From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  1 03:20:50 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 03:20:50 -0000
Subject: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <44A47A0A.3080709@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e84pmi+mo3f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > I have a couple of cages of Parakeets/Budgies...cage one: Simpsons 
> > (Moe, Marge, Barney.
> 
> Barney is the purple one, right? ;)
> 
> Wolfie!
>
Dodde here:

NOPE barney is in the SIMPSONS' cage....he's named after the belching 
drunk on the simpsons...because he was "rescued" after flying into a 
window and knocking himself out and after he was revived he flew into 
my daughters backpack at school....

I won't even get into what  happened after my daughter opened her 
backpack in the car on the way home..(after watching batman begins a 
few days before LOL)

Nope he's definitely a simpsons Barney...not the singing purple lizard 
LOL

Doddie
(who read this post a few times before realizing what you meant 
by "purple bird". LOL)







From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul  1 21:03:08 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:03:08 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <e84pmi+mo3f@eGroups.com>
References: <e84pmi+mo3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44A6E30C.1090902@internode.on.net>


> Nope he's definitely a simpsons Barney...not the singing purple lizard 
> LOL
> 
> Doddie
> (who read this post a few times before realizing what you meant 
> by "purple bird". LOL)

It never clicked about Barney the drunk, I'm not a simpsons fan but
I do know the characters well enough :)

But talking about colour, I saw a photo online somewhere, where someone
had dyed their pidgeons all different colours.

Now it might have been done with photoshop, which would have been 
easier. but then again, someone may have used food dye on their feathers.

The result was beautiful... green, yellow, blue, purple, orange, red.

I have also seen another image where someone painted... and they did
actually do this... their white horse. presumably in colours which
won't harm the animal.

I have heard the story of the horse of many colours in the Wizard of Oz
was coloured with jelly crystals [what you call Jello in the states].

and while mentioning animal safe products, I get a bit worried about
the flea stuff which goes behind a dog/cats neck.

If you read the pack, it says not to get it on your skin because it 
might cause a reaction, so it advises the use of gloves...
and yet it's supposed to go onto the dogs skin.

This has never sat right with me, but then sometimes when you have
a dog who can barely sleep because he's full of fleas then there's
not much choice.

I have tried herbal preparations, but you know... they just don't work.

Wolfie!




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  1 05:20:11 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 05:20:11 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e850mb+n2jv@eGroups.com>

Dina wrote:
> Even though I personally wouldn't use a Dell PC nowadays nor am I fan
> of their means at achieving lower costs, if you want to define the
> choice as 'lazy', it's that but I don't think Carol's first thought
> was 'will this help the US economy'. ;-)  I think the "little guys"
> are good for consumers who want more guidance and options**, but
from my impression, Carol wanted something she could 'use and forget
> about'.  Dell will probably be around long enough to support
longterm warranty since I don't know how much 'use and abuse' Carol
puts her computers through for her to bring up warranty issues and it
sounded like she didn't need a specialized computer. <snip>

Carol responds:
Dina, you read my needs perfectly. I forgot to mention that I have DSL
and am online eight hours or more a day whether I'm working (editing a
manuscript using Word 2000--can't abide the newer versions)--or
playing (mostly HPfGU and browsing the Internet but also Jumbles and
that sort of thing). But the computer has to be good for video games
of the Age of Mythology/Zoo Tycoon variety (and Microsoft Flight
Simulator) for a certain twelve-year-old who spends a lot of time with
me. I'll need a CD-RW and DVD-ROM drive. Nothing fancy. I don't do
screen captures or anything like that.

There's a new Dell outlet store just down the street from me (haven't
been there yet), but I don't know if they'll set up the computer and
transfer data from the old one (all the stuff in My Documents needs to
be transferred) and I doubt that they'll honor the online specials.

Is that my best bet, do you think? thanks for your help!

Carol






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  1 05:30:45 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 05:30:45 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <44A07944.8050700@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e851a5+n623@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> bumbledor wrote:
> > Carol, for what its worth, what ever you do, know this: Norton
anti-virus is 
> > a RESOURCE HOG.
> > Ive been an avid norton user since the days of the old 8 bit XT
systems.. 
> > Last week I removed Norton.
> > My computer runs faster and better since I switched to AVG.
> > as for a computer.. Get what ever you want.. Then get a computer
geek to 
> > help you remove all the spam crap that comes with it.. that way
you don't 
> > erase something the thing needs..
> > Then set it up the way you want it.
> > have fun computing after that.
> 
> Oh Yes.
> 
> I have had nortons programs destroy my computer, various things.
> they're horrid.
> 
> Use AVG free, lovely program, updates itself, does the job
> and largely minds it's own business.
> 
> www.grisoft.com I believe.
> 
> Wolfie!
>

Thanks, both of you. My Norton subscription just expired and I'm
getting daily reminders to renew it. And I can't even run the program
other than to leave it on all the time to protect my e-mail. It won't
do a scan for some reason. But since I'm planning to get a new
computer anyway, I haven't bothered to remove it.

Carol






From bumbledor at comcast.net  Sat Jul  1 07:11:50 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 03:11:50 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
References: <e851a5+n623@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00b801c69cdd$9f8a8a40$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:30 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>>
>> bumbledor wrote:
>> > Carol, for what its worth, what ever you do, know this: Norton
> anti-virus is
>> > a RESOURCE HOG.
>> > Ive been an avid norton user since the days of the old 8 bit XT
> systems..
>> > Last week I removed Norton.
>> > My computer runs faster and better since I switched to AVG.
>> > as for a computer.. Get what ever you want.. Then get a computer
> geek to
>> > help you remove all the spam crap that comes with it.. that way
> you don't
>> > erase something the thing needs..
>> > Then set it up the way you want it.
>> > have fun computing after that.
>>
>> Oh Yes.
>>
>> I have had nortons programs destroy my computer, various things.
>> they're horrid.
>>
>> Use AVG free, lovely program, updates itself, does the job
>> and largely minds it's own business.
>>
>> www.grisoft.com I believe.
>>
>> Wolfie!
>>
>
> Thanks, both of you. My Norton subscription just expired and I'm
> getting daily reminders to renew it. And I can't even run the program
> other than to leave it on all the time to protect my e-mail. It won't
> do a scan for some reason. But since I'm planning to get a new
> computer anyway, I haven't bothered to remove it.
>
> Carol
>
If you want to remove norton, just go to their website and get the removal 
tool.
THEN, go to Start menu, settings, ad/remove programs and remove both Norton 
and norton automatic updates. WHEN finished with that, run the norton 
removal tool, to clean out the rest of the junk it left in your computers 
registery..

OH, and get the AVG.. for free, its a good system, and it works great. even 
if its for a few days.. At least that way you have virus protection for your 
email.






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul  1 12:46:44 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:46:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e850mb+n2jv@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
	 <e850mb+n2jv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607010546y547ace17q1aa4134848cfff92@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/1/06, justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> and am online eight hours or more a day whether I'm working (editing a
> manuscript using Word 2000--can't abide the newer versions)--or

Understandable.  I've found some software where I like the older
versions more than the 'new and improved'.  I've got MS Office 2000
installed on one computer and Office 2003 Pro on another... and yep, I
know there's more to life than Micro$oft products. ;-)


> playing (mostly HPfGU and browsing the Internet but also Jumbles and
> that sort of thing). But the computer has to be good for video games
> of the Age of Mythology/Zoo Tycoon variety (and Microsoft Flight
> Simulator) for a certain twelve-year-old who spends a lot of time with
> me. I'll need a CD-RW and DVD-ROM drive. Nothing fancy. I don't do
> screen captures or anything like that.

I'd recommend a computer with CD *and* DVD burning capabilities but
you can always upgrade later.


> There's a new Dell outlet store just down the street from me (haven't
> been there yet), but I don't know if they'll set up the computer and
> transfer data from the old one (all the stuff in My Documents needs to
> be transferred) and I doubt that they'll honor the online specials.

Dunno about the data transfer service.  Possibly, but if it is
offered, it'd probably be overpriced.

If you don't have a LAN already, I'd recommend investing in an
inexpensive router--wired ones are cheaper and offer secure data
transmission versus wireless but they're obviously less mobile.  I
bought a wired Belkin router off of eBay for less than $10 and I don't
pay extra internet charges for all computers to share the network--of
course, don't tell the internet company this--and it allows me to
shuffle gigs of data between computers.  Since you mentioned DSL, it's
very likely you're connecting via an ethernet (or USB?), so you're
set-up for networking between computers.  However, for your basic file
transporting needs between two computers, one of those USB to USB
puppies... like http://www.homenethelp.com/web/review/pc-linq.asp as
an example.


> Is that my best bet, do you think? thanks for your help!

Check out the Dell outlet store and ask them questions about concerns
you'd like clarified. :-)  Then compare to the Dell website and look
at websites like dealnews.com. slickdeals.net and fatwallet.com
(utilize search features on the forum websites) for Dell website
coupons as a comparison basis to what the outlet store could provide.
If you have Costco membership, I've heard rumors of the YMMV kind
where folks have said some Dells were being discounted $500.  Use the
fact July 4th is coming up--I'm presuming you're in the US now--and
"deals" pop up around holidays.

Dina



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul  1 13:01:38 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:01:38 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <00b801c69cdd$9f8a8a40$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
References: <e851a5+n623@eGroups.com>
	 <00b801c69cdd$9f8a8a40$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607010601t4e34b16bkf82fd5ff1944707d@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/1/06, bumbledor <bumbledor at comcast.net> wrote:

> OH, and get the AVG.. for free, its a good system, and it works great. even
> if its for a few days.. At least that way you have virus protection for your
> email.

I'd also recommend AVG but I also have Norton, installed alongside
AVG, on one computer.  However, I have a subscription hack (one data
file replaces a valid install) that gave Norton an updates
expiration... gah, I forgot how long but it was *at least* twenty
years for my old Norton 2001--actually bought the OEM CD.  Kinda in a
situation where, if I had to pay, I wouldn't choose Norton again, but
'hey, "free" updates for now, so {shrugs} whatever'.

Dina



From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sun Jul  2 00:58:24 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:58:24 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Neville nicknames
Message-ID: <55b.1237bc7.31d87430@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/28/06 6:59:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
drcarole71 at yahoo.com writes:


> 
> I named my dogs Molly and Neville. 
> I usually call Neville "Nev" or "Nevvie". Are there commonly used 
> nicknames for the name Neville?
> Thanks
> Carole
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Sandy:

I have three kittens who are 4 months old today. Their names are Ginny, Lily 
and Tonks.

Sandy


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From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  2 05:43:46 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 05:43:46 -0000
Subject: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <44A6E30C.1090902@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e87mei+kpud@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > Nope he's definitely a simpsons Barney...not the singing purple 
lizard 
> > LOL
> > 
> > Doddie
snipity snip
 
Doddie again...

I name my birds on characteristics..not colors...they're 
parakeets/budgies....

Doddie,
(who snickers to think what this post may have turned out if she had 
named her birds after the characters of Alex Haley's "Roots".. LOL)







From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jul  3 09:37:55 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:37:55 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <e87mei+kpud@eGroups.com>
References: <e87mei+kpud@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44A8E573.3020406@internode.on.net>


> Doddie,
> (who snickers to think what this post may have turned out if she had 
> named her birds after the characters of Alex Haley's "Roots".. LOL)

Bah, go with something fun like Rocky Horror. :)

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jul  3 15:36:54 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:36:54 -0400
Subject: Phone calls you shouldn't miss RE: building catching on fire
Message-ID: <1a2738400607030836qefade29nd5256c01d0ab550e@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not 'hooked' to my cell phone and only a few folk have the number,
so I sometimes have let the battery die or not check missed calls.

Err... My boss is in Greece until the end of July and one of the
shopping centers he manages, along with a business partner, caught
fire Sunday morning, a major fire that affected at least 5-7 stores
with smoke damage to the rest.  The partner called my cell Sunday
morning and I missed the calls (dead cell), but I also heard it was in
the newspaper.  I also have a call from the sheriff around 5:30a
Sunday on the office's voicemail about the fire.  One business is the
centerpoint and we're making sure their liability insurance covers the
center's damage.

Um, whoops, on missing the call?  Though, I'm not sure what assistance
I could've provided on a Sunday morning, especially when the center
was at least a twenty minute drive away.

That shopping center was the 'lowest on the totem pole' out of my
boss's portfolio and they were going to invest about half a million in
renovations.  Wouldn't surprise me if a tenant may have 'encouraged'
the fire because they'd like to collect on insurance (i.e. cheap
tenants for an aging center).

Dina



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jul  3 22:01:23 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 18:01:23 -0400
Subject: Jibber about switching ISPs and trying to cancel AOL
Message-ID: <1a2738400607031501w76f54779j94e85d8dc1ff3351@mail.gmail.com>

I got my first computer back in December 1995 and I paid $2,500 out of
my own money (savings) and in one payment--no parent of mine would
ever fork over money for me to have a computer.  It came installed
with AOL 3.0, so my first exposure to the internet was AOL and they
*milked* me for $100+ in fees per month for a short period--again, I
was paying for the internet out of my wages from an after high school
hours job.  I had cancelled AOL in mid-1996 but signed back up in the
same year.  As Wiki documented, during the 1990s, AOL was the
"internet" for many newbies, especially considering how many computers
came with the AOL software pre-installed and the 'infamous'
mass-marketed AOL CDs.

Between 1995 and now, I've gone through The OnRamp, Netcom, Sprint
'Passport', and I'm still with Mindspring, which is now Earthlink.  I
liked Mindspring [before they were Earthlink] because they had
customer service folk interacting with users on usenet groups
(Mindspring had specialty usenet groups) but they were a bit more
pricey than others at the time.  Through those ISP changes, I had kept
AOL as a BYOA ("Bring Your Own Access") or light usage--basically,
plans less than $5-10.  Up until March 2006, I was paying $4.95/month
for light usage but they increased the price to $6.95.

I called last week to cancel since I wasn't using AOL much, except to
keep a webpage as a forwarding point, one email account, and possibly
my old AIM screen name.  I did want to keep that forwarding page but
five years of paying for it and the price increase was the final push
to cancel.  I've heard and seen the 'horror stories' in trying to
cancel AOL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_Online

Thankfully, I wasn't 100% deadset on cancelling to test how difficult
it truly was and I did get a semi-okay "retention" deal because I was
with AOL since December 1996.  It's interesting to know some ISPs have
'unlisted' plans.  For example, Earthlink had a ~$9.95/month plan for
light usage.  Anyway, the AOL rep offered me $4.95/month for
'unlimited AOL' (oxymoron) via BYOA with no included dial-up... I
hadn't used AOL dial-up in years and Earthlink comes with dial-up,
which can be handy for 'emergencies'.

I've gotten extra cell phone perks via Sprint's retention codes but
hadn't tried getting a discount on an internet content provider via
cancelling... until now.

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul  4 09:08:28 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 02:08:28 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <s483e8a2.084@gwia.resbank.co.za>
References: <s483e8a2.084@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <44AA300C.2060705@internode.on.net>

Cairie Witter wrote:
> Hey talking about lights, sometimes we forget that the lights are on and we could have them on for weeks till someone gets the courage to tell you that your lights have been on for weeks! [huge grin]  That happens to me quite a lot.  Sometimes living in a sighted world can be fun.  Just think about the different reactions you get.  Here in South Africa, most people don't know what to do when they meet someone with a disability. 

Yeah it's stupid but sometimes sighted people forget lights too.

I trained to be a radio announcer, and was for three years at a 
community station, I aimed for more but there were health problems.

Anyway I was in radio classes before this, and we'd be sitting there
in the evening as the sun was setting [evening classes].

and we'd be reading out papers and squinting away, pulling them closer
to our faces, when suddenly one would say "Oh, The lights!" and someone
would put the lights on and we'd all laugh because nobody thought about
it sooner.

Then again we all wanted to be in radio, so we were nuts to begin with. :)

Wolfie!



From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  4 15:17:22 2006
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:17:22 -0700
Subject: a new  HP web site
Message-ID: <E1FxmeX-0002mO-KD@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello all,

I received this message this morning, about a new web site created by two
fan fic authors who are dedicated to the hope that Harry will survive the
seventh book.  They gave me permission to forward this information.

Sherry
 

Hello everyone

My friend MuggleMomma and I were having a late night IM conversation after
JKRs recent comments. We started giggling and laughing and what do you know?
A new website was born, lol.

Neither of us can bear the thought of losing Harry...Therefore, welcome to
the new site:

http://www.letharrylive.com/

Keep in mind, it's still a work in progress and open to suggestions.  
Please go take a look and give us some feedback. We're looking to start some
forums for conversation and essays on why we want our hero to survive past
book 7. (We do know it will make no difference in the end - but it makes us
feel better that we're doing something) ;)

Take a look and I'd love some feedback!  Thanks.





From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  4 18:55:32 2006
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:55:32 -0000
Subject: Happy Fourth of July :)
Message-ID: <e8edj4+dlis@eGroups.com>

To all american members of the list. I am not going to start singing 
long difirambs. I am perfectly aware that we have lots of problems, 
etc.

But I came to this country eight years ago and I am not exaggerating 
when I am saying that this country gave me SO much  that I could never 
dream of back home. Honestly.

Happy birthday, guys!

Alla






From annemflynn at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  4 19:32:55 2006
From: annemflynn at yahoo.com (annemflynn)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:32:55 -0000
Subject: Happy Fourth of July :)
In-Reply-To: <e8edj4+dlis@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8efp7+bjbs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

"To all american members of the list. I am not going to start singing 
long difirambs. I am perfectly aware that we have lots of problems, 
etc.But I came to this country eight years ago and I am not 
exaggerating when I am saying that this country gave me SO much  that I 
could never dream of back home. Honestly. Happy birthday, guys! Alla"

And to you! Patriotism should always be alive, despite our political 
opinions. It's a day to celebrate our accomplishments as a country and 
our dreams for the future, and to remember all those that fought for 
us.  We'll get back to the problems tomorrow, but for just one day, we 
get to celebrate. Congratulations on your successes here Alla!







From coverton at netscape.com  Tue Jul  4 19:22:57 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:22:57 -0500
Subject: a new  HP web site
In-Reply-To: <E1FxmeX-0002mO-KD@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001101c69f9f$47ae9cc0$36ae82ac@Overton>

Thanks for that Sherry, your fellow member, Corey
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:17 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] a new HP web site



Hello all,

I received this message this morning, about a new web site created by
two
fan fic authors who are dedicated to the hope that Harry will survive
the
seventh book. They gave me permission to forward this information.

Sherry


Hello everyone

My friend MuggleMomma and I were having a late night IM conversation
after
JKRs recent comments. We started giggling and laughing and what do you
know?
A new website was born, lol.

Neither of us can bear the thought of losing Harry...Therefore, welcome
to
the new site:

http://www.letharry <http://www.letharrylive.com/> live.com/

Keep in mind, it's still a work in progress and open to suggestions. 
Please go take a look and give us some feedback. We're looking to start
some
forums for conversation and essays on why we want our hero to survive
past
book 7. (We do know it will make no difference in the end - but it makes
us
feel better that we're doing something) ;)

Take a look and I'd love some feedback! Thanks.



 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






From bigglassofoj at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  4 20:36:25 2006
From: bigglassofoj at yahoo.com (shiny nickle)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 13:36:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Happy Fourth of July :)
In-Reply-To: <e8efp7+bjbs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060704203626.32603.qmail@web37011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

=)

annemflynn <annemflynn at yahoo.com> wrote:          --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

"To all american members of the list. I am not going to start singing 
long difirambs. I am perfectly aware that we have lots of problems, 
etc.But I came to this country eight years ago and I am not 
exaggerating when I am saying that this country gave me SO much that I 
could never dream of back home. Honestly. Happy birthday, guys! Alla"

And to you! Patriotism should always be alive, despite our political 
opinions. It's a day to celebrate our accomplishments as a country and 
our dreams for the future, and to remember all those that fought for 
us. We'll get back to the problems tomorrow, but for just one day, we 
get to celebrate. Congratulations on your successes here Alla!



         

 		
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From jheiler at sympatico.ca  Wed Jul  5 17:11:04 2006
From: jheiler at sympatico.ca (jeanico2000)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:11:04 -0000
Subject: Just wondering...
Message-ID: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>

Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply troubled if 
JK kills Harry off in book 7? I keep reading these recent news items 
about family groups and religious groups claiming that Harry's death 
would be a good thing... that Harry must die, must sacrifice himself. 
Apparently, even some child psychologists are saying this would be a 
good learning tool for kids. I even read a comment in a 
newspaper/magazine stating that Harry has to die while he is 'young 
and vibrant' because no one wants to imagine an aging Harry Potter. 
Any thoughts here? I know that Harry's only fiction, but I'm starting 
to get anxious! LOL! 






From heidi8 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  5 17:20:25 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:20:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>
References: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5913e6f80607051020u1e3650b2xbfd10bc34bee4ae8@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/5/06, jeanico2000 <jheiler at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply troubled if
> JK kills Harry off in book 7?

My mom called me last week, very upset about the idea of Harry dying.
She said that JKR would be the meanest person in the world if she did
that.

On one level I think it would be horrible to do, but on another level,
I am still upset that she sent Sirius through the veil, so for her to
kill off Harry too wouldn't really devestate me personally - but I'd
be upset for the others - for the kids - who'd feel the impact.

Heidi

http://www.fictionalley.org
CREATIVITY IS MAGIC!



From annemflynn at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  5 18:20:35 2006
From: annemflynn at yahoo.com (annemflynn)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:20:35 -0000
Subject: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8gvtj+84gg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jeanico2000" <jheiler at ...> 
wrote:
>
"Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply troubled if 
JK kills Harry off in book 7?"

Coming out of lurkerdom to post here. I would be troubled if Harry 
didn't make it. I think it might teach young fans the wrong lesson that 
why bother fighting evil, if you're just going to die anyway. I know 
the other lesson is there's no price to big for the greater good, but I 
don't think it'll got that way. I think Harry will make it through the 
end of book 7. I don't think Hermione will though. I have no basis for 
that other than my gut feeling.









From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul  5 22:53:12 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:53:12 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c6a085$cb5249a0$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Maybe I might sound hard-hearted, but whatever happens makes no real dif to
me.  Sure, if Harry lives, we can imagine him becoming Minister of Magic or
Head Auror or whatever we want, having kids with Gini who grow up to become
Hogwarts teachers or aurors, etc.

If he dies, it makes for a tragic ending, but an ending nonetheless.  Jo
will have told his story and it will be a fiction classic for years to come.

Main characters die...even Bilbo and Frodo die, even if we don't actually
see it happen, but we know they do.  Death is a part of life.

Sure, I'd probably cry and grit my teeth if Harry dies, but then, I can go
back to the beginning of the series and read through the whole thing, or
move to a different series.

Like I say, I may sound harsh, but fiction is fiction and as much of a fan
of HP as I may be, I can accept whatever plan for the main character Jo has
in mind.

Peace,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From coverton at netscape.com  Wed Jul  5 23:24:27 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 18:24:27 -0500
Subject: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8gvtj+84gg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c6a08a$314e8bc0$4c3484ac@Overton>

jeanico2000 <jheiler at ...> wrote:
> "Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply 
> troubled if JK kills Harry off in book 7?"

Anne:
> <snip> I think Harry will make it through the end of book 7. I 
> don't think Hermione will though. I have no basis for that other
> than my gut feeling.


Corey:
 I disagree; Hermione is one of the trio after all, and I think all 
the members of the trio will live.  But I'm sick of waiting, I'm a 
very impatient human, let's get on with book seven already!









From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Thu Jul  6 03:26:36 2006
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 23:26:36 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8gvtj+84gg@eGroups.com>
References: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com> <e8gvtj+84gg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0607052026s776e24d0t1383026dd199f5ce@mail.gmail.com>

> I think Harry will make it through the
> end of book 7. I don't think Hermione will though. I have no basis for
> that other than my gut feeling.

Interesting.  That may be one of the very few times I've heard someone
predicting Hermione's death without connecting it to something.
Hm...not Ron? :)

Anyway, I'm not that invested in Harry's death/ending, only in Book 7
being a good book.  If JKR writes it well enough, I'll accept any
ending she chooses; death can be an incredibly powerful, yet not
necessarily tragic, ending.  Unfortunately, I don't really foresee
Book 7 being great, especially if HBP or her recent oblique comment
about character deaths were indicators, so I'm generally hoping for a
happy ending - I can take a trite happy ending while trite sad endings
just make me think the author is pathetic.

Moreover, speaking as a writer, I think that, when you're as invested
in a creation like JKR is in Harry, it would be terribly difficult to
kill him off without incredible reasons.  I have yet seen any truly
solid arguments for killing Harry.  (Personally, the argument of
killing Harry off to prevent fans whining for another book holds no
merit for me.  That kind of reasoning denotes someone who is not a
true writer, and I would personally donate my HP books to the nearest
Salvation Army if JKR follows that line of reasoning to write a sad
ending, and really, killing Harry doesn't mean fans won't ask for
another book.  So far, I haven't encountered that many people
interested in an 8th HP book; when dealing with that world, they all
seem to want books on other characters or something like History Of
Hogwarts.)

Those are my two cents, in any case.  Back to laundry and lurkdom with me!

~Ali






From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jul  6 07:53:53 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:53:53 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6a08a$314e8bc0$4c3484ac@Overton>
References: <000a01c6a08a$314e8bc0$4c3484ac@Overton>
Message-ID: <44ACC191.80305@internode.on.net>

I think it will be Snape who dies and possible another
small player such as Filch.

I don't think Snape is evil, I think he's part of a
secret plot, perhaps a double agent of some sort.

There's an old star trek joke that the guys wearing red
tend to get killed off, and Filch, being a small fish,
will probably get killed off... but while doing something
important.

Another consideration is Harrys Aunt and Uncle, who are
in peril from Voldemort, but who we tend to forget about
once the story moves to Hogwarts.

And I feel Nevs parents will come out of their coma
and contribute somehow.

I don't think any of the friends will die at all.

Wolfie!




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Fri Jul  7 00:03:05 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:03:05 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Just wondering...
Message-ID: <548.2323598.31defeb9@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/5/06 11:36:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
coverton at netscape.com writes:


> Corey:
> I disagree; Hermione is one of the trio after all, and I think all 
> the members of the trio will live. But I'm sick of waiting, I'm a 
> very impatient human, let's get on with book seven already!
> 

Sandy:
Amen! You said it brother (or sister). Instead of running her mouth she needs 
to be running her pen.


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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Fri Jul  7 00:30:12 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:30:12 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Just wondering...
Message-ID: <504.2784e58.31df0514@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/6/06 1:01:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
alexisnguyen at gmail.com writes:


> Unfortunately, I don't really foresee
> Book 7 being great, especially if HBP or her recent oblique comment
> about character deaths were indicators

Sandy:
I agree 100%, as well as with most of the rest of your post that I snipped.


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From drcarole71 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 00:59:28 2006
From: drcarole71 at yahoo.com (drcarole71)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:59:28 -0000
Subject: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <504.2784e58.31df0514@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e8kblg+3t33@eGroups.com>


I don't like the over emphasis on realism in fiction.  It's nice to 
have a story be somewhat true to life, but when the main goal is 
realism you end up with non-fiction, not entertaining stories. I think 
you can write a good book without killing off characters just for the 
sake of "realism". Survival can be realistic, too. 
I read fiction for entertainment.  If I want realism I'll open my 
bills :)
Not to be too political, but I also don't like the idea of healthy 
young people "dying for a cause".  We have enough martyrs in the world 
right now; hopefully JKR won't make one of the trio a martyr as well.  

