From seuferer at netins.net  Fri Jul  1 02:43:34 2005
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:43:34 -0000
Subject: Audio book links
In-Reply-To: <d9t8v3+5j8u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da2akm+s086@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
wrote:
> I> So Jim Dale is British as well?  I had never heard his voice. Now 
I 
> just need to find a sample of Stephen Fry's voice.
> 
> While I have frequently ordered books from amazon.co.uk, it looks as 
> though the audio books are mighty pricy, especially when converting 
> pounds sterling to US dollars.  What is an alternate source for an 
> American customer to order the Stephen Fry versions of the books?
> 
> Joe
> 
Hi Joe,

I've mentioned this on this list before, but I don't get here very 
often, and I don't mind repeating myself. :)

I have both versions of audio CD--Jim Dale reading the unabridged US 
and Fry reading the Unabriged UK.

Both have a very pleasant listening voice, and both give each 
character his or her own 'voice' and do an excellent job of remaining 
consistent through out all five (so far) books.  There are some 
differences, though:

Overall, Jim Dale has a much broader vocal range. His female 
characters don't sound like a guy trying to use a falsetto voice, 
where as Fry's do.  Dale gives McGonagall a realistic Scottish brogue, 
and Seamus Finnegan an Irish one.  Fry does the Irish for Seamus, but 
nothing noticable for Minerva.

Jim Dale 'sings' whenever there is a 'song' in the books, Steven Fry 
just 'reads' the songs.  The sorting hat songs, the school songs, 
Weasley is Our King, the Valentines song, etc.  I found that I really 
missed that with Fry's version.

Steven Fry does Snape more in tune with what I think Snape would sound 
like, very low and smooth and cultured. The Fry edition CD's have more 
special effects like an echoing sound when talking out of the 
pensieves or very loud when receiving a Howler, etc.

I like both sets very much, but if I had to choose one set over the 
other as being 'better', I would choose the Jim Dale set.

This is just my own opinion, so take it for what it is worth, but I 
thought you might like to hear from someone who's heard both--
incessantly. :)

Shanti, aka world's #1 sufferer of near-terminal Severitus.







From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Fri Jul  1 02:55:17 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:55:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Audio book links
References: <da2104+vdhm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c57de8$50965000$ea59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

hi Joe well let me first Clarify something the Tapes I am talking about are 
2 track tapes Talking books come on 4 track tapes. and now another point. 
anything lasts longer if you take really good  care of it. for instance I 
have a lot of books on standard 2 track tape and they are in very good 
condition I don't listen to them that much so that might be one reason why 
that is. I have a few books on CD as well now I to agree with you that a CD 
sounds a lot clearer in sound and also that it might be a bit more easier to 
navigate but really I find that real drawback to CD's is that they don't 
seem to last as long as tapes now the reason I say that is because they are 
really fragile I mean if they get a little scratch on them they start 
skipping and a bit of dust can also do that to them as well. Now I am not 
saying that I don't take as much care of my CD's as I do of my tapes because 
I most sertenley do I have all my CD's in there cases with Braille labels on 
them the cases to know what they are. but what I am saying is that The worst 
thing that could happen to tapes is that they can get stuck in the tape 
player and have to be rold back on the real but other then that I really 
don't think that tapes are that bad be cides if you stop a CD then you have 
to go through all the tracks again to find your place with a tape you don't 
have to do that. basically what it comes down to is personal choice and also 
the fact that there are prowes and cons to both CD's and Tapes and besides 
like I said  be for I find that books on CD take up much more CD's then 
books on tape case in point I have both The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings 
on both Tape and CD. Let's compare the 2 The Hobbit on CD it is 10 CD's on 
tape it is 7 tapes the Lord of the Rings The Fellowship of the Ring on Tape 
it is 12 Tapes on CD it is 16 CD's the 2 Towers on tape it is 10 Tapes and 
on CD it is 14 CD's and finely The Return of The King on CD it is 16 CD's on 
tape it is 11 tapes. I think you see my point. thanks for listening. from 
Mich Verrier from Elk Lake Ontario Canada.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Bento" <joseph at kirtland.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:59 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Audio book links


> Cassette tapes are also typically less expensive than CD's.  However,
> I honestly no longer have a tape player other than a boom box.  Tapes
> seem to have a much shorter lifespan than CD's.  I've noticed sound
> degregation on many tapes only a few years old.
>
> You can get 2 hours playing time on a C120 cassette tape, though many
> manufacturers used to discourage using tapes of that length.  (As a
> blind person, your tape player is probably variable speed.  I believe
> some of the talking book tapes ran at a tape speed of 3/4 ips or slower.)
>
> CD's are easier to "rip" to a computer so you can copy the files to a
> portable MP3 player. I would also think CD's might be easier than tape
> for a blind person to navigate with their separate tracks.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Mich Verrier" <mich at n...> wrote:
>> hi all I am wondering if the CD's have a different thing on each CD
> Sleeve
>> then what does the Tape formats of the books have on them? anything?
> I am
>> also asking because I am blind so there for can't see for my self. I
> like
>> Jim Dale's voice  Also did you know that you can  fit more on to a
> tape then
>> you can a CD? from Mich Verrier.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:37 PM
>> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Audio book links
>>
>>
>> > "Joe Bento" _joseph at k..._ (mailto:joseph at k...)   wrote:
>> >
>> >>> I just took advantage of a buy-it-now option on ebay for  all
> five Jim
>> > Dale CD audio books new and shrink wrapped for $159.   <<
>> >
>> > That was a good deal! You are in for a treat and I envy you the
>> > experience.
>> >
>> > It's not just the books themselves. Spend some time looking at the
>> > packaging. Each group of CDs within a book has a different image
> on it.
>> > The  cardboard
>> > folders are all different. I especially like the back  cover of
> autographs
>> > on
>> > one of the folders in Order of the Phoenix.
>> >
>> > Have fun!
>> >
>> > ---Mary
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From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Fri Jul  1 04:35:28 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:35:28 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Audio book links
References: <da2akm+s086@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <030d01c57df8$5fb9a310$ea59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

hi Joe well you could try looking up Stephen Fry up on Winmx that is what I 
did when I wanted to hear his voice and not end up paying for it. I 
downloaded part of hp poa and listened to fry reading it I can personally 
say that over all I much prefer Jim Dail over Stephen Fry just judging from 
what I have herd of the little bit that I was able to download from winmx. 
from Mich Verrier.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa" <seuferer at netins.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Audio book links


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...>
> wrote:
>> I> So Jim Dale is British as well?  I had never heard his voice. Now
> I
>> just need to find a sample of Stephen Fry's voice.
>>
>> While I have frequently ordered books from amazon.co.uk, it looks as
>> though the audio books are mighty pricy, especially when converting
>> pounds sterling to US dollars.  What is an alternate source for an
>> American customer to order the Stephen Fry versions of the books?
>>
>> Joe
>>
> Hi Joe,
>
> I've mentioned this on this list before, but I don't get here very
> often, and I don't mind repeating myself. :)
>
> I have both versions of audio CD--Jim Dale reading the unabridged US
> and Fry reading the Unabriged UK.
>
> Both have a very pleasant listening voice, and both give each
> character his or her own 'voice' and do an excellent job of remaining
> consistent through out all five (so far) books.  There are some
> differences, though:
>
> Overall, Jim Dale has a much broader vocal range. His female
> characters don't sound like a guy trying to use a falsetto voice,
> where as Fry's do.  Dale gives McGonagall a realistic Scottish brogue,
> and Seamus Finnegan an Irish one.  Fry does the Irish for Seamus, but
> nothing noticable for Minerva.
>
> Jim Dale 'sings' whenever there is a 'song' in the books, Steven Fry
> just 'reads' the songs.  The sorting hat songs, the school songs,
> Weasley is Our King, the Valentines song, etc.  I found that I really
> missed that with Fry's version.
>
> Steven Fry does Snape more in tune with what I think Snape would sound
> like, very low and smooth and cultured. The Fry edition CD's have more
> special effects like an echoing sound when talking out of the
> pensieves or very loud when receiving a Howler, etc.
>
> I like both sets very much, but if I had to choose one set over the
> other as being 'better', I would choose the Jim Dale set.
>
> This is just my own opinion, so take it for what it is worth, but I
> thought you might like to hear from someone who's heard both--
> incessantly. :)
>
> Shanti, aka world's #1 sufferer of near-terminal Severitus.
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From bumbledore at comcast.net  Fri Jul  1 13:55:40 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:55:40 -0400
Subject: Fw: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP GOF MOVIE RULES
Message-ID: <006101c57e44$9197fca0$87130b18@cauldron1>

resending because it didn't go thru the first time.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bumbledore" <bumbledore at comcast.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP GOF MOVIE RULES


> Not really Tonks.. Im the same way. People do not teach their kids to
behave
> in public the way they used to.
> Then again, if I threw a fit in a grocery store, it was expected for mom
to
> swat me, if not dad, then maybe someone else would..
> Today if you do that, they call child protection services on you.
>
> Great world to live in, eh? Is it any wonder some of us wish dearly that
we
> could live in the wizarding world?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tonks" <tonks_op at yahoo.com>
> To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:43 PM
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP GOF MOVIE RULES
>
>
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bumbledore"
> > <bumbledore at c...> wrote:
> > > I prefer to go to a movie at first thing in the moring or early
> > afternoon during a weekday, when the majority of patrons won't be
> > there.
> >
> > Tonks:
> >
> > I agree. I like to go to a early afternoon show because the kids are
> > not there. And I like having the place almost to myself, like a
> > private showing. I can get the seat that I like, left side - last
> > row. No one to kick my seat, no one tall in front or with a cap on.
> > Ghesh.. don't people teach their kids anything these days.. take you
> > cap off when you go in. Sit STILL.  Shut UP...
> >
> > Well I only come out of my hermit's cave now and then. So people in
> > general are annoying at times. I don't like a lot of noise. Oh, ya..
> > why do they always have to have the sound SO LOUD. I wear earplugs
> > when I go to the movies.  Must be all of those teens who have blown
> > their eardrums on rock music.  And yes, I get the senior citizen
> > discount. Can't you tell? ;-)
>




From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 15:34:02 2005
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:34:02 -0000
Subject: Sitting though movie credits and an odd question
In-Reply-To: <da1nin+stss@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da3npa+sae7@eGroups.com>

dudemom_2000 wrote:
> 
> Finally a kindred spirit! I watch the movie credits. Sometimes its 
> for the funny stuff they sometimes insert into them, the music or 
> the little ending bit they put in. Sometimes I pay attention - to 
> see who is doing what - suprisingly you will actually see the same 
> names (not movie stars) in some of the movies.
> 
> We also find it is a good way to make sure we get out of there in 
> one piece without someone trying to run us over because they just 
> have to get out there right now! We don't have to fight the crowd 
> and don't have to fight the initial traffic to get out of the 
> parking lot. Credits do have their purpose!
> 
> Dudemom_2000
> 
> *****\(@@)/*****

Barb now: Oh, I always stay until the end of the credits, and we're 
almost always the only ones who do. I like to see who composed the 
music and which orchestra did it and my husband likes to see who the 
animators were, if there were any. Plus, there's no crowd to leave, 
the bathrooms are free, and everyone's out of the parking lot by the 
time we get out. The bonuses at the end of the credits are nice, 
when they're there.

-Barb





From prncssme at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 16:24:07 2005
From: prncssme at yahoo.com (prncssme)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:24:07 -0000
Subject: Weasley Countdown Clock
In-Reply-To: <da1n4m+qncd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da3qn7+acn3@eGroups.com>

Joe:
> Yep, as a kid I looked forward to Christmas, birthdays, and July 
> 4th.  July 4th lost its excitement when fireworks were banned in my 
> county (San Mateo, California) many years ago.  (I have lived in 
> Utah for 5 years now, and yes, I buy fireworks!) 

Princess Sara:
  What a small world! I moved from Alameda to SLC, Utah four years ago. ;o) The fireworks 
here definitely beat out NoCal, hands down.

Joe:
> Now I have a countdown clock on my computer, I have both American 
> and British language editions of the books, I'll soon have the 
> American audio books, and (YES!!) I located a new-in-box countdown 
> standee.
> 
> With all the seriousness of a career, and the very questionable 
> state of our world today, it's really fun to have Harry Potter to 
> look forward to.  :-)
> 
> Joe

Princess Sara:
  I think my excitement comes from the fact that I'm just really disappointed I had to grow 
up in the first place! Being excited for a book that is *technically* for kids and going to 
midnight release parties and all that just really makes me feel like a kid. Although, now 
that I have children, Christmas has become quite an event again too.

- Sara







From maliksthong at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 11:29:54 2005
From: maliksthong at yahoo.com (Chys Lattes)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:29:54 -0000
Subject: Sitting though movie credits and an odd question
In-Reply-To: <d9vteg+rg5q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da39fi+5pe1@eGroups.com>

Sometimes the music in the end is worth the wait. I liked Shrek 2.
Frou Frou holding out for a hero, wasn't it? And the donkey-dragon 
hybrids at the end cracked me up.

Chys



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Marilyn Peake" 
<marilynpeake at c...> wrote:
> Hi, Saitaina,
> 
> After seeing a couple of movies with great add-ons after the 
credits, 
> my family now stays until the end of credits for every movie that 
> seems like it may have the additional scenes.  We've caught some 
very 
> funny extra scenes that way! :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Marilyn
> 

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
> wrote:
> >> Am I the only movie goers, who after
> > seeing one too many movies with
> > 'scenes' at the end of the credits, now
> > sits through EVERY movie credit reel
> > just in case?







From seuferer at netins.net  Fri Jul  1 16:50:02 2005
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:50:02 -0000
Subject: Massive Fic Update Lost Souls Found
Message-ID: <da3s7q+4rn1@eGroups.com>

I'm going to be completely afk for the 4th weekend as it is my son's 
birthday on the 4th and we have massive family influx.  Yay! :)  I 
am posting all my 'readied' chapters now.  This is no longer a 
sluggishly updated WIP.  I am on-target to be completed before HBP 
comes out, and it is a novel-length fic, so if you have not yet been 
reading and have 'free time' over the weekend, this might be an 
ideal time to 'catch up'.

Lost Souls Found updated the following chapters:

Chapter 44: Celebrations (reception of Remus and Tonks' wedding)
Chapter 45:  Goodbyes (end of school year)
Chapter 46:  Subterfuge (Beginning of Snape's activities over the 
summer)
Chapter 47:  Summer Holidays (More of Snape/Rowena's activity over 
the summer)

Severus Snape and OFC, Romance/drama, hurt/comfort. After OotP so 
loads of spoilers for that book, but before Half Blood Prince; so AU 
to that book when it arrives. Voldemort is out in the open, Snape is 
involved in DE activities because of his OotP Spy role. A researcher 
from Ministry offers to aid and assist Dumbledore and is 
reacquainted with our Potion's Master whom she knew slightly from 
school. Snarky Snape, in depth plot. (Way too much plot for those of 
you who want PWP.) WIP Rated NC-17 for romantic/sexual content in 
later chapters as well as some graphic/mature dealings with the 
horrors of a Magical War. Overall a romance, but I do not pull any 
punches when it comes to dealing with Snape as a Death Eater to 
maintain his `cover'. War is gruesome.

http://www.fanfiction.net/~lisasimaginings Author page (see my cute 
family?and my hubby who has not cut his hair since HBP-release date 
was announced, just for me so he can dress as Snape for the book 
party!! What a guy! /vbg/)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1789723/1/  Story link at ffn

http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/authors.php?no=13713  Author Page at 
AFN
http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/story.php?no=25336  Story link at 
afn.

Both of my beta's have the story through chapter 53.  I have 
received the return comments/edits from one of the betas all the way 
through 53.  I will re-edit and post as quickly as I can when my 
family holiday is over.  I expect the story to end with 55-56 
chapters and an eppilogue, and I am 'on target' to get completed 
before HBP comes out. 

I would love to hear your comments on the story.  If you live in the 
US, have a wonderful 4th of July weekend!! :)  (well, even if you 
don't live in the U.S.--but it's a holiday for us. ;) )

Lisa/aka Shanti





From Mhochberg at aol.com  Fri Jul  1 18:15:18 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:15:18 EDT
Subject: Audio book links
Message-ID: <193.42ec41f9.2ff6e236@aol.com>

"Mich Verrier" _mich at ntl.sympatico.ca_ (mailto:mich at ntl.sympatico.ca)   
writes:

>> hi all I am wondering if the CD's have a different thing  on each CD 
Sleeve 
then what does the Tape formats of the books have on them?  anything? I am 
also asking because I am blind so there for can't see for my  self. I like 
Jim Dale's voice  Also did you know that you can  fit  more on to a tape then 
you can a CD? <<
 
Hi, Mitch!
 
I don't know about the tape formats but I will look when I am at the store  
next week. In preparation, the local Barnes and Noble store has a huge HP  
display, including the audio books. That is a good question. In general, the  
artwork on the Jim Dale CDs are identical to the books. 
 
Ordinary audio tapes run 60 or 90 minutes. CDs hold 70-80 minutes. Both  
formats have their drawbacks. I still have a lot of tape players throughout the  
house. Some have a "line in" option so I added cords to them and plug in a  
portable CD player as needed. The tape player in my bedroom has become quite  
noisy, with the sound of the tape turning becoming quite noticeable. 
 
I've heard part of the BBC's audio play of Lord of the Rings but wasn't  that 
impressed. It may have been my mood, though. When you are expecting one  
thing and get another, you can get cranky. <g> I do like the audio books  of the 
Hobbit and LOTR, though. Our library has a good selection of audio books  but 
they are missing some of the LOTR books. I hope they can fill in the gap  soon. 
 
---Mary



From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Fri Jul  1 22:04:20 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:04:20 -0400
Subject: Audio book links
References: <193.42ec41f9.2ff6e236@aol.com>
Message-ID: <088301c57e88$d66bacc0$895ae2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Mary:
> Hi, Mitch!
>
> I don't know about the tape formats but I will look when I am at 
> the store next week. In preparation, the local Barnes and Noble 
> store has a huge HP display, including the audio books. That is 
> a good question. In general, the artwork on the Jim Dale CDs are 
> identical to the books.
> <snip>
> Our library has a good selection of audio books but they are 
> missing some of the LOTR books. I hope they can fill in the gap 
> soon.


Hi Mary, well, if you like audio books then try out this web page, there is a text link the place is called Spoken Word Audio and it 
is located in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. They sell all 
audio books at really good prices. The link is:

http://www.spoken-word.com 

from Mich Verrier.







From swartell at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 22:33:58 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: question about FAQ Poll on JKR's site
Message-ID: <20050701223358.82064.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>

I've been thinking that JKR would answer the question
on her faq poll before July 16.  If she doesn't then
she might as well not bother, because we'll have the
answer without her doing anything (beyond having
written HBP).  She doesn't generally pull stunts like
that, so I'm hoping some additional stuff will be
showing up soon.

The questions are:

How do members of the order communicate? - most votes

Is that the pensieve on the cover of the US book?

Will Harry continue to learn Occlumancy in HBP?

It seems HIGHLY likely that all of these will be
answered on July 16, but I would dearly love to have
her toss us a few crumbs before then.

Anyway, I'm bouncing between her site and the various
HP sites, and generally acting like a 10-year-old
who's been promised a treat.  Is it time yet?  Why
not?  Can't I have a peek?  I promise not to tell!
...

Does anyone have any counter ideas about why she might
delay answering till after we have the answers?


Sue

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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jul  1 22:58:55 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:58:55 +1000
Subject: Spirit Guides gather
In-Reply-To: <20050701223358.82064.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42C6574F.256.43B6388@localhost>

Rather nice story about a Girl Guide camp inspired by Harry Potter in 
a Melbourne paper today.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15789566%5E2
862,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/bvyzn

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
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thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 15:36:30 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] question about FAQ Poll on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <20050701223358.82064.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050702153630.73505.qmail@web61013.mail.yahoo.com>



Sue Wartell <swartell at yahoo.com> wrote:
I've been thinking that JKR would answer the question
on her faq poll before July 16.  If she doesn't then
she might as well not bother, because we'll have the
answer without her doing anything (beyond having
written HBP).  She doesn't generally pull stunts like
that, so I'm hoping some additional stuff will be
showing up soon.

snipped poll questions

It seems HIGHLY likely that all of these will be
answered on July 16, but I would dearly love to have
her toss us a few crumbs before then.

Anyway, I'm bouncing between her site and the various
HP sites, and generally acting like a 10-year-old
who's been promised a treat.  Is it time yet?  Why
not?  Can't I have a peek?  I promise not to tell!
...

Now me:

lol, glad it's not just me then. According to Mugglenet Bloomsbury start their advertising blitz on Monday. Perhaps she'll start tossing crumbs to coincide with that?

Sam

(wondering how long it will be before the "new canon withdrawal symptoms" start up again for book seven.)


		
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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 16:02:25 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:02:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Amanda!
Message-ID: <20050702160225.32379.qmail@web41123.mail.yahoo.com>

Oh my, these decorations just won't do!

*hurriedly replaces them with Alan Rickman photos*

There, much better. Sorry, Amanda, but the man himself
declined to appear for the party. Something about
fearing for his safety in this room. <vbg>

Today's honouree is Amanda, our Premiere Snapeologist.
Birthday owls can be sent care of this or directly to
Amanda at editor at texas.net or lewanski_amanda at bah.com

I hope your day is magical, your children behave like
angels and that you're not in the office at all. :)

Happy Birthday, Amanda!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, who thinks Amanda is the
bestest friend a person could have :-D

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From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jul  2 16:13:44 2005
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:13:44 -0000
Subject: Abuse at Gitmo: The Depths of Depravity
Message-ID: <da6efo+uh3i@eGroups.com>

A shocking report from Congressional investigators reveal how low our 
military interrogators are willing to stoop in their depraved and 
pitiless mission

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050626/D8AV7KIG0.html

"In one session, [Congressional visitors] questioned a man who 
defense officials said was a Saudi national and admitted al-Qaida 
member who was picked up in Afghanistan and knew nine of the Sept. 
11, 2001, hijackers. In another, a female interrogator took an 
unusual approach to wear down a detainee, reading a Harry Potter book 
aloud for hours. He turned his back and put his hands over his ears."

No doubt, the woman was reading from Book Five, and giving away all 
kind of spoilers. No wonder the poor terro, oops, I meant detainee 
had to hold his hands over his ears!

What next? Will our military hire dementors as prison guards? Force 
prisoners to drink Veritaserum? Or use the Imperio curse on them? 

Oh, the humanity.....

   - CMC 










From joseph at kirtland.com  Sat Jul  2 16:18:56 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:18:56 -0000
Subject: question about FAQ Poll on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <20050702153630.73505.qmail@web61013.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <da6epg+64je@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sam Edwards
<hermionesmum at y...> wrote:

> Sam
> 
> (wondering how long it will be before the "new canon withdrawal
symptoms" start up again for book seven.)
> 
> 

I'd give that till the latter part of Saturday morning on the 16th.  :-)

Though JKR has not yet announced the fact, I wonder if she's started
on book 7 yet? 

Joe






From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 17:43:07 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: question about FAQ Poll on JKR's site
In-Reply-To: <da6epg+64je@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050702174307.20590.qmail@web61015.mail.yahoo.com>



Joe Bento <joseph at kirtland.com> wrote:


> Sam
> 
> (wondering how long it will be before the "new canon withdrawal
symptoms" start up again for book seven.)
> 
> 

I'd give that till the latter part of Saturday morning on the 16th.  :-)

lol. Oh no. I expect at least three weeks worth of chat going on into the wee small hours refining theories and enjoying being right.

Tonks is evil and the lion man is Lupin's dad, damit!

Then it'll start:)

Though JKR has not yet announced the fact, I wonder if she's started
on book 7 yet? 

Joe


I seem to remember her saying that she had made a start, but she wasn't pulling any all-nighters at the moment because of the little one. I think it was on her website but I can't remember which section.

Sam 






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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  2 18:49:16 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:49:16 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
Message-ID: <da6njc+v03o@eGroups.com>

Hi!

Haven't been here for a while as went on holiday then took ages 
catching up with the main thread.  The following things have 
actually happened in the last week or so, so I thought I'd share 
them and ask others to post their similar observances!

You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....

1)  You're flicking through the sunday newspapers when there's a 
huge picture of some sort of eagle accompanying an article and you 
take one look and immediately think "Buckbeak!".

2)  You drive past an Estates Agent's board on a building giving the 
name of the company as 'Sirius' and your heart leaps, then 
immediately sinks.

3)  You read a newspaper front page headline "Harry's girl flies in" 
and you start thinking "Which girl?  Has someone revealed who his 
new love-interest will be?" then you realise it's actually referring 
to Prince Harry.

4) Lastly, and most worryingly, you pick up your sleeping not-quite-
five-year-old to transfer him from your bed back to his own and he 
mumbles in his sleep "Harry Potter, Dobby, Dobby".

Karen









From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 19:03:30 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:03:30 EDT
Subject: Audio book links
Message-ID: <82.2b3bb19a.2ff83f02@aol.com>

"Mich Verrier" mich at ntl.sympatico.ca writes:

Hi Mary, well, if you like audio books then try out this web page, there is  
a text link the place is called Spoken Word Audio and it 
is located in  downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. They sell all 
audio books at really good  prices. The link is:
http://www.spoken-word.com 

I wrote: 
Thanks, Mitch. I did a quick check for an audio book that I want to  replace. 
It's "The Screwtape Letters" by CS Lewis, narrated by John Cleese. The  copy 
I have is on tape and is finally wearing out. It is an abridged  version of 
the book, unfortunately and 3 or 4 of letters are missing.
 
I have heard the unabridged version, narrated by someone else, but I am a  
John Cleese fan and would like to replace my tapes. 
 
Audio books are getting very popular here and our library stocks a good  
selection. Even so, on the waiting list, I'm number 16 out of 29 for the Half  
Blood Prince. 
 
I listen to my favorite books as I am winding down for bed each night. It  is 
a good way to quiet down my mind.
 
---Mary
 



From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 00:36:51 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:36:51 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da6njc+v03o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da7bv3+3rd1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker"
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:

> 4) Lastly, and most worryingly, you pick up your sleeping not-quite-
> five-year-old to transfer him from your bed back to his own and he 
> mumbles in his sleep "Harry Potter, Dobby, Dobby".
> 
> Karen

Awwwww.

How about:

~EVERY time you go into a store with a sign for HBP, you immediately
wish you could be there to buy your copy, even though you already have
two on reserve at a store planning a party and midnight release.

~You covet the little calendar pages on the standups that say how many
days left 'til HBP.

~You have an irrational fondness for your Hewlett-Packard printer.

Annemehr






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul  3 00:45:15 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:45:15 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da7bv3+3rd1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008e01c57f68$7b766450$0400a8c0@pensive>

Awwwww.

How about:


~You covet the little calendar pages on the standups that say how many
days left 'til HBP.

~You have an irrational fondness for your Hewlett-Packard printer.

Annemehr

Sherry now:
How about
You've added the count down of days to your MSN messenger screen name every
single day since the announcement.

And not only a fondness for the HP printer, but also your PH computer.  Are
you sure HP doesn't stand for Harry Potter?




From rxtlc at comcast.net  Sun Jul  3 01:33:10 2005
From: rxtlc at comcast.net (Jenn)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:33:10 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday Dobby!!
In-Reply-To: <d9q7rf+mn3l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da7f8m+1121g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at y...> wrote:
> Today, June 28th is Dobby's birthday... Congrats!...
> 
> I wonder how old is he?
> 
> Juli

Old. Like me.  Who needs a house elf.  And was also born on this day and <<sniff!>> has yet 
to have anyone here wish her a happy birthday.  Ah, well, back to the grind, accio broom...  
(nah, actually, we just got back from a nice vacation on Cape Cod, where my family 
celebrated my nephew's birthday, my birthday and my brother's birthday, all this week!)  
Jenn





From department.of.mysteries at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 01:41:54 2005
From: department.of.mysteries at gmail.com (Sarah Gipp)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:41:54 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <008e01c57f68$7b766450$0400a8c0@pensive>
References: <da7bv3+3rd1@eGroups.com> <008e01c57f68$7b766450$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <a9844753050702184126002718@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/2/05, Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>  Awwwww.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 
> ~You covet the little calendar pages on the standups that say how many
> days left 'til HBP.
> 
> ~You have an irrational fondness for your Hewlett-Packard printer.
> 
> Annemehr
> 
> Sherry now:
> How about
> You've added the count down of days to your MSN messenger screen name 
> every
> single day since the announcement.
> 
> And not only a fondness for the HP printer, but also your PH computer. Are
> you sure HP doesn't stand for Harry Potter?
> 
Or when you jump at the mention of anything at *all* with the initials H or 
P, despite the fact that the town you've lived in all your life's initials 
are just that.

You know you are perhaps *unhealthily* obsessed when you're worried your 
favorite more-minor-than-minor characters will have different first names, 
last names, Houses, or ages than those you have decided upon for fanfiction 
purposes.

Or when you're overworked at school and one of your nonfandom friends 
suggests you get a Time-Turner.

Or when you start telling said friend about all the paperwork you know you'd 
need to fill out for a Time-Turner.


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From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Sun Jul  3 02:38:46 2005
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:38:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tips for beating the heat?
In-Reply-To: <20050628144246.36266.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42C71776.11574.C8C4AD@localhost>

On 28 Jun 2005 at 10:42, Sheryll Townsend wrote:

> Any tips on cooling this
> place off a bit? Or just cooling me off a bit?
> 
> Sheryll, tired of sweating on the keyboard and out of
> new movies to watch

If your outer walls are brick or stone, or some other porous material, try soaking 
them down with a hose.  The water that soaks in then evaporates, dropping the 
temperature inside by a remarkable degree.  When the walls look dry again outside, 
hose them down again.  :-)  It even works on hot nights.  Just be sure to close your 
windows while you're spraying the walls!  ;-)

***
Tammy Rizzo
ms-tamany at rcn.com

What were you in your pants that was still pining over and went to the
businessman?
          -- 'Atlanta Nights', by Travis Tea (chapter 34)



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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul  3 04:02:13 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 3 Jul 2005 04:02:13 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1120363333.50.52506.m30@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 3, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From marilynpeake at cs.com  Sun Jul  3 04:28:51 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:28:51 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da6njc+v03o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da7pi3+m19v@eGroups.com>


I love that you asked this question!  So I'm not alone?  The other 
evening, at my older son's violin recital, one program schedule was 
blank.  A few people turned the blank program to the side and 
commented, "Oh, that one's blank."  Twice, I almost said, "Oh, no.  
Could be like Tom Riddle's diary."  Each time, I caught myself, 
realizing that people who had not read Harry Potter might not get the 
joke. :)

Cheers,
Marilyn

~~ Drink deeply by land or sea. Earth comes only once.~~
>From THE FISHERMAN'S SON Trilogy 
http://www.marilynpeake.com
http://www.thefishermansson.com

>From PIERS ANTHONY, best-selling, award-winning science fiction and 
fantasy author:
"Now I have read The Fisherman's Son.  This is a nice children's 
fantasy, grounded in realism."

>From JAMES A. COX, Editor-in-Chief of the MIDWEST BOOK REVIEW:
"The Fisherman's Son is a delightful and colorfully narrated tale 
which documents Marilyn Peake as a story teller of considerable 
narrative skill."
    
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker" 
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:
> 
>> The following things have actually happened in the last week or 
so, so I thought I'd share them and ask others to post their similar 
observances!
> 
>> You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....






From marilynpeake at cs.com  Sun Jul  3 04:32:52 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:32:52 -0000
Subject: OFF-TOPIC/WAS Re: Tips for beating the heat?
In-Reply-To: <42C71776.11574.C8C4AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <da7ppk+pa6r@eGroups.com>

Hi, Tammy,

I notice that you have a quote from "Atlanta Nights" by Travis Tea, 
the book that was written as a prime example of everything not to do 
in writing a book.  I love the story behind how and why that book was 
actually written!!!! :)

Best Wishes,
Marilyn

~~ Drink deeply by land or sea. Earth comes only once.~~
>From THE FISHERMAN'S SON Trilogy 
http://www.marilynpeake.com
http://www.thefishermansson.com

>From PIERS ANTHONY, best-selling, award-winning science fiction and 
fantasy author:
"Now I have read The Fisherman's Son.  This is a nice children's 
fantasy, grounded in realism."

>From JAMES A. COX, Editor-in-Chief of the MIDWEST BOOK REVIEW:
"The Fisherman's Son is a delightful and colorfully narrated tale 
which documents Marilyn Peake as a story teller of considerable 
narrative skill."

    
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tammy Rizzo" <ms-
tamany at r...> wrote:
> 
>> ***
>> Tammy Rizzo
>> ms-tamany at r...
> 
>> What were you in your pants that was still pining over and went to 
the businessman?
>>           -- 'Atlanta Nights', by Travis Tea (chapter 34)






From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul  3 07:43:46 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:43:46 -0000
Subject: a few replies
Message-ID: <da84vi+kq9i@eGroups.com>

Tonks wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27706 :

<< I never heard of it either, but here it is:
http://www.remus-lupin.net/
It doesn't look like a very good design to me, loads slow and hard to
read. But this is the URL. >>

Thanks, Tonks. It loaded quick enough for me to look it over; I
decided it isn't worth bookmarking.

Juli wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27715 :

<< Today, June 28th is Dobby's birthday... Congrats!...
I wonder how old is he? >> 

Maria Gromova replied in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27729 :

<< Probably several hundred years, from what I know about elves. >>

Remember the House Elf heads mounted on the wall of 12 Grimmauld
Place? Sirius mentioned something about which of his relatives had
come up with the idea of beheading the House Elf when it got too old
to carry a tea tray. I think House Elves must have much shorter lives
than High Elves, for that many of them to have gotten too old to work.

Sheryll asked in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27728 :

<< Any tips on cooling this place off a bit? Or just cooling me off a
bit? >>

My friend says to put a block of ice in front of each fan so the ice
will cool the air that the fan blows at you. I like to just stay in a
bathtub of cold water (once I added ice!) but there I can't use the
computer and can read only things that it's okay if they get wet.





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 14:05:12 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:05:12 -0400
Subject: FF.net deleting favorites?
Message-ID: <1a2738400507030705492851ae@mail.gmail.com>

In between my bookmarks being destroyed and the history of links being
'obliviated' by Firefox (my settings are suppose to have at least
sixty days - not one day), I now find all my favorites bookmarked
under FF.net are gone.

Out of curiosity, does anyone remember a notice about disappearing
bookmarked favorites at FF.net?  Granted, I very rarely log-in but...
do we have to periodically log-in to keep our favorites?

Dina



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 14:30:25 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:30:25 -0000
Subject: Nevermind Re: FF.net deleting favorites?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400507030705492851ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <da8sq1+97s6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Dina Lerret <bunniqula at g...>
wrote:

> Out of curiosity, does anyone remember a notice about disappearing
> bookmarked favorites at FF.net?  Granted, I very rarely log-in but...
> do we have to periodically log-in to keep our favorites?

I had to hit reload multiple times and they popped up.

Gah, sucks trying to recreate your bookmark file but I at least know
70-75% are under LiveJournal/HPANA/torrent files and 5% links to
unsubbed YahooGroups/LiveJournal, but the rest is... who knows.

Dina






From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul  3 15:02:03 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 3 Jul 2005 15:02:03 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1120402923.30.28307.m25@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 3, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 15:16:35 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:16:35 -0400
Subject: Pig fat and salt = it's a good thing
Message-ID: <1a27384005070308167357e077@mail.gmail.com>

Currently, I'm eating last night's leftover and it's yummy. 
Basically, it's potatoes, mushrooms, bacon, and onions with sour
cream.

Peel and cut up potatoes (I used 5 lbs) then boil them.  Peel and cut
up onions (I used three medium-sized vidalia (sp?)) then cook them in
a touch of olive oil until they're golden mush (i.e. carmelized).  Cut
up bacon (the 'fresh' stuff to get pig lard - I use maple-flavoured by
Hormel) into bite-sized pieces and cook them up in the onion mush to
whatever softness of bacon you want.  Add a bit of pepper and salt the
bacon/onion mix like you have no fear of a heart attack, and if you
have a sweet tooth, add as much honey as you want.  Let this simmer. 
While the bacon/onion mix is simmering, boil the mushrooms about ten
minutes, drain, and then let cool enough to halve or quarter the
mushrooms.  Add mushrooms to bacon/onion mix and simmer.  Finally, add
1/2 - 2/3 cup of sour cream (mine expired May 27 but it still tasted
okay), mix, pour this all on top of the cooked potatoes, add in *more*
salt, mix, and eat.

I've noticed it tastes better on the second day, after the
potatoes/mushrooms have soaked up the flavour.  I'll agree with Emeril
that pig fat adds a good flavouring to cook food in.  BTW, I found
this recipe as part of a European dish.

Dina



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 15:36:54 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:36:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday x 3!
Message-ID: <20050703153654.27312.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>

*finishes hanging sparkly streamers and suspends
glittery confetti above the room*

Yes, lots of sparkly decorations today, there's lots
of partying to be done! Anyone want to bring in the
snacks while I fetch the cakes?

Today's birthday honourees are Debbie, Pip and
Rebecca. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list
or directly to Debbie at: elfundeb at comcast.net, to Pip
at: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk and to Rebecca at:
GypseeLynn at yahoo.com

I hope all you have the magical days you deserve -
filled with fun and relaxation.

Happy Birthday, Debbie!
Happy Birthday, Pip!
Happy Birthday, Rebecca!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul  3 16:22:37 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:22:37 -0000
Subject: "Triple Take" Sunday Funnies
Message-ID: <da93cd+555p@eGroups.com>

Has anyone seen the "Triple Take" comic in today's funnies section of 
the paper?

They're not only dissing our favorite hero, but it's also a stab at JKR 
as well.

While I can see the humor, it's rather poor.

I could not find a link that displays same day comics.  A search online 
should show it in a couple days if you don't get "Triple Take" in your 
Sunday newspaper.

Joe





From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul  3 16:59:52 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:59:52 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da7bv3+3rd1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com>

~You have an irrational fondness for your Hewlett-Packard printer.

Yes, this is me.  Oh and HP sauce - it's delicious on cheese on toast!!

No, the worst one is worrying that if I had a pet dog would calling it 
Sirius would be regarded as pretentious, (but perhaps better than 
calling a pet wolf Remus!)

Sarah x
Now on Day three of Weasley's Countdown clock - 'time to polish your 
broom'






From phil at pcsgames.net  Sun Jul  3 17:21:19 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:21:19 -0400
Subject: Which question should Leaky ask Jo Rowling on July 16?
References: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001801c57ff3$a7121dd0$6600a8c0@phil>

Which question should Leaky ask Jo Rowling on July 16?
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#vote

1. Do memories stored in a Pensieve reflect reality or the views of the
person to which they belong? - theotherhermit

2. You said there would be no need for more than seven books; if you've read
the questions and seen the level of detail fans put into their submission to
this
contest, do you still maintain that your fans will have all the information
they want by the end? - PennyL

3. Would you be willing to publish the character backgrounds and childhoods
you've written if your fans asked you to do so? - Apikei

4. Who else was present in Godric's Hollow the night when Harry's parents
died?- Mystique

5. Is a soul really lost forever after a dementor's kiss, and will we ever
see the destruction of a dementor? - FlyontheWall

6. What else does Lucius Malfoy have of Voldemort's old school things, and
how did he get them? - Malka

7. How and when was the veil made? - hpmons

8. Is there a connection between the Snitch, Godric's Hollow, and James's
Bloodline? - Cat got your tongue

9. What is the significance, if any, of the gum wrappers Mrs. Longbottom
keeps giving to Neville? - RedMane

10. Did James and Lily's parents die or were they killed? - Jenne

Vote




From empooress at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 16:59:01 2005
From: empooress at yahoo.com (Kim McGibony)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <1120394442.666.94676.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703165901.82778.qmail@web52102.mail.yahoo.com>


 From: "Karen Barker" <karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk>

Hi!

Haven't been here for a while as went on holiday then took ages 
catching up with the main thread.  The following things have 
actually happened in the last week or so, so I thought I'd share 
them and ask others to post their similar observances!

You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....

<major snippage>
Karen


when.. your friends seeing you read OotP for the umptennth time, ask" Haven't you already read that??" And your reply is "yeah about a dozen times but I may have missed something so I'm reading it again"

Ok I'll confesss..... when you've spent several hours creating a Harry potter database crossreferncing all the charecters in the books and including infomation like eye color and lenght of fingers etc etc

"I shouldn' have told ya that"

Empooress

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From anurim at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 18:55:15 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da6njc+v03o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703185515.21032.qmail@web32610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In my experience, you know when you're obsessed with
HP when you:

- refer to somebody's bouts of depression as 'spells
in Askaban' and of best friend or dearest hobby as
'patronus' (as in: 'would you be my patronus?',
generating of wide-eyed apprehension).

- smile idiotically and nod with unsupressed
meaningfullness whenever the date of July 16th is
mentioned, or tend to divide one's life in 'before
July 16' and 'after July 16'. The sad truth is, most
people just don't realise what a history-making date
July 16 2005 is (but if you have trouble facing it, as
I do, delusions are quite recommended).

- refer to one's ex as 'he who must not be named' or
'a true Slytherin'.

- spend the best part of the last few hours trying to
put together a theory that would unify Percy's work on
cauldron bottom sizes and Neville's strange ability to
melt cauldrons. Could it be that Mrs Longbottom is
buying Neville's school supplies from unregulated
providers? Old chums, perhaps? Does the bubble gum
originate from the same shop? Is the shop on Diagon
Alley or Knockturn Alley, perhaps? I don't mean
ESE!Grandmother, after all shopkeepers are allowed to
make a living whichever way their business takes them.

Mira

--- Karen Barker <karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Haven't been here for a while as went on holiday
> then took ages 
> catching up with the main thread.  The following
> things have 
> actually happened in the last week or so, so I
> thought I'd share 
> them and ask others to post their similar
> observances!
> 
> You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
> 
> 1)  You're flicking through the sunday newspapers
> when there's a 
> huge picture of some sort of eagle accompanying an
> article and you 
> take one look and immediately think "Buckbeak!".
> 
> 2)  You drive past an Estates Agent's board on a
> building giving the 
> name of the company as 'Sirius' and your heart
> leaps, then 
> immediately sinks.
> 
> 3)  You read a newspaper front page headline
> "Harry's girl flies in" 
> and you start thinking "Which girl?  Has someone
> revealed who his 
> new love-interest will be?" then you realise it's
> actually referring 
> to Prince Harry.
> 
> 4) Lastly, and most worryingly, you pick up your
> sleeping not-quite-
> five-year-old to transfer him from your bed back to
> his own and he 
> mumbles in his sleep "Harry Potter, Dobby, Dobby".
> 
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





		
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From anurim at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 19:30:00 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed/sorting and houses
In-Reply-To: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050703193000.26608.qmail@web32610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Mira <anurim at yahoo.com> wrote:

> In my experience, you know when you're obsessed with
> HP when you:
>
> - refer to one's ex as 'he who must not be named' or
> 'a true Slytherin'.

Sorry to reply to my own message, and sorry if this
post doesn't really belong here, but I've just
realised that, subconsciously, I 'sort' all people I
know in houses! Only two minutes ago I've caught
myself thinking about a new workmate and his
loyalties, and telling myself spontaneously: 'Well,
he'll be a Ravenclaw really, not a Gryffindor - this
explains a lot'. It is great to see the world like
this because it helps not to expect too much of
anybody and become disappointed; we all have
limitations, and nothing can be hidden from the
Sorting Hat. Does anybody else have similar
experiences? And, well, yes, I suppose it does count
as a sign of being obsessed with HP.

Also, I cannot find the post in which somebody
proposed that Hagrid's role as the Keeper of the Keys
will have more significance in later books. I would
really, really fancy the idea of the Sorting Hat
retiring and Hagrid's spirit somehow taking his place.
We have seen many hints of Hagrid not only being pure
at heart but also quite perceptive about people.

What do you think? Grawp for the sorting, anybody?

Mira


		
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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 20:37:21 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:37:21 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <20050703185515.21032.qmail@web32610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <da6njc+v03o@eGroups.com>
	 <20050703185515.21032.qmail@web32610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005070313375ff8a1f8@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/3/05, Mira <anurim at yahoo.com> wrote:
> In my experience, you know when you're obsessed with
> HP when you:

I've got an HP desktop thing from Scholastic on my eMac at work, and
when July arrived, I was amused to see July 16th in purple.  In
general, I'm amused by the green (the allegedly 'horny' color) and
purple (remember Tinky Winky supposedly being 'gay' because its
purple) color theme of HBP. [insert some gay Lupin jokes here]

Though, not as amused at the coincidence of past rumoured HP6 titles
involving 'Green Torch' and 'Pillar of Storge' when some of the HBP
covers do have aspects of these rumours.

I'm excited.  I called Borders yesterday to confirm my preorder and I
didn't have to say *which book*--I just said confirm a preorder--and
the employee automatically went to HBP.  If possible, I'd like to see
what Barnes&Noble is doing too.

Dina



From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul  3 20:51:55 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:51:55 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <20050703165901.82778.qmail@web52102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <da9j5b+v654@eGroups.com>

Empooress wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27805 :

<< You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....

when you've spent several hours creating a Harry potter database
crossreferncing all the charecters in the books and including
infomation like eye color and lenght of fingers etc etc >>

It would be extremely generous of you to make to make your database
available to the fandom, perhaps offering to the Lexicon if they want
 to host it, or putting it in the Database Section of this Y!group.





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Sun Jul  3 23:26:31 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:26:31 -0000
Subject: Abuse at Gitmo: The Depths of Depravity
In-Reply-To: <da6efo+uh3i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <da9s77+gckl@eGroups.com>

Caius Marcius wrote:

> No doubt, the woman was reading from Book Five, and giving away 
all 
> kind of spoilers. No wonder the poor terro, oops, I meant detainee 
> had to hold his hands over his ears!

Or perhaps reading her own fanfiction?

> What next? Will our military hire dementors as prison guards? 
Force 
> prisoners to drink Veritaserum? Or use the Imperio curse on them? 
> 
> Oh, the humanity.....

Well, they could get JKR in to give roguish answers to detainees' 
questions:

"Will I ever get out of here?"
"Oh, well thought of!  You'll find out in Book 7"

etc.

David





From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Mon Jul  4 01:27:36 2005
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:27:36 -0400
Subject: OFF-TOPIC - 'Atlanta Nights'
In-Reply-To: <da7ppk+pa6r@eGroups.com>
References: <42C71776.11574.C8C4AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <42C85848.857.CAF4D1@localhost>

On 3 Jul 2005 at 4:32, Marilyn Peake wrote:

> 
> Hi, Tammy,
> 
> I notice that you have a quote from "Atlanta Nights" by Travis Tea, 
> the book that was written as a prime example of everything not to do 
> in writing a book. I love the story behind how and why that book was 
> actually written!!!! :)
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Marilyn

Yeah, it's just about the funniest thing I've ever read.  The backstory only makes it 
funnier!  :-)

For those who might not have heard of 'Atlanta Nights' by Travis Tea (hint - say that 
name fast), it's a real book, written over a weekend at a writer's convention, as a 
sting against an online publishing group which claimed to have high standards for 
the works they bought, but would actually buy any piece of crap that came down the 
pike.  'Atlanta Nights' was written as badly as these pro writers could manage, just to 
prove this publishing house was lying.  The writers got together, bashed out a list of 
characters, each with a vague history ('Bruce was in a car wreck' is an example of 
the extent of these pasts, actually), and picked a chapter or two each to write, and 
then broke up and wrote their chapters without discussing them with the others.  
There is NO continuity (Isadore changes gender twice, for example), the writing is 
the worst I've ever found, spelling and grammatical errors abound, and it's all done 
that way ON PURPOSE!  :-)  So, they put the chapters in order, banged out another 
one by having a computer program chose words from the other chapters and put it 
in order that way, and sent it out to this publishing house with such high standards, 
and they BOUGHT it!  Heee heeee!

Anyway, a search for 'Atlanta Nights' might eventually get you the free online PDF 
version, or you can actually order a bound hardcopy through Lulu.com (NOT the 
publishers in question, btw), the proceeds of which go to a writers' health fund, 
whatever that is . . . .  However you get your copy, it is well worth the read!  It's like 
'Plan Nine from Outer Space' -- so bad it's good!  At least, this time, its badness was 
intentional.  ;-D

***
Tammy Rizzo
ms-tamany at rcn.com

What were you in your pants that was still pining over and went to the
businessman?
          -- 'Atlanta Nights', by Travis Tea (chapter 34)



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 03:38:43 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:38:43 -0400
Subject: Wardrobe in Resident Evil: Apocalypse
Message-ID: <1a27384005070320381ada8b61@mail.gmail.com>

I'm currently watching Resident Evil and wondering how Alice manages
to keep the lower leg portion of her trousers from falling around her
ankle when it looks like it's completely severed from the rest of her
trousers at the knee area.

Also, gotta grin over hoping this 'trained' military chick, Jill (?),
doesn't get killed because she provides 'eye candy' as she's fighting
zombies in a tube top and short shorts. {g}

Dina



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 04:23:44 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:23:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050704042344.53675.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com>



> ~You have an irrational fondness for your
> Hewlett-Packard printer.
> 

*pats HP printer tenderly*

Yup, that would be me. 

Oh, and does the fact that I have cat named Purr C.
count? <vbg>

Sheryll

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From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 08:29:43 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:29:43 -0000
Subject: OFF-TOPIC - 'Atlanta Nights'
In-Reply-To: <42C85848.857.CAF4D1@localhost>
Message-ID: <daas1n+sps8@eGroups.com>

Tammy and Marilyn,
  Many thanks for the link.  That whole thing was hilarious. The 
scenario, I mean; I couldn't stand reading the whole book!  What fun.
I've always thought fantasy/scifi authors got a bad rap when there 
is so much genuine trash out.

-Andromeda




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tammy Rizzo" <ms-
tamany at r...> wrote:
> On 3 Jul 2005 at 4:32, Marilyn Peake wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi, Tammy,
> > 
> > I notice that you have a quote from "Atlanta Nights" by Travis 
Tea, 
> > the book that was written as a prime example of everything not 
to do 
> > in writing a book. I love the story behind how and why that book 
was 
> > actually written!!!! :)
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > Marilyn
> 
> Yeah, it's just about the funniest thing I've ever read.  The 
backstory only makes it 
> funnier!  :-)
> 
>> ***
> Tammy Rizzo
> ms-tamany at r...
> 
> What were you in your pants that was still pining over and went to 
the
> businessman?
>           -- 'Atlanta Nights', by Travis Tea (chapter 34)





From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 11:09:32 2005
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:09:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
Message-ID: <20050704110933.27960.qmail@web54502.mail.yahoo.com>

Sheryll wrote:

"...Oh, and does the fact that I have cat named Purr C.
count? <vbg>"

Paula now:

Yes, Sheryll, that definitely counts!  I have Minerva, a beautiful Tabby, very proper, you understand, and Norris!

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From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 14:34:25 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <20050704042344.53675.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050704143425.30958.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


...you are going through a guide book, looking for places to take your mother-in-law and see an attraction called Snape Sculptures and your first thought is that you didn't know that Snape was artistic.

 

Lynn

(the sculptures are apparently in a town called Snape Maltings in the East of England)


 

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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 14:35:13 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:35:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
Message-ID: <2b.76546dfe.2ffaa321@aol.com>

How about when you spend every free minute at work looking for Harry Potter  
essays on your computer, then printing them out to read for lunch. :)
 
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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 14:37:23 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:37:23 -0000
Subject: Happy 4th of July
Message-ID: <dabhj3+pmh8@eGroups.com>

Now as we are all going for parades, picnics and fireworks, our friends 
from the U.K. and elsewhere can talk about us. ;-) 

Just in case there is not much going on here today you will know where 
we are. (Hope no one is offended by this.)





From marilynpeake at cs.com  Mon Jul  4 17:08:29 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:08:29 -0000
Subject: OFF-TOPIC - 'Atlanta Nights'
In-Reply-To: <daas1n+sps8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dabqed+9nrg@eGroups.com>

Hi, Andromeda,

Did I ever post the link for the page on lulu.com where the book is 
being sold?  Lulu.com isn't the publishing house that is being 
spoofed; they simply agreed to publish the work for what it is: a bad 
book written that way on purpose.  Here's the page on lulu.com ... 
and the readers' comments are just as hilarious as the book idea 
itself:
http://www.lulu.com/content/102550

Best Wishes,
Marilyn

~~ Drink deeply by land or sea. Earth comes only once.~~
>From THE FISHERMAN'S SON Trilogy 
http://www.marilynpeake.com
http://www.thefishermansson.com

>From PIERS ANTHONY, best-selling, award-winning science fiction and 
fantasy author:
"Now I have read The Fisherman's Son.  This is a nice children's 
fantasy, grounded in realism."

>From JAMES A. COX, Editor-in-Chief of the MIDWEST BOOK REVIEW:
"The Fisherman's Son is a delightful and colorfully narrated tale 
which documents Marilyn Peake as a story teller of considerable 
narrative skill."

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Andromeda" <lavaluvn at y...> 
wrote:
>> Tammy and Marilyn,
>>   Many thanks for the link.  That whole thing was hilarious. The 
> scenario, I mean; I couldn't stand reading the whole book!  What 
fun.  I've always thought fantasy/scifi authors got a bad rap when 
there is so much genuine trash out.






From phil at pcsgames.net  Mon Jul  4 17:08:34 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:08:34 -0400
Subject: Whiz-Bangs.
References: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com> <001801c57ff3$a7121dd0$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <010901c580bb$06c2b330$6600a8c0@phil>

Hi Folks,
To celebrate the American Forth of July holiday,
click on a box of Whiz-Bangs.
http://www.pcsgames.net/Whiz-Bangs.mp3
It is about 300 K in size.
Enjoy.
Phil




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Mon Jul  4 19:01:46 2005
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:01:46 -0000
Subject: "Accio Day Members!"
Message-ID: <dac12q+575i@eGroups.com>

Due to popular demand, Accio is pleased to announce that on Saturday 
30th July it will be opening its doors to all interested adults.

Day tickets for Accio will be valid from 9am to 6pm.  During this 
time, you will be able to join the conference and therefore have the 
opportunity to listen to presentations, pester panelists, and talk 
about Harry Potter with other like-minded people.

Included in the ?75 admission fee will be the Accio welcome pack, a 
CD copy of the conference proceedings together with mid-morning and 
afternoon tea and coffee and a sandwich lunch.  

Day members may also wish to stay for the Feast.  Please direct all 
enquiries about this to register at accio.org.uk

Creative Writing Events

We have important information for all those budding authors out 
there.

Accio members are invited to enter an original short story 
competition, which will be judged by conference delegates.  For 
details, please see http://www.accio.org.uk/competition.shtml.

Elizabeth Kay, author of The Divide trilogy, has kindly agreed to 
run a Creative Writing Workshop during Accio, in addition to her 
keynote presentation.  The Workshop is entitled "Writing for Other 
People's Children".  Places are very limited, so please register 
your interest as soon as possible by writing to 
submissions at accio.org.uk (or whichever e-mail address)

Accio UK is the first conference of its kind in the UK and will be 
held at Reading University from July 29th-31st 2005.  It is an 
unofficial, non-profit making, friendly event that will bring 
together academics and adult Harry Potter fans to discuss all 
aspects of J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series.

Please note that day tickets must be purchased in advance.

For further information please see our website: 
http://www.accio.org.uk. 

Details of how to register can be found here: 
http://www.accio.org.uk/registration.shtml


This conference is an unofficial event and is not endorsed or 
sanctioned by Warner Bros., the Harry Potter book publishers or J.K. 
Rowling and her representatives



















From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 20:52:47 2005
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:52:47 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <000e01c31ca9$3cc94520$6501a8c0@MFD>
Message-ID: <dac7iv+otfg@eGroups.com>

--- "Meg Demeranville" <mdemeran at h...> wrote:

> Yes, some days, I scare myself.

Me too!  It seems when it comes time to name a pet, the first names
that come to me are those of HP characters!  At one time last year, we
had ten such pets.  They were mice.  Harry and Hermione were the first
two -- Young'un insisted they were a boy and a girl despite the people
at the pet store telling us they were both female.  He was right,
because a few months later Hermione gave birth to Minerva, Lily,
Hagrid, James, and Albus.  I eventually split up the boys and girls,
but Harry was too quick for me.  Hermione's second litter included
Bella, Trixie, and Sirius (as well as Squeakers and Lovely).  Mice
have regrettably short lifespans, so only Hagrid, Lily, and Squeakers
remain with us today.

--snazzzybird





From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 22:50:31 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:50:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy 4th of July
In-Reply-To: <dabhj3+pmh8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050704225031.32800.qmail@web53506.mail.yahoo.com>

I had to work 12 hours today but I made it home in time for the fireworks!!!
 
I have had a family member in every war starting with the Revolutionary War.  My family was kicked out of Ireland and sent to Georgia when it was still a penal colony because...well... we love horses... have always been a little on the poor side... and not very good at not getting caught!!!!
 
Have a great 4th!!!!!
 
moonmyyst  (who's family's surname before being kicked across the pond was O'Creighan)

Tonks <tonks_op at yahoo.com> wrote:
Now as we are all going for parades, picnics and fireworks, our friends 
from the U.K. and elsewhere can talk about us. ;-) 

Just in case there is not much going on here today you will know where 
we are. (Hope no one is offended by this.)




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From empooress at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  5 00:41:03 2005
From: empooress at yahoo.com (Kim McGibony)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <1120483921.617.13129.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050705004103.56389.qmail@web52107.mail.yahoo.com>


  From: "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at wicca.net>


Empooress wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27805 :

<< You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....

when you've spent several hours creating a Harry potter database
crossreferncing all the charecters in the books and including
infomation like eye color and lenght of fingers etc etc >>

It would be extremely generous of you to make to make your database
available to the fandom, perhaps offering to the Lexicon if they want
 to host it, or putting it in the Database Section of this Y!group.

 

 

Sure, I really didn't think about posting it somewhere. I can't do it right now as I'm not at home and it's on that 'putor. But I'll drop a note to the list elves and see if it would be better to post it on the main group or elsewhere. And the Lexicon might want it?? Imagine that, I finally fess up to doing that and someone's interested in it.......:p  I've got another one of all the various locations in the books, too. If I don't find anywhere to post it, I'll just offer to send it to any who would like to have them.

 

Oh yeah, and when..... You tell your brother that he's really lucky his birthday is on the 16th. He doesn't read Harry Potter.

Empooress


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Tue Jul  5 01:05:09 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:05:09 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
References: <dac7iv+otfg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005401c580fd$976b4cc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

<It seems when it comes time to name a
pet, the first names
that come to me are those of HP
characters!>

Since the beginning of reading HP I've
had: Draco (fish), Peter (kitten),
Neville (fish), Molly (kitten), Percy
(middle name of Strawberry Shortcake
the cat), Thomas (kitten)), and almost
named our new kitten "Voldemort"
(instead I switched fandoms and named
it Eiri-kun).

Since I have a variety of pets that
have been lost or died since I started
writing, only "Percy" and the "was
going to be Voldemort" is still with
us.

It's when you start naming children,
that you should be scared. *wink*

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 04:03:34 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:03:34 EDT
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
Message-ID: <8e.2a9a8886.2ffb6096@aol.com>

Kim McGibony empooress at yahoo.com writes:
Ok I'll confesss..... when  you've spent several hours creating a Harry 
potter database crossreferncing all  the characters in the books and including 
infomation like eye color and lenght  of fingers etc
 
I write: 
I'm working on a HP CD/DVD index. The section titles are:
 
1. Introduction
2. Movie Soundtrack listings; one page per movie
3. Audio book disk/track/chapter index for SS
4. Audio book disk....COS
5. Audio book disk....POA
6. Audio book disk....GOF
7. Audio book disk....OOP
8. Audio book disk....HBP
9. Audio book disk....book 7
10. Notes and articles about the production of the audio books.
 
The notebook is half sheet size (5.5 x 8.5). Pages are decorated with  
stickers or rubber stamps plus handwritten notes (in green ink), The binder is a  
recycled computer manual and will need to be decorated also. 
 
It's been a fun project with it's occasional tedious aspect (popping the  CDs 
in the computer, capturing the disk/track/chapter information, pasting it  
into Excel, then printing). The fun part is adding my own notes about what is  
happening on which disk/track. And for me, of course, adding rubber stamps,  
stickers, drawing, writing...
 
This project is also taking a while as I rarely listen to more than one CD  
of an audio book in a day. Still, it is fun and a satisfying way to end the  
day.
 
I just decided to add the DVDs to the book but probably won't get to them  
until after September.
 
---Mary, wondering once again why movie soundtrack albums aren't arranged  in 
movie story order



From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 10:05:21 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:05:21 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <005401c580fd$976b4cc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <dadm11+g55o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> 
> It's when you start naming children,
> that you should be scared. *wink*
> 
> Saitaina
> ****
> "I like kids in theory...it's the
> practice I'm having trouble with."


Ohh don't laugh or wink, but I'm a midwife and yesterday I caught a 
lovely couple's fifth baby.  When I asked about a middle name (only out 
of interest because we had been talking about middle names earlier in 
the day) they told me in all seriousness that it was going to be 
Anakin ...

Sarah xx





From mcleanaliz at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 10:33:40 2005
From: mcleanaliz at gmail.com (alice_loves_cats)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:33:40 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <da95i8+t8lc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dadnm4+4f9b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> ~You have an irrational fondness for your Hewlett-Packard printer.
> 
> Yes, this is me.  Oh and HP sauce - it's delicious on cheese on toast!!

I even had a boyfriend with the initials HP.
Although I liked him for other reasons as well. :)))

> No, the worst one is worrying that if I had a pet dog would calling it 
> Sirius would be regarded as pretentious, (but perhaps better than 
> calling a pet wolf Remus!)

It would be regarded as pretentious, but I'd do it anyway.
Unfortunately, no chance of a dog in the middle of the city, it's even
a bit hard on cats.
Love, Alice





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jul  5 11:49:53 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:49:53 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <dadnm4+4f9b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dads51+fs93@eGroups.com>

We got an email at work yesterday (I work in a hospital) asking for 
donations to the tombola stall at another hospital's annual fair which 
is taking place on, you guessed it, 16th July.  I blurted out "Oh my 
God, Kingsway's fair on on the 16th July, no one will be there they'll 
all be at home reading the new Harry Potter book" and the other two 
people in the office just looked at me like I'd just stepped out of a 
space ship or something!

Karen







From mcleanaliz at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 16:58:40 2005
From: mcleanaliz at gmail.com (alice_loves_cats)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:58:40 -0000
Subject: Aaaaawwww
Message-ID: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>

I'm going to a Potter Party (thx to www.potterparties.com) in
Budapest, and have been signed up for it for a long time. It's at an
English (or rather, foreign) language book shop called Bookstation.
They're going to sell the book dirt-cheap, so I figured it would make
sense to go, even though I have my doubts about participating in
launch parties for, uhm, kid's books, having reached the towering and
impressive age of twenty-two. 

But they keep sending me e-mails, and they're just so sweet about it!
It's all friendly and jokey and gamey... it's really beginning to feel
like I'm invited to a friend's birthday party. I now feel something of
a git/snob for having planned on arriving at half past twelve (the
books are to be sold at 1 a.m. which is midnight in England) and
looking snooty and cool.

I feel tempted to, er, actually go. In a way. A little bit. I might
even take a broom. Or something.

Today they sent me something called "The Marauder's Map" which
actually shows where the shop is located, complete with funny remarks.
Nothing terribly original, I assure you, but what makes it really good
is the apparent amateurness (I bet there's no such word, sorry) of it
all. This map has been drawn by some enthusiastic person with a bunch
of felt-tip pens. This enthusiastic person has obviously invested lots
of thought in the map, and produced something slightly resembling the
treasure-hunting maps my friends and I drew at the age of ten. 

The TICKET to get into the party is a text-box in Microsoft Word, and
I have to print it out. It involves italics and a crafty font that
most of us probably used for our very first homepage. 

I can't get over this. They're so cute. I am going to have to go to
this party. I'm going to have to play Activity and do various quizzes.
I'm going to have to look at owls and snakes borrowed from the
Budapest Zoo (yep, really :)) in a faux Care of Magical Creatures
lesson. I'm going to have to take my friend along. This is irresistable.

:)))

Sorry for being such an absolute snob. In fact I'm one of those sad
people who want to be cool and then end up falling in love with books
like Harry Potter. :)))

If there's anyone on this list from Bookstation, I wanna say: you're
great, you rule. See you on the fifteenth!

Love, Alice





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 19:42:45 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:42:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>
References: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005070512427ef0dc21@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/5/05, alice_loves_cats <mcleanaliz at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm going to a Potter Party (thx to www.potterparties.com) in
> Budapest, and have been signed up for it for a long time. It's at an

Cool beans!  I'm 'crashing' Barnes&Noble's Midnight Magic for
Clearwater, FL (off of US19 and not far from the former 'Virgin Mary'
on glass building), but hey, no pre-order is needed to attend.  Then
I'm hopping over to Borders at Clearwater Mall to see what they're
doing and to pick-up my pre-order and speck out their midnight event
as well.  Both stores are close to where I work.


> sense to go, even though I have my doubts about participating in
> launch parties for, uhm, kid's books, having reached the towering and
> impressive age of twenty-two.

I share the sentiments and I'm twenty-seven, which is why I'll
probably only pop in for a short visit.  That and it's late. :-\

Dina



From griffinclaw at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 18:56:38 2005
From: griffinclaw at comcast.net (mantoinettewood)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:56:38 -0000
Subject: Great site!
Message-ID: <dael56+d1on@eGroups.com>

Bon jour, hello! 
I'm not trying to interrupt any of the wonderful
conversations going on right now, but I must tell you to go to 
www.hermionegranger.us. (For those of you that love her, or hate her!) 
Drop us a line, post on the forum (easy as 1-2-3!) and most
importantly read our pet theories and articles! It's a wonderful way 
to connect with the Wizarding World before the upcoming (10 more
days!) Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. I know I have my 
copy 
reserved! just visit www.hermionegranger.us for new opinions and
out-of-this world conjecture!
 
Merci, thankyou!
Morgana Antoinette Wood








From seven_uk03 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  5 19:04:41 2005
From: seven_uk03 at hotmail.com (Sarah)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:04:41 -0000
Subject: Any truth in this?
Message-ID: <daelk9+aoe6@eGroups.com>

Hi, new person here! I found the following article posted on 
www.hprama.co.uk (?). Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in 
this? I was set on buying my own little castle and grounds after my 
masters and setting up my own role-play summer school. But if they 
are going through with this then there doesn't seem to be much 
point! :(   
 
(folds arms and stomps off in a sulk)


>>>Harry Potter theme park in store?  
Posted by JAMES
Source: Screamscape via The Leaky Cauldron 
 
Information garnered from an open lunchtime meeting between Bob 
Gault and the staff of Disney may have revealed that Disney is in a 
preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park. Gault 
revealed that the Potter theme park has been completed as a  rough 
draft and the Disney staff is now looking into building a 
Lord of the Rings-oriented park....it seems the head of Universal 
Orlando was having an open Q&A lunch session with his staff a few 
weeks ago when he was asked if Universal had any plans to pursue 
either the Harry Potter franchise or Lord of the Rings for possible 
future park projects. Bob Gault's answer was that "Disney has Harry 
Potter wrapped up" and that Universal was instead checking into Lord 
of the Rings.<<<






From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jul  5 20:57:57 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:57:57 -0000
Subject: Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <1a27384005070512427ef0dc21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daes8l+g9cn@eGroups.com>

> On 7/5/05, alice_loves_cats <mcleanaliz at g...> wrote:
> > I'm going to a Potter Party (thx to www.potterparties.com) in
> > Budapest, and have been signed up for it for a long time. <snip> 
> > even though I have my doubts about participating in
> > launch parties for, uhm, kid's books, having reached the 
> > towering and impressive age of twenty-two. 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Dina Lerret <bunniqula at g...> 
wrote:
> Cool beans!  I'm 'crashing' Barnes&Noble's Midnight Magic for
> Clearwater, FL (off of US19 and not far from the former 'Virgin 
Mary' on glass building), but hey, no pre-order is needed to 
attend.  Then  I'm hopping over to Borders at Clearwater Mall to see 
what they're  doing and to pick-up my pre-order and speck out their 
midnight event as well.  Both stores are close to where I work.
 
> I share the sentiments and I'm twenty-seven, which is why I'll
> probably only pop in for a short visit.  That and it's late. :-\

Children, really!  I'm nearly 42 and believe me if I can find a 
Potter party anywhere near where I'm going to be that night (which 
unfortunately isn't looking promising at the moment) wild horses 
couldn't keep me from it!

Karen





From joseph at kirtland.com  Tue Jul  5 23:21:17 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:21:17 -0000
Subject: United Package Shredders
Message-ID: <daf4ld+tqui@eGroups.com>

UPS (United Package Shredders) delivered my Half-Blood Prince
Countdown Standee today.  I was initially so excited, looking forward
to setting up the display with the other items of my HP collection.

This standee was NEW IN BOX.  It had never been opened.  UPS sure did
their number on it, though.  The standee comes in a flat box similar
to what you would ship a piece of artwork in, and its box is perfectly
suitable for shipping.  However, it had been folded, mutilated, torn,
and punctured.  The standee is ruined.  The caricatures of Harry and
Dumbledore - similar to that of the book cover have been folded to the
point of being ready to tear, and even the 50 day countdown calendar
is torn!

Needless to say, I'm miffed! (Mild word!)  I've started the claim with
UPS, but the downside is this item has no real monetary value - it
just has its collectable value to a collector.  I've also e-mailed the
nice person on eBay that I bought the standee from letting him know of
the  beginning claims process.

I have had several bad experiences with UPS.  I will never voluntarily
use their service to ship an item to someone.  I have never had a bad
experience with the US Postal Service - my personal shipper of choice.

Joe






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 00:41:10 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:41:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] United Package Shredders
In-Reply-To: <daf4ld+tqui@eGroups.com>
References: <daf4ld+tqui@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005070517416c0b1be6@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/5/05, Joe Bento <joseph at kirtland.com> wrote:

> I have had several bad experiences with UPS.  I will never voluntarily
> use their service to ship an item to someone.

I haven't had much of a bad experience via UPS (shipped payroll checks
all over the US every week for eight and a half years) but I haven't
shipped anything with UPS that couldn't withstand me sitting on the
package a few... or several times and then kicking it like a soccer
ball across the office floor.


>  I have never had a bad
> experience with the US Postal Service - my personal shipper of choice.
> 

Heh, it's probably because my personal stuff, including fandom
collector junk...stuff, was mostly shipped via USPS that I've had some
questionable instances with them.

There's probably some Murphy Law involving: the more 'valuable' a
package, the more likely it's going to get beaten.

I can totally sympathize on your UPS shipping.

As to FedEx, best way to ship marijuana is via FedEx... in airtight
bags surrounded by cedar to throw off dogs.  I knew this gal and she
had Jamaican connections and they knew how to package the stuff for
shipping.

Dina



From jferer at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 01:43:23 2005
From: jferer at yahoo.com (Jim Ferer)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:43:23 -0000
Subject: Any truth in this?
In-Reply-To: <daelk9+aoe6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dafcvr+8e8h@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <seven_uk03 at h...> wrote:
> Hi, new person here! I found the following article posted on 
> www.hprama.co.uk (?). Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in 
> this? I was set on buying my own little castle and grounds after my 
> masters and setting up my own role-play summer school. But if they 
> are going through with this then there doesn't seem to be much 
> point! :(   
>  
> (folds arms and stomps off in a sulk)
> 
> 
> >>>Harry Potter theme park in store?  
> Posted by JAMES
> Source: Screamscape via The Leaky Cauldron 
>  
> Information garnered from an open lunchtime meeting between Bob 
> Gault and the staff of Disney may have revealed that Disney is in a 
> preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park. Gault 
> revealed that the Potter theme park has been completed as a  rough 
> draft and the Disney staff is now looking into building a 
> Lord of the Rings-oriented park....it seems the head of Universal 
> Orlando was having an open Q&A lunch session with his staff a few 
> weeks ago when he was asked if Universal had any plans to pursue 
> either the Harry Potter franchise or Lord of the Rings for possible 
> future park projects. Bob Gault's answer was that "Disney has Harry 
> Potter wrapped up" and that Universal was instead checking into Lord 
> of the Rings.<<<

I think it would be the first time Disney undertook any project that
involved paying royalties to someone else.  They've generally avoided
that, including paying royalties they were supposed to pay. Disney has
a long and tawdry record of stiffing artists.





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 03:41:17 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:41:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050706034117.71479.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com>

Alice wrote:
 
...edit...
:)))

Sorry for being such an absolute snob. In fact I'm one of those sad
people who want to be cool and then end up falling in love with books like Harry Potter. :)))

Kemper now:
 
Who says reading Harry Potter isn't cool?  I make that geek-shit look bad-ass!  
 
Sounds like you'll have a fun time in Budapest.  I'll be kickin' it at my local Powell's Book Store, eating some Ben & Jerry's from down the street... Half-Baked is so yummy.

		
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Wed Jul  6 03:51:03 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:51:03 -0000
Subject: Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <20050706034117.71479.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dafkf7+ts17@eGroups.com>

That reminds me of a pencil drawing I once saw.  I don't know the 
artist or a link, but the drawing showed Harry, Ron, and Hermione in a 
very "punk" manner of dress, very unlike any other reference I've seen 
to their appearance.

Joe
 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, kemper mentor 
<kempermentor at y...> wrote:

> Who says reading Harry Potter isn't cool?  I make that geek-shit 
look bad-ass!  
>  
> Sounds like you'll have a fun time in Budapest.  I'll be kickin' it 
at my local Powell's Book Store, eating some Ben & Jerry's from down 
the street... Half-Baked is so yummy.
> 






From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Wed Jul  6 04:01:07 2005
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 04:01:07 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <005401c580fd$976b4cc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <dafl23+v6qj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> 
wrote:
> <It seems when it comes time to name a
> pet, the first names
> that come to me are those of HP
> characters!>
> 
> Since the beginning of reading HP I've
> had: Draco (fish), Peter (kitten),
> Neville (fish), Molly (kitten), Percy
> (middle name of Strawberry Shortcake
> the cat), Thomas (kitten)), and almost
> named our new kitten "Voldemort"
> (instead I switched fandoms and named
> it Eiri-kun).
> 
> Since I have a variety of pets that
> have been lost or died since I started
> writing, only "Percy" and the "was
> going to be Voldemort" is still with
> us.
> 

The most recent addition to our feline menagerie is Wally Voldemort 
Jones (who apparently was named by committee). Since Star Wars III, 
the DH has been calling him Darth Jonesy, but he will be back using 
his HP moniker in just a few days, I expect.
MsTattersall







From lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul  6 12:08:12 2005
From: lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk (Sandra)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:08:12 -0000
Subject: Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daghjc+on5n@eGroups.com>

 "alice_loves_cats" <mcleanaliz at g...> wrote:
> I'm going to a Potter Party (thx to www.potterparties.com) 

thanks very much for the link, your party sounds terrific, I hope 
you have a lot of fun.

I am in Germany and I have preorderd the book through Amazon, but I 
feel the frenzy inside building up, and I am very much tempted to go 
to a party - and there will be only this one and one more anyway!

So I have checked out the site and although not really close, there 
are 3 places which are feasable...will see, would have to cancel my 
order too.

But the thought of amazon messing up the delivery has haunted me for 
a couple of days...

and on a side note, I too have divided my time in 'before book-
release' and 'after' and have refused to arrange anything else in 
the days following the release, and pre-warned most of my friends 
that I will most likely be completly unavailable or if so will have 
only one thing which I would like to talk about...and most of the 
time that has caused many raised eybrows, but there you go.

Sandra





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 13:37:41 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:37:41 -0000
Subject: Any truth in this?
In-Reply-To: <dafcvr+8e8h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dagmr5+uc58@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ferer" <jferer at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <seven_uk03 at h...> wrote:
> > Hi, new person here! I found the following article posted on 
> > www.hprama.co.uk (?). Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in 
> > this? I was set on buying my own little castle and grounds after my 
> > masters and setting up my own role-play summer school. But if they 
> > are going through with this then there doesn't seem to be much 
> > point! :(   
> >  
> > (folds arms and stomps off in a sulk)
> > 
> > 
> > >>>Harry Potter theme park in store?  
> > Posted by JAMES
> > Source: Screamscape via The Leaky Cauldron 
> >  
> > Information garnered from an open lunchtime meeting between Bob 
> > Gault and the staff of Disney may have revealed that Disney is in a 
> > preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park.
<snip>
> 
> I think it would be the first time Disney undertook any project that
> involved paying royalties to someone else.  They've generally avoided
> that, including paying royalties they were supposed to pay. Disney has
> a long and tawdry record of stiffing artists.


"Screamscape via The Leaky Cauldron"?

I always read the Leaky, and I never saw this there.  However, it is
vaguely similar to an article that the Leaky reported on some time
back, that the people who brought you the Rainforest Cafe were
brainstorming new ideas for other themed restaurants, including an HP
one.  That article had come from a business periodical or site.

The rumor was debunked on the Leaky, also.

I wouldn't believe this for a minute.  Go ahead and make your plans,
Sarah (including how you're going to deal with Warner Bros.).

Annemehr






From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 16:09:22 2005
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:09:22 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <dafl23+v6qj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dagvni+fdsf@eGroups.com>

Oh dear, I was having fun reading these, but didn't think I would have 
anything to contribute. Then today began...

I have a 19 month old son. He turned on the tv this morning, and 
Barney was on. (I don't like that stupid dinosaur, but he makes my son 
giggle.) Anyway, Barney and the kids were singing "Pop Goes the 
Weasel." I started singing along-I didn't even think about it---until 
I realized that I was singing "Pop Goes the Kneazle." Dear Lord, I 
think I need help.

-Barb





From bumbledore at comcast.net  Wed Jul  6 03:09:21 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:09:21 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Any truth in this?
References: <dafcvr+8e8h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001701c581d8$1b6cc780$8d4eac43@cauldron1>

Well, if those theme parks become as expensive as Disney, I for one, will
not be attending.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ferer" <jferer at yahoo.com>
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Any truth in this?


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <seven_uk03 at h...> wrote:
> > Hi, new person here! I found the following article posted on
> > www.hprama.co.uk (?). Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in
> > this? I was set on buying my own little castle and grounds after my
> > masters and setting up my own role-play summer school. But if they
> > are going through with this then there doesn't seem to be much
> > point! :(
> >
> > (folds arms and stomps off in a sulk)
> >
> >
> > >>>Harry Potter theme park in store?
> > Posted by JAMES
> > Source: Screamscape via The Leaky Cauldron
> >
> > Information garnered from an open lunchtime meeting between Bob
> > Gault and the staff of Disney may have revealed that Disney is in a
> > preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park. Gault
> > revealed that the Potter theme park has been completed as a  rough
> > draft and the Disney staff is now looking into building a
> > Lord of the Rings-oriented park....it seems the head of Universal
> > Orlando was having an open Q&A lunch session with his staff a few
> > weeks ago when he was asked if Universal had any plans to pursue
> > either the Harry Potter franchise or Lord of the Rings for possible
> > future park projects. Bob Gault's answer was that "Disney has Harry
> > Potter wrapped up" and that Universal was instead checking into Lord
> > of the Rings.<<<
>
> I think it would be the first time Disney undertook any project that
> involved paying royalties to someone else.  They've generally avoided
> that, including paying royalties they were supposed to pay. Disney has
> a long and tawdry record of stiffing artists.
>
>
>
>
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From bumbledore at comcast.net  Wed Jul  6 03:13:11 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:13:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] United Package Shredders
References: <daf4ld+tqui@eGroups.com> <1a27384005070517416c0b1be6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c581d8$a43a2440$8d4eac43@cauldron1>

Being one who lives in an apartment complex, I do my best to avoid UPS.
They have a habit of sticking notices outside the door, which get torn off
by the jerks who live in the same building, by unattended children, and by
the weather.

Several times I have come home to find Final notices - not having found the
first 3. Twice I caught the package at the local pick up place, calling to
have them remove it from the truck where it was being returned.

Plus, I have had UPS drop packages off (when I rented houses) in places neer
my door, without dropping me a note. On one occasion, I found the package 7
months later - in the garage, behind some car parts. Apparently the guy put
it on top of the parts, but it fell behind them, and I never looked because
I didn't know a shipment had been sent untill after I got the bill - which I
refused for non service.

Fed Ex requires a signature for all deliveries - UPS does not.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at gmail.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] United Package Shredders


> On 7/5/05, Joe Bento <joseph at kirtland.com> wrote:
>
> > I have had several bad experiences with UPS.  I will never voluntarily
> > use their service to ship an item to someone.
>
> I haven't had much of a bad experience via UPS (shipped payroll checks
> all over the US every week for eight and a half years) but I haven't
> shipped anything with UPS that couldn't withstand me sitting on the
> package a few... or several times and then kicking it like a soccer
> ball across the office floor.
>
>
> >  I have never had a bad
> > experience with the US Postal Service - my personal shipper of choice.
> >
>
> Heh, it's probably because my personal stuff, including fandom
> collector junk...stuff, was mostly shipped via USPS that I've had some
> questionable instances with them.
>
> There's probably some Murphy Law involving: the more 'valuable' a
> package, the more likely it's going to get beaten.
>
> I can totally sympathize on your UPS shipping.
>
> As to FedEx, best way to ship marijuana is via FedEx... in airtight
> bags surrounded by cedar to throw off dogs.  I knew this gal and she
> had Jamaican connections and they knew how to package the stuff for
> shipping.
>
> Dina
>
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From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 16:12:41 2005
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:12:41 EDT
Subject: Weasley Countdown Clock
Message-ID: <82.2b75201e.2ffd5cf9@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/1/2005 6:07:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com writes:

Joe said:
> >>"With all the seriousness of a career, and the very questionable 
> state of our world today, it's realy fun to have Harry Potter to 
> look forward to.  :-)"<<
> 

Now me:

Here, here Joe!  July 15th will feel very much like Christmas Eve to me this 
year.  :)




* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
"... and you have Luna, who is completely out to lunch, but fantastic.  I 
love Luna."
J.K. Rowling
Edinburg Book Festival, August 2004


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From plungy116 at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 18:09:43 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:09:43 -0000
Subject: United Package Shredders
In-Reply-To: <1a27384005070517416c0b1be6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dah6p7+iloh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Dina Lerret <bunniqula at g...> 
wrote:
> 
> As to FedEx, best way to ship marijuana is via FedEx... in airtight
> bags surrounded by cedar to throw off dogs.  I knew this gal and she
> had Jamaican connections and they knew how to package the stuff for
> shipping.

You know, I don't know anyone on this list in the personal sense, but I 
know one thing for sure - we can always rely on Dina for LOL gems like 
this!  (Then one sheepishly considers that maybe it's not meant to be a 
LOL moment and perhaps FedEx is the best way ...)

Sarah xx





From plungy116 at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 19:23:16 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:23:16 -0000
Subject: The Eyre Affair
Message-ID: <dahb34+l447@eGroups.com>

I can't remember who recommended Jasper Fforde in the first place, but 
it was defintely someone on this list - Thank you!  What a great read.  
I enjoyed it from cover to cover.

I have tried and failed to read Terry Pratchett's discworld - I can't 
just get into it.  I'm about 60 pages into Hitchhikers guide and that's 
really slow going and I have to read it in snatches, so I wasn't sure 
Fforde would be my kind of thing.  But I loved it.

Someone said it was the adults answer to Harry Potter (who?), and I 
think I would have to disagree with that, but it did hold my attention 
and encourage me to continue reading.

Just thought I'd share that

Sarah xx





From srbecca at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  6 20:09:39 2005
From: srbecca at hotmail.com (Rebecca Dreiling)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:09:39 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Eyre Affair
In-Reply-To: <dahb34+l447@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F246B49E15E56748657409AA8D90@phx.gbl>

Hey that was me..they are wicked books!  Yet another one turned to the 
Fforde side.  When I was a bookseller I used to get one like everyother day. 
  I just can't help myself when I like a book.

Rebecca

I agree with the Discworld thing.  I couldn't get into it, I tried though.


>
>





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 22:35:57 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:35:57 -0000
Subject: The Eyre Affair
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F246B49E15E56748657409AA8D90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <dahmcd+vhof@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Rebecca Dreiling"
<srbecca at h...> wrote:
> Hey that was me..they are wicked books!  Yet another one turned to the 
> Fforde side.  When I was a bookseller I used to get one like
everyother day. 
>   I just can't help myself when I like a book.
> 
> Rebecca
> 
> I agree with the Discworld thing.  I couldn't get into it, I tried
though.
> 

I had to give up on the Eyre Affair -- temporarily, at least.  I had
to read that one in snatches, which is no good when you're trying to
keep track of the obscure references and oblique allusions.  I finally
put it off until sometime when I can read it properly, as it seemed
too good to waste.

Annemehr

P.S. Apparently Fforde has a really good official website, too.






From paulag5777 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 07:59:28 2005
From: paulag5777 at yahoo.com (Paula Gaon)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:59:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Harry's Astrological Reading & More
Message-ID: <20050707075928.31125.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com>


Hello Everyone,

 

Yes, it's been a long time since I've posted; have been lurking, but now like everyone else, am waiting with baited breath for Half Blood Prince.

 

The one thing that really sticks in my mind was the end of Order of the Phoenix.  Remember the end, when Ron mentions a couple of times that they saw Uranus.  Can't help but think that this is JKR giving us a bit of foreshadowing.  Uranus is associated with sudden, swift and unexpected changes, progressiveness--it's the wildcard of all the planets.  So I did a little looking into my astrological charts, figured out Harry's chart and looked up the position of the planets at the beginning of the school year in Book 6.  I posted a few months ago Harry's chart, so this time, thought it would be fun to look at the influences our hero will be facing at the beginning of the school year.

 

To review a little, Harry's a Leo Sun, and Pisces Moon.  This combination is likely to be a very serious person with motives that are usually the highest.  Pisces is considered by most to be the most psychic of Moons.  (Harry's pretty close to a Grand Trine in water signs, too, but that's another story.)  So the confidence and majesty of Leo combined with the more regressive, psychic Pisces Moon give us out kind hearted, tuned in Harry.  Harry's natal Mercury is in Cancer, hence the intuitive and emotional mind that we know and love. Venus is in Gemini, generating the need for a variety of experiences and curiosity about people, as well as the need for intelligent company--Harry/Hermione Shippers love this one.  Unfortunately our hero may have a fatal flaw.  Moon and Saturn are opposing, possibly restricting the spontaneous flow of ideas and generating a bit of pessimism.  Remember that Moon also rules home, family and family traditions.  Harry has certainly known restrictions on
 this front!

 

On to the astrological influences at the beginning of the school year:  The first thing that stands out is the fact that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are all in retrograde, appear to be going backwards--not exactly calming influences.  At the beginning of Harry's sixth year, Uranus, the wildcard and up setter, was in the area of home, family, roots.  Could a major cataclysm be about to take place at the Dursleys?  Wouldn't it be a scream if Aunt Petunia decided she's had enough of her fat and fussy husband?  Or, better still, what if we were to find out that both Auntie and Dudley have been hiding magical powers all this time and that Dudley's such a bad boy due to Vernon's constant raging?  I really have a strong gut feeling that JKR is likely to give us a real surprise on the home front.  In addition, transit Uranus is very favorably aspected with Pluto, planet of power, possibly giving Harry surprising and sudden easement and lasting strength in several areas--love, higher
 studies, and possibly some good times without the chaos that Uranus can bring on.  Uranus' angle with Venus in Harry's natal chart could cause us to see a side of our hero that we've never seen before--can't wait!

 

Taking a look at transit Neptune, we see some interesting possibilities.  Neptune is the chameleon of the planets--rules dreams, wishes, hopes as well as illusions.  And in retrograde, logic can completely fall by the wayside.  However, creativity can get a real boost.  Neptune is at a very favorable angle with Harry's natal Moon; there's a strong possibility that he could be influenced strongly by a woman.  Normally, we'd be afraid of some sort of illusion here, but Neptune is also at a favorable angle with Harry's natal Saturn, which will have a very sobering effect on any possible illusions.

 

Finally, let's take a look at the transit influences on Harry's Sun, the essential star in any birth chart.  Again, Uranus is figuring into the equation in a major way!  It's opposing (about 180 degrees from) Harry's natal Sun.  This is a very stressful aspect, and likely to produce far-reaching changes.  Let's hope our hero makes them slowly and carefully because this aspect is also associated with accidents.  Transiting Saturn, in retrograde indicate that Harry should keep a close eye on his wider circle of associates--an existing problem is likely to surface here and will have to be dealt with.  Could the Malfoy family have a dirty trick up their sleeves?  Or can we expect a betrayal of some sort?

 

Harry's under some pretty complicated and intense influences at the beginning of his sixth year.  I'm sure we're all anxious and maybe a little worried.  But take heart.  JKR has created our hero with the natal chart of one who's likely to emerge a strong, authoritative, and benevolent leader, not the least bit afraid to fight if there's no choice--watch out "He Who Must Not Be Named", you've met your match!.  Harry may well emerge a successful politician.  Anyone suspect that Harry's on the fast track to step into DD's shoes when the time comes?

 

Can't Wait,

~Paula Gaon

 

See Harry's Natal Chart at:

http://www.astrologywithcommonsense.bravehost.com/harry.html

 

More HP Astrology http://www.bft.blogspot.com/

 

See the The Zodiac Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/bft/287569



		
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From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 08:38:24 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:38:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <005401c580fd$976b4cc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <20050707083824.95839.qmail@web61016.mail.yahoo.com>



Saitaina <saitaina at frontiernet.net> wrote:
It's when you start naming children,
that you should be scared. *wink*

Saitaina
****


Ahem!

Yes, alright! I'm terrified. We've got to the yelling it in public stage now. I's like having a flashing sign over my head saying:

"Grown-up HP obsessive"

The kids I meet think it's very cool though.

Sam 


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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul  7 10:28:31 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:28:31 -0400
Subject: Bad News From London
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIECHDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

It's about 6:20 A.M. in the US and I just heard about the explosions and
injuries within the underground and on the busses.  My heart is breaking for
those with loved ones involved or hurt in these incidents.  I pray God's
mercy on them and pray that whoever's responsible for this is caught!

To experience such superb joy at being selected for the 2012 Olympics to the
horror of this morning...What can I say, except that my love is with you
all.

Lee S.

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul  7 10:43:35 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:43:35 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIECHDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <42CD93F7.18065.E365BE@localhost>

"We shall have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who 
work your wicked will. You do your worst, and we will do our 
best....We do not expect to hit without being hit back, and we intend 
with every week that passes to hit harder. Prepare yourselves then, 
my friends and comrades, for this renewal of your exertions. We shall 
never turn from our purpose, however sombre the road, however 
grievous the cost, because we know that out of this time of trial and 
tribulation will be born a new freedom and glory for all mankind."  

- Winston Churchill

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 10:47:07 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:47:07 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIECHDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <daj17b+o63q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> It's about 6:20 A.M. in the US and I just heard about the 
explosions and
> injuries within the underground and on the busses.

>From an 'up' day yesterday, to a really 'down' day today.  I thought 
I might get more up to date info on the internet, but the TV is 
better, so I'm off again in a minute to watch News 24.
It's still all a bit confused - the Metropolitan Police Commissioner 
has said there have been 6 explosions on the underground and on 
buses - the entire transport network of central London had ground to 
a halt and all the hospitals are on alert.
Personally I was on a downer yesterday, but was brightened by a 
lovely e-mail (you know who you are) and the fact we clinched the 
Olympics, but today that all pales into insignificance.  Hubby says 
it is very reminiscent of Madrid - where one explosion drives the 
hordes in one direction only for them to be hit by another.  All I 
can say is that it is sick.
I don't care who is responsible (and there has been much speculation 
in the media already) we have so many enemeies it could be anyone 
(IRA, Al Quieda, Environmentalists (Unlikely I think).  Whoever it 
is ... YOU ARE SICK.

thank you for reading, and all your kind thoughts to us over here in 
the UK.

