From jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  Thu Jun  1 00:31:32 2006
From: jamiesonwolf at gmail.com (Jamieson Villeneuve)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:31:32 -0400
Subject: WOLF'S PICKS
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630605311731v4ea11addtf7730991299e9228@mail.gmail.com>

  Hey Everyone!


Announcing WOLF'S PICKS--Books With Bite

I have always been a lover of books. Any book will do: fantasy, science
fiction, regular fiction, romances, children's' books. I can never get
enough of books or of reading. Books, and reading, are what inspired me to
write and to become a writer.

I've been wanting to find a book club that I could be a part of for a long
time. I've always loved the idea of book clubs; people getting together to
talk and have dialogues all inspired by books. The sharing of ideas, the
sharing of character motivation. All of this fascinates me.

However, I could never find a book club I wanted to be part of or they
weren't accepting new members. So I figured, why not start my own? I figured
doing a book club online would be a wonderful way to meet new people, read
new books and discover new authors.

The advantages of having a book club online are endless. We can meet at any
time, from anywhere; any time of the day from any place in cyberspace.

And thus, WOLF'S PICKS was born. Having already published a slew of book
reviews, I figured a book club was the next logical step.

WOLF'S PICKS--Books With Bite will discuss anything and everything. Fantasy
to memoirs, fiction to children's books. Romances to thrillers; all sorts of
books from a variety of authors. For variety is the spice of life.

 Feel free to join up at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfspicks/ I'll be
taking book suggestions for a week and then we'll do a poll to find out what
we're going to read first!

So, are you ready? Pick up a good book, grab a cuppa tea (or coffee if
that's your thing) and pull up a chair. I've got some muffins in the oven
and they'll be ready in a minute or two.


Happy Reading!

Wolf


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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  1 04:06:11 2006
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:06:11 -0000
Subject: Dragon
Message-ID: <e5lp3j+bv3q@eGroups.com>

Hi Guys, I'm looking for a picture of a good or cute dragon, I want to 
get a tatoo of one, but I don't want a traditional one, like the angry 
bad ass dragon. I 've been looking for a picture of the small dragon 
figurines in the GoF Movie that the champions took out of the bag to 
decide who'd be fighting which dragons. Anyone know where I can get 
the screen caps? Or any other dragon. I specially like celtic dragons, 
but all i've seen look so mad... I'm like Hagrid, I believe dragons 
can be sweet creatures. Any help would be great. You can email me 
directly at jlnbtr at yahoo.com or just here.

Thanks

Juli






From bumbledor at comcast.net  Thu Jun  1 07:52:42 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 03:52:42 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
References: <e5lp3j+bv3q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008501c68550$5cecab90$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>

Try looking at the dragons on the cover of any of the "Dragon Riders of 
Pern" books. They look kinda cute.

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To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:06 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon


> Hi Guys, I'm looking for a picture of a good or cute dragon, I want to
> get a tatoo of one, but I don't want a traditional one, like the angry
> bad ass dragon. I 've been looking for a picture of the small dragon
> figurines in the GoF Movie that the champions took out of the bag to
> decide who'd be fighting which dragons. Anyone know where I can get
> the screen caps? Or any other dragon. I specially like celtic dragons,
> but all i've seen look so mad... I'm like Hagrid, I believe dragons
> can be sweet creatures. Any help would be great. You can email me
> directly at jlnbtr at yahoo.com or just here.
>
> Thanks
>
> Juli
>
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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jun  1 09:19:39 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 05:19:39 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
In-Reply-To: <e5lp3j+bv3q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6855c$84979590$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Look for Ann McCaffrey's Pern books; there should be illustrations of
dragons there...nice, kindly, empathic and telepathic dragons.  Start with
"Dragons Dawn," and if that doesn't do it, "Dragon Quest" or "Dragon
Flight."  I think Flight was the first in the series, but chronologically,
Dawn is.

Good luck!

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From silmariel at telefonica.net  Thu Jun  1 11:07:42 2006
From: silmariel at telefonica.net (silmariel)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:07:42 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
In-Reply-To: <000001c6855c$84979590$65a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <000001c6855c$84979590$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <200606011307.42076.silmariel@telefonica.net>


Or take a tour in elfwood <elfwood.lysator.liu.se> and search for dragons, 
they have some... original.

'Mountain Dragons' by Patrick Woodroffe are cute. I've got them in a calendar, 
but maybe they can be found in his home page www.patrickwoodroffe-world.com

Silmariel



From swartell at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  1 11:07:36 2006
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
In-Reply-To: <000001c6855c$84979590$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <20060601110736.92310.qmail@web53212.mail.yahoo.com>



Dover Publications also have several books of dragon
illustrations - all kinds of dragons.  You might also
take a look on Amazon.com or your favorite online book
source for other images of dragons for craftspeople. 
I think there are some more cute and cuddly type
dragons in the Dragons and Wizards book put out by
Dover, but don't have time to search right now.   You
can also search the Web, of course, but actually using
anything you find there would raise copyright
questions.  I've done that for inspiration, though,
taking a style of head from one place and a general
pose from another, and  looking for various ways to
mount wings on the body, or articulate them.

Sue 

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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  1 12:40:21 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
In-Reply-To: <20060601110736.92310.qmail@web53212.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060601124021.19477.qmail@web51602.mail.yahoo.com>



Sue Wartell <swartell at yahoo.com> wrote:  

... snip ...   You
can also search the Web, of course, but actually using
anything you find there would raise copyright
questions.  I've done that for inspiration, though,
taking a style of head from one place and a general
pose from another, and  looking for various ways to
mount wings on the body, or articulate them.  Kemper now:
  I don't think owners of copyrights care if their characters end up being tatoos:
  because its free publicity/advertisement;
  because there are so many people with various Warner Brother and/or Disney cartoon characters that the American public would have heard of any litigation done on the grip of people with a Tazmanian Devil inked somewhere on their person.
   
  kemper, ink-free
   
  
 
   
   
   

		
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From swartell at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  1 14:25:01 2006
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dragon
In-Reply-To: <20060601124021.19477.qmail@web51602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060601142501.70229.qmail@web53212.mail.yahoo.com>

--- kemper mentor <kempermentor at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Sue Wartell <swartell at yahoo.com> wrote:  
> 
> ... snip ...   You
> can also search the Web, of course, but actually
> using
> anything you find there would raise copyright
> questions. \  Kemper
> now:
>   I don't think owners of copyrights care if their
> characters end up being tatoos:
<snip>
> the American public would have heard of any
> litigation done on the grip of people with a
> Tazmanian Devil inked somewhere on their person.
>    
>   kemper, ink-free

 I really wasn't thinking about legal ramifications,
but of ethical ones.  

I do suppose a one-off copy for a tatoo might be
defended as "fair use".  I also strongly suspect that
Taz et al. are licensed images (although I am speaking
out of absolute ignorance about tattoos and their
application) - anyway, it would probably be the tattoo
artist who would get in trouble with the legal folks
for offering the tattoo design, rather than the person
sporting the tattoo.  Note how paranoid copy shops are
about copying images.  I very nearly could not get a
photograph I had taken myself scanned at a copy shop. 
The fact that I held the copyright didn't make the
least difference to them - if it was a copyrighted
image they would NOT copy it.  We eventually
compromised and I scanned it myself.

Disney for certain can go after very small businesses
which use the likenesses of their characters without
permission.  There was a tiny drive-up ice cream place
near where I live which had a couple Disney characters
painted on the side of their building.  They were
required to remove them.  Often the bigger company
needs only to threaten legal action to get the smaller
one to give in to their demands.

Intellectual property rights are enough to give anyone
a headache, in my opinion.  I'm sorry I included the
comment.

Sue

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Thu Jun  1 18:35:46 2006
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah Leigh ...)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:35:46 -0000
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling
Message-ID: <e5nc22+66dt@eGroups.com>

I have posted an editted scan of the letter sent to me by Jo in the 
photos section of the group.  You can read it if you click on 'large'.
I thought long and hard about sharing a personal letter, but decided 
that by editting the private bits and only sharing the stuff you lot 
would be interested in, Jo (my new best friend!!) wouldn't mind.  In 
fact, I think she would actually encourage sharing any Harry Potter 
info.  I just couldn't resist asking about Snape being DDM either, but 
she gives a typically enigmatic and teasing response ...
Anyway, have a look if you're interested.
Sarah xx






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun  2 02:19:43 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:19:43 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Letter from J K Rowling
In-Reply-To: <e5nc22+66dt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c685eb$0370f120$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Unfortunately, a photo scan wouldn't do me any good. :-(  No text.

Cheers,

Lee :-)




From coverton at netscape.com  Fri Jun  2 06:05:23 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 01:05:23 -0500
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling
In-Reply-To: <000001c685eb$0370f120$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <000001c6860a$8fc7aaa0$97ac81ac@Overton>

Lee:
> Unfortunately, a photo scan wouldn't do me any good. :-(  No text.

Hi My name is Corey, Are you blind? The reason I asked is cause You 
said that a photo scan wouldn't do any good. Or is it something to 
do with your computer. Just wondering. Your friend, Corey





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 14:01:47 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:01:47 -0400
Subject: *gasp* Perils of fan fiction archiving
Message-ID: <1a2738400606020701s5cbcd06cn2b60e21549134e4a@mail.gmail.com>

I don't ask for money or donations to pay for a fan fiction archive's
webhosting... but OMG, I got webhost notification I exceeded bandwidth
by 40gigs (my allocation is 20gigs)... and then I went back through
the site's bandwidth history, and for over a year and a half, the site
has been exceeding bandwidth by 20-45gigs.  Uh oh.  I had gotten
notification in 2004 for bandwidth but I upgraded to 20gigs that year
and the notifications stopped.  I thought the site was small, which by
other archives it is, but my webhost charges $2/extra gig.  Uh oh!
That's like $80-90 more than my usual monthly $18.

{sigh} Time to go looking for a new webhost.  I already 'bartered' for
the extra bandwidth by giving up 500megs of my space to take the
bandwidth allocation up to 20gigs.  I remembered trying to barter for
more bandwidth but the UK host (a highly recommended webhost but price
also reflects this) couldn't do it.  I'm only using 150megs in space
now.  So, I'm estimating 250megs space and at least 75gigs bandwidth
for the new host.  I've got a host in mind but it's the relocation
part that's a pain in the butt.

Ugh!

For a 'small' archive (~3,000 fics), it's turning into a costly bugger.

Dina



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun  2 14:44:08 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:44:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE:  Letter from J K Rowling
In-Reply-To: <000001c6860a$8fc7aaa0$97ac81ac@Overton>
Message-ID: <000601c68653$0139ca90$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[Corey]:
| Hi My name is Corey, Are you blind? The reason I asked is cause You 
| said that a photo scan wouldn't do any good. Or is it something to 
| do with your computer. Just wondering. Your friend, Corey

[Lee]:
Hi Corey,

Yes, I am blind and reliant on a text-to-speech screenreader.  Text is our
friend; Graphics are the "bad guys," so to speak. <SMiling>

If you have any questions, write me off list and we can talk all we want.
:-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)
n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
n2fgc at optonline.net (or)
mlee.n2fgc at gmail.com
Skype: Lady_ChocoLee




From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Fri Jun  2 07:08:37 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:08:37 +0200
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling
Message-ID: <s480000e.059@gwia.resbank.co.za>



Hi Corey

My name is Cairie and  I'm a blind person.  I presume that Lee is blind as well and we can only read documents and books in text form.  I would like to read that letter and If at all possible I'd like to write to J K Rowling myself.

If you want to, you can write to me personally at: cairie.witter at resbank.co.za

Thanks very much

Cairie


>>> coverton at netscape.com 2006-06-02 08:05 >>>
Lee:
> Unfortunately, a photo scan wouldn't do me any good. :-(  No text.

Hi My name is Corey, Are you blind? The reason I asked is cause You
said that a photo scan wouldn't do any good. Or is it something to
do with your computer. Just wondering. Your friend, Corey




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  2 17:35:49 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:35:49 -0000
Subject: *gasp* Perils of fan fiction archiving
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606020701s5cbcd06cn2b60e21549134e4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e5pstl+oogi@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at ...>
wrote:
>
> I don't ask for money or donations to pay for a fan fiction
> archive's webhosting... but OMG, I got webhost notification I 
> exceeded bandwidth by 40gigs (my allocation is 20gigs)... and
> then I went back through the site's bandwidth history, and for 
> over a year and a half, the site has been exceeding bandwidth 
> by 20-45gigs. ...edited...
> 
> For a 'small' archive (~3,000 fics), it's turning into a costly 
> bugger.
> 
> Dina
>

bboyminn:

Here is something you might want to think about, I have a small
website that I couldn't believe that many people we looking at, but I
was constantly using my bandwidth allocation in a matter of a few days
(it reset every month). It turned out that several other websites were
using my website as a server for photos I have stored. 

In other words, they would create their own webpages on their own
websites, but when a picture was displayed, it was linked to on my
website.

Are their any photos or files that other websites might be using on
you Site? 

One thing you can do is keep track of the history statistics that
track who has accessed your website, and you might discover that one
or two users are stealing all the bandwidth.

Also, to maintain a real non-profit website, you can count on spending
at least US$100 per year. I'm told it cost something like $120,000/yr
to keep the Leaky Cauldron up and running.

Just a thought.







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  2 18:03:45 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:03:45 -0000
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <s480000e.059@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <e5pui1+4ukt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cairie Witter"
<Cairie.Witter at ...> wrote:

> 
> Hi Corey
> 
> My name is Cairie and  I'm a blind person.  I presume that Lee is
blind as well and we can only read documents and books in text form. 
I would like to read that letter and If at all possible I'd like to
write to J K Rowling myself.
> 
> If you want to, you can write to me personally at: cairie.witter at ...
> 
> Thanks very much
> 
> Cairie
> 

bboyminn:

Hopefully Sarah won't mind since she has actually posted the letter,
but I will give a visual description of the letter for those who are
using text readers. If Sarah truly does object, email me and I will
remove this post.

---------------------

Top of the Letter:

Large Signature by J. K. Rowlings.

A small monochromatic owl centered on the page.

It appears that the signature and owl are part of the Letterhead.

To the right, above the body of the letter is a hand written date: 

19th May 2006

Body of the Letter:

Dear Sarah,

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter, which made my morning!
Feel free to wander in and out of my universe as much as you like.
That's what it's for!

(note: personal section of the letter is blanked out)

Can't tell you anything about Snape except that You Will Find Out.

(note: the first letter of each word of 'You Will Find Out' is
capitalized)

Long may you stay strong, sane and beautifully healthy, and thank you
again for writing.

(note: the last word is a little unclear, but 'writing' seems to make
sense)

End of the Letter:

Best Wishes,

Hand Written Signature:

J. K. Rowling (Jo!)

(note: the signature consists of J. K. Rowling followed by Joe in
parenthesis with an exclaimation point. I'm not really sure how a text
reader handles parenthesis.)

The letter then closes with J. K. Rowling typed under the signature.

It is a very short, but none the less, touching letter.

Steve/bboyminn








From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  2 18:12:45 2006
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:12:45 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <e5pui1+4ukt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1FmE8i-0004Db-Mq@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

bboyminn:

Hopefully Sarah won't mind since she has actually posted the letter, but I
will give a visual description of the letter for those who are using text
readers. If Sarah truly does object, email me and I will remove this post.


Sherry now:

Steve, thank you for doing that.  I too use a screen reader and was dying of
curiosity to know what the JKR letter said!  I have found since I joined the
HPFGU groups, that everyone is always so helpful at describing things or
helping with info from Jo's web site that is sometimes inaccessible, even to
voting in polls for me.  I just want to say a public thanks to everyone.
and thanks again Steve for telling us what the letter said!

sherry




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 18:40:47 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:40:47 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: *gasp* Perils of fan fiction archiving
In-Reply-To: <e5pstl+oogi@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400606020701s5cbcd06cn2b60e21549134e4a@mail.gmail.com>
	 <e5pstl+oogi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606021140s20c4e543vd24a1d8bfde0d807@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/2/06, Steve <bboyminn at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at ...>
> wrote:

> Are their any photos or files that other websites might be using on
> you Site?

Very unlikely.  It's just an image title graphic and background image,
which are both fairly small in byte size.  Silverbloom has probably
20-25 graphics accessed across the entire domain with most tied into
site skins.  No vids are hosted there.

My first site has the multimedia archive (vids galore, images, etc.)
and... believe it or not, I don't know what my bandwidth allocation is
because I've been with that webhost for a decade.  Their
pricing/packaging structure has changed but I'm okay with the pricing
I've had for years.  The site has had excellent uptime and the current
packages are offering hundreds of gigs for bandwidth.


> One thing you can do is keep track of the history statistics that
> track who has accessed your website, and you might discover that one
> or two users are stealing all the bandwidth.

It's mainly a fiction archive and I'm not against folks linking to
pages and like I said... highly doubt anyone would be interested in
the cheezy graphics. {g}


> Also, to maintain a real non-profit website, you can count on spending
> at least US$100 per year. I'm told it cost something like $120,000/yr
> to keep the Leaky Cauldron up and running.

Ugh, the UK host replied back and quoted me $60/month for 250megs
webspace and 80gigs bandwidth. {shakes head} No can do, so gotta move.
 Well, I've got to support two people on a $20,000 annual income and
*no way* can I allocate more than $500/year for website expenses.
Currently, I pay ~$33/month between two webhosts, not including domain
renewals.

Oh yeah, I heard about the larger site expenses! {whistles}  I know
AFF.net once mentioned $200-250/month.  Ouch!