Carole






From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jul  7 02:18:15 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:18:15 +1000
Subject: Last photos for a while - very special for me
In-Reply-To: <e8kblg+3t33@eGroups.com>
References: <504.2784e58.31df0514@aol.com>
Message-ID: <44AE5107.28841.51EFD68@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

These will be the last photos I post about for a while as I start my 'Ready to Teach' rounds 
next week, and should be very busy.

But these are photos of a very special place for me, indeed.

I'm going to paste in the commentary here - not the photos obviously.

They can be seen at:

http://drednort.livejournal.com/59231.html

My photographic odyssey continues. Yesterday I went for a walk from my university to my 
most significant school - the one that has had the biggest impact on my life. Xavier College, 
Kew.

Xavier is one of Australia's best known schools - especially one of it's best know Catholic 
Schools. It's been a member of the Associated Public School of Victoria for over 100 years 
(Public School in this sense, being used in the British tradition) which marks it as one of the 
most elite schools in the state. It was a founding school of the Headmasters Conference of 
Australia, and is one of what are sometimes referred to as the Six Great Schools of Victoria. 
It's generally regarded as the best Catholic school in the state, and along with its brother 
school, Riverview in Sydney, one of the two best in the country. It's a highly traditional, highly 
academic school, and it was what I needed when I went there aged 14 in 1989. So these 
photos are special for my memories.

I spent 1988, when I was at 13, at Koskta Hall. This is one of Xavier's two preparatory 
schools and is a part of the school in general. Kostka was the happiest year and happiest 
place of my childhood. The senior school wasn't almost as good, but not quite. I liked it a lot.

I should say, first of all, something about the location of Xavier. It's a suburb of Melbourne 
called Kew, and when I was at Xavier, we were told that Kew has the highest concentration of 
educational institutions in the western world. I don't know if that is actually true or not, but it 
certainly does have an awful lot of schools - and a lot of them are elite independent schools. 
It's not a big suburb - three or four square miles, and in that area, there are apparently thirty 
four separate educational institutions. And it does effect the area in a lot of ways - every 
morning and afternoon, the place is flooded with private school kids, and they interact - it's 
odd to be honest, and hard to describe, but it means you're not just at your school, you are 
part of a big community.

Why are there so many schools there? The first two photos I took may help to illustrate this.

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This is part of Studley Park, and really very near central Melbourne. How near?

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That gives you some idea - as the crow flies, I would guess it's about two miles.

Studley Park was originally a squatters run - a farm - established in 1840, five years after the 
then village of Melbourne was established. John Hodgson, the man who started this farm 
became extremely wealthy and built a mansion - Studley House - in the 1850s, and the effect 
of his farm was to mean that this area, east of Melbourne remained quite undeveloped, even 
though it was close to the city - the Yarra River marked a natural boundary which the farm 
reinforced.

In the second half of the 19th Century, Melbourne - Marvellous Melbourne - was an extremely 
rich city - the second richest city, after London, in the entire British Empire. And because it 
was a part of that empire, the wealthy people of Melbourne worked to set up institutions to 
copy those at home in Britain - including copying the 'best' British schools. The area east of 
the Yarra, being reasonably nearby, but undeveloped, associated with wealthy landowners - 
became a perfect place to build these schools, and quite a few settled in this area. Even 
today, while these are fairly crowded, fairly inner city suburbs, there are still significant 
pockets of parkland, and Studley Park is one of these.

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Hodgson's home, Studley House is still on the edges of Studley Park. But today it has a 
different name - Burke Hall. My route took me past Burke Hall - which is Xavier's other junior 
school, it's older prep school, and while I didn't attend it, many of my best friends did and it's 
part of the whole. So for completeness sake, I took some photos of it. It's part of the whole - 
three schools that make up one.

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Most definitely a part of Xavier.

And when I was at the senior school, I did have cause to visit it a few times for various 
reasons.

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I taught junior boys how to debate in this building.

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The Xavier Crest on the wall of Burke Hall - I have a problem not photographing the crest if I 
see it.

>From Burke Hall, I walked to the senior school.

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And I came in via the gates... and this is what I saw. And this is a real memory. This was the 
first view I ever had of Xavier College. At the time, I knew my parents had more or less 
decided I was going to go to Xavier, and I was being brought in for a final interview. I was 
nervous, I'd had a year of hell at the school I was at, and I wondered if this school would be 
different. We came in through the gates and I looked up and I saw this, and knew instantly 
that this was a different type of school. The feeling got even stronger when we stopped, and 
my father was directed to the office by an impeccably dressed, impossibly polite prefect, who 
looked at me and gave me the most sincere smile I had ever seen on the face of another kid.

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The crest again, on the main gates we passed through that day - although I didn't use those 
gates very often while at the school.

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The original Xavier building, the South Wing, which is where we went that day. Administration 
on the ground floor, and the library up above it. Good and bad memories of this building - the 
library was great. Being in the administration area normally meant I was in some sort of 
trouble.

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This balcony, outside the library overlooks the chapel and it use to be one of my favourite 
places to stand and think and relax - my tutor's office was quite nearby and I often needed to 
relax before I went into see him.

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The Chapel itself - to me this building is probably the building I love most in the world for its 
looks. It just seems so... right to me in line and proportion and style.

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The Great Hall - the focal point of the school, used for assemblies, as a main thoroughfare, 
to shelter in on wet days, covered in noticeboards for every club and sporting event. Hanging 
from above, you can see the banners for the school houses.

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That's the banner for my old House - Claver, magenta in colour. Not the best photo in the 
world, but below it you can see the Sportsmasters Office. The only time I ever went in there, I 
was in trouble as well - I wasn't really in trouble as often as these photos indicate - but I was 
innocent on that occasion.

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As you enter the Great Hall from the south, you pass the schools honour boards - honouring 
the Captains of the School, the Dux of the School, Captains of major sporting teams, etc -
and this one. The most sacred.

The Roll of Honour. The list of Xavier boys who given their lives in the defence of their 
country. Sacred, and special.

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Ah, yes - a very special photo.

This is where I became 'The Dreadnought'. This patch of ground is the scene of my one 
great moment of sporting glory, and the source of my nickname.

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I said it was a traditional school - well, this one of the weirder traditions. This hotel - it was the 
California Motor Inn when I was at Xavier is out the south gates of the school. Periodically for 
sports training they uses to make us jog around the school boundaries, and a tradition 
developed because of this building. We had to sing Hotel California as we ran along the 
south boundary, then as we turned up the east side, we began singing House of the Rising 
Sun, and as we came down the north side and through the north gates back into the school, 
we sang the Pub With No Beer. For some reason, this was fun.

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The Rigg Wing (the north and part of the east wing of the school). This was where I had most 
of my classes in Form III and IV, and where I really got my life back on track.

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The gates by which I came into the school most often - not the best view of the school, but 
one I especially wanted a photo of, because it's when I knew I was home, when I came 
through here. The small bridge - just to the left of that were some lockers some people 
locked me into to see if I was claustrophobic. I was, actually.

A teacher came along and had a really hard time getting me out because I was in such a 
panic, I kept kicking the door, she was trying to get open and almost toppling the locker over 
on top of her. When they finally got me out - the guys who'd locked me in there, were as pale 
as ghosts. They'd intended it as a joke - not a good joke, obviously, but it wasn't malicious. 
But they'd been told what would happen to anyone who picked on me, and they were terrified.

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The back door of the infirmary - I used to come in here to pester Matron.

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Side wall and entrance of the Montague Theatre, where I did most of my acting while at the 
school.

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The senior boarding house.

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And across this bridge was the dining hall. I streaked across here naked once - terrifying 
time!

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This was the Doctor's surgery we were taken to if the Matron decided we needed medical 
attention. A choice of the male doctor in his sixties with rough hands and a rough manner, or 
the female doctor in her sixties with absolutely no respect for the modesty of an adolescent 
male.

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Dobsons - the place where you purchases school uniform from. Staffed largely by middle 
aged ladies with, again, no respect for a boys modesty. Being sent down then to buy a shirt 
was fine. Being sent down there to buy shorts or trousers - horrible. I really wonder why we 
just accepted that.

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The door to the classroom where I got into the biggest trouble I was ever in in my life. The 
only time I ever feared expulsion.

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Through this window, was the room we had for our chess club and where a friend and I tried 
to program games on a TRS-80 with 1 KB of memory, or something like that.

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The basement where the prefects had their domain. "How do you confuse a prefect?" "You 
turn on the lights."

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And the boiler room - the room with large high pressure gas pipes running through it - where I 
caught some of my really intelligent friends smoking: "Because nobody would be insane 
enough to smoke in here, so nobody would look."

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Fri Jul  7 03:57:42 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:57:42 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Just wondering...
Message-ID: <52f.2e45dc4.31df35b6@aol.com>



Carole:
> I don't like the over emphasis on realism in fiction. It's nice to 
> have a story be somewhat true to life, but when the main goal is 
> realism you end up with non-fiction, not entertaining stories. I think 
> you can write a good book without killing off characters just for the 
> sake of "realism". Survival can be realistic, too. 
> I read fiction for entertainment. If I want realism I'll open my 
> bills :)

Sandy:
Yeah, especially the utility bill. That one made my heart skip a few beats 
this month :(




Carole:
> Not to be too political, but I also don't like the idea of healthy 
> young people "dying for a cause". We have enough martyrs in the world 
> right now; hopefully JKR won't make one of the trio a martyr as well. 
> 
> Carole
> 
> 

Sandy:
Exactly, thank you very much. Given the theme of the books I can, to a 
certain degree, accept that some of the adults are going to die, but I absolutely 
cannot accept the young people dying. She has already killed a teen ager, which 
I found quite traumatic, but can accept because it makes a point and was not a 
character we got the chance to get too attached to. Killing off any of the 
other young people would be anti-climatic IMO and serve no useful purpose. To 
kill any of the Trio would be unforgivable. I have said that if she kills Harry 
I will never read the books again, and I certainly would not read anything 
else she ever wrote. I now will include Ron and Hermione. What would be the point 
of putting Harry through 16 years of hell only to kill him off in the end? He 
has already lost his parents, Sirius and Dumbledore, but losing Ron and/or 
Hermione would be too unspeakably cruel. If he were to survive and they die he 
would carry that burden of guilt with him for the rest of his life feeling it 
was his fault. Harry has suffered enough.

Sandy


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From bridge13219 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 00:12:29 2006
From: bridge13219 at yahoo.com (bridge13219)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:12:29 -0000
Subject: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <44A6E30C.1090902@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e8k8td+9h0p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
<SNIP> But talking about colour, I saw a photo online somewhere, where 
someone
> had dyed their pidgeons all different colours.
> 
> Now it might have been done with photoshop, which would have been 
> easier. but then again, someone may have used food dye on their  
feathers.
> 
> The result was beautiful... green, yellow, blue, purple, orange, red.
<snip> 

Bridge13219:
You can use sugar-free Kool-Ade too!  I used to do my hair as well as 
the poodle for Halloween.  If you mix a few packets with a little 
water to make a paste it makes a nice strong color.







From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Fri Jul  7 12:02:48 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:02:48 -0000
Subject: 07/07/06
Message-ID: <e8lih8+d5tm@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon:

Could it be 1 year from today we will be devouring our very own copies 
of book 7. Let the countdown begin!






From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jul  7 12:12:12 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:12:12 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] 07/07/06
In-Reply-To: <e8lih8+d5tm@eGroups.com>
References: <e8lih8+d5tm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44AE4F9C.6020005@internode.on.net>

Luckdragon wrote:
> Luckdragon:
> 
> Could it be 1 year from today we will be devouring our very own copies 
> of book 7. Let the countdown begin!

I'd devour anything, even some of you maybe, but not fish.

...I hate fish. :/

Wolfie! [the werewolf]

see my HP fanart at http://www.users.on.net/~wuff/



From olly at olly86.co.uk  Fri Jul  7 13:03:32 2006
From: olly at olly86.co.uk (Olly)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 14:03:32 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] 07/07/06
In-Reply-To: <44AE4F9C.6020005@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <002201c6a1c5$c0207660$967ba8c0@OllyLaptop>

Luckdragon wrote:
Could it be 1 year from today we will be devouring our very own copies of
book 7. Let the countdown begin!

Wolfie wrote:
I'd devour anything, even some of you maybe, but not fish.

...I hate fish. :/

Olly now:
I thought this might have been about the London bombings last year, seeing
as a two minute silence was held across parts of the UK today.

Olly




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 20:45:00 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:45:00 -0000
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
Message-ID: <e8mh4c+tjhr@eGroups.com>

OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
email address? Please?

I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
encoded like most email addresses. I'm not sure if that is 
because Yahoo knows this is me and doesn't see any need to 
hide my email address from me, or if something else has 
gone wrong and now my email address is there for the world 
to see.

One of the reasons Yahoo hides your email address is so that
scanning robots can't come through Yahoo groups harvesting 
Email addresses. I have notice a recent increase in very SPAM
type emails. Usually people trying to enlarge my manhood, or 
someone trying to 'pump and dump' a Stock. 

So, could one or two people post back and let me know if my 
full email address is visible?

Thanks.

Steve/bboyminn







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 20:36:37 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:36:37 -0000
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
Message-ID: <e8mgkl+smmt@eGroups.com>

OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
email address? Please?

I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
encoded like most email addresses. I'm not sure if that is 
because Yahoo knows this is me and doesn't see any need to 
hide my email address from me, or if something else has 
gone wrong and now my email address is there for the world 
to see.

One of the reasons Yahoo hides your email address is so that
scanning robots can't come through Yahoo groups harvesting 
Email addresses. I have notice a recent increase in very SPAM
type emails. Usually people trying to enlarge my manhood, or 
someone trying to 'pump and dump' a Stock. 

So, could one or two people post back and let me know if my 
full email address is visible?

Thanks.

Steve/bboyminn







From lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 20:53:12 2006
From: lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com (lwilliams15209)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:53:12 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need some HELP with Group Information
Message-ID: <e8mhjo+pmt7@eGroups.com>

OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
email address? Please?

  Yes, it looks like your whole e-mail address did come through. I've 
noticed more spam coming through, too. I thought Yahoo was allowing 
more to go through if the spammers paid a fee to let their junk go 
through.

  Linda







From 4harveys at comcast.net  Fri Jul  7 14:25:33 2006
From: 4harveys at comcast.net (Gina)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:25:33 -0000
Subject: No more HP toys???!!!
Message-ID: <e8lqst+vf12@eGroups.com>

Is anyone else outraged that they seem to soley be targeting Harry 
Potter or at least HP merchandise to adults?  My son was heartbroken 
because all he has wanted every birthday was HP stuff and with the GOF 
release there was none to be found!  I know the movies are getting 
somewhat darker but our kids ages 5 and 6 have listed to all the books 
numerous times and we allow them to see the movies.  I was a little 
surprised but all the kids in our kids classes have still been going 
to see the at the theatres as well.

I find it really sad when they ask for new action figures of the new 
characters and cannot get them because WB is assuming it isn't 
profitable.  Does anyone know of a contact number where this can be 
complained about?
darboshea dobby









From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 22:39:12 2006
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:39:12 -0000
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8mgkl+smmt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8mnqg+75nm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
> right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
> email address? Please?
> 
> I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
> email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
> encoded like most email addresses. I'm not sure if that is 
> because Yahoo knows this is me and doesn't see any need to 
> hide my email address from me, or if something else has 
> gone wrong and now my email address is there for the world 
> to see.

KathyK:

Steve, I can't see your full email address from webview in any of your
recent posts here or on Main.  Yahoo does allow you to see your own
email address even when they prevent others from viewing it.  Anybody
reading via email would have your address.








From maritajan at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  7 23:02:27 2006
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:02:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8mnqg+75nm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060707230227.8667.qmail@web36812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I read OT posts in my regular email.  I can see the sender's full email
address in the "from" line on the email itself.

I don't read posts from the group site, so I don't know how it looks from
there.

MJ

--- KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
> >
> > OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
> > right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
> > email address? Please?
> > 
> > I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
> > email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
> > encoded like most email addresses. I'm not sure if that is 
> > because Yahoo knows this is me and doesn't see any need to 
> > hide my email address from me, or if something else has 
> > gone wrong and now my email address is there for the world 
> > to see.
> 
> KathyK:
> 
> Steve, I can't see your full email address from webview in any of your
> recent posts here or on Main.  Yahoo does allow you to see your own
> email address even when they prevent others from viewing it.  Anybody
> reading via email would have your address.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 



From jeanas33 at yahoo.de  Fri Jul  7 23:17:36 2006
From: jeanas33 at yahoo.de (jeanas33)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:17:36 -0000
Subject: Just wondering...
In-Reply-To: <e8grr8+aas1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8mq2g+99c7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jeanico2000" <jheiler at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply troubled 
if 
> JK kills Harry off in book 7? I keep reading these recent news items 
> about family groups and religious groups claiming that Harry's death 
> would be a good thing... that Harry must die, must sacrifice 
himself. 
> Apparently, even some child psychologists are saying this would be a 
> good learning tool for kids. I even read a comment in a 
> newspaper/magazine stating that Harry has to die while he is 'young 
> and vibrant' because no one wants to imagine an aging Harry Potter. 
> Any thoughts here? I know that Harry's only fiction, but I'm 
starting 
> to get anxious! LOL!
>
First I?new here 
I would quite dissapointed if JK decided to kill Harry off. To tell 
the truth I had read some of those interviews and was astounished like 
you at the ferocity of asking to kill Harry. 
I got the feeling that the religious hippie and some others are 
delighted to see Harry death because it would close the series. And 
for them it would be a kind of deliverance because in their mind this 
serie is the worst that had been written since years because it had 
this satanic touch.rooling my eyes at them all. As if the world had 
not other more important problem like violence or children abuse. 
But you cannot  denied that Harry Potter and his Potterverse did 
become another world which is discussed by millions like the events of 
the day. It may be a fiction work but it is staying alive because we 
are discussing about it. And that is what the catholic hippie are 
afraid of: that even after the end of the series the pottermania would 
be still there because people want to discuss it with. So for them 
killing Harry meant that everyone would forgot about this quickly. 

And the comment about the psychologist is really hilarious. The kids 
wouldnt  learn anything about it.
Harry is first a fictional character: he didnt exist at all. Of we got 
Daniel and Emma but they are the actors. 
What would better teach the cycle of live to a kid? the fact that a 
fictional character did died or the fact that his cat Glienn had died. 
The kids would perhaps remenbered about Harry but he would be more 
troubled about the death of his pet, because it was his pet a member 
of his family. 
And IMO I dont believe that Rowling would kill Harry off. She would 
had to kill others characters like  some of the Weasleys, Aurors, 
members of the Ministery etc to make the war believable. 
The curious thing about this discussion how would be killed in the 
Potterverse is showing that everyone had a different opinion. We are 
sure that Voldy would had to be kill but our mind differ from there. 
Some want to kill Harry off and to spare Ron, other prefers Ron death, 
some other agreed that Ginny could died or even Hermione. 
In short the character you dislike the most had to die and the 
character you like or identify himself had to stay alive.
Had anyone of you realized that some are reading the books like the 
Adventures of the Weasley Clan?  
Personnaly I asked myself if Rowling hadnt start this to see where we 
would tend the most:Kill one of the Trio or someone else ?Perhaps it 
only a kind a unkown pool that Rowling want to have. 
Cheers 
Jeanas 
 

 












From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  8 03:09:26 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 20:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8mh4c+tjhr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060708030926.4238.qmail@web51615.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Steve,
Now that you mention it, people have been offering to enhance my length and girth.  Maybe people have been complaining... that or someone has been peeking.  Like I'm peeking at your yahoo address right now.  It needs no enhancing but could be covered up a bit.
   
  Kemper


Steve <bboyminn at yahoo.com> wrote:
          OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
email address? Please?

I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
encoded like most email addresses. I'm not sure if that is 
because Yahoo knows this is me and doesn't see any need to 
hide my email address from me, or if something else has 
gone wrong and now my email address is there for the world 
to see.

One of the reasons Yahoo hides your email address is so that
scanning robots can't come through Yahoo groups harvesting 
Email addresses. I have notice a recent increase in very SPAM
type emails. Usually people trying to enlarge my manhood, or 
someone trying to 'pump and dump' a Stock. 

So, could one or two people post back and let me know if my 
full email address is visible?

Thanks.

Steve/bboyminn



         

 			
---------------------------------
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From bumbledor at comcast.net  Sat Jul  8 04:44:34 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 00:44:34 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
References: <e8lqst+vf12@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007701c6a249$35d4d210$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gina" <4harveys at comcast.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!


> Is anyone else outraged that they seem to soley be targeting Harry
> Potter or at least HP merchandise to adults?  My son was heartbroken
> because all he has wanted every birthday was HP stuff and with the GOF
> release there was none to be found!  I know the movies are getting
> somewhat darker but our kids ages 5 and 6 have listed to all the books
> numerous times and we allow them to see the movies.  I was a little
> surprised but all the kids in our kids classes have still been going
> to see the at the theatres as well.
>
> I find it really sad when they ask for new action figures of the new
> characters and cannot get them because WB is assuming it isn't
> profitable.  Does anyone know of a contact number where this can be
> complained about?
> darboshea dobby

Yes, I was disapointed in not only that, but the EA games version of GOF. It 
was the worst. And the only one I did not finish.  It seemed to me, that 
they flooded the market with useless junk during the first 3 movies, And 
this time they didn't even put out figurines, or much of anything..  I mark 
it up to WB screwing things up as usuall.





From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul  8 05:35:27 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:35:27 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <007701c6a249$35d4d210$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
References: <e8lqst+vf12@eGroups.com> <007701c6a249$35d4d210$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
Message-ID: <44AF441F.3000008@internode.on.net>

The Best HP thing I got was my Fossil Dumbledore Pocket Watch.

It feels heavy and looks almost authentic, a few of the hands
are drawn onto the clock face but the rest actually move.

What I particularly like about it is that it has no "Harry Potter"
logo on it whatsoever.

This is good because it seems like it may have been bought in a
place like diagon alley, which appeals to me a lot since I do buy
as much arcane looking stuff as I can.

I just think it'd be weird for a wizard/witch to have bought
wands and things and....

Hermione "Look Harry, For some reason, my wand has your name on it"

Ron "That's funny, so has mine!"

Hermione "And so have all my books!"

Hagrid "Hello kids, Hey, I just noticed the weirdest thing, all the owls
have Harrys name on their undersides and a little tag saying "Made in 
taiwan" fancy that?"

Wolfie! <made in china>



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul  8 08:28:31 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 04:28:31 -0400
Subject: When your employer says you're getting a bonus, do you say...
Message-ID: <1a2738400607080128x2000d89h44d7d9dd630407d1@mail.gmail.com>

"There's not enough money."

Heh, I actually did say that.  Since I'm the only office worker
'hired' (either you're family in the office or maintenance workers), I
balance all the company bank accounts and the management's account,
which handles employee pay (I issue my own pay too), doesn't have
enough to cover my monthly paycheck and even doesn't have enough to
cover a $150 bonus.  A couple other accounts have the $$$$$ but a few
others are low to bottomed out at this point.  Also having 8-10
million dollar condos as investments are taxing on accounts too.

Oh my gosh, 'foot in mouth'.  I *should've* said 'thank you' as my
boss's sister and business partner are smiling at me and saying I've
been doing a good job... but oooh no, I had to say that there's no
money.  I've been trying to crunch numbers to make sure the bills are
paid for all company divisions and it really is a lot of juggling
funds... and also having those unexpected moments of the shareholders
dipping into the funds and I'm talking thousands of dollars.  It's
nothing necessarily wrong I did as to why some accounts are in the
red.  Even in collections, there's only so much I can get from tenants
to pay *on time*.  Economy is definitely hard.

Why do I have to speak the first truth that comes to mind?
Rhetorical.  Gotta learn to not say what's really on my mind at
inappropriate moments... Although, hehe, does create *some* comical
awkward moments to reflect back on. ;-)

Dina



From drcarole71 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  8 17:36:42 2006
From: drcarole71 at yahoo.com (drcarole71)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:36:42 -0000
Subject: When your employer says you're getting a bonus, do you say...
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607080128x2000d89h44d7d9dd630407d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8oqfa+om3j@eGroups.com>

Have you thought about looking for a higher-paying job?  If the job 
market in your area is any good, you might consider it, especially if 
you are good at what you do.

Carole, a big fan of job satisfaction








From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  8 18:04:55 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:04:55 -0000
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8mgkl+smmt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8os47+pm67@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> OK, you're reading this post by ME, now look along the
> right side column and tell me if you can see my full 
> email address? Please?
> 
> I was browsing Yahoo Groups today and noticed that my full
> email address was being displayed rather than blocked or 
> encoded like most email addresses. ...edited...
> 
> So, could one or two people post back and let me know if my 
> full email address is visible?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>

bboyminn:

Thanks everyone.

If you are reading on-line in the group itself and you see...

bboyminn(a)...

then everything is OK. If on the other hand you are seeing...

bboyminn(a)yahoo.com

then we have a problem. It seems as if my full address is not shown,
so my mind is at ease now.

If you are reading using an email reader on your own computer, then,
for those receiving individual emails, seeing my email addres is
pretty normal However, I would like to make one request; don't read
your group emails using either MS-Outlook or MS-Outlook Express.
Nearly all the email viruses found exploit security flaws and
vulnerabilities in these two Microsoft programs. 

Typically, a email virus will infect Outlook and start broadcasting
emails to everyone in your Address Book. In a sense, you computer has
now become a server for broadcasting either viruses or for
broadcasting advertising. Some of the advertising I am receiving could
be coming from your computer without you knowing it.

Mozilla Thunderbird is a much better choice, it's an excellent email
program, has SPAM filters, and is not subject to the same security
flaws found in Microsoft products. Also, it would help you keep your
Yahoo Group emails separate from you regular personal emails. Most
important of all IT'S FREE.

These an other fine products can be found at -

http://www.mozilla.org/
http://www.mozilla.org/products/
http://www.mozilla.org/download.html

Foxfire - is a compact easy to use stand-alone Web Browser. Much
better than MS-Internet Explorer. The best part - 'Tabbed Browsing',
when you open a new webpage, it opens in a new 'Tab' at the top of the
browser rather than in a new window.

Thunderbird - is a stand-alone email and newreader program. I use this
to keep my business emails separate from my personal emails. Very
effective, and rarely to never is it infect by a virus.

Mozilla - is an all-in-one integrated Browser/email/chat program very
similar to the old Netscape Browser. I use this for all my browsing,
and rarely ever have a problem with viruses. On rare occassion, I find
a webpage that doesn't load properly, but that is maybe 1 in 100. An
excellent program. It also has a very effective Pop-Up blocker.

Note that Foxfire and Thunderbird are the preferred programs with the
most up-to-date technology. Mozilla integrated suite is still kept
around for those who prefer an all-in-one.

Thanks again for the help.

Steve/bboyminn






From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jul  8 18:09:53 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:09:53 -0000
Subject: When your employer says you're getting a bonus, do you say...
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607080128x2000d89h44d7d9dd630407d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8osdh+boib@eGroups.com>

"Dina Lerret" wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30324>:

> When your employer says you're getting a bonus, do you say...
> "There's not enough money."

> the management's account, which handles employee pay 
> (I issue my own pay too),
> doesn't have enough to cover my monthly paycheck 
> and even doesn't have enough to cover a $150 bonus.  

> Gotta learn to not say what's really on my mind at
> inappropriate moments... 

Maybe that protective concern for *their* accounts is part of why they
like you.

Altho' I hope there's enough money in the account to cover your
paycheck when payday comes. (Tim told me once of when his father
worked at a job whose employer NEVER put enough money into the payroll
account at the bank to cover all the paychecks. When the checks were
handed out, the employees would grab them and RACE to the bank. The
first several guys could cash their checks without problems but the
last several would be told 'Insufficient funds'.)