Sarah xx






From shalimar07 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 11:52:37 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:52:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Bad News From London
Message-ID: <1c8.2c268520.2ffe7185@aol.com>

There is nothing any of us can say except that our thoughts and prayers are  
with you all.  I have lost personal friends to terrorism and all I can say  is 
Stand Tall and never waiver. 
 
Shalimar


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From heidi at heidi8.com  Thu Jul  7 13:15:29 2005
From: heidi at heidi8.com (Heidi)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:15:29 -0400
Subject: From Hexquarters, re Terror Attack in London
Message-ID: <5913e6f805070706155cf5c01b@mail.gmail.com>

We at Hexquarters are keeping a close eye on the Muggle news-stations
today to hear word from our friends in the London area ,and we are
sure many of you are doing the same. It would be best to keep all "I'm
OK" and "Please Check In" posts on HPFGU-OTChatter, located at
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/hpfgu-otchatter. Also, a LiveJournal
community has been set up for people to check in. You can find it at
http://www.livejournal.com/community/london_070705/ .

Stay safe, everyone.



The HPFGU Hexquarters Team



From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul  7 15:19:03 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:19:03 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <1c8.2c268520.2ffe7185@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dajh57+m0v7@eGroups.com>

Well I've just watched the joint emergency services news conference 
and the latest is 33 dead plus the dead from the bus.  As I 
understand it they can't tell how many bodies there are there, which 
is not surprising seeing pictures of it.  

I've only got one friend now who still works in London (most of us 
have moved out over the years) and she travels via Victoria Station 
so though she's very likely stuck there, she should at least be 
unharmed.

I lived in central London when the IRA were causing chaos on an 
almost daily basis where we were continually being either evacuated 
out of, or herded to the back of the building I worked in and once 
when a car blew up on the next corner from ours.  It sounds stupid 
but you become used to it after a while.  It's been a few years now 
since that's been going on though so this has come somewhat out of 
the blue, particulary after the wave of euphoria that swept through 
the country yesterday.

All you can do is pray for the victims and their families and carry 
on as normal, because if you change your way of life that's when 
terrorists win.

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, shalimar07 at a... wrote:
> There is nothing any of us can say except that our thoughts and 
prayers are  
> with you all.  I have lost personal friends to terrorism and all I 
can say  is 
> Stand Tall and never waiver. 
>  
> Shalimar
> 
> 
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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 15:25:02 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:25:02 -0400
Subject: Conspiracy: It's Blaise Zabini's fault
Message-ID: <1a27384005070708256848cc88@mail.gmail.com>

I got in an email with the subject of 'London Is Falling Down' on a
friends list and how folks would like to see terrorism end and some
snarky comments about conspiracy theories.

On Monday, Showtime aired the 'conspiracy' episode of Penn&Teller's
Bullshit show and they brought up how some crazy folk thought Bush
would deliberately scheme to have thousands of Americans killed to
justify invasion of Iraq.  It's... there really isn't a word that I
can think of to sum up the feelings when you're dealing with seeing
violence directed at folks who shouldn't be a part of it (i.e.
terrorism on civilians).

Hm, I once joked about Blaise Zabini being the key to the HP books...
On today's Scholastic countdown calendar, Zabini is the fact of the
day: Blaise Zabini was the last person from Harry's class at Hogwarts
to be assigned to a House by the Sorting Hat.

It's all Blaise Zabini's fault for everything that goes wrong.  How's
that for half-baked conspiracy theory.

Dina



From nantray at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  7 15:04:50 2005
From: nantray at hotmail.com (remarkably_raven)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:04:50 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIECHDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <dajgai+v903@eGroups.com>

When I woke this morning to this news, I was sickened. I pray for 
those with loved ones that were involved. What is the world coming too 
when such measures are taken because one country won the rights to 
host the Olympics over another. 


Raven







From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu Jul  7 16:27:14 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:27:14 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <dajgai+v903@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dajl52+6ngo@eGroups.com>

Raven wrote:

> What is the world coming too 
> when such measures are taken because one country won the rights to 
> host the Olympics over another. 

I doubt that's the reason.  I think the G8 meeting is more likely to 
be the occasion, or it may simply be a coincidence due to internal 
logistic factors for the bombers.

David





From morgan at sover.net  Thu Jul  7 16:32:16 2005
From: morgan at sover.net (j92m14)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:32:16 -0000
Subject: I'm thinking about everyone in London and sick about all this
Message-ID: <dajleg+2ipe@eGroups.com>

Nothing profound, just appalled at more violence and bad things 
happening to people who don't deserve it.
Jane Southworth in New England USA







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul  7 16:37:54 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:37:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <dajgai+v903@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOAECKDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Remarkably Raven]:
| When I woke this morning to this news, I was sickened. I pray for
| those with loved ones that were involved. What is the world coming too
| when such measures are taken because one country won the rights to
| host the Olympics

[Lee]:
I don't think it's the Olympics; I think it's the G-8 meetings.  It's just
that everything happened at once.

Lee :(




From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 17:37:06 2005
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (leeann mccullough)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:37:06 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Bad news from London
Message-ID: <25426690.1120757826863.JavaMail.root@wamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Just a note of support from one of your friends here in the US. I was proud to see that London is not in a state of panic (which is what "they" want). The truth will come out and freedom will prevail.
Your country and its people are in my prayers.
Your friend,
Leeann





From michel56 at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 17:48:24 2005
From: michel56 at earthlink.net (Michele)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:48:24 -0000
Subject: Love and support
Message-ID: <dajpt8+op2r@eGroups.com>

Just one more note of support and love going out to our Brit friends 
from a friend in Florida.  Sending love and prayers to you.  We here 
in the U.S. are beside you and behind you always.

Love and hugs,
Michele





From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 18:14:48 2005
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:14:48 -0000
Subject: Love and support
In-Reply-To: <dajpt8+op2r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dajreo+krn5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michele" <michel56 at e...> wrote:
> Just one more note of support and love going out to our Brit friends 
> from a friend in Florida.  Sending love and prayers to you.  We here 
> in the U.S. are beside you and behind you always.
> 
> Love and hugs,
> Michele


Alla:

Just wanted to put my name under these words too.





From dzny72 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 19:09:38 2005
From: dzny72 at yahoo.com (dzny72)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:09:38 -0000
Subject: I am SO frustrated!!!!
Message-ID: <dajuli+3kuv@eGroups.com>

I am so angry right now and I just have to vent about it.  My local 
Waldenbooks (only bookstore in town) has decided NOT to open at 
midnight on the 16th--they will be opening at 8am.  When I reserved
my copy, the clerk told me they would be opening at midnight, but
when 
I called to double check that they still had my pre-order, they said 
they decided not to open at midnight.  They (and this is an exact 
quote) "didn't think it would bother anyone too much if the weren't 
open until 8am".  So now, I am going to have to pre-order it at the 
local Wal-Mart b/c that is the only place that will be open at
midnight AND would have the book.  I am telling everyone I know around
here(and who is willing) to drop their pre-order at Waldenbooks, and
to 
let them know why.  Thanks for the opportunity to vent--my husband 
would just roll his eyes and say "You can't wait until 8am?"  (this 
from the same person who has to go to see the HP movies the very same 
day they come out)

Marlo





From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 19:36:39 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:36:39 -0000
Subject: My take on today's events
Message-ID: <dak087+cq9k@eGroups.com>

I've been watching the news spooling the same shots of the bus, the 
injured and the gridlock in London.  At the moment they are 
saying 'at least' 37 dead, but it's likely to get higher.
I know I'm well away from London, (about 200 miles I think), but 
there isn't a state of panic here - everybody is really shocked by 
the events of course, but somehow not surprised.  It's like the 
authorities (ambulance service, police, fire service and hospitals) 
have got the emergency procedure down to a fine art because they knew 
it would happen - some time.
I think a lot more countries than just the UK will be affected - they 
were saying that the location of the bus bomb in particular meant 
that there were a lot of foreigners around and that there were 
language difficulties in ascertaining injuries and problems.
But, you know, terrible and shocking as it is, the world just keeps 
on turning ...
We'll show the world that although we're small, we're a tenacious lot 
and we will carry on.  We will continue living our lives and by 
Monday London will be back to almost normal - you mark my words.
I'm sure I speak for everyone on the list in the UK in saying thanks 
for your thoughts, (but then I always was a bit gobby).

Sarah xx





From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 20:03:18 2005
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:03:18 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Love and support
In-Reply-To: <dajreo+krn5@eGroups.com>
References: <dajpt8+op2r@eGroups.com> <dajreo+krn5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <d4a040d05070713031a1dee0b@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/7/05, dumbledore11214 <dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michele" <michel56 at e...> wrote:
> > Just one more note of support and love going out to our Brit friends 
> > from a friend in Florida.  Sending love and prayers to you.  We here 
> > in the U.S. are beside you and behind you always.
> > 
> > Love and hugs,
> > Michele
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Just wanted to put my name under these words too.
> 

Tonya:

I also wanted to note my support and love going out to our friends. 
You are in our prayers and hearts.



From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 21:54:33 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:54:33 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <42CD93F7.18065.E365BE@localhost>
Message-ID: <dak8ap+gd5d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> "We shall have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who 
> work your wicked will. You do your worst, and we will do our 
> best....We do not expect to hit without being hit back, and we 
intend with every week that passes to hit harder. Prepare yourselves 
then, my friends and comrades, for this renewal of your exertions. 
We shall never turn from our purpose, however sombre the road, 
however grievous the cost, because we know that out of this time of 
trial and tribulation will be born a new freedom and glory for all 
mankind."  
> 
> - Winston Churchill
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia

*****\(@@)/*****

Great words from a very great man.... My condolences to our brothers 
and sisters in Great Britain. These people can only terrorize us if 
we allow them to. They are such cowards that they have to strike at 
innocent people and then hide. They have no soul or humanity. 

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul  7 14:46:47 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:46:47 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
References: <20050707083824.95839.qmail@web61016.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016101c58302$b456fc60$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Sam wrote:

<Yes, alright! I'm terrified. We've got
to the yelling it in public stage now.
I's like having a flashing sign over my
head saying:

"Grown-up HP obsessive">

Okay I will confess, I would probably
take the cake of obsessivness
considering when I formally changed my
name a few months ago...

I added Malfoy to my pen name.

So legally, I changed my name to that
of an HP character and have the drivers
license to prove it.

Then add in the fact I want to name my
first born son/daughter Draco or
Narcissa...

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

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From marilynpeake at cs.com  Thu Jul  7 23:10:39 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:10:39 -0000
Subject: To All of Our Friends in England
Message-ID: <dakcpf+eqrb@eGroups.com>

To all of our list buddies in England,

I saw the news today about London.  Please know that the world's 
thoughts and prayers are with you as you recover from this tragic day.

Best Wishes,
Marilyn

~~ Drink deeply by land or sea. Earth comes only once.~~
>From THE FISHERMAN'S SON Trilogy 
http://www.marilynpeake.com
http://www.thefishermansson.com

>From PIERS ANTHONY, best-selling, award-winning science fiction and 
fantasy author:
"Now I have read The Fisherman's Son.  This is a nice children's 
fantasy, grounded in realism."

>From JAMES A. COX, Editor-in-Chief of the MIDWEST BOOK REVIEW:
"The Fisherman's Son is a delightful and colorfully narrated tale 
which documents Marilyn Peake as a story teller of considerable 
narrative skill."
  





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu Jul  7 17:18:43 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:18:43 -0000
Subject: Harry's Astrological Reading & More
In-Reply-To: <20050707075928.31125.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dajo5j+phb0@eGroups.com>

Paula wrote:
>
> The one thing that really sticks in my mind was the end of Order of 
the Phoenix.  Remember the end, when Ron mentions a couple of times 
that they saw Uranus.  Can't help but think that this is JKR giving us 
a bit of foreshadowing.  

Bad news for Lavender, then?

David





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 22:35:21 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:35:21 -0000
Subject: To all of you
Message-ID: <dakan9+104k0@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone! I'm currently away on vacation on a small tropical 
paradise hidden somewhere in the CAribean, but news got here, and I 
just wanted to wish all of you who may have friends or relatives in 
London the best of luck, I hope you or your loved ones weren't hurt. I 
think that together, standing tall, we can defeat terrorism. Best 
wishhes.

Juli





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  7 21:42:43 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Belated Birthday Greetings!
Message-ID: <20050707214243.35356.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com>

*struggles with an overloaded food cart while trailing
bunches of balloons behind*

I missed a birthday! No good excuse but I'm hoping an
overabundance of food will help make up for the
oversight. Once you're all fed and happy, I'll be over
in the corner ironing my fingers.

Yesterday's birthday honouree was Jen. Belated
birthday owls can be sent care of this list or
directly to: Foxydoxy1 at yahoo.com

I hope your day brought everything fun and magical.

Happy Birthday, Jen!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul  8 06:42:38 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:42:38 -0000
Subject: Harry's Astrological Reading & More
In-Reply-To: <dajo5j+phb0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dal78u+ce29@eGroups.com>

 <dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> Paula wrote:
> >
> > The one thing that really sticks in my mind was the end of Order 
of 
> the Phoenix.  Remember the end, when Ron mentions a couple of times 
> that they saw Uranus.  Can't help but think that this is JKR giving 
us 
> a bit of foreshadowing.  
> 
I'm afraid that this is just a bit of schoolboy humour.  The 
pronouncialtion of Uranus in England can sound rather rude (pronounce 
the first sillable as 'your' and then look at what you're left with) 
and has been the subject of playground jokes for years and years!

Karen





From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 11:47:36 2005
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:47:36 -0000
Subject: Support Group for those in Hurricane Alley....
Message-ID: <dalp4o+29k3@eGroups.com>

Hey guys I have a group that I been running for a year now that helps
people talk and listen to others about their fears and other problems
that they have with the hurricanes that keeps coming. If you live in
and around Hurricane Alley please join my group and invite others as
well so you will know that you are not alone.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hurricane_Support_Group/

Tasha





From entropymail at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 13:13:30 2005
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:13:30 -0000
Subject: The Eyre Affair
In-Reply-To: <dahb34+l447@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dalu5q+tqlu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> I can't remember who recommended Jasper Fforde in the first place, but 
> it was defintely someone on this list - Thank you!  What a great read.  
> I enjoyed it from cover to cover.

I've read the entire Thursday Next series and, although some of the
books may be a bit tougher to get through than others, they are all
delightful and definitely worth a look.  

I'm fairly certain that Fforde has another book due out this summer,
but I don't think it is a Thursday Next book. Does anyone have any
info on this?

:: Entropy ::





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 13:25:04 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:25:04 -0400
Subject: HBP hardcover @ $14.39
Message-ID: <1a2738400507080625197938b@mail.gmail.com>

http://dealnews.com/

Scroll down and there's a segment on getting the newest HP book at
this discounted rate at Overstock.  However, the book is shipped on
July 16, which means you may be getting the book later than others.

Hm, maybe it might be a good deal for the audiobook with 10% discount
offer.  I'm at work and a bit short on time to do a side-by-side
comparison.  Then again, Borders had the 25% off coupon for second
item.

Dina



From heidi8 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 15:01:25 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:01:25 -0400
Subject: Jasper Fforde & the big over easy
References: <20050708143836.21244.qmail@no3.unternehmen.com>
Message-ID: <1120834889.9465847@di12.dngr.org>

People've been talking about fforde, and after I'd deleted someone's 
question about his new book I got this:
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Fforde Newsletter <newsletter at jasperfforde.com>
To: heidi <heidit at netbox.com>
Subject: Jasper Fforde Newsletter July 2005
Date: 8 Jul 2005 14:38:36 -0000

You may be interested to know that 'The Big Over Easy', my new book in 
the Nursery Crime series is just about to be published. It will be 
available to UK readers from the 11th July and in the USA only fourteen 
days later, on the 25th July.

Thursday Next is taking a well earned break, and leaving the limelight 
to Detective Inspector Jack Spratt.

Jack is head of the Reading Nursery Crime Division and has long suffered 
under the shadow of the flashy Detective Friedland Chymes who dominates 
the exclusive Guild of Detectives and has an astonishing number of cases 
published in Amazing Crime Stories. Jack remains unpublished and yet to 
be invited into the Guild.

It?s Easter in Reading - a bad time for eggs - and no one can remember 
the last sunny day. Ovoid D-Class nursery celebrity Humpty Dumpty, minor 
baronet, lover of women, ex-convict, and former millionaire 
philanthropist, is found shattered to death beneath a wall. Yes, the big 
egg is down.

Jack Spratt has just suffered the spectacular failure to see the three 
pigs convicted for the murder of a certain Mr. Wolf, and now, with his 
new partner, Sergeant Mary Mary, it is up to Jack to find the key to 
Humpty?s death. Delving into Humpty?s secretive and sordid past 
reaches into the highest echelons of Reading society and, before long 
Jack and Mary find themselves grappling with a sinister plot involving 
cross-border money laundering, bullion smuggling, beanstalks, Titans 
seeking political asylum and the cut and thrust world of international 
chiropody.

And on top of all that - the Jellyman is coming to town...
*********

(The newsletter is ok to forward per his site's rules)

Heidi

Http://www.fictionalley.org



From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 15:03:55 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:03:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Support Group for those in Hurricane Alley....
In-Reply-To: <dalp4o+29k3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050708150355.38749.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>

Tasha,
 
I was just watching the Tropical Update on the Weather Channel and was thinking about you.  Are you going to try and stick this one out or are you going to leave?
 
moonmyyst

Tasha <bruney200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey guys I have a group that I been running for a year now that helps
people talk and listen to others about their fears and other problems
that they have with the hurricanes that keeps coming. If you live in
and around Hurricane Alley please join my group and invite others as
well so you will know that you are not alone.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hurricane_Support_Group/

Tasha




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From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 16:03:46 2005
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter%5
In-Reply-To: <20050708150355.38749.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050708160346.63742.qmail@web40527.mail.yahoo.com>

Will see what happens but if its still a category 4
storm im packing up the baby and hubby and his mom and
movin inward to my aunts house in Tampa or to Ohio
where hubbys brothers family is. We are watching this
one real close since hubby and I moved to St. Pete 3
months ago to be clser to his mom so she can help take
care of the baby if we ever want to go on a date or do
shopping without the baby.
Keep all of us in your prayers.

Tasha

--- K G <moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Tasha,
>  
> I was just watching the Tropical Update on the
> Weather Channel and was thinking about you.  Are you
> going to try and stick this one out or are you going
> to leave?
>  
> moonmyyst
> 
> Tasha <bruney200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey guys I have a group that I been running for a
> year now that helps
> people talk and listen to others about their fears
> and other problems
> that they have with the hurricanes that keeps
> coming. If you live in
> and around Hurricane Alley please join my group and
> invite others as
> well so you will know that you are not alone.
>
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hurricane_Support_Group/
> 
> Tasha
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From LunaLovesHarry at aol.com  Fri Jul  8 17:50:13 2005
From: LunaLovesHarry at aol.com (LunaLovesHarry at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:50:13 EDT
Subject: Our list friends in the UK
Message-ID: <15c.53d6dc29.300016d5@aol.com>

Sarah and everyone else ....

Just wanted to add my thoughts and prayers for all of you, to the others who 
have posted previously.  The news of yesterday was like salting an old wound 
... the 9/11 wound.  Seems our country just stopped that day and for days to 
follow, and I am on the west coast of the U.S., but the impact was felt here as 
well.  It was good to see (on TV)  Londoner's seemily bouncing right back 
today.  Stay safe everyone.

And to our friends in Florida, stay safe in the stormy days ahead!

Elizabeth ..... off on holiday for a week.


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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul  8 18:54:01 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:54:01 -0000
Subject: Our list friends in the UK
In-Reply-To: <15c.53d6dc29.300016d5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dami49+l3u8@eGroups.com>

I don't know how much coverage you guys are getting over there, but 
Ken Livingstone (London's mayor) made quite a moving speach today 
along the lines of 'Next week as you watch us bury our dead also 
watch this, that London will be back to normal".  The Queen also 
made a speech, while visiting one of the hospitals involved, saying 
that people like that will not stop the British from living our 
lives the way we want to live them.  The expression "stiff upper 
lip" really springs to mind!!

Londoners were not beaten by the Blitz (and most of the east end was 
flattened by that) or the IRA and there's no way these people will 
defeat them either.  And all your and other country's thoughts and 
kind words go a long way towards helping to strengthen their resolve.

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, LunaLovesHarry at a... wrote:
> Sarah and everyone else ....
> 
> Just wanted to add my thoughts and prayers for all of you, to the 
others who 
> have posted previously.  The news of yesterday was like salting an 
old wound 
> ... the 9/11 wound.  Seems our country just stopped that day and 
for days to 
> follow, and I am on the west coast of the U.S., but the impact was 
felt here as 
> well.  It was good to see (on TV)  Londoner's seemily bouncing 
right back 
> today.  Stay safe everyone.
> 
> And to our friends in Florida, stay safe in the stormy days ahead!
> 
> Elizabeth ..... off on holiday for a week.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 19:11:04 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:11:04 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter%5
In-Reply-To: <20050708160346.63742.qmail@web40527.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050708150355.38749.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>
	 <20050708160346.63742.qmail@web40527.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005070812113c873716@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/8/05, Tasha <bruney200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Will see what happens but if its still a category 4
> storm im packing up the baby and hubby and his mom and
> movin inward to my aunts house in Tampa or to Ohio

http://www.bn9.com/images/news/2005/7/8/lgdennis1.jpg

Other than rain and some wind gusts, currently nothing to worry about
for our area from Dennis, unless you're near a river known for
flooding.  Hm, actually, just a week or so ago, a tornado went through
Clearwater Beach area (ten minute drive from here).  You could tell
something wasn't right by the sky being such a dark grey to almost
black and seeing dust circling the lower sky.  For those not familiar,
we're approximately located at the "dip" of Florida where the base of
the weather guy's thumb and wrist is.

Seems transportation is currently more deadly than storms considering
there was a fatal car accident at an intersection of US Hwy 19 this
morning and I'm within seeing distance (3-4 minute walk) of the
intersection.  I was busy working (no jokes about 'for a change') and
could hear the extended slam/skid of the breaks (must've been going
50-60 mph) and then the crunch.  It's almost daily I hear an emergency
vehicle go through the area.

Dina



From rgmcf at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 18:00:43 2005
From: rgmcf at yahoo.com (Rod McFadden)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:00:43 -0000
Subject: Not important, but amusing
Message-ID: <damf0b+5kmu@eGroups.com>

"Peripherally related, but amusing.
The Texas (USA) Maritime Academy has just taken delivery of a new 
training ship named SIRIUS. I sent out a very routine notification to a 
few nautical mailing lists and have gotten a stream of Potter-related 
replies since!

Here are a couple of examples:
"i'll never forgive her for killing him..."
"...the washdown lockers all have Cleansweep brooms?"

In the grand scheme of 16th July, a fairly minor, but amusing note!
Rod McFadden
Virginia, USA"








From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 20:55:15 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:55:15 -0000
Subject: Wow - the back of The Book!
Message-ID: <damp7j+3o4t@eGroups.com>

Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have high resolution pictures of the back 
of the book. Possible spoiler there so look at your own risk!

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=hbpbackcover1.jpg

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2005/07/hbpbackcoverschol.html

Scholastic just released them. Very nice, I might add!

This is making me a lot happier by the minute....

Dudemom_2000    who is frantically knitting to try to make time pass 
quicker before the book comes out (I don't own a time turner)

*****\(@@)/*****







From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 20:57:41 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:57:41 -0000
Subject: The Eyre Affair
In-Reply-To: <dalu5q+tqlu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dampc5+5rah@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "entropymail" 
<entropymail at y...> wrote:
>Snip< 
> I'm fairly certain that Fforde has another book due out this summer,
> but I don't think it is a Thursday Next book. Does anyone have any
> info on this?
> 
> :: Entropy ::

*****\(@@)/*****

It is The Big Over Easy and is due out here in the US very shortly. I 
have it on order from Amazon and plan to read it after HBP.

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****





From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 22:12:43 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:12:43 -0000
Subject: * Wow* - the back of The Book!
In-Reply-To: <damp7j+3o4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <damtor+vluf@eGroups.com>

HI!

Thank's for letting us see that !

WOW is right !

About the London folks . . .

my oldest son, who is in the NAVY, was in London

this last April, and he liked the place.

Said everyone was nice to him and other Navy guys.

It is just so upsetting to hear about a few 

'slime balls' hurting good folks.

Gail in IND



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" 
<dudemom_2000 at y...> wrote:
> Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have high resolution pictures of the 
back 
> of the book. Possible spoiler there so look at your own risk!
> 
> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=hbpbackcover1.jpg
> 
> http://www.the-leaky-
cauldron.org/images/2005/07/hbpbackcoverschol.html
> 
> Scholastic just released them. Very nice, I might add!
> 
> This is making me a lot happier by the minute....
> 
> Dudemom_2000    who is frantically knitting to try to make time pass 
> quicker before the book comes out (I don't own a time turner)
> 
> *****\(@@)/*****





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul  9 00:04:11 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:04:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wow - the back of The Book!
In-Reply-To: <damp7j+3o4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEDFDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[DudeMom wrote]:
|
| Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have high resolution pictures of the back
| of the book. Possible spoiler there so look at your own risk!

[Lee]:
Can you write me off list and describe what you saw?  My screenreader
doesn't do pictures. :-(

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(always up for a spoiler!)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul  9 00:14:14 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:14:14 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter
 when....
In-Reply-To: <dagvni+fdsf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEDFDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Barb wrote]:
| I have a 19 month old son. He turned on the tv this morning, and
| Barney was on. (I don't like that stupid dinosaur, but he makes my son
| giggle.) Anyway, Barney and the kids were singing "Pop Goes the
| Weasel." I started singing along-I didn't even think about it---until
| I realized that I was singing "Pop Goes the Kneazle." Dear Lord, I
| think I need help.

[Lee]: <Grin>
Hmm--could have been worse; you could have said, "Pop goes the Weasley,"
thinking of Arthur apparating into the kitchen after a long night's work....
:-)

Or, as I watch Percy's head seem to get bigger and bigger since Book Four,
especially, definitely, Pop goes the Weasley. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sat Jul  9 00:49:30 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:49:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] SPOILER ALERT Wow - the back of The Book!
References: <damp7j+3o4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c58420$10cd0a20$5e160b18@cauldron1>

Actually that back side doesn't surprise me one bit. In fact, it ties in
with what we know already.
Remember in Book 4, at the WQC match, when Mr. Weasley was telling the kids
what the dark mark was? And what it was used for? Now tie it in with the
fact that JKR has told us someone is going to die in book 6.. Seems only
right that she would write in about the darkmark being seen over that
person's body, where ever it is. Remember, they want to create terror, and
the Darkmark does just that..







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dudemom_2000" <dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wow - the back of The Book!


> Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have high resolution pictures of the back
> of the book. Possible spoiler there so look at your own risk!
>
> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=hbpbackcover1.jpg
>
> http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2005/07/hbpbackcoverschol.html
>
> Scholastic just released them. Very nice, I might add!




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul  9 04:10:54 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:10:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Aaaaawwww
In-Reply-To: <daee80+vdk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOKEDGDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Alice wrote about hesitation to attend the launch party being, "the towering
and impressive age of 22..."

Hmm--well, I'm the impressive age of 46 and my Art is the impressive age of
67, and we have no qualms about going to a Barnes and Noble HBP launch
party...none in the least.  I'll probably bring a wand and my hand-cut,
machine-sewn wizard hat.

The problem will be the choice of where to land...either in Livingston, NJ,
which is close to us, or spend big bucks to get into New York City to the
B&N where Jim Dale is doing a midnight reading...Ah--decisions, decisions,
decisions...and whether we can swing the NYC trip or not.

Either way, we probably will go to one party or another.

I don' wanna grow up! I won't...they can't make me! :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jul  9 05:52:49 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 05:52:49 -0000
Subject: Kitties and Theme Parks
Message-ID: <danonh+srph@eGroups.com>

Sheryll wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27813 :

<< Oh, and does the fact that I have cat named Purr C. count? <vbg> >>

No, you've done too good a job of disguising it as a normal Muggle
kitty name.

Sarah wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27833 :

<<  Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in this? < Disney is in a
preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park.> >>

I have trouble imagining Disney doing anything to publicize a property
owned by Warner Bros.





From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 06:35:29 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 02:35:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: Kitties and Theme Parks
In-Reply-To: <danonh+srph@eGroups.com>
References: <danonh+srph@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1120890932.8D328E0@dj11.dngr.org>


>
> Sarah wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27833 :
>
> <<  Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in this? < Disney is in a
> preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park.> >>

Rita replied:
>
> I have trouble imagining Disney doing anything to publicize a property
> owned by Warner Bros.

This rumor has been around for a while and may relate to Disney's 
purchase of the TV rights to at least the first four HP films - that's 
why they've aired on ABC in the US. But there's never been anything 
official even hinted at by anyone at either company, although the head 
of IIRC universal speculated on it once.

I wish there was; I'd love a Hagrid's Area at Animal Kingdom.

Heidi



From gbannister10 at aol.com  Sat Jul  9 06:54:32 2005
From: gbannister10 at aol.com (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 06:54:32 -0000
Subject: London's 7/7
Message-ID: <dansb8+6cr3@eGroups.com>

Geoff:
As an English member of the group, I would like to thank other 
members, many of whom I think are in the US for their offers of 
prayer and support to us after the London attacks. I have now lived 
in the West Country for 11 years but, prior to that, I lived in 
London for 45 years and often passed through many of the locations 
involved. It is ironic that Kings Cross was involved as this was the 
scene of a terrible fire tragedy in 1987 when many people died.

At the moment (Saturday 07:45), the confirmed death toll is 49 but it 
is feared that 20-25 bodies still have to be recovered from the 
Piccadilly Line train between Kings Cross and Russell Square. This 
seems to be borne out by the numbers of people being sought by 
relatives.

There are eerie reminders of New York's trials on 11th September, 
especially in the appearance of photos and pleas for help on walls 
and bus stops near the blast sites. I am also vividly reminded of the 
traumatic days when we had a young family growing up during the 
height of the IRA bombing campaign twenty and more years ago.

By one of the quirks of coincidence, ex-Mayor Giuliani was in London 
on Thursday at a meeting close to Liverpool Street. He was on the 
television offering words of support and I think London's own mayor, 
Ken Livingstone has spoken at least twice with words from close to 
the heart.

We were personally greatly relieved in that our younger son, who is a 
computer consultant and is based near Liverpool Street, was on a job 
which took him out of London on Thursday.

Again, as a UK group member, my own thanks to those who have offered 
messages of comfort.





From prncss1175 at msn.com  Sat Jul  9 16:02:51 2005
From: prncss1175 at msn.com (Molli Hall)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 11:02:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] London's 7/7
In-Reply-To: <dansb8+6cr3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY11-F48C4D70BB9A9651038FAEC8DA0@phx.gbl>

To all of the British Members:

   Please know that everyone in the US is praying and worrying right along 
with you.  This is a tragic event, and we know all to well what it can do to 
National Morale.  I personally had friends that were traveling in London, 
and we were on pins and needles until they were able to get an email out to 
us telling us that they were fine but to pray for the families of those that 
were not.







>From: "Geoff Bannister" <gbannister10 at aol.com>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] London's 7/7
>Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 06:54:32 -0000
>
>Geoff:
>As an English member of the group, I would like to thank other
>members, many of whom I think are in the US for their offers of
>prayer and support to us after the London attacks. I have now lived
>in the West Country for 11 years but, prior to that, I lived in
>London for 45 years and often passed through many of the locations
>involved. It is ironic that Kings Cross was involved as this was the
>scene of a terrible fire tragedy in 1987 when many people died.
>
>At the moment (Saturday 07:45), the confirmed death toll is 49 but it
>is feared that 20-25 bodies still have to be recovered from the
>Piccadilly Line train between Kings Cross and Russell Square. This
>seems to be borne out by the numbers of people being sought by
>relatives.
>
>There are eerie reminders of New York's trials on 11th September,
>especially in the appearance of photos and pleas for help on walls
>and bus stops near the blast sites. I am also vividly reminded of the
>traumatic days when we had a young family growing up during the
>height of the IRA bombing campaign twenty and more years ago.
>
>By one of the quirks of coincidence, ex-Mayor Giuliani was in London
>on Thursday at a meeting close to Liverpool Street. He was on the
>television offering words of support and I think London's own mayor,
>Ken Livingstone has spoken at least twice with words from close to
>the heart.
>
>We were personally greatly relieved in that our younger son, who is a
>computer consultant and is based near Liverpool Street, was on a job
>which took him out of London on Thursday.
>
>Again, as a UK group member, my own thanks to those who have offered
>messages of comfort.
>
>
>
>
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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  9 16:55:39 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:55:39 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter quiz on (UK) TV tomorrow
Message-ID: <daovib+he2d@eGroups.com>

To anyone in the UK, you might like to know that there's a quiz on 
ITV1 tomorrow at 17:15.  It's between 4 of 'Harry's biggest fans' to 
win a chance to go to Edinburgh on the 16th.  There's also something 
on next week and JKR is going to read an extract of the book on the 
stroke of midnight - I'm feeling less upset that there's no Potter 
party near where I will be visiting next weekend!

Karen





From maritajan at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  9 16:59:16 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] SPOILER ALERT Wow - the back of The Book!
In-Reply-To: <003e01c58420$10cd0a20$5e160b18@cauldron1>
Message-ID: <20050709165916.76876.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There's another version of a back cover, can't remember what version, but
it shows a river or lake with a small boat pulled up on the shore.  I
found that to be interesting, too, considering that there's a lake under
Hogwarts or Gringotts, can't remember which.  

MJ 

--- bumbledore <bumbledore at comcast.net> wrote:

> Actually that back side doesn't surprise me one bit. In fact, it ties in
> with what we know already.
> Remember in Book 4, at the WQC match, when Mr. Weasley was telling the
> kids
> what the dark mark was? And what it was used for? Now tie it in with the
> fact that JKR has told us someone is going to die in book 6.. Seems only
> right that she would write in about the darkmark being seen over that
> person's body, where ever it is. Remember, they want to create terror,
> and
> the Darkmark does just that..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dudemom_2000" <dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:55 PM
> Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wow - the back of The Book!
> 
> 
> > Mugglenet and Leaky Cauldron have high resolution pictures of the back
> > of the book. Possible spoiler there so look at your own risk!
> >
> > http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=hbpbackcover1.jpg
> >
> >
> http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2005/07/hbpbackcoverschol.html
> >
> > Scholastic just released them. Very nice, I might add!
> 
> 


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat Jul  9 20:21:49 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:21:49 EDT
Subject: McGonagall in today's Daily Buzzword
Message-ID: <1c7.2c1d2f94.30018bdd@aol.com>

This is in my email each today. Today's emailed word featured  Professor 
McGonagall.
 
What is the Daily Buzzword for July 9?
elbow grease   \EL-boh-GREESS\  noun

What does it mean?
: forceful effort  in doing physical labor

How do you use it?
"You will be  polishing the silver in the trophy room with Mr.
Filch," said Professor  McGonagall. "And no magic, Weasley --
elbow grease." (J. K. Rowling, _Harry  Potter and the Chamber
of Secrets_)

Are you a word wiz?
How  old do you think the term "elbow grease" is?

A. Very old; medieval  laborers erecting castles probably used it.
B. Old; Pilgrims who built  the settlement at Plymouth might have
heard it.
C. Fairly new; it  was first used during the construction of the
Panama Canal.
D. Very  new; NASA engineers coined it while working on the  Space
Shuttle.

Answer: 
The Pilgrims certainly labored hard  to build their settlement
at Plymouth, and they may have used the term "elbow  grease"
to describe their labor. "Elbow grease" first made its
appearance  on the English scene back in the late 1600s, where
it was immediately used as  a humorous euphemism for the sweat
produced by hard work. It later came to  mean "effort in doing
labor," the meaning we give it today. "Elbow grease"  tends to
appear in more casual writing. For more formal writing,  you'd
probably be better of with a word like "effort," "exertion,"
or  "pains."

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From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  9 21:38:01 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:38:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter quiz on (UK) TV tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <daovib+he2d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050709213801.8746.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Karen Barker  wrote:
 
To anyone in the UK, you might like to know that there's a quiz on 
ITV1 tomorrow at 17:15.  It's between 4 of 'Harry's biggest fans' to 
win a chance to go to Edinburgh on the 16th.  There's also something 
on next week and JKR is going to read an extract of the book on the 
stroke of midnight - I'm feeling less upset that there's no Potter 
party near where I will be visiting next weekend!


Lynn:
 
Don't give up hope Karen.  Potterparties.com only lists one place in my area and yet I know the bookstore where I'm getting the book will be open.  Also, today I've noticed a few places that have started advertising that the book will be available at 12:01 including ASDA which is advertising that it will meet any advertised price.  So, perhaps when you get where you are going you'll find a store that will be open and having a party.
 
Cheers


 

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From casmir2012 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  9 21:33:45 2005
From: casmir2012 at yahoo.com (casmir2012)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:33:45 -0000
Subject: I am SO frustrated!!!!
In-Reply-To: <dajuli+3kuv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dapfrp+3gi6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dzny72" <dzny72 at y...> wrote:
> I am so angry right now and I just have to vent about it.  My local 
> Waldenbooks (only bookstore in town) has decided NOT to open at 
> midnight on the 16th--they will be opening at 8am.  When I reserved
> my copy, the clerk told me they would be opening at midnight, but
> when 
>

Marlo;

You may want to recheck with them.  I got a call today (saturday) from 
Waldenbooks saying they will be open now at midnight.







From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Sat Jul  9 21:46:41 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:46:41 -0000
Subject: Kitties and Theme Parks (FF)
In-Reply-To: <1120890932.8D328E0@dj11.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <dapgk1+2i32@eGroups.com>

Sarah wrote 

> > <<  Can anyone tell me if there is any truth in this? < Disney 
is in a
> > preliminary stage of constructing a Harry Potter-themed park.> >>

Heidi:

> I wish there was; I'd love a Hagrid's Area at Animal Kingdom.

*drifts off into dream...*

...Harry came to with a jerk.  Professor MacGonagall was looking at 
him expectantly.  "Well, Potter?  Have you read Chapter 17 of 
Advanced Transfiguration?  Or am I going to have to spell it out for 
you?"

Harry's mouth opened and closed, twice.

"Five points from Gryffindor for inattention.  Well, Miss Granger?"

"Professor, the Disnification curse is one of the most unpleasant 
forms of Dark Magic known.  At the Council of Warnerbros in 1931 it 
was very nearly declared to be Unforgiveable."

"Very good, Miss Granger.  And can you say what it does?"

"It is used to turn a perfectly decent fictional creature into 
something so revoltingly cloying that even the most ardent 
aficionado will find herself vomiting uncontrollably.  The witch or 
wizard points their wand at the object in question - very often the 
kind of fierce or monstrous animal that Professor Hagrid would call 
an interestin' creature - and says 'waltdisni'.  The creature 
undergoes a rapid transfiguration: a proud and stern creature such 
as a Hippogryph will develop a jovial smile and a folksy manner; a 
dangerous reptilian creature such as a dragon will find itself with 
amusingly clumsy extremities and is very likely to become fluffy and 
pale blue in colour.  A frankly repulsive creature like a Blast-
Ended Skrewt may be turned entirely to saccharine.  Even a creature 
driven almost entirely by instinct, such as an Acromantula, is 
liable to break into a merry dance, accompanied by music of such 
mind-numbing jollity that small children who are exposed to it will 
vow to have their brains pierced as soon as they grow up.  There is 
no known countercurse: once transfigured, the creature becomes 
permanently lodged in the public imagination, which withers and 
diminishes.  Even Lord Voldemort never-"

"Miss Granger!  He who must not be named, if you please!"...

*...wakes up.*

Ugh.  What a horrible nightmare!  Thank goodness it couldn't really 
happen.

Could it?

David





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  9 21:59:08 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:59:08 -0000
Subject: McGonagall in today's Daily Buzzword
In-Reply-To: <1c7.2c1d2f94.30018bdd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <daphbc+g16j@eGroups.com>

LOL!  When I was very small at school my teacher sent me to the 
secretary's office to ask for a tub of elbow grease upon seeing my 
blank look when she told me to use some!  I sort of knew I was being 
set up for something but went anyway!  It's quite a common trick 
played on apprentices on building sites I believe, along with 
sending them to ask for a 'long (weight) wait' or a tin of tartan 
paint!

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at a... wrote:
> This is in my email each today. Today's emailed word featured  
Professor 
> McGonagall.
>  
> What is the Daily Buzzword for July 9?
> elbow grease   \EL-boh-GREESS\  noun
> 
> What does it mean?
> : forceful effort  in doing physical labor
> 
> How do you use it?
> "You will be  polishing the silver in the trophy room with Mr.
> Filch," said Professor  McGonagall. "And no magic, Weasley --
> elbow grease." (J. K. Rowling, _Harry  Potter and the Chamber
> of Secrets_)
> 
> Are you a word wiz?
> How  old do you think the term "elbow grease" is?
> 
> A. Very old; medieval  laborers erecting castles probably used it.
> B. Old; Pilgrims who built  the settlement at Plymouth might have
> heard it.
> C. Fairly new; it  was first used during the construction of the
> Panama Canal.
> D. Very  new; NASA engineers coined it while working on the  Space
> Shuttle.
> 
> Answer: 
> The Pilgrims certainly labored hard  to build their settlement
> at Plymouth, and they may have used the term "elbow  grease"
> to describe their labor. "Elbow grease" first made its
> appearance  on the English scene back in the late 1600s, where
> it was immediately used as  a humorous euphemism for the sweat
> produced by hard work. It later came to  mean "effort in doing
> labor," the meaning we give it today. "Elbow grease"  tends to
> appear in more casual writing. For more formal writing,  you'd
> probably be better of with a word like "effort," "exertion,"
> or  "pains."
> 
> ***************************************************************
> Brought  to you by Merriam-Webster's Word  Central
> http://www.wordcentral.com
> ***************************************************************
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





From joseph at kirtland.com  Sat Jul  9 22:49:29 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:49:29 -0000
Subject: Jim Dale Audio Books
Message-ID: <dapk9p+5kb9@eGroups.com>

The five CD audio books arrived the other day from my eBay purchase.  
I'm thoroughly enjoying myself, listening for an hour or so each night 
prior to bed.  I'm about 1/2 way through listening to SS / PS right now.

Not only does Jim Dale have a pleasant voice to listen to, but by 
listening, I'm learning what I hope is the proper pronunciation of some 
of the words.

An example is the knut.  I have always thought this was pronounced as a 
single syllable, silent k, long u.  I would have never imagined it was 
pronounced as K-nut.

I seem to also detect that Jim Dale not only has his British accent, 
but there seems to be a touch of New England in there as well.

Does anyone else hear this?

Joe






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  9 22:54:26 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:54:26 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <dapk9p+5kb9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00be01c584d9$28fbafc0$0400a8c0@pensive>

I seem to also detect that Jim Dale not only has his British accent, 
but there seems to be a touch of New England in there as well.

Does anyone else hear this?

Joe

Sherry:

There was an interview with Jim dale today on NPR's Weekend Edition.  During
the interview, they asked him to read from Little women.  He said he didn't
know how to do an American accent.  When the interview told him it was New
England, Boston actually, he said he didn't even know Boston had an accent.
So, if there's a touch of New England, he doesn't realize it or recognition.
I admit I've listened to them numerous times, and I've never heard a New
England accent, but I'm from the Western US, so i might not recognize it
either!

Sherry




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 10 01:28:48 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:28:48 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <dapk9p+5kb9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEEDKDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Joe writes re Jim Dale]:
| I seem to also detect that Jim Dale not only has his British accent, 
| but there seems to be a touch of New England in there as well.
| 
| Does anyone else hear this?

[Lee]:
Nope, but he has been living in New York City for some time.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 10 02:51:13 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:51:13 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <00be01c584d9$28fbafc0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOKEDKDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

|
| Sherry:
|
| There was an interview with Jim dale today on NPR's Weekend
| Edition.  During
| the interview, they asked him to read from Little women.  He said
| he didn't
| know how to do an American accent.  When the interview told him it was New
| England, Boston actually, he said he didn't even know Boston had
| an accent.
| So, if there's a touch of New England, he doesn't realize it or
| recognition.

[Lee]:
OOOO! Sherry, I was just on the NPR site and I slogged through most of the
audio stream of Weekend Edition and didn't hear a nugget of our friend...Are
you sure it's Weekend Edition?

Even my search didn't pull up anything...<Sigh>

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Sun Jul 10 01:50:12 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:50:12 -0400
Subject: Jim Dale Audio Books
References: <dapk9p+5kb9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <039b01c584f1$b6df7610$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Joe:
> I seem to also detect that Jim Dale not only has his British accent,
> but there seems to be a touch of New England in there as well.
>
> Does anyone else hear this?


Hi Joe, I have all 5 of the Jim Dale books on audio tape and I have never noticed that that he has a touch of New England in his voice I mean but I certainly recognise that he has a British accent. 

from Mich Verrier.





From HMaffioli at cox.net  Sun Jul 10 03:11:59 2005
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:11:59 -0700
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
Message-ID: <004d01c584fd$22de1820$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>


Potter' crossword in the New York Times   
Posted by GERI
Source: The New York Times 

The New York Times will publish a Harry Potter themed crossword puzzle in tomorrow's paper. Some of the clues are: Draco Malfoy's mother? and Nickname of Peter Pettigrew?

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2509/nythpcrossword7be.jpg



http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2320/nythpclues5oc.jpg


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 10 03:19:01 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:19:01 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOKEDKDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <00db01c584fe$1f56a9a0$0400a8c0@pensive>

[Lee]:
OOOO! Sherry, I was just on the NPR site and I slogged through most of the
audio stream of Weekend Edition and didn't hear a nugget of our friend...Are
you sure it's Weekend Edition?

Even my search didn't pull up anything...<Sigh>

Lee :-)

Sherry:

you know, Lee, I'm not totally sure.  Perhaps it was Weekend all things
considered.  It's an hour long show, if that helps.  LOL.  I'm terrible
about the names of the various shows on NPR.

Sherry




From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 03:39:09 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:39:09 -0000
Subject: Jim Dale Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <039b01c584f1$b6df7610$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <daq58t+u56l@eGroups.com>

I wonder if the New England accent I seemed to notice was Jim's
sometimes pronounciation of his R's, or a nearly inaudible trailing R
in the last syllable of a word. Listening with headphones as I've been
doing might enhance any accent I perceive.

Joe

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Mich Verrier" <mich at n...> wrote:
> Joe:
> > I seem to also detect that Jim Dale not only has his British accent,
> > but there seems to be a touch of New England in there as well.
> >
> > Does anyone else hear this?
> 
> 
>
Mich:

 Hi Joe, I have all 5 of the Jim Dale books on audio tape and I have
never noticed that that he has a touch of New England in his voice I
mean but I certainly recognise that he has a British accent. 
> 
> from Mich Verrier.





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 10 04:02:02 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 10 Jul 2005 04:02:02 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1120968122.16.51794.m26@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 10, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 04:35:50 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 04:35:50 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <004d01c584fd$22de1820$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <daq8j6+p345@eGroups.com>

What fun!  The first crossword puzzle I've ever finished entirely!  
Took about 20 minutes - I had to wait till some rows or columns had 
their letters since I was a bit unsure of spelling of a couple words.

Nonetheless, I finished it!  Wouldn't it be something if this was 
*the* NYT Sunday Crossword!  :-)

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Heather Maffioli" 
<HMaffioli at c...> wrote:
> 
> Potter' crossword in the New York Times   
> Posted by GERI
> Source: The New York Times 
> 
> The New York Times will publish a Harry Potter themed crossword 
puzzle in tomorrow's paper. Some of the clues are: Draco Malfoy's 
mother? and Nickname of Peter Pettigrew?
> 
> http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2509/nythpcrossword7be.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2320/nythpclues5oc.jpg
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 10 05:13:01 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:13:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <004d01c584fd$22de1820$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEDLDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Wow!  Wish it was in text format or something...it's completely unreadable
being just a picture/graphic.  Boo-hiss!

Later,

Lee :-)
(Sitting in the kitchen with one of those old-fashioned helmet-style hair
driers...no kidding!) :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 05:29:42 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:29:42 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEDLDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <daqbo6+bftg@eGroups.com>

If you look at the link on mugglenet, you can click the thumbnails 
to get a full-size graphic.  From there, you should be able to print 
an easily readable puzzle.

BTW, Mrs Lee...  I've noticed your signature line for some time.  I 
really should add "N6DGY" to mine.  :-)

Joe
 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> Wow!  Wish it was in text format or something...it's completely 
unreadable
> being just a picture/graphic.  Boo-hiss!
> 
> Later,
> 
> Lee :-)
> (Sitting in the kitchen with one of those old-fashioned helmet-
style hair
> driers...no kidding!) :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 10 06:14:59 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:14:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <daqbo6+bftg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIEDMDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Joe says]:
| If you look at the link on mugglenet, you can click the thumbnails
| to get a full-size graphic.  From there, you should be able to print
| an easily readable puzzle.

[Lee]:
Doesn't work for a screen-reader, Joe.  The information has to be text, not
graphical, for the text-to-speech to work.  There are braille cross-words,
but I haven't seen one in years!

[Joe]:
| BTW, Mrs Lee...  I've noticed your signature line for some time.  I
| really should add "N6DGY" to mine.  :-)

[Lee]:
Ah--And do you have a Digi-peater for packet? :-)

Mostly, I do VHF, but I am a General class and occasionally get on
40-meters.  My husband, Art, K2TRK, does net control on the "72 Rag-chew"
net and is also an ECARS member.

73 & 88,
DE
N2FGC :-)

Cheers,
Lee
(Madison RO)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Sun Jul 10 03:36:14 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:36:14 -0400
Subject: Question about HP Audio Books
Message-ID: <04d501c58500$8760f620$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Hi All. OK Today I was listening to my HP Audio books red by Jim Dale. Now the audio books I have are on tape and here's my question: a bit be for the end of side 2 of tape 6 of OotP, the tape stopped, I ejected it from the player and it seemed to be fine, there was no ribbon spilling out everywhere or anything like that. So I put it back in and pressed rewind and it did and then I pressed play and nothing happened, I heard no sound, so then I took it out again and gave it a slap with my hand and then I put it back in and the tape worked fine. Now the same thing happend with tape 11 of GoF and I did the same thing and again it worked fine after I gave it a bit of a slap with my hand. Now can any one please tell me what is going on? Is this problem happening because my tape heads are dirty? Or what? I look forward to hearing people's thoughts on this little problem. 

from Mich Verrier.





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 10 10:46:49 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:46:49 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about HP Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <04d501c58500$8760f620$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <001c01c5853c$ae10dd80$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hi All. OK Today I was listening to my HP Audio books red by Jim Dale. Now
the audio books I have are on tape and here's my question: a bit be for the
end of side 2 of tape 6 of OotP, the tape stopped, I ejected it from the
player and it seemed to be fine, there was no ribbon spilling out everywhere
or anything like that. So I put it back in and pressed rewind and it did and
then I pressed play and nothing happened, I heard no sound, so then I took
it out again and gave it a slap with my hand and then I put it back in and
the tape worked fine. Now the same thing happend with tape 11 of GoF and I
did the same thing and again it worked fine after I gave it a bit of a slap
with my hand. Now can any one please tell me what is going on? Is this
problem happening because my tape heads are dirty? Or what? I look forward
to hearing people's thoughts on this little problem. 

from Mich Verrier.

Sherry

Mich, sometimes, tapes just do that.  One of the cassettes in my audio
version of OOTP broke right after I listened to it the fist time.  a couple
of my SS/PS tapes pull kind of slow now.  They are just getting old.  A good
suggestion is to take the tapes that are giving you the problem and fast
forward them all the way through both sides several times, to loosen them
up.

Sherry




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 10 10:48:46 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:48:46 -0700
Subject: Jim Dale on NPR
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEDLDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c5853c$f3487070$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hi Lee,

i finally have the right info for you on the interview with Jim dale on NPR.
My friend who told me about the interview being on said the name of the show
was Weekend America.  i hope that helps you find it!  sorry for the
confusion.

sherry




From phil at pcsgames.net  Sun Jul 10 12:08:37 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:08:37 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale on NPR
References: <001d01c5853c$f3487070$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <183b01c58548$21af4000$6600a8c0@phil>

Hi Lee and others,
>From Weekend America for Saturday, July 9, 2005


A Man of Many Voices
Next weekend, the sixth book in the Harry Potter series hits the streets.
The books have hundreds of characters and Jim Dale voices them all. He's
brought
over 100 characters to life in the audio book versions of Harry Potter.
Weekend America host Barbara Bogaev talks with him about his unique line of
work.
You can hear Jim Dale if you have a Real Audio player.
http://weekendamerica.publicradio.org/programs/index_20050709.html



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:48 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale on NPR


> Hi Lee,
>
> i finally have the right info for you on the interview with Jim dale on
NPR.
> My friend who told me about the interview being on said the name of the
show
> was Weekend America.  i hope that helps you find it!  sorry for the
> confusion.
>
> sherry
>
>
>
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From lorelei3dg at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 10 13:58:28 2005
From: lorelei3dg at yahoo.com (lorelei3dg)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:58:28 -0000
Subject: Quibbler ad on JKR's site - POSSIBLE SPOILER
Message-ID: <dar9i4+q6cs@eGroups.com>

If this has already been discussed, please forgive me. I've been away 
and was just checking JKR's website to see if I'd missed anything 
when I noticed an ad for the Quibbler in the Rumours section.

Spoiler space just in case it's needed:
P
O
S
S
I
B
L
E

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

The ad ran as if it were headlines, saying "Fudge Forced to Flee" 
and "Minister for Magic Chased from Office," following up with "Can 
you afford NOT to read it?" OK, so the Quibbler also claims that 
crumple-horned snorkacks exist, but then again there are many readers 
who think that this magazine may actually be closer to the truth than 
it seems. Hmmm... 

Lorel





From shalimar07 at aol.com  Sun Jul 10 14:03:05 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:03:05 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about HP Audio Books
Message-ID: <e5.16f21187.30028499@aol.com>

I've listened to the tapes and never had a problem.  Go to your local  
Library and check them out to see if the same thing happens.  


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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 10 15:02:30 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 10 Jul 2005 15:02:30 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1121007750.20.40285.m9@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 10, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 17:18:22 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:18:22 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIEDMDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <darl8u+nj0m@eGroups.com>

Hello Lee,

Text-based clues have been e-mailed to you.  Unfortunately, I don't 
know how to represent the grid, but you'll be able to guess the 
words.

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> [Joe says]:
> | If you look at the link on mugglenet, you can click the 
thumbnails
> | to get a full-size graphic.  From there, you should be able to 
print
> | an easily readable puzzle.
> 
> [Lee]:
> Doesn't work for a screen-reader, Joe.  The information has to be 
text, not
> graphical, for the text-to-speech to work.  There are braille 
cross-words,
> but I haven't seen one in years!
> 
> [Joe]:
> | BTW, Mrs Lee...  I've noticed your signature line for some 
time.  I
> | really should add "N6DGY" to mine.  :-)
> 
> [Lee]:
> Ah--And do you have a Digi-peater for packet? :-)
> 
> Mostly, I do VHF, but I am a General class and occasionally get on
> 40-meters.  My husband, Art, K2TRK, does net control on the "72 
Rag-chew"
> net and is also an ECARS member.
> 
> 73 & 88,
> DE
> N2FGC :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Lee
> (Madison RO)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 10 17:21:52 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:21:52 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <darl8u+nj0m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003401c58573$ddc81de0$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hello Lee,

Text-based clues have been e-mailed to you.  Unfortunately, I don't 
know how to represent the grid, but you'll be able to guess the 
words.

Joe

Sherry

Hi Jo,

Can you also send them to me?  That would be great!

And if anyone would like an accessible computer Harry Potter trivia game,
check out the trivia games at 

www.kitchensinc.net

There's a big trivia game there as a free download, with several, more than
several different trivia games.  One is a Harry Potter game, though i think
it hasn't been updated since book four.

Sherry




From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 17:27:54 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:27:54 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <003401c58573$ddc81de0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <darlqq+fol5@eGroups.com>

Hi Sherry,

Check your e-mail.  :-)

Joe

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes"
<sherriola at e...> wrote:

> Sherry
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> Can you also send them to me?  That would be great!
> 
> And if anyone would like an accessible computer Harry Potter trivia
game,
> check out the trivia games at 
> 
> www.kitchensinc.net
> 
> There's a big trivia game there as a free download, with several,
more than
> several different trivia games.  One is a Harry Potter game, though
i think
> it hasn't been updated since book four.
> 
> Sherry





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 20:19:05 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:19:05 -0400
Subject: No hurricane deters ice cream!
Message-ID: <1a273840050710131966698db4@mail.gmail.com>

I'm rather amused by the fact I just heard the musical chimes of the
ice cream vehicle driving by... And then you switch to CNN and find
those reporters standing out in the storm further up in the state.

Well, maybe there's one good thing in that the hurricane didn't hit
the weekend of HBP's release.

Dina



From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sun Jul 10 21:41:59 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:41:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about HP Audio Books
References: <04d501c58500$8760f620$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <00a601c58598$34faebf0$48110b18@cauldron1>


Mitch, the problem is the Cassette sprockets.. sometimes they just jam up.
Which Is why I gave up on them and switched to AUDIO CD's.


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To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:36 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about HP Audio Books


> Hi All. OK Today I was listening to my HP Audio books red by Jim Dale. Now
the audio books I have are on tape and here's my question: a bit be for the
end of side 2 of tape 6 of OotP, the tape stopped, I ejected it from the
player and it seemed to be fine, there was no ribbon spilling out everywhere
or anything like that. So I put it back in and pressed rewind and it did and
then I pressed play and nothing happened, I heard no sound, so then I took
it out again and gave it a slap with my hand and then I put it back in and
the tape worked fine. Now the same thing happend with tape 11 of GoF and I
did the same thing and again it worked fine after I gave it a bit of a slap
with my hand. Now can any one please tell me what is going on? Is this
problem happening because my tape heads are dirty? Or what? I look forward
to hearing people's thoughts on this little problem.
>
> from Mich Verrier.
>
>
>
>
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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 10 22:55:34 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:55:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] NY Times HPotter Crossword!! --- What crap!!!
In-Reply-To: <004d01c584fd$22de1820$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20050710225534.71599.qmail@web53310.mail.yahoo.com>

I was hoping for a shout out from Will Shortz (editor of the NYTimes Crossword) to all us adult fans who enjoy a real crossword.  I wanted a crossword 'themed' puzzle that was relatively challenging: not some barely difficult, short-answer/fill-in-the-blank wordsearch that was super-hella lame.  Super hella.
 
No offense to those who enjoyed it.  I was expecting something entirely different.
 
I heart crosswords.
 
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 10 23:55:40 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:55:40 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!! --- What crap!!!
In-Reply-To: <20050710225534.71599.qmail@web53310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <daschs+86gg@eGroups.com>

I was at Barnes and Noble today in Orem, Utah, and I meant to pick up
a NY Times.  Unfortunately I forgot.  I did get a parody book titled
"Barry Trotter and the Unauthorized Parody" by Michael Gerber.  It
looked interesting enough to take a chance on.

I'm sure this crossword wasn't "the" NY Times crossword.  It looked
more like an advertising blitz by Scholastic and the Times best seller
list.

It might indeed be interesting to see a true NY Times quality (and
difficulty) Harry Potter themed crossword.

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, kemper mentor
<kempermentor at y...> wrote:
> I was hoping for a shout out from Will Shortz (editor of the NYTimes
Crossword) to all us adult fans who enjoy a real crossword.  I wanted
a crossword 'themed' puzzle that was relatively challenging: not some
barely difficult, short-answer/fill-in-the-blank wordsearch that was
super-hella lame.  Super hella.
>  
> No offense to those who enjoyed it.  I was expecting something
entirely different.
>  
> I heart crosswords.
>  
> Kemper
>  
> 
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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 01:45:55 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:45:55 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] NY Times HPotter Crossword!! ---
Message-ID: <bf.5b1a2030.30032953@aol.com>

I didn't find it challenging at all....Maybe someday someone will create  out 
that really makes you think or go running to your books to find the  answers.
 
Ahhhhh....someday my prince will come....the Half-Blood Prince that  is.
 
Shalimar


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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 03:17:46 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:17:46 -0000
Subject: Updates??
Message-ID: <dasocq+ju8p@eGroups.com>

So, only a bit over 5 days 'til HBP comes out, and we haven't heard a 
thing from Jo, I expected some updates on her website, at least the 
answer to her FAQ poll, but nothing. After we've all read HBP, IMO it 
won't matter if she answers the FAQ poll because we'll probably know 
the answer by then, so I bet this week we'll see some updates (I hope 
so).

By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 16th?

Juli





From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 11 03:39:12 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 20:39:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Updates??
Message-ID: <410-22005711133912515@earthlink.net>

> So, only a bit over 5 days 'til HBP comes out, and we haven't heard a 
> thing from Jo, I expected some updates on her website, at least the 
> answer to her FAQ poll, but nothing. After we've all read HBP, IMO it 
> won't matter if she answers the FAQ poll because we'll probably know 
> the answer by then, so I bet this week we'll see some updates (I hope 
> so).
>
> By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 16th?
>
> Juli


******************************************

Chancie:

I too believe that JKR will be making updates to her 
site soon.  It wouldn't have been much point in letting
us vote on questions to be answered in HBP otherwise.
I can't wait to see what she says though, I am one of the
most impatient people I know, and this wait for HBP 
is killing me! 

Oh, and I believe the list closure is to be for 85 starting 
when Britain reaches midnight, but I could ,of course, be 
wrong.  I believe the actual date of re-opening is  some
time during July 19.







From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 04:22:18 2005
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Fwd: [Harry_Potter_Wizard_World] cute
Message-ID: <20050711042218.90712.qmail@web40511.mail.yahoo.com>


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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Jul 11 05:59:59 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:59:59 -0000
Subject: Quibbler ad on JKR's site - POSSIBLE SPOILER
In-Reply-To: <dar9i4+q6cs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dat1sv+am16@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lorelei3dg" <lorelei3dg at y...>
wrote:
> and was just checking JKR's website to see if I'd missed anything 
> when I noticed an ad for the Quibbler in the Rumours section.
> The ad ran as if it were headlines, saying "Fudge Forced to Flee" 
> and "Minister for Magic Chased from Office," following up with "Can 
> you afford NOT to read it?" OK, so the Quibbler also claims that 
> crumple-horned snorkacks exist, but then again there are many readers 
> who think that this magazine may actually be closer to the truth than 
> it seems. Hmmm... 

Hi, Lorel, there's no need for a spoiler warning on that, because it
was mentioned in many posts when Rowling's web site was new. Some
people claimed that it only showed up on the left-hand page "Rumor"
and never on the right-hand page "Exclusive" and therefore wasn't true.





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 06:28:35 2005
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:28:35 -0000
Subject: Updates??
In-Reply-To: <dasocq+ju8p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dat3ij+oob3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at y...> wrote:
> So, only a bit over 5 days 'til HBP comes out, and we haven't heard a 
> thing from Jo, I expected some updates on her website, at least the 
> answer to her FAQ poll, but nothing. After we've all read HBP, IMO it 
> won't matter if she answers the FAQ poll because we'll probably know 
> the answer by then, so I bet this week we'll see some updates (I hope 
> so).
> 
> By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 16th?
> 
> Juli

Actually, the leading question, about how the Order communicates,
probably has a decent chance of *not* being answered in HBP -- which
means Jo may not answer the FAQ poll for ages.

*sigh*

Annemehr





From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 11 08:20:00 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:20:00 -0000
Subject: Timezones and HBP Release
Message-ID: <data3g+l0ds@eGroups.com>

OK, it's long past bedtime, but I was tossing and turning thinking
about the upcoming HBP release on Friday.

The Half-Blood Prince will be released throughout most of the English
speaking world at midnight local time.

In the case of Australia, they are 10 hours ahead of London.  Britain,
of course is what we might consider ground zero for Harry Potter.  So
will people in Sydney be reading the HBP while it is still only 2pm in
London?

Joe






From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Mon Jul 11 08:53:18 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:53:18 -0000
Subject: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <data3g+l0ds@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <datc1u+jmr4@eGroups.com>

Joe wrote:

> The Half-Blood Prince will be released throughout most of the English
> speaking world at midnight local time.
> 
> In the case of Australia, they are 10 hours ahead of London.  
Britain,
> of course is what we might consider ground zero for Harry Potter.  So
> will people in Sydney be reading the HBP while it is still only 2pm 
in
> London?

No.  Your first sentence isn't correct.

HBP release will be simultaneous in the Eastern Hemisphere at midnight 
UK time (i.e. British Summertime, which is one hour ahead of GMT) , 
and then follow local midnight westward across the western hemisphere.

So it will be available 9am local time in Sydney (I believe they are 9 
hours ahead at this time of year, not 10), 2am in South Africa, but 
local midnight in the UK, Ireland, and all parts of America.

David





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Mon Jul 11 08:58:25 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:58:25 -0000
Subject: Updates??
In-Reply-To: <dasocq+ju8p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <datcbh+265k@eGroups.com>

Juli:

> By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 16th?

See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/132099

You should have received that as a Special Notice e-mail - if you 
didn't get it, I suggest you contact the list-elves:

HPforGrownups-owner @ yahoogroups.com (remove the blanks when pasting 
into your email program)

David





From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Mon Jul 11 10:33:33 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:33:33 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <datc1u+jmr4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKMCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Joe wrote:

> The Half-Blood Prince will be released throughout most of the English
> speaking world at midnight local time.
>
> In the case of Australia, they are 10 hours ahead of London.

then David said:
HBP release will be simultaneous in the Eastern Hemisphere at midnight
UK time (i.e. British Summertime, which is one hour ahead of GMT) ,
and then follow local midnight westward across the western hemisphere.

So it will be available 9am local time in Sydney (I believe they are 9
hours ahead at this time of year, not 10), 2am in South Africa, but
local midnight in the UK, Ireland, and all parts of America.

then storm added:
in fact 9.01 annoyingly enough. I've been in today to my fav independent
bookshop to make sure they will be open and I will have a copy. Paid up
front and all. Organised to take the possum to the vet tomorrow (means
taking the day off work) instead of Saturday morning. Now I'm all set.

What I don't understand though is that the Bloomsbury website said:
"Immediately after midnight, at 00.01am on Saturday 16th July JK Rowling
will read from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in the Great Hall at
Edinburgh Castle"
http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=3

Edinburgh is 2 hours ahead of GMT so they are getting it two hours ahead of
the rest of us.

No Fair!! I want it when they get it! Where's my book!!!

storm, in Sydney




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From griffin782002 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 11:52:16 2005
From: griffin782002 at yahoo.com (Spiridoula)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:52:16 -0000
Subject: Bad News From London
In-Reply-To: <dak8ap+gd5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <datmhg+nls@eGroups.com>

Well I am not British, I am Greek, but I am a student there, in Wales 
not England, but I have spent some time there, I was there about a 
month ago. I stayed in a hotel not far from King's Cross. When my 
family and my mother in particular heard about which stations were 
attacked she got really terrified at the thought of what would have 
happened if I was at that time there.
Needless to say, some thought it was justified; someone send a 
message to a radio station saying that Bush and Blair have killed 
innocent people. Blair and Bush were in Edinburgh, not London and 
some of the dead would have joined protests against the war in Iraq. 
And a newspaper was crying to give us the Olympics again because the 
British are unable to do anything right. Three or four Greeks were 
among the injured...
On the other hand, few seem to care about Russia's treatment of the 
people of Caucasus, in this case those extremists are murderers.

Sorry if my message sounds too political or angry but for me killing 
innocent people is unacceptable whereever it happens.

Griffin782002    






From cat_kind at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 11:57:03 2005
From: cat_kind at yahoo.com (cat_kind)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:57:03 -0000
Subject: You know you're obsessed with Harry Potter when....
In-Reply-To: <000e01c31ca9$3cc94520$6501a8c0@MFD>
Message-ID: <datmqf+frl5@eGroups.com>

You keep obsessively clicking on the Mugglenet homepage just to see
the countdown ticker ticking.

catkind





From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Mon Jul 11 12:39:32 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:39:32 -0000
Subject: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKMCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <datpa4+kjhc@eGroups.com>

> What I don't understand though is that the Bloomsbury website said:
> "Immediately after midnight, at 00.01am on Saturday 16th July JK 
Rowling
> will read from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in the Great 
Hall at
> Edinburgh Castle"
> http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=3
> 
> Edinburgh is 2 hours ahead of GMT so they are getting it two hours 
ahead of
> the rest of us.

Edinburgh prides itself on being a progressive city, but as far as I 
know it keeps time with the rest of the UK, which is one hour ahead of 
GMT in the summer.  Nobody, apart from a very few directly connected 
with its publication, is getting it early.

David





From sally.grist at gristiegraphics.co.uk  Mon Jul 11 12:50:38 2005
From: sally.grist at gristiegraphics.co.uk (Sally Grist)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:50:38 -0000
Subject: Falkland Place...Muggle suburbia or gateway to wizard world?
Message-ID: <datpuu+vc1p@eGroups.com>

Dear all,

With the up and coming release of Book 6 I thought you might be 
interested in the following article: 

http://www.gristiegraphics.co.uk/funStuff/falklandPlace/

Constant vigilance everyone!






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 11 14:19:54 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:19:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fwd: [Harry_Potter_Wizard_World] cute
In-Reply-To: <20050711042218.90712.qmail@web40511.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Tasha]:
| Note: forwarded message attached.

Didn't see any attachment; they don't go through on many mailing lists.
Sorry.

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 11 14:19:54 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:19:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: NY Times HPotter Crossword!! --- What crap!!!
In-Reply-To: <daschs+86gg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Well, I didn't think much of the Trotter books.  I barely got through the
first chapter of the first one and found it rather--uh--offensive to me.
But, again, I'm a bit old-fashioned in my reading likes and dislikes.

Cheers (88(

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 11 14:19:55 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:19:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jim Dale on NPR
In-Reply-To: <183b01c58548$21af4000$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOKEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Phil, thanks!  I'll check it out.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 11 14:23:22 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:23:22 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question about HP Audio Books
In-Reply-To: <04d501c58500$8760f620$9a59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Often times, tapes stick, especially if they haven't been used or if there
are humidity changes, etc., etc.  The slapping is definitely a help, as well
as rewinding and forwarding completely through a time or two.  Sometimes, a
gentle squeeze may also resolve the problem.

The worst tapes are the ones with the soft or Mylar middles...they are
renowned for sticking, jamming and braking.

Good luck!

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 14:33:05 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Articles on HP
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <20050711143306.80740.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I read my newspapers on the 'net.  I thought I'd pass along links to two
articles I saw today.



USAToday:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2005-07-10-harry-potter_x.htm

CNN.com: 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/07/08/harry.potter.science.ap/index.html


MJ

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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 15:00:22 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:00:22 -0000
Subject: Updates??
In-Reply-To: <datcbh+265k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dau1i6+9gl0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "davewitley" 
<dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:
> Juli:
> 
> > By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 
16th?
> 
> See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/132099
> 
> You should have received that as a Special Notice e-mail - if you 
> didn't get it, I suggest you contact the list-elves:
> 
> HPforGrownups-owner @ yahoogroups.com (remove the blanks when 
pasting 
> into your email program)
> 
> David

Thanks for the link David! I was out of town last week so I didn't 
read any HPFGU mails.

Juli





From julie_balfour at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 15:08:56 2005
From: julie_balfour at hotmail.com (Boolean)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:08:56 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
Message-ID: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>

Reading alone or with friends?

For OOP I went along with a friend and queued till midnight, then we 
dashed home and read for as long as we could before falling asleep, 
pausing at the end of each chapter to discuss exciting bits or 
theories, or just say 'OH MY GOD!' etc.

However, this caused problems as we had different reading speeds, so we 
abandoned it and ended up reading most of it separately the following 
day.

This year we are buying it in the morning. Hopefully the weather will 
be good and we can make a day of it in the back garden with a picnic :)

Sorry, I know this is a lame question, but I am so excited that I will 
only think and talk about *anything* HBP-related till Saturday!

Boolean





From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 11 15:11:31 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:11:31 -0000
Subject: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKMCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <dau273+90qn@eGroups.com>

Joe:

Since I also have ham radio as a hobby, I thought I had a pretty 
good understanding of time zones.  Then again, most of the 
references ham operators use for world-wide contacts is in GMT and 
not local time.

Of course GMT does not follow daylight savings (summer time), so it 
is a constant.  

Looking at the time zones, it appears the whole of the UK is within 
the 0 meridian or same time zone.  How then does Edinburgh gain 
GMT+2 hours? Do they go on a double summer time schedule?

I'm really confused now!  :-)

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at b...> 
wrote:

> What I don't understand though is that the Bloomsbury website said:
> "Immediately after midnight, at 00.01am on Saturday 16th July JK 
Rowling
> will read from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in the Great 
Hall at
> Edinburgh Castle"
> http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=3
> 
> Edinburgh is 2 hours ahead of GMT so they are getting it two hours 
ahead of
> the rest of us.
> 
> No Fair!! I want it when they get it! Where's my book!!!
> 
> storm, in Sydney
> 






From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 11 15:22:00 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:22:00 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!! --- What crap!!!
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOIEECDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <dau2qo+n2rc@eGroups.com>

I haven't started reading yet.  Obviously, it doesn't hold anywhere 
near the same excitement as an official Potter release, or for that 
matter, a very well written piece of fan-fiction.  The book was on 
sale for six bucks, and that was inexpensive enough to grab my 
interest.

I had seen a couple Mad Magazine parodies in the past, and thought 
they were cute, so I thought I'd take a chance on  Trotter.  I'll let 
you know.

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> Well, I didn't think much of the Trotter books.  I barely got 
through the
> first chapter of the first one and found it rather--uh--offensive to 
me.
> But, again, I'm a bit old-fashioned in my reading likes and dislikes.
> 
> Cheers (88(
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From heidi8 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 15:28:55 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:28:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
References: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1121095739.379A1EA0@dj11.dngr.org>


On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 8:15 am, Boolean wrote about reading with a friend
>
> However, this caused problems as we had different reading speeds, so we
> abandoned it and ended up reading most of it separately the following
> day.
>
This is going to happen again, where people around the world finish at 
different times. That's why FictionAlley has set up a chapter by chapter 
forum at 
http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=214 
where there will be one thread per chapter, and an absolute bar on 
posting about subsequent chapters. It lets everyone read and discuss at 
the same speed, sort of.

And as the first person who posted here on OTC asking why Harry couldn't 
see Thestrals at the end of Book 4, I'm wibbling about being on the west 
coast for this release and thrilled that there's somewhere I can go 
whenever I finish a chapter and want to chat, wibble or squee.

Heidi from FictionAlley - the largest HP fanfic & Fanart site online
Http://www.fictionalley.org



From heidi8 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 15:33:00 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:33:00 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: NY Times HPotter Crossword!! --- What crap!!!
In-Reply-To: <dau2qo+n2rc@eGroups.com>
References: <dau2qo+n2rc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1121095985.3474D3C8@dg11.dngr.org>


On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 8:29 am, Joe Bento wrote about the Barry Trotter 
parody:
> I haven't started reading yet.  Obviously, it doesn't hold anywhere
> near the same excitement as an official Potter release, or for that
> matter, a very well written piece of fan-fiction.  The book was on
> sale for six bucks, and that was inexpensive enough to grab my
> interest.

Six bucks is also cheaper than what it costs to print out a novel length 
fanfic - we were just talking on the hp_paradise Yahoogroup about 
AngieJ's fics, both of which are over 650 MSWord -generated pages at a 
10pt font. Cassie's Draco Trilogy (Draco Dormiens, etc) is over 1500 
pages right now, and not fully done (but close!).

Heidi



From amis917 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 16:22:36 2005
From: amis917 at hotmail.com (amis917)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:22:36 -0000
Subject: HBP without a presale??
Message-ID: <dau6cc+fq9g@eGroups.com>

I am an idoit! Because I put things off until it's too late, I didn't 
get a HBP presale at any of the local stores. Now, aparently, it's too 
late. I was sure they'd presale until the last minute. That's not true. 
If I order it today from Amazon.com it'll still come in the mail on the 
16th. It's coming USPS though - and my mail doesn't arrive until around 
5pm. Are stores going to sell out? I could go on the morning of the 
16th and buy my copy, but if there aren't going to be any - I'll order 
it online today. I don't know what to do! Any advice??





From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 16:56:53 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:56:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HBP without a presale??
In-Reply-To: <dau6cc+fq9g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711165653.79775.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com>


--- amis917 <amis917 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am an idoit! Because I put things off until it's
> too late, I didn't 
> get a HBP presale at any of the local stores. Now,
> aparently, it's too 
> late. I was sure they'd presale until the last
> minute. That's not true. 
> If I order it today from Amazon.com it'll still come
> in the mail on the 
> 16th. It's coming USPS though - and my mail doesn't
> arrive until around 
> 5pm. Are stores going to sell out? I could go on the
> morning of the 
> 16th and buy my copy, but if there aren't going to
> be any - I'll order 
> it online today. I don't know what to do! Any
> advice??
> 
Don't give up hope. Did you call all the bookstores?
They said they're not pre-selling any longer, but does
that mean they don't have any copies left? I think
it's worth calling to check.

When OotP came out, one person in our group didn't
have a book pre-ordered. When it got close to
midnight, they had everyone line up in 2 lines, one
for those who'd pre-ordered and one for those who
hadn't. The person who hadn't in our group had no
problem getting a book. Mind you, we were among the
first in line and had our books 5 minutes after they
started selling. 

I honestly think it's worth a call to your local
bookstores to see if *all* their copies are pre-sold
or if they'll have extras for sale at midnight. 

Sheryll

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From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 17:02:19 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:02:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HBP without a presale??
In-Reply-To: <dau6cc+fq9g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711170219.37865.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- amis917 <amis917 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am an idoit! Because I put things off until it's too late, I didn't 
> get a HBP presale at any of the local stores. Now, aparently, it's too 
> late. I was sure they'd presale until the last minute. That's not true. 
> If I order it today from Amazon.com it'll still come in the mail on the 
> 16th. It's coming USPS though - and my mail doesn't arrive until around 
> 5pm. Are stores going to sell out? I could go on the morning of the 
> 16th and buy my copy, but if there aren't going to be any - I'll order 
> it online today. I don't know what to do! Any advice??
> 
> 


I don't think you'll have any problem getting a copy of the book, you'll
just probably end up paying more for it than if you'd pre-ordered it.  I'm
outside Nashville, which is a fairly large community, I know, but the
books are on sale everywhere, not just in the bookstores. Walmart, Target,
the box storese like Sam's and Costco, all of them.  Most Walmarts are
even open 24 hours, too.

I think if I were in your shoes, I'd just start making some phone calls to
see who's stocking the book and how late they're planning on being open.

MJ


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 17:33:06 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:33:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711173306.49197.qmail@web41122.mail.yahoo.com>

Boolean:
> Reading alone or with friends?
> 
> For OOP I went along with a friend and queued till
> midnight, then we 
> dashed home and read for as long as we could before
> falling asleep, 
> pausing at the end of each chapter to discuss
> exciting bits or 
> theories, or just say 'OH MY GOD!' etc.
> 
> However, this caused problems as we had different
> reading speeds, so we 
> abandoned it and ended up reading most of it
> separately the following 
> day.
> 
> This year we are buying it in the morning. Hopefully
> the weather will 
> be good and we can make a day of it in the back
> garden with a picnic :)
> 
> Sorry, I know this is a lame question, but I am so
> excited that I will 
> only think and talk about *anything* HBP-related
> till Saturday!
> 
Sheryll:
Definitely reading with friends! We'll gather together
at the bookstore around 10 when the festivities start
and head back to my house once we have the books in
our hot little hands. I suspect that, as with OotP,
we'll start reading the minute we're seated on a
public transit bus back to my place. Once home, we'll
take turns reading aloud. It worked last time for a)
keeping us all in the same place and b) letting us all
laugh/cry together at the same things.

We'll have salad, sandwich fixings and desserts -
things that people can easily wander about and help
themselves to without anyone having to tear themselves
away for too long to fix food. I had considered a hot
meal but am thankful I changed my mind as yet another
heatwave has hit us and will still be around on
Friday. With no air-conditioning, the last thing I
want to do is turn on an oven or stove. 

I'll also have bagels, cream cheese and juice for
breakfast. Somewhere along the line, we'll get a
little sleep. Last time we slept for about 5 hours and
picked up again as soon as we awoke. 

Most of the people coming to my place were volunteers
at Convention Alley last summer, so this is also a
wonderful opportunity for us to catch up with what
we've all been doing. Especially Brenda, who's coming
up from Toronto. *waves at Brenda* 

My daughter, age 21, is declining to read with us,
saying we're too slow. She will come to the bookstore
with us, but if there is anyone there that she knows
she won't hang out with us. Something about not
wanting to be seen with a bunch of crazy grown-ups in
costume. Am sure she'll wander down (she lives in the
apartment upstairs) to partake of food when she's
hungry, though. <vbg>

Sheryll, dancing with excitement

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From anurim at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 17:44:03 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:44:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HBP without a presale??
In-Reply-To: <dau6cc+fq9g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050711174403.41507.qmail@web32608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It probably depends on where you live, but I don't
think you'll have any problems getting a copy at
midnight. I didn't preorder OotP, just popped in
around 11pm and queued with all the others, and I got
my copy around half an hour after midnight. This time
I've cheched with my local Borders twice, and they
told me there is no need to prebook, they have such a
huge number of copies that everybody will get one - so
I didn't. It might be worth checking with
potterparties.com. They list all (most?) stores that
open at midnight, all over the world, and for each
party they say whether it's vital to prebook or not.
Both Waterstones and Borders in my town don't require
it, so you might be lucky too.

Hope this helps.

Mira

--- amis917 <amis917 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am an idoit! Because I put things off until it's
> too late, I didn't 
> get a HBP presale at any of the local stores. Now,
> aparently, it's too 
> late. I was sure they'd presale until the last
> minute. That's not true. 
> If I order it today from Amazon.com it'll still come
> in the mail on the 
> 16th. It's coming USPS though - and my mail doesn't
> arrive until around 
> 5pm. Are stores going to sell out? I could go on the
> morning of the 
> 16th and buy my copy, but if there aren't going to
> be any - I'll order 
> it online today. I don't know what to do! Any
> advice??
> 
> 
> 



		
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From lorelei3dg at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 18:30:58 2005
From: lorelei3dg at yahoo.com (lorelei3dg)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:30:58 -0000
Subject: Quibbler ad on JKR's site - not such a spoiler after all
In-Reply-To: <dat1sv+am16@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daudt2+4f52@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lorelei3dg" 
<lorelei3dg at y...>
> wrote:
> > and was just checking JKR's website to see if I'd missed anything 
> > when I noticed an ad for the Quibbler in the Rumours section... 
saying "Fudge Forced to Flee" 
> > and "Minister for Magic Chased from Office," ... Hmmm... 

Catlady:

> Hi, Lorel, there's no need for a spoiler warning on that, because it
> was mentioned in many posts when Rowling's web site was new. Some
> people claimed that it only showed up on the left-hand page "Rumor"
> and never on the right-hand page "Exclusive" and therefore wasn't 
true.

Ohhh. Just goes to show how well I pay attention to the ads on any 
site! Thanks for letting me know. 

Lorel





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 11 18:55:35 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:55:35 -0000
Subject: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <dau273+90qn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daufb7+i23b@eGroups.com>

It doesn't.  I'm British and I can assure you that the whole of the 
UK has the same time.  Greenwich Mean Time in Winter and British 
Summer Time in summer which is GMT +1.

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
wrote:
> Joe:
> 
> Since I also have ham radio as a hobby, I thought I had a pretty 
> good understanding of time zones.  Then again, most of the 
> references ham operators use for world-wide contacts is in GMT and 
> not local time.
> 
> Of course GMT does not follow daylight savings (summer time), so 
it 
> is a constant.  
> 
> Looking at the time zones, it appears the whole of the UK is 
within 
> the 0 meridian or same time zone.  How then does Edinburgh gain 
> GMT+2 hours? Do they go on a double summer time schedule?
> 
> I'm really confused now!  :-)
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at b...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > What I don't understand though is that the Bloomsbury website 
said:
> > "Immediately after midnight, at 00.01am on Saturday 16th July JK 
> Rowling
> > will read from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in the 
Great 
> Hall at
> > Edinburgh Castle"
> > http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/def_text.asp?sec=3
> > 
> > Edinburgh is 2 hours ahead of GMT so they are getting it two 
hours 
> ahead of
> > the rest of us.
> > 
> > No Fair!! I want it when they get it! Where's my book!!!
> > 
> > storm, in Sydney
> >





From candora2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 13:37:23 2005
From: candora2001 at yahoo.com (candora2001)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:37:23 -0000
Subject: NY Times HPotter Crossword!!
In-Reply-To: <003401c58573$ddc81de0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <datsmj+gvs5@eGroups.com>

could youy send me the clues too?
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Hello Lee,
> 
> Text-based clues have been e-mailed to you.  Unfortunately, I don't 
> know how to represent the grid, but you'll be able to guess the 
> words.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Sherry
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> Can you also send them to me?  That would be great!
> 
> And if anyone would like an accessible computer Harry Potter trivia 
game,
> check out the trivia games at 
> 
> www.kitchensinc.net
> 
> There's a big trivia game there as a free download, with several, 
more than
> several different trivia games.  One is a Harry Potter game, though 
i think
> it hasn't been updated since book four.
> 
> Sherry





From eileennicholson at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 20:21:16 2005
From: eileennicholson at aol.com (eileennicholson at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:21:16 EDT
Subject: Appreciation and feedback from London
Message-ID: <8d.2acb4e8e.30042ebc@aol.com>

I'd just like to say how we Londoners appreciate the thoughtful messages  you 
have posted over the past few days, as the dust settles after last week's  
attacks. Thank you for the reassurance that we all stand together.
 
I usually work in the City, just round the corner from where they  located 
the entrance to the Leaky Cauldron in the PS film. People working in  this area 
lost friends and colleagues in the 9/11 attacks and the tension, which  had 
relaxed for a while, is now back in full force. 
 
I was lucky to be working in one of the European offices, and knew more  
about events as they unfolded from internet sites than many  of the London-based 
teams. The mobile phone networks were jammed, and only text  messages seemed to 
be getting through. 
 
Families and friends have been catching up with eachother over the weekend,  
reassuring eachother that everyone's OK. 
 
Looking round the office, one colleague lives a few hundred yards  away, 
right opposite one of the target tube stations. Another, an HP  fan, was in a 
train that blew up near another tube station,  though fortunately not in the 
carriage containing the explosives, and left the  scene uninjured, suffering from 
shock and covered in soot and dust.  She bravely made her way back into the 
London office today and reports  that she was relaxed enough by Sunday to pick up 
an HP book  again.
 
Next week's publication date is starting to look like great timing - we can  
put muggle wars aside for a while; immersed in the wizarding  war....   


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From dzny72 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 22:03:30 2005
From: dzny72 at yahoo.com (dzny72)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:03:30 -0000
Subject: NY Times Crosword
Message-ID: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>

I tried to print it out from MuggleNet, but having extreme difficulty 
getting it to print out correctly.  Can anyone email it to me?  I would 
like to use it to pass the time in line on Friday night. . . 
Thanks a ton!!

Oh, also an update--my local Waldenbooks is STILL not opening at 
midnight-something about the mall that they are in. . .

Marlo





From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 11 22:27:25 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:27:25 -0000
Subject: NY Times Crosword
In-Reply-To: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <daurod+d9ef@eGroups.com>

That's too bad.  I'll be attending the release at a self-contained
Borders in Provo, UT.  However, the Waldenbooks that is in a local
mall will be open till Midnight as will a good number of stores, the
food court, etc.  The cineplex in the mall also plans on showing the
first three Potter films in succession with nominal admission fee.

Mugglenet seems nearly inaccessable right now.  They have posted a lot
of new photos showing cover differences, Amazon Books handling, etc.

Yahoo obscures e-mail addresses, and their message format doesn't
accept attachments.  Send me a brief e-mail through the "send
message", I'll then have your address, and can send you the puzzle.

Joe




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dzny72" <dzny72 at y...> wrote:
> I tried to print it out from MuggleNet, but having extreme difficulty 
> getting it to print out correctly.  Can anyone email it to me?  I would 
> like to use it to pass the time in line on Friday night. . . 
> Thanks a ton!!
> 
> Oh, also an update--my local Waldenbooks is STILL not opening at 
> midnight-something about the mall that they are in. . .
> 
> Marlo





From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Mon Jul 11 22:37:23 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:37:23 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Timezones and HBP Release
In-Reply-To: <datpa4+kjhc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPAELECMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>


David

Edinburgh prides itself on being a progressive city, but as far as I
know it keeps time with the rest of the UK, which is one hour ahead of
GMT in the summer.  Nobody, apart from a very few directly connected
with its publication, is getting it early.
+++++

Oh, My local time converter must be inaccurate then.

hmmph. still.

storm



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From amis917 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 23:12:47 2005
From: amis917 at hotmail.com (amis917)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:12:47 -0000
Subject: HBP without a presale??
In-Reply-To: <20050711174403.41507.qmail@web32608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dauudf+mnrp@eGroups.com>

Thanks everyone for the info! :) I called local stores...and it sounds 
like my best bet is going to be at Walmart. Target and Kmart aren't 
opening at midnight and Borders is going to have a TON of preorders 
there, so I don't really want to wait for all that. Same story with the 
local bookstores. Aparently, old Wallyworld didn't have preorders, so 
I'll just go there and wait. My lovely sister has volunteered to stand 
in line with me. She hasn't read a single word of HP, or seen the 
movies. I still can't figure out why she won't read it. She says "I 
don't NOT like HP, I just don't like it." Whatever! :) It's getting so 
close to HBP and I feel much better with a plan! :D Thanks again!


Amie (who is bummed because it's going to rain for three days straight 
due to Hurricane Dennis' leftovers)





From shalimar07 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 23:16:14 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:16:14 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
Message-ID: <fd.17601fd5.300457be@aol.com>

I've ordered 2 copies of HBP One from Amazon.com and the extended version  
from Borders.  My daughter, a teacher will get the Amazon copy.  It  will be 
interesting to see if they get here the same day. The city I live in is  
notorious for getting a mail 1 day later than everyone else. And we don't get  the 
mail until around 2pm. So allowing for that and possible not getting my book  
until Monday I decided to take Tuesday off from work. Of course I may be tempted  
to go to the locale Walmart and buy it anyway. :(


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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 23:17:50 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (shalimar07 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:17:50 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Articles on HP
Message-ID: <9b.633cf764.3004581e@aol.com>

If you live in Oklahoma you should have noticed the Full Harry Potter page  
in the Destinations section of the Oklahoman.  Man, Scholastic and  Bloomsbury 
is going all out!


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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 23:22:18 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:22:18 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: NY Times Crosword
In-Reply-To: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>
References: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1121124140.2A4948C4@bb12.dngr.org>


On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 3:56 pm, dzny72 wrote:
> I tried to print it out from MuggleNet, but having extreme difficulty
> getting it to print out correctly.

We also have it up on the-leaky-cauldron.org and we're not having 
terrible downtime problems right now.

Try there?

Heidi from TLC




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 00:32:29 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:32:29 -0400
Subject: From HPFGU Re: Blaise Zabini
In-Reply-To: <dauniq+a6pq@eGroups.com>
References: <dauam9+uji5@eGroups.com> <dauniq+a6pq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a273840050711173256b97a49@mail.gmail.com>

In response to the infamous 'who the hell is Blaise Zabini' question,
Geoff posted this on HPFGU:

On 7/11/05, Geoff Bannister <gbannister10 at aol.com> wrote:
 
> The Lexicon adds the additional information that JKR has confirmed that
> he is a male student. (I've always maintained this because of Blaise
> Pascal, the famous French mathematician).

I'm amused because I recently read this too:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/indie_kate/1802.html  (male/male
slash orientated but PG13)

A snippet:
"Wrong?" Harry asked, glancing worriedly at the hand Hermione had lain
on his arm. "Oh nothing ? my friends and co-workers all turned out to
be gold diggers, my days are spent locked in my room, and I think I
interrupted Malfoy and Zabini in some sort of lewd sex act this
morning."

"Zabini!" Ron exclaimed. "I thought Malfoy was gay?"