Dina



From coverton at netscape.com  Fri Jun  2 18:42:32 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:42:32 -0500
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling
In-Reply-To: <000601c68653$0139ca90$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <000001c68674$554e7010$a4e184ac@Overton>

Hi its Corey, How come you have so many email addresses? Isn't one
enough? Wich email address do you check the most? It seems like your
gmail address is the easiest to maybe remember. Or If I have to I could
just try writing to you at each address. But I'd rather not do that. So
If you could give me that info that would be great. My email address is
coverton at netscape.com Your friend, Corey



-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of (Mrs.) Lee Storm
(God is the Healing Force)
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:44 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: Letter from J K Rowling


[Corey]:
| Hi My name is Corey, Are you blind? The reason I asked is cause You
| said that a photo scan wouldn't do any good. Or is it something to 
| do with your computer. Just wondering. Your friend, Corey

[Lee]:
Hi Corey,

Yes, I am blind and reliant on a text-to-speech screenreader.  Text is
our friend; Graphics are the "bad guys," so to speak. <SMiling>

If you have any questions, write me off list and we can talk all we
want.
:-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)
n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
n2fgc at optonline.net (or)
mlee.n2fgc at gmail.com
Skype: Lady_ChocoLee




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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun  2 19:05:38 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:05:38 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <e5pui1+4ukt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c68677$89722ff0$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[bboyminn]:
<Lovely descrip of letter...snipped>
| I'm not really sure how a text
| reader handles parenthesis.)

[Lee]:
That depends on how you have it set.  It can be set to read all punctuation,
math punctuation, misc punctuation or marks that are defined in a dictionary
only situation.  Personallly, I prefer as little punctuation in my straight
document reading as possible; it often detracts from the flow.  But I can
always use my arrow keys to find out exact punctuation.

Thanks again, Steve, for all of us with visual challenges. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From coverton at netscape.com  Fri Jun  2 18:47:12 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:47:12 -0500
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling
In-Reply-To: <s480000e.059@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <000101c68674$fc0badf0$a4e184ac@Overton>

I'd be more than happy too. Could youemail me so I'll have your email
address? My email address is coverton at netscape.comYour friend, Corey



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[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cairie Witter
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 2:09 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: Letter from J K Rowling




Hi Corey

My name is Cairie and  I'm a blind person.  I presume that Lee is blind
as well and we can only read documents and books in text form.  I would
like to read that letter and If at all possible I'd like to write to J K
Rowling myself.

If you want to, you can write to me personally at:
cairie.witter at resbank.co.za

Thanks very much

Cairie


>>> coverton at netscape.com 2006-06-02 08:05 >>>
Lee:
> Unfortunately, a photo scan wouldn't do me any good. :-(  No text.

Hi My name is Corey, Are you blind? The reason I asked is cause You said
that a photo scan wouldn't do any good. Or is it something to do with
your computer. Just wondering. Your friend, Corey




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From chnc1024 at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  2 19:49:24 2006
From: chnc1024 at earthlink.net (Chancie Parmley)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:49:24 -0700
Subject: Baby name UPDATE
Message-ID: <410-22006652194924421@earthlink.net>

Chancie:

Some of you may remember that a while back I 
had asked for help in deciding on a girl's name 
for our baby.  Well as it turns out, a girl's name
really wasn't necessary, since we found out were
DEFINITELY having a little boy.  Thanks to every
one who voted in our name poll, we plan to use
the winning name the next time around if we have
another girl.  The name we decided on for our 
little boy is Johnathon Mitchell (this from my 
grandfather who passed- we were very close)
Vaden (this is my husbands middle name, we'd
always had the agreement that our first son would
have this name) so our little guys going to have
quite a long name, but so does his dad. Ok,
well that's all I really have to say, thanks again
to everyone who voted in our poll!!!

Chancie

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Fri Jun  2 19:58:14 2006
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah Leigh ...)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:58:14 -0000
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <e5pui1+4ukt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e5q58m+s36b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
> 
> Hopefully Sarah won't mind since she has actually posted the letter,
> but I will give a visual description of the letter for those who are
> using text readers. If Sarah truly does object, email me and I will
> remove this post.


Don't mind at all, thanks for doing the description.  I posted it to 
share it and you have facilitated that sharing.  I suppose I take so 
many things for granted, that I don't automatically think of how others 
are actually going to access things.  I apologise for this oversight.  
And yes, Steve, the last word is 'writing'.
So now you've all seen it/read it ... Isn't she just great?
And what do you think she means by capitalising the statement about 
Snape - curiouser and curiouser.
Sarah xx







From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  2 20:07:21 2006
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:07:21 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <e5q58m+s36b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1FmFvd-0007bP-EL@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sarah:
Don't mind at all, thanks for doing the description.  I posted it to share
it and you have facilitated that sharing.  I suppose I take so many things
for granted, that I don't automatically think of how others are actually
going to access things.  I apologise for this oversight.  


Sherry:
Don't apologize, Sarah.  Few people would know that a scanned image of a
letter isn't accessible for a screen reader.  After all, it's a letter,
text.  But the screen reader sees a scanned image as an image, not text, so
it can't read it.  No way you'd have known that unless you know people who
use the technology.  I'm just glad you wanted to share your letter with all
of us.  I'd like to write to Jo myself, come to think of it.


Sherry




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun  2 20:59:08 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:59:08 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <e5q58m+s36b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000401c68687$645cd430$65a4a8c0@rosie>

[Lady Sarah Leigh]:
| I suppose I take so 
| many things for granted, that I don't automatically think of 
| how others 
| are actually going to access things.  I apologise for this 

[Lee]:
No problem, Sarah. :-)  In fact, that's how *I* view things; I get so used
to doing things that I forget how the poor sighted folk have to work. <Grin>
You know...things like turning on lights, all that kind of stuff. :-)

Life is fun, ain't it? Answer: Yes!

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(presently trying to update two computers at once, read mail, and type and
chew gum....)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun  3 17:01:32 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:01:32 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <E1FmFvd-0007bP-EL@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1FmFvd-0007bP-EL@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4481C06C.80103@internode.on.net>

Hello everyone, it's Wolfie!
you might know me from Hogwarts-Greathall and Wolfiesden.
[I sounds like that guy on the simpsons]

Just dropped in to see this letter, it's great, thanks
for showing it :)

*woof*

My old story page has gone, but I'll be making a new one
soonish.

Wolfie!






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  3 16:48:30 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:48:30 -0000
Subject: Happy Belated Birthday, Stephanie!
Message-ID: <e5segu+pp9r@eGroups.com>

*hastily hangs streamers and blows up balloons*

Yes, I know I'm late! But, but, but... we're having a great party to 
make up for it?!

Thursday's birthday honouree was Stephanie (Sam). Belated birthday 
owls can be sent care of this list or directly to Stepanie at: 
sam2sar at charter.net

I hope your day was filled with fun, magic and brought everything you 
wished for!

Wait, we're missing something! Ah, yes, the necessary goodies for a 
party.

*disappears and comes back with sandwiches, drinks and a towering 
cake*

Much better. :)

Happy Birthday, Stephanie!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, who now has her own computer back







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  3 16:54:08 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:54:08 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Mecki!
Message-ID: <e5serg+i5c7@eGroups.com>

*surveys the decorations in the party room, doubting it needs tidying 
so soon*

Nope, everything looks good here. 

Um, wait, did you guys eat all those sandwiches already! Goodness, 
you'd think we never feed you around here. 

*exits and returns with a ever-replenishing tray of nibblies and 
another huge cake*

There, that ought to hold us for a while. :)

Today's birthday honouree is Mecki, who's been around HPFGU forever. 
Or at least as long as I have, I think. Birthday owls can be sent 
care of this list or directly to Mecki at: meckelburg at foni.net

I hope your day is filled with joy, magic and the company of good 
friends.

Happy Birthday, Mecki!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, who feels like she's been around *forever*







From jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  Sun Jun  4 01:43:49 2006
From: jamiesonwolf at gmail.com (Jamieson Villeneuve)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:43:49 -0400
Subject: My New Book
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630606031843k133187a2ua6b1a084c82cc4e9@mail.gmail.com>

Hey All,

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From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  4 18:03:08 2006
From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll)
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:03:08 -0000
Subject: HP Chat room - How to get it.
Message-ID: <e5v78s+680h@eGroups.com>

Hi,

The HP chat room doesn't exist... still.

Please IM (a.k.a. instant message) HPFGU_chat and you'll be added to 
the chat room.







From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jun  5 22:16:23 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:16:23 -0700
Subject: theory
In-Reply-To: <e5v78s+680h@eGroups.com>
References: <e5v78s+680h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4484AD37.7000405@internode.on.net>

I've been thinking about how the last book ends, and well,
how do you like this one.

Harry was in the car accident with his mum and dad...
he's in a coma at a normal hospital and his head hurts
because he was hurt badly in the crash but cannot wake
up.

Something after the fight with voldemort will bring him
to, but this also effectively means that harry will not
continue as a wizard, thus an end to all future stories.

His wicked Aunt and Uncle and are actually his parents...
before the crash they had been giving him a hard time,
and so Harry dreamt up his perfect family.

In actual fact they love him very much, though Dudley and
Harry do tend to fight like the *Brothers* they actually
are, they don't really hate each other.

Wolfie!



From bumbledor at comcast.net  Mon Jun  5 08:59:46 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 04:59:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP Chat room - How to get it.
References: <e5v78s+680h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001301c6887e$64b92570$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>

YES IT DOES EXIST!

Go to any chat room and in the chat text box type \join Harry Potter and you 
will get there.
They finally put the room in the listings, but it still won't go to the 
room.

Or are you talking about the HPFGU chat room?



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To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP Chat room - How to get it.


Hi,

The HP chat room doesn't exist... still.

Please IM (a.k.a. instant message) HPFGU_chat and you'll be added to
the chat room.







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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  5 14:49:00 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:49:00 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Angela!
Message-ID: <e61g8s+5scm@eGroups.com>

*putters about happily, blowing up balloons and hanging streamers*

Anyone up for a Monday morning party? I know I am. We just need one 
more thing to get started.

*exits briefly and returns with trays of sandwiches and an enormous 
cake*

There, that ought to do the trick. :)

Today's birthday honouree is Angela Burgess. Birthday owls can be 
sent care of this list or directly to Angela at: 
aburgess68 at comcast.net

I hope you day is magical and filled with fun, joy and the company of 
good friends.

Happy Birthday, Angela!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf






From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jun  5 05:59:28 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:59:28 +0200
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
Message-ID: <s483e45d.049@gwia.resbank.co.za>



Wow thanks for the explanation and the letter.  It's really great to have some one who doesn't mind describing some thing like that to you.

Cairie

>>> bboyminn at yahoo.com 2006-06-02 20:03 >>>
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cairie Witter"
<Cairie.Witter at ...> wrote:

>
> Hi Corey
>
> My name is Cairie and  I'm a blind person.  I presume that Lee is
blind as well and we can only read documents and books in text form.
I would like to read that letter and If at all possible I'd like to
write to J K Rowling myself.
>
> If you want to, you can write to me personally at: cairie.witter at ...
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Cairie
>

bboyminn:

Hopefully Sarah won't mind since she has actually posted the letter,
but I will give a visual description of the letter for those who are
using text readers. If Sarah truly does object, email me and I will
remove this post.

---------------------

Top of the Letter:

Large Signature by J. K. Rowlings.

A small monochromatic owl centered on the page.

It appears that the signature and owl are part of the Letterhead.

To the right, above the body of the letter is a hand written date:

19th May 2006

Body of the Letter:

Dear Sarah,

Thank you so much for your wonderful letter, which made my morning!
Feel free to wander in and out of my universe as much as you like.
That's what it's for!

(note: personal section of the letter is blanked out)

Can't tell you anything about Snape except that You Will Find Out.

(note: the first letter of each word of 'You Will Find Out' is
capitalized)

Long may you stay strong, sane and beautifully healthy, and thank you
again for writing.

(note: the last word is a little unclear, but 'writing' seems to make
sense)

End of the Letter:

Best Wishes,

Hand Written Signature:

J. K. Rowling (Jo!)

(note: the signature consists of J. K. Rowling followed by Joe in
parenthesis with an exclaimation point. I'm not really sure how a text
reader handles parenthesis.)

The letter then closes with J. K. Rowling typed under the signature.

It is a very short, but none the less, touching letter.

Steve/bboyminn







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From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jun  5 06:17:49 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:17:49 +0200
Subject: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
Message-ID: <s483e8a2.084@gwia.resbank.co.za>


Hey talking about lights, sometimes we forget that the lights are on and we could have them on for weeks till someone gets the courage to tell you that your lights have been on for weeks! [huge grin]  That happens to me quite a lot.  Sometimes living in a sighted world can be fun.  Just think about the different reactions you get.  Here in South Africa, most people don't know what to do when they meet someone with a disability. 

Cairie]

>>> n2fgc at arrl.net 2006-06-02 22:59 >>>
[Lee]:
No problem, Sarah. :-)  In fact, that's how *I* view things; I get so used to doing things that I forget how the poor sighted folk have to work. <Grin> You know...things like turning on lights, all that kind of stuff. :-)

Life is fun, ain't it? Answer: Yes!

Cheers,

Lee :-)






From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jun  6 09:14:35 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:14:35 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Letter from J K Rowling - for the Blind.
In-Reply-To: <s483e45d.049@gwia.resbank.co.za>
References: <s483e45d.049@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <4485477B.5070906@internode.on.net>

Not just for the blind either, the very small copy of the image
was very difficult to read, so I am also grateful for the help. :)

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 04:36:57 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 04:36:57 -0000
Subject: Changes to Yahoo group
Message-ID: <e630p9+vvco@eGroups.com>

Well I see that something has changed in the formating of the group 
post. Don't know it I like it yet. I wish people would just keep things 
the same. It is so anoying when something works OK, but they think that 
they have to charge it for the sake of changing it. I know that is what 
they tell you when you have a website.. you are to keep it fresh 
looking.  Well I like mine a bit old and wilted... like me. ;-)

Tonks






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 05:56:00 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:56:00 -0000
Subject: Changes to Yahoo group
In-Reply-To: <e630p9+vvco@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e635dg+mfn7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> Well I see that something has changed in the formating of the group 
> post. Don't know it I like it yet. 

Tonks:
To answer my own post...  it does seem that they fixed the search for 
old post. I may be wrong, but it seems easier to find something now. I 
find that difficult to believe... and once they see that it is true I 
am sure they will "fix" that!!  

Tonks_op






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 06:08:10 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:08:10 -0000
Subject: Changes to Yahoo group
In-Reply-To: <e635dg+mfn7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6364a+8670@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>

One more thing.. weird. Yahoo is using time turners. Or at least I feel 
like a person who is using one and seeing themself coming and going. It 
appears that when one makes a post it post at the top and also under 
itself where the replies are. 

Confused the hell out of me... I thought I had pushed the post button 
twice.  

Tonks






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 06:10:17 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:10:17 -0000
Subject: theory
In-Reply-To: <4484AD37.7000405@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e63689+fmgu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about how the last book ends, and well,
> how do you like this one.
> 
> Harry was in the car accident with his mum and dad...
> he's in a coma at a normal hospital and his head hurts
> because he was hurt badly in the crash but cannot wake
> up.
> 
> Something after the fight with voldemort will bring him
> to, but this also effectively means that harry will not
> continue as a wizard, thus an end to all future stories.
> 
> His wicked Aunt and Uncle and are actually his parents...
> before the crash they had been giving him a hard time,
> and so Harry dreamt up his perfect family.
> 
> In actual fact they love him very much, though Dudley and
> Harry do tend to fight like the *Brothers* they actually
> are, they don't really hate each other.
> 
> Wolfie!
>


A bit too much of Rosmerta's mead, me thinks...  ;-)

N.T.







From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jun  7 03:54:20 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:54:20 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: theory
In-Reply-To: <e63689+fmgu@eGroups.com>
References: <e63689+fmgu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44864DEC.207@internode.on.net>


> A bit too much of Rosmerta's mead, me thinks...  ;-)
> 
> N.T.

hrmm... it's not the only story to take this tack...
but then this could double in on itself too.

Maybe Harry would find his Doctor is Tom Riddle.

Wolfie!



From swartell at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 13:53:18 2006
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 06:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: theory
In-Reply-To: <44864DEC.207@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <20060606135318.79587.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>

I think JKR is more original than that - it's already
been done, to hoots of derision and howls of protest,
on Dallas and on St. Elsewhere (US TV shows).

It would kill any interest in sequels, though.

Sue

--- Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:

> 
> > A bit too much of Rosmerta's mead, me thinks... 
> ;-)
> > 
> > N.T.
> 
> hrmm... it's not the only story to take this tack...
> but then this could double in on itself too.
> 
> Maybe Harry would find his Doctor is Tom Riddle.
> 
> Wolfie!
> 


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From zgirnius at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  6 21:08:56 2006
From: zgirnius at yahoo.com (zgirnius)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:08:56 -0000
Subject: Changes to Yahoo group
In-Reply-To: <e6364a+8670@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e64qt8+3bd0@eGroups.com>

zgirnius:

Tonks, you are completely right about the search function, and I could 
sing and dance and have forgiven the nasty formatting changes that are 
giving me a headache too. (Why reverse the previous chronological 
order, *except* to give me a headache? OK, maybe they are trying to 
help prevent senility int he users. I hear rearranging hte furniture in 
one's house occasionally is supposed to help stave semility off as 
well...)

The search function has made a quantum leap. Using the new search, in 
advanced mode, I was able, in a matter of a couple seconds, to call up 
an old post I happen to recall from some 9 months ago. In the old days, 
you'd start the search, wait while the search went through some fixed 
(very small) number of posts starting form the most recent, and thenm 
waitird to be told you wanted to try the next batch back. Brrrrr.








From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Wed Jun  7 12:05:55 2006
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:05:55 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
Message-ID: <e66ff3+huj5@eGroups.com>

I couldn't find anything on the Web that clearly gave the correct 
pronunciation - is met-a-MORPH-may-gus, or met-a-morph-MAY-gus? - or 
something else? Those with access to Fry and Dale, please advice!

  - CMC 







From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun  8 05:23:36 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:23:36 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <e66ff3+huj5@eGroups.com>
References: <e66ff3+huj5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4487B458.6090609@internode.on.net>

Caius Marcius wrote:
> I couldn't find anything on the Web that clearly gave the correct 
> pronunciation - is met-a-MORPH-may-gus, or met-a-morph-MAY-gus? - or 
> something else? Those with access to Fry and Dale, please advice!
> 
>   - CMC 

Any new zealander would tell you the proper term is

Mit-a-merph-a-gis ;)

Wolfie!