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul  8 21:02:00 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 17:02:00 -0400
Subject: When your employer says you're getting a bonus, do you say...
In-Reply-To: <e8osdh+boib@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400607080128x2000d89h44d7d9dd630407d1@mail.gmail.com>
	 <e8osdh+boib@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607081402q1aafe71cg36576a9fe62b9a5e@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/8/06, drcarole71 <drcarole71 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Have you thought about looking for a higher-paying job?  If the job
> market in your area is any good, you might consider it, especially if
> you are good at what you do.
>
> Carole, a big fan of job satisfaction

Other than some irksome habits of the family, the job is good, the
folk are nice, and the pay reasonable considering I do 'general
office'--other than payroll and some HR processing, I had no
experience for 'all purpose', especially in real estate, when I was
hired last year.  I don't have a supervisor 'breathing down my back'
and I can squeeze in time to fool around on the internet as long as I
get my job done on time... Heck, I mostly work by myself in the office
and have the keys to the place.  After eight and a half years of being
on the 'corporate hierarchy' of departments as a cog being grinded
down, having the Supervisor from Hell (tm), and arriving home
depressed and *loathing* coming to work, the lack of being able to
cash my paychecks in a timely manner is a small trade off because,
unlike some people, I'm a stingy beyotch. ;-)

I just came back from Super Target.  I bought six 64oz bottles of
apple juice, twenty single serve containers of Kellogg cereal, ten
bags of 9+oz M&Ms, and a dozen piece pack of sushi... all for $1.33,
after $34 in coupons. :-D  The cashier was like 'there's gotta be a
rule against this' and I'm like 'it's not against the rules if
Target's coupon says you can use one coupon per item and there's no
limit specified'.  Find the loophole and roll with it, baby.  Anyway,
most of the coupons expire today and were tied into the Fourth of
July.  Still, the M&Ms were $.50 each and I had $1 coupons for them
and the cereal was $.77 and dollar coupons on those too, so I
accumulated credit to make the sushi, which was 10% off, and apple
juice, which were $.50 each after coupons, almost free.  None were
taxed.

Oh, and after my boss's sister and his business partner complain and
complain some more (going on for months) about the old multi-function
printer's feeder not working and it being slow in copying and faxing.
I buy a new $280 (several businesses were charging a similar amount)
All-In-One HP inkjet printer for $160 and change, including $10.50 in
taxes--Staples price-matched for a discount of $110 since Office Depot
was doing $100 off until today and I had a $20 Staples coupon.  Dude,
my boss emails me from Europe, 'I want a laser AIO', and I'm like
'...'.  Not happening from my end of things considering B&W laser AIOs
run from $300-500 and color laser AIOs are $700-1,000, not including
used models.  I told my boss this, and if he didn't want to keep that
new inkjet for the office, *I'll* take it because it's a fairly sweet
deal and the only printer I have at home is an Epson from 1996 which
works about 15% of the time. {g}


On 7/8/06, Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) <catlady at wicca.net> wrote:

> Altho' I hope there's enough money in the account to cover your
> paycheck when payday comes. (Tim told me once of when his father
> worked at a job whose employer NEVER put enough money into the payroll
> account at the bank to cover all the paychecks. When the checks were
> handed out, the employees would grab them and RACE to the bank. The
> first several guys could cash their checks without problems but the
> last several would be told 'Insufficient funds'.)

Heh, there's *definitely* money but not in the accounts I need them to
be and I can't easily transfer them around without an accountant going
AWOL or a shareholder going WTF. {g}  Summer months are especially
difficult in collecting money from some tenants because their business
slows.

Not the most *ideal* situation but I take care of myself and I manage
funds.  On average, I try to keep 2-3 months of 'basic survival money'
in my account, so I'm not necessarily living 'paycheck to paycheck'.

Dina



From bumbledor at comcast.net  Sat Jul  8 21:03:08 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 17:03:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!


> The Best HP thing I got was my Fossil Dumbledore Pocket Watch.
>
> It feels heavy and looks almost authentic, a few of the hands
> are drawn onto the clock face but the rest actually move.
>
> What I particularly like about it is that it has no "Harry Potter"
> logo on it whatsoever.
>
> This is good because it seems like it may have been bought in a
> place like diagon alley, which appeals to me a lot since I do buy
> as much arcane looking stuff as I can.
>
> I just think it'd be weird for a wizard/witch to have bought
> wands and things and....
>
> Hermione "Look Harry, For some reason, my wand has your name on it"
>
> Ron "That's funny, so has mine!"
>
> Hermione "And so have all my books!"
>
> Hagrid "Hello kids, Hey, I just noticed the weirdest thing, all the owls
> have Harrys name on their undersides and a little tag saying "Made in
> taiwan" fancy that?"
>
> Wolfie! <made in china>
>

Yeah, well I have been looking at those.. Nice.
I just wish I could find some adult sized hats. Owls, etc..
NO ONE has the larger sized hats.. Seems they all are made for kids.
WB is messing up again.. They forget that there is a large contigency of 
adult fans.

Maybe thats whats wrong with american media? Too programed to think that a 
story may
attract an audience bigger than the targeted one.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul  9 03:20:49 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:20:49 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <003301c6a2d1$ea1cac10$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
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Message-ID: <44B07611.8040705@internode.on.net>


> Yeah, well I have been looking at those.. Nice.
> I just wish I could find some adult sized hats. Owls, etc..
> NO ONE has the larger sized hats.. Seems they all are made for kids.
> WB is messing up again.. They forget that there is a large contigency of 
> adult fans.
> 
> Maybe thats whats wrong with american media? Too programed to think that a 
> story may
> attract an audience bigger than the targeted one.

It's worldwide.

JKR said her books were for anyone who wanted to read them.

But once the marketing guys came into play with their charts and
"target audience" theories, well...

What I'd like is to get some real looking wizard clothes.
thinking of going to a place which sells gothic clothing.

I told my friends that as i age, I will begin to look more wizard like
that's if I can find the apparel. :)

BTW: the watch can be seen at my page: www.users.on.net/~wuff/ [in the
about section there's a link].

and you can still sometimes see them for sale on ebay.

Wolfie!



From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Sun Jul  9 04:08:29 2006
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 21:08:29 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Buying an MP3 Player (Help!)
In-Reply-To: <44B07611.8040705@internode.on.net>
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Message-ID: <d86315ca40e3e3098de72c6144ca4835@fandm.edu>

Okay, well, my iPod has finally kicked the proverbial bucket.  Granted, 
it had a pretty long life for an iPod -- three and a half years -- but 
I'm still kind of upset that something I paid several hundred dollars 
for didn't even last me through college.

So now I'm looking for a new MP3 player, and I'm not sure I want 
another iPod, but the other choices are simply dizzying, so I've come 
to the HPFGUers, the most well-informed group of people I know. ^_~

Please, please give me some recommendations.  I'm not even sure what 
size/capabilities I'm looking for.  The LOML has a 60 GB video iPod, 
and I'm pretty enamored with the idea of being able to watch Veronica 
Mars while on the elliptical machine at the gym.  However, video 
players may be a little rich for my blood -- and really, all I used my 
old iPod for was the couple hundred songs I listened to the most and a 
bit of external HD space (it was a 40 GB).  So, anything you've tried 
and liked -- be it a 1 GB MP3 player or a 60 GB multimedia player -- 
tell me about it.

Some factors that matter to me, in rough order of decreasing importance:
* Price per GB and/or extra features (like video playback).
* Price, period.
* Lifetime.
* Hours of playback.
* Durability.
* I like pretty, but I can deal with homely but functional.

Rules:
* Nothing less than 1 GB.
* Nothing more than $300.
* Needs to be Mac-compatible.

And if any one knows of any promotional offers or coupons they could 
point me toward, that would be great.

Laura




From bumbledor at comcast.net  Sun Jul  9 04:56:46 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 00:56:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
References: <e8lqst+vf12@eGroups.com> <007701c6a249$35d4d210$6401a8c0@bigcauldron> <44AF441F.3000008@internode.on.net> <003301c6a2d1$ea1cac10$6401a8c0@bigcauldron> <44B07611.8040705@internode.on.net>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!


>
>> Yeah, well I have been looking at those.. Nice.
>> I just wish I could find some adult sized hats. Owls, etc..
>> NO ONE has the larger sized hats.. Seems they all are made for kids.
>> WB is messing up again.. They forget that there is a large contigency of
>> adult fans.
>>
>> Maybe thats whats wrong with american media? Too programed to think that 
>> a
>> story may
>> attract an audience bigger than the targeted one.
>
> It's worldwide.
>
> JKR said her books were for anyone who wanted to read them.
>
> But once the marketing guys came into play with their charts and
> "target audience" theories, well...
>
> What I'd like is to get some real looking wizard clothes.
> thinking of going to a place which sells gothic clothing.
>
> I told my friends that as i age, I will begin to look more wizard like
> that's if I can find the apparel. :)
>
> BTW: the watch can be seen at my page: www.users.on.net/~wuff/ [in the
> about section there's a link].
>
> and you can still sometimes see them for sale on ebay.
>
> Wolfie!
>
Yep, thats the watch.. ya know how much they go for?!!




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul  9 08:21:23 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:21:23 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <002101c6a314$14c16590$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
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Message-ID: <44B0BC83.5030403@internode.on.net>

bumbledor wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>
> To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
> 
> 
>>> Yeah, well I have been looking at those.. Nice.
>>> I just wish I could find some adult sized hats. Owls, etc..
>>> NO ONE has the larger sized hats.. Seems they all are made for kids.
>>> WB is messing up again.. They forget that there is a large contigency of
>>> adult fans.
>>>
>>> Maybe thats whats wrong with american media? Too programed to think that 
>>> a
>>> story may
>>> attract an audience bigger than the targeted one.
>> It's worldwide.
>>
>> JKR said her books were for anyone who wanted to read them.
>>
>> But once the marketing guys came into play with their charts and
>> "target audience" theories, well...
>>
>> What I'd like is to get some real looking wizard clothes.
>> thinking of going to a place which sells gothic clothing.
>>
>> I told my friends that as i age, I will begin to look more wizard like
>> that's if I can find the apparel. :)
>>
>> BTW: the watch can be seen at my page: www.users.on.net/~wuff/ [in the
>> about section there's a link].
>>
>> and you can still sometimes see them for sale on ebay.
>>
>> Wolfie!
>>
> Yep, thats the watch.. ya know how much they go for?!!

Well I payed a very nice woman in Indianapolis around $200US.
I had bought a HP lamp from her [which I still havent seen working 
because it has a US plug on the end, I need to get a transformer for
it since electricity over here is 240v 50hz] and she said she saw one
in a local fossil watch shop and said she'd get it for me if I wanted.
she thought that if I didn't pay, she'd sell it on ebay seperately.

Then when everything turned up, I sent her some chocolates to thank her.

I have seen the watch going for as high as... I think it was $700US on
Ebay... and they sold it which amazed me.

Then the HP fad died off a bit and prices came down.

There is a wizard watch which has a similar look, but a lot of winders
on the side of it, and an unusual glass over the top...
but it has the HP logo inside and isn't really a HP thing...
but it's quite nice just the same.

I believe the fossil watches use seiko innards too, seiko is a good 
brand... I bought a moon phase watch when I was 21 and I still wear
it today [I'm 40].

I'd be careful of bids going at more than $400, but then they are
very rare now.

Wolfie!



From kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul  9 20:03:35 2006
From: kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:03:35 -0000
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8os47+pm67@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8rnen+lf0q@eGroups.com>

> bboyminn:
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> If you are reading on-line in the group itself and you see...
> 
> bboyminn(a)...
> 
> then everything is OK. If on the other hand you are seeing...
> 
> bboyminn(a)yahoo.com
> 
> then we have a problem. It seems as if my full address is not shown,
> so my mind is at ease now. <snip>

I put together a little general Yahoo info here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin_Files/Yahoo_Help_File


Relevant bit:
"Email address:  Yahoo "munges" addresses online, which means that
someone reading posts by webview will not be able to see your full 
email address; what they will see is something like this:  
"hpfgu_elves at ..." List members can see their own full addresses in 
their own posts (and can also delete their own posts), and the list 
elves are able to see full addresses.  (This goes for the messages 
on the Announcements list, as well.)

However, full addresses are visible in emails.  This means that list
members who receive posts by either Individual Emails or Digests 
will be able to see the address in the messages they receive in their 
inbox."

So yes, someone can't see your full address in webview (nor will a 
Google search turn up your posts or address from the HPfGU groups), 
but people who receive messages by individual mail and digest will 
see your address in full.

Linda:
> I've noticed more spam coming through, too. I thought Yahoo was 
> allowing more to go through if the spammers paid a fee to let 
> their junk go through. 

Mm, who knows...you know, if you haven't edited your Marketing 
Preferences (via your Yahoo user account), that might help:

"To do this, sign in to Yahoo, go into "My Account".   This takes 
you to the "Yahoo! Account Info" page; in the "Member Information" 
section, there's a link that says "Edit your marketing preferences."

Follow this to the next page; in the "Special offers and marketing 
communications from Yahoo!" section, you'll see a series of checked 
boxes. Uncheck them (any you do not want) and scroll to the bottom 
of the page where you'll see a "Save Changes" button to click."

I still gets loads of spam anyway, but Yah's spam filters seem to do
a good job of catching most of it, thank goodness.

--Kelley







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 23:40:12 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:40:12 -0400
Subject: New interest in TV series, Supernatural and Re: Buying an MP3 Player (Help!)
Message-ID: <1a2738400607091640o7e9aa333s61a8efb9e234b60c@mail.gmail.com>

Combining topics.  First part is on what little I know about MP3
players and second part is a new interest in the WB TV series,
Supernatural.

On 7/9/06, Laura Ingalls Huntley <lhuntley at fandm.edu> wrote:

> Please, please give me some recommendations.  I'm not even sure what
> size/capabilities I'm looking for.  The LOML has a 60 GB video iPod,
> and I'm pretty enamored with the idea of being able to watch Veronica
> Mars while on the elliptical machine at the gym.  However, video
> players may be a little rich for my blood -- and really, all I used my
> old iPod for was the couple hundred songs I listened to the most and a
> bit of external HD space (it was a 40 GB).  So, anything you've tried
> and liked -- be it a 1 GB MP3 player or a 60 GB multimedia player --
> tell me about it.

I've heard mostly good things about the Creative [Zen] line and their
durability and affordability.  However, they aren't Mac compatible,
unless you install this unofficial freeware program:
http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EA6WOE/102-2497247-1659314?n=172282

The above is a Creative Zen 20gig multimedia.  It's originally priced
at ~$280 but it's now ~$160 with free shipping, figuring in a
rebate--no taxes.  Nifty thing about Amazon.com is that, if the price
drops (standard is thirty days from purchase but some have tried this
months later, including myself), Amazon will price match its lower
amount and refund you the difference.

Sorry I can't help out on this topic a bit more.  I don't own an MP3
player... or at least a working one. :-(  I got this generic 128meg
thingie for $5 as a knick-knack and it briefly worked but now it's
just a small flash drive because it won't 'play' music.  Where are my
minions that will buy me an iPod?!! {chuckle}

As to why I combined posts, I tried watching Veronica Mars and the
series didn't catch my interest but that's normal for me.  I usually
don't get interested in a series/fandom until a second or more pass.
For example, I just recently got interested in Supernatural.  Since
I'm kinda in a so-so stage for Smallville, I left the TV station on WB
and there was Supernatural, which I skipped the first time around.
Reminded me of how I used to watch Friday the 13th, the Series--Micki
looked like such a slut. {g}  Mystery/suspense has always appealed to
me.  Smallville was 3-4 passes... Harry Potter was also multiple
passes. ;-)

Dina



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 23:45:52 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:45:52 -0400
Subject: Need some HELP with Group Information
In-Reply-To: <e8os47+pm67@eGroups.com>
References: <e8mgkl+smmt@eGroups.com> <e8os47+pm67@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607091645t6be14a1eg5aa6650ced22f3c6@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/8/06, Steve <bboyminn at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.mozilla.org/download.html
>
> Foxfire - is a compact easy to use stand-alone Web Browser. Much
> better than MS-Internet Explorer. The best part - 'Tabbed Browsing',
> when you open a new webpage, it opens in a new 'Tab' at the top of the
> browser rather than in a new window.

> Note that Foxfire and Thunderbird are the preferred programs with the
> most up-to-date technology. Mozilla integrated suite is still kept
> around for those who prefer an all-in-one.

Foxfire? ;-)  I'm using Firefox.  Though, you can mock my not remember
Mozilla's 'all-encompassing' (everything but the proverbial kitchen
sink) new project's name... I think it's called SeaMonkey. {g}

Dina



From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jul 10 06:58:58 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:58:58 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
Message-ID: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/8/06 11:21:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
wuff at internode.on.net writes:


> What I'd like is to get some real looking wizard clothes.
> thinking of going to a place which sells gothic clothing

Sandy:
I want a *real* Harry Potter robe (several of them actually) and a hooded 
cloak. I bought an adult-sized HP robe off the Internet last year to wear to the 
release party for the book, and paid almost $40 for it. I was so disappointed 
when I got it because it was a piece of polyester crap. Not at all happy with 
it I went to a costume store downtown. I bought another robe down there. It 
was actually a monk's robe, all one piece (meaning it wasn't open down the 
front), but it was black and hooded and bottom weight cotton so it was closer to 
what I wanted. It is one size fits all, and a bit snugger than I like. I don't 
dare wash it or I will never be able to squeeze into it again. I bought a 
pattern that was a close match, but I can't sew and don't have a sewing machine. I 
was going to have my daughter make it for me but she told me she sold her 
sewing machine. I have always loved long, flowing garments, and anything with a 
hood. From the first time I saw SS I immediately wanted robes and a cape. I 
would wear them too, in cool weather over my regular clothes. Someone mentioned 
hats. I have a witch hat that I have had for years. I wore it to the party and 
made a band for it out of green sequined material. At the costume store I 
bought a purple and gold wizard's hat. They had a really neat black one with stars 
and moons on it that I just loved, but it was too big. I put it on and it fell 
over my ears and down to my eyebrows. I have a larger than average head so I 
can't imagine who that hat would possibly fit. It was heavy too. I would just 
love to be able to come home from work and put on a nice Hogwarts/HP robe to 
relax in. An all black one, not the red lined ones. 

Sandy


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From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 10 14:26:34 2006
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:26:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP wishlist
In-Reply-To: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060710142634.56942.qmail@web36812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I *soooooo* want a robe like the emerald green cloak McGonagall wears in the movies, but with a hood.  It would absolutely become my winter cloak; I'd have no problem wearing it out for everyone to see.  I just adore that heavy, velvet cloak.  
   
  I've looked on Ebay, but the robes there for the most part look light and a little cheap.  I want a heavy, lined, quality cloak.  Impossible to find, though.
   
  I also want a Firebolt to hang on my dining room wall.  A solid wood Firebolt replica.  Alivans has a knock-off, but it doesn't have that metal thingy where the broom straw meets the handle.
   
  MJ
   
   

 		
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jul 10 15:00:36 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:00:36 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP wishlist
In-Reply-To: <20060710142634.56942.qmail@web36812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060710142634.56942.qmail@web36812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <44B26B94.4030607@internode.on.net>

Marita Jan wrote:
> I *soooooo* want a robe like the emerald green cloak McGonagall wears in the movies, but with a hood.  It would absolutely become my winter cloak; I'd have no problem wearing it out for everyone to see.  I just adore that heavy, velvet cloak.  
>    
>   I've looked on Ebay, but the robes there for the most part look light and a little cheap.  I want a heavy, lined, quality cloak.  Impossible to find, though.
>    
>   I also want a Firebolt to hang on my dining room wall.  A solid wood Firebolt replica.  Alivans has a knock-off, but it doesn't have that metal thingy where the broom straw meets the handle.
>    
>   MJ

Yeah, a lot of that stuff needs to be hand crafted.

I love the things in Dumbledores office, I would love a replica office
just like his.

*sigh*

Wolfie!


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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 10 15:35:05 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:35:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: What to do in San Diego first weekend in August?
Message-ID: <20060710153505.72827.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey all,
   
  Any one have any ideas for what to do in SD for cheapish?  I've been to the Zoo and to Sea World and am not interested in doing so again.
   
  I'm looking for day events or timekillers thought a cool place to Karoake (sp?) would be great.  Also, I'll be staying near the airport and my transportation is limited, but I'm not afraid to use the bus.
   
  Thanks!

 		
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 10 15:36:36 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:36:36 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c6a436$a15a3270$06a4a8c0@rosie>

[Sandy]:
| I bought a 
| pattern that was a close match, but I can't sew and don't 
| have a sewing machine. I 
| was going to have my daughter make it for me but she told me 
| she sold her 
| sewing machine.

[Lee]:
Poor Sandy! :-(

I can sew, but can't cut worth a dine.  Being blind, I can't see the pattern
lines, and I don't have a cutting table.  I'd like to make a good robe,
too.  I have two sewing machines, one particularly good for this type of
thing as it's a quilting machine with lovely finishing stitches.

Good luck!

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From HMaffioli at san.rr.com  Mon Jul 10 16:54:43 2006
From: HMaffioli at san.rr.com (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:54:43 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What to do in San Diego first weekend in
	August?
In-Reply-To: <20060710153505.72827.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C0D7D463.F5E%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>

Best place to Karaoke is The Lamplighter in Mission Hills.  It is close
enough to the airport.  It is about a $10 cab ride but quite worth it ( I am
sure there is a bus!).  There are also a large selection of good restraunts
and things to see near it.  If you are staying by the airport I would
recommend the gaslamp/ballpark district for shopping and sight seeing.  The
ship used in Master and Commander is docked at the harbor there as well.

Heather



On 7/10/06 8:35 AM, "kemper mentor" <kempermentor at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> Any one have any ideas for what to do in SD for cheapish?  I've been to the
> Zoo and to Sea World and am not interested in doing so again.
> 
> I'm looking for day events or timekillers thought a cool place to Karoake
> (sp?) would be great.  Also, I'll be staying near the airport and my
> transportation is limited, but I'm not afraid to use the bus.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low  PC-to-Phone call rates.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
>   




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From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Tue Jul 11 01:37:53 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:37:53 -0000
Subject: What to do in San Diego first weekend in August?
In-Reply-To: <20060710153505.72827.qmail@web51611.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e8uvdh+hame@eGroups.com>

 kemper mentor 
>
> Hey all,
>    
>   Any one have any ideas for what to do in SD for cheapish?  I've 
been to the Zoo and to Sea World and am not interested in doing so 
again.
>    
>   I'm looking for day events or timekillers thought a cool place to 
Karoake (sp?) would be great.  Also, I'll be staying near the airport 
and my transportation is limited, but I'm not afraid to use the bus.
>    
>   Thanks!
> 
Luckdragon:
My Husband just returned from a business trip in San Diego and he 
recomends visiting one of the beaches (Pacific Beach) and an aircraft 
carrier that is near the airport(cost $15/U.S.). More on the carrier 
can be found at the San Diego Naval Museum website if you do a search.







From harryp at stararcher.com  Tue Jul 11 02:55:39 2006
From: harryp at stararcher.com (ecaplan_52556)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:55:39 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e8v3vb+abh7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
> 
> Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
> afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys
>

Buy a Macintosh.  I'm coming into this thread rather late, but you
should do yourself a favor a look at the new Intel Macintosh.

If you still want to run Windows sometimes, the new Intel Macs can do
that in two ways:

(1) Get "BootCamp" FREE from Apple, so you can boot up your machine as
either a Mac or as a Windows machine.  I haven't done this (see #2),
but I've read that it works really, really well.

(2) Get the PC-emulation software "Parallels"
(http://www.parallels.com) that is working fantasticly well for me. 
You run the program and right there in a new window is Windows, while
 at the same time the rest of the machine is running Mac programs. 
The speed is excellent.  (You also have to buy a copy of the Windows
OS.  Price: Parallels: ~$80 USD.  Windows ~$100 if you buy online.)

I've had only three quirks with Windows via Parallels:
(i) I caught a Windows virus within 2 weeks of running Windows...
after NEVER having had a virus on my Mac in the 13 years I've bought
Macs.  I went and bought Norton for Windows to protect my Windows
environement!;

(ii) A game I tried via Parallels insisted it needed direct access to
my graphics card, which Parallels would give (but see below);

(iii) It's still clumsy to copy files between the Mac and Windows
environments... you need to use something like FTP.  I understand the
Parallels company is working on that for the next release.


Like I said, do yourself a favor a look at this option: go to the
Apple store and tell the peoples you are a PC user and you're thinking
of switching.  Ask about BootCamp and Parallels.

You can get an Mac Intel Mini for ~$600 USD (no monitor or keyboard,
but you can use the monitor and keyboard from your old PC).

Why buy another Nimbus when you can get a Firebolt?  :-)

Eddie






From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul 11 03:03:40 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:03:40 +1000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
References: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <44B3150C.6020502@internode.on.net>

This thought just struck me.

Their Dad had a top position in the "force",
which surely must have paid reasonably well.

Yes, they were a large family, but then...
No electricity or gas bills, and one seldom
used car.

Interesting.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul 11 02:57:01 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:57:01 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
References: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <44B3137D.4090800@internode.on.net>

If clothing is what is wanted, why not put this on a webpage
I'm certain someone would see it and at least e-mail us on
how to get similar clothing.

Wolfie!



From lhuntley at fandm.edu  Tue Jul 11 04:23:11 2006
From: lhuntley at fandm.edu (Laura Ingalls Huntley)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:23:11 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New interest in TV series, Supernatural and Re: Buying an MP3 Player (Help!)
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607091640o7e9aa333s61a8efb9e234b60c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1a2738400607091640o7e9aa333s61a8efb9e234b60c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d3611c19c1a9edb44ebacbbc50bc768e@fandm.edu>

Dina:
> I've heard mostly good things about the Creative [Zen] line and their
> durability and affordability.  However, they aren't Mac compatible,
> unless you install this unofficial freeware program:
> http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EA6WOE/102-2497247-1659314? 
> n=172282
>
> The above is a Creative Zen 20gig multimedia. <SNIP>

Thanks Dina!  That is indeed a very good deal.  I also found a  
video/mp3 player by Toshiba for $258.00, but, again, I'd have to find a  
way to make it Mac-compatible.

Dina:
> As to why I combined posts, I tried watching Veronica Mars and the
> series didn't catch my interest but that's normal for me.  I usually
> don't get interested in a series/fandom until a second or more pass.
> For example, I just recently got interested in Supernatural.  Since
> I'm kinda in a so-so stage for Smallville, I left the TV station on WB
> and there was Supernatural, which I skipped the first time around.
> Reminded me of how I used to watch Friday the 13th, the Series--Micki
> looked like such a slut. {g}  Mystery/suspense has always appealed to
> me.  Smallville was 3-4 passes... Harry Potter was also multiple
> passes. ;-)

Jensen Whats-his-name is quite pretty.  I like Supernatural on  
every-now-and-then basis.  It's a convenient kind of show because the  
individual episodes are fun and engaging even if you don't know the  
back story.

It also took me awhile to get into Veronica Mars.  The first several  
episodes didn't really grab me -- then later I saw the middle episodes  
and started watching a bit more obsessively, and then by the last six  
or so I somehow morphed into a crazed fan. (Crazed!)

But, I'm pretty prone to obsession, personally, so maybe that's just  
me. ^_~

Laura




From bumbledor at comcast.net  Tue Jul 11 05:03:19 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:03:19 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
References: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com> <44B3137D.4090800@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <005601c6a4a7$53a69e80$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!