"Zabini!" Hermione exclaimed. "I thought Malfoy was straight?"

The three teenagers sat in silence for a moment.

"I think he's a boy," Hermione finally said.

"No ? girl," said Ron.

"Sorry Ron, I'm with Hermione on this one ? Malfoy fills too many
stereotypes to be straight. Zabini is a boy."


Heh, my favorite characterization of Zabini is a transvestite [from
transsexual Transylvania].

Dina

From anurim at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 12 01:15:45 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:15:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <fd.17601fd5.300457be@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20050712011545.44779.qmail@web32608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If things go as planned, I'll go to Borders or
Waterstone (whichever has the smallest queue) to buy
the book on the night of July 15, then come back home,
unplug and switch off any telephoning devices I own,
in case anybody has the bad idea to wish me Harry
Birthday on Saturday and steals some quality time with
my precious new book, then I'll read as much of it as
possible before falling asleep... then I'll fall
asleep, wake up and read again, and repeat the
procedure until I finish it. Then I'll probably reread
OotP (hopefully I'll finish GoF before Friday) and go
back to read HBP again. In the meantime I'll probably
slip and read the messages on HPFGU, and curse the
three-posts-a-day rule in as many creative ways I can
think of... then go back to the book... then, sometime
next week, I'll come off the haze and start aching for
Book 7.

How does this sound for an exciting HBP-ing? :-)

But it's unlikely things will go as planned anyway...

Mira

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From catlady at wicca.net  Tue Jul 12 01:57:39 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:57:39 -0000
Subject: Possum and Olympics
Message-ID: <dav82j+s1d@eGroups.com>

Storm wrote in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27941 :

<< Organised to take the possum to the vet tomorrow >>

Possum? Short for opossum? The only native marsupial in North America?
What's it doing in New Zealand?

Spiridoula Griffin782002 wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27942 :

<< And a newspaper was crying to give us the Olympics again because
the
British are unable to do anything right. >>

Does that newspaper plan to PAY for the Olympics if they're moved to
Greece? 





From phil at pcsgames.net  Tue Jul 12 02:17:38 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:17:38 -0400
Subject: Half-Blood Prince in Braille and Electronic formats
References: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com> <1121124140.2A4948C4@bb12.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <013c01c58687$ee585340$6600a8c0@phil>

Hi Folks,
There are several ways of purchasing the new Harry Potter and the Half-Blood
Prince
book in Large Print, Braille or electronic formats if you are blind.

Bookshare.org http://www.bookshare.org/web/Welcome.html

Bookshare.org Will Have Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
Available on its Publication Date!

Continuing on our tradition of making high-interest books available to
our subscribers the day of their release, Bookshare.org is pleased to
announce that we will have Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
available on the day of its release, Saturday, July 16. Bookshare.org
staff will purchase a copy of the book that morning. Our team of in-
house volunteers will scan it, OCR it, give it a quick validation
check, then we will upload it to our site and make it available in
DAISY and BRF formats that same afternoon. We're excited and look
forward to having this latest addition the Harry Potter series
available to our subscribers, in accessible file formats and
compatible with the AT products you use. If you're not already a
Bookshare.org subscriber, but want to learn how you can become one so
you can get accessible formats of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood
Prince as well as the rest of our collection, which now includes more
than 22,750 titles, please visit www.bookshare.org/join. Note to join
you must supply a signed document that you are blind, or allow them to
check the National Library service for the Blind that you get books
from them. This last way is done each Wednesday and can take up to
five days to verify your status.

Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic
http://www.rfbd.org/HarryPotterinfo.htm HARRY POTTER COMES TO RFB&D?
The Countdown Begins!

Thanks to a little magic from Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic,
(RFB&D), Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince will be available to
RFB&D members at virtually the same time as the book is released
internationally. The latest title in the Potter series from author
J.K. Rowling will be recorded in a marathon session by a team of RFB&D
employees and volunteers on July 16 - the day the book is released -
so that RFB&D members will be able to read the guaranteed bestseller
at the same time as their friends and peers. RFB&D's accessible
audiobook is expected to be available the morning of July 18 on
RFB&D's AudioPlus? CDs and RFB&D's Classic cassettes.

Here's how to order your Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
audiobook:

1. If you have an active online account (or wish to activate one),
click on the "Log In to Order Now" button above to order the title.
Prior to July 18, the book will be available as a pre-order
reservation.

2. You may order by phone by calling RFB&D's Member Services
Department at 800-221-4792. Again, prior to July 18, the book will be
considered a pre-order.

3. You may fax in your order to 609-987-8116. Be sure to include your
member ID number.

4. You may e-mail your order to custserv at rfbd.org.

Be sure to include your member ID number.

Special CD Player Promotion!

RFB&D and longtime partner Telex Communications are working
collaboratively on the Harry Potter project by offering the compact
and portable DAISY-compatible Telex Scholar CD player at a special
price of $199 for members who order Harry Potter and the Half-Blood
Prince on CD between June 1 - July 31, 2005. That's $50 off the
regular retail price of $249!

To get Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince CD and the Telex Scholar
CD player at the special promotional price, you must call in your
order to RFB&D's Member Services Department at 800-221-4792. If you
are ordering the book only, (and not the CD player) you may order it
by the methods described above.

Royal National Institute of the Blind
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/
public_harrypotter.hcsp

New Harry Potter book to be accessible

Summary: Announcement about the new Harry Potter book and how you can
order your Braille copy!
'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince' by JK Rowling will be the
first ever novel in the UK to be published simultaneously in Braille,
large-print and standard print.

The Braille version will be published by RNIB on 16 July 2005
alongside the other versions. This will enable thousands of blind and
partially sighted children and adults to read the same book at the
same time as their sighted peers. Prior to this, blind book fans have
had to wait months or even years for the latest book to be
'translated' into Braille.

Ten-year-old Harry Potter fan Richard Wheatley, from Wandsworth in
South London, lost his sight when he developed a brain tumour at the
age of five. Richard, whose favorite Potter characters are the Weasley
twins, said: "I'm really excited that I'll be able to read 'Harry
Potter and the Half-Blood Prince' by myself. Last time I had to get my
mum to read it to me and it took two months to finish. This time, I
can get it as soon as my friends at school do and even read it in the
car and in bed at night when I'm supposed to be asleep!"

Bloomsbury will be publishing the large-print edition of 'Harry Potter
and the Half-Blood Prince' simultaneously on 16 July. Sarah Odedina,
Publishing Director of Bloomsbury Children's Books, said: "We are
delighted to be working with RNIB to ensure that all readers will be
able to enjoy the Braille, large print and standard print editions of
'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince' on the same publication day."

Denied the right to read

John Godber, RNIB's Head of Products and Publications, said: "The
right to read is often denied to people just because they're blind.
More than 95 per cent of books are never published in a format that
blind or partially sighted people can read such as Braille, large
print, or audio. This is partly due to technology and most publishers
not realizing that blind and partially sighted people want to read
books just the same as everybody else. Publishers as well as the
government share a responsibility to make that happen. RNIB, as part
of the Right to Read Alliance, has worked closely with JK Rowling and
Bloomsbury, the publishers of Harry Potter, to make this latest
installment available to blind readers."

JK Rowling said: "I'm delighted to be part of a publishing initiative
that gives blind and partially sighted children and adults the same
reading opportunities as sighted book lovers."

Buy your copy

You can buy a copy of 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince' in
Grade 2 Braille at the recommended retail price of ?16.99 from RNIB.
Telephone RNIB customer services on 0845 702 3153, email
cservices at rnib.org.uk or order via our online shop. Place your order
by Wednesday 13 July, to receive your book on Saturday 16 July.

18 point large print versions will be available from all libraries and
bookshops.

Bloomsbury will also be co-publishing with HNP Productions the
unabridged audio version of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince",
narrated by Stephen Fry, on 25 August.


National Braille Press http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/HALF.html

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (HALF)

Scholastic, the US Publishers of the Harry Potter books, officially
announced today that a Braille edition of Harry Potter and the Half-
Blood Prince would soon be available. Working with the National
Braille Press, Scholastic said that the book would be available no
later than July 19th of this year. Some 10,000 Braille editions of the
Harry Potter novels have been purchased by blind and visually impaired
readers. The companies are now working round the clock for the next
few weeks to make sure the newest edition of the books is ready for
their readers. Block quote start "According to the National Braille
Press, producing Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in Braille is
a massive, labor-intensive task that will result in the publication of
a nine-volume edition that spans 13.5 inches and weighs approximately
11 pounds. It will take only three weeks to transcribe, proof, emboss,
collate, and ship the Braille edition, because National Braille Press
will allocate sufficient resources to accomplish the monumental task
in order to meet Braille readers' request for timely access. Most
Braille publications can take months or years to go from a print
edition into a Braille edition." Block quote end Price: $17.99 Format:
Braille Price: $17.99 Format: Portabook (CD-ROM) Price: $17.99 Format:
Portabook (Floppy)




From joseph at kirtland.com  Tue Jul 12 02:33:32 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:33:32 -0000
Subject: Half-Blood Prince in Braille and Electronic formats
In-Reply-To: <013c01c58687$ee585340$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <dava5s+hlpf@eGroups.com>

What is the difference between a conventional CD player (self
contained, as on a boom-box or Walkman) and one marketed specifically
for the blind?  The price difference seems considerable!

Joe






From tinainfay at msn.com  Tue Jul 12 02:35:30 2005
From: tinainfay at msn.com (mrs_sonofgib)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:35:30 -0000
Subject: looking for story of Hermione as an old lady
Message-ID: <dava9i+plc1@eGroups.com>

Hi all!  It's been a while (cough, cough) since I've posted but I've
been lurking.  I remember reading a short story (kind of) of Hermione
as an old lady.  It was explaining how wizards age vs. us muggles.  In
the story she was spritely and would ride by on her bike and wave at
her neighbor who is aging normally.  I don't remember the rest of the
details.  Does anyone remember this and can you direct me to it?  Any
and all help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Tina





From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Tue Jul 12 02:35:24 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:35:24 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: Possum and Olympics
In-Reply-To: <dav82j+s1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D3B90C.5243.E412B@localhost>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 1:57, Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) wrote:

> Storm wrote in 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27941 :
> 
> << Organised to take the possum to the vet tomorrow >>
> 
> Possum? Short for opossum? The only native marsupial in North America?
> What's it doing in New Zealand?

Possums are a variety of marsupial native to Australia.

They were originally named by people who were only familiar with the 
North American opossum, hence the similarity in the names.

The Brush Tailed Possum was introduced into New Zealand from 
Australia in 1837 to start a fur industry, and there are around 70 
million brushtails in New Zealand today, where they are generally 
regarded as a pest.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From phil at pcsgames.net  Tue Jul 12 02:50:49 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:50:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Half-Blood Prince in Braille and Electronic formats
References: <dava5s+hlpf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01b001c5868c$8b81a500$6600a8c0@phil>

Hi Joe,
They are CD-ROM's with formatted electronic text rather than audio on them,
which takes a special reading device or software to convert to audio via a
speech synthesizer.
Phil


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> What is the difference between a conventional CD player (self
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> for the blind?  The price difference seems considerable!
>
> Joe
>
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 12 05:10:31 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:10:31 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <fd.17601fd5.300457be@aol.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOMEEIDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

[Shalimar]:
| I've ordered 2 copies of HBP One from Amazon.com and the extended
| version
| from Borders.  My daughter, a teacher will get the Amazon copy.

[Lee]:
What do you mean by the "Extended" version?  Curious Potterheads want to
know! :-)

Cheers,
Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 12 05:46:06 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:46:06 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Half-Blood Prince in Braille and Electronic
 formats
In-Reply-To: <01b001c5868c$8b81a500$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEEJDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Phil,
Can you write me off list? I can't find your address and it's omitted from
Yahoo's header.

Cheers,
Lee (n2fgc at arrl.net)




From zANYsARA at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Jul 12 05:44:14 2005
From: zANYsARA at HOTMAIL.COM (Sara Stuart)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:44:14 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F29A97F6088C26C0D514A85C2DF0@phx.gbl>

Friday is my birthday, so I have plans with some family and friends. After 
that I am going straight to barnes and noble to get my copy of HPB. Then I 
am going home to read until 3 or 4 am, do a paper route, and then read some 
more!
~Sara

>From: "Boolean" <julie_balfour at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
>Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:08:56 -0000
>
>Reading alone or with friends?
>
>For OOP I went along with a friend and queued till midnight, then we
>dashed home and read for as long as we could before falling asleep,
>pausing at the end of each chapter to discuss exciting bits or
>theories, or just say 'OH MY GOD!' etc.
>
>However, this caused problems as we had different reading speeds, so we
>abandoned it and ended up reading most of it separately the following
>day.
>
>This year we are buying it in the morning. Hopefully the weather will
>be good and we can make a day of it in the back garden with a picnic :)
>
>Sorry, I know this is a lame question, but I am so excited that I will
>only think and talk about *anything* HBP-related till Saturday!
>
>Boolean
>
>

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From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Tue Jul 12 07:07:31 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:07:31 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: Possums, a distraction from the WAITING
In-Reply-To: <dav82j+s1d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPCELNCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>


Storm wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/27941 :

<< Organised to take the possum to the vet tomorrow >>

Possum? Short for opossum? The only native marsupial in North America?
What's it doing in New Zealand?

Catlady you ask the best questions!
In short your possums are omnivores, pouched marsupials who have multiple,
multiple young (and not generally regarded as cute). Our possums are
primarily vegetarian (though some species are not too fussy) pouched
marsupials who have between one and four young, depending on the species
(and mostly regarded as cute unless you have one living in your roof or you
live in Tasmania).

The possum in question is in Australia and is a Common Brushtail Possum
(trichosurus vulpecula). She is an old girl who has been with me now since
the beginning of December 04. This extended stay has come about because she
initially had a very bad back injury which prevented her grooming. Her back
is great now, she has full movement but she has a mite overgrowth which is
proving very difficult to treat.

There are a roughly (very roughly) 20 odd species of possum in Australia,
depending on how you cut the sub-species. They range from the 4kg Mountain
Brushtail Possum down to a 40gram Pygmy Possum. The gliders are often lumped
in with the possums. Taxonomically (try saying that out loud) not all the
possums are in the same family and some of the possum families have gliders
in them. (they are sub-order Phalangerididia - unless they have been
re-sorted - if anyone actually wants to look them up). If you are interested
(even remotely) Anne Kerle's book " Possums; the brushtails, ringtails and
the greater gliders" (ISBN 0-86840-419-5), gives quite a good overview.

The possums in NZ, as Shaun has already mentioned, are one of more misguided
(stupid) thing people have done. Possums were imported and set free to be
the basis of a fur trapping industry and have gone on the eat just about
everything in sight. They strip forests, kill many of there birds and carry
diseases they don't carry in Australia. A classic case of the wrong animal
in the wrong place.

storm, and Mum, the possum who had quite a good vet visit thank you because
there was lots of banana involved. Yum.
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Tue Jul 12 12:47:24 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:47:24 -0000
Subject: Possums, a distraction from the WAITING
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPCELNCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <db0e4s+k84u@eGroups.com>

Sounds about like when they had the brilliant idea to bring rabbits 
from Europe to Australia.  Continents are likely isolated from each 
other for a reason to prevent such changes in ecosystems.

BTW, Rabbit Proof Fence was an excellent movie.  Rather difficult, 
though not impossible to find in the USA.

Joe

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com,
 "storm" <miss_megan at b...> wrote:

> The possums in NZ, as Shaun has already mentioned, are one of more 
misguided
> (stupid) thing people have done. Possums were imported and set free 
to be
> the basis of a fur trapping industry and have gone on the eat just 
about
> everything in sight. They strip forests, kill many of there birds 
and carry
> diseases they don't carry in Australia. A classic case of the wrong 
animal
> in the wrong place.






From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 12 13:49:38 2005
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:49:38 -0400
Subject: What will you be doing?
Message-ID: <006a01c586e8$948eac40$bb4b56d1@leeannlaptop>

I will be at a midnight release party with a friend. We aren't sure if we are taking our kids or not (6 of them). I will be reading after I get the kids to bed. My husband has promised to get up with them in the morning. He has been great even though he doesn't quite get the obsession.

Happy Reading!!!!
Leeann

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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jul 12 14:22:31 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:22:31 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <20050712011545.44779.qmail@web32608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db0jn7+7hcs@eGroups.com>

Well to start with I'm not going to be at home so my pre-ordered from 
Amazon copy will probably be taken back to the sorting office to await 
my collection on Monday morning.  I will go to the nearest book shop 
or supermarket first thing on Saturday morning to get a copy.

What I really am looking forward to doing is reading all the chapter 
titles and trying and work out what they mean.  Then I will have to 
wait till I go to bed that night and read as much if the book as I can 
otherwise I will be being rude to the person I am going away with!  
Actually I just want her to take her son and my son away to the beach 
and leave me to read, but that won't happen!!  I have taken Monday off 
work so if the worst comes to the worst I will wait till then and read 
it all in one hit.

Karen





From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 12 14:20:59 2005
From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:20:59 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <006a01c586e8$948eac40$bb4b56d1@leeannlaptop>
Message-ID: <db0jkb+vig2@eGroups.com>

My daughter and I will be sneaking out of a good-bye party for some 
friends to head 35 miles up the road to the nearest Barnes & Noble.  
(Even though we *could* have gone to the local Kroger grocery store at 
midnight, my 9-year-old daughter is dead set on going to B&N.)

So we'll have copy one in hand shortly after midnight, which I'll let 
her start reading in the car with the light on on the way home.  Then 
*I* will take the book & read a bit while I make her go to bed.

Unfortunately, I have a retreat to attend from 9am - 3pm on Saturday 
(who scheduled THAT, I want to know?!?) that I honestly cannot think of 
a way to get out of.  At least by the time I get home, we should have 
our Amazon copy, too, so I won't have to share.

Siriusly Snapey Susan






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 12 14:36:24 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:36:24 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db0jn7+7hcs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c586ef$15db0c70$0400a8c0@pensive>

I'm going with a friend to a local borders, where i have already preordered
the audio version on CD.  We are both blind and will be accompanied by our
guide dogs.  Mine happens to be a black lab, by the way, but she is far from
bear sized!  we'll go back to my friend's house and start reading the minute
we get back, reading till we can't stay awake anymore!  I'll stay at my
friend's for the weekend so we can read the entire book together.  This
friend is the one who got me started reading the books in the first place,
and it's kind of our tradition now to read each new one together.

I was struck by what one of you said about reading all the chapter titles
and trying to figure out what they mean.  If I could get the braille version
before the audio version, i would do the same thing.  I love reading tables
of contents!

when I go home, I have two people I have to tell who dies, before they will
read the book!  LOL.	


Sherry




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 12 16:35:42 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:35:42 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <000601c586ef$15db0c70$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEENDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Well, I still haven't decided whether or not to wear a wizard hat to B&N.
With my luck, I'll be the only one wearing one...Hmm--.

My brain is fried; I know it's been mentioned, but I can't remember the
answer:
Why the hey couldn't the publishers have waited just a few more days and
released HBP on Harry's Birthday?  Wow! What a marketing opportunity could
have been there...and really cool party ideas, too, like distributing little
birthday hats or, perhaps, little cupcakes with HP on the top, etc.

Curious minds want to know.

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Needing a pick-me-up...it's been a downer kind of morning.)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 17:00:25 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:00:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEENDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
References: <000601c586ef$15db0c70$0400a8c0@pensive>
	 <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEENDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1a27384005071210002ee13aef@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/05, (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) <n2fgc at arrl.net> wrote:

> Why the hey couldn't the publishers have waited just a few more days and
> released HBP on Harry's Birthday?  Wow! What a marketing opportunity could
> have been there...and really cool party ideas, too, like distributing little
> birthday hats or, perhaps, little cupcakes with HP on the top, etc.

If the book is released July 16 and Harry's birthday is July 31, your
definition of a 'few more days' doesn't match mine. {g}

Dina



From seuferer at netins.net  Tue Jul 12 20:20:19 2005
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:20:19 -0000
Subject: Update of Lost Souls Found
Message-ID: <db18m3+53ur@eGroups.com>

Lost Souls Found is now Complete!!  It is 57 chapters long, and an 
Epilogue.  My betas have all chapters, and I am editing their 
comments and corrections as fast as possible. As of today, it is 
posted through Chapter 53.  I am still very much `on target' to have 
the entire story posted before Friday night's release of HBP.

I am incredibly honored to announce that one of my readers has 
nominated this story for a Mulitfaceted Award in the Best Snape Fic 
category.  You can see all the nominees here:

http://magical-worlds.us/multifaceted/main.htm

There are some amazing fics there, it is truly thrilling to have my 
story be nominated.

So, Chapter updates: yesterday and today I have posted the following 
chapters: 

Chapter 49: Sacrifice (warning, character death--NOT Snape or Rowena)
Chapter 50: Coping (how everyone deals with the above)
Chapter 51: Unreasonable Demands--wherein we find out at last what 
it is that Voldemort wants from Severus as proof of his loyalty.
Chapter 52: Paying the Price--wherein Voldemort gets what he wants, 
in spite of Severus' best efforts.
Chapter 53: Final Battles--wherein the war reaches its climax and 
inevitable resolution.

To reprise the summary: 

Severus Snape and OFC, Romance/drama, hurt/comfort. After OotP so 
loads of spoilers for that book, but before Half Blood Prince; so AU 
to that book when it arrives.  Voldemort is out in the open; Snape 
is involved in DE activities because of his OotP Spy role.  A 
researcher from Ministry offers to aid and assist Dumbledore and is 
reacquainted with our Potion's Master whom she knew slightly from 
school. Snarky Snape, in depth plot. (Way too much plot for those of 
you who want PWP.) COMPLETE, though final chapters awaiting final 
revisions before posting.   Rated NC-17 for romantic/sexual content 
in later chapters as well as some graphic/mature dealings with the 
horrors of a Magical War.  Overall a romance, but I do not pull any 
punches when it comes to dealing with Snape as a Death Eater to 
maintain his `cover'.  War is gruesome.

http://www.fanfiction.net/~lisasimaginings 
Author page (see my cute family?and my hubby who has not cut his 
hair since HBP-release date was announced, just for me so he can 
dress as Snape for the book party!! What a guy! /vbg/)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1789723/1/ Story link at ffn

http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/authors.php?no=13713  Author Page at 
AFN
http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/story.php?no=25336 Story link at afn.

There are more specific Author's Notes which can be found in my 
LiveJournal.  Anyone may read my journal, though you must be a 
registered user there to post in it.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/weasleyfan/

Now that the story is complete, and as soon as I am done getting the 
chapters posted, I will begin going back and repairing the roughness 
and errors that have been gradually brought to my attention by my 
readers. Please continue to point these out as you find them--
'complete' in no way implies 'perfect' and I am always glad to 
improve.

As always, your comments and criticisms are appreciated and adored.

Hope you enjoy the chapters!
Shanti






From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 12 21:03:24 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (Jenny)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:03:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: An article from globeandmail.com
Message-ID: <12472272.1121202199554.JavaMail.news@chicodeb5.front.theglobeandmail.com>

Jenny (bamajenny12 at yahoo.com) thought you would be interested in the following article from globeandmail.com, Canada's leading source for online news: 

"B.C. store lets slip the new Harry Potter" 
Fourteen copies sold in advance of  worldwide publication date of 12:01 a.m. Saturday 
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050712.wxharry12/EmailBNStory/Entertainment/> 

Note from  Jenny: Very, very interesting.  
 
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From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 12 22:04:08 2005
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:04:08 -0000
Subject: Books sold in Canada already...
Message-ID: <db1eoo+d1qu@eGroups.com>

14 of them.

I wonder how much those people got to read before they brought them
back.  As an incentive, they now get JK's autograph if they give it
back before they're officially released (they'll get their copies back
then).

I just wonder how much of the book they got through first....

-Jen, who wonders why darn little ol' Porterville never goofs up and
sells some by mistake before the release date.






From thekrenz at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 01:34:11 2005
From: thekrenz at yahoo.com (thekrenz)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:34:11 -0000
Subject: My gratitude to JK Rowling
Message-ID: <db1r2j+o4ki@eGroups.com>

I am a thrity-seven year old mother of two daughters (8 and 11) with 
whom I have shared my love (obsession) of Harry Potter.  I wish there 
were a way I could truely express my gratitude to JK Rowling for 
creating the literary world of Harry Potter.  My girls saw the SS and 
CoS movies before hearing the words from the books, and were fans of 
that medium instantly.  When I thought they were old enough, I read 
all five books to them.  Ok, so I needed an excuse to read the series 
again, but can you think of a better reason? My youngest immediately 
recognized the differences between the books and movies.  "That's not 
how the movie goes, Mommy!" she would say.  "That's right, honey, but 
you have to remember, the books tell the whole story.  You can't get 
into the characters' heads in the movie.  The books tell a more 
complete story." 

So my kids have a greater appreciation for the written word.  Thank 
you JK Rowling!  Before they found HP, reading a book was nearly 
punishment.  Now when I insist they go to sleep, I hear "Can I please 
finish this chapter?" from my oldest.  And, let's not slight the 
movies.  At least once every weekend one of my brood asks to watch 
one of the HP movies.  I recently purchased the soundtrack for PoA.  
What a wonderful cd that is!  Now my children (unknowingly) have 
gained a love for orchestral music.  We spent a 25 minute car ride 
identifying the musical instruments we heard on the cd.  

All I can do is post my appreciation on this list where adults 
understand how I feel about the world JK Rowling has created.  Thank 
you Ms. Rowling for expanding my daughters horizons and giving us 
something fantastic to be excited about *together*!

Cyndi
....waiting patiently for Saturday.....






From oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 01:31:51 2005
From: oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com (Diane)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:31:51 -0000
Subject: NY Times Crosword
In-Reply-To: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db1qu7+ip0p@eGroups.com>

-
if anyone else is having trouble printing  the puzzle i had to tape to 
papers together and change the setting on my printer. my mom is 
saving  me the real puzzle she gets the NY Times. hope i don't offend 
anyone just jumping in thanks  Diane

-- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dzny72" <dzny72 at y...> wrote:
> I tried to print it out from MuggleNet, but having extreme 
difficulty 
> getting it to print out correctly.  Can anyone email it to me?  I 
would 
> like to use it to pass the time in line on Friday night. . . 
> Thanks a ton!!
> 
> Oh, also an update--my local Waldenbooks is STILL not opening at 
> midnight-something about the mall that they are in. . .
> 
> Marlo





From oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 01:42:35 2005
From: oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com (Diane)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:42:35 -0000
Subject: Half-Blood Prince in Braille and Electronic formats
In-Reply-To: <dava5s+hlpf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db1rib+o09o@eGroups.com>

Joe <joseph at k...> wrote:
> What is the difference between a conventional CD player (self
> contained, as on a boom-box or Walkman) and one marketed 
> specifically for the blind?  The price difference seems 
> considerable!


 For the blind has raised dots that blind people can rub, that is how 
they read.

"Diane"







From oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 01:31:58 2005
From: oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com (Diane)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:31:58 -0000
Subject: NY Times Crosword
In-Reply-To: <dauqbi+2gb5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db1que+b1mu@eGroups.com>

-
if anyone else is having trouble printing  the puzzle i had to tape to 
papers together and change the setting on my printer. my mom is 
saving  me the real puzzle she gets the NY Times. hope i don't offend 
anyone just jumping in thanks  Diane

-- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dzny72" <dzny72 at y...> wrote:
> I tried to print it out from MuggleNet, but having extreme 
difficulty 
> getting it to print out correctly.  Can anyone email it to me?  I 
would 
> like to use it to pass the time in line on Friday night. . . 
> Thanks a ton!!
> 
> Oh, also an update--my local Waldenbooks is STILL not opening at 
> midnight-something about the mall that they are in. . .
> 
> Marlo







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 13 02:34:50 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:34:50 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My gratitude to JK Rowling
In-Reply-To: <db1r2j+o4ki@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOOEEPDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

Cyndi, Hi, :-)

On the POA Soundtrack, the second cut of Aunt Marge's Waltz is very
interesting.  There's a wonderful piece by Rosini called "The Thieving
Magpie" and, if you listen to that and then to Aunt Marge's Waltz, you will
laugh a good laugh.  John Williams really parodied or paralleled The
Thieving Magpie so brilliantly it's scarey!

All I know is when I listened to Aunt Marge's Waltz for the first time, I
had to stop what I was doing, listen, and split my sides laughing.  My poor
Art had no idea what had set me off, so I played Magpie for him and followed
on with the Waltz.  He quickly grasped what was so amusing.

Music is a wonderful thing!

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From joseph at kirtland.com  Wed Jul 13 03:01:41 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:01:41 -0000
Subject: Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
Message-ID: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>

Hey all,

Though I missed most of it, I received a phone call from Jim a few 
minutes ago (12 July, 8:45pm), reminding me about my preorder and the 
midnight party at my local Borders.  

Of course it was a recording, and unfortunately I missed most of it as 
my mom rushed to find me and hand me the telephone.

This is one call I wish the answering machine had picked up!

Joe






From humwolf at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 02:56:27 2005
From: humwolf at earthlink.net (Donna Guiliano)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:56:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: What will you be doing?
Message-ID: <24245234.1121223387781.JavaMail.root@wamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


I had a total hip replacement on Saturday and just now feel up to reading email. My daughter knew I was going to be recuperating, so she ordered HBP for me from Amazon as a Christmas present. I will be waiting anxiously for the mail Saturday! I just hope I feel up to reading. I was reading Desolation Island (book 5 in the Master and Commander series) before surgery, but haven't had the energy to pick it up yet. My daughter, who lives outside of Boston, is going to her local B&N around 11pm Friday night after going to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. She and her 20 something friends are into Harry and Lemony Snicket. It's so cool.

Donna




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 13 03:17:51 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:17:51 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

How cool is that! :-)

Well, that's one drawback about pre-ordering from Amazon, I guess.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

| -----Original Message-----
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| To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
| Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
| 
| 
| Hey all,
| 
| Though I missed most of it, I received a phone call from Jim a few 
| minutes ago (12 July, 8:45pm), reminding me about my preorder and the 
| midnight party at my local Borders.  
| 
| Of course it was a recording, and unfortunately I missed most of it as 
| my mom rushed to find me and hand me the telephone.
| 
| This is one call I wish the answering machine had picked up!
| 
| Joe
| 
| 
| 
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From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 09:01:01 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:01:01 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <24245234.1121223387781.JavaMail.root@wamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <db2l8d+n9h0@eGroups.com>

My 6-year-old daughter and I will go to the HP party at our Borders 
bookstore (which has been completely redecorated with HP-styled signs, 
etc) and get our preordered copy at midnight.  Or I will at least; 
it's a little late for her, but they're having lots of fun activities 
for the kids.  My husband has promised to take the kids to the beach 
on Saturday so I can immerse myself in HBP.  So I don't plan to stay 
up all night... I like the idea of just reading the chapter titles 
(and maybe jacket sleeve.... maybe chapter one, I am dying to read 
this famous first chapter....), then sleeping on it.  POssibly 
literally.  I can't see anyone prying that book out of my hands, even 
in my sleep, until I'm done.

When OOP came out I had a newborn baby and spent several days carrying 
the baby in one hand and "the tome" in the other, propping it up on a 
nursing pillow, etc.  Worked just fine, but I'm really looking forward 
to having some uninterrupted quality time with HBP.

My foolish bookclub went and scheduled a meeting this Thursday... and 
it isn't even remotely HP-related.  How can I read this other book 
when I need to re-read GOF and OOP in preparation? Humpf.

-Andromeda





From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 09:17:54 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:17:54 -0000
Subject: Fascinating article on Harry Potter as our "modern muse"
Message-ID: <db2m82+pten@eGroups.com>

There was a really interesting article in the Washington Post a few 
days back (mentioned on TLC) about HP in the modern world.  I would 
highly recommend it.   The author looks at the message of the series 
in a way I'd never considered.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/07/08/AR2005070802282.html

If you can't use this link, go to the Leaky Cauldron and look under 
July 10 posts.. I think it is titled "the times they are a-changin'"

I'd love to hear what others think of his ideas.  Is Harry 
the "prophet and precursor of a new generation"?

Cheers,
Andromeda






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 13 09:26:38 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:26:38 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
References: <db2l8d+n9h0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a401c5878c$f9782920$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

I will be leaving at 6pm for an 8pm-3am
party at my local Waldens.  I plan to
be in costume with my brand new shiny
wand *hugs wand* and doing some FA
promoting.

I can't decide weather to stay for the
whole party or go home immediately and
start reading.  Guess I'll go how the
mood strikes me.

Saitaina
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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Wed Jul 13 10:44:13 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:44:13 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db2l8d+n9h0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db2r9t+n39v@eGroups.com>

Andromeda wrote:
> My 6-year-old daughter and I will go to the HP party at our 
Borders 
> bookstore (which has been completely redecorated with HP-styled 
signs, 
> etc) and get our preordered copy at midnight.  

I will go with my 12-year old to our local bookshop (about 10 
minutes walk) at midnight.  I have not pre-ordered; I don't see the 
point as in my experience the discounts offered on the day compare 
well enough with the pre-order discounts.

I'm intrigued he wants to come - we did the same two years ago and 
he must have enjoyed it, though his opinion of OOP is that it was 
rubbish.

> My foolish bookclub went and scheduled a meeting this Thursday... 
and 
> it isn't even remotely HP-related.  How can I read this other book 
> when I need to re-read GOF and OOP in preparation? Humpf.

Heh.  Mine is meeting Tuesday.  However, the book is Jeanette 
Winterson's Lighthousekeeping, which I am finding utterly 
mesmerising and expect no difficulty finishing off before Friday.

David





From paulined at optushome.com.au  Wed Jul 13 11:47:00 2005
From: paulined at optushome.com.au (Pauline)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:47:00 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db2r9t+n39v@eGroups.com>
References: <db2l8d+n9h0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050713212014.020716c0@mail.optushome.com.au>

I am in Sydney and will be going on the Gleewarts Express  (an old steam 
train) with my daughter to "Hogsmead", which I assume in Muggle Australia 
is Bowral.  When we get there we will get into our houses to receive the 
book to read on the way back.   We have to be at Central, the main city 
station at 5.30am.  Yes AM!!!!!!!!   Bloody hell!  Midnight is sounding far 
more civilized.  It is  midwinter and will still dark then.

It is organised by Gleebooks and they are being very cute about the whole 
thing - when I rang to order the tickets they answered with "Professor 
Dumbledore's Office".   No muggles or muggle currency is allowed on the 
train for buying sweets from the witch on the tea trolley.  Last time the 
trip was short and we got back to the city station at 9am to get the 
book.  They had fire eaters, a harp player, snake handler, magicians etc, 
which was was a wonderful experience, especially when shared with so many 
other HP fans.  Someone from our national radio station contacted me and 
wants to interview me on radio the next day to get my, and my daughter's 
impressions of the book, and when she rang me tonight said she would like 
to ring when we are on the train as well.  Eeek!    She said she saw my 
name in the HPFGU members list.

>
>----------

Love Pauline


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 13:13:29 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:13:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
References: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
	 <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/05, (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) <n2fgc at arrl.net> wrote:
> How cool is that! :-)
> 
> Well, that's one drawback about pre-ordering from Amazon, I guess.

I thought Borders merged with Amazon.com recently. {g}

Plus, the Jim Dale reminder is also emailed to you--or more like a
link to the recording.

Dina



From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 13:28:47 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:28:47 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003001c587ae$cda97020$0400a8c0@pensive>

Gosh!  I preordered my audio version from Borders.  I wish Jim Dale would
call me!  It would be almost as good as getting a call from Paul McCartney,
the only other "star" that would be a dream come true to have call.  Think
how fun it would be to be sitting here and to answer the phone and hear Jim
Dale.  Wow!

Sherry




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 14:08:21 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050713212014.020716c0@mail.optushome.com.au>
Message-ID: <20050713140821.66199.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My plans have all been turned upside down, thanks to Dennis.

I'll be at Barnes & Noble at Opry Mills in Nashville, TN Friday night for
their shindig.  I hope I can control myself during the trivia contest --
it's supposed to be for the kids, right?  :-)  Originally, I was supposed
to be on a plane to Jamaica early Saturday morning and I was looking
forward to having that flight as reading time.  Thanks to damage from
Dennis to the resort, I'm not going to Jamaica after all.  I know a lot of
people lost more than just a vacation to that storm, so I'm trying to keep
it in perspective, but I'm still disappointed.  Guess I'll be locking
myself in my room with a "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door to keep my kids
out instead!  

MJ




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From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 13:12:24 2005
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <1121257149.569.55912.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050713131224.51773.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


For the last book, I went the Amazon delivery route
(not literally, although I was tempted, since my FedEx
truck didn't arrive until 1:30 p.m.), but this book
has been pre-ordered from the Evanston, IL Barnes &
Noble, so I'm going to put in an appearance at their
HP party on July 15.  I've coerced - er - persuaded a
few 40-something friends to go with me, so we'll all
be there sans children. 

My ostensible reason for going is to observe the
hoopla firsthand as a student of performance, but of
course I really just want to get my hands on HBP at
the earliest possible moment.

akh, who fervently hopes her annual condo meeting
isn't on July 16, as has been rumored 

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From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 14:21:00 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An article from globeandmail.com
In-Reply-To: <12472272.1121202199554.JavaMail.news@chicodeb5.front.theglobeandmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050713142101.16709.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How in the world did this store "lit slip" the sale of the new book?  What
planet have they been on that they didn't know the book comes out at 12:01
July 16?  

Hogwash.  (I've always wanted to say that!)

MJ

--- Jenny <BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jenny (bamajenny12 at yahoo.com) thought you would be interested in the
> following article from globeandmail.com, Canada's leading source for
> online news: 
> 
> "B.C. store lets slip the new Harry Potter" 
> Fourteen copies sold in advance of  worldwide publication date of 12:01
> a.m. Saturday 
>
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050712.wxharry12/EmailBNStory/Entertainment/>
> 
> 
> Note from  Jenny: Very, very interesting.  
>  
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
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From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Wed Jul 13 15:36:07 2005
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:36:07 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
 <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
 <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f94a5537734fda08677a366e9132fe83@fandm.edu>

Dina:
> I thought Borders merged with Amazon.com recently. {g}
>
> Plus, the Jim Dale reminder is also emailed to you--or more like a
> link to the recording.

In my case, anyway, the message started playing as soon as I opened my 
email.  It was quite surprising, to tell you the truth.  Luckily, my 
work environment is intensely informal!

It was very cool, though.  Say, do you know if that 25% off Borders 
gives you for pre-ordering the book can be used toward buying an audio 
version as well?  Or can it only be used toward an actual physical 
book?

Laura




From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Wed Jul 13 15:48:56 2005
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:48:56 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] An article from globeandmail.com
In-Reply-To: <20050713142101.16709.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20050713142101.16709.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecf031a81e84d21e2f49437c50d8a0e1@fandm.edu>

MJ:
> How in the world did this store "lit slip" the sale of the new book?  
> What
> planet have they been on that they didn't know the book comes out at 
> 12:01
> July 16?
>
> Hogwash.  (I've always wanted to say that!)

TLC (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron) reported this morning that one copy 
got "accidentally" sold in upstate New York at a drugstore.  It's very 
strange, but I think I might believe them.  After all, one can easily 
see an employee of a drugstore coming in early one morning and 
unwittingly unpacking the books and setting them out without realizing 
what he was dealing with.  The article says the books were pulled from 
the shelves after about an hour.

Laura




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 15:56:25 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:56:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <f94a5537734fda08677a366e9132fe83@fandm.edu>
References: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
	 <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
	 <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
	 <f94a5537734fda08677a366e9132fe83@fandm.edu>
Message-ID: <1a2738400507130856460ec790@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/13/05, Laura Ingalls Huntley <lhuntley at fandm.edu> wrote:

> In my case, anyway, the message started playing as soon as I opened my
> email.  It was quite surprising, to tell you the truth.  Luckily, my
> work environment is intensely informal!

:-)  I opened up my email for the first time at work too but it didn't
start; I had to click the link.


> It was very cool, though.  Say, do you know if that 25% off Borders
> gives you for pre-ordering the book can be used toward buying an audio
> version as well?  Or can it only be used toward an actual physical
> book?

It doesn't have to be another book but I thought pre-ordering the
audiobook made a better deal at 40% before July 2 and 30% after.  If
you didn't have the preorder in, you could be paying the full price. 
I'm going to *try* 'stacking' Border coupons with preorders.  If it
doesn't work, I can always think about another nice item.

Dina



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 16:20:52 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:20:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Belated Birthday Wishes
Message-ID: <20050713162052.91676.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com>

*totters in under a heavy load of decorations,
stopping to wipe sweat from her brow*

Would someone please turn up the air-conditioning in
here? I'm dying under the weight of these boxes!

Belated birthday wishes to mohammedi and Anne
Urbanski. Owls can be sent directly to this list or
directly to mohammedi at: violettaprimrose at hotmail.com
and Anne at: anneu53714 at yahoo.com

*pops out of the room and reappears with 2 cakes*

I hope you both had magical birthdays and that your
copies of HBP are in your hands more promptly than
this birthday greeting. :)

Happy Birthday, mohammedi!
Happy Birhtday, Anne!

Sheryll the melting Birthday Elf, in the midst of yet
another heatwave

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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 16:24:40 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Sarah!
Message-ID: <20050713162440.57771.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>

*surveys newly tacked up decorations with
satisfaction, adding a sprinkle of floating glitter
just above the seating area*

Today's birthday honouree is Sarah. Birthday owls can
be sent care of this list or directly to Sarah at:
plungy116 at aol.com

I hope your birthday is filled with fun, food and the
company of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Sarah!

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Wed Jul 13 16:31:46 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:31:46 -0000
Subject: Birthday and what I'll be doing
Message-ID: <db3fli+u4pv@eGroups.com>

Thank you for the birthday wishes.  Hubby bought me a mini iPod, but 
I'm not sure my computer's up to it - so far it's taken it 40 mins to 
get one song (Arcade Fire, another Birthday pressie)and it's still 
going.

On Friday night I shall be stopping up to watch JKR at Edinburgh (ITV1 
at 23.15 I think - will check time), then I shall go to bed and get up 
early for my Amazon delivery.  (OOTP came at 7.30 on the morning it was 
published, so I am hoping for the same again)  If (God forbid) I miss 
the delivery I will not wait til Monday, but dash into town and go to 
Waterstones, WHSmiths, ASDA or anywhere else on the planet likely to 
sell one.  I have the weekend off and I'm going to use it!

Anyway, am working tomorrow and Friday, so will not be on list, and 
then we've got our blackout so I will wish you all "happy reading" and 
I hope we all enjoy and aren't too sad about whoever dies (if anypone 
truly does)

Sarah xx





From shalimar07 at aol.com  Wed Jul 13 18:11:38 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (mumweasley7)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:11:38 -0000
Subject: HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
Message-ID: <db3lgq+jupg@eGroups.com>

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

A
L
E
R
T
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
If you have not seen the just release FULL cover of the Deluxe 
addition (it can be found at Mugglenet or Veritiserum)you must check 
it out.  The picture is GREAT! Along with Harry and Dumbledore in 
the what looks like the forbidden forest you will see an old run 
down cottage, a knife in the tree, a snake on the door, a shadow of 
a person in the window, something in the trees and (oh my God, it 
can't be) a BAT swooping toward them.

Shalimar





From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Wed Jul 13 18:26:57 2005
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:26:57 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400507130856460ec790@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
 <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOGEFBDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
 <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
 <f94a5537734fda08677a366e9132fe83@fandm.edu>
 <1a2738400507130856460ec790@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd95d7396ee89136339d66e693a0ad40@fandm.edu>

I said:
>> It was very cool, though.  Say, do you know if that 25% off Borders
>> gives you for pre-ordering the book can be used toward buying an audio
>> version as well?  Or can it only be used toward an actual physical
>> book?

Dina:
> It doesn't have to be another book but I thought pre-ordering the
> audiobook made a better deal at 40% before July 2 and 30% after.  If
> you didn't have the preorder in, you could be paying the full price.
> I'm going to *try* 'stacking' Border coupons with preorders.  If it
> doesn't work, I can always think about another nice item.

As far as I can tell (and I could be wrong, but it seems this way from 
the website), you get the 30% off the CD audio books *without* any 
reservation.  $52.50 is just the price they're going to charge 
everybody.  So, if you use the 25% off, that comes out to $39.38.  Not 
bad, if you ask me, considering the CD version was originally $75.00. 
^_^

Laura




From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 17:43:08 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:43:08 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Birthday and what I'll be doing
In-Reply-To: <db3fli+u4pv@eGroups.com>
References: <db3fli+u4pv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050713104345863e0e@mail.gmail.com>

Sarah, belated birthday wishes from Germany!
I hope you'll have a great day!
Kathrin

On 7/13/05, Sarah <plungy116 at aol.com> wrote:
> Thank you for the birthday wishes.  Hubby bought me a mini iPod, but 
> I'm not sure my computer's up to it - so far it's taken it 40 mins to 
> get one song (Arcade Fire, another Birthday pressie)and it's still 
> going.
<snip>
> Sarah xx


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 15:55:17 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:55:17 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <20050713131224.51773.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1121257149.569.55912.m20@yahoogroups.com>
	 <20050713131224.51773.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005071308551b4bfae7@mail.gmail.com>

I actually haven't even introduced myself here cause I only joine dthis morning.

I'm Kathrin, a 21 year old student from Germany, living in
Frankfurt/Main. I absolutely love to read and I actually own Harry
Potter both in German and English and the first two books even in
French...

I pre-ordered HBP as soon as this was possible on Amazon.de and I
actually can hardly wait till Saturday till the mail man arrives (as
you, I have no doubt!) with my copy... I suppopse it will be pretty
much the same as with OotP when I actually was jumping up and down in
the kitchen as soon as I set eyes on the car of the mail man... My Mom
actually wondered whether I'd become insane ;-)
-- 
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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 20:02:30 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:02:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <20050713131224.51773.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1121257149.569.55912.m20@yahoogroups.com>
	 <20050713131224.51773.qmail@web30315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a273840050713130239d992cc@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/13/05, AnitaKH <anita_hillin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My ostensible reason for going is to observe the
> hoopla firsthand as a student of performance, but of
> course I really just want to get my hands on HBP at
> the earliest possible moment.

Ditto here.  I'm curious about seeing what both Barnes&Noble and
Borders does since both stores are within a five minute drive of each
other.

I'm guessing I'll hang around work until ~6pm, stop by my brother and
his wife's place to check up on their birds (cockatoo and cockatiel -
never enough 'cocks' in the house) while they're away for the weekend,
watch some TV there, head out to B&N to catch the 7:20pm EST
(hopefully, I have the time correct) airing of JKR's message, stick
around for a little while, go home, and then shortly before midnight
go to Borders for my preorder and speck out what that store did.

After reading HBP (I'm estimating I'll have an MP3 copy of HBP because
I have yet to finish reading an HP book in full), I'll resume my
current Smallville... 'detour'.

Dina



From SongBird3411 at aol.com  Wed Jul 13 20:03:50 2005
From: SongBird3411 at aol.com (songbird3411)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:03:50 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db3s36+ss78@eGroups.com>

Sadly, I will be working on Saturday.  I am going on vacation at the 
end of next week, so I couldn't ask for Saturday off.  Sigh.  The book 
is being delivered to me at work.  I am hoping it will be slow, so I 
can have time to read. 

I am so glad the lists are going down for at least that day.  I won't 
really be able to start reading until Saturday night.  I would be very 
tempted to read these lists while at work.  So, thanks to HPfGU for not 
giving me the opportunity to spoil myself.

Mindy







From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 20:55:24 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] MSNBC article and quiz
In-Reply-To: <db3s36+ss78@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050713205524.37564.qmail@web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There's a series of fun articles at this link, along with a quiz to test
your knowledge of HP in general.  The quiz isn't challenging at all, but
it's fun.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8554108/






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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 21:35:59 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:35:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Telephone reminder from Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <dd95d7396ee89136339d66e693a0ad40@fandm.edu>
References: <db206l+3ffu@eGroups.com>
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	 <1a2738400507130613663f29fa@mail.gmail.com>
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On 7/13/05, Laura Ingalls Huntley <lhuntley at fandm.edu> wrote:

> As far as I can tell (and I could be wrong, but it seems this way from
> the website), you get the 30% off the CD audio books *without* any
> reservation.  

Hm, now that you mention it, the emailed notification from Borders has
the book positioned next to a red circle '40% off with reservation'
(amused by how 'with reservation' is much smaller print) while the
audiobook has '30% off' and no reference to reservation.


> $52.50 is just the price they're going to charge
> everybody.  So, if you use the 25% off, that comes out to $39.38.  Not
> bad, if you ask me, considering the CD version was originally $75.00.
> ^_^

:-)

Dina



From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 22:35:28 2005
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:35:28 -0400
Subject: Books sold in NY
Message-ID: <000901c587fb$84456a90$0a5079a5@leeannlaptop>

Sorry if this has already hit the group, but my mother called me and told me she saw it on Fox News. 
I kind of wish it had been me. I don't think I would be able to restrain myself!
Leeann  
Harry Potter Book Accidentally Sold in NY

Wednesday, July 13, 2005



ROSENDALE, N.Y. - A drug store accidentally sold a copy of the latest Harry Potter (search) book to a woman ahead of Saturday's strict release time, but the customer said she will return it.

Mandy Muldoon said she was shopping with her 9-year-old son when she spotted a stack of the much-anticipated books on a shelf and purchased one. Christine Ekblom, a manager at the upstate New York pharmacy, said she believed it was the only copy sold.

"They were pulled off an hour after they were put on the shelves," Ekblom said. "It was a mistake."

The book, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (search)," has been shrouded in secrecy and its debut has been highly orchestrated to enable everyone - readers and reviewers, alike - to crack it open all at once. It's the sixth in J.K. Rowling's seven-book fantasy series on the young wizard.

Fourteen books were accidentally sold Thursday at a grocery store in Canada, but a judge ordered the customers not to talk about the book, copy it, sell it or even read it before its official release.

Muldoon's husband said the family would return the book to the publisher, though his stepson, Sylum Mastropaolo, admitted reading about two pages.

"We're going to do the right thing," Mike Muldoon said. "We don't want to ruin it for other kids and take away from the experience of everyone reading it together."

Kyle Good, a Scholastic (search) publishing spokeswoman, said the company was not aware of any other early sales in the United States. The company said Sylum would get a copy Saturday along with a gift pack.


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From michel56 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 23:02:27 2005
From: michel56 at earthlink.net (Michele)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:02:27 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What will you be doing?
References: <dau228+c8s7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008101c587fe$f10e5b20$46736e18@valued1c3ed06e>

I'll be heading to my local Barnes and Noble bookstore  with my friend for the party.    I preordered there ages ago, just after the release date was announced.  Hope they have a book for me,   ; 0)  

 I think I have another friend convinced into taking her 2 girls to the party, too.  They've been rereading ( who hasn't!) to catch up and I know they'd love it.  Then my friend and I will head back to my house and stay up reading until we can't see any more!   She is the only friend who shares my HP obsession (other than my niece but she's 1000 miles away from me) so it should be a great night.   I can hardly wait!

Michele
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Boolean 

  Reading alone or with friends?

  For OOP I went along with a friend and queued till midnight, then we 
  dashed home and read for as long as we could before falling asleep, 
  pausing at the end of each chapter to discuss exciting bits or 
  theories, or just say 'OH MY GOD!' etc........... <snip>



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From michel56 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 23:09:52 2005
From: michel56 at earthlink.net (Michele)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:09:52 -0000
Subject: HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
In-Reply-To: <db3lgq+jupg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db4700+m5f5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mumweasley7" 
<shalimar07 at a...> wrote:
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> 
> A
> L
> E
> R
> T
> .
> If you have not seen the just release FULL cover of the Deluxe 
> addition (it can be found at Mugglenet or Veritiserum)you must 
check 
> it out.  The picture is GREAT! Along with Harry and Dumbledore in 
> the what looks like the forbidden forest you will see an old run 
> down cottage, a knife in the tree, a snake on the door, a shadow 
of 
> a person in the window, something in the trees and (oh my God, it 
> can't be) a BAT swooping toward them.
> 
> Shalimar

Now Michele:

A bat? Oooo, I was thinking it looked like a hippogriff....
Perhaps Buckbeak to the rescue?! 
Geez, I don't know how I'm going to make it through the next
2 days at work........

Michele






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 13 23:55:50 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:55:50 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
In-Reply-To: <db4700+m5f5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEEFJDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>

I still want to know what the hey the "Deluxe and Extended versions are
compared to the average buy.  Is there more than one edition?

Cheers,

Lee :)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Thu Jul 14 00:05:16 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:05:16 -0000
Subject: An article from globeandmail.com
In-Reply-To: <ecf031a81e84d21e2f49437c50d8a0e1@fandm.edu>
Message-ID: <db4a7s+2atl@eGroups.com>

Laura wrote:

> TLC (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron) reported this morning that one 
copy 
> got "accidentally" sold in upstate New York at a drugstore.  It's 
very 
> strange, but I think I might believe them.  

The strangest thing of all is that 'Shop Sells Book' should be a news 
item.  Shows how weird we have all become.

;)

:D





From spin01 at aol.com  Thu Jul 14 00:51:17 2005
From: spin01 at aol.com (spinelli372003)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:51:17 -0000
Subject: Hubby and Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <db4cu5+h5kj@eGroups.com>

My husband has decided that he needs to understand all the of the Harry 
Potter stuff now.  2 days before the new book comes out.  He is driving 
me nuts.  He has seen the first 3 movies.  Which do not tell even a 
quarter of the story of each book.  But that gives him a sort of base 
point for each of those.  He has started listening to the 4th book on 
the CD player.  He stops me about every 4th sentence and says something 
like "Ok so Winkie found Rons wand........." He is not really hearing 
things its driving me nuts.  So just needed to vent.  He is however 
going with me at midnight on Friday to get the new book so guess I 
shouldn't complain to much right.......
sherry





From joseph at kirtland.com  Thu Jul 14 01:01:13 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:01:13 -0000
Subject: HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
In-Reply-To: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEEFJDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <db4dgp+50fh@eGroups.com>

My understanding is that the deluxe and extended versions just 
contain more or different artwork, plates, gilded pages, etc.  The 
text is not any different.

Joe

 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> I still want to know what the hey the "Deluxe and Extended 
versions are
> compared to the average buy.  Is there more than one edition?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 14 01:00:46 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:00:46 -0700
Subject: "Wedding Crashers" using HP/Cany Factory to promote itself.
References: <db4cu5+h5kj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00c701c5880f$79455100$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

The movie "Wedding Crashers" now has an
add out with what looks like a
chocolate covered back ground (don't
ask me to describe it, you just KNOW
it's chocolate) and the words "This
Friday is the magical event you have
been waiting for" done in a Lumos style
font.

Since "Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory" is released Friday (15 July)
and most fans will be preparing Friday
night for the midnight release, it's
pretty obvious what they were referring
to...

I just found it amusing.

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina


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From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Thu Jul 14 01:15:44 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:15:44 -0400
Subject: HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
References: <KPELJFOAIOMBHOEFLMFOEEFJDMAA.n2fgc@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <058501c58811$903cc350$5559e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>


Lee:
>I still want to know what the hey the "Deluxe and Extended versions 
> are compared to the average buy.  Is there more than one edition?


Mich Verrier now: Yes I would like to know the difference between 
the 2 editions and whether there are the same sort of editions for 
the audio books as well. 

from Mich Verrier.







From catlady at wicca.net  Thu Jul 14 01:59:45 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:59:45 -0000
Subject: Washington Post article
Message-ID: <db4guh+qlf2@eGroups.com>

Andromeda wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/28004 :

<< 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/08/AR2005070802282.html

I'd love to hear what others think of his ideas. Is Harry
the "prophet and precursor of a new generation"? >>

If Harry is prophet of the younger generation who take technology for
granted and can do all kinds of tech things that just confuse me, what
are we (that is, what am I, age 47) doing doting on him?







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 02:10:13 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:10:13 -0400
Subject: HBP audio to be online Fwd: for the HP fans w/DSL
In-Reply-To: <20050713221924.50762.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050713221924.50762.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005071319103085bcdf@mail.gmail.com>

Hm, remember what I said about probably not reading HBP in full,
instead, I'll listen to it.

Dina

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: {-|-}* Judith 

As soon as Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince goes
on sale, Australian radio station, 973FM will read
J.K. Rowling's sixth book in its entirety.

http://www.wizardnews.com/story.200507101.html

http://www.973fm.com.au/



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 02:19:03 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:19:03 -0400
Subject: Released to US early? Re: HBP audio to be online
In-Reply-To: <1a27384005071319103085bcdf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050713221924.50762.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com>
	 <1a27384005071319103085bcdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400507131919526c6fac@mail.gmail.com>

I just noticed the timezones:

Friday 15th July 2005 6:01PM (New York time)

US east coast gets to hear HBP six hours early?

Dina

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: {-|-}* Judith
> 
> As soon as Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince goes
> on sale, Australian radio station, 973FM will read
> J.K. Rowling's sixth book in its entirety.
> 
> http://www.wizardnews.com/story.200507101.html
> 
> http://www.973fm.com.au/
>



From swartell at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 03:17:12 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:17:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db0jkb+vig2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050714031712.8672.qmail@web53210.mail.yahoo.com>



I'll be home alone this weekend, waiting for my Amazon
order to arrive.  Husband is off performing (he's a
musician) and son is off at a two-week college
preview, so when the book arrives I will have no
distractions but the cat, who will be delighted to
have me sitting still for a change.  I will probably
polish it off before I go to sleep Saturday
night/Sunday morning.

I'm hoping that it arrives earlier than last time- it
was mid-afternoon and I was beginning to doubt it
would arrive that day.  

Sue


		
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 



From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Thu Jul 14 03:54:00 2005
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:54:00 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <008101c587fe$f10e5b20$46736e18@valued1c3ed06e>
Message-ID: <db4nko+gei6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michele" <michel56 at e...> 
wrote:
> I'll be heading to my local Barnes and Noble bookstore  with my 
friend for the party.    I preordered there ages ago, just after the 
release date was announced.  Hope they have a book for me,   ; 0)  

I'm going to a local bookstore that specializes in mystery books - we 
have a membership with them, because that's my wife's favorite genre 
of literature - this bookstore is sponsoring a party from 10 pm to 1 
am - given that few children are into the likes of Agatha Christie and 
Patricia Cornwall, I suspect the attendees will be primarily adult. 
I'm not sure what to expect, but if the atmosphere seems receptive, 
and if I fortify myself with a Kendall-Jackson or two aforehand, I may 
be persuaded to regale the assembled with a filk or two.

  - CMC





From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jul 14 04:57:10 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:57:10 EDT
Subject: What will you be doing?
Message-ID: <156.54cfb0f4.30074aa6@aol.com>

 
I will be visiting, in costume, both Borders and Barnes and Noble as  the two 
stores are less than 2 miles from each other. I've preordered  the book at 
one but still haven't figured out what I am going to do  about the audio book. 
Last time, I got one from one store and the other from the  other. (I was 
shopping for best price.)
 
The only drawback is that, even though I will get the books at midnight, I  
won't get to read them right away! :( 
 
Still, it is in good cause. The next morning I leave at 7:30 to host a HP  
book party at a third bookstore! I'm really looking forward to it. I will be in  
costume and have a few activities for kids and some trivia quizzes for both 
kids  and adults. There may be a costume contest too but I don't have say about 
that.  I'll also be rubber stamping lightning bolts on kid's foreheads (with 
HP tattoo  ink, of course!).
 
What activities would you like to see in a mall bookstore? Someone will be  
reading from the books. What else would be simple and fun, especially for  the 
kids while they wait in line?
 
Thanks!
 
---Mary



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From Lord1912 at juno.com  Thu Jul 14 05:01:53 2005
From: Lord1912 at juno.com (lord1912)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:01:53 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <20050714031712.8672.qmail@web53210.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db4rk1+2soa@eGroups.com>

I intend to do the same.   I have to work that night, starting a five
thirty, so I imagine the book will arrive before then.  Amazon did say
you'd get your money back if it didn't come that day.

Will they just deliver it to the mailbox, or will I have to sign for
it.

The last time, I did the midnight thing at the bookstore.


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sue Wartell <swartell at y...>
wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll be home alone this weekend, waiting for my Amazon
> order to arrive.  Husband is off performing (he's a
> musician) and son is off at a two-week college
> preview, so when the book arrives I will have no
> distractions but the cat, who will be delighted to
> have me sitting still for a change.  I will probably
> polish it off before I go to sleep Saturday
> night/Sunday morning.
> 
> I'm hoping that it arrives earlier than last time- it
> was mid-afternoon and I was beginning to doubt it
> would arrive that day.  
> 
> Sue
> 
> 
> 		
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Thu Jul 14 03:04:47 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:04:47 -0400
Subject: Released to US early? Re: HBP audio to be online
References: <20050713221924.50762.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com> <1a27384005071319103085bcdf@mail.gmail.com> <1a2738400507131919526c6fac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5882a$c8734a50$9059e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

> Dina:
>I just noticed the timezones:
>
> Friday 15th July 2005 6:01PM (New York time)
>
> US east coast gets to hear HBP six hours early?


 Mich Verrier Wrote:
What is the time zone in Canada? in Ontario? many thanks 
for any one who can ancer this question. 

from Mich Verrier from Elk Lake 
Ontario Canada.







From marilynpeake at cs.com  Thu Jul 14 06:04:26 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:04:26 -0000
Subject: HBP without a presale??
In-Reply-To: <dau6cc+fq9g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db4v9a+o6hb@eGroups.com>


You might want to check with other book stores.  I thought I had waited 
too late also; but, last night, I walked into Barnes and Noble and 
asked if I could reserve copies.  To my great surprise, they 
said "yes"; and I preordered 2 copies.

Best Wishes,
Marilyn

~~ Drink deeply by land or sea. Earth comes only once.~~
>From THE FISHERMAN'S SON Trilogy 
http://www.marilynpeake.com
http://www.thefishermansson.com

>From PIERS ANTHONY, best-selling, award-winning science fiction and 
fantasy author:
"Now I have read The Fisherman's Son.  This is a nice children's 
fantasy, grounded in realism."

>From JAMES A. COX, Editor-in-Chief of the MIDWEST BOOK REVIEW:
"The Fisherman's Son is a delightful and colorfully narrated tale which 
documents Marilyn Peake as a story teller of considerable narrative 
skill."
  
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "amis917" <amis917 at h...> wrote:
>> Because I put things off until it's too late, I didn't get a HBP 
presale at any of the local stores. Now, aparently, it's too late. I 
was sure they'd presale until the last minute. That's not true. 

>>  I don't know what to do! Any advice??





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 14 06:29:14 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:29:14 -0000
Subject: Released to US early? Re: HBP audio to be online
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400507131919526c6fac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db50nq+ub62@eGroups.com>

Sorry to crush your hopes but this was discussed on the main group 
and it was an error.  It will be read outside the bookshop but not 
broadcast.

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Dina Lerret <bunniqula at g...> 
wrote:
> I just noticed the timezones:
> 
> Friday 15th July 2005 6:01PM (New York time)
> 
> US east coast gets to hear HBP six hours early?
> 
> Dina
> 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: {-|-}* Judith
> > 
> > As soon as Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince goes
> > on sale, Australian radio station, 973FM will read
> > J.K. Rowling's sixth book in its entirety.
> > 
> > http://www.wizardnews.com/story.200507101.html
> > 
> > http://www.973fm.com.au/
> >





From seuferer at netins.net  Thu Jul 14 07:41:49 2005
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:41:49 -0000
Subject: Complete and Nominated! Lost Souls Found Snape fanfic
Message-ID: <db54vt+4lgc@eGroups.com>

Lost Souls Found is now complete, and posted in its entirety.  I 
beat HBP by 46 hours!  I would have never made it without my awesome 
Betas!!

I am incredibly honored to announce that one of my readers has 
nominated this story for a Mulitfaceted Award in the Best Snape Fic 
category.  You can see all the nominees here:

http://magical-worlds.us/multifaceted/main.htm

There are some amazing fics there, it is truly thrilling to have my 
story be nominated.

So, Chapter updates: yesterday and today I have posted the following 
chapters: 

Chapter 54: Recovery and Revelations
Chapter 55: As it Should Be
Chapter 56: Honeymoon (this is different on FFN than AFF for obvious 
reasons)
Chapter 57: Sabbatical and Homecoming
Epilogue

To reprise the summary: 

Severus Snape and OFC, Romance/drama, hurt/comfort. After OotP so 
loads of spoilers for that book, but before Half Blood Prince; so AU 
to that book when it arrives.  Voldemort is out in the open; Snape 
is involved in DE activities because of his OotP Spy role.  A 
researcher from Ministry offers to aid and assist Dumbledore and is 
reacquainted with our Potion's Master whom she knew slightly from 
school. Snarky Snape, in depth plot. (Way too much plot for those of 
you who want PWP.) COMPLETE!!   Rated NC-17 for romantic/sexual 
content in later chapters as well as some graphic/mature dealings 
with the horrors of a Magical War.  Overall a romance, but I do not 
pull any punches when it comes to dealing with Snape as a Death 
Eater to maintain his `cover'.  War is gruesome.

http://www.fanfiction.net/~lisasimaginings 
Author page (see my cute family?and my hubby who has not cut his 
hair since HBP-release date was announced, just for me so he can 
dress as Snape for the book party!! What a guy! /vbg/)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1789723/1/ Story link at ffn

http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/authors.php?no=13713  Author Page at 
AFN
http://adultfan.nexcess.net/aff/story.php?no=25336 Story link at afn.

There are more specific Author's Notes which can be found in my 
LiveJournal.  Anyone may read my journal, though you must be a 
registered user there to post in it.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/weasleyfan/

Now that the story is complete, I will begin going back and 
repairing the roughness and errors that have been gradually brought 
to my attention by my readers. Please continue to point these out as 
you find them--'complete' in no way implies 'perfect' and I am 
always glad to improve.

As always, your comments and criticisms are appreciated and adored.

Hope you enjoy the chapters!
Shanti






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 11:24:04 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:24:04 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Released to US early? Re: HBP audio to be online
In-Reply-To: <db50nq+ub62@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400507131919526c6fac@mail.gmail.com>
	 <db50nq+ub62@eGroups.com>
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On 7/14/05, Karen Barker <karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Sorry to crush your hopes but this was discussed on the main group
> and it was an error.  It will be read outside the bookshop but not
> broadcast.

Ah, bummer. :-\  It appeared they'd air the reading, hence, the
different timezones listed on Wizardnews and the fact the radio
station has an online feed.

Dina



From mongobongo38 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 14:21:40 2005
From: mongobongo38 at yahoo.com (mongobongo38)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:21:40 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <db5sdk+n0dc@eGroups.com>

Source URL: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html

HERE ARE SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE:

LifeSiteNews.com
Wednesday July 13, 2005


Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from
Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online
RIMSTING, Germany, July 13, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) -
LifeSiteNews.com has obtained and made available online
copies of two letters sent by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who
was recently elected Pope, to a German critic of the Harry
Potter novels. In March 2003, a month after the press
throughout the world falsely proclaimed that Pope John Paul II
approved of Harry Potter, the man who was to become his
successor sent a letter to a Gabriele Kuby outlining his
agreement with her opposition to J.K. Rowling's offerings. 

**************************************

In a letter dated March 7, 2003 Cardinal Ratzinger thanked
Kuby for her "instructive" book Harry Potter - gut oder b?se
(Harry Potter- good or evil?), in which Kuby says the Potter
books corrupt the hearts of the young, preventing them from
developing a properly ordered sense of good and evil, thus
harming their relationship with God while that relationship is still
in its infancy.

"It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter,
because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and
by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow
properly," wrote Cardinal Ratzinger.

**********************************************






From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 14:47:56 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (bamajenny12)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:47:56 -0500
Subject: HBP - Amazon Info
References: <db5sdk+n0dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e401c58883$357ffa00$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

Just received this from Amazon.....
Quote:
Hello from Amazon.com.

We're happy to let you know that we've begun preparing your
order for "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" for delivery.

You should have the book(s) in your hands no later than 7:00 p.m. in
your time zone on Saturday, July 16.  Most books will be delivered
by U.S. Mail, either with your regular mail delivery or in a separate,
special mail delivery.  Some orders may be delivered by UPS.  

Because our carriers are delivering hundreds of thousands of books
on that day, we do ask that you wait until 7:00 p.m. before
contacting customer service if you haven't received your order.

Although we're not requiring a signature, we still recommend that
someone be home to accept the package, as the driver may not leave
it on your doorstep if they don't feel it's safe to do so.

You'll receive our usual shipment confirmation e-mail after your
package leaves our fulfillment center.

Thanks for shopping at Amazon.com, and happy reading!

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From nantray at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 14:53:58 2005
From: nantray at hotmail.com (remarkably_raven)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:53:58 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <db5sdk+n0dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db5ua6+aa9m@eGroups.com>

Just another example of how religion likes to control the masses. I am 
RC by baptism, and am not very fond of the new pope at all. 

Anyway, back to reading.

Raven





From nantray at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 14:57:05 2005
From: nantray at hotmail.com (remarkably_raven)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:57:05 -0000
Subject: What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac8005071308551b4bfae7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db5ug1+a3c9@eGroups.com>

I will be attending a Midnight Madness Potter Party in my area. My 
family will be dressed up as characters from the books :)I can hardly 
wait !!! 

Raven





From maritajan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 15:11:06 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Barnes & Noble
In-Reply-To: <db5ug1+a3c9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050714151106.54020.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just saw on Mugglenet.com that Barnes & Noble is giving, with the new
book, one of those "LiveStrong" type bracelets, only in green with a
phoenix and July 16, 2005 printed on it.

I'm sure it's probably a first come/first served kind of thing....which
only enhances my consuming need to be at the mall tomorrow from 4:00 or
earlier on!  

I can't wait for tomorrow!!!!!!


MJ


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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 16:29:21 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:29:21 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <db5sdk+n0dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db63t1+m6c5@eGroups.com>

Well I read that article and I think we talked about this before. The 
author has put together bits and pieces of things and has tried to make 
it look like something the current pope said while he was pope. This is 
not true. He was writing a letter in 2003 to placate some rightwing 
religious nut and nothing more. I don't think that he has ever read the 
books. And he referred her to send the book to the man that did speak 
for the Church and gave a good review.

So until I hear it from the lips of Pope Benedict HIMSELF, I will not 
believe that he is personally, or as the leader of the Roman church, 
opposed to the HP books.

You can't believe everything that you read on the internet. Especially 
from some obscure so called news site.

Tonks_op





From DaveH47 at mindspring.com  Thu Jul 14 18:18:25 2005
From: DaveH47 at mindspring.com (Dave Hardenbrook)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:18:25 -0700
Subject: WARNING! -- Possible MAJOR spoilers on alt.fan.harry-potter!!!
In-Reply-To: <20050713015858.27810.qmail@web81610.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050713015858.27810.qmail@web81610.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1414819020.20050714111825@mindspring.com>

Tuesday, July 12, 2005, 6:58:58 PM, theotokos reported
(on the main List):

t> A Canadian store accidentally sold 14 books early.

Yes, and on the alt.fan.harry-potter newsgroup they're posting
spoilers like mad (*in* the Subject line!!).  I sincerely hope that
these spoilers are bogus, but let's not take any chances.

So whatever you do,
DON'T VISIT ALT.FAN.HARRY-POTTER BEFORE YOU'VE READ THE BOOK!!!!

-- 
Dave




From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 14 18:25:14 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:25:14 -0000
Subject: Harry, Harry everywhere...
Message-ID: <db6ama+ovmj@eGroups.com>

After I dropped my son off at nursery this morning I turned the 
radio on in the car for the rest of my drive to work and caught the 
back end of the news.  I was only really half listening but the news 
reader was talking about an old lady who heard noises from upstairs 
so called the police to come and deal with an intruder and when the 
two policewomen got there and went upstairs to investigate they 
discovered a rather disgruntled badger who had apparently wandered 
in, gone upstairs and then forgotten where the exit was!  He (the 
news reader, not the badger!) then proceeded to say (and my 
attention immediately snapped to) "Of course the badger is the 
emblem of Hufflepuff House at Hogwarts" whereupon you could hear 
other people in the studio all groaning and saying things like "Not 
again" etc!  It made my morning.

At lunchtime as many as possible of the staff at the hospital where 
I work all went and stood outside for the 2 minutes silence, which 
was very moving.  Then I came home.  

On the ITV teletext news page (for anyone in the UK who wants to see 
this with their own eyes) there is an article about a school in 
Leicester which had planned a Harry Potter Day for tomorrow, where 
the children were going to go in dressed up and they were going to 
do Magical Maths and Spelling and stuff but it has been cancelled 
due to worries about it leading children to 'evil'.  I really could 
not believe my eyes.  Do these people actually READ the books before 
they start pontificating (pun unintentional but apparently apt)?

Anyway only 1 day to go and as I'm away tomorrow this will probably 
be my last post pre-HBP so happy reading and listening everybody 
and 'see' you on 'the other side'!!

Karen





From tonisan9 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 17:39:25 2005
From: tonisan9 at hotmail.com (tonihollifield)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:39:25 -0000
Subject: Barnes & Noble
In-Reply-To: <20050714151106.54020.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db680d+t2vs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Marita Jan <maritajan at y...> 
wrote:
> I just saw on Mugglenet.com that Barnes & Noble is giving, with the 
new
> book, one of those "LiveStrong" type bracelets, only in green with a
> phoenix and July 16, 2005 printed on it.
> 
> I'm sure it's probably a first come/first served kind of 
thing....which
> only enhances my consuming need to be at the mall tomorrow from 
4:00 or
> earlier on!  
> 
> I can't wait for tomorrow!!!!!!
> 
> 
> MJ



When I called my local Barnes and Noble to pre-order, they told me to 
come early because they would be handing out wristbands starting at 
6pm to those who would be buying the book at midnight.  They said 
that once you have the wristband, you can leave and come back later 
during the party, but that you need the wristband to buy the book.  I 
was wondering if that's what mugglenet was referring to.

--Toni





From lszydlowski at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 17:28:57 2005
From: lszydlowski at hotmail.com (Lynete)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:28:57 -0000
Subject: Barnes & Noble  Update - squee!
Message-ID: <db67cp+eha5@eGroups.com>

*Squee!* Just checked at Barnes and Noble's website for the status of 
my HPB pre-order - it says : shipping and gave me a UPS trackiig number!
P.S: I ordered standard shipping.






From maritajan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 19:52:07 2005
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Barnes & Noble
In-Reply-To: <db680d+t2vs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050714195207.23673.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- tonihollifield <tonisan9 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> When I called my local Barnes and Noble to pre-order, they told me to 
> come early because they would be handing out wristbands starting at 
> 6pm to those who would be buying the book at midnight.  They said 
> that once you have the wristband, you can leave and come back later 
> during the party, but that you need the wristband to buy the book.  I 
> was wondering if that's what mugglenet was referring to.
> 
> --Toni
> 


I don't know for sure but I think they're different.  I was at B&N earlier
this week and checked in to make sure of the time everything was starting.
 The clerk held up a paper wristband, sort of like the ones you get when
you go in a bar or something so you can leave and come back.

MJ 


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From tonisan9 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 17:44:07 2005
From: tonisan9 at hotmail.com (tonihollifield)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <db63t1+m6c5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
> Well I read that article and I think we talked about this before. 
The 
> author has put together bits and pieces of things and has tried to 
make 
> it look like something the current pope said while he was pope. 
This is 
> not true. He was writing a letter in 2003 to placate some rightwing 
> religious nut and nothing more. I don't think that he has ever read 
the 
> books. And he referred her to send the book to the man that did 
speak 
> for the Church and gave a good review.
> 
> So until I hear it from the lips of Pope Benedict HIMSELF, I will 
not 
> believe that he is personally, or as the leader of the Roman 
church, 
> opposed to the HP books.
> 
> You can't believe everything that you read on the internet. 
Especially 
> from some obscure so called news site.
> 
> Tonks_op


I don't disagree with anything you said above, but I wanted to point 
out that this report also aired on ABC World News Tonight in the U.S. 
last night.  At the very least, it's not just obscure "news site[s]" 
that picked up the story.  In the same report, they discussed right-
wing southern (U.S.) evangelicals burning HP books in protest because 
the Bible says that sorcery is evil (at which point, I started 
yelling at the TV something to the effect of "do you people 
understand what 'metaphor' means!).  They also discussed the theory 
that Harry is a Christ-like figure.  

--Toni








From theotokos_8679 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 14 20:30:50 2005
From: theotokos_8679 at sbcglobal.net (theotokos)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:30:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Barnes & Noble
In-Reply-To: <20050714195207.23673.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050714203050.7462.qmail@web81603.mail.yahoo.com>

--- tonihollifield wrote:
> When I called my local Barnes and Noble to pre-order, they told me to 
> come early because they would be handing out wristbands starting at 
> 6pm to those who would be buying the book at midnight. They said 
> that once you have the wristband, you can leave and come back later 
> during the party, but that you need the wristband to buy the book. I 
> was wondering if that's what mugglenet was referring to.

MJ:  I don't know for sure but I think they're different. I was at B&N earlier
this week and checked in to make sure of the time everything was starting.
The clerk held up a paper wristband, sort of like the ones you get when
you go in a bar or something so you can leave and come back.

****I just called my local B&N.  The special wrist bands come when you purchase the book along with some other promotional items like a poster.  The first guy I spoke with didn't know anything about it but when I insisted he transferred me to a guy who knew.  They received all the special wrist bands and promo stuff yesterday.  No need to show up extra early to get on--you will get it at the cashier stand.





Theotokos

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From anurim at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 20:45:08 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:45:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The onion effect, or am I going mental?
Message-ID: <20050714204508.68841.qmail@web32611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You will probably hex me to an inch of my life, but I
confess that I didn't cry when Sirius died. I leaked a
bit when Dumbledore did his magic trick with points on
PS, but that's as much support as the tissue industry
got for me on the account of Harry Potter.

Yet, today, I was finishing GoF... at first I didn't
want to read the chapter happening in the graveyard,
but when I did... I cried all the way through Cedric's
death, Harry's fear, Peter's cut hand, Harry's
torture, his effort to push the beads towards
Voldemort's wand, his shock when his parents' shadows
came out, then his exhausting return to Hogwarts, and
I positively bawled when Dumbledore gave his discourse
in the honor of Cedric.

Do normal people react like this when they read the
book, or ought I check the state of my so-called
brain?

I am afraid now to start OotP. Think of how my nose
will looked tomorrow, as a squashed tomato... should I
start a new ship, based on my family relation with
Winky, perhaps?

Oh, and does it count as being obsesses with Harry
Potter if I wished two people today, without
realising, 'Harry Birthday'?

Rather shaken,
Mira


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From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 22:37:16 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:37:16 -0000
Subject: *HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
In-Reply-To: <db4dgp+50fh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db6pes+50ej@eGroups.com>

HI!

I should HOPE not !

I have seen the back-cover pic, but I can't remember where ?

Gail in IND 



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
wrote:
> My understanding is that the deluxe and extended versions just 
> contain more or different artwork, plates, gilded pages, etc.  The 
> text is not any different.
> 
> Joe
> 
>  
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
> the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> > I still want to know what the hey the "Deluxe and Extended 
> versions are
> > compared to the average buy.  Is there more than one edition?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Lee :)
> > 
> > Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> > I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> > Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> > I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> > Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 22:40:35 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:40:35 -0000
Subject: *What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db5ug1+a3c9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db6pl3+e7lv@eGroups.com>

HI!

Here in Ft Wayne, IND, the GeorgeTown SQ LIB is having a

H P Party, 9pm to 1am.   I hope to get my book there.

There is to be a guy, look's like Hagred ! ! !

SAT will be all day reading !

Gail in IND



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "remarkably_raven" 
<nantray at h...> wrote:
> I will be attending a Midnight Madness Potter Party in my area. My 
> family will be dressed up as characters from the books :)I can 
hardly 
> wait !!! 
> 
> Raven





From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 22:46:05 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:46:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] *What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <db6pl3+e7lv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050714224605.85061.qmail@web61025.mail.yahoo.com>


I'm going to stay up for "Midnight at the Castle" before hopping over to the 24hr Asda to pick up the book.

I've had an "IOU 1 weekend's undisturbed reading time" from my husband since Christmas. I'm going to use it.

Sam

 


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From ken at krislovlaw.com  Thu Jul 14 22:39:02 2005
From: ken at krislovlaw.com (kennymod)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:39:02 -0000
Subject: The onion effect, or am I going mental?
In-Reply-To: <20050714204508.68841.qmail@web32611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db6pi6+umfb@eGroups.com>

Mira:
> -but I confess that I didn't cry when Sirius died. 
> Yet, today, I was finishing GoF... I cried all the way 
> through Cedric's death, Harry's fear, Peter's cut hand, 
> Harry's torture, his effort to push the beads towards
> Voldemort's wand, his shock when his parents' shadows
> came out
> 
> Do normal people react like this when they read the
> book?> 


I agree.  I found that when I read GOF that end scene was so 
dramatic with Harry's parents and Cedric's death.  I did not 
react as emotionally with Sirius, eiter because of Spoilers, 
or more because in the heat of the battle you were not sure 
what the effect of the veil was, or until Saturday what may 
happen re Sirius. 

"kennymod" 





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 23:35:43 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:35:43 -0400
Subject: Busch Gardens sponsors party Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Barnes & Noble
In-Reply-To: <20050714203050.7462.qmail@web81603.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050714195207.23673.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	 <20050714203050.7462.qmail@web81603.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400507141635fdf3911@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/14/05, theotokos <theotokos_8679 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> ****I just called my local B&N.  The special wrist bands come when
> you purchase the book along with some other promotional items like
> a poster.  The first guy I spoke with didn't know anything about it but 

{g} I just got back from the Clearwater B&N and they're hyping their
event as a party to "rival the NY flagship".  Apparently, Busch
Gardens (http://www.buschgardens.com/buschgardens/fla/default.aspx )
is sponsoring the event and possibly other Tampa Bay area B&Ns.

Don't you just love sales hype? {quirks eyebrow}  Apparently, even a
small flyer gives a warning that folks may have to wait outside for
indoor space.  Well, I'll see it to believe it.  If possible, I'll
have my digital camera too.

It's Florida... where theme parks are abundant, even moving into a local B&N.

Dina



From wherr009 at umn.edu  Fri Jul 15 00:21:58 2005
From: wherr009 at umn.edu (wherr009)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:21:58 -0000
Subject: Canadian HP fans
Message-ID: <db6vj6+47jq@eGroups.com>

I have a question for the Canadian HP fans out there. 

Is there a Canadian version of the books?  And if there isn't do you get the American 
version or the British versions?  Just something I've been wondering for a while.

wherr009







From joseph at kirtland.com  Fri Jul 15 01:52:10 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:52:10 -0000
Subject: Canadian HP fans
In-Reply-To: <db6vj6+47jq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db74sa+andl@eGroups.com>

I believe Canadians essentially get the British editions (text and 
covers), published by Raincoast.  I haven't seen "adult" Canadian 
covers, as Bloomsbury in the UK prints.

Fortunately we Yanks get to enjoy a few extra British colloquialisms 
in the latter American books as the editors no longer try so hard to 
Americanize everything.

Joe


 

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "wherr009" <wherr009 at u...> 
wrote:
> I have a question for the Canadian HP fans out there. 
> 
> Is there a Canadian version of the books?  And if there isn't do you 
get the American 
> version or the British versions?  Just something I've been wondering 
for a while.
> 
> wherr009





From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 02:19:11 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:19:11 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <db5sdk+n0dc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db76ev+4935@eGroups.com>

Like anyone else, he is entitled to his opinion, however misguided. 
And it's not as if his opinion on anything whatsoever has any bearing
on my life.



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mongobongo38"
<mongobongo38 at y...> wrote:
> Source URL: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html
> 
> HERE ARE SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE:
> 
> LifeSiteNews.com
> Wednesday July 13, 2005
> 
> 
> Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from
> Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online
> RIMSTING, Germany, July 13, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) -
> LifeSiteNews.com has obtained and made available online
> copies of two letters sent by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who
> was recently elected Pope, to a German critic of the Harry
> Potter novels. In March 2003, a month after the press
> throughout the world falsely proclaimed that Pope John Paul II
> approved of Harry Potter, the man who was to become his
> successor sent a letter to a Gabriele Kuby outlining his
> agreement with her opposition to J.K. Rowling's offerings. 
> 
> **************************************
> 
> In a letter dated March 7, 2003 Cardinal Ratzinger thanked
> Kuby for her "instructive" book Harry Potter - gut oder b?se
> (Harry Potter- good or evil?), in which Kuby says the Potter
> books corrupt the hearts of the young, preventing them from
> developing a properly ordered sense of good and evil, thus
> harming their relationship with God while that relationship is still
> in its infancy.
> 
> "It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter,
> because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and
> by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow
> properly," wrote Cardinal Ratzinger.
> 
> **********************************************





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 15 02:21:28 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:21:28 -0400
Subject: Canadian HP fans
References: <db6vj6+47jq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <029301c588e3$edfd2070$8959e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>


wherr009:
>I have a question for the Canadian HP fans out there.
>
> Is there a Canadian version of the books?  And if there isn't 
> do you get the American version or the British versions?  Just 
> something I've been wondering for a while.


Hi.  To my knowledge there is no Canadian version of the books so 
we get the US version and in my case I get the audio version read 
by Jim Dale. 

from Mich Verrier. from Elk Lake Ontario Canada.





From dk59us at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 03:04:14 2005
From: dk59us at yahoo.com (Eustace_Scrubb)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:04:14 -0000
Subject: Canadian HP fans
In-Reply-To: <db6vj6+47jq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db793e+dcag@eGroups.com>

wherr009 wrote:
> I have a question for the Canadian HP fans out there. 
> 
> Is there a Canadian version of the books?  And if there isn't do you
get the American 
> version or the British versions?  Just something I've been wondering
for a while.
> 
> wherr009

Eustace_Scrubb:
The Canadian print editions are indeed the British editions, though
published by Raincoast Books rather than Bloomsbury.  The title of the
first book is _Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone_ in Canada;
it's "bogies" NOT "boogers" etc.  They have the same covers as the
British editions.  (I believe that Chapters/Indigo advertises the
"adult"-cover  versions on their website these days, too, though I
won't swear to it.)

Just to confirm that [English] Canada is still torn between British
and US influences, I'm pretty sure that the audio versions are the
US-Jim Dale ones rather than the UK-Stephen Fry sets.

Cheers,

Eustace_Scrubb
(who's not Canadian but has spent enough time in Canadian bookshops to
be certain on this point.)






From rbookworm46 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 03:40:07 2005
From: rbookworm46 at yahoo.com (rbookworm46)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:40:07 -0000
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter - Not!
In-Reply-To: <db76ev+4935@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db7b6n+mn0i@eGroups.com>

"slytherin_dragoon1" <lord1912 at y...> wrote:
Like anyone else, he is entitled to his opinion, however misguided. 
And it's not as if his opinion on anything whatsoever has any bearing
on my life.


Bookworm:
Here is the link to an audio from Catholic Insider:
(http://catholicinsider.com/scripts/index.php)
"Vatican Radio clears up the confusion about pope Benedict's alleged 
condemnation of the Harry Potter series! Listen to a special podcast 
in which a Vatican official says that there's nothing wrong with 
Harry Potter."

Instead of audio, here is the transcript: 
http://catholicinsider.com/scripts/hp_transcript.php

It's ironic you mention opinions.  Monsignor Peter Fleedwood clearly 
states:
"What my advice would still be to parents: if you're in doubt, read 
the books yourselves, the first one, that's the shortest one, and 
see what you think. Don't simply rely on somebody else's opinion, 
not even on my opinion, since it's only an opinion."

Looks like nothing but more hype (publicity?) from fear-mongers.

Ravenclaw Bookworm





From jazmyn at pacificpuma.com  Fri Jul 15 04:21:32 2005
From: jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (Jazmyn Concolor)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:21:32 -0700
Subject: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <1121398812.2999.86937.m7@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1121398812.2999.86937.m7@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D739CC.9000307@pacificpuma.com>

The Pope is just jelous because his books don't sell near as well and he 
can't make the midnight release.

Who cares what some git in a funny hat says anyways?

Jazmyn

>  
>





From srbecca at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 04:56:10 2005
From: srbecca at hotmail.com (Rebecca Dreiling)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:56:10 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Canadian HP fans
In-Reply-To: <029301c588e3$edfd2070$8959e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F346103955CFFAE6193E5C1A8D00@phx.gbl>

we get the bloomsbury..or brit version...aparently americans can't handle 
brit slang but canadians can.  Go figure, eh?

Rebecca





From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Fri Jul 15 05:34:21 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:34:21 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New Pope Disapproves of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com>
References: <db63t1+m6c5@eGroups.com> <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050715053421.GF19986@4dot0.net>

On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 05:44:07PM -0000, tonihollifield wrote:

> I don't disagree with anything you said above, but I wanted to point 
> out that this report also aired on ABC World News Tonight in the U.S. 
> last night.  At the very least, it's not just obscure "news site[s]" 
> that picked up the story.  In the same report, they discussed right-
> wing southern (U.S.) evangelicals burning HP books in protest because 
> the Bible says that sorcery is evil (at which point, I started 
> yelling at the TV something to the effect of "do you people 
> understand what 'metaphor' means!).  They also discussed the theory 
> that Harry is a Christ-like figure.

Well naturally they aired it, another HP book is imminent. This subject has
been floating around the web for the last few years, as a simple Google would
tell you. Merely a case of media having nothing better to do than to troll the
Net for a beat-up, and fundamentalist fools eager for any media exposure. And
people with nothing better to do than post it on a mailing-list.


ewe2, desirous of an end to the codswallop.

-- 
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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jul 15 06:11:40 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:11:40 +1000
Subject: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <20050715053421.GF19986@4dot0.net>
References: <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost>

I have arranged to have the day off to read Harry Potter and the Half 
Blood Prince which I will be picking up soon after 9am tomorrow 
morning (release time here in Australia is 9.01am - simultaneous 
release with London, but at a much more civilised hour). I have 
bought chocolate in both block and hot varieties (well, I have to add 
the milk and make it hot) and will be sitting down to read it in 
front of an open fire (it is winter here) with quiet classical music 
playing in the background, from cover to cover in one sitting. I am 
praying for foul weather as it is always more fun to be inside 
reading when the weather is awful outside (but I would like the foul 
weather to wait until I am home from getting the book).

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 07:04:19 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:04:19 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost>
References: <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com> <20050715053421.GF19986@4dot0.net>
	 <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050715000453e6a916@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/15/05, Shaun Hately <drednort at alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> I have arranged to have the day off to read Harry Potter and the Half 
> Blood Prince which I will be picking up soon after 9am tomorrow 
> morning (release time here in Australia is 9.01am - simultaneous 
> release with London, but at a much more civilised hour). I have 
> bought chocolate in both block and hot varieties (well, I have to add 
> the milk and make it hot) and will be sitting down to read it in 
> front of an open fire (it is winter here) with quiet classical music 
> playing in the background, from cover to cover in one sitting. I am 
> praying for foul weather as it is always more fun to be inside 
> reading when the weather is awful outside (but I would like the foul 
> weather to wait until I am home from getting the book).
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html


I will hopefully get my copy delivered by 1 p.m. tomorrow and then I
will not be available for anyone. The only thing I could agree to was
getting in the car around 6 p.m. to get my brother to some party cause
then it'll be even less noisy around here - which means less
disturbances for me while reading... From then on I will only be
sitting around some place maybe enjoying some tea, hot chocolate,
water etc. and reading as if there's nothing else on earth...Well, is
there?

-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
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From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Fri Jul 15 07:58:10 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:58:10 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac80050715000453e6a916@mail.gmail.com>
References: <db6897+8upa@eGroups.com> <20050715053421.GF19986@4dot0.net> <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost> <4e2ac80050715000453e6a916@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050715075810.GG19986@4dot0.net>

On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:04:19AM +0200, Kathrin P wrote:

> I will hopefully get my copy delivered by 1 p.m. tomorrow and then I
> will not be available for anyone. The only thing I could agree to was
> getting in the car around 6 p.m. to get my brother to some party cause
> then it'll be even less noisy around here - which means less
> disturbances for me while reading... From then on I will only be
> sitting around some place maybe enjoying some tea, hot chocolate,
> water etc. and reading as if there's nothing else on earth...Well, is
> there?