From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  7 14:06:04 2006
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 07:06:04 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <e66ff3+huj5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1Fnyfi-0004he-28@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I couldn't find anything on the Web that clearly gave the correct
pronunciation - is met-a-MORPH-may-gus, or met-a-morph-MAY-gus? - or
something else? Those with access to Fry and Dale, please advice!

  - CMC 


Sherry now:

i just found it on my audio version of OOTP as read by Jim Dale.  he puts
the emphasis on the last M in the  part of the word, "magus", pronounces
that A like the o in long or John, or the word "ah" and uses a J sound for
the G.  Hmmm, not sure if I can type this so you can get the idea, but I'll
try.  Phonetic typing of how dale pronounces it

metimorphMahjus

Sherry




From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun  8 07:18:48 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:18:48 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <4487B458.6090609@internode.on.net>
References: <e66ff3+huj5@eGroups.com> <4487B458.6090609@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <4487CF58.2000106@internode.on.net>

Wolfie! wrote:
> Caius Marcius wrote:
>> I couldn't find anything on the Web that clearly gave the correct 
>> pronunciation - is met-a-MORPH-may-gus, or met-a-morph-MAY-gus? - or 
>> something else? Those with access to Fry and Dale, please advice!
>>
>>   - CMC 
> 
> Any new zealander would tell you the proper term is
> 
> Mit-a-merph-a-gis ;)

Erfff, bad wolfie, mucked it up.

Mit-a-merph-may-jis.

Better.

seriously....

Met-a-morph-may-jis

mage as in rage

the rage in mage stays mainly on the page

and again

the rage in mage stays mainly on the page

by george she's got it.

The Rage in Mage stays mainly in the PAGGGEEE!!!


Wolfie!



From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Wed Jun  7 15:12:26 2006
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:12:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My New Book
In-Reply-To: <5cb2ac630606031843k133187a2ua6b1a084c82cc4e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5cb2ac630606031843k133187a2ua6b1a084c82cc4e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d4a040d0606070812u2785be0cke62393834d3230b4@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/06, Jamieson Villeneuve <jamiesonwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hey All,
>
> Announcing Isis Publications first e-book! FINDING THE MUSE: *Learning to
> Write from Inspiration!*
>

Now Tonya,

GREAT BOOK!!  Thank you for sharing!!

I love it and recommend it.
Tonya


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  7 15:49:50 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:49:50 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <E1Fnyfi-0004he-28@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <e66siu+6hjb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
<sherriola at ...> wrote:
>
> Sherry now:
> 
> i just found it on my audio version of OOTP as read by Jim Dale.  
he puts
> the emphasis on the last M in the  part of the word, "magus", 
pronounces
> that A like the o in long or John, or the word "ah" and uses a J 
sound for
> the G.  Hmmm, not sure if I can type this so you can get the idea, 
but I'll
> try.  Phonetic typing of how dale pronounces it
> 
> metimorphMahjus
> 

Tonks:
I can't remember how he pronounces it and I know that I always try 
to put in an extra syllable. I think the key here is to remember 
that the last part is a form of wizard.. a sigular of Magi.. 
one 'Magus'.
go to Dictonary.com and look. I can't get all the little marks to 
come over when I cut and paste.

Tonks_op







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jun  8 06:19:06 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 02:19:06 -0400
Subject: Diet Coke and Mentos music video
Message-ID: <1a2738400606072319h69d3392ave9b015c708848e57@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Carolyn for sharing the link:

http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html

Musical fountains, indeed.  Nice shot at coordinating music.

Dina



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jun  8 14:57:12 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:57:12 -0400
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
Message-ID: <000f01c68b0b$d349ad40$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Okay, friends, :-)

And for the sixth or seventh time, I think, Art and I were listening to SS
and I wanted to ask this before I forgot again to ask: Can anyone tell me
what a "Peppermint Humbug" is?  I guess it must be some kind of sweet?

Needing to have my empty head filled. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From gromm at cards.lanck.net  Thu Jun  8 15:13:40 2006
From: gromm at cards.lanck.net (Maria Gromova)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:13:40 +0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food Question--before I forget again
References: <000f01c68b0b$d349ad40$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <00c501c68b0e$4e458620$b81d1154@maria>


>Lee writes:

> And for the sixth or seventh time, I think, Art and I were listening to SS
> and I wanted to ask this before I forgot again to ask: Can anyone tell me
> what a "Peppermint Humbug" is?  I guess it must be some kind of sweet?

Now Maria:

Well, a humbug is a mint candy. Appparently someone decided to improve the 
taste :) 




From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  8 18:09:37 2006
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:09:37 -0000
Subject: ? Flying Car ?
Message-ID: <e69p51+92fp@eGroups.com>

HI!     Does anyone here know anything about the Found or
Missing H P Flying car ? ? ?    Gail in NE IND






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jun  8 21:49:57 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:49:57 -0400
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
Message-ID: <1a2738400606081449tf531e7hd1249fd509d9917e@mail.gmail.com>

After way too many months of thinking 'do you want cheese with that
whine' about my mom--plus, I was seriously considering a second job
because my income wasn't enough--I took time out of work today to
schedule and attend a meeting with my mom at her lawyer's office.  She
rarely does such things by herself for fear she'd be taken advantage
because of her weak understanding of English.

As of Sept/Oct 2005, my dad lost the latest (he's on 3rd-4th try and
every judge has ruled he needs to continue paying) alimony case--judge
ruled he's qualified to find a good job as an engineer and to quit
being half-assed about job searching (basic gist of the ruling)--and
he's supposed to pay my mom $1,700/month.  He didn't send her anything
for a few months and then he called to say he found parttime work,
which I appreciate the gesture; however, he kept sending less than
$500/month for nearly half a year.  He's in contempt of court for over
$8,000.  My mom's lawyer says he owes that and legal fees and needs to
start paying the full amount or a lien will be held against his house.

Frankly, I didn't care about the past amount due or even the full
$1,700; I just needed him to pick up more of what the court ordered
him to send because I couldn't support two people on my income.  Heck,
if he didn't send that $500/month, I'd have been in debt up to my
eyeballs.  I don't want my dad to lose his home and I don't want my
mom to lose hers either... Oh yeah, I don't want to be homeless too!
The "critters" at the 'roach motel' would probably miss my place. {g}

I feel bad.  If my dad is *really* trying and can't find a better job,
I'd eat the $8,000+ of my savings.  I initially asked if there was a
way for my dad to send some sort of 'progress report' but the lawyer
said 'he owes the money, there is no progress report'.  My mom and dad
had a very messy divorce from a legal standpoint.

:-(

Heh, I got a wedding invitation today.  Life has a sense of irony.

Dina



From hallie at thephoenixrises.org  Fri Jun  9 01:04:07 2006
From: hallie at thephoenixrises.org (Hallie Tibbetts)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:04:07 -0000
Subject: Sing it again, Severus
Message-ID: <e6ahe7+kud4@eGroups.com>

Phoenix Rising, a Harry Potter conference to be held May 17-21, 2007,
in the French Quarter of New Orleans, has planned a special event for
attending volunteers and the first 300 conference registrants: the
Phoenix Rising Rhythm Revue! At this pre-conference gathering,
invitees can mingle, pick up their registration materials a day early,
enjoy Muggle karaoke, and more.

Since Harry Potter fans like a wide variety of music, we thought it
prudent to start collecting a suggested selection of tunes to have on
hand. After all, maybe you think that *this* song should be your house
anthem, or *that* song would be exactly the one that your favorite
character would choose (and you're planning to perform it in costume).

We're collecting your musical suggestions on our forums here, and
we're happy to have them from anyone and everyone:
http://www.thephoenixrises.org/forum/index.php?topic=34.0.

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

Hallie Tibbetts
Lead Event Organizer, Phoenix Rising
www.thephoenixrises.org








From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 05:01:11 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:01:11 -0000
Subject: HP Chat room - How to get it.
In-Reply-To: <e5v78s+680h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6avan+fek3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "yolandacarroll" 
<yolandacarroll at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> The HP chat room doesn't exist... still.
> 
> Please IM (a.k.a. instant message) HPFGU_chat and you'll be added to 
> the chat room.
>
sorry still doesn't work








From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 05:05:09 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:05:09 -0000
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606081449tf531e7hd1249fd509d9917e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6avi5+o6ho@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" 
<bunniqula at ...> wrote:
>
 He's in contempt of court for over
> $8,000.  My mom's lawyer says he owes that and legal fees and 
needs to start paying the full amount or a lien will be held against 
his house.
> 

Tonks:
I am not a lawyer so this is NOT legal advise. I don't know the real 
estate laws in your state. But where I live a lien of the type that 
you mention here will only affect your father if he ever sells his 
house. Then the lien will have to be paid. But like I said, it could 
be different where you are. Here only 2 things would cause someone 
to actually lose their house. One is being behind in the taxes and 
the other is being behind in the mortgage payments. Any other type 
of lien will only be a problem when and if the property is sold.

Tonks_op
an auror, not an attorney.







From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 05:08:36 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:08:36 -0000
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <000f01c68b0b$d349ad40$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <e6avok+881m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Okay, friends, :-)
> 
*snip*
Can anyone tell me what a "Peppermint Humbug" is?  I guess it must 
be some kind of sweet?
*snip*
> 
Doddie here:

A humbug is a brown candy with beige stripeds....tastes like 
chocolate mint and caramel...

The actual candy is brown with beige strips along the top..(hence 
the name as it looks somewhat like a sriped beetle--like a ladybug, 
but five to six times bigger but with brown and beige(tan) stripes). 
I hope this helps...

Me mum loved humbugs! LOL

Doddie







From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun  9 22:21:27 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:21:27 -0700
Subject: clean clean
In-Reply-To: <e6ahe7+kud4@eGroups.com>
References: <e6ahe7+kud4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4489F467.8080608@internode.on.net>

I've asked this before, not here, but...

There's one prefects bath that I know of at hogwarts,
but where does everyone else bathe or shower?

Wolfie!



From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 05:34:45 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:34:45 -0000
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606081449tf531e7hd1249fd509d9917e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6b19l+gqs0@eGroups.com>

First off, I must state...that tis better to live one's life OUTSIDE 
of a courtroom !

Secondly...fire the attorney immediately...yes, he will fight for 
you in court...but anything your father actually owes...will just go 
to the attorney...not to you or your mother!

I suggest you dump said attorney and go to your county's self help 
legal center. (it's free)
 
You should take that second job...the family court system is truely 
f'd up--even with an attorney--you'll still need that job..because 
EVEN if the COURT already ORDERED IT......it does not mean that 
those who are ordered to pay actually do so!!!!!(i.e. it will take a 
long, long, long. long time to get any monies)

Your biggest power is to excercise liens....this is what you'd be 
more beneficial to do rather than hiring an attorney!  Most folks in 
the universe cannot afford an attorney....and most rich folks keep 
one, or more, on staff...and at the very minimum...once a lien is in 
place said property cannot be sold...

I'm just horrified that your mom would tell you what's going 
on...I'd never tell my kids(ages 23 to 11).....they don't need the 
worry. I'd just tell my kids we don't have the money...to tell 
them,  would distract them for the real reason they are going to 
college/school...THEIR STUDIES!

And believe you me I know ALL about Child SUPPORT....not only does 
my husband pay $1000 per mo..for his Single NONCUSToDial son....but 
he also gets to pay Child support for the four kids we have custody 
of...sad yet very much true.

Doddiemoe

(not angry with you...just trying to show you a bigger picture.)







From bumbledor at comcast.net  Fri Jun  9 07:12:17 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 03:12:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] clean clean
References: <e6ahe7+kud4@eGroups.com> <4489F467.8080608@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <008f01c68b94$0ab91440$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] clean clean


I've asked this before, not here, but...

There's one prefects bath that I know of at hogwarts,
but where does everyone else bathe or shower?

Wolfie!

Well, I am guessing that most students use the ones in the dorm's.. I know 
theres restrooms on various floors throughtout Hogwarts, but it seems kinda 
a security risk to have students walking around the halls after cerfew, in 
their PJ's because they were out taking a shower or a bath.

Besides, if they were in "lockdown" as has occured many times, (stuck in 
their dorms), where would they go if they had to go potty? Theres got to be 
restrooms and bath/shower rooms in all the dorms.





From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun 10 02:10:03 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:10:03 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] clean clean
In-Reply-To: <008f01c68b94$0ab91440$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
References: <e6ahe7+kud4@eGroups.com> <4489F467.8080608@internode.on.net> <008f01c68b94$0ab91440$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
Message-ID: <448A29FB.6080906@internode.on.net>


> Besides, if they were in "lockdown" as has occured many times, (stuck in 
> their dorms), where would they go if they had to go potty? Theres got to be 
> restrooms and bath/shower rooms in all the dorms.

ahh yes, going to the dunny.

Well, Dumbledore was after a chamber pot, which led to the discovery of 
the room that was used for DA later.

I hope they could self-empty, awful things.

Wolfie!



From s_ings at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 13:39:41 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:39:41 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Melody!
Message-ID: <e6btmt+agve@eGroups.com>

*scurries about hanging streamers, blowing up balloons, generally 
making the party room look pretty*

What do you think, Melody, want some sparkly confetti in the air as 
well?

*ponders the big question and fails to come up with the answer*

Melody, what kind of cake do you want?

*irons fingers briefly for not establishing the answer to this when I 
met Melody last year* :D

Today's honouree is the delightful Melody, who joined in the HP fun 
with us in San Antonio last fall. Birthday owls can be sent care of 
this list or directly to: malady579 at hotmail.com

I hope your day is magical, filled with fun and spent with the ones 
you love.

Happy Birthday, Melody!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, who can't think of many people she'd rather 
share a birthday with :)







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 14:15:49 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:15:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <e6b19l+gqs0@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400606081449tf531e7hd1249fd509d9917e@mail.gmail.com>
	 <e6b19l+gqs0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606090715m4f5ce7bcieb4861a5b91b54f7@mail.gmail.com>

Tonks, thanks for your message!  I know my dad had his mortgage paid
off and ~$100,000 in investments toward the beginning of 2004 when
both sides had to document their assets.  However, between 2004-2005,
he paid the full alimony and both his and my mom's lawyers fees.

After round two or three approximately over a decade ago and after
suing a national law firm, eventually triggering its departure from
Florida, getting some lawyers disbarred, and shaking up Florida's
legal system a bit, my dad was awarded somewhere between
$650,000-750,000, but his lawyer took a *huge*, HUGE chunk of that.
So, I'm guessing she'd also take a good chunk of his money again.

Doddiemoe, I don't feel comfortable about the route my mom's lawyer is
taking but she's the one who hired him... which ironically, he knows
my boss very well (mentioned something about being friends at one
point) because they're both part of the Greek community here.  Small
world.

As to my mom telling me about legal matters, my mom actually tried
avoiding it when I was younger but my stepmom whipped out a copy of a
check, showing how much my mom and I, back when I was young for child
support, cost my dad and it all started back when I was 10-12 of no
longer keeping their issues to themselves.  Later, not in my dad's
presence, she told me she'd rather see all my dad's money burn than
for my mom to get a penny.  Once I was over twenty-five, I got pulled
further into their muck, complete with a subpoena from my dad's
lawyers and their investigating my financial status because I partly
aid my mom.

Just your average 'American' family as I was growing up. {chuckle}
It'd make for a cheesy Lifetime movie.  Oh yeah, complete with various
acquired disorders. {snort}  Ah, the teen angst years.  All things
considered, I've seen others have to survive worse and they're some
amazingly strong folk.

I was friends with a co-worker for years and she was stuck in an
*abusive* marriage.  Her husband raped her, made her strip off her
clothes and held a gun up to her, and she was one of the nicest people
I've met, a person people like right away.  She eventually 'weaned'
herself away because her husband was a Jamaican drug dealer and he had
'friends', deadly 'friends', and she feared for her life, her family,
who are tied into administrative for one of the largest international
ports in the US, and her children.  She's one of the strongest people
I personally know... and ironically, she was briefly engaged to my
sister's ex-husband years before.  Small world, again. {g}  She heard
passing references of me as a kid, long before we met to share The Job
from Hell.

Other than the parental worries and only being able to afford the
'roach motel' ;-) , I'm at an okay point in life.


On 6/9/06, doddiemoemoe <doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com> wrote:

> (not angry with you...just trying to show you a bigger picture.)

No prob, I understand.  Personally, I would rather not have any
details, other than they're divorced.  Period.

Everyone in this family has their issues (e.g. personal, medical,
financial, etc) they're working on having resolved.  Many families are
like this.

Dina



From coverton at netscape.com  Fri Jun  9 05:58:57 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 00:58:57 -0500
Subject: ? Flying Car ?
In-Reply-To: <e69p51+92fp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001701c68b89$cf813650$bbe496ac@Overton>

>> HI!     Does anyone here know anything about the Found or
Missing H P Flying car ? ? ?    Gail in NE IND <<

Corey here, As far as I know its still romeing the forbidon forest. 

Your fellow member, Corey





From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Fri Jun  9 06:00:40 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:00:40 +0200
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
Message-ID: <s4892aa1.040@gwia.resbank.co.za>

Now here is a question that I've been curious about for years.  We don't have these in South Africa, so what are M and MS.  Are they some kind of sweets or what?

Cairie

>>> gromm at cards.lanck.net 2006-06-08 17:13 >>>

>Lee writes:

> And for the sixth or seventh time, I think, Art and I were listening
> to SS and I wanted to ask this before I forgot again to ask: Can
> anyone tell me what a "Peppermint Humbug" is?  I guess it must be
> some kind of sweet?

Now Maria:

Well, a humbug is a mint candy. Appparently someone decided to improve the taste :)









From swartell at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 16:13:09 2006
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE:  ? Flying Car ?
In-Reply-To: <001701c68b89$cf813650$bbe496ac@Overton>
Message-ID: <20060609161309.39305.qmail@web53208.mail.yahoo.com>

Unless you mean the Ford Anglia that appeared in the
film - it was stolen last year some time, and has
since been found (earlier this year) in the car park
of some estate.  Details should be find-able on the
Leaky Cauldron site
(http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/).  You could also
google it, I suspect.