> If clothing is what is wanted, why not put this on a webpage
> I'm certain someone would see it and at least e-mail us on
> how to get similar clothing.
>
> Wolfie!
>
Well, the one place I tried, was blackcat robes. The one I got was a basic 
black with a hood, and wand pocket. And im not sure but i think it has to be 
drycleaned.
What I would like to find, is one with a hood, wand pocket, and some 4inch 
by 4inch or so inside pockets for holding stuff.




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 11 05:30:50 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:30:50 -0000
Subject: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <44B26B94.4030607@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e8vd2a+kfk4@eGroups.com>

First there is a place to get HP things for adults. Robes, hats and 
so on.  Order of Merlin at www.orderofmerlin.com  has custom make 
robes. They have official McGonagall, DD, hats too.  I have a robe 
from there and I love it.

Also the place to get the really cool HP stuff is, I am sorry to 
say, Japan. It seems that the HP market over there is very hot. I 
went to the Japan website a year ago and tried to buy somethings 
just by looking at the pictures because I could not read anything. 
But when I put in my address I got a note that they can not ship to 
the U.S.

Finally I did get one of the items that I wanted for 3x the price on 
e-bay.  There is a guy from Japan that gets the stuff and sells it 
on e-bay.  I have a small Quidditch chest with the beater, bludger, 
snitch, etc. It is really a jewelry box. And very nice. Well made.

About a year ago I did call a contact that I had at WB and he told 
me all about the Japanese market. I said "well the adults in the 
U.S. want this stuff too!". They even sell all of these really cool 
things at the theaters when the movies comes out, which they don't 
do here. Part of the contract with the U.S. theaters is they will 
pull the films if they sell anything in the lobbies.  I know some 
places get away with doing that anyway, but they would be in trouble 
with WB if caught. 

I was collecting everything that I could, including the action 
figures. I was disappointed that there wasn't any for the last 
movie. There were a lot of companies that made stuff early on, but I 
think the licensing prices got a bit high and a lot of companies let 
their licenses go. Maybe if WB didn't charge so much for the license 
there would be more merchandise. 

I think that there might be a big push next year with a movie and 
the last book ocming out. But after that I don't expect much in the 
way of new items. The merchandise is tied to the movie releases, not 
to the books, but even so, I expect it to dry up pretty soon.

Tonks







From bumbledor at comcast.net  Tue Jul 11 08:52:07 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 04:52:07 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
References: <e8vd2a+kfk4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000801c6a4c7$4a63f5f0$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tonks" <tonks_op at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:30 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys


> First there is a place to get HP things for adults. Robes, hats and
> so on.  Order of Merlin at www.orderofmerlin.com  has custom make
> robes. They have official McGonagall, DD, hats too.  I have a robe
> from there and I love it.
>
> Also the place to get the really cool HP stuff is, I am sorry to
> say, Japan. It seems that the HP market over there is very hot. I
> went to the Japan website a year ago and tried to buy somethings
> just by looking at the pictures because I could not read anything.
> But when I put in my address I got a note that they can not ship to
> the U.S.
>
> Finally I did get one of the items that I wanted for 3x the price on
> e-bay.  There is a guy from Japan that gets the stuff and sells it
> on e-bay.  I have a small Quidditch chest with the beater, bludger,
> snitch, etc. It is really a jewelry box. And very nice. Well made.

I saw the quiddich box.. thought they wanted too much for it..


>
> About a year ago I did call a contact that I had at WB and he told
> me all about the Japanese market. I said "well the adults in the
> U.S. want this stuff too!". They even sell all of these really cool
> things at the theaters when the movies comes out, which they don't
> do here. Part of the contract with the U.S. theaters is they will
> pull the films if they sell anything in the lobbies.  I know some
> places get away with doing that anyway, but they would be in trouble
> with WB if caught.
>
> I was collecting everything that I could, including the action
> figures. I was disappointed that there wasn't any for the last
> movie. There were a lot of companies that made stuff early on, but I
> think the licensing prices got a bit high and a lot of companies let
> their licenses go. Maybe if WB didn't charge so much for the license
> there would be more merchandise.
>
> I think that there might be a big push next year with a movie and
> the last book ocming out. But after that I don't expect much in the
> way of new items. The merchandise is tied to the movie releases, not
> to the books, but even so, I expect it to dry up pretty soon.
>
> Tonks
>
Quite frankly, I think WB totaly screwed up..
I think they got bugs bunny on the brain syndrome.. and don't know how to 
handle a REAL film/story.




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 11 12:48:03 2006
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <e8vd2a+kfk4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060711124803.14422.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What do you mean by "Japan website"?  Do you have a URL?
   
  Thanks.
   
  MJ

Tonks <tonks_op at yahoo.com> wrote:
          First there is a place to get HP things for adults. Robes, hats and 
so on. Order of Merlin at www.orderofmerlin.com has custom make 
robes. They have official McGonagall, DD, hats too. I have a robe 
from there and I love it.

Also the place to get the really cool HP stuff is, I am sorry to 
say, Japan. It seems that the HP market over there is very hot. I 
went to the Japan website a year ago and tried to buy somethings 
just by looking at the pictures because I could not read anything. 
But when I put in my address I got a note that they can not ship to 
the U.S.

Finally I did get one of the items that I wanted for 3x the price on 
e-bay. There is a guy from Japan that gets the stuff and sells it 
on e-bay. I have a small Quidditch chest with the beater, bludger, 
snitch, etc. It is really a jewelry box. And very nice. Well made.

About a year ago I did call a contact that I had at WB and he told 
me all about the Japanese market. I said "well the adults in the 
U.S. want this stuff too!". They even sell all of these really cool 
things at the theaters when the movies comes out, which they don't 
do here. Part of the contract with the U.S. theaters is they will 
pull the films if they sell anything in the lobbies. I know some 
places get away with doing that anyway, but they would be in trouble 
with WB if caught. 

I was collecting everything that I could, including the action 
figures. I was disappointed that there wasn't any for the last 
movie. There were a lot of companies that made stuff early on, but I 
think the licensing prices got a bit high and a lot of companies let 
their licenses go. Maybe if WB didn't charge so much for the license 
there would be more merchandise. 

I think that there might be a big push next year with a movie and 
the last book ocming out. But after that I don't expect much in the 
way of new items. The merchandise is tied to the movie releases, not 
to the books, but even so, I expect it to dry up pretty soon.

Tonks



         

 		
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul 11 14:12:37 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:12:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No more HP toys???!!!
In-Reply-To: <005601c6a4a7$53a69e80$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
References: <563.147cdb4.31e354b2@aol.com> <44B3137D.4090800@internode.on.net> <005601c6a4a7$53a69e80$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
Message-ID: <44B3B1D5.8060004@internode.on.net>

I did buy something recently which suits me.
A set of werewolf fangs, since sadly I cannot
grow my own *though I have tried*.

www.vampfangs.com

Some of their rings and things also look
quite nice.

Wolfie!



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From bridge13219 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 11 15:40:05 2006
From: bridge13219 at yahoo.com (bridge13219)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:40:05 -0000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <44B3150C.6020502@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e90gol+17pt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> This thought just struck me.
> 
> Their Dad had a top position in the "force",
> which surely must have paid reasonably well.
> 
> Yes, they were a large family, but then...
> No electricity or gas bills, and one seldom
> used car.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Wolfie!

bridge13219:

I think you hit on the answer:  LARGE family!  Plus it doesn't sound 
like the department Papa Weasley worked in was high priority so 
maybe it wasn't a high-paying job.  7 kids to outfit and
for school for 7 years!  For at least 3 of the years we read about 
they had 
FIVE kids in school (probably more when Bill & Charlie were in 
school).  The one piece of canon I can think of is in 
HBP when Harry & Ron get new potions books and it was something like 
9 or 11 Galleons FOR ONE BOOK!  No wonder they were broke!











From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 11 19:31:19 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:31:19 -0000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <44B3150C.6020502@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e90ua7+8uue@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> This thought just struck me.
> 
> Their Dad had a top position in the "force",
> which surely must have paid reasonably well.
> 
> Yes, they were a large family, but then...
> No electricity or gas bills, and one seldom
> used car.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Wolfie!
>

bboyminn:

Well, here's the thing, the Weasley's aren't poor, they are just
normal. I mean can you honestly say that you or any other person in
this group can and would give your kids each and every little thing
their hearts desired? Can you spell 'spoiled rotten'?

The Weasleys are working class like many of the working class people I
live with in small town America. They are able to provide for the
basic needs of their families, and they are able to do so nicely, but
excess and extravagances are kept to an absolute minimum. They have
money, they just don't have money to burn.

Have you ever seen a Weasley go hungry? I don't think so. Mrs. Weasley
seems to serve up a huge feast at every meal. Just feeding that brood
must cost a fortune. 

Everyone in the Weasley family has every thing the /need/; food,
shelter, clothing, education, etc. Just because Ron can't have
everything he /wants/ doesn't mean he is poor. Remember the most of
Ron's griping about being poor is in response to either Harry or Draco
who, relatively speaking are rich by comparison. 

So, the real problem in not that the Weasleys seem poor, but that they
are not rich and therefore able to endulge every extravagant whim of
their children. From a moral and ethical perspective, that is, from
the perspective of building healthy, humain, ethical children, it is
better to be slightly poor than to be extravagantly rich. 

Just one man's perspective.

Steve/bboyminn







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 20:12:17 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:12:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New interest in TV series, Supernatural and Re: Buying an MP3 Player (Help!)
In-Reply-To: <d3611c19c1a9edb44ebacbbc50bc768e@fandm.edu>
References: <1a2738400607091640o7e9aa333s61a8efb9e234b60c@mail.gmail.com>
	 <d3611c19c1a9edb44ebacbbc50bc768e@fandm.edu>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607111312n22cefdc5i398eecd86a913ff1@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/11/06, Laura Ingalls Huntley <lhuntley at fandm.edu> wrote:

> > The above is a Creative Zen 20gig multimedia. <SNIP>
>
> Thanks Dina!  That is indeed a very good deal.  I also found a
> video/mp3 player by Toshiba for $258.00, but, again, I'd have to find a
> way to make it Mac-compatible.

Hm, not familiar with Toshiba's [Gigabeat?] line... Though, I've
heard, friend and local news, Toshiba Satellite laptops are crappy [as
Compaq computers].  Either way, check out user comments and reviews!
{g}  They might have good MP3 players.


> Jensen Whats-his-name is quite pretty.

What's-his-name, indeed. {g}  I think of Jensen Ackles (?) by first
name and Jared Padaleki (?) by last name.  I think it's because Jensen
sounds like it should be a surname... Hm, so an abbreviated version of
his name would be Jen?  Jenny!  Heh.


>  I like Supernatural on
> every-now-and-then basis.  It's a convenient kind of show because the
> individual episodes are fun and engaging even if you don't know the
> back story.

Aye, it's easy to jump into an episode. :-)  I remember Babylon 5 was
a series that spent years on continuing storylines, so not as easy to
get the full 'picture'.


> It also took me awhile to get into Veronica Mars.  The first several
> episodes didn't really grab me -- then later I saw the middle episodes
> and started watching a bit more obsessively, and then by the last six
> or so I somehow morphed into a crazed fan. (Crazed!)

:-)  Inadvertently, the recent season finale for Veronica Mars was my
first episode.  Suppose I may have killed some of the build-up
suspense leading up to betrayal.


> But, I'm pretty prone to obsession, personally, so maybe that's just
> me. ^_~

{chuckle} Know the feeling.  I'm still obsessed over Sorority Boys,
especially Adina... and the movie is *cheesy*.  Thankfully, there's
the internet where folks can share their 'obsessions' with more folk.

Dina



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 01:30:17 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:30:17 -0400
Subject: 'Ultrasonic' ringtones - ouch on my hearing
Message-ID: <1a2738400607111830k15f8c392g44d7a75308d0eef8@mail.gmail.com>

I remember their being some news segment about kids using high-pitched
ringtones to avoid adults hearing their cellphones.

http://www.ultrasonic-ringtones.com/

Gah!  Hurts my ears!  The 17.7kHz is the last one that makes me cringe
because I can barely make out 18.8 on my PC speakers... Heh, certainly
worked on the bugs because a huge breeder (i.e. winged) carpenter ant
dropped within inches of the PC speaker... sonofabitch! {whack}  Dead
now.

As to my age, twenty-eight, so I've retained a good percentage of my
hearing... until those tests. ;-)  Eyesight is another matter.

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 02:50:36 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:50:36 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <e90gol+17pt@eGroups.com>
References: <e90gol+17pt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B4637C.8010705@internode.on.net>


> I think you hit on the answer:  LARGE family!  Plus it doesn't sound 
> like the department Papa Weasley worked in was high priority so 
> maybe it wasn't a high-paying job.  7 kids to outfit and
> for school for 7 years!  For at least 3 of the years we read about 
> they had 
> FIVE kids in school (probably more when Bill & Charlie were in 
> school).  The one piece of canon I can think of is in 
> HBP when Harry & Ron get new potions books and it was something like 
> 9 or 11 Galleons FOR ONE BOOK!  No wonder they were broke!

Yeah but what does a wizarding family pay out in bills?
They don't use electricity or gas or fuel... so unless water
and council rates are high, that only leaves a food bill.

Seven kids wouldn't be too hard to raise without those extras
which we pay for.

Text books are always expensive too.
I bought one for chinese medicine as I did a class in that and the
thing was about $200 aussie [perhaps $170US?]

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 03:07:19 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:07:19 -0000
Subject: 'Ultrasonic' ringtones - ouch on my hearing
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607111830k15f8c392g44d7a75308d0eef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e91p17+j09l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I remember their being some news segment about kids using high-pitched
> ringtones to avoid adults hearing their cellphones.
> 
> http://www.ultrasonic-ringtones.com/
> 
> Gah!  Hurts my ears!  The 17.7kHz is the last one that makes me 
cringe because I can barely make out 18.8 on my PC speakers... Heh, 
certainly worked on the bugs because a huge breeder (i.e. winged) 
carpenter ant dropped within inches of the PC speaker... sonofabitch! 
{whack}  Dead now.
> As to my age, twenty-eight, so I've retained a good percentage of my 
hearing... until those tests. ;-)  Eyesight is another matter.
> 

Tonk:

Good God!!!  As if I were not depressed enough about turning 59 in a 
couple of weeks. (Yes Harry and I have somethink in common.) I could 
only hear the 8k one. But I felt really weird trying the others. I 
think it has some effect on my brain..  probably killed off some cells 
or something.

What is this about some divice that keeps teens from gathering? I don't 
think this stuff is safe.. I mean if it kills bugs...  Can it trigger a 
stroke or heart attacks in the old folks??  I guess I let you know in 
the AM, if I am still here...

Tonks_op






From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 03:07:43 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:07:43 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] 'Ultrasonic' ringtones - ouch on my hearing
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607111830k15f8c392g44d7a75308d0eef8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1a2738400607111830k15f8c392g44d7a75308d0eef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B4677F.8060501@internode.on.net>

Dina Lerret wrote:
> I remember their being some news segment about kids using high-pitched
> ringtones to avoid adults hearing their cellphones.
> 
> http://www.ultrasonic-ringtones.com/
> 
> Gah!  Hurts my ears!  The 17.7kHz is the last one that makes me cringe
> because I can barely make out 18.8 on my PC speakers... Heh, certainly
> worked on the bugs because a huge breeder (i.e. winged) carpenter ant
> dropped within inches of the PC speaker... sonofabitch! {whack}  Dead
> now.
> 
> As to my age, twenty-eight, so I've retained a good percentage of my
> hearing... until those tests. ;-)  Eyesight is another matter.

Dina, I would seriously advise that you don't go to the cinema...
I did some 10 years back "independence day" that UFO movie, came out
with damaged hearing.

This year I saw Narnia with the same result.

Rent DVDs, never see a movie unless you have access to the volume knob.

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 03:18:18 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:18:18 -0000
Subject: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <20060711124803.14422.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e91plq+rdkn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Marita Jan <maritajan at ...> 
wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "Japan website"?  Do you have a URL?
>    

Tonks:
I thought I posted this, but I don't see it. SO here it is again.

http://www.harrypottershop.co.jp/

I want the Snape shirt and the Hogwarts suitcase!!

Tonks_op







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 03:14:34 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:14:34 -0000
Subject: 'Ultrasonic' ringtones - ouch on my hearing
In-Reply-To: <44B4677F.8060501@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e91peq+n9ha@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Dina, I would seriously advise that you don't go to the cinema...
> I did some 10 years back "independence day" that UFO movie, came 
out
> with damaged hearing.
> 
> This year I saw Narnia with the same result.
> 
> Rent DVDs, never see a movie unless you have access to the volume 
knob.
> 

Tonks:
I wear ear plugs at the movies. Why do they have it so loud? Is it 
because all of these young people have blown their hearing with rock 
music?  But if they hear the ring tones???  

Heck I even wear ear plugs in church. Sometimes early in the AM I 
can't handle the high pitched sounds of the organ.

Tonks_op






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 02:51:55 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:51:55 -0000
Subject: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <20060711124803.14422.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e91o4b+o267@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Marita Jan <maritajan at ...> 
wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "Japan website"?  Do you have a URL?
>    


Tonks:

Here it is: you can not buy from them if you live in the U.S. Also it
is written in Japanese, but as the saying goes, a picture is worth a
thousand words. So you can see what they have.

http://www.harrypottershop.co.jp/

Tonks_op









From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 02:54:58 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:54:58 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <e90ua7+8uue@eGroups.com>
References: <e90ua7+8uue@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B46482.9010500@internode.on.net>


> So, the real problem in not that the Weasleys seem poor, but that they
> are not rich and therefore able to endulge every extravagant whim of
> their children. From a moral and ethical perspective, that is, from
> the perspective of building healthy, humain, ethical children, it is
> better to be slightly poor than to be extravagantly rich. 
> 
> Just one man's perspective.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn

Yes, I agree...
It's a matter of relativity.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 02:59:03 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:59:03 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New interest in TV series, Supernatural
 and Re: Buying an MP3 Player (Help!)
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607111312n22cefdc5i398eecd86a913ff1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1a2738400607091640o7e9aa333s61a8efb9e234b60c@mail.gmail.com>	 <d3611c19c1a9edb44ebacbbc50bc768e@fandm.edu> <1a2738400607111312n22cefdc5i398eecd86a913ff1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B46577.3030407@internode.on.net>

Dina Lerret wrote:
> On 7/11/06, Laura Ingalls Huntley <lhuntley at fandm.edu> wrote:
> 
>>> The above is a Creative Zen 20gig multimedia. <SNIP>
>> Thanks Dina!  That is indeed a very good deal.  I also found a
>> video/mp3 player by Toshiba for $258.00, but, again, I'd have to find a
>> way to make it Mac-compatible.
> 
> Hm, not familiar with Toshiba's [Gigabeat?] line... Though, I've
> heard, friend and local news, Toshiba Satellite laptops are crappy [as
> Compaq computers].  Either way, check out user comments and reviews!
> {g}  They might have good MP3 players.

I have heard that too, but have been using a satellite for the last 12
months or so almost exclusively... for internet and recording our free
to air digital & HD television. no probs.

The complaints and groans went like this.

It's too heavy - Of course, look at the size of it

It's too big - but it's got a huge widescreen monitor, what do you expect?

It's too hot - yeah, it's a P4, it's not a palm pilot.

I would be wary of Compaq, they're owned by HP now, which is why
they're awful.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 04:21:43 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:21:43 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: 'Ultrasonic' ringtones - ouch on my hearing
In-Reply-To: <e91peq+n9ha@eGroups.com>
References: <e91peq+n9ha@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B478D7.1050809@internode.on.net>

Tonks wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>>
>> Dina, I would seriously advise that you don't go to the cinema...
>> I did some 10 years back "independence day" that UFO movie, came 
> out
>> with damaged hearing.
>>
>> This year I saw Narnia with the same result.
>>
>> Rent DVDs, never see a movie unless you have access to the volume 
> knob.
> 
> Tonks:
> I wear ear plugs at the movies. Why do they have it so loud? Is it 
> because all of these young people have blown their hearing with rock 
> music?  But if they hear the ring tones???  
> 
> Heck I even wear ear plugs in church. Sometimes early in the AM I 
> can't handle the high pitched sounds of the organ.
> 
> Tonks_op

There was a time I could just about make out a dog whistle, I was very
proud of that. never went to a concert incase it hurt my ears, but never
considered the movies being so bad.

The thing is with the cinema is it suckers you too, you sit and think
that it's a movie, therefore there's bound to be a quiet bit, and I
found that I had "rabbit in the headlights" syndrome... I wanted to 
leave several times but for some reason i couldn't.

I find that is true about sensitivity in the mornings, sometimes my
mothers voice sort of makes my inner ear vibrate in a weird way, but
later it's fine.

Wolfie!



From phil at pcsgames.net  Wed Jul 12 13:37:59 2006
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:37:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
References: <e91o4b+o267@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00f101c6a5b8$6b542540$6600a8c0@phil>

Japan Harry Potter shop
http://www.harrypottershop.co.jp
Google Translated versions of the text of 50 web site pages:
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Stick of magic ([bikutoru] cram)
Commodity number: FOA-TY002
Substance price 2,625 (tax removal price \ 2,500)
It is the stick which the [bikutoru] cram "of the goblet of Halley [potsuta] and the flame" has used.
Size: 
Length 36cm* width 5.5cm
Material: 
Poly- resin (wire entering)

product_id/1274 
Stick of magic (CEDRIC [deigori])
Commodity number
FOA-TY003
Substance price
 2,625 (tax removal price \ 2,500)
It is the stick which CEDRIC [deigori] "of the goblet of Halley [potsuta] and the flame" has used.
Size:
Length 39.5cm* width 1.5cm
Material:
Poly- resin (wire entering)

product_id/1320 
Towel muffler (Ireland)
Commodity number
FOA-SZ004
Substance price
1,050 (tax removal price \ 1,000)
It is the towel muffler which the shape of the final participation Irish of [kuideitsuchiwarudokatsupu] does support flag.
(There are times when time it is required for a while to the delivery)
Size:
Vertical 21* side 120cm

product_id/590
Stick replica of PoA [rushiusu]
Commodity number
QOA-TY005
Substance price
\ 8,400 (tax removal price \ 8,000)
The father of [dorako], it is stick replica of [rushiusumaruhuoi]. They are 500 these limitation productions and the serial number being attached commodity.
It is forum replica, you train and it is not the stick.

You point to the restriction sale of number. Depending upon the quantity of purchase entire main, when purchase notice you can point, because it is, acknowledgment.
In addition, the lapping becomes the sufficient style which winds the packing paper around the case of the commodity. Acknowledgment.
Size:
95cm*14cm*14cm

product_id/1248
Goblet of flame mini-
Commodity number
GIK-AC002
Substance price
\ 5,800 (tax removal price \ 5,524)
It is the mini- figure of the goblet of the flame "of the goblet of Halley [potsuta] and the flame".
Immediately, we can deliver!
Size:
Substance: Side 3* depth 3* height 7.7cm stand: Side 7* depth 7* height 2.5cm
Material:
Substance: Brass stand: Plastic

product_id/1249 
Goblet & golden egg set
Commodity number
GIK-AC003
Substance price
\ 10,000 (tax removal price \ 9,524)
The pendant of the golden egg "of the goblet of Halley [potsuta] and the flame" and the mini- figure of the goblet of the flame in the dressing case have
become set.
Immediately, we can deliver
Size:
Dressing case: Side 16* depth 16* height 10.1cm
Pendant head: Side 1.8* depth 1.8* height 3cm chain: 50cm
Goblet: Side 3* depth 3* height 7.7cm stand: Side 7* depth 7* height 2.5cm
Material:
Pendant; Brass [shieruparugoburetsuto]: Brass (as for stand plastic) box: Wood

product_id/1247 
Pendant golden egg
Commodity number
GIK-AC001
Substance price
\ 5,800 (tax removal price \ 5,524)
It is the mini- replica being attached pendant of the golden egg "of the goblet of Halley [potsuta] and the flame". When the knob is pulled, the shell opening,
the shell pearl comes out of in.
Immediately, we can deliver
Size:
Substance: Side 1.8* depth 1.8* height 3cm chain: 50cm
Material:
Brass [shieruparu]

product_id/1334 
Sticker (goblet of Halley [potsuta] and flame) 1BOX
Commodity number
GIR-ET002
Substance price
\ 8,400 (tax removal price \ 8,000)
It is set of the sticker where photograph and illustration such as character and scene etc of the movie were designed. 50 it has entered into 1BOX.
Material:
Paper

product_id/565
Prisoner of [santora] 'Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban]'
Commodity number
HWB-DV003
Substance price
\ 2,520 (tax removal price \ 2,400)
The prisoner of [santora] 'Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban]' is.
It depends on John Williams, in original sound track "of the prisoner of Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban]", successive generations DOTDT Halley [potsuta]
" the [santora] jacket & logographic sticker enclosure.
This [santora] is CD extra specification. Luxurious contents recording such as specially made wallpaper specially made screen saver photo gallery

Note: Commodity number in "store private number of magical errand", [wa] - [na] - differs from music Japan standard number.
Item turn: WPCR-11836
Merely now it is absence of stock.

product_id/214
Lobe (griffin doll)
Commodity number
ASC-AL005
Substance price
\ 30,000 (tax removal price \ 28,571)
It is the uniform lobe of emblem attachment and [hoguwatsu] of the griffin doll.

Note: This commodity is the commodity only of the lobe. The necktie and the shirt & the pants & the sweater etc of the picture have not belonged. In addition,

Size:
140
160
Total length
102.5
117
Body width
39
47

Material:
Wool 100%

Desired size (color) please push the button.

product_id/317
Web [orijinarusunitsuchisamaseta] 
Commodity number
OOA-AL014
Substance price
\ 6,300 (tax removal price \ 6,000)
It is the summer sweater of the cotton where [sunitsuchi] enters into Web original front design.

Size:
S
M
Total length
53
58
Body width
41
49
table end

It is the commodity which one one hand has done to knit this commodity entirely. Because there are times when some gap occurs in size please acknowledge.
Material:
Cotton 100%

Desired size (color) please push the button.

product_id/362
[hukurou] flight
Commodity number
OOA-GR002
Substance price
\ 1,207 (tax removal price \ 1,150)
[metsusejihukurou] carries message, it is "store original service of magical errand". Desired composition to [metsusejihukurou] and a set, the lapping doing
lovely, we deliver.

As for message it can input the occasion where you apply. As for details
in addition to you read the note writing well, order.
Note: As for this commodity it cannot designate the application at two or more as one time. Because either it is not possible to choose the color of [hukurou],
acknowledgment.
Note: Because you cannot receive the appointment of the [chi] in day, please acknowledge. Because the gift lapping is done, it is not necessary for you
to apply. ([hukurou] we applying the lapping to flight, because it cannot repay, please note)

product_id/819
Pastel collection plate (Christmas)
Commodity number
RMC-SZ005
Substance price
\ 21,000 (tax removal price \ 20,000)
The scene which appears in the world of Halley [potsuta] is printed in the base, it is the serial entering collection plate of the limitation 300 to which
everything politely Halley private pattern is administered to back. Serial number has entered into the base.
Because as for the product in all Japan make because of hand made, you deliver from those which it produces completes, there are also times when it receives
your some time. It is start of dispatch of beginning of March time.

product_id/236
"Book type note of monster monster"
Commodity number
ASC-ST001
Substance price
\ 2,800 (tax removal price \ 2,667)
It is the note which does "the shape of the book of the monster monster". That it is not bitten, you note!?