I will be skulking around the shop at about 6-6.30am tomorrow waiting for my
friends there to let me in and be the first in line :) I will natter to other
HP maniacs until 9.01am, get my HBP and scream home for the read. I'm getting
a lift with a friend who will be promptly ignored during said read, he will
have to amuse himself, he's been warned :)

The hot chocolate is an excellent idea, thanks Shaun! I may have to eat pizza
too.

ewe2, penguin in agony of expectation.

-- 
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From theadimail at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 15 08:39:26 2005
From: theadimail at yahoo.co.in (theadimail)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:39:26 -0000
Subject: A fan in Australia was Re: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost>
Message-ID: <db7snu+r2rv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> 
wrote:
> I have arranged to have the day off to read Harry Potter and the 
Half 
> Blood Prince which I will be picking up soon after 9am tomorrow 
> morning (release time here in Australia is 9.01am - simultaneous 
> release with London, but at a much more civilised hour). I have 
> bought chocolate in both block and hot varieties (well, I have to 
add 
> the milk and make it hot) and will be sitting down to read it in 
> front of an open fire (it is winter here) with quiet classical music 
> playing in the background, from cover to cover in one sitting. I am 
> praying for foul weather as it is always more fun to be inside 
> reading when the weather is awful outside (but I would like the foul 
> weather to wait until I am home from getting the book).

adi:
 I am in australia too and I was supposed to move my house today which 
I postponed because I didn't want any interruptions while reading the 
books. I never have met any other fans when I was in India so hoping 
to meet some maniacs in Sydney.
  Is it 9.01? Are u sure? Because I thought the store Borders was 
opening at 7.00 itself?And can someone tell me when I have to go the 
shop to stand in the line? I haven't pre-ordered so fans in Sydney 
please advise.
Bye
Adi
  






From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jul 15 08:47:20 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:47:20 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A fan in Australia was Re: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <db7snu+r2rv@eGroups.com>
References: <42D7E03C.25619.AC3582@localhost>
Message-ID: <42D804B8.32009.13AA149@localhost>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 8:39, theadimail wrote:

> adi:
>  I am in australia too and I was supposed to move my house today which
>  
> I postponed because I didn't want any interruptions while reading the
> books. I never have met any other fans when I was in India so hoping
> to meet some maniacs in Sydney.
>   Is it 9.01? Are u sure? Because I thought the store Borders was
> opening at 7.00 itself?And can someone tell me when I have to go the
> shop to stand in the line? I haven't pre-ordered so fans in Sydney
> please advise. Bye Adi 

It's definitely 9.01am, but some bookshops (including the large 
Borders stores) will be opening earlier to have Harry Potter parties 
of various sorts. They will not start selling the books until 9.01am, 
though.

I'm in Melbourne, not Sydney, but when Order of the Phoenix came out, 
bookshops I saw (in an outer suburb of Melbourne with a significant 
number of bookshops had decent sized queues by 7.30am, and they had 
mostly preorder people in them - people who hadn't preordered and 
just wanted to get in and out reasonably quickly probably started 
coming around 10.30am.

Half Blood Prince will probably have even more people, though.



Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Fri Jul 15 08:50:43 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:50:43 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A fan in Australia was Re: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <db7snu+r2rv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEPDCMAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

adi:
 I am in australia too and I was supposed to move my house today which
I postponed because I didn't want any interruptions while reading the
books. I never have met any other fans when I was in India so hoping
to meet some maniacs in Sydney.
  Is it 9.01? Are u sure? Because I thought the store Borders was
opening at 7.00 itself?And can someone tell me when I have to go the
shop to stand in the line? I haven't pre-ordered so fans in Sydney
please advise.
Bye
Adi

I checked with Gleebooks - in glebe - definitely 9.01am - darn it. Borders
may be opening early in town to 'party' or what ever but the books should
not be on sale until 9.01. Won't need to preorder I don't think.

Very sensible to not move house.

cheers

storm






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From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 09:00:45 2005
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:00:45 -0000
Subject: A fan in Australia was Re: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <db7snu+r2rv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db7tvt+ok3s@eGroups.com>

"Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...>  wrote:
> > I have arranged to have the day off..

> adi:
>  I am in australia too and I was supposed to move my house today which 
> I postponed because I didn't want any interruptions while reading the 
> books. I never have met any other fans when I was in India so hoping 
> to meet some maniacs in Sydney.

Valky:
I am a Brissy girl (Auusie too!) I 'll be waiting outside the store
with my preorder voucher utterly intact until the magic momnt that the
staff allows the sea of anxious and excited fan to flow into the
specailly designated HPB aisle (Yes they are having one :D)to purchase
our copies of the book. 

To get some quiet reading time I fear I may need to rug up my
munchkins and take a walk to the park for a windy morning of climbing
and bike riding, hopefully tiring them enough for a quietish afternoon
 on the couch, but can I wait that long ? (Dread!) 

Maybe I will send them out fishing with their father. :D
 

>   Is it 9.01? Are u sure? Because I thought the store Borders was 
> opening at 7.00 itself? And can someone tell me when I have to go  
> the shop to stand in the line? I haven't pre-ordered so fans in 
> Sydney please advise.
> Bye
> Adi

Valky:
Yes absolutely Adi, contracts are signed for 9:01 pm (GMT Midnight)
and not a second beforehand. Go to the stores around opening time
(approx 8:30 - 8:45 for most stores in Aus) or before so you can nab a
good spot in the queue. Plenty of places here in Brissy have gotten
extra stock (above expected sales which are quite high) of HBP for the
big day so you probably won't have trouble getting a copy and in some
cases you could probably rock up about 11:30 and get your copy (I did
with OOtP) all depending on your own circumstances.

Places that will have extra large stocks are Target, Kmart and
Discount Chains, if you're running late bypass the bookstores they'll
sell out first.

Happy Happy HBP Eve Adi!!

Valky







From julie_balfour at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 12:36:49 2005
From: julie_balfour at hotmail.com (Boolean)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:36:49 -0000
Subject: *What will you be doing?
In-Reply-To: <20050714224605.85061.qmail@web61025.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db8al1+ifq8@eGroups.com>

Sam Edwards wrote:
> 
> I'm going to stay up for "Midnight at the Castle" before hopping over 
to the 24hr Asda to pick up the book.
> 
> I've had an "IOU 1 weekend's undisturbed reading time" from my 
husband since Christmas. I'm going to use it.

I didn't know it was being broadcast (is this really thick of me?) 
Which radio/TV channel is it on?







From betsyfallon at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 12:42:40 2005
From: betsyfallon at hotmail.com (betsy fallon)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:42:40 -0000
Subject: N.E.W.T.
Message-ID: <db8b00+mfl3@eGroups.com>

I am having brain freeze this morning and I do not have my reference 
books with me.  Some one please tell me what this abbreviation means.  
I know is has to do with the tests, but please help.

Thanks


betsy







From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jul 15 12:44:50 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:44:50 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] N.E.W.T.
In-Reply-To: <db8b00+mfl3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D83C62.30645.214112A@localhost>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 12:42, betsy fallon wrote:

> I am having brain freeze this morning and I do not have my reference
> books with me.  Some one please tell me what this abbreviation means. 
> I know is has to do with the tests, but please help.

Nastily Exhausting Wizarding Test

I like acronyms. (-8

And Harry Potter really has some good ones.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz  Fri Jul 15 13:12:19 2005
From: vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz (Vinnia)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:12:19 +1200 (NZST)
Subject: Jo's other poll questions
Message-ID: <20050715131219.44699.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi guys,
 
Desperately need help here. Anyone knows the other two questions on Jo's latest poll?
 
Thanks for the help
 
 
Vinnia

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From lawtrainer at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 13:14:48 2005
From: lawtrainer at yahoo.com (Jana Fisher)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:14:48 -0000
Subject: FAQ Poll Answered
Message-ID: <db8cs8+97ri@eGroups.com>

http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/faq_poll.cfm

Not sure if this has been posted or not....





From swartell at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 13:16:43 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:16:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jo's other poll questions
In-Reply-To: <20050715131219.44699.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050715131644.26672.qmail@web53202.mail.yahoo.com>

The other two are/were:

Is that the pensieve on the cover of the US book?

Will Harry continue to learn Occlumancy in HBP?


Can't imagine why she thought anyone would vote for
those since the answers will be available in just a
few hours.


Sue

--- Vinnia <vinnia_chrysshallie at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>  
> Desperately need help here. Anyone knows the other
> two questions on Jo's latest poll?
>  
> Thanks for the help
>  
>  
> Vinnia
> 
> Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://au.messenger.yahoo.com 
> 
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> removed]
> 
> 


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From kennymod at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 14:42:17 2005
From: kennymod at yahoo.com (kennymod)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:42:17 -0000
Subject: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <20050715075810.GG19986@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <db8i09+s0gm@eGroups.com>

My wife and I are getting an extra copy so we don't have to share.  
I thought it may be over the top, but then I saw this in the morning 
paper, www.chicagotribune.com


POTTER' BOOK ETIQUETTE
We're adults. You can't make us share.
By Erica Noonan
The Boston Globe
Published July 15, 2005

Share the new "Harry Potter"? No thanks. We're married.

There are plenty of things spouses should share: the last beer, a 
bed, a good laugh. In a pinch, maybe a toothbrush or the TiVo remote.

But not "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." On Saturday, we 
will pay an extra $20 for a second copy that we won't need in a few 
weeks. But in the long run, it's a small price to pay for sanity, 
and pleasure.

For starters, we both really, really want to read the book. Now. Not 
when the other has finally finished it.

And a 672-page book hurled by whoever doesn't win the coin toss 
might do some damage to the living room. (Just kidding, neither of 
us would relinquish the only copy long enough to throw it.)

Anyway, buying two copies of a children's book is a privilege of 
adulthood. You don't have to be a weirdo-in-a-wizarding costume to 
regard a new Harry Potter book as a quasi-significant pop culture 
event for grown-ups.

It's J.K. Rowling's sixth installment, not so shiny and new anymore, 
but still fun enough to qualify the book's release day as a minor 
entertainment holiday of sorts, ranking somewhere above the season 
finale of "Desperate Housewives" but below a "Lord of the Rings" 
movie.

I can understand why Harry Potter-crazed children should be forced 
to share one copy of "Half-Blood Prince" to learn a Very Important 
Life Lesson about sharing. (For extra parental credit, bore them in 
the checkout line with a lecture on rampant consumerism and instant 
gratification.)

But when you pay your own credit card bills, it's a whole different 
story. With two copies of "Half-Blood Prince" in the house, it's a 
guaranteed great day. Me sprawled on one couch, him on the other. 
Not answering the phone or checking the Internet. Ordering in 
Chinese food for lunch and hoping the baby takes a long afternoon 
nap.

Every hour or so, we'll take a break (yes, I'd love another Diet 
Coke if you're getting up) and analyze the story as it unfolds.

On the other hand, trying to share one copy of the book is an 
invitation to serious domestic unrest. The day would go something 
like this: One of us tries to read while the other loiters around, 
periodically begging for a paragraph or two to be read aloud.

When the reader tries to take a quick bathroom or snack break, the 
non-custodial spouse grabs the book and darts into a locked room. 
The rightful reader is forced to disassemble the door, wrestle the 
book back, and reclaim his or her space on the couch.

The "Potter"-less spouse continues to pester and whine and is 
finally ordered to take a walk, watch a movie, or, for Pete's sake, 
just go somewhere, anywhere else and leave the other alone. Yelling 
and sulking ensue. Someone call a marriage counselor.

That's why no sharing.

I try to explain to people who still don't get it that we wouldn't 
share a seat at a film. (I watch the first half of "Revenge of the 
Sith," he watches the second hour?) Likewise, we see "Harry Potter 
and the Half-Blood Prince" as that sort of experience, something 
worth sharing with the one you love, but best enjoyed separately and 
simultaneously for everyone's safety.

Of course, married people often hold hands at the theater. But I 
don't think we'll be doing a lot of that on Saturday. Too hard to 
turn the pages.









From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 15:42:56 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <db8i09+s0gm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050715154256.24071.qmail@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

kennymod  wrote:
 
My wife and I are getting an extra copy so we don't have to share.  
I thought it may be over the top, but then I saw this in the morning paper, www.chicagotribune.com

 

Lynn:

We're getting 2 copies as well.  I'm picking my up at 12:01 and then tomorrow when we go over to the base we'll pick up an American copy.  If they are sold out, then somewhere for a second copy.  My husband reads slow so we really can't read together.  And, I can't wait for him to read it after me as I won't have it available for discussion.  We figure the cost is worth the marital harmony.  LOL



		
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From shalimar07 at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 16:49:05 2005
From: shalimar07 at aol.com (mumweasley7)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:49:05 -0000
Subject: *HBP Deluxe Book Cover - Spoiler Alert
In-Reply-To: <db6pes+50ej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db8pe1+rjv2@eGroups.com>

This is the book I have ordered.  My understanding is that the extra 
pages are probably illustrations before each chapter. If that is 
true than there will be 34 chapters.  As for the back cover I found 
the following from a Celtic website that reminded me of the picture 
on the cover and bear in mind this was written in 39 AD.
I found this hauntingly remarkable. As Cunliffe quotes Lucan (Roman 
poet, A.D. 39-65) in his poem Pharsalia:

A grove there was untouched by men's hands from ancient times, whose 
interlacing boughs enclosed a space of darkness and cold shade, and 
banished the sunlight from above . . .
On those boughs . . . birds feared to perch; in those coverts wild 
beasts would not lie down; no wind ever bore down upon that wood, 
nor thunderbolt hurled from black clouds; the trees, even when they 
spread their leaves to no breeze, rustled of themselves.
Water, also, fell there in abundance from dark springs. The images 
of the gods grim and rude were uncouth blocks formed of felled tree-
trunks. Their mere antiquity and the ghastly hue of the rotten 
timber struck terror. . . .
Legend also told that often the subterranean hollows quaked and 
bellowed, that yew trees fell down and rose again, that the glare of 
conflagrations came from trees that were not on fire, and that 
serpents twined and glided round their stems.
The people never resorted thither to worship at close quarters but 
left the place to the gods. For, when the sun is in mid-heaven or 
dark night fills the sky, the priest himself dreads their approach 
and fears to surprise the lord of the grove.
Shivery! Two thousand years old, and it's lost none of its power to 
conjure up the mystery of an ancient Celtic sacred grove.

Happy Reading, Shalimar






From Mhochberg at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 18:54:18 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:54:18 EDT
Subject: Half Blood Prince Procrastinators
Message-ID: <1a3.37b3b4a3.3009605a@aol.com>

My favorite online comic strip had this today;
 
_http://www.overduemedia.com/archive.aspx?strip=20050715_ 
(http://www.overduemedia.com/archive.aspx?strip=20050715) 
 
Have fun tonight!
 
---Mary
 


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From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 19:04:38 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:04:38 -0000
Subject: It's coming ...
Message-ID: <db91c6+932f@eGroups.com>

I got this e-mail today:-
We thought you would like to know that the following item has been sent 
to:
    Sarah Leigh Kelly
using Royal Mail.

Your order  (received 02 January 2005, 16:40 GMT)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
Ordered  Title                          Price  Dispatched  Subtotal  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
1        Harry Potter and the Half-Bloo 8.99 GBP   1       8.99 GBP 
         Sold by Amazon.com Int'l Sales, Inc. 

Woo Hoo - it's on its way.  It's like Christmas and I'm sooooo excited!
Sarah xx
PS - can't believe I ordered it so long ago!





From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 19:03:41 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (bamajenny12)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:03:41 -0500
Subject: Amazon and UPS
References: <1a3.37b3b4a3.3009605a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c58970$43ad4ae0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

Well, I just tracked my order through Amazon, and my book
is here is Panama City. According to the tracking record, it
got here at 4:33 this morning. Hey, do you think UPS would
just let me go pick it up now? <sneaky laugh>
Jenny

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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 19:17:52 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:17:52 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <004301c58970$43ad4ae0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>
References: <1a3.37b3b4a3.3009605a@aol.com>
	 <004301c58970$43ad4ae0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005071512176bbcb630@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/15/05, bamajenny12 <BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> got here at 4:33 this morning. Hey, do you think UPS would
> just let me go pick it up now? <sneaky laugh>

Ha! {g}  I asked the USPS gal, who dropped off the mail at work today,
about the Harry Potter books and she said they were instructed over a
month ago not to release the book before July 16 and they also have
'reminder' meetings not to deliver any early books.  The Gulf-to-Bay
branch of USPS at Clearwater apparently has *stacks* of mailed HP
books under lock.

Dina



From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 19:17:57 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:17:57 -0000
Subject: It's coming ...
In-Reply-To: <db91c6+932f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <db9255+57h3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> I got this e-mail today:-

Yes, I have ordered two aswell, an adult and a child version.  they 
were ordered seperately, so may not arrive together, but I've 
definitely got first dibs - hubby is prepared for me not to converse 
until I am finished (or have a numb bum from sitting too long and want 
to swap seats with him - he'll be watching the Open).

I am going now - will see you all in a few days when we can digest and 
discuss to our spoilers hearts content.

See you soon, happy reading.
Sarah xx





From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 19:24:20 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (bamajenny12)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:24:20 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amazon and UPS
References: <1a3.37b3b4a3.3009605a@aol.com> <004301c58970$43ad4ae0$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <1a27384005071512176bbcb630@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c58972$e79f9700$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dina Lerret 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amazon and UPS


  On 7/15/05, bamajenny12 <BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com> wrote:

  > got here at 4:33 this morning. Hey, do you think UPS would
  > just let me go pick it up now? <sneaky laugh>

  Ha! {g}    The Gulf-to-Bay
  branch of USPS at Clearwater apparently has *stacks* of mailed HP
  books under lock.

  Dina


  Jenny:
  Party poopers. I wouldn't tell.....I'd be too busy reading!! LOL

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From gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx  Fri Jul 15 19:36:13 2005
From: gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx (Gabriela)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:36:13 -0000
Subject: So how will you be reading?
In-Reply-To: <20050715154256.24071.qmail@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <db937d+im27@eGroups.com>

> 
> Lynn:
> 
> We're getting 2 copies as well.  I'm picking my up at 12:01 and 
then tomorrow when we go over to the base we'll pick up an American 
copy.  If they are sold out, then somewhere for a second copy.  My 
husband reads slow so we really can't read together.  And, I can't 
wait for him to read it after me as I won't have it available for 
discussion.  We figure the cost is worth the marital harmony.  LOL
> 

Hi, regular lurker here. I'm so excited because this will be my 
first potter party ever, I'm in the US right now on vacation and 
having the time of my life (day before yesterday we went to 
Disneyland, it's amazing). I arrived Monday and asked arround, I 
couldn't pre order from the local Borders, but there's a Barnes and 
Noble 7 miles from my aunt's and I'm ready to go pick up my 
wristband at 6 and later return for the party at 9 with my 8 year 
old daughter> I don't know how I'll be able to read the book since 
Saturday a lot of the family is coming to see us (my sister, my 
nieces, my daughter and I)and my grandma, who will be arriving 
Saturday at noon. I'm sure I can make up some excuse. 

Have a wonderful and magical evening and a great reading everyone!

Love, 
Gabriela





From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 19:54:49 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:54:49 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It's coming ...
In-Reply-To: <db91c6+932f@eGroups.com>
References: <db91c6+932f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050715125454ce16c1@mail.gmail.com>

Sarah, 

your ordering date is like nothing, I pre-ordered before you did ;-) 

I got the mail from Amazon saying pre-ordering started from that day
and off I went to check the page :-D I think it was some time in
mid-December...

Kathrin

On 7/15/05, Sarah <plungy116 at aol.com> wrote:
> I got this e-mail today:-
> We thought you would like to know that the following item has been sent 
> to:
>     Sarah Leigh Kelly
> using Royal Mail.
> 
> Your order  (received 02 January 2005, 16:40 GMT)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Ordered  Title                          Price  Dispatched  Subtotal  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> 1        Harry Potter and the Half-Bloo 8.99 GBP   1       8.99 GBP 
>          Sold by Amazon.com Int'l Sales, Inc. 
> 
> Woo Hoo - it's on its way.  It's like Christmas and I'm sooooo excited!
> Sarah xx
> PS - can't believe I ordered it so long ago!


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 21:55:53 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:55:53 -0000
Subject: Almost Time!!!
Message-ID: <db9bd9+hgd9@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone, it's almost 11 pm on England, the list will be closing 
soon, I bet everyone's excited, just over an hour till you get your 
copy of HBP, I envy you. I hope all your desires for our wizards come 
true, and that no-one bothers you while you're reading. And Happy 
happy reading.

Juli - Who hopes her copy from Amazon arrives before noon





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 03:02:09 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:02:09 -0400
Subject: B&N was a ZOO!
Message-ID: <1a2738400507152002ed63cf7@mail.gmail.com>

Dude, I went to the Barnes&Noble in Clearwater and they had WB
reporters, police, lines/crowds going all along both sides of the
building.  If you needed to use the bathroom, then you needed to find
another open store elsewhere.  Though, the cool side was seeing
everyone dressed up. :-)  Good for a [quick] visit.  I'm watching the
WB news now, and evidently, Busch Gardens brought in snakes, including
a boa, owls, and other critters.

Can I say I'm glad I preordered from Borders?  I could actually walk
into the building without a looong waiting line.  Actually, there
wasn't a line, even to sign-in and folks were casually drinking at the
cafe and some kids running around here and there.  The place was full
but not a swarming mass.

Dina



From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 16 04:39:57 2005
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (Kirstini)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 04:39:57 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
Message-ID: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>

Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. What's 
wrong with you people? ;p

Kirstini





From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 04:56:22 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (Bamajenny)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:56:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.
References: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <04a701c589c2$d036cc00$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>

Kirstini....
Where in the world ARE you?! I don't even have the book yet.
In fact, there are still 5 minutes until the book can even be
sold here in Panama City, Florida.
Jenny
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kirstini 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:39 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.


  Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
  I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. What's 
  wrong with you people? ;p

  Kirstini




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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Jul 16 05:00:50 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:00:50 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D92122.4999.128E3D8@localhost>

On 16 Jul 2005 at 4:39, Kirstini wrote:

> Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
> I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. What's
> wrong with you people? ;p

Finished it about an hour ago - now going through it again, making 
lots of notes.

I managed to get my copy at 9.03 (it went on sale here at 9.01 so 
that's not at all bad).

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From IAmLordCassandra at aol.com  Sat Jul 16 05:02:42 2005
From: IAmLordCassandra at aol.com (IAmLordCassandra at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:02:42 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.
Message-ID: <1f7.dcbc691.3009eef2@aol.com>

Gah!  I don't get mine for another 7 hours 0.0.  


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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 16 05:02:46 2005
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (Kirstini)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:02:46 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <04a701c589c2$d036cc00$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>
Message-ID: <dba4dm+66ob@eGroups.com>

I'm in the UK. I bought the book about five and a half hours ago 
(just after midnight) and started reading in the taxi queue home. 
Oh, go and buy it, and good luck!


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Bamajenny" 
<BamaJenny12 at y...> wrote:
> Kirstini....
> Where in the world ARE you?! I don't even have the book yet.
> In fact, there are still 5 minutes until the book can even be
> sold here in Panama City, Florida.
> Jenny
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Kirstini 
>   To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:39 PM
>   Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.
> 
> 
>   Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
>   I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. 
What's 
>   wrong with you people? ;p
> 
>   Kirstini
> 
> 
> 
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From elrond at paradise.net.nz  Sat Jul 16 05:08:10 2005
From: elrond at paradise.net.nz (Michael Chance)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:08:10 +1200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished.
References: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com> <04a701c589c2$d036cc00$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>
Message-ID: <004f01c589c4$5d249100$eacefea9@les>

They came on sale in New Zealand almost 6 hours ago now! I've not finished
reading, though I have read the ending and have read parts of the last few
chapters... (I couldn't help myself :) )

Michael
From: "Bamajenny" <BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com>


> Kirstini....
> Where in the world ARE you?! I don't even have the book yet.
> In fact, there are still 5 minutes until the book can even be
> sold here in Panama City, Florida.
> Jenny





From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 16 05:04:23 2005
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (Kirstini)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:04:23 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <42D92122.4999.128E3D8@localhost>
Message-ID: <dba4gn+nu79@eGroups.com>

I can't get into chat for some reason. Are you in a mood for 
discussion, at all, or do you need to digest more?
Nice to see you still about, by the way. I haven't ben around these 
parts for well over a year, so you probably don't remember me.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2005 at 4:39, Kirstini wrote:
> 
> > Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
> > I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. 
What's
> > wrong with you people? ;p
> 
> Finished it about an hour ago - now going through it again, making 
> lots of notes.
> 
> I managed to get my copy at 9.03 (it went on sale here at 9.01 so 
> that's not at all bad).
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 16 05:08:14 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:08:14 -0400
Subject: A Quiet Potter Night
Message-ID: <0IJP00BY4FLKDDP1@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Well, didn't get to a midnight party because of some RL stuff, so Art and I
sat and counted down while watching SS on DVD, eating Berty Botts and Jelly
Slugs, and wishing we were on the Hogwarts Express.  When Midnight came, we
let out a cheer for Harry.

Soon, I will get my Amazon Audiobook and then...ah!

Happy Potter-Day!

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 05:19:34 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:19:34 -0700
Subject: Reading? Want to talk about it?
Message-ID: <1121491177.23AF614C@bf11.dngr.org>

If you find yourself bubbling over with theories - even if you're only 
on, say, chapter seven, check out FictionAlley's Book Six and Chapter by 
Chapter forums at 
http://www.fictionalley.org//fictionalleypark/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=214

They'll help you fill the gap until the main list reopens.

We also have a writing challenge and our art forums for HBP and each 
chapter are also already open.

Heidi for FictionAlley



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Jul 16 06:24:20 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:24:20 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dba4gn+nu79@eGroups.com>
References: <42D92122.4999.128E3D8@localhost>
Message-ID: <42D934B4.4274.17557BE@localhost>

On 16 Jul 2005 at 5:04, Kirstini wrote:

> I can't get into chat for some reason. Are you in a mood for 
> discussion, at all, or do you need to digest more?
> Nice to see you still about, by the way. I haven't ben around these
> parts for well over a year, so you probably don't remember me.

I do remember your name - I am up for chatting, but so far haven't 
been able to get into any room - on ICQ I am 6898200, on 
Yahoo!Messenger I am drednort.geo, on AIM, I am drednort. Anyone 
wants to chat - message me.

I am trying to get into the mainlist room, but I have very irregular 
luck with yahoo chatrooms via the webpage.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From theadimail at yahoo.co.in  Sat Jul 16 07:19:57 2005
From: theadimail at yahoo.co.in (theadimail)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:19:57 -0000
Subject: A literary equivalent of 9/11
Message-ID: <dbacet+c9ed@eGroups.com>

hi,
 I have finished the book and I hated it and then I can't say I loved 
it but it shook me completely. Suffice it to say, it was a negation of 
everything we expect from Harry Potter till now. It's an earthquake. 
and pardon me fro the reference, it's like a literary 9/11  an event 
which you might have fantasised about butonce when it happens leaves 
you dazed and speechless. I don't mean just the  death, everything 
else, too; the style, the dialogue, the conversations and the people 
and most of all the people yes, nothing is going to be the same ever.
Bye
Adi





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 16 07:23:15 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:23:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c58972$e79f9700$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com>
Message-ID: <0IJP000HBLULHOU3@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I haven't even got mine shipped! I went to Amazon and it says my delivery
date is scheduled for July 21...Baah!

Later,
Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sat Jul 16 08:45:10 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:45:10 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A literary equivalent of 9/11
In-Reply-To: <dbacet+c9ed@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPCEABCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Adi said:
 I have finished the book and I hated it and then I can't say I loved
it but it shook me completely.

then storm
Adi I can't agree at all. The books was shocking but entirely in line with
the other books, I think it's great, classic JKR. But everything is
different now. It's a book that feels much more tied to our world than the
previous books have.

And now those shippers have been sorted out

storm



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From elsyee_h at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 10:28:17 2005
From: elsyee_h at yahoo.com (Tammy)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:28:17 -0000
Subject: Someone come talk to me!
Message-ID: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com>

I finished the book.
I desperately need someone to moan to!
Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
has finished the book :P )

-Tammy







From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sat Jul 16 10:43:37 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:43:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42D97179.20789.262B61A@localhost>

On 16 Jul 2005 at 10:28, Tammy wrote:

> I finished the book.
> I desperately need someone to moan to!
> Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> has finished the book :P )

Which chat?

There seem to be several in use.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 10:54:49 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:54:49 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com>
References: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050716035423ac9309@mail.gmail.com>

Tammy, 

you already finished it? Wow! I'm so jealous! 

So far we got our mail delivered, but I still don't have my copy. I
hoped it would be the amazon package I got,but no, it was just the dvd
box I ordered yesterday (it was supposed to arrive next Monday through
Wednesday).

Should they not deliver my book today I will be really mad! I'm
German, this is not my mothertongue, I need one to three days longer
than you *gr*

Kathrin

On 7/16/05, Tammy <elsyee_h at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I finished the book.
> I desperately need someone to moan to!
> Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> has finished the book :P )
> 
> -Tammy


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 12:02:38 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <42D97179.20789.262B61A@localhost>
Message-ID: <20050716120238.11033.qmail@web61015.mail.yahoo.com>



Shaun Hately <drednort at alphalink.com.au> wrote:
On 16 Jul 2005 at 10:28, Tammy wrote:

> I finished the book.
> I desperately need someone to moan to!
> Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> has finished the book :P )

Which chat?

There seem to be several in use.

Now Me:

        I'll be squeeing rather than moaning, but I'm ready to chat too! Where does everyone want to meet that can be declared spoilable?

Sam


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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 12:23:37 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:23:37 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac80050716035423ac9309@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com>
	 <4e2ac80050716035423ac9309@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005071605239b2f9c8@mail.gmail.com>

Now I'm replying to my own post - that's weird! 

I just got a phone call from Amazon (customer care?) asking whether I
had already recieved my book and when I said no they asked me to be
patient till 6 p.m., cause DHL is going to deliver till then.

I only hope they deliver my book today! Seeing you all talk about it
is driving me crazy! I want to read it now, I already feel sick like
hell :-(

Kathrin

On 7/16/05, Kathrin P <kathrin.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tammy,
> 
> you already finished it? Wow! I'm so jealous!
> 
> So far we got our mail delivered, but I still don't have my copy. I
> hoped it would be the amazon package I got,but no, it was just the dvd
> box I ordered yesterday (it was supposed to arrive next Monday through
> Wednesday).
> 
> Should they not deliver my book today I will be really mad! I'm
> German, this is not my mothertongue, I need one to three days longer
> than you *gr*
> 
> Kathrin
> 
> On 7/16/05, Tammy <elsyee_h at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I finished the book.
> > I desperately need someone to moan to!
> > Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> > has finished the book :P )
> >
> > -Tammy
> 
> 
> --
> Kathrin
> ~~~~~
> check out:
> http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
> http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
> http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me
> 


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From ewe2 at 4dot0.net  Sat Jul 16 12:30:37 2005
From: ewe2 at 4dot0.net (ewe2)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:30:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <42D97179.20789.262B61A@localhost>
References: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com> <42D97179.20789.262B61A@localhost>
Message-ID: <20050716123037.GH19986@4dot0.net>

On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 08:43:37PM +1000, Shaun Hately wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2005 at 10:28, Tammy wrote:
> 
> > I finished the book.
> > I desperately need someone to moan to!
> > Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> > has finished the book :P )
> 
> Which chat?
> 
> There seem to be several in use.

on yahoo?

-- 
sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall -kill me.




From theadimail at yahoo.co.in  Sat Jul 16 12:31:23 2005
From: theadimail at yahoo.co.in (theadimail)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:31:23 -0000
Subject: A literary equivalent of 9/11
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPCEABCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <dbaumr+a5f1@eGroups.com>

Well, for one thing it doesan't read like a book written by JKR at 
all. I didn't recognise a single character. Midway through when Dobby 
appears i literally cried because he is the only one recognisable 
character. The least that can be said of Ron hermione and Ginny the 
better. And since when did hermione become so much interested in love 
affairs even when harry is clearly in danger?
    My biggest complaint is not events of the books atall. its people. 
none of them is likeable. and harry. he is brave n all but do u even 
recognise him? I guess they have to beomce adults but like this?
Bye
adi





From theadimail at yahoo.co.in  Sat Jul 16 12:34:55 2005
From: theadimail at yahoo.co.in (theadimail)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:34:55 -0000
Subject: hi
Message-ID: <dbautf+tbmj@eGroups.com>

hi,
 ive read the book and i neesd to caht with somebody too. i dont have 
messenger though. can someone tell me how to chat? and yes can someone 
tell me how to find reviews? i cant belive they arent coming yet 
except a few.
bye
adi





From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 12:45:23 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:45:23 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac8005071605239b2f9c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com> <4e2ac8005071605239b2f9c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1121517926.2D5C6FCD@dl11.dngr.org>


On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 5:42 am, Kathrin P wrote:
>
> I only hope they deliver my book today! Seeing you all talk about it
> is driving me crazy! I want to read it now, I already feel sick like
> hell :-(
>
I'm in the same boat. And I'm in California, which is 8 hours earlier 
than the UK and 9 for Europe iirc, so it's only 545 am right now and I 
just can't keep waiting.

Heidi



From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 13:23:41 2005
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:23:41 -0000
Subject: Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <20050716123037.GH19986@4dot0.net>
Message-ID: <dbb1ot+tth2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 08:43:37PM +1000, Shaun Hately wrote:
> > On 16 Jul 2005 at 10:28, Tammy wrote:
> > 
> > > I finished the book.
> > > I desperately need someone to moan to!
> > > Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably someone who
> > > has finished the book :P )
> > 
> > Which chat?
> > 
> > There seem to be several in use.
> 
> on yahoo?
> 
> -- 
> sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall
-kill me.

Valky:
Is anyone still here? I am a little bit slower reader I imagine but I
am done, done, done and winded, overwrought, blown away by Half Blood
Prince. I'll chat all night most likely but noone seems to be logged
in here. Before I whisk off to the fictionalley pages is anyone here?

echo
echo







From elsyee_h at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 14:28:33 2005
From: elsyee_h at yahoo.com (Tammy)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0000
Subject: Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <dbb1ot+tth2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbb5ih+gghq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford"
<valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, ewe2 <ewe2 at 4...> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 08:43:37PM +1000, Shaun Hately wrote:
> > > On 16 Jul 2005 at 10:28, Tammy wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I finished the book.
> > > > I desperately need someone to moan to!
> > > > Please please come into the chat... someone? (preferably
someone who
> > > > has finished the book :P )
> > > 
> > > Which chat?
> > > 
> > > There seem to be several in use.
> > 
> > on yahoo?
> > 
> > -- 
> > sed awk grep cat dd ..Im a luser baby ,so why don't you killall
> -kill me.
> 
> Valky:
> Is anyone still here? I am a little bit slower reader I imagine but I
> am done, done, done and winded, overwrought, blown away by Half Blood
> Prince. I'll chat all night most likely but noone seems to be logged
> in here. Before I whisk off to the fictionalley pages is anyone here?
> 
> echo
> echo

At this moment, there are people in the HPfGU main chat, and there are
people in the OTChatter (though more are in HPfGU). I'm in both (the
benefit of having 2 yahoo names) and will probably will be for another
hour (have to go to choir practice) and then again for the better part
of the afternoon and evening. I have Yahoo Messenger, AIM
(curliodotcom), MSN (curlio_com), and ICQ (1710234) 'cause I believe
in being well-rounded.

-Tammy, who still hasn't moaned to anyone yet





From HMaffioli at cox.net  Sat Jul 16 16:01:19 2005
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:01:19 -0700
Subject: Buffy Creator HP Fan
Message-ID: <00c601c58a1f$9adfbaa0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

I am in San Diego at Comic Con (www.comic-con.org) and ran in to Joss Wheedon, creator of Buffy ,Angel, and Serenity, at Borders Books last night. 

Heather

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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 16:36:41 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:36:41 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Someone come talk to me!
In-Reply-To: <1121517926.2D5C6FCD@dl11.dngr.org>
References: <dbang1+euej@eGroups.com> <4e2ac8005071605239b2f9c8@mail.gmail.com>
	 <1121517926.2D5C6FCD@dl11.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005071609366fc3972d@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I just got a mail telling me their sorry (excuse me?!? being
sorry is far from what I expect them to be, I want them on their knees
in front of me begging for their lives! *eg*) I won't receive my copy
till early next week. But to show how sorry they are they will give me
the book without me having to pay.

Yeah, great, what if I wanted to pay to get the book IN TIME?!? This
just sucks!!!

Sorry for ranting, but I just had to get it off... This just pisses me
really off :-( *gr*

Kathrin

On 7/16/05, Heidi Tandy <heidi8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 5:42 am, Kathrin P wrote:
> >
> > I only hope they deliver my book today! Seeing you all talk about it
> > is driving me crazy! I want to read it now, I already feel sick like
> > hell :-(
> >
> I'm in the same boat. And I'm in California, which is 8 hours earlier 
> than the UK and 9 for Europe iirc, so it's only 545 am right now and I 
> just can't keep waiting.
> 
> Heidi
> 
> 
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~~~~~
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http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 16:58:55 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:58:55 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbbecf+rm0b@eGroups.com>

I'm also finished, I read until 5 am, and it was so worth it.

Juli

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...> 
wrote:
> Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
> I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. 
What's 
> wrong with you people? ;p
> 
> Kirstini





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 17:06:52 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:06:52 -0000
Subject: When can we chat?
Message-ID: <dbberc+idm2@eGroups.com>

Anyone, I NEED to talk to someone about the book. I read all night and 
slept through the morning, I've had dreams about everyhting and I want 
to see who agrees with about anything, or disagree I don't care.

AIM: jlnbtr
Yahoo: jlnbtr
MSN: julibotero at msn.com





From lorelei3dg at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 18:01:42 2005
From: lorelei3dg at yahoo.com (lorelei3dg)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:01:42 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbbi26+hbjs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...> 
wrote:
> Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
> I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. 
What's 
> wrong with you people? ;p
> 
> Kirstini


I'm done here in NY. My initial plan was to devour it as quickly as 
possible, then go right back to the beginning and savor it the second 
time. Now that I've finished, though, I find I need to wait and gain 
a little distance - let everything sink in - before jumping back in.

Curiously, I was actually a little afraid to start reading! I 
dithered around for an hour before I could actually settle down, and 
then kept finding excuses to do something else for a while. I'm not 
sure if I'd been afraid of the possible plot turns, or of finishing 
and having to wait years for book seven. Did anyone else feel this 
way?

Lorel






From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 18:53:23 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:53:23 -0000
Subject: Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <0IJP000HBLULHOU3@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dbbl33+nh22@eGroups.com>

I tracked mine, and it arrived at my local UPS station, less than a
mile from my house, very early yesterday morning.  I checked back
again a bit ago, and it said, "In transit", which I took to mean that
it's on the delivery truck.

But it's nearly 3pm and I'm still sitting here waiting my face off...


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> I haven't even got mine shipped! I went to Amazon and it says my
delivery
> date is scheduled for July 21...Baah!
> 
> Later,
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 18:59:20 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:59:20 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dbbi26+hbjs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbble8+j2ea@eGroups.com>


> I'm done here in NY. My initial plan was to devour it as quickly 
as 
> possible, then go right back to the beginning and savor it the 
second 
> time. Now that I've finished, though, I find I need to wait and 
gain 
> a little distance - let everything sink in - before jumping back 
in.
> 
> Curiously, I was actually a little afraid to start reading! I 
> dithered around for an hour before I could actually settle down, 
and 
> then kept finding excuses to do something else for a while. I'm 
not 
> sure if I'd been afraid of the possible plot turns, or of 
finishing 
> and having to wait years for book seven. Did anyone else feel this 
> way?
> 
> Lorel

I know how you feel. I was a bit afraid to start reading, I didn't 
want to know what was going to happen, but I HAD to, you know? I 
read the entire book in about 7 hours. I couldn't even wait for my 
copy from Amazon, I went to the bookstore last night and got another 
copy, I'm glad I did cause Amazon hasn't arrived yet. I really liked 
the book though. It's high on my list of favorites.

Juli





From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sat Jul 16 19:00:16 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:00:16 -0400
Subject: Delivery screw ups
References: <dbbl33+nh22@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000701c58a38$9ae70440$3e4bac43@cauldron1>

Yea.. IF this backfires, the next book may not get as many "mail order"
versions.

As it is, I went to a Book party and they still screwed things up. They gave
me the Cassetts, instead of the CD's and I didn't get a chance to go back,
so I had to go first thing this morning  (20 miles) after being up all night
reading the book.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "slytherin_dragoon1" <lord1912 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Amazon and UPS


> I tracked mine, and it arrived at my local UPS station, less than a
> mile from my house, very early yesterday morning.  I checked back
> again a bit ago, and it said, "In transit", which I took to mean that
> it's on the delivery truck.
>
> But it's nearly 3pm and I'm still sitting here waiting my face off...
>
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the
> Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> > I haven't even got mine shipped! I went to Amazon and it says my
> delivery
> > date is scheduled for July 21...Baah!
> >
> > Later,
> > Lee :-)
> >
> > Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> > I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> > Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at a... (or)
> > I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at o...
> > Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>
>
>
>
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From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sat Jul 16 19:01:43 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:01:43 -0400
Subject: Fw: [HP4GU-GreatLakes] Photos from the book party link - no spoilers
Message-ID: <000d01c58a38$ce6786a0$3e4bac43@cauldron1>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bumbledore" <bumbledore at comcast.net>
To: <HP4GU-GreatLakes at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:40 PM
Subject: [HP4GU-GreatLakes] Photos link


> There 6 pic's that came out ok..
> This is from the HP:HBP part at Shulers Books and Music on 28th Streeet in
Grand Rapids, Michigan.  heres the link. Enjoy
>
>
> http://photobucket.com/albums/y256/bumbledor/




From plungy116 at aol.com  Sat Jul 16 19:26:22 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:26:22 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dbble8+j2ea@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbbn0u+ob8l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at y...> wrote:

> > Curiously, I was actually a little afraid to start reading! I 
> > dithered around for an hour before I could actually settle down, 
> and 
> > then kept finding excuses to do something else for a while. > > 
Lorel
> 
> I know how you feel. I was a bit afraid to start reading, I didn't 
> want to know what was going to happen, but I HAD to, you know? I 
> read the entire book in about 7 hours. 
> 
> Juli

NOW ME
It arrived at about 9.45 -the Royal mail guy said 'Harry Potter?' and 
grinned at me.  With lunch and tea breaks, hanging out the washing and 
washing up last night's curry remains I have just finished now at about 
8pm.  Gobsmacked.  
Sarah xx





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 19:58:06 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:58:06 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dbbn0u+ob8l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbbose+huec@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
>Snip< 
> NOW ME
> It arrived at about 9.45 -the Royal mail guy said 'Harry Potter?' 
and grinned at me.  With lunch and tea breaks, hanging out the washing 
and washing up last night's curry remains I have just finished now at 
about 8pm.  Gobsmacked.  
> Sarah xx

*****\(@@)/*****

That about sums it up for me too! Wow. Sweet Hubby went to one of the 
grocery stores at midnight and got me a copy without waiting. He did 
the same thing with OoP and there were maybe 4 people on hand at that 
time because the word wasn't out. This time he said there were about 
100 people waiting. And yes, he did get me one of the boxes the books 
came in! *BIG GRIN* When I woke up in the morning the book was there 
and I read from about 8am until just about 3:30pm. The copy I ordered 
from Amazon arrived with the mail about 3pm.... I took one up to Hubby 
and he is now reading it.

I have to say this one took my breath away. Some things that I had 
suspected were true, others I really had no clue. Jo, you are some 
writer! I don't know if this would be considered a spoiler or not but 
she does mention knitting several times - YEAH!!!!! (maybe she did 
read my fan letter I sent for the Letterbox Project!)

Still blown away

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****







From saifightsms at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 12:27:26 2005
From: saifightsms at yahoo.com (BookJunky)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 1969
In-Reply-To: <1121516646.227.93347.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050716122726.45635.qmail@web81910.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just getting ready to read chapter 12 here. I read slower now than I did in my younger days.


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From lyonsden at value.net  Sat Jul 16 12:45:43 2005
From: lyonsden at value.net (noylj)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:45:43 -0000
Subject: Chat
Message-ID: <dbavhn+lska@eGroups.com>

How do you "chat"? I go there and all I get is a blank box with a coffee cup in it (Java?).







From servinashadows at aol.com  Sat Jul 16 18:36:48 2005
From: servinashadows at aol.com (servinashadows at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:36:48 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Digest Number 1969
Message-ID: <105.65069f9d.300aadc0@aol.com>

Hated it would be a mild understatement!  I was sitting on the couch  
reading, hubby was having lunch next to and when I got to that part, I dropped  the 
book to my lap, screamed, "SHE CAN'T DO THAT!" and made poor hubby drop his  
grilled cheese sandwich.  
 
As to a chat, when and where?  So, I can whine, cry and throw my own  little 
temper tantrum?
 
Lynda


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From jen_kat_du at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 20:00:17 2005
From: jen_kat_du at yahoo.com (jen_kat_du)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:00:17 -0000
Subject: Anyone want to Chat?
Message-ID: <dbbp0h+o6m6@eGroups.com>

I just finished HBP and I am dying to chat!  I will be in HPFGU Chat 
room starting at 4 PM EST!  Please join me!


Jen







From hermionesmum at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 21:00:32 2005
From: hermionesmum at yahoo.com (Sam Edwards)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:00:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dbbose+huec@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050716210032.2653.qmail@web61018.mail.yahoo.com>




I have to say this one took my breath away. Some things that I had 
suspected were true, others I really had no clue. Jo, you are some 
writer! I don't know if this would be considered a spoiler or not but 
she does mention knitting several times - YEAH!!!!! (maybe she did 
read my fan letter I sent for the Letterbox Project!)

Still blown away

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****

lol, me too. I was crying and skipping around the room in glee when I finished. I wonder how JKR would react if I really did rush up and hug her and start babbling incoherently about her masterpiece?

Sam






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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 21:17:14 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:17:14 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <dbbl33+nh22@eGroups.com>
References: <0IJP000HBLULHOU3@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <dbbl33+nh22@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050716141775dfed1e@mail.gmail.com>

slytherin_dragoon1, I really hope you got your copy! Though, if you
did, I'd envy you just like I envy everyone who got their copyin
time... Oh how I hate Amazon and the German Post at the moment...
Kathrin

On 7/16/05, slytherin_dragoon1 <lord1912 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I tracked mine, and it arrived at my local UPS station, less than a
> mile from my house, very early yesterday morning.  I checked back
> again a bit ago, and it said, "In transit", which I took to mean that
> it's on the delivery truck.
> 
> But it's nearly 3pm and I'm still sitting here waiting my face off...


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
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http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
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http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jul 16 21:33:53 2005
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:33:53 -0000
Subject: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dba32t+6pk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbbug1+k2rd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kirstini" <kirst_inn at y...> 
wrote:
> Anyone....? Anyone....? I can't go to bed YET.
> I think I was the first to post here about finishing OOP, too. What's 
> wrong with you people? ;p
> 

I just finished a half hour ago. HBP was one hell of a book (after two 
years of speculation, did anyone ever guess that the opening scene 
would involve the British PM?), but very emotionally draining. Boy, I 
am way too depressed to be doing any filking for a while.

Excuse me, I have to go hang crepe over my front door and have all of 
my business cards edged in black.

   - CMC 





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 16 22:25:48 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:25:48 -0000
Subject: Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac80050716141775dfed1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dbc1hc+b6cs@eGroups.com>

I hope you get your copy soon too! Amazon said they would be 
delivering until 7pm (that was the email I got) Last time it came 
via a special van that was doing nothing but delivering the books. 
This time my postal carrier showed up with it. I nearly knocked him 
over getting it! Good reading when you get it - a definite page 
turner.....

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Kathrin P <kathrin.p at g...> 
wrote:
> slytherin_dragoon1, I really hope you got your copy! Though, if you
> did, I'd envy you just like I envy everyone who got their copyin
> time... Oh how I hate Amazon and the German Post at the moment...
> Kathrin
> 
> On 7/16/05, slytherin_dragoon1 <lord1912 at y...> wrote:
> > I tracked mine, and it arrived at my local UPS station, less 
than a mile from my house, very early yesterday morning.  I checked 
back again a bit ago, and it said, "In transit", which I took to 
mean that it's on the delivery truck.
> > 
> > But it's nearly 3pm and I'm still sitting here waiting my face 
off...
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kathrin
> ~~~~~






From Cfitz812 at aol.com  Sat Jul 16 23:15:57 2005
From: Cfitz812 at aol.com (Claire)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:15:57 -0000
Subject: I'm finished too
Message-ID: <dbc4fd+b33h@eGroups.com>

I finished it (the first time) about 5 hours ago, but have been too 
drained to think about it (I was in tears for the last two chapters).  
I keep thinking about what someone said - that JKR never does the 
obvious.  This time, it seems, she did.  Or maybe not; only book 7 
will tell.  I think this is the best book since PoA - horrifying, 
funny, sad, exhilarating and, yes, even uplifting.

I'm going back to start rereading.

Claire





From lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 16 23:29:01 2005
From: lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk (Sandra)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:29:01 -0000
Subject: Anyone want to Chat?
In-Reply-To: <dbbp0h+o6m6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbc57t+qpr6@eGroups.com>

Hi, I just finished the book too
how can a find my way to the main hpfgu chat room?
help appreciated
I have tried the link 'chat' on the menu here

Sandra

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jen_kat_du" <jen_kat_du at y...> 
wrote:
> I just finished HBP and I am dying to chat!  I will be in HPFGU Chat 
> room starting at 4 PM EST!  Please join me!
> 
> 
> Jen





From maliksthong at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 00:27:03 2005
From: maliksthong at yahoo.com (Chys Lattes)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:27:03 -0000
Subject: WOW that was a good read!
Message-ID: <dbc8kn+bj7i@eGroups.com>

No spoilers.

It took me 11 hours to read it in one sitting. *gosh* (Yes, I'm slow.)

I got to see a few things I wanted to, can't believe I kind of read it 
like a good fanfic, it was like the canon had changed on me! I like 
the more adult Harry, but the other characters kind of left it lacking 
IMO, but that's just me.

I guess almost half my predictions being close to correct are 
acceptable. *is curious what happened to the book on the adult cover 
after all of that....*

*wants to read book 7..... NOW....*


Chys





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 00:28:54 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:28:54 -0000
Subject: Anyone want to Chat?
In-Reply-To: <dbc57t+qpr6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbc8o6+9m9t@eGroups.com>

just log on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat 

Juli

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sandra" 
<lysandrabellargus at y...> wrote:
> Hi, I just finished the book too
> how can a find my way to the main hpfgu chat room?
> help appreciated
> I have tried the link 'chat' on the menu here
> 
> Sandra
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jen_kat_du" 
<jen_kat_du at y...> 
> wrote:
> > I just finished HBP and I am dying to chat!  I will be in HPFGU 
Chat 
> > room starting at 4 PM EST!  Please join me!
> > 
> > 
> > Jen





From maliksthong at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 00:34:22 2005
From: maliksthong at yahoo.com (Chys Lattes)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:34:22 -0000
Subject: Help with where to buy HP movie Sheet Music?
Message-ID: <dbc92e+m6nd@eGroups.com>

Where can I purchase the sheet music from the HP movies? In flute or 
Guitar, perhaps?

I have looked places I thought I would find it, and unfortunately I 
can't. Can anyone provide a link to a website that's selling it?


Chys





From kelleythompson at gbronline.com  Sun Jul 17 01:02:48 2005
From: kelleythompson at gbronline.com (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:02:48 -0000
Subject: Chat on main
Message-ID: <dbcano+mq5p@eGroups.com>

I haven't read what's been said here, but have been told people are 
having trouble getting into chat on main.  I tried going in, but got 
hung up in the 'logging into system' bit.  However, I'm able to get 
into chat here.

If anyone's around right now, can you try coming into OTC Chat, see if 
that's working for you?  If so, we can just use the room here, and I'll 
put a notice on main that it's been moved.

--Kelley





From swartell at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 01:40:38 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <dbbi26+hbjs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050717014038.78463.qmail@web53206.mail.yahoo.com>



Lorel said:
> Curiously, I was actually a little afraid to start
> reading! I 
> dithered around for an hour before I could actually
> settle down, and 
> then kept finding excuses to do something else for a
> while. ... Did anyone
> else feel this way?
> 

I had similar feelings, at least with respect to not
wanting to _finish_ the book.  Mostly it was to do
with facing the long wait till the next one, I think. 
I had a harder time settling down with OOTP, though. 
That one was much more painful to me, and I had to
take intermittent breaks while reading it.  My biggest
reluctance in getting started with HBP was the fear
that I would have the same experience with this one.
It was very different, and a much more enjoyable book
overall; I must say that I cried more with this one,
though.  (Enjoyable isn't quite the right word there,
given events in the book, but it's the best I can do
in the slightly befuddled state I'm in.)

I want to know the rest of the story.  "you can't just
stop there!" I keep wanting to shout.

Sue


		
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From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 01:55:57 2005
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (ajhuflpuf)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:55:57 -0000
Subject: Here I am in Iraq...
Message-ID: <dbcdrd+mbkj@eGroups.com>

And Amazon.com says they have now shipped the book.  Let's see how 
many weeks it takes to get here!  In the meanwhile, I have to avoid 
everything on the internet because even regular news sites headlines 
had spoilers, and someone being friendly sent me email with a plot 
summary, which I quickly closed before reading further! Can you say 
Augh?  The costume I had prepared sits in storage.

I don't suppose anyone has free time, sitting around?  I would be so 
happy just to see a scan of the first page with the little picture and 
chapter title... (some here had volunteered, a while back..) At any 
rate, I'll post when the book actually reaches me, and we'll test the 
postal system.

Anyhow, enjoy, and won't be online much till I look at the book! 

AJ





From kelleythompson at gbronline.com  Sun Jul 17 01:58:27 2005
From: kelleythompson at gbronline.com (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:58:27 -0000
Subject: Chat on main
In-Reply-To: <dbcano+mq5p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbce03+ptj9@eGroups.com>

I wrote:
> If anyone's around right now, can you try coming into OTC Chat, 
> see if that's working for you?  If so, we can just use the room 
> here, and I'll put a notice on main that it's been moved.

Sorry, guys, OTC chat is not letting me back in, doing the same thing 
chat on main was doing for me.  Petra's working on a work-around, 
though, so hopefully an update here before too long...

--Kelley





From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 02:10:49 2005
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (ajhuflpuf)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:10:49 -0000
Subject: Fw: [HP4GU-GreatLakes] Photos from the book party link - no spoilers
In-Reply-To: <000d01c58a38$ce6786a0$3e4bac43@cauldron1>
Message-ID: <dbcen9+lv92@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bumbledore" <bumbledore at c...> 
wrote:
> > > This is from the HP:HBP part at Shulers Books and Music on 28th 
Streeet in> Grand Rapids, Michigan.> > 
http://photobucket.com/albums/y256/bumbledor/


Auuuggghhh!~  The costumes are great, but please remove the SPOILER in 
the title!  <:-O  

Ok folks, that's it, see you in a few weeks-- I'm shutting down! >;-] 
A.J.






From rxtlc at comcast.net  Sun Jul 17 02:38:32 2005
From: rxtlc at comcast.net (Jenn)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:38:32 -0000
Subject: Delivery screw ups
In-Reply-To: <000701c58a38$9ae70440$3e4bac43@cauldron1>
Message-ID: <dbcgb8+hj05@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bumbledore" <bumbledore at c...> wrote:
> Yea.. IF this backfires, the next book may not get as many "mail order"
> versions.
> 

Well, we're definately doing the party thing next time.  I had to beg and bargain with the 
hubby to get another copy when it hadn't shown up by noon EDT here.  Amazon, you are 
fired in my way of thinking... 
On the other hand, it is nice to be able to read it all and not have to hand it off... at least for a 
week, when we give it to my sister in law.  (I'm done, by the way.  And in shock. Must re-
read!  Must have more Potter!!)
Jenn, who is off to check and see how off her predictions were in the contest... and will hug 
my own little Harry very hard when he wakes up in the morning.





From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sun Jul 17 02:50:35 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:50:35 -0400
Subject: Ahhhem.. (no spoilers)  A request
Message-ID: <002c01c58a7a$4f20ccc0$3e4bac43@cauldron1>

Please pass this on to your kids, if they go into the HP chat rooms on yahoo.

If you have not read the books, don't go into HP Chat rooms on yahoo and whine about what we are discussing there..

Some of us don't want to wait a week for someone to finish reading chapter 2 before we can discuss the book.

Ive been in Yahoo's HP chat room #1 for 2 hours now, and  The whining about us talking about the book is getting a bit annoying.


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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 17 04:02:12 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 17 Jul 2005 04:02:12 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1121572932.142.98012.m17@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 17, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 04:07:00 2005
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (PenapartElf at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:07:00 EDT
Subject: HPfGU Chats
Message-ID: <141.49795a3c.300b3364@aol.com>

Greetings OTC!

Since the ability to create user rooms in Yahoo! Chat is no 
longer unavailable, our work-around of the problematic chat 
rooms offered by Yahoo!Groups is no longer, well, working.  

If you are able to access the chat room at the main list 
( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat ), 
please feel free to continue to use it.  If you are unable to 
access chat at main list but *does* have Yahoo!Messenger 
installed (available at http://messenger.yahoo.com ) read 
on.  :)

So, please bear with us list elves as we try this new work-
around.  Stay tuned to OTC because I'm sure we'll be 
tweaking the following.  What you need to do:

USE THE CONFERENCE FEATURE IN Y!MESSENGER

1.  everyone interested in chatting via Y!Messenger add 
this ID, HPfGU_Chat, to their list of friends

2.  whenever you wish to chat with other HPfGU list members, 
sign in as yourself and see if HPfGU_Chat is already online 
(see note *)

3.  send a YM to HPfGU_Chat and ask to be invited to 
conference

But if HPfGU_Chat is not already online or does not respond:

a.  check that on your version of Y!Messenger you are 
able to invite people to conference first

b.  sign in as HPfGU_Chat (password: chitchat; do not log 
in under invisible mode!) and wait for someone else to 
come online and YM you

c.  start a conference and just "invite to conference" as 
people YM you; even if there's only two of you, please use 
the conference feature when signed in as HPfGU_Chat

* Signing on to Y!Messenger as HPfGU_Chat will log off 
whoever is signed in as HPfGU_Chat...*if* someone is 
indeed already signed in as HPfGU_Chat.  So please sign 
in to Y!Messenger as yourself first to make sure no one is 
already HPfGU_Chat before signing in as HPfGU_Chat.  
But the good thing is, if HPfGU_Chat becomes non-
responsive for whatever reason (what? phones ring...
children and pets require feeding and watering...) it's 
easy enough for someone else to take over the task of 
adding people to the conference.  :)

Ye gads I hope this works...I'm currently signed in as 
HPfGU_Chat so YM me if you want an invite to 
conference.

:) Penapart Elf, with her fingers crossed!



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 17 04:19:00 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:19:00 -0400
Subject: Alternative To Chat
Message-ID: <0IJR001NX7ZH7K9K@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I know there are some like me who find chat's difficult if not impossible
because of their lack of readability for screenreaders or other reasons.
Perhaps a conference call?  I know a conference server in California which
has free conferencing.

I've only gotten to Chap 5, but don't mind spoilers. <Grin>

Anyone interested, let me know and I can pull it together on Tuesday
evening, probably 7:00 P.M. EST.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 05:03:57 2005
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (PenapartElf at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:03:57 EDT
Subject: Alternative To Chat
Message-ID: <6a.597f61e2.300b40bd@aol.com>

Lee:
> Perhaps a conference call?  I know a conference server
> in California which has free conferencing.
 
Oooh...interesting idea...
 
> Anyone interested, let me know and I can pull it together
> on Tuesday evening, probably 7:00 P.M. EST.
 
OTC here is the perfect place to coordinate this.  Just post 
the details here.  Thanks!
 
:) Penapart Elf, wishing her phone line isn't dead...



From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 05:04:50 2005
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (PenapartElf at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:04:50 EDT
Subject: HPfGU Chats
Message-ID: <e4.6d3ea37a.300b40f2@aol.com>

Aha, an addendum already:

If HPfGU_Chat has to leave the conference, if there's anyone 
else left in the conference, they would need to invite 
HPfGU_Chat [whoever willing to play the next host(ess)] *back* 
into the conference.

In order for that to happen, the person doing the inviting needs 
to have that function on their version of Y!Messenger.

Ok, stick a fork in me - I'm done for the night.  <g>

:) Penapart Elf



From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Sun Jul 17 05:31:09 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:31:09 -0400
Subject: Alternative To Chat
References: <0IJR001NX7ZH7K9K@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <01b401c58a90$c604bc50$a359e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Lee wrote:
> I know there are some like me who find chat's difficult if 
> not impossible because of their lack of readability for 
> screenreaders or other reasons. Perhaps a conference call?  
> I know a conference server in California which has free 
> conferencing.
>
> I've only gotten to Chap 5, but don't mind spoilers. <Grin>
>
> Anyone interested, let me know and I can pull it together 
> on Tuesday evening, probably 7:00 P.M. EST.
>
> Just a thought.


Hi, yes a conference call sounds like a good idea but the only 
thing is I know that you have said that you know of a place that 
has free conferencing so does that mean that people who call from 
outside the US, for instance I myself live in Canada, does this 
mean that we will not have to pay for the call?  Many thanks. 

from Mich Verrier.





From glcherry at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 17 06:15:50 2005
From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (stardancerofas)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 06:15:50 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question
Message-ID: <dbct2m+b1lu@eGroups.com>

Mom has Order of the Phoenix and refuses to let me borrow it for 5
seconds to see something, so I'll ask here.
Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks middle
name was?





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 17 06:54:18 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:54:18 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Alternative To Chat
In-Reply-To: <01b401c58a90$c604bc50$a359e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <0IJR00EPIF6BVTN8@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Mich wrote]:
| Hi, yes a conference call sounds like a good idea but the only 
| thing is I know that you have said that you know of a place that 
| has free conferencing so does that mean that people who call from 
| outside the US, for instance I myself live in Canada, does this 
| mean that we will not have to pay for the call?  Many thanks. 

[Lee]:
Sorry, Mich, et al...nope.  It's a 213 California Area Code.  The serving of
the conference is free, in other words, no payment has to be made to create
a conference.

However, if someone knows of a toll-free one, please post it. <Grin>

Lee :-)
(Who should be asleep, but...)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 17 06:57:40 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:57:40 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OoTP Question
In-Reply-To: <dbct2m+b1lu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IJR00APPFBX5AZA@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[stardancerofas]
| Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks middle
| name was?

[Lee]:
I pulled up Regulus and found no middle name in the book.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 17 15:02:10 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 17 Jul 2005 15:02:10 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1121612530.22.28880.m25@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 17, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Sun Jul 17 11:52:22 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:52:22 -0400
Subject: OoTP Question
References: <dbct2m+b1lu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <030901c58ac6$0242ff30$a359e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

> Mom has Order of the Phoenix and refuses to let me borrow it 
> for 5 seconds to see something, so I'll ask here.
> Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks 
> middle name was?

 Mich Verrier now: It was Lestrange






From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Sun Jul 17 11:54:33 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:54:33 -0400
Subject: OoTP Question
References: <0IJR00APPFBX5AZA@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <031f01c58ac6$504257d0$a359e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

> [stardancerofas]
> | Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks 
> | middle name was?
>
> [Lee]:
> I pulled up Regulus and found no middle name in the book.


 Mich Verrier now: I was wrong then when I replied to this message; 
I thought that it might have been Lestrange. 







From monica.coyne at tesco.net  Sun Jul 17 13:26:57 2005
From: monica.coyne at tesco.net (Monica Coyne)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:26:57 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question
In-Reply-To: <dbct2m+b1lu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbdmb1+9k2g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "stardancerofas" 
<glcherry at b...> wrote:
> Mom has Order of the Phoenix and refuses to let me borrow it for 5
> seconds to see something, so I'll ask here.
> Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks middle
> name was?

I checked the bit where Harry and Sirius are looking at the tapestry 
but it only has him down as Regulus Black.  The uncle that gave Sirius 
the gold was called Alphard.  Maybe that was Regulus' middle name.  
You're thinking what I'm thinking I note.

"Monica"





From krussell98 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 17 14:24:36 2005
From: krussell98 at comcast.net (Kathi Russell)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:24:36 -0400
Subject: OoTP Question
References: <dbct2m+b1lu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <010b01c58adb$4341bde0$3f8f3f44@Dude>

stardancerofas: 
> Mom has Order of the Phoenix and refuses to let me borrow it 
> for 5 seconds to see something, so I'll ask here.
> Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks 
> middle name was?

No, I don't know it, but I'm pretty sure you and I are thinking 
along the same line. :)

"Kathi"





From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 17 16:07:55 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:07:55 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: OoTP Question
Message-ID: <410-22005701716755671@earthlink.net>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "stardancerofas" 
> <glcherry at b...> wrote:
> > Mom has Order of the Phoenix and refuses to let me borrow it for 5
> > seconds to see something, so I'll ask here.
> > Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks middle
> > name was?
>
> I checked the bit where Harry and Sirius are looking at the tapestry 
> but it only has him down as Regulus Black.  The uncle that gave Sirius 
> the gold was called Alphard.  Maybe that was Regulus' middle name.  
> You're thinking what I'm thinking I note.
>
> "Monica"
>


Chancie:

It seems that ALOT of us have got the same track of thought.  
I admit at first I had no clue, but then that was at 3am last
night and had only gotten 4 hours of sleep the night before.
When I awoke this morning and had my first cuppa coffee
it hit me like a ton of bricks, it would fit perfectly and answer
many questions.  Perhaps Emerson, or Melissa would have
thought to ask JKR his middle name when they interviewed her?
(Which by the way they say will be posted tomorrow, and 
was very enlightening)  So, is it too early to start counting 
to book 7?

Chancie





From jazmyn at pacificpuma.com  Sun Jul 17 17:33:34 2005
From: jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (mynti_pernworld)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:33:34 -0000
Subject: Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac80050716141775dfed1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dbe4pe+86m0@eGroups.com>

I never got my copy from Amazon and bought the audio version from the
local bookstore.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Kathrin P <kathrin.p at g...> wrote:
> slytherin_dragoon1, I really hope you got your copy! Though, if you
> did, I'd envy you just like I envy everyone who got their copyin
> time... Oh how I hate Amazon and the German Post at the moment...
> Kathrin
tp://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me





From mcleanaliz at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 19:24:23 2005
From: mcleanaliz at gmail.com (alice_loves_cats)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:24:23 -0000
Subject: How DEPRESSING! (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <dbeb97+f5k9@eGroups.com>

Just finished. Oh my God. This one hit me SO much more than OOP. I
love it. I hate it. And the main list is closed. Torture!

Had to let off the steam, I'm going completely mad. My friend is
coming over for a chat, but she's going to read it when it comes out
in Hungarian (roundabout Christmas!), so I can't tell her a thing! I
am going to burst.

OMG. OMG. OMG.
Love, Alice





From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Sun Jul 17 19:31:13 2005
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:31:13 +0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] How DEPRESSING! (no spoilers)
References: <dbeb97+f5k9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c58b06$191a5d30$f941983e@maria>


----- Original Message -----
Alice_loves_cats wrote:
>
>My friend is coming over for a chat, but she's going to read it when it
comes out in Hungarian (roundabout Christmas!), so I can't tell her a thing!
I
> am going to burst.
>
Well, and I am in Russia, where it comes out God knows when. How
frustrating!
Maria.






From carmenharms at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 20:32:42 2005
From: carmenharms at yahoo.com (snazzzybird)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:32:42 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question
In-Reply-To: <410-22005701716755671@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <dbef9a+6fub@eGroups.com>

--- "Chancie " <chnc1024 at e...> wrote:

> > "stardancerofas" <glcherry at b...> wrote:
> > > Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks middle
> > > name was?
> >
> > I checked the bit where Harry and Sirius are looking at the tapestry 
> > but it only has him down as Regulus Black.  The uncle that gave
Sirius 
> > the gold was called Alphard.  Maybe that was Regulus' middle name.  
> > You're thinking what I'm thinking I note.
> >
> > "Monica"

> 
> Chancie:
> 
> It seems that ALOT of us have got the same track of thought.  
> <snip>
> ...it would fit perfectly and answer so many questions.  

snazzzybird:

Oh yes, you're thinking what I'm thinking!  I also think it curious
that Hermione didn't mention him when she was researching possibilities.
--snazzzybird





From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 20:43:18 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:43:18 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question/HBP
In-Reply-To: <dbef9a+6fub@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbeft6+u8ip@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "snazzzybird" 
<carmenharms at y...> wrote:
> --- "Chancie " <chnc1024 at e...> wrote:
> 
> > > "stardancerofas" <glcherry at b...> wrote:
> > > > Can anyone remember what, (or if it was said) Regulus Blacks 
middle
> > > > name was?
> > >
> > > I checked the bit where Harry and Sirius are looking at the 
tapestry 
> > > but it only has him down as Regulus Black.  The uncle that gave
> Sirius 
> > > the gold was called Alphard.  Maybe that was Regulus' middle 
name.  
> > > You're thinking what I'm thinking I note.
> > >
> > > "Monica"
> 
> > 
> > Chancie:
> > 
> > It seems that ALOT of us have got the same track of thought.  
> > <snip>
> > ...it would fit perfectly and answer so many questions.  
> 
> snazzzybird:
> 
> Oh yes, you're thinking what I'm thinking!  I also think it curious
> that Hermione didn't mention him when she was researching 
possibilities.
> --snazzzybird

Andromeda now:

  Another agreement - I thought "Regulus" as soon as I read it --
seemed a pretty obvious possibility- so I was suprised none of the 
trio thought of him.  








From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jul 17 20:48:58 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:48:58 -0000
Subject: How DEPRESSING! (convaluted spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <dbeb97+f5k9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbeg7q+r5tl@eGroups.com>

I've just finished it and I'm devistated.  Apart from the obvious 
(which I thought I'd be OK about if it was that person but have 
discovered that I'm anything but!) I'm really upset about the thing 
that Harry right at the end says he won't do (that Hermione says she 
knew he was going to say).  I cannot believe that that is the case 
and feel as bereft about that as much as the obvious.  

Anyone else feel likewise?  

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "alice_loves_cats" 
<mcleanaliz at g...> wrote:
> Just finished. Oh my God. This one hit me SO much more than OOP. I
> love it. I hate it. And the main list is closed. Torture!
> 
> Had to let off the steam, I'm going completely mad. My friend is
> coming over for a chat, but she's going to read it when it comes 
out
> in Hungarian (roundabout Christmas!), so I can't tell her a thing! 
I
> am going to burst.
> 
> OMG. OMG. OMG.
> Love, Alice





From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 21:20:22 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:20:22 -0000
Subject: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
Message-ID: <dbei2m+6v2l@eGroups.com>

Hey all,

Spent yesterday reading.  Slept a really loong time last night to 
make up for not sleeping at all the previous night.  Loved HBP.

For OoP, I did the midnight party thing at a local Barnes and 
Noble.  It was a blast.  I thought I might do it again this time but 
it turns out I had to work until 11pm on Friday and there was no way 
I'd reach Barnes and Noble from work by midnight.  

So I reserved my copies instead at the Waldenbooks where my best 
friend works.  They opened at 6 am on Saturday.  Surely I could wait 
six hours from its release to get my hands on a copy.  It's been 
*two years.*  Six hours is Nothing.  Heh.

The plan was to get out of work, and hang around until it was time 
to leave.  I would never wake up in time to get my book if I went to 
sleep.  My friends, though, had no such dilemma.  I spoke with them 
briefly as I left work.  They decided to get a few hours in before 
leaving for Waldenbooks.  "Fine," I said.  "Be that way."  The pouty 
response had no effect and off they were to dreamland.

What was a girl to do with five hours on her own the night of the 
HBP release?  Sit home, read some more of OoP?  Catch up on my 
lagging correspondence?  Watch a movie?  Start the laundry?  The 
possibilities were endless, yet none appealed.  I began by obeying 
my grumbling stomach, and headed for Stop & Shop by my workplace.

The inside the double doors read, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood 
Prince Party  11pm-1am."  I promptly ignored the sign and began 
meandering the aisles.  I chose my supper, and stocked up on some 
munchies for the Big Read.  My meandering kept me as far away as I 
could from the center aisles, where a small crowd had gathered, some 
dressed like the HP characters.  I was not interested in a midnight 
release.  I would get my copies in due time.  

If only it were so simple.  If only I had willpower.  As I stood in 
line to pay for my goodies, my eyes lingered long on the Main 
Event.  There was cake and food, a woman dressed as McGonagall, her 
son as Sirius Black...and in the center aisle, a large pile of boxes 
covered with a tarp and chains, the bottom confirming what I knew 
had to be: Boxes marked "Harry Potter."  

The internal struggle began as I started scanning items (Stupid, 
self-checkout.  Hadn't even realized I was in one of those lines.  I 
generally don't use them on principle.  But I was *distracted.*).  

"Come, on, Kathy.  Let's just pay for this stuff and get out of 
here.  You'll have the book in a few short hours."

"Yeah, but, it's right *there.*  I can *see* the boxes.  There 
aren't many people here.  I would have it so soon."

"Yes, but you reserved it elsewhere.  And besides, aren't you 
joining your friends later.  It's not really fair if you've already 
started reading.  Will you be able to keep your mouth shut about 
what you've learned?  Not likely, you bigmouth."

"I won't tell them I got one here.  I won't tell them I started it.  
Promise!"

"Still, it's not right."

"Ooh!  and I only reserved *three* copies at Waldenbooks.  I need 
four.  Remember?  I forgot to get one for cousin Kalin.  I promised 
her months ago!  Then I won't have to worry about a shortage at the 
other store."

"You've got a point..."

I knew I'd broken through.  "And," I pressed on, "*Buying* the book 
doesn't necessarily mean I'll start *reading* it.  Knowing I have it 
could be enough to satiate the compulsion."

This was weak and I knew it, but it was what I really wanted.  Sense 
and fairness died as I put my groceries into the car and turned 
right around back into Stop & Shop.  I waited twenty minutes.  One 
of the managers removed the chains and tarp and all waiting inched 
forward as the boxes were open and books were distributed.  I 
grabbed my copy and paid immediately.  Guilt-ridden yet pleased, I 
left the store and drove home.

Even at home I fought myself before cracking the book.  Just four 
more hours until Waldenbooks.  I could wait.  And there was that new 
factor, preventing me starting on HBP immediately:  Having this book 
means there's only one more left.  Once I've read it, this will 
happen only once more.  

That last thought, more than the Guilty Purchase, stopped me opening 
the book...for another hour. <g>  I got through Chapter Six before I 
left for my real book party.  

I tucked my copy under my bedcovers, disposed of the receipt that 
might betray my midnight visit, and did the Waldenbooks party.  I 
almost slipped once, something I'd learned from the new book, but 
caught myself.  When my friend began reading the first chapter on 
our way home, I tried to react as if this were the first time.  I 
think I got away with it!  Hee!  

The only problem, of course, will occur when I forget I did that, 
and blab my own secret.  It's bound to happen.  I really am no good 
at keeping my own secrets.  

KathyK, just wanting to share






From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 21:53:22 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:53:22 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
Message-ID: <194.42f13167.300c2d52@aol.com>

LOL , I got off of work at 10 and had to drive 1/2 an hour to the bookstore I 
reserved my copy at. I was driving so fast that I got pulled over by a cop on 
the way there. I don't blame you Kathy ... it is really hard to resist the 
temptation of reading the books. Isn't it so depressing there is only one more 
book left ?


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From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 17 22:37:59 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:37:59 -0000
Subject: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
In-Reply-To: <194.42f13167.300c2d52@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dbemk7+e4hs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Hockeygrrrl17 at a... wrote:
> LOL , I got off of work at 10 and had to drive 1/2 an hour to the 
bookstore I reserved my copy at. I was driving so fast that I got 
pulled over by a cop on the way there. I don't blame you Kathy ... it 
is really hard to resist the temptation of reading the books. Isn't it 
so depressing there is only one more book left ?


KathyK:

Did you get a ticket?  Did you explain how vitally important it was to 
get to the bookstore so you could know who the Half-Blood Price was?  
What happens to Harry?  ;-)

I'm very excited that we have new canon, but very sad this will happen 
just once more.

KathyK





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 23:19:56 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:19:56 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
Message-ID: <8a.2afbd60c.300c419c@aol.com>

LOL , 
I didn't get a ticket , and I did say I was going to get the book.  The 
officer laughed and said his wife and son were already there waiting to get the 
book and asked me to just be more careful on the way there.


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From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 23:21:11 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:21:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
Message-ID: <1fb.cb8a66e.300c41e7@aol.com>

Kathy , 
you have finished the book right? Were you at all surprised at how it turned 
out? I don't need specifics so we don't spoil anything for those who haven't 
read it yet.


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From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 23:28:33 2005
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (PenapartElf at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:28:33 EDT
Subject: ADMIN: OTC = HBP-spoiler-free zone
Message-ID: <1a0.37ed732a.300c43a1@aol.com>

REMINDER!

Though OTC is normally intended for off-topic discussions 
about non-Harry Potter topics, while the main list is closed 
you are also welcome to discuss canon here as long as 
you do not include HBP spoilers.

The List Elves has already designated OTChatter to be an 
HBP-spoiler-free zone for the benefit of the members of 
our community who will not have immediate access to 
Half-Blood Prince. Discussing release-night events and 
parties and announcing that you've finished the book and 
are ready to chat are welcome on OTC but not details 
from HBP that can spoil your fellow fans' enjoyment of the 
mysteries and excitement of the new canon. Any post to 
this list containing HBP spoilers will be deleted and the 
poster will be placed on moderated status. You have been 
warned.

For details of the main list closure for HBP, please see 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/132906.

Thanks - cheers!

:) Penapart Elf, so not ready to start the wait for Book 7



From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sun Jul 17 23:43:06 2005
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Bee Chase)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:43:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
In-Reply-To: <1fb.cb8a66e.300c41e7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20050717234306.73567.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com>



Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com wrote:
Kathy , 
you have finished the book right? Were you at all surprised at how it turned 
out? I don't need specifics so we don't spoil anything for those who haven't 
read it yet.

Luckdragon:

Just wanted to put my two cents in here. I finished this a.m. and enjoyed it, but was sorry to see many things I thought we would learn more about were not included.

no surprise about who dies, but I must say I think it may be a hoax or at the very least done for reasons which will aid the good side in the end. I will not believe the killer is evil until I have read book 7.

 




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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Jul 18 00:34:52 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:34:52 -0000
Subject: I hope this isn't a spoiler:
Message-ID: <dbetfc+v11m@eGroups.com>

HBP did *not* reveal why Peeves fears and obeys the Bloody Baron.

I can make up many exciting stories to explain it, but fear that JKR
never thought it out and would answer, on the fly, that the Baron is a
Very Good Bluffer.






From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 00:50:36 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:50:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Alternative To Chat
In-Reply-To: <0IJR001NX7ZH7K9K@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <20050718005036.65356.qmail@web51608.mail.yahoo.com>

I would be interested in a conference call.  Who would be guiding the discussion?  And what are some be some topics?  You could reply off list for the topics as they might be spoilers.
 
Kemper


"(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at arrl.net> wrote:
I know there are some like me who find chat's difficult if not impossible
because of their lack of readability for screenreaders or other reasons.
Perhaps a conference call?  I know a conference server in California which
has free conferencing.

I've only gotten to Chap 5, but don't mind spoilers. <Grin>

Anyone interested, let me know and I can pull it together on Tuesday
evening, probably 7:00 P.M. EST.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From rbookworm46 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 02:25:07 2005
From: rbookworm46 at yahoo.com (rbookworm46)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:25:07 -0000
Subject: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
In-Reply-To: <dbei2m+6v2l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbf3u3+s7r4@eGroups.com>

KathyK, just wanting to share:
Guilt-ridden yet pleased, I left the store and drove home.
Even at home I fought myself before cracking the book.  

Bookworm:
Bought the book pre-reserved at B&N with my daughter and her 
friend.  Got home, greeted DH (who flew in Friday evening), visited 
with my sister, then started reading about 1:30 am.  Fell asleep 
between 6:30 and 7:00.  Woke up about 10:30, visited some more, then 
finished the book about 2:45 pm.  I just sat there thinking, "Oh. 
My. Word."

When I came out of the bedroom my daughter grabbed the book and 
disappeared into her room.  On the way to the mall with my sister a 
little later, I called Mom and left a message telling her to resist 
reading the last few pages for once in her life.  She Always cheats, 
even with mysteries.  She called back this evening to say she hadn't 
cheated - yet <g> but has only read chapter 1.

We stopped at Target on the way home where I saw HBP selling for 
less than $17.  Couldn't resist temptation and wait for daughter to 
finish before starting my second reading...  but haven't let the 
family see the other copy yet <hanging head>.

This is my new favorite HP book.  And that's my story...
Ravenclaw Bookworm





From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 18 03:03:30 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:03:30 -0000
Subject: I hope this isn't a spoiler:
In-Reply-To: <dbetfc+v11m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbf662+al19@eGroups.com>

I'm just one chapter shy of finishing the book.  I needed a well 
deserved breather.  I don't think there is the slightest detail that 
JKR hasn't fully examined.  I'm nearly speechless at this point.

A children's book?  Wow!  Stephen King couldn't even full off a 
shocker like this!

Absolutely brilliant, Jo!

Joe




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:
> HBP did *not* reveal why Peeves fears and obeys the Bloody Baron.
> 
> I can make up many exciting stories to explain it, but fear that JKR
> never thought it out and would answer, on the fly, that the Baron is 
a
> Very Good Bluffer.





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 03:15:04 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:15:04 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've finished.
In-Reply-To: <42D934B4.4274.17557BE@localhost>
Message-ID: <013c01c58b46$e5094a10$0400a8c0@pensive>

I am trying to get into the mainlist room, but I have very irregular 
luck with yahoo chatrooms via the webpage.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 


Sherry now:

finished this afternoon and am now back home preparing to reread.  I can't
use the yahoo chat, but if anyone wants to chat by instant messenger, I'm on
MSN messenger and my messenger address is

sherriola at earthlink.net

I am bursting to talk about it!

Sherry




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 03:24:29 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:24:29 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Alternative To Chat
In-Reply-To: <0IJR00EPIF6BVTN8@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <013d01c58b48$35b3d010$0400a8c0@pensive>

[Lee]:
Sorry, Mich, et al...nope.  It's a 213 California Area Code.  The serving of
the conference is free, in other words, no payment has to be made to create
a conference.

However, if someone knows of a toll-free one, please post it. <Grin>

Lee :-)
(Who should be asleep, but...)



Sherry now:

What about skype?  It's a free voice chat program that is also accessible,
if you use anything but the most current version.  You need a computer
microphone to participate, but you can talk to anyone anywhere, and I
believe it does allow for conferencing.  

Sherry




From dianasdolls at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 03:31:22 2005
From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:31:22 -0000
Subject: OT Battlestar Galactica
Message-ID: <dbf7qa+jlah@eGroups.com>

My DH missed the season opener of "Battlestar Galactica" on July 15th, 
Friday.  He's really bummed about missing it.

If anyone taped this and would be willing to mail me that tape, please 
contact me off list at dianasdolls @ yahoo.com.  I'd be happy to pay 
for postage costs to and from or pay for the cost of the tape.  

Thank you!

Diana L.






From glcherry at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 18 03:35:24 2005
From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (stardancerofas)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:35:24 -0000
Subject: Thanks and Confessions of a Fan
Message-ID: <dbf81s+f644@eGroups.com>

To all those of like mind, and you know who you are ;) thanks for the
quick replies!

I have to confess, after the heartbreak of OoTP (I still can't read
the whole thing again), I was bound and determined NOT to go out at
midnight for a copy of HBP. I wasn't going to do it,(stamps foot) NO!
I would not go to bed crying my eyes out again. You see for OoTP I had
just lost my little dog, AND my Godfather one month apart. I couldn't
take any more loss.

You guessed it. I went. I don't know what happened! One minute I'm
eating peanut butter and bananas, the next I've got my wand in my back
pocket, a gryffindor patch on my cape, and am literally flying out the
door. Sigh, so much for my legendary self control.

I can't say I'm disappointed in the "Death" this time. After OoTP, I
wanted to kill (insert persons name if you have finished reading here)
myself.

Now, begins the long wait for the last book, which I'm hoping will be
soon.

Once again, all you thinking the same as I, thanks! :)

Lorrie





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 18 03:51:11 2005
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (Emily)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:51:11 -0000
Subject: Allergic to Harry Potter
Message-ID: <dbf8vf+h0j8@eGroups.com>

Shortly after getting my grubby hands on a copy of HBP, I got itchy 
hives on my fingers.  Did anyone else have this experience?

Emily
who wonders if maybe Scholastic used bubotuber pus in the paper





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 03:55:31 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:55:31 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Confessions of a Harry Potter Fan
Message-ID: <cd.2c6a816f.300c8233@aol.com>

Luckdragon , 
I am on the same track as you . As for all the people who have finished and 
want to talk about it before we can post anything , feel free to email me at 
Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com. I am impatient and can't wait very long :).


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 03:57:32 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:57:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Allergic to Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <dbf8vf+h0j8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050718035732.28205.qmail@web41114.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Emily <imamommy at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Shortly after getting my grubby hands on a copy of
> HBP, I got itchy 
> hives on my fingers.  Did anyone else have this
> experience?
> 
> Emily
> who wonders if maybe Scholastic used bubotuber pus
> in the paper
> 
Sheryll:
My daughter says it's happened to her, too. I'm more
inclined to think heatrash, as it's all over and we're
in the midst of a heatwave. 

Just heat exhaustion in my case, no rash.

Sheryll, melting quietly in a corner

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 18 04:00:03 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:00:03 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Alternative To Chat
In-Reply-To: <013d01c58b48$35b3d010$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <0IJT0071D1RXAF8O@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

| 
| 
| Sherry now:
| 
| What about skype?  It's a free voice chat program that is 
| also accessible,
| if you use anything but the most current version.  You need a computer
| microphone to participate, but you can talk to anyone anywhere, and I
| believe it does allow for conferencing.  

[Lee]:
Not everyone has it, and I don't have it, because it might interfere with my
EchoLink program with some of the shared files.

I've run into problems with installing more than one VOIP program.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 18 04:03:36 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:03:36 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT Battlestar Galactica
In-Reply-To: <dbf7qa+jlah@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IJT001GA1XTTO21@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Diana,

May I forward your request to my Battlestar Galactica list?  Perhaps someone
there can help you.

If you wanted the original series, I probably could, but I haven't bothered
with the remake (or "Neo-BSG" as we call it on the list.)

Let me know if I can re-transmit your message.

Cheers,
Lee - BSG-Theme Co-Moderator
"n2fgc at arrl.net"

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 18 04:23:07 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:23:07 -0400
Subject: Conference Call for Any Interested Parties
Message-ID: <0IJT00F7L2UCO74V@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Hi All,

Okay, here's what I intend to do.

I'd like to invite whoever wants to discuss HBP to join me on a phone chat
Tuesday, July 20, 7:15 P.M. EST.  I haven't finished the book yet, but don't
mind spoilers!! :-)

This is not a toll-free call!  The conference server is, however, free so I
don't have to fill someone's pocket with galleons I don't have. :-)

As far as an end time, well--we end when we end, so bring a butterbeer and
cauldron cakes and relax and talk.

Topics:
What else...HBP. :-)  I thought we might, rather than hit it from
Chapter-By-Chapter, take on each character and see the book from their
perspectives and how they interact.  Of course, this isn't carved in stone
or written in blood.  The most important thing is to relax and discuss, and
enjoy talking with other listers.

The telephone number is:
213 213-6066

The conference code will be:
HOGWARTS (46492787)

Any questions, write to me off list at:
"n2fgc at arrl.net".

Magically Yours,
Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 04:40:26 2005
From: patientx3 at aol.com (huntergreen_3)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:40:26 -0000
Subject: How DEPRESSING! (no spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <dbeb97+f5k9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbfbrq+k7j8@eGroups.com>

 "alice_loves_cats" <mcleanaliz at g...> wrote:
> Just finished. Oh my God. This one hit me SO much more than OOP. I
> love it. I hate it. And the main list is closed. Torture!


Oh goodness, I know how you feel. I made the mistake of finishing it 
when I got home from work last night when I was in the middle of a 
close / open at my job (I got home at about 1am and had to leave the 
next day at around 8:30am). Once I got a few chapters through, I had to 
accept that I wasn't going to be able to only read a few and go to 
sleep (my brain was WIDE AWAKE). "It" hit me like a ton of bricks when 
I got to that part. It wasn't quite as bad as I felt at the end of 
OotP, but that was just because that whole book was depressing. 

BTW, I finished at 6:30 in the morning, and only slept about an hour 
before going to work, it was a HARD day at work (my co-worker is a HP 
fan, but she hadn't read it yet, and I found out after mentioning 
something about Sirius dying that she hadn't read OotP yet, and I sort 
of spoiled her on accident....opps). All day though, all I can think 
about is I can't believe ::blank:: happened. Its been driving me crazy! 

-Rebecca, waiting eagerly for the list to re-open. 
PS. If anyone wants to talk about the book, e-mail at patientx3 @ 
aol.com, I'm dying to talk to someone about it (okay, well, I talked to 
my brother, but seeing how he doesn't even know who any of the 
characters are, it doesn't really count)






From sharon8880 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 05:19:23 2005
From: sharon8880 at yahoo.com (sharon)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:19:23 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
Message-ID: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>

I pre-ordered my HBP back in January at the Borders store in 
Dearborn, Michigan.  I've never done the midnight release bit 
before, so I thought I'd try it this time.  OMG what an 
experience!!!!  I got there shortly before 11 pm with  hubby & son.  
The place was totally packed. There had to have been easily 600 
customers & 50 employees in this store, which is of just average 
size. You had to check in to get a ticket with a number on it.  The 
number on it designated your place in line to get the book at 
midnight.  My number was 403. At midnight, they started taking 
people in line in groups of 100. They would give you the book at the 
end of the line right in front of the cash registers. The line was 
wrapped all around the store just for the first 100. It took me 
waiting in line until about 1:30 am to get my book.

They had been making wizard themed crafts for the kids. Craft 
supplies were strewn all over the store.  People were taking books 
off shelves & reading them whereever they wanted.  They just left 
the on the floor when they were done.  In the kids section, about 
2/3 of the shelves had piles of books on the floor in front of 
them.  Garbage cans were overflowing.  This store was a complete 
mess. We've been having very warm & humid weather here.  With the 
body heat of all those people, the air conditioning made no 
difference. I felt sorry for the employees. I'm sure they had to 
clean up after getting the last customer out which was probably 
close to 3 am.  I just couldn't believe the chaos.  I don't think 
I'll do this bit next time.  Did anyone have the same experience or 
was yours' quicker &  smoother?
Sharon





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Jul 18 04:50:37 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:50:37 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Alternative To Chat
References: <013d01c58b48$35b3d010$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <047101c58b54$411d9a60$81e1e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Lee]:
> Sorry, Mich, et al...nope.  It's a 213 California Area Code.  The serving 
> of
> the conference is free, in other words, no payment has to be made to 
> create
> a conference.
>
> However, if someone knows of a toll-free one, please post it. <Grin>
>
> Lee :-)
> (Who should be asleep, but...)
>
>
>
> Sherry now:
>
> What about skype?  It's a free voice chat program that is also accessible,
> if you use anything but the most current version.  You need a computer
> microphone to participate, but you can talk to anyone anywhere, and I
> believe it does allow for conferencing.
>
> Sherry

Mich Verrier now: Yes Skype does allow for conference calls and it is accessible and it is free so I think that if all of us get skype then that might be the best way to go. 
>From Mich Verrier.







