkes appearance was SO incredibly convenient. Yet again Harry gets saved by a plot-twist that comes from nowhere to help him out. I suppose that event saves the phoenix character from being a MacGuffin, or maybe it causes the phoenix to become one? (A MacGuffin, by my understanding, is the term Alfred Hitchcock coined to describe a character or item which exists simply as an excuse to push the plot along). I opt for the latter. Fawkes is a minor character who ends up saving Harry's bacon. Ouch, my sense of book-appreciation just fell over. Either way, it's far too convenient that the sword appears courtesy of a peculiar bird who happens to know the underground systems of Hogwarts like the back of his wing. I was a little miffed when I read it, but gave JKR the benefit of the doubt because the second book was intended for children, not adults. It was the third which took a step towards an older audience. I was surprised how forgiving the general public can be, though, and the broader audience just accepted the bird's role. I thought the second book shoul;d have been called Harry Potter And The Incredibly Lucky Arrival. The readers overlooked it, rather like they did with the fault line in the PoA, which was the ultimate in flawed plots - my discussion pages about Time Turning are on the On Topic chat pages for that, and I was glad to see that so many others quickly saw the gaping hole in that one - once it was pointed out. Anyway, that's my Euro worth of thoughts for Harry's big discovery - he has a guardian angel called JKR, and no shame! 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Groups Links From irishwynch at aol.com Mon Feb 14 18:03:21 2005 From: irishwynch at aol.com (irishwynch at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:03:21 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz Message-ID: I'm a Fred and George Weasly. lol [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cwood at tattersallpub.com Mon Feb 14 18:56:42 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:56:42 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >(snip quite a long but very interesting background on how Valky arrived at the following): > > And here's the punch line, finally, Hagrid is Godric Gryffindors > Heir, and the Half-Blood Prince is what he *would have been*, if he > ever had completed his schooling and taken his *true* place in the > Castle Hogwarts. > > That's my theory, > Mary's turn... :D > > Valky I may not be totally on board for this hypothesis, but it all does beg the question: If Hagrid was vindicated by whatever Harry revealed in the Chamber of Secrets, why has he not been reinstated as a wizard and granted use of a new wand? He is, after all, half wizard by blood (prince or no). This goes in the same file of questions as "Why is Snape allowed to behave as he does in his classroom, punishing indiscriminately, humiliating, and being hostile to non-Slytherin students?" Apart from the cursory review by the late and unlamented Umbridge, aren't Hogwarts teachers held accountable in any way? If I were Dumbledore, no matter what else I needed Snape to do in the larger scheme of things, he would simply not be allowed to treat any students so horribly. Granted, we have to suspend quite a lot of disbelief to live in the JKR world, but we shouldn't be expected to suspend good sense. Ms. Tattersall From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 18:42:45 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:42:45 -0000 Subject: Problems at the end of GOF Message-ID: Richard Jones: >(1) How did the "shades" of Cedric and Frank Bryce and Lily and James >know all they knew? How did the shades know what was going on or >about the golden thread connection or what to do? How did they know >there was a portkey there? What goes on inside the wands? I really did not like the handling of this scene AT ALL so I never spent much time speculating on it. I just had to accept that it happened with a grain of salt and move on. >(2) Inside the maze, Harry had his wand point north, but how did that >help him find the trophy? If he was east or west of the trophy, it >would just lead him right past it. It wouldn't be any help except at >the very entrance. I just took his compass wand to be an assist that made sure he wasn't going in circles. It's very easy to get completely lost in a maze, and this way he could make sure he was at least going in a direction and not spinning around. As long as he tried to make sure he was going "south and west", for example, he would at least be able to maintain that heading through all the twists and turns. >And by the way, why didn't Harry or Ron or some Gryffindor fly above >the hedge earlier and make a map of the maze for Harry? It was just >a normally growing maze and there is no mention that DD had enchanted >it. I'm sure they would have discouraged that sort of thing! For the same reason Harry didn't just "Accio Broom" again and fly straight to the Goblet, dispensing with the maze entirely. >(3) And how did LV have the wand he killed James and Lily with? At >Godric's Hollow, he turned into vapor so he couldn't carry it. So it >must have just fallen down and maybe picked up by someone else at >Godric's Hollow, but the Death Eaters didn't know he was alive or >where he was and if a member of the Ministry got it they would >probably destroy it or keep it well protected (and even if Lucius >Malfoy stole it from the Ministry how would he get it to LV since he >didn't know LV was alive, let alone where he was?). LV spent 13 >years as vapor and a snake and like that, and so he couldn't carry it >in any of those states. Wormtail was a rat and couldn't carry it. >LV had to have Wormtail use it in graveyard against Cedric because he >couldn't. So how did he come to have his wand in the graveyard? This one I've speculated about quite a lot. I had no problem thinking that Peter was WITH LV the whole time, and so snatched up his wand and transformed. I did have a few other questions, though. Did Peter also snatch up James and Lilys' wands? I was wondering why Harry hadn't inherited his father's old wand, then I read SS/PS again and it stated that the Potter house had been destroyed - which led me to another question. How did the Potter house get destroyed? The curse that did in LV could possibly have destroyed the house (maybe?) but it seems farfetched, especially in light of the fact that Peter managed to get LV's wand out. I find it more likely that Peter torched the house, hoping to kill Harry and cover his tracks. He would be too scared to attempt to kill Harry after LV's failure, but I wouldn't put it past him to go the arson route, thinking that by the time the rubble was sorted, Peter would be long gone. Nicky Joe From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 18:45:00 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:45:00 -0000 Subject: Subject: Re: Elkins' Draco Malfoy Is Ever So Lame. Yet Sympathetic. Message-ID: Northsouth: >First I should say that I personally don't quite get hurt/comfort, at >least, I don't find characters attractive beacuse of it - but I don't >find characters attractive beacuse of anything else either, for the >vast majority. I don't really buy the hurt/comfort theory in relation to the "bad boy" characters that readers love to love. For the most part, I blame romance novels for the entire bad boy syndrome that affects far too many women. In the vast majority of romance novels, the hero is a bad boy - sleeps around, loves no one, is sometimes a victim of tragedy, is usually hard-headed and hard-hearted. Now, while this does provoke some sympathetic feelings in the female (she wants to ease his pain, fix his problems, and soften him up) it does nothing to explain the sexual attraction. The hurt/comfort theory is more of a maternal feeling - we feel that way toward Harry because he's had a difficult life and we want to fix him up. But we don't feel any attraction for him, we simply want to mother him. However, Sirius Black, Lucius Malfoy, and possibly Snape are far more attractive. Yes, they are broken and need fixing. But the prize at the end of that fixing is not a happy little boy, it is a virile beast that will worship the ground you walk on (at least, that's how it happens in romance novels). These characters are very strong, powerful, and impressive. The "hurt child" in them is just spice on the attraction, and gives us sympathy for them. If we can just make them see that they are evil and turn them to the good side, they will still be strong, powerful, and impressive. It's not a matter of "healing" them, it's a matter of "changing" them. We want them to be who they are, just better. Unfortunately, this only works in romance novels, not at all in real life, but we females keep trying, and hoping, and reading those Johanna Lindsay books the instant they hit the shelves. Ah, if only the Mallory men were real... BTW, Draco had exposed too many cowardly tendencies to be taken seriously as a possible hero. Maybe he'll toughen up a bit. Nicky Joe From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 19:20:57 2005 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:20:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Happy Valentine's Day! Message-ID: <20050214192058.15889.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com> *an blushing List Elf wanders in, wearing a bright pink pillowcase covered in big red hearts* What? Aren't the Elvses allowed to celebrate, too? In honour of today being Valentine's Day, we'd like to hear your love stories. It can be any kind of love story - meeting your sweetheart, your children making your heart melt, the joy a best friend can bring into your life, the touching things a partner does for your after knowing you so well for years. You name it, that's what we want to hear. *pulls up a comfy chair in front of a table of chocolate and settles in* Happy Valentine's Day to everyone! Sheryll aka Rylly Elf ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 19:32:59 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:32:59 -0000 Subject: Sorry! Message-ID: I wasn't paying attention and posted two messages to this group that should have gone to the other. Maybe I have had too much chocolate today... Naw. Happy Valentine's Day, anyway! Nicky Joe From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 20:05:29 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:05:29 -0000 Subject: Happy Valentine's Day! In-Reply-To: <20050214192058.15889.qmail@web41127.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I got the sweetest card ever with wonderful drawings on it from my 3 yr old brother. I think the picture is of me and him. With being away from home at university and everything, it really made my day! (And the valentine's day chocolate from my parents helped too!) Becky :) From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Mon Feb 14 21:39:43 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:39:43 -0000 Subject: Problems at the end of GOF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "xcpublishing" wrote: > > Nicky Joe: >> Did Peter also snatch up James and Lilys' wands? I was wondering why > Harry hadn't inherited his father's old wand, then I read SS/PS again > and it stated that the Potter house had been destroyed - which led me > to another question. How did the Potter house get destroyed? The > curse that did in LV could possibly have destroyed the house (maybe?) > but it seems farfetched, especially in light of the fact that Peter > managed to get LV's wand out. I find it more likely that Peter > torched the house, hoping to kill Harry and cover his tracks. He > would be too scared to attempt to kill Harry after LV's failure, but > I wouldn't put it past him to go the arson route, thinking that by > the time the rubble was sorted, Peter would be long gone. > > Nicky Joe You asked a lot of good questions here. Many I would like to know the answer to myself and I think JKR will reveal all by the end of book 7. However, I would like to address the one part about the state of the Potter's house. I recall how every time there is a "duel" of some sort, or kids are learning new charms and spells, how chaos happens when they miss their mark (think of the DA's in the RR). So if LV and James are dueling, the house is getting destroyed around them. Perhaps James is deliberately adding to the destruction to provide obstacles for LV, thus buying more time for Lily and Harry. I've seen no canon regarding fire, only destruction. Therefore, a pile of rubble, which is hiding Harry until Hagrid rescues him, will also be hiding James, Lily, and LV wands, waiting for someone to sift through to find. How easy for a rat to find the prized possession(s?) and hide it somewhere (The Burrow?) until news of LV return. Moondance From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Mon Feb 14 21:47:41 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:47:41 -0600 Subject: my love story Message-ID: <05c701c512de$cfcc7590$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> My husbandf and I met over the Internet. I was playing on a chat, and the staff there thought I was 12 instead of 21 because my typing was sooo terrible! They thought I was a kid tryig to play an adult, so I got hooked up with the kid's staff member. He thought I was a kid, too, till I told him I am totally blind, and that at the time I had a lot of trouble typing correctly! I almost fled then--I hadn't gotten a lot of great reception once it was found out I am blind, you see. But he took it really well; so well in fact that we talked on line every single day for hours! And we finally got to calling each other long-distance. We finally met when he came to visit me in Virginia, where i lived at the time. I moved out a couple months after his visit because of some family problems I won't get into now. We agreeded that if things didn't work, well we would work to make sure I was comfortable and happy. Things worked out great though. A year to the day of me arriving on his doorstep, he asked me to marry him. Two years later, on June 24, 2000 we were married. This June 24th will be our fifth wedding anniversary. Jane From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 22:07:51 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:07:51 -0000 Subject: "A Crappy Valentine's Day" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" wrote: > > This is the funniest Valentine-related piece since Lockhart's dwarves: > > > http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4106 > > > - CMC *****\(@@)/***** That was priceless! My sides still hurt from laughing.... Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Mon Feb 14 22:20:53 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:20:53 -0600 Subject: this valentine's day Message-ID: <074f01c512e3$72c02b80$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> I forgot to mention that Eric gave me a chocoalte long-stemmed rose this morning, and there was a bag of chocolate hearts inside my lunch today. The rose was enough, I thought .. and I wasn't even expecting the extra chocolate. None of it has been eaten yet. :) Jane From ms-tamany at rcn.com Mon Feb 14 22:58:24 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:58:24 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] way off topic horrible horrible day please pray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4210E6C0.21946.77E5FFB@localhost> On 10 Feb 2005 at 17:16, spinelli372003 wrote: > > This is totally off topic but nothing in our lives it on topic right > now. could everyone please say some prayers. for 2 different > people. My daughter's very good friend has had a tragedy. Sherry, a friend on another list, who lost her not-quite-2-year-old daughter last September to some sudden crib death, sent me this information for you: Here are some phone numbers and websites for some SIDS groups. 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Molli Original Message ----- From: jlnbtr To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Grammys I was watching the Grammys last night and I heard this fabulous song, I don't know its name, but it was performed by Bono, Scott Weiland, Joss Stone, Norah Jones, Stevie Wonder, Slash, the list is long, so if anyone knows it name i'd really appreciate it. Thanks PS Happy Valentine's day!! ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From prongs at marauders-map.net Tue Feb 15 03:12:29 2005 From: prongs at marauders-map.net (Silver Stag) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:12:29 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter Personality Quiz References: <198.384b5eb2.2f3be8d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <027601c5130c$31ceaa10$0201a8c0@bettysue> I'm Lupin. He's one of my favorite characters, too. Betty From prongs at marauders-map.net Tue Feb 15 03:19:29 2005 From: prongs at marauders-map.net (Silver Stag) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:19:29 -0500 Subject: being sorted (was Harry Potter Personality Quiz) References: <77.3ee9448a.2f3d0bd2@aol.com> Message-ID: <02cf01c5130d$2bf11690$0201a8c0@bettysue> There are a whole bunch of house selectors at selectsmart unless they've taken them down. I haven't been there in at least half a year. Betty From msbeadsley at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 03:24:17 2005 From: msbeadsley at yahoo.com (msbeadsley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:24:17 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: <001401c512a3$d33bad80$0400a8c0@pensive> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" wrote: > Well, it's fantasy, and in fantasy, you just have to accept some > things happen as they happen. Suspending reality. One of my > absolute favorite fantasy novels, Tigana, by Guy Gavriel Kay, deals > with a situation For those unfamiliar with GGK, I recommend him highly; Tigana is also one of my favorite fantasy novels, and my #1 favorite of Kay's. (While he's always good, IMO Tigana is the tightest and most intense of his stories.) I'd recommend anything by this author. Sandy aka msbeadsley p.s. GGK's was the hand entrusted (along with Christopher Tolkien) to make something they could release out of J.R.R. Tolkien's unfinished manuscripts. From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 07:16:38 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:16:38 -0000 Subject: Book 6 questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have had a change of heart with some of my answers... so I thought I'd post them. 1) Who do you think the HBP is? There isn't one, but there will be when Hagrid graduates at the end of Book Seven. 8) Is Harry the heir of Gryffindor? Nope, That's Hagrid. 10) Will Percy reunite with his family? Yes, and the Twins will pay him out nastier than ever until Harry gets MAD at them Lily style, and tells them to stop. Valky From lavaluvn at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 07:34:16 2005 From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (lavaluvn) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:34:16 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally thrilled me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF and Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? Thanks much! Andromeda From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 15 09:05:12 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:05:12 -0000 Subject: Problems at the end of GOF!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >How did the Potter house get destroyed? > > > > Nicky Joe > Hi Nicky Joe, It's not just 'HOW' but it's also 'WHY' - in so far as WHY didn't Dumbledore or MacGonnagle give the Time Turner a little spin and take out Lord He-Who-Is-Convenient at his great moment of weakness after the event, or prepare a little 'welcome' for him BEFORE the event.. oh the folly of the TT... Sandra From shalimar07 at aol.com Tue Feb 15 12:49:13 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:49:13 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] my love story Message-ID: <75.3ef331a3.2f4349c9@aol.com> great Valentine's Day story. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 15:00:42 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050215150043.86463.qmail@web61007.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Andromeda, I've only recently caved in and let my three-year-old watch the first film, having been pestered about it for months. She's more than coped but I'm in no rush to let her see the next two and we won't be reading them for years. She's used to wicked witches in Disney films being killed off but I'm not sure how long my "it will be alright in the end" will apply in Harry Potter. It works for most kids stories. I can appreciate why you're worried. I once took a college course on Human Development which covered death and bereavment. I have a vague memory of being taught that kids don't really understand the idea of death being permenant until around seven, although they can experience grief much younger. How has she coped with the idea that Voldy killed Harry's parents? Or that Sirius and Remus were prepared to kill Peter Pettigrew? Does she respond to talking about any of the moral issues raised in the books? Could you use Dumbledore's end of term speech about doing what is right rather than what is easy to help her understand what's going on? You'll know best how she reacts to upsetting things, in stories and in real life. If you don't feel that she's ready to cope with the material in the books then why not let it end with Harry winning the triwizard tounament until she's a bit older. I don't think Harry is going to get much short-term peace for a while yet so it might be a good idea to leave it until she's a bit older. Do you read fanfic? Perhaps you could look out some kiddie friendly ones to tide her over? Good luck with it and let me know how you get on! I'll be in that position myself all too soon I'm sure Sam lavaluvn wrote: HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally thrilled me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF and Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? Thanks much! Andromeda ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT document.write(''); --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From naama_gat at hotmail.com Tue Feb 15 16:09:39 2005 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naamagatus) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:09:39 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MsTattersall" wrote: > > I may not be totally on board for this hypothesis, but it all does > beg the question: If Hagrid was vindicated by whatever Harry revealed > in the Chamber of Secrets, why has he not been reinstated as a wizard > and granted use of a new wand? He is, after all, half wizard by >blood (prince or no). He hasn't graduated - or whatever the term is - from Hogwarts. And his ancestry is irrelevant - since he was accepted to Hogwarts in the first place, he is magic. He just doesn't have the diploma. Naama From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Tue Feb 15 16:11:06 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:11:06 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502151111809.SM01516@devbox> > Andromeda: > > HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old > daughter has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which > naturally thrilled me at first. I've really enjoyed reading > the books out loud to her. My problem is that we've just > reached the last part of GOF and Cedric is going to die > (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in the near future. > Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to their young > children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if I can > get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of > language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't > know what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. > > Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? > > Thanks much! > > Andromeda Vivamus: I don't know if this will help, but my kids were very much into the HP stories at a young age. Let's see, we first got introduced to it when CoS was new -- that would have been summer of 1999. My daughter was five then, and my son was three. I read the first two books to my daughter that Fall, but not to my son until about a year later -- although he listened in on some of it the first time. I definitely did edit as I read, cutting out and jumping over language and scenes that I thought were too old for them. By the time PoA had come out, my daughter (still just barely six) had snuck off to read the first two books by herself, although it took her a few tries to get through the basilisk scene, because it was too scary for her. By then, she was telling the stories to her brother (who was four), so I decided to try to regain a little control by reading them to them both again. I still skipped over a lot of stuff, but it didn't bother either one of them. I think, at that age, they were more interested in the experience of the story than the logical flow of anything, and it didn't matter what was cut, skipped, or chopped, unless they had already learned and were expecting it. Even though my daughter had read the stories by then in their entirety, she still didn't mind my jumping around. So, if the graveyard scene is more than you want to do, just jump over the parts you don't like. E.g., when LV and PP come out, don't read the part about "kill the spare" and how built up the monstrous thing in the blankets is. (I didn't read those at all, because kids at that age are so concrete, they will see and absolutely believe in anything like that you describe.) I just skipped from Harry and Cedric arriving and PP coming up, to a quick summary. In fact, I told them I wouldn't be reading that chapter. As I recall, I said something like, "we're not going to read that chapter right now. I'll give you a summary of what happens, but the scene is too scary and grown-up for you until you're older." I think the synopsis I gave was something like: As soon as they touch the cup, Harry and Cedric are transported to a graveyard in back of the Riddle House -- a long ways from Hogwarts. Peter Pettigrew and Lord Voldemort come out, Cedric is killed by PP, LV gets his body back, all the old DEs return, including the parents of Malfoy, Crabb, and Goyle, and they give Harry back his wand so he and LV can duel. Then I would read from the beginning of the duel, because that's exciting, understandable to the younger ones, and Harry actually defeats LV in a direct contest of magical strength, which is pretty important. They never liked the summary very much, but since we couldn't find out what happened in the duel until they got past it, they took it pretty well. Burying the death of Cedric in the midst of all the other things that happen in a quick summary also seemed to take some of the scare out of it for them. That was my experience, so take it for what it's worth -- every family is different. (BTW, when PoA came out, my daughter read that one within a week or two of our getting it, as I didn't think it was nearly as scary as CoS. When GoF came out, I kept that book locked up for quite a while, until my daughter had heard the abridged version several times. Then she was allowed to read it through by herself. My son, who is now eight, has listened to the Jim Dale recordings of all five books, but only started to read them by himself last week. He is now about half-way through PoA.) Vivamus, who wonders if parents are ever really in control, or if that is just a myth fostered by Kids' Pravda From tahewitt at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 16:57:20 2005 From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:57:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Grammys In-Reply-To: <1108481377.1036.19214.