Note: There are times when there is a round mark in the back cover of the commodity, but being something which it is possible with production process, because
it is not defective, acknowledgment.
Size:
Vertical 19cm? side 17.5cm? width 4cm
Material:
Surface acrylic

product_id/1638
[minibasutohamaioni] [gurenjiya]
Commodity number
HBL-TY010
Substance price
\ 7,900 (tax removal price \ 7,524)
It is the mini- bust figure of [hamaioni]. The form of one scene "of the prisoner of Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban]" was copied faithfully.

This commodity is the reservation commodity. Because around November you deliver, the commodity other than HBL-TY009 [minibasutohuigiyuaron] [uizuri] and
it is not produced to purchase together,
Material:
Material: Poly- resin

product_id/577
Book of [minipochi] monster monster/umber
Commodity number
QOA-FA009
Substance price
\ 1,575 (tax removal price \ 1,500)
It is the mini- porch of the book of the monster monster. It is convenient size to also carrying.
Size:
When length 11.5cm (it expands, 24cm) ## side 13.5cm? width 2cm

product_id/340
Web [orijinarusunitsuchiseta] 
Commodity number
OOA-AL021
Substance price
\ 7,350 (tax removal price \ 7,000)
It is the sweater of the cotton where [sunitsuchi] enters into Web original front design.

Size:

S
M
Total length
53
58
Body width
41
49


It is the commodity which one one hand has done to knit this commodity entirely. Because there are times when some gap occurs in size please acknowledge.
Material:
Cotton 100%
Desired size (color) please push the button.

product_id/217
Lobe ([surizarin])
Commodity number
ASC-AL006
Substance price
\ 30,000 (tax removal price \ 28,571)
It is the uniform lobe of emblem attachment and [hoguwatsu] of [surizarin].

Note: This commodity is the commodity only of the lobe. The necktie and the shirt & the pants & the sweater etc of the picture have not belonged. In addition,

Size:

140
160
Total length
102.5
117
Body width
39
47

Material:
Wool 100%

Desired size (color) please push the button.

product_id/817
Pastel collection cup & sourcer ([kuideitsuchi])
Commodity number
RMC-SZ003
Substance price
\ 15,750 (tax removal price \ 15,000)
The scene which appears in the world of Halley [potsuta] is printed in the base, it is the serial entering cup & the sourcer of the limitation 300 to which
everything politely Halley private pattern is administered to back. Serial number has entered into the base.
Because as for the product in all Japan make because of hand made, you deliver from those which it produces completes, there are also times when it receives
your some time. It is start of dispatch of beginning of March time.

product_id/396
Room of GAME Halley [potsuta] and secret (PC)
Commodity number
HEA-VG007
Substance price
\ 3,129 (tax removal price \ 2,980)
It is the action game software "of the room of Halley [potsuta] and secret". From the second work which the appearance impression increases the mini- game
is full.

This commodity is for the personal computer. In order you make a mistake not to be, please pay attention.
Recommendation hardware requirement

OS:
Windows XP/ME/2000/98
CPU:
Above Pentium ? 500MHz
Memory:
Above 128MB
Sound:
Above 16-bit which has compatibility in DirectX 8.0
Video:
Above VRAM 8MB which corresponds after the DirectX 8.0
DirectX:
Above DirectX8.0a
CD-ROM:
8 time speeds or more
Input device:
Mouse keyboard


Merely now it is absence of stock.

product_id/1326
Log 2006
Commodity number
GKE-ST003
Substance price
\ 1,260 (tax removal price \ 1,200)
It is the log which designed the scene and the like of the movie of Halley [potsuta]. You can use from January 2006 to 2006 December. Classified by month
and scheduling it is possible classified by week, can use the adult and the child in the cover of reversible. The delivery of this commodity is schedule
of the earlier November late from October. When the general commodity it becomes simultaneously the purchase, because the delivery of all commodities,
becomes simultaneous with this reservation commodity, note.
Size:
Library size
Material:
Paper (vinyl case entering)

product_id/73
Prisoner of GAME Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban] (PC)
Commodity number
HEA-VG017
Substance price
\ 8,295 (tax removal price \ 7,900)
It is the action game software "of the prisoner of Halley [potsuta] and [azugaban]". In addition to main part pleasure fullest capacity. It is designed
in such a way that it can operate Halley, remaining overnight and [hamaioni].

Merely now it is absence of stock.

product_id/510
For glove griffin doll dark blue adult
Commodity number
PMM-FA016-L
Substance price
\ 3,465 (tax removal price \ 3,300)
Because there is also a size for the child, with the parent and child you can do even with pair. It is cobalt of soft image.
Size:
Length 21? width 8.5 cm
Material:
Wool 80% nylon 20%

product_id/290
[huokusukahusu] & pin brooch set
Commodity number
OOA-AC009
Substance price
\ 5,145 (tax removal price \ 4,900)
It is set of the cuffs and the pin brooch of [huokusu]. With the couple you attaching with pair, it is cute.
Size:
Cuffs: 2*1.5cm pin: 7.5*2cm
Material:
Cuffs: Brass pin: Brass

product_id/1295
Paper clock (hundred taste [binzu])
Commodity number
FOA-SZ002
Substance price
\ 630 (tax removal price \ 600)
It is the clock which enters into the package of hundred taste [binzu].
Size:
Height 15* side 6.5* depth 6.5cm
Material:
Paper (clock part metal)

product_id/162
PoA [nekutaihatsuhurupahu] 
Commodity number
AMM-FA003
Substance price
\ 6,300 (tax removal price \ 6,000)
It is the necktie like the uniform of [hatsuhurupahu].
Size:
Length 72cm? side 9cm (the most it is thick part)
Material:
Cotton 100%

product_id/381
Figure Halley [mitsu] dobby
Commodity number
PBR-TY002
Substance price
\ 2,625 (tax removal price \ 2,500)
It is the figure of the dobby which is in the Halley room.
Size:
Side 10.5? height 10? width 10.5cm
Material:
Poly- resin

product_id/568
[korekushiyonbotsukusu] broom
Commodity number
QOA-ET003
Substance price
\ 4,725 (tax removal price \ 4,500)
It is the miniature collection of the broom which is used for the practice which you use with the tournament of [kuideitsuchi], fly.
Size:
Vertical 30cm? side 23cm? depth 5cm

product_id/401
GAME [kuideitsuchiwarudokatsupu] (PS2)
Commodity number
HEA-VG012
Substance price
\ 6,090 (tax removal price \ 5,800)
It is the game which can do the worldwide conference of popularity sport "post ditch" in the Halley world. In the tournament of [hoguwatsu] and, you will
have enough the post ditch in the world cup!

This commodity is for play station 2. In order you make a mistake not to be, please pay attention.

product_id/420
[hedouiguringu] 
Commodity number
PIK-AC014
Substance price
\ 8,400 (tax removal price \ 8,000)
The face of [hedouigu] has become sill burring. It is the unique ring which attracts the attention. Please choose from three size of 9, 13 and 17.

Because as for this commodity order receiving after we produce, time about of 3 weeks is required to for the delivery. Because we have not received the
cancellation returns, please acknowledge.
When other ones and it becomes together the purchase, because also that commodity becomes the simultaneous delivery, note.
Size:
Three size width of #9, #13 and #17: 1.2cm
Material:
Silver

product_id/579
Clear file (three uniting types)
Commodity number
QOA-ST002
Substance price
\ 525 (tax removal price \ 500)
It is the clear file where the Halley illustration which plays [kuideitsuchi] was designed. The side pocket being attached, it is convenient to three uniting
and filing.
There is a possibility time being required a little to the delivery.
Size:
Vertical 31cmx side 22cm

product_id/567
[korekushiyonbotsukusu] [hanideyukusu]
Commodity number
QOA-ET002
Substance price
\ 4,725 (tax removal price \ 4,500)
Confectionary of [hoguzumido], it is the collection box of the candy of [hanideyukusu]. Sweet smell drifting, you rival.
Size:
Vertical 30cm? side 23cm? depth 5cm

product_id/240
Clearing file set
Commodity number
ASC-ST005
Substance price
\ 600 (tax removal price \ 571)
It is the poster of the Sirius and set of the clear file where [kuideitsuchishin] was designed. The poster of the Sirius has become [chienjingu].
Size:
A4 size

product_id/1603
PoA necktie griffin doll
Commodity number
AMM-FA021
Substance price
\ 6,300 (tax removal price \ 6,000)
It is the necktie like the uniform of the griffin doll.
Size:
Length 72cm? side 9cm (the most it is thick part)
Material:
Cotton 100%

Merely now it is absence of stock.

product_id/18
PoA papercraft knight bus
Commodity number
ABB-ET002
Substance price
\ 1,995 (tax removal price \ 1,900)
Cutting off with the cut-off line, when it assembles, in the knight bus. Halley has been attached.
Material:
Paper

product_id/376
[daisazusutatasetsuto]
Commodity number
PBD-TY003
Substance price
\ 1,890 (tax removal price \ 1,800)
It is the game where contents of scene become the character of Halley [potsuta]. As for scene at all 54 types. Also the rule instruction manual of the game
has entered into the starter set which enters with 6 kind [asoto].
Size:
Package: 20?25 dies 2.5?2.5cm
Material:
Plastic

product_id/1335
Sticker album (goblet of Halley [potsuta] and flame)
Commodity number
GIR-ET003
Substance price
\ 683 (tax removal price \ 650)
It is the album stock doing the sticker.
Material:
Paper


product_id/538
[surizarin] purse
Commodity number
PSN-FA014
Substance price
\ 630 (tax removal price \ 600)
In green of [surizarinkara], it is the purse where dormitory chapter is printed. The reverse side the crest of [hoguwatsu] is printed.
Size:
22?18cm
Material:
Cotton 100%


product_id/72
Prisoner of GAME Halley [potsuta] and [azukaban] (Gameboy advance)
Commodity number
HEA-VG016
Substance price
\ 5,040 (tax removal price \ 4,800)
Adjusting to the release "of the prisoner of Halley [potsuta] and [azugaban]," it is the action game software which appears. It is designed in such a way
that it can operate Halley, remaining overnight and [hamaioni].

Merely now it is absence of stock.

product_id/489
[pinzudobi]  
Commodity number
PMM-AC003
Substance price
\ 2,940 (tax removal price \ 2,800)
The residence it does and it is [pinzu] where the [be] fairy dobby is lovely.
Size:
2?1 cm
Material:
Brass




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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 12 15:19:54 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:19:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <00f101c6a5b8$6b542540$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Hmm--interesting!

This is gonna take me some time to decipher. <Grin>

However, now I really feel like I wish I had the ability to apparate to
Japan, buy up the lot and bring it back here.

Cheers,

Lee :-)




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 15:47:10 2006
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RSS/XML feeds
In-Reply-To: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <20060712154710.54691.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think I've joined the 21st century and actually have one of those 360 page thingys on Yahoo.  
   
  Does anyone know of any HP-related sites that work with the RSS/XML feeds?   I didn't see links on Mugglenet or Leaky.
   
   
  Thanks!
   
  MJ


 		
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 15:45:57 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:45:57 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44B51935.2090209@internode.on.net>

(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> Hmm--interesting!
> 
> This is gonna take me some time to decipher. <Grin>
> 
> However, now I really feel like I wish I had the ability to apparate to
> Japan, buy up the lot and bring it back here.

Does anyone remember "The Tomorrow People"?
An old British kids show, where they had the ability to "Jaunt"
which was the same as apparation but they couldn't go very far
unless they wore a sort of amplifier on their belts?

Sometimes I wonder if that's where JKR got the idea.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 16:05:18 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:05:18 +1000
Subject: science meets hogwarts
Message-ID: <44B51DBE.1020408@internode.on.net>

http://crypticconspiracies.com/news.php?extend.43

Wolfie!



From heidi8 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 18:05:14 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:05:14 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RSS/XML feeds
In-Reply-To: <20060712154710.54691.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>
	 <20060712154710.54691.qmail@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5913e6f80607121105l7fdd8581m5a7a2d36290a9cb0@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/06, Marita Jan <maritajan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think I've joined the 21st century and actually have one of those 360 page thingys on Yahoo.
>
>   Does anyone know of any HP-related sites that work with the RSS/XML feeds?   I didn't see links on Mugglenet or Leaky.
>

There is actually an RSS of the news at Leaky Caulron - you can
subscribe to it via
http://www.thefeeddirectory.com/p/Feed-Viewer-The-Leaky-Cauldron___218,,,9290.html

HPANA also does some great work in RSS - their main feed is via
http://www.hpana.com/rss.cfm but on the front page of their website
(http://www.hpana.com) you can click on the little orange box on the
top and see their feed options as well.

And FictionAlley has a few hundred feeds which list recent uploads of
fanfics - you can select by genre, by character, by ship or by era, or
you can get all the fics uploaded. The list of all fics is via
http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/ChapterOwls/rss or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=rss and the
ships/genres/characters one is at
http://www.fictionalley.org/RSSLinks.html - it links to things like
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_percy or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_snape or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_hr or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=eras_harry_and_classmates_post_hogwarts
or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=genres_essay or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=ships_bella_vold - we have them
for pretty much everything.

Heidi



From heidi8 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 16:49:45 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:49:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <44B51935.2090209@internode.on.net>
References: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie> <44B51935.2090209@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1152722999.25B7FEE7@bd12.dngr.org>


On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:02 pm, Wolfie! wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember "The Tomorrow People"?
> An old British kids show, where they had the ability to "Jaunt"
> which was the same as apparation but they couldn't go very far
> unless they wore a sort of amplifier on their belts?
>
> Sometimes I wonder if that's where JKR got the idea.

I wondered the same thing, but then again, the concept does show up in 
other places (but imho nowhere is it quite as similar, and jkr was the 
right age in the 70s to watch the show).

In the US it was on Nickelodeon back in 1981-83, then they did a 
mediocre remake in the early 90s. The original series had random 
appearances from David Prowse, pre-Darth, and Peter Davidson, pre-Who, 
in a v funny role, and wig!

Heidi



From maritajan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 19:08:49 2006
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (Marita Jan)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RSS/XML feeds
In-Reply-To: <5913e6f80607121105l7fdd8581m5a7a2d36290a9cb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060712190849.12805.qmail@web36812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks!  I was looking for the little orange "XML" box and when it didn't jump off the screen at me on Leaky, I just assumed there wasn't one.  :)
   
  Thanks for the tips!
   
  MJ

Heidi <heidi8 at gmail.com> wrote:
          On 7/12/06, Marita Jan <maritajan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think I've joined the 21st century and actually have one of those 360 page thingys on Yahoo.
>
> Does anyone know of any HP-related sites that work with the RSS/XML feeds? I didn't see links on Mugglenet or Leaky.
>

There is actually an RSS of the news at Leaky Caulron - you can
subscribe to it via
http://www.thefeeddirectory.com/p/Feed-Viewer-The-Leaky-Cauldron___218,,,9290.html

HPANA also does some great work in RSS - their main feed is via
http://www.hpana.com/rss.cfm but on the front page of their website
(http://www.hpana.com) you can click on the little orange box on the
top and see their feed options as well.

And FictionAlley has a few hundred feeds which list recent uploads of
fanfics - you can select by genre, by character, by ship or by era, or
you can get all the fics uploaded. The list of all fics is via
http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/ChapterOwls/rss or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=rss and the
ships/genres/characters one is at
http://www.fictionalley.org/RSSLinks.html - it links to things like
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_percy or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_snape or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=characters_hr or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=eras_harry_and_classmates_post_hogwarts
or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=genres_essay or
http://www.fictionalley.org/rss/?feed=ships_bella_vold - we have them
for pretty much everything.

Heidi


         

 		
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From ssteplana at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 12 23:23:37 2006
From: ssteplana at yahoo.com (Svetlana)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:23:37 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Please_take_=93Online_Community:_Member_Satisfaction=94_Survey!?=
Message-ID: <e9409p+nfqh@eGroups.com>


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From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jul 13 09:23:19 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:23:19 +1000
Subject: Clothing
Message-ID: <44B61107.6080703@internode.on.net>

What I have done is found a gothic forum, which lucky for me
is Melbourne based.

And I have asked about clothing which looks like clothing
worn in the world of Harry Potter [except his pre-Hogwarts
bit, I'm sure k-mart would cover that].

Now, although you can't post unless you join... you can
at least follow the thread on:

http://www.gothic.org.au/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6470&page=53#pid308709

Now, this *might* lead somewhere,
there are gothic shops in Melbourne where I can go,
and potentially meet some of the people who might suggest options.

So, we shall see.

Wolfie!



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jul 13 09:48:51 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:48:51 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <44B51935.2090209@internode.on.net>
References: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44B6A3A3.22190.38D0AE@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

On 13 Jul 2006 at 1:45, Wolfie! wrote:

> Does anyone remember "The Tomorrow People"?
> An old British kids show, where they had the ability to "Jaunt"
> which was the same as apparation but they couldn't go very far
> unless they wore a sort of amplifier on their belts?
> 
> Sometimes I wonder if that's where JKR got the idea.

Check the URL in my sig to see how well I remember 'The Tomorrow People'.

The 'jaunting belts' (later 'jaunting bands') actually seem to be more associated with 
navigation rather than power - the show was a bit ambiguous on exactly how they worked.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia





From HumWolf at aol.com  Thu Jul 13 01:30:50 2006
From: HumWolf at aol.com (myblueprius)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:30:50 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e8v3vb+abh7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e947oa+5b3m@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
> <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> > online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> > would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
> > 
> > Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
> > afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys


I would recommend no other computer but a Mac. After working with PC's at school (I'm a 
teacher), it is such a pleasure to use a computer that doesn't give me a single problem, either 
with hardware or software. My duaghter's bf was a pc user(Mac are for babies), once he used 
her Mac iBook he was converted. Now he has a G5 desktop and one of the new MacBooks 
(Intel). He swears he will never go back.

Donna









From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jul 13 10:53:48 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:53:48 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <44B6A3A3.22190.38D0AE@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
References: <000601c6a5c6$a1418090$65a4a8c0@rosie> <44B6A3A3.22190.38D0AE@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
Message-ID: <44B6263C.4050604@internode.on.net>

Shaun Hately wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2006 at 1:45, Wolfie! wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone remember "The Tomorrow People"?
>> An old British kids show, where they had the ability to "Jaunt"
>> which was the same as apparation but they couldn't go very far
>> unless they wore a sort of amplifier on their belts?
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if that's where JKR got the idea.
> 
> Check the URL in my sig to see how well I remember 'The Tomorrow People'.
> 
> The 'jaunting belts' (later 'jaunting bands') actually seem to be more associated with 
> navigation rather than power - the show was a bit ambiguous on exactly how they worked.

I remember what happened when they didn't wear them.

Young tomorrow people who accidentally jaunted would end up in a sort of
pretty coloured swirling void, and their bodies would slowly dissolve 
away unless someone saved them.

If the older ones tried jaunting too far, they could end up in the same
place.

The belt enabled them to go a lot further.

An experienced tomorrow person could usually jaunt between rooms in a 
house with ease, but too far meant a certain risk.

I think they even had much more powerful belts to get them even 
further... like overseas.

When I was a lad, I wished I could do all that stuff.

BTW: I'm in west footscray, so close, eh? ;)

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 15:03:32 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:03:32 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e947oa+5b3m@eGroups.com>
References: <e8v3vb+abh7@eGroups.com> <e947oa+5b3m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607130803k1897557fmaae3c5b9b6981d27@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/06, myblueprius <HumWolf at aol.com> wrote:

> I would recommend no other computer but a Mac. After working with PC's at school

Aye, I remember almost all computers were Macs at school back in the
1980-90s... probably because of Apple's education program for
discounted machines.  However, I wouldn't buy a Mac because of the
price range.  For example, I saw the superdrive refund from MacMall on
my boss's card and it was $100+--I packaged and mailed the return and
it was just one drive.  Now, I can get a very good NEC CD/DVD burner
for less than $40... Newegg had a recent deal where the drive dropped
around $35, including shipping.

While I understand the lower price is because of mass production and
the rather circular effect of folk buying more PCs as a result of the
price, I also have to think of what's in my budget because I dislike
debt, especially when it's unnecessary.  Just my .02 since I don't
need to buy a computer and this is Carol's choice.  If you have the
money, go for it!

The three office computers here are Macs because my boss likes them
and has the money (or he thinks he does - he's a couple years older
than I am).  Frankly, after working on an eMac G4 for a year and a
half (and a couple other higher end Macs), I'm not impressed enough to
warrant paying 2-3x more, aside from the machine looking 'sleek'.
Software specific to Mac only and that I'd *really* like to use would
probably be the only reason for me to get a Mac.

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jul 12 14:23:17 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:23:17 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP toys
In-Reply-To: <00f101c6a5b8$6b542540$6600a8c0@phil>
References: <e91o4b+o267@eGroups.com> <00f101c6a5b8$6b542540$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <44B505D5.2080507@internode.on.net>

Might be fun to get a japanese copy of the books and google translate
the lot :)

http://www.thejapanesearecrazy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=28

try this

Wolfie!






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 14 05:56:24 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 05:56:24 -0000
Subject: Wizard history in Scotland
Message-ID: <e97bm8+clkk@eGroups.com>

I was just looking at different newspaper on the net to see different 
views of the situation in the middle-east and stumbled upon this 
interesting story in the Scotish newspaper about a local wizard. I 
guess the area was full of them at one time. Maybe Rowlings knows more 
than we think she does.

http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=1016562006

Tonks_op






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 14 06:12:15 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 06:12:15 -0000
Subject: More stories about Witches in Scotland
Message-ID: <e97cjv+8h45@eGroups.com>

WoW... there is a whole bunch of interesting Witch reading here. I 
guess maybe Hogwarts is in Scotland!!

http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=2149692005

look at other topics under they myth and mysteries section.  

very interesting.  

Tonks_op
who needs to go to sleep and stop reading online newspapers in the 
middle of the night!






From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jul 14 07:40:37 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:40:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wizard history in Scotland
In-Reply-To: <e97bm8+clkk@eGroups.com>
References: <e97bm8+clkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B74A75.9070205@internode.on.net>

Tonks wrote:
> I was just looking at different newspaper on the net to see different 
> views of the situation in the middle-east and stumbled upon this 
> interesting story in the Scotish newspaper about a local wizard. I 
> guess the area was full of them at one time. Maybe Rowlings knows more 
> than we think she does.
> 
> http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=1016562006

There is a rather strange fellow in New Zealand who wears Wizard robes
and turns up at openings and things to "bless" matters of the day.

And there's one here in Melbourne who dresses in the full gear and
roams around the town laughing and spreading cheer, I like him, I'd
like to be like him when I'm that old.

Wolfie!



From harryp at stararcher.com  Sat Jul 15 00:26:19 2006
From: harryp at stararcher.com (ecaplan_52556)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:26:19 -0000
Subject: New HP readers in your life?
Message-ID: <e99cnc+rjpm@eGroups.com>

I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives who are
just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?

Do you read the books to him/her/them?

Do you stand around anxiously while they read to themselves?

Just curious...

Eddie








From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 02:18:58 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:18:58 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99cnc+rjpm@eGroups.com>
References: <e99cnc+rjpm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B85092.3050907@internode.on.net>

ecaplan_52556 wrote:
> I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives who are
> just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?
> 
> Do you read the books to him/her/them?

I did, but then I ate them

Wolfie!



From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 15 02:20:26 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99cnc+rjpm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060715022026.53362.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com>

My niece of 6.5 just finished HBP.  She's still black and white (concrete) and doesn't want to hear that Snape is good.  I can't til she reads the 7th book and discovers that her uncle is right, again. 
   
  Kemper, wanting the book to come out before abstract thinking kicks in... cause that would be too long
   
  

ecaplan_52556 <harryp at stararcher.com> wrote:
          I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives who are
just beginning to read Harry Potter? Child? Niece? Nephew?

Do you read the books to him/her/them?

Do you stand around anxiously while they read to themselves?

Just curious...

Eddie



         

 		
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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 15 05:32:40 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:32:40 -0000
Subject: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <44B85092.3050907@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e99ulo+p335@eGroups.com>

> ecaplan_52556 wrote:
> > I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives 
who are just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?
> > 
> > Do you read the books to him/her/them?
> 

Wolfie:
> I did, but then I ate them
 
 
Tonks:

Wolfie! No, No!!  You are not suppose to eat your relatives. 
Strangers maybe. A Muggle or two. But not your nieces and nephews!!  
Bad Wolfie, bad!!

Tonks_op









From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 15 05:29:22 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:29:22 -0000
Subject: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99cnc+rjpm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e99ufi+d2di@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "ecaplan_52556" <harryp at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives who 
are
> just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?
> 
> Do you read the books to him/her/them?
> 
> Do you stand around anxiously while they read to themselves?
> 

Tonks:

I do not have children, but I have heard it said that it is good for 
young children to have the HP(or any) books read to them. It helps 
them appreciate reading to have that bond with someone who is 
reading. I would guess if they were older, say 10 or above they 
would read it themselves. Some parents of younger children have 
changed the reading a bit when they got to the really bad parts, or 
not read them late at night.

Also I know from listening to the CD of the books that it is nice to 
hear someone reading the book instead of reading it yourself. 

I know a woman who read all of the HP books to an elderly woman who 
had gone blind. What a real treasure for the elderly woman to have 
that special time with someone every week. And the reader found it 
special as well.

Tonks_op








From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 05:41:57 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:41:57 +1000
Subject: Dragonslayer - The movie
Message-ID: <44B88025.7030200@internode.on.net>

A lovely little download for all you fantasy lovers.
http://www.dragonslayer-themovie.com/

Wolfie!



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 15 06:50:23 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:50:23 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99ulo+p335@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6a7da$f2946b40$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[ecaplan_52556 wrote]:
| > > I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives 
| who are just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?
| > > 
| > > Do you read the books to him/her/them?

[Wolfie responded]:
| > I did, but then I ate them

Tonks gasps]:
| Wolfie! No, No!!  You are not suppose to eat your relatives. 
| Strangers maybe. A Muggle or two. But not your nieces and nephews!!  
| Bad Wolfie, bad!!

[Lee]:
Hmm--to steal a quote from "It's A Good Life," a Jerome Bixby short story
turned into a Twilight Zone ep:
You're a bad wolf!  You're a very bad wolf!
<Poof!!!...Lee sends him into the corn field...Wicked Grin!>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 07:59:17 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:59:17 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99ufi+d2di@eGroups.com>
References: <e99ufi+d2di@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B8A055.8030907@internode.on.net>


> I know a woman who read all of the HP books to an elderly woman who 
> had gone blind. What a real treasure for the elderly woman to have 
> that special time with someone every week. And the reader found it 
> special as well.
> 
> Tonks_op

Have you had that thing where you've read maybe 12 books of a series
[sometimes only a few will do it though] and sddenly there's no more
and you have withdrawel symptoms.

It's almost like someone cutting off the internet for good and 
seperating you from all your friends. :/

It's a really rotten feeling.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 07:59:56 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:59:56 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <e99ulo+p335@eGroups.com>
References: <e99ulo+p335@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B8A07C.3000004@internode.on.net>

Tonks wrote:
>> ecaplan_52556 wrote:
>>> I'm wondering if anybody here has young people in their lives 
> who are just beginning to read Harry Potter?  Child?  Niece?  Nephew?
>>> Do you read the books to him/her/them?
> 
> Wolfie:
>> I did, but then I ate them
>  
>  
> Tonks:
> 
> Wolfie! No, No!!  You are not suppose to eat your relatives. 
> Strangers maybe. A Muggle or two. But not your nieces and nephews!!  
> Bad Wolfie, bad!!
> 
> Tonks_op

It's ok, I only eat hufflepuffs.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 08:01:28 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:01:28 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New HP readers in your life?
In-Reply-To: <000601c6a7da$f2946b40$65a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <000601c6a7da$f2946b40$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44B8A0D8.4000005@internode.on.net>


> [Wolfie responded]:
> | > I did, but then I ate them
> 
> Tonks gasps]:
> | Wolfie! No, No!!  You are not suppose to eat your relatives. 
> | Strangers maybe. A Muggle or two. But not your nieces and nephews!!  
> | Bad Wolfie, bad!!
> 
> [Lee]:
> Hmm--to steal a quote from "It's A Good Life," a Jerome Bixby short story
> turned into a Twilight Zone ep:
> You're a bad wolf!  You're a very bad wolf!
> <Poof!!!...Lee sends him into the corn field...Wicked Grin!>

mmm, and there's this other story where the dragon says:
"well I wouldn't eat them if they weren't made of meat".