From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 05:33:22 2005
From: patientx3 at aol.com (huntergreen_3)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:33:22 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbfev2+9nhu@eGroups.com>

"sharon" <sharon8880 at y...> wrote:
>> I just couldn't believe the chaos. I don't think
I'll do this bit next time. Did anyone have the same experience or
was yours' quicker & smoother?<<

I ordered mine from a 24-hour grocery store by my house. I'm not 
really into the big "event" thing, I think mainly because I was too 
excited about reading the book to want to get hung up with other fans 
(perhaps for one of the movies I could handle an event, but those 
aren't as exciting as a new book). At around midnight I walked down 
there, picked up the book and went right home, it was real quick, and 
they had it on sale for $17.99, so it wasn't more expensive than 
getting it from Amazon (which I did with Order of the Phoenix). I 
wasn't the only one getting the book from the store, I saw two other 
people come to pick one up in the five minutes I was there. The 
checker (just one at that time of night), was asking everyone he 
checked out if they were getting a book, and it appeared everyone was 
(no crowd or anything though, hardly more customers than they usually 
do at midnight).


-Rebecca





From marilynpeake at cs.com  Mon Jul 18 05:56:03 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:56:03 -0400
Subject: Interesting Articles - Harry Potter
Message-ID: <005301c58b5d$61f51c00$6c00a8c0@marilyn>


For everyone who's interested, I found some interesting news articles
about J.K. Rowling and her Harry Potter series:

"New Potter Book Breaks Sales Records" -
http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2005/07/17/180639.html

"Rowling Filled With Dread on Potter's End" -
http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2005/07/17/180757.html

Cheers,
Marilyn

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From siskiou at vcem.com  Mon Jul 18 06:32:32 2005
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:32:32 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>
References: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1177243269.20050717233232@vcem.com>



Hi,

Sunday, July 17, 2005, 10:19:23 PM, sharon8880 at yahoo.com wrote:

> Did anyone have the same experience or 
> was yours' quicker &  smoother?

Our's was much quicker and smoother.

I called the store a couple of days before to find out when
they would start handing out the numbers (we went to the
same Borders for OotP).

Turns out they started at 9am, so I made sure to be there a
few minutes before 9.

There was only one person in front of me, but she had
ordered 6 books, so I got number 7.

At 11:30pm we headed to the store and were on our way home
again by 12:10am.

Since we are all three a little too old for the games they
had lined up (our daughter is 13), a half our was plenty of
time to see the atmosphere, talk to a few acquaintances we
met there, and then line up for the book :)

Since I was the one to get the number (daughter wanted to
sleep in), I had first dibs on the book.

Read until 5:30am, and then finished the next day after my
daughter had her turn.

We constantly tell my husband to plug his ears so we don't
spoil him when discussing some plot point <g>.

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From gbannister10 at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 06:50:46 2005
From: gbannister10 at aol.com (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:50:46 -0000
Subject: How DEPRESSING! (convaluted spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <dbeg7q+r5tl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbfjg6+j8dc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker" 
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:

Karen:
> I've just finished it and I'm devistated.  Apart from the obvious 
> (which I thought I'd be OK about if it was that person but have 
> discovered that I'm anything but!) I'm really upset about the thing 
> that Harry right at the end says he won't do (that Hermione says 
she 
> knew he was going to say).  I cannot believe that that is the case 
> and feel as bereft about that as much as the obvious.  
> 

Geoff:
It doesn't follow that he will. This is a bit of a knee-jerk 
reaction. How often do we think about making snap decisions when 
something drastic happens and then backtrack on them when we've given 
it more time?

He's obviously in a similar sort of mood to that at the end of OOTP 
but that seemed to have lifted a bit at the beginning of HBP.

I have to say that I have enjoyed the book more than OOTP. I found my 
first read of Phoenix was very heavy going but this one, with a whole 
raft of new characters and a number of revelations, an easier passage.






From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Jul 18 04:58:53 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:58:53 -0400
Subject: OT Blind Justice episode 13
References: <dbf7qa+jlah@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <049501c58b55$698b6030$81e1e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

Hi all. I too missed a show - I missed the final episode of the 
ABC drama Blind Justice, it aired on June 21 apparently. The 
Episode was called Fancy Footwork. If any one has the audio file 
of this program with the audio description and can send it to me through something like yousendit.com that would be great. 
Or if any one has taped this show, then do you think you could 
possibly E Mail me off list so that I might borrow the tape 
possibly? My E Mail address is: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca

 Many thanks. from Mich Verrier. 







From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 08:18:30 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:18:30 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <1177243269.20050717233232@vcem.com>
Message-ID: <dbfokm+clqp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Susanne <siskiou at v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sunday, July 17, 2005, 10:19:23 PM, sharon8880 at y... wrote:
> 
> > Did anyone have the same experience or 
> > was yours' quicker &  smoother?
> 

Our Borders party was good fun - we took several costumed 6-8-year-
olds (get this, a Daniel and and Emma as Harry and Hermione - and 
they look the parts, too).  They had some fun activities for the 
little ones: wand-making, stories and coloring, lots of promotional 
freebies, potion-making, bertie bott's tasting, a costume contest... 
and they kept the cafe open the whole time, so lots of junk food and 
coffee consumed.  The store didn't get crowded until about 10:30, 
and by midnight is was packed (I never would have guessed we had so 
many Potter fans in this little town).  They did a countdown and 
everything.  Because we got there early we had a good ticket number 
and got our book within 15 minutes.  All went smoothly.  Everyone 
was excited but polite.

For OOP I didn't do the midnight thing, so I found it a pleasant 
thing to be surrounded by fellow fanatics.  I'll definitely be there 
for the last book, whether the kids go or not.

And as for the book itself.....  wow.  I was in such a tizzy after 
finishing it with no one to talk to.  My noble husband finally said 
go ahead and tell me (I guess the sobbing concerned him), I won't be 
bothered by spoilers. It helped, but still not as satisfying as 
talking to someone who has actually read it.  He is working on it. 
I'm dying for my sister to finish reading it, because I know she'll 
be in terrible shock, but may have some ideas similar to mine.  
Actually, the first person I found who'd finished it was my 60 year 
old mother.  Got so wrapped up in it she forgot to go to church.  
ANother one taken down the dark side by Jo Rowling.  :)

-Andromeda





From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 09:50:18 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050718095018.83258.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

sharon wrote:
 
Did anyone have the same experience or 
was yours' quicker &  smoother?

 
Lynn:
 
I went to a Borders here in England and was sorry I did.  I preordered there because they said they would have a party starting at 10 and going until 2.  They didn't - good thing I didn't show up until 11:20 or so.  About 10 minutes before midnight someone came around with a quiz for the kids (which looked to be the same one they gave out for OOP as it had a question about the names of the the 4 books currently out and not given to adults unless they asked for it) and a bucket of penny candy (gummy worms and such).  That was about it.  There were no numbers, I asked when I came in, you just got in line, better for me but worse for the others who came earlier expecting a party.  I also thought it wasn't fair to those who preordered as it appears that many were in the back of the line as they had been told there would be separate lines and they figured they'd get theirs quickly.  I went and got all the items I was intending to buy that night and got in line.  They were also offering a
 20% discount on any book you bought as long as you pre-ordered.  What they neglected to say was they were no longer honoring the 20% discount after midnight - you had to buy your books before then.  I'm assuming they wanted the cashier line to go quickly with people only buying the one book at midnight but there should have been something to that effect on the coupon or even posted when you came in the door.  It is possible that some were told by the people greeting at the door but as I didn't have a child with me, I was ignored when I came it.  So, in my case, they lost out on over ?100 in sales as I left all that I was going to buy, even those things not covered by the 20% at the cash register, such as the HP doll and flashlight for my daughter.  I only left with HBP.  I got my special bag only because I complained loudly about it.  Apparently, the bag was intended only for the kids.  Seeing as this was the only promotional item available, I wanted it.  I think that's what
 bothered me the most, that adults were dismissed as nothing more than a wallet.  In fact, when I came in I said hello to one of the greeters who turned away from me to greet a teen coming in the door behind me.
 
I was very disappointed with Borders here but that may have been due to my wonderful experiences with Borders in the US.  Since I'll probably still be here when the 7th book comes out, I think I'll not preorder and just run over to ASDA or Woolworths who both had the books available at midnight and cheaper as well.  



 

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From crabtree at ktc.com  Mon Jul 18 10:12:05 2005
From: crabtree at ktc.com (Jo)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:12:05 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?/missing church
In-Reply-To: <dbfokm+clqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbfv9l+j5rp@eGroups.com>


> Actually, the first person I found who'd finished it was my 60 year 
> old mother.  Got so wrapped up in it she forgot to go to church.  
> ANother one taken down the dark side by Jo Rowling.  :)
> 
> -Andromeda

My experience was much better this time than for OotP.  We were out 
of Hastings shortly after midnight, but still faced an hour drive 
home 60 miles away. After delivering some other copies that I picked 
up for people in our little town and drove 15 more miles to get to 
out house in the country I finally started reading around 2:00 AM.

I got only two hours sleep that night, but a person has to sleep 
sometime so eventually I pieced together about 8 hours by Sunday.

I have to admit that I shamelessly use my sick 21 year old daughter 
as an excuse to miss my Bible class while I sat home and read. I knew 
she was feeling really bad since she was halfway finished with her 
copy and stopped reading.  Of course, throwing up was also a clue. 
When it came time for church I forced myself to pick up my Bible and 
head off.  Just in case I needed it, I put HBP in the car. (You never 
know when you might get stuck in traffic - on a country road - or in 
a booming town of 2000 people - on a Sunday morning.)  As I was 
walking into the building, I thought something felt odd about my 
Bible. I looked down and instead of carring my Bible, I had HBP.  I 
said, "Oops! Wrong book!" and turned around to go back to the car.  
An astute gentleman laughed and said, "Did you bring in Harry 
Potter?"  Blushing I had to admit he was right before going back for 
my Bible.  I then skipped our traditional family lunch at a local 
restaurant to "check on how our daughter was feeling."  

Daughter is better but not finished reading, and I am going mad 
wanting to talk to someone.

Jo





From h.m.s at mweb.co.za  Mon Jul 18 11:53:24 2005
From: h.m.s at mweb.co.za (H.M.S)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:53:24 +0200
Subject: Pre order Party
References: <1121685656.1386.15364.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <00b001c58b8f$67c14230$0200a8c0@Sharon>

Hi
Here in Durban, South Africa, I went to the closed party organised by
Exclusive Books.  I don't think the organisers realised how many adults were
also fans - not just wallets.  We were excluded from the fancy dress and
quizz sessions, even though some adults clearly wanted to participate.
There was also a magic show, "Fire dancing" and celtic dancers.

Once the lines started forming at about 12.45 however - proceedings were
very slick.  The people around me were definately there for themselves - not
for their kids.  We were checking the times in the UK and SA to make sure we
got our books on time (we are 1 hour behind).  So I got my book at 1.04am
and by 1.25 everyone had collected their books.  Apparantly about 800 books
had been pre-ordered and paid for.  Receipts were well organised - so it was
a case of hand over your slip with one hand and collect HBP with the other.

I had a bit of a private giggle - there was a very large chap in the que
behind me - not someone to meet around a dark corner, who kept insisting he
was just there to mark his girlfriend's place.  However, he also knew an
aweful lot about HP!!  Eventually he was so enthusiastic - he decided that
next time he would come as McNair the executioner.  I wanted to tell him he
was a natural for Hagrid!

Sharon - South Africa




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 12:57:23 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:57:23 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <dbfe4r+bm0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003201c58b98$3e2a5a20$0400a8c0@pensive>

I went to a Borders too, in Redmond Washington.  it seemed to go pretty
smoothly.  i had called during the week to find out the plans, because i
have other disabilities, more than just my blindness, than cause me to
experience a lot of pain if I have to stand for too long.  They told me
there wouldn't be any standing in line, that they were giving away numbers
starting at 7, and then they'd take people in groups of 50.  So, I met my
friend there at 7 to get the number, go to dinner and just hang out till
midnight.  Well, there was a huge line to get the numbers!  Should have
thought of that, shouldn't I?  But we met a nice family in front of us in
the line, and I enjoyed chatting with the oldest daughter about the books
and her hopes and feelings about HBP.  they told us when to move forward and
made sure we were following everyone.  I was number 64.

i spoke to the managers, because they had said the routine would be that
people would line up by number at 11:30.  I knew that if I had to stand in
line that long, I wouldn't be able to walk for days.  i explained about my
problem, saying I didn't want special treatment, but could I sit somewhere
till my number's turn to buy the book.  They said they'd take care of it, to
come back closer to time, and not to worry.  

My friend and I went to dinner, then returned, got something in the cafe and
waited outside on a bench, right by where the line would form.  A nice
Borders employee came and checked on us, from time to time, saying they had
everything planned.  our friends from the number line came back.

at last, the countdown arrived.  everyone was so excited.  It was so fun to
be a part of it, listening to the enthusiasm of the crowds.  They had
numbers 1 through 20 go first, the 30 to 50.  Somewhere in there, an
employee came and said he could assist me in getting my book.  I explained
that it wasn't my turn yet, but he said it was ok.  Nobody in line seemed
angry that we got to go ahead, and it was close to time for my group.  i was
glad for the assistance, because it was total mayhem in the store!  we had
to go to one spot to get the book, then weave through people, displays,
counters, books and everything else to get to a cashier.  But I had my book
and was leaving the store by about 12:20 or so.  

and I think that reading the audio version takes longer, because you have to
go at the rate of the narrator, but even so, we finished yesterday
afternoon.  Of course, I have come back home and immediately started over!
Trying to pick up things I may have missed, look for clues and all the rest.

overall, my Borders experience was great!  The staff at our local store was
courteous, professional and well organized.  I would definitely do it again,
next time.

sherry




From finwitch at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 13:21:44 2005
From: finwitch at yahoo.com (finwitch)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:21:44 -0000
Subject: Fire-witch at Hogwarts?
Message-ID: <dbgad8+4u06@eGroups.com>

If any of you have read Enchanted Forest Chronicles by Patricia C 
Wrede -- question: How would a fire-witch do as a Hogwarts student? 
That thought just won't leave me...

Finwitch





From finwitch at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 13:34:47 2005
From: finwitch at yahoo.com (finwitch)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:34:47 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question/HBP
In-Reply-To: <dbeft6+u8ip@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com>


> Andromeda now:
> 
>   Another agreement - I thought "Regulus" as soon as I read it --
> seemed a pretty obvious possibility- so I was suprised none of the 
> trio thought of him.

Finwitch:

Why should they? Sirius *told* them his brother was killed - on 
Voldemort's orders (as Sirius doesn't think Voldemort considered him 
worthy to be killed by Voldemort in person...). Why would they consider 
Sirius' dead brother to be in his place? Metamorphmagus maybe...

But I have another question - JKR confirmed that the Order does indeed 
use Patronuses to deliver messages -- why didn't they teach Harry how 
to do that??? The main problem - particularly in the end of OOP was 
that Harry hadn't a reliable source of communication at hand - (Rowling 
also said that the mirror wouldn't have helped as much as Harry thought 
it would have...) and I haven't got my hands on HBP yet, but...

Finwitch





From amis917 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 14:56:22 2005
From: amis917 at hotmail.com (amis917)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:56:22 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <003201c58b98$3e2a5a20$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbgfum+boia@eGroups.com>

I also opted for the Borders experience. I had been in the store a 
few days earlier and found out about the line numbers. I also called 
the day before, and they told me they were going to start handing 
numbers out at 9am. I went up there (about a 30 minute drive) and 
there was a fairly long line to get the numbers. I didn't have a copy 
reserved, so I asked an employee if I could be given a line number 
before I stood in line. He told me that without a reserve, I could 
not. Since I had already driven up there, I looked around the store 
for a while. When I was leaving, the number line was gone. I walked 
up to the table, and they just gave me a number! I was 154. 

The store at night was CRAZY. It was not orderly at all. They were 
trying to announce people in groups of 50 to get their books, but you 
couldn't hear over the intercom. So this guy was standing on a chair 
yelling instead. You couldn't hear him either. They were trying to 
make the people with high numbers go to the back of the store, but 
they couldn't hear anything back there - so they didn't budge. It was 
SO hot. Evenutally (after my number was called) they had some other 
employees going through the store yelling whenever they called the 
next set of numbers. They also sent someone outside, so people could 
wait out there. I left the store around 1am, HBP in hand, tired, and 
HOT.

I don't think I'll do it again. The activities were kids only :(  I 
really wanted to make a HP bracelet too! It was SO crowded, and since 
other stores were selling them cheaper - I'll probably jsut do that 
next time.  It was definately a learning experience! :D


Since I had put myself, and my very tolerant - non HP reading 
boyfriend, though that experience, I had to start HBP whenever I got 
home. ;) I read through chapter 4, and went to bed around 2:45am . I 
got up early, read and napped throughout the day, and finished around 
4pm. It was an exhausting experience from which I'm still not fully 
recovered.

After all of that I'm having a love-hate relationship with HBP. JKR 
says atleast 2 years until book 7. I'm going to need atleast that 
long to recover from HBP! :D







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 17:12:37 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <003201c58b98$3e2a5a20$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <20050718171237.89314.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

The midnight party at our local Chapters store went
fairly smoothly, with only a few small
glitches/oversights.

They handed out wristbands at 10, following that up
with the activities. The sorting was a bit lame, as
they asked each person what house they wanted to be
in. The activities were *all* geared to children.
You'd think they'd had the foresight to at least
include some trivia that wasn't so easy an 8 year old
could answer easily.

They had butterbeer - an odd mixture of root beer,
caramel and melted butter. It might have worked,
tastewise, had the ingredients mixed together
properly.

The biggest glitch was the disorganisation that had
them selling books to the general public about 5
minutes before giving them to those of us who had
pre-ordered. 

Would I do it again? In a heartbeat. It's a lot of
fun. And I'd done a CBC interview that day, so we had
a couple people come up and say "Hey, we saw you on
TV" and ask to take our pictures. :)

Sheryll, dying of heat

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From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 17:14:17 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:14:17 -0000
Subject: *Half Blood Prince Procrastinators
In-Reply-To: <1a3.37b3b4a3.3009605a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dbgo19+ukk9@eGroups.com>

HI!

C U T E !

By me not ordering a book, 

after going to 3 diff H P Parties,

"loads of fun",

I got the book #6 for $14.++, and

that was after IND Tax's.

Gail in IND




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>  
> _http://www.overduemedia.com/archive.aspx?strip=20050715_ 
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>  
> Have fun tonight!
>  
> ---Mary
>  
> 
> 
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From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 17:20:26 2005
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:20:26 -0000
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
Message-ID: <dbgocq+22be@eGroups.com>

Exciting news for those using accessibility devices!
Jo's site now has accessibility tools on the main site.

I am enjoying playing with the Sound Glossary myself, in the Site 
Help. hehe

I would sincerely appreciate hearing from anyone who uses such devices 
to tell me how these tools might help you and what they do.
Belinda





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 17:23:59 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:23:59 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <dbgocq+22be@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008101c58bbd$7c7417b0$0400a8c0@pensive>

This is very good news!  i've loved the text only site, but there were
always things left off that.  I'm expecting company in a few minutes, but
later this afternoon, I'll check out the site and make a report.

sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:20 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR.com Accessibility enabled


Exciting news for those using accessibility devices!
Jo's site now has accessibility tools on the main site.

I am enjoying playing with the Sound Glossary myself, in the Site 
Help. hehe

I would sincerely appreciate hearing from anyone who uses such devices 
to tell me how these tools might help you and what they do.
Belinda




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From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 17:44:28 2005
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:44:28 -0000
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <008101c58bbd$7c7417b0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbgpps+mpm6@eGroups.com>

Wonderful Sherry!
I'm anxious to hear from you! 
I instantly thought of you and the others on this group.
The site help options lists jaws and window eyes... do you use either 
of those?
Belinda

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> This is very good news!  i've loved the text only site, but there 
were
> always things left off that.  I'm expecting company in a few 
minutes, but
> later this afternoon, I'll check out the site and make a report.
> 
> sherry
> 
> 






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 18 18:33:15 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:33:15 -0400
Subject: Correction (was RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Conference Call for Any
 Interested Parties)
In-Reply-To: <0IJT00F7L2UCO74V@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <0IJU00114677V7X1@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Oy! I made a slight goof on my message about the conference call.  My goof
was in the date which I wrote as July 20.  It should be July 19.  Here's a
reprint of the message with the correction.

Hi All,

Okay, here's what I intend to do.

I'd like to invite whoever wants to discuss HBP to join me on a phone chat
Tuesday, July 19, 7:15 P.M. EST.  I haven't finished the book yet, but don't
mind spoilers!! :-)

This is not a toll-free call!  The conference server is, however, free so I
don't have to fill someone's pocket with galleons I don't have. :-)

As far as an end time, well--we end when we end, so bring a butterbeer and
cauldron cakes and relax and talk.

Topics:
What else...HBP. :-)  I thought we might, rather than hit it from
Chapter-By-Chapter, take on each character and see the book from their
perspectives and how they interact.  Of course, this isn't carved in stone
or written in blood.  The most important thing is to relax and discuss, and
enjoy talking with other listers.

The telephone number is:
213 213-6066

The conference code will be:
HOGWARTS (46492787)

Any questions, write to me off list at:
"n2fgc at arrl.net".

Magically Yours,

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 18:34:59 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: OoTP Question/HBP (Possible spoiler alert)
In-Reply-To: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050718183459.75158.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com>



> Andromeda (suprised):
> 
>   Another agreement - I thought "Regulus" as soon as I read it --
> seemed a pretty obvious possibility- so I was suprised none of the 
> trio thought of him.

Finwitch (doesn't question):

Why should they? Sirius *told* them his brother was killed - on 
Voldemort's orders (as Sirius doesn't think Voldemort considered him 
worthy to be killed by Voldemort in person...). Why would they consider 
Sirius' dead brother to be in his place? Metamorphmagus maybe...

Kemper also suprised:
I think we all thought of Regulus because the note addressed the 'Dark Lord', not 'Lord Voldemort', not 'Tom'.  We, and Harry, know that the only people who call Lord Voldemort the 'Dark Lord' are Death Eaters. After that it was just a matter of going down our mental lists of Death Eaters, past and present.

Kemper, who can't wait to post on the Main tomorrow...

		
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 18 18:36:27 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:36:27 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <dbgocq+22be@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IJU00H9E6CJYEMB@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Belinda]:
| Exciting news for those using accessibility devices!
| Jo's site now has accessibility tools on the main site.
| 
| I am enjoying playing with the Sound Glossary myself, in the Site 
| Help. hehe
| 
| I would sincerely appreciate hearing from anyone who uses 
| such devices 
| to tell me how these tools might help you and what they do.

[Lee]:
Well, I'd like to answer that, but when I went to www.jkrowling.com I only
saw the link to Text Only and another link to the Lightmaker site.  There
was no visible button or link for accessability.

I'd be interested to know what others with screenreaders are seeing.  I am a
Window-Eyes user.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 18:39:22 2005
From: oreocookies_2000 at yahoo.com (Diane)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:39:22 -0000
Subject: finished my book
Message-ID: <dbgt0q+pgbu@eGroups.com>

 this were great this weekend the party i went toon friday at a local 
myer got there at 11p and was hardly any one there i was like 5th in 
line and the people doing the party were new at doing it so they 
passed everything out to everyone. his trivia was off of the times 
puzzle and a small card that myer printed up i had my book and was 
reading it my 1205. life was great i have a friend that went to a big 
party and was very unhappy. 
      i finished the book this morning and it was great to me thanks 
for listening every one have a great day.





From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 19:08:13 2005
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:08:13 -0000
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <0IJU00H9E6CJYEMB@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dbgumt+frdv@eGroups.com>


> [Lee]:
> Well, I'd like to answer that, but when I went to www.jkrowling.com 
I only
> saw the link to Text Only and another link to the Lightmaker site.  
There
> was no visible button or link for accessability.
> 
> I'd be interested to know what others with screenreaders are 
seeing.  I am a
> Window-Eyes user.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)


Well this is curious!  Very strange that the people it is intended 
for cannot find it!
The link is below the multi language options. Does that help?
and it does appear on the alternate addresses of dot org dot net 
etc.  Perhaps you are viewing a cached copy of the splash screen, 
where it only appeared today.  Have you tried an alternate address?
Belinda





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 19:07:44 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:07:44 -0000
Subject: To those who were on the Yahoo Messenger chat yesterday
Message-ID: <dbgum0+ujvr@eGroups.com>

I found it! The thing we thought was a sign of collective madness. 
Sorry I can't explain more because of Spoilers. Anyway, it's on page 
345 (Ch 16) on the Scholastic ediiton. And we were right... We're not 
crazy after all.

Juli





From bumbledore at comcast.net  Mon Jul 18 19:43:16 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:43:16 -0400
Subject: Alternative chat possiblity
References: <0IJU00114677V7X1@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <004301c58bd0$f1388a00$a846ac43@cauldron1>

Check out www.inspeak.com  its a chat program kinda like paltalk. Its in
beta, but we have been there for about 3 months now..

Good audio quality, and video and everything.. very nice.. create a room in
a catagory and tell us where its at and when it will be open and wala, I am
sure you will find people comming to it..

The audio is 10 times better than yahoo.. and the text is just as good as
any text.
and the rooms are MODERATED by the room owner.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at arrl.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Correction (was RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Conference Call for Any
Interested Parties)


> Oy! I made a slight goof on my message about the conference call.  My goof
> was in the date which I wrote as July 20.  It should be July 19.  Here's a
> reprint of the message with the correction.
>
> Hi All,
>
> Okay, here's what I intend to do.
>
> I'd like to invite whoever wants to discuss HBP to join me on a phone chat
> Tuesday, July 19, 7:15 P.M. EST.  I haven't finished the book yet, but
don't
> mind spoilers!! :-)
>
> This is not a toll-free call!  The conference server is, however, free so
I
> don't have to fill someone's pocket with galleons I don't have. :-)
>
> As far as an end time, well--we end when we end, so bring a butterbeer and
> cauldron cakes and relax and talk.
>
> Topics:
> What else...HBP. :-)  I thought we might, rather than hit it from
> Chapter-By-Chapter, take on each character and see the book from their
> perspectives and how they interact.  Of course, this isn't carved in stone
> or written in blood.  The most important thing is to relax and discuss,
and
> enjoy talking with other listers.
>
> The telephone number is:
> 213 213-6066
>
> The conference code will be:
> HOGWARTS (46492787)
>
> Any questions, write to me off list at:
> "n2fgc at arrl.net".
>
> Magically Yours,
>
> Lee :-)
>
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>
>
>
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>
> Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from
posts to which you're replying!
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>
>
>
>
>
>




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 19:55:28 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:55:28 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <dbgpps+mpm6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002701c58bd2$a656b320$0400a8c0@pensive>

Wonderful Sherry!
I'm anxious to hear from you! 
I instantly thought of you and the others on this group.
The site help options lists jaws and window eyes... do you use either 
of those?
Belinda

Sherry:

yes, I use JAWS, a screen reading program.  I'm excited to see what they've
done.





From phil at pcsgames.net  Mon Jul 18 20:06:59 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:06:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
References: <dbgumt+frdv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c58bd4$47cad550$6600a8c0@phil>

Belinda said,
> > [Lee]:
> > Well, I'd like to answer that, but when I went to www.jkrowling.com
> I only
> > saw the link to Text Only and another link to the Lightmaker site.
> There
> > was no visible button or link for accessability.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know what others with screenreaders are
> seeing.  I am a
> > Window-Eyes user.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lee :-)
>
>
> Well this is curious!  Very strange that the people it is intended
> for cannot find it!
> The link is below the multi language options. Does that help?
> and it does appear on the alternate addresses of dot org dot net
> etc.  Perhaps you are viewing a cached copy of the splash screen,
> where it only appeared today.  Have you tried an alternate address?
> Belinda

Now Phil:
Lee and others may need to install, Macromedia Flash.
I have JFW screenreader  6.2 and flash enabled and get the following flash
buttons to tab on and click:

J.K.Rowling
official site
mobile phone. click here to pick up the phone
Scrapbook
Diary -  Open Biography
Wizard of the month
Newspaper -  Open Rumours
paperclips - Open Frequently Asked Questions
Hair Band - question mark
Key  - open Fan sites
Newspaper -  Open Daily News
Cup - open Extra Stuff section
Gum Wrapper - Open rubbish bin
pen - open Links

I also hear the sound of the wind, a dog barking and peeves laughing, which
I don't get on the text only site.
Phill.




From smile33000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 17:19:14 2005
From: smile33000 at yahoo.com (Katie Kraase)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:19:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <dbgfum+boia@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050718171914.41613.qmail@web53004.mail.yahoo.com>

I went to a party at the local bookstore in town and
it went pretty well. They had these packets that had a
card that marked off activities. The lady said they
were for little kids so I didn't take one but then I
couldn't do anything so I took one anyway (I'm not
that old). It was all right but they ran out of things
to do at about 11:30 so people just stood all clumped
together waiting. The distibution went great they had
three vans outside for those who preordered split
according to last name. Then you gave them your name
and phone number and they gave you your book. I was
out by 12:05 and at home reading at 12:15...Then I
stayed up until 6:30 reading the whole thing. Luckily
I had nothing to do on Sat. so that was okay.

"smile33000"





From briggielockyer at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 18:20:13 2005
From: briggielockyer at yahoo.com (briggielockyer)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:20:13 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question/HBP
In-Reply-To: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbgrst+p02q@eGroups.com>


> But I have another question - JKR confirmed that the Order does 
indeed 
> use Patronuses to deliver messages -- why didn't they teach Harry 
how 
> to do that??? The main problem - particularly in the end of OOP 
was 
> that Harry hadn't a reliable source of communication at hand - 
(Rowling 
> also said that the mirror wouldn't have helped as much as Harry 
thought 
> it would have...) and I haven't got my hands on HBP yet, but...
> 
> Finwitch

I believe the reason that Harry was not told how to use his Patronus 
as a message is that he is not a member of the order.  He is too 
young, according to Molly, to be in the order.  They only allow 
wizards that are of age and not in school to be an actual member of 
the order.  

- Brigitte







From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Jul 18 19:20:39 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:20:39 -0400
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
References: <dbgumt+frdv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <048301c58bcd$ce886910$16e1e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

>> [Lee]:
>> Well, I'd like to answer that, but when I went to 
>> www.jkrowling.com  I only> saw the link to Text Only and
>> another link to the Lightmaker site. There was no visible 
>> button or link for accessability.
>>
>> I'd be interested to know what others with screenreaders 
>> are seeing.  I am a Window-Eyes user.

> Belinda:
> Well this is curious!  Very strange that the people it is intended
> for cannot find it!
> The link is below the multi language options. Does that help?
> and it does appear on the alternate addresses of dot org dot net
> etc.  Perhaps you are viewing a cached copy of the splash screen,
> where it only appeared today.  Have you tried an alternate address?


Mich Verrier now:
I am a Jaws user and I saw the link and I see no real diffrence. 
In short I don't see anything diffrent from the text version 
except that a movie plays for some reason but the link is there, 
but I really don't see any diffrence. Maybe it might help for 
someone on list to post the exact link to this accessible version 
of the site.  But quite frankly, I found the text version quite accessible. 

from Mich Verrier. 







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 22:35:46 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:35:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Marita
Message-ID: <20050718223546.54584.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>

*staggers in, wiping sweat from brow, dragging
streamers and balloons*

Anyone else find it hot in here? The icing is fairly
melting off the birthday cake!

Today's birthday honouree is Marita. Birthday owls can
be sent care of this list or directly to:
maritajan at yahoo.com

I hope your day has been magical and filled with fun,
food and good company.

Happy Birthday, Marita!

Sheryll the melting Birthday Elf

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From phil at pcsgames.net  Mon Jul 18 22:47:55 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:47:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
References: <dbgumt+frdv@eGroups.com> <048301c58bcd$ce886910$16e1e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <001b01c58bea$c52fcee0$6600a8c0@phil>

Mich Verrier now:
> I am a Jaws user and I saw the link and I see no real diffrence.
> In short I don't see anything diffrent from the text version
> except that a movie plays for some reason but the link is there,
> but I really don't see any diffrence. Maybe it might help for
> someone on list to post the exact link to this accessible version
> of the site.  But quite frankly, I found the text version quite
accessible.
>
> from Mich Verrier.

Now Phil:
With flash access to the site now you can dial the telephone:
Dial MAGIC or 62442
And then you get:
Macromedia Flash Movie Start
J.K.Rowling

Certificate of Appreciation

Awarded to
You
For dedicated exploration of the website.

In recognition of your achievement you have been awarded with some extra
special content.

Please see below for details.

Very early page of Philosopher's Stone written around 1991 and showing
plot-line that was abandoned. Would have changed everything!
Click here to view your extra special content!

J.K Rowling

Certificate of Appreciation

Certificate of Appreciation
close
site by lightmaker - new window
Macromedia Flash Movie end


Unfortunately the extra special content you get is still unaccessible  being
that it is not text but a picture of her handwriting.
Phil





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 22:56:32 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:56:32 -0000
Subject: Potter Party Pictures
Message-ID: <dbhc30+1ma4@eGroups.com>

Everyone who went to or hosted a party please show us your pictures! 
It would be wonderful to share the great time we all had!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****





From lorelei3dg at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 23:49:27 2005
From: lorelei3dg at yahoo.com (lorelei3dg)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:49:27 -0000
Subject: Allergic to Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <dbf8vf+h0j8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbhf67+ns26@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Emily" <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> Shortly after getting my grubby hands on a copy of HBP, I got itchy 
> hives on my fingers.  Did anyone else have this experience?
> 
> Emily
> who wonders if maybe Scholastic used bubotuber pus in the paper

Never hives, but for a couple of years (yes, years!) I'd have 
uncontrollable coughing fits every time I entered my hometown library. 
I'd have to know exactly what I wanted and run in, grab it and sign it 
out before I erupted. I suspect there was some kind of dust in there 
that set me off.

I hope you find an antidote - or a good pair of gloves - so you can 
read the book!!





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Mon Jul 18 23:23:54 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:23:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
References: <dbgumt+frdv@eGroups.com> <048301c58bcd$ce886910$16e1e2d1@michaelyxnei3t> <001b01c58bea$c52fcee0$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <019401c58bef$c54d0190$8e59e2d1@michaelyxnei3t>

> Mich Verrier now:
>> In short I don't see anything diffrent from the text version
>> except that a movie plays for some reason but the link is there,
>> but I really don't see any diffrence. <snip>

> Now Phil:
> With flash access to the site now you can dial the telephone:
> Dial MAGIC or 62442
> And then you get:
> Macromedia Flash Movie Start
> J.K.Rowling
> <snip>
> Unfortunately the extra special content you get is still 
> unaccessible being that it is not text but a picture of 
> her handwriting.


Mich Verrier writes:  OK, well that sounds pretty cool. I think 
that I might have the flash already installed because when I 
clicked on it it started playing that thing with the dog barking 
and the wind and all that stuff, but just in case I don't have it installed then where can I get it?  Many thanks. 

from Mich Verrier. 







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 03:45:56 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:45:56 -0000
Subject: To those who were on the Yahoo Messenger chat yesterday
In-Reply-To: <dbgum0+ujvr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbht1k+uo3p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at y...> wrote:
> I found it! The thing we thought was a sign of collective madness. 
> Sorry I can't explain more because of Spoilers. Anyway, it's on page 
> 345 (Ch 16) on the Scholastic ediiton. And we were right... We're 
not 
> crazy after all.
> 
> Juli


I knew we couldn't *all* be hallucinating. ;-)

KathyK





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 19 04:59:58 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:59:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <001b01c58bea$c52fcee0$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <0IJU0055SZ7OF3FF@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Interesting descriptions, Phil, and I have Shock installed, but don't see
any of that at all...just the link to the text site and the link to
Lightmaker.

Hmm----Perhaps I've been imperturbed? <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Sympathizing with the melting Birthday Elf.) :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 05:28:15 2005
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:28:15 -0000
Subject: Borders Potter Party-Do It Again?
In-Reply-To: <20050718171914.41613.qmail@web53004.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dbi31f+skqs@eGroups.com>

I went to a Borders Party..

It was okay...not much for adults.. I did however have fun speaking 
with all the fans!(I'm the only potterhead in my family so it was so 
nice to speak about it to others and getting responses other than blank 
stares)

It was hot and cramped so I went outside and actually met someone who 
lived in the same places I did growing up. (in Germany and England 
around the same time).

We talked about all our favorite Brit shows with special fond 
rememberances of Dr. Who, Father Ted, Are You Being Served, and Keeping 
up Appearances among them. Also, how the best Italian food we ever ate 
was in Germany.(at the same restaurant no less)

Was quite an uncanny experience; her mother is German, mine British 
strange that we still end up living just miles from each other after 
all these years. LOL

 I never waited in line much..just asked what number people were when 
they came out. My daughter (19 y.o.) waited in line and played Harry 
Potter 20 questions with the people her age around her.

Although I did read to some people in line--I read some Jean Shepard 
exerpts for them. ("In God We Trust all others Pay Cash" the book that 
was the inspiration for the movie, "Christmas Story" --the one where 
Ralphie shoots his eye out LOL...and from, "A Fist Full of Fig Newtons" 
also by the same author. It was so hot and there was a cold stone next 
store so I had to read the Ice cream story from that one.) I just began 
by reading them to my daughter then others began to gather. Us 280's to 
344's had a nice time. LOL  The stock on the humor shelf was seriously 
depleted at the end of the night. The clerk at the counter asked me if 
I wanted to order any Jean Shepard books too LOL..(I guess people 
before me had asked for them because there were none left on the shelf.)

I'd do it again it was fun..and there's only one more chance to do it 
again isn't there?  I may even dress up next time...I made some special 
shoes for bride of frankenstien a few years back...I could be madame 
maxime.LOL

Doddiemoemoe







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 06:14:21 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:14:21 -0000
Subject: Potter Parties
Message-ID: <dbi5nt+ls96@eGroups.com>

Well I guess this is the last chance to tell what I did on Friday. I 
didn't need to stand in line to get a book. But we went to 3 different 
parties in 3 different towns. We dressed up, of course. And the first 
town was a dud, only 400 people. SO we drove 40 miles to a town where 
they turned the whole place into Diagon Alley and there were tons of 
people there. Good butterbeer too! It was vanilla soda with 
butterscotch flavoring added. Costume contest winner was 2 real babies 
in a pot with leave hats like Mandrakes.
 We ended back in our hometown at a local bookstore. Lots of folks 
there at almost midnight. I saw 2 cute kids dress up as Dobby and 
Winky. They had a local magician and lots of stuff going on.

It was really great!!

I am 20 pages from the end of the book.  It is 2:00AM. Depressing. 
Interesting. Truely amazing!! I know we are going to start arguing over 
it all later today.

Tonks





From mich at ntl.sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 19 07:43:21 2005
From: mich at ntl.sympatico.ca (Mich Verrier)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:43:21 -0400
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
References: <0IJU0055SZ7OF3FF@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <05f401c58c35$8fc820e0$7ca223cf@michaelyxnei3t>

Lee:
> Interesting descriptions, Phil, and I have Shock installed, but 
> don't see any of that at all...just the link to the text site 
> and the link to Lightmaker.


Mich Verrier now: Yes I too have the flash enabled but I don't see 
any of the links that you say are there; all I hear is the thing 
with the dog barking and stuff, but I tried what you said hitting 
the home key and down arrow, and all jaws says is blank blank blank 
so I find it quite odd indeed. 

from Mich Verrier.







From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 17:45:27 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:45:27 -0000
Subject: I can't keep up!!!
Message-ID: <dbje7n+bmm0@eGroups.com>

Has anyone checked the main list this morning? there's been about 400 
messages, all pretty much saying the same thing. Wouldn't it be nice 
if people actually read the messages before starting a new thread? 
this way it'd be easier for all of us. If there are 30 threads about 
Snape, why can't they be joined? or about Sirius? or Dumbledore? I've 
always read every single message, and I hate repeting the same thing, 
so please pretty please, eveybody, let's join posts.

Thank You

Juli - whose brain is having a melt down.





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 19 17:50:24 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:50:24 -0700
Subject: interviews with JKR
In-Reply-To: <dbje7n+bmm0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006201c58c8a$57d883f0$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hi,

on the main list, there have been several references to current interviews
with JKR.  I find the Leaky Cauldron web site a real pain to navigate, just
because there is so much to wade through.  Same for Muggle net.  Could
anyone send me direct links to posted interviews, or copy them into a
message to me?  Or are they on her web site?

Thanks.

sherry




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 19 18:01:58 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:01:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] interviews with JKR
In-Reply-To: <006201c58c8a$57d883f0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <0IJV0007SZF0IAP5@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I second Sherry's request! :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-) 

[Sherry wrote]:
| 
| on the main list, there have been several references to 
| current interviews
| with JKR.  I find the Leaky Cauldron web site a real pain to 
| navigate, just
| because there is so much to wade through.  Same for Muggle net.  Could
| anyone send me direct links to posted interviews, or copy them into a
| message to me?  Or are they on her web site?
| 
| Thanks.
| 
| sherry

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 19 18:08:16 2005
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:08:16 -0000
Subject: interviews with JKR
In-Reply-To: <0IJV0007SZF0IAP5@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dbjfig+nkc4@eGroups.com>

Glad to help!  Here's Leaky's. I haven't looked at Mugglenet yet.

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview1.html

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-edinburgh2005part1.html








From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:55:16 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:55:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I can't keep up!!!
In-Reply-To: <dbje7n+bmm0@eGroups.com>
References: <dbje7n+bmm0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a27384005071911551e3387f2@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/19/05, jlnbtr <jlnbtr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone checked the main list this morning? there's been about 400

Yeah, I went 'whoa' (Keanu Reeves style) at the incoming.

> messages, all pretty much saying the same thing. Wouldn't it be nice
> if people actually read the messages before starting a new thread?

I suspect they hadn't realized someone else sent a nearly identical
message since they were all queued up (visible to mods but not to the
average reader).  Then you'd be asking the mods to consider who makes
the better message on the same topic and adding to the wait time,
which can compound the problem.

Though, it's like this on other lists, regardless of if a group was
temporarily closed or not.

Dina



From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 21:54:11 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:54:11 -0000
Subject: Chitty Chat Chat
Message-ID: <dbjsq3+10qdk@eGroups.com>

Anyone interested in chatting in main list chat? I know it is hard to 
post right now but if anyone wants to talk theories etc. I am hanging 
out over in chat for a bit.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 19 22:41:08 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:41:08 -0400
Subject: The Conference Call
Message-ID: <0IJW00JY7CC9KVO4@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

If anyone's interested, feel free to call:
213 213-6066

The conference code is:
HOGWARTS (46492787).

I know I said 7:15, but I got here early. <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From ExSlytherin at aol.com  Tue Jul 19 22:40:59 2005
From: ExSlytherin at aol.com (Amanda)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:40:59 -0000
Subject: Searching for Kneasy
Message-ID: <dbjvhr+opdc@eGroups.com>

Any older members (by older I don't mean age, I mean length of time on 
the board *grins*) remember Kneasy and know where he went?  

I remember he anounced he was leaving to join another board, and I'd 
love to track that other board down.

Cheers, Mandy 





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 19 22:46:12 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:46:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Searching for Kneasy
In-Reply-To: <dbjvhr+opdc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003001c58cb3$aa7f9610$0400a8c0@pensive>

Any older members (by older I don't mean age, I mean length of time on 
the board *grins*) remember Kneasy and know where he went?  

I remember he anounced he was leaving to join another board, and I'd 
love to track that other board down.

Cheers, Mandy 

Sherry now:

Ah yes, I have missed Kneasy's sharp and well thought out comments since
this morning.  i've missed him since he left, and it doesn't seem quite
right without him chiming in now.  i don't know where he is, but I wish he'd
come back here.  He could always add something new and thought provoking to
the discussion.

sherry




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 23:48:30 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:48:30 -0000
Subject: Searching for Kneasy
In-Reply-To: <dbjvhr+opdc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbk3ge+24lc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <ExSlytherin at a...> 
wrote:
> Any older members (by older I don't mean age, I mean length of time 
on 
> the board *grins*) remember Kneasy and know where he went?  
> 
> I remember he anounced he was leaving to join another board, and I'd 
> love to track that other board down.
> 
> Cheers, Mandy

Mandy, I remember Kneasy I think his real name's Barry Arrowsmith, so 
maybe you could search for him in the old archives, I think he left 
around christmas, probably in January, but I'm not sure.

Juli





From sparismarshall at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 23:52:46 2005
From: sparismarshall at hotmail.com (sparismarshall)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:52:46 -0000
Subject: Reading Groups
Message-ID: <dbk3oe+5dpm@eGroups.com>

Hi,

Anyone looking to have a HBP discussion group in the Boston area,
e-mail me at jaclyn.marshall at gmail.com. Thanks!







From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 00:50:33 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Conference Call
In-Reply-To: <0IJW00JY7CC9KVO4@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <20050720005033.41773.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>

I just got off the phone with Lee and I have giggled for the past hour and a half.  She is going to be on for a while more (until about 9:30) if anyone wants to call.  She is a real hoot!!!
 
moonmyyst

		
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From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 06:13:11 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:13:11 -0000
Subject: OoTP Question/HBP
In-Reply-To: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbkq1n+3ibv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "finwitch" <finwitch at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> > Andromeda now:
> > 
> >   Another agreement - I thought "Regulus" as soon as I read it --
> > seemed a pretty obvious possibility- so I was suprised none of 
the 
> > trio thought of him.
> 
> Finwitch:
> 
> Why should they? Sirius *told* them his brother was killed - on 
> Voldemort's orders (as Sirius doesn't think Voldemort considered 
him 
> worthy to be killed by Voldemort in person...). Why would they 
consider 
> Sirius' dead brother to be in his place? Metamorphmagus maybe...
> 
-snip - 

Ah, this was referring to something in HBP.  Sorry for the confusion.

-Andromeda





From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed Jul 20 07:45:24 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:45:24 +1000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <dbkq1n+3ibv@eGroups.com>
References: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>

My apologies to anybody who sees this more than once - I'm asking it 
quite widely.

As many people reading this will know I am currently studying to be a 

teacher - I'm in the third year of my fourth year course. I am coming 

under increasing pressure to specialise as a literacy teacher (I am 
also coming under pressure to specialise as a numeracy or science 
teacher, but in those cases, it's mostly just because relatively 
primary school teachers have specialist skills in those areas, and I 
really don't want to do them, just because I'm good at them - the 
literacy interests me most). Specialising in one way or another 
greatly increases my chances of working specifically in gifted 
education (especially as I have so far achieved First Class Honours 
in all the gifted related subjects).

Anyway - to my point. As part of my goal of possible eventual 
literacy specialisation, I have started collecting children's books 
across a range of areas. I've spent the last few days cataloguing my 
'teaching collection' of children's books and I have put up a list 
at:

http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/bookindex.html

I hope my eventual collection will be much larger than this - but 
it's already reasonably sizeable. It consists mostly of fiction, with 

some non-fiction and not every book on the list is actually 
technically a children's book - it also includes some books I think 
at least some children would enjoy reading, even if they are 
technically for adults.

I would like to ask as many people as possible to please look over 
this list and if you can think of a book that you think should be on 
it, that isn't, please let me know. If there's a book from your own 
childhood, you think really should be available to children now, 
*please* let me know about it. If there's a book you would want your 
child exposed to, *please* let me know about it. If there's a book 
you think every teacher should have available to give to children to 
read, *please* let me know.

I still have a year and a half to collect these books before I'm 
actually teaching.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 09:44:38 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:44:38 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Amazon and UPS
In-Reply-To: <dbe4pe+86m0@eGroups.com>
References: <4e2ac80050716141775dfed1e@mail.gmail.com>
	 <dbe4pe+86m0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050720024450dd336b@mail.gmail.com>

This sucks! Are you done listening to HBP? I really liked it, though I
didn't like the end... Well, I'll wait till book 7 before I start
ranting...
Kathrin

On 7/17/05, mynti_pernworld <jazmyn at pacificpuma.com> wrote:
> I never got my copy from Amazon and bought the audio version from the
> local bookstore.


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 09:54:21 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:54:21 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thanks and Confessions of a Fan
In-Reply-To: <dbf81s+f644@eGroups.com>
References: <dbf81s+f644@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac800507200254140e453f@mail.gmail.com>

Gosh! Everyone seems to be upset with him and I don't even remember
why - that's a clear sign I have to go back and read all books again
so that I'm done by the time I have to go buy the German edition (yes,
I have read all books in English AND German!)...
Kathrin *bangingherheadonthetableforforgttingsignificantpartsofOotP*

On 7/18/05, stardancerofas <glcherry at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> To all those of like mind, and you know who you are ;) thanks for the
> quick replies!
> 
> I have to confess, after the heartbreak of OoTP (I still can't read
> the whole thing again), I was bound and determined NOT to go out at
> midnight for a copy of HBP. I wasn't going to do it,(stamps foot) NO!
> I would not go to bed crying my eyes out again. You see for OoTP I had
> just lost my little dog, AND my Godfather one month apart. I couldn't
> take any more loss.
> 
> You guessed it. I went. I don't know what happened! One minute I'm
> eating peanut butter and bananas, the next I've got my wand in my back
> pocket, a gryffindor patch on my cape, and am literally flying out the
> door. Sigh, so much for my legendary self control.
> 
> I can't say I'm disappointed in the "Death" this time. After OoTP, I
> wanted to kill (insert persons name if you have finished reading here)
> myself.
> 
> Now, begins the long wait for the last book, which I'm hoping will be
> soon.
> 
> Once again, all you thinking the same as I, thanks! :)
> 
> Lorrie


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 10:02:02 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:02:02 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: How DEPRESSING! (convaluted spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <dbeg7q+r5tl@eGroups.com>
References: <dbeb97+f5k9@eGroups.com> <dbeg7q+r5tl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050720030244691cb8@mail.gmail.com>

He will! I'm determined to believe he will. You know what the series
is about, right? I only wonder who will persuade him other way...
Kathrin

On 7/17/05, Karen Barker <karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I've just finished it and I'm devistated.  Apart from the obvious 
> (which I thought I'd be OK about if it was that person but have 
> discovered that I'm anything but!) I'm really upset about the thing 
> that Harry right at the end says he won't do (that Hermione says she 
> knew he was going to say).  I cannot believe that that is the case 
> and feel as bereft about that as much as the obvious.  
> 
> Anyone else feel likewise?  
> 
> Karen


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From timregan at microsoft.com  Wed Jul 20 10:17:42 2005
From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:17:42 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
Message-ID: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02169D6D@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Shaun asked:
>>> I've spent the last few days cataloguing my 'teaching collection' of children's books and I have put up a list at http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/bookindex.html [...] if you can think of a book that you think should be on it, that isn't, please let me know <<<

Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones (especially because of the amazing Miyazaki version)
Artemis Fowl by Eoin Colfer (spelling?)
The Dark is Rising series by Susan Cooper
The Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett (adapted for the screen by our man Alfonso Cuar?n)
The rest of the Philip Pullman books

The Arthur Ransome books are dated, but none the less important.

You don't mention the age range? But you might want to include some holocaust stuff, e.g.
The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank
(Secrets by Jacqueline Wilson is a great 'retelling' of Frank's diary)
Maus a Survivors Tale: My Father Bleeds History 
Maus II : A Survivor's Tale: And Here My Troubles Began by Art Spiegelman are great graphical novels on the holocaust. Well sort of on the holocaust, really on a man's relationship with his father and the memory of his mother. But they would not work for young kids at all.

What about poetry?

Cheers,

Dumbledad.

PS Glad you've got "The Magic Pudding" in there. What a great book.



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 13:07:58 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:07:58 -0000
Subject: JKR.com Accessibility enabled
In-Reply-To: <05f401c58c35$8fc820e0$7ca223cf@michaelyxnei3t>
Message-ID: <dblibe+fm77@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Mich Verrier" <mich at n...> 
wrote:
> Lee:
> > Interesting descriptions, Phil, and I have Shock installed, but 
> > don't see any of that at all...just the link to the text site 
> > and the link to Lightmaker.
> 
> 
> Mich Verrier now: Yes I too have the flash enabled but I don't see 
> any of the links that you say are there; all I hear is the thing 
> with the dog barking and stuff, but I tried what you said hitting 
> the home key and down arrow, and all jaws says is blank blank 
blank 
> so I find it quite odd indeed. 

Tonks:
I assume that you folks are talking about somesort of accessibility 
program you are using that lets you *see* the site. I know that in 
order to view the regular site, I have to turn off the MSN 
accelerator, or put it on a lower setting. If I don't I get just a 
blank page with the little square on the top that takes you to the 
lightmaker site.  So if you have some sort of accelerator on, or 
something like it, you have to turn it off, or down.  I don't 
understand the program that you may be using, but does it have 
different setting levels?  If so, try turning it down to load 
slower.  Good luck.

Tonks_op              





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 20 13:10:49 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:10:49 -0700
Subject: I. Hate. Children!
References: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02169D6D@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <01d101c58d2c$7324dbc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

And not even the little actual children
I normally hate.  I mean children in
the sense of idiots who can't think,
whom must spoil everything they can and
then sit there and whine when they're
yelled at.

At a fanfiction list I belong to (Dina,
you know which one) they are spoiling
the book left, right, center.  No
space, no warnings, just right out
there.  In the subject line, in the
texts...

Now I've read the book, read it AGES
ago.  But I still have the common
respect and courtesy NOT to post
spoilers where my fellow fans who are
not so graced can see them.

But these IDIOTS don't like/get the
idea of spoiler space and whine and
bitch and moan when we point out that
it's needed.

THEY DISGUST ME!

You guys know me, you know I'm selfish,
spoiled, bratty and basically think
only for myself.  So imagine how bad it
is that *I* am disgusted by them.

Ugh.

*bangs head*

Just...had to rant.

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina


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From dreamflower68 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 14:53:09 2005
From: dreamflower68 at yahoo.com (lorien forrest)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: How DEPRESSING! (convaluted spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac80050720030244691cb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050720145310.48354.qmail@web52214.mail.yahoo.com>

I agree - I think it was said in haste. It's obvious to me he needs help that only XYZ (doing the thing he says he won't do) can provide. In the same vein and a few pages before that, is another thing he says he can't do anymore, but I hope and think "other people" are just as stubborn as he is. I'd love to hear what everyone thinks.
Lorien

Kathrin P <kathrin.p at gmail.com> wrote:
He will! I'm determined to believe he will. You know what the series
is about, right? I only wonder who will persuade him other way...
Kathrin

On 7/17/05, Karen Barker <karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I've just finished it and I'm devistated.  Apart from the obvious 
> (which I thought I'd be OK about if it was that person but have 
> discovered that I'm anything but!) I'm really upset about the thing 
> that Harry right at the end says he won't do (that Hermione says she 
> knew he was going to say).  I cannot believe that that is the case 
> and feel as bereft about that as much as the obvious.  
> 
> Anyone else feel likewise?  
> 
> Karen


-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 15:55:42 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:55:42 -0400
Subject: And HBP spoiler humour Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I. Hate. Children!
In-Reply-To: <01d101c58d2c$7324dbc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
References: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02169D6D@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
	 <01d101c58d2c$7324dbc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <1a27384005072008551ad39cdd@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/20/05, Saitaina <saitaina at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> the book left, right, center.  No
> space, no warnings, just right out
> there.  In the subject line, in the
> texts...

I was both surprised and yet not so by the lack of... taking time to
think about what they're posting and how.

Heh, and just to mock all the HBP spoilers (careful, link contains big
spoilers):
http://www.livejournal.com/community/wtf_inc/1141079.html

Photo manips galore.


> You guys know me, you know I'm selfish,
> spoiled, bratty and basically think
> only for myself.  So imagine how bad it

Should I disagree with this? ;-p

Dina,
who hasn't read HBP in full yet



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 20 16:21:10 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:21:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <0IJX00D0LPEY3GS7@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Interesting book list.  Quick note: I saw "Adventures Of The Wishing Chair"
listed twice??

Okay, you should have the Lloyd Alexander books (The Book Of Three, The
Black Cauldron, Etc.) in there for sure, and Diane Duane has a few other
titles in the wizard series.

Also, E. E. Konigsburg's "The Mixed-Up Files Of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler"
was a funny book and a good read.

Another wonderful book that I can't remember the author for is "Henry Reed's
Baby-Sitting Service."  And another, "The Operation That Happened To Rupert
Piper," was definitely something some young readers would love.

Edward Ormondroyd's books are wonderful: "David And The Phoenix," "Time At
The Top" And"All In Good Time."  In fact, Art and I just re-read them last
year.

There's another book tfor which the name of the author eludes me...actually,
it's two books:
"Gone-Away Lake" and "Return To Gone-Away."

Then, there's ... Well, I could go on and on, but I'll shut up for now.
<Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 20 16:21:36 2005
From: lysandrabellargus at yahoo.co.uk (Sandra)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:21:36 -0000
Subject: I can't keep up!!!
In-Reply-To: <dbje7n+bmm0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbltmg+o2av@eGroups.com>

Juli:
> Has anyone checked the main list this morning? there's been about 
400 
> messages, all pretty much saying the same thing. Wouldn't it be
nice 
> if people actually read the messages before starting a new thread? 
> this way it'd be easier for all of us.
snip
>I've always read every single message, and I hate repeting the same 
thing, so please pretty please, eveybody, let's join posts.

I absolutly agree, I have just downlowded, copied all the messages,
in order to read them offline - no flatrate : (
but now I am not so sure, if I will read them at all.
I have allready suspected that they all, more or less, state the 
same. 
I guess it just takes a bit time (and self-restriction & discipline) 
until real threads emerge, don't know.

Sandra

But then again I was soooo relieved, that most people thought the
same 
about 

S

P

O

I

L

E

R



Dumbledore and Snape, because I thought it was just being me, hoping 
and trying to believe in the good.

Sandra 
- now having to face the more then 400 messages - oh my!





From KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net  Wed Jul 20 17:19:53 2005
From: KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net (Gary Sapp & Karen J.S.)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:19:53 -0000
Subject: OT Battlestar Galactica
In-Reply-To: <dbf7qa+jlah@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbm13p+4g8e@eGroups.com>

This is a late answer but the new episodes will be shown on Friday and
repeated the following monday.  They may have missed the first one but
I am sure they will be repeated eventually.  I had to wait to get to
see them all but they did show them several times and I got caught up.

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Diana" <dianasdolls at y...> wrote:
> My DH missed the season opener of "Battlestar Galactica" on July 15th, 
> Friday.  He's really bummed about missing it.
> 
> Diana L.





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 17:37:13 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <20050720173713.72574.qmail@web51608.mail.yahoo.com>

Shaun:
Asked about book recommendations for kid lit.
 
Kemper adds:
 
all ages--
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll
Coraline by Neil Gaiman (a bit dark)
The Emperor's New Clothes by Hans Christian Andersen
The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstien (and his books of poetry by favorite of his poems/rhymes is 'Smart')
The Wizard of Oz series by L Frank Baum

Treasure Island (or anything by Robert L Stevenson)
Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak
 
middle to older--
Bartimaeus Trilogy by Jonathan Stroud
Fahrenheit 451 (or anything by Ray Bradbury esp, Dandelion Wine and Something Wicked This Way Comes)
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

Lord of the Flies by William Golding
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Color Purple (for older youth) by Alice Walker
To Kill a Mocking Bird by Harper Lee
Youth In Revolt (for older youth only 15/16+) by C.D. Payne (Dictionary required)
 
Kemper


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From gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx  Wed Jul 20 17:38:02 2005
From: gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx (Gabriela)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:38:02 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbm25q+r9j1@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
>snip

> Anyway - to my point. As part of my goal of possible eventual 
> literacy specialisation, I have started collecting children's 
books 
> across a range of areas. I've spent the last few days cataloguing 
my 
> 'teaching collection' of children's books and I have put up a list 
> at:
> 
> http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/bookindex.html
> 
> I hope my eventual collection will be much larger than this - but 
> it's already reasonably sizeable. It consists mostly of fiction, 
with 
> 
> some non-fiction and not every book on the list is actually 
> technically a children's book - it also includes some books I 
think 
> at least some children would enjoy reading, even if they are 
> technically for adults.
> 
>> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia

Hi Shaun,
 I thought of A Series of Unfortunate Events by Lemony Snicket, I 
find them funny and entertaining. 
 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Matilda, and James and the Giant 
Peach by Roald Dahl. 
Sabriel, Lirael, and Abhorsen by Garth Nix, great series but a 
little dark. There is a new book in the series but I can't remember 
the title, I think it has the word Abhorsen in it.
Hope this helps! Best regards.

Gabriela from Mexico 





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 20 15:59:19 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:59:19 -0700
Subject: And HBP spoiler humour Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I. Hate. Children!
References: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02169D6D@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com> <01d101c58d2c$7324dbc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> <1a27384005072008551ad39cdd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <020301c58d43$fdae21e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Dina wrote:

<I was both surprised and yet not so by
the lack of... taking time to
think about what they're posting and
how.>

So I was expecting too much to think
they could be mature, responsible
individuals?

<Should I disagree with this? ;-p>

Of course not.  Just pointing out how
bad it was if I was disgusted.  I
wonder what our list mommy and mod for
that list are doing though, twiddling
their thumbs?  I haven't even gotten
yelled at yet.

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

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From morianna at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 20 17:19:58 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:19:58 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] public editing of Wikipedia
References: <dbltmg+o2av@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004801c58d4f$44a9f910$210110ac@MoriLaptop>

wikipedia is an open, freely editable encylopedia.  Anyone can edit entries.  So far, their info on HBP is decent.  Sadly, some editors obviously haven't been reading the same book as we have.  Can we get some other Potterheads to come over and help add content?

Prof Mori.


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 20 18:08:25 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:08:25 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <005201c58d56$06d9ad40$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hi,

Here's a few of my personal favorites, either as a kid or even now!


Anne of green gables
by L. M. Montgomery
I'd say all ages on those

little house series
by Laura Ingalls wilder
all ages. 

witch of blackbird pond
Elizabeth George Speare
maybe middle school age level, like 11 and up.  Historical fiction

black stallion
Walter farley
this is a whole series

princess diaries
Meg Cabot
Probably about 11 and up too.  Hilarious. the whole series is!

lioness quartet
Tamora Pierce
About a girl who wants to become a knight and how she accomplishes this goal

The velveteen rabbit
Unfortunately, i don't know the author of this, but it's one of the greatest
stories of all time, in my opinion anyway.

secret garden

the railway children
E. Nesbitt

Johnny Tremain

phantom toll booth

the school story
Andrew Clemens

follow my leader
James Garfield
Not sure if this is available anymore.  It's the story of a boy who goes
blind at age 11, learns braille, the use of a white cane and other
techniques of functioning with blindness.  then due to special family
circumstances, he is allowed to get a guide dog, even though he is well
below the age limit.  it's the story that inspired me when I was a little
girl and made me say, I'm going to get one of those someday!
 
a girl of the Limberlost
Gene Stratton Porter

Old Yeller

mary Poppins

Dr. Doolittle


Sherry

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaun Hately
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:45 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list


My apologies to anybody who sees this more than once - I'm asking it 
quite widely.

As many people reading this will know I am currently studying to be a 

teacher - I'm in the third year of my fourth year course. I am coming 

under increasing pressure to specialise as a literacy teacher (I am 
also coming under pressure to specialise as a numeracy or science 
teacher, but in those cases, it's mostly just because relatively 
primary school teachers have specialist skills in those areas, and I 
really don't want to do them, just because I'm good at them - the 
literacy interests me most). Specialising in one way or another 
greatly increases my chances of working specifically in gifted 
education (especially as I have so far achieved First Class Honours 
in all the gifted related subjects).

Anyway - to my point. As part of my goal of possible eventual 
literacy specialisation, I have started collecting children's books 
across a range of areas. I've spent the last few days cataloguing my 
'teaching collection' of children's books and I have put up a list 
at:

http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/bookindex.html

I hope my eventual collection will be much larger than this - but 
it's already reasonably sizeable. It consists mostly of fiction, with 

some non-fiction and not every book on the list is actually 
technically a children's book - it also includes some books I think 
at least some children would enjoy reading, even if they are 
technically for adults.

I would like to ask as many people as possible to please look over 
this list and if you can think of a book that you think should be on 
it, that isn't, please let me know. If there's a book from your own 
childhood, you think really should be available to children now, 
*please* let me know about it. If there's a book you would want your 
child exposed to, *please* let me know about it. If there's a book 
you think every teacher should have available to give to children to 
read, *please* let me know.

I still have a year and a half to collect these books before I'm 
actually teaching.


Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia



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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 18:26:37 2005
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:26:37 -0400
Subject: And HBP spoiler humour Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I. Hate. Children!
In-Reply-To: <020301c58d43$fdae21e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
References: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02169D6D@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
	 <01d101c58d2c$7324dbc0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
	 <1a27384005072008551ad39cdd@mail.gmail.com>
	 <020301c58d43$fdae21e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <1a27384005072011263ef3ee5a@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/20/05, Saitaina <saitaina at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> So I was expecting too much to think
> they could be mature, responsible
> individuals?

Yep.


> wonder what our list mommy and mod for
> that list are doing though, twiddling
> their thumbs?  I haven't even gotten
> yelled at yet.

I believe she recently posted an admin message.

Dina



From milcg at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 18:44:08 2005
From: milcg at yahoo.com (Mil)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:44:08 -0000
Subject: Grieving and anxious...
Message-ID: <dbm61o+vfvc@eGroups.com>



Even though, I had pre- ordered it, and had it sent to my home... I 
was unfortunate enough to learn a month before saturday, my brother 
in law was to get married on July 16th, in a three hour ride away 
from home, which meant I would not get my hands on my very own copy 
of HBP, until monday, for I was forced to stay the whole weekend at 
the "new" family's home...

As if this was not enough, I've only had a couple hours time,between 
my job, my household chores and my inconsiderate friends who had the 
nerve to call in home last night and my husband who keeps talking to 
me between pages (and I know he's just been trying to get on my 
nerves, since he's not that much of a PotterFan and is amused by my 
anxiety of reading a "kids-book"), to actually be able to sit back 
and READ, so I've only managed to get through the first 156 pages... 

This message is just to share my frustration and anxiety... I just 
can't wait to go home, lock myself up in the study and READ!!!

Sorry for the lame post...

MIL- who has been a (lurking-) member of HPFGU main list for a 
couple of years now, and is very depressed she can't go in for she 
does NOT want to read ANY spoilers whatsoever... And is even more 
surprised at herself she actually made her FIRST-EVER post in the 
middle of the day from her office computer... 








From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 19:48:41 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:48:41 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] public editing of Wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <004801c58d4f$44a9f910$210110ac@MoriLaptop>
References: <dbltmg+o2av@eGroups.com>
	 <004801c58d4f$44a9f910$210110ac@MoriLaptop>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005072012481264d94@mail.gmail.com>

Morianna <morianna at mindspring.com> wrote:
> wikipedia is an open, freely editable encylopedia.  Anyone can edit entries.
>  So far, their info on HBP is decent.  Sadly, some editors obviously haven't
> been reading the same book as we have.  Can we get some other Potterheads to
> come over and help add content?
> 
> Prof Mori.

Which part do you mean? The Plot summary or the chapter by chapter summary?

-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
http://book-a-holic.blogspot.com for my book addiction
http://justitia.blogspirit.com for the German/law student part in me



From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 20:19:32 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:19:32 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
References: <dbgb5n+5bmi@eGroups.com> <dbkq1n+3ibv@eGroups.com>
	 <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050720131943a9d197@mail.gmail.com>

Shaun: asked for book recommendations (kiddie lit)

Kathrin:
I second The Princess Diaries (Meg Cabot) and the Artemis Fowl books (Eoin 
Colfer - sure about the spelling ;-) ).

Other great books:
Susan Cooper - The Dark Is Rising series
Catherine Clement - Theo's Voyage
Enid Blyton's series (epecially for girls)
the other Lois Lowry books
 I might think of other books as the hours pass and can send you the titles 
later on :-)
 Kathrin


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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 21:06:00 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:06:00 -0000
Subject: Grieving and anxious...
In-Reply-To: <dbm61o+vfvc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbmebo+grv8@eGroups.com>

Message 28275 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Mil" <milcg at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Even though, I had pre- ordered it, and had it sent to my home... 
I was unfortunate enough to learn a month before saturday, my 
brother in law was to get married on July 16th, in a three hour ride 
away from home, which meant I would not get my hands on my very own 
copy of HBP, until monday, for I was forced to stay the whole 
weekend at the "new" family's home...
> 
> As if this was not enough, I've only had a couple hours 
time,between my job, my household chores and my inconsiderate 
friends who had the nerve to call in home last night and my husband 
who keeps talking to me between pages (and I know he's just been 
trying to get on my nerves, since he's not that much of a PotterFan 
and is amused by my anxiety of reading a "kids-book"), to actually 
be able to sit back and READ, so I've only managed to get through 
the first 156 pages... 
> 
> This message is just to share my frustration and anxiety... I just 
> can't wait to go home, lock myself up in the study and READ!!!
> 
> Sorry for the lame post...
> 
> MIL  >Snip<

*****\(@@)/*****

Unfortunately you couldn't do anything about the wedding because 
those are usually planned so far in advance... As for inconsiderate 
friends, unless I had an ongoing emergency that I NEEDED to answer 
the phone when it rang, I just let it ring. Nothing on this earth 
says we actually have to answer them! (I hate phones and feel we 
shouldn't be slaves to them) 

When I was reading, I had several cats who felt that I should be 
letting them assist and insisted periodically on climbing onto the 
book itself! One great place for minimal interruptions is the 
bathroom and a locked door (or the tub and a locked door)! 

Now Hubby has decided he wants to read the book so now I can't talk 
to him about it until he has..... I did finish the book in about 7 
hours and am on my second read. I have been dragging it to work and 
pulling it out when I eat lunch or take a break. Also I broke down 
and got the audio CD and have it in the car as I am driving to and 
from work.

You will certainly enjoy this book and feel very accomplished once 
you have finished it in spite of all the interruptions!

Keep reading!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/***** 






From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 22:51:33 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:51:33 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DE8DB4.20001.9A3FA3F@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbmkhl+jmmo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...>
wrote:
> ...
> 
> ... I am coming under increasing pressure to specialise as a 
> literacy teacher ...
> 
> A... As part of my goal of possible eventual 
> literacy specialisation, I have started collecting children's books 
> across a range of areas. I've spent the last few days cataloguing my 
> 'teaching collection' of children's books and I have put up a list 
> at:
> 
> http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/bookindex.html
> 
> I hope my eventual collection will be much larger than this - but 
> it's already reasonably sizeable. ...
> 
> I would like to ask as many people as possible to please look over 
> this list and if you can think of a book that you think should be on 
> it, that isn't, please let me know. ...
> 
> I still have a year and a half to collect these books before I'm 
> actually teaching.
> 
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately 

bboyminn:

Shaun, I'm surprised after our recent conversations that you didn't
include "Ender's Game" and "Ender's Shadow" By Orson Scott Card. These
books were not created as children's books even though they are both
about children, but they are very popular with young readers. They are
also very deep and poignant books, that have a strong moral center
combined with humor and courage. Well, you've read them, so you know
what they are like.

I found "Ender's Game' more exciting, but "Ender's Shadow" touched me
on a much deeper level, though both books were excellent. Like Harry
Potter, Ender and Bean, in a sense, have become real to me. I love
them and I want to know more about them. Consequently, just a couple
of days ago, I ordered the complete series with the exception of the
final book of the 'Shadow' series; I'll wait for the paperback on the
last one. As, I'm sure you know the last six books (three in each
series) are about Ender and Bean as adults, so they are less likely to
appeal to children, but the first two books, are certainly an
extremely captivating and emotionally moving read.

I also liked the "Artimes Fowl" series by Eoin Colfer. These are fun,
funny books with captivating stories and characters. A little on the
light-hearted side, definitely geared toward young readers, but still
with solid captivating stories and a strong subliminal moral message.

The book I am currently MOST looking forward to is the second in the
"Inheritance Trilogy" by the very young Christopher Paolini. The first
being "Eragon" which is a fast-paced action-pack book rich with
characters and story. The second in the series is "Eldest" which is
already on order and due to be released near the end of August.

I also found "The Bartimaeus Trilogy" by Jonathan Stroud very
captivating. I wouldn't call it flawless writing, but it is very good,
and does create somewhat annoying but none the less captivating
characters and story lines, and presents a completely different take
on magic compared to Harry Potter. Book 1: "The Amulet of Samarkand",
Book 2: "The Golem's Eye", Book 3: "Ptolemy's Gate" which is due out
the first part of 2006. The books have plenty of humor, but less
likable characters. Although, I think that's intentional; much like
Atremis Fowl, Nathaniel/John Mandrake is not initially meant to be a
well liked character. 

Someone else mentioned " A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony
Snicket, I've always had the feeling that because there are so many
volumes of these books, that they were like the modern equivalent of
Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew. True, those are all time classic books, but
I wonder about the substance of them, as in, do they have any? I'm
willing to be enlightened by group opinons on the books.

Thanks to Shaun and everyone else for all the great book recommendations.

Steve/bboyminn





From morianna at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 20 23:24:41 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:24:41 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] public editing of Wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <4e2ac8005072012481264d94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801c58d82$34dc12b0$220110ac@MoriMain>

Hey K-
 
Oops-Should have been more specific.  While the BIG main pages are
more-or-less posted, some entries are still either underdeveloped or
blank.  For example, the entry on Eileen Prince Snape and Tobias Snape
were non-existent until early this morning.  They still seem
under-written.  Other new characters and locations/events, etc. still
need work.  
 
Back to editing
Mori
 
-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathrin P
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:49 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] public editing of Wikipedia
 
Morianna <morianna at mindspring.com> wrote:
> wikipedia is an open, freely editable encylopedia.  Anyone can edit
entries.
>  So far, their info on HBP is decent.  Sadly, some editors obviously
haven't
> been reading the same book as we have.  Can we get some other
Potterheads to
> come over and help add content?
> 
> Prof Mori.

Which part do you mean? The Plot summary or the chapter by chapter
summary?