Sue  (happy to have some pertinent information)

--- Corey Overton <coverton at netscape.com> wrote:

> >> HI!     Does anyone here know anything about the
> Found or
> Missing H P Flying car ? ? ?    Gail in NE IND <<
> 
> Corey here, As far as I know its still romeing the
> forbidon forest. 
> 
> Your fellow member, Corey
> 
> 
> 


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 17:30:17 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:30:17 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Benefits of Divorce
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606091022m27aefa9bq2c44e0aca8b1cf1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fe85b44244101.44101fe85b442@southeast.rr.com>
	 <1a2738400606091022m27aefa9bq2c44e0aca8b1cf1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606091030u1a21d6a5p27b3b4659e55b92b@mail.gmail.com>

Ironically, Kaki's son is doing a paper on the effects of divorce,
both positive and negative, and she asked about the benefits of
divorce.  I posted this on another mailing list for her:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dina Lerret <bunniqula at gmail.com>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Benefits of Divorce

On 6/9/06, you wrote:
> Right now his paper reads as though he only hung out on major right-
> wing Christian conservative websites (and in the same section of the
> public library).
>
> Any ideas?

Hm, I just went with my mom to a divorce lawyer yesterday... and then
later in the day, I received a wedding invitation from a co-worker.

>From counsellors (to either keep your marriage or dissolve it) to
legal services, divorces have the opportunity to help the economy by
providing jobs... or forcing jobs onto folks.  For example, spouses
accustomed to sharing income may be required to find a new job.  Or
the splitting of assets requiring purchasing additional items/services
for their living.

Divorces have a wider impact outside the individuals and their
respective families, a trickle down effect of somebody's 'loss' being
another person's 'gain'.

A different POV from a gal with money and expenses frequently on her mind.

Or from a biological and genetic POV.  Generally, variety in genetics
has proven beneficial for humans.  Many societies, especially after
Bible scriptures, prefer a man to be married to one woman and where
marriage is often synonymous with monogamy.  Therefore, a person's
offspring would only have one partner to continue the genetic
mixture... Although, some folks probably shouldn't be allowed to
'breed' as evident by the infamous Darwin Awards.

Heh, Butterfly Effect, indeed.  Which, BTW, I saw that Ashton movie
and wasn't impressed. :-\

Dina



From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 18:22:38 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 18:22:38 -0000
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <s4892aa1.040@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <e6ce9e+a4br@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cairie Witter" 
<Cairie.Witter at ...> wrote:
>
> Now here is a question that I've been curious about for years.  We 
don't have these in South Africa, so what are M and MS.  Are they 
some kind of sweets or what?
> 
doddie here:

M&M's are candy coated chocolate balls... they can be plain milk 
chocolate, or contain a chocolate covered peanut (the two most 
popular), but they also have krispie one, white cholate, dark 
chocolate.  the candy shells come in different colors green, red, 
yellow, brown, orange, blue--I think they had tan color at one time 
and often have special promotional colors like black and white.

I believed they were developed sometime around WWII as a way 
of "packaging" the chocolate so that it wouldn't melt during the 
shipping as the hershey's candy bars so often did.

I think the British equivalent may be called smarties...

Here in the U.S. smarties are little, round, disc candys that are 
somewhat tart and come packaged in rolls.

Oh and I'll add one more U.S. vs U.K. candy comparison:  The U.K. 
Mars bar is the equivalent of the U.S. Snickers...the U.S. Mars bar 
is completely different...

Doddie
(who really doesn't like candy much and clearly watches too much of 
Foodnetwork's "Unwrapped".)






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  9 20:35:00 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:35:00 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
Message-ID: <e6cm1k+7aqg@eGroups.com>

While the new search the back post option is a great improvement they 
just took something out that should be there. THERE IS NO WAY TO GO UP 
THREAD.  I want to reply to the person before the person who's post I 
am reading and a couple of days ago they had that option. It was in the 
middle of the top and now it is gone.

They listen when a lot of people write to them. If this drives you 
crazy please write while they are still working on it. Thanks.

Tonks_op






From macloudt at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 10 00:25:19 2006
From: macloudt at yahoo.co.uk (Mary Ann)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 00:25:19 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Sheryll!
Message-ID: <e6d3hf+cthj@eGroups.com>

***refreshes all the decorations and plasters the room with Alan 
Rickman posters***

Please do not drool on the posters.  Sheryll will be taking these 
home later. ;)

We have another birthday person today...Sheryll our Birthday Elf!

***runs out of the room and returns with a huge, gooey chocolate 
cake***

Let's all wish our hard-working birthday Elf a very, very happy 
birthday.  Sheryll, I'm so glad to be sharing your birthday with you 
(I'm typing this on Sheryll's computer!).

Mary Ann, aka Dizzy Elf, waving hello from rainy Ottawa :)









From zgirnius at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 03:14:26 2006
From: zgirnius at yahoo.com (zgirnius)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:14:26 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6cm1k+7aqg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6ddei+lvde@eGroups.com>

Tonks wrote"
> While the new search the back post option is a great improvement they 
> just took something out that should be there. THERE IS NO WAY TO GO 
UP 
> THREAD.  

zgirnius:
Actually, Tonks, I think it is possible, the way tp do it has changed 
(grumble, I keep telling myself this helps to stave off senility <g>). 
When I am reading a message now, below that message there appears a 
message tree. The message I am reading is highlighted; above it I see 
the messages upthread all the way up to the original post that started 
the thread; and below are the posts in response to the message I am 
reading. So you could just click on the message you want to go to it.









From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jun 10 03:17:35 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:17:35 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <e6ce9e+a4br@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000901c68c3c$6b99b640$65a4a8c0@rosie>

| doddie here:
| 
| M&M's are candy coated chocolate balls... they can be plain milk 
| chocolate, or contain a chocolate covered peanut (the two most 
| popular), but they also have krispie one, white cholate, dark 
| chocolate.  the candy shells come in different colors green, red, 
| yellow, brown, orange, blue--I think they had tan color at one time 
| and often have special promotional colors like black and white.

[Lee]:
The peanut ones are the ball-shaped ones; the plain chocolate are sort of
flatter, almost like an aspirin shape.  And, yes, they come in all kinds of
colors including pink for Breast Cancer Awareness.

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Who does love her chocolate!)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 03:52:12 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:52:12 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6ddei+lvde@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6dflc+gpqs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "zgirnius" <zgirnius at ...> wrote:
> zgirnius:
> Actually, Tonks, I think it is possible, the way tp do it has changed 
> (grumble, I keep telling myself this helps to stave off senility 
<g>). 
> When I am reading a message now, below that message there appears a 
> message tree. The message I am reading is highlighted; above it I see 
> the messages upthread all the way up to the original post that 
started 
> the thread; and below are the posts in response to the message I am 
> reading. So you could just click on the message you want to go to it.
>

Tonks:

Well I thought that too. But then I realized when there are about 10 
responses to the first post that it doesn't come out that way. I went 
half crazy last night trying to just get back to the post before the 
one I was reading. In the tree that one was about 5 up.

Thing is just after they changed to the new system they still had an up 
thread button. It was at the top of the message in the middle. Then it 
disappeared. So they can put it back, because it was part of the new 
format. It just disappeared.  And they do listen if you write, because 
I wrote about some other glitch and they said they knew and were 
working to fix it.

When they come out with a new version they wait for people to write and 
tell them what is wrong. I hate that way of doing things, but I guess 
sometimes there is no other way to test a program.  Whenever I 
see "beta" verison I know to avoid it until other people test it. But 
with this.. well they said I could switch back to the old program, but 
the new one is OK, except for that one little thing. Once you get use 
to the fact that it looks like you answered yourself in somesort of 
timeturner accident. You see your message and you see in again under it 
in the tree. I see where some poor guy really did answer himself twice. 
Timeturn.. I am telling you.  ;-)

Tonks_op







From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 04:17:45 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 00:17:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Happy Birthday, Sheryll!
In-Reply-To: <e6d3hf+cthj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060610041745.38116.qmail@web36109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> ***refreshes all the decorations and plasters the
> room with Alan 
> Rickman posters***
> 
> Please do not drool on the posters.  Sheryll will be
> taking these 
> home later. ;)
> 
> We have another birthday person today...Sheryll our
> Birthday Elf!
> 
> ***runs out of the room and returns with a huge,
> gooey chocolate 
> cake***
> 
> Let's all wish our hard-working birthday Elf a very,
> very happy 
> birthday.  Sheryll, I'm so glad to be sharing your
> birthday with you 
> (I'm typing this on Sheryll's computer!).
> 
> Mary Ann, aka Dizzy Elf, waving hello from rainy
> Ottawa :)
> 
Sheryll:

You! Yes, you. Back away from the Alan Rickman
posters.

*attempts in vain to catch the Amandageist, but fails
miserably as the geist wafts to the other side of the
room, still ogling the posters*

Okay, if you play nice and stop drooling, I'll let you
keep one of them. After all, you didn't take the
chopstick off the stage in New York.

Thanks to Mary Ann and her kids I'm having a wonderful
birthday weekend. Plans in the works for more shopping
at Lush, visiting a couple museums, a barbecue here on
Sunday if the weather co-operates. There's nothing
quite like spending time with friends. :)

Sheryll, nice and relaxed after using up some of her
birthday gift from Mary Ann (purchased at Lush, of course)

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 05:52:54 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 05:52:54 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <e66siu+6hjb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6dmnm+7b6e@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" 
> <sherriola@> wrote:
> >
> > Sherry now:
> > 
> > i just found it on my audio version of OOTP as read by Jim 
> > Dale.  he putsthe emphasis on the last M in the  part of the
> > word, "magus", pronounces that A like the o in long or John,
> > or the word "ah" and uses a J sound for the G.  Hmmm, not sure
> > if I can type this so you can get the idea, but I'll try.  
> > Phonetic typing of how dale pronounces it
> > 
> > metimorphMahjus
> > 
> 
> Tonks:
> I can't remember how he pronounces it and I know that I always
> try to put in an extra syllable. I think the key here is to 
> remember that the last part is a form of wizard.. a sigular of 
> Magi.. one 'Magus'. Go to Dictonary.com and look. I can't get 
> all the little marks to  come over when I cut and paste.
> 
> Tonks_op


bboyminn:

The entire word is a combination of common roots -
 
Meta

That's pretty straight forward if you use a short 'e'; meta not meeta.

Morph 

pronounced 'morf' and from metamorphosis and

Magus

Now here is the tricky part, the root 'magi' comes from and is
pronounced like 'magic' or phonetically 'may-ji', though I and others
tend to say 'mah-ji' which has a less long 'a' similar to the normal
prononcuation of 'magic' However, 'magus' is pronounced with a 'g'
instead of a 'j' sound. So, 'magus' is pronounced 'may-gus'. Though
much like 'magic', I would personally use an 'a' sound somewhere
between a long and a short. 

Probably the closest correct version would be -

Met-ta morf may guss

I pronounce it closer to -

Met-ta morf mag (as in magnesium) us

But then that's just me.

Steve/bboyminn








From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 06:04:46 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:04:46 -0000
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <000901c68c3c$6b99b640$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <e6dndu+paqn@eGroups.com>


**snipity snip of my ol post
> [Lee]:
> The peanut ones are the ball-shaped ones; the plain chocolate are 
sort of
> flatter, almost like an aspirin shape.  And, yes, they come in all 
kinds of
> colors including pink for Breast Cancer Awareness.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> (Who does love her chocolate!)
> 
> Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at ... (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ...
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.


How funny that I left out that one color! I always thought that the 
peanut ones were more "egg shaped".. LOL I suppose I'd have to name 
the "plain ones" shaped like the track and field discuss...lol

Sorry, I just find this so amusing...esp. since I'm not particularly 
fond of chocolate, or many sweets in general...(despite the fact 
that most around me love chocolate and sweets)!

Doddie
(Who is not entirely fond of onions either(love the flavor....but 
don't want to eat them(hate the texture)...On the other hand I love 
the texture of chocolate...but am not entirely fond of 
the "flavor"...I'm a sad sac...I know..)

>








From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 12:46:22 2006
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:46:22 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6dflc+gpqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6eeuu+bf7r@eGroups.com>

The "Up Thread" function is still there.  It's just hidden.

On the top right hand corner of the actual message (just below the 
date), there is a "Show Message Option" button.  If you click that, 
one of the options is "Up Thread."

It's a good thing, too, because some of those message trees are so 
huge that not all of it shows up.

Annemehr








From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 14:03:41 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:03:41 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Sara and Tabouli!
Message-ID: <e6ejft+4adh@eGroups.com>

*stops partying and looks around*

Oh, right, my and Melody's party is over, isn't it? Time for someone 
else to celebrate.

*scurries about, tidying the party and hanging new, sparkly streamers*

I think we've pretty much depleted the food supplies. Someone keep 
the music going while I remedy the situation.

*pops out and reappears pushing a trolley of nibbles and 2 towering 
cakes*

That's better, now we can keep partying. :)

Today's birthday honourees are the lovely Sara and our esteemed 
salad - Tabouli. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or 
directly to Sara at: zorb47 at yahoo.com and to Tabouli at: 
tabouli at unite.com.au

I hope both of you have magical days, filled with fun and the company 
of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Sara!
Happy Birthday, Tabouli!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, taking the Alan Rickman posters with her as 
she goes ;)






From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 14:43:20 2006
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:43:20 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6eeuu+bf7r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6elq8+3sbn@eGroups.com>

That is, the function is there on Main.  It doesn't seem to appear 
here on OTC -- maybe it's a setting that can be changed by admin.?

A.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at ...> 
wrote:
>
> The "Up Thread" function is still there.  It's just hidden.
> 
> On the top right hand corner of the actual message (just below the 
> date), there is a "Show Message Option" button.  If you click 
that, 
> one of the options is "Up Thread."
> 
> It's a good thing, too, because some of those message trees are so 
> huge that not all of it shows up.
> 
> Annemehr
>








From coverton at netscape.com  Sat Jun 10 07:17:07 2006
From: coverton at netscape.com (Corey Overton)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:17:07 -0500
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <s4892aa1.040@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <000f01c68c5d$e81698c0$99daa3ac@Overton>

You've got to be kidding me. You guys don't have m and ms in South
Africa! They are a very good chocolate candy; they sometimes have
peanuts in them depending if you get them that way or not.

Your fellow member,
Corey


> Cairie:
>> Now here is a question that I've been curious about for years.
We don't have these in South Africa, so what are M and MS.  Are
they some kind of sweets or what? <<








From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 15:08:12 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:08:12 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6elq8+3sbn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6en8s+a3gd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at ...> 
wrote:
>
> That is, the function is there on Main.  It doesn't seem to appear 
> here on OTC -- maybe it's a setting that can be changed by admin.?
> 
> A.
> 
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > The "Up Thread" function is still there.  It's just hidden.
> > On the top right hand corner of the actual message (just below 
the  date), there is a "Show Message Option" button.  If you click 
> that,  one of the options is "Up Thread."
> > 

Tonks:
Not on mine. The view options are: 

View Source
Use Fixed Width Font
Unwrap Lines

If you look at post that are about 3 days old, but still the new 
version there is a "up thead" in the middle of the top. But not now. 
I have not been to the main list yet today, I will look to see if 
they fixed it over there.

Tonks_op








From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 15:26:07 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:26:07 -0000
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606090715m4f5ce7bcieb4861a5b91b54f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6eoaf+k7og@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" 
<bunniqula at ...> wrote:
>
> Tonks, thanks for your message!  I know my dad had his mortgage 
paid off and ~$100,000 in investments toward the beginning of 2004 
when both sides had to document their assets.  However, between 2004-
2005, he paid the full alimony and both his and my mom's lawyers 
fees.
> 
> After round two or three approximately over a decade ago and after
> suing a national law firm, eventually triggering its departure from
> Florida, getting some lawyers disbarred, and shaking up Florida's
> legal system a bit, my dad was awarded somewhere between
> $650,000-750,000, but his lawyer took a *huge*, HUGE chunk of that.
> So, I'm guessing she'd also take a good chunk of his money again.
> 
> 

Tonks:
I have been thinking about your mother and her situation. I know I 
should butt out of this, but then you did ask for advice, so here 
goes. Keep in mind that I do not really know the situation so I 
could be really off the wall here. (Basically your mother should 
have a good, fierce, attorney and do what he says.)
 
I know that you love both of your parents and this situation is a 
very trying one for you. But for the moment put your emotions aside 
and look at it from a point of logic.  Your father is an engineer 
and I know from all of the engineers that I have known in my life 
that they have no problem putting emotions aside and looking at the 
practical side of the situation.

First I suspect that your father's attorney is advising him to work 
only part-time in an attempt to 1. Get lower alimony payments and 2. 
Force your mother to go to work herself.  If she went to work 
herself that would not be a good idea because then your father's 
attorney will come back and say "she can support herself" and bang 
she will lose her alimony.  It sounds like a shred ploy on the part 
of your father and his attorney. Don't fall for it.

Second, engineers are VERY well paid. Even part time he probably 
makes twice as much as any of us would working full time, so don't 
feel sorry for him. 

A word about attorneys:  They do take a large part of most 
settlements when people are suing. But this is because in some types 
of cases they work for free until they win.  In ordinary cases they 
get paid by the hour.  Or if you mother is poor the attorney may 
work for the state. So it would depend on what type of arrangement 
your mother has with her attorney.

I would NOT get rid of the attorney.  Your mother does not speak 
English, she does not know the ways of our legal system, she would 
be eaten alive and left penniless and on the street without one.

This is what I would do if I were her.  Again this is my opinion and 
I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice. And not knowing 
the whole story, I could be way off the wall...

File liens against his home and do it ASAP. Next I would make sure 
that my attorney was either free to me through the county welfare 
office or was going to be paid a flat amount for his/her work.  Then 
I would read the divorce decree and see how many years my ex-husband 
was required to pay me.  If it is until I am 65 and I am 45 now that 
would be 20 years.  (It is probably less, but read the document.) I 
would take the time multiple by the amount, adjust for inflation if 
the degree does that or not if it doesn't. Come up with an amount.  
Let's say it was $1,750.00 a month, w/o adjustments for 20 years. 
That would be around $420,000.00.  With adjustments for inflation it 
would be much, much more.