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20050215165721.68609.qmail@web51707.mail.yahoo.com> Across the Universe is a really nice song. It was originally on The Beatles' Let it Be album (the version on the recent 'Let it Be-Naked' is even better). Rufus Wainwright does a great version, I think it's now available as a bonus track on his cd 'Poses', which is a wonderful album in its own right. Tyler I think this is what you are looking for. ----- A number of singers - Bono, Stevie Wonder, Steven Tyler, Brian Wilson, Billie Joe Armstrong, Norah Jones - gathered onstage to sing the Beatles' "Across the Universe" to benefit tsunami relief. The song is actually a Beatles' song.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bree4378 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 14:07:31 2005 From: bree4378 at yahoo.com (Sabrina) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:07:31 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Quizzes Message-ID: Ok, something weird occured when I took the quizzes. I took the quiz that tells you which character you are most like, and I got Albus Dumbledore. However, when I took the quiz that sorts you into a house, I was put into Slytherin....go figure! From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 20:00:34 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:00:34 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out Message-ID: Andromeda: >HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter >has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally thrilled >me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to >her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF and >Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in >the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to >their young children? Hi Andromeda! I'm just about to start reading GoF to my seven-year old daughter. We watch the movies on nearly a daily basis, and she's starting to ask me what happens in the next book. I think just going over the graphic scenes in detail will help - asking her how she feels about it, how she thinks Harry feels about it, why she thinks Voldemort killed Cedric... frankly there are worse things than Voldemort in our own world that I have a more difficult time talking about. I haven't really shielded mine from anything - when she was four, her favorite movie was The Mummy with Brendan Frasier and both my kids have seen it dozens of times. My five year old now loves a movie called Jeepers Creepers which is a pretty scary horror film (I actually wasn't going to let them watch it after the first pretty terrifying scene, but they begged and begged) - they've never had nightmares and I think it's because I watch the movies with them and overanalyze them to death. We laugh during Jeepers Creepers when the boy keeps walking closer to the scarecrow creature and my son says, "I would have gone back to the house when I saw it move the first time; that boy is not very smart" and I reply, "They had to have him go over there or it wouldn't be a scary movie." In one scene, someone is beheaded and I showed them how the neckline is perfectly smooth and the skin is quite plasticlike - it's very obviously a mannequin. They are both getting pretty good at finding things that are fake and they ask a lot of questions about how the movie people do makeup and effects. It's kind of disappointing to have to say, "Well, it's all done with computers. Spiderman isn't swinging through the air at all." So far, neither of my kids have shown any violent or extreme behavior and they both draw happy stick people and houses and flowers, so I don't think they've been damaged my "freedom of information" approach. Nicky Joe From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 20:05:48 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:05:48 -0000 Subject: Problems at the end of GOF!! Message-ID: >How did the Potter house get destroyed? Sandra: >It's not just 'HOW' but it's also 'WHY' - in so far as WHY didn't >Dumbledore or MacGonnagle give the Time Turner a little spin and take out Lord >He-Who-Is-Convenient at his great moment of weakness after the event, >or prepare a little 'welcome' for him BEFORE the event.. oh the folly of >the TT... Exactly! I really hate that Time Turner. They can only use it for trivial purposes... oh except in one case where they managed to actually save someone, but that was because the person was mysteriously saved and could only have been saved with someone using a Time Turner, otherwise they wouldn't have been saved. Twisted, horrible logic. Nicky Joe From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 20:11:51 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:11:51 -0000 Subject: Problems at the end of GoF! Message-ID: Moondance: >I would like to address the one part about the >state of the Potter's house. I recall how every time there is >a "duel" of some sort, or kids are learning new charms and spells, >how chaos happens when they miss their mark (think of the DA's in the >RR). So if LV and James are dueling, the house is getting destroyed >around them. Perhaps James is deliberately adding to the destruction >to provide obstacles for LV, thus buying more time for Lily and >Harry. Good plan. I wonder why Lily didn't take Harry and escape. Not too many mothers would stay and risk the death of their infant child, even if when desperate to save (or at least try to save) their spouse. Yes, she would have wanted to help James - but why not get Harry to safety first? >I've seen no canon regarding fire, only destruction. >Therefore, a pile of rubble, which is hiding Harry until Hagrid >rescues him, will also be hiding James, Lily, and LV wands, waiting >for someone to sift through to find. How easy for a rat to find the >prized possession(s?) and hide it somewhere (The Burrow?) until news >of LV return. So both Potter wands could also be intact. I can't think of any good purpose for them, so they probably won't turn up in the books, but I think Harry would at least like to have them as mementos. And in case his own wand gets broken or destroyed. Nicky Joe From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 15 21:39:39 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:39:39 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lavaluvn" wrote: > > HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter > has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally thrilled > me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to > her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF and > Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in > the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to > their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if > I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of > language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know > what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. > > Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? > > Thanks much! > > Andromeda Please don't read OoTP to such a young child. A friend of mine read OoTP to her 8yr old daughter when it was released, and didn't get beyond the first few chapters. My friend ended up telling her most of it in small bite-size pieces, not that she cared at all. It's miserable, very dull, not happy and doesn't improve at all. There's no warmth there, the innocence is completely gone, and Harry is an unlikeable hot head who got on my nerves. I didn't like it, my friend didn't, and her 8yr old is happy to stick to the merchandise! A book should take younger children to somewhere that's nice to be, somewhere that will play with their imagination - and the OoTP failed by a very long way. But that's just my opinion. Sandra - an aunt and Godmother! From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 15 21:30:49 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:30:49 -0000 Subject: Probs at the end of GOF!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "xcpublishing" wrote: > > >How did the Potter house get destroyed? > > Sandra: > >It's not just 'HOW' but it's also 'WHY' - in so far as WHY didn't > >Dumbledore or MacGonnagle give the Time Turner a little spin and > take out Lord > >He-Who-Is-Convenient at his great moment of weakness after the > event, > >or prepare a little 'welcome' for him BEFORE the event.. oh the > folly of > >the TT... > > Exactly! I really hate that Time Turner. They can only use it for > trivial purposes... oh except in one case where they managed to > actually save someone, but that was because the person was > mysteriously saved and could only have been saved with someone using > a Time Turner, otherwise they wouldn't have been saved. Twisted, > horrible logic. > > Nicky Joe Cheers Nicky Joe! It IS twisted, horrible logic - but what's most disturbing is how many millions of people don't mind one little bit! No joke, I was starting to think it was just me. There's been so many straw-clutching theories dreamed up on the formal topic pages, all of which can be summed up in one sentence - "JKR can do no wrong". Well she can and she did, in this instance. I like the books more or less, but the TT was a mistake to introduce, and wasn't even incorporated properly into the story. Harry can't save himself from a fate worse than death, because he needed to survive it in the first place in order to go back through time to save himself. That doesn't work! How many times do people need something so simple spelling out? Sandra, feeling much better for having said that. From Vivamus at TaprootTech.com Tue Feb 15 21:52:23 2005 From: Vivamus at TaprootTech.com (Vivamus) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:52:23 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Problems at the end of GOF!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502151652925.SM01516@devbox> > Sandra: > >It's not just 'HOW' but it's also 'WHY' - in so far as WHY didn't > >Dumbledore or MacGonnagle give the Time Turner a little spin and > take out Lord > >He-Who-Is-Convenient at his great moment of weakness after the > event, > >or prepare a little 'welcome' for him BEFORE the event.. oh the > folly of > >the TT... > > Exactly! I really hate that Time Turner. They can only use > it for trivial purposes... oh except in one case where they > managed to actually save someone, but that was because the > person was mysteriously saved and could only have been saved > with someone using a Time Turner, otherwise they wouldn't > have been saved. Twisted, horrible logic. > > Nicky Joe Vivamus: The logic is actually quite consistent; it just requires a little non-sequential thinking to put it together. Any dealing with time travel is going to have problems, but if you think about it, there is a very clever blending of both free will and predeterminism in the HP books. Once it was known that LV had gotten to the Potters and killed them, there was NOTHING to be done, and no advantage in the use of a TT. In GoF, no one on DD's side knew that LV had returned to his body until AFTER Harry returned with the dead Cedric, at which point, it was too late to do anything. One thing that COULD have been done, possibly, was to go to the graveyard, hide and watch, but not interact, in order to identify any unknown DEs. So far as we know, that may actually have been done, although I doubt it (too much risk for too little reward.) I don't think even DD would try to take on LV and all the DEs all by himself. The logical rule that JKR seems to be using in time travel is, "you cannot change the present. What is done is done. You can only change the unknown future by interacting with the past, and have an effect on the present about which you do not know now." So, you can go back in time and exercise free will, but that exercise of free will cannot give rise to a present reality other than the one you already know -- although it can effect great change in the parts of the present not currently known, as well as on the (current) future. No paradoxes. The logic is convoluted, I know, but it is also consistent, and it works, if you realize that sequential rules won't work in nonsequential time. That may not be altogether satisfactory, but it does provide sound reasons why the TT cannot be used in circumstances like those. Vivamus From stbjohn2 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 21:59:04 2005 From: stbjohn2 at yahoo.com (stbjohn2) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:59:04 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lavaluvn" wrote: > > HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter > has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally thrilled > me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to > her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF and > Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in > the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to > their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if > I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of > language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know > what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. > > Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? > > Thanks much! > > Andromeda I started this by typing lots of personal anecdotes, but the truth is, every kid is so different. I think you just need to go with your instincts. If your children are sensitive, gloss over the yucky parts. I read GOF to my son when he was 7 and he did fine with it. We read OOTP last summer (he was 8), and frankly, I think he was bored with a lot of it; he spent the first 3rd of the book asking "But when's Harry going to get to Hogwarts". I've discouraged him from reading it to himself, even though he has read the other four, just because it seems so much more adult than the others (though I started to feel that way with book 3). I would try to put off reading OOTP to children as young as yours, because of the boredom factor if nothing else. Good luck Sandy From shalimar07 at aol.com Tue Feb 15 23:50:56 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:50:56 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 2 - Harry's Discovery Message-ID: <1a4.31b30854.2f43e4e0@aol.com> Sorry it has taken so long to respond but it was Valentine's Day. Harry?s Discovery If HBP has something to do with a discovery Harry made in Book two ?Chamber of Secrets? than here is my two knuts worth. JKR has given us the name of three HBP chapters. I would like to dwell on Chapter Six ?Draco?s Detour?. When Harry takes an accidental detour from the Burrow via the Floo System he winds up in Knockturn Alley sprawled on the floor of Bogin & Burkes. After a quick look around and before he can leave he sees the Malfoys. He hides so he doesn?t have to confront the pair. Now the fun begins. Skip Lucious and go directly to Draco? Draco has been told to ?touch nothing?. Of course he?s a kid in a candy store and wants everything. He ask his father if he can have ?the withered hand on it?s cushion?. Mr. Borgin is delighted exclaiming ?Ah, the Hand of Glory!? ?Insert a cadle and it gives light only to the holder. Best friend of thieves and plunders!? Lucious doesn?t buy it for him saying he would hope his son would amount to more than that. However, if his grades don?t pick up that may be all he?s fit for! (little side note: Isn?t Dean Thomas? boggart a severed hand?) Anyway, Draco?s response is always to blame his problems on someone else..this time Hermoine. Saying the teachers prefer her. Now further down on the page he comes across ?a magnificent necklace of opals ?. With a sign that says, ?Caution: Do Not Touch. Cursed ? Has claimed the lives of nineteen muggle owners to date?. If there?s something JKR wants you to notice she will either Italicize a line or not finish a sentence. If, and I said ?If? someone is going to die in Book Six could it be a muggle? What better way for Draco to try and get rid of Hermoine and get back at Harry than to kill off Hermoine?s Mom by sending the necklace to her. Remember it says Muggle owners and not Witches. If he succeeds in doing that it will open up a whole string of events including the wrath of Arthur Weasley because of his love of muggles. I could go on and on but I?m not writing a editorial. So, in a nutshell, I feel the discovery Harry made and 'Draco's Detour' could be the ?little shop of horrors? in Knockturn Alley called Borgin & Burkes. Mary >(snip quite a long but very interesting background on how Valky arrived at the following): > > And here's the punch line, finally, Hagrid is Godric Gryffindors > Heir, and the Half-Blood Prince is what he *would have been*, if he > ever had completed his schooling and taken his *true* place in the > Castle Hogwarts. > > That's my theory, > Mary's turn... :D > > Valky [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kelleythompson at gbronline.com Wed Feb 16 02:32:45 2005 From: kelleythompson at gbronline.com (Kelley) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:32:45 -0000 Subject: Reminder: Feedback Group Message-ID: Just wanted to remind everyone that a little more is required when joining the Feedback group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Feedback). Feedback is a moderated membership group, and when you join you are sent a message with information about the group. In this message you are asked to send an email from your primary account confirming you've received and read that message. When we receive your confirmation message, we'll then send your membership through. At the moment there are two members from whom we're waiting the confirmation message (one from a week ago). Please check the email address you used to join that group and send the confirmation message, so I may wave you through. Thanks, everyone! --Kelley Elf From cwood at tattersallpub.com Wed Feb 16 03:20:22 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:20:22 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > He hasn't graduated - or whatever the term is - from Hogwarts. And > his ancestry is irrelevant - since he was accepted to Hogwarts in the > first place, he is magic. He just doesn't have the diploma. > Naama Yes, of course Hagrid is magical, and always has been--but when he was expelled from Hogwarts and his wand broken, he was forbidden to do magic. Certainly he CAN do magic, and we saw him do it (Dudley's pig-tail in SS/PS). He doesn't need the Hogwarts diploma after 50 years of life experience. My point was that since Harry has helped to reveal that it was Tom Riddle and not Hagrid who opened the Chamber of Secrets and caused Myrtle's death, he should be publicly vindicated and officially allowed to use magic. And get a real wand, not just a pink umbrella! Ms. Tattersall, a big fan of Hagrid From swartell at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 03:44:05 2005 From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:44:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Problems at the end of GOF!! In-Reply-To: <200502151652925.SM01516@devbox> Message-ID: <20050216034406.81372.qmail@web53206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Vivamus wrote: > > The logic is actually quite consistent; it just > requires a little > non-sequential thinking to put it together. Sue now: Vivamus, thanks for your explanation, which I found very well explained. I agree with you. The rules in POA are internally consistant, in my view. They also consistant with the standard constraints put on time-travel in most science fiction, in my experience. There are always constraints on the ways in which you can interact with the past. The most common constraint is that you can't change the past, either because you risk wiping out your present/future (so there are strict rules forbiding it), or because time is very resiliant (so that if you eliminate Hitler, some other evil person comes to power and wreaks similar distruction and death.) The exact rules depend on the universe in which they are operating. The reason for the limitation is similar to the reason that magic always has limits or a cost. If there were a character with absolute power/ability to fix anything and everything, without consequences, you wouldn't have much of a story. The other variety of time-travel science fiction I'm familiar with has good guys running around undoing the harm the bad guys are trying to do. Those usually depend on some variation of the resiliant time constraint, so they just have to nudge things back into the right direction. Now if you want to argue about whether the time turner as a plot device worked in the context of the Harry Potter stories, that's different. It didn't bother me, but tastes vary. I've read a variety of time-travel stories, and am willing to buy it in the same way that I'm willing to buy owl post and flying broomsticks and dragons and thestrals and lots of other stuff. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 16 09:19:13 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:19:13 -0000 Subject: TT probs at the end of GOF & PoA. In-Reply-To: <200502151652925.SM01516@devbox> Message-ID: Following on from a TT issue spinning off from GoF and also CoS... > Vivamus wrote: > > The logic is convoluted, I know, but it is also consistent, and it works, if > you realize that sequential rules won't work in nonsequential time. > That may not be altogether satisfactory, but it does provide sound reasons > why the TT cannot be used in circumstances like those. > > Vivamus You're right - it's not altogether satisfactory. The reason the TT logic is convoluted is because JKR didn't work out the underlying principles in the first place, the most significant of which is that you can't go back and save yourself from a fatal (or near fatal encounter) if you only survive that encounter by going back to save yourself - all on the same evening as well!! That just makes it even worse, and it registers a maximum "10" on the Flawed Logicometer. I just don't understand why people are so happy to desperately dream up a million different ways to make up for a weak plot-device which simply doesn't work in the first place. JKR does not walk on water, folks, and tyhe introduction and the implimentation of the TT shows it. Wake up and smell the coffee - you ARE allowed to! Sandra, with both hands raised in despair. From spin01 at aol.com Wed Feb 16 15:35:14 2005 From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:35:14 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, You will probably get a lot of answers on this post. My own personal opinion is to hold off on the 5th book till your child is able to read it on her own.There are always those who say let a kid have acess to anything they want as far as reading goes but I am not one of them lol. I think if they are able to readit themselves that is one thing but to read it to them I would say no. My 9yr old is currently listening to the 5th book on tape and what I have found is that he goes back and forth in the cd's and listens to the parts he likes and skips whole sections that are over his head. some kids are way advanced in their reading skills but his are at the average 3rd grade level he can read the first couple just fine but when it gets to the 3rd and forward they get really wordy and he just gets bogged down and loses interest. sherry --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "stbjohn2" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lavaluvn" > wrote: > > > > HI everyone, I have a bit of a dilemma. My six-year-old daughter > > has gone and become a Harry Potter fanatic, which naturally > thrilled > > me at first. I've really enjoyed reading the books out loud to > > her. My problem is that we've just reached the last part of GOF > and > > Cedric is going to die (tomorrow night, yikes!) and OOTP lurks in > > the near future. Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to > > their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if > > I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of > > language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know > > what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. > > > > Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might > help...? > > > > Thanks much! > > > > Andromeda > > I started this by typing lots of personal anecdotes, but the truth > is, every kid is so different. I think you just need to go with your > instincts. If your children are sensitive, gloss over the yucky parts. > I read GOF to my son when he was 7 and he did fine with it. We read > OOTP last summer (he was 8), and frankly, I think he was bored with a > lot of it; he spent the first 3rd of the book asking "But when's > Harry going to get to Hogwarts". I've discouraged him from reading it > to himself, even though he has read the other four, just because it > seems so much more adult than the others (though I started to feel > that way with book 3). I would try to put off reading OOTP to > children as young as yours, because of the boredom factor if nothing > else. > Good luck > Sandy From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Wed Feb 16 15:33:58 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:33:58 -0000 Subject: Birthday greetings...lots of them Message-ID: ***pushes a trolley laiden with with loads of party food and several large cakes into the room*** Apologies for missing several birthdays over the past few days. I've been struck down with flu and have barely been out of bed, much less online. I solemnly swear that I've *not* been up to no good and have not coughed and hacked all over the food. ;) Sooo...here are the birthday babes so far this week: Feb 14th: Brandon (bak42 at netzero.net), Tonks (NymphadoraOTonks at aol.com), and Lena aka CJK (lena at warpedcore.net) Feb 15th: Dan aka darkthirty, aka Kranky Elf (dark30 at vcn.bc.ca), Riet (strijkg at ex4all.nl), and Miss Norbert von Ridgeback (wimfok at consunet.nl) Feb 16: Betty aka SilverStag (prongs at marauders-map.net) Happy Birthday to all of you, and Dizzy Elf will make every effort to actually stay healthy for the rest of the year. ***walks away singing "Er zijn er twee jarig, hoera, hoera..."*** Dizzy Elf (aka Mary Ann, clutching a lukewarm water bottle) From entropymail at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 16:48:54 2005 From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:48:54 -0000 Subject: HELP! Any fellow parents of young Potter fans out there.