-- 
Kathrin
~~~~~
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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Wed Jul 20 23:26:13 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:26:13 -0000
Subject: Book list
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Shaun asked about children's books.

These are ones that stuck in my own memory from childhood for one 
reason or another:

The Case of the Silver Egg, Desmond Skirrow, thriller;
Bullwhip Griffin, Sid Fleischman, historical fiction;
Earthfasts, William Mayne, fantasy (Mayne was recently convicted of 
child abuse and I know that has put some people off his work - will 
that matter in your case?);
Midnite, Randolph Stow, historical fiction (and Australian);
The Midnight Folk; The Box of Delights, John Masefield, fantasy;
Kim, Rudyard Kipling, thriller (his finest by general agreement and 
one of my favourite books ever);
Double Star, Robert A Heinlein, science fiction;
Any Biggles book, Capt WE Johns, thrillers - I know it's crap 
writing and totally politically incorrect but I lapped them up so 
others might - same for Tarzan, ER Burroughs;
Five Children and It; The Phoenix and the Carpet; The Amulet, E 
Nesbit, childrens (fantasy) classics.

More recently:
Anything by Jacqueline Wilson, general;
Anything by Shirley Hughes, for very young children.
The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Eric Carle, for the very young.

HTH

David





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 23:37:29 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:37:29 -0000
Subject: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
Message-ID: <dbmn7p+snke@eGroups.com>

I'm sure you all remember when Harry and Ron were in the Weasley
Kitchen over Christmas holiday 'peeling sprouts' with a knife when
Fred and George come in and tease them about not being able to use
magic to do it. (Am Ed, HB, Chapter 16 -"A Very Frosty Christmas", pg 325)

So, in Brit-Speak, what is a sprout? 

Because in USA-speak, it is a small newly sprouted shoot of a soybean
or alphalfa seed. It is very small, and mostly a pale root with just a
tiny leaf or two at the head. Because these are very small, they would
be next to impossible to peel, although, even if you did peel them, I
can't imagine what you would be peeling. We throw them into salads and
eat them whole; rich in vitamins.

So... Sprouts?

Any help?

Steve/bboyminn







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 21 00:08:07 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:08:07 -0400
Subject: Happy Squeeing! I Got It!
Message-ID: <0IJY00749B174AU6@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

And a day earlier than Amazon said I would...SQUEEEE!  So, now Art and I can
sit in the audible company of Jim Dale and finish the book in style. :-)

Lee :-)
(Hugging her CDs.)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 00:09:47 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Squeeing! I Got It!
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YYYAAAAYYYY!!!!!!
 
Pop the popcorn and pop some corks (of butterbeer of course!!)!!!!
 
moonmyyst

"(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at arrl.net> wrote:
And a day earlier than Amazon said I would...SQUEEEE!  So, now Art and I can
sit in the audible company of Jim Dale and finish the book in style. :-)

Lee :-)
(Hugging her CDs.)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul 21 00:12:17 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:12:17 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
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On 20 Jul 2005 at 11:17, Tim Regan wrote:

> The Arthur Ransome books are dated, but none the less important.
> 
> You don't mention the age range? But you might want to include some
> holocaust stuff, e.g. The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank (Secrets
> by Jacqueline Wilson is a great 'retelling' of Frank's diary) Maus a
> Survivors Tale: My Father Bleeds History Maus II : A Survivor's Tale:
> And Here My Troubles Began by Art Spiegelman are great graphical
> novels on the holocaust. Well sort of on the holocaust, really on a
> man's relationship with his father and the memory of his mother. But
> they would not work for young kids at all.
> 
> What about poetry?

Thanks for the suggestions.

Age range - any. I have no idea what age range I may wind up teaching 
yet - potentially it could be anywhere from 5 to 15. And poetry is 
great as well. I'd forgotten about Arthur Ransome completely - I 
loved those as a kid.

On 20 Jul 2005 at 12:21, (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the  wrote:

> Interesting book list.  Quick note: I saw "Adventures Of The 
> Wishing Chair" listed twice??

Very different editions - one is an unedited edition, the other is 
edited for modern political correctness, but is wonderfully 
illustrated.

And thanks for the other suggestions, they are all going on the list.

On 20 Jul 2005 at 11:08, Sherry Gomes wrote:

> follow my leader
> James Garfield
> Not sure if this is available anymore.  It's the story of a boy who
> goes blind at age 11, learns braille, the use of a white cane and
> other techniques of functioning with blindness.  then due to 
> special family circumstances, he is allowed to get a guide dog, 
> even though he is well below the age limit.  it's the story that 
> inspired me when I was a little girl and made me say, I'm going to 
> get one of those someday!

Even if it's not available, I still want names - I collect books, I 
can often track down out of print books reasonably easily - and 
something like this is definitely something I want in the collection.

On 20 Jul 2005 at 22:51, Steve wrote:

> bboyminn:
> 
> Shaun, I'm surprised after our recent conversations that you didn't
> include "Ender's Game" and "Ender's Shadow" By Orson Scott Card. 
> These books were not created as children's books even though they 
> are both about children, but they are very popular with young 
> readers. They are also very deep and poignant books, that have a 
> strong moral center combined with humor and courage. Well, you've 
> read them, so you know what they are like.

The list, at present, is only of books I currently have in my 
possession, and at the moment I don't own a copy of either Ender's 
Game or Ender's Shadow. Because I use these books so much in my work 
with gifted kids, I'm always giving away my copies of them!

But they are definitely going onto the lists of books to buy again.

On 20 Jul 2005 at 23:26, davewitley wrote:

> Any Biggles book, Capt WE Johns,
> thrillers - I know it's crap writing and totally politically 
> incorrect but I lapped them up so others might

I own about 50 Biggles books, but they're not on the list because 
these are not editions that I am going to typically lend to kids. I 
might lend them to a kid who'd read the others and wanted to continue 
reading because so many are out of print and they can't read them any 
other way. But they're not on the general list. I think I will get 
some newer editions though and stick them on the list, because I 
loved them as well.

Thank you to everyone who is making suggestions.



Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 21 00:13:29 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:13:29 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Squeeing! I Got It!
In-Reply-To: <0IJY00749B174AU6@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <00f101c58d89$06c97870$0400a8c0@pensive>

That's what I did Friday night, hugged my Cd's!  The only problem is that a
box of CD's doesn't have that wonderful book aroma!

Sherry


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is the Healing Force)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:08 PM
To: HPOtChat
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Squeeing! I Got It!


And a day earlier than Amazon said I would...SQUEEEE!  So, now Art and I can
sit in the audible company of Jim Dale and finish the book in style. :-)

Lee :-)
(Hugging her CDs.)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.



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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul 21 00:15:36 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:15:36 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
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On 20 Jul 2005 at 23:37, Steve wrote:

> Because in USA-speak, it is a small newly sprouted shoot of a soybean
> or alphalfa seed. It is very small, and mostly a pale root with just a
> tiny leaf or two at the head. Because these are very small, they would
> be next to impossible to peel, although, even if you did peel them, I
> can't imagine what you would be peeling. We throw them into salads and
> eat them whole; rich in vitamins.
> 
> So... Sprouts?

Brussel Sprouts - tiny little cabbage like things.

http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0059-0502-0911-5346_SM.jpg

Generally regarded by children as hideous (though I rather liked 
them).

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 21 00:20:58 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:20:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <42DF7501.1759.79AA9B@localhost>
Message-ID: <0IJY00ESEBMMVTIC@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Just another thought relating to escaping from Nazi hands, there was a book
called "Escape to Warsaw" which was very good...about some children trying
to do just that in hopes of finding their parents.  Sorry, I don't know the
author, but it was good, probably for 11 or 12 and up or a mature young
reader.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 21 00:32:16 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:32:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Squeeing! I Got It!
In-Reply-To: <20050721000947.64599.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0IJY00B31C5GMBH3@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Moonmyyst cheered with me]:
| YYYAAAAYYYY!!!!!!
|  
| Pop the popcorn and pop some corks (of butterbeer of course!!)!!!!

[Lee, still grinning like a Cheshire cat]:
Yes, indeedy! And perhaps I'll have to turn on the cooking muse and make
some pumpkin pasties, too...or cauldron cakes or something. :-)

Hmmm--if I can't find butterbeer, will Saranac Black-&-Tan do? <BEG>

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From joseph at kirtland.com  Thu Jul 21 00:35:26 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:35:26 -0000
Subject: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <42DF75C8.17699.7CB2CA@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbmqke+3bek@eGroups.com>

Brussel Sprouts are regarded by some adults as hideous as well!  :-)

Speaking of BritSpeak, my UK Bloomsbury edition of the HBP arrived 
at my home in Utah today.  I will read this book for my second read.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2005 at 23:37, Steve wrote:

> 
> Brussel Sprouts - tiny little cabbage like things.
> 
> http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0059-0502-0911-
5346_SM.jpg
> 
> Generally regarded by children as hideous (though I rather liked 
> them).
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia





From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 00:38:33 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:38:33 -0000
Subject: * finished my book *
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HI!

Which Mejiers was you at ?

I was the 1st one in line at the store on Illinois

in Ft Wayne, IND !

Gail in IND


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<oreocookies_2000 at y...> wrote:
>  this were great this weekend the party i went toon friday at a 
local 
> myer got there at 11p and was hardly any one there i was like 5th in 
> line and the people doing the party were new at doing it so they 
> passed everything out to everyone. his trivia was off of the times 
> puzzle and a small card that myer printed up i had my book and was 
> reading it my 1205. life was great i have a friend that went to a 
big 
> party and was very unhappy. 
>       i finished the book this morning and it was great to me thanks 
> for listening every one have a great day.





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 00:39:33 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:39:33 -0000
Subject: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
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Message 28287 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2005 at 23:37, Steve wrote:
> 
> Snip<....they would be next to impossible to peel, although, even 
if you did peel them, I
> > can't imagine what you would be peeling. We throw them into 
salads and eat them whole; rich in vitamins.
> > 
> > So... Sprouts?
>Shaun Hately wrote: 
> Brussel Sprouts - tiny little cabbage like things.
> 
> http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0059-0502-0911-
5346_SM.jpg
> 
> Generally regarded by children as hideous (though I rather liked 
> them).
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately 
>Snip<

Not a highly regarded vegatable but having peeled the "little 
cabbages" it made me laugh when I read it.... They give me 
gas......Hubby likes them though and I actually grew them in the 
garden once and got a bumper crop of all things!

Dudemom_2000 (who takes all the knitting comments in the new book 
personally!)

*****\(@@)/****





From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul 21 00:51:32 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:51:32 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbmqs5+romr@eGroups.com>
References: <42DF75C8.17699.7CB2CA@localhost>
Message-ID: <42DF7E34.15642.9D960A@localhost>

One of the funniest things I ever saw...

I was a newly minted prefect and we had a whole bunch of boys new to 
the school - start of a new school year. Some senior boys were 
distributed around the junior boys tables during meals for the first 
week or so while they were getting used to how things worked.

On Sunday we had a roast dinner. And there was one kid at my table 
who didn't want to eat his brussel sprouts. I decided to exert some 
authority and told him that unless he ate at least one Brussel 
Sprout, he couldn't have desert.

Most condiments were removed on Sundays to stop us smothering our 
roast dinner in tomato sauce (we smothered everything - except 
possibly ice cream - in sauce). The only things besides salt and 
pepper on the table was hot English mustard. And I sat there and 
watched as this kid carefully coated his entire brussel sprout in a 
layer of hot English mustard.

Then he placed the entire sprout - I suppose about the size of a golf 
ball, coated in hot English mustard in his mouth and tried to swallow 
it hole.

The noise he made was... impressive... the sprout didn't go down, it 
just hung around at the back of his throat until I thought he was 
choking. At that point - as he fell down on the floor drumming his 
heels, I tried to take action, but a teacher arrived, pulled him up 
and hit him on the back to dislodge it.

I got into so much trouble. First of all, I really didn't have the 
authority to force him to eat a brussel sprout, but nobody would have 
really worried about that. What got me in trouble was later in the 
infirmary when the Matron wanted to know what had happened - so I 
described to her what he'd done.

The end of the conversation was something like this:

"So you sat there and watched him cover his brussel sprout in a thick 
layer of mustard, knowing what he was going to do... why didn't you 
stop him?"

"I wanted to see what would happen."

Not the best answer, I could have given, I have to say. The adults 
were not very impressed with it.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 21 00:55:49 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:55:49 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
References: <42DF75C8.17699.7CB2CA@localhost> <42DF7E34.15642.9D960A@localhost>
Message-ID: <033901c58d8e$f07689e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Shaun wrote:

<"I wanted to see what would happen.">

*snickers*  I've used that line many a
time.

Mum: Saitaina, why did you put orange
juice in the coffee maker
Me: I wanted to see what would happen.

Mum: Saitaina, Why did you put the
silverware in the microwave?
Me: I wanted to see what would happen.

So on and so forth throughout my life.
Excepting the times of course when my
awnser was "I wanted to see how it
worked/was made of".

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 01:02:51 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:02:51 -0000
Subject: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <42DF7E34.15642.9D960A@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbms7r+t9mc@eGroups.com>

Message 28293 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...> wrote:
> One of the funniest things I ever saw...
> 
> I was a newly minted prefect and we had a whole bunch of boys new 
to the school - start of a new school year. Some senior boys were 
> distributed around the junior boys tables during meals for the 
first week or so while they were getting used to how things worked.
> 
> On Sunday we had a roast dinner. And there was one kid at my table 
> who didn't want to eat his brussel sprouts. I decided to exert 
some authority and told him that unless he ate at least one Brussel 
> Sprout, he couldn't have desert.
> 
> Most condiments were removed on Sundays to stop us smothering our 
> roast dinner in tomato sauce (we smothered everything - except 
> possibly ice cream - in sauce). The only things besides salt and 
> pepper on the table was hot English mustard. And I sat there and 
> watched as this kid carefully coated his entire brussel sprout in 
a layer of hot English mustard.
> 
> Then he placed the entire sprout - I suppose about the size of a 
golf ball, coated in hot English mustard in his mouth and tried to 
swallow it whole.
> 
> The noise he made was... impressive... the sprout didn't go down, 
it just hung around at the back of his throat until I thought he was 
> choking. At that point - as he fell down on the floor drumming his 
> heels, I tried to take action, but a teacher arrived, pulled him 
up and hit him on the back to dislodge it.
> 
> I got into so much trouble. First of all, I really didn't have the 
> authority to force him to eat a brussel sprout, but nobody would 
have really worried about that. What got me in trouble was later in 
the infirmary when the Matron wanted to know what had happened - so 
I described to her what he'd done.
> 
> The end of the conversation was something like this:
> 
> "So you sat there and watched him cover his brussel sprout in a 
thick layer of mustard, knowing what he was going to do... why 
didn't you stop him?"
> 
> "I wanted to see what would happen."
> 
> Not the best answer, I could have given, I have to say. The adults 
> were not very impressed with it.
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia

*****\(@@)/*****

I am still laughing..... This is right up there with a friend who 
went to a Japanese restaurant with me and decided he could pop the 
whole bit of wasabi right in his mouth because it was green and just 
couldn't be that hot! (I believe my Kirin came out of my nose at 
that point!) Kids do the darndest things!

Dudemom_2000 (who is still planning her Snitch sweater and thinks 
JKR put that and the knitting pattern comment in just for her)

*****\(@@)/*****





From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 01:08:57 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: BritSpeak: Peeling Sprouts? Really ....Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbmqs5+romr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050721010857.5638.qmail@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

dudemom_2000  wrote:

Not a highly regarded vegatable but having peeled the "little 
cabbages" it made me laugh when I read it.... They give me 
gas......Hubby likes them though and I actually grew them in the 
garden once and got a bumper crop of all things!

Dudemom_2000 (who takes all the knitting comments in the new book 
personally!)
 
 
Lynn:
 
I throw some Good Season's Italian dressing mix into the water when I boil them and they are great.  I also buy the frozen kind where they are already peeled, makes life much easier.  LOL
 
 


 

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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 01:43:20 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Since Steve asked... [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book list
In-Reply-To: <dbmkhl+jmmo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050721014320.63143.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>

bboyminn wrote:

...
"Ender's Game" and "Ender's Shadow" By Orson Scott Card. 
...
I also liked the "Artimes Fowl" series by Eoin Colfer. 
...

The book I am currently MOST looking forward to is the second in the
"Inheritance Trilogy" by the very young Christopher Paolini. 
...
I also found "The Bartimaeus Trilogy" by Jonathan Stroud very
captivating. I wouldn't call it flawless writing, but it is very good
...
Someone else mentioned " A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony
Snicket, I've always had the feeling that because there are so many
volumes of these books, that they were like the modern equivalent of
Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew. True, those are all time classic books, but I wonder about the substance of them, as in, do they have any? I'm willing to be enlightened by group opinons on the books.

Kemper now:
I forgot about Ender's Game, though I haven't read any else in that particular series, I did like the character Bean and will probably pick it up due to so many recommendations.  Ender's Game is the shit when it comes to Sci-Fi.  Sci/Fi channel should buy the rights and let loose.
 
Steve, are you saying Paolini is better than Stroud?  I agree with you on so many things, but this...? 
 
To Steve and anyone else considering Lemony Snicket.  Don't.  It is a series of boring ennui.  One might wonder if it is exceeding what is necessary or natural even superfluous to use 'boring' and 'ennui' in the same sentence.  Hmm... not how it was used here.
 
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 21 03:15:59 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:15:59 -0700
Subject: latest interviews
In-Reply-To: <0IJX00D0LPEY3GS7@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <013101c58da2$84d18870$0400a8c0@pensive>

Hi again,

There's mention on the main list of more of the interviews from JKR with the
Leaky cauldron and muggle Net.  Could someone be wonderful and send the
direct links to the interviews or the text of the interviews?  Thank you
very much!  as i said yesterday, both those sites are very cumbersome and
tedious to wade through with a screen reader.

Sherry




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 03:36:34 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:36:34 -0000
Subject: latest interviews
In-Reply-To: <013101c58da2$84d18870$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbn582+r2dq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> There's mention on the main list of more of the interviews from 
JKR with the
> Leaky cauldron and muggle Net.  Could someone be wonderful and 
send the
> direct links to the interviews or the text of the interviews?  
Thank you
> very much!  as i said yesterday, both those sites are very 
cumbersome and
> tedious to wade through with a screen reader.
> 
> Sherry

Sherry, here're the links:

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml
http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview2.shtml

These are from mugglenet, I tried to log on TLC, but it just didn't 
work, don't ask me why.

Hope they help

Juli





From joseph at kirtland.com  Thu Jul 21 03:36:16 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:36:16 -0000
Subject: latest interviews
In-Reply-To: <013101c58da2$84d18870$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbn57g+7cec@eGroups.com>

I'll post the links here, since there are several people that can 
benefit from them.

Report One:  http://www.mugglenet.com/emscotland.shtml

Report Two:  http://www.mugglenet.com/emscotland2.shtml

Interview One:  http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml

Interview Two:  http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview2.shtml


If your screenreaders still have difficulty, perhaps permission can 
be granted from Matt at Mugglenet to post the reports and interviews 
in straight text.

Joe





--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> There's mention on the main list of more of the interviews from 
JKR with the
> Leaky cauldron and muggle Net.  Could someone be wonderful and 
send the
> direct links to the interviews or the text of the interviews?  
Thank you
> very much!  as i said yesterday, both those sites are very 
cumbersome and
> tedious to wade through with a screen reader.
> 
> Sherry






From bumbledore at comcast.net  Thu Jul 21 03:50:41 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:50:41 -0400
Subject: Since Steve asked... [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book list
References: <20050721014320.63143.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003301c58da7$5d361f10$a846ac43@cauldron1>


Agreed Kemper.. A friend of mine gave me the first saga, of "inheratance"
just one weekend before HBP, and I read the entire book in just under 5
hours. Glad the next one is comming out next month, as I intend to get it
too.
2 years for HP:7.. I might be retired by then!




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kemper mentor" <kempermentor at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: Since Steve asked... [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book list


> bboyminn wrote:
>
> ...
> "Ender's Game" and "Ender's Shadow" By Orson Scott Card.
> ...
> I also liked the "Artimes Fowl" series by Eoin Colfer.
> ...
>
> The book I am currently MOST looking forward to is the second in the
> "Inheritance Trilogy" by the very young Christopher Paolini.
> ...
> I also found "The Bartimaeus Trilogy" by Jonathan Stroud very
> captivating. I wouldn't call it flawless writing, but it is very good
> ...
> Someone else mentioned " A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony
> Snicket, I've always had the feeling that because there are so many
> volumes of these books, that they were like the modern equivalent of
> Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew. True, those are all time classic books, but I
wonder about the substance of them, as in, do they have any? I'm willing to
be enlightened by group opinons on the books.
>
> Kemper now:
> I forgot about Ender's Game, though I haven't read any else in that
particular series, I did like the character Bean and will probably pick it
up due to so many recommendations.  Ender's Game is the shit when it comes
to Sci-Fi.  Sci/Fi channel should buy the rights and let loose.
>
> Steve, are you saying Paolini is better than Stroud?  I agree with you on
so many things, but this...?
>
> To Steve and anyone else considering Lemony Snicket.  Don't.  It is a
series of boring ennui.  One might wonder if it is exceeding what is
necessary or natural even superfluous to use 'boring' and 'ennui' in the
same sentence.  Hmm... not how it was used here.
>
> Kemper
>
>
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 21 04:02:42 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:02:42 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: latest interviews
In-Reply-To: <dbn57g+7cec@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <014901c58da9$0c5f5190$0400a8c0@pensive>

thanks a bunch.  There's no problem reading the interviews.  It's just that
sites like those two are very cluttered, with many, many links, many lines
of text.  When you consider that we use only keyboard commands to get
through a page, arrow keys, tab and a couple others, web pages with dozens
of things on them can be exceedingly tedious.  I will often not bother to
find something, if it isn't something I really need to read or buy or
whatever.  I really appreciate all on this list who are so helpful to send
direct links, and other useful help.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bento
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:36 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: latest interviews


I'll post the links here, since there are several people that can 
benefit from them.

Report One:  http://www.mugglenet.com/emscotland.shtml

Report Two:  http://www.mugglenet.com/emscotland2.shtml

Interview One:  http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml

Interview Two:  http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview2.shtml


If your screenreaders still have difficulty, perhaps permission can 
be granted from Matt at Mugglenet to post the reports and interviews 
in straight text.

Joe





--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> There's mention on the main list of more of the interviews from 
JKR with the
> Leaky cauldron and muggle Net.  Could someone be wonderful and 
send the
> direct links to the interviews or the text of the interviews?  
Thank you
> very much!  as i said yesterday, both those sites are very 
cumbersome and
> tedious to wade through with a screen reader.
> 
> Sherry





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From IAmLordCassandra at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 05:00:03 2005
From: IAmLordCassandra at aol.com (IAmLordCassandra at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:00:03 EDT
Subject: Mugglenet HBP countdown
Message-ID: <127.60879579.301085d3@aol.com>

Hey, 
 
I added the HBP countdown to my desktop and now I can't figure out how to  
take it off.  Can anyone help me? 
 
~Cassie~ 


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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 08:53:05 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:53:05 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <0IJY00ESEBMMVTIC@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <42DF7501.1759.79AA9B@localhost>
	 <0IJY00ESEBMMVTIC@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005072101537719a4@mail.gmail.com>

I completely forgot the three books on the 2nd WW by Judith Kerr and the 
serie on Ireland by Joan Lingard (even for kids who don't know much about 
Ireland it's a great series, if you ask me). 
Kathrin


-- 
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~~~~~
check out:
http://plain-me.blogspot.com for the latest news on me
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From timregan at microsoft.com  Thu Jul 21 09:18:45 2005
From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:18:45 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
Message-ID: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB0216A237@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Shaun added:
>>> Age range - any. <<<

Then do consider (as others have suggested) adult books that are enjoyed
by children, e.g. "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime" by
Mark Haddon. This proved so popular among kids that the publishers
released a special version without the naughty 'f' word and the naughty
'c' word.

My twelve year old daughter currently loves the Louise Rennison
"Confessions of Georgia Nicolson" books like:

"Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging"; 
"Dancing in My Nuddy-Pants"; 
"Then He Ate My Boy Entrancers"; & 
"Knocked Out by My Nunga-Nungas".

They have really funny glossaries.

As to poetry, I agree Shel Siverstone is great for the younger kids. For
the older ones try "The Rattle Bag : An Anthology of Poetry" by Ted
Hughes and Seamus Heaney. 

You could also browse this list:
http://kids.nypl.org/reading/recommended2.cfm?ListID=60 

Was "Because of Winn Dixie" by Kate DiCamillo on your list? It's a good
one.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.



From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Thu Jul 21 12:08:15 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:08:15 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Grieving and anxious...
In-Reply-To: <dbm61o+vfvc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPMEEBCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

MIL said


Sorry for the lame post...

MIL- who has been a (lurking-) member of HPFGU main list for a
couple of years now, and is very depressed she can't go in for she
does NOT want to read ANY spoilers whatsoever... And is even more
surprised at herself she actually made her FIRST-EVER post in the
middle of the day from her office computer...

now me (storm)

that's not a lame post. And I can believe you made the post from work ..
what a terrible set of circumstances. My sympathy.

storm
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From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul 21 12:48:15 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:48:15 +1000
Subject: New explosions in London
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPMEEBCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
References: <dbm61o+vfvc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42E0262F.16126.32DC4F3@localhost>

Early reports - I'm hoping this isn't as bad as it's sounding - but 
people might want to turn the news on.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 21 13:36:52 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:36:52 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB0216A237@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <003301c58df9$41cffcd0$0400a8c0@pensive>

oh that reminds me.  What about Dr. Seus?  Any of them.  The cat in the hat,
Green Eggs and Ham, One fish two fish... they are all very funny and easy
reading.

And the Red wall series by Brian Jacques.  my best friends three boys
ranging in age from 11 to 15 all adore those books.  Those and The tale of
Despereaux,  by Kate DeCamillo.

I'm a member of audible.com, and i've purchased and downloaded as many so
called kids books as I have grown up books.  sometimes even reveling in
books I'd always heard of as a kid but never had access to back then.

Sherry




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 21 14:30:05 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:30:05 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New explosions in London
In-Reply-To: <42E0262F.16126.32DC4F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <0IJZ00BS5EXUMJM8@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I just don't understand people who can have such hate in them that they can
so coldly take innocent life or cause such injury and heartache.

My love and prayers to the good people of the UK!

Lee
(Heavy-Hearted)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 21 14:54:46 2005
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:54:46 -0400
Subject: Mugglenet HBP countdown
References: <1121949478.429.2028.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c58e04$304fd9c0$875479a5@leeannlaptop>

I added the HBP countdown to my desktop and now I can't figure out how to
take it off.  Can anyone help me?

~Cassie~

Leeann says:
when I move my mouse over it, it becomes framed and there is an "x" in the 
upper right corner. I just clicked on that and it went away. but don't count 
on this being good advice, I don't really have good luck with such things.
Good Luck! 




From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Thu Jul 21 15:22:07 2005
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:22:07 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New explosions in London
In-Reply-To: <42E0262F.16126.32DC4F3@localhost>
References: <dbm61o+vfvc@eGroups.com> <42E0262F.16126.32DC4F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <42DFBD9F.9010306@ntlworld.com>


>Early reports - I'm hoping this isn't as bad as it's sounding - but 
>people might want to turn the news on.
>
>Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
>Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
>
>  
>

 From what the BBC are saying it sounds like what the police call 
'nuisance bombing'. The 'bombs' were made from detnators and were set of 
to cause disruption rather than death or injury.

K



From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Thu Jul 21 16:41:23 2005
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:41:23 -0000
Subject: Wizard Jigsaw
Message-ID: <dboj7j+107br@eGroups.com>

Well, not really, but it immediately made me think of the way things 
work in the WW. 

http://www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/hara/fly.swf

Enjoy!
MsTattersall







From amis917 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 21 16:55:46 2005
From: amis917 at hotmail.com (amis917)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:55:46 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <003301c58df9$41cffcd0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbok2i+fe9n@eGroups.com>

I really have a ton of suggestions, but I like so many books that I 
can't remember them! Oh well...here's what I've come up with so far. 
I'm really bad with authors, but I'm sure you can figure them out :)
Most of the books are 10-13 age range. That's where I've had most of 
my teaching experience. 

Bridge to Teribithia

Tuck Everlasting

The shaddow children series is excellent. I got turned onto it when I 
was student teaching in fifth grade (around age 11). The author's 
last name is Haddix. There are five or six books so far I think. I 
can only remember three of the titles - Among the Hidden (the first 
one) and Among the Barons (the fourth one) Among the Brave (the 
newest one - due out in paperback in August). It's about the US in 
the "future" and they are put under population control where families 
can have only one kid. Faimlies end up having more, and these extra 
kids have to hide (in the shadows). It's really interesting, 
exciting, and would be great for discussion.


Any of the Fudge books. They're by Judy Blume. They're alittle 
younger in reading level, but are really funny. Kids usually love 
them. They are also good to read aloud from. 

The Sisterhood of the Traveleling Pants by Ann Brashares. It was just 
made into a movie this summmer, which prompted me to buy the book. 
It's a good story, but I havn't seen the movie.

In response to some other posts:

Dumbledad:
My twelve year old daughter currently loves the Louise Rennison
"Confessions of Georgia Nicolson" books

Amie now:
Those are hilarious! I read one for a university class assignment. 
There's alot of sexual stuff in there, which makes some parents 
uncomfortable. I think they're great fun though.

Kemper:
To Steve and anyone else considering Lemony Snicket. Don't. It is a 
series of boring ennui. One might wonder if it is exceeding what is 
necessary or natural even superfluous to use 'boring' and 'ennui' in 
the same sentence. Hmm... not how it was used here.

Amie:
I completely agree! I'm glad I'm not alone. I tried REALLY hard to 
read them because the kids just think they're great. It was an awful 
experience.  I couldn't make it through the second chapter of the 
first book.


Well I could go on forever, but I have to stop myself. I hope this 
helped! :)

~Amie, who is so overwhelmed by the number of posts on the main list -
 I'm not even going to try to read them.
 









From bumbledore at comcast.net  Thu Jul 21 17:08:24 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:08:24 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Mugglenet HBP countdown
References: <1121949478.429.2028.m20@yahoogroups.com> <007a01c58e04$304fd9c0$875479a5@leeannlaptop>
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Go to your "ADD/remove programs" option in your start up menu, on the
Console option.
You can remove it there.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leeann McCullough" <libtax10375 at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:54 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Mugglenet HBP countdown


> I added the HBP countdown to my desktop and now I can't figure out how to
> take it off.  Can anyone help me?
>
> ~Cassie~
>
> Leeann says:
> when I move my mouse over it, it becomes framed and there is an "x" in the
> upper right corner. I just clicked on that and it went away. but don't
count
> on this being good advice, I don't really have good luck with such things.
> Good Luck!
>
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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 18:16:25 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:25 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <0IJY00ESEBMMVTIC@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dboopp+oc3q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> Just another thought relating to escaping from Nazi hands, there 
was a book
> called "Escape to Warsaw" which was very good

Another brilliant Holocaust book is "The Secret Room" by Corrie Ten 
Boom about a family who hid Jews in their house in Holland during 
the war.  I read it when I was about 12 and it was riviting.

Some others of my favourites were:

White Fang - Jack London
The Last of the Mohicans - James Fenimore Cooper
Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
Black Beauty - Anna Sewell
The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgeson Burnett
Foxy and the Badgers - John Montgommery
Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
Peter Pan - JM Barrie

Karen













From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 18:26:15 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:26:15 -0000
Subject: New explosions in London
In-Reply-To: <42E0262F.16126.32DC4F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbopc7+fmi0@eGroups.com>

It's not as bad as it sounds, but it could have been.  It seems to be 
essentially a carbon copy of two weeks ago (3 bombs on tubes and 1 on 
a bus) but it would appear that only the detonators exploded not the 
actual explosives themselves.  The police seem to have retrieved the 
rucksacks and will be comparing the explosives in them to the stuff 
they've found in the 'bomb factory' they discovered in Leeds from the 
last lot.  The tube stations involved were Oval, Warren Street and 
Shepherd's Bush, and the bus was in Hackney Road in Shoreditch.

It would appear that two suspects were chased from the Warren Street 
Tune and the Oval Tube, the first one into University College Hospital 
which was evacuated as far as possible.  They spoke to the brother of 
a patient who is in there still being treated after the last bombs and 
he said his brother is starting to find it mildly amusing as 
though 'they're' following him around, which made me laugh!

Karen

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> 
wrote:
> Early reports - I'm hoping this isn't as bad as it's sounding - but 
> people might want to turn the news on.
> 
> Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
> Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
> (ISTJ)       | drednort at a... | ICQ: 6898200 
> "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
> facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
> uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
> need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
> Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia





From milcg at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 18:42:42 2005
From: milcg at yahoo.com (Mil)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:42:42 -0000
Subject: Grieving and anxious...
In-Reply-To: <dbmebo+grv8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dboqb2+p3oq@eGroups.com>

dudemom:
--snip--

  As for inconsiderate friends, unless I had an ongoing emergency 
that I NEEDED to answer the phone when it rang, I just let it ring. 
Nothing on this earth says we actually have to answer them! (I hate 
phones and feel we shouldn't be slaves to them) 

Again Mil: 

I think i did'nt express myself correctly (my english sometimes gets 
a little rusty :P )... I meant my friends (Sandy and huband) came 
over to visit me at home... as in dropped in just to say Hi... and 
though I do love them very much and we always like to keep in close 
touch... I just couldn't wait for them to leave, unfortunatly they 
didn't... hehe... oh well

dudemom: 
> When I was reading, I had several cats who felt that I should be 
> letting them assist and insisted periodically on climbing onto the 
> book itself! One great place for minimal interruptions is the 
> bathroom and a locked door (or the tub and a locked door)! 

again me:
Great tip!... Thanks!

dudemom:
--snip--
I have been dragging it to work and pulling it out when I eat lunch 
or take a break. Also I broke down and got the audio CD and have it 
in the car as I am driving to and from work.

Yet again me:
I just can't convince myself in bringing the book along with me... I 
know that if I do, I'll end up reading the whole thing and won't get 
any work done... I'd feel too guilty... The audio CD, I don't have.. 
but am seriously considering in buying it... 

dudemom:
> You will certainly enjoy this book and feel very accomplished once 
> you have finished it in spite of all the interruptions!
> 
> Keep reading!

storm:

--snip--
>My sympathy.
>storm

Me:
Thank you both, so much for your sympathy... hopefully I will finish 
the book tonight and if something yet again comes up i guess I'll 
just have to take my wand out and say: Reducto! :D

MIL-- Who also sends her best wishes and prayers for those in the UK.







From milcg at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 18:53:05 2005
From: milcg at yahoo.com (Mil)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:53:05 -0000
Subject: Happy Squeeing! I Got It!
In-Reply-To: <0IJY00B31C5GMBH3@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dboquh+b269@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> [Lee, still grinning like a Cheshire cat]:
--snip--
> Hmmm--if I can't find butterbeer, will Saranac Black-&-Tan do? <BEG>
> 
> Lee :-)

Mil here:

Definitly will do... Can I come?... Sounds perfectly delightful... 
... It might take me a while to get there though... hehe (I live in 
Mexico...)

Mil- Thinking she should have pre-ordered the audio CD's as well...





From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 19:14:49 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:14:49 -0000
Subject: JKR interview (mugglenet & leaky)
Message-ID: <dbos79+g8on@eGroups.com>

Have just been over to Mugglenet and read part one and two (of three) 
of their interview with Jo.  Don't go there if you don't want spoilers, 
but she has shed some light on things that maybe should have been 
obvious (but not necessarily to me, because I've spend the last 30 
minutes going 'Oh yeah')
Anyway, that woman has a riotous sense of humour and seems to have a 
real respect for internet HP.  Secretly I think she gets all her plots 
from our fanfic (but don't tell her I said so!)  She pointed out that 
she had read somewhere that ... oh I nearly said who ... but a certain 
person and a certain person got together and they do in HBP - she was 
astounded, but concluded that if she looked hard enough, the entire 7 
book plot is written there somewhere - yeah right.  (Am being sarcastic 
here, but doesn't always come off in the written word!)
Anyway, just thought I would advise you to go and have a read (after 
you've read HBP) - very entertaining.

Sarah xx





From department.of.mysteries at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 20:23:04 2005
From: department.of.mysteries at gmail.com (Sarah Gipp)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:23:04 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
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Some of my suggestions, although I'm sure many have been suggested before:

Around the World in Eighty Days, Jules Verne
Treasure Island, Robert Lewis Stevenson
Kidnapped, Robert Lewis Stevenson
The Pushcart War, Jean Merrill
Wizard's Hall, Jane Yolen (I believe JKR has been accused of plagiarizing 
this. I like the magical theory.)
The Pit Dragon trilogy, Jane Yolen (starts with Dragon's Blood, I think.)
The Enchanted Forest Chronicles, Patricia C. Wrede
The Phantom Tollbooth, Norton Juster
The Chronicles of Chrestomanci, Diana Wynne Jones (Witch Week is my 
favorite.)
My Side of the Mountain, Jean Craighead George
The Wayside School series, Louis Sachar
Holes, Louis Sachar
One Hundred and One Dalmatians, Dodie Smith (at the very least you can have 
fun with book/movie comparisons)
The Chronicles of Narnia, C.S. Lewis
Four Children and It (and sequels), E. Nesbitt
Watership Down, Richard Adams (Okay, yes, talking rabbits, but it's more 
adult than you'd think if you haven't read it. Lovethisbook.)
Nearly anything by Bruce Coville (BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO SCIENCE FICTION ON 
YOUR LIST!), though I would particularly recommend the My Teacher Is An 
Alien series, which I read in third grade and is set in sixth-eighth grade 
for the characters. My absolute favorite by him, however, has to be Jeremy 
Thatcher, Dragon Hatcher. I also like his "The Ghost..." series (The Ghost 
Wore Gray, the Ghost in the Big Brass Bed, etc...) Bruce Coville has also 
edited treasuries of fantasy/science fiction/horror stories for kids which I 
would highly recommend, although the majority of the stories aren't his 
work.
For less nerdy, more *normal* children you might try Beverly Cleary's books.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some series or book that I will go LSKDHGH HOW COULD 
I NOT INCLUDE THAT? Also, I'm not really sure as to age groups for a lot of 
these - they're basically what I loved and reread a lot as a kid that I 
still like now. (I also read Babysitters Club, Goosebumps, and Animorphs. 
Note their conspicuous absence.) Most of this is not suited to very young 
children, and I really wouldn't suggest, say, Bruce Coville's Book of 
Nightmares for any child who can't deal with, um, nightmares. I will say 
that most of these books aren't unnecessarily violent or gory, and a good 
chunk of them are my comfort books.

Look into the Whole Story series if you're going to include some of the 
classics - when I was younger I read their version of Around the World in 
Eighty Days and loved it - it's not abridged or anything, there are just 
little side notes explaining some of the background history and very nice 
illustrations.

A note on A Series of Unfortunate Events - I think they're better-written 
than Artemis Fowl, although I've only read the first of that series. They're 
not Great Literature, but I like them because they've got an evil sense of 
humor. But that's just me.

A friend has also suggested:
Circle of Magic, Tamora Pierce (I like Tamora Pierce, generally.)
In the Forests of the Night, Amelia Atwater-Rhodes
The Mindwarp series, Chris Archer
The Indian in the Cupboard series, Lynne Reid Banks
The Everworld series, K.A. Applegate (she recommends Animorphs as well)
Hatchet, Gary Paulsen
The Island of the Blue Dolphins, Scott O'Dell (I also liked this one; it has 
a sequel called Zia which I've never read)
The Black Pearl, Scott O'Dell
The Outspoken Princess and The Gentle Night: A Treasury of Modern Fairy 
Tales.
She seconds recs of books by Lloyd Alexander

I haven't read most of these so I can't vouch for them, but she likes my 
fanfiction, so let us hope she has good taste.


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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 22:48:51 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:48:51 -0000
Subject: JKR interview (mugglenet & leaky)
In-Reply-To: <dbos79+g8on@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbp8oj+eurk@eGroups.com>

Message 28319 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> 
wrote:
> Have just been over to Mugglenet and read part one and two (of 
three) of their interview with Jo.  Don't go there if you don't want 
spoilers, but she has shed some light on things that maybe should 
have been obvious (but not necessarily to me, because I've spend the 
last 30 minutes going 'Oh yeah')
> Anyway, that woman has a riotous sense of humour and seems to have 
a real respect for internet HP.  Secretly I think she gets all her 
plots from our fanfic (but don't tell her I said so!)  She pointed 
out that she had read somewhere that ... oh I nearly said who ... 
but a certain person and a certain person got together and they do 
in HBP - she was astounded, but concluded that if she looked hard 
enough, the entire 7 book plot is written there somewhere - yeah 
right.  (Am being sarcastic here, but doesn't always come off in the 
written word!)
> Anyway, just thought I would advise you to go and have a read 
(after you've read HBP) - very entertaining.
> 
> Sarah xx

*****\(@@)/*****

I strongly agree with you there! I have been trying to read all of 
the interviews JKR gave that were reported and they were as 
entertaining as her books. JKR has a wonderful sense of humor I 
seems to have a wonderful love of her fans and definitely keeps 
everything in perspective. Also make sure you stop by on her site 
because she writes from her perspective on the reading and the 
interviews.

I should think amongst all the millions of posts that bits and 
pieces have been gotten right (with that much speculation going on, 
no wonder!). She did clarify a lot and gave me some insight into 
what I suspect is going to go on in Book 7. 

Jo is always welcome to lurk here and on Sunday chat (hint, hint)

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jul 22 07:12:15 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:12:15 -0400
Subject: And I Finished It (was Re: Happy Squeeing! I Got It!)
In-Reply-To: <dboquh+b269@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IK0006VUPC3WSQB@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[I had said]:
| > Hmmm--if I can't find butterbeer, will Saranac Black-&-Tan do? <BEG>
| 
| Mil here:
| 
| Definitly will do... Can I come?... Sounds perfectly delightful... 
| ... It might take me a while to get there though... hehe (I live in 
| Mexico...)
| 
| Mil- Thinking she should have pre-ordered the audio CD's as well...

[Lee]:
Well, beer and nachos are great, so come on over. :-)

Well, Art and I have finished the book and my head is ringing with
questions...lots of questions!  Sure, she answered a bunch but also created
a pile more.  Wouch! My brain is cramped and so is Art's.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 07:40:33 2005
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:40:33 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <a9844753050721132334d0cc4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dbq7th+s113@eGroups.com>

So many wonderful suggestions!   I would add any of the "Magic Tree 
House" series by Mary Pope Osborne (sp?) for younger children (4 - 9 
or so).  Easy reads, and also good read-to material.  Fun stories in 
which the two children explore a new place, time, historical era... 
something. They tend to be clumped by fours... so every four books 
usually encompass a quest of some sort.  We went through all 33 (34? 
35?) books, mostly courtesy of our local library.

-Andromeda






From valkyrievixen at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 10:30:09 2005
From: valkyrievixen at yahoo.com (M.Clifford)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:30:09 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbmqs5+romr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbqhrh+qvi9@eGroups.com>

HI all,

On the main list, someone asked for an explanation of "after a
fashion". Since I am Aussie, not British exactly, I couldn't give an
origin for the saying, but I did my best to explain the meaning. 

Who could help with that, does anyone know the origin of after a
fashion? I am guessing it's to do with "fad" as in, it was over faster
than a fad (fashion trend for those who don't get that) or something.

If I am making any sense, I hope I am..

Valky






From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 11:53:50 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:53:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbqhrh+qvi9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050722115350.99755.qmail@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Valky wrote:
 
HI all,

On the main list, someone asked for an explanation of "after a
fashion". Since I am Aussie, not British exactly, I couldn't give an
origin for the saying, but I did my best to explain the meaning. 


Lynn:
 
This is a phrase used in the US as well though perhaps by more mature people.  I couldn't tell you the origin of the phrase and it's not on any of the word origin sites I checked. 
 
Some definitions for fashion are:
 
noun: how something is done or how it happensverb: make out of components (often in an improvising manner)noun: characteristic or habitual practicenoun: the latest and most admired style in clothes and cosmetics and behavior
 
How I've used it and I believe it is being used here is to describe something that happened but not that directly.  Dumbledore did have a drink and return - after a fashion.  What's ommitted is that he and Harry apparated to a place, swam icy water into a cave, took a boat over a pond in which dead bodies were floating, then Dumbledore had a poisoned drink, grabbed the locket, shot fire at the dead bodies coming at he and Harry, took the boat back, swam some more, apparated back to Hogsmeade and then returned.
 
Anyway, that's how I've always used and have understood "after a fashion" to be used.
 
 


 

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From swartell at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 12:10:08 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:10:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <20050722115350.99755.qmail@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050722121008.23753.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>



> Valky wrote:
>  
> HI all,
> 
> On the main list, someone asked for an explanation
> of "after a fashion".
> 
> 
> Lynn:
>  
> This is a phrase used in the US as well though
> perhaps by more mature people.  

Now Sue:

an equivalent phrase would be "in a way" - a
technically true but incomplete description of
something.


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From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Fri Jul 22 14:02:31 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:02:31 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book list
In-Reply-To: <dbq7th+s113@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPIEEOCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

What about KM Kerr Pennington series? There were about a million but I
thought they were fabulous.

Out of print but well worth it is Shadow Summer and the other 3 books in the
series. I'm trying to remember who the author is, a woman from Tasmania.
They are a wonderful series about a family of 4 children who live on a dairy
farm. The 2nd youngest child, a girl, is to protagonist. In Shadow Summer
she has a breakdown and the book deals very well with an experience of
mental illness as an teenager.

I googled, Anne Farrell is the author.

Lee Harding "Displaced Person" and "Now I know" by Aidan Chambers "the
language of goldfish" and "A formal feeling", both by Zibby O'Neal. All of
these books deal with feeling different or alienated to an extent. A Formal
Feeling is about a parent's death, Now I know a young man's exploration of
belief (particularly Christian), The Language of Goldfish is about a young
woman's experience of depression and attempt to suicide. Displaced Person,
well who knows, Graham slips into a space where no one can hear him or see
him.

Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Eleanor Coerr

Wizard of Earthsea and others ...

Fire and Hemlock by Diana Wynne Jones

Plum Rain Scroll (and the other books in the series) by Ruth Manley.
Apparently it's just been reissued so I'll be back to the bookshop to get a
copy.

What about The changeover or anything by Margaret Mahy? The short stories,
The chewing gum rescue and other stories" are fabulous too

Annie on my Mind (Nancy Garden) a lesbian themed story and The year it
rained, (Crescent Dragonwagon) as well.

I'm glad to see you've got the Green Knowe books, I love them. And the Joan
Aitken book, that is another fabulous series

Excellent thread Shaun, lots of good memories.

storm



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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 22 14:05:09 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:05:09 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] And I Finished It (was Re: Happy Squeeing! I Got It!)
In-Reply-To: <0IK0006VUPC3WSQB@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <004801c58ec6$5fd34fc0$0400a8c0@pensive>

hi Lee,

Since we can't discuss it on this list, feel free to write me off list if
you want to discuss.  the main list is so busy, that it's overwhelming to
try to get a word in edge wise in some ways!  But I'm up for off list
discussions too, if anyone's interested.

sherry
sherriola at earthlink.net




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 15:03:52 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:03:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Birthdays? Did someone say birthdays?
Message-ID: <20050722150352.12276.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

*pulls her nose out a book and looks up at the waiting
crowd*

What? We've had birthdays, you say?

But, but... okay, you caught me. I've been, dare I say
it? Reading a book? I'm sorry good sirs and misses,
but it's a very interesting book and I just sort of
lost track of time. :)

We have 2 missed birthdays and one that's right on
time!

Missed birthday honourees were Cristina on the 19th
and Aggie on the 20th. Today's birthday honouree is
Anne (Silverthorne). Birthday owls of all sorts
(including belated!) can be sent care of this list or
directly to Cristina at: cristina_angelo at yahoo.com, to
Aggie at: aggie at raggie.freeserve.co.uk and to Anne at:
silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net

I hope all of you were finished reading in time to
enjoy a magical birthday. :)

Happy Birthday, Cristina!
Happy Birthday, Aggie!
Happy Birthday, Anne!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf 


	

	
		
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From k.coble at comcast.net  Fri Jul 22 15:06:57 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:06:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <20050722121008.23753.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050722121008.23753.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2f7759cee5c47375900a904edecc2439@comcast.net>


On Jul 22, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Sue Wartell wrote:

>
>
>> Valky wrote:
>>
>> HI all,
>>
>> On the main list, someone asked for an explanation
>> of "after a fashion".
>>
>>
>> Lynn:
>>
>> This is a phrase used in the US as well though
>> perhaps by more mature people.
>
> Now Sue:
>
> an equivalent phrase would be "in a way" - a
> technically true but incomplete description of
> something.
>

The Ernest Dowson poem "Cynara" is a good example of usage

"I have been faithful to thee, Cynara, in my fashion."

I've always considered it to be the equivalent of saying "in a manner 
of speaking".

The phrase itself has been around since the sixteenth century but seems 
to have acquired its renaissance in the 19th century where it was most 
often used in the context of wry commentary, such as in the Dowson 
poem.

Katherine the word geek




From kkersey at swbell.net  Fri Jul 22 15:40:54 2005
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:40:54 -0000
Subject: Book list
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Hi Shaun -

Hope this doesn't sound too ignorant, but what exactly does a literacy
specialist do? I imagine that that field could cover a rather wide
range, especially considering different ages and skill levels. 

Anyway, for beginning readers, besides Dr. Suess there are classics in
a similar vein by P.D Eastman, for instance Go, Dog Go and Put Me in
the Zoo. Just about anything by Margaret Wise Brown is good for very
young children (especially as read-to books). It's not so much the
stories as the way she uses language that is special. The Little Bear
and the Frog and Toad books (authors escape me right now) and Esther
Avril's Fire Cat and the Cat Club are all good stories, broken into
chapters, for beginning readers. 

Then there is Maurice Sendak - especially A Hole is to Dig. He has
produced so many provocative books that appeal to a wide range of
ages. I had one of those wonderful teaching moments many, many years
ago when I was doing some volunteer work at an after-school tutoring
program - the boy I was working with was reading way below grade level
and really struggling with each word, although he was bright enough.
He had that 'getting by' skill that a lot of ESL students seem to
aquire, where he would sound out the words and move on as if he
understood, even if he didn't. We had one of those "a-ha!" moments
when I figured out that he had no idea what "dough" meant - as soon as
we worked out that it was "masa" he got so excited about knowing what
was going on in the story that we read it three times in a row. He
*loved* that book - In the Night Kitchen. (Unfortunately that book is
often banned because of a wee bit of nudity. Stupid prudes.)

Skipping on up to much older kids, high school, if you have someone
really interested in science then I would recommend Steven Jay Gould's
essays, which are widely available. As a kid I devoured Isaac Asimov's
science essays too, though I imagine that many of them are
considerably out of date. The ones on mathematics should still be
relevant though. For the record, I couldn't stand his fiction, though
I read it too in order to remain SF literate.

For anyone interested in reading Jane Austen or other Nineteenth
Century literature I *emphatically* recommend a book called "What Jane
Austen Ate and What Charles Dickens Knew" (or maybe that's vice
versa...? Forgot the author's name, too, sorry!). It explains a lot of
those little details that have to do with nineteenth century manners,
economics, dress, etc. Things like explaining what the "ho ho" is that
figures into the action of Jane Austen's Persuasion (a fence that is
sunk in a ditch so as not to obscure the view), why one sister is Miss
Surname and the others Miss Firstnames, the significance of dancing
the quadrille, an explanation of the legal system, inheritance, pounds
and guineas and shillings and pence and what they are worth, etc. etc.
There's at least one companion volume written by the same author. If
I'd have had that book in high school maybe I'd have had better luck
getting past the second page of Pride and Prejudice. (One of my
favorites now, of course!) It fills in a lot of those details that the
author just took for granted that her readers would know.

Honestly, there are a lot of books that I loved as a child that aren't
necessarily going to be all that appealing to every child. Madeline
L'Engle wrote a lot of wonderful books for young adults, but I suspect
many kids would find them rather dated now. One thing that she does
well is write about teenagers interacting with the adults in their
lives. On the opposite end of the spectrum in that regard is S.E.
Hinton, specifically the Outsiders. Very popular when I was in junior
high school, but that may be because she was a local author. No idea
if kids are still reading those. I also loved E.B. White, which seem
to be still popular,  when I was younger.

Oh, I almost forgot - Wiliam Stieg! Everything he has written. Highly
recommend his stories to parents of young kids who are getting a wee
bit, er, annoyed with the lack of sophistication in most children's
stories. Dr. De Soto has saved my sanity on a number of occasions, and
of course kids love the books too.

Elisabet, who has been having some interesting conversations with her
spouse about childhood reading habits, thanks!






From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Jul 22 18:09:48 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:09:48 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <20050722115350.99755.qmail@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...> 
wrote:

As a Brit (but don't let that fool you into thinking I have a great 
command of the nuances of the language) I'd say that 'after a fashion' 
could be loosely translated as 'in a manner of speaking'
Yes, he did do what he said, but not entirely as one would assume.  He 
did go out and come back and that's as much as you need to know about 
it - the actual circumstances are unimportant.  
Am I making myself clear or are you all now thoroughly confused?

Sarah xx





From joseph at kirtland.com  Fri Jul 22 20:58:53 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:58:53 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbrcpc+c6qb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbrmmd+tr8q@eGroups.com>

Thanks to Harry, Amerispeak and Britspeak are growing ever closer 
together.  I now put a jumper on when it's cold, I lift the bonnet to 
check the oil, and I like looking for boot sales on weekends. (Someone 
once commented that I must have a lot of shoes.)

Still need to work on spellings... the 'ize vs 'ise, 'or vs 'our, 
specific words like tyre, programme (though on a computer we agree), 
etc.

Joe



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...> 
> wrote:
> 
> As a Brit (but don't let that fool you into thinking I have a great 
> command of the nuances of the language) I'd say that 'after a 
fashion' 
> could be loosely translated as 'in a manner of speaking'
> Yes, he did do what he said, but not entirely as one would assume.  
He 
> did go out and come back and that's as much as you need to know 
about 
> it - the actual circumstances are unimportant.  
> Am I making myself clear or are you all now thoroughly confused?
> 
> Sarah xx





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 21:52:00 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:52:00 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
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Message 28324 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" 
<valkyrievixen at y...> wrote:
> HI all,
> 
> On the main list, someone asked for an explanation of "after a
> fashion". Since I am Aussie, not British exactly, I couldn't give 
an
> origin for the saying, but I did my best to explain the meaning. 
> 
> Who could help with that, does anyone know the origin of after a
> fashion? I am guessing it's to do with "fad" as in, it was over 
faster than a fad (fashion trend for those who don't get that) or 
something.
> 
> If I am making any sense, I hope I am..
> 
> Valky

*****\(@@)/*****

Try this site:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/9/messages/526.html

Re: after a fashion

(Posted by R. Berg on July 05, 2001 on www.phrases.org.uk)
(In Reply to: after a fashion posted by S. Mikell on July 05, 2001)

The relevant sense of "fashion" as a noun in the Oxford Engl. Dict. 
is sense 5, "Manner, mode, way." Earliest example with "after" is 
dated 1539: "[They] passed through the Cytie in good ordre after A 
warlike facion." Another example: "Subjects serious in themselves, 
but treated after my fashion, non-seriously" (1822). 

A subsection of sense 5 has the definition "In depreciatory 
sense, 'After,' 'in,' 'a' or 'some fashion': somehow or another, in 
a sort, tolerably, not too well." An example for this 
sense: "Providence . . . has made me a lady after a fashion" (1869). 

Other parts of this site are also very interesting:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a.html

Very interesting!

Dudemom_2000

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 23:15:45 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:15:45 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak - After a Fashion
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Katherine Coble <k.coble at c...>
wrote:
> 
> On Jul 22, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Sue Wartell wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> Valky wrote:
> >>
> >> HI all,
> >>
> >> On the main list, someone asked for an explanation
> >> of "after a fashion".
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Now Sue:
> >
> > an equivalent phrase would be "in a way" - a
> > technically true but incomplete description of
> > something.
> >
> 
> ...
> 
> I've always considered it to be the equivalent of saying "in a
> manner of speaking".
> 
> The phrase itself has been around since the sixteenth century but
> seems to have acquired its renaissance in the 19th century w...
> 
> Katherine the word geek

bboyminn:

I think Katherine has nailed it. In a sense, 'after a fashion' is the
say as 'in a manner of speaking'; it is a phrased used to imply that a
statement is true within a limited context. For example, -

Q: Are you a rich man?

A: I am, after a fashion.

A: I am, in a manner of speaking.

A: I am, within a limited context.

A: I am, by the way I personally measure wealth.

These all imply a limited context. The reference to 'fashion' my be an
indirect reference to, generally speaking, popular trends. But like
many trends, bell-bottom pants only existed within a limited time
frame and social culture. So, again, the speaker who uses the phase
'after a fashion' is limitly putting non-specific limited on his answer.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 00:15:47 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:15:47 -0000
Subject: Main list is slowing down (a bit)
Message-ID: <dbs27j+j3ll@eGroups.com>

I was thinking (and maybe hoping) that the list would return to its 
usual 100 - 150 post a day, I really want to be able to read all the 
messages, but it still seems kinda impossible. Although we are slowing 
down a bit: Only 250 messages so far today! 

Juli





From KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jul 23 01:32:36 2005
From: KAREN-GARY at worldnet.att.net (Gary Sapp & Karen J.S.)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:32:36 -0000
Subject: JK's appearance- anyone notice anything different?
Message-ID: <dbs6nk+34j7@eGroups.com>

This may be a silly post but I saw a couple of photos of JK that were
odd.  On MSNBC site, they had a photo along with the Couric interview,
and she looked a bit odd, one eye a bit puffy.  I was surprised they
would print such a strange picture.  Then I saw pics from the midnight
reading in England, and she looked like she had lost a bunch of weight
fast.  I guess it was just the angle of the photos..anyone else notice
anything?

I don't mean this as anything rude or to pick on her, I just thought I
was seeing things and was concerned.

Karen





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 23 01:44:15 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:44:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JK's appearance- anyone notice anything
 different?
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Message-ID: <0IK200GI14TCKSV9@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Well, one would assume she lost a bunch of weight after her pregnancy, and
perhaps was trying to do just that.

As far as the puffy eye...hmm...perhaps allergic to the makeup that was put
on her.  I speak from personal experience! :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 02:11:19 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:11:19 -0700
Subject: Once again, WB messes things up...
Message-ID: <410-22005762321118994@earthlink.net>

I don't know how many of you have seen 
this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
shows that they pay NO attention
to details in the Harry Potter books.
In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
mark Tom SR's grave as 

"Tom Marvolo Riddle"

There is NO way that's right since
TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
came from his witch mother....
There have also been complaints
about the dates, but I'm much
more annoyed at the name problem.
How do they expect to fix this when
the HBP movie comes out?  

For anyone who would like to see the 
pic, visit:

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

Chancie~who wishes, that it should
be a rule that movie makers read, 
and pass a test on the books BEFORE
they make the movies......

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From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 02:44:58 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:44:58 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <410-22005762321118994@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <007a01c58f30$8470e300$220110ac@MoriMain>

Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.
 
Prof. Mori
 
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chancie 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:11 PM
To: OT Chatter
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
I don't know how many of you have seen 
this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
shows that they pay NO attention
to details in the Harry Potter books.
In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
mark Tom SR's grave as 

"Tom Marvolo Riddle"

There is NO way that's right since
TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
came from his witch mother....
There have also been complaints
about the dates, but I'm much
more annoyed at the name problem.
How do they expect to fix this when
the HBP movie comes out?  

For anyone who would like to see the 
pic, visit:

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

Chancie~who wishes, that it should
be a rule that movie makers read, 
and pass a test on the books BEFORE
they make the movies......

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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 23 02:48:29 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:48:29 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
References: <007a01c58f30$8470e300$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <00a701c58f31$025f59e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Prof. Mori wrote:

<WB is NOT in error.>

Was.

Tom M. Riddle is Voldemort.  Tom
"Whatever" Riddle Sr. is his father.
Then so on up the ladder.

Merope Riddle nee Gaunt is his mother.
Marvolo Gaunt is his Maternal grand
father.

There should be no grave marking
Tom/Thomas Marvolo Riddle as he's
rather not dead, he's alive and
terrorizing the Wizarding World.

I can understand the confusion though
as before book six (when the set
decoration was done), I wasn't sure if
"Marvolo" was his Maternal or Paternal
Grandfather and often had him under the
"Riddle" category as well.  It was just
stated he was named for his father and
grandfather.

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 02:53:02 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:53:02 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <007a01c58f30$8470e300$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <00e301c58f31$a5142ee0$0400a8c0@pensive>

But, Voldemort's mother's father, the wizard, was Marvolo.  not his muggle
father.  Marvolo was the name from his mother's side, so it would be a
mistake on his father's tombstone.  Marvolo wasn't a part of his father's
name.  

Sherry


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Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.
 
Prof. Mori
 
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From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chancie 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:11 PM
To: OT Chatter
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
I don't know how many of you have seen 
this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
shows that they pay NO attention
to details in the Harry Potter books.
In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
mark Tom SR's grave as 

"Tom Marvolo Riddle"

There is NO way that's right since
TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
came from his witch mother....
There have also been complaints
about the dates, but I'm much
more annoyed at the name problem.
How do they expect to fix this when
the HBP movie comes out?  

For anyone who would like to see the 
pic, visit:

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

Chancie~who wishes, that it should
be a rule that movie makers read, 
and pass a test on the books BEFORE
they make the movies......

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From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 02:54:03 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:54:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <00a701c58f31$025f59e0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <007f01c58f31$c946d880$220110ac@MoriMain>

Voldemort's parents were TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, SR. His mother was MEROPE
(nee GAULT) RIDDLE.  
Voldemort's name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, JR.
 
WB is NOT wrong.
 
 
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From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Saitaina
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:48 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
Prof. Mori wrote:

<WB is NOT in error.>

Was.

Tom M. Riddle is Voldemort.  Tom
"Whatever" Riddle Sr. is his father.
Then so on up the ladder.

Merope Riddle nee Gaunt is his mother.
Marvolo Gaunt is his Maternal grand
father.

There should be no grave marking
Tom/Thomas Marvolo Riddle as he's
rather not dead, he's alive and
terrorizing the Wizarding World.

I can understand the confusion though
as before book six (when the set
decoration was done), I wasn't sure if
"Marvolo" was his Maternal or Paternal
Grandfather and often had him under the
"Riddle" category as well.  It was just
stated he was named for his father and
grandfather.

Saitaina
****
"I like kids in theory...it's the
practice I'm having trouble with."

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

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From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 02:55:35 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:55:35 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <00e301c58f31$a5142ee0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <008401c58f32$00458520$220110ac@MoriMain>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle
 
See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
parentage.
 
I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.
 
Prof Mori
 
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From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:53 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
But, Voldemort's mother's father, the wizard, was Marvolo.  not his
muggle
father.  Marvolo was the name from his mother's side, so it would be a
mistake on his father's tombstone.  Marvolo wasn't a part of his
father's
name.  

Sherry


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[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Morianna X. Smythe
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.

Prof. Mori

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chancie 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:11 PM
To: OT Chatter
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

I don't know how many of you have seen 
this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
shows that they pay NO attention
to details in the Harry Potter books.
In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
mark Tom SR's grave as 

"Tom Marvolo Riddle"

There is NO way that's right since
TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
came from his witch mother....
There have also been complaints
about the dates, but I'm much
more annoyed at the name problem.
How do they expect to fix this when
the HBP movie comes out?  

For anyone who would like to see the 
pic, visit:

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

Chancie~who wishes, that it should
be a rule that movie makers read, 
and pass a test on the books BEFORE
they make the movies......

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From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sat Jul 23 02:58:31 2005
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:58:31 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <007f01c58f31$c946d880$220110ac@MoriMain>
References: <007f01c58f31$c946d880$220110ac@MoriMain>
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Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

>Voldemort's parents were TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, SR. His mother was MEROPE
>(nee GAULT) RIDDLE.  
>Voldemort's name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, JR.
> 
>WB is NOT wrong.
> 
> 
>
>  
>
Not true. Merope Gault was the daughter of MARVOLO Gault. Tom Marvolo 
Riddle was named for his father (Tom Riddle sr) and him mother's father 
Marvolo Gault. His muggle father did not have the name Marvolo.


-- 
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From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 02:58:47 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:58:47 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <42E1B257.5060405@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <008901c58f32$72acef40$220110ac@MoriMain>

OK-really simple.  Voldemort and his dad have the same name.  That's
what makes the whole Senior and Junior thing work.  His muggle Dad's
name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE.  Voldemort's original name was TOM MARVOLO
RIDDLE, JUNIOR.  His father MUST have had the same name.
\
 
-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Cawte
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:59 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

>Voldemort's parents were TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, SR. His mother was MEROPE
>(nee GAULT) RIDDLE.  
>Voldemort's name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, JR.
> 
>WB is NOT wrong.
> 
> 
>
>  
>
Not true. Merope Gault was the daughter of MARVOLO Gault. Tom Marvolo 
Riddle was named for his father (Tom Riddle sr) and him mother's father 
Marvolo Gault. His muggle father did not have the name Marvolo.


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From kcawte at ntlworld.com  Sat Jul 23 03:03:08 2005
From: kcawte at ntlworld.com (Kathryn Cawte)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:03:08 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <008901c58f32$72acef40$220110ac@MoriMain>
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Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

>OK-really simple.  Voldemort and his dad have the same name.  That's
>what makes the whole Senior and Junior thing work.  His muggle Dad's
>name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE.  Voldemort's original name was TOM MARVOLO
>RIDDLE, JUNIOR.  His father MUST have had the same name.
>\
> 
>
No what makes the sr and jr is that they have the same forename ie Tom, 
not the same middle name.

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From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 03:00:44 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (Bamajenny)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:00:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
References: <008401c58f32$00458520$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <010e01c58f32$c1c81820$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>

Even wikipedia agrees that WB is wrong:
Quote -
She died soon after giving birth, but not before naming her baby Tom after his father and Marvolo after her own.
End Quote
Jenny
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:55 PM
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle

  See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
  parentage.

  I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.

  Prof Mori

  -----Original Message-----
  From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:53 PM
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  But, Voldemort's mother's father, the wizard, was Marvolo.  not his
  muggle
  father.  Marvolo was the name from his mother's side, so it would be a
  mistake on his father's tombstone.  Marvolo wasn't a part of his
  father's
  name.  

  Sherry


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  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Morianna X. Smythe
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:45 PM
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


  Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
  Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.

  Prof. Mori

  -----Original Message-----
  From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chancie 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:11 PM
  To: OT Chatter
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  I don't know how many of you have seen 
  this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
  shows that they pay NO attention
  to details in the Harry Potter books.
  In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
  mark Tom SR's grave as 

  "Tom Marvolo Riddle"

  There is NO way that's right since
  TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
  came from his witch mother....
  There have also been complaints
  about the dates, but I'm much
  more annoyed at the name problem.
  How do they expect to fix this when
  the HBP movie comes out?  

  For anyone who would like to see the 
  pic, visit:

  http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

  Chancie~who wishes, that it should
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From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 03:02:11 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:02:11 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
Message-ID: <410-2200576233211713@earthlink.net>




> Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
> Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.
>  
> Prof. Mori
>  


Chancie:

Yes, you are right that Voldy's mother is Merope.
When I said "Marvolo came from his mother".
I was meaning her side of the family.  I should 
have written more clearly.

Also, I did the math, if the dates of birth and death
are correct on Tom Sr.'s tomb stone, and Voldy
was 16 when he murdered his grandparents,
and father, then that would have made Tom Sr
12 years old at Voldy's birth.... Does anyone else
have a problem with that???  

Chancie





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 23 03:01:01 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:01:01 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
References: <007f01c58f31$c946d880$220110ac@MoriMain> <42E1B257.5060405@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <00bf01c58f32$c2b7f660$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

K wrote:

<His muggle father did not have the
name Marvolo.>

*cries* Thank you!

I could give you a bloody genealogical
chart but the fact remains that Tom
Riddle Sr (Voldemort/Tom Riddle)'s
father (the muggle) did NOT have the
middle name Marvolo and has the wrong
name on the tombstone.

Tom M. Riddle Jr (the one that turns
into Moldie) should not be on a
tombstone at ALL, so no matter which
way you twist it, it's wrong.

Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

<His father MUST have had the same
name.>

No he mustn't.  First, last can equal a
Jr/Sr or at least that's now it's been
around here, but it would be awfully
odd for that many Marvolo's to be
running around that close together.
ESPECIALLY since it's been stated Tommy
was named for his GRANDFATHER when you
go by "Marvolo".

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 03:02:31 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:02:31 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <008901c58f32$72acef40$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <00e401c58f32$f8375600$0400a8c0@pensive>

Unfortunately, i can't quote you the exact text because i read the audio
books, but if you go back to the parts in HBP about Voldemort's parents, his
father's name was not Tom Marvolo riddle.  Marvolo was his maternal
grandfather's name.  He was named for his father Tom, and his mother's
father, Marvolo.  Hence, tom Marvolo Riddle.  

Sherry


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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:59 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


OK-really simple.  Voldemort and his dad have the same name.  That's
what makes the whole Senior and Junior thing work.  His muggle Dad's
name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE.  Voldemort's original name was TOM MARVOLO
RIDDLE, JUNIOR.  His father MUST have had the same name.
\
 
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[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Cawte
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:59 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

>Voldemort's parents were TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, SR. His mother was MEROPE
>(nee GAULT) RIDDLE.  
>Voldemort's name was TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE, JR.
> 
>WB is NOT wrong.
> 
> 
>
>  
>
Not true. Merope Gault was the daughter of MARVOLO Gault. Tom Marvolo 
Riddle was named for his father (Tom Riddle sr) and him mother's father 
Marvolo Gault. His muggle father did not have the name Marvolo.


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From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 03:03:47 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:03:47 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <010e01c58f32$c1c81820$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>
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Hey Guess what?  I'm wrong!  I admit it..
 
<slinks off>  muttering.but I was certain the Sr./Jr. thingus had to
include the middle name..
 
Prof Mori
(who is old enough to apologize somewhat graciously)
 
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Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
Even wikipedia agrees that WB is wrong:
Quote -
She died soon after giving birth, but not before naming her baby Tom
after his father and Marvolo after her own.
End Quote
Jenny
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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle

  See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
  parentage.

  I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.

  Prof Mori

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  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:53 PM
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  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  But, Voldemort's mother's father, the wizard, was Marvolo.  not his
  muggle
  father.  Marvolo was the name from his mother's side, so it would be a
  mistake on his father's tombstone.  Marvolo wasn't a part of his
  father's
  name.  

  Sherry


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  Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
  Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.

  Prof. Mori

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  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  I don't know how many of you have seen 
  this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
  shows that they pay NO attention
  to details in the Harry Potter books.
  In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
  mark Tom SR's grave as 

  "Tom Marvolo Riddle"

  There is NO way that's right since
  TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
  came from his witch mother....
  There have also been complaints
  about the dates, but I'm much
  more annoyed at the name problem.
  How do they expect to fix this when
  the HBP movie comes out?  

  For anyone who would like to see the 
  pic, visit:

  http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

  Chancie~who wishes, that it should
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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 23 03:04:23 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:04:23 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
References: <410-2200576233211713@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00c901c58f33$3af70b20$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Chancie wrote:

<then that would have made Tom Sr
12 years old at Voldy's birth.... Does
anyone else
have a problem with that???  >

Well you know, times were diffrent
then...

Just kidding, yeah, that one's wrong as
well.  Perhaps the set designer is as
bad in math as I am.

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 03:07:48 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:07:48 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <008e01c58f33$253ce8e0$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <00e501c58f33$b58f7930$0400a8c0@pensive>

I think that normally you are right.  for instance, one of my brothers was
named for our dad, grandfather and great grandfather.  So, my brother wasn't
called Jerry Gomes Jr.  He didn't have our dad's middle name.  My younger
brother however, was named for our grandfather, Joseph Vincent Gomes, and he
became the JVG III, because our uncle was the junior.

Does the book ever say Voldemort was tom Riddle Jr?  I can't remember.

Sherry


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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:04 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


Hey Guess what?  I'm wrong!  I admit it..
 
<slinks off>  muttering.but I was certain the Sr./Jr. thingus had to
include the middle name..
 
Prof Mori
(who is old enough to apologize somewhat graciously)
 
-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bamajenny
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:01 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
 
Even wikipedia agrees that WB is wrong:
Quote -
She died soon after giving birth, but not before naming her baby Tom
after his father and Marvolo after her own.
End Quote
Jenny
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Morianna X. Smythe 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:55 PM
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle

  See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
  parentage.

  I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.

  Prof Mori

  -----Original Message-----
  From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:53 PM
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  But, Voldemort's mother's father, the wizard, was Marvolo.  not his
  muggle
  father.  Marvolo was the name from his mother's side, so it would be a
  mistake on his father's tombstone.  Marvolo wasn't a part of his
  father's
  name.  

  Sherry


  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Morianna X.
Smythe
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:45 PM
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


  Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
  Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.

  Prof. Mori

  -----Original Message-----
  From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chancie 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:11 PM
  To: OT Chatter
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...

  I don't know how many of you have seen 
  this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
  shows that they pay NO attention
  to details in the Harry Potter books.
  In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
  mark Tom SR's grave as 

  "Tom Marvolo Riddle"

  There is NO way that's right since
  TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
  came from his witch mother....
  There have also been complaints
  about the dates, but I'm much
  more annoyed at the name problem.
  How do they expect to fix this when
  the HBP movie comes out?  

  For anyone who would like to see the 
  pic, visit:

  http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg

  Chancie~who wishes, that it should
  be a rule that movie makers read, 
  and pass a test on the books BEFORE
  they make the movies......

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From k.coble at comcast.net  Sat Jul 23 03:14:53 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:14:53 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <008401c58f32$00458520$220110ac@MoriMain>
References: <008401c58f32$00458520$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <43e129a3b0e23f22cd76650b8a6b3028@comcast.net>


On Jul 22, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Morianna X. Smythe wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle
>
> See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
> parentage.
>
> I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.
>
> Prof Mori
>
WB is DEFINITELY wrong, and Wikipedia is edited by the public so it's a 
bunch of cack.




From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sat Jul 23 04:15:39 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:15:39 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
Message-ID: <1ac.3c0b63ba.30131e6b@aol.com>

This has probably already been mentioned , but The Chronicals of Narnia 
Series is a good read ... just finished them. Also , the Jean Auel series with the 
first book being Clan of the Cavebear , although it is not kiddie lit ... is 
very good and different than anything you have read. All the books are very 
long to , and if you are an avid reader like me , and want long books as long as 
they are good ... this is a good series.


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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 04:56:21 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:56:21 -0000
Subject: New Discussion Group Anouncement
Message-ID: <dbsill+hnii@eGroups.com>

Just wanted everyone to know that a new group has been formed for those 
who want to explore the Harry Potter books from a Christian 
perspective. 

You can find it here at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/phoenix_orderof/







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 05:44:47 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:44:47 -0000
Subject: Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <43e129a3b0e23f22cd76650b8a6b3028@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <dbslgf+qk5h@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Katherine Coble <k.coble at c...>
wrote:
> 
> On Jul 22, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Morianna X. Smythe wrote:
> 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Riddle
> >
> > See Wikipedia's entry on Voldemort and study the section on his
> > parentage.
> >
> > I know you'll not believe me, but I had to try.
> >
> > Prof Mori
> >

> Katherine:
>
> WB is DEFINITELY wrong, and Wikipedia is edited by the public so 
> it's a bunch of cack.

bboyminn:

Katherine AND Wikipedia are correct; Warner Brothers is WRONG.

Tom Marvolo Riddle derives his first name from his Father, and his
middle name for his mother's father, which is what both the books and
Wikipedia says.

Wikipedia-
"She died soon after giving birth, but not before naming her baby Tom
after his father and Marvolo after her own."

"...after her own..." implies after her own FATHER. So, his first name
if from his father, and his second name if from is maternal grandfather.

WB is wrong both in the fact that we don't know Tom Riddle Sr.'s
father's name was also TOM (Grandpa Riddle), and in the fact that Tom
Riddle Sr. would be extremely unlikely to have an unusual name like
Marvolo as his middle name.

Regardless of the source of Wikipedia's information, it is essentially
correct.

Steve/bboyminn






From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 06:00:21 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:00:21 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Errata: was Re: Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <dbslgf+qk5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000201c58f4b$d00ae020$220110ac@MoriMain>

Sorry folks-
I happen to like wikipedia.  I just need to read it more carefully.  ;-)

I got "hung up" on the Sr. and Jr. part meaning that dad and son HAD to
have the same entire name, including the middle name. 
I have since been disabused of my notions. I posted in haste and I
regret the error.  
Prof Mori
(serving detention)
 
<SNIPPAGE>>
Warner Brothers is WRONG.

Tom Marvolo Riddle derives his first name from his Father, and his
middle name for his mother's father, which is what both the books and
Wikipedia says.

Wikipedia-
"She died soon after giving birth, but not before naming her baby Tom
after his father and Marvolo after her own."

"...after her own..." implies after her own FATHER. So, his first name
if from his father, and his second name if from is maternal grandfather.

WB is wrong both in the fact that we don't know Tom Riddle Sr.'s
father's name was also TOM (Grandpa Riddle), and in the fact that Tom
Riddle Sr. would be extremely unlikely to have an unusual name like
Marvolo as his middle name.

Regardless of the source of Wikipedia's information, it is essentially
correct.

Steve/bboyminn



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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 13:05:46 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:05:46 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <1ac.3c0b63ba.30131e6b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c58f87$3e5daa90$0400a8c0@pensive>

They might be a little violent for kids, except perhaps high school age.
There is extreme violence and rape in Clan of the Cave Bear.  That first
book was fascinating as a possible glimpse into prehistoric times, but not
something I'd consider for children.  t least not parts of it.  

Sherry


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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:16 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list


This has probably already been mentioned , but The Chronicals of Narnia 
Series is a good read ... just finished them. Also , the Jean Auel series
with the 
first book being Clan of the Cavebear , although it is not kiddie lit ... is

very good and different than anything you have read. All the books are very 
long to , and if you are an avid reader like me , and want long books as
long as 
they are good ... this is a good series.


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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 23 13:48:58 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:48:58 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbrmmd+tr8q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbthsa+auqe@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
wrote:
> Thanks to Harry, Amerispeak and Britspeak are growing ever closer 
> together.  I now put a jumper on when it's cold, I lift the bonnet 
to 
> check the oil, and I like looking for boot sales on weekends. 

Ah!  You mean you like looking for boot sales at weekends!!!  

Similarly you would give presents at Christmas not on Christmas, but 
you might do your food shopping on Tuesdays!

Sorry couldn't resist translating into Britspeak!!

Karen





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 23 13:59:53 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:59:53 -0000
Subject: Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <008e01c58f33$253ce8e0$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <dbtigp+9og6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Morianna X. Smythe" 
<morianna at m...> wrote:
> Hey Guess what?  I'm wrong!  I admit it..
>  
> <slinks off>  muttering.but I was certain the Sr./Jr. thingus had to
> include the middle name..

Part of the problem here is that the Jr / Sr thing is NOT used in the 
UK - this was explained ad nauseum on the main site when someone 
posted asking why Barty Crouch!Moody did not appear on the Marauders' 
Map as Barty Crouch Jr.  If the picture of the gravestone from WB 
includes a Sr then not only have they got the name wrong, but they've 
got that detail wrong too.

HTH

Karen






From morianna at mindspring.com  Sat Jul 23 15:10:38 2005
From: morianna at mindspring.com (Morianna X. Smythe)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:10:38 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
In-Reply-To: <002901c58f87$3e5daa90$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <001301c58f98$af98b9f0$220110ac@MoriMain>

Ok-this topic is one I can speak to without fear of "posting in haste."
  
In the twenty-odd years since Clan of the Cavebear was written, much
research into the possible interactions of Neanderthals and Modern
Humans (Cro-Magnon) has been conducted.  A re-analysis of a small bone
in the throat (the hyoid) and the bottom of the skull (cranial flexing
and the shape of the sphenoid-occipital synchrondrosis) give evidence
that Neanderthals *could have been* just as articulate as Modern
Humans-in other words, there is nothing about their anatomy which
precludes speech.   Also a possible "hybrid" (much like Ayla's son,
Durc) has been unearthed in a rockshelter in Spain.  As in much of
paleoscience, however, every hypothesis is strongly supported by some
and equally vilified by others.  We probably will never know for certain
if Neanderthals possessed symbolic spoken language.
 
I read the first book of the series when I was 13-the violence and
"sex/rape" didn't seem extreme to me then.but I wouldn't let an 8 year
old read it, I don't think.  
 
Also, this book was directly responsible for me becoming an
anthropologist-I studied under some of the professors Ms. Auel contacted
during her research.  Ms. Auel performed an incredible amount of
research for her books, and it shows.  Twenty-odd years later, most of
my anthropology students still read her series.  
 
And to keep this posting more-or-less on topic, might I suggest the
Chronicles of Thomas Covenant-the Unbeliever (or has that already been
suggested?).  Same author (Steven R. Donaldson) also wrote "Mordant's
Need". a nice fantasy duology.   Snape lovers might find superficial
similarities to Master Eramis.  It's all about the sneer, baby <evil
grin>.
 
Prof Mori
 
 
<SNIPPAGE>
They might be a little violent for kids, except perhaps high school age.
There is extreme violence and rape in Clan of the Cave Bear.  That first
book was fascinating as a possible glimpse into prehistoric times, but
not
something I'd consider for children.  t least not parts of it.  

Sherry


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From joseph at kirtland.com  Sat Jul 23 15:20:19 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:20:19 -0000
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
In-Reply-To: <dbthsa+auqe@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbtn7j+e4np@eGroups.com>

I'm still a bit new at this, but I'm learning.  :-)

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker" 
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
> wrote:
> > Thanks to Harry, Amerispeak and Britspeak are growing ever closer 
> > together.  I now put a jumper on when it's cold, I lift the bonnet 
> to 
> > check the oil, and I like looking for boot sales on weekends. 
> 
> Ah!  You mean you like looking for boot sales at weekends!!!  
> 
> Similarly you would give presents at Christmas not on Christmas, but 
> you might do your food shopping on Tuesdays!
> 
> Sorry couldn't resist translating into Britspeak!!
> 
> Karen






From bumbledore at comcast.net  Sat Jul 23 17:06:11 2005
From: bumbledore at comcast.net (bumbledore)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:06:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
References: <410-22005762321118994@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005f01c58fa8$d3fedc60$537a0b18@cauldron1>

Good call. Not to mention that the age of this Tom, is 28 or so. I seriously
doubt this could be Voldemorts own father, unless volde' went back in time.
Assuming that during that age, people didn't have kids untill they were in
their late teens, say 17,  Voldemort would be only 11 at the time of this
tom's death. And we know that he left hogwarts before he went back and
killed his parent.

In more simpler words, mathamaticaly, this person cannot be Voldemorts
father, and if it is, the WB not only got the name wrong, they have the
dates wrong too.

Typical of WB.. just throw crap up there to make it look good, (not
accurate) and sell a cheap story to make a buck.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chancie " <chnc1024 at earthlink.net>
To: "OT Chatter" <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...


> I don't know how many of you have seen
> this picture, but OBVIOUSLY Warner Bros.
> shows that they pay NO attention
> to details in the Harry Potter books.
> In the grave yard scene in GOF, they
> mark Tom SR's grave as
>
> "Tom Marvolo Riddle"
>
> There is NO way that's right since
> TMR is Voldemort and MARVOLO
> came from his witch mother....
> There have also been complaints
> about the dates, but I'm much
> more annoyed at the name problem.
> How do they expect to fix this when
> the HBP movie comes out?
>
> For anyone who would like to see the
> pic, visit:
>
> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/gof/ew_highres3.jpg
>
> Chancie~who wishes, that it should
> be a rule that movie makers read,
> and pass a test on the books BEFORE
> they make the movies......
>
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From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sat Jul 23 17:50:06 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:50:06 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book list
Message-ID: <218.559d1b1.3013dd4e@aol.com>

Oh , I said that clan of the cavebear was not kiddie lit


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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 18:58:47 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:58:47 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JK's appearance- anyone notice anything different?
In-Reply-To: <dbs6nk+34j7@eGroups.com>
References: <dbs6nk+34j7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1122145129.18C10838@bc12.dngr.org>


On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 7:10 pm, Gary Sapp & Karen J.S. wrote:
> This may be a silly post but I saw a couple of photos of JK that were
> odd.  On MSNBC site, they had a photo along with the Couric interview,
> and she looked a bit odd, one eye a bit puffy.  I was surprised they
> would print such a strange picture.  Then I saw pics from the midnight
> reading in England, and she looked like she had lost a bunch of weight
> fast.  I guess it was just the angle of the photos..anyone else notice
> anything?

She has a six month old. And speaking as the mom of three myself - my 
youngest is currently 15 weeks old - I sympathize with her late-night 
feeding schedule and yes, she's likely lost weight quickly as that's 
common after giving birth.

Heidi



From ksokol2006 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 15:28:34 2005
From: ksokol2006 at yahoo.com (Kerri Sokol)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Question about the fonts used in the books
Message-ID: <20050723152834.6214.qmail@web34004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi :)
 
Just wondering if anyone would happen to know the names of the various fonts that have been used in the books? I'm looking in particular for all of the signatures and handwriting samples (besides Hagrid's - already have that font) that have been put in throughout the books.
 
Thanks for any help,
 
Kerri


		
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From dfrankiswork at netscape.net  Sat Jul 23 19:28:32 2005
From: dfrankiswork at netscape.net (davewitley)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:28:32 -0000
Subject: Lemony Snicket (was Book List)
In-Reply-To: <dbmkhl+jmmo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbu5p0+8rm2@eGroups.com>

Steve asked:

> Someone else mentioned " A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony
> Snicket, I've always had the feeling that because there are so many
> volumes of these books, that they were like the modern equivalent 
of
> Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew. True, those are all time classic books, 
but
> I wonder about the substance of them, as in, do they have any? I'm
> willing to be enlightened by group opinons on the books.

Kemper and others were very negative about these.

Steve, I think you will have to make up your own mind about them: I 
like them very much, and did so right from the first one.  Others I 
know say that they take a while to get going so it's only the later 
ones that are good.

Whether one likes them or not, there's no doubt in my mind that they 
have substance.  As well as a vast number of literary and cultural 
allusions, and quite a few puzzles, there is a definite central 
mystery and a strong moral core.

I have never read any Nancy Drew or Hardy Boys (indeed have never 
heard of the latter), but I suspect the answer is 'no'.  A Series of 
Unfortunate Events is planned to contain 13 books (plus "Lemony 
Snicket, The Unauthorised Autobiography"), and since so far every 
book has had exactly 13 chapters I'm sure that was planned form the 
beginning.  They form a connected story, rather more so than Harry 
Potter as the later books end with cliff-hangers that lead directly 
into the next book.

As for the sense of humour, I love it.  You will have to draw your 
own conclusions.  If you think that "Unauthorised Autobiography" is 
one of the funniest titles ever for a book, you will probably like 
it.

David





From phil at pcsgames.net  Sat Jul 23 19:29:01 2005
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:29:01 -0400
Subject: JKR.com sound glossary
References: <dblibe+fm77@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008a01c58fbc$cf352f40$6600a8c0@phil>

J.K.Rowling Official Site sound glossary
http://www.jkrowling.co.uk/accessible/en/

open accessibility tools
close site help
site overview
sound glossary
General  sounds
pen scribble - indicating a menu item has been highlighted
magical item
peeves
portkey journey
page loaded
reward certificate

Desktop sounds
spider
key number into the phone
number not recognised
call button press
correct number
lamp on / off
open wizard of the month calendar
peeves has knocked over the pen
a doxy beetle has flown across the desk
Biography sounds
open diary
turn page
close diary
Rumours sounds
open rumours magazine
close rumours magazine
Links sounds
books are being placed on the bookshelf
magical box opening
selected book opening
current book closing
Extra stuff sounds
tab has been selected
switch radio on / off
page has been torn from pin board
you have revealed a potion

F.A.Q. sounds
owls are delivering the mail
envelope selected
close faq - envelopes are been blown off the desk

Rubbish bin sounds
flies
sneakascope
pen has broken
rustle paper inside the bin
rubbish item opening / closing
sticker highlighted

Room of requirements sounds
switch light on / off
'peeves woz ere' appears on the mirror
wind chimes





From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sat Jul 23 19:39:00 2005
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:39:00 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon:
I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
for fun:

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

5) Will any of the trio die?

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 23 19:42:59 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:42:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <007a01c58f30$8470e300$220110ac@MoriMain>
Message-ID: <0IK300101IR8YGCN@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Mori]:
| Tom Marvolo Riddle, Sr-to be precise. Voldemort's mother was Merope
| Riddle (nee Gaunt).  WB is NOT in error.

[Lee, shaking head vigorously-:
Yes they are, friend.  Marvolo was Meropes father, so Tom Riddle Sr.
couldn't *Possibly* have that as his middle name.

Shocking!

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 20:04:48 2005
From: ms_melanie1999 at yahoo.com (Miss Melanie)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:04:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050723200448.2901.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com>

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead? Uh yeah see I'm not completely crazy!  

2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?  I go back and forth but no...

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring? THEY WERE HOLDING HANDS!!!!!  Sorry they are a couple :)

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone? Dumbledore loved Snape..I don't it's a good question about Snape...

5) Will any of the trio die? Still thinking Ron

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite? more than likely

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7? they all will

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux? YES! 

9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories? because he didn't get him until later

10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7? Who knows....I'll decide later but probably Ron

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? I would think

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7? Headmistress of hogwarts

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to? Um I'm sure for a bit at least

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry? I wasn't aware that the Order broke up?  

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt? I don't think he can

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban? Well if I was Lucius I wouldn't want to leave.  

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7? who knows really....hinder more than likely

18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"? that genetically he has his mothers eyes.  LOL

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow? no besides tipping him off.  





		
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From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 20:10:29 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050723201029.79678.qmail@web53501.mail.yahoo.com>



Brenda <luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
Luckdragon:
I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
for fun:

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
Unfortunately he is but we will hear more from him via the portrait and memories that he left for Harry in the pensieve due to him knowing the risks of what they were on their way to do.
2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

Outward appearances say yes but I cannot help but think that there is more than meets the eye.  I am reserving judgement though my knee-jerk reaction is to say yes.

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

I think (and hope) that they are truely a couple.  War brings feelings out sooner and stronger than in other circumstances.  Whether or not it will last after the war, we may never know.  Are there divorces in the WW?  I believe that we will have a Bill/Fleur wedding at the beginning of the next book and a Lupin/Tonks wedding at christmas.  Could these provide opportunities for attack?

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

I think Snape loved Lily.  I also think that it was Snape that Bertha caught kissing.  Maybe he was engaged in Won-won type relationship or it was a if-I-can't-have-Lily type thing.

5) Will any of the trio die?

No, I think one or even all will receive horrible wounds but I really do not think any will die.

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

I am still rooting for Luna but I think that they will at the end of #7 (provided that Ginny has not be killed).

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

For research, defence, etc but not as a student.

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

I do not think so.  LV was trying to kill and he would not form a horcrux out of something that he wanted to kill.  It is too complicated of a spell to be done "by accident".

9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

For the same reason that you do not see him following DD around the castle or on his trips.  

10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

I still opt for one or more Weasley (and this now includes Fleur).  I also think that some of the kids from Hogwarts.  I cannot help but wonder what happened to the Creavy brothers.  

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Yes, and MM also.  It will not give the indepth history type help but that is not the only type of help he will need.  I also cannot help but think that the chocolate frog cards will come into play.

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

New headmistress and the liason for the OOtP and Hogwarts and possibly the trio.

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

To start with as he said he would.  Hr and R will go with him.  Vernon will make some wild comment about Harry's money or inheritance.  We will learn more from Petunia.  Then they will leave but I am not sure under what circumstances (will they be attacked there or will it be to go to the wedding?  will they take the Dursleys if there is an attack and if so would Harry take them to GP?).  

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

The OOtP will be headed by Lupin and will help Harry out of Hogwarts.  The DA will help him in Hogwarts.  The death of DD will bring them back together.  The coins will play a part.

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

That will be part of the last battle.  He will also have a part to play with Lupin or Bill.  Why else does he have the hand....unless he will pay the debt back with Greyback and thus have Lupin owe him..... leads to many combinations and possibilities.

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Absolutely.  At the beginning of #7.  I cannot wait to see Lucius' welcome (or not) back into the fold.  Suppose he is ousted but Draco is in.... boggles the imagination.

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

I think that in the effort to hinder him, he will actually help him.  Dobby will be in there as well, of course.

18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

I am still stumped on this one

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

No, he had already turned to DD and the "good side".  If he was there, it had to be as a spy.  Something happened between the prophecy and GH.  I cannot wait to find out what it was.







I have looked back at many of the predictions for HBP and I cannot wait to see how far off the mark I am!!

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 23 20:13:30 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:13:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR.com sound glossary
In-Reply-To: <008a01c58fbc$cf352f40$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <0IK3000RJK62KD10@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Phil,

Where did you get all this info?  I get on the link, I hear wind and traffic
and such, but I can't read a thing except (using mouse keys) the first part
of the page text.  I see no graphics or links or anything readable.

I'm using WE-5.0, and am at a total loss.

If you've got thinkings, pop me a note off list.  But this lady is befuddled
and confunded.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 20:47:37 2005
From: moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com (K G)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Main list is slowing down (a bit)
In-Reply-To: <dbs27j+j3ll@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050723204737.84540.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>

I find myself putting each in a catagory file my subject (JKR interview, horcruxes, ships, etc.) so that later when I have more time, I can go back and follow each thread through.  Maybe something like this will help and you can take your time with the posts and not feel so rushed.  Replies will be late but it will just stir new debates later on.
 
moonmyyst

jlnbtr <jlnbtr at yahoo.com> wrote:
I was thinking (and maybe hoping) that the list would return to its 
usual 100 - 150 post a day, I really want to be able to read all the 
messages, but it still seems kinda impossible. Although we are slowing 
down a bit: Only 250 messages so far today! 

Juli




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From k.coble at comcast.net  Sat Jul 23 21:01:16 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:01:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
References: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
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On Jul 23, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Brenda wrote:

> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just
> for fun:
>
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

K:  Yes

>
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
>

K:  I honestly cannot make up my mind.


> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
>

K:  Yes, they really are a couple, and an adorable one.

> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
>

K:  I think Snape has loved Lily and LV


> 5) Will any of the trio die?
>

K:  No.


> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
>

K:  Yes.

> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
>

K:  Yes, but not permenantly.


> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

K:  I hope not.   I think it is something like horcrux backwash.  
Basically, LV had already split his soul so much that when the AK 
backfired and almost killed him, some of his traits and talents 
rebounded into Harry.

OR:

Snape told Dumbledore that LV intended to make Harry a Horcrux and LV 
and Snape spent the Famous Missing 24 Hours destroying the Horcrux part 
of Harry already, thus leaving him with the scar.   This could also be 
the reason why DD trusts Snape.


>
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
>

K:  Cause he wasn't there.  My dogs aren't with me everywhere I go......


> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
>

K:  Hagrid.

> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry?
>

K:  Yes.  If only for exposition's sake.


> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
>

K:  Trying to hold Hogwarts together.

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?


K:  Yes.  He has to find out Petunia's secret.   I still think that the 
person she overheard telling Lily about the Dementors was Snape, NOT 
James.

>
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
>

K: Yep.



> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

K:  Of course.  Maybe not intentionally, but he will.

>
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
>

K:  Of course.  Don't they always?  Besides, there has to be a showdown 
with Lucius.


> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
>

K:  Both, but any aid will be reluctant.


> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

K:  We saw the significance already with Harry using the resemblance to 
lure Slughorn back to Hogwarts.


>
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
>
>
>

K:  I think that's the key to the Famous Missing 24 Hours.





Katherine

PS.  Thanks for posting this.  It's a great exercise, and I'm looking 
forward to other answers.




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 21:03:12 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:03:12 -0000
Subject: Main list is slowing down (a bit)
In-Reply-To: <20050723204737.84540.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dbubag+sphh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, K G <moonmyyst13 at y...> wrote:
> I find myself putting each in a catagory file my subject (JKR 
interview, horcruxes, ships, etc.) so that later when I have more 
time, I can go back and follow each thread through.  Maybe something 
like this will help and you can take your time with the posts and not 
feel so rushed.  Replies will be late but it will just stir new 
debates later on.
>  
> moonmyyst
> 
Juli again:

Actually, I've been able to read all messages today, although still 
they are all very much alike. I think it was just that everyone 
(inluding myself) was just very excited with the new cannon. And we 
still have at least 2 years to discuss it. I'm sorry to be complaining 
so much...

Juli






From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 21:28:40 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:28:40 -0000
Subject: Once again, WB messes things up...