Wolfie!



From demeter at jimmycat.com  Sat Jul 15 02:26:55 2006
From: demeter at jimmycat.com (lydiaccc)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:26:55 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
Message-ID: <e99jpf+vhej@eGroups.com>

Does anyone here know of any lists of conventions and their dates?  I
was thinking of going to Lumos, but I figured out it would cost me
about $1500 to go.  I don't have that kind of money to throw around. 
Does anyone know of any other conventions coming up?  Or maybe next year?








From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 15 12:06:16 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:06:16 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
In-Reply-To: <e99jpf+vhej@eGroups.com>
References: <e99jpf+vhej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1152965179.82C2886@dg12.dngr.org>


On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 3:40 am, lydiaccc wrote:
> Does anyone here know of any lists of conventions and their dates?  I
> was thinking of going to Lumos, but I figured out it would cost me
> about $1500 to go.  I don't have that kind of money to throw around.
> Does anyone know of any other conventions coming up?  Or maybe next 
> year?

Lumos is it for this year in terms of larger events - Patronus took 
place in Europe last week, iirc. Lumos is sold out, too, but you can 
still buy tickets from people who can no longer go via the message 
boards at http://www.lumos2006.org.

Next year, there's Phoenix Rising in New Orleans in May, Sectus (a 
slash-and-fanfic-centric event) in London in July and Prophecy in 
Toronto in August, and some aussies are talking about doing something in 
07 too. And there's a few things happening in NYC on August 1 & 2 in 
connection with the JKR reading at Radio City.

FictionAlley has a forum with posts about upcoming events - you can find 
it at 
http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=158 and 
it has links to all the above events.


Heidi



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 12:56:31 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:56:31 +1000
Subject: clothing
Message-ID: <44B8E5FF.60301@internode.on.net>

Here's some stuff I discovered, which looks ok.
just the top/t-shirt... have to hunt for more
bits and pieces.

I don't want all black though, trying to get some
amount of colour in there.

http://www.sinistercandy.com/SinisterCandyMain.htm

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 15 13:17:45 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:17:45 +1000
Subject: protest
Message-ID: <44B8EAF9.2010206@internode.on.net>

Awww. :(

Wolfie!


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul 15 15:30:05 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:30:05 -0400
Subject: Super/Target's odd loophole system for internal coupons
Message-ID: <1a2738400607150830u7f66fdady8d6b05a57fdcf1bd@mail.gmail.com>

I just came back from Super Target, bought 52 single serve "to go"
cups of cereal, which totaled to $46.44, and gave the cashier 52
coupons, which totaled to $44, resulting in my paying only $2.44.  Of
that, twenty coupons had expired 7/8/06 and the register still
accepted them.

http://sites.target.com/site/en/supertarget/page.jsp?title=supertarget_home

It's still YMMV (regular Targets can take Super Target coupons but
it's more YMMV) because you may get an uptight cashier or manager,
even though I've seen folks request letters from Target's corp level
where they state the store has to accept the coupons because they're
directly from Target's website and the 'void if copied' bit negates
the fact a person can just be hitting 'print' repeatedly, thus,
creating a whole new grey area of what is 'copying'.

If you get a cashier who really doesn't care, Target's internal coupon
system is full of loopholes.  For example, I've heard reports the Coke
coupon works on other items, and as evident by today, the register's
system will accept expired Target coupons.  Some coupons have no size
limit and you can get the smallest/snack sizes that create a 'credit
effect' (i.e. the coupon's saving can be greater than the price of the
product) to make other things reduced to nearly free.  However,
Target's system refuses to let anyone get a negative balance, so
you'll have to pay *some* money.

Overall, good stuff to give to friends, co-workers, family, and
charities, if you think this is too much junk food... and they needn't
know you got all of it for free to almost free.

Dina



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 15 15:38:05 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:38:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
In-Reply-To: <e99jpf+vhej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060715153805.52955.qmail@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


--- lydiaccc <demeter at jimmycat.com> wrote:

> Does anyone here know of any lists of conventions
> and their dates?  I
> was thinking of going to Lumos, but I figured out it
> would cost me
> about $1500 to go.  I don't have that kind of money
> to throw around. 
> Does anyone know of any other conventions coming up?
>  Or maybe next year?
>

In addition to the list that Heidi provided,
Convention Alley is planning a repeat event for 2008.
Dates to be announced closer to the time, but
definitely sometime during the summer. :)

Sheryll

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From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Sat Jul 15 17:17:25 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:17:25 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
In-Reply-To: <20060715153805.52955.qmail@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e9b7v5+8qv7@eGroups.com>

You can also find a list on the Floo Network home page under Events 
and Reminders here: http://www.floo-network.org/#events

I've included the upcoming LeakyMug podcasts, but do not have links 
for info yet.

Sheryll, I'd love to add Convention Alley to the list! Shall I say 
tentatively scheduled for Summer 2008?  in Ottawa again?







From hallie at thephoenixrises.org  Sat Jul 15 23:15:48 2006
From: hallie at thephoenixrises.org (Hallie Tibbetts)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:15:48 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
In-Reply-To: <e99jpf+vhej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e9bsv4+s8s4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone here know of any lists of conventions and their dates?  I
> was thinking of going to Lumos, but I figured out it would cost me
> about $1500 to go.  I don't have that kind of money to throw around. 
> Does anyone know of any other conventions coming up?  Or maybe next
year?
>


As was mentioned, Phoenix Rising will be May 17-21, 2007, in New
Orleans--in fact, in the French Quarter. (It's more than ready for
conventions!) We'll be taking over the Sheraton New Orleans Hotel for
five days of programming, from lectures to workshops and from panels
to intimate roundtable discussions. There will also be a Quidditch
tournament, a traditional New Orleans-style masquerade ball, an
Artists and Authors Night that showcases all sorts of creative fan
endeavors, a big event on a Bourbon Street balcony, the chance to
share your favorite memories on our Remembrall Wall, and lots of other
programs and special events. 

We've also got some fabulous guests coming, like Tim Ditlow (publisher
of the audiobooks), Henry Jenkins (a media scholar who's studied HP
fans), Danny Bilson (Hollywood producer and VP of Intellectual
Property at EA Games, and worked with JKR to develop the HP video
games) and others. But maybe instead of being all excited I should
just point you to the Phoenix Rising website:
http://www.thephoenixrises.org . ;)

You're right, though, that traveling to go to conventions can be
expensive. To bring the cost down, I usually try to room with other
fans in a quad room, I try to get conference tickets at earlybird
rates, I watch for discounted air/bus/rail tickets or group rates and
cheaper fares, and I bring along snacks and water so that I don't burn
through money that way. Sometimes when I've been a presenter, my job
has agreed to pay for some of my expenses, too. 

Does anybody else have some tips for low-cost travel? (I like to
collect them.)

:D Hallie



Phoenix Rising
www.thephoenixrises.org







From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jul 15 23:21:59 2006
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:21:59 -0000
Subject: The Ultimate Hugh Jackman Video
Message-ID: <e9btan+dpnh@eGroups.com>

If you're a Jackman fan - but only if you're a *total* Jackman fan - 
this is a must-see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpyLzORfP0

  - CMC







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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:16:57 -0400
Subject: CROWSWOLF PRESS
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630607152016wf037efdgc2b4a4428d5e1644@mail.gmail.com>

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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 07:10:41 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 03:10:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Low cost travel (was: Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos)
In-Reply-To: <e9bsv4+s8s4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060716071041.64197.qmail@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hallie:
> You're right, though, that traveling to go to
> conventions can be
> expensive. To bring the cost down, I usually try to
> room with other
> fans in a quad room, I try to get conference tickets
> at earlybird
> rates, I watch for discounted air/bus/rail tickets
> or group rates and
> cheaper fares, and I bring along snacks and water so
> that I don't burn
> through money that way. Sometimes when I've been a
> presenter, my job
> has agreed to pay for some of my expenses, too. 
> 
> Does anybody else have some tips for low-cost
> travel? (I like to
> collect them.)
> 
Sheryll:

I take the bus almost everytime I travel. For any
Canadians who don't mind the longer trips on a bus,
Greyhound Canada has something called the Go Anywhere
fare. They haven't raised the price from last year, so
I'm paying only $225 Canadian, return, for my trip to
Lumos. The fare is good anywhere in Canada or the US. 

I wouldn't be surprised to see them raise it by next
summer, but it shouldn't be much. They were supposed
to raise it to $240 this year, so that'll probably be
the next increase. Price changes to the fare take
place in either May or October. 

The only catch with the fare is that you can't make
stopovers along the way, you must go straight to your
destination and back. This doesn't mean the bus goes
non-stop, just that you can't make any overnight stops
of your own choosing. Stops along the way can be
anywhere from 10-15 minutes to a couple of hours,
giving you lots of time to stretch your legs and walk
around a bit.

The only warning about long trips: take along as much
food as you can. Bus depot food is terrible. But every
single station I've been through has a water fountain
with decently drinkable water, so take along a
refillable bottle and save yourself the cost of drinks
along the way.

Sheryll, veteran bus rider :)

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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 07:26:35 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 03:26:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos
In-Reply-To: <e9b7v5+8qv7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060716072635.21841.qmail@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


--- Belinda <bhobbs36 at verizon.net> wrote:

> You can also find a list on the Floo Network home
> page under Events 
> and Reminders here:
> http://www.floo-network.org/#events
> 
> I've included the upcoming LeakyMug podcasts, but do
> not have links 
> for info yet.
> 
> Sheryll, I'd love to add Convention Alley to the
> list! Shall I say 
> tentatively scheduled for Summer 2008?  in Ottawa
> again?
> 
Sheryll:

Yes, that would be wonderful! Tentatively scheduled
for Summer 2008 sounds right. Definitely in Ottawa,
likey the same venues as well - University of Ottawa
and the Congress Centre. 

Thanks, Belinda!

Sheryll

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From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 16 07:44:12 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:44:12 +1000
Subject: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <e9c51d+ddok@eGroups.com>
References: <e9c51d+ddok@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B9EE4C.8000103@internode.on.net>

I've been researching gothic clothing, and I'm coming to one important 
conclusion... it's black, not just some black, but it's almost usually
all black, blacker than black... way too much black.

*sigh*

no it's not what I wanted, but there are a few usuable bits
and pieces which I've seen.

I basically don't want to come across as the girl from Beetlejuice
and since I'm planning to wear this stuff to a wedding, I don't
want to be dressed as though it's a funeral.

I'll continue the search.

Wolfie!



From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 08:05:29 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:05:29 -0000
Subject: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <44B9EE4C.8000103@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e9cs09+os8k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> I've been researching gothic clothing, and I'm coming to one 
important conclusion... it's black, not just some black, but it's 
almost usually all black, blacker than black... way too much black.
> 
> *sigh*
++snip++

Doddie here:

it's not black....it's a "look"....my daughter tried that 
entire "goth" thing.....wearing ALL black ALL the time!
so I did an entire pink/bably blue/red/royal blue/brown etc. 
thing....

so funny watching all of her friends..LOL

I have 'piercings'....but they are for me, not most other folk...
(other than my nose and ears)... ZLOL

For anyone truely researching the "gothic" experience I reccomend 
they go to San Francicisco...and pay a visit to "Bondage-a-go-
go"...a good club where they like voyeurs as well as participants...

DD










From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 16 08:30:37 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:30:37 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <e9cs09+os8k@eGroups.com>
References: <e9cs09+os8k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44B9F92D.1020908@internode.on.net>


> it's not black....it's a "look"....my daughter tried that 
> entire "goth" thing.....wearing ALL black ALL the time!
> so I did an entire pink/bably blue/red/royal blue/brown etc. 
> thing....

I know, I'm being a bit sarcastic.

It's hard to find that mix though.

Not to look like you're wearing a costume, or for the stranger
to point and say "look at that goth".

I want something much lighter in colour, and something which
stands out.

So it appears I need to look further, even if I need to pay
someone to make something.

Don't say "make it yourself" I was pushed into sewing class at
highschool and well... well I was inline for cookery classes and
there were too many, so I was one of the unlucky ones.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 16 10:19:58 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:19:58 +1000
Subject: clothing again again... really good HP stuff!
Message-ID: <44BA12CE.1040902@internode.on.net>

http://www.lituus.org/frameset1.htm

Wolfie!



From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Sun Jul 16 10:56:48 2006
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:56:48 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] clothing again
In-Reply-To: <44B9EE4C.8000103@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPEEIODLAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Wolfie, 

black is good for everything, wedding's funerals, work, play, everything. 

there is no such thing as too much black

storm /  jennaj

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From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul 16 14:09:05 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:09:05 -0000
Subject: Low cost travel (was: Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos)
In-Reply-To: <20060716071041.64197.qmail@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e9dha1+d63a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at ...>
wrote:
>
> Sheryll:
> 
> I take the bus almost everytime I travel.  (snip)
> The only warning about long trips: take along as much
> food as you can. Bus depot food is terrible. But every
> single station I've been through has a water fountain
> with decently drinkable water, so take along a
> refillable bottle and save yourself the cost of drinks
> along the way.

I had to take the bus home to Los Angeles from Grant's Pass, Oregon,
when our old car broke down. It gave me fleas.






From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul 16 14:07:09 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:07:09 -0000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <44B4637C.8010705@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e9dh6d+v7kl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
> 
> Yeah but what does a wizarding family pay out in bills?
> They don't use electricity or gas or fuel... so unless water
> and council rates are high, that only leaves a food bill.

I doubt they pay for water (I think it is teleported to them by magic
rather than pumped to them in pipes) or Muggle taxes (council rates),
but they do need clothing, and apparently, even tho' Mrs. Weasley
knits and crochets, she doesn't sew, or whatever the magic version of
sewing is. (I am very troubled by the scene in Madam Malkin's shop in
PS/SS, where she pins up the hem of Harry's robe in the Muggle way --
why can't she just point a wand at it and say Hemmus Pinnus? Better
yet, Hemmus Sewus!)

Floo powder apparently costs money (CoS: "We're running low, Arthur,"
she sighed. "We'll have to buy some more today...."). I have no idea
if there is a monthly fee for being connected to the Floo Network.

We don't know anything about the prices of wizarding health care. 

Nor whether the mortgage on The Burrow is paid off.

I suspect that Ministry salaries are intended to ensure that only
people with an inheritance to live on take jobs there, based on page
ix of Fantastic Beasts: "I was then but a lowly Ministry of Magic
employee ... my pitiful salary of two Sickles a week...."






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 14:27:20 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Low cost travel (was: Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos)
In-Reply-To: <e9dha1+d63a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060716142720.56848.qmail@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

> > Sheryll:
> > 
> > I take the bus almost everytime I travel.  (snip)
> > The only warning about long trips: take along as
> much
> > food as you can. Bus depot food is terrible. But
> every
> > single station I've been through has a water
> fountain
> > with decently drinkable water, so take along a
> > refillable bottle and save yourself the cost of
> drinks
> > along the way.
> 
Catlady:
> I had to take the bus home to Los Angeles from
> Grant's Pass, Oregon,
> when our old car broke down. It gave me fleas.
> 
Sheryll again:

Ew, what a horrible experience! I can feel myself
itching in sympathy as I type. Oh, wait, maybe that's
the sweat dripping down my back from the heatwave
we're having here.

My worst experience on the bus happened on my last
trip to visit the Amandageist last fall. Had some
young man threaten to slit my throat with my pen. Long
story, but it ended with my leaning over and
whispering to him in very calm, cool voice, "The next
time this bus stops, I suggest you change seats. You
don't know what kind of person *I* am, either." He
changed seats at the next stop!

Sheryll, intrepid bus rider

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 16 15:08:18 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:08:18 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <e9dh6d+v7kl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001101c6a8e9$ab925c60$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[Catlady]:
| I doubt they pay for water (I think it is teleported to them by magic
| rather than pumped to them in pipes) or Muggle taxes (council rates),
| but they do need clothing, and apparently, even tho' Mrs. Weasley
| knits and crochets, she doesn't sew, or whatever the magic version of
| sewing is. (I am very troubled by the scene in Madam Malkin's shop in
| PS/SS, where she pins up the hem of Harry's robe in the Muggle way --
| why can't she just point a wand at it and say Hemmus Pinnus? Better
| yet, Hemmus Sewus!)

[Lee]:
Well, I tend to think that wizards and witches in the Potterverse don't feel
they need to use magic for everything every time.  I allude to Molly's
reprimand to Gred and Forge in HBP that they didn't need to use magic for
every little thing.

Note the many instances where magic is not used...places where it either
could have been or was in another such instance.  Examples:
In COS, Molly slices bread for Harry; in HBP, Arthur sets the knives to
chopping stuff up.

In SS, Snape cleans up spilled potion with a wave of his wand; in POA,
Trelawney hands Neville a broom and dustpan to clean up the broken tea cup
rather than either vanishing it or doing a Repairo.

Again, books are repaired with Spellotape in GOF when it would be just as
easy for someone to do a Repairo.

So, in that wise, it seems that magic is used by different folk in different
ways, sometimes arbitrarily, perhaps.

[Catlady]:
| Floo powder apparently costs money (CoS: "We're running low, Arthur,"
| she sighed. "We'll have to buy some more today...."). I have no idea
| if there is a monthly fee for being connected to the Floo Network.

[Lee]:
Probably there is.  And there's probably a fee for having a vault at
Gringots, too.

[Catlady]:
| We don't know anything about the prices of wizarding health care. 
| 
| Nor whether the mortgage on The Burrow is paid off.

[Lee]:
Right, and we don't know exactly what the tuition to Hogwarts is, either.

[Catlady]:
| I suspect that Ministry salaries are intended to ensure that only
| people with an inheritance to live on take jobs there, based on page
| ix of Fantastic Beasts: "I was then but a lowly Ministry of Magic
| employee ... my pitiful salary of two Sickles a week...."

[Lee]:
Well, I don't know about the inheritance thing, but if you take the model of
how people are paid in the average, workaday world, anyone in a position of
management will be making more than the rest of the "lowly" employees by a
huge margin, often times.  And, as I see it, the Misuse Of Muggle Artifacts
department is only one in a cluster under Magical Law Enforcement.  So, the
head of the Law Enforcement department probably gets the galleons while
those like Arthur get the sickles.

Another thing to consider: How much was lost when Voldemort had been in
power?  Perhaps there had been an inheritance but it is no more.

Now, add up the possible mortgage, Floo Network registration, clothing for
nine which includes school uniforms for as many as 5 at a time (COS and
POA), tuition for up to five at a time (COS and POA), books and supplies for
up to five at a time (COS and POA), other needs like broomsticks (perhaps
the price of a used car???), etc. etc. ... I'm getting poor just thinking
about all that!  Then, feeding nine people with food to spare (I believe
Molly was raised in traditions of hospitality), and the galleons mount up.

Anyway, I'll stop rambling...like I say, I'm getting poor just thinking
about it!

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 16 15:38:13 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:38:13 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <001101c6a8e9$ab925c60$65a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <001101c6a8e9$ab925c60$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44BA5D65.8000609@internode.on.net>


> In SS, Snape cleans up spilled potion with a wave of his wand; in POA,
> Trelawney hands Neville a broom and dustpan to clean up the broken tea cup
> rather than either vanishing it or doing a Repairo.

I think Trelawney wasn't magical though... in the typical sense,
of course Harry was.

Wolfie!



From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sun Jul 16 18:18:02 2006
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:18:02 -0000
Subject: The Prince's First Birthday
Message-ID: <e9dvsq+prrn@eGroups.com>

Just a reminder that it was a year ago today that we were all eagerly 
persuing our freshly minted copies of HBP.

   - CMC







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jul 16 19:01:00 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:01:00 -0400
Subject: The Prince's First Birthday
In-Reply-To: <e9dvsq+prrn@eGroups.com>
References: <e9dvsq+prrn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607161201m5bc5d2abl6a7450d2eec53aa9@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/16/06, Caius Marcius <coriolan at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Just a reminder that it was a year ago today that we were all eagerly
> persuing our freshly minted copies of HBP.

Darn, I'm at home.  I'd be curious if the HBP desktop theme on my work
computer would say anything today... Probably not, but for the month
of July, it did have July's 16 in big purple numbers.

Dina



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 17 00:45:58 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:45:58 -0000
Subject: Low cost travel (was: Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos)
In-Reply-To: <20060716142720.56848.qmail@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e9emk6+iq24@eGroups.com>

>
> Catlady:
> > I had to take the bus home to Los Angeles from
> > Grant's Pass, Oregon,
> > when our old car broke down. It gave me fleas.
> > 
> Sheryll again:
> 
> Ew, what a horrible experience! I can feel myself
> itching in sympathy as I type. Oh, wait, maybe that's
> the sweat dripping down my back from the heatwave
> we're having here.
> 
> My worst experience on the bus happened on my last
> trip to visit the Amandageist last fall. Had some
> young man threaten to slit my throat with my pen. Long
> story, but it ended with my leaning over and
> whispering to him in very calm, cool voice, "The next
> time this bus stops, I suggest you change seats. You
> don't know what kind of person *I* am, either." He
> changed seats at the next stop!
> 
> Sheryll, intrepid bus rider
> 

Tonks:
And this is why I HATE public transportation!!  The train on the 
other hand was kind of fun. I hate flying too. Makes me sick. I 
prefer to drive. But then when I went to the HP convention in Salem 
I had 2 accidents when I was there. Lucky to be alive from the 
second one. And $5,000.00 in repairs! Ins. paid.  Maybe we should 
just all apparate. Broom are not much fun either. 

Tonks_op







From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 17 01:06:40 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:06:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Computer gurus, please help me troubleshoot a pc issue
In-Reply-To: <e9dha1+d63a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060717010640.82462.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com>

Every time I log on under my name,  a message from Microsoft Word 2002 pops up:
  "The feathure you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or other removable disk that is not available.  Insert the 'Microsoft Word 2002' disck and click OK."
   
  If I click the cancel button, then:
  "Please wait while Windows configures Microsoft Word 2002."  
   
  It configures (I guess), allows me to use an effed up version of Word 2002.
   
  We bought the system with xp operating system, but I forget what Word version (I think it was Office xp.)  We bought it in January 2005.  And I think we had the newest version at the time.  (A dog made lame suggestions instead of a paperclip)
   
  When my wife logs on under her name it's similar, except when she goes to save a error message pops up (something about C++ and a library)  If you 'x' out or hit ok, it will terminate the word session.  When you try to open it again, what you've typed has been recovered but you can't open it without the same error message and close out occurring.   
   
  I tried going to Microsoft, but found that I was not able to articulate effectively my problem in 4 - 10 words.
   
  Thank you to all.
   
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 17 01:37:57 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:37:57 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Computer gurus,
 please help me troubleshoot a pc issue
In-Reply-To: <20060717010640.82462.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c6a941$a238aef0$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Kemper,
sounds like Word Office wants to do an update.  The setup files are on the
CD that houses Word.  You need to insert the CD in order for it to do it's
update.  You probably have automatic updates turned on and this, with the
newer versions of Microsoft Update, encompasses all microsoft products.
Since the setup files are on your Office 2002 or Office XP CD, you'll need
to insert the disk.

One of the features of Word 2003 is that you can leave setup files on your
machine which generally works well.  Sometimes it does ask for the CD, but
not often.

Hope this solves your problem, or at least properly addresses it.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 17 01:52:11 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:52:11 -0400
Subject: Using Magic? (was Re: Why were the Weasleys poor?)
In-Reply-To: <44BA5D65.8000609@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <001001c6a943$9ea5b240$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[Wolfie]:
| I think Trelawney wasn't magical though... in the typical sense,
| of course Harry was.

[Lee]:
Well, she did use her wand to dim the lights.  So, can we say that Prof.
hooch wasn't magical, either?  She could have used her wand to break
Neville's fall, she could have accioed the broom to keep it from flying away
into the forest, yet in OOTP, she does do a mean Impedimenta.

And we don't see much magic from Prof Sprout, either, but she must obviously
have some or she wouldn't be considered a witch. <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 17 02:57:35 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:57:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Low cost travel (was: Re: Harry Potter conventions other than Lumos)
In-Reply-To: <e9emk6+iq24@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060717025735.25591.qmail@web56015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

> 
> Tonks:
> And this is why I HATE public transportation!!  The
> train on the 
> other hand was kind of fun. I hate flying too. Makes
> me sick. I 
> prefer to drive. But then when I went to the HP
> convention in Salem 
> I had 2 accidents when I was there. Lucky to be
> alive from the 
> second one. And $5,000.00 in repairs! Ins. paid. 
> Maybe we should 
> just all apparate. Broom are not much fun either. 
> 
Sheryll:

I actually don't mind public transportation. Of
course, we don't drive, either Andy or I, so we don't
really have a choice. And most of my bus trips have
been relatively uneventful. In fact, the same trip
that had the threatening young man was also one of the
most fun trips down to Texas. I had 2 other traveling
companions all the way from Detroit to Dallas. Very
unusual. But we had pretty uncrowded buses, had seats
to ourselves most of that way and had lots of good
late night conversation. 

The same habit of talking to anyone that drives my
daughter crazy also serves in good stead in traveling
situations like this. And I always manage to find lots
of fellow HP fans along the way, generally without my
even mentioning HP first. Sometimes they see me
reading one of the books, or they are, and
conversation just goes from there.

Sheryll, also thinking apparition would be much handier

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From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jul 17 10:02:38 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:02:38 +0200
Subject: Just wondering...
Message-ID: <44BB7C5E020000780000003A@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>

I know I'm late here, but I was on leave, and so I couldn't read this
till now.

I'm in two minds about this.  Firstly, there won't be more than seven
books, so, if Harry dies, then it is a complete ending to the books.  On
the other hand, I'll cry for days if he dies.  I found it really
difficult when Frodo died in a manner of speaking in the lord of the
rings.  I still think that Harry can still be kept alive in fan fiction.
 Let's just see what happens and then work from there.

cairie 

>>> heidi8 at gmail.com 2006-07-05 19:20 >>>
On 7/5/06, jeanico2000 <jheiler at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Am I one of the only adult HP readers who would be deeply troubled
if
> JK kills Harry off in book 7?

My mom called me last week, very upset about the idea of Harry dying.
She said that JKR would be the meanest person in the world if she did
that.

On one level I think it would be horrible to do, but on another level,
I am still upset that she sent Sirius through the veil, so for her to
kill off Harry too wouldn't really devestate me personally - but I'd
be upset for the others - for the kids - who'd feel the impact.

Heidi

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From joseph at kirtland.com  Mon Jul 17 21:13:27 2006
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:13:27 -0000
Subject: The Prince's First Birthday
In-Reply-To: <e9dvsq+prrn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e9guhn+f583@eGroups.com>

Has there been any speculation as to when book seven will be released?

I am betting on 07/07/07.  What more fitting a date for the seventh
book, not to mention JKR's fondness of the number seven.