Your father got $650,000.00 in a lawsuit. He probably actually got 
$300,000.00 if they actually paid him. (Just because you get a 
settlement doesn't mean you will ever see any of the money.)
And his house is paid for and he has $100,000.00 in investments.  

I would then have the attorney who has agreed to a flat fee, 
(hopefully this will be no more than say $3000.00) make a "deal" 
with your father. Make an offer.  He will be free of your mother 
forever.  His new wife can be free of your mother forever!  Just pay 
your mother a settlement of $300,000.00 cash. AND NOT A PENNY LESS. 
More if you can get it, and ask for more in the beginning, of 
course, but the bottom line would be around this amount.

Believe me when I say that your father will find a way to get this 
money. He will.  It will be worth it to be able to go back to work 
full-time.  It will be worth it to not have his current wife 
bitching about it every month.  He will find a way. He can mortgage 
the house.

Talk to an accountant, or ask the attorney who may know, and find 
out what will happen tax wise when you get such a large amount at 
one time.  She may have to put it in a special type of account to 
shelter it from taxes.  Put the money is some sort of SAFE type of 
investment account, like an annuity and draw money from it each 
month to live on.

You will need advise from an accountant, don't just listen to an 
Insurance or Investment salesman. They will just be trying to sell 
you what is best for their commission.

When the money is safe and she has a small income each month, help 
her learn English and get some education so that she can get a good 
job herself.  And she and you and even your father will live happily 
every after
 

Tonks_op







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 18:03:40 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:03:40 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
Message-ID: <e6f1hs+donl@eGroups.com>

Regarding the current changes to Yahoo, generally I don't have a
problem with them, and I welcome the change to the number of posts
that are shown below a given post. Before, no matter how many post or
how long a thread was, they only showed NINE. Now they show generally
the whole thread below a given post, so you can move up and down the
thread from there. 

Just one problems, the thread listed below a post is always in
threaded-format. Which means the posts are nested under the post to
which they are repling. 

Example, if someone responds to the orginal poster, the left margin of
the thread list is uniformly to the left. If I respond and then
someone replies to me and then someone replies to them, in that case,
each post will be indented one step farther to the right. Non-threaded
posts are simply in chronological order. 

That's just an explanation, here is the problem. Never in Yahoo's
history have Threaded and Unthreaded lists been in sync. If I view
several posts in Threaded mode, then switch to Unthreaded mode, the
link color on viewed posts doesn't change. On my computer using the
current group color scheme, UNRead message links are Blue, READ links
are a sort of maroon or dark purplish lavender color. 

Seeing this color change makes it very easy to keep track of what I
have and haven't read when I first come the the Main Message List.
Because threaded and unthreaded are never in sync, if I read posts by
selecting them from the threaded thread appearing under a given post,
those read post will not show up as Read when I go back to the main
message list. Consequently, it is nearly impossible to keep track of
what I have and haven't read. 

I can get used to the threaded list under a post because now they can
be quite long, I counted 30 under a post last night. However, I would
still prefer that it were chronologcial rather than threaded. None the
less, I like the idea that the whole thread is there, but I hate the
fact that it completely messed up the Read/Unread list in the Main
Message list.

That may have been a little convoluted, but hopefully you understand
my problem. 

Steve/bboyminn







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 18:44:05 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:44:05 -0000
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <e6eoaf+k7og@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6f3tl+ej5e@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
> 
> Tonks:
> I have been thinking about your mother and her situation. I know I 
> should butt out of this, but then you did ask for advice, so here 
> goes. Keep in mind that I do not really know the situation so I 
> could be really off the wall here. (Basically your mother should 
> have a good, fierce, attorney and do what he says.)
>  
> ..edited...
> 
> Tonks_op
>

bboyminn:

I agree we don't know the details of this specific event, but I
generally find the court system and the parties involved to be very
vindictive in their actions regarding Alimony and Child Support, and
very baised in favor of the woman. 

First, I don't believe and child support or alimony should be a fixed
amount; it should be a percentage of income. That way as a persons
income rised and falls, he is not going to be put in a position of
having his life and his finances destroyed; because, vindictive as it
may be, it ends up hurting everyone.

Second, we don't really know the ages of the people involved. A man in
his late 50's is not a good job candidate. There are plenty of kids
fresh out of college, even some with perhaps five years experience,
who will work for a lot less money, and represent a much better long
term investment for a company. 

Next, having an engineering degree, doesn't mean having an engineering
 job. Florida used to be a great place for engineering back in the
boom days of the Space Race, but when NASA cut back, there were
coutless engineers who couldn't find work.

Next, we can't just vilify the man, without looking at the motivations
and actions of the woman. $1,750/month is not much, but I have and do
live on less, you just have to set your priorities. You simply can not
and should not expect to continue in your same lifestyle once you have
cut off your primary source of support for that lifestyle. 

I don't know the particulars of this case, but I do have first hand
experience in which the mother lived completey off her child support,
plus whatever her current boyfriend added to the mix. The children
were receiving a substantial sum, though certainly not enough to be
considered rich. We do live in a area where the cost of living is
relatively low. The mother didn't see any need to have a job, so, for
the most part, she lived completely off the child support. 

That was very short sighted of her. First of all, now several years
have gone by, the kids are approaching age 18, and the child support
is going to stop. She has no work history. She has no income built up
in her Social Security trust fund. She has done nothing to get herself
'job ready'. Extremely short sigithed. Further, she has cheated her
own children. If she had supported herself and used her 'child suport'
as just that, the kids would probably have money in a savings account
that the could draw on to get them started in life; money for college
for example. But, no, the money was squandered.

Back to the main subject, when this divorce occurred, the woman in
question should have known that at some point she was going to have to
provide for herself. What is she doing to make that happen? She is
independant by divorce, now, whether she likes it or not, she is going
to have to find a way to become financially independant.

Don't get me wrong, a husband does take on a responsibility when he
gets married, but a wife also takes on a responsibility, and a
substantial part of both those responsibilities are lost in a divorce.
In my opinion, a divorce cancels the responsibility to care for the
other person in perpetuity. Once the bond of marriage is broken, at
some point the individuals cease being responsible for each other.

I think, you would all do better to seek out what is fair, reasonable,
and just; rather than seeking new innovative ways of punishing each
others. 

But, of course, I don't know the specific details, so my statement are
no more than general opinions on the subject.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn 






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jun 10 19:54:29 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:54:29 -0400
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
In-Reply-To: <e6eoaf+k7og@eGroups.com>
References: <1a2738400606090715m4f5ce7bcieb4861a5b91b54f7@mail.gmail.com>
	 <e6eoaf+k7og@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606101254r34b5d1efvd7697ba94c300c8f@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/06, Tonks <tonks_op at yahoo.com> wrote:

> First I suspect that your father's attorney is advising him to work
> only part-time in an attempt to 1. Get lower alimony payments and 2.
> Force your mother to go to work herself.  If she went to work
> herself that would not be a good idea because then your father's
> attorney will come back and say "she can support herself" and bang
> she will lose her alimony.  It sounds like a shred ploy on the part
> of your father and his attorney. Don't fall for it.

Aye, this is something I've wondered about, especially considering the
amount he's currently sending her matches--albeit $5 less--what his
lawyer proposed last year as a negotiation to end the trial sooner.

> I would NOT get rid of the attorney.  Your mother does not speak
> English, she does not know the ways of our legal system, she would
> be eaten alive and left penniless and on the street without one.

She does speak English.  Offhand, I believe I said she had a weak
understanding.  God!  Speaking of her English, I've tried to correct
her of this for months but to no avail: she says "egg-noy" for annoy
to describe the alimony issue.  No wonder I was stuck in speech
therapy during elementary school to remove her version of "Engrish".
{chuckle}  The *basic* understanding exists but there are some gaps
such as her writing out a check (just last year) where the invoice
referenced "make payable to vendor" and she wrote out the check to
"Vendor".  Classic moment.

My mom is sixty-eight now and I'm really thinking senility is kicking
in to a degree... Err, I question her health when she tires from
walking during grocery shopping.  My dad is eight years younger at age
sixty.  So, yeah, they're both not 'spring chickens'.  About twenty
years of marriage and *over twenty years* of off-and-on
divorce/alimony battles--I'm estimating they divorced when I was 4-5
years old.  Florida court rules, after twenty years of marriage, he
has to pay her alimony for as long as she lives, especially since she
has not remarried.

Another problem being, she has no Social Security funds to fall back
on.  Her work history has been mostly parttime (food prep and laundry
jobs) to raise three kids with six and ten year age gaps--she gave
birth to me when she was forty.  She was the "traditional homemaker"
and not the modern day definition of "homemaker", who not only manages
family but a career too.  She maintained the household as her spouse,
my dad, achieved additional education for a career and made sure all
her children had a good 'start' in life.

My dad married when he was very young, and as lacking in
'scintillating' conversation as my mom is, what she makes up with is
her very nurturing nature.  In a way, I understand why he divorced my
mom.  People change as they grow older.

> with your father. Make an offer.  He will be free of your mother
> forever.  His new wife can be free of your mother forever!  Just pay

I think they redefined "for richer or poorer, 'til death do us part". {g}

Again, thanks for the suggestions, Tonks!  I guess I especially feel
bad because next weekend is Father's Day and he's getting served by
the lawyer next week.  There really isn't any 'good timing' for such
matters.

Dina



From djklaugh at comcast.net  Sat Jun 10 20:11:46 2006
From: djklaugh at comcast.net (Deb)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:11:46 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6f1hs+donl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6f922+o95p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
(SNIP)
. If I view
> several posts in Threaded mode, then switch to Unthreaded mode, the
> link color on viewed posts doesn't change. On my computer using the
> current group color scheme, UNRead message links are Blue, READ 
links
> are a sort of maroon or dark purplish lavender color. 
> 
> Seeing this color change makes it very easy to keep track of what I
> have and haven't read when I first come the the Main Message List.
> Because threaded and unthreaded are never in sync, if I read posts 
by
> selecting them from the threaded thread appearing under a given 
post,
> those read post will not show up as Read when I go back to the main
> message list. Consequently, it is nearly impossible to keep track 
of
> what I have and haven't read. 

Deb here:
 They will show as READ (change color) if you use your back button 
and go back to the message list. But it does not show READ (change 
color) if you go from message to message .... sigh this change I DO 
NOT LIKE!!! Too much extra clicking for these old fingers. 
 
> I can get used to the threaded list under a post because now they 
can
> be quite long, I counted 30 under a post last night. However, I 
would
> still prefer that it were chronologcial rather than threaded. None 
the
> less, I like the idea that the whole thread is there, but I hate 
the
> fact that it completely messed up the Read/Unread list in the Main
> Message list.
> 
> That may have been a little convoluted, but hopefully you 
understand
> my problem. 
 
> Steve/bboyminn

I agree with you Steve. 

Deb (aka djklaugh) - One step forward for Yahoo with improved search 
capacity ... and several steps back with the discombobulated 
threading and non marking of messages READ 
>








From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat Jun 10 20:23:28 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:23:28 EDT
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
Message-ID: <4c5.1009e59.31bc8440@aol.com>

The biggest plus for me is the digests! The email is so much easier to  read, 
the menu at the top of the digest is threaded and there are lots of links  to 
move within the body of the digest. Even replying now replies with the  
correct subject title, not "digest xxxx".
 