In-Reply-To: <00e501c58f33$b58f7930$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <dbucq8+qk9j@eGroups.com>

Message 28354 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at e...> wrote:
> I think that normally you are right.  for instance, one of my 
brothers was named for our dad, grandfather and great grandfather.  
So, my brother wasn't called Jerry Gomes Jr.  He didn't have our 
dad's middle name.  My younger brother however, was named for our 
grandfather, Joseph Vincent Gomes, and he became the JVG III, 
because our uncle was the junior.
> 
> Does the book ever say Voldemort was tom Riddle Jr?  I can't 
remember.
> 
> Sherry
> 
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A trip to the Lexicon can usually solve these things:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/voldemort.html

Hope this helps all who have questions (and I can't wait for it to 
be updated!)

Dudemom_2000

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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 21:52:43 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:52:43 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbue7b+1igm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all 
feeling about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. 
Just for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

**Yes. I think, somehow, his picture says it all....
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

**I am really torn here. I have my suspicions that Snape did as DD 
wanted. But are we being fed a red herring and Snape is just really 
a bad guy?
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

**Not a red herring. I was so thrilled to have Lupin find someone 
and we learned that if someone is unhappy enough, they lose some of 
their powers.
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

**Not a clue. I do think he loved or at least was attracted to Lily. 
She was very popular.
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?

**No, but I can't say why....
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

**Yes, I see Ginny not taking the separation lying down and she is 
also very, very talented and will have Harry's back whether he 
realizes it or not.
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

**I say definitely, yes. Hogwarts has not outlived it's usefulness. 
Besides Harry may still have unfinished business there. I think he 
will be persuaded to go back at least for a bit. (Possibly to get 
away from the MoM!)
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

**No. It may be a byproduct of LV trying to make a horcrux via 
Harry's death.
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

**Not sure. Maybe he simply wasn't there at that particular moment.
 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

**A Weasley, a teacher, possibly even Hagrid.
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry?

**Definitely, yes. And I think it will be important in persuading 
Harry to return to Hogwarts. 
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

**Possibly headmistress. Certainly she is still a participating 
member of OoP. Also she will be useful in keeping the MoM off 
Harry's back.
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

**Yes, but I see only until at least his birthday and then he will 
leave. I see him staying a bit at the Weasleys but having to go to 
Grimmauld Place because of the danger he will pose to the Weasleys.
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

**I think so, with possibly Neville and Luna being the instigators.
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

**Yes, but I figure it will be resolved near the end of book 7.
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

**Maybe, maybe not. It may actually be safer to sit in Azkaban right 
now and lay low, rather than break out and put one's life on the 
line for LV. If LV is defeated, you can always say you were 
threatened etc. If he wins it makes for a great excuse as to why you 
didn't join in the fun....
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

**Kreacher will always be on the lookout for a way to hinder Harry, 
but I think Dobby has him pretty well in hand. Dobby can be somewhat 
fanatical where Harry is concerned....
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

**I think Harry's features symbolize that he has the best of both 
his parents. 
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

**After reading part 3 of the JKR interview a bit ago, I suspect he 
just might have been if he is as truly bad as he is now 
appearing...... Otherwise, I would say Wormtail took LV there....

Dudemom_2000

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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat Jul 23 22:46:12 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:46:12 EDT
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
Message-ID: <1e8.3faea24d.301422b4@aol.com>

As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, I am  
having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal with some very  
upset children. 
 
Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who is 14, says  
he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old girl just looks 
 at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling at everyone about it. 
 
---Mary


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From k.coble at comcast.net  Sat Jul 23 23:36:54 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:36:54 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
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On Jul 23, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Mhochberg at aol.com wrote:

> As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, I 
> am
> having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal with 
> some very
> upset children.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who is 14, 
> says
> he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old girl 
> just looks
>  at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling at everyone 
> about it.
>
> ---Mary
>
>

I wish I had good ideas for this.  It was hard enough for me to handle 
at 35.  I can only imagine what it's like for young kids.

I would say that it is probably a good time to remind them of DD's 
words at the end of book 1  about death being the next great adventure. 
  Maybe it would also be good for them to hear Gandalf's speech in 
LOTR:ROTK about the undiscovered country of death.

I know it's hard, but the only way for humans to triumph over death is 
to defeat our fear of it.  It seemed that DD wasn't afraid of death, 
and so he did triumph over it.

Katherine




From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 23:58:48 2005
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:58:48 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <5241bffb743e8a22d352469fc5ed554a@comcast.net>
References: <1e8.3faea24d.301422b4@aol.com>
	 <5241bffb743e8a22d352469fc5ed554a@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5913e6f80507231658b9439f0@mail.gmail.com>

I'm doing an article on this for The Leaky Cauldron - anyone who has
been dealing with this is welcome to drop me a note - heidi @
heidi8.com - with their suggestions and thoughts.

Beliefnet.com has some thoughts on the issues raised from HBP. 

Speaking personally here, I don't think the book is especially
appropriate for kids under 11 or so to read without a parent reading a
bit ahead. My six year old is not going to read/listen to the CDs for
a while yet.

Heidi

On 7/23/05, Katherine Coble <k.coble at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 23, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Mhochberg at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, I
> > am
> > having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal with
> > some very
> > upset children.
> >
> > Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who is 14,
> > says
> > he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old girl
> > just looks
> >  at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling at everyone
> > about it.
> >
> > ---Mary
> >
> >
> 
> I wish I had good ideas for this.  It was hard enough for me to handle
> at 35.  I can only imagine what it's like for young kids.
> 
> I would say that it is probably a good time to remind them of DD's
> words at the end of book 1  about death being the next great adventure.
>   Maybe it would also be good for them to hear Gandalf's speech in
> LOTR:ROTK about the undiscovered country of death.
> 
> I know it's hard, but the only way for humans to triumph over death is
> to defeat our fear of it.  It seemed that DD wasn't afraid of death,
> and so he did triumph over it.
> 
> Katherine
> 
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From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Sun Jul 24 00:28:25 2005
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:28:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
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Oh, I love surveys. *foolish grin*

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
To paraphrase Cordelia from BTVS:  Totally dead.  Way dead.

2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
Eh.  Really can't decided.

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
I'm going to go with a tentative "yes".

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
I'm still pulling for the old Snape loved/lusted after/obsessed over 
Lily angle.  Take your pick of the flavor.

5) Will any of the trio die?
Probably not -- their relationship is too integral to the story.  I 
think if JKR was going to go for the BIG LOSS for Harry, she'd pick off 
Ginny rather than Hermione or Ron.  I was worried that the 
relationships in HBP would weaken the trio, but I'm happy to see that 
they're as close as ever.  ^_^ (As for Harry dying, I'm not touching 
that one with a twenty-foot wand.)

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
Ick.  I hope not -- but probably, yes.

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
Harry seemed pretty damned sure he wasn't going back, didn't he?  But 
then, I can barely imagine a HP book without *some* Hogwarts.

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
Seems like an appealing theory, but it's not very plausible from a 
logistics standpoint.  Hey, maybe Ginny's a horcrux too, and she and 
Harry will have to form a suicide pact to take out Voldy.  ^_~ Wouldn't 
that be *romantic*?

9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
He wasn't around?  What memories are you referring to, exactly?

10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
I have no idea.  I keep nominating Hagrid, but, damnit, he just keeps 
living.  (To be fair, though, he wasn't nearly so annoying in HBP as in 
OotP.)

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry?
Marginally.

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
She'll be headmistress, naturally.  Other than that, I don't know.

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
Yes.  I think there will be hell to pay when the protection wears off, 
though.  For the Dursleys, that is.

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
I don't think the OotP is going to be disbanded because of Dumbledore's 
death, and I do believe they will continue to fight Voldy.  Whether 
they help or hinder Harry in his current go-it-alone quest is up for 
grabs.  Interesting idea about the DA . . . although, again, Harry is 
quite determined at this point to strike out alone (albeit for the 
company of Ron and Hermione).

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Yes.  Especially now that he feels he is being mistreated and 
undervalued.

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
Most likely.

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
We've already played the surprise hindrance card with him, haven't we?  
Either he'll be a help, or he'll hardly play a part at all.

18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
Eyes are the windows to the soul.  I think it means, symbolically, that 
while he may *look* like James, he has his mother's heart.  That is, 
she has given him her greatest power -- the power that the Dark Lord 
knows not -- love.  (Sickly sweet, I know, but there it is.)

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
Was he there?  I don't have enough information to take a stab at that 
yet.

Laura




From joseph at kirtland.com  Sun Jul 24 00:51:32 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:51:32 -0000
Subject: Unanswered Dursley Questions
Message-ID: <dbuomk+caju@eGroups.com>

The Half-Blood Prince was certainly a shocker, adding as many 
questions to the queue as were answered.

Am I the only one that wished there was a bit more dialog about the 
Dursleys - Petunia in particular.  Back in OotP, when Harry arrives 
home with Dudley following the Dementor attack, Petunia dropped the 
bomb when Vernon asked what the ruddy hell dememtors were.  Petunia 
blurts out that they guard the wizard prison, Azkaban.  Harry was 
obviously as shocked by this statement as learning Mrs Figg was a 
witch.

For someone who hates the wizarding world as much as the Dursleys, 
that's a rather trivial piece of information to retain for so many 
years.

Do we just accept the fact that Petunia has some basic understanding 
of the wizarding world because her sister was a witch, or is there 
more to this woman than we've been led to believe?

I'm also trying to understand Dumbledore's statement of how 
important it is that Harry return to Number 4 Privet drive before he 
comes of age.  Is this to protect Harry, or the Dursleys?  When 
Harry does come of age, the protection spell apparently no longer 
works.  What danger does this put the Dursleys in?

Two years or so is certainly going to be a long wait!

Joe







From amis917 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 01:38:38 2005
From: amis917 at hotmail.com (amis917)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:38:38 -0000
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <1e8.3faea24d.301422b4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dbureu+naf2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at a... wrote:
> As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, 
I am having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal 
with some very upset children. 
>  Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who is 
14, says he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old 
girl just looks at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling 
at everyone about it. 
>  
> ---Mary
> 
> 


A few days ago, The Leaky Cauldron Posted this link:
 
http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2005/07/21/young_potter_readers_
need_to_talk_grieve/ 

It's an arcticle about how kids need to talk about the book. It gives a 
few ideas. Basically it just says to give kids a safe place where they 
can talk about their feelings. As for kids who are too upset to talk 
about it, they may need to write. I'm not good at putting things in to 
verbal langauge, but I always feel better after I write my feelings 
down. You could then discuss their writings with them. I know I needed 
support, and I'm 22. Luckily, these kids have someone in you who has 
read the book and is concerned. I think we're going to be geting more 
advice on this very topic because the ending is upsetting and kids will 
be affected. The atrticle also disucsses how fiction can be used to 
discuss things that are bothering kids in real life. 

I was just thinking, maybe you could make up some kind of survey, with 
questions for the kids to answer. (maybe too much like homework though) 
You could ask about their feelings on different parts of the story not 
just the ending. The rest of the book is filled with love and humor - 
but the end leaves you with a horrible feeling. Maybe by talking about 
the more enjoyable parts of the story (Fred and George's shop, Ron and 
Lavander, Harry and Ginny, etc) it'll make talking about the end 
easier. I've started rereading the book slowly; it's helping me 
remember the funny parts of the story.

I hope this helps. I'm not a parent, so I don't know what that's like. 
I am a teacher, so I tried to look at it from that perspective.

- Amie, who's mom commited the one major error the article said parents 
shouldn't do. Tell kids "it's just a book". It makes you feel worse, 
trust me.






From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Jul 24 02:07:43 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:07:43 EDT
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
Message-ID: <156.557a7d4f.301451ef@aol.com>

Katherine Coble writes:
I wish I had good ideas for this.  It was  hard enough for me to handle 
at 35.  I can only imagine what it's like  for young kids.
 
I reply:
Yes, it can be particularly hard on young teens and preteens. Also  they are 
old enough to understand that this is a fictional  character that they are 
grieving over and they are bewildered about  the strength of their reaction. Even 
those who cry in movies are surprised  at their reaction. 
 
Very young kids don't grasp death as well as well as this age group and  don
't seem to be as bothered. 
 
Katherine Coble writes:
I would say that it is probably a good time to  remind them of DD's 
words at the end of book 1  about death being the  next great adventure. 
Maybe it would also be good for them to hear  Gandalf's speech in 
LOTR:ROTK about the undiscovered country of death.
 
I know it's hard, but the only way for humans to triumph over death is  
to defeat our fear of it.  It seemed that DD wasn't afraid of death,  
and so he did triumph over it.

I write:
Those are all good suggestions and ones that I will mention. Fear of death  
is not something that I have passed on to my own children, thank goodness. They 
 may fear it but they know that, like DD, I know that there is the next  
adventure ahead.
 
I have to be extra careful when I talk to the kids as I do NOT believe that  
DD is truly dead or that he was betrayed by Snape. 
 
I was thinking about HBP and assigning a movie advisory rating. So  much 
depends on the child's own imagination. Even so, it wouldn't be more than a  PG. 
What makes it hard is that most kids got to know and love DD.
 
Thanks for your suggestions. This will be a good growing experience for the  
kids, especially as it will not only stretch their emotions but also get them  
thinking about their own beliefs about death. With a little luck, they will 
be  able to talk to their parents about it too, and so bring them all closer  
together.
 
---Mary



From cwood at tattersallpub.com  Sun Jul 24 02:44:43 2005
From: cwood at tattersallpub.com (MsTattersall)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:44:43 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbuvar+a8uk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead? 
Yes. For now. But anything can happen in fantasy, and his affinity 
for phoenixes (and the name Order of the Phoenix) can't be 
coincidental.
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
Tough call. Sure looks like it. Wasn't it DD who put the freezing 
charm on Harry? If so, it was to make sure there was a witness to 
what was happening. But JKR has fooled us before. 

> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
No reason to expect it is anything but what it seems.
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
Snape probably loved his mother, or he would not have honored her by 
declaring himself the "Half-Blood Prince." I'm still a little curious 
about why he chose to do this, unless it was just something he did as 
a snivelly teenager to boost his own self-esteem and just nursed it 
along with his other grudges all these years.
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?
No, but one of them may come even closer than they did in HBP (the 
poisoning incident).
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
The magic 8-ball says "chances are good."
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
Hogwarts is too integral a part of the story to be abandoned 
altogether. I think Harry will return there after he's had his 
soujourns to Godric's Hollow, and Grimmauld Place to see to his 
inheritance. Of course the others will go, because even after the 
tragedy, Hogwarts is a safer place for kids to be than most.
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
It had not occurred to me that it might be. It would explain a lot 
that LV transferred not only part of his powers to Harry, but part of 
his soul. That would sure make things sticky in the final battle, 
wouldn't it?
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
Fawkes doesn't go everywhere DD goes.
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
I don't even want to think about it yet.
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
To some extent. 
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
She will be headmistress. And as far as I can tell, no one has yet 
mentioned that as headmistress, she can't also be head of Gryffindor 
House--somebody else will be appointed. Any guesses?
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
Yes, grudgingly, he must, for a little while. But he will never, ever 
go back.
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
I don't think the Order has disbanded; probably it will gain more 
members. I think the DA is pretty much finished, although Neville and 
Luna will remain heavily involved with Harry's future.
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Perhaps he will try.
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
Oh, yes, I'm sure they've already done so. What has kept them in, now 
that the Dementors have deserted to follow LV?
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
I hope to God we have seen the last of him. 
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
Not a clue. But every time that phrase comes up, I can't help but 
think of the scene in the movie "Addams Family Values" where Gomez 
and Morticia are admiring the new baby, and he says, "He has my 
father's eyes," and Morticia says, "Gomez, take those things out of 
his mouth."

> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
To his everlasting regret, yes. I think this is part of why DD always 
thought the better of Snape, that his repentance over this act was 
true. 

MsTattersall








From juli17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 24 02:27:55 2005
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:27:55 EDT
Subject: Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <111.4e917f96.301456ab@aol.com>

Katherine wrote:


> 8) Is  Harry's scar a horcrux?

K:  I hope not.   I think it is  something like horcrux backwash.  
Basically, LV had already split his  soul so much that when the AK 
backfired and almost killed him, some of his  traits and talents 
rebounded into Harry.

OR:

Snape told  Dumbledore that LV intended to make Harry a Horcrux and LV 
and Snape spent  the Famous Missing 24 Hours destroying the Horcrux part 
of Harry already,  thus leaving him with the scar.   This could also be 
the reason  why DD trusts Snape.


Julie says:
Now that is a really inventive theory! I'm trying to recall if there was  any 
mention of the scar appearing at the moment Voldemort tried to AK  Harry. 
The only problem I see is that Dumbeldore told Harry only two of the 
horcruxes had been destroyed--the one in the diary and the one  in
the ring. Why wouldn't he mention the destruction of this third one?
 
Julie 


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From juli17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 24 02:34:58 2005
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:34:58 EDT
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
Message-ID: <14.49ce4929.30145852@aol.com>

Mary wrote:

>> Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)

As more and more young  (under age 10) children are finishing book 
6, I am having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal with some very upset children. 

Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who 
is 14, says he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old girl just looks at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling at everyone about it. <<
 

I don't know if it would help, but I would remind them that it's a story. I do realize kids don't always see the distinction (heck, we adults don't always see the distinction since we can care about fictional characters almost as much as real people!)
 
I would also tell them that appearances can be deceiving, especially
in Harry Potter. Dumbledore is a very powerful wizard, and I don't  believe for a minute he wasn't directing his own destiny. (And, yes, I am a believer that Snape did what Dumbledore asked, and is on the side of good, though not everyone holds that position). Dumbledore himself said that death was just the next big adventure, and he had no fear of it. I would emphasize to children that fact, and that Dumbledore will continue to exist in his own way, and I'm sure he will be there again in one way or another when Harry needs him.
 
Hope that helps, 

Julie 









From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 24 04:02:22 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 24 Jul 2005 04:02:22 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1122177742.491.8957.m35@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 24, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul 24 04:14:21 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:14:21 -0000
Subject: Sherry waiting line, Shaun teaching literacy, TONKS, KREACHUR
Message-ID: <dbv4it+ct6g@eGroups.com>

SHERRY wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/28212 :

<< i have other disabilities, more than just my blindness, than cause
me to experience a lot of pain if I have to stand for too long. They
told me there wouldn't be any standing in line, that they were giving
away numbers starting at 7, and then they'd take people in groups of
50. So, I met my friend there at 7 to get the number, go to dinner and
just hang out till midnight. Well, there was a huge line to get the
numbers! Should have thought of that, shouldn't I? >>

I brought my own chair, a small portable folding one with a small
totebag (advertised as just the right size for a sixpacK).

SHAUN, how can being a literacy teacher help you be assigned to the
exceptionally gifted students? Aren't the exceptionally gifted
students the ones who've already taught themselves to read and have
read everything in the local library?

Hey, TONKS_OP, it looks like you were right about Lupin would get a
young, fun-loving wife because he represents the Grey King. I don't
recall if you were one of the ones who said that Lupin's love interest
would be Tonks. 

Of course I'm not happy about it.

*Why* did She have those DD & raspberry jam, Arthur & Molly scenes to
establish identity verification questions, and then never have anyone
verify, much less suspect, anyone's identity in the rest of the book,
no matter how OOC they were acting? I remain irritated at the Tonks
red herring -- I really thought she was someone else using Polyjuice
and THAT was why the imposter couldn't metamorphmage like she can; JKR
can make excuses for her gloominess and loss of abilities, but WHERE
DID HER CLUMSINESS GO? Tonks can't walk down the hall at 12 Grimmauld
Place without tripping over an unbrella stand and wakening Mrs Black,
but she can jump off a moving train at Hogsmeade and land on her feet?

Can some combination of SAD DENIAL and WOLFSTAR result in 'Tonks' is
Sirius using Polyjuice?

Where did Kreachur go (and what did he do there) when Harry yelled:
"Get out of it!" at him and he immediately Disapparated? It SHOULD
have occured to someone to wonder!





From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Sun Jul 24 04:45:37 2005
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:45:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: Sherry waiting line, Shaun teaching literacy, TONKS, KREACHUR
In-Reply-To: <dbv4it+ct6g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <42E3A991.26059.10E6D7EF@localhost>

On 24 Jul 2005 at 4:14, Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) wrote:

> SHAUN, how can being a literacy teacher help you be assigned to the
> exceptionally gifted students? Aren't the exceptionally gifted
> students the ones who've already taught themselves to read and have
> read everything in the local library?

That's not at all uncommon, but it's by no means universal. While 
most gifted children do read a lot, it's possible for a gifted child 
to be a reluctant reader, and it's also possible for a child to be 
gifted and learning disabled at the same time, and depending on the 
disability, that can impact their reading. Most teachers aren't 
trained to deal with these issues.

Even if you've got gifted kids though who have taught themselves to 
read, and who are reading considerably above what is normal for their 
age level, that can introduce all sorts of educational problems - 
what do you give a six year old who is technically speaking reading 
at a ninth grade level? Would you give her the same books that ninth 
graders read? Just because the child has the ability to read at that 
level, doesn't mean all the books written at that level are going to 
be suitable for them emotionally (some gifted kids are also advanced 
emotionally, many are not). In these cases, literacy teachers coming 
from a gifted perspective have a great deal to do.

I was a profoundly gifted child myself, and I taught myself to read 
when I was about eighteen months old. I was reading novels at age two 
- only things like Enid Blyton's Faraway Tree books, nothing 
particularly sophisticated, but that's the type of thing I was 
reading. By the time I got to school at five, I was already reading 
at the level of a high school student. My teachers were utterly 
unequipped for that - they expected me to read the same books every 
other child in the class was reading. It was not an easy thing to 
deal with. The teachers simply weren't equipped to deal with a child 
like me. Even when I got teachers who were used to extending kids, 
they were used to giving them books two years above age level - not 
eight. I have vivid memories of my Grade 1 teacher - a nun - turning 
purple and pink - when I asked her what 'masturbate' meant - she'd 
given me the Chocolate War to read, not knowing anything about its 
content except that it was set at a Catholic school.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From juli17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 24 05:24:53 2005
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:24:53 EDT
Subject: Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <1f0.406df6e9.30148025@aol.com>





Luckdragon:
I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how  we are all feeling 
about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of  book 7. Just 
for fun:

1) Is Dumbledore truly  dead?
Yes, I'm afraid Dumbledore is off on his next great adventure.



2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
No, I don't. There were two many inconsistencies leading to and
involving that scene that point to things not being what they seem.
I believe Snape is still 100% Dumbledore's man. 



3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red  herring?
They're a real couple, which is a nice thing :-)



4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
I'm sure Snape's mother loved him. I wouldn't make any bets on
Snape's father loving him though. As for anyone else, I don't know.
And Snape definitely loved someone, I'm just not sure who. But
I'm suspecting more and more that the object of his affections
was Lily. Oh, and Snape seems to care for Draco, and I think
currently (in Book 6) he loves Dumbledore--as a mentor and
father figure--as much as he is able to love anyone (and since 
Dumbledore pretty much loves everyone to some degree, even
poor Tom Riddle, the feeling is returned). 



5) Will any of the trio die?
No. That would be too traumatic for me, and for the children 
devoted to Harry Potter books. 



6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
I think so. 



7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book  7?
I think they all will, except perhaps Harry. And even Harry 
will at least show up there from time to time, I suspect.



8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
I don't think so, because Harry would have to be destroyed
to get rid of the horcrux, and we certainly don't want that!



9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's  memories?
I think he just wasn't there at those times. 



10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book  7?
Voldemort of course. And probably Severus Snape, right after he
redeems himself completely. I even predict Harry will feel a  pang
of remorse--but only a pang ;-) I also think one or two Order 
members will die, because it will be a nasty war after all. 



11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
A bit perhaps. I suspect DD will help in more in other forms, 
and through Fawkes. 



12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
Headmistress of Hogwarts and loyal Order member.



13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed  to?
Yes. He has said he will, and even more importantly, so has JKR,
and JKR is the one with the real power in the WW ;-)



14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
The OoTP never disbanded as far as I know. I think the DA 
will probably reform though, and both will help Harry. 



15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Maybe. I'm going to guess he may do so unintentionally, since
Wormtail hasn't really show a moment of courage or remorse
that I can recall.



16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from  Azkaban?
Probably, because I suspect we'll see Lucius Malfoy again. But
he better be watching his back, from both sides!



17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book  7?
He'll try, but Dobby will counter his every attempt. 



18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers  eyes"?
This one is still a bit of a mystery to me. I don't think Harry
sees the world the way his mother did, since he's lost way too
much innocence for that. JKR has really kept this revelation
under wraps. I imagine I'll be surprised at the answer. 



19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's  Hollow?
 
No. Snape had already confessed his sins to Dumbledore by
then. I do think he may have shown up after LV finished, and
he was the one who had baby Harry for those missing 24 hours.
What he did to or for Harry during that time I don't know. But
it fits together so well that Snape's and Harry's fates have  
been intertwined almost as strongly as Voldemort and Harry, 
even though they never laid eyes on each other again until 
Harry entered Hogwarts. 
 
Julie 


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From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul 24 05:29:40 2005
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:29:40 -0000
Subject: Shaun teaching literacy
In-Reply-To: <42E3A991.26059.10E6D7EF@localhost>
Message-ID: <dbv904+u030@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...>
wrote:

<<  My teachers were utterly  unequipped for that - they expected me
to read the same books every other child in the class was reading. >>

My brother was sent to the principal's office for reading Treasure
Island concealed behind his assigned See Dick And Jane Run.





From nickel313 at yahoo.com.au  Sun Jul 24 05:11:57 2005
From: nickel313 at yahoo.com.au (nickel313)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:11:57 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbv7ut+ne08@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon wrote:
I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
for fun:

Now Nickel (me): Great idea! Here are my answers...

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
Nickel -- I think he is truly dead.

2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
Nickel -- I am still clinging to my hope that Snape isn't ESE and 
that Dumbledore's trust in him was not a mistake. So, I have to 
believe that Snape did not betray Dumbledore.

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
Nickel -- Lupin is one of my favourite characters so I hope that 
they are really a couple - I want him to have some happiness!

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
Nickel -- I think his Mother loved him. I also think he may have had 
some feelings for Lily or Narcissa (these may not necessarily have 
been romantic feelings but maybe friendship or some kind of respect).

5) Will any of the trio die?
Nickel -- I don't think so. At least, I hope not.

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
Nickel -- Yes. After all, isn't love the most powerful magic and if 
Harry denies himself that, he is not doing himself any favours.
 
7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
Nickel -- I don't think they will return as students but they may 
return in their search for the horcruxes.

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
Nickel -- At the moment I say No... but I have read some really 
interesting posts by people about the subject so I may change my 
opinion of this at some point. 
 
9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
Nickel -- Fawkes isn't always with Dumbledore.
 
10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
Nickel -- Maybe Hagrid and Snape but I really have no idea.

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
Nickel -- I think it may be able to give him some more answers about 
things but I don't really know that limitations on what the 
portraits can do.

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
Nickel -- She will keep Hogwarts open and continue educating young 
wizards. She will also remain a loyal member of the OotP.

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
Nickel -- He will return there for a little while - I think there 
are still some questions about the Dursleys that need to be answered.

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
Nickel -- The OotP will continue to exist and work with Harry 
against Voldemort and the Death Eaters. I don't think the DA will 
reform, but I think Neville and Luna will continue to fight in some 
way.

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Nickel -- Yes. I think that a situation will arise in which he will 
need to do something to help Harry. 

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
Nickel -- Probably. 

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
Nickel -- I don't think Kreature will ever help Harry.
 
18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
Nickel --

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
Nickel -- I think he was at Godric's Hollow, but not necessarily 
there helping LV. If he was already working for Dumbledore and truly 
felt sorry that he had alerted LV to the existance of the prophecy, 
he may have been there trying to help the Potters. 









From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jul 24 09:09:10 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:09:10 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dbvlrm+2prk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all 
feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?   Yes.  The portait on the wall of 
his office proves it IMO!
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?  Yes.  No.  Yes.  
(That's as far as I've got in one week!!!)
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?  
Really a couple.
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?   His mother loved him.
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?   I hope not, I don't think I could 
stand it!
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?  I think so if they are both alive 
after the defeat of LV.
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?  Not 
as students (I'm really sad about this so if I'm wrong - hurrah!!)
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?    No.
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?   He wasn't 
there at those times.  He didn't go around with him on his shoulder!
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?   Any 
or all of them!
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry?  I expect so, maybe 
by helping Harry talk through Harry's own thoughts to pick out the 
relevant bits.
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?  Quite minor I 
think.  Maybe she will allow Harry into Hogwarts to speak to DD's 
portrait when the Ministry have banned him or something similar, but 
I don't think she'll be prominant or in the thick of any battle 
(unless the final battle actually takes place inside Hogwarts).
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?  Yes 
I'm really hoping that as he leaves, Aunt Petunia takes him to one 
side and whispers "Be careful" or something that indicates that she 
is concerned about him.
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?  I think the OotP 
will continue with a new leader (possibly Mad-Eye) anyway and they 
will assist Harry as much as they can.  I think the DA is gone - 
only Neville and Luna answered the call this time and I think they 
will do likewise in 7.
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?  If it is something that you 
HAVE to do - like if you break the unbreakable vow you die - then 
yes, but if it's just an honour thing then No.  He has no honour.
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?  Highly 
likely
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?  He 
will be forced to obey Harry's commands, but I'm not sure that he 
will feature prominantly.
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?  I think 
that the reflection charm (or whatever it was) that deflected LV's 
AK when he was one was transferred into Harry's eyes by his mother 
from her own eyes.  I think it's a charm she invented and she 
sacrificed herself by transferring it to Harry.
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?  I definitely 
think he was there and based on the fact that I'm going through 
a 'Yes' phase to Q2, I'll say Yes to this too!

Karen





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 24 15:02:04 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 24 Jul 2005 15:02:04 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1122217324.31.24135.m32@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 24, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 15:56:06 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:56:06 -0000
Subject: Shaun teaching literacy
In-Reply-To: <dbv904+u030@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc0dmm+9gsc@eGroups.com>

Message 28395 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at w...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" 
<drednort at a...>
> wrote:
> 
> <<  My teachers were utterly  unequipped for that - they expected me
> to read the same books every other child in the class was reading. >>
> 
> My brother was sent to the principal's office for reading Treasure
> Island concealed behind his assigned See Dick And Jane Run.

*****\(@@)/*****

Now that is truly sad. I know that in my grade school (50s and early 
60s) they just were not equipped to deal with gifted children. I was 
relegated to the back of the room so I would not be a disruption. One 
time, because I refused to participate in a group history project 
where my fellow students thought it would be great to put all the work 
on me, I was punished by having to do the all of the assignment by 
myself. Joke was on them because at least I got all the credit for all 
the work I did! (and my work WAS better then the group I had been a 
part of!) I will say the librarians I dealt with throughout my 
childhood seemed to be the most understanding and helpful (way more 
than any teacher I encountered) - I was reading in the adult book 
stacks long before my peers and every time the bookmobile came to my 
neighborhood the librarian had a big stack of books she picked out for 
me. I still get angry when I see people with the attitude that smart 
kids should "dumb it down" just to fit in........

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****







From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul 24 16:02:09 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:02:09 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc0e21+p7p7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
Mm, I think so in my heart of hearts, but as harry is a Dumbledore's 
man I feel his spirit will live on - maybe there will be a  
reappearance in a kind of altered state, or he will have left 
important memories for Harry to view in a Pensieve ... we can't just 
say he's gone and that's it.
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
No.  I think there was some kind of bargain struck, maybe he was in 
an unbreakable vow and he knew he was going to die anyway, but Snape 
had to give the final fatal blow.  I cannot really reconcile the fact 
that DD had so much unwavering trust in him with him betraying him 
apparently so badly - there is definitely more to it.
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
Oh yes, I think they make a lovely couple - they'll be good together
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
Well in my fanfic ... I'm sure Lily might figure somewhere in his 
heart.  the denoument of the entire tale will come down to love 
conquering all, so there must be someone for Sev
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?
I don't think so - I hope not
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
Yes, because love will conquer all - see above answer
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
Hermione will use the library for research, and Ron and Hermione will 
use the astronomy tower for secret assignations.  Hogwarts will 
figure in book 7, but not as much as previous books
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
Ohh, I thought of that too, but maybe its a bit obvious.  If Harry 
died than so would part of Voldy, but if harry lived then so would 
part of Voldy - its a lose/lose situation isn't it?  Jo loves those 
kind of dilemmas.  maybe Harry will come to that conclusion 
erroneously and kill himself to save the wizarding world - so scrap 
answer five - Harry dies.
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
Not important to the memories
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
Draco or another Malfoy, Bella and Neville
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
Yes, and the memories from the Pensieves see above
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
She will be the voice of reason and caution that Hermione will listen 
to and everyone else will ignore
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
Yes, and then relish leaving them and packing his bags for Grimmauld 
Place while he embarks on a huge restoration project on Godric's 
Hollow.  He will get a grant from the local council and start a 
restaurant there
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
OotP are still together aren't they?  Dumbledore's army will be the 
Hogwart's support for the trio in their quest for the Horcruxes
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Shouldn't think so for a minute, but he'll definitely die in the 
process of running away - I predict an Avada Kedavra in the back
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
Probably, but my gut instinct is that many will turn their back on 
Voldy when it comes to the crunch
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
Hinder mostly, but then turn up trumps (or dead) in the end and Harry 
will mount his head and have it above the feature fireplace in the 
new restaurant
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
They're green
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
Maybe not intentionally.

I haven't thought much about these answers, or read what anyone else 
has put - they are my gut instincts and may change when I reread HBP 
again.
Sarah xx





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 16:53:15 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Helping Muggle children ...Waking Albus Dumbledore
In-Reply-To: <1e8.3faea24d.301422b4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20050724165315.39934.qmail@web51601.mail.yahoo.com>

Mary wrote:

As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, I am  
having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal with some very  
upset children. 

Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? 
 
 
Kemper now:
 
JKR has given parents everywhere an opportunity to address Death with their kids.  
There have been good suggestions made.  I would add throwing a wake into the mix.  
 
At the wake everyone can draw, talk, write, about a man who's been in some people's lives for a few years.  After every art display, story, or reading, Albus can be toasted with quality rootbeer, gingerale, or sparkling cider.  The art and writing can be displayed in a small area in the house for some established period of time. (Too long a time period is not moving past the grief, too little is not validating the grief)  There can be a small ritual taking it down later.
 
Just an idea.  
 
Kemper

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From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 24 16:54:58 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:54:58 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <410-220057024165458323@earthlink.net>

Chancie:
>
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

Hard to say...I would have to say yes, but I'm not completely sure
yet... I wouldn't be overly surprised if he did turn up in some way
in book 7.  Wouldn't be funny if Harry freaked out, and thought it
was some one in Poly-Juice, and then DD convinced him he was 
real by telling him that his favorite flavor of jam is Raspberry?

> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
>
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

Definatly real, what perpuse would there be from a fake relationship?

> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

Snape has loved some one I think, who is beyond me...I thought
the comment someone had made about it was his mom was a 
possiblity, but I think JKR was implying *romantic* love, 
or else why would she answer her rumors with "Snape doesn't
have a daughter" I think these two statments can be combined
to Snape did love someone and they had a son, but I could
just be delusional...

> 5) Will any of the trio die?

Not die, but SEVERLY injured.  Perhaps appear to be dead/dieing,
and pull out of it.

> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

100% with out a doubt YES!  Ginny has waited for him
for this many years, Harry was more happy with her than
ever before in his life, and Ginny herself said she didn't
care about the danger.  I feel that Ginny will turn-up somewhere
unexpected, and help save the day...(I know you Ginny-haters
love that idea right?)

> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

YES.  Harry can't go an entire year without being at hogwarts.
He still has to find out why all the ghosts, and Peeves fear the 
Bloody-Baron.  I'm not saying he will be there for the entire
year, but will at least go to investigate clues DD has left behind
for him, unless he's really alive.....

> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

Harry will believe at some point it is, and plan to sacrifice
himself, then discover a way to distroy it without dieing,
or find that it isn't.

> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

Have no idea, I didn't even realize that he wasn't there until
I read this... Perhaps he was keeping watch on dd's orders?

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

>From the Order:
Hagrid.  I think it's too odd that in alchemy there is a 
Black, White, and Red stage, and in the last 2 books 
it has followed in that order.  Sirius Black, 
Albus Dumbledore, Rubius Haggrid, make since to 
the order.  Unless someone knows of another person
who's name can be translated into "RED" 

And of course Voldemort will HAVE to die, or there
will have been no point to the story if the bad guy
lives.... Right?

> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Erm...Hard to say...I was wondering why Harry didn't
try to comunicate with the portrait when in the Headmaster's
office.  I think Harry will at least make an attempt at it.

> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

Perhaps she will attempt to take up the role of 
leader of the Order of the Pheonix.  But I personally
would Prefer Lupin to be in that role, since Harry is
too young and he's one of the few left from the original
order.  There is always Mad-Eye too, but could you imagine
what taking orders from him would be like?

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

Yes, and I think it will be funny for Ron and Hermione 
to come allong as the promised, could you imagine the 
look on the Dursley's faces when Harry comes home
with 2 other wizards to stay?

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

I think they will be very conserned as to what he and DD
were doing and why he won't tell anyone so they can help.
Molly, Author, and Lupin, may even be a little hurt that 
he won't confide in them.  I also think that the order will
spend alot of time hiding Harry, Ron and Hermione's 
disaperances from the Ministry.

> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

YES, without a doubt!

> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Yes, just before the final battle.

> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

Well, since he is forced to follow Harry's orders, he will have
too, just as long as Harry is very specific so that Krecher can't
find a loop-hole.  I also wouldn't be surprised if Dobby turned
up to ask Harry to work for him since DD's dead.  

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

This I'm still unsure about.  I can only assume it will end up
being something relating to Love. ( not that it's very original,
but it's the best I've got)

> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

I think I would have to say yes.


Chancie





From rgmcf at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 17:22:42 2005
From: rgmcf at yahoo.com (Rod McFadden)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Book & Survey
In-Reply-To: <1122204043.1080.82123.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050724172242.69448.qmail@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
Snape probably loved his mother, or he would not have honored her by declaring himself the "Half-Blood Prince." I'm still a little curious about why he chose to do this, unless it was just something he did as a snivelly teenager to boost his own self-esteem and just nursed it along with his other grudges all these years.


JKR answered this in her interview with Mugglenet/Leaky.  As soon's I find the link I'll post it.  Quick answer, AIR, 'no.'

May I also point out that it's unlikely JKR posted Kingsley Shackbolt in the Muggle PM's office just to give Fudge a throwaway line.

		
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 17:26:04 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:26:04 -0000
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6
In-Reply-To: <1e8.3faea24d.301422b4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dc0ivc+lsno@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at a... wrote:
> As more and more young (under age 10) children are finishing book 6, 
> I am having to explain, help understand, soothe, and otherwise deal 
> with some very upset children. 
>  
> Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle this? My son, who is 14,
> says he can't talk about it because he is too upset. A ten year old 
> girl just looks at me and cries. A 9 year old boy is angry and yelling
> at everyone about it. 
>  
> ---Mary

bboyminn:

First and foremost, I think it's important to tell kids that it's OK
to feel the way they feel; it's OK to grieve. What I do not recommend
is that you say things like "it's just a book". That, in essense, says
that it's NOT OK to feel what they feel. The worst thing you can do is
invalidate their feelings.

Then I think it is important to remind them that Dumbledore didn't
fear death. He understood that death was a part of life; you can't
have one without the other, and to remind them of Dumbledore's and
Harry's words in the book. Dumbledore said, 'death is but the next
great adventure', but also that 'those we love never truly leave us,
we carry them in our hearts' (paraphrased), 'I will never be gone from
Hogwarts as long as there remain those who are loyal to me', and a few
more things that escape me at the moment.

I think it is OK to remind them that Dumbledore lived nearly twice as
long as a normal human, and remind them of the rich full life he lead,
and of the contributions he made to the world. I think it is also OK
to remid them that it is Voldemort who fears death, and that is a
truly limiting thing. Then, I think it is important to remind them of
Harry, who despite all the resistance he faces in life, he still
chooses to live; he still chooses to move forward determine to life
and love to the fullest that life will allow.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 17:42:56 2005
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:42:56 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat
In-Reply-To: <1122217324.31.24135.m32@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc0jv0+n6k1@eGroups.com>

Hey Everyone!  

If for any reason you cannot get into Chat on our main list( 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat ), we will be 
hosting a Y!M conference, as we did with the release last week.  So 
if you cannot get into Chat, and have Yahoo Messenger, I am signed 
on as HPFGU_Chat.  Send me a message and I'll invite you to 
conference.

Let me know if you've got questions.

Also, I'm re-posting Petra's instructions on how to do this from 
last week:


*********************************************************

If you are able to access the chat room at the main list
( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat ),
please feel free to continue to use it. If you are unable to
access chat at main list but *does* have Yahoo!Messenger
installed (available at http://messenger.yahoo.com ) read
on. :)

So, please bear with us list elves as we try this new work-
around. Stay tuned to OTC because I'm sure we'll be
tweaking the following. What you need to do:

USE THE CONFERENCE FEATURE IN Y!MESSENGER

1. everyone interested in chatting via Y!Messenger add
this ID, HPfGU_Chat, to their list of friends

2. whenever you wish to chat with other HPfGU list members,
sign in as yourself and see if HPfGU_Chat is already online
(see note *)

3. send a YM to HPfGU_Chat and ask to be invited to
conference

But if HPfGU_Chat is not already online or does not respond:

a. check that on your version of Y!Messenger you are
able to invite people to conference first

b. sign in as HPfGU_Chat (password: chitchat; do not log
in under invisible mode!) and wait for someone else to
come online and YM you

c. start a conference and just "invite to conference" as
people YM you; even if there's only two of you, please use
the conference feature when signed in as HPfGU_Chat

* Signing on to Y!Messenger as HPfGU_Chat will log off
whoever is signed in as HPfGU_Chat...*if* someone is
indeed already signed in as HPfGU_Chat. So please sign
in to Y!Messenger as yourself first to make sure no one is
already HPfGU_Chat before signing in as HPfGU_Chat.
But the good thing is, if HPfGU_Chat becomes non-
responsive for whatever reason (what? phones ring...
children and pets require feeding and watering...) it's
easy enough for someone else to take over the task of
adding people to the conference. :)

Ye gads I hope this works...I'm currently signed in as
HPfGU_Chat so YM me if you want an invite to
conference.

:) Penapart Elf, with her fingers crossed!

***************************************************

Aha, an addendum already:

If HPfGU_Chat has to leave the conference, if there's anyone
else left in the conference, they would need to invite
HPfGU_Chat [whoever willing to play the next host(ess)] *back*
into the conference.

In order for that to happen, the person doing the inviting needs
to have that function on their version of Y!Messenger.

Ok, stick a fork in me - I'm done for the night. <g>

:) Penapart Elf
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, HPFGU-
OTChatter at yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
> 
> Weekly Chat 
> 
> Date: Sunday, July 24, 2005 
> Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 
> 
> Hi, everyone!
> 
> Just a reminder: 
> 
> Drop in to Sunday chat! 
> 
> Start time:
> 11 am Pacific
> 12 pm Mountain
> 1 pm Central
> 2 pm Eastern 
> 7 pm UK time 
> 
> Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
> as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
> user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
> the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat
> 
> Hope to see you there!






From kkersey at swbell.net  Sun Jul 24 19:46:39 2005
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:46:39 -0000
Subject: OT list spoiler policy?
Message-ID: <dc0r6v+37ob@eGroups.com>

Has the spoiler policy for this list been officially lifted yet? Just
wondering, because the home page still says it's a spoiler-free zone. 

Doesn't affect me personally, but I'd hate for anyone to get ambushed
with spoilers in a place they were expecting to be safe.

Elisabet






From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 21:05:01 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:05:01 -0000
Subject: Book list
In-Reply-To: <218.559d1b1.3013dd4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dc0vpt+i39e@eGroups.com>

There's a book called Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder. It's a 
wonderful book, where this girl Sophie learns, by mail (not email, 
real mail) about philosophy, and the history of mankind. I read it 
when I was 11 (I think), but it's probably for kids about 14-15.

Juli





From rgmcf at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 01:18:00 2005
From: rgmcf at yahoo.com (Rod McFadden)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <1122164911.2096.81112.m3@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050725011800.57360.qmail@web32014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" for 'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to pronounced "Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to American English!
Rod
 
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:48:58 -0000
From: "Karen Barker" 
Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" wrote:
> Thanks to Harry, Amerispeak and Britspeak are growing ever closer together. I now put a jumper on when it's cold, I lift the bonnet to check the oil, and I like looking for boot sales on weekends. 

Ah! You mean you like looking for boot sales at weekends!!! 
Similarly you would give presents at Christmas not on Christmas, but you might do your food shopping on Tuesdays!
Sorry couldn't resist translating into Britspeak!!
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 25 01:44:15 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:44:15 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <20050725011800.57360.qmail@web32014.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dc1g5f+4erp@eGroups.com>


I now own both the Scholastic and Bloombury editions.  As an 
American, I thought the use of "bathroom" as a generic word for any 
room with a toilet was pretty unique to us.  It's been some time 
since I last read them, but I believe past Bloomsbury editions used 
the word "toilet" as in the third floor girls' toilet when referring 
to Moaning Myrtle, etc.  The HBP however uses the 
Americanism "bathroom".  What gives?  Are the Brits likewise adding 
more American terms to their vocabulary courtesy of Harry Potter?

Loo, can, john, c*apper, w.c. - I think the meaning is clearly 
understood either side of the pond.  :-)

Joe



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Rod McFadden <rgmcf at y...> 
wrote:
> I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" 
for 'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to 
pronounced "Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to 
American English!
> Rod
>  
> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:48:58 -0000
> From: "Karen Barker" 
> Subject: Another Britspeak need some help WAS Re: Peeling Sprouts?
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" wrote:
> > Thanks to Harry, Amerispeak and Britspeak are growing ever 
closer together. I now put a jumper on when it's cold, I lift the 
bonnet to check the oil, and I like looking for boot sales on 
weekends. 
> 
> Ah! You mean you like looking for boot sales at weekends!!! 
> Similarly you would give presents at Christmas not on Christmas, 
but you might do your food shopping on Tuesdays!
> Sorry couldn't resist translating into Britspeak!!
> Karen==
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From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 02:04:02 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:04:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dc1g5f+4erp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050725020403.69034.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Joe Bento  wrote:

Loo, can, john, c*apper, w.c. - I think the meaning is clearly 
understood either side of the pond.  :-)


Rod McFadden wrote:

I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" 
for 'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to 
pronounced "Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to 
American English!
> Rod

 
Lynn:
 
Don't forget cloakroom which apparently is a toilet on the ground floor or, as Americans would say, a half bath.
 
Also, I thought chuffed meant happy about something.  The way it's used here appears that it isn't a positive thing or am I just reading the rest of the sentence wrong?
 
 


 

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From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 25 02:31:58 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:31:58 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <20050725020403.69034.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dc1iuu+29c0@eGroups.com>

Back in my primary school days at a parochial school in the San 
Francisco Bay Area, the cloakroom was a hall-like room at the rear 
of the classroom with a door at either end.  This was where we hung 
our uniform coats or sweaters and stored our lunches.  No toilets in 
this room - they were outside the classroom, and down the hall. You 
had better have a hall pass or else suffer the rath of a prefect 
escorting you to Mother Superior.

Heh... thinking back now, Professor Snape is rather charming in 
comparison to some of the nuns who taught at my school.

Joe



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...> 
wrote:
> Joe Bento  wrote:
> 
> Loo, can, john, c*apper, w.c. - I think the meaning is clearly 
> understood either side of the pond.  :-)
> 
> 
> Rod McFadden wrote:
> 
> I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" 
> for 'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to 
> pronounced "Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to 
> American English!
> > Rod
> 
>  
> Lynn:
>  
> Don't forget cloakroom which apparently is a toilet on the ground 
floor or, as Americans would say, a half bath.
>  
> Also, I thought chuffed meant happy about something.  The way it's 
used here appears that it isn't a positive thing or am I just 
reading the rest of the sentence wrong?
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
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From marilynpeake at cs.com  Mon Jul 25 03:15:49 2005
From: marilynpeake at cs.com (Marilyn Peake)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:15:49 -0000
Subject: Totally Off-Topic: An Invitation
Message-ID: <dc1lh5+a132@eGroups.com>

Hi, everyone,

I'm a regular member of this group, although I haven't posted 
recently - I'm still reading The Order of the Phoenix, and am trying 
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From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 03:59:57 2005
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:59:57 -0000
Subject: Unanswered Dursley Questions
In-Reply-To: <dbuomk+caju@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc1o3t+htr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
wrote:
> The Half-Blood Prince was certainly a shocker, adding as many 
> questions to the queue as were answered.
> 
> Am I the only one that wished there was a bit more dialog about the 
> Dursleys - Petunia in particular.  Back in OotP, when Harry arrives 
> home with Dudley following the Dementor attack, Petunia dropped the 
> bomb when Vernon asked what the ruddy hell dememtors were.  Petunia 
> blurts out that they guard the wizard prison, Azkaban.  Harry was 
> obviously as shocked by this statement as learning Mrs Figg was a 
> witch.
> 
> For someone who hates the wizarding world as much as the Dursleys, 
> that's a rather trivial piece of information to retain for so many 
> years.
> 
> Do we just accept the fact that Petunia has some basic 
understanding 
> of the wizarding world because her sister was a witch, or is there 
> more to this woman than we've been led to believe?
> 
> I'm also trying to understand Dumbledore's statement of how 
> important it is that Harry return to Number 4 Privet drive before 
he comes of age.  Is this to protect Harry, or the Dursleys?  When 
> Harry does come of age, the protection spell apparently no longer 
> works.  What danger does this put the Dursleys in?
> 
snip
> 
> Joe

Doddie here:

  I wish there had been more dialog but the fact that there was not 
and what was spoken speaks more than not...

Petunia was not only the hope for not only Dudley, but for Harry too..

If she could not raise Harry with love then neither could she raise 
Dudley as such(something Dumbledore did not count on)...and she does 
a grave disservice to both with this inability. However Harry obtains 
his love from other sources--the memories of his mother that DD give 
him...the memories of his father Sirius gives him--and the memory of 
both that Lupin gives him...and his friendships over the years.

Dudley has no future. I do not even see him succeeding in his 
father's shoes..(which by this point Harry has already surpassed his 
own father's shoes--evidence is Harry's reactions to his father's 
behavior--Harry sees it and chooses to do otherwise!)

The only people who have set boundaries for Dudley thus far have been 
Hagrid, Harry, and George and Fred!

The fact that Petunia didn't ignore it, lent the fact that; Petunia 
does indeed believe that the magical world exists(she fears her son 
will be a wizard)...All these years she's probably given Harry house 
room so Vernon, Dudders, and herself can be safe, yet she treats 
Harry like Poo on her shoe..(why would she decide otherwise after all 
these years--and given what sort of folks they are why would they 
even take Harry in if not for their own best intrests...I oft wonder 
if DD gave them Harry's scholarship money!)

I hope Harry makes pig tails grow out of all of them before he 
leaves....ones that could be surgically removed--but grow back again 
and again and again!!

To put the Dursley protections question into play---one must parallel 
Dudley's and Harry's experience...then make them swap places numerous 
times to imagine how they would act/react...

Harry come out ahead every time IMO.

DD says Harry must return one last time..Dd says to protect Harry..I 
say to protect Harry's blood line..

I really hope Hermione and Ron show up there...I'm sure they'd give 
the Dursleys a run for their money just normal folk having a good 
time.

My guess is that Voly will kill the durseleys if they don't listen to 
Harry and he will try to save them..

OMG--horribe thought....final battle at the Dursleys! (Is this why DD 
was so kind to them?!??)

I dunno just my thoughts on the matter,
Doddie

(who would like to see a page or two of Dudley and Snape 
interactions.)





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 25 04:02:15 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:02:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6
 (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <dbureu+naf2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IK600BIN0JQMJ9A@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Amis]:
| Basically it just says to give kids a safe place 
| where they 
| can talk about their feelings. As for kids who are too upset to talk 
| about it, they may need to write. I'm not good at putting 
| things in to 
| verbal langauge, but I always feel better after I write my feelings 
| down.

[Lee]:
Another tack is drawing for those kids who don't like to write or have a
hard time with writing; pictures can say a whole lot.  Then, discuss the
pictures with them...And, not only the drawings, but the colors, shading,
the whole piece.

Another thing is to get kids to find a song or piece of music that best
reflects what they feel.

The "safe place" environ is an absolute must!  And that holds true not only
for HBP, but, IMHO, for things in RL, too; there's been so much grief and
death and such lately that feeling safe is hard to do, especially for kids,
I'm sure.

[Amis continues]:
| - Amie, who's mom commited the one major error the article 
| said parents 
| shouldn't do. Tell kids "it's just a book". It makes you feel worse, 
| trust me.

[Lee]:
It also trivializes them and their feelings.  But, very important, try to
get them drawing the lines between what is RL and what is not.  Perhaps use
the book and try to see what in RL they fear and liken to the book.  Does
that make sense?

Gotta stop here; I've got one hand in a brace with a pinched nerve, so my
typing is probably less than stellar!  Where's Madam Poppy when you need
her???

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From timregan at microsoft.com  Mon Jul 25 05:40:52 2005
From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:40:52 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Briticisms
Message-ID: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB021BE6F7@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Rod said:
<<<  I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" for
'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to pronounced
"Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to American English!
>>>

Actually it is not changed. In the Bloomsbury UK edition Dumbledore
asks: "No, I was wondering whether I might use your bathroom?" 

In England most bathrooms have a toilet in, so it would not seem unusual
to ask someone where the bathroom was in their house so that you could
use the loo. If they had a room that was just a loo they'd include
directions to that in their answer. However, unlike America, it would be
less common to use the word bathroom outside the home, and we wouldn't
use the word restroom. Brits would be comfortable using the words loo
and toilet in either situation.

Cheers,

Dumbledad

PS "Chuffed" in britspeak means "pleased", is that what you meant?
 



From HMaffioli at cox.net  Mon Jul 25 06:19:10 2005
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:19:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
References: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008301c590e0$c5a62040$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

Luckdragon:
I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
for fun:

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

Yes, but of his own choosing.  He knew he would have to die to force Harry to be the leader he needs to be (see Giles leaving Buffy for an example)

2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

No, Dumbledore was never affriad to die, if he was in fact "pleading" with Snape it was for him to follow through with his promise to kill him.

3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

Yes, of course.

4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

He loved Lily.  When telling Voldemort about the profecy he asked that Voldemort spare her.  When he learned of her death, he truned to Dumbledore with his remorse.

5) Will any of the trio die?

No. Well maybe Harry...

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

I hope so, I hope the prologue has them all living near the burrow and together forever.

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

I was thinking today that maybe the whole explination of Voldemort wanting the teaching job was prepairing us for McGonagal asking Harry to teach DA in ordrer to get him to return to school...probably not but that is where I am right now in my thinking.

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

Maybe, maybe he will have to destroy Voldemort and then himself or the scar some how in order to prevent him from ever returning.

9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

No idea.

10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

Lupin, Percy, and Leucius.

11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Only in that he will be able to be a look out from where ever his other portraits are.

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

Headmistress and council to Harry.

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

Yes, with Ron and Hermione and they may be forced in to hiding at 12 GP. Each year there has been more contact between the Dursleys and Harry's world.  The last straw will be forcing them in to magical protection to keep them from being killed.

14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

Yes, they will become one with Harry as the leader.

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

No.

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Yes

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

He will be forced to continue to help Harry. 

18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

No opinion.

19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

He was not there.  Or if he was he was watching out for Lily and ended up saving Harry accidently.


My question:
20)How will the power to love help Harry defeat Voldemort?

He will be forced to forgive Snape for all that he has done and this will some how aid in Voldemort's defeat.





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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 06:54:50 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:54:50 -0000
Subject: A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
Message-ID: <dc22bq+3940@eGroups.com>

Someone on the other list mentioned some typos and other errors in
HBP, which reminded me of something I've noticed in several books;
missing end quotes (ending double quote marks).

They usually occur in this form... (the text itself is meaningless,
concentrate on the form)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
"Some one is speaking. They talk and talk and talk. They ramble on and
on. Then the paragraph ends. [the end quote is missing]

"Then the next paragraph starts with the same person talking, and the
person talks and talks and talks." [end quote mark is there]

/narrative starts/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

Is this just a random error or is this a valid style of writing?

Just curious.

Steve.bboyminn








From timregan at microsoft.com  Mon Jul 25 07:06:48 2005
From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:06:48 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
Message-ID: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB021BE727@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

Missing the end quotes if the speaker remains talking from one paragraph
to another is how I was taught to write at high school in England. So I
guess it's valid. I'd never thought of it as a Brit' thing, but there
you go.

Cheers,

Dumbledad



From BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 07:12:34 2005
From: BamaJenny12 at yahoo.com (Bamajenny)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:12:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
References: <dc22bq+3940@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004901c590e8$56b45b40$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>

I don't know how valid it is NOW, but back in the dark ages
when I took creative writing, we were taught to use quotation
marks this way. The opening quotation mark came when a person
began speaking (obviously), but the end quotation did not come
until that person was completely finished speaking. If paragraphs
were necessary because of the subject, then quotations to start
the paragraph showed that it was still the same person speaking.
Once that person stopped speaking, the ending quotation marks
were added. 
Jenny
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:54 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing


  Someone on the other list mentioned some typos and other errors in
  HBP, which reminded me of something I've noticed in several books;
  missing end quotes (ending double quote marks).

  They usually occur in this form... (the text itself is meaningless,
  concentrate on the form)

  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
  "Some one is speaking. They talk and talk and talk. They ramble on and
  on. Then the paragraph ends. [the end quote is missing]

  "Then the next paragraph starts with the same person talking, and the
  person talks and talks and talks." [end quote mark is there]

  /narrative starts/
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

  Is this just a random error or is this a valid style of writing?

  Just curious.

  Steve.bboyminn







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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 25 08:17:11 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 04:17:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To:  <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB021BE727@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <0IK600J98CCMDT30@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Dumbledad]:
| Missing the end quotes if the speaker remains talking from 
| one paragraph
| to another is how I was taught to write at high school in 
| England. So I
| guess it's valid. I'd never thought of it as a Brit' thing, but there
| you go.

[Lee]:
That's the way I was taught, too, in the good ol' US. :-)

I think it's just odd to some to see that kind of style, figuring that
whatever is said should probably be held in one paragraph.  Admittedly, I
find it difficult to write multiparagraph quotes...it does look strange to
me. <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee (Who should be asleep, not using her left hand, but...) :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 25 13:05:10 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:05:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To: <dc22bq+3940@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002701c59119$7db63430$0400a8c0@pensive>

That's actually proper, grammatically, if you have more than one paragraph
with the same person speaking.

Sherry


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To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing


Someone on the other list mentioned some typos and other errors in
HBP, which reminded me of something I've noticed in several books;
missing end quotes (ending double quote marks).

They usually occur in this form... (the text itself is meaningless,
concentrate on the form)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
"Some one is speaking. They talk and talk and talk. They ramble on and
on. Then the paragraph ends. [the end quote is missing]

"Then the next paragraph starts with the same person talking, and the
person talks and talks and talks." [end quote mark is there]

/narrative starts/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

Is this just a random error or is this a valid style of writing?

Just curious.

Steve.bboyminn







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From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 25 13:19:06 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:19:06 -0000
Subject: Unanswered Dursley Questions
In-Reply-To: <dc1o3t+htr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc2osa+pkj8@eGroups.com>

Doddie,

Thanks so much for your explanation.  I've read and read the books 
numerous times, and am rereading the HBP for a second time. Having 
someone else's insight realy opens up different areas of 
understanding.

I hadn't considered the importance of Harry returning once more to 
the Dursley household - I hadn't even considered the thought that it 
was as much for protection of the Dursley family as for Harry.  It 
certainly makes one wonder how he might be treated when he does 
return for a final time.

The possibility of the final interaction with Harry and Lord 
Voldermort occuring in the muggle world is most interesting. I had 
always  made an assumption that the final war would occur back in 
Godric's Hollow.  Your message opens new possibilities to ponder.

Dudley / Snape interactions?  I like Snape as a character, but 
rather dislike Dudley.  I do think the two might actually grow to 
like each other in time.  However, I have no doubt that Dudley would 
be in Slytherin if he were a wizard.  Cure the boy of his sniveling -
 which I'm sure Snape would detest - and Dudley would then have 
found the perfect mentor.  And if Dudders were a wizard, he'd 
probably even find the power the Death Eaters have attractive.

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "doddiemoemoe" 
<doddiemoemoe at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe Bento" <joseph at k...> 
> wrote:
> > The Half-Blood Prince was certainly a shocker, adding as many 
> > questions to the queue as were answered.
> > 
> > Am I the only one that wished there was a bit more dialog about 
the 
> > Dursleys - Petunia in particular.  Back in OotP, when Harry 
arrives 
> > home with Dudley following the Dementor attack, Petunia dropped 
the 
> > bomb when Vernon asked what the ruddy hell dememtors were.  
Petunia 
> > blurts out that they guard the wizard prison, Azkaban.  Harry 
was 
> > obviously as shocked by this statement as learning Mrs Figg was 
a 
> > witch.
> > 
> > For someone who hates the wizarding world as much as the 
Dursleys, 
> > that's a rather trivial piece of information to retain for so 
many 
> > years.
> > 
> > Do we just accept the fact that Petunia has some basic 
> understanding 
> > of the wizarding world because her sister was a witch, or is 
there 
> > more to this woman than we've been led to believe?
> > 
> > I'm also trying to understand Dumbledore's statement of how 
> > important it is that Harry return to Number 4 Privet drive 
before 
> he comes of age.  Is this to protect Harry, or the Dursleys?  When 
> > Harry does come of age, the protection spell apparently no 
longer 
> > works.  What danger does this put the Dursleys in?
> > 
> snip
> > 
> > Joe
> 
> Doddie here:
> 
>   I wish there had been more dialog but the fact that there was 
not 
> and what was spoken speaks more than not...
> 
> Petunia was not only the hope for not only Dudley, but for Harry 
too..
> 
> If she could not raise Harry with love then neither could she 
raise 
> Dudley as such(something Dumbledore did not count on)...and she 
does 
> a grave disservice to both with this inability. However Harry 
obtains 
> his love from other sources--the memories of his mother that DD 
give 
> him...the memories of his father Sirius gives him--and the memory 
of 
> both that Lupin gives him...and his friendships over the years.
> 
> Dudley has no future. I do not even see him succeeding in his 
> father's shoes..(which by this point Harry has already surpassed 
his 
> own father's shoes--evidence is Harry's reactions to his father's 
> behavior--Harry sees it and chooses to do otherwise!)
> 
> The only people who have set boundaries for Dudley thus far have 
been 
> Hagrid, Harry, and George and Fred!
> 
> The fact that Petunia didn't ignore it, lent the fact that; 
Petunia 
> does indeed believe that the magical world exists(she fears her 
son 
> will be a wizard)...All these years she's probably given Harry 
house 
> room so Vernon, Dudders, and herself can be safe, yet she treats 
> Harry like Poo on her shoe..(why would she decide otherwise after 
all 
> these years--and given what sort of folks they are why would they 
> even take Harry in if not for their own best intrests...I oft 
wonder 
> if DD gave them Harry's scholarship money!)
> 
> I hope Harry makes pig tails grow out of all of them before he 
> leaves....ones that could be surgically removed--but grow back 
again 
> and again and again!!
> 
> To put the Dursley protections question into play---one must 
parallel 
> Dudley's and Harry's experience...then make them swap places 
numerous 
> times to imagine how they would act/react...
> 
> Harry come out ahead every time IMO.
> 
> DD says Harry must return one last time..Dd says to protect 
Harry..I 
> say to protect Harry's blood line..
> 
> I really hope Hermione and Ron show up there...I'm sure they'd 
give 
> the Dursleys a run for their money just normal folk having a good 
> time.
> 
> My guess is that Voly will kill the durseleys if they don't listen 
to 
> Harry and he will try to save them..
> 
> OMG--horribe thought....final battle at the Dursleys! (Is this why 
DD 
> was so kind to them?!??)
> 
> I dunno just my thoughts on the matter,
> Doddie
> 
> (who would like to see a page or two of Dudley and Snape 
> interactions.)





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 14:43:17 2005
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The MLA Handbook was RE: A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To: <dc22bq+3940@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050725144317.53070.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com>

Steve.bboyminn asked a question that addressed the proper use of quotation marks.
 
Many answered that the particular use of q. marks in question was how they learned, both Brits and Americans.
 
For any other writing mechanic questions, go the bible: The MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers.  It sounds boring but it is a HUGE resource.  You don't need the newest version that address electronic citation (Internet).  An older or  used version works great, and costs less.

 

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 18:13:42 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:13:42 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <20050725020403.69034.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dc3a4m+fvuh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...> 
wrote:
> Joe Bento  wrote:
> Loo, can, john, c*apper, w.c. - I think the meaning is clearly 
> understood either side of the pond.  :-)
> Rod McFadden wrote:
> I'm still a bit chuffed that Scholastic substituted "Bathroom" 
> for 'Loo'.  If JKR can teach three hundred million Americans to 
> pronounced "Hermione", she should have no problem adding 'Loo' to 
> American English!
> > Rod
Lynn:
Don't forget cloakroom which apparently is a toilet on the ground 
floor or, as Americans would say, a half bath.
>  
> Also, I thought chuffed meant happy about something.  The way it's 
used here appears that it isn't a positive thing or am I just reading 
the rest of the sentence wrong?

We use bathroom to describe a room with the bath in (duh!) and the 
toilet for the room with the toilet in.  If you have both in one room 
then it could be called either.  (Because we are IN the toilet - 
meaning the room, not the actual bowl!).  A cloakroom tends to be the 
downstairs loo, with just usually a small sink.  And yes, 'chuffed' 
is a positive word - to be pleased with.  To be 'chuffed to bits' is 
to be absolutely thrilled with something.  Now as I write it, it 
sounds so daft - but hey, that's the English language for you!

Sarah xx






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 25 18:24:52 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:24:52 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dc3a4m+fvuh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IK700CO74HGLO10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Hmm--I thought the term for a room with only a toilet and sink was "water
closet?"  Or is that outmoded?

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Who hates to write one-liners...sorry!)

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From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 18:40:21 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dc3a4m+fvuh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050725184022.95563.qmail@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sarah  wrote:
 
Now as I write it, it 
sounds so daft - but hey, that's the English language for you!


Lynn:
 
On word that sounded so weird to me when used to describe how someone looked/felt was shattered.  That was until someone told me I looked shattered and I realize that it was the best possible word to describe how I was feeling physically.
 
What I find funny is when I find myself using British descriptions for things rather than American.  For example, food now tends to be lovely rather than delicious.


 

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From ladilyndi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 19:00:37 2005
From: ladilyndi at yahoo.com (Ladi lyndi)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:00:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <0IK700CO74HGLO10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <20050725190038.75685.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" wrote:
 
Hmm--I thought the term for a room with only a toilet and sink was "water
closet?"  Or is that outmoded?


Lynn:
 
I think you see that term used mostly on the continent.  In Holland I would always ask for the WC (pronounced there as Vay Say) or look for a WC sign.  Here in England, I look for toilet or loo.  Other differences I've found?  Always carry a variety of change on you when you're in Holland as you'll need it for the WC.  While most attendants are helpful (which is where you'll find the clean toilets), there are those who will tell you they don't have change so you end up paying more or will insist you have to pay twice if you are taking your child to the WC.  
 
I remember on my first trip to Paris I used a pubic toilet.  I had to pay to use the toilet and then had to pay for toilet paper as well.  I learned to carry packets of tissues on me at all times.  LOL


 

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From ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 19:37:55 2005
From: ajhuflpuf at yahoo.com (ajhuflpuf)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:37:55 -0000
Subject: They've started coming in...
Message-ID: <dc3f2j+gi42@eGroups.com>

As a postal clerk, I feel most vexed to handle and sort OTHER 
soldier's HP6 books, which started coming in two days ago, while my 
OWN still isn't among them!  This shows you how random the postal 
service is to places somewhere in Iraq.  (Of course, I already 
unfortunately knew who the half-blood prince is thanks to an 
inadvertent spoiler on this group, so reading 'who is the half-blood 
prince?' on the packages is also vexing...)  At least, I will go track 
down these soldiers in different battalions if mine doesn't get here 
soon!  It's good to know there are several other fans out here among 
these tough military folk. >;-)

A.J.





From azriona at juno.com  Mon Jul 25 12:43:31 2005
From: azriona at juno.com (Sharon)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:43:31 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc2mpj+acqk@eGroups.com>

> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

Yes.  And he's not coming back, either - JKR has publicly said that 
those who die stay dead.  My husband has a theory, though, that DD is 
only "mostly" dead, and really just needs to visit Miracle Max.

> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

I haven't made up my mind yet.  I'd like to think no, but I'm not 
sure.

> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

Yes, they're a couple.  Tonks "changed" him.  *grin*

> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

I think Snape's mom loved him.  And I think Snape really did have a 
thing for Lily.

> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?

I heard this great theory where Harry dies, and it was very well 
done.  I don't think Hermione or Ron will die.

> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

Only if Harry lives.

> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

No.

> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

No.  

> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

Because he wasn't in those particular scenes.  Perhaps DD didn't own 
Fawkes until later.

> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

Voldemort.  Duh.  *grin*

> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Maybe, to give him background information.  But not much else.

> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

I don't think her role will change.

> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursleys as he is supposed to?

Yes.  And he will hopefully talk to Petunia and we'll find out more 
about her because I'm dying to know how she knew about Dementors, and 
what else she knows.

> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

Even if they did, I don't think he'd want to accept it.

> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

No, because it's not a life debt.  At no point does anyone in canon 
call it a life debt - it's known as a wizard's debt, and that does 
not necessarily mean that Peter has to die.  

I do believe Peter will make good on the wizard's debt.

> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Er...didn't they already?  Or are we assuming there are more of 
them?  If there are more, then why didn't they break free already?

> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

Aid, because Harry is his master.  But Kreacher will try to hinder as 
best he can.

> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

Genetics.

> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

No.

--azriona







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 20:03:19 2005
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:03:19 -0000
Subject: A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To: <dc22bq+3940@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc3gi7+dkes@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
> ... something I've noticed in several books; missing end quotes 
> (ending double quote marks).
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> Is this just a random error or is this a valid style of writing?
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> Steve.bboyminn

bboyminn:

Thanks to everyone one for responding; I'm surprised that I got as
many responses as I did.

I don't recall seeing this form in other books though; perhaps I
wasn't paying attention or there weren't that many multi-paragraph
quotes. It seemed very off balance to me, but who am I to judge.

Of course, I couldn't be sure it wasn't just faulty typesetting, but
you all have cleared it up for me. Thanks again.

Steve/bboyminn







From carriemielke at yahoo.ca  Mon Jul 25 17:09:17 2005
From: carriemielke at yahoo.ca (Mielke Carrie)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:09:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <2b8ed015991256996dbd5463640960f7@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20050725170917.34761.qmail@web53409.mail.yahoo.com>


Katherine Coble <k.coble at comcast.net> wrote:

On Jul 23, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Brenda wrote:

> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just
> for fun:
>
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

c:  Yes has to be, Harry needs to do the rest on his own.

>
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
>

c:  No, Dumbledore has always said that death is just a passing into the next adventure. So with him saying "please " to Snape, he accpetable the next phase. 

> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
>

K:  Yes,
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
>

K:  I also believe that Snape loved Lily, but no one has loved Snape. 

> 5) Will any of the trio die?
>

K:  No.


> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
>

K:  Yes, but it won't be a big focus in the book.

> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
>

K:  Hermonie will, Ron will have to as his mother will be very reluctant to let him help Harry. Harry may only to try to get to Dumbledore's pensive.


> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

K:  It could be, and Voldermort may not realise it. 

OR:


>
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
>

K:  Cause he wasn't there.  
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
>

K:  Hagrid, or Lupin. BAsically the next important person in Harry's life. It could be that Voldermort goes after the Dursley's if he should become informed of the protection that Dumbledore placed there,although Harry onle has to back 1 more time.


> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry?
>

K:  Yes, but he will be very restrictive to what he is able to help Harry with.


> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
>

K:  Trying to hold Hogwarts together, I think she ma also interfere with Harry ttrying to get to the pensive, seeing as it may be a danger to Harry as he is looking for the answers to defeat Voldemort.

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?


K:  Yes.  He has to find out Petunia's secret.   I still think that the 
person she overheard telling Lily about the Dementors was Snape, NOT 
James. I agree, but this could also be the deaths in the 7th book. Should he have any family left?

>
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
>

K: Yep.



> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

K:  Of course.   Sacrifical lamb of Voldemort's. He is expendiable. 
>
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
>

K:  Of course.  Don't they always?  Besides, there has to be a showdown 
with Lucius. I wonder if Draco is actually bad? How was he not able to fulfill the request of Voldemort, afterall Draco is all about hating Harry. The showdown could be between father and son? 


> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
>

K:  Both, but any aid will be reluctant.


> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

K:  We saw the significance already with Harry using the resemblance to 
lure Slughorn back to Hogwarts.


>
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
>
>
>

K:  I'm not sure about this particular scene. 




Carrie







From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 20:41:54 2005
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:41:54 -0000
Subject: * Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc3iqi+ocea@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all 
feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?  YES
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?   NO
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?  I 
think that they are a couple.  Hopefully Lupin can find some 
happiness now.
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?   I think that Snape 
had feelings for Lilly.  And when she married James, that was just 
another reason for Snape to hate James more then he did before.  But 
I don't think he wanted Lilly to die and that's why he went to DD.
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?   NO
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?   YES
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?   
YES . . . they will have to go back, manly Harry becasue he will 
have to show others that it is safe, otherwise parents will keep 
their children home and Lord V will have WON another battle. 
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?   NO, ? WHY ?  Becasue Lord V wasn't 
thinking about Horcrux when he was trying to KILL Harry.
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?  Fawkes didn't 
really travel about with DD.  Just around when DD needed him.
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?  That 
is really too hard to call !
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? I really HOPE so !
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?  She will be busy 
with the school, but she will be the one to get Harry & others to 
come back, so that the school dosn'ts close.
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?  
YES, he has already talked about that.
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?  They will need a 
NEW leader but they are not down for the count yet.
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?  YES, becasue DD said that 
was something important.
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?  There 
again, it has happened once before, but I'm hopeing that the ORDER 
is keeping alid on them all.
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?  
Hinder
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"? Too show 
that he just not his father's son.
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?  It looks that 
way.   SAD !

Gail in IND







From Mhochberg at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 20:56:09 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:56:09 EDT
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
Message-ID: <d6.2a69d757.3016abe9@aol.com>

"amis917" _amis917 at hotmail.com_ (mailto:amis917 at hotmail.com)  wrote:
A few  days ago, The Leaky Cauldron Posted this link:

_http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2005/07/21/young_potter_readers_need_
to_talk_grieve/_ 
(http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2005/07/21/young_potter_readers_need_to_talk_grieve/)  
 
I write:
This is a good article. Thanks for posting it
 
"amis917" _amis917 at hotmail.com_ (mailto:amis917 at hotmail.com)   wrote:
I was just thinking, maybe you could make up some kind of survey, with  
questions for the kids to answer. (maybe too much like homework though)  
You could ask about their feelings on different parts of the story not  
just the ending. The rest of the book is filled with love and humor -  
but the end leaves you with a horrible feeling. Maybe by talking about  
the more enjoyable parts of the story (Fred and George's shop, Ron and  
Lavander, Harry and Ginny, etc) it'll make talking about the end 
easier.  I've started rereading the book slowly; it's helping me 
remember the funny  parts of the story.
 
I wrote
This is a great idea. I won't give it to them but having a list  of questions 
and story points to talk about (other than the ending) will relax  them and 
get them talking.
 
My eldest went through something similar to this when, in the last book of  
the Animorphs series, a major character died. She cried for several days and  
still can tear up about it.
 
---Mary



From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 21:06:25 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:06:25 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Unanswered Dursley Questions
Message-ID: <159.559b83b4.3016ae51@aol.com>

I just wanted to put my two cents in ... I like the whole Dursley theory. I 
too was very upset that there was not more interaction with the Dursleys. It is 
quite possible that Harry is there to protect them ... we never know. We also 
know there is still one person who shows signs of magic late in life. It is 
probably Petunia ... wouldn't it be a hoot if it was Vernon? I don't agree that 
Voldy will try to do in the Dursleys , but you never know ... he's a pretty 
sick person.


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From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 21:15:10 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:15:10 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <1a9.3bdaa936.3016b05e@aol.com>

I have a question to add.
When Harry was at Dumbledore's funeral , and he thought he saw a phoenix fly 
out of the white smoke from Dumbledore's grave ( this phoenix not being 
Fawkes) ... is this phoenix somehow part of Dumbledore , and will it aid Harry in 
his quest to destroy Voldemort?

I also have another comment. When Harry was chasing after Snape and Draco , 
full of rage at Snape for killing Dumbledore , all his spells were deflected by 
Snape. This scares me. How is Harry going to defeat Voldemort? Will he have 
to duel with him ? If he does ... perhaps Flitwick will help him there since he 
used to be a dueling champ. I know that he has to destroy all the horcruxes. 
This is also very disturbing. If Dumbledore was injured by destroying the ring 
... and Dumbledore was the greatest wizard of that time ... whose powers 
rivaled Merlin , and when Harry and Dumbledore had to go on that dangerous 
adventure to retain the fake horcrux ... how is Harry going to be able to do this 
without Dumbledore? It is going to be very hard.


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 21:18:16 2005
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:18:16 EDT
Subject: Helping Muggle children handle end of book 6 (spoilers)
Message-ID: <215.57a30aa.3016b118@aol.com>

Thanks to everyone who posted on this thread. Here are the key points and  
ideas that I've come up with.
 
1. Validate their feelings. Don't tell them "it's just a book." 
 
2. Give them a safe place to talk, write, draw, create, make noise/music  
about their feelings.
 
3. Allow them to lead the discussion to real life comparisons. Some of  their 
fear may be "if I feel this bad about a character in a book, how will I  feel 
if someone in my real life dies?"
 
4. Give them time to grieve. They may feel better in a few days but it may  
come back later on, especially when school starts, around Halloween, or when 
the  next movie comes out.
 
5. If your family or school has traditions or rituals for when people or  
pets die, then ask the child if they would like to do them for DD. This can  
include a wake, shrine, planting a tree, composing a song, or creating a Day of  
the Dead altar.
 
6. Rein in my own belief that DD is not dead but is working with Snape. I  
can express my beliefs if they ask about them but I should not attempt to  
convert them to my way of thinking. 
 
7. Have a list of questions or plot points (NOT including the death scene)  
that they can talk about. 
 
Whew! Thank you all so much.
 
---Mary



From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Tue Jul 26 01:15:53 2005
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:15:53 -0700
Subject: It is REALLY annoying...
References: <20050724033538.81076.qmail@web52507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c5917f$926083c0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

when someone tries to kidnap the kid
you're babysitting.

But apparently that's what happened to
Thomas today. I couldn't know, I was
napping (mum was on this shift).

Apparently the boys went to the park
with the dog and while Miles was on the
play set, Thomas decided to go around
the walking path with Clifford. A dark
skinned man came out of the bushes,
grabbed him AND the dog and when Thomas
started screaming his little head off,
covered his mouth.

Now, you know I like to complain about
the 'Terror Twins" but I'm so proud of
Thomas. When he couldn't scream he
kicked and kicked and even bit the
man's hand. The man, apparently
deciding he was too much work, threw
him (and the dog) into the river.
Thankfully both are unharmed and Thomas
just has an amusing story to tell.

The man escaped and police are still
looking for him.

I have an urge to go track down the
gentlemen myself and beat the shit out
of him.

I just did their "Missing Child" DNA
and fingerprint kits, I don't want to
actually use them.  *annoyed face*

Saitaina
****
"You ACCIDENTALLY pointed a camera in
the direction of actors reciting
lines?"

"The new food pyramid looks as if all
you have to do to be healthy in America
is be gay and exercise."

"If you're going to sing in the shower,
don't start with a song that begins
with 'help'."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina


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From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 26 01:42:37 2005
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie )
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:42:37 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It is REALLY annoying...
Message-ID: <410-2200572261423788@earthlink.net>

> when someone tries to kidnap the kid
> you're babysitting.
>
> But apparently that's what happened to
> Thomas today. I couldn't know, I was
> napping (mum was on this shift).
>
> Apparently the boys went to the park
> with the dog and while Miles was on the
> play set, Thomas decided to go around
> the walking path with Clifford. A dark
> skinned man came out of the bushes,
> grabbed him AND the dog and when Thomas
> started screaming his little head off,
> covered his mouth.
>
> Now, you know I like to complain about
> the 'Terror Twins" but I'm so proud of
> Thomas. When he couldn't scream he
> kicked and kicked and even bit the
> man's hand. The man, apparently
> deciding he was too much work, threw
> him (and the dog) into the river.
> Thankfully both are unharmed and Thomas
> just has an amusing story to tell.
>
> The man escaped and police are still
> looking for him.
>
> I have an urge to go track down the
> gentlemen myself and beat the shit out
> of him.
>
> I just did their "Missing Child" DNA
> and fingerprint kits, I don't want to
> actually use them.  *annoyed face*
>
> Saitaina
> ****



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Chancie:

OH MY GOD!  That's AWFUL, but I'm so happy
to hear the little boy is ok!  I think anyone
that would harm a child should be tied to a tree
in the middle of town and everyone should be allowed
to throw bricks at them until they get tired!  There 
are some sick people in this world.  Oh, and if you
find the bastard that grabbed him let me know and 
I'll help you beat him!  





From kkersey at swbell.net  Tue Jul 26 02:27:46 2005
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:27:46 -0000
Subject: A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To: <dc3gi7+dkes@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc4732+959e@eGroups.com>

If y'all don't mind one more post on the subject - I just want to
point out that the rule does make some sense: it really would be
*more* confusing if each paragraph of a lengthy speech by a single
character *did* have both opening and closing quotation marks. A new
paragraph signals a new speaker, so to avoid the ambiguity an author
would have to throw in a lot of extraneous phrases like "he continued"
or such to make clear who was speaking, which could be awkward.

So as weird as leaving the quotation marks off the end of the
paragraph may be, the alternative is worse.

Elisabet






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 26 05:37:46 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:37:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] It is REALLY annoying...
In-Reply-To: <410-2200572261423788@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0IK700GXDZMY73G8@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Interesting that I saw Chancie's reply and haven't seen Saitaina's original
message.  (Thanks, Chancie, for leaving the original intact.) :-)

I truly hope that the authorities find this guy.  I'm sure Tom isn't the
first of his victims and, unfortunately, probably won't be the last.  Of
course, if he was bitten hard enough, he might have to seek treatment for
it??? Hopefully???? And get arrested whilst doing that???

More and more of this seems to be happening, and I get so sickened by it!
There are a lot of very sick people out there who shouldn't be allowed.
<Growl!>

Hopefully, the lad is and will be okay and, praise God, he's a fighter!  Be
sure to give him lots of praise for that!

Hugs,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Tue Jul 26 12:29:31 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:29:31 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <0IK700CO74HGLO10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPKEHLCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Lee :-) asked

Hmm--I thought the term for a room with only a toilet and sink was "water
closet?"  Or is that outmoded?

Cheers,


A previous lister said that was ok on the continent but I've never heard in
Australia and I'd be way surprised if it was common in Britain. It's the
correct term and one used on architect plans etc but not in speech

cheers
storm, why isn't there more time, I have so much to read and I simply must
sleep sometimes!

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From rxtlc at comcast.net  Tue Jul 26 16:34:16 2005
From: rxtlc at comcast.net (Jenn)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:34:16 -0000
Subject: It is REALLY annoying...
In-Reply-To: <000d01c5917f$926083c0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <dc5om8+3k09@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at f...> wrote:
> when someone tries to kidnap the kid
> you're babysitting.
> 
> But apparently that's what happened to
> Thomas today. I couldn't know, I was
> napping (mum was on this shift).

That is really really scary.  I actually looked to see where you were, Saitaina.  Let's hear it for 
Thomas and his fighting!!  
Poppy, who's playing while her little Harry is still napping :)






From briggielockyer at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 17:55:39 2005
From: briggielockyer at yahoo.com (briggielockyer)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:55:39 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc5ter+jhvr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
Unfortunately yes.
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
I am one of those who tries to see the good in everyone so I am 
hoping no, but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is yes.
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
> Definitely a couple.  I think that they are used as an example to 
show Harry that he shouldn't deny his feelings for Ginny.

> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
> I hope that his mother loved him, I also think that Dumbledore 
loved him in a fatherly way.  As far as Snape loving anyone, I love 
the Lily possibility but I am not certain.

> 5) Will any of the trio die?
> I really hope not

> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
>YES!! 
> 
7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
> I think they will.  Harry has answers to find there.

> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
> I don't think so.

> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
> Because he wasn't there in real life.  

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
> Voldermort and I think at least one Wesley will die, I am leaning 
towards Percy.

> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
> I think it will.

> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
> She will be the new headmistress at Hogwarts and a loyal member of 
the Order.

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
> Yes he will, we still need more info on Petunia

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
>The order is still in action.  I don't think the DA will reform but 
I am sure that Ginny, Neville and Luna are going to be helping Harry 
out.
 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
>I hope so.
 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
>Eventually yes, we havn't seen the last of Lucius.  I am curious to 
know what is gaurding them in HBP
 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
> He is forced to aid, however he will do the bare minimum and try to 
hinder if possible.

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
>That he is not just his father's child.
 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
I really don't know if he helped but I wouldn't be surprised if he 
was there.

-Brigitte






From rachel.evans14 at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 26 18:31:42 2005
From: rachel.evans14 at btinternet.com (rachel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:31:42 +0100
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dc5ter+jhvr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.75.1576049079.5361.hpfgu-otchatter@archive.hpfgu.org>

"Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 

> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

No
 well yes.. well hopefully not
.

 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

No - I think he had no choice and was acting as part of DD's bigger plan.

 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

A couple at the moment - although there is more to Lupin than meets the eye

> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

His mother (mothers and their love seem to be a theme of the series.

> 5) Will any of the trio die?

Not sure - I hope not but I can't dismiss the possibility

> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

????


>  7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

Yes - Hogwarts still has a large role to play

> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

no

> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

Not sure 

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

A Weasley, Voldemort and Snape (to save Harry)

> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Only until the real DD returns...  although I think Fawkes will be the
greatest help.

> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

Headmistress (maybe?)

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

Yes, and I think that is where the first DE attach will come - with Petunia
showing skills she never thought she had...

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

OOTP - yes, DA - no

> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

Yes.

> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Yes 

> 17) Will Kreacher hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

He will help very unwillingly, with a little pressure from Dobby

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

Not sure, though I  have some wild speculation that I will keep to myself
for now...

> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

He was there - but was probably not seen.

Rachel x






From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 18:56:02 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:56:02 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPKEHLCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <dc6102+rml6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at b...> 
wrote:
> Lee :-) asked
> 
> Hmm--I thought the term for a room with only a toilet and sink 
was "water
> closet?"  Or is that outmoded?
> 

Juli

Funny actually that the WC is used in non-english speaking countries. 
In Spain and France, all the signs say WC, and in France you don't go 
to the bathroom, no you go to the WC ...





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Tue Jul 26 20:34:19 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:34:19 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <d1.2d80673d.3017f84b@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/26/05 11:43:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
rachel.evans14 at btinternet.com writes:


> > 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
> 
> Yes , unfortunately , but his spirit might be in the phoenix that Harry 
> thought he saw fly out of the white smoke at his funeral , and might aid Harry in 
> his quest.
> 
> 
> > 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
> 
> I am leaning towards no , that he was really acting on Dumbledore's orders , 
> whether they were planned or spur of the moment.
> 
> 
> > 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
> 
> A couple , but I don't see this playing a huge part in book 7.
> 
> > 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
> 
> Not sure that anyone loved snape. Unfortunately , mothers don't always love 
> their children. It is possible that Snape had feelings for Lily , which could 
> also play a huge part in why he hates James so much.
> 
> > 5) Will any of the trio die?
> 
> yes , probably Harry.
> 
> > 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
> 
> They might meet up again , but won't be a couple.
> 
> 
> >  7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
> 
> Yes  , for assistance and guidance.
> 
> > 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
> 
> Yes whether it is the scar or Harry himself ... some of Voldemort's soul is 
> in Harry. Haven't we been told this before?
> 
> > 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
> 
> He wasn't important to the plot in any of the memories.
> 
> > 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
> 
> Wormtail , Voldemort , Harry , possibly one of the Weasleys or some of the 
> Order.
> 
> > 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
> 
> Yes ... and I hope someone can clarify something here for me ... don't the 
> portriats only appear once the former headmaster is dead?
> 
> > 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
> 
> Headmistress  , and she will offer support and advice to Harry. She also 
> might take up leading the Order , although I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur 
> Weasley did.
> 
> > 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?
> 
> Yes, and we will finally find out who shows magic late in life.
> 
> > 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry? The order will help , but as 
> far as the DA , I only see Luna , Neville , Ginny and perhaps the Weasley 
> twins.
> 
> > 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
> 
> Yes 
> 
> > 17) Will Kreacher hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
> 
> He will help very unwillingly, with a little pressure from Dobby
> 
> > 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
> 
> We know that something HUGE is going to be revealed about Lily Potter in 
> book 7 ... it might have to do with that. I have a theory and if anyone is 
> interested , you can email me at hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com
> 
> > 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
> 
> I think Voldemort acted alone.
> 
> Kristin

p.s. a lot of people think percy weasley is going to die in book 7 . I am 
curious as to know why many of you think so , and I would love to hear your 
ideas. please contact me at hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com

> 
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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 00:08:37 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:08:37 -0000
Subject: HP Lexicon updates
Message-ID: <dc6ja5+np6q@eGroups.com>

Just happened over to the Lexicon to see what might be up and they are 
already updating! Under Wizarding Persons Amelia Bones has been 
updated. Dumbledore wasn't yet when I looked. Great job Lexicon!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****





From joseph at kirtland.com  Wed Jul 27 01:49:19 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:49:19 -0000
Subject: Blaise Zabini
Message-ID: <dc6p6v+pbdn@eGroups.com>

I just thought of a tidbit from the HBP that I haven't seen previously
discussed.

We now know for certain what Blaise is!  It has been previously
unknown if Blaise was male or female.

Now we know!  JKR has officially documented Blaise as "He" and a
wizard in the HBP.

Joe





From Meliss9900 at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 07:06:13 2005
From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:06:13 EDT
Subject: Book 6 survey
Message-ID: <1d8.419f6e0c.30188c65@aol.com>

> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Er...didn't they already?  Or are we assuming there are more of 
them?  If there are more, then why didn't they break free already?>>


All of the DE's (excepting Bellatrix) that were at the MOM  that night in 
OOTP 
are currently incarcerated in Azkaban.  As of the end of HPB they had not yet 
escaped . . DD theorized that they mighthave been secretly glad to be there 
as they were safer from LV's wrath.

Melissa    


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From Meliss9900 at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 07:29:41 2005
From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:29:41 EDT
Subject: Book 6 Survey
Message-ID: <1f4.e72351b.301891e5@aol.com>

1) Is Dumbledore truly dead? 

 Yes. . unfortunately
 
2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?  

 Unsure. .the jury's still out on this one.
 
3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?  

Yes

 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?  His Mother and I think that he 
might have had feelings for Lily.
  
5) Will any of the trio die? 

 Unsure.  Half the time I think that at least one of them will and the other 
half that they will all survive.  

6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?  

 If Harry survives probably.

7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?   

Not as students.  They will all be of legal age when 7th year begins so no 
one can make them go back.  I am beginning to think that at least one horcrux is 
hidden at Hogwarts.  Maybe that trophy for Special Service to the school that 
Riddle received.

8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux? 

No. I am sure that LV had intended to use Harry's murder to create his final 
horcrux. However he failed to kill harry and so he failed to make the final 
horcrux .
 
9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories? 

Fawkes WAS in one of pensieve memories.  The memory was when LV showed up to 
see Dumbledore and wanted the DADA position. 

"Whose memory is it?" he asked. "Mine," said Dumbledore.

And Harry dived after Dumbledore through the shifting silver mass, landing in 
the very office he had just left. There was Fawkes slumbering happily on his 
perch, and there behind the desk was Dumbledore, who looked very similar to 
the Dumbledore standing beside Harry, though both hands were whole and undamaged 
and his face was, perhaps, a little less lined. 

 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7? 

LV. Snape is probably toast as well. Pettigrew. I wouldn;t be surprised if 
one of the Weasleys died.  
 
11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

If Harry goes back to Hogwarts at all I expect it to be for him to have a 
talk with DD's likeness

12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?  

I think that she will be more background

13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?  
.
Yes.
 
14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?  

I don't kno about the DA  but the OOTP didn't dissolve after DD's death

15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?  

Yes leading to his death

16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?  

Possibly 

17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?  
Hinder
 
A bit of both probably

 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"? 

At this point I think that its just merely a coincidence

 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?   

Help him  no.  But I do think that he was there.


Melissa 


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From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Wed Jul 27 11:51:28 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:51:28 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 Survey
In-Reply-To: <1f4.e72351b.301891e5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPOEIDCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Melissa said
 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

LV. Snape is probably toast as well. Pettigrew. I wouldn;t be surprised if
one of the Weasleys died.


to which storm replied

Please goddess! let it be Percy! It's the only way I could be remotely
sympatric to that dweby little waste of space

storm


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From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 14:24:22 2005