Joe



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" <coriolan at ...>
wrote:
>
> Just a reminder that it was a year ago today that we were all eagerly 
> persuing our freshly minted copies of HBP.
> 
>    - CMC
>







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 17 23:02:09 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:02:09 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Prince's First Birthday
In-Reply-To: <e9guhn+f583@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c6a9f5$0838f530$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[Joe wrote]:
| Has there been any speculation as to when book seven will be released?
| 
| I am betting on 07/07/07.  What more fitting a date for the seventh
| book, not to mention JKR's fondness of the number seven.

[Lee]:
I still wish it would be released on either Harry's Birthday or Halloween.
July 31 would be so fitting and marketable, but Halloween would be symbolic
of his wish to return to Godrick's Hollow, etc.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 18 05:15:36 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:15:36 -0000
Subject: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <44B9EE4C.8000103@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e9hqpo+6vsi@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> I've been researching gothic clothing, and I'm coming to one 
important 
> conclusion... it's black, not just some black, but it's almost 
usually
> all black, blacker than black... way too much black.
> 
> *sigh*
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > it's not black....it's a "look"....my daughter tried that 
> > entire "goth" thing.....wearing ALL black ALL the time!
> > so I did an entire pink/bably blue/red/royal blue/brown etc. 
> > thing....
> 
> I know, I'm being a bit sarcastic.
> 
> It's hard to find that mix though.
> 
> Not to look like you're wearing a costume, or for the stranger
> to point and say "look at that goth".
> 
> I want something much lighter in colour, and something which
> stands out.
> 
> So it appears I need to look further, even if I need to pay
> someone to make something.

doddie here:
well, why didn't you say so to begin with!??

here would be my advice to you...(sorry don't know your coloring so 
you need to adjust the coloring to suit your style)

1. need a white palate---but not necesarily so...just a clean blank 
one and add color on...

for example...look at makeup colors first..(eyeliner comes in many 
different colors---escpecially red)...hence layer on red===red 
lips/eyes(if not eye shadow then blush), blush too dark of 
red...clothes tootoo red..(wash your regular black jeans with a 
tablespoon of red dye in the wash)...
If you are speaking about "goth mythic" in general....then it's a 
facination/preoccupation of the "after life" (hence life beyond the 
veil)...everythings a little darker, a little dirtier...my daughter 
had a therapist that always used to talk about how she smoked and 
never used an ash tray, but her jeans...she flicked the ash on her 
pants and rubbed it in..*shudder* (and yes we didn't go back after 
that--seeing as she reccomened that to my daughter, but I did 
remember that when making my kids Halloween costumes!)


At the very least, put on as much makeup as you can for several 
days, no make up remover...just keep adding....and watch the cake 
commence...

Same goes with clothes....go to the good will, the goofier clothes 
the better(if you make them black), the cheaper ones too--give them 
a dye wash/ash job..

as for piercings....there are still plenty of magnetic "rings" (ear 
and otherwise" out there..

Also,too big/huge/loud false eyelashes can work wonders too....
(think tragic funeral on an acid trip--but not an acid trip anywhere 
else))

Doddie,
(who wonders if you bring a gothic date while wearing some retro 
clothing with some sort of embarassing stain on with a couple of 
embarassing magnetic "piercings" after having a good cry with what 
ever makeup you want to wear may make a better impression..LOL)


> 
>








From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul 18 07:36:08 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:36:08 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <e9hqpo+6vsi@eGroups.com>
References: <e9hqpo+6vsi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44BC8F68.3040305@internode.on.net>


> Doddie,
> (who wonders if you bring a gothic date while wearing some retro 
> clothing with some sort of embarassing stain on with a couple of 
> embarassing magnetic "piercings" after having a good cry with what 
> ever makeup you want to wear may make a better impression..LOL)

I have found the perfect thing... something like this, or close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpf4b1_u7Zg&search=pet%20shop%20boys%20don%27t%20know

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jul 18 12:25:14 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:25:14 +1000
Subject: Duirwaigh - A knock at the door.
Message-ID: <44BCD32A.3030505@internode.on.net>

A lovely fantasy thing, worth seeing.
http://www.duirwaighgallery.com/inspiration_aknock.htm

Wolfie!



From olly at olly86.co.uk  Tue Jul 18 12:59:58 2006
From: olly at olly86.co.uk (Olly)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:59:58 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Prince's First Birthday
In-Reply-To: <000e01c6a9f5$0838f530$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <00d601c6aa6a$1a1ecfc0$947ba8c0@OllyLaptop>

Joe wrote:
>> Has there been any speculation as to when book seven will be released?
>> 
>> I am betting on 07/07/07. What more fitting a date for the seventh
>> book, not to mention JKR's fondness of the number seven.

Lee wrote:
> I still wish it would be released on either Harry's Birthday or Halloween.
> July 31 would be so fitting and marketable, but Halloween would be
> symbolic of his wish to return to Godrick's Hollow, etc. 

Olly:
I don't believe JKR would allow a 7/7/07 release date, or at least in the UK
as that will be the second anniversary of the London bombings; it will be
too fresh in people's minds.  But, possibly some other time in July as she
still gets her 7th month.

Olly




From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 19 11:14:28 2006
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewyck)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:14:28 -0000
Subject: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
Message-ID: <e9l46k+rgbg@eGroups.com>

Hello everyone, I'm new here, one of the elf in HPFGU encouraged me to 
post here since this post is more suited here. Anybody been to the 
leacky cauldron site and read this? 
It's about a madam Pomfrey's study recently published in Annals-
Academy of Medecine in Singapore. It was written by a real doctor in 
our real world. It is cute and funny and connected to the potterverse. 
This is a real article and the author is Dr. Erle Chuen-Hian Lim.
You can go to leaky cauldron site to read about it but they did not 
put the whole article there or click this link to read the full study: 
http://www.annalsmed.org/pdf/35VolNo2200603/V35N2pl27.pdf
I hope you'll enjoy it.


maria8162001 who enjoyed the wizard worl and muggle world crossing.









From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 19 16:00:55 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:00:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at
 Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <e9l46k+rgbg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001701c6ab4c$84dd5600$6aa4a8c0@rosie>

I couldn't get the full link to the article to work.  Where is it on Laky?

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Wed Jul 19 16:22:23 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:22:23 -0000
Subject: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <001701c6ab4c$84dd5600$6aa4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <e9lm7v+du46@eGroups.com>

Love this paper!  It has some minor inaccuracies in the spelling of 
some words etc, but is altogether hilarious!  Especially considering 
it is published in an actual medical journal.  I plan to use it as an 
example to my students on how to footnote and attribute.

I was just trying to figure out why Maria's link wouldn't work.  tis 
strange.
Here is a link to the Annals.  
http://www.annalsmed.org/
It appears in the past issue February 2006 under Veiwpoint, for 
anyone wanting to take the long way around.

One of the things I don't like about the new Leaky is the inability 
to search and link to the text only version. But here's a link to the 
article there (if it works)
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/index.php?articleID=8861

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> I couldn't get the full link to the article to work.  Where is it 
on Laky?
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>








From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 19 16:57:31 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:57:31 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at
 Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <e9lm7v+du46@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6ab54$6ce99dd0$6aa4a8c0@rosie>

Belinda, thanks for the main link, and I was able to get the article through
there.  I think I have my Adobe reader set not to read online because it
slows my machine to a total crawl trying to prepare the document for
accessible reading and then the processing of the speech...so saving and
reading at my leisure is the better option.

Fortunately, most of this document is readable in Acrobat.  Often (too
often). PDF documents are more trouble than they're worth, some are totally
useless because the format is all graphical words rather than going through
a true conversion process.

But, enough rambling...it looks like a fun article and I'll even print it
out for Art. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Wed Jul 19 17:05:54 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:05:54 -0000
Subject: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <000001c6ab54$6ce99dd0$6aa4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <e9lopi+ah0s@eGroups.com>

You're welcome!
and I understand about the pdf's and readers, I thought of that.  
Glad this one is ok for you!
BTW, I figured out what is wrong with Maria's link.  She had an "L" 
instead of a number one at the end.  Here's the direct link for 
anyone else who might want it.
http://www.annalsmed.org/pdf/35VolNo2200603/V35N2p127.pdf

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Belinda, thanks for the main link, and I was able to get the 
article through
> there.  I think I have my Adobe reader set not to read online 
because it
> slows my machine to a total crawl trying to prepare the document for
> accessible reading and then the processing of the speech...so 
saving and
> reading at my leisure is the better option.
> 
> Fortunately, most of this document is readable in Acrobat.  Often 
(too
> often). PDF documents are more trouble than they're worth, some are 
totally
> useless because the format is all graphical words rather than going 
through
> a true conversion process.
> 
> But, enough rambling...it looks like a fun article and I'll even 
print it
> out for Art. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>







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From: ssteplana at yahoo.com (Svetlana)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:20:26 -0000
Subject: Member Satisfaction Survey - Link has been fixed!
Message-ID: <e9mi8a+23s4@eGroups.com>

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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jul 20 04:44:43 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:44:43 EDT
Subject: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
Message-ID: <54b.3987ef7.31f0643b@aol.com>

Belinda wrote:
I was just trying to figure out why Maria's link wouldn't work. tis  strange.
Here is a link to the Annals. 
_http://www.annalsmehttp:/_ (http://www.annalsmed.org/) 
It  appears in the past issue February 2006 under Veiwpoint, for anyone 
wanting to  take the long way around.


I write back:
Thanks for locating it for us. I loved the infirmary in the first movie and  
was disappointed at the lack of paintings on the walls in the second one. In 
my  own kitchen, I made a poster that says: Madam Pomfrey says "A clean 
cauldron  keeps a potion from becoming a poison." It's embellished with a small photo 
of  Movie Pomfrey. 
 
Pomfrey's name always tickled at my mind and I finally figured it out.  
Pomfrey=comfrey, a herb to speed healing, especially of bones.
 
---Mary


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From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 20 10:45:29 2006
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewijck)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <e9lopi+ah0s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060720104529.4707.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>

maria8162001:
   
  Thank you, Belinda for correcting and posting the correct link, sorry for that. Sorry everyone, I checked my post before I posted it but still I didn't noticed that I put the "l" instead of "1". Thanks, I'll checked my post properly next time.
   
  maria8162001 who's so sorry for making a mistake on the link I gave.

Belinda <bhobbs36 at verizon.net> wrote:
          You're welcome!
and I understand about the pdf's and readers, I thought of that. 
Glad this one is ok for you!
BTW, I figured out what is wrong with Maria's link. She had an "L" 
instead of a number one at the end. Here's the direct link for 
anyone else who might want it.
http://www.annalsmed.org/pdf/35VolNo2200603/V35N2p127.pdf

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Belinda, thanks for the main link, and I was able to get the 
article through
> there. I think I have my Adobe reader set not to read online 
because it
> slows my machine to a total crawl trying to prepare the document for
> accessible reading and then the processing of the speech...so 
saving and
> reading at my leisure is the better option.
> 
> Fortunately, most of this document is readable in Acrobat. Often 
(too
> often). PDF documents are more trouble than they're worth, some are 
totally
> useless because the format is all graphical words rather than going 
through
> a true conversion process.
> 
> But, enough rambling...it looks like a fun article and I'll even 
print it
> out for Art. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead; | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>



         



 		
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From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 20 10:45:37 2006
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewijck)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <e9lopi+ah0s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060720104537.80395.qmail@web53214.mail.yahoo.com>

maria8162001:
   
  Thank you, Belinda for correcting and posting the correct link, sorry for that. Sorry everyone, I checked my post before I posted it but still I didn't noticed that I put the "l" instead of "1". Thanks, I'll checked my post properly next time.
   
  maria8162001 who's so sorry for making a mistake on the link I gave.

Belinda <bhobbs36 at verizon.net> wrote:
          You're welcome!
and I understand about the pdf's and readers, I thought of that. 
Glad this one is ok for you!
BTW, I figured out what is wrong with Maria's link. She had an "L" 
instead of a number one at the end. Here's the direct link for 
anyone else who might want it.
http://www.annalsmed.org/pdf/35VolNo2200603/V35N2p127.pdf

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Belinda, thanks for the main link, and I was able to get the 
article through
> there. I think I have my Adobe reader set not to read online 
because it
> slows my machine to a total crawl trying to prepare the document for
> accessible reading and then the processing of the speech...so 
saving and
> reading at my leisure is the better option.
> 
> Fortunately, most of this document is readable in Acrobat. Often 
(too
> often). PDF documents are more trouble than they're worth, some are 
totally
> useless because the format is all graphical words rather than going 
through
> a true conversion process.
> 
> But, enough rambling...it looks like a fun article and I'll even 
print it
> out for Art. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead; | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>



         



 		
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From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 20 10:45:30 2006
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewijck)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:45:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <e9lopi+ah0s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060720104531.4060.qmail@web53207.mail.yahoo.com>

maria8162001:
   
  Thank you, Belinda for correcting and posting the correct link, sorry for that. Sorry everyone, I checked my post before I posted it but still I didn't noticed that I put the "l" instead of "1". Thanks, I'll checked my post properly next time.
   
  maria8162001 who's so sorry for making a mistake on the link I gave.

Belinda <bhobbs36 at verizon.net> wrote:
          You're welcome!
and I understand about the pdf's and readers, I thought of that. 
Glad this one is ok for you!
BTW, I figured out what is wrong with Maria's link. She had an "L" 
instead of a number one at the end. Here's the direct link for 
anyone else who might want it.
http://www.annalsmed.org/pdf/35VolNo2200603/V35N2p127.pdf

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Belinda, thanks for the main link, and I was able to get the 
article through
> there. I think I have my Adobe reader set not to read online 
because it
> slows my machine to a total crawl trying to prepare the document for
> accessible reading and then the processing of the speech...so 
saving and
> reading at my leisure is the better option.
> 
> Fortunately, most of this document is readable in Acrobat. Often 
(too
> often). PDF documents are more trouble than they're worth, some are 
totally
> useless because the format is all graphical words rather than going 
through
> a true conversion process.
> 
> But, enough rambling...it looks like a fun article and I'll even 
print it
> out for Art. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> 
> Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead; | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>



         

 		
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jul 20 14:25:54 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:25:54 +1000
Subject: Seconondlife - the pros and cons
Message-ID: <44BF9272.4070806@internode.on.net>

Hello all, although I have mainly written this for the HP community,
the thoughts here well apply to almost everyone else.

Please note that these are only my personal thoughts, and perhaps
I'm being overly critical, but then I'm also suggesting you try things
out if you haven't because this is the way technology is headed and it's
a good way to dip your toes in the water.

It's about Secondlife, and what I have found out about it in the time
I've been walking around.

Secondlife is an online "game" [using the term loosely] or a meeting 
place, similar to the old MUCKs which were like what they used to refer
to as text adventures [believe it or not, in the old 8-bit computer days
there were games which were nothing but text, telling you where you were
as you hit N S E W Forward and Backward to travel around... Never ending
story was such a game... yes the one based on the movie] except in a 
MUCK, there were online users who you could also stop and chat to if you
wished. Secondlife is exactly the same, but because we have faster 
machines now and faster modems, we can now make use of full blown 
graphics which look similar to the Harry Potter games by EA.

"The Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking"

While Glenny and I were in secondlife today, she was very keen to set up
a virtual hogwarts, and buy some land.

In theory this is quite an exciting idea.
Rather than having people use e-mails from yahoogroups, we could all be
meeting and having fun... but there are problems which get in the way of
this idea.

Costs... Once in secondlife, you have to pay for land...
a lot of land would be needed for Hogwarts when you think about it, the
area is quite large... in effect we'd need a large, mostly flat island.

Then we'd need to learn or build the castle, if payed for, it's cost way
more than we could afford, and it would take a lot of time to build.
I don't think many of us care to develop that sort of experience.

Then there would be avatars, which again would need to be payed for, or
made by someone among us with the expertise... the kids would need to be
composed of four house colours, be male and female, and different racial
characteristics.

The teachers would also need to be designed, plus associated characters.

(I thought character skins could possibly be ripped from the games and
re-designed a bit]

Now here's where things become worrying, should this thing work, does
Warners come along later and say "tut tut, please close this down or 
we'll send in our lawyers"? We would have to invent our own school,
in the end that would be better because we don't have to play a part,
we'd be ourselves.

Then, secondlife demands $10 a month.

Now while not horribly expensive, the problem is that secondlife, 
frankly is a very dull place. while I was in there I was happy to meet
the very sparse population, but what I noticed was that most of the 
shops, houses and things were completely empty...
although chairs were set out in various locations, designed as meeting
places, I saw almost nobody in any of them.

I get the feeling anyone trying secondlife for the first time, would
eventually think "are we having fun yet?" and leave.

It's a very dull place.

Now, if we were to crank up the numbers in our HP scenario, perhaps
it would work, but I have HUGE doubts, especially with the phenomenon
now waning as it winds down, and as many readers have noted, it has
lost it's fun as it's become darker.. I think people would gradually
leave and perhaps one person would end up left with the monthly bill.
and then the whole lot would just end up being deleted.

Furrymuck was exactly the same, there were buildings everywhere but
it was mostly the park which had anyone actually talking... so I
left.

The other thing which is a problem, is lag.
Lag occurs because your computer isn't really driving the characters 
live... you press the up button, and it may take a few seconds for
your character to react... this causes me to run into walls a lot :)
This means a virtual quiddich match would be impossible...
But we could certainly fly around [rather unsteadily] on broomsticks.

I would assume this problem doesn't exist if you have a very fast 
broadband connection... mine is 512/128.

I have nothing against secondlife, it's very interesting, but I don't
think it's as fun as it could be, and I feel that too much effort and
expenditure could end up completely wasted.

However I am keen to get friends over there, simply because in this 
case, the more the merrier, and it's a different way to use the internet.

I think the system has a lot of good intentions so please give it a
shot, even if you leave after a day or so.

Wolfie!



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 20 14:55:11 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:55:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <44BF9272.4070806@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <002501c6ac0c$809744a0$66a4a8c0@rosie>

Don't think this would interest me.  More visual than I care to play with,
for one thing, and I'm poor enough that my $10 a month would rather pay our
mortgage and absurd property taxes than put into something which might end
up being a bust for another.

Thanks anyway, friend.

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jul 20 16:10:31 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:10:31 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <002501c6ac0c$809744a0$66a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <002501c6ac0c$809744a0$66a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44BFAAF7.4060201@internode.on.net>

(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> Don't think this would interest me.  More visual than I care to play with,
> for one thing, and I'm poor enough that my $10 a month would rather pay our
> mortgage and absurd property taxes than put into something which might end
> up being a bust for another.
> 
> Thanks anyway, friend.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
However you only pay the money if you own land.
otherwise it's free to just walk around.

Wolfie!



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jul 20 16:36:20 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:36:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <44BFAAF7.4060201@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c6ac1a$a1670bd0$66a4a8c0@rosie>

[Wolfie]:
| Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
| However you only pay the money if you own land.
| otherwise it's free to just walk around.

[Lee]:
Still, not blind-user friendly, I'm thinking.  Lot of graphics and
mouse-movement stuff...no keyboard interaction and screen-reader feedback.
Probably uses a form of flash which is as useful as Hagrid's rock cakes.
<Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 20 16:42:40 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:42:40 -0000
Subject: Interesting In-And Outpatient Attendances at Hogwarts Infirmary
In-Reply-To: <20060720104531.4060.qmail@web53207.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e9obq0+hloc@eGroups.com>

Hey Maria!  No problem!
No need to be sorry, happens all the time.  Links get broken or don't 
work for strange reasons, that's why I tried to help. 
Thanks for posting it!  It's always nice when folks share these 
interesting Potter items.  Welcome to the group!  I hope you have fun 
here.
Belinda

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Maria Vaerewijck 
<maria8162001 at ...> wrote:
>
> maria8162001:
>    
>   Thank you, Belinda for correcting and posting the correct link, 
sorry for that. Sorry everyone, I checked my post before I posted it 
but still I didn't noticed that I put the "l" instead of "1". Thanks, 
I'll checked my post properly next time.
>    
>   maria8162001 who's so sorry for making a mistake on the link I 
gave.
> 







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 20 23:31:28 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:31:28 -0000
Subject: New stamps for the Royal Mail
Message-ID: <e9p3og+83bi@eGroups.com>

Some of you may be interested in this link, which will take you to the
Oxford Dictionary of National Biography's page honoring the people
selected whose portraits will be featured on the Royal Mail's new
first-class stamps. Clicking the stamps will take you to the ODNB
biography for that person.

Several of the honorees are British writers: Shakespeare, of course,
along with T. S. Eliot, Virginia Woolf, and Sir Walter Scott. Other
famous people on the stamps include Churchill and Darwin.

Here's the link:

http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/freeodnb/readingroom/stamps/

No living people are featured, so the richest woman in England isn't
included. Still, I thought some of you might be interested,
particularly if you like England and the English. Or make that Britain
and the British.

Carol, who isn't British but loves British literature and history 







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 20 23:55:10 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:55:10 -0000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <e90ua7+8uue@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e9p54u+ct0a@eGroups.com>

bboyminn:
> 
> Well, here's the thing, the Weasley's aren't poor, they are just
> normal. I mean can you honestly say that you or any other person in
> this group can and would give your kids each and every little thing
> their hearts desired? Can you spell 'spoiled rotten'?
> 
> The Weasleys are working class like many of the working class people
I live with in small town America. They are able to provide for the
basic needs of their families, and they are able to do so nicely, but
excess and extravagances are kept to an absolute minimum. They have
money, they just don't have money to burn.
> 
> Have you ever seen a Weasley go hungry? I don't think so. Mrs.
Weasley seems to serve up a huge feast at every meal. Just feeding
that brood must cost a fortune. 
> 
> Everyone in the Weasley family has every thing the /need/; food,
> shelter, clothing, education, etc. Just because Ron can't have
> everything he /wants/ doesn't mean he is poor. Remember the most of
> Ron's griping about being poor is in response to either Harry or
Draco who, relatively speaking are rich by comparison. 
> 
> So, the real problem in not that the Weasleys seem poor, but that
they are not rich and therefore able to endulge every extravagant whim
of their children. From a moral and ethical perspective, that is, from
> the perspective of building healthy, humain, ethical children, it is
> better to be slightly poor than to be extravagantly rich. 
> 
> Just one man's perspective.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>
Carol responds:
I agree that the Weasleys aren't poor (except by Ron's definition--he
reminds me of my sister when she was a teenager), but I wouldn't call
them "working class." Arthur's job is definitely white collar, not
unskilled or even skilled labor. I'd say they were lower-middle class.

Also, another poster mentioned tuition, but tuition is never mentioned
in the books. Dumbledore tells young Tom Riddle that there's a fund
for people who can't afford books and school supplies. If Tom needed
to pay tuition, surely DD would have mentioned that, too.

Re the Weasleys' expenses, growing their own food (at least the fruit
and vegetables) would help cut food costs, and having three robes for
everyday wear (to paraphrase Harry's first Hogwarts letter) would
certainly cut down on money for clothes. No need to worry about the
latest fashions. Evidently, unlike many Muggles their age, the young
witches and wizards aren't even interested in shoes!

As for shelter, I get the feeling that their house is old and paid
for, maybe inherited from Arthur's father if he's the oldest son. (I'm
only guessing here, of course.)

Carol, wishing she could magically cool her apartment instead of
paying a hundred-dollar electric bill in the summer months







From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jul 21 03:10:36 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:10:36 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <000d01c6ac1a$a1670bd0$66a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <000d01c6ac1a$a1670bd0$66a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44C045AC.4010400@internode.on.net>

(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> [Wolfie]:
> | Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
> | However you only pay the money if you own land.
> | otherwise it's free to just walk around.
> 
> [Lee]:
> Still, not blind-user friendly, I'm thinking.  Lot of graphics and
> mouse-movement stuff...no keyboard interaction and screen-reader feedback.
> Probably uses a form of flash which is as useful as Hagrid's rock cakes.
> <Grin>

No, it definately isn't flash...
it's like the harry potter games from EA.

A 3D world where you can walk into the background and around things.

It's quite nice, but still a bit clunky in some respects, mostly
because of the lag.

I would imagine a blind friendly area could be constructed... it would
go along the lines of the old MUCKs which are just text anyway.

In some cases though, sometimes I think chatting on yahoogroups is
enough.

I met a lot of really friendly people there, but also a few rude ones
who considered themselves to be too sexy to speak to the likes of me.

Oh well, their loss.

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 21 05:18:56 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:18:56 -0000
Subject: Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <44BF9272.4070806@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e9po40+bpq9@eGroups.com>

Hey Wolfie:

I don't really understand secondlife.  I get the part about paying 
10.00 a month. Is that per person or just one payments for the group?

As to WB, as long as it were a fan site and not a for profit site it 
would probably be OK. Mugglenet, Leaky and the Lexicon can do it 
because they don't make a profit. So I guess it would depend on how 
much money was involved and who payed who for what.

I don't understand the buying land and building. It sounds like real 
life. And if this is the case, it also sounds like a rip off. 

Can you explain more, and the cost?

Tonks_op







From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jul 21 05:54:43 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:54:43 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Seconondlife - the pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <e9po40+bpq9@eGroups.com>
References: <e9po40+bpq9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44C06C23.6060001@internode.on.net>

Tonks wrote:
> Hey Wolfie:
> 
> I don't really understand secondlife.  I get the part about paying 
> 10.00 a month. Is that per person or just one payments for the group?

For the group

> As to WB, as long as it were a fan site and not a for profit site it 
> would probably be OK. Mugglenet, Leaky and the Lexicon can do it 
> because they don't make a profit. So I guess it would depend on how 
> much money was involved and who payed who for what.

Yes thats true... but look at it this way JKR said there are other 
schools in ireland, the us, australia etc... we could do one of those. :)

> I don't understand the buying land and building. It sounds like real 
> life. And if this is the case, it also sounds like a rip off. 

Well, the company offers land... but this takes up space on their
hard drives, in effect you're really paying for hard drive space.

> Can you explain more, and the cost?

See the secondlife website for details, I don't know enough yet.

Wolfie!



From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 21 19:59:13 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:59:13 -0000
Subject: Why were the Weasleys poor?
In-Reply-To: <e9p54u+ct0a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e9rbmh+e45i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> bboyminn:
> > 
> > Well, here's the thing, the Weasley's aren't poor, they are just
> > normal. ...
> > 
> > The Weasleys are working class like many of the working class 
> > people I live with in small town America. ...
> > 
> > Just one man's perspective.
> > 
> > Steve/bboyminn
> >

> Carol responds:
> I agree that the Weasleys aren't poor ..., but I wouldn't call
> them "working class." Arthur's job is definitely white collar, 
> not unskilled or even skilled labor. I'd say they were lower-
> middle class.
> 
> ...edited...
> Carol, ...

bboyminn:

Yes, of course you are correct. When I said 'working class', I was
referring to income not social status. They earn a 'working class'
level income regardless of how the earn it or the skills needed to
acquire it.

Though, I might put them at slightly below 'lower-middle class'.
Again, 'middle class' to some extent implies skilled labor. So
upper-lower class might be a better fit. They certainly don't have a
house the matches any vision of a 'lower-middle class' house, and I
suspect that there clothing (etc...) don't really match lower-middle
class either. 

Keep in mind that in the area I live in, a bulk of the people are
factory workers. They earn a sufficient income to provide the basics
and a few fun things for their families, and all but the poorest find
a way to get their kids into college if the want to go. The Weasley's
appear to be near or below this group in terms of income. Also, keep
in mind that Gringotts is probably not giving out credit cards like
they were candy on Holloween. They seem to be living in a 'all-cash'
society.

