Juli: > By the way, for how long is the list going to close after July 16th? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/132099 You should have received that as a Special Notice e-mail - if you didn't get it, I suggest you contact the list-elves: HPforGrownups-owner @ yahoogroups.com (remove the blanks when pasting into your email program) David