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lavaluvn" wrote: Has anyone else out there read Books 4 or 5 to > their young children? I'm tempted to put off OOTP indefinitely, if > I can get away with it. I've done a little judicious editing of > language now and then, but not cut much out, and now I don't know > what to do with the heavy stuff that's coming. > > Anyone have any ideas, recommendations, anecdotes that might help...? > Hi, Andromeda. I had a similar experience with my two boys. My older one has been reading the series on his own since he was about 7, so my younger one was anxious to have me read it aloud to him as soon as he was old enough to understand it. I've read all of the books to him now with just a bit of judicious editing on my part. When we got to GOF, however, I did spill the beans and just went ahead and told him about the death beforehand. I think this little preparation before the fact was helpful, and he didn't seem to mind the graveyard scene one bit (if anything, he was much more concerned about Harry, and didn't mind the rest of it much at all). Basically, you know your child better than anyone. If she's especially sensitive, then perhaps holding off a bit would be right for her. But, in my experience, children generally don't invest as much "emotion" into the story as an adult might, and take it all in stride. :: Entropy :: online portfolio: www.geocities.com/entropymail From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Wed Feb 16 17:06:14 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:06:14 EST Subject: FREE copies of HPHBP .... Message-ID: The following article says that "Whimsic Alley" is offering free copies of HPHBP with purchase! I've been to the store in Los Angeles ... it's chock full of Potter-stuff. :) Whimsic Alley Offers Customers New Harry Potter Book for Free http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050214/phm024_2.html Happy Shopping! Elizabeth --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From n2fgc at arrl.net Wed Feb 16 18:11:03 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:11:03 -0500 Subject: I'm Back...in body but not brain Message-ID: Well, it's been a great month of visiting and traveling for me and Art, but I'm back...and I see I've got a heck of a lot of catching up to do!!!!!!! Methinketh I'll be reading for the next couple of days non-stop...but I can't do that! I've got laundry, and unpacking, and all that horrid stuff that accompanies reality setting in...AAARG! Well, as soon as I can, I'll try to reply to--to--uh--well--... Happy belated Valentine's day! Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From ms-tamany at rcn.com Wed Feb 16 19:16:17 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:16:17 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] TT probs at the end of GOF & PoA. In-Reply-To: References: <200502151652925.SM01516@devbox> Message-ID: <421355B1.5058.6851127@localhost> On 16 Feb 2005 at 9:19, sandra87b wrote: > > > Following on from a TT issue spinning off from GoF and also CoS... > > JKR does not walk on > water, folks, and tyhe introduction and the implimentation of the TT shows it. > Wake up and smell the coffee - you ARE allowed to! > > Sandra, with both hands raised in despair. Likewise, though, we ARE allowed to be completely dumbfounded by some people's total lack of acceptance of Jo's version of time travel, when it so obviously works and makes perfect sense for us. ;-) Suffice it to say that some of us here have absolutely no problems at all with the TT and time travel in general, and some of us here can't accept it at all. Oh well. Speaking of coffee, I brought donuts! OOOOO *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Check out my site: http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=trnetworks From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 19:52:32 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:52:32 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts - Clear Hagrid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MsTattersall" wrote: > > > He hasn't graduated ... from Hogwarts. ...since he was accepted to > > Hogwarts in the first place, he is magic. He just doesn't have the > >diploma. > > Naama > Yes, of course Hagrid is magical,... but when he was expelled from > Hogwarts..., he was forbidden to do magic. ... he CAN do magic, ... > (But) He doesn't need the Hogwarts diploma after 50 years of life > experience. > > My point was that since Harry has helped to reveal that it was Tom > Riddle and not Hagrid who opened the Chamber of Secrets ..., he > should be publicly vindicated and officially allowed to use magic. ... > > Ms. Tattersall, > a big fan of Hagrid bboyminn: I've addressed this issue before, so I'll try and keep to the short version. You say that '...he shoud be publically vindicated...', and therein lies the exact problem. It has become privately and generally known that Hagrid didn't do it, but there has been no official court hearing to publicly clear his name. I've been hoping the Dumbledore would instigate an official effort to have Hagrid's status legally reversed since the end of CoS. Once the court has made it a matter of public record, I'm more than convinced that Hagrid's life experience and many years at Hogwarts more than qualify him for full wizard status and a new wand. This is especially important as we proceed into the next books. The war is in full swing now, and we need every person available operating at peak efficiency. Hagrid certainly can't do that when he has to go around pretending he doesn't have a wand. It's high time they officially cleared Hagrid's name. Steve/bboyminn From tonks_op at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 21:37:08 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:37:08 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts - Clear Hagrid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > This is especially important as we proceed into the next books. The > war is in full swing now, and we need every person available operating at peak efficiency. Hagrid certainly can't do that when he has to go around pretending he doesn't have a wand. > > It's high time they officially cleared Hagrid's name. > > Steve/bboyminn Tonks_op: Good idea, you could start a *clear Hagrid* campaign. Make a website. I'll make the placards and organize the pickets. ;-) Tonks From leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com Wed Feb 16 21:52:01 2005 From: leslie.s.bennett at lmco.com (moondance241) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:52:01 -0000 Subject: Is it a clue? Message-ID: Perhaps everyone else has been seeing this for awhile, but I just noticed it. At JKR's site, on the "Extra Stuff" page (coffee/tea cup), there is a scrap piece of paper hanging on the far right side of bulletin board with the words "Blood Prince" circled in red. What caught my eye is what else is on that paper. It looks to me like the side of a sketched lions mane, which of course leads me to the description of an unknown person she posted earlier. So, do you think its a clue as to the identity of the Half-Blood Prince? From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 21:56:16 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:56:16 -0000 Subject: FREE copies of HPHBP .... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, LunaLovesHarry at a... wrote: > The following article says that "Whimsic Alley" is offering free copies of > HPHBP with purchase! I've been to the store in Los Angeles ... it's chock full of Potter-stuff. :) > > Whimsic Alley Offers Customers New Harry Potter Book for Free > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050214/phm024_2.html > > Happy Shopping! > > Elizabeth > > > --------------------- > "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I > love Luna." > J.K. Rowling > Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 > (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) > *****\(@@)/***** Interesting site but I note they are not carrying WB official products. They seemed to have come up with an interesting selection. My personal favorite is the bumper sticker "Bad Dobby" Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 16 23:37:20 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:37:20 -0000 Subject: What are Muesli flakes like? Message-ID: Ok, can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? Thanks! imamommy From ms-tamany at rcn.com Wed Feb 16 23:53:08 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:53:08 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42139694.17327.7828BE2@localhost> > imamommy: > Ok, can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make > some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I > don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an > equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? > > Thanks! Tammy Rizzo: I'm not from Oz, but I have lived in Europe, where Meusli is very big. It's a Bavarian dish, basically a multi-grain cereal, but using a lot more and different grains than is common in the United States. If you can't find actual Meusli flakes, then try some multi-grain flakes. If nothing else, corn flakes would be a loose facsimile. :-) *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Check out my site: http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=trnetworks From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 01:28:16 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:28:16 -0000 Subject: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: <42139694.17327.7828BE2@localhost> Message-ID: > > imamommy: can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? > > > > Thanks! > > Tammy Rizzo: > I'm not from Oz, but I have lived in Europe, where Meusli is very big. It's a Bavarian dish, basically a multi-grain cereal, but using a lot more and different grains than is common in the United States. If you can't find actual Meusli flakes, then try some multi- grain flakes. If nothing else, corn flakes would be a loose facsimile. :-) > Hi Aussie Girl here! Our Muesli is fairly similar to the European stuff. The base ingredient of Muesli and Muesli Flakes is Oats. Cornflakes are the same texture and size, but Oat flakes would be more like the originally intended flavour. I'd say Tammy is right that Multigrain flakes would be the most like our Muesli flakes, but just from the description that she gives, because we don't have multigrain flakes here. Valky From bunniqula at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 01:30:14 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Bunniqula Mail) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:30:14 -0000 Subject: Viggo's living room is a mess.... Message-ID: ...But an *artistic* mess. Hehe. http://www.viggo-mortensen.net/viggoroombackground.jpg The pic came from his book, _Recent Forgeries_, which isn't really recent (back in 1998). Heh, I'd be curious to see his kitchen since he mentioned he paints there and stored his poetry in the refrigerator. He cracks me up. Viggo used to personally reply to fan letters and I got one of his paintings depicted on a postcard where he wrote out his thanks and I still sometimes wonder which side is up on the painting... Yeah, yeah, I have very little sense of art. Dina From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 01:37:32 2005 From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:37:32 -0000 Subject: Book 2 - Your thoughts - Clear Hagrid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hagrid...... > > > He hasn't graduated ... from Hogwarts. ...since he was > accepted to Hogwarts in the first place, he is magic. He just > doesn't have the diploma. > > > Naama > he should be publicly vindicated and officially allowed to use > magic. ... > > > > Ms. Tattersall, > > a big fan of Hagrid > bboyminn: > I've been hoping the Dumbledore would instigate an official effort > to have Hagrid's status legally reversed since the end of CoS. > Once the court has made it a matter of public record, I'm more > than convinced that Hagrid's life experience and many years at > Hogwarts more than qualify him for full wizard status and a new > wand. > > This is especially important as we proceed into the next books. The > war is in full swing now, and we need every person available > operating at peak efficiency. Hagrid certainly can't do that when > he has to go around pretending he doesn't have a wand. > > It's high time they officially cleared Hagrid's name. Valky: I see your point Steve, but I don't think it will happen this way. Hypothetically, I am working on that the foreshadowing of Book Seven is the House Cup Presentation in PS/SS. I think Four previously unrecognised acts will be rewarded in Book Seven as DD does in the House Cup presentation. One will be Hagrids graduation and official graduation as a full fledged wizard, I don't know what the others are, perhaps a posthumous pardon and reward for Loyalty for Sirius and a Order of Merlin for Snape... Valky From saitaina at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 17 01:44:58 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:44:58 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Viggo's living room is a mess.... References: Message-ID: <042701c51492$4a4f0300$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Looks like my office/bedroom/living room...minus the pants on the chair and the dog (though I do have a shirt on a rack of shelves and a cat). This seems to be common amongst artistic types. Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ms-tamany at rcn.com Thu Feb 17 01:57:01 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:57:01 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Viggo's living room is a mess.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4213B39D.24318.7F3FBB0@localhost> On 17 Feb 2005 at 1:30, Bunniqula Mail wrote: > > ...But an *artistic* mess. Hehe. > > http://www.viggo-mortensen.net/viggoroombackground.jpg Oh my goodness! Now I feel SOOOO much better about my two piles of laundry (clean and dirty, of course), and the general state of the whole house -- at least WE have actual FLOOR to walk on, instead of stuff! LOL! > The pic came from his book, _Recent Forgeries_, which isn't really > recent (back in 1998). Heh, I'd be curious to see his kitchen since > he mentioned he paints there and stored his poetry in the > refrigerator. He cracks me up. Hmmm. My hubby kept an automobile engine in the living room for three years before shifting it to the kitchen, where it stayed for six months before being taken down to the basement. All in all, even with the engine being on a wheeled table in the kitchen, I think I'd prefer poetry in the fridge to an engine in front of the oven/fridge/back door/dishwasher/sink (depending on where I had to wheel it to get it out of my immediate way). Of course, now that the engine's out of the kitchen, his camping gear is taking its place. *SIGH* > Viggo used to personally reply to fan letters and I got one of his > paintings depicted on a postcard where he wrote out his thanks and I > still sometimes wonder which side is up on the painting... Yeah, yeah, > I have very little sense of art. > > Dina Oooh, but you have a bit of Viggo art! COOLNESS! Hmm. I wonder if you can't tell top from sideways on his art because he can't seem to tell right from down in his own house? Gotta love the guy, though. ;-) *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Check out my site: http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=trnetworks From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 17 02:42:13 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:42:13 -0000 Subject: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks! I know we have a cereal called Muesix, but I'm not sure what's in it; I seem to remember it being sort of Granola-esque. I will have to do with the best that the Farmer Jack can provide.. Incidently, the recipe also calls for "125 grams butter." Anyone happen to know what that works out to in tablespoons? imamommy --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" wrote: > > > > > imamommy: can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make > some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I > don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an > equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tammy Rizzo: > > I'm not from Oz, but I have lived in Europe, where Meusli is very > big. It's a Bavarian dish, basically a multi-grain cereal, but > using a lot more and different grains than is common in the United > States. If you can't find actual Meusli flakes, then try some multi- > grain flakes. If nothing else, corn flakes would be a loose > facsimile. :-) > > > > > > Hi Aussie Girl here! > > Our Muesli is fairly similar to the European stuff. The base > ingredient of Muesli and Muesli Flakes is Oats. > > Cornflakes are the same texture and size, but Oat flakes would be > more like the originally intended flavour. > > I'd say Tammy is right that Multigrain flakes would be the most like > our Muesli flakes, but just from the description that she gives, > because we don't have multigrain flakes here. > > > Valky From ms-tamany at rcn.com Thu Feb 17 03:58:37 2005 From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:58:37 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4213D01D.5407.8634F61@localhost> > imamommy: > Incidently, the recipe also calls for "125 grams butter." Anyone > happen to know what that works out to in tablespoons? Tammy Rizzo: Ummm . . . I used to know that . . . lessee . . . 125 grams divided by 3 tablespoons in an ounce, times the number of wrinkles in a gherkin, carry the twelve, blend well . . . . 42? *** Tammy Rizzo ms-tamany at rcn.com Check out my site: http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=trnetworks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 17 04:43:39 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:43:39 -0000 Subject: Answering my own question (was Re: What are Muesli flakes like?) In-Reply-To: <4213D01D.5407.8634F61@localhost> Message-ID: According to a conversion cart I found here, http://www.cafecreosote.com/Reference/equivalents.php3 There is 113.4 grams of butter in one stick. A stick and a half gets you up to 170 grams, so I suppose about 9 tablespoons of butter would get me to my destination. Divide that by the amount of calories in my Muesli flakes, add my age plus the number of children I have... ;) imamommy --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tammy Rizzo" wrote: > > imamommy: > > Incidently, the recipe also calls for "125 grams butter." Anyone > > happen to know what that works out to in tablespoons? > > Tammy Rizzo: > Ummm . . . I used to know that . . . lessee . . . 125 grams divided by 3 tablespoons in an > ounce, times the number of wrinkles in a gherkin, carry the twelve, blend well . . . . > > 42? > > *** > Tammy Rizzo > ms-tamany at r... > Check out my site: http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=trnetworks > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From miss_megan at bigpond.com Thu Feb 17 10:24:22 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:24:22 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know about the bavarian dish but I'm pretty darn sure muesli flakes are a propririty breakfast cereal .. I'm sure I've been subjected to adds for them at some stage. But which one? Well it's your choice really Uncle Tobys and Purina both sell them. I'm pretty sure Kellogg also sell a version. I've seen the wiggles page when I googled Muesli flakes and they don't suggest which brand - darn them and their failure to provide accurate directions! So you are faced with a choice - how horrible - and a quick trip to your favourite local supermarket chain might resolve the matter for you - which might be worse. storm > > imamommy: can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? > > > > Thanks! > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 From bhobbs36 at verizon.net Thu Feb 17 13:44:53 2005 From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:44:53 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Welcome Sandra! I'm surprised you didn't get a bunch of responses to your post, I thought it was very clever! I caught most all of your references and giggled many times. :D I especially liked "Arthur Weasley getting a job at a nuclear power plant", genius! Thanks for sharing your wit, and hope you enjoy this group. Bel~ From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Thu Feb 17 15:09:02 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:09:02 EST Subject: ANDROMEDA - fellow parents of young Potter fans out there Message-ID: <191.39256213.2f460d8e@aol.com> Hi Andromeda, I too have a six year old who has become an HP fan in recent monthes. Mostly due to the movies though. I don't know what to tell you as I'm not sure if I will even take him to see GOF with the last scenes being as dark as they are. He keeps asking to go when it comes out, but I'm not sure. I will probably see it first and then if I think it's ok, I'll take him to it (he'll be closer to 7 when the movie comes out). I'm anxious to hear how you handled reading Cedric's death to your daughter! :) Keep us posted. "Luna" --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 17 15:47:43 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:47:43 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" wrote: > > Welcome Sandra! > I'm surprised you didn't get a bunch of responses to your post, I > thought it was very clever! > I caught most all of your references and giggled many times. :D > I especially liked "Arthur Weasley getting a job at a nuclear power > plant", genius! > Thanks for sharing your wit, and hope you enjoy this group. > Bel Thank you Belinda, that's nice of you. I was starting to feel neglected over it, but the group is very entertaining. I was hoping people might come up with their own off-centre suggestions for the next book, but there you go. I forgot to mention that Mr & Mrs Dursley were going to appear in a fly-on-the-wall series about dieting, springboarding Dudley into a short-lived career as a Meatloaf looky-like. Makes perfect sense to me, and I won't be at all surprised if it happens. Sandra. From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com Thu Feb 17 17:33:57 2005 From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:33:57 EST Subject: Free HP Book - dudemom Message-ID: <194.38b96128.2f462f85@aol.com> In a message dated 2/17/2005 7:14:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes: > "Interesting site but I note they are not carrying WB official products." Really? When I was at the store they carried EVERYTHING! I guess I have to go poke around the site and look. Can't imagine things changing in the last month though. By the way, I have a "My other car is the knight bus" sticker on my car. LOL Elizabeth --------------------- "... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic. I love Luna." J.K. Rowling Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004 (Speaking about the meeting between Skeeter, Hermoine and Luna.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bboyminn at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 17:44:40 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:44:40 -0000 Subject: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" wrote: > > Ok, can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make > some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I > don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an > equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? > > Thanks! > imamommy bboyminn: I'm curious why you asked for someone from Australia, are you in Australia, is this a Australian recipe? Muesli is a very popular breakfast cereal in Europe, and is made primarily of rolled oats. It's not made of 'flake' cereal, it looks more like dry oatmeal. Rolled oats are also typically the base for Granola, but Muesli is very dry and loose, whereas, Granola has honey or suger added to 'glue' the little clumps of granola together. The most popular brand of true muesli in the USA, and also available nearly everywhere in the world, is Familia Brand ... http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-local/frameset/detail/361753.html It consists of .... Oat flakes, wheat flakes, barley flakes, dried raisins, shredded whole wheat and rye, hazelnuts, dates, apples, bananas, almonds. If you search Google, you will find several sites that have recipies for making your own Muesli. That should give you a clue as to what's in it. Also, here is a link to the popular Australian gourmet Carman's Muesli,,, http://www.carmansmuesli.com/muesli-packaging.html The only cereals I've seen that would qualify as Muesli /flakes/ are just a blend of assorted common breakfast cereal flakes; oat flakes, wheat flakes, corn flakes, etc.... Also, most flake or rolled oat Muesli will have raisins and chopped nuts in them. Rolled oat Muesli is also a very dense cereal since it is not all fluffed and puffed by processing. One cup of Muesli is about like 3 or 4 cups of normal /kids/ cereal. Like I said, the Familia Brand is very very close to the Muesli I ate every morning when I traveled in Germany. Familia is available either in health food stores or in the health food section of most large grocery stores. The first thing you should try to determine is if you need /real/ Muesli or muesli flakes. If you need muesli flakes, then I would also look in a health food store or the health food section of your grocer's. There are companies who have made an attempt at duplicating Muesli in /flake/ cereal to make it more apealing to muggle kids. These health food /flake/ versions will probably be less sweet than the more commercial (Kelloge, Post, etc...) versions. Hope that helps. Steve. From pbarhug at earthlink.net Thu Feb 17 19:25:05 2005 From: pbarhug at earthlink.net (Pam Hugonnet) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:25:05 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What are Muesli flakes like? References: Message-ID: <014a01c51526$62f34da0$0301000a@DJZCB631> imamommy wrote: Ok, can someone in Australia help me out? I'd love to make some "Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes" as suggested by The Wiggles, but I don't rightly know what Muesli flakes are. Would corn flakes be an equivalent, or am I needing something more oatmeal-ish? Thanks! imamommy and Steve replied: The most popular brand of true muesli in the USA, and also available nearly everywhere in the world, is Familia Brand ... http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-local/frameset/detail/361753.html It consists of .... Oat flakes, wheat flakes, barley flakes, dried raisins, shredded whole wheat and rye, hazelnuts, dates, apples, bananas, almonds. now pam says: Familia is a very popular and common brand. My husband ate it for breakfast everyday for years (yeech). You should be able to find it in any supermarket; if not in the cereal aisle, you might have to look in the gourmet or international food aisle. Stores like Whole Foods also sell many different brands, some cheaper than Familia, which can be on the pricey side. As for the butter issue: a stick of butter (4oz) is 113 g. So 125g of butter is roughly 11/8th stick or 1 stick plus two tablespoons. Nice to see there is another parent out there in Wiggle land. We (the kids and me) made the crunchy munchy recipe; the results were interesting. I'd like to hear how your kids like them. BTW, to Steve: The Wiggles are an Austrailian musical act for children. They are 4 guys in their late 30's/early 40's (Greg Page, Anthony Field, Murray Cook and Jeff Fatt) who sing vaugely educational very catchy songs for the pre-school set. Crucnhy-Munchy Honeycakes is one of their songs ("they're great to eat and they're fun to make..in your hand or on a plate, crunchy, munchy honeycakes"). You can find out more than you ever wanted to know about them at www.thewiggles.com . Between the TV shows, cd's dvd's and live shows, they make money hand-over-fist. My husband and I joke that we should just send half our monthly income directly to them--it would be cheaper. pam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lupinesque at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 21:23:01 2005 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:23:01 -0000 Subject: Haggridd Message-ID: I am sorry to bear the bad news that John Kusalavage, MD, known to this list as Haggridd, died on January 22. His cousin passed the news along to Constance Vigilance, knowing that his HP friends were important to him. John and I were good friends, and I must have spoken to him just a few days before he died. I knew he had health problems but had no idea there was anything life-threatening. I miss him. The HP fandom will miss his filks. He was eagerly awaiting HBP and the new Discworld book, in which a vampire was at last going to join the City Watch (Otto Chriek was his favorite character). It's so sad he didn't live to see them, nor to go to Accio, for which he was one of the first people to register. His memorial service is this Sunday, and I will be sending flowers. If anyone else would like to sign onto them, please e-mail me offlist. Amy Z From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 21:28:54 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:28:54 -0000 Subject: TT probs at the end of GOF & PoA. Message-ID: Sandra: >You're right - it's not altogether satisfactory. >The reason the TT logic is convoluted is because JKR didn't work out >>the underlying principles in the first place, the most significant of which is that you >can't go back and save yourself from a fatal (or near fatal encounter) >if you only survive that encounter by going back to save yourself - all on the >same evening as well!! That just makes it even worse, and it registers a >maximum "10" on the Flawed Logicometer. I just don't understand why people are >so happy to desperately dream up a million different ways to make up for a >weak plot-device which simply doesn't work in the first place. JKR does not >walk on water, folks, and tyhe introduction and the implimentation of the TT >shows it. Wake up and smell the coffee - you ARE allowed to! I never had issues with "how" the thing worked, even though Sandra's rant explains why it annoyed me from the very beginning. And then Harry can't use it to save Sirius because "Sirius wasn't saved" is irritating beyond reason. Why even have the thing if it can only be used under pre-arranged circumstances? (Events in PofA had to happen that way. Because they did. Which means H and H had no say in how events turned out.) Even more than it being a flawed plot device, I'm angry that it allows her way too much freedom. I have a feeling the TT is going to turn up again (shudder) and I will be thoroughly annoyed if JRK uses it to write herself out of a corner. Any time things get too sticky, she can just whip out the old Time Turner and pretty up that nasty plotline so Harry can save himself and everyone else again. Well, except Sirius, because he "wasn't saved". Nicky Joe From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 23:55:32 2005 From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:55:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I'm Back...in body but not brain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050217235532.44561.