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:24:22 -0500
Subject: Who won.......
In-Reply-To: <dc6102+rml6@eGroups.com>
References: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPKEHLCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
	 <dc6102+rml6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <d4a040d050727072428b13137@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Who won the prediction contest??  You know the one that we did right
before HBP came out??

I want to hear some bragging from the winner!!  :)

Thanks,
Tonya
(Who knows she didn't win but did have a few correct predictions!!)



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 27 14:58:07 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:58:07 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 Survey
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPOEIDCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <0IKA00JTEK8RSW01@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

| Melissa said
|  10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
| 
| LV. Snape is probably toast as well. Pettigrew. I wouldn;t be 
| surprised if
| one of the Weasleys died.
| 
| 
| to which storm replied
| 
| Please goddess! let it be Percy! It's the only way I could be remotely
| sympatric to that dweby little waste of space

[Lee]:
Ah--yes--Perfect Percy the Pucilanimous Prat.  <Grin> I'd love to see him go
down.  I can't help but see him finally trying to ask forgiveness, etc., and
Molly, of course, wanting to seal the rift between them, but the others not
trusting him and such...Hmm...

Lee :-)

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From anurim at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 15:05:54 2005
From: anurim at yahoo.com (Mira)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:05:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050727150554.72771.qmail@web32611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I've just popped in and saw the survey. Here are my
answers (after the first read). I haven't read the
other answers yet but well done for coming up with the
idea, the survey is bound to be quite illuminating on
the subject of Book 6.

> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we
> are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of
> book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

Yes. Unfortunately.

> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

Mmmm... not really. Or at least, I don't believe Snape
betrayed the Order.

> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a
> red herring?

Couple.

> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

Lily's parents loved Snape as a son, much as James'
parents loved Sirius. Snape has loved at least his
mother and most likely somebody else as well. A woman.

> 5) Will any of the trio die?

Mmmm... let's hope no.

> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

Let's hope no :) But I guess possibly yes.

> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for
> book 7?

Yes, but not necessarily for lessons.

> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

No.

> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

How many of Dumbledore's memories happen in his
office? The one where Tom came to ask for the DADA
job. Perhaps Harry was to absorbed to notice Fawkes.

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in
> book 7?

Oh, lots of them. I don't want to make predictions,
because I'm afraid I won't like the outcome. I'm still
not sure Harry will survive.

> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Most definitely.

> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

Able headmistress to a school which is badly
collapsing. Not entirely sure she's not ESE, at least
a little. Why is it important that Harry avoided to
tell her what he has done with DD? Because he's
becoming his own man, yes, but still...

> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is
> supposed to?

Yes.

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

In a sense. PA, definitely. OOTP will also help. Lupin
will be the new leader.

> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

Yes.

> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from
> Azkaban?

Probably, at some point.

> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears
> in book 7?

He will help Harry, if he appears. But it's not likely
he will.

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers
> eyes"?

He has the ability to see what is good in people as
well. And a bit more.

> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

No.

Mira


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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 27 15:36:28 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:36:28 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IKA00MZ7M0OZ7MP@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

| Luckdragon:
| I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
| about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
| for fun:

[Lee]:
I'll play. :-)  Incidentally, does Luckdragon come from "The Never Ending
Story?" :-)

[LD]:
| 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

[Lee]:
His portrait's there, so yes, and not unexpected.

[LD]:
| 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

[Lee]:
It looks pretty bad for Snape, but I'm hoping for a scenario like in the
Jedi where, perhaps at the last moment, Snape will aquit himself. (One can
hope, can't one?)

[LD]:
| 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

[Lee]:
Yes they are, and I think they'll be good for each other.  They may not
appear much in Book 7, but we know that, at least, two good people have
found each other and can have some happiness.

[LD]:
| 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

[Lee]:
I think that DD loved Snape and, in his own way, Snape loved and admired DD.
I would also say that Snape must have loved or at least appreciated his
mother in order to keep and use the Prince name.  As far as the theories on
Snape and Lilly go, I just don't know...

[LD]:
| 5) Will any of the trio die?
[Lee]:
Nope.  There may be some serious injuries, but no death there.

[LD]:
| 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

[Lee]:
Yes, and IMHO she's going to play some vital part in helping Harry.

[LD]:
| 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

[Lee]:
Not as students, perhaps, but an HP story without Hogwarts is not complete.
There are things he needs to find and DD's portrait to speak with.

[LD]:
| 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

[Lee]:
Even though Harry ended up with some of Volde's abilities, he doesn't have
any of his real soul, so nope, no horcrux.

[LD]:
| 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

[Lee]:
He was in the one that was DD's in his office with the emerging Voldemort.
Otherwise, he wasn't riding on DD's shoulder, so he wasn't there.

[LD]:
| 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

[Lee]:
Probably Snape and Volde, probably whoever gets the DADA position, probably
one or more Order members.

[LD]:
| 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

[Lee]:
Yes, in some way, and possibly instruct Harry on how to use the Pensieve to
retrieve some vital clues.

[LD]:
| 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

[Lee]:
Head Mistress, hopefully support and protection; perhaps she's been told by
DD's portrait to help Harry.

[LD]:
| 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

[Lee]:
Sure, and he'll have Ron and Hermione with him, and we'll finally learn
Petunia's secrets.

[LD]:
| 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

[Lee]:
The order never disbanded, and they will always be involved in some way.
The DA will probably never fully return, but we know that Luna and Nev kept
their coins and, no doubt, they'll be back.

[LD]:
| 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

[Lee]:
Well,it's a Wizard's debt, actually, and in some way he may, but
unwillingly.

[LD]:
| 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

[Lee]:
I don't think we've seen the last of Lucius, however, I do agree with the
idea that they may feel a little safer in Askaban considering Volde's wrath.

[LD]:
| 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

[Lee]:
He will aid, albeit unwillingly.

[LD]:
| 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

[Lee]:
He has his mother's eyes; they are lovely eyes; they are probably expressive
eyes; he's probably going to have to learn how to keep them from being too
expressive. :-)

[Lee]:
| 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

[Lee]:
I want to say no for now.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 19:10:11 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:10:11 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc8m6j+m137@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all 
feeling about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. 
Just for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

Yes and no. I think that if he is human, yes he is dead. But he 
might be an imortal being like Fawkes, and if this is so we will see 
him again at the end of book 7, but maybe not in his human form.

 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

No, I think that Snape is still working for DD.

 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

Oh, I am SO happy about this. I like Lupin a lot, he is a kind and 
caring man, we can be a good couple. Who else could live with him?  
I can transfigure too!  Seeing Tonks and Lupin together helps easy 
the pain of DD's death for me. Loved the scene of Arthur talking to 
Lupin about it all.


> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
If I am right on this one I want bragging right!!  Narcissa.


> 5) Will any of the trio die?

Yes, Harry.

> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

As I predicted before HBP, Ginny is the ONLY woman for him. It is 
only logical. Harry will die or have a near death experence enough 
for us to think him dead, Fawkes will come to him and he will come 
back from the dead. Then he and Ginny will be reunited as the 
symbolic new Adam and new Eve. As the prediction goes, he will 
become Minister of Magic and they will have 12 children. Just you 
wait and see!!

 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

One of the things that has me so sad is that not only is DD dead, 
but that Hogwarts is closed. JKR has said that the Quidditch match 
in HBP was the last one. So that says to me that Hogwarts is closed. 

> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

Hard to say. We know that part of LV is in Harry, but does that make 
Harry a horcrux?  Or his scar?  I will guess, yes.

 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

Don't understand this one. Why would he have been, the memories were 
those of other people. Am I missing something here?

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

Snape will die to save Harry and to save his own soul from an 
otherwise terrable fate.

 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
 
Yes, and it will help McG too. Wonder what other places we will see 
it in?

> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

If Hogwarts is closed she may be the head of the Order, if Harry 
isn't.
 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

Yes, he is not a stupid little boy anymore.

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

They have been helping Harry more than he knows up to now, so yes.

> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
   
Yes.

> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

Yes, who is guarding the place now anyway?

> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

Oh, that is a good one. Depends on if Dobby can convert him. 
Kreature is duty bond to obey Harry, even if he doesn't want to.

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

No clue. LIke Harry, kind of tired of hearing it.

> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

If anyone else was there that night is was either Snape or 
Pettegrew. I don't think that Snape *helped* LV if he was there. 
Snape was trying to save his own sorry a.., not help LV. (See my 
Ultimate Snape Theory post on HPFGU main list.)

Tonks_op





From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 19:41:26 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:41:26 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey SPOILER...
In-Reply-To: <1a9.3bdaa936.3016b05e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dc8o16+jcsa@eGroups.com>

I think we are suppose to use spoiler warning here. SPOILER......

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Hockeygrrrl17 at a... wrote:
 If Dumbledore was injured by destroying the ring 
> ... and Dumbledore was the greatest wizard of that time ... whose 
powers rivaled Merlin , and when Harry and Dumbledore had to go on that 
dangerous adventure to retain the fake horcrux ... how is Harry going 
to be able to do this without Dumbledore? It is going to be very hard.
> 

Tonks:

Harry has a power within him that is greater than even Merlin's magic. 
That is all he is going to need in the end. I don't know how it will 
play out and I am sure that JKR in her great and talented way will 
astound us all. 

Tonks_op





From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 21:07:59 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:07:59 -0000
Subject: Who won.......
In-Reply-To: <d4a040d050727072428b13137@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dc8t3f+nbnb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Tonya Minton 
<tonyaminton at g...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Who won the prediction contest??  You know the one that we did 
right
> before HBP came out??
> 
> I want to hear some bragging from the winner!!  :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Tonya
> (Who knows she didn't win but did have a few correct predictions!!)

*****\(@@)/*****

Ditto here! I would suppose they are still figuring it all out with 
all the entries.... It should be good when they do!

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****





From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 21:14:29 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:14:29 -0000
Subject: Leaky Lounge Glitch
Message-ID: <dc8tfl+2ecp@eGroups.com>

Though I was able to access this forum this morning, I can't get into
the Leaky Lounge.  I keep getting a message telling me "the connection
was refused".

Is anyone else having the problem?






From swartell at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 21:34:09 2005
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Leaky Lounge Glitch
In-Reply-To: <dc8tfl+2ecp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050727213409.52687.qmail@web53214.mail.yahoo.com>



--- slytherin_dragoon1 <lord1912 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Though I was able to access this forum this morning,
> I can't get into
> the Leaky Lounge.  I keep getting a message telling
> me "the connection
> was refused".
> 
> Is anyone else having the problem? 
> 


I am!  And I was so good at work, not checking on the
Lounge at all...

Sue


		
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From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 27 21:37:58 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:37:58 -0000
Subject: Who won.......  SPOILER
In-Reply-To: <dc8t3f+nbnb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc8urm+lt62@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Tonya Minton 
> <tonyaminton at g...> wrote:
> > Who won the prediction contest??  You know the one that we did 
> right before HBP came out??

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" 
<dudemom_2000 at y...> wrote: 
> Ditto here! I would suppose they are still figuring it all out     
> with all the entries.... It should be good when they do!
SPOILER
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

Yes, I had a look at my predictions to see if I had got anything 
right and was astounded to see that I had predicted that the Half-
Blood Prince would be the new DADA teacher - needless to say I 
hadn't predicted that the new DADA teacher would be who it was nor 
did I think for one moment that the HBP was the name of the person 
it was!  I'm dying to find out if my accidental hit will be counted 
as worth a mark, or tossed aside with the contempt it deserves!!

Karen






From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 21:39:00 2005
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:39:00 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Who won.......
In-Reply-To: <dc8t3f+nbnb@eGroups.com>
References: <d4a040d050727072428b13137@mail.gmail.com>
	 <dc8t3f+nbnb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <d4a040d0507271439152ba4e6@mail.gmail.com>

OH good I thought I missed it in the HBP aftermath!!  Thanks!!

I cannot wait to see who is the grandest of us all!!

Tonya

On 7/27/05, dudemom_2000 <dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Tonya Minton 
> 
> <tonyaminton at g...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Who won the prediction contest??  You know the one that we did 
> right
> > before HBP came out??
> > 
> > I want to hear some bragging from the winner!!  :)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tonya
> > (Who knows she didn't win but did have a few correct predictions!!)
> 
> *****\(@@)/*****
> 
> Ditto here! I would suppose they are still figuring it all out with 
> all the entries.... It should be good when they do!
> 
> Dudemom_2000
> 
> *****\(@@)/*****
> 
> 
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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 22:04:43 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:04:43 -0000
Subject: HP Lexicon updates
In-Reply-To: <dc6ja5+np6q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc90dr+mq6f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dudemom_2000" 
<dudemom_2000 at y...> wrote:
> Just happened over to the Lexicon to see what might be up and they 
are 
> already updating! Under Wizarding Persons Amelia Bones has been 
> updated. Dumbledore wasn't yet when I looked. Great job Lexicon!
> 
> Dudemom_2000
> 
> *****\(@@)/*****

Just checked tonite and there are more updates. Dumbledore and Snape 
have their updates. Getting more interesting, though I would say if 
you haven't read the book, best not to go over there to look!

Dudemom_2000

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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 22:08:08 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:08:08 -0000
Subject: Who won.......  SPOILER
In-Reply-To: <dc8urm+lt62@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dc90k8+f2ti@eGroups.com>

Message 28461 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker" 
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:

> SPOILER
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> 
> Yes, I had a look at my predictions to see if I had got anything 
> right and was astounded to see that I had predicted that the Half-
> Blood Prince would be the new DADA teacher - needless to say I 
> hadn't predicted that the new DADA teacher would be who it was nor 
> did I think for one moment that the HBP was the name of the person 
> it was!  I'm dying to find out if my accidental hit will be 
counted as worth a mark, or tossed aside with the contempt it 
deserves!!
> 
> Karen

*****\(@@)/*****

Cheers! A round of Butterbeer for Karen! *breaks out the jug* Still 
a decent guess! *pours Butterbeer all around*

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****







From rgmcf at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 00:49:01 2005
From: rgmcf at yahoo.com (Rod McFadden)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <1122465394.315.61057.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050728004901.1899.qmail@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I confess to having muffed 'chuffed'.  Comes from a former Commonwealth citizen who's a friend of mine and who uses it to mean 'irritated.'  I shall add a dose of cayenne pepper to his coffee.
Didn't mean to be quite that pedantic.

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 28 02:57:13 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:57:13 -0400
Subject: SPOILER--Do I See A Flint?
Message-ID: <0IKB006IEHJ9V69G@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

S P O I L E R!!

S
P
O
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R

S
P
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E!!

Okay, someone help me out here and let me know if I see a biggy Flint?

In COS, Harry is taken to Filch's office; Peeves drops the cabinet which
takes Filch's attention; Filch then returns and I quote:

Filch was looking triumphant.

"That vanishing cabinet was extremely
valuable!" he was saying gleefully to Mrs. Norris. "We'll have
Peeves out this time, my sweet--"

Now, we know it was broken because of this:
Nearly Headless Nick came gliding out of a classroom. Behind him,
Harry could see the wreckage of a large black-and-gold cabinet
that appeared to have been dropped from a great height.

Okay, so it was broken.  However, in OOTP, we have what the Weasley twins
did with Montague:

"He never managed to get all the words out,"
said Fred, "due to the fact that we forced him
headfirst into that Vanishing Cabinet on the first floor."

I think that Flint was already pointed out.  But, now, in HBP, what do we
see?  A vanishing cabinet that obviously needs to be fixed, which Malfoy
accomplishes.  So, am I confused or what?

And, in line with this, going back to OOTP, it says:

"It's Professor Umbridge, sir--she needs your help," said Malfoy.
"They've found Montague, sir. He's turned up jammed inside a
toilet on the fourth floor."

Now, from HBP:
[Malfoy]:
"In Borgin and Burkes," said Malfoy,
"and they make a kind of passage between them. Montague told me
that when he was stuck in the
Hogwarts one, he was trapped in
limbo but sometimes he could hear what was going onat school, and sometimes
what was going on in the
shop, as if the cabinet was traveling between them, but
he couldn't make anyone hear him. ... In the
end, he managed to Apparate out, even though
he'd never passed his test. He nearly died
doing it. ..."

Uh--duh--You Can't Apparate On Hogwarts Grounds Or In The Castle...is that
not correct?  As Hermione keeps reminding us?

Except when arrangements are made for ap lessons.

Now, are we all confused?  Shall we mull this over with some butterbeer and
cauldron cakes?

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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From seuferer at netins.net  Thu Jul 28 03:58:17 2005
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:58:17 -0000
Subject: Haunted Chambers, a Harry Potter RPG run by adults!
Message-ID: <dc9l4p+bork@eGroups.com>

We have many new character openings as we begin to blend the new HBP 
canon into our game. 

This game is run by adults and geared toward adult/mature players. 
We do allow older teens (16+) with mature writing styles and a firm 
grasp and understanding of canon and their characters. We carefully 
screen new players to ensure good quality players and maximum game 
enjoyment for everyone. 

Hogwarts and the student population is by no means our only focus. 
We have many adult players out and about in the wizarding world and 
even mingling with the Muggles. There is a great deal of room for 
creativity and imagination while still keeping true to the heart and 
feel of JKR's universe. 

We do accept Original Characters, but these are even more rigorously 
screened for potential Mary-Sueisms.

Our game has numerous forums and boards to allow our characters to 
play in many time-frames, including Hogwarts history, MWPP era, past 
Harry Potter years and of course now including year 6. We are just 
now integrating HBP canon into the game?please beware of spoilers if 
you come to view the board. Some minor aspects of canon we have 
chosen not to integrate as the characters involved do not wish to 
alter established `ships' right now, etc. but the core plotline of 
HBP will be followed. 

Our Homepage can be viewed here: 

http://www.hauntedchambers.net 

And our currently available character listing can be viewed here: 

http://www.hauntedchambers.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=732#732 

We have newly vacated positions of crucial characters, which we are 
very anxious to fill. Please note: We will be screening these 
applications especially closely for firm grasp of canon, firm idea 
of character interpretations, and writing style. 

Lucius Malfoy 
Draco Malfoy 
Peter Pettigrew
Bill Weasley 
Percy Weasley 
Ginny Weasley 

There are many, many other available characters, these just happen 
to be the highest needs at this time. 

Please come and have a look around?it is a fun and interesting way 
to get even deeper into the core personalities of your favorite 
characters as we angst away over the cliff-hanger of HBP and 
anxiously await Book 7! 

Lisa/aka Board Mum






From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 04:57:49 2005
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:57:49 -0000
Subject: SPOILER--Do I See A Flint?
In-Reply-To: <0IKB006IEHJ9V69G@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dc9okd+gs80@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> S P O I L E R!!
> 
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> 
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E!!
> 
> Okay, someone help me out here and let me know if I see a biggy 
Flint?
> 
> In COS, Harry is taken to Filch's office; Peeves drops the cabinet 
which
> takes Filch's attention; Filch then returns and I quote:
> 
> Filch was looking triumphant.
> 
> "That vanishing cabinet was extremely
> valuable!" he was saying gleefully to Mrs. Norris. "We'll have
> Peeves out this time, my sweet--"
> 
> Now, we know it was broken because of this:
> Nearly Headless Nick came gliding out of a classroom. Behind him,
> Harry could see the wreckage of a large black-and-gold cabinet
> that appeared to have been dropped from a great height.
> 
> Okay, so it was broken.  However, in OOTP, we have what the Weasley 
twins
> did with Montague:
> 
> "He never managed to get all the words out,"
> said Fred, "due to the fact that we forced him
> headfirst into that Vanishing Cabinet on the first floor."
> 
> I think that Flint was already pointed out.  But, now, in HBP, what 
do we
> see?  A vanishing cabinet that obviously needs to be fixed, which 
Malfoy
> accomplishes.  So, am I confused or what?
> 
>snippity-snip-snip

Doddie here:

It is one thing to repair glasses, a broken dish/glass/cup/cauldron 
etc....but if Dumbledore saw a smashed cabinet he'd say, "repairo" 
and more things than would meet the eye would be repaired.

Hence in HBP when harry did "diffindio" and "reparo"...on the HBP's 
book...it worked with all the notes in tact--because he cast the 
spell with the unerstanding that it would...(oh my could HBP be 
teaching us a thing about spells???)

If a pre exisiting spell is already  upon the object....

How much do you wanna bet that Draco never thought to do a simple 
spell as "reparo"....or maybe he did(probably) despite his "add-
ons"....(OMG---love, or rather the intent of spells come into play 
here!!) Malfoys motivators were fear...Harry's love and courage, and 
fear, and intellect, and dextrous ambiguity, and friendship(s), and 
desire....not ambition...but desire--desire to see/want those who he 
loves to be healthy and happy and able to lead the life he never 
led...

And if I'm wrong...trace the path of the maraurder's map! in 
COS...Harry doesn't think Filch's "squibbiness" is a factor at 
all...and NHN put that play in motion...just like DD's being back is 
another play NHN put in motion as well...

Doddie
(who thinks NHN can rock on with is bad self--perhaps he teaches 
lessons that no one sleeps through!)





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 28 07:00:44 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:00:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: SPOILER--Do I See A Flint?
In-Reply-To: <dc9okd+gs80@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IKB00HWAST4XNXC@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Doddie]:
| And if I'm wrong...trace the path of the maraurder's map! in 
| COS...Harry doesn't think Filch's "squibbiness" is a factor at 
| all...and NHN put that play in motion...just like DD's being back is 
| another play NHN put in motion as well...
| 
| Doddie
| (who thinks NHN can rock on with is bad self--perhaps he teaches 
| lessons

[Lee]:
Uh--NHN is who?  My brain lost something in the translation.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 15:13:36 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:13:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Birthdays, Birthdays and more Birthdays!
Message-ID: <20050728151336.12317.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com>

*totters in under the staggering weight of many, many
cakes*

If someone could be so kind as to blow up the last of
the balloons, I have a few trolleys of food to bring
in.

We've had lots of birthdays this week! Everyone gather
'round for a heck of a party. :)

Birthday honourees this week were/are: July 24 -
Heather Hettick and Lady McBeth, July 25 - Meg D,
Kristin aka Alyeskakc, and pgr, July 28 - Nox

Birthday owls of all kinds can be sent care of this
list or directly to Heather at: hettick1 at yahoo.com, to
Lady McBeth at mcdee1980 at yahoo.com, to Meg at:
mdemeran at hotmail.com, to Kristin at:
alyeskakc at aol.com, to pgr at: azakitpgr at yahoo.co.uk
and to Nox at: silverdragon001 at bigpond.com

I hope everyone's birthdays were the most wonderful of
celebrations, full of joy, magic and the company of
good friends.

Happy Birthday, Heather!
Happy Birthday, Lady McBeth!
Happy Birthday, Meg!
Happy Birthday, Kristin!
Happy Birthday, pgr!
Happy Birthday, Nox!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 22:36:29 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:36:29 -0000
Subject: Dan, Rupert, and Emma in IMDb poll
Message-ID: <dcbmld+t9tb@eGroups.com>

For anyone who's interested, today's IMDb poll features Dan Radcliffe,
Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint among a long list of other "child stars"
(obviously including teenagers). So far, all of them are being
thoroughly trounced by an eleven-year-old (Dakota Fanning). To check
it out, go to http://us.imdb.com/poll/

You have to be registered to vote in the poll, but we all know how to
do that, right? The poll will end tonight at midnight (time zone
unknown), but if you miss the chance to vote, you can still check the
results.

Carol, wondering what the cast (adults and kids) thinks of HBP and how
it will affect the filming, writing, and acting in OoP





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 00:06:58 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:06:58 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey (SPOILERS!)
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcbrv2+sk7p@eGroups.com>

I take it the spoiler policy stated on the Home page is no longer in
effect? If not, the List Elves can remove this post with no protests
from me. If you have not read HBP, please don't read this post.
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> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead? 
Yes, but he died from a seven-story fall, not from an AK. Note his
open eyes, peaceful expression, and other clues that Snape's spell was
an Impedimenta disguised as an AK. as I posted to the main list.

> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
I did on a first reading and was in shock for days. But after a
careful rereading of relevant passages, no I don't. I think he told DD
about his Unbreakable Vow and did the best he could to serve him
before it took effect, including "helping" Draco by putting his
accomplices in detention. I think that until Flitwick alerted him to
the presence of the Death Eaters, he had no idea that Draco's plan had
succeeded. Until he burst through the door and saw a shockingly
helpless Dumbledore, I think he he hoped that he would not have to
fulfill the last clause of his vow. The revulsion on his face was
revulsion at the deed he had to do, and the anger at DD for falling
helplessly into the DE's hands and forcing him to keep his vow. The
last look exchanged between them was a message: "Severus, please! You
*must* do this!" But why, aside from saving Draco and himself by
keeping his vow, I don't know.
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
No red herring. Just a gesture to the fans who wanted Lupin to have
some joy in his life. (I'll be surprised if he marries her before the
war ends, though, and I don't expect him to survive.)
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
Clearly, Dumbledore loved Snape as a son to the very end. Snape's
mother may also have loved him. I'm guessing that he also loved his
mother. Perhaps she died in his fifth year and MWPP caught him crying,
resulting in the cruel nickname "Snivellus" and a lasting hatred for
James and Sirius on Severus's part. As for Snape loving anyone, I
think he loved Dumbledore as a father and mentor. I don't think the
Snape loved Lily theory holds water. The life debt to James may,
though. Possibly Snape tried to protect him becaue of it and is
furious that James died despite his efforts. His remorse must have
related to Lily, not James, but need not imply that he loved her.
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?
Not Harry. Possibly Ron, but I hope not. It would be too predictable,
and Harry has already suffered enough pain.
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
If he lives, yes they will. What was that prediction of Trelawney's
about Harry having twelve children and becoming the MoM? And besides,
"scar" is the last word of the epilogue, not the main story, and that
to me suggests that Harry is alive at the end of the book.
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
No, but Ginny will if it's still open. Maybe she'll use Pigwidgeon to
communicate with HRH and fill us in on events at Hogwarts.
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
No. I'm not even sure that Nagini is one, and the diary was a special
case because it was originally intended for a different purpose
(carrying on Salazar Slytherin's "noble" work). A real horcrux must be
a solid object, nearly indestructible, which can last to the end of
time, insuring the earthly immortality of the person whose soul it
contains. If it's destroyed, the piece of soul inside it no longer
serves its purpose. Moreover, a horcrux does not automatically result
from an act of murder. The murder is only the prerequisite, followed
by a very advanced, very complicated, wholly deliberate act of Dark
magic. I think the closest we've come to this kind of magic is the
combination of potion and incantation used by Wormtail (a better
wizard than he's been credited as being but a revolting excuse for a
man). The magic required to create a Horcrux would be, if anything,
more horrifying, or so we can gauge from Slughorn's reaction.
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
Because the memories don't take place in DD's office, or the office
was not yet his.
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
No canon for this, but Lupin and one or more Weasleys, including
Percy. I'll be very surprised, too, if Snape survives, but I'm betting
that he dies redeemed.
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
If Harry visits Hogwarts, yes.
> 
> 12) What role will McGonagall play in book 7?
Headmistress of Hogwarts, too busy for much of a role in the Order.
Maybe she'll still teach Transfiguration.
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursleys' as he is supposed to?
He has to. He promised Dumbledore. He'll leave just after he turns
seventeen, but not before danger strikes Privet Drive and Mrs. Figg
proves "quite late in life" that she can cast a spell after all.
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP re-form to help Harry?
The Order is still "formed," and we'll see more of Lupin, Mad-Eye
Moody, along with the mysterious Aberforth, who may be the one who
tells the Order that Snape is not a traitor. As for the DA, only
Ginny, Neville, and Luna will still be members, and they will probably
train together in the Room of Requirement. Maybe they'll be the heroes
who save Hogwarts. Harry's battle wit LV will occur someplace else.
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
Yes, but not because he's become a good guy. If Snape is ESE!, maybe
he'll kill Snape. But I think we're in for something unexpected,
relating more directly to LV, and Wormtail will save Harry because the
life debt forces him to do so. If he doesn't die in the attempt, he'll
die later. Maybe Snape, whoc considers him "vermin," will end his
pitiful existence. (I'm more curious about the role the silver hand
will play.)
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
No. they don't want to, at least not until Voldemort is destroyed. And
what place will they have in the WW even then? (OTOH, Dolohov was one
of the scarier Death Eaters we've seen so far. Maybe he and the
Lestrange brothers will escape to join Bellatrix, leaving Lucius and
the weaker Death Eaters to rot in prison.)
> 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
Kreacher is now Harry's servant. Possibly under Dobby's influence,
he'll come around. (DD's advice to treat Kreacher with kindness may
work. At the very least, a clean tea towel might help!) If not, if
he's truly loyal to Bellatrix and Narcissa (who despite her love for
her son is a supporter of Voldemort), then Dobby will kill him. At any
rate, we haven't seen the last of him.
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
Simple. There's no magic, no special power, involved. They're just
highly unusual eyes that people remember. Slughorn, like everyone
else, recognized Lily's eyes when he saw Harry's, and they stirred a
memory of his affection for her (along with perhaps exaggerated
memories of her skill at Potions, which probably was closer to
Hermione's than to Severus Snape's). This sentimental attitude toward
Lily, combined with Slughorn's remorse for his unwitting role in LV's
rise to power, enables Harry to get what he needs from Slughorn--the
information on horcruxes that he gave to Tom Riddle.
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
This one is answered directly in "Spinner's End." Snape was already
teaching at Hogwarts (under LV's orders and perhaps DD's as well) when
the Potters were killed. He could not have been at Godric's Hollow.
(But Wormtail was, and he retrieved and hid LV's wand. Otherwise, he
could not have returned it to him in GoF.)

Carol, with apologies to the List Elves if I should not have posted
these reponses





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Fri Jul 29 01:05:53 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:05:53 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 survey 2
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In a message dated 7/27/05 12:12:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tonks_op at yahoo.com writes:


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > I loved this string of emails  , so I decided to add a few questions of my 
> own.
> > 
> > 1) What is the huge secret about Lily that is going to be revealed in book 
> 7?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 2) What will become of Draco Malfoy?
> 
> 
> > 3) What is the 6th horcrux?
> 
> 
> > 4) Will any of the DA , trio or order use an unforgivable curse against 
> the death eaters?
> 
> 
> > 5) Can we trust the new minister of magic?
> 
> > 6) What will be Snape's roll ?
> 
> 
> > 7) Will fawkes help Harry in his quest?
> 
> > 8) What will be the most important discovery in book 7 besides the 
> horcruxes that will help Harry destroy Voldemort?
> 
> 
> > 9) Will underage wizards and witches be able to use magic outside of 
> Hogwarts in order to defend themselves against the death eaters?
> 
> > 10) Will Neville be able to avenge his parents?
> 
> 
> > 11) Who will be the new defense against the dark arts teacher?
> 
> > 12) Will Professor Flitwick help Harry become a powerful Dueler?
> 
> > 13) Will Slytherin and the rest of the houses unite to overcome Voldemort?
> 
> > 14) Will Hogwarts be attacked?
> 
> > 15) Is someone we now believe to be good really bad?
> 
> > 16) Will the dementors have a huge role in book 7?
> 
> > 17) After Harry destroys all the horcruxes , what will he do to kill 
> Voldemort?
> 
> 
> > 18) What will Harry discover at Godric's Hollow?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Fri Jul 29 01:06:37 2005
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:06:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book 6 survey SPOILER...
Message-ID: <104.65f5b9b5.301adb1d@aol.com>

thanks for responding tonks :)


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From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 02:20:10 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:20:10 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcc3oq+egc5@eGroups.com>

> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?

I think not.

> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?

No.  

> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?

Not really concerned about that.
 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?

Probably no one.  His attitude comes directly from a lifetime of
disappointment and loneliness.  I think he loved Lily as a teenager.

> 5) Will any of the trio die?

Probably not.
 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?

Probably

> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?

Ron and Hermoine, at least.
 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?

Could be.  I think when he kills Voldy, the scar will disappear.
 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?

Not sure.  But I think DD is an Animagus and that it's a phoenix.

> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?

VM, Bellatrix, Lupin
 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 

Not sure.  If he's really dead, then perhaps
 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?

Headmistress
 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to?

Yes.  I think a major scene involving Petunia will be played out
there.

> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?

Probably
 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?

Yes.
 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?

I think Draco will break his father out.  And I think Draco will be on
the run from VM and Lucius will chose to help his son, instead of VM
 
> 17) Will Kreature hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?

He'll try to hinder, but won't really be able to unless Bellatrix gets
hold of him.

> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?

Not sure

> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?

Not sure





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 02:22:56 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:22:56 -0000
Subject: Was Snape at Godric's Hollow? The answer is in HBP!
In-Reply-To: <dbvlrm+2prk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcc3u0+4a6a@eGroups.com>

Please skip this post if you haven't read HBP.


Karen Barker wrote:
> > 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?  I definitely 
> think he was there and based on the fact that I'm going through 
> a 'Yes' phase to Q2, I'll say Yes to this too!


Carol responds:
This question is definitively answered in "Spinners's End." Bellatrix
demands to know where Snape was when the Dark Lord fell, meaning that
he was *not* at Godric's Hollow or she would not have asked. Snape
reminds her of what she already knows, that he was sent by the Dark
Lord to teach at Hogwarts, presumably to fill the vacant (and jinxed!)
DADA position.

This answer does not lay Bellatrix's doubts to rest--she still
suspects that Snape is secretly loyal to Dumbledore--but it does
answer that particular question. Whatever Snape's motives (and I think
Bellatrix is right to suspect him), we know this much:

Snape could not have helped LV at Godric's Hollow because he wasn't
there. He was already teaching at Hogwarts.

Carol, who has much more to say on this question but is trying to stay
with the facts here







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 03:33:45 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:33:45 -0000
Subject: Helping Muggle children ...Waking Albus Dumbledore
In-Reply-To: <20050724165315.39934.qmail@web51601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dcc82p+61cl@eGroups.com>

Kemper wrote:
>  
> JKR has given parents everywhere an opportunity to address Death
with their kids. There have been good suggestions made.  I would add
throwing a wake into the mix.  
>  
> At the wake everyone can draw, talk, write, about a man who's been
in some people's lives for a few years.  After every art display,
story, or reading, Albus can be toasted with quality rootbeer,
gingerale, or sparkling cider.  The art and writing can be displayed
in a small area in the house for some established period of time. (Too
long a time period is not moving past the grief, too little is not
validating the grief)  There can be a small ritual taking it down later.


Carol responds:
I think a wake or memorial service is a wonderful idea. (Note how much
better Harry copes with Dumbledore's death than with Sirius's just
because that service gives him and others a way of honoring Dumbledore
and acknowledging the death.) Don't forget music, preferable beautiful
music and lyrics which, like the Phoenix song, can transform grief
into poignant and powerful, sad and yet beautiful. "Our sweetest songs
are those that tell of saddest thought," as Shelley (the English
Romantic poet) said.

Another idea would be to point out Harry's reactions. At first, just
like them, he goes through denial and anger and grief. But at the
memorial service, he finds himself smiling, remembering Dumbledore's
eccentric sense of humor ("nitwit," "oddment," "blubber," "tweak"). He
feels, for the first time in the books, a "rush of affection" for
Neville and Luna (643-43). Dumbledore's death has helped him to see
others more clearly, to acknowledge their grief and their worth and to
 *like* them as he has never done before. The truth sweeps over him
that Dumbledore is gone and he remembers Dumbledore's words about
fighting, and fighting again, to keep evil at bay. He sees in his mind
the people who had cared about him and protected him and died, and he
realizes that he is alone. He cannot let anyone stand between him and
Voldemort. The he sees the phoenix shape fly joyfully into the blue
and the tomb close magically over Dumbledore's body. His friends are
crying, but he moves away from them, only to be confronted by Rufus
Scrimgeour, and he repeats Dumbledore's words, "He will only be gone
from the school when none her are loyal to him," and he smiles again.
And confronting Scrimgeour makes him realize that, even though
Dumbledore is dead, he, Harry, is still "Dumbledore's man through and
through." And then he discovers that he's not alone after all. Ron and
Hermione are still with him. There is still hope and joy; there is
still love in the world.

I've gone into too much detail as usual, but I think a careful reading
of the seemingly anticlimactic final chapter (with a caring adult
showing them what to look for) will provide comfort for children who
grieve for Dumbledore and fear for Harry. The book ends on a note of
hope, not a note of despair, and I think that's worth pointing out.

I wonder, though, whether those children will even want to read Book
7, even if they come to terms with Dumbledore's death. And I hope that
parents and teachers will read it before they give it to their
children, not to deny their children the privilege of reading it if
they want to, but to prepare themselves, and if necessary, warn the
children, if the book proves too grim. There will be more deaths, and
we adults are prepared for them, but what about the children? I don't
think Harry's going to die, but what if one of the deaths is Ron or
Hermione?

I wonder if JKR expected such a universal outpouring of grief and what
she's doing to help the children cope. I also wonder if the children
would have dealt better with Dumbledore's death if he had died of the
poison instead of being killed by Snape. (A lot of hate and anger is
going to be directed at Snape. If he turns out not to be ESE! will
they believe it?)

Does anyone think that JKR is doing her readers a service? WE don't
deal much with death in our society--only objectively reported stories
about strangers on the news or meaningless fictional deaths of
characters in TV programs (this week's murder victim whose case the
detectives will solve without any feelings for the dead person). When
someone we love dies, we're afraid to talk about it because others
don't know how to react to us. Now, at least, these children will have
many others who share their grief. And maybe, when someone they love
dies in real life, they'll be better able to handle it--and less
hesitant to talk about it.

Carol, with apologies for not reading all the posts in the thread
before composing this one





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 03:43:21 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:43:21 -0000
Subject: OT list spoiler policy?
In-Reply-To: <dc0r6v+37ob@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcc8kp+48mf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kkersey_austin"
<kkersey at s...> wrote:
> Has the spoiler policy for this list been officially lifted yet? Just
> wondering, because the home page still says it's a spoiler-free zone. 
> 
> Doesn't affect me personally, but I'd hate for anyone to get ambushed
> with spoilers in a place they were expecting to be safe.
> 
> Elisabet


Carol responds:
Thank you for asking this question, which I was seeing from the other
perspective (that of someone who's read the book but is afraid of
Howlers if I talk about it). I've added my spoilers to those of other
people, but with *spoiler warnings*, and only because, AFAIK,the List
Elves have not stepped in to stop the discussion.

It would be hard not to know who dies in HBP since it's all over the
media, but there are other details of the plot that maybe we shouldn't
be discussing here.

List Elves, please don't send us all Howlers, but a little guidance
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Carol





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 03:59:31 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:59:31 -0000
Subject: A Matter of Style - End Quotes Missing
In-Reply-To: <004901c590e8$56b45b40$0201a8c0@ROLLTIDE>
Message-ID: <dcc9j3+9lt8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Bamajenny" <BamaJenny12 at y...>
wrote:
> I don't know how valid it is NOW, but back in the dark ages
> when I took creative writing, we were taught to use quotation
> marks this way. The opening quotation mark came when a person
> began speaking (obviously), but the end quotation did not come
> until that person was completely finished speaking. If paragraphs
> were necessary because of the subject, then quotations to start
> the paragraph showed that it was still the same person speaking.
> Once that person stopped speaking, the ending quotation marks
> were added. 
> Jenny
>  

Carol responds:
Exactly. An "end quote" (ending quotation mark) signals the end of the
quotation. If the end quote is missing, the quotation hasn't ended.
The same person is still speaking.

Pretty logical, actually. And speaking as a copyeditor, I can tell you
that the rule is still very much in effect.

Carol, who still can't believe that "fug" is a real word and was
bothered by an absent "from" in a sentence about Susan Bones






From joseph at kirtland.com  Fri Jul 29 04:09:08 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:09:08 -0000
Subject: Helping Muggle children ...Waking Albus Dumbledore
In-Reply-To: <dcc82p+61cl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcca54+6l1f@eGroups.com>

I'm a single adult male, 41yrs.  I've never been married, and I have 
no children.  On this message board, we share opinions about whether 
Snape acted out DD's wishes, or if he is serving LV.  JKR has stated 
in an interview that dead characters do not come back to life, and 
it is my assumption that DD is definitely dead since his portrait is 
now hanging in the headmaster's office.

I am curious at how you explain Snape to a child troubled by DD's 
apparent death?  People on this board have already expressed the 
thought that you don't simply dismiss a child's questions because 
Harry Potter is just an imaginary story.  Do you tell the child that 
DD was murdered, and explain that Snape is likely a very bad man?  
How could you explain that Snape may have been following DD's 
wishes, justifying an apparent murder?

While I certainly don't want to doubt the intelligence of a child, 
can they discern the difference between:  
1) The thought that Snape may have been fulfilling DD's wishes.
2) Snape may in fact have committed an unforgivable crime.
3) A violent gang murder on the evening news.

It seems to me that explaining DD's death might be a bit more 
complicated than explaining the passing of someone from natural 
causes.  A child is most certainly going to pick up on the AK 
incantation as well as the detailed hatred in Snape's expression.

Don't misunderstand me - I'm a Potter fanatic with the US and UK 
editions, audio CD's, standees, posters, etc.  I absolutely love the 
whole story, and think that JKR is a brilliant author.  The puzzles 
are complex enough to keep all of us guessing, agreeing, and 
disagreeing.  Then JKR drops a totally unexpected bomb, blowing away 
all previous theories. 

Joe


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Kemper wrote:
> >  
> 
> Does anyone think that JKR is doing her readers a service? WE don't
> deal much with death in our society--only objectively reported 
stories
> about strangers on the news or meaningless fictional deaths of
> characters in TV programs (this week's murder victim whose case the
> detectives will solve without any feelings for the dead person). 
When
> someone we love dies, we're afraid to talk about it because others
> don't know how to react to us. Now, at least, these children will 
have
> many others who share their grief. And maybe, when someone they 
love
> dies in real life, they'll be better able to handle it--and less
> hesitant to talk about it.
> 
> Carol, with apologies for not reading all the posts in the thread
> before composing this one






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 04:55:41 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:55:41 -0000
Subject: Speaking of Briticisms
Message-ID: <dcccsd+ce03@eGroups.com>

I'm guessing from the context that "dripping all over his Axminster"
refers to the previously mentioned fine antique rug. Or have I missed
my guess?

There were a couple of other expressions, mostly used by Ron, that I
couldn't even guess at from the context. Unfortunately, I can't
remember what they were. Did anyone else encounter these Briticisms
and draw a blank? If so, please post so we can both get unconfused.

Carol





From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Jul 29 13:57:14 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:57:14 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey SPOILER...
In-Reply-To: <dc8o16+jcsa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcdcjq+u23i@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Hockeygrrrl17 at a... wrote:
>  If Dumbledore was injured by destroying the ring 
> > ... and Dumbledore was the greatest wizard of that time ... whose 
> powers rivaled Merlin , and when Harry and Dumbledore had to go on 
that 
> dangerous adventure to retain the fake horcrux ... how is Harry going 
> to be able to do this without Dumbledore? It is going to be very hard.

But Dumbledore was injured because he wasn't quick enough - his 
reflexes and speed failed him at his age - he admitted it to Slughorn 
when he was trying to persuade him back to Hogwarts

Sarahxx





From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 16:14:44 2005
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:14:44 -0000
Subject: US translation explained by Scholastic (no spoiler here)
Message-ID: <dcdklk+7v1o@eGroups.com>

Auror Tonks on special assignment reporting in:

I wrote to a customer care person at Scholastic regarding the extra 
line in the US version of the books. She did not answer my question 
fully, which is par for the course with customer care people, but 
what she did say was interesting and I am sharing it here.  I am 
sure that this is one of those canned responses that customer care 
people love to give, but still it tells us something.

---------
Thank you very much for your recent email.  We're delighted that you 
are such an enthusiastic fan of the "Harry Potter" series.

We would like to point out that no changes are now, or have ever 
been made to the text without the complete participation and 
approval of the author, J.K. Rowling. The philosophy of the 
translations was always to give the American reader the same 
experience--or as close to the same experience as possible--as the 
British reader. In other words, the books should feel very
British. There would never be wholesale "Americanization." Changes 
would be as few as possible. However, we felt that the readers 
should be perplexed only when the author wants them to be perplexed, 
they should notice the slang only when the author wants them to 
notice the slang, and at no other times. When the Scholastic editors 
were brought up short by a word or phrase, they would query it to 
the author and would either come up with an alternative British 
phrase (not necessarily an "American" phrase), find an
acceptable translation understandable to American readers, or we 
would leave it as is.

It was our guess--now borne out by experience--that American readers 
would become progressively more familiar with the magical world that 
Ms. Rowling had created, more familiar, and thus would be better 
oriented and less likely to be confused by individual language 
differences. Therefore, there have been progressively 
fewer "translations" to the point where the US and UK texts are 
virtually identical now.

We truly appreciate your interest in J.K. Rowling and her 
wonderful "Harry Potter" series. And as always . . . Thank you for 
choosing Scholastic!

Sincerely,
----------------






From delwynmarch at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 16:33:39 2005
From: delwynmarch at yahoo.com (delwynmarch)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:33:39 -0000
Subject: Dan, Rupert, and Emma in IMDb poll
In-Reply-To: <dcbmld+t9tb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcdlp3+rdug@eGroups.com>

Carol wrote:
"For anyone who's interested, today's IMDb poll features Dan
Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint among a long list of other
"child stars" (obviously including teenagers). So far, all of them are
being thoroughly trounced by an eleven-year-old (Dakota Fanning). To
check it out, go to http://us.imdb.com/poll/"

Del replies:
I missed it, and I don't know how to get the results. But if Dakota
won, I can only say that she deserves it. I saw her in several
different productions, and she's simply AMAZING!

Del






From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 17:47:14 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:47:14 -0000
Subject: US translation explained by Scholastic (no spoiler here)
In-Reply-To: <dcdklk+7v1o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcdq32+rpau@eGroups.com>

I think a better idea would have been to make the American and British
versions identical, but to have added a glossary of "Britishisms" at
the end for those Americans unfamiliar with such words and phrases.


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
> Auror Tonks on special assignment reporting in:
> 
> I wrote to a customer care person at Scholastic regarding the extra 
> line in the US version of the books. She did not answer my question 
> fully, which is par for the course with customer care people, but 
> what she did say was interesting and I am sharing it here.  I am 
> sure that this is one of those canned responses that customer care 
> people love to give, but still it tells us something.
> 
> ---------
> Thank you very much for your recent email.  We're delighted that
you 
> are such an enthusiastic fan of the "Harry Potter" series.
> 
> We would like to point out that no changes are now, or have ever 
> been made to the text without the complete participation and 
> approval of the author, J.K. Rowling. The philosophy of the 
> translations was always to give the American reader the same 
> experience--or as close to the same experience as possible--as the 
> British reader. In other words, the books should feel very
> British. There would never be wholesale "Americanization." Changes 
> would be as few as possible. However, we felt that the readers 
> should be perplexed only when the author wants them to be
perplexed, 
> they should notice the slang only when the author wants them to 
> notice the slang, and at no other times. When the Scholastic
editors 
> were brought up short by a word or phrase, they would query it to 
> the author and would either come up with an alternative British 
> phrase (not necessarily an "American" phrase), find an
> acceptable translation understandable to American readers, or we 
> would leave it as is.
> 
> It was our guess--now borne out by experience--that American
readers 
> would become progressively more familiar with the magical world
that 
> Ms. Rowling had created, more familiar, and thus would be better 
> oriented and less likely to be confused by individual language 
> differences. Therefore, there have been progressively 
> fewer "translations" to the point where the US and UK texts are 
> virtually identical now.
> 
> We truly appreciate your interest in J.K. Rowling and her 
> wonderful "Harry Potter" series. And as always . . . Thank you for 
> choosing Scholastic!
> 
> Sincerely,
> ----------------






From k.coble at comcast.net  Fri Jul 29 17:50:03 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:50:03 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan, Rupert, and Emma in IMDb poll
In-Reply-To: <dcdlp3+rdug@eGroups.com>
References: <dcdlp3+rdug@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <9d487c5d1b630cf1f760d9d9917f8df0@comcast.net>


On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:33 AM, delwynmarch wrote:

> Carol wrote:
> "For anyone who's interested, today's IMDb poll features Dan
> Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint among a long list of other
> "child stars" (obviously including teenagers). So far, all of them are
> being thoroughly trounced by an eleven-year-old (Dakota Fanning). To
> check it out, go to http://us.imdb.com/poll/"
>
> Del replies:
> I missed it, and I don't know how to get the results. But if Dakota
> won, I can only say that she deserves it. I saw her in several
> different productions, and she's simply AMAZING!
>
> Del
>
>
there's a spread in EW about how she's the greatest actress of her 
generation.  Chick's gettin' a lot of good press.




From briggielockyer at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 18:18:49 2005
From: briggielockyer at yahoo.com (briggielockyer)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:18:49 -0000
Subject: SPOILER--Do I See A Flint?
In-Reply-To: <0IKB00HWAST4XNXC@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <dcdru9+8613@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> [Doddie]:
> | And if I'm wrong...trace the path of the maraurder's map! in 
> | COS...Harry doesn't think Filch's "squibbiness" is a factor at 
> | all...and NHN put that play in motion...just like DD's being back 
is 
> | another play NHN put in motion as well...
> | 
> | Doddie
> | (who thinks NHN can rock on with is bad self--perhaps he teaches 
> | lessons
> 
> [Lee]:
> Uh--NHN is who?  My brain lost something in the translation.
> 
 Lee,
I think the NHN is supposed to be Nearly Headless Nick. That is the 
only character I can think of with those initials.

-Brigitte






From hpfgu_elves at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul 29 19:24:51 2005
From: hpfgu_elves at yahoo.co.uk (hpfgu_elves)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:24:51 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: While the elves were busy with the main list...
Message-ID: <dcdvq3+uftc@eGroups.com>

"Pssst, come and see this."

Smiley Elf gathers the other List Elves and they peer in at the 
activity on OTC.

"What?" "I don't get it?" "What are we looking for?"

Smiley Elf shakes her head, "Don't you see all the spoilers? They're 
*everywhere*!"

The Elves nod their heads; Rylly Elf approaches and says, "They 
breed, you know."

Smiley nods knowingly, "Yes, once they're here they're nearly 
impossible to get rid of. Anyone have a solution?"

The Elves put their heads together and much muttering is heard, with 
the occasional "yes", "no" and "Are you crazy?" The huddle breaks up 
and in a collective voice they say, "We've decided that we'll just 
have to live with spoilers. After all, there's really no cure for 
them, is there?"

Smiley Elf looks up at the denizens of OTC. "So there you have it, 
fellow list members, the List Elves are declaring that OTC is now 
open for discussion of HBP?"

Penapart Elf interrupts, "Whoa - on-topic discussion of HBP should be 
on the main list!"

"...HBP-related topics that are off-topic," Smiley Elf continued, 
pointing to the corner of the room and the large object labeled: "Off-
Topic: That which does not contribute to our understanding and 
interpretation of canon."

"To those members who have read HBP and want to post comments here, 
please make sure to include *spoiler warnings* in the subject heading 
and give ample spoiler space to help out those who want to avoid 
spoilers. For those unlucky members who are still waiting for their 
translations, tread carefully and read at your own risk. The elves 
extend their apologies to anyone who was inadvertently spoiled by any 
posts here."

For the HPFGU Admin Team,
Smiley Elf






From timregan at microsoft.com  Fri Jul 29 21:21:14 2005
From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:21:14 +0100
Subject: Horcrux thriller
Message-ID: <47DA59BF3D32334DAF6A67C7508991AB02211E64@EUR-MSG-20.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

I think I know who the human horcrux is, and it is not Harry. Let's
examine the evidence

1) Having part of the soul of the Dark Lord residing inside you would
drain you of your vitality and color.
2) Voldemort's meddling in his own soul reduced his once handsome
features to "glaring red eyes and slits for nostrils" (PS/SS C17)
3) Voldemort's sense of grandeur and destiny would start to take over
your own judgements.

In short, one of Voldemort's horcruxes is Michael Jackson.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.



From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 21:39:06 2005
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha Wilkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Let's stay in touch
Message-ID: <109878574.1122673146880.JavaMail.ringo@ringo3.tickle.com>

Hi

I'm updating my address book. Please click on the link below 
and enter your contact info for me:

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I'm using a new, free service where I put in my contact info for
you, you put in your contact info for me, and everyone stays up 
to date automatically. It's surprisingly easy and useful.

Thanks for your help.

Tasha Wilkins


Don't receive any more invitations from Tasha Wilkins:
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 22:24:11 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:24:11 -0000
Subject: Dan, Rupert, and Emma in IMDb poll
In-Reply-To: <dcdlp3+rdug@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dceaab+fr0m@eGroups.com>

> Carol (earlier):
> "For anyone who's interested, today's IMDb poll features Dan
> Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint among a long list of other
> "child stars" (obviously including teenagers). So far, all of them are
> being thoroughly trounced by an eleven-year-old (Dakota Fanning). To
> check it out, go to http://us.imdb.com/poll/"
> 
> Del replied:
> I missed it, and I don't know how to get the results. But if Dakota
> won, I can only say that she deserves it. I saw her in several
> different productions, and she's simply AMAZING!


Carol responds:
Del, just click on the link above, which will take you to today's
poll, then click "See the results without voting," then click "View
previous IMDb daily polls."

Carol






From k.coble at comcast.net  Fri Jul 29 22:02:27 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:02:27 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Let's stay in touch
In-Reply-To: <109878574.1122673146880.JavaMail.ringo@ringo3.tickle.com>
References: <109878574.1122673146880.JavaMail.ringo@ringo3.tickle.com>
Message-ID: <9c389a766c939a86600a0560aa9918b2@comcast.net>

Don't anybody click on the link.  It's a virus.
On Jul 29, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Tasha Wilkins wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm updating my address book. Please click on the link below
> and enter your contact info for me:
>
> http://www.ringo.com/i.html?i=78504183x152988&homeEmail=hpfgu- 
> otchatter%40yahoogroups.com&firstName=&lastName=
>
> I'm using a new, free service where I put in my contact info for
> you, you put in your contact info for me, and everyone stays up
> to date automatically. It's surprisingly easy and useful.
>
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>
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From bruney200 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 22:40:28 2005
From: bruney200 at yahoo.com (Tasha)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Let's stay in touch
In-Reply-To: <9c389a766c939a86600a0560aa9918b2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20050729224028.62573.qmail@web40525.mail.yahoo.com>

Its not a virus

Tasha

--- Katherine Coble <k.coble at comcast.net> wrote:

> Don't anybody click on the link.  It's a virus.
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Tasha Wilkins wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm updating my address book. Please click on the
> link below
> > and enter your contact info for me:
> >
> >
>
http://www.ringo.com/i.html?i=78504183x152988&homeEmail=hpfgu-
> 
> > otchatter%40yahoogroups.com&firstName=&lastName=
> >
> > I'm using a new, free service where I put in my
> contact info for
> > you, you put in your contact info for me, and
> everyone stays up
> > to date automatically. It's surprisingly easy and
> useful.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
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> > Tasha Wilkins
> >
> >
> > Don't receive any more invitations from Tasha
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> > Don't receive any more invitations from anyone:
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From joseph at kirtland.com  Fri Jul 29 23:26:24 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:26:24 -0000
Subject: Let's stay in touch
In-Reply-To: <20050729224028.62573.qmail@web40525.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dcedv0+3sqp@eGroups.com>

No, Ringo is not a virus.  It might flag a caution in  Norton due to
the transfer of personal information.  It is a global, central
collection point for information you wish to provide.  If you change
your e-mail address or mailing address, for example, it will
automatically update the address books of any contacts that also use
the Ringo service.

Interestingly, there are other similar services (names escape me) that
send out nearly identical message requests.

It's an interesting concept, but I don't completely trust centralized
lists that maintain often confidential information.

Boy, talk about off-topic!  :-)

Joe




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Tasha <bruney200 at y...> wrote:
> Its not a virus
> 
> Tasha
> 
> --- Katherine Coble <k.coble at c...> wrote:
> 
> > Don't anybody click on the link.  It's a virus.
> > On Jul 29, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Tasha Wilkins wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I'm updating my address book. Please click on the
> > link below
> > > and enter your contact info for me:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ringo.com/i.html?i=78504183x152988&homeEmail=hpfgu-
> > 
> > > otchatter%40yahoogroups.com&firstName=&lastName=
> > >
> > > I'm using a new, free service where I put in my
> > contact info for
> > > you, you put in your contact info for me, and
> > everyone stays up
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> > useful.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Tasha Wilkins
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 23:33:17 2005
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:33:17 -0000
Subject: The Snape question (Was: Helping Muggle children) (SPOILERS!!)
In-Reply-To: <dcca54+6l1f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dceebt+ta34@eGroups.com>

Don't read this post if you haven't read HBP!

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Joe Bento wrote:
><snip>
> I am curious at how you explain Snape to a child troubled by DD's 
> apparent death?  People on this board have already expressed the 
> thought that you don't simply dismiss a child's questions because 
> Harry Potter is just an imaginary story.  Do you tell the child that 
> DD was murdered, and explain that Snape is likely a very bad man?  
> How could you explain that Snape may have been following DD's 
> wishes, justifying an apparent murder?
> 
> While I certainly don't want to doubt the intelligence of a child, 
> can they discern the difference between:  
> 1) The thought that Snape may have been fulfilling DD's wishes.
> 2) Snape may in fact have committed an unforgivable crime.
> 3) A violent gang murder on the evening news.
> 
> It seems to me that explaining DD's death might be a bit more 
> complicated than explaining the passing of someone from natural 
> causes.  A child is most certainly going to pick up on the AK 
> incantation as well as the detailed hatred in Snape's expression. <snip>

Carol responds:
Hi, Joe. I attempted to answer this post offlist because I was unsure
of the spoiler policy (thank you, List Elves!) but I don't think I did
a very good job. I was too concerned with defending Snape rather than
answering the very important question that you raised.

As earlier posts in this thread imply, a grown-up's first concern is
helping children deal with the loss of Dumbledore (whose death is not
apparent but real within the contxt of the books), but there's also
the question of how to help them deal with Snape (who unquestionably
killed him). Here are my thoughts:

Sophisticated older children who had deduced from earlier books that
Snape may be a "horrible teacher" but Dumbledore was right to trust
him may be devastated by Snape's close links to the DEs and in
particular by his killing of Dumbledore. These older children, who are
clearly skilled readers, should be encouraged to reread the book,
examining the text for clues that they may be right and Harry wrong
about Snape's motives. (Are there, or were there, any Snapefans under
the age of seventeen?)

For most children, however, especially those between nine and fourteen
or so, thoughtful parents and teachers can raise a few questions.

1)What would have happened if Snape had broken the Unbreakable Vow? 
(Answer: He would have died.)
2)Would his death have saved Dumbledore? (Answer: No. Dumbledore would
have been killed by the Death Eaters, including the horrible Fenrir
Grayback.)
3)What does keeping his vow allow Snape to do that he could not have
done if he'd died breaking it? (Answer: Keep his promise to help and
protect Draco.)
4) Could Snape's expression of hatred and revulsion, which seems to
mean that he hates Dumbledore, mean something else? (Answer: It
*could* mean that he hates having to kill him. This one may require a
rewording of the question to elicit the right answer.)
5) Is it possible that Snape isn't evil? Why do you think so? (Correct
answer for the child, as opposed to the adult asking the question, is
whatever the child thinks it is.)

If the child is still convinced that Snape is evil (So what if he
saved Draco? Draco's evil, too!), the parent or teacher could ask

1) Why do you think JKR has evil characters in her books? 
2) Why does it matter that Dumbledore is killed by Snape and not by
another Death Eater?
3) What do you think should happen when Harry meets Snape?
4) Is it all right for Harry to kill Snape with an Avada Kedavra or is
Snape right that Harry should not use Unforgiveable Curses? Why do you
think so?

And if all else fails, the parent or teacher could ask the child to
write an essay called "Why I Hate Severus Snape." At least that would
allow the child to espress his or her ideas and at the same time find
an outlet for outraged feelings.)

What do you think, Joe? Anybody? Would these ideas work? If not, how
would you help a child deal with hatred of a fictional character?
("Don't worry about it. Snape's not real" is not going to solve the
problem.)

Carol, who really needs some answers to this question








From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Fri Jul 29 23:34:50 2005
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:34:50 -0000
Subject: Can a lifedebt be transferred?
Message-ID: <dceeeq+o143@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon:
No canon here, just curiosity. If this is possible perhaps James 
transferred Snapes lifedebt to Harry; this would explain Snapes 
protectiveness of Harry while still seemingly hating him. This could 
also have played a part in why Harry survived the AK. If anyone could 
have interfered other than Lily it would have been Snape. Has this 
been discussed?





From joseph at kirtland.com  Fri Jul 29 23:54:50 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:54:50 -0000
Subject: Can a lifedebt be transferred?
In-Reply-To: <dceeeq+o143@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcefka+n24a@eGroups.com>

I think Snape's dislike of Harry is simply because of who Harry is -
James' son.  When Snape looks at Harry, he sees an image of James.  
While the picture is not quite complete (HBP opens some new
questions), we understand that Snape's hatred comes from the bullying
of James and his friends.  Snape may see the touch of Lily in Harry's
eyes as well - a girl he possibly loved, but could never have.  Harry,
like James, is also popular.  Snape obviously has some painful
memories, and still holds grudges.  While Harry is not James, and
Harry is not a bully, he still has many of the qualities of his father
that Snape dislikes.

While I don't believe Snape owes a life debt to Harry, I think Snape
ultimately understands what role Harry must play in the final battle.
 While there hasn't been anything to really suggest it, I do think
Snape would protect Harry with his own life - not because of a
promise, unless it is a yet unknown promise made to Dumbledore, but
because Snape understands what the final outcome must be.

Joe



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda" <luckdragon64 at y...>
wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> No canon here, just curiosity. If this is possible perhaps James 
> transferred Snapes lifedebt to Harry; this would explain Snapes 
> protectiveness of Harry while still seemingly hating him. This could 
> also have played a part in why Harry survived the AK. If anyone could 
> have interfered other than Lily it would have been Snape. Has this 
> been discussed?





From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 30 00:48:00 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:48:00 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Snape question (Was: Helping Muggle children) (SPOILERS!!)
In-Reply-To: <dceebt+ta34@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e501c594a0$56915350$0400a8c0@pensive>

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Carol,

Though I disagree with you on the matter of Snape, your ideas are pretty
good.  If i had kids who were questioning the things we adults are all
questioning, I might use some of your suggestions.  On the other hand, due
to my very strong feelings about the absolute wrongness of what happened, I
don't think i could ever go that far, but then I don't have kids.  One of
the reasons I'm in the Snape is evil camp, is that it troubles me deeply to
send a message to kids that there could *ever* be an acceptable reason to
take the life of another person.  I want Snape to be evil because I can't
justify the deliberate killing of another for any reason that has yet been
proposed by people who think Snape is still a good guy.  Even in war time,
when soldiers must kill, it is a serious crime if a soldier kills its own
men, and especially the general, maybe in our terms, the secretary of
defense.  My best friends have three boys who read the Potter books, ages
11, 13 and 15.  they seem to take the events in the book in stride, just
something that happens in a book, part of the story.  But then, neither of
them is particularly sensitive.  I think that in many ways, the question of
how to deal with Snape is probably harder than how to deal with the death of
Dumbledore.  Some kids might actually find comfort in deciding that an evil
abusive teacher was really evil all along, so they don't have the issues of
trying to understand how he can be so incredibly cruel but still be a good
guy.  When I was a child, i would easily have accepted Snape as bad.  He
killed. He's bad.  i guess i haven't changed much in some ways since
childhood!  LOL.  I was a definite fence sitter about Snape before HBP.  I
despised him, and if I was a witch with children at Hogwarts, I'd have been
screaming about his treatment of non Slytherin kids.  But I believed
Dumbledore knew best.  Now, I'm firmly on the side of the fence that says
Snape is bad, evil right to the center of his being, all because of the
murder of Dumbledore.  The only way I'll probably ever change my mind is if
it turns out that Dumbledore isn't really dead at all, and the whole thing
was an elaborate hoax.  I'd be furious at that, but relieved too.  However,
if he's really dead, then it's just simple murder to me, not brave, not
honorable.  I think that's how I'd present it to kids, that some people are
bad and do terrible things that we can't understand.  But that it isn't the
way most people are.  Just thinking off the cuff of what I'd say to my
friends' boys or to my nieces and nephews if the question ever comes up.
Almost anything else Snape could have done could have been justified in my
mind, but not the killing.  Sigh.  

As we've been discussing this, several have said that it wouldn't be good to
remind the kids that it is just a book and the characters aren't real.
While I agree that the genuine emotions the book brings out shouldn't be
squashed by such statements, i also don't see a problem with talking about
their feelings and then reminding them that it is just a book, that
Dumbledore isn't actually real.  After all, if kids were scared by a
nightmare about vampires, we would certainly tell them that vampires aren't
real, even while still acknowledging the fear from the nightmare.

This subject really does make me think and bring some difficult questions to
my mind.  I'm going to have to email my friends' oldest son and find out how
he felt about the book's shocking climax.

Sherry




-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 4:33 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Snape question (Was: Helping Muggle children)
(SPOILERS!!)


Don't read this post if you haven't read HBP!

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Joe Bento wrote:
><snip>
> I am curious at how you explain Snape to a child troubled by DD's 
> apparent death?  People on this board have already expressed the 
> thought that you don't simply dismiss a child's questions because 
> Harry Potter is just an imaginary story.  Do you tell the child that 
> DD was murdered, and explain that Snape is likely a very bad man?  
> How could you explain that Snape may have been following DD's 
> wishes, justifying an apparent murder?
> 
> While I certainly don't want to doubt the intelligence of a child, 
> can they discern the difference between:  
> 1) The thought that Snape may have been fulfilling DD's wishes.
> 2) Snape may in fact have committed an unforgivable crime.
> 3) A violent gang murder on the evening news.
> 
> It seems to me that explaining DD's death might be a bit more 
> complicated than explaining the passing of someone from natural 
> causes.  A child is most certainly going to pick up on the AK 
> incantation as well as the detailed hatred in Snape's expression. <snip>

Carol responds:
Hi, Joe. I attempted to answer this post offlist because I was unsure
of the spoiler policy (thank you, List Elves!) but I don't think I did
a very good job. I was too concerned with defending Snape rather than
answering the very important question that you raised.

As earlier posts in this thread imply, a grown-up's first concern is
helping children deal with the loss of Dumbledore (whose death is not
apparent but real within the contxt of the books), but there's also
the question of how to help them deal with Snape (who unquestionably
killed him). Here are my thoughts:

Sophisticated older children who had deduced from earlier books that
Snape may be a "horrible teacher" but Dumbledore was right to trust
him may be devastated by Snape's close links to the DEs and in
particular by his killing of Dumbledore. These older children, who are
clearly skilled readers, should be encouraged to reread the book,
examining the text for clues that they may be right and Harry wrong
about Snape's motives. (Are there, or were there, any Snapefans under
the age of seventeen?)

For most children, however, especially those between nine and fourteen
or so, thoughtful parents and teachers can raise a few questions.

1)What would have happened if Snape had broken the Unbreakable Vow? 
(Answer: He would have died.)
2)Would his death have saved Dumbledore? (Answer: No. Dumbledore would
have been killed by the Death Eaters, including the horrible Fenrir
Grayback.)
3)What does keeping his vow allow Snape to do that he could not have
done if he'd died breaking it? (Answer: Keep his promise to help and
protect Draco.)
4) Could Snape's expression of hatred and revulsion, which seems to
mean that he hates Dumbledore, mean something else? (Answer: It
*could* mean that he hates having to kill him. This one may require a
rewording of the question to elicit the right answer.)
5) Is it possible that Snape isn't evil? Why do you think so? (Correct
answer for the child, as opposed to the adult asking the question, is
whatever the child thinks it is.)

If the child is still convinced that Snape is evil (So what if he
saved Draco? Draco's evil, too!), the parent or teacher could ask

1) Why do you think JKR has evil characters in her books? 
2) Why does it matter that Dumbledore is killed by Snape and not by
another Death Eater?
3) What do you think should happen when Harry meets Snape?
4) Is it all right for Harry to kill Snape with an Avada Kedavra or is
Snape right that Harry should not use Unforgiveable Curses? Why do you
think so?

And if all else fails, the parent or teacher could ask the child to
write an essay called "Why I Hate Severus Snape." At least that would
allow the child to espress his or her ideas and at the same time find
an outlet for outraged feelings.)

What do you think, Joe? Anybody? Would these ideas work? If not, how
would you help a child deal with hatred of a fictional character?
("Don't worry about it. Snape's not real" is not going to solve the
problem.)

Carol, who really needs some answers to this question








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From joseph at kirtland.com  Sat Jul 30 00:54:42 2005
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:54:42 -0000
Subject: Dark Arts / Terrorism
Message-ID: <dcej4i+qcgu@eGroups.com>

My reply originated with a post on HPfGU.  Since this delves into
off-topic territory, I moved it over here.

Replace Dark Arts with terrorists, and with such a speech JKR could
stand a good chance of running for Prime Minister.

While JKR has said she has not conscientiously altered her story
around the war on terror, there are certainly parallels.  Voldermort
certainly appears to be an unstoppable and growing evil.

If the attacks in London, the World Trade Centre, and the ongoing war
in Iraq weren't so terrible and serious, one might think of Lord
Voldermort gaining power.  Obviously I'm joking, as it would be
terribly wrong to trivialize the attacks and deaths that have occurred.  

Has anyone else observed any parallels between the books and real
world terrorism - the muggle equivalent of the Dark Arts?

Joe
 


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> Snape Quote:
> "The Dark Arts are many, varied, ever-changing and eternal. Fighting 
> them is like fighting a many-headed monster, which, each time a neck 
> is severed, sprouts a head even fiercer and cleverer than before. You 
> are fighting that which is unfixed, mutating, indestructible." 
> 
> vmonte:
> You think he might be talking about himself?
> 
> Vivian






From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 01:55:59 2005
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:55:59 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation *S*P*O*I*L*E*R*
Message-ID: <dcemnf+103k@eGroups.com>

*
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Since I finished reading HBP I've been thinking, How do you 
pronounce HORCRUX? I've always pronounced it with a silent H, but 
since I haven't heard the interviews Jo gave (I read them), and I 
don't own the audio version, I was wondering if someone coul 
enlighten me.

Thanks

Juli






From IAmLordCassandra at aol.com  Sat Jul 30 01:57:52 2005
From: IAmLordCassandra at aol.com (IAmLordCassandra at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:57:52 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pronunciation *S*P*O*I*L*E*R*
Message-ID: <12c.62cb1545.301c38a0@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/29/2005 9:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jlnbtr at yahoo.com writes:

*
*
*
*
P
*
O
*
I
*
L
*
E
*
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*
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Since  I finished reading HBP I've been thinking, How do you 
pronounce HORCRUX?  I've always pronounced it with a silent H, but 
since I haven't heard the  interviews Jo gave (I read them), and I 
don't own the audio version, I was  wondering if someone coul 
enlighten  me.

Thanks


In the American audio books it's pronounced Hor-crucks.  And to avoid  having 
a one line answer, I'm going to write about how I'm avoiding a one line  
answer.  Hope that helped. 
 

~Cassie~ 


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 02:46:42 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:46:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday x 2!
Message-ID: <20050730024642.15753.qmail@web41124.mail.yahoo.com>

*hangs brand new streamers, surveys the decorations
and adds a finishing touch of multi-coloured fairy
lights*

After all that partying, is anyone up for a bit more
fun? Yes? I thought you might be!

Today's birthday honourees are Stacey Mateo and
Tonks_op. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list
or directly to Stacey at: staceymateo at gmail.com and to
Tonks at: tonks_op at yahoo.com

I hope you've both had magical days that brought
everything you wished for.

Happy Birthday, Stacey!
Happy Birthday, Tonks!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From rbookworm46 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 02:58:24 2005
From: rbookworm46 at yahoo.com (rbookworm46)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:58:24 -0000
Subject: Speaking of Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dcccsd+ce03@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dceqcg+2p89@eGroups.com>

Carol wrote:
> I'm guessing from the context that "dripping all over his 
Axminster"
> refers to the previously mentioned fine antique rug. Or have I
missed
> my guess?
> 
> There were a couple of other expressions, mostly used by Ron, that 
I
> couldn't even guess at from the context. Unfortunately, I can't
> remember what they were. Did anyone else encounter these Briticisms
> and draw a blank? If so, please post so we can both get unconfused.

I don't remember any particular expressions off hand, but I remember 
an Axminster being mentioned.  In one of the earlier books (I think
it was GoF), there was a discussion of flying carpets and Fudge said
that his grandfather used to have an Axminster that seated 12 - 
before they were illegal, of course!

Ravenclaw Bookworm





From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 11:01:01 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:01:01 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Birthday x 2!
In-Reply-To: <20050730024642.15753.qmail@web41124.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050730024642.15753.qmail@web41124.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac8005073004016f8c94d1@mail.gmail.com>

Happy birthday, Stacey and Tonks!
I hope you both had a great party and some delicious cake!
Kathrin
 On 7/30/05, Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> *hangs brand new streamers, surveys the decorations
> and adds a finishing touch of multi-coloured fairy
> lights*
> 
> After all that partying, is anyone up for a bit more
> fun? Yes? I thought you might be!
> 
> Today's birthday honourees are Stacey Mateo and
> Tonks_op. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list
> or directly to Stacey at: staceymateo at gmail.com and to
> Tonks at: tonks_op at yahoo.com
> 
> I hope you've both had magical days that brought
> everything you wished for.
> 
> Happy Birthday, Stacey!
> Happy Birthday, Tonks!
> 
> Sheryll the Birthday Elf
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From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 11:09:46 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:09:46 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey
In-Reply-To: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
References: <dbu6ck+73d5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050730040926c951c4@mail.gmail.com>

My answers: ***

On 7/23/05, Brenda <luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> I'm hoping this will give us a clear idea of how we are all feeling 
> about the happenings in book 6 and what we expect of book 7. Just 
> for fun:
> 
> 1) Is Dumbledore truly dead?
*** yes, but he will still be there for Harry through the painting
> 
> 2) Do you believe Snape betrayed Dumbledore?
*** no, as I think I already said, I think the whole part was arranged
by Dumbledore...
> 
> 3) Are Lupin & Tonks really a couple or is this a red herring?
*** a red herring for what??? I'd be glad to see them both happy!
> 
> 4) Who loved Snape? Has Snape loved anyone?
*** against everyone else's opinion: there's someone out there whol
oved Snape, but I don't know who - and I think maybe Snape once had a
crush on Lily...
> 
> 5) Will any of the trio die?
*** what kiddie lit would this be with one of the heroes dying?
> 
> 6) Will Harry & Ginny reunite?
*** I hope so
> 
> 7) Will any/all of the trio go back to Hogwarts for book 7?
*** all three, but I don't know when Harry will go back (probably not
right from day 1?) and who will persuade him to come back
> 
> 8) Is Harry's scar a horcrux?
*** no, I don't think so, but it's just one of those feelings...
> 
> 9) Why wasn't Fawkes seen in any of DD's memories?
*** no clue, sorry!
> 
> 10) Which major characters are most likely to die in book 7?
*** maybe Snape sacrifices his life for Harry? 
> 
> 11) Will DD's portrait be able to help Harry? 
*** yes!
> 
> 12) What role will McGongall play in book 7?
*** headmistress and she'll help Harry
> 
> 13) Will Harry go back to the Dursley's as he is supposed to? 
*** I hope not, but I suppose he will do it anyway - after all, that
was what DD wanted him to do...
> 
> 14) Will the DA or OOTP reform to help Harry?
*** I hope so - and please both!
> 
> 15) Will Wormtail repay his lifedebt?
*** I hope so
> 
> 16) Will the imprisoned Deatheaters escape from Azkaban?
*** I'm afraid they will, but they won't be out for too long
> 
> 17) Will Kreacher hinder or aid Harry if he appears in book 7?
*** he's a pain in the a**, so he certainly won't help unless Harry
orders him to do so the way he did with spying on Draco...
> 
> 18) What is your take on Harry having "his mothers eyes"?
*** it is important - maybe something magical?
> 
> 19) Did Snape actually help LV at Godric's Hollow?
*** not sure, I thinj he might have helped Voldy, but saved Harry's live, also


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From delwynmarch at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 11:15:46 2005
From: delwynmarch at yahoo.com (delwynmarch)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:15:46 -0000
Subject: Dan, Rupert, and Emma in IMDb poll
In-Reply-To: <dceaab+fr0m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcfnh2+2lp7@eGroups.com>

Thanks Carol for the link :-) And Dakota won all right. I noticed that
Tom Felton was also in the list. And I was a bit sad that Rupert Grint
received less votes than either Emma or Daniel. Personally, I think
he's the best actor of the 3. But that's just me :-)

Del






From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 30 16:15:09 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:15:09 -0000
Subject: Speaking of Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dcccsd+ce03@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcg92d+6smu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> I'm guessing from the context that "dripping all over his Axminster"
> refers to the previously mentioned fine antique rug. Or have I missed
> my guess?

Here, this should tell you everything you didn't want to know about 
Axminsters!!!   Well you did ask!

Karen

http://www.axminster.carpetinfo.co.uk/





From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 30 16:22:15 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:22:15 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <20050728004901.1899.qmail@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dcg9fn+fk38@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Rod McFadden <rgmcf at y...> 
wrote:
> I confess to having muffed 'chuffed'.  Comes from a former          
> Commonwealth citizen who's a friend of mine and who uses it to      
> mean 'irritated.'  I shall add a dose of cayenne pepper to his      
> coffee.

Well it seems to be one of those extremely irritating words that can 
mean both.  I personally would only use it in the positive as in "I 
was really chuffed with the flowers you gave me", but have noticed 
that a much older man at work says "So and so really chuffed me off" 
where I would use "so and so really p***ed me off".

Karen





From lord1912 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 16:49:14 2005
From: lord1912 at yahoo.com (slytherin_dragoon1)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:49:14 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dcg9fn+fk38@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcgb2a+eied@eGroups.com>


> Well it seems to be one of those extremely irritating words that can 
> mean both.  I personally would only use it in the positive as in "I 
> was really chuffed with the flowers you gave me", but have noticed 
> that a much older man at work says "So and so really chuffed me off" 
> where I would use "so and so really p***ed me off".
> 
> Karen

"Chuffed" sounds very close to "huffed", and in the US to say that
someone "left in a huff" means they were rather perturbed or peeved. 
So, to an American, "chuffed" would suggest irritation.






From k.coble at comcast.net  Sat Jul 30 16:59:24 2005
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:59:24 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <dcgb2a+eied@eGroups.com>
References: <dcgb2a+eied@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8f16185b5962012d9e427b336096ada@comcast.net>


On Jul 30, 2005, at 11:49 AM, slytherin_dragoon1 wrote:

>
>> Well it seems to be one of those extremely irritating words that can
>> mean both.  I personally would only use it in the positive as in "I
>> was really chuffed with the flowers you gave me", but have noticed
>> that a much older man at work says "So and so really chuffed me off"
>> where I would use "so and so really p***ed me off".
>>
>> Karen
>
> "Chuffed" sounds very close to "huffed", and in the US to say that
> someone "left in a huff" means they were rather perturbed or peeved.
> So, to an American, "chuffed" would suggest irritation.
>
>

I've also seen American writers (Dean Koontz and James Rollins) use 
"chuff" to describe the noise that horses and dogs make when they 
expell air through closed mouths.  (I'm not describing the action well, 
but if you have a dog and have ever had him do his version of snorting 
at you...this is what they mean...)

Dictionary.com gives 3 meanings for Chuff--1. A very rude person, 2. A 
noisy puffing or explosive sound, 3. blow hard and loudly.

I suppose that given these three concrete definitions the word can go 
either way.

If you are ticked off, you would be blowing hard and loudly.  So you 
could say you were "chuffed". (Slang often consists of reapplying a 
known word outside of its concrete meaning.  Using a standard verb as a 
noun or adjective, for instance. )

If you are pleased, you could say that you were "Chuffed" in the same 
way you would say "I was blown away."  Idiomatically, "blown away" does 
mean 'pleased', although the concrete definition of 'blown away' is 
hardly a pleasing thought.

In the books Hagrid says he's "dead chuffed" at a point when he is 
obviously pleased about something.  Literally, both 'dead' and 
'chuffed' are at best neutral in connotation, and at worst negative.  
Although idiomatically it appears that they can be used to express joy. 
  (Like people saying "D--n" when they're pleased, or to throw back to 
the 80's, 'Gnarly').

Katherine the Word Geek




From gbannister10 at aol.com  Sat Jul 30 22:14:06 2005
From: gbannister10 at aol.com (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:14:06 -0000
Subject: Briticisms
In-Reply-To: <c8f16185b5962012d9e427b336096ada@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <dcgu3e+1ngh@eGroups.com>

I've only just picked up on this thread since I seem to be running 
round like a headless chicken keeping up with the main group posts!

I speak as a native English speaker, considered to have a good 
command of the language. I have moved in my own professional group of 
teachers and have obviously worked with pupils and members of church 
youth groups as well as socialising with a wide range of other folk 
and so can use my native language quite naturally in formal, informal 
or idiomatic situations.

Firstly, to consider the 'lavatorial' discussions. I cannot recall 
hearing a native UK English speaker talk about going to the bathroom 
when he or she meant the toilet. You go to the bathroom to have a 
wash or a bath (or a shower). Normal practice is to say (formally) 
that you are going to the toilet or (informally) to the loo - among 
other casual names! Again, a cloakroom is a place to put your coats, 
in a school or a public building or even at home.

If you want to go to the toilet, the usual question is "May I use 
your toilet?" or, in an informal situation, "May I use your loo?" or 
in a public area asking, say, a member of staff, "Can you tell me 
where the toilets are please?"

WC is used on plans or sometimes on direction signs in public 
buildings. At one time, the word 'loo' was not considered polite. I 
can rememebr being very surprised when my future mother-in-law - who 
was quite formal in her speech - referred to the loo many years  ago. 
Nowadays, it is used almost universally. 

Secondly, moving on to 'chuffed'. I would use the word in the sense 
of being /extremely/ pleased or satisfied with something that had 
happened. 

The dictionary I use most defines it as:
Brit.informal delighted giving the etymology as being from a dialect 
word...though I don't know which regional dialect.





From juli17 at aol.com  Sun Jul 31 00:13:22 2005
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:13:22 EDT
Subject: Dark Arts / Terrorism
Message-ID: <e1.186a9ddd.301d71a2@aol.com>

 
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My  reply originated with a post on HPfGU.  Since this delves  into
off-topic territory, I moved it over here.

Replace Dark Arts  with terrorists, and with such a speech JKR could
stand a good chance of  running for Prime Minister.

While JKR has said she has not  conscientiously altered her story
around the war on terror, there are  certainly parallels.  Voldermort
certainly appears to be an  unstoppable and growing evil.

If the attacks in London, the World Trade  Centre, and the ongoing war
in Iraq weren't so terrible and serious, one  might think of Lord
Voldermort gaining power.  Obviously I'm joking,  as it would be
terribly wrong to trivialize the attacks and deaths that  have occurred.  

Has anyone else observed any parallels between  the books and real
world terrorism - the muggle equivalent of the Dark  Arts?

Joe



Julie says:
The part of HBP I feel fairly certain JKR inserted *post* 9/11 and  the
various responses to that terrible tragedy have more to do with the
Ministry than the Dark Arts. Obviously the Dark Arts can substitute
for terrorism of many kinds, not just Muslim extremist terrorism, but
also that of dictators who kill huge numbers of citizens who don't
support their regimes, the long-standing terrorist activities within
Palestine and Israel, the past terrorist methods of the IRA, etc, 
etc, etc. 
 
But what seems most tied to the terrorism of today is the climate
of fear and distrust that permeates the Ministry, and their response
of ignoring human/wizard rights in the name of security. This is 
particularly evident in the extended incarceration of Stan  Shunpike
and others, arrested on dubious charges, and denied any kind
of recourse such proof of evidence or a quick trial. (Shades of
Guantanamo Bay and other places.)
 
I could be wrong, and JKR always had this bit planned, but I
really suspect this is something that came to her later. 
 
Julie
(who applauds the inclusion of these scenes,  BTW)


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From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sun Jul 31 01:21:43 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:21:43 +1000
Subject: flint? - vanishing cabinet - I don't think so
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKDCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Hi all

The questions about vanishing cabinet could be explained in this way:

Peeves broke a vanishing cabinet. This vanishing cabinet was put in the room
of requirement.

vanishing cabinets come in pairs (or more, that is particular vanishing
cabinets are linked to each other)

there is another vanishing cabinet in Hogwarts. This is the pair of the
broken one and the one the twins used.

As the 'pair' was broken the twins' victim could not get out but was stuck
in vanishing cabinet purgatory (for want of a better word). Think of it like
the floo network, only instead of being able to get off at any fireplace
only certain stops are permitted.

Vanishing cabinet purgatory is not 'in' hogwarts so the character could
appareate out of it.

Malfoy's 'fix' of the vanishing cabinet was to realign the one in the room
of requirement to make the one at the shop it's 'pair'.

storm, very tired and concrete, hoping the OOP reference doesn't refer to
the broken vanishing cabinet because the theory will then fall to pieces.


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 02:19:39 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:19:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday, Christian!
Message-ID: <20050731021939.41078.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>

*scurries to hang streamers while blowing up balloons,
with one eye on the clock all the while*

Whew, made it! I'm cutting it *really* close here, as
Christian has likely gone to bed already and will have
to join the party in the morning. Sorry, Christian!

As you've gathered by now, today's birthday honouree
is Christian. Birthday owls can be sent care of this
list or directly to Christian at:
pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no

I hope you had a wonderful day that brought everything
you hoped for.

Happy Birthday, Christian!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, who can attest that
Christian does exist (despite his fondness for veils
of mystery) <vbg>

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 31 04:02:12 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 31 Jul 2005 04:02:12 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1122782532.42.53592.m35@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 31, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul 31 12:10:19 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:10:19 -0000
Subject: Birthday observation
Message-ID: <dcif3b+dman@eGroups.com>

First of all Happy Birthday to Jo - it's so funny that you share your 
birthday with 'the chosen one' (!!!)
Anyway, after hurrying to Jo's website I came to the conclusion that 
despite all our fears and predictions - Harry MUST live to the end of 
book 7.
I may be wrong, and way off the mark, but I'm sure that the only 
birthdays noted on Jo's website are those of people still living.  
Please do correct me if I'm wrong (please), but I've never seen 
Sirius's birthday noted, and do we know when book 6's victims birthday 
is?  I think not (well, at least I can't find reference to it at the 
Lexicon - and they know everything!)
Do you think it bodes well, therefore that Harry is there today?  Do 
you think he really is 25 today?
And if he is 25, is he an Auror, a werewolf, or, as predicted by me - 
running a restaurant from the renovated ruins of Godric's hollow?

Sarah xx






From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul 31 12:47:42 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:47:42 -0000
Subject: Another Observation
Message-ID: <dcih9e+dai1@eGroups.com>

And while I'm being thoroughly observant (for a change), I have noticed 
that John Williams has not done the score for Goblet of Fire, and it's 
someone called Patrick Doyle (who did Gosford Park and Bridget Jones).  
This information has upset me somewhat; I'm sure this bloke is 
perfectly good, and will do a splendid job, but I like John Williams.  
The thing that worries me is - will we still get 'Hedwig's Theme' or 
will it all be revamped totally?
I'm rather partial to what I consider to be the Harry Potter theme and 
it just won't be the same if it's not there.
I will have to go and check the tease trailer

http://harrypotter.warnerbros.co.uk/gobletoffire/

and get back to you on my findings
Sarah xx






From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sun Jul 31 13:45:17 2005
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:45:17 +1000
Subject: Webpage updates
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPAEKKCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Have a look at the 'extras' page - via the wine glass.

cheers all

Happy birthday to the boy who lived!

storm
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 31 15:03:28 2005
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 31 Jul 2005 15:03:28 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Weekly Chat 
Message-ID: <1122822208.15.16499.m31@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Weekly Chat 

Date: Sunday, July 31, 2005 
Time: 11:00AM CDT (GMT-05:00) 

Hi, everyone!

Just a reminder: 

Drop in to Sunday chat! 

Start time:
11 am Pacific
12 pm Mountain
1 pm Central
2 pm Eastern 
7 pm UK time 

Chat generally goes on for about 5 hours, but can last as long
as people want it to last.  Since Yahoo has closed all
user-created chat rooms, we are now using the Chat feature on
the main list:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat

Hope to see you there! 

 





From entropymail at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 15:03:55 2005
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:03:55 -0000
Subject: Wondering about hiding...
Message-ID: <dcip8r+ep0c@eGroups.com>

Dumbledore mentions to Draco that the Order has ways of hiding people
from the DEs, intimating that they could "fake" his (Draco's) death in
a way that he would never be found out.  

This got me to thinking. Dumbledore seems to be talking about this as
if it is a tried-and-true method of hiding, and I wonder just who we
know who may be in hiding already.  Of course, my first pick for a
faked death would be Sirius -- Grimmauld Place was just not working
out for him anymore.  But what about Regulus? He seems an awfully good
candidate, and I could see him popping into Harry's life as a sort of
Sirius-substitute. And perhaps Aberforth. We don't know much about him
at all (yet!). 

In addition, this hiding business brings to mind the Quibbler article
in which Doris Purkiss reveals that Sirius Black is actually Stubby
Boardman, lead singer of the Hobgoblins. Just how closely does Regulus
resemble his brother Sirius, anyway?

:: Entropy ::





From entropymail at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 15:18:17 2005
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:18:17 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation *S*P*O*I*L*E*R*
In-Reply-To: <12c.62cb1545.301c38a0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <dciq3p+vhdn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, IAmLordCassandra at a... wrote:
>  
> In the American audio books it's pronounced Hor-crucks.  

Ugh. What an awkward little word. I've tried to anagram it, Latin-root
it, and check constellations. But nothing seems to give me any further
understanding of why JKR used this particularly ugly word. Any help?

:: Entropy ::

By the way, anyone out there have a gmail invite? Please let me know
if you do. Thanks.






From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 15:52:04 2005
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:52:04 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pronunciation *S*P*O*I*L*E*R*
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Message-ID: <d4a040d050731085234501c57@mail.gmail.com>

I sent you an invite!!

Tonya

On 7/31/05, entropymail <entropymail at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, IAmLordCassandra at a... wrote:
> >  
> > In the American audio books it's pronounced Hor-crucks.  
> 
> Ugh. What an awkward little word. I've tried to anagram it, Latin-root
> it, and check constellations. But nothing seems to give me any further
> understanding of why JKR used this particularly ugly word. Any help?
> 
> :: Entropy ::
> 
> By the way, anyone out there have a gmail invite? Please let me know
> if you do. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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From dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 16:11:07 2005
From: dudemom_2000 at yahoo.com (dudemom_2000)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:11:07 -0000
Subject: flint? - vanishing cabinet - I don't think so
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKDCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <dcit6r+2l16@eGroups.com>

Message 28513 
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at b...> 
wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> The questions about vanishing cabinet could be explained in this 
way:
> 
> Peeves broke a vanishing cabinet. This vanishing cabinet was put 
in the room of requirement.

*****\(@@)/*****
I agree with you there about Peeves breaking the cabinet. I wonder, 
though, if the cabinet wasn't already broken as far as what it could 
do. I find it hard to believe that such an item would be allowed in 
Hogwarts unless it were disabled. I suspect that the cabinet 
was "repaired" physically after it was broken but continued to be 
magically broken and put in storage/lumber room etc. where junk 
goes. 
> 
Storm:> vanishing cabinets come in pairs (or more, that is 
particular vanishing cabinets are linked to each other) there is 
another vanishing cabinet in Hogwarts. This is the pair of the 
broken one and the one the twins used.

*****\(@@)/*****
Somehow these cabinets got separated. I don't think they were 
particularly dark magic items, just junk furniture once they were 
disabled. Possibly once the cabinets became separated and lost, one 
or it appears that both were disabled to prevent use. (or maybe the 
magic involved got "old" or wore off)
 
Storm:> As the 'pair' was broken the twins' victim could not get out 
but was stuck in vanishing cabinet purgatory (for want of a better 
word). Think of it like the floo network, only instead of being able 
to get off at any fireplace only certain stops are permitted.
> 
> Vanishing cabinet purgatory is not 'in' hogwarts so the character 
could apparate out of it.

*****\(@@)/*****
Possibly you are right here OR we have found a weakness at Hogwarts! 
The plumbing has let in stuff before..........*cough*basilisk*cough*
> 
Storm:> Malfoy's 'fix' of the vanishing cabinet was to realign the 
one in the room of requirement to make the one at the shop 
it's 'pair'.

*****\(@@)/*****

I may be wrong here, but didn't Malfoy also tell Borgin to repair 
the cabinet in the shop and hold it for him? 

> storm, very tired and concrete, hoping the OOP reference doesn't 
refer to the broken vanishing cabinet because the theory will then 
fall to pieces.

*****\(@@)/*****
I believe the cabinet was in a junk room and the reason it appeared 
with all the other stuff in the Room of Requirement was that Malfoy 
needed to find the junk/discarded items and requested that, so the 
Room of Requirement gave it to him and he was able to find the 
cabinet. 

Dudemom_2000

*****\(@@)/*****






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 31 16:16:13 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:16:13 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Observation
In-Reply-To: <dcih9e+dai1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c595eb$2ccfb470$da21f204@pensive>

He also did the music to Sense and Sensibility, and that is beautiful music.
But I'm with you, I'd miss The well loved HP theme if it's not there.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:48 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Observation


And while I'm being thoroughly observant (for a change), I have noticed 
that John Williams has not done the score for Goblet of Fire, and it's 
someone called Patrick Doyle (who did Gosford Park and Bridget Jones).  
This information has upset me somewhat; I'm sure this bloke is 
perfectly good, and will do a splendid job, but I like John Williams.  
The thing that worries me is - will we still get 'Hedwig's Theme' or 
will it all be revamped totally?
I'm rather partial to what I consider to be the Harry Potter theme and 
it just won't be the same if it's not there.
I will have to go and check the tease trailer

http://harrypotter.warnerbros.co.uk/gobletoffire/

and get back to you on my findings
Sarah xx






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From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sun Jul 31 17:57:38 2005
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Bee Chase)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book 6 survey/reply to Lee
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I'll play. :-)  Incidentally, does Luckdragon come from "The Never Ending
Story?" :-)

Luckdragon:

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul 31 18:07:04 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:07:04 -0000
Subject: Another Observation
In-Reply-To: <dcih9e+dai1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcj408+e2ho@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:

> I will have to go and check the tease trailer
> 
> http://harrypotter.warnerbros.co.uk/gobletoffire/
> 
> and get back to you on my findings
> Sarah xx

Replying to my own post which is really rather bad form but ...
I checked the teaser trailer and although the music is much 'edgier'-
 'Hedwigs theme' seems to be intact (at the end of the trailer as 
Dumbledore (>sighs wistfully) is telling Harry that he must make a 
choice of to either do what is right or what is easy.  Go for the easy 
option, Harry; it'll save an awful lot of heartache later, believe me.

Sarah xx (relieved, but willing to accept changes because John Williams 
has obviously been very busy lately with War of the Worlds etc etc)





From plungy116 at aol.com  Sun Jul 31 18:14:56 2005
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:14:56 -0000
Subject: Webpage updates
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPAEKKCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <dcj4f0+4j9p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at b...> wrote:
> Have a look at the 'extras' page - via the wine glass.
> 
> cheers all
> 
> Happy birthday to the boy who lived!
> 
> storm

What's there?  I'm having problems fully accessing JK's site.  I can 
get in, and look in rumours and news, but if I click on a 'tinkling' 
link (you know, blue stars and a tinkle) I get the progress bar, but 
then nothing appears and I'm left with the darkened desk top and 
nothing to click.  And what you're describing isn't mentioned on the 
text only site.

Sarah xx (who hates missing out on anything!)





From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sun Jul 31 18:16:38 2005
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Brenda)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:16:38 -0000
Subject: Book 6 survey clarification: spoiler
Message-ID: <dcj4i6+ovtv@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon: 

Just wanted to clarify my reasons for 2 of the survey questions I 
posted. Below are 2 recent quotes by Jo which gave me food for 
thought. The question about Lupin & tonks is in regards to the first 
quote. My take is that she used Bill as a red Herring, however it 
could be perceived that the L/T relationship is the red Herring. The 
second quote seemed strange to me regarding Fawkes; notice how Jo 
seems to backtrack as though she let on something important and then 
tries to cover it up. We already knew Fawkes belonged to DD but it 
seemed like there was more to the fact he isn't in DD's memories...

Jo:"that there is no place for romance in a detective story except 
that it can be useful to camouflage other people's motives. That's 
true; it is a very useful trick. I've used that on Percy and I've 
used that to a degree on Tonks in this book, as a red herring"

Peter Humphreys for BBC Newsround. - Who did Fawkes previously 
belong to and will he play a vital role in the next book?

JK Rowling: I am not going to answer about the role in the next 
books, which probably gives you a big clue, and he has never been 
owned by anyone but Dumbledore. You will notice that when Harry goes 
back in the Pensieve in this book, Fawkes is never there, and ?? no, I 
am sorry, not in this book, I take that back. When Harry has 
previously seen the study with a different headmaster he saw it with 
Dippet and Fawkes was not there then. Fawkes is Dumbledore's 
possession, not a Hogwarts possession.

 







From karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jul 31 19:48:56 2005
From: karenabarker at yahoo.co.uk (Karen Barker)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:48:56 -0000
Subject: Webpage updates
In-Reply-To: <dcj4f0+4j9p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <dcj9v8+98h4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah" <plungy116 at a...> wrote:
> What's there?  I'm having problems fully accessing JK's site.  I can 
> get in, and look in rumours and news, but if I click on a 'tinkling' 
> link (you know, blue stars and a tinkle) I get the progress bar, but 
> then nothing appears and I'm left with the darkened desk top and 
> nothing to click.  And what you're describing isn't mentioned on the 
> text only site.
> 
> Sarah xx (who hates missing out on anything!)

Don't worry it's not too much.  Instead of the usual mug there's a 
glass of champagne and when you click on it to go to 'extra stuff' 
there's just a 40th birthday card pinned onto the noticeboard.  I 
can't see anything else.

Karen





From kathrin.p at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 19:56:21 2005
From: kathrin.p at gmail.com (Kathrin P)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:56:21 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Webpage updates
In-Reply-To: <dcj4f0+4j9p@eGroups.com>
References: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPAEKKCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
	 <dcj4f0+4j9p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4e2ac80050731125676ef0447@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/31/05, Sarah <plungy116 at aol.com> wrote:
 
> What's there? I'm having problems fully accessing JK's site. I can 
> get in, and look in rumours and news, but if I click on a 'tinkling' 
> link (you know, blue stars and a tinkle) I get the progress bar, but 
> then nothing appears and I'm left with the darkened desk top and 
> nothing to click. And what you're describing isn't mentioned on the 
> text only site.
> 
> Sarah xx (who hates missing out on anything!)

 Sarah, I have no clue what it looked like before updates (I'm everything 
but a regular at JKRs page, sorry!), but she has some additional info on the 
opening chapters of PS and HBP in the Edits section... Well, there might be 
even more new info, but I can't tell for sure, sorry!
 -- 
Kathrin
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From cdayr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 21:01:55 2005
From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:01:55 -0000
Subject: HP saves the day!
Message-ID: <dcje83+imh7@eGroups.com>

Hi all!

I thought I'd share this funny incident that happened to me and 
my sparkling new copy of HBP. It literally saved me. No kidding.

I was driving with my husband down to California from Seattle, 
and we were in the no-man's land of rolling hills in central 
Oregon. We were in our on-it's-last-legs ancient minivan, and 
heading down a hill we felt the unmistakable feel of something 
going wrong in the car. We pulled to the side of the interstate, 
and one of our tires had completely distorted and separated on 
the inside. 

Well, we hauled out the jack and the spare tire and started 
jacking up the car. Well, turns out we had grabbed the wrong 
jack- this one was smaller and meant for our little car, and it 
could not get high enough to lift the big minivan. 

Well, the only thing in our car that was sturdy and thick enough to 
raise the jack off the pavement the extra inches we needed was- 
you got it- my copy of HBP, sparkling clean, twice-read, bought at 
12:04 am on the 16th...it was a wrench handing it over to my 
hubby let me tell you, but we were stuck. I had to watch it get 
smashed between the jack and the asphalt of the interstate, and 
support the entire weight of the car. The agony!

But, with the awesome power of Harry Potter, it worked. It raised 
the jack just enough to get the tire off, we got safely back on the 
road, and my now rather battered copy of the HBP has several 
hard-earned battle scars, including many gouges and dirty finger 
prints. 

I'm so proud of it. What a book!  Is there anything it can't do?? 
Hee hee. ;P

-CDR









From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 21:40:51 2005
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:40:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Happy Birthday x 3!
Message-ID: <20050731214051.9140.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com>

*tidies up the room from last night's party and blows
up more balloons*

We all know that Harry and JKR celebrate birthdays
today, but did you know we had a list member
celebrating as well? 

Today's lucky birthday honouree, sharing with Harry
and JKR, is Melody. Birthday owls can be sent care of
this list or directly to Melody at:
mu_nu_mu at hotmail.com

I hope your day is magical and filled with fun and
joy.

Happy Birthday, Melody!

And of course, 

Happy Birthday, Harry and JKR!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 31 23:01:08 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:01:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Birthday x 3!
In-Reply-To: <20050731214051.9140.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0IKI00FDLL9WO7IE@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I have some chocolate mousse cake here and am going to have a piece in honor
of all the Birthdays...especially Harry's! :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 31 23:06:45 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:06:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP saves the day!
In-Reply-To: <dcje83+imh7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0IKI005X7LJ91C6S@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

That is just priceless!!!  Now, does this mean we all must keep a copy of
HBP in our tool boxes? :-) :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 31 23:38:42 2005
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:38:42 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] flint? - vanishing cabinet - I don't think so
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEKDCNAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <0IKI00FWPN0IO7JE@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

[Storm wrote]:
| Hi all
| 
| The questions about vanishing cabinet could be explained in this way:
| 
| Peeves broke a vanishing cabinet. This vanishing cabinet was 
| put in the room
| of requirement.
| 
| vanishing cabinets come in pairs (or more, that is particular 
| vanishing
| cabinets are linked to each other)
| 
| there is another vanishing cabinet in Hogwarts. This is the 
| pair of the
| broken one and the one the twins used.

[Lee]:
I don't think so.  References:
>From HBP:
1. He turned right past an enormous stuffed troll, ran on a short way, took
a left at the broken Vanishing Cabinet
in which Montague had got lost the previous year, finally pausing
beside a large cupboard that seemed to have had acid thrown
at its blistered surface.

2. (Malfoy): ""I had to mend that broken Vanishing Cabinet that
no one's used for years. The one Montague got lost in last year."

"Aaaah." Dumbledore's sigh was half a groan. He closed his eyes for a
moment. "That was clever. ... There is a pair, I take it?"

"In Borgin and Burkes," said Malfoy, "and they make a kind of passage
between them. Montague told me that when he was stuck in the Hogwarts one,
he was trapped in limbo but sometimes he could hear what was going on at
school, and sometimes what was going on in the shop, as if the cabinet was
traveling between them, but he couldn't make anyone hear him. ..."

So, yes, there is a pair...one at Hogwarts, one at B&B's.

[Storm]:
| As the 'pair' was broken the twins' victim could not get out 
| but was stuck
| in vanishing cabinet purgatory (for want of a better word). 
| Think of it like
| the floo network, only instead of being able to get off at 
| any fireplace
| only certain stops are permitted.
| 
| Vanishing cabinet purgatory is not 'in' hogwarts so the 
| character could
| appareate out of it.

[Lee]:
But I still hold to the fact that noe one can apparate either into or out of
Hogwarts, so how could he have apparated from cabinet to Toilet?  Yes, he
could have apparated into B&B's shop, but not into, through, or out of
Hogwarts.  Assuming Vanishing Cabinet Limbo lis outside Hogwarts, then he
coulda/shoulda been able to apparate to the shop, but not to a Hogwarts
toilet.

[Storm]:
| 
| storm, very tired and concrete, hoping the OOP reference 
| doesn't refer to
| the broken vanishing cabinet because the theory will then 
| fall to pieces.

[Lee]:
See my above refs and tell us what you think.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.