The threading may not be perfect but it is a lot better than the old  system. 
 Mind you, I am a sysop from the ancient, 20th century CompuServe  era, where 
threading as an art and as well as a science---and a well done one  too!
 
~~~Mary
Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy  merely to be 
normal. ~Albert Camus




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From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jun 10 21:04:07 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:04:07 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6dflc+gpqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6fc47+ihea@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:

> Tonks:

> well they said I could switch back to the old program, 

Did they say HOW to switch back to the old program? On Webview?







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sat Jun 10 21:14:15 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:14:15 -0400
Subject: Do you go for the jugular in legal matters?
Message-ID: <1a2738400606101414h381282b8n5529914e34464f3a@mail.gmail.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

> First, I don't believe and child support or alimony should be a fixed
> amount; it should be a percentage of income. That way as a persons
> income rised and falls, he is not going to be put in a position of
> having his life and his finances destroyed; because, vindictive as it
> may be, it ends up hurting everyone.

I worked in payroll for awhile and many court garnishments I saw were
based on a percentage of income.

> Second, we don't really know the ages of the people involved. A man in
> his late 50's is not a good job candidate. There are plenty of kids

See, this is where it gets into sketchy territory.  Even into his late
fifties, my dad was employed with contract offers--also, he doesn't
necessarily work in Florida - he goes where the contract is based.
His explanation was that he turned down a job offer and that he was
'blacklisted' as a result.  I really don't know the full details.
>From what little I did gather, the judge *was* on his side--very
friendly to my dad and aloof with my mom--until he caught my dad in
some lie.

I don't know what exactly--though, hearing the part about my dad not
being able to afford a rental car (came in from Virginia) and had to
ride the public bus caused me to quirk my eyebrow (theatrics much?).
Anyway, that seemed to be the goal of both lawyers: make the other
side lose credibility.  My mom's lawyer beat my dad's in that aspect.
Whatever happened to cause the change, the court orders, if they were
directed at me, would've cause my face to flame up in embarrassment.
Since my mom didn't understand the final decision, she called me to
review the paperwork: the wording was formal but it was basically a
'bitchslap' against my dad.

> I don't know the particulars of this case, but I do have first hand
> experience in which the mother lived completey off her child
> support

Heh, I was rather impressed by other child support payment numbers.
Thanks to my stepmom for pointing out my 'worth', I knew my dad paid
$200/month with an additional $50/month for insurance as child support
for me.  Definitely not child support an adult can live off of. {g}

> Back to the main subject, when this divorce occurred, the woman in
> question should have known that at some point she was going to have to
> provide for herself. What is she doing to make that happen? She is
> independant by divorce, now, whether she likes it or not, she is going
> to have to find a way to become financially independant.

She did try, I'll give her some credit for that.  She joined the ranks
of 'manual labor' jobs in her mid-forties such as food prep and
sweatshop factory jobs, working alongside immigrant workers.  Her
education was limited to rural 1940-1950s farmland in Japan.  I was in
school during the days but not long enough for a fulltime schedule, so
I attended after school care ('cute' story: I went to a KinderCare
behind a gun range. I distinctly remember because they had a picture
of Yosemite Sam holding up his guns.).  However, that became too
expensive and she additionally cut back on her hours to take care of
me, and finally, the work wore her down as she reached her
mid-fifties, especially as younger workers (coming in by the boatload
and I literally mean *boatload*) moved faster.

> But, of course, I don't know the specific details, so my statement are
> no more than general opinions on the subject.
>
> Just passing it along.

Thanks!  It's far from an easy decision.  Personally, I'm not fond of
the 'jugular attack'.  If my dad is trying, then it's understandable
but there's also the 'what if there isn't honesty'.  I was never close
to him, so I don't know him well enough.  What I do know he's my dad,
my only dad.

Dina



From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jun 10 21:33:52 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:33:52 -0000
Subject: World Cup
Message-ID: <e6fds0+aksr@eGroups.com>

All the news media keep saying that everyone in the world is
passionate about the Futbol World Cup except in USA (where plenty of
immigrants are cheering for both their country of origin and USA). So
I was wondering how people in Canada feel about soccer football,
considering that they have something similar enough to American
football that poor Baltimore bought itself a Canadian Football League
team between their tragic loss of the Colts and the arrival of their
Ravens. 






From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jun 10 21:28:58 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:28:58 -0000
Subject: M + Ms
Message-ID: <e6fdiq+shc2@eGroups.com>

M+Ms has a website. Here is the URL with approximately all the colors:
http://www.mymms.com/21colors/index.asp
Now it's 21 colors; I remember it used to be 33 colors. Well, the
Easter bag contains a pastel green and pastel yellow that aren't on
that page along with the light blue, light pink, and lavendar that are.







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 21:53:21 2006
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:53:21 -0000
Subject: Please write to Yahoo Folks
In-Reply-To: <e6elq8+3sbn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6ff0h+5de4@eGroups.com>

Annemehr wrote:

> > The "Up Thread" function is still there.  It's just hidden.
> > 
> > On the top right hand corner of the actual message (just below the 
> > date), there is a "Show Message Option" button.  If you click 
> that, 
> > one of the options is "Up Thread."

and then followed up:

> That is, the function is there on Main.  It doesn't seem to appear 
> here on OTC -- maybe it's a setting that can be changed by admin.?

KathyK:

Hey all,

I've been playing with Yahoo, too, trying to figure out what is going
on with the upthread.  Here is what I found so far:

The "upthread" option does not only show up on Main. I played around
with messages here on Off-topic and it appeared in random messages
from time to time. But not all of them. Similarly, the option does not
appear in *all* messages on Main, as some people clearly are not
seeing it.

The only thing I can say with any certainty is that when you have
clicked on a message, if the "upthread" option *is* there, it
disappears if you sort the thread by date.

The existence of the "upthread" doesn't seem to be related to whether
a message was sent via web or email. I tried checking the URLs for
differences between when it does appear and when it doesn't, but I can
see no rhyme or reason. Sometimes it is there and sometimes it's not.

Unfortunately, I don't see an option for Y!Groups moderators to change
this.

KathyK







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 23:13:08 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:13:08 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
Message-ID: <e6fjm4+8chc@eGroups.com>

Does anyone have the email address to send complaints and comments to
Yahoo???

Seems like last time they made substantial changes there was a link on
the group pages for awhile where you could give feedback. I don't see
that this time.

The threaded/unthreaded message thing is my greatest complaint.
Although I see Yahoo has changed their terminology to grouped by
'Topic' or by 'Message'. 'Topic' is that each discussion subject has
all the related posts shown in a single group. I used to like this,
but I discovered I was missing messages when people would post in an
old thread and it would be several pages back in Threaded or Topic mode.

So, I switched to Message mode so the most recent posts would be at
the top of that main Groups page and at the bottom of the Main Message
List.

However, underneath individual post, it always defaults to 'Topic' or
Threaded mode, and the Topic and Message list have NEVER been in sync
with respect to keeping track of Read and Unread Posts.

Right now they are so hopelessly out of sync that it is next to
impossible to keep track of what I have and haven't read, and in a
group with a very high posting rate like the main group, that is
relatively important. 

I know when the previous set of changes were implimented, we
complained loudly and got many of the missing features re-instated.

Overal, the newest changes are generally good, but it is frustrating
when none of the message lists are in sync relative to the posts I
have and haven't Read.

So, who do I complain to? Anybody have the email address or a link to
an on-line Feedback Link?

Steve/bboyminn







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 10 22:53:17 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:53:17 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
Message-ID: <e6figt+r0rv@eGroups.com>

Does anyone have the email address to send complaints and comments to
Yahoo???

Seems like last time they made substantial changes there was a link on
the group pages for awhile where you could give feedback. I don't see
that this time.

The threaded/unthreaded message thing is my greatest complaint.
Although I see Yahoo has changed their terminology to grouped by
'Topic' or by 'Message'. 'Topic' is the each subject has all the
related posts shown in a single group. I used to like this, but I
discovered I was missing messages when people would post in an old
thread and it would be several pages back in Threaded or Topic mode.

So, I switched to Message mode so the most recent posts would be at
the top of that main Groups page and at the bottom of the Main Message
List.

However, underneath individual post, it always defaults to 'Topic' or
Threaded mode, and the Topic and Message list have NEVER been in sync
with respect to keeping track of Read and Unread Posts.

Right now they are so hopelessly out of sync that it is next to
impossible to keep track of what I have and haven't read, and in a
group with a very high posting rate like the main group, that is
relatively important. 

I know when the previous set of changes were implimented, we
complained loudly and got many of the missing features re-instated.

Overal, the newest changes are generally good, but it is frustrating
when none of the message lists are in sync relative to the posts I
have and haven't Read.

So, who do I complain to? Anybody have the email address or a link to
an on-line Feedback Link?

Steve/bboyminn







From hickengruendler at yahoo.de  Sun Jun 11 00:08:15 2006
From: hickengruendler at yahoo.de (hickengruendler)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:08:15 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6f1hs+donl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6fmtf+dm1p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> Regarding the current changes to Yahoo, generally I don't have a
> problem with them,  

Hickengruendler:

I do. It's the new search system that's driving me nuts. On the main 
list I tried to use it, if there are some new discussions about Neville 
and therefore put the word "Neville" in the searchbox. The answer was, 
that there were more than 5000 results and that therefore I should use 
a more specific searchterm. What the...? What else am I supposed to put 
in the searchbox, when I am specifically searching for discussions or 
mentionings about/of Neville? I mean, I suppose if I put Mimbulus 
Mimbletonia in it a few results would appear, but there's hardly any 
guarantee that it will be all. 







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jun 11 00:05:34 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:05:34 -0400
Subject: M + Ms
In-Reply-To: <e6fdiq+shc2@eGroups.com>
References: <e6fdiq+shc2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606101705j2c7bf55t26ed0e6316417e97@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/06, Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) <catlady at wicca.net> wrote:
> M+Ms has a website. Here is the URL with approximately all the colors:
> http://www.mymms.com/21colors/index.asp
> Now it's 21 colors; I remember it used to be 33 colors. Well, the
> Easter bag contains a pastel green and pastel yellow that aren't on
> that page along with the light blue, light pink, and lavendar that are.

One color I think M&Ms has completely discontinued are the light
browns/tans (not gold).  I think, during the 80s, the colors were dark
brown, tan, orange, yellow, and green.  Then red was added as a
'regular' (used to only be a holiday specialty), tan dropped, and blue
added to the standard colors.  After that, I lost track... Hm, maybe
it's time to buy a bag of M&Ms. :-)  I haven't bought a regular bag in
years.  Usually, if I buy bagged candy for myself, I wait until a
holiday is over for all the candies to go on sale... Of course,
Halloween is something where candy is bought *before* the kids go
knock-knock on your door.

Dina



From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Sun Jun 11 00:23:09 2006
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:23:09 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6fmtf+dm1p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6fnpd+93uq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "hickengruendler" wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Steve" wrote:
> > Regarding the current changes to Yahoo, generally I don't
> > have a problem with them,  
> 
> Hickengruendler:
[snip]
> What else am I supposed to put in the searchbox, when I am
> specifically searching for discussions or mentionings
> about/of Neville? I mean, I suppose if I put Mimbulus
> Mimbletonia in it a few results would appear, but there's
> hardly any guarantee that it will be all.

Instead of just using the searchbox, click the link "Advanced" just 
below the searchbox - this gives you the possibility of refining the 
search, including which dates, whether the word is in subject or in 
the message body, etc.  For this group, the direct link to advanced 
search seems to be:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/msearch_adv

Best regards
Christian Stub?







From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jun 11 00:51:14 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:51:14 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6fnpd+93uq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6fpe2+t0ht@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pengolodh_sc"
<pengolodh_sc at ...> wrote:

> Instead of just using the searchbox, click the link "Advanced" just 
> below the searchbox - this gives you the possibility of refining the 
> search, including which dates, whether the word is in subject or in 
> the message body, etc.  For this group, the direct link to advanced 
> search seems to be:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/msearch_adv

On the Advanced Search, put 'within the last 30 days' for Date and
'Neville' for 'In Text'. I just tried it and got a lot of posts.








From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 11 06:09:53 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:09:53 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6figt+r0rv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6gc3h+c4fl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the email address to send complaints and comments to
> Yahoo???

Tonks:

Here is what you do:
go to group "help" at the top right hand corner of this page. then to 
the question that says "group by topic" question then choose one close 
to what you want to talk about and push that. A new window will open 
and you will see at the bottom "is this enough information?" 
Answer "NO" and you will get a window where you can send an e-mail to 
them telling them about the problem.

Tonks_op







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 11 06:18:51 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:18:51 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6f1hs+donl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6gckb+vtps@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
>> Seeing this color change makes it very easy to keep track of what 
I
> have and haven't read when I first come the the Main Message List.
> Because threaded and unthreaded are never in sync, if I read posts 
by
> selecting them from the threaded thread appearing under a given 
post,
> those read post will not show up as Read when I go back to the main
> message list. Consequently, it is nearly impossible to keep track 
of
> what I have and haven't read. 
> 
> I can get used to the threaded list under a post because now they 
can be quite long, I counted 30 under a post last night. However, I 
would still prefer that it were chronologcial rather than threaded. 
None the  less, I like the idea that the whole thread is there, but 
I hate the fact that it completely messed up the Read/Unread list in 
the Main Message list.
> 
> That may have been a little convoluted, but hopefully you 
understand my problem. 
> 

Tonks:
Yes I do understand and it drives me crazy too. So I don't read 
under the post anymore, I go back to the main list and pull from 
there. The "up thread" which is now back doesn't work right either. 
It takes you not to the person the current one was responding to but 
way up to the top. Everytime Yahoo makes something "better" then 
screw it up worse!!

What is a real pain is that I often print out the message for an 
elderly friend that does not have a computer and likes to hear about 
the discussions. Well when I print it, now I get pages and pages of 
all of the links under the message. Ugh.. I will have to cut and 
paste it to Word and print from there. Don't want to waste all that 
paper.







From hickengruendler at yahoo.de  Sun Jun 11 08:51:40 2006
From: hickengruendler at yahoo.de (hickengruendler)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:51:40 -0000
Subject: Current Yahoo Changes - Comment
In-Reply-To: <e6fpe2+t0ht@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6glis+eush@eGroups.com>

 
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pengolodh_sc"
> <pengolodh_sc@> wrote:
> 
> > Instead of just using the searchbox, click the link "Advanced" just 
> > below the searchbox - this gives you the possibility of refining 
the 
> > search, including which dates, whether the word is in subject or in 
> > the message body, etc.  For this group, the direct link to advanced 
> > search seems to be:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/msearch_adv
> 

Catlady:
> On the Advanced Search, put 'within the last 30 days' for Date and
> 'Neville' for 'In Text'. I just tried it and got a lot of posts.
>

Hickengruendler:

Ah, thank you very much Catlady and pengolodh. :-)







From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Sun Jun 11 15:48:07 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:48:07 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6fjm4+8chc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6hdvn+lere@eGroups.com>

In the newly formatted emails there is a link in a box on the right-
hand side that says Share Feedback.  That is of course if your email 
program allows the format.

I have also found that some of the links in the email are handy, 
except that they tend to log me out of yahoo if I was already logged 
in, and the Reply via web post gives me a Forbidden message.







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 11 18:45:24 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:45:24 -0000
Subject: Great Dan Interview by Jonathon Ross - Short and Long Versions
Message-ID: <e6hoc4+nthq@eGroups.com>

Great Dan Interview by Jonathon Ross - Short and Long Versions

I was wandering around YouTube video website, essentially wasting my
live away, and I found a REALLY great interview of Dan Radcliffe by
Jonathon Ross. Well worth watching.

Full version - 16 minutes:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hYeefLcl6Mg&search=Dan%20Radcliffe

Short Version - Highlights only - 3:20 minutes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c0q2NOpttd4&search=Daniel%20Radcliffe%20Ross

Since the full version is so long, don't try to watch it in realtime.
As soon as you see the video screen press the 'Pause' button on the
right, and wait until close to half of it has downloaded before you
start to view it. 

At one point Mr. Ross asks Dan if he knows any adult jokes, Dan pauses
a second and responds 'Do you?'. 

Both are excellent.

Steve/bboyminn







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 11 19:13:53 2006
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:13:53 -0000
Subject: Chat
Message-ID: <e6hq1h+e69g@eGroups.com>

Hey all,

Please ping the HPFGU_Chat ID if you'd like to join in.

KathyK






From miles at martinbraeutigam.de  Sun Jun 11 17:56:31 2006
From: miles at martinbraeutigam.de (Miles)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:56:31 +0200
Subject: Weekly Chat - how to get in
Message-ID: <00b401c68d80$60323030$14b2a8c0@rechnerchen>

Hello,

since there still isn't a permanent room for our weekly chat (any proposals
for this are very welcome), we will use the conference system of Yahoo
Messenger, as we did the last weeks.

To join the chat, please send an IM (Instant Message) to d2dMiles04 (that's
me) and I'll invite you to the conference.

See you in the chat!






From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Jun 11 21:40:54 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:40:54 EDT
Subject: Great Dan Interview by Jonathon Ross - Short and Long Versions
Message-ID: <380.4a3295c.31bde7e6@aol.com>

Oh, THANK YOU, Steve! It is a great interview. Daniel was poised, funny,  and 
delightful to watch. The interviewer was knowledgeable, funny, and  
delightful to watch. They were rather evenly matched and it was good to see a  
well-balanced interview.
 
~~~Mary
Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy  merely to be 
normal. ~Albert Camus




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 11 21:36:40 2006
From: kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:36:40 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat -- possible new room
Message-ID: <e6i2d8+nr1j@eGroups.com>

Hi, everyone--

I found a service called "Chatzy":  http://www.chatzy.com/

Free service, nothing to download or install, you just save the 
link to the room, give yourself a user name, and enter the user 
password. It will keep the room for us as long as it's accessed 
at least once within every 10 days.

A few folks are testing it out at the moment, and it seems like 
a really good alternative for us; no one will have to stand by to 
invite in others, people can just come and go as they please.  
Also allows for saving chat (via copy and paste).  No smileys or 
different colors for text or html, though.

If anyone would like to try it out (at any time; it's open 24/7), 
here's the link:

http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

The user password is: hpfguchat

If everyone likes it, we can make this our new room, so see what
you think! :-)

--Kelley






From swartell at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 02:33:16 2006
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6fjm4+8chc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060612023316.47332.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>

Steve,

I have a little box on the right side of my messages
that says:

       We Made Changes
       Your Yahoo! Groups email is all new.

       Learn More

       Share Feedback

The bottom 2 lines are links.  On the other hand, I'm
not seeing some of the things others are reporting, so
I don't know if my view is entirely different than
yours.  I'm looking at Yahoo!Mail, which I get to from
My Yahoo.

HTH,
Sue (with enough different mail accounts that I barely
notice format changes in any one of them)





--- Steve <bboyminn at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have the email address to send
> complaints and comments to
> Yahoo???
> 



__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 



From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Jun 12 04:09:36 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:09:36 -0000
Subject: M + Ms
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606101705j2c7bf55t26ed0e6316417e97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6ipe0+d321@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <bunniqula at ...>
wrote:

<< One color I think M&Ms has completely discontinued are the light
browns/tans (not gold).  I think, during the 80s, the colors were dark
brown, tan, orange, yellow, and green.  Then red was added as a
'regular' (used to only be a holiday specialty), tan dropped, and blue
added to the standard colors.  After that, I lost track... Hm, maybe
it's time to buy a bag of M&Ms. :-)  I haven't bought a regular bag in
years. >>

Red was a regular color when I was little. It was dropped because
(choose one of these rumors) the red food coloring they used was found
to be carcinogenic, or the red food coloring they used was found to be
an aphrodisiac. I *think* tan was added to replace it, which may be
why tan was dropped when red was re-added.

I think tan and the brown are among the 21 colors that can be ordered
from the website, and I suppose they would appear in Thanksgiving
theme bags if they made Thanksgiving theme bags betweeen Halloween
(orange and black) and Christmas (red and two shades of green, used to
be red and one shade of green) theme bags. There's also a light tan
(I'm inclined to call it 'cream' or 'parchment') that appears in the
Pirates of the Caribbean theme bag advertising the upcoming movie.

I dunno how true the colors look on my monitor. It looks like the 21
colors include a navy blue that I've never seen in a real-life M + M
but not the royal blue which is one of the regular colors.






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 04:21:32 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:21:32 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6hdvn+lere@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6iq4c+ddrr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" <bhobbs36 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> In the newly formatted emails there is a link in a box on the 
right-
> hand side that says Share Feedback.  That is of course if your 
email 
> program allows the format.
> 
> I have also found that some of the links in the email are handy, 
> except that they tend to log me out of yahoo if I was already 
logged 
> in, and the Reply via web post gives me a Forbidden message.
>

Tonks:

Well there is no way in ... that I am going to volunteer to use the 
new mail. It says "beta"... and I have been through that too many 
times. I don't like change. It could stay the same for 20 years for 
all I care, as long as it works. So until they force it on me, I 
will stay with the old one.

But for those who want to respond to the group message changes you 
have to go to the group help page, not the e-mail page. I think.

Tonks_op







From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Mon Jun 12 05:29:01 2006
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:29:01 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6iq4c+ddrr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6iu2t+852g@eGroups.com>


> Tonks:
> 
> Well there is no way in ... that I am going to volunteer to use the 
> new mail. It says "beta"... and I have been through that too many 
> times. I don't like change. It could stay the same for 20 years for 
> all I care, as long as it works. So until they force it on me, I 
> will stay with the old one.
> 
> But for those who want to respond to the group message changes you 
> have to go to the group help page, not the e-mail page. I think.
> 
> Tonks_op
>

Errmm Tonks.... I wasn't talking about yahoo email.
I meant the notifications you receive in YOUR email, whether 
individually or in digest form, when posts are made to the group.
There's a direct link to the feedback form.







From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jun 13 00:53:39 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:53:39 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6iu2t+852g@eGroups.com>
References: <e6iu2t+852g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <448E0C93.9070808@internode.on.net>

Belinda wrote:
>> Tonks:
>>
>> Well there is no way in ... that I am going to volunteer to use the 
>> new mail. It says "beta"... and I have been through that too many 
>> times. I don't like change. It could stay the same for 20 years for 
>> all I care, as long as it works. So until they force it on me, I 
>> will stay with the old one.

I don't see the problem.

I always send mail from my mail program "thunderbird"
so, i wouldn't have known about the change unless someone had said.

*shrug* makes no difference to me at all.

Get Thunderbird!

www.mozilla.com

Wolfie



From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jun 12 07:51:25 2006
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:51:25 +0200
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
Message-ID: <s48d391d.058@gwia.resbank.co.za>


Thanks for that.  I thought of smarties.  Our smarties are flat candy coated chocolate and they only come in milk flavor.  I had a suspicion that M and MS could be like smarties.

Cairie

>>> doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com 2006-06-09 20:22 >>>
doddie here:

M&M's are candy coated chocolate balls... they can be plain milk
chocolate, or contain a chocolate covered peanut (the two most
popular), but they also have krispie one, white cholate, dark
chocolate.  the candy shells come in different colors green, red,
yellow, brown, orange, blue <snip>

I think the British equivalent may be called smarties... <snip>









From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jun 12 18:44:42 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:44:42 -0400
Subject: When your digital camera becomes *shot*?
Message-ID: <1a2738400606121144x56b7ca5eg9dde0ee7603cb9ef@mail.gmail.com>

I purchased a used Sony Cybershot DSC... something.  It's a five
megapixel bugger.  Anyway, even though I bought it used in 2004, the
thing worked fine.  I think the last time the camera was used was for
the Harry Potter HBP book release based on the pics left.  So, yeah,
it's been about a year where it's been sitting "quietly" (or so I
thought).  The lens automatically shutters a protective cover and no
excessive heat or humidity (or at least a home in Florida ranging
79-82^F) or magnetic exposure.  Basically, nothing should've damaged
it for storage.

However, I powered the thing back up again yesterday and I've got this
large black bar and fuzzy white bar slightly shifting around (in a
pixelated sense) on the digital screen and the snapshots have a thick
black line going through them (doesn't matter if the screen is turned
on or off and I'm using the optical view).  Am I missing something
simple?

Oh, it might be the DSC-P10
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008O35W/002-9460266-9760821?v=glance&n=502394
).  Yeah, 2003 was when the original owner bought it.  Seems some folk
had their camera die sooner than others.

Dina



From rlgj86 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 07:28:20 2006
From: rlgj86 at yahoo.com (RandellG)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:28:20 -0000
Subject: X HP Wars
Message-ID: <e6j52k+deoc@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know any good HP/Xmen or HP/Starwars fics?