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com> "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)" wrote: Well, it's been a great month of visiting and traveling for me and Art, but I'm back...and I see I've got a heck of a lot of catching up to do!!!!!!! Methinketh I'll be reading for the next couple of days non-stop...but I can't do that! I've got laundry, and unpacking, and all that horrid stuff that accompanies reality setting in...AAARG! Well, as soon as I can, I'll try to reply to--to--uh--well--... Happy belated Valentine's day! Cheers, Lee :-) Lee, I am glad you had a safe and fun trip. I was really planning on getting in touch with you and hopefully meeting you as you passed through but my dad died a few weeks ago and I have been having a tough time. (I guess you can tell that I have not been very active on this or the main site lately). Welcome home moonmyyst --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 18 01:44:53 2005 From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:44:53 -0000 Subject: Answering my own question (was Re: What are Muesli flakes like?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" wrote: > > According to a conversion cart I found here, > http://www.cafecreosote.com/Reference/equivalents.php3 > There is 113.4 grams of butter in one stick. A stick and a half gets > you up to 170 grams, so I suppose about 9 tablespoons of butter would > get me to my destination. Divide that by the amount of calories in > my Muesli flakes, add my age plus the number of children I have... > > ;) imamommy > My favourite conversion site, http://www.onlineconversion.com/, which BTW is highly recommended, says about 1,1 stick of butter and 4,4 ounces. This recipe sounds yummy - did it circulate on the list and I missed it or would you like to share? Alshain, putting muesli on tomorrow's shopping list and checking amounts of butter and honey in a fridge which looks as disorganised as Viggo Mortensen's living room From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 18 03:20:44 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:20:44 -0000 Subject: Crunchy Mucnhy Honey Cakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "alshainofthenorth" wrote: This recipe sounds yummy - did it circulate on the list and I > missed it or would you like to share? > > Alshain, putting muesli on tomorrow's shopping list and checking > amounts of butter and honey in a fridge which looks as disorganised > as Viggo Mortensen's living room imamommy: The Wiggles Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes (copied from http://www.thewiggles.com.au/faq/honeycakes.html) Ingredients: 3 cups muesli flakes 1/2 cup sugar 1 cup self-raising flour 1 cup coconut 125 grams butter 2 teaspoons honey 3 tablespoons milk Method: Combine muesli flakes, sugar, coconut and sifted flour in a bowl and mix well. Heat butter, honey and milk. Pour over dry ingredients and mix well. Roll into balls the size of walnuts and place on a greased baking tray. Bake in a pre-heated oven at 160 - 180 degrees C (300 - 350 degrees F) for 15 - 20 mins or until golden brown. Cool on trays. imamommy: Let me tell you, we checked out "Yummy, Yummy" from the library last week, and started getting cravings for Fruit Salad, Hot Potatoes, and even Cold Spaghetti, in addition to the Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes. I hope there are other parents out there who have subliminally started planning meals based on children's entertainment! imamommy who filks "Me and My Viggo" to a song off of a Care Bears CD From lavaluvn at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 03:40:24 2005 From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (lavaluvn) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:40:24 -0000 Subject: - fellow parents of young Potter fans out there - THANKS! In-Reply-To: <191.39256213.2f460d8e@aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for their advice. Vivamus, I tried your suggestion and summarized the graveyard scene up to the duel. I think that helped avoid some of the trauma. Entropy - I wish I had read your advice because I think I should have warned her about Cedric's death. She was very upset about that- she had been very excited that Harry and Cedric were going to win the Cup together. And I kept choking up at the scene with Cedric, Lily and James. She's always been pretty sensitive, particularly to scary parts of movies (like I am!), but insisted that she could handle it, and overall not much has bothered her in the books. We actually took her to see the COS film when it first came out - she was around 4 - and we had to take her out because she was too scared. And I don't mean the spiders or basilisk, she was terrified of the Dursleys. But she saw the third film at a friend's home and loved it and has since watched all of them many times (though we still have to skip over the scary parts. For a long time we weren't even allowed to say the word "werewolf"). I've decided that we won't be reading OOTP just yet, though she still wants to. Maybe we can do our own bedtime story fan fiction! And when her reading improves enough she can start reading the books herself. Up until the end of GOF, I really loved reading the books aloud. I tend to read too quickly and skim, so even though I've read the first several books countless times, it was a very difference experience reading word for word. Thanks again everyone. Andromeda From chnc1024 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 04:36:07 2005 From: chnc1024 at AOL.COM (chnc1024 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:36:07 EST Subject: Cookie story and recipe Message-ID: <158.4ac66a17.2f46cab7@aol.com> Chancie: I had a friend who sent this to me, and I thought it was quite funny. We aren't exactly how true the story is, but it makes the recipe more interesting! She said she tried the recipe, and it was very good so enjoy! ************************************************************** A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't know already, is a very expensive store; i.e., they sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt for $50.00. Let's let them have it! THIS IS A TRUE STORY! My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas, and we decided to have a small dessert. Because both of us are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the"Neiman-Marcus cookie." It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe, and the waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not, but you can buy the recipe." Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty-it's a great deal!" I agreed to that, and told her to just add it to my tab. Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement, and the Neiman-Marcus charge was $285.00! I looked again, and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was outrageous! I called Neiman's Accounting Department and told them the waitress said it was "two fifty", which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the phrase. Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my money because, according to them, "What the waitress told you is not our problem. You have already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not refund your money at this point." I explained to the Accounting Department lady the criminal statutes which govern fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to report them to the Better Business Bureau and the Texas Attorney General's office for engaging in fraud. I was basically told, "Do what you want. Don't bother thinking of how you can get even, and don't bother trying to get any of your money back." I just said, Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going to have $250 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account has a $250 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, perhaps you should have thought of that before you ripped me off!" and slammed down the phone. So here it is! Please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can possibly think of. I paid $250 for this, and I don't want Neiman-Marcus to EVER make another penny off of this recipe! NEIMAN-MARCUS COOKIES (Recipe may be halved) 2 cups butter 24 oz. chocolate chips 4 cups flour 2 cups brown sugar 2 tsp. soda 1 tsp. salt 2 cups sugar 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) 5 cups blended oatmeal 4 eggs 2 tsp. baking powder 2 tsp. vanilla 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) Measure oatmeal, and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla, mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add Chocolate chips, Hershey Bar, and nuts. Roll into balls, and place Two inches apart on at cookie sheet Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies. PLEASE READ THE RECIPE AND SEND IT TO EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS! THIS IS REALLY TERRIFIC!! Even if the people on your e-mail list don't eat sweets send it to them and ask them to pass it on. Let's make sure we get $250.00 worth. Enjoy the cookies, they are good.... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kkersey at swbell.net Fri Feb 18 05:22:29 2005 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:22:29 -0000 Subject: Cookie story and recipe In-Reply-To: <158.4ac66a17.2f46cab7@aol.com> Message-ID: The story is an old urban legend... http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/cookie.asp ... but the cookies are pretty good, anyway. :-) I remember my sister emailing this to me back in the eighties but back then it was Mrs. Fields, not Neiman-Marcus. Karen From kkersey at swbell.net Fri Feb 18 05:28:53 2005 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:28:53 -0000 Subject: What are Muesli flakes like? In-Reply-To: <014a01c51526$62f34da0$0301000a@DJZCB631> Message-ID: OK, I just had to jump on the Muesli thread, it being one of my favorite foods... My sister lived for a short while in Sachseln, Switzerland, famous to Muesli fans everywhere as the home of the Familia company. :-) According to her, the proper way of preparing Muesli is to soak it in plain yogurt for at least half an hour (and preferably overnight) and to then add lots of fresh fruit - finely chopped apples are practically mandatory. The consistancy should be somewhat pourable. Even though the Familia box suggests using milk, that is just plain yucky, IMO. Something in the yogurt must "cook" those raw oats somehow, while milk just makes it all gooey. This, by the way is for the "authentic" style of Muesli, a.k.a. Birchner Muesli, which is basically raw oats mixed with dried fruits and nuts. The crispy-flakey stuff that is so readily available - marketed under names like "Mueslix" - is not the same thing at all. If you soak the crispy flakes, they become a soggy mess. Those cereals that have *both* the crispy flakes *and* the uncooked oats (Familia makes some of them) leave me baffled I suspect that the "muesli flakes" referred to in the Wiggles recipe are a standard crunchy sugar-coated flake breakfast cereal, not the uncooked-rolled oats kind of muesli. But that's just a guess. Karen, who has now in one day written two posts in separate threads about oat-containing foods. Hmmmm. From n2fgc at arrl.net Fri Feb 18 07:08:30 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:08:30 -0500 Subject: Intro and Inquiry Message-ID: [Sabrina asked]: My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about reading what is known as a "childrens" book? [Lee]: Absolutely not! Personally, I prefer them to many "Adult" books. Being rather conservative, I sometimes find so-called adult books hard to read because of language or certain graphic descriptions, etc. In fact, I have been trying to read a Diana Gaboldin book, "Outlander," and am having a horrible time with it. The story could be good, but there's too much language and graphic sexual description that, for me, detracts most vigorously from my enjoyment of the story. So, yes, I do read more "kids" and young-readers books. I've lately been sharing with Art all the great books I remember growing up and, you know, even as an adult, I love them still. Now, that's the mark of a good book, IMHO! Cheers, Lee :-) (Still trying desperately to catch up on a month-high pile of e-mail.) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 18 09:13:37 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:13:37 -0000 Subject: Books for under 18s for over 18s.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > [Sabrina asked]: > My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about reading > what is known as a "childrens" book? > Sabrina Hi there! I was very self conscious about buyingn the first HP initially, and thought I was taking a big step backwards - but then I figured "What's the problem, it's only escapism anyway!". I found the HP series went from being very much a 'younger' book to far too far the other way and became a thoroughly joyless experience, which is how I stumbled across my absolute favourite book, The Odessa Stone. The first thing I saw in that was a couple of pages of child-like drawings, and thought I'd chosen the wrong kind of book, but I liked the idea of it and gave it a go. Even as an adult, it helped me deal with losing my mother when I was 11, because the lead character deals with the same issue in so many similar ways to me. It was the most involving and enjoyable escape for me, and I cried, laughed (it is genuinely funny!) and I loved the characters - especially Avalon, a fairy who I'm convinced is always around somewhere! I hope that last part didn't sound mad. If you read it, you'll know what I mean. It also allowed me to rediscover ABBA, which can only be a good thing. These days books for kids aren't always written for kids and some books get the balance so right. I just wish I'd known about it earlier. Sandra (and Avalon!) From cwood at tattersallpub.com Fri Feb 18 17:22:28 2005 From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:22:28 -0000 Subject: Books for under 18s for over 18s.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I got a tremendous hoot out of the "Artemis Fowl" series by Eoin Colfer. There's a new one out now, or is about to be soon. The humor reminds me of the best Disney animations that are geared toward kids but include subtle gags that only the adults get, so that it's an enjoyable experience for all ages. The stories aren't driven so much by the title character, who is an evil teenage genius, as it is by the fantasy characters, especially an elfish police detective named Holly Short and her organization, LEPRecon (Lower Elements Patrol Reconnaisance). It's like the "Dragnet" detectives working in the fairy world. I'm not giving up on the HP series, even if it is turning darker and less small-child-friendly. I don't think it was ever intended for children younger than "Young Adult," which technically is about age 8 through secondary school. Certainly it is no darker or scarier than a lot of the old-school fairy tales those of my generation grew up on. Ms. Tattersall, who will not inflict OotP on the 7-year-old grandchild, not because it's too scary, but because it's too long and slow. > > [Sabrina asked]: > > My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about reading > > what is known as a "childrens" book? > > Sabrina > > > Hi there! I was very self conscious about buyingn the first HP initially, and > thought I was taking a big step backwards - but then I figured "What's the > problem, it's only escapism anyway!". I found the HP series went from being > very much a 'younger' book to far too far the other way and became a > thoroughly joyless experience, which is how I stumbled across my absolute > favourite book, The Odessa Stone. The first thing I saw in that was a couple > of pages of child-like drawings, and thought I'd chosen the wrong kind of > book, but I liked the idea of it and gave it a go. Even as an adult, it helped me > deal with losing my mother when I was 11, because the lead character deals > with the same issue in so many similar ways to me. It was the most involving > and enjoyable escape for me, and I cried, laughed (it is genuinely funny!) and > I loved the characters - especially Avalon, a fairy who I'm convinced is always > around somewhere! I hope that last part didn't sound mad. If you read it, > you'll know what I mean. It also allowed me to rediscover ABBA, which can > only be a good thing. These days books for kids aren't always written for kids > and some books get the balance so right. I just wish I'd known about it earlier. > > Sandra (and Avalon!) From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 18:30:55 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:30:55 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry Message-ID: [Sabrina asked]: >My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about >reading what is known as a "childrens" book? I'm never reluctant to read any kind of book and find myself enjoying Dr. Seuss a lot more than my kids do. Please continue with any book recommendations, whether for adults or kids. I can't wait to find The Odessa Stone. One of my favorite fantasy books of all time is called The Wolf King. It's long out of print and I can't remember who wrote it, but I still have my copy from when I was twelve. I plan to dig it out and read it to my daughter soon. I think it was written for young adults, rather like HP. On an adult level, I still love the Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny and The Coldfire Trilogy by C. S. Friedman. And David Eddings and Katherine Kurtz. Nicky Joe From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Fri Feb 18 20:28:52 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:28:52 -0000 Subject: Birthday greetings Message-ID: ***decorates the room with streamers and balloons and puts a cake on the table*** It's birthday greeting time again! Today's greetings go out to Amanda Jayne. Greetings can be sent to the List or to amandajgrundy at hotmail.com Happy birthday, Amanda Jayne! Dizzy Elf :) (aka Mary Ann) From sopraniste at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 21:17:21 2005 From: sopraniste at yahoo.com (sopraniste) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:17:21 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)" wrote: > [Sabrina asked]: > My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about reading > what is known as a "childrens" book? No, no, no, no, NO!!! Kids' books are so much fun, why would anyone be reluctant? Don't you remember how much fun it was to have Mom read you a story when you were little? Well, the books haven't gotten any less fun just because you got older! They're even alright read just to yourself, although I always prefer to find someone who doesn't mind listening when I read them aloud. I've read all the HPs aloud to both my boyfriend and my big sister. I've also taken several University-level English courses on children's literature, and I'm in the middle of one right now. We're currently looking at Treasure Island, Edith Nesbit's The Story of the Amulet is next, and I can't help wondering if anyone on the list knows it? I had never encountered it prior to the course, although most of the reading list are books I at least knew of, if I hadn't necessarily read them before. The others are: Wind in the Willows Winnie-the-Pooh Charlotte's Web Jacob Two-Two Meets the Hooded Fang (Canadian content!) Maria Holub From sopraniste at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 21:21:43 2005 From: sopraniste at yahoo.com (sopraniste) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:21:43 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And here I go, responding to my own message, because I wanted to mention a few more related things.... I've recently discovered a German children's author available in translation through The Chicken House (how's THAT for a children's publisher's name!) Her name is Cornelia Funke, and the only books currently available in Canada are The Thief Lord, Inkheart, and Dragon Rider. They are not a series. Each stands alone, and I have only actually finished Inkheart, but I would HIGHLY reccommend it! It deals with the power of stories, and particularly with the MAGIC of reading aloud! Maria Holub... again. From kcawte at ntlworld.com Fri Feb 18 22:28:57 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:28:57 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Intro and Inquiry References: Message-ID: <42166C29.000001.00504@KATHRYN> Maria Holub - I've also taken several University-level English courses on children's literature, and I'm in the middle of one right now. We're currently looking at Treasure Island, Edith Nesbit's The Story of the Amulet is next, and I can't help wondering if anyone on the list knows it? I had never encountered it prior to the course, although most of the reading list are books I at least knew of, if I hadn't necessarily read them before. The others are: Wind in the Willows Winnie-the-Pooh Charlotte's Web Jacob Two-Two Meets the Hooded Fang (Canadian content!) Now me (K) The Story of the Amulet - isn't that the sequel (possibly prequel, it's been a while since I read them) to Five Children and It, with the Psammead? If so it's delightful. The BBC did a TV adaptation of I think both but possibly just Five Children a couple of years ago. The muppet-like Psammead is fabulous. You should see if you can get hold of it. It was one of those Sunday teatime/weekday 5pm 'children's' dramas they used to do a lot of - like the Narnia Chronicles and the Box of Delights. The were all supposedly aimed at pre-teens but I swear there were more adults enraptured by them than kids. K [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bunniqula at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 02:30:31 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Bunniqula Mail) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 02:30:31 -0000 Subject: Recs for swollen feet remedies? Message-ID: My feet have gradually 'puffed up' (not wider) over a year and a half. I didn't notice how badly until I tried wearing my pair of Doc Martens and couldn't get my feet inside! =:-o I've always had poor blood circulation and a family history of diabetes (and cancer and stroke and I've had chest pains since I was a teenager), which some have said can cause swollen feet. However, at age twenty-six, I'm quite disappointed about the status of my feet. They don't hurt but... Ugh! Regardless of it being not recommended for folk such as myself, I'm thinking about arch sleeves/wraps and I'm curious if anyone has recs on favorite brands or places to buy or some other suggestions? Massaging/rubbing my feet is one thing I'll have to start doing. I have one of those 'adjustable' beds but haven't used the lift feature in some time (helps with blood circulation but killer on the back). Dina From PerditaGranger at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 03:04:39 2005 From: PerditaGranger at gmail.com (Perdita Granger) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:04:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 02:30:31 -0000, Bunniqula Mail wrote: > > My feet have gradually 'puffed up' (not wider) over a year and a half. > I've always had poor > blood circulation and a family history of diabetes (and cancer and > stroke and I've had chest pains since I was a teenager), which some > have said can cause swollen feet. I'd really suggest you talk to your doctor about it. We can suggest things that might help this symptom, but there's probably some root *cause* for the peripheral edema, and it's much, much better to treat the actual disease condition than to mess around with the symptoms and ignore a possibly serious problem while it gets worse. *hugs* Gotta take care of yourself, hun! -Hermione's Sister You don't have to be crazy to work here. We'll train you. From lavaluvn at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 09:40:39 2005 From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:40:39 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > [Sabrina asked]: > >My inquiry to you all is....was anyone (over 18) reluctant about > >reading what is known as a "childrens" book? > Oh yes. I remember reading newspaper reports about the Harry Potter craze, but never paid much attention, even though I've always enjoyed reading fantasy novels. Too many photos of 8-year-olds in wizard hats, I guess. Then sometime after GOF came out, both my mother and my (70-year-old!) mother-in-law sent me the books, saying I'd love them. I certainly did. It also inspired me to go out and buy several of those other well-loved books I'd always checked out of the library as a child and hadn't read in years. Narnia, MCCaffrey's Dragon books, Susan Cooper, Madeline L'engle, David Eddings. I've