They are stuggling, but not dangerously so. Again, they have every
thing they need, even though some of that 'everything' is a little
weathered and worn. In my mind, that puts them in the lower economic
class. 

As far as social class, Arthur seems to be respected, perhaps even
admired by most of his co-worked and the other citizens of the wizard
world. He does get social respect. Of course, that is with the
exception of a few Pure-Blood Bigots, but there is just no pleasing them.

Still we agree on the central point that the Weasley's aren't
necessarily 'poor', they are simply 'not rich'.

Steve/bboyminn






From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 22 07:03:14 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 07:03:14 -0000
Subject: clothing again
In-Reply-To: <44BC8F68.3040305@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e9siji+mtd7@eGroups.com>

Well, I might recomend "coldwater creek"....they are the only pop 
chain I know of that still sells those sorts of trousers...(not the 
same but similar...in many different colors and a few styles!!)

DD






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 23 00:21:01 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:21:01 -0000
Subject: I'm a what? A Birthday Elf?
Message-ID: <e9ufdd+f3k6@eGroups.com>

Well, apparently not a very good one, judging by how long it's been 
since I posted any birthday greetings here on OTC. 

*shuffles feet and looks at the floor*

It went like this. I missed a birthday. Then I got busy and missed a 
couple more. Then I just felt so bad and guilty that I could get back 
to it. Anyone ever have a similar experience?

*hides red, embarrassed face*

The worst of it, for me, is that I really *do* like being the 
Birthday Elf and I've disappointed some of you.

Does this mean I'm coming back to do birthday greetings?

Indeed it does. I have to work tomorrow and I'm going to be away at 
Lumos for the next week and a bit (I leave in about 27 hours), so I'm 
going to do 2 birthday posts. I'll do the first tonight, throwing a 
party for everyone who's gone disappointed since my last birthday 
post. The second I'll do tomorrow, so everyone who celebrates while 
I'm away will have a nice, newly decorated room to party in.

I'm very sorry to have fallen down on the job (again!).

Sheryll the Birthday Elf






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 23 00:38:23 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:38:23 -0000
Subject: Many, many belated birthday wishes and one for today!
Message-ID: <e9ugdv+6b10@eGroups.com>

*scurries about, streamers flying and confetti swirling, putting 
final touches on the newly decorated room*

Wow, that's the fasted I've ever decorated a room! You won't believe 
the cobwebs and dust bunnies I had to get rid of before I could start!

There's food coming, but the most important thing is letting you all 
know who's special days we missed celebrating. They are:

June 13  Theresa   ANMSMOM333 at cox.net
June 17  Samantha  potionsgurl at theburrow.org
June 21  Carolina  silmariel at telfonica.net
         Amanda    oodaday at yahoo.co.uk
June 25  Boggles   boggles at earthlink.net
June 28  Poppywannab/Jen  rxtlc at comcast.net
         heather lass  explodingoatmeal at yahoo.com
July 2   Amanda    editor at texas.net
July 3   Pip/Pip!Squeak  pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk
         Debbie    elfundeb at comcast.net
         Rebecca   GypseeLynn at yahoo.com
July 6   Jen       Foxydoxy1 at yahoo.com
July 10  mohammedi  violettaprimrose at hotmail.com
July 12  Anne Urbanski  anneu53714 at yahoo.com
July 13  Sarah     plungy116 at aol.com
July 18  Marita    maritajan at yahoo.com
July 19  Cristina  crisina_angelo at yahoo.com
July 20  Aggie     aggie at raggie.freeserve.co.uk

And, last but not least, today's birthday honouree is 
Anne/Silverthorne  silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net

I hope all of you had magical, wonderful, spectacular days of fun, 
food, good company and HP goodness!

*disappears and comes back pulling a string of trolleys, laden with 
snacks, sandwiches, beverages and many tall cakes*

Think this will hold us for a while? :)

Sheryll the Birthday Elf






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 23 03:49:21 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:49:21 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I'm a what? A Birthday Elf?
In-Reply-To: <e9ufdd+f3k6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6ae0a$fb810340$69a4a8c0@rosie>

<Lee hugs Birthday Elf!>

I has an idea...and if the Sirs and Misses don't like it they can shut my
ears in the oven door, iron my fingers, step on my toenails and make me wear
*Clothes*!

Perhaps if we do one rip-roaring, bang-up celebration a week for all those
with Birthdays in that week...or in the week to come, our Birthday Elf might
be able to breathe a little easier with less worry about ironed fingers. :-)

The tricksy is do we celebrate for the Birthdays in the week to come so they
get their parties early, or celebrate the week that was so the honourees get
a last Birthday fling?

Like I say, this is just an idea, and I will now shut myself in the closet
and peak through the crack in the door to see what happens.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 23 22:54:21 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:54:21 -0000
Subject: I'm a what? A Birthday Elf?
In-Reply-To: <000601c6ae0a$fb810340$69a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <ea0umt+lfu4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> <Lee hugs Birthday Elf!>
> 
> I has an idea...and if the Sirs and Misses don't like it they can 
shut my
> ears in the oven door, iron my fingers, step on my toenails and 
make me wear
> *Clothes*!
> 
> Perhaps if we do one rip-roaring, bang-up celebration a week for 
all those
> with Birthdays in that week...or in the week to come, our Birthday 
Elf might
> be able to breathe a little easier with less worry about ironed 
fingers. :-)
> 
> The tricksy is do we celebrate for the Birthdays in the week to 
come so they
> get their parties early, or celebrate the week that was so the 
honourees get
> a last Birthday fling?
> 
> Like I say, this is just an idea, and I will now shut myself in the 
closet
> and peak through the crack in the door to see what happens.
> 
Sheryll:

There will be no ironing of anything or handing out of clothes around 
here. It's an interesting idea and I will ponder over it while I'm at 
Lumos (leaving in 4 hours!!). 

It's definitely a good idea for times I am away. And it's something I 
would consider doing if I know I have a really heavy work schedule 
coming it. 

Thanks for the suggestion, Lee!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 23 23:13:11 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:13:11 -0000
Subject: Birthday Wishes for the upcoming week (give or take a few days)!
Message-ID: <ea0vq7+m3ed@eGroups.com>

*surveys the room with satisfaction*

This much mess from yesterday's party means everyone had a good time, 
right? Don't mind me, I'll just tidy up a bit and re-decorate.

*whizzes around the room, sweeping, mopping, dusting, straightening 
and tidying*

Anyone see the new boxes of decorations? Over there? Thank you!

*pulls out a new supply of streamers and balloons and sets to work*

There, that ought to do the trick for us!

Birthdays to be celebrated while I'm away include the following 
lovely list members:

July 24  Lady McBeth  mcdee1980 at yahoo.com
July 25  Meg          mdemeran at hotmail.com
         pgr          azakitpgr at yahoo.co.uk
July 28  Nox          silverdragon001 at bigpond.com
July 29  Stacey Mateo staceymateo at gmail.com
         Tonks_op     tonks_op at yahoo.com
July 30  Christian Stubo  pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no
July 31  Melody       mu_nu_mu at hotmail.com
Don't forget JKR and Harry also celebrate on this day!
Aug  1   Wendy        here_be_dragons at earthlink.net
Aug  2   Astra        astratrf at aol.com
         Katrina (patnkat2)  patnkatng at cox.net

Birthday owls can be sent to the addresses provided or directly to 
this list.

I hope all of you have magical, fun-filled days that bring everything 
you hoped for!

What, you think I'm leaving now? Not quite yet, there's still 
something to take care of first.

*scurries out and returns with the food trolleys*

Don't worry, these have been magically set to replenish themselves 
while I'm gone, providing a constant supply of food, drink and 
towering birthday cakes! 

You didn't really think I'd forget the food, did you? ;)

Have a lovely celebration, everyone!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, off to finish the last minute packing







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 23 23:59:03 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:59:03 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I'm a what? A Birthday Elf?
In-Reply-To: <ea0umt+lfu4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6aeb3$f978a450$69a4a8c0@rosie>

[Sheryll]:
| There will be no ironing of anything or handing out of clothes around 
| here. It's an interesting idea and I will ponder over it while I'm at 
| Lumos (leaving in 4 hours!!). 
| 
| It's definitely a good idea for times I am away. And it's something I 
| would consider doing if I know I have a really heavy work schedule 
| coming it. 
| 
| Thanks for the suggestion, Lee!

[Lee]:
<Creeps out of closet.>

Oh--you're mostest welcome!  It's just that I know how tough things can get
especially when someone starts playing with time-turners and time goes all
woggle-womp.  This might just trick them time-turners. :-)

Have a great trip and enjoy the week!

Lee (Happy not to have to face iron, oven or clothes!)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From felix_quinn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 24 17:06:55 2006
From: felix_quinn at yahoo.com (felix_quinn)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:06:55 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter fanfic
Message-ID: <ea2unf+n4gn@eGroups.com>

I don't know how many of you have seen this perversion of nature, but 
I'd love to see some of the reactions. 
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/1/ I'm pretty sure it's a 
carefully crafted satire (at least, I hope to God that there isn't 
this much stupid in the world) but either way me and my friend howled 
for literally hours reading this. 









From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jul 24 06:23:57 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:23:57 +0200
Subject: I'm a what? A Birthday Elf?
In-Reply-To: <000601c6ae0a$fb810340$69a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <e9ufdd+f3k6@eGroups.com>
 <000601c6ae0a$fb810340$69a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <44C4839D0200007800000132@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>

Hey I really like that idea.  How our birth day elf manages to remember all the birth days is beyond me.

Cairie

>>> "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at arrl.net>
2006-07-23 05:49 >>>
<Lee hugs Birthday Elf!>

I has an idea...and if the Sirs and Misses don't like it they can shut
my
ears in the oven door, iron my fingers, step on my toenails and make me
wear
*Clothes*!

Perhaps if we do one rip-roaring, bang-up celebration a week for all
those
with Birthdays in that week...or in the week to come, our Birthday Elf
might
be able to breathe a little easier with less worry about ironed
fingers. :-)

The tricksy is do we celebrate for the Birthdays in the week to come so
they
get their parties early, or celebrate the week that was so the
honourees get
a last Birthday fling?

Like I say, this is just an idea, and I will now shut myself in the
closet
and peak through the crack in the door to see what happens.

Cheers,

Lee :-)






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Tue Jul 25 18:52:23 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:52:23 -0400
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
Message-ID: <1a2738400607251152x250e87b9yc37bbd2d1f27c200@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.investor.reuters.com/Article.aspx?docid=9782&target=%2f%2fcompanyoftheday

I tested out the theory today by calling to cancel** and AOL 'says' I
have the free plan and the website's billing reflects I'm on the
"$0.00" plan... But what cracks me up, when accessing bill.aol.com, is
this: "Price Plan: cleint only"

*Cleint*?  I could be wrong but I think it should be 'client'. {g}

Basically, you give up all dial-up (I'm already on broadband with
included dial-up, so no biggie) and all live/tech support (I didn't
know AOL even had support ;-) ).  However, I've heard there is an
inconsistency in if your plan setup will allow accessing via AOL
software or not.  Since I use webmail, again no biggie but I'd be
curious to test the theory when I get home.

**Ironically, the AOL CSR 'guided' me by saying something along the
lines of 'if you don't get the free service plan, you'll cancel,
correct' and I'm like 'yes' because he also (read between the lines)
said he couldn't offer the plan *unless* I was calling to cancel.
Since I called less than thirty days ago to cancel (at that point they
offered me $4.95 to stay), I wasn't in the default group to be offered
this, however, the CSR told his manager I'd cancel if I didn't get the
free plan because he had to override my account.

Hm, if it's free, guess I can't use cancellation to lower my billing.

Dina



From jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  Tue Jul 25 21:02:27 2006
From: jamiesonwolf at gmail.com (Jamieson Villeneuve)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:02:27 -0400
Subject: CROWSWOLF PRESS
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630607251402p514a9c56m6a43a24055b93da2@mail.gmail.com>

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Format: Trade Paperback

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http://crowswolf.tripod.com/crowswolfpress/


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From seuferer at netins.net  Wed Jul 26 16:52:58 2006
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:52:58 -0000
Subject: Blogathon Snape Fanfic This weekend
Message-ID: <ea86la+6rec@eGroups.com>


If this is not okay, I hope one of the admins will please delete without
banning me from the community! I normally just harmlessly lurk here, and
have for ages.

My very dearest online friend is doing the Blogathon this weekend, and
her charity is Association for International Cancer Research. Her blog
will be a Harry Potter Fanfic ? in ? progress. It will be
COMPLETE by the end of the blogathon, so you don't have to worry
about being left `hanging' on yet another WIP! (grin)

What the Blogathon is, is an online charity event where participants
choose the charity they want to support, seek sponsors, and then commit
to `blogging' for twenty-four-hours, in which they have to post
in their blog at least once every half hour.

In this case, my friend is going to make her `blog' a Harry
Potter fanfic in progress. The rating of this fic will not go above
PG-13, since the Blogathon is a multi-ages event. It will have Snupin
(Snape/Lupin) as one of its core pairings. (Though not its only pairing,
it will not be entirely slash, and will not have a rating exceeding
PG-13 due to the multi-ages event.)

So, for those of you who are able and willing and do that sort of stuff,
please consider sponsoring her.

Even if you can't sponsor her, please come to read and play with her
while she and her partner blog for these 24 hours ? having
`company' helps make those wee morning hours ? especially
those last four or five hours ? not seem quite so interminable.
There will be trivia questions and prizes and all sorts of fun stuff in
addition to the fanfic, all Harry Potter related.

There are all sorts of prizes for sponsoring, including getting to add a
challenge for them to work into the fic at the $5 sponsor level all the
way up to a $25 Amazon Gift certificate for sponsoring at the $50 level!
Whee! If you want to have your challenge worked into the fic, you need
to sponsor and submit your challenge before `hour 16', which
would occur at 12 midnight on Saturday night, Central-Standard-Time, so
they have plenty of time to work it into the story.

This is a really great cause, and a fun thing to do - not to mention it
will be really fun to watch a fanfic-in-progress!

The Blogathon is this weekend, starting at 8:00 a.m. Saturday Morning,
July 29th, and they will be posting every half hour through to Sunday at
8:00 a.m. Central-Standard-Time.

Here are the links:

The main Blogathon site and information: http://www.blogathon.org
<http://www.blogathon.org/>

Her Blog and complete prize information can be found here:
http://blogathon.esoteric-renaissance.com/
<http://blogathon.esoteric-renaissance.com/>  --this will also have the
link where you can sponsor her.

The Association for International Cancer Research Website is here:
http://www.aicr.org.uk <http://www.aicr.org.uk/>

And for the record ? from an admittedly not unbiased source, this
friend, JL is a brilliant writer. I've known and role-played with
her for years ? she plays Remus at our Live Journal game, `Fiery
Inception', where I play Snape. It will very definitely be a fanfic
worth reading! For samples of her writing style, you can look at these:

Remus' personal journal at the game: http://m4moony.livejournal.com/
<http://m4moony.livejournal.com/>

Game entries where Remus has been involved:
http://community.livejournal.com/fiery_inception/tag/remus+lupin
<http://community.livejournal.com/fiery_inception/tag/remus+lupin>

I hope you guys will check it out and sponsor her if you are so
inspired!!

Shanti
Fiery Inception http://community.livejournal.com/fiery_inception/profile
<http://community.livejournal.com/fiery_inception/profile>
Snape's Journal http://subtle-simmer.livejournal.com/profile
<http://subtle-simmer.livejournal.com/profile>




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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Wed Jul 26 17:02:52 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:02:52 EDT
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
Message-ID: <266.e02ecc5.31f8fa3c@aol.com>

Thanks, Diane! I was already on a reduced rate account but this fits my  
budget MUCH better. 
 
---Mary


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Wed Jul 26 17:48:01 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:48:01 EDT
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
Message-ID: <bcc.151df0c.31f904d1@aol.com>

This is just a follow-up to my previous message. To get the free account,  
you have to call 1 888 265-8003. 
 
The online billing support people can't offer the free deal. The best they  
can do $10.95 a month with unlimited broadband and 10 hours of dial up
 
While I have accounts with lots of services, AOL was the online playground  
for my kids and ended up being our "family and fun" service. 
 
Thanks again, Diane!
 
---Mary


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 26 19:58:14 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:58:14 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <bcc.151df0c.31f904d1@aol.com>
References: <bcc.151df0c.31f904d1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607261258p5342142en2d50b901f001dacb@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/26/06, Mhochberg at aol.com <Mhochberg at aol.com> wrote:
> This is just a follow-up to my previous message. To get the free account,
> you have to call 1 888 265-8003.
>
> The online billing support people can't offer the free deal. The best they
> can do $10.95 a month with unlimited broadband and 10 hours of dial up

Nah, you gotta speak with the cancellation department.  They're the
only ones who can offer the free option so far.  Either change my
account to free or I cancel because I already have broadband
connection... and many of us have heard the 'horror' stories about how
it's very difficult to cancel.  I was amused when AOL asked a 30+ year
old guy he needed his parent's permission to cancel. LOL!

> Thanks again, Diane!

Amuses me on seeing my name misspelled this way and it happens
frequently. {g}  I had corresponded with a Diana in the past and
nearly spelled my name as such because I had her name on my mind.
Reminded me of this.

Dina



From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jul 27 18:00:55 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:00:55 EDT
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
Message-ID: <53d.14950b00.31fa5957@aol.com>

Sorry, Dina. I also have an online friend named Diana so I am not  surprised 
I misspelled yours. 
 
I've had the AOL account for over 17 years, since before there was a  WWW.  
Of course, back then I also had accounts on CompuServe and The  Source too. 
Back then the AOL account was great when traveling and as  a kiddie playground. 
 
There was a real difference between the services too, in terms of what each  
offered. For a short time, you go only go to a business's site if you belonged 
 to the company (AOL or CIS) that they had signed up with. Eventually,  
though, businesses created their own web sites and it didn't matter who  your ISP 
was. 
 
It is funny to see how things change then cycle back and cycle again. At  one 
point, having an aol.com email that was a "real name without numbers" was  
cool, then dangerous, then dorky, cool again and heaven knows what it is  today. 
Whatever, it will change again tomorrow.
 
The same thing happened with my CIS "name" ---73447.1253. For a while it  was 
ordinary, then geeky, then antiquated. By the time I finally dropped  
CompuServe (after 16+ years), it was the mark of a Internet "elder." <shaking  head>
 
---Mary
 
 


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From harryp at stararcher.com  Thu Jul 27 19:47:45 2006
From: harryp at stararcher.com (ecaplan_52556)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:47:45 -0000
Subject: The most horrible thought of all
Message-ID: <eab591+lp10@eGroups.com>

Eddie:
I just had the most horrible thought of all about Book 7: we may not
get all of our questions answered.








From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 20:51:02 2006
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:51:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The most horrible thought of all
In-Reply-To: <eab591+lp10@eGroups.com>
References: <eab591+lp10@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0607271351t6b3ad2b4t84ff3022c4c02125@mail.gmail.com>

> Eddie:
> I just had the most horrible thought of all about Book 7: we may not
> get all of our questions answered.

That's a terrible and likely truthful thought. :)

I find that, generally, the more a writer tries to tie up all the
loose ends, the more spectacularly he fails.  It's a coming-of-age
story; to tie up every loose end would be an enormous feat achievable
only by writing a book thousands of pages long, and even then, it
wouldn't be perfect.  Sadly, it's the nature of these types of books
to leave certain details hanging loose; I don't doubt, though, that
the major issues, as JKR sees them, will be nicely finished.  Take
heart in that.

~Ali



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 21:29:12 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:29:12 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <53d.14950b00.31fa5957@aol.com>
References: <53d.14950b00.31fa5957@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607271429s5259a989m78b84b4e2ef0a345@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/27/06, Mhochberg at aol.com <Mhochberg at aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry, Dina. I also have an online friend named Diana so I am not  surprised
> I misspelled yours.

No prob. {g}  Like I said, I nearly misspelled my name while
corresponding with a Diana in the past. ;-)


> I've had the AOL account for over 17 years, since before there was a  WWW.
> Of course, back then I also had accounts on CompuServe and The  Source too.
> Back then the AOL account was great when traveling and as  a kiddie playground.

I remember CompuServe and those number IDs.  May not be as much of a
'net 'veteran' as others such as yourself but a decade online does
accrue some history. {g}

Hm, mailing lists such as this could be a dying thing too.  Folks are
moving over to LiveJournal, which really makes it a pain in the butt
to keep up with *group* conversations.  There's also forums but I've
ranted on the pros and cons of each form of communication.  I'd be
both curious *and* worried about what the new internet trend will be
as things head for 'real time' (dunno how far in the future for
'virtual reality' interactive interface to be more household).

Oh, and if you're uncomfortable with calling to cancel, Bloomberg
posted this today, "Time Warner May Approve Free-AOL Plan, Person
Says":
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=avm7ydah02i0&refer=us

Dina



From joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 28 18:58:06 2006
From: joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net (Joe)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:58:06 -0000
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607271429s5259a989m78b84b4e2ef0a345@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eadmnu+fgb7@eGroups.com>

Dina and Mary,

I came to this thread late and am a little confused. Are you talking 
about AOL giving free dial-up accounts, or broadband accounts, or just 
an email account that you would access through another Internet 
Service Provider?

Thanks,

Joe







From Mhochberg at aol.com  Fri Jul 28 19:12:15 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mary)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:12:15 -0000
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400607271429s5259a989m78b84b4e2ef0a345@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eadnif+e8h1@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at ...>
wrote:
> Hm, mailing lists such as this could be a dying thing too. Folks are
> moving over to LiveJournal, which really makes it a pain in the butt
> to keep up with *group* conversations. There's also forums but I've
> ranted on the pros and cons of each form of communication. I'd be
> both curious *and* worried about what the new internet trend will be
> as things head for 'real time' (dunno how far in the future for
> 'virtual reality' interactive interface to be more household).


That was a concern on the CompuServe forums too, ten years ago. There
are real advantages to reading everything in one place (my mailbox) and
at my convenience.










From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jul 29 01:23:19 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:23:19 -0400
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <eadmnu+fgb7@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400607271429s5259a989m78b84b4e2ef0a345@mail.gmail.com>
	 <eadmnu+fgb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400607281823p333f5522td3b307acef629c05@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/28/06, Joe <joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I came to this thread late and am a little confused. Are you talking
> about AOL giving free dial-up accounts, or broadband accounts, or just
> an email account that you would access through another Internet
> Service Provider?

If you already have a broadband connection, AOL is changing its BYOA
(Bring Your Own Access) to free, relying on advertising revenue.
Cancellation is the only department so far offering this
'experimental' plan.  The lowest paid plan is BYOA without dial-up,
which costs $4.95 per month, and is another cancellation department
special offer--fortunately, it sounded like I got reps located in
North America (versus India in Asia).  Depending on the rep you get,
you definitely get to keep your email/webpage/AIM accounts for free
and you *may* retain access to AOL software forums, except the
'opinions' forum.  For those with kids into the AOL forums, this is
good.

I'd like to keep my 'vanity plates'. ;-)  Not every day you get an AIM
message from someone who keeps *insisting* you're their niece because
only she has the name of 'redina'. {chuckle}

Dina



From thekrenz at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 29 04:03:30 2006
From: thekrenz at yahoo.com (thekrenz)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:03:30 -0000
Subject: Way, way  OT..Pirates of the Carribean 2
Message-ID: <eaemmi+inp6@eGroups.com>

OK, so this relates to HP in no way,shape or form, but I did a 
cursory 
search for a POTC group and found nothing useful.  
SPOILER SPACE IF NEEDED.
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..

(That probably wasn't necessary, but I don't want to ruin anyone's 
fun)
Here is my question:  I know that in POTC 1 the curse was broken for 
all the crew memebers of the Black Pearl.  So this means they are no 
longer imortal, right?  So way is the monkey still imortal in POTC 
2?!  My husband and I have seen the movie twice and can find no 
reasonable explaination.  So, anyone who has a theory or a definate 
answer, please clue me in!
Thanks for reading....

Cyndi (sailing back into lurkdom)






From queen_amidalachic at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 29 13:35:27 2006
From: queen_amidalachic at yahoo.com (Maria)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:35:27 -0000
Subject: HP Art
Message-ID: <eafo6v+1080n@eGroups.com>

Title: I Dream
Artist: teawithvoldy
Rating: G
Characters: Little Hermione, Ron and Harry.
Warnings: none
Medium: Cg and sketch.
http://teawithvoldy.livejournal.com/216709.html 







From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 29 15:52:43 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:52:43 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP Art
In-Reply-To: <eafo6v+1080n@eGroups.com>
References: <eafo6v+1080n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44CB844B.8060008@internode.on.net>

Pretty much sums up our feelings

Wolfie!



From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Sat Jul 29 17:16:25 2006
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:16:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Way, way  OT..Pirates of the Carribean 2
In-Reply-To: <eaemmi+inp6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <020601c6b332$b8b9aa30$6400a8c0@zippywoo>

(top-posting to preserve spoiler space below)
When you watch POTC1, do you keep watching through to the end of the closing
credits?  The answer is there.  :-)
 
***
Tammy Rizzo
ms-tamany at rcn.com
 

  _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of thekrenz
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:04 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Way, way OT..Pirates of the Carribean 2



OK, so this relates to HP in no way,shape or form, but I did a 
cursory 
search for a POTC group and found nothing useful. 
SPOILER SPACE IF NEEDED.
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..
..
,,
..

(That probably wasn't necessary, but I don't want to ruin anyone's 
fun)
Here is my question: I know that in POTC 1 the curse was broken for 
all the crew memebers of the Black Pearl. So this means they are no 
longer imortal, right? So way is the monkey still imortal in POTC 
2?! My husband and I have seen the movie twice and can find no 
reasonable explaination. So, anyone who has a theory or a definate 
answer, please clue me in!
Thanks for reading....

Cyndi (sailing back into lurkdom)


.
 
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714&grpId=2766527&grpspId=1602544108&msgId
=30474&stime=1154145829&nc1=3848616&nc2=3848429&nc3=3848539> 
 


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Jul 30 02:32:32 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mary)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:32:32 -0000
Subject: For AOL masochists, AOL is going for broke with free accounts
In-Reply-To: <eadmnu+fgb7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eah5o0+tu6j@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <joemurphyus at ...> wrote:
>
> I came to this thread late and am a little confused. Are you talking
> about AOL giving free dial-up accounts, or broadband accounts, or just
> an email account that you would access through another Internet
> Service Provider?


Hi, Joe,

This is for broadband accounts only. You can keep using AOL software,
including the safety and security center (anti-virus, anti-spy,
firewall, etc) and all the basic AOL services for free. You give up a
dial-up connection or phone help.

---Mary









From heidi8 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 31 17:49:53 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:49:53 -0700
Subject: Correction re FA meetup on August 2
Message-ID: <1154368199.1168A32E@dj11.dngr.org>

  At 4:30 on August 2, FictionAlley will be hosting a meetup at Iguana's 
(<a href="http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/7143865">read more 
here</a>) at 240 W. 54th Street (not 55th street as I mistakenly posted 
earlier), just a few blocks from, Radio City.

We'll walk over to Radio City at a little before six, so we can get 
inside and settled in good time.

We're going to have wristbands and the new celphone eGrips for you to 
purchase in support of FictionAlley's Katie O'Brien Scholarship 
Fundraiser, and there will be chips & salsa provided for all. You can 
also order other snacks, drinks or even dinner for yourself and enjoy it 
at our tables.

RSVP-ing isn't required, but it is appreciated. Please post here or on 
FA if you're coming, and if you're bringing extra people, just let us 
know. You don't have to be going to the JKR reading either - if you're 
in NY and want to join us, just RSVP and we'll be thrilled to see you!