From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 20:58:15 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:58:15 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6iu2t+852g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6kkh7+q0jc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" <bhobbs36 at ...> wrote:
>
> Errmm Tonks.... I wasn't talking about yahoo email.
> I meant the notifications you receive in YOUR email, whether 
> individually or in digest form, when posts are made to the group.
> There's a direct link to the feedback form.
>

Tonks:

Opps. Sorry. I don't get anything from the group at my e-mail, I read 
it all online. Sorry, I misunderstood.

Tonks_op








From dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun 12 10:32:37 2006
From: dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk (Tim Regan)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:32:37 +0100
Subject: Mai Pucik's Nimbus paper anyone?
Message-ID: <001201c68e0b$86840020$938c0060$@co.uk>

Hi All,

Does anyone have a copy of Mai Pucik's Nimbus 2003 paper "Fanwords: The
Evolution of Vernacular in the Harry Potter Fandom" to hand? Or Mai's email
address? If you could send it to me that would be great - I need to
reference it in a paper I'm writing.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.



	
	
		
___________________________________________________________ 
All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine 
http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jun 12 21:27:15 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:27:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] When your digital camera becomes *shot*?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606121144x56b7ca5eg9dde0ee7603cb9ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c68e66$f9e635a0$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Sometimes our digicam does strange things and we replace the batteries which
seems to fix it.  Even when it's been sitting idle for several months,
somehow, the batteries just go sort of flat.

Cheers,

Lee :-)




From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no  Mon Jun 12 21:35:55 2006
From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:35:55 -0000
Subject: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <s48d391d.058@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <e6kmnr+edt7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Cairie Witter" wrote:
> Thanks for that.  I thought of smarties.  Our smarties
> are flat candy coated chocolate and they only come in
> milk flavor.  I had a suspicion that M and MS could be
> like smarties.

Having tasted both Nestl? Smarties and M&Ms, my impression is that the 
M&Ms are very slightly smaller, and have darker chocolate (although it 
is still milk chocolate) than Smarties.

Best regards
Christian Stub?






From s_ings at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 12 15:21:03 2006
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:21:03 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Jim!
Message-ID: <e6k0ov+9n80@eGroups.com>

*tidies up the party room, blowing up balloons and hanging sparkly 
new streamers*

Boy, we sure had a party this weekend, didn't we? And guess what? The 
fun isn't over yet! Let me just get some sustenance to keep us going.

*disappears and pops back with a trolley laden with nibbles, 
beverages and a towering cake*

Today's birthday honouree is Jim Flanagan. Birthday owls can be sent 
care of this list or directly to Jim at: jflanagan1 at nc.rr.com

I hope you have a wonderful day, filled with fun, magic and the 
company of good friends.

Happy Birthday, Jim!

Sheryll the Birthday Elf, tired enough to feel hung over ;)






From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Tue Jun 13 01:35:56 2006
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:35:56 -0000
Subject: X HP Wars
In-Reply-To: <e6j52k+deoc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6l4ps+7q6b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "RandellG" <rlgj86 at ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know any good HP/Xmen or HP/Starwars fics?

Here's a filk in which a DE wishes he was a Jedi Knight:

http://home.att.net/~coriolan/voldemort/death.htm#aJedi

  - CMC








From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 13 03:47:44 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:47:44 -0000
Subject: Mai Pucik's Nimbus paper anyone?
In-Reply-To: <001201c68e0b$86840020$938c0060$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <e6lch0+j054@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" <dumbledad at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone have a copy of Mai Pucik's Nimbus 2003 
paper "Fanwords: The
> Evolution of Vernacular in the Harry Potter Fandom" to hand? Or 
Mai's email
> address? If you could send it to me that would be great - I need to
> reference it in a paper I'm writing.
>
 
Tonks:

You can reach HPFandom through the current convention site here:
http://lumos2006.org/

and if you type her name in the yahoo search 3 entries come up, one 
with an e-mail address. Don't know how current it is.
Good Luck.







From heidi8 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 13 04:00:35 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:00:35 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] X HP Wars
In-Reply-To: <e6j52k+deoc@eGroups.com>
References: <e6j52k+deoc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5913e6f80606122100t25e3b168p7e28efc0560290d5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/12/06, RandellG <rlgj86 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know any good HP/Xmen or HP/Starwars fics?
>

I can't vouch for the quality, per se, but you can find a slew of XMen
crossovers listed at
http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51342
and Star Wars crossovers at
http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100752

The one SW-referencing HP fic I can vouch for is B Bennett's A Certain
Point of View, which was written slightly after GoF came out, wherein
Harry. Hermione, Ron and Ginny watch the Original Trilogy. You can
read it at http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/b_bennett/ACPOV01a.html

Heidi



From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jun 13 21:48:34 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:48:34 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] X HP Wars
In-Reply-To: <5913e6f80606122100t25e3b168p7e28efc0560290d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e6j52k+deoc@eGroups.com> <5913e6f80606122100t25e3b168p7e28efc0560290d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <448F32B2.5030706@internode.on.net>

Heidi wrote:
> On 6/12/06, RandellG <rlgj86 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Does anyone know any good HP/Xmen or HP/Starwars fics?
>>
> 
> I can't vouch for the quality, per se, but you can find a slew of XMen
> crossovers listed at
> http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51342
> and Star Wars crossovers at
> http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100752
> 
> The one SW-referencing HP fic I can vouch for is B Bennett's A Certain
> Point of View, which was written slightly after GoF came out, wherein
> Harry. Hermione, Ron and Ginny watch the Original Trilogy. You can
> read it at http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/b_bennett/ACPOV01a.html

It's funny how people forget their setting though...
No "Sodas and milkduds" in Britain [or Australia either]

Wolfie! [Aussie]



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Subject: New Graphic Site
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jun 14 05:17:22 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:17:22 -0700
Subject: all HP fans ought to watch this one
In-Reply-To: <e6lch0+j054@eGroups.com>
References: <e6lch0+j054@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <448F9BE2.7040809@internode.on.net>

I *highly* recommend that all HP fans watch this one.
It gets particularly interesting about half way through.

You will need broadband as it's quite a long programme.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3102044726280108434&q=secrets

Wolfie!



From celizwh at intergate.com  Tue Jun 13 17:27:37 2006
From: celizwh at intergate.com (houyhnhnm102)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:27:37 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
Message-ID: <e6msi9+irk1@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know what's going on with the hpfgu parent list.  I can 
access the main message page, but I can't read any of the messages.  I 
keep getting redirected to a page that says "The group HPforGrownups 
is temporarily unavailable".  This has been going on since yesterday 
evening.

houyhnhnm







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 13 18:34:25 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:34:25 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6msi9+irk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6n0fh+gcve@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "houyhnhnm102" <celizwh at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what's going on with the hpfgu parent list.  I can 
> access the main message page, but I can't read any of the messages.  
I 
> keep getting redirected to a page that says "The group HPforGrownups 
> is temporarily unavailable".  This has been going on since yesterday 
> evening.
> 

Tonks:
I saw that it was off last night. I went on about 11:00am EST today 
and it was there and there were some post from the time I thought it 
was off. That seemed odd. I read a few of the post, for about an hour, 
and I posted around noon. I kept checking to see my post but it wasn't 
there and then the next time I checked the whole thing was gone again..

I know that there is a worm going around associated with the yahoo 
groups and they are also fixing glitches in the new program. So I 
guess it is one of those reasons. But for those of us that are 
addicted to HPFGU, it is agony for us when it is off even for a few 
minutes!!!

Tonks_op
did someone say I should get a life?







From kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 13 19:06:53 2006
From: kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net (Kelley)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:06:53 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6n0fh+gcve@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6n2cd+mqm9@eGroups.com>

houyhnhnm102: 
> I keep getting redirected to a page that says "The group 
> HPforGrownups is temporarily unavailable".  This has been 
> going on since yesterday evening.

Yep, me too.  I'll bet we're probably all getting that.

> Tonks:
> <snip> I know that there is a worm going around associated 
> with the yahoo groups and they are also fixing glitches in 
> the new program. So I guess it is one of those reasons. 

That's my guess, too, one or both of those.

Don't know if any moderated-on-the-main list folks will see this, 
but for this elf anyway, it's not showing that there are any 
pending messages.  So, your posts could be there and the elves 
just can't see / access them, or could also be that Yah is just 
not letting your post even make it to the pending queue.  (I'm 
kind of expecting there to be a big pile-up of pendings when 
things get sorted, myself.)

All I can really do is say we should all just try to be patient 
and expect that Yahoo will get this fixed soon...

--Kelley







From joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 13 20:50:19 2006
From: joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net (canyoutellmehowtoget)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:50:19 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6n2cd+mqm9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6n8eb+666i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Kelley" 
<kelley_thompson at ...> wrote:
>
> houyhnhnm102: 
> > I keep getting redirected to a page that says "The group 
> > HPforGrownups is temporarily unavailable".  This has been 
> > going on since yesterday evening.
> 
> Yep, me too.  I'll bet we're probably all getting that.
> 
> > Tonks:
> > <snip> I know that there is a worm going around associated 
> > with the yahoo groups and they are also fixing glitches in 
> > the new program. So I guess it is one of those reasons. 
> 
> That's my guess, too, one or both of those.
> 
> Don't know if any moderated-on-the-main list folks will see this, 
> but for this elf anyway, it's not showing that there are any 
> pending messages.  So, your posts could be there and the elves 
> just can't see / access them, or could also be that Yah is just 
> not letting your post even make it to the pending queue.  (I'm 
> kind of expecting there to be a big pile-up of pendings when 
> things get sorted, myself.)
> 
> All I can really do is say we should all just try to be patient 
> and expect that Yahoo will get this fixed soon...
> 
> --Kelley
>

I'm a newbie member of the HPFGU list and I've been getting the "The 
group HPforGrownups is temporarily unavailable" message for the last 
two days, too. Ocasionally I'll see messages, then I'll get the 
error message. Frustrating.

Joe










From joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 13 21:31:31 2006
From: joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net (canyoutellmehowtoget)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:31:31 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6n0fh+gcve@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6narj+fheb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> Tonks:
> I saw that it was off last night. I went on about 11:00am EST 
today 
> and it was there and there were some post from the time I thought 
it 
> was off. That seemed odd. I read a few of the post, for about an 
hour, 
> and I posted around noon. I kept checking to see my post but it 
wasn't 
> there and then the next time I checked the whole thing was gone 
again..
> 
> I know that there is a worm going around associated with the yahoo 
> groups and they are also fixing glitches in the new program. So I 
> guess it is one of those reasons. But for those of us that are 
> addicted to HPFGU, it is agony for us when it is off even for a 
few 
> minutes!!!
> 
> Tonks_op
> did someone say I should get a life?
>

Joe (newbie):
Oh, heavens no. The world outside the Potterverse is quite 
overrated. Personally I try to avoid it at all costs. 









From heidi8 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 01:12:41 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:12:41 -0400
Subject: FictionAlley Announces Scholarship Winners
Message-ID: <5913e6f80606131812s63b1210ar72d760bfc2efd87c@mail.gmail.com>

When teenage writer Katie O'Brien lost her battle with leukemia in the
spring of 2005, FAWC, the non-profit educational arm of
FictionAlley.org and its family of websites, created three
scholarships for young writers in her memory.

The winners of the 2006-2007 Katie O'Brien Memorial scholarship are:

*Ashley Yutzy, of the Maryland Institute College of Art
*Michelle A., who will be attending Florida State University this fall
*Rachel W. of Colorado's Naropa University

The program was open this year to individuals who would be full-time
students in the 2006-2007 school year; almost one hundred applications
were submitted, and three awards of five hundred dollars - one for
art, one for creative writing and one for community service - have
been awarded.

Heidi Tandy, president of FictionAlley, commended the three winners,
and said, "These young women have shown passion, talent and
originality, and that is truly the magic of creativity. Perhaps
someday, they will be, like J.K. Rowling, able to share their creative
magic with the world."

Examples of works created by the three winners will be on display in
FictionAlley's booth at Lumos, the Harry Potter conference taking
place in Las Vegas July 27 - 30, 2006.  In addition, FictionAlley is
hosting art from Ms Yutzy's portfolio at
http://www.fictionalley.org/scholarship/art.html; a selection from
Michelle's winning submission for the Community Service scholarship is
at http://www.fictionalley.org/scholarship/communityservice.html and a
selection from Rachel's winning submission for the Writing scholarship
is at http://www.fictionalley.org/scholarship/writing.html.

Beginning in 2005, thousands of people around the world purchased
CREATIVITY & MAGIC wristbands, and FictionAlley used the proceeds to
fund scholarships.  There are plans to continue awarding the
scholarships through the 2008-1009 school year.   Wristbands are still
available via http://www.fictionalley.org/wristbands.html, and will be
on sale at Lumos, as will two surprises for our 2006 scholarship
fundraiser.

FictionAlley celebrates its fifth anniversary this summer as the host
of the largest collection of Harry Potter fanfiction, fanart and
fan-discussion. The site has provided a place for thousands of writers
and artists to share their stories and their art, get feedback on
their work from other fans, and improve in their craft.

ABOUT FICTIONALLEY: FictionAlley.org was founded in the summer of 2001
by a dozen Harry Potter fans - mostly fanfic writers and artists - as
an archive for Harry Potter fanfic; the site hosts any story with
reasonably good grammar and spelling as long as it does not merit an
adults-only rating. Since 2001, the site has grown to include over ten
thousand stories and chapters by thousands of writers, as well as
thousands of fan-generated artworks, hundreds of fan-films, and now, a
beta project of audio recordings of fanfiction, and has been a
frequent sponsor of events for Harry Potter fans, including Nimbus -
2003, The Witching Hour, Accio and movie- and book-release parties in
dozens of cities from Melbourne, Australia to Los Angeles, California.

FAWC also hosts HarryPotterWiki.com, a Wiki about J.K. Rowling, the
Harry Potter series and its fandom, and HPInkPot.com, a collection of
essays about the series, writing and creativity. In May, 2006,
FictionAlley launched Spell-Cast.com, a biweekly podcast by, for and
about fans and the things they make, do, create, learn and discuss.
FictionAlley has been featured on the front page of the Sunday New
York Times, by the BBC, in the Miami Herald, National Public Radio,
the Sacramento Bee and BOOK magazine. In April, 2004, FictionAlley was
nominated for a WEBBY Award. In the spring of 2005, FictionAlley was
nominated for a Prix Ars Electronica award; the Prix Ars is considered
the Nobel Prize of web awards. In the summer of 2005, FictionAlley
was invited to be part of the MINERVA project at the Library of
Congress; the Library now archives all of the contents of FictionAlley
for its permanent collection.



From celizwh at intergate.com  Wed Jun 14 02:24:10 2006
From: celizwh at intergate.com (houyhnhnm102)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:24:10 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6n0fh+gcve@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6ns0a+eghq@eGroups.com>

Tonks:

>  But for those of us that are addicted to
> HPFGU, it is agony for us when it is off even 
> for a few minutes!!!
> 
> Tonks_op
> did someone say I should get a life?

houyhnhnm:

Half a day and I'm a basket case.  I need a twelve step program. :-)

Oh well, all better now. (except for the missing scroll bar)







From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jun 14 19:30:59 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:30:59 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food Question--before I forget again
In-Reply-To: <s48d391d.058@gwia.resbank.co.za>
References: <s48d391d.058@gwia.resbank.co.za>
Message-ID: <449063F3.4070601@internode.on.net>

Cairie Witter wrote:
> Thanks for that.  I thought of smarties.  Our smarties are flat candy coated chocolate and they only come in milk flavor.  I had a suspicion that M and MS could be like smarties.

We in Australia had always had smarties as long as I could remember [I'm 
40], during the 80s, after E.T came out, there was reference to M&Ms and
also Oreos which we didn't have.

Soon after, M&Ms became available here.

The chocolate is much darker than smarties, and stronger too.
The lollies [which is what The English people and Aussies call candy,
remember that one writers!] are about half the size of smarties too.

People claim to recognise a taste difference between colours but
I reckon that's a load of bollocks.

A side note, we got Oreos sometime after 2000 and ony had cheeriOs
for about two years.

But then there's loads of great stuff we have that you guys don't :)

A friend from the states and I had swapped goodies by post, that's a
fun thing for you to try. :)

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 14 03:59:11 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:59:11 -0000
Subject: Temporarily unavailable
In-Reply-To: <e6ns0a+eghq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6o1if+ug0c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "houyhnhnm102" <celizwh at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Tonks:
> >  But for those of us that are addicted to
> > HPFGU, it is agony for us when it is off even 
> > for a few minutes!!!
> > 
> > Tonks_op
> > did someone say I should get a life?
> 
>
>>Joe (newbie):
> >Oh, heavens no. The world outside the Potterverse is quite
> >overrated. Personally I try to avoid it at all costs.

Tonks:
lol. Thanks. 


> houyhnhnm:
> 
> Half a day and I'm a basket case.  I need a twelve step program. :-
)

Tonks:
Well while HPFGU was off and I was at work.. a part time job where I 
just do some phone work.. I hang out on the computer between 
calls..  (it is a bit of an interruption when someone does call in, 
but then I have to remember.. oh, ya, I get paid to talk to them.) 
Then back to HP on the net..  

So today I was trolling around other groups that were still on. And 
I found a lot of very interesting things. There are anti-Harry 
Potter groups apparently. I was going to play with them a bit by 
posting pro Harry Potter stuff, but it wasn't much of a site so I 
didn't. It would have been fun if it actually had more traffic.

evil Tonks, evil.

See what happens when I can't post or read HPFGU. I wonder if Steve 
stole any cars today?  ;-) Steve, are you there??

Tonks_op







From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 14 18:17:28 2006
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:17:28 -0000
Subject: Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <449063F3.4070601@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e6pjro+ob6q@eGroups.com>

Wolfie wrote:

> But then there's loads of great stuff we have that you guys 
don't :)
> 
> A friend from the states and I had swapped goodies by post, that's 
a
> fun thing for you to try. :)
> 
> Wolfie!
>

Barb now:

My dad was born and raised in Australia (Melbourne) and we all lived 
in Perth for 4 months when I was young-I had my 7th birthday there. 
Did a fair bit of travelling the country around at that time, 
although I haven't been back.