enjoyed rereading all of them and look forward to sharing those with the kids as well as Harry & co. - Andromeda From bunniqula at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 09:45:57 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Bunniqula Mail) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:45:57 -0000 Subject: Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Perdita Granger > I'd really suggest you talk to your doctor about it. What doctor? {g} Haven't been to one in over a decade. I can't afford one and can't afford medical insurance... Not to mention my new job doesn't do discounted insurance either since it only has four employees outside the family, which has millions from business property leasing to cover their own family insurance, and I'm not allowed overtime. So, it's gotta be inexpensive 'home remedies' for now. Dina From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 19 09:49:30 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:49:30 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "xcpublishing" wrote: > Please continue with any book > recommendations, whether for adults or kids. I can't wait to find > The Odessa Stone. On an adult level, I still > love the Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny and The Coldfire > Trilogy by C. S. Friedman. And David Eddings and Katherine Kurtz. > > Nicky Joe Hi Nicky Joe, I'll have a look for the Chronicles Of Amber and the Coldfire trilogies, because I've never heard of them - and recommendations are always the best way to discover something new, I find, so thanks for mentioning them. If you do read The Odessa Stone (and I hope you do!) it'd be nice to read what you make of it, because I love talking about it, and there aren't really any forums for doing so - other than the occasional unofficial site, like kylie.com where a few of us have been having a good old chin wag since Xmas! One thing to watch out for is that if you buy a copy of Odessa then do ask for the bookmark - there are official ones for the book, and I missed out for a while! I now have more than I know what to do with.... anyway, if you're undecided about it, do take a look at the amazon.co.uk site to see what other people think, or the book's website at step-through.com - they're very friendly and have already replied to three questions I've emailed! Happy reading! Sandra. From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 19 09:58:22 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:58:22 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sopraniste" wrote: > > And here I go, responding to my own message, because I wanted to > mention a few more related things.... > > Maria Holub... again. Thanks Maria, I wrote down all your recommendations and agree so much with what you said! As for me, I only recently discovered Alice In Wonderland, about 20 years after I should have, and it opened up a whole world of the most wonderful stories! I've since bought The Secret Garden, The Borrowers, Winnie The Pooh (anything!) and also The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe. I feel rather annoyed that I missed out on all those as a child, but that's life! I'm making up for it now. Can I recommend a title to you? I did for Nicky Joe, and I'm sure you'll love it to, The Odessa Stone by C Chambers. That author also wrote a first-love adventure called The Guardian Of Time, but Odessa is my favourite - it has a fairy (Avalon) in it who turns a lonely, obsessive girl's life upside down and completely around! I loved it so much. Sandra (putting on another ABBA cd!!) From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 19 10:15:23 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:15:23 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry Andrmd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Andromeda" wrote: I've enjoyed rereading all of them and look forward to > sharing those with the kids as well as Harry & co. > - Andromeda Hi Andromeda, thanks for mentioning those author's names - they were mainly new to me, so I'm going to have a look on amazon for what they've written, and VERY likely add to my groaning book shelves! I'm sure the entire wall will give way one day. The only names I could recommend to you in return is: C Chambers, who wrote The Odessa Stone (fave book), Caroline Stevermer who wrote A College Of Magics (also very good and imaginative), and (at a push) Kim Harrison, although her stuff is a weak in places. So maybe not her, after all. Sandra From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Sat Feb 19 14:41:16 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:41:16 -0000 Subject: Very special Birthday greetings Message-ID: I'd like you all to join me and raise a glass of butterbeer to the memory of John Kusalavage MD, otherwise known as Haggridd, as he would have celebrated his birthday today. As you may know, John, an Oldbie on HPfGU, passed away recently. He was controversial at times but a great person to know both on-and offlist and was a truly great Filker. The HP world is an emptier place without him. Here's to you, John! Dizzy Elf (aka Mary Ann) From bhobbs36 at verizon.net Sat Feb 19 14:45:38 2005 From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:45:38 -0000 Subject: Very special Birthday greetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sleep well, dear friend. From plungy116 at aol.com Sat Feb 19 14:48:29 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:48:29 -0000 Subject: Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Bunniqula Mail" wrote: > > My feet have gradually 'puffed up' (not wider) over a year and a half. I'm curious if anyone has recs > on favorite brands or places to buy or some other suggestions? Dina Hi, have you tried Shiatsu or acupuncture/acupressure? I have a Shiatsu qualification, and it sounds to me like you could benefit from some work on your bladder meridian, and some lymph work. Also upwards stroking could help to distribute the extra fluid away from your feet, and getting them above your heart whenever you can. HTH sarah xx From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 19 16:13:18 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:13:18 -0600 Subject: swollen feet Message-ID: <0a7d01c5169d$eccc84b0$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> When I feet swelled up I would wear adjustable sandals. It helped them quite a lot. Of course my feet were swelling up due to the pregnancy, but I thought it might help anyhow. From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 16:35:24 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:35:24 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: <42166C29.000001.00504@KATHRYN> Message-ID: > The Story of the Amulet - isn't that the sequel (possibly prequel, it's been > a while since I read them) to Five Children and It, with the Psammead? If so > it's delightful. The BBC did a TV adaptation of I think both but possibly > just Five Children a couple of years ago. The muppet-like Psammead is > fabulous. You should see if you can get hold of it. It was one of those > Sunday teatime/weekday 5pm 'children's' dramas they used to do a lot of - > like the Narnia Chronicles and the Box of Delights. The were all supposedly > aimed at pre-teens but I swear there were more adults enraptured by them > than kids. > > K > Hi all. The BBC definately did Five Children and It. That was my first introduction to it when I was younger. Everyone in my family sat down to watch it together. I remember it well. Also a new film version has just been made. I doubt it's available on video/dvd yet. It's been on at the local cinema here, but I haven't had chance to go see it. I admit though, I mainly wanted to see it because most of it, if not all, was filmed on the Isle Of Man (which is home for me) and I wanted to see how many of my friends are in it! (Loads of them get work as extras). Scenery would be worth seeing, but then I am bias! :) Becky From s_ings at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 17:49:00 2005 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:49:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Very special Birthday greetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050219174900.43075.qmail@web41121.mail.yahoo.com> Mary Ann, the Birthday Elf: > > I'd like you all to join me and raise a glass of > butterbeer to the > memory of John Kusalavage MD, otherwise known as > Haggridd, as he > would have celebrated his birthday today. As you > may know, John, an > Oldbie on HPfGU, passed away recently. He was > controversial at > times but a great person to know both on-and offlist > and was a truly > great Filker. The HP world is an emptier place > without him. > > Here's to you, John! > Sheryll: *raises glass of butterbeer* HPfGU is a sadder, emptier place without you, John! Sheryll ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 19:43:43 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:43:43 -0000 Subject: Books -Artemis Fowl Sample In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MsTattersall" wrote: > > I got a tremendous hoot out of the "Artemis Fowl" series by Eoin > Colfer. There's a new one out now, or is about to be soon. bboyminn: For those who don't know, Amazon.com website has several sample pages from each of the Artemis Fowl books for those who would like to see what the writing is like. Go to Amazon, search for Artemis Fowl, then select the book you are interested in. Near the top, next to the title, you will see a very short description of the book followed by the word '...more', click '...more' and that will take you to the sample pages. Here is a direct link to the first book... http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0786817070/ref=sib_fs_top/102-6214451-0406565?%5Fencoding=UTF8&p=S00D&checkSum=o78gFbzvZwPJ6jtP51XlFaxLU30Hyanf38eKbBWUzVI%3D#reader-link Hopefully it will work. I've only read these samples, and although, more child-like than the HP books, the still seem to be a very captivating read. steve/bboyminn From miss_megan at bigpond.com Sat Feb 19 21:25:14 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:25:14 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dina At various times I have had oedema in my feet and hands. Unfortunately I think the raising of the end of the bed is the way to go - it doesn't have to be very much higher, just enough to get your feet over your heart so should not be too sore on your back? Also Birkenstocks make some shoes that are ok for work and adjustable. If money is an issue there may be a 'generic' seller who makes copies. I have a friend who has oedema after all her lymph glands where removed. She uses the TED stockings. They come from the chemist and are recommended for people who are flying and want to avoid deep vein thrombosis so are readily available in AU. I don't know if you can get them in the states. What ever you get I understand it needs to cover *all* of your hands/feet, not just the limb/part of your feet or hands As money is an issue you might like to contact one of the local alternative health colleges and see if they have a clinic for their students to practise on real live people. The clinics are sometimes free or otherwise cheap. Good luck storm -----Original Message----- From: Bunniqula Mail [mailto:bunniqula at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 1:31 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recs for swollen feet remedies? My feet have gradually 'puffed up' (not wider) over a year and a half. I didn't notice how badly until I tried wearing my pair of Doc Martens and couldn't get my feet inside! =:-o I've always had poor blood circulation and a family history of diabetes (and cancer and stroke and I've had chest pains since I was a teenager), which some have said can cause swollen feet. However, at age twenty-six, I'm quite disappointed about the status of my feet. They don't hurt but... Ugh! Regardless of it being not recommended for folk such as myself, I'm thinking about arch sleeves/wraps and I'm curious if anyone has recs on favorite brands or places to buy or some other suggestions? Massaging/rubbing my feet is one thing I'll have to start doing. I have one of those 'adjustable' beds but haven't used the lift feature in some time (helps with blood circulation but killer on the back). Dina -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.0.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 From saitaina at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 19 21:31:15 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:31:15 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Very special Birthday greetings References: <20050219174900.43075.qmail@web41121.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01c516ca$583377a0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> To John! Though the veils may part us, we will see each other again, when it's time to go Home. Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 21:55:58 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:55:58 -0000 Subject: Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dina!! You should really really see a doctor, what you are describing looks like a heart faillure, which means your heart isn't working as it is supposed to, which make your kidneys acumulate extra water and sodium in an attempt to compensate, but it isn't a good compesation, it's a vicious circle and your heart function will decline even more. Some clinics (family clinics) offer free services for people who can't afforrd it, or you could enroll in medicaid or other goverment organisation. Any heart problem requires medicines and therapy in order to prevent even more sirious complications. Of course there are many other causes of swollen feet, but it's always better to make sure it isn't a sirious cause. As for the sympomathic relief of swollen feet, try putting them above your heart level (really high), it should work, at least a little. But again PLEASE see a doctor, you probably need a prescription. Take care Juli From miss_megan at bigpond.com Sat Feb 19 22:58:54 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:58:54 +1100 Subject: FW: Everything I need to know about life I learned from Harry Potter Message-ID: Hi everyone, this is a repeat of an old post. It wasn't my post to start with but I liked it, remembered it, and could do with a laugh this morning so I hope you all like it storm, who's possum joey died on Saturday, has killed one bird this morning and has been putting off going out to kill another by searching Yahoo!mort for this post. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jktaylor" wrote: My daughter and I made up t-shirts to wear while waiting to buy OoP. I thought I'd share... Everything I need to know about life I learned from Harry Potter -Three heads are better than one -Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself -Never trust something that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain -Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus! -Humans are apt to choose precisely the things that are worst for them -It does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live -Never insult a hippogriff -It is our choices, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities -Pixies are more trouble than you might think -Those who take, but do not earn, must pay most dearly in their turn -Love is the most powerful magic -Chocolate is wonderfully medicinal -Don't look for trouble; trouble is already looking for you -If you make a better rat than a human, don't boast -Truth is a beautiful and terrible thing -People can be a bit stupid about their pets -There are some experiences you can't share without ending up friends -Don't let the Muggles get you down! -There are all kinds of courage -House-elves are people too -Never try to get a straight answer out of a centaur -Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak! -One can never have enough socks -A good show of moral fiber is often mistaken for just being thick -Sometimes you must choose between what is right, and what is easy -The forest hides many secrets -Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/2005 From bunniqula at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 23:12:33 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Bunniqula Mail) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:12:33 -0000 Subject: Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the various suggestions! I'll look into them. It seems a soft wrap, massaging, and elevating the feet has helped a little over the days, but I'd like to apply this during working hours as well. As for seeing a doctor, I'm not about to keel over (cranky folk take longer to kill), so I'm still okay for now. {g} Dina From sopraniste at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 23:52:05 2005 From: sopraniste at yahoo.com (sopraniste) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:52:05 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry In-Reply-To: <42166C29.000001.00504@KATHRYN> Message-ID: > The Story of the Amulet - isn't that the sequel (possibly prequel, > it's been a while since I read them) to Five Children and It, with > the Psammead? Yes, Five Children and It preceded The Story of the Amulet, and is actually referred to repeatedly in The Story of the Amulet, as is The Phoenix and the Carpet, all of which are still available in print... I checked this afternoon while I was book-shopping. Maria From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 01:29:28 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:29:28 -0000 Subject: Owl Post Message-ID: I don't know if this is of any interest to anyone, but my mum told me today that it is now possible to send 'owl post'. (This is the same mum that is anti-Harry Potter. Go figure!) It's a service being offered by our local post office, but you don't have to be local to use it. Apparently, the idea is to encourage young children to write real letters (and thereby improving their sales I would guess!). It costs ?10, but there are other things available. The web site says 'Your letters may be sent to your friends or yourself via the Owl Post Office each letter will receive a special Owl Post Cancellation.' I'm thinking it may be of interest to someone, so here's the address www.iompostoffice.com Becky From n2fgc at arrl.net Sun Feb 20 02:24:55 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:24:55 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Owl Post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [bleckybecs wrote]: | I don't know if this is of any interest to anyone, but my mum told | me today that it is now possible to send 'owl post'. (This is the | same mum that is anti-Harry Potter. Go figure!) [Lee]: Ah--nothing worse than a witch in denial... :-)) Now, this would be really cool if something like that were available in the US as well. What a cool way to send a fellow Potter fan a Christmas or Birthday card or just a plain Friendship note. :-) Lee approves! (For whatever that's worth...one knut?) :-) Well, I'm off to get a snack of some kind...low carb, unfortunately, as I gained close to 15 most-unwanted pounds on my vacation! And here I thought my jeans had just shrunk... :-) Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From catlady at wicca.net Sun Feb 20 02:34:43 2005 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 02:34:43 -0000 Subject: Sorting Hat quizzes Message-ID: This is the best one I've ever met: http://icehouse.7dragons.net/# (scroll to bottom, click on Get Sorted) Here are some other that I encountered while searching unsuccessfully for the second best one I remember: http://sortingquiz.chronosdesign.com/ http://www.spenecial.com/birdsofafeather/sortingquiz.htm http://www.sorting-hat.com/sorthatq.htm http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=the_sorting_hat http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hogwartshouses http://asit.riverdark.net/sorting.html http://www.boomspeed.com/roguefaerie/sortinghatquiz.html http://www.the-happy-house.com/hp/sorting.html http://www.quizilla.com/users/chasepigeons07/quizzes/A%20Sorting%20Hat%20Quiz%20(read%20memo%20if%20you'd%20like%20to)/ http://www.personalitylab.org/tests/ccq_hogwarts.htm http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/HarryPotter/Docs/Quiz-House.html From bleckybecs at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 03:14:52 2005 From: bleckybecs at yahoo.com (bleckybecs) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:14:52 -0000 Subject: Owl Post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: bleckybecs wrote > | I don't know if this is of any interest to anyone, but my mum told > | me today that it is now possible to send 'owl post'. (This is the > | same mum that is anti-Harry Potter. Go figure!) > > [Lee]: > Ah--nothing worse than a witch in denial... :-)) > > Now, this would be really cool if something like that were available in the > US as well. What a cool way to send a fellow Potter fan a Christmas or > Birthday card or just a plain Friendship note. :-) Lee approves! (For > whatever that's worth...one knut?) :-) > > Cheers, > > Lee :-) > > Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm > I may not care to lead; | N2FGC > Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at a... (or) > I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o... > Walk beside me, and be my friend. oooh. sorry. Should have mentioned, I think you can get it in the US, from the same web site (especially as the web site provides a currency converter). It works because you buy the special writing paper/envelopes, whatever, and they're posted *via* the Isle Of Man and our lovely post office people. It's long winded, but I think it can be done! Of course, you'd have to check it out to be sure. But seeing as how Manx stamps are extremely collectable world wide (I'm told!), I think they post world wide. (LOTR fans, there are LOTR stamps available too, if you're into that kind of thing). Becky From bree4378 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 00:26:49 2005 From: bree4378 at yahoo.com (Sabrina) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:26:49 -0000 Subject: Books for under 18s for over 18s.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I looked up Odessa Stone on amazon.com and nothing came up. Can you tell me who the author is? Sandra wrote: "I found the HP series went from being very much a 'younger' book to far too far the other way and became a thoroughly joyless experience, which is how I stumbled across my absolute favourite book, The Odessa Stone." Does this mean you do not like the HP books? Or is it just Order of the Phoenix that you found long and slow? Or is it that you found it too long and slow as a book to read to your grandchild? I love the HP series, but I did find OoP a bit disappointing after Goblet of Fire which is my favorite book in the series, thus far. I am hoping that book 6 will make up for it. Are you planning to give book 6 a chance or have you given up on the series? "bree4378" From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 20 05:02:23 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 20 Feb 2005 05:02:23 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1108875743.1084.64432.m7@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 20, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From bunniqula at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 05:07:27 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Bunniqula Mail) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:07:27 -0000 Subject: Owl Post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bleckybecs" wrote: > told!), I think they post world wide. (LOTR fans, there are LOTR > stamps available too, if you're into that kind of thing). I'm reminded of ordering some LOTR stuff from New Zealand and it was sent with LOTR stamps. {g} When I ordered Harry Potter stuff from Taiwan, the gal attached a sheet of Chinese HP:POA stamps. Though, I've seen more 'creative' shipping. Dina From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 20 10:06:37 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:06:37 -0000 Subject: Sab:Books for under 18s for over 18s.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sabrina" wrote: > > I looked up Odessa Stone on amazon.com and nothing came up. Can you > tell me who the author is? > Does this mean you do not like the HP books? Or is it just Order of > the Phoenix that you found long and slow? Or is it that you found it > too long and slow as a book to read to your grandchild? I love the > HP series, but I did find OoP a bit disappointing after Goblet of > Fire which is my favorite book in the series, thus far. I am hoping > that book 6 will make up for it. Are you planning to give book 6 a > chance or have you given up on the series? > > "bree4378" Hi Sabrina, I think you need to look at the amazon.co.uk site instead - maybe it's not out in America? Depending on where you are in the States, you might love the other book, The Guardian Of Time. Quite a lot of that happens in America, for example, New York in the summer of 1927, Arizona when it joined the union, and on board The America in the 1950s. I really enjoyed that - how I would love to have been a flapper! And the memories of awkward first love... ahhh, they all came back.... :0) Oh, and the author is C C Chambers. The Harry Potter series is okay, but I just thought the OoP was too grim, slow and unfriendly - there didn't seem to be any warmth between the characters, and that's important to me. That's why I became so lost in The Odessa Stone - there's so much friendship and love between Linda and Avalon, and they bring out each others strengths through their own vulnerability - without ever quite realising that they're doing so. It's hard to explain, but it reached me. I won't give up on the HP series, but I will if JKR throws out another one full of shouting, bad tempers and adults who are flawed to the point of being plain stupid (Dumbledore was unbelievable in the OoP). I'm going to take the next one out of the library first, before buying it. And if she starts messing about with the Time Turner again... oh, don't get me started.... Happy reading, Sabrina! Sandra (who doesn't have any grandchildren, or even children yet! One day, though!) From libtax10375 at earthlink.net Sun Feb 20 14:31:57 2005 From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:31:57 -0500 Subject: Seeing Harry as My Son Message-ID: <009a01c51758$ef935be0$025079a5@leeannlaptop> I suppose I should post this on the movie list, but here goes. I am watching POA, for the umteenth time, the scene where Harry rides Buckbeak for the first time. As he takes off, my stomach did a kind of swooshing lurch and I find myself teary eyed. I don't know how many times I have seen that scene and read it in the book and had the same reaction. It just dawned on my why I react that way. I have fallen into the trap that JKR and director Couran have set for me; I realize this. But I see this boy who has been repressed his entire life literaly flying free. I truly feel happiness for him as I would for my own child. I am the mother of 3 boys, so I guess I relate to them better. I see my own boys struggle with emotion. Anger and happiness are the easy ones, but there are so many in between. I try to teach them that they are all ok. No one can tell you how to feel, it's how you act on those feelings that is important. There is Harry, never allowed to express feelings or opinions while at Privit drive. Now at his age at Hogwarts has almost no boudaries. My heart is with this boy. I just wanted to share my moment of mushy motherly love. Thanks for listenting. Leeann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 14:47:29 2005 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (xcpublishing) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:47:29 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry! Message-ID: Sandra: >I'll have a look for the Chronicles Of Amber and the Coldfire >trilogies, because >I've never heard of them - and recommendations are always the best way >to discover something new, I find, so thanks for mentioning them. Thanks, Sanra, I'll definitely grab The Odessa Stone and let you know when I've finished it. You'll LOVE the Amber series, I think it's five books that start with Nine Princes in Amber, but mine is a two- book set because they aren't nine zillion pages like the HP series! Sometimes I still think I can get to Amber if I just concentrate... I love everything by Katherine Kurtz, although I have to prepare myself for the "weeping my eyes out" portions that come with each of her later books. Her earliest books are hard to get through, but if you manage it, you'll be rewarded with her later stuff. Pretty heavy fantasy. I counter her by rereading my Myth Adventures books by Robert Asprin. Thank goodness for humor! Nicky Joe From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 20 16:02:09 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 20 Feb 2005 16:02:09 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1108915329.12.13024.m24@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 20, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 20 17:55:19 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:55:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Reminder - Weekly Chat References: <1108915329.12.13024.m24@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <019e01c51775$57fe8e40$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Reminder - Weekly Chat > > > We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. > > Weekly Chat > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2005 > Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) > > Hi, everyone! > > Just a reminder: > > Drop in to Sunday chat! > > Start time: > 11 am Pacific > 12 pm Mountain > 1 pm Central > 2 pm Eastern > 7 pm UK time > > Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as > long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo > chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. > > Hope to see you there! > Can I chat using Yahoo Instant Messenger? I just downloaded it a few days ago but haven't used it yet. Jane From hermionesmum at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 18:35:14 2005 From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:35:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Reminder - Weekly Chat In-Reply-To: <019e01c51775$57fe8e40$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> Message-ID: <20050220183514.61852.qmail@web61003.mail.yahoo.com> Jane Jordan wrote: > Can I chat using Yahoo Instant Messenger? I just downloaded it a few days ago but haven't used it yet. Jane Hi Jane, Yes you can! Just click on the "chat" button on YM and select a room to start from. Once you're in type /join hp:1 and you'll be portkeyed over to us. Don't worry if you run into any strange people getting in. We're a friendly lot and chat is one of the highlights of my week:) looking forward to meeting you Sam (hermionesmum) ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From juanitatighan at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 20 18:48:04 2005 From: juanitatighan at frontiernet.net (Jane Jordan) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:48:04 -0600 Subject: help with Yahoo Mesenger Message-ID: <023301c5177c$b6740ed0$0200a8c0@domain.invalid> Perhps soeone that uses JaWS can help me here. I can't get any menus to read so I can't find chat to join. Please email me at juanitatighan at frontiernet.net From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 20 19:12:02 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:12:02 -0000 Subject: Intro and Inquiry! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: wrote: > I love everything by Katherine Kurtz, although I have to prepare > myself for the "weeping my eyes out" portions that come with each of > her later books. Her earliest books are hard to get through, but if > you manage it, you'll be rewarded with her later stuff. Pretty heavy > fantasy. I counter her by rereading my Myth Adventures books by > Robert Asprin. Thank goodness for humor! > > Nicky Joe Thanks Nicky, I'm off to amazon right now for a good look. I have a notepad at the ready to write down which to get, and the urge to fill a basket! Sandra (ready to say goodbye to a few pounds!) From yahoo at nannynick.co.uk Sun Feb 20 18:08:41 2005 From: yahoo at nannynick.co.uk (nightnanny34) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:08:41 -0000 Subject: New Member Intro Message-ID: Hello HPfGU members! My name is Nick and I am not really a new member - I was here back in year 2000 (I've been reading some of my posts in the HpforGrownups archive). I live in England, on the Surrey/Berkshire border, not far from Bracknell. Today I was going through my video collection trying to see what was on all the unmarked tapes - you probably know what that's like! I found the Omnibus interview with Joanne and it got me thinking about HPforGrownups. Thus, I am back again on the group - and I've also been finding out about Accio 2005, so with luck will get to meet some of you in person there (after all, Reading is nice and close to me). Just thought it would be polite to post a short intro. Nick. From PerditaGranger at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 19:37:02 2005 From: PerditaGranger at gmail.com (Perdita Granger) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:37:02 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Recs for swollen feet remedies? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:12:33 -0000, Bunniqula Mail wrote: > > Thanks for the various suggestions! I'll look into them. It seems a > soft wrap, massaging, and elevating the feet has helped a little over > the days, but I'd like to apply this during working hours as well. As > for seeing a doctor, I'm not about to keel over (cranky folk take > longer to kill), so I'm still okay for now. {g} Juli already mentioned heart failure...the longer that goes untreated, the more the heart loses contractility, and we're talking *permanent* change here, not just something that will recover as soon as you go on meds. The other major differential here is that it's due to diabetes. That's also one that can cause permanent long-term damage, moreso the longer it goes untreated, including stuff like nerve damage and cataracts. That said, one of the best ways to prevent or treat early diabetes, albeit the one most people hate the most to hear, is the dreaded "diet and exercise." It's about the only thing that's actually *proven* to work, again and again, consistently. If your situation isn't likely to change in the near future, and you're not likely to be able to see a doctor in the next few months, then please keep that in mind. *hugs* Try checking out "The South Beach Diet" from the library, that does a good job explaining what's good and bad to eat. When my sister had edema in her feet, she found swimming was great exercise, so if you can find a pool you can get access to, I'd recommend that; if not, leg weights were her second choice. I've had two family members with that kind of problem, so if you'd like to discuss this more in email, feel free! I'm a vet so I'm good at interpreting technical medical stuff for friends and relations when they get into researching their conditions, too, even if I'm not allowed to diagnose or treat humans. ;-) Just let me know if I can help. -Hermione's Sister Art is not necessary, but it's indispensable. From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 20 19:51:37 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:51:37 -0000 Subject: New Member Intro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "nightnanny34" wrote: > Hello HPfGU members! > Just thought it would be polite to post a short intro. > > Nick. Hello Nick, and welcome back. I've only been a member for a few weeks, and find everyone's very friendly - but the HP For GrownUps site gets a bit too 'into' the books for my liking. So I prefer it here! Returning your hello, Sandra. From kelleythompson at gbronline.com Sun Feb 20 20:33:55 2005 From: kelleythompson at gbronline.com (Kelley) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:33:55 -0000 Subject: New Member Intro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, Nick-- > My name is Nick and I am not really a new member - I was here back > in year 2000 (I've been reading some of my posts in the > HpforGrownups archive). I live in England, on the > Surrey/Berkshire border, not far from Bracknell. Would you happen to have gone by the id of 'Baby Nick' back then? If so, many of us oldbies certainly remember you! Particularly the pics and reporting from you and Neil of one of JKR's 'train stops' (what was it called?) when GoF was released. My apologies if you're not the same Nick. Either way, welcome back! :-) --Kelley From sherriola at earthlink.net Sun Feb 20 20:46:33 2005 From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:46:33 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Intro and Inquiry! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c5178d$4400ae10$0400a8c0@pensive> Oh I love Katherine Kurtz. The books are tear jerkers, and they are violent. But they are great fantasies with wonderful characters that you can really believe in and love. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: sandra87b [mailto:sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:12 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Intro and Inquiry! wrote: > I love everything by Katherine Kurtz, although I have to prepare > myself for the "weeping my eyes out" portions that come with each of > her later books. Her earliest books are hard to get through, but if > you manage it, you'll be rewarded with her later stuff. Pretty heavy > fantasy. I counter her by rereading my Myth Adventures books by > Robert Asprin. Thank goodness for humor! > > Nicky Joe Thanks Nicky, I'm off to amazon right now for a good look. I have a notepad at the ready to write down which to get, and the urge to fill a basket! Sandra (ready to say goodbye to a few pounds!) ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links From bunniqula at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 05:09:15 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:09:15 -0000 Subject: Sidekick hacked - famous folks info goes public Message-ID: Some of y'all may have heard about http://www.infosecinstitute.com/blog/2005/02/secret-service-hacker-how-did-he-do-it.html Okay, I'm nosey and I took a peek at Paris Hilton's hacked address book, and among the other Hiltons/actors/singers/etc, I'm highly amused by her listing of 'Aid, Rite'. {chuckle} I've also seen the pics (clothed and naked). As much as this sounds bad, if any of the HP actors' private info goes public, I'd peek. I wouldn't dial any of the numbers but I'd be curious. Hm, though, I am curious about dialing Vin Diesel's phone number. {chuckle} Or email Lindsay Lohan about her performance as Hermione Granger. I shouldn't really find it amusing considering how these folk will have to change their contact info (who knows how often). Dina From bunniqula at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 06:02:34 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:02:34 -0000 Subject: Have lunch with him, you know you want to... Message-ID: http://www.eggwork.com/lunch/lunchpost.htm Not exactly worksafe... no R-rated nudity but there are adult themes. I was cracking up after watching this. Dina From bunniqula at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 06:46:37 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:46:37 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today Message-ID: I love my parents and let me recount the ways... I'm being dragged into their messy divorce *again*. Today, I have to be at court for a deposition and I'll have to miss time at work. >From when I was a kid and my stepmom showing me my mom's alimony checks to her saying she'd rather see all of my dad's money burn than for my mom to get a penny--I was younger than fourteen and upset at hearing the anger, so over a decade later I still remember. I never said any of this to my mom, but I always figured my worth was either calculated at how much of an expense I am or how much money I could make. {exasperated sigh} Some days, I wish they would've done both themselves and me a favour and had me aborted. Anyway, I'm willing to bet my dad's lawyer is dragging me into this because of the monetary assistance I do provide my mom from time to time. Over two decades and setting a legal precedence along the way, they're still going on about money: my mom wants to keep the alimony and my dad doesn't want to pay her any. I tell ya... Parents can drive you bonkers. Dina From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 21 09:04:36 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:04:36 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" wrote: > > I tell ya... Parents can drive you bonkers. > > Dina Hi Dina, That's so true, but keep your chin up - you're not alone! Sandra (who has plenty of reasons for loving the escapism found in books. Don't we all?) From n2fgc at arrl.net Mon Feb 21 18:11:54 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:11:54 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Dina L. wrote]: | From when I was a kid and my stepmom showing me my mom's alimony | checks to her saying she'd rather see all of my dad's money burn than | for my mom to get a penny--I was younger than fourteen and upset at | hearing the anger, so over a decade later I still remember. I never | said any of this to my mom, but I always figured my worth was either | calculated at how much of an expense I am or how much money I could | make. {exasperated sigh} [Lee]: I can understand you not wanting to mention it to your mom as a child, but, IMO, methinks you should put all the cards on the table now, alone with her, before the court date, and let her know in no uncertain terms how you feel. Write it out if you think that will help keep coherency. She may not respond as you might wish/hope, but it will sure make you feel better! Been there, done that. My relationship with my father was anything but wonderful, and I finally wrote a very long letter to him detailing how I felt and that I wanted to have some kind of relationship but needed his respect as an adult, etc. Suffice it to say that I never did get response to the letter, things didn't get better at all, but I did feel better for having done the writing. I felt that, at least, I had said all I wanted to say, and that was good for me, personally. [Dina continues]: | Anyway, I'm willing to | bet my dad's lawyer is dragging me into this because of the monetary | assistance I do provide my mom from time to time. [Lee]: Tough question here...and if you would rather respond off list, please feel free: Do you provide assistance to your mom because she *really* needs it and has *truly* no other alternative or because of the inner guilt that's been foisted upon you by the constant haggle over money? Do you provide assistance because you *want* to or because you feel you need to pay something back? I'm not trying to offend, but these are serious questions that, often, one is afraid to ask oneself. | [Dina]: | Over two decades and setting a legal precedence along the way, they're | still going on about money: my mom wants to keep the alimony and my | dad doesn't want to pay her any. | | I tell ya... Parents can drive you bonkers. [Lee]: :-) Yes, they can, if you let them. But their fight diesn't have to be yours. You have the choice to divorce yourself from it, if you want, and, painful as it might be, you may just have to increase your personal boundaries, my friend. It's not easy; there's gonna be hurt somewhere, but sometimes that's just the way it's gotta be. Hugs, and good luck!! Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From bunniqula at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 19:30:25 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:30:25 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1a27384005022111307aa11d0a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:11:54 -0500, (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) wrote: > Do you provide assistance to your mom because she *really* needs it and has > *truly* no other alternative or because of the inner guilt that's been I'm at work now but the deposition was filled with questions that I felt weren't really any lawyer's business... like who are my mom's friends (like I track them, not!) and who are my friends, name of my former supervisor, status of my banking accounts, where I went on vacation and how much it cost, what I spent my money on, why did my depression cause a break in my employment, why I don't drive a car (I've got the callouses on my feet to prove the mileage I've covered to get to stores and work), etc. And most of all why am I not supporting my mom more on *my* income since I have helped her out in the past. It's like I'm being cornered to deal with my failings, my mom's failings and now my dad's failings. Frankly, I feel crappy right now having my life placed under a microscope and recorded for legal posterity... and it's not even my divorce. {g} > foisted upon you by the constant haggle over money? Do you provide > assistance because you *want* to or because you feel you need to pay > something back? I'm not trying to offend, but these are serious questions > that, often, one is afraid to ask oneself. I'd rather keep my money. {g} However, she is my mom and she does need the monetary assistance. Bit of both guilt and need. Since I don't drive, for the times when 'hoofing it' and bumming rides off others doesn't work, she drives me [crazy]. So, it's 'scratch my back and I'll scratch yours'. Dina, who was waiting for the lawyer to ask my bra size at the rate of 'none of your business' questions From saitaina at frontiernet.net Mon Feb 21 19:36:54 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:36:54 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've been subpoenaed for court today References: <1a27384005022111307aa11d0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00f901c5184c$b3474260$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Dina wrote: Welcome to the fun world of "Why the hell are you asking?!" This is becoming more common, even outside law. I'm still amused over my doctor asking for specifics on why I couldn't be pregnant when I tried to get out of taking a preg test for my surgery, (my awnser left him dumbfounded, you would think a medical professional could do more then gape like a fish when you tell him you're A. Celibate for 9 yrs and B. a lesbian). So, Dina...what IS your bra size? *smirks* Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bunniqula at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 23:57:51 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:57:51 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: <00f901c5184c$b3474260$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" wrote: > dumbfounded, you would think a medical > professional could do more then gape > like a fish when you tell him you're A. > Celibate for 9 yrs and B. a lesbian). Hehe, mitosis... Reproducing via dividing. > So, Dina...what IS your bra size? > *smirks* Keep that up and I'll subject you to the worst of FF.net. ;-) This entry is titled 'Super Rich Harry & the mountain of pussy': http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstus/887.html Anyway, I'm reminded of asking the L&O actor, Chris Meloni, his bra size and his reply being 'all natural'. So, I'm going with my bra size is 'all natural'. Based on how Ryan Seacrest was asking the camera guy to zoom in on Chris' chest, I'm sized okay. {g} Dina From bunniqula at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 00:12:27 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:12:27 -0000 Subject: Can anybody fold their shirt? Message-ID: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/tshirtfold.html I've tried this and can't get it. Dina From joseph at kirtland.com Tue Feb 22 00:16:54 2005 From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:16:54 -0000 Subject: Can anybody fold their shirt? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: She must be one of the woman that folds the Haynes and BVDs we buy! That would be a neat skill to master. I've never been very good at folding shirts. Joe --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" wrote: > > http://www.big-boys.com/articles/tshirtfold.html > > I've tried this and can't get it. > > Dina From michel56 at earthlink.net Tue Feb 22 00:25:38 2005 From: michel56 at earthlink.net (Michele) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:25:38 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Can anybody fold their shirt? References: Message-ID: <00cd01c51875$093a8ec0$07736e18@valued1c3ed06e> Love this video. I had to watch it about 8 times, but finally got it. Of course, my shirt wasn't as neat as hers, but it did look decent. Thanks for this, Dina, it was fun. Frustrating, but fun... LOL. I doubt I can do it again, though, without watching the video 8 more times. ha! Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: Dina Lerret To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Can anybody fold their shirt? http://www.big-boys.com/articles/tshirtfold.html I've tried this and can't get it. Dina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 22 00:28:00 2005 From: slytherin_punk_pirate at yahoo.co.uk (wysiwyg) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: Sorting Hat quizzes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey cool, thanks for all the links! There were some really good ones on there, I still want to make one of my own though. Oh yeah, and I got 8 Slytherins, 3 Ravenclaws and 1 Gryffindor! Ah well... ~Wysiwyg --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) " wrote: > > This is the best one I've ever met: > http://icehouse.7dragons.net/# (scroll to bottom, click on Get Sorted) > > Here are some other that I encountered while searching unsuccessfully > for the second best one I remember: > > http://sortingquiz.chronosdesign.com/ > > http://www.spenecial.com/birdsofafeather/sortingquiz.htm > > http://www.sorting-hat.com/sorthatq.htm > > http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=the_sorting_hat > > http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=hogwartshouses > > http://asit.riverdark.net/sorting.html > > http://www.boomspeed.com/roguefaerie/sortinghatquiz.html > > http://www.the-happy-house.com/hp/sorting.html > > http://www.quizilla.com/users/chasepigeons07/quizzes/A%20Sorting% 20Hat%20Quiz%20(read%20memo%20if%20you'd%20like%20to)/ > > http://www.personalitylab.org/tests/ccq_hogwarts.htm > > http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/HarryPotter/Docs/Quiz-House. html From bunniqula at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 00:44:16 2005 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:44:16 -0000 Subject: Can anybody fold their shirt? In-Reply-To: <00cd01c51875$093a8ec0$07736e18@valued1c3ed06e> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michele" wrote: > I had to watch it about 8 times, but finally got it. I still haven't figured out mine. :-p --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" wrote: > I've never been very good at folding shirts. Me neither. When I go shopping for clothes, I'm one of these folk who opens up a nicely folded shirt to look at it in its entirety and size, then I *try* folding it back up (rolling the shirt up into a ball would look better than my folding), and then I try looking for *another* nicely folded shirt in the same size and style. If I don't find another one, I grab the 'mangled' one and open it up for hanging on the edge of the shopping cart/trolley. As for my own clothes, I've got a bunch of hangers for a reason. ;-) Dina From saitaina at frontiernet.net Tue Feb 22 00:52:36 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:52:36 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've been subpoenaed for court today References: Message-ID: <012701c51878$cd958ec0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Dina wrote: I'm a Gravitation fan, I've read it. What's your underwear size? *runs* Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 22 02:32:54 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:32:54 -0000 Subject: Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes Update Message-ID: Well, I made The Wiggle's recipe for Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes tonight for Family Night. They were really good! We all enjoyed them. The recipe only called for 2 teaspoons of honey, and being the red-blooded sugar-addicted Yankee I am, I upped it to 2 Tablespoons. This was a wise choice. After careful consideration of all your input about what Muesli flakes are like, and a peek at the price of getting real Muesli (yikes!) I decided to use quick-oats oatmeal. This worked rather well; of course, I'm not sure if it was what was originally intended by The Wiggles, but I think Captain Feathersword would have tried to steal my Honey Cakes, too. If you make the recipe, be sure to use the self-rising flour, and the coconut (there are more ingredients than are in the song; the complete recipe can be found here: http://www.thewiggles.com.au/faq/honeycakes.html). They are really very tasty. imamommy From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 22 02:36:31 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:36:31 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: >> Sandra (who has plenty of reasons for loving the escapism found in books. > Don't we all?) YES!!! I like to remind people who think I'm silly for being so big intoPotterverse and LOTR that it's cheaper than therapy. imamommy Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you think DD meant me? From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 22 02:58:27 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:58:27 -0000 Subject: Can anybody fold their shirt? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" wrote: > > http://www.big-boys.com/articles/tshirtfold.html > > I've tried this and can't get it. > > Dina That is cool! My DH and I got it after a couple tries. (Well ok, HE got it on the first try, the bum.) Thanks for the nifty video! imamommy From saitaina at frontiernet.net Tue Feb 22 02:56:20 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:20 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've been subpoenaed for court today References: Message-ID: <016501c5188a$16ab3680$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> imamommy wrote: Probably all of us. I'll admit as a child I was alone so much I created a whole fantasy world for myself where I had friend and all that. I 'lived' in it (baring trips to the real world for school and stuff) from the age of eight till...fifteen (hush, I knew it wasn't real but it was better then what I had). Without that world I probably would be a very different child...and I'm screwed up enough, thank you. And without that world, I never would have tested my imagination and became a writer. Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 22 08:45:14 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:45:14 -0000 Subject: Do dwell on dreams... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" > wrote: > >> Sandra (who has plenty of reasons for loving the escapism found in > books. Don't we all?) > > YES!!! > I like to remind people who think I'm silly for being so big > intoPotterverse and LOTR that it's cheaper than therapy. > imamommy > Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line > about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you > think DD meant me? Hello Imamommy, Dumbledore doesn't always get things right, and in OoP he's the reason it all goes wrong. I think his quote was used because Harry was spending too much time staring into an enchanted mirror. I prefer the quote from Aunt Agatha in The Guardian Of Time, when she's telling the young hero not to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders 24/7: "If you're never a child, how will you ever be an adult?". I think that gem applies through your whole life, at times. She's a fabulous 40-something character, very positive and unintimidateable (that may not be a real word, but it jolly well should be). TGoT is the sister book to my favourite one. Sandra (who's going to be making up words throughout the day now!) From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 22 16:10:36 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:10:36 -0000 Subject: Time Wasters, Waiting for HBP - Hapland Message-ID: This is a really, really cute mini game - everything depends on the sequence of what you do and you don't want to kill any of the stickmen! Just click on things (sometimes several times) and watch what happens! http://www.foon.co.uk/farcade/hapland/ Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** From shalimar07 at aol.com Tue Feb 22 18:48:06 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (mumweasley7) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:48:06 -0000 Subject: Do dwell on dreams... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: > > In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" > > wrote: > > >> Sandra (who has plenty of reasons for loving the escapism found in > > books. Don't we all?) > > > > YES!!! > > I like to remind people who think I'm silly for being so big > > intoPotterverse and LOTR that it's cheaper than therapy. > > imamommy > > Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line > > about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you > > think DD meant me? > > > Hello Imamommy, > > Dumbledore doesn't always get things right, and in OoP he's the reason it all > goes wrong. I think his quote was used because Harry was spending too > much time staring into an enchanted mirror. > I prefer the quote from Aunt Agatha in The Guardian Of Time, when she's > telling the young hero not to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders > 24/7: "If you're never a child, how will you ever be an adult?". I think that gem > applies through your whole life, at times. > She's a fabulous 40-something character, very positive and unintimidateable > (that may not be a real word, but it jolly well should be). TGoT is the sister > book to my favourite one. > > Sandra (who's going to be making up words throughout the day now!) Now I need to know where to get a copy of the book with Aunt Agatha. Shalimar From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Tue Feb 22 19:35:25 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:35:25 -0000 Subject: Do dwell on dreams... Shalimar. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sandra wrote: Hello Imamommy, Dumbledore doesn't always get things right, and in OoP he's the reason it all goes wrong. I think his quote was used because Harry was spending too much time staring into an enchanted mirror. I prefer the quote from Aunt Agatha in The Guardian Of Time, when she's telling the young hero not to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders 24/7: "If you're never a child, how will you ever be an adult?". I think that gem applies through your whole life, at times. She's a fabulous 40-something character, very positive and unintimidateable (that may not be a real word, but it jolly well should be). TGoT is the sister book to my favourite one. Sandra (who's going to be making up words throughout the day now!) -------------------------- > > Now I need to know where to get a copy of the book with Aunt Agatha. > Shalimar -------------------------- Hello Shalimar, You can get The Guardian Of Time (author is C C Chambers) anywhere, and if you look on www.amazon.co.uk you can see lots of reviews and probably get it cheaper. I loved it - it's full of funny, strong and very individual female characters, and I haven't seen that in too many stories - usually the guys have the world revolving around them, but not here. Harry Potter doesn't have very amusing / exciting female players, so to stumble across a book that really goes t town with them is such good find. Agatha oozes classy stylish cool, Naomi and Claudie are mad flappers, Feya is overloaded with caffeine all the time and Andie is a deaf girl who the lead character is in love with (first love, ahhhh!) and those are the ones who my friends laugh about. There's also a dictionary at the back of Flapper Talk, which is the reason I keep slipping into the habit of making long words out of existing words! Sandra (crossing her fingers that you do read it, because I'd love to be able to waffle about it!) From imamommy at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 23 07:03:47 2005 From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:03:47 -0000 Subject: Do dwell on dreams... Shalimar. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: Snip > There's also a dictionary at the back of Flapper Talk, which is the reason I > keep slipping into the habit of making long words out of existing words! > > Sandra (crossing her fingers that you do read it, because I'd love to be able > to waffle about it!) Ha! I just finished the Bridget Jones books, and it's going to take me three weeks to get the Brit slang and swearing out of my thoughts and speech. Hmmm. On other hand, keep cool Brit slang. Sound cultured. Or maybe just sound like bl**dy Madonna. See, there I go. And I've worked hard to not use swear words. imamommy From shalimar07 at aol.com Wed Feb 23 13:24:33 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:24:33 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Do dwell on dreams... Shalimar. Message-ID: <157.4b07062c.2f4dde11@aol.com> I have asked a friend on mine that lives in Banbury England to pick up the book for me. It doesn't appear to be available in the US. Since she can send it to me APO I won't be out much on the postage. Thanks for the reading suggestion. Shalimar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 23 13:37:34 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:37:34 -0000 Subject: Do dwell on dreams... Shalimar. In-Reply-To: <157.4b07062c.2f4dde11@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, shalimar07 at a... wrote: > I have asked a friend on mine that lives in Banbury England to pick up the > book for me. It doesn't appear to be available in the US. Since she can send it to me APO I won't be out much on the postage. > Thanks for the reading suggestion. > > Shalimar Hello Shalimar - I am so pleased about that! I didn't realise you were in America, but I do know you'll enjoy it because so much of it is set over there. On the kylie.com site I had a little topic going for a while, and it turns out a lot of the places and buildings mentioned (in 1927 New York) are all real and still around today, and the section set on board The America is also pretty acurate - it was a real ship! And some parts happen in Arizona as well, but it's never mentioned where abouts. There's a website www.step-through.com where you can read some interesting (and trivial) background about it. Sandra (who's now contemplating reading it yet again!) From madettebeau at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 14:25:45 2005 From: madettebeau at gmail.com (miasbo) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:25:45 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > imamommy > Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line > about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you > think DD meant me? I also feel a bit of guilt when reading that line! lol But I think DD's point is that it's not good to dwell on dreams to excess...a little dwelling is probably good for oneself, anyway! hehe =) Maddy From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Wed Feb 23 14:34:19 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:34:19 -0000 Subject: Time Wasters, Waiting for HBP - Hapland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried the link but I'm stil not sure what I'm supposed to do, all I get are a few things moving, but nothing really happens Juli --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" wrote: > > This is a really, really cute mini game - everything depends on the > sequence of what you do and you don't want to kill any of the > stickmen! Just click on things (sometimes several times) and watch > what happens! > > http://www.foon.co.uk/farcade/hapland/ > > Dudemom_2000 > > *****\(@@)/***** From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 23 15:04:05 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:04:05 -0000 Subject: I've been subpoenaed for court today /Maddy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "miasbo" wrote: > > imamommy > > Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line > > about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you think DD meant me? > I also feel a bit of guilt when reading that line! lol But I think > DD's point is that it's not good to dwell on dreams to excess...a > little dwelling is probably good for oneself, anyway! hehe > =) Maddy Hi Maddy, you couldn't be more right, and I love the kind of dreaming that books can give you. We all get by in life as best we can, and a bit of escapism here and there can only be a good thing - and fend of a nervous breakdown for a little longer! ha ha... Sandra (with cup of tea having a ten minute down-tools session) From bhobbs36 at verizon.net Wed Feb 23 15:17:39 2005 From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:17:39 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on dreams... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've decided Dumbledore trailed off and forgot a word... He meant to say: "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them." That's me, not dwelling on this dream, I live in it! *grin* From ajillity at direcway.com Wed Feb 23 16:56:40 2005 From: ajillity at direcway.com (Jill) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:56:40 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: > Thank you Belinda, that's nice of you. I was starting to feel neglected over it, > but the group is very entertaining. I was hoping people might come up with > their own off-centre suggestions for the next book, but there you go. I forgot > to mention that Mr & Mrs Dursley were going to appear in a fly-on- the-wall > series about dieting, springboarding Dudley into a short-lived career as a > Meatloaf looky-like. Makes perfect sense to me, and I won't be at all surprised > if it happens. > > Sandra. How about Percy becoming a contestant on The Apprentice? Or Lee Jordan lands an anchor job on SportsCenter? Jill From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 23 19:20:08 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:20:08 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on dreams... Belinda. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" wrote: > > I've decided Dumbledore trailed off and forgot a word... > He meant to say: > "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them." > > That's me, not dwelling on this dream, I live in it! *grin* Sandra writes: Hi Belinda, A word to the wise, and don't tell anyone this, but the FULL quote is: "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them. Now, who's for a pizza?" Sandra (who's just off for an anchovie one! Honestly, they're nice.) From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 23 19:26:46 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:26:46 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas / Jill. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jill wrote: > > How about Percy becoming a contestant on The Apprentice? Or Lee > Jordan lands an anchor job on SportsCenter? > > Jill Hi Jill, my grin-muscles were triggered on those. I should have mentioned that Draco Malfoy spends the entire year at Brat Camp, and Prof Trelawney moves to a new job which is crying out for her talent - head of The Weather Channel. Sandra (feeling pleased someone answered) From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Feb 23 19:44:43 2005 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:44:43 -0000 Subject: The Secret Life of Walter Mitty - A man who dreams. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" wrote: > > imamommy > Who feels a slight squirm of guilt whenever she reads the line > about "it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." Do you > think DD meant me? bboyminn: I suspect you have all heard of 'Walter Mitty' who is the hallmark, the very essense, of dreams without life. His story first appeared in 1939. The story was a mere 2100 words long, but the character struck a chord and "Walter Mitty" has become popular shorthand for any timid soul who dreams of a more dashing life. The Secret Life of Walter Mitty was made into a 1947 film with Danny Kaye as Mitty; a proposed remake, to be directed by Steven Spielberg and starring Jim Carrey, has been discussed but never released. A thoroughly enjoyable read, and very short. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/6821/thurber.html From irishwynch at aol.com Wed Feb 23 20:20:37 2005 From: irishwynch at aol.com (irishwynch at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:20:37 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've been subpoenaed for court today Message-ID: <6b.3f8f4a24.2f4e3f95@aol.com> In a message dated 2/21/05 6:59:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, saitaina at frontiernet.net writes: Probably all of us. OMG! I have that quote written on my board here at work that I face and read everyday. Especially when it seems like things are out of control and I wish for better times. Marla [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ajillity at direcway.com Wed Feb 23 20:56:26 2005 From: ajillity at direcway.com (Jill) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:56:26 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: > Hi Jill, my grin-muscles were triggered on those. I should have mentioned that > Draco Malfoy spends the entire year at Brat Camp, and Prof Trelawney > moves to a new job which is crying out for her talent - head of The Weather > Channel. > > Sandra (feeling pleased someone answered) :-) And I suppose Mundungus could end up on an episode of COPS...and Luna could take over as editor of the National Enquirer... Jill From sydenmill at msn.com Wed Feb 23 22:03:21 2005 From: sydenmill at msn.com (bohcoo) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:03:21 -0000 Subject: Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" wrote: the complete recipe can be > found here: http://www.thewiggles.com.au/faq/honeycakes.html). They > are really very tasty. > > imamommy Bohcoo replies: Thank you, imamommy, for the link. I like the recipe but had no idea whatsoever what the "wiggles" are -- so, I opened their home page to read about them. Word of caution to everyone else who visits the website, if you have a weak heart. After the home page opens and you begin reading, a loud, quite cheerfully enthusiastic greeting blasts forth, enough to knock you out of your chair. Nearly gave me a heart attack. Yikes. Just thought I'd warn everyone else. :) Grins, Bohcoo From sydenmill at msn.com Wed Feb 23 22:19:02 2005 From: sydenmill at msn.com (bohcoo) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:19:02 -0000 Subject: The Secret Life of Walter Mitty - A man who dreams. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > >> > bboyminn: > > I suspect you have all heard of 'Walter Mitty' who is the hallmark, > the very essense, of dreams without life. His story first appeared in > 1939. The story was a mere 2100 words long, but the character struck a > chord and "Walter Mitty" has become popular shorthand for any timid > soul who dreams of a more dashing life. > > The Secret Life of Walter Mitty was made into a 1947 film with Danny > Kaye as Mitty; a proposed remake, to be directed by Steven Spielberg > and starring Jim Carrey, has been discussed but never released. > > A thoroughly enjoyable read, and very short. > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/6821/thurber.html Bohcoo, who couldn't resist mentioning: When I was in school, mumble-years ago, whenever anyone would have one too many drinks and make a spectacle of himself or herself, we would chalk it up to the "Walter Mitty cocktails." Thanks for reminding me about that, Steve, and for the laugh! Bohcoo From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 24 00:19:42 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:19:42 -0000 Subject: Time Wasters, Waiting for HBP - Hapland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" wrote: > > I tried the link but I'm stil not sure what I'm supposed to do, all > I get are a few things moving, but nothing really happens > Juli > *****\(@@)/***** You have to do everything in a certain sequence... Here is the spoiler. I suggest you only look at it where you are stuck... I figured my way through most of it by trial and error. The fun part is shooting the stickman up to the hill....Try not to kill any stickmen! Spoiler! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - open the window on the left and turn the red arrow around. * * - Open the hatch on the right, click the yellow arrow to get a stickman out. * * - fire one round from the cannon in the low position to drop the bridge down. * * - fire the second round up at the bell and click the spike thing so it goes the other way JUST after the round hits the bell. * * - Fire the next two rounds at the bridge, but click on the bridge so it bounces and knocks them in the air so they explode without causing damage. * * - click the lightbulb by the stickman at the bottom to get him to smash it. * * - Fire the last round in the low position so it ricochets into the cave, and the bottom stickman picks it up and opens the door with it. * * - Now click the stickman by the cannon so he gets in it, move the cannon barrel up, and click the yellow arrow to get another guy out, get him to fire the other stickman up at the bell. * * - the stickman by the bell will move the tower over if you click him. then click the spike thing so it goes the other way. Now keep clicking the bell till it falls. = no more land mine (hee hee). * * * - click the door in the bottom left so the guy comes out and JUST as he goes in the door on the right, click the bottom dude. Then click and open the window on the right - the guy that went in the upper door will slam the window and the concrete will fall on the roto-dog that is chasing the bottom guy, but the falling concrete stops it. (timing is everything here) have fun.... I also have found another site with some flash games on it that were fun.... http://www.rit.edu/~jhb4598/jblog/ I have played the Veridian Room but ended up searching for a walkthrough to complete it! *****\(@@)/***** Dudemom_2000 who is actively pursuing time-wasting until HBP appears! From hpfans at mamakelsy.net Thu Feb 24 02:35:21 2005 From: hpfans at mamakelsy.net (Kelsy) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:35:21 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Can anybody fold their shirt? References: Message-ID: <016501c51a19$7cd537e0$6400a8c0@kelsy> > Dina: > When I go shopping for clothes, I'm one of these folk who opens up a > nicely folded shirt to look at it in its entirety and size, then I > *try* folding it back up (rolling the shirt up into a ball would look > better than my folding), and then I try looking for *another* nicely > folded shirt in the same size and style. If I don't find another one, > I grab the 'mangled' one and open it up for hanging on the edge of the > shopping cart/trolley. As for my own clothes, I've got a bunch of > hangers for a reason. ;-) Worked in retail for a while many many years ago. I have sales personnel who grimance when I unfold a shirt to get a good look. Should see the shocked look when I fold it back up all nice and neatly and return it to the pile. lol Nopw at home I cram everything into drawers or use hangers. Just don't have the time with a 17 month old and a 28 month old running around. Kelsy From hpfans at mamakelsy.net Thu Feb 24 02:53:41 2005 From: hpfans at mamakelsy.net (Kelsy) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:53:41 -0500 Subject: Crunchy Munchy Honey Cakes Update References: Message-ID: <01e401c51a1c$0cab8160$6400a8c0@kelsy> > Bohcoo replies: > Thank you, imamommy, for the link. I like the recipe but had no idea > whatsoever what the "wiggles" are -- so, I opened their home page to > read about them. > > Word of caution to everyone else who visits the website, if you have > a weak heart. After the home page opens and you begin reading, a > loud, quite cheerfully enthusiastic greeting blasts forth, enough to > knock you out of your chair. That is Murray talking on the sight I think. I love the Wiggles. It is because of them that my dd who is "special needs" has started making sounds. She loves them and tries to "sing" along with all their songs. Her favorite is Captain FeatherSword. She loves to "sing" along with anything he is in scene for. She also loves ducks and Five little ducks gets her dancing. They taught her Head Shoulders Knees and Toes and she can now point ot her eyes ears mouth and nose. Kelsy From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 24 09:12:20 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:12:20 -0000 Subject: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jill" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" > wrote: > > Hi Jill, my grin-muscles were triggered on those. I should have > mentioned that > > Draco Malfoy spends the entire year at Brat Camp, and Prof > Trelawney > > moves to a new job which is crying out for her talent - head of The > Weather > > Channel. > > > > Sandra (feeling pleased someone answered) > > :-) > > And I suppose Mundungus could end up on an episode of COPS...and Luna > could take over as editor of the National Enquirer... > > Jill It will happen, because it's SO obvious! Sandra (chortling in to her morning frothy coffee!) From plungy116 at aol.com Thu Feb 24 09:58:38 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:58:38 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on dreams... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" wrote: > > I've decided Dumbledore trailed off and forgot a word... > > He meant to say: > "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them." > > That's me, not dwelling on this dream, I live in it! *grin* Exactly "You've got to have a dream, If you don't have a dream How you gonna make your dreams come true?" Sarah xx From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 24 11:00:11 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:00:11 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on dreams... the big O. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" > wrote: > > I've decided Dumbledore trailed off and forgot a word... > > He meant to say: > > "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them." > > That's me, not dwelling on this dream, I live in it! *grin* > > Exactly > "You've got to have a dream, > If you don't have a dream > How you gonna make your dreams come true?" > > Sarah xx Hi Sarah, And Roy Orbison did one of my favourite songs called "In Dreams". Ooh, gone all wobbly... Sandra (heading for the cd player) From jlnbtr at yahoo.com Sat Feb 26 01:20:59 2005 From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:20:59 -0000 Subject: Time Wasters, Waiting for HBP - Hapland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" wrote: > > > > I tried the link but I'm stil not sure what I'm supposed to do, > all > > I get are a few things moving, but nothing really happens > > Juli > > > > You have to do everything in a certain sequence... Here is the > spoiler. I suggest you only look at it where you are stuck... I > figured my way through most of it by trial and error. The fun part > is shooting the stickman up to the hill....Try not to kill any > stickmen! > Thanks!!! The spoilers really helped, It made me laugh so hard. Juli From saitaina at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 26 09:40:58 2005 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:40:58 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] LiveJournal Down??? References: Message-ID: <001901c51be7$47355500$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> It's working for myself. Saitaina **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." "If you're going to sing in the shower, don't start with a song that begins with 'help'." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From miss_megan at bigpond.com Sat Feb 26 12:05:17 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:05:17 +1100 Subject: lesbian princess In-Reply-To: <001901c51be7$47355500$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Message-ID: Saitaina said **** "You may now kiss the. . . groom in a dress." It occurred to me this morning, listening to the endless news about Princess Mary of Denmark, formally of Tasmania, that the one thing I could never be, as a lesbian, is a princess. I mean unless one was already a hereditary princess. There must be plenty of lesbians who are or have been born into princesshood. But marrying into it .. ah that will never happen. storm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 25/02/2005 From foxmoth at qnet.com Sat Feb 26 14:13:17 2005 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:13:17 -0000 Subject: lesbian princess In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" wrote: . There must be plenty of lesbians who are or have been born into princesshood. But marrying into it .. ah that will never happen.< Since titled folk often married to cement alliances between fortunes and/or families rather than individuals, I suspect it happened often enough. Pippin From marycloudt at yahoo.ca Sat Feb 26 19:33:02 2005 From: marycloudt at yahoo.ca (Mary Ann) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:33:02 -0000 Subject: Belated birthday wishes (again) Message-ID: Gah, Dizzy Elf has missed some birthdays again, and she will dutifully slam her ears in the oven door as soon as she finishes sending this message. Thursday's birthday celebrants were Marlo (dzny72 at yahoo.com) and Michelle (harry_potter_uk2002uk at yahoo.co.uk), and yesterday's celebrants were Sally (sallycinnamon78 at hotmail.com) and Finwitch (finwitch at yahoo.com) Wishing you lots of belated birthday wishes, guys. Sorry about that! Dizzy Elf (aka Mary Ann, who's a glutton for punishment at heart) From n2fgc at arrl.net Sat Feb 26 19:34:22 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:34:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR's Fountain Of Ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hmm--this is cool! Let's put Hermione doing the show, "How Do They Do That?" You know...that show where various things are shown and the question is asked, "How do they do that?" Or, perhaps, one of those "In Search Of" shows. :-) Ron will become a flight instructor for British Airways, specializing in planes that look like flying cars. Harry will end up in some National Security position, aided by recorded broadcasts of Hermione's shows and transported from place to place by Ron's pilots. Professor Sprout will, no doubt, tackle single-handed the agricultural reclamation of wood and field, while Hagrid teams up with Crocodile Steve for some wonderful adventures, both of them relying on the predictions coming from Trelawney at The Weather Channel. Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca Sat Feb 26 19:37:21 2005 From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:37:21 -0000 Subject: info. on book 6 Message-ID: Luckdragon: Mugglenet has posted info. from a source saying book 6 will reveal "something huge about Lily", "Why Dumbledore trusts Snape", "Harry has a romance". We've all been hoping for this, so this is great news to find out we won't have to wait for book 7 for all our answers. 5 months to go! From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 26 21:40:26 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:40:26 -0000 Subject: info. on book 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" wrote: > > Luckdragon: > Mugglenet has posted info. from a source saying book 6 will > reveal "something huge about Lily", "Why Dumbledore trusts > Snape", "Harry has a romance". > We've all been hoping for this, so this is great news to find out we won't have to wait for book 7 for all our answers. > 5 months to go! *****\(@@)/***** I am sooooo glad there will finally be something about Lily! Certainly it will be interesting to see which theory on Snape pans out with this. I can't wait to see how Harry deals with romance. Hopefully he will be a bit wiser in his dealings with the ladies! *****\(@@)/***** Dudemom_2000 From kcawte at ntlworld.com Sat Feb 26 21:51:09 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:51:09 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: info. on book 6 References: Message-ID: <4220EF4D.000003.01736@KATHRYN> Dudemom_2000 *****\(@@)/***** I am sooooo glad there will finally be something about Lily! Certainly it will be interesting to see which theory on Snape pans out with this. I can't wait to see how Harry deals with romance. Hopefully he will be a bit wiser in his dealings with the ladies! *****\(@@)/***** "Harry has a romance" and "a great year for Harry". huh, well going on past performance I don't imagine both these things can be true! Besides JKR is setting things up for book 7, which presumably is the great showdown, so I sincerely doubt that overall Harry will be able to look back at the end of book 6 and say it's been a great year. He may well have some great moments but I have to say that the only thing that will stop HBP being as bad a year for him as OoP is the fact that he's out of family to lose! (well family he care about anyway) K From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca Sun Feb 27 03:07:51 2005 From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:07:51 -0000 Subject: Something huge about Lily! (was: Re: info. on book 6) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" wrote: > > Luckdragon: > Mugglenet has posted info. from a source saying book 6 will > reveal "something huge about Lily", "Why Dumbledore trusts > Snape", "Harry has a romance". > We've all been hoping for this, so this is great news to find out we > won't have to wait for book 7 for all our answers. > 5 months to go! Luckdragon again: So any guesses on what it will be? A) significance of her green eyes. B) family background info. C) career. D) how she and James ended up together. E) why LV was initially going to spare her. F) what charm, if any, she cast to save Harry. G) what was her relationship to Lupin, Snape, LV. H) her relationship with Petunia. I) other Me; I'm greedy. I want to know it all. From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 27 05:02:29 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 27 Feb 2005 05:02:29 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1109480549.22.65240.m3@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 27, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From sylviablundell at aol.com Sun Feb 27 14:10:45 2005 From: sylviablundell at aol.com (ladyramkin2001) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:10:45 -0000 Subject: Jane Austen's "mothers" Message-ID: I am posting on this list, as the subject seems to be wandering way off H.P. Betsy came out with the sweeping statement "Jane Austen was all about unhealthy relationships...Some of Austen's mothers are downright villainous". To which Alla replied "Molly has plenty positive qualities....while Jane Austen's "mother" characters have none" Agreed certainly that Mrs. Benett (Pride and Prejudice) and Lady Bertram and Mrs. Price (Mansfield Park) don't exactly shine as mothers, but villainous!! And what about Mrs. Dashwood, who so bravely and cheerfully buckles down to losing home and fortune and whose whole care is for her daughters' happiness (though she might have been a bit stricter with Marianne) Mrs. Morland in Northanger Abbey is a lovely mother, kind and understanding, and allowing Catherine considerable liberty without being in any way neglectful. Emma hasn't got a mother, but she had her governess, Miss Taylor, who filled the place of a mother and was kind and loving. Emma couldn't have been an easy child to deal with. Anne Elliot's mother is also dead, but she sounds nice and too good for her silly husband To finish this little rant: Some of the Juvenalia may be described as "novellas" but the six main novels are just that: Real grown-uo novels. Sylvia .. From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 27 14:56:01 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:56:01 -0000 Subject: info. on book 6 - Kathryn. In-Reply-To: <4220EF4D.000003.01736@KATHRYN> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn" wrote: "Harry has a romance" and "a great year for Harry". huh, well going on past performance I don't imagine both these things can be true! Besides JKR is setting things up for book 7, which presumably is the great showdown, so I sincerely doubt that overall Harry will be able to look back at the end of book 6 and say it's been a great year. He may well have some great moments but I have to say that the only thing that will stop HBP being as bad a year for him as OoP is the fact that he's out of family to lose! (well family he care about anyway) > > K You're entirely right, I agree. All that will happen in book 6 is that we'll get closer to the showdown that is book 7. Mind you, I suspect whoever Harry has a romance with in 6 will die horribly in 7. While I'm in the mood for some Trelawney-esque predicting, Dumbledore will spend all of book 6 in a lovely retirement bungalow near the coast, emerging to save Harry's bacon and then die, and that way Hogwarts (therefore the entire wizarding world, apparently) will be up for grabs in 7. Although the hype has begun for 6, I'm expecting a bit of a filler, at best. Sandra (not on the edge of her seat, and very definitely nagging the www.step-through.com website for a sequel to The Odessa Stone) From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Feb 27 16:02:19 2005 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 27 Feb 2005 16:02:19 -0000 Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat Message-ID: <1109520139.32.77680.m4@yahoogroups.com> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event. Weekly Chat Date: Sunday, February 27, 2005 Time: 11:00AM CST (GMT-06:00) Hi, everyone! Just a reminder: Drop in to Sunday chat! Start time: 11 am Pacific 12 pm Mountain 1 pm Central 2 pm Eastern 7 pm UK time Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long as people want it to last. To get there, go into any Yahoo chat room and type: /join HP:1 then click 'enter'. Hope to see you there! From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com Sun Feb 27 20:29:40 2005 From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:29:40 -0000 Subject: info. on book 6 - Kathryn. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kathryn wrote: > "Harry has a romance" and "a great year for Harry". huh, well > going on past performance I don't imagine both these things can > be true! Besides JKR is setting things up for book 7, which > presumably is the great showdown, so I sincerely doubt that > overall Harry will be able to look back at the end of book 6 and > say it's been a great year. He may well have some great > moments but I have to say that the only thing that will stop HBP > being as bad a year for him as OoP is the fact that he's out of > family to lose! (well family he care about anyway) > > > > K > > You're entirely right, I agree. All that will happen in book 6 is > that we'll get closer to the showdown that is book 7. Mind you, I > suspect whoever Harry has a romance with in 6 will die horribly > in 7. While I'm in the mood for some Trelawney-esque > predicting, Dumbledore will spend all of book 6 in a lovely > retirement bungalow near the coast, emerging to save Harry's > bacon and then die, and that way Hogwarts (therefore the entire > wizarding world, apparently) will be up for grabs in 7. > Although the hype has begun for 6, I'm expecting a bit of a > filler, at best. > > Sandra (not on the edge of her seat, and very definitely nagging > the www.step-through.com website for a sequel to The Odessa > Stone) I'm a bit confused (read: suspicious) to be honest. J.K. Rowling interview transcript, The Connection (WBUR Radio), 12 October, 1999: "Now the important thing about Harry's mother, the really, really significant thing, you're going to find out in 2 parts. You'll find out a lot more about her in Book 5, or you'll find out something very significant about her in Book 5, then you'll find out something incredibly important about her in Book 7." And I'm sure she's said somewhere that the good bits about Snape are in book 7, too (though I can't find a quote). So I'm rather hesitant to believe that Harry has a romance, or that it will be his best year yet. It's going to be another horrible year, as far as I can see. I'm expecting more revelations about Voldemort in book 6, the circumstances of his birth, perhaps. More about the Hogwarts founders, more about Pettigrew and Malfoy... not *filler* as such - I'm fairly certain it's going to end with something huge unresolved, and leave us howling for book 7. I almost don't want to read HBP now - maybe I'll wait until 7 is out so I won't have to go through the agony all over again... Ha. No chance. Dungrollin From HMaffioli at cox.net Sun Feb 27 21:07:35 2005 From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:07:35 -0800 Subject: Alan Rickman's next movie... Message-ID: <00a301c51d10$5c56c5c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Anyone interested in seeing AR as a terminally depressed robot should love the trailer to my favorite book series out side of HP, The Hitchhiker's Guide. The new trailer has a couple of cute bits of him as Marvin (the misnamed) Paranoid Android. http://www.ugo.com/ ENJOY!! Heather [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sun Feb 27 21:25:44 2005 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:25:44 -0000 Subject: "Live Long and Prosper" - Who Said It First? Message-ID: A mind-boggling conspiracy theory (hint - who was President during Roswell?) http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10351.html - CMC From kcawte at ntlworld.com Sun Feb 27 22:17:51 2005 From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:17:51 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Oscars Message-ID: <4222470F.000003.01904@KATHRYN> Does anyone know of a good website that will be providing real time commentary on what is happening at the Oscars? I normally watch them on TV but as far as I can tell British Television isn't covering them this year except in a report in tomorrow's Film 2005. The news keeps mentioning a billion people worldwide will tune in to the show - but apparently not us Brits unless I'm seriously missing something, and it's not even like they're going to have to change their prime time schedule to show it since it starts at about 2am. It's *possible* one of the specialist premium movie channels is covering it since I don't have them but usually the BBC and/or one of the cable channels show them. K [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From catlady at wicca.net Sun Feb 27 23:38:14 2005 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:38:14 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on pizzas .... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: << "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live them. Now, who's for a pizza?" Sandra (who's just off for an anchovie one! Honestly, they're nice.) >> Nice if you like to eat solid lumps of salt.... Twenty-six years ago ... no, it was only twenty-five ... I had a co-worker who liked to make pizzas (with everything) at home (from scratch) and bring them to share at lunchtime. He had observed that almost all people remove the anchovies, so he kneaded the anchovies into the dough of the crust so that people couldn't avoid them. From tonks_op at yahoo.com Mon Feb 28 01:55:22 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:55:22 -0000 Subject: Free Magic Wand Message-ID: Order of Merlin.com is giving a free magic wand with each order of $35.00. Their website is www.orderofmerlin.com From n2fgc at arrl.net Mon Feb 28 03:25:52 2005 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:25:52 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Free Magic Wand In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tonks informs us]: | Order of Merlin.com is giving a free magic wand with each order of | $35.00. | | Their website is www.orderofmerlin.com [Lee]: What are they made of? I have one of the Alivans wands and they are lovely! Nicely-crafted wood in construction, they come with a beautiful lined velvet-type draw-string bag in a sturdy cardboard box. Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me; | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From tonks_op at yahoo.com Mon Feb 28 04:58:49 2005 From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:58:49 -0000 Subject: Free Magic Wand In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)" wrote: > [Lee]: > What are they made of? Tonks: It is a very nice wooden wand. There is a picture of it on the front page. (http://www.orderofmerlin.com) They have a lot of nice wands at good prices. Their promotion ends tomorrow. I have many wands from different vendors in my collection. I like Whirlwood best, but the whirlwood ones are very expensive so I never use them. From miss_megan at bigpond.com Mon Feb 28 08:56:35 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:56:35 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: lesbian princess In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was thinking of Mary, an Ordinary Girl, from Hobart who grew up to be a Real Estate Agent (surely not a magical profession) in Sydney and then met a Prince (with the unfortunate name of Fredrick) in a bar, marrying him 3 years later in a big Ceremony Televised all over the World wearing a Lovely White Gown. Now of course (and with the assistance of make up artists, personal trainers and voice coaches) she is as beautiful, thin and lovely as it is possible for a Princess to be. All she needs to do is produce the heir. All the public approval in the world is there at their feet. And more power to both of them really because they do seem very happy together and it is a great story But imagine, Ordinary Lesbian meets Princess Lesbian (mostly likely at a women's rugby match). They have a commitment ceremony in a park, both wearing tuxs, and everyone says how marvellous and fetes them in the street. That's what I can't see happening. But it is an entertaining thought anyhow. Here's some pictures of the lovely young couple http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Prince-surprised-at-warmth-of-welcome/20 05/02/28/1109546769743.html cheers storm -----Original Message----- From: pippin_999 [mailto:foxmoth at qnet.com] Sent: Sunday, 27 February 2005 1:13 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: lesbian princess --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" wrote: . There must be plenty of lesbians who are or have been born into princesshood. But marrying into it .. ah that will never happen.< Since titled folk often married to cement alliances between fortunes and/or families rather than individuals, I suspect it happened often enough. Pippin ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 25/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005 From sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 28 09:18:19 2005 From: sandra87b at yahoo.co.uk (sandra87b) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:18:19 -0000 Subject: Any good yo-yos? Message-ID: Hello anyone and everyone! I've been known to enthuse and drone about the few books which reach me, and have managed to get a few friends to read The Guardian Of Time. The copies have steadily moved from parents to off spring, and I've been pleased to see that. Anyway, one of the characters (Andie, a deaf girl who is an absolute rock for the lead character) has a yo-yo all through the story, which she plays with almost as if it's an extension of herself, and that's got the younger readers keen to have a go themselves! So does anyone know where I can get any good quality yo-yos? There are birthdays coming up, and the cheapy plastic kind of yo-yo won't last two minutes - but they're the kind that seem to be everywhere. So I'd like to get something nice, good to hold, that they'll have some fun with. Metal ones, or nicely varnished wooden ones, that's the kind I'd like to give. Sandra (with a little over three weeks planning time!) From shalimar07 at aol.com Mon Feb 28 13:16:38 2005 From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:16:38 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Free Magic Wand Message-ID: <12f.57d31e6f.2f5473b6@aol.com> Tonks, You actually use a wand? I have one(Harry's from Alivan's) but just as a collectors item. Shalimar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dfrankiswork at netscape.net Mon Feb 28 14:12:12 2005 From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:12:12 -0000 Subject: Magical professions (was: lesbian princess) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: storm wrote: > I was thinking of Mary, an Ordinary Girl, from Hobart who grew up to be a > Real Estate Agent (surely not a magical profession) Really? What about the ability to turn a tiny boxroom into a 'third bedroom'? Or to conjure up counter-offers out of nowhere to make the buyer raise their offer? Or, most sinister of all, to make large quantities of money disappear from their clients' accounts while appearing to expend no effort whatever? I think the Dark Arts are most definitely involved. By the way, speaking of dreams, I had one myself but, it being a bit too savage politically for this list, I put it on my livejournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/sageofgodalming/19541.html David From spin01 at aol.com Mon Feb 28 15:06:49 2005 From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:06:49 -0000 Subject: Do not dwell on pizzas .... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" wrote: > > > Twenty-six years ago ... no, it was only twenty-five ... I had a > co-worker who liked to make pizzas (with everything) at home (from > scratch) and bring them to share at lunchtime. He had observed that > almost all people remove the anchovies, so he kneaded the anchovies > into the dough of the crust so that people couldn't avoid them. This was too funny. I read it and thought of my kids and onions. I love big chunks of onions. But my kids hate the taste of them. So now I run them thru the food processor. they are really really fine and when cooked they pretty much disappear. so now kids don't complain but tada I still get my onions. sherry From sroginson at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 28 15:54:30 2005 From: sroginson at sbcglobal.net (stephen roginson) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:54:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Any good yo-yos? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050228155430.43242.qmail@web81509.mail.yahoo.com> Sandra - Yes, I did take note that you are looking to avoid the Plastic Yo-Yo's , but from my childhood, our yo-yo of choice was a Duncan. They are plastic, but quite well made - virtually indestructable. The wooden ones look much more organic and classy, but I remember them never working as well. Just a two cents worth from someone that hasn't picked up a yo-yo in at least a decade... Stephen sandra87b wrote: Hello anyone and everyone! I've been known to enthuse and drone about the few books which reach me, and have managed to get a few friends to read The Guardian Of Time. The copies have steadily moved from parents to off spring, and I've been pleased to see that. Anyway, one of the characters (Andie, a deaf girl who is an absolute rock for the lead character) has a yo-yo all through the story, which she plays with almost as if it's an extension of herself, and that's got the younger readers keen to have a go themselves! So does anyone know where I can get any good quality yo-yos? There are birthdays coming up, and the cheapy plastic kind of yo-yo won't last two minutes - but they're the kind that seem to be everywhere. So I'd like to get something nice, good to hold, that they'll have some fun with. Metal ones, or nicely varnished wooden ones, that's the kind I'd like to give. Sandra (with a little over three weeks planning time!) ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From plungy116 at aol.com Mon Feb 28 18:59:07 2005 From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:59:07 -0000 Subject: Free Magic Wand In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" wrote: > > Order of Merlin.com is giving a free magic wand with each order of > $35.00. But how do you know that the wand they send you is your wand? Surely you'd have to try it out first. You could end up with any old piece of bark with an old sow's tail in it, when really you were destined for a 12" wand of swishy willow with the hair from the head of a unicorn. I know the wand choses the wizard, but that is ridiculous. The wand and the wizard/witch must meet to see if they are compatible...jeez, do you guys know nothing? Sarah xx Tongue firmly in cheek :) From maritajan at yahoo.com Mon Feb 28 20:11:59 2005 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:11:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magical professions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050228201159.58875.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- davewitley wrote: > > storm wrote: > > > I was thinking of Mary, an Ordinary Girl, from Hobart who grew up > to be a > > Real Estate Agent (surely not a magical profession) > > Really? What about the ability to turn a tiny boxroom into > a 'third bedroom'? Or to conjure up counter-offers out of nowhere > to make the buyer raise their offer? Or, most sinister of all, to > make large quantities of money disappear from their clients' > accounts while appearing to expend no effort whatever? > > I think the Dark Arts are most definitely involved. > ouch.... Speaking as a Realtor.....rooms have to have a closet and a door before they can be considered a 'bedroom.' Unfortunately, we don't get to decide how big the room can be. Properties do get multiple offers. Agents are not allowed, by law, to disclose the amount of the other offers, so even though it seems like the agent is just trying to 'get the buyer to raise their offer', the agent is doing his job in telling the buyer there's another interested party and everyone should submit his/her best offer. Representing a buyer or seller is very hard work. Once in a while, we get lucky when a property sells immediately but most of the time, it involves hours of work that our client (be it buyer or seller) never sees, and the real work starts AFTER the contract is signed. I've represented buyers who've taken a year or longer to find a house, and if I were to break down by hour what I made in commission, I'd find out I worked for less than minimum wage. I won't mention giving up weekends and holidays, because we work when our clients aren't working, and being on-call 24/7 because you never want to miss a phone call. No dark arts involved. Just hard, stressful work. MJ ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need a real estate professional? Visit my site at www.maritabush.com With Marita, great service comes first.....and lasts! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From miss_megan at bigpond.com Mon Feb 28 20:38:25 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:38:25 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magical professions (was: lesbian princess) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: By the way, speaking of dreams, I had one myself but, it being a bit too savage politically for this list, I put it on my livejournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/sageofgodalming/19541.html David nice segue David! And a great dream. Very entertaining. back in the day I used to handle complaints from families with kids in the child protection system. Cruz was one of 'those' names, poor child, normatively determined to be trouble from day of naming. storm ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005 From miss_megan at bigpond.com Mon Feb 28 20:40:41 2005 From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:40:41 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magical professions In-Reply-To: <20050228201159.58875.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MJ ouch.... Speaking as a Realtor.....rooms have to have a closet and a door before they can be considered a 'bedroom.' Unfortunately, we don't get to decide how big the room can be. storm: really? I don't think that's the case here (Australia) - very few properties have built in closets. How interesting MJ No dark arts involved. Just hard, stressful work. storm But have you married a Prince? Could happen! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005 From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 28 22:15:24 2005 From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:15:24 -0000 Subject: Any good yo-yos? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sandra87b" wrote: > > Hello anyone and everyone! >Snip< So does anyone know where I can get any good quality yo-yos? There are birthdays coming up, and the cheapy plastic kind of yo-yo won't last two minutes - but they're the kind that seem to be everywhere. So I'd like to get something nice, good to hold, that they'll have some fun with. Metal ones, or nicely varnished wooden ones, that's the kind I'd like to give. > > Sandra (with a little over three weeks planning time!) *****\(@@)/***** Here is the Duncan Yo-Yo site: http://www.yo-yo.com/FEBRUARY.HTML Amazon also has Yo-Yos as well as Walmarts, Targets, KMarts etc. somewhere in the kiddy toy section. *****\(@@)/***** Dudemom_2000