For Father's Day this Sunday, I would like to put together a basket 
of food from "home" for my dad. Since it is so last minute, I know 
I'll have to make do with what's available-either at the grocery 
store or at an import store. There simply isn't time to have my Aunt 
(still in Australia) or anyone else send me a box of goodies.

Vegemite is easy- it's very readily available, which my dad loves 
and the rest of us hate. I also just found out that an import store 
in the area has one of my favorite things in the whole world (and my 
dad's, too),so I'm going to stock up-I found Violet Crumbles in 
Minnesota! Since the Australian store closed (maybe 15 years ago), 
I've only had 1 Violet Crumble, and I adore them. If I can find 
Pavlova, I'm going to get several. I know a specialty grocery store 
that used to carry it, but I don't know if they do anymore.

So Violet Crumbles, Vegemite, and maybe Pavlova. Aussies- Wolfie or 
anyone else- any suggestions on wonderful Australian foods that I 
should look for?







From miss_megan at bigpond.com  Wed Jun 14 22:44:12 2006
From: miss_megan at bigpond.com (storm)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:44:12 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6pjro+ob6q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPIEPDDJAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>

Barb, are Tim Tams Australian? I have a feeling the might be. 

cheers

storm 

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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 15 03:42:31 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:42:31 -0000
Subject: Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6pjro+ob6q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Barb Fulton" 
<barbfulton at ...> wrote:
>
> Wolfie wrote:
> 
> > But then there's loads of great stuff we have that you guys 
> don't :)
> > 
> Barb now:
> 
> For Father's Day this Sunday, I would like to put together a 
basket 
> of food from "home" for my dad. Since it is so last minute, I know 
> I'll have to make do with what's available-either at the grocery 
> store or at an import store. 
> 
> Vegemite is easy- it's very readily available, which my dad loves 
> and the rest of us hate. I also just found out that an import 
store 
> in the area has one of my favorite things in the whole world (and 
my 
> dad's, too),so I'm going to stock up-I found Violet Crumbles in 
> Minnesota! Since the Australian store closed (maybe 15 years ago), 
> I've only had 1 Violet Crumble, and I adore them. If I can find 
> Pavlova, I'm going to get several. I know a specialty grocery 
store that used to carry it, but I don't know if they do anymore.
> 
> So Violet Crumbles, Vegemite, and maybe Pavlova. Aussies- Wolfie 
or anyone else- any suggestions on wonderful Australian foods that I 
> should look for?
>

Tonks:
So what is all of that?? Never heard of any of it. Educate me, 
please. Thanks.

Tonks_op






From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 15 05:27:34 2006
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:27:34 -0000
Subject: Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com>

Barb  wrote:

snip

> > So Violet Crumbles, Vegemite, and maybe Pavlova. Aussies- Wolfie 
> or anyone else- any suggestions on wonderful Australian foods that I 
> > should look for?
> >
> 
> Tonks:
> So what is all of that?? Never heard of any of it. Educate me, 
> please. Thanks.
> 
> Tonks_op
>

Barb now:

Violet Crumbles are pure heaven. They are a milk chocolate-covered 
honeycomb candy- a candy bar. Vegemite is awful, in my opinion. It is 
a dark brown (almost black) paste-I believe it is made from brewer's 
yeast extract. I need to leave the room when the jar is opened, 
because the smell is so strong. My dad generally spreads it thinly on 
toast. I believe it is called Marmite in the UK. Pavlova is a meringue 
dessert that I haven't had in probably 20 years. I'm sure it can be 
made from scratch, but I remember buying a Pavlova kit (in an egg-
shaped container) at a high-end grocery store when I was in elementary 
school-my mom and I made it for my girl scout troop. We decorated it 
with fresh fruit and whipped cream, but I don't know if that's 
typical, or just what we liked.

-Barb







From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 15 05:32:52 2006
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:32:52 -0000
Subject: Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <PPEOKMGBLEMHDCHHGOLPIEPDDJAA.miss_megan@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at ...> wrote:
>
> Barb, are Tim Tams Australian? I have a feeling the might be. 
> 
> cheers
> 
> storm 
> 

I've never heard of them. They may well be-I was ages 6 and 7 in 
Australia, and I'm 32 now. Ok, I just googled Tim Tams, and it looks 
like they are Australian-and they look yummy! I may have to look for 
those, as well! I hope I actually give these to my dad, instead of 
eating them myself! Maybe I should just buy extra!

-Barb






From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jun 15 06:15:56 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hatley)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:15:56 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food
  Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com>
References: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060615061556.648F62CF4CA@mail01.chariot.net.au>

Barb Fulton writes: 

> I've never heard of them. They may well be-I was ages 6 and 7 in 
> Australia, and I'm 32 now. Ok, I just googled Tim Tams, and it looks 
> like they are Australian-and they look yummy! I may have to look for 
> those, as well! I hope I actually give these to my dad, instead of 
> eating them myself! Maybe I should just buy extra!

Tim Tams are indeed Australian, and they are the food of the gods. 
Australians overseas often want to be sent care packages of Tim Tams - which 
can best be described as a chocolate cream biscuit (or cookie for Americans) 
covered with chocolate - and Vegemite - which can best be described as axel 
grease with added salt (actually it's a yeast extract, a by product from 
brewing beer - it's similar to the British Marmite, though not identical - 
and it's typically eaten spread on sandwiches. It's highly nutritious and a 
lot of people do like it - but I'm not one of them - boarding school cured 
me of that!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun 15 23:41:39 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:41:39 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com>
References: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4491F033.1030807@internode.on.net>


>> Vegemite is easy- it's very readily available, which my dad loves 
>> and the rest of us hate. I also just found out that an import 
> store 
>> in the area has one of my favorite things in the whole world (and 
> my 
>> dad's, too),so I'm going to stock up-I found Violet Crumbles in 
>> Minnesota! Since the Australian store closed (maybe 15 years ago), 
>> I've only had 1 Violet Crumble, and I adore them. If I can find 
>> Pavlova, I'm going to get several. I know a specialty grocery 
> store that used to carry it, but I don't know if they do anymore.
>> So Violet Crumbles, Vegemite, and maybe Pavlova. Aussies- Wolfie 
> or anyone else- any suggestions on wonderful Australian foods that I 
>> should look for?

Americans often don't like vegemite because of the way they use it,
got to go easy with it. funny thing was that I had a very sick kitty
and the vet gave him an IV bag full of vitamin B which smelt just like
Vegemite.

Lets see, Pollywaffle... like a rough wafer tube filled with marshmallow
and choc coated... not a fave, but nice. I agree with you on violet
crumble. Tim Tams... a chocolate biscuit which has a nice trick where
you can bite the ends off and suck up coffee. a couple of years ago
an american acress came here and was eating them, loved them, went home
and was amazed that she couldn't get them there... the company sent her
a huge box of them. they're popular, so it's be worth sending those.

Although not nearly as good as they used to be are freddo frogs, but
they would be good for an ex-patriot to get their hands on.

Better tasting are caramello koalas.

Savory shapes and bbq shapes [pizza shapes, nacho shapes etc] great to
snack on... nacho is a new flavour, the old ones and most popular are
the plain shapes (savoury) or BBQ.

Berocca, big fizzy pill which you drop into a glass of water, makes
a fizzy orange drink of vitamin B... great for the morning after a big
party.

That's about all I can think of.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun 15 23:48:01 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:48:01 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com>
References: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4491F1B1.5030401@internode.on.net>

Barb Fulton wrote:
> Barb  wrote:
> 
> snip
> 
>>> So Violet Crumbles, Vegemite, and maybe Pavlova. Aussies- Wolfie 
>> or anyone else- any suggestions on wonderful Australian foods that I 
>>> should look for?
>>>
>> Tonks:
>> So what is all of that?? Never heard of any of it. Educate me, 
>> please. Thanks.
>>
>> Tonks_op
>>
> 
> Barb now:
> 
> Violet Crumbles are pure heaven. They are a milk chocolate-covered 
> honeycomb candy- a candy bar. Vegemite is awful, in my opinion. It is 
> a dark brown (almost black) paste-I believe it is made from brewer's 
> yeast extract. 

Yes it is from yeast, but it tastes fine.
really really good on bread you made yourself which is still warm, 
heaven on a stick!

There is a bar similar to VC called Crumble, not quite as nice though.

I believe it is called Marmite in the UK.

Marmite is a bit different, similar though.
there is also Promite.

> Pavlova is a meringue 
> dessert that I haven't had in probably 20 years. I'm sure it can be 
> made from scratch, but I remember buying a Pavlova kit (in an egg-
> shaped container) at a high-end grocery store when I was in elementary 
> school-my mom and I made it for my girl scout troop. We decorated it 
> with fresh fruit and whipped cream, but I don't know if that's 
> typical, or just what we liked.

Yeah you can still get those eggs, it's a good way to go about it.
look up a recipe online, you can certainly do it from scratch...
the trick is getting the top of it to be flat so you can top it with
fruit and cream and whatever you want, sometimes you get a peak which
isn't very handy. you can top them with anything... the full monty
or just cream and a crushed up flake bar, or a few strawberries.

normally it's passionfruit, banana, strawberries, kiwi fruit, pineapple
with a base of cream.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun 15 23:48:44 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:48:44 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com>
References: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4491F1DC.3060507@internode.on.net>

Barb Fulton wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "storm" <miss_megan at ...> wrote:
>> Barb, are Tim Tams Australian? I have a feeling the might be. 

Yep, and they have varieties, different flavours now.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun 15 23:49:41 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:49:41 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food  Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <20060615061556.648F62CF4CA@mail01.chariot.net.au>
References: <e6qre4+sqlp@eGroups.com> <20060615061556.648F62CF4CA@mail01.chariot.net.au>
Message-ID: <4491F215.60802@internode.on.net>


> Tim Tams are indeed Australian, and they are the food of the gods. 
> Australians overseas often want to be sent care packages of Tim Tams - which 
> can best be described as a chocolate cream biscuit (or cookie for Americans) 
> covered with chocolate - and Vegemite - which can best be described as axel 
> grease with added salt (actually it's a yeast extract, a by product from 
> brewing beer - it's similar to the British Marmite, though not identical - 
> and it's typically eaten spread on sandwiches. It's highly nutritious and a 
> lot of people do like it - but I'm not one of them - boarding school cured 
> me of that!

haha, yes tim tams contain vegemite *wink*

Wolfie!



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jun 15 06:51:48 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hatley)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:51:48 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food
  Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com>
References: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20060615065148.987082CF4DA@mail01.chariot.net.au>

Barb Fulton writes: 

> Violet Crumbles are pure heaven. They are a milk chocolate-covered 
> honeycomb candy- a candy bar. Vegemite is awful, in my opinion. It is 
> a dark brown (almost black) paste-I believe it is made from brewer's 
> yeast extract. I need to leave the room when the jar is opened, 
> because the smell is so strong. My dad generally spreads it thinly on 
> toast. I believe it is called Marmite in the UK. Pavlova is a meringue 
> dessert that I haven't had in probably 20 years. I'm sure it can be 
> made from scratch, but I remember buying a Pavlova kit (in an egg-
> shaped container) at a high-end grocery store when I was in elementary 
> school-my mom and I made it for my girl scout troop. We decorated it 
> with fresh fruit and whipped cream, but I don't know if that's 
> typical, or just what we liked.

That is the most common topping for pavlova, yes, though crumbled up 
chocolate is also very popular. They can be made from scratch, and the egg 
shaped kits are still available as well, but nowadays most people tend to 
buy prepared pavlova shells and just add the topping. 

You can also buy small Pavlovas at some supermarkets and now I am going to 
on my way home - I've done an exam today. I deserve a treat.



From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 16 00:39:20 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:39:20 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food  Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <20060615065148.987082CF4DA@mail01.chariot.net.au>
References: <e6qr46+lvje@eGroups.com> <20060615065148.987082CF4DA@mail01.chariot.net.au>
Message-ID: <4491FDB8.3080707@internode.on.net>


> That is the most common topping for pavlova, yes, though crumbled up 
> chocolate is also very popular. They can be made from scratch, and the egg 
> shaped kits are still available as well, but nowadays most people tend to 
> buy prepared pavlova shells and just add the topping. 
> 
> You can also buy small Pavlovas at some supermarkets and now I am going to 
> on my way home - I've done an exam today. I deserve a treat.

Yes, most people buy the shells, it's easier and they don't have those 
peaks which I mentioned before. on the other hand, pavlova needs to be
very fresh, cause they go hard and crunchy after a while which isn't
good, so it's a toss up over which one you get.

Also, don't let a Kiwi hear you say Pavlova is Aussie, they will tell
you they come from New Zealand. there has been somewhat of a feud 
between aussies and kiwis over it for years.

Wolfie!



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jun 15 13:01:00 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:01:00 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <4491F033.1030807@internode.on.net>
References: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4491E6AC.30362.B95878@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

On 15 Jun 2006 at 16:41, Wolfie! wrote:

> Although not nearly as good as they used to be are freddo frogs, but
> they would be good for an ex-patriot to get their hands on.

And for a Harry Potter connection - Freddo Frogs are chocolate frogs and Australians have 
been eating them since the 1930s. I believe they first got to the UK in small numbers starting 
in the 1960s.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 16 07:53:29 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:53:29 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Australian Food (was Re: Food Question--before
 I forget again)
In-Reply-To: <4491E6AC.30362.B95878@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
References: <e6qkv7+m076@eGroups.com> <4491E6AC.30362.B95878@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
Message-ID: <44926379.6030006@internode.on.net>

Shaun Hately wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2006 at 16:41, Wolfie! wrote:
> 
>> Although not nearly as good as they used to be are freddo frogs, but
>> they would be good for an ex-patriot to get their hands on.
> 
> And for a Harry Potter connection - Freddo Frogs are chocolate frogs and Australians have 
> been eating them since the 1930s. I believe they first got to the UK in small numbers starting 
> in the 1960s.

mmm they're a lot smaller, flatter and more expensive now.

Should anyone come here, there's Haighs chocolate shop in Melbourne,
they make their own ones :)

http://haighschocolates.com.au/index.html

Wolfie!



From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 15 17:38:40 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:38:40 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
Message-ID: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>

Nutella is cocoa Hazlenut Butter, sort of like chocolate peanut butter
in concept. It was originally invented in Italy during WWII when cocoa
and chocolate prices were sky high. The factory was moved to the
United States, and now, worldwide, Nutella out sells all brands of
peanut butter combined.

The odd thing is, I've only seen references to it in English
literature, and have never seen a jar of it until I became aware of it
through that source. There are a very very few high end grocery stores
and specialty stores that carry it. 

In my childhood it was completely unheard of. Yet, somehow, worldwide
it is more popular than peanut butter and it is manufactured in the
USA. Maybe American kids just aren't as hip are the kids in the rest
of the world when it comes to eating toast.

Just curious if people are familiar with this product, and what part
it play in your childhood?

Nutella-
http://www.nutellausa.com/history2.htm

Made by...

Ferrero-
http://www.ferrerousa.com/

I bought a jar once at a high end grocer, never got around to trying
it on toast, just took a spoon and ate it right out of the jar.

Steve/bboyminn






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 18:05:47 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:05:47 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
References: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606151105g6fe340d5kcf1fa624115ae9a4@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/15/06, Steve <bboyminn at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The odd thing is, I've only seen references to it in English
> literature, and have never seen a jar of it until I became aware of it
> through that source. There are a very very few high end grocery stores
> and specialty stores that carry it.

High end? {g}  I've seen it sold at Costco--of course, jumbo-sized.

I haven't tried Nutella yet but it sounds yummy... oh, wait, maybe I
did try it on bread as part of Costco's weekend samples?  I don't
remember. :-(

Dina



From miles at martinbraeutigam.de  Thu Jun 15 18:07:27 2006
From: miles at martinbraeutigam.de (Miles)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:07:27 +0200
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
References: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00b301c690a6$90727970$14b2a8c0@rechnerchen>

Steve wrote:
> Nutella is cocoa Hazlenut Butter, sort of like chocolate peanut butter
> in concept. It was originally invented in Italy during WWII when cocoa
> and chocolate prices were sky high. The factory was moved to the
> United States, and now, worldwide, Nutella out sells all brands of
> peanut butter combined.

"The factory" was definitely not "moved" to the USA. Ferrero (the Italian
company that invented Nutella) is operating worldwide, producing in the USA
as well - but not only there (why should they do it`?).

Nutella is very popular in Germany, it was introduced here in 1964. 99% of
all children know it and most of them like it. Though there are similar
products sold and eaten as well, Nutella is the most popular product among
all chocolate spreads.

Ferrero is a very successful company, producing a wide variety of sweets
with and without chocolate, for example the most popular "Mon Cheri", a
praline with dark chocolate, a whole cherry and cherry liqueur.

Miles, avoiding Nutella, since any glass he buys is empty much too fast...




From lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 15 20:15:00 2006
From: lwilliams15209 at yahoo.com (lwilliams15209)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:15:00 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
Message-ID: <e6sf44+u7vv@eGroups.com>


Steve/bboyminn wrote:


<<Just curious if people are familiar with this product, and what 
partit play in your childhood?>>

  
Linda writes: 

  I tried Nutella for the first time as an exchange student in 
Germany in 1986. When I returned to the USA, I brought a container 
of it home with me. No one here had ever heard of it prior to that 
time.
  Several years later, it became possible to find it in nearly any 
grocery store, high-end or not.
  I love nutella, especially on German Broetchen (like a bread 
roll)... warm Broetchen with butter and nutella. It all brings back 
such fond memories of breakfast in Germany.

  Linda







From ms-tamany at rcn.com  Thu Jun 15 20:58:41 2006
From: ms-tamany at rcn.com (Tammy Rizzo)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:58:41 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6sf44+u7vv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <030a01c690be$7b875310$6400a8c0@zippywoo>

 


Steve/bboyminn wrote:

<<Just curious if people are familiar with this product, and what 
partit play in your childhood?>>

Linda writes: 

I tried Nutella for the first time as an exchange student in 
Germany in 1986. When I returned to the USA, I brought a container 
of it home with me. No one here had ever heard of it prior to that 
time.
Several years later, it became possible to find it in nearly any 
grocery store, high-end or not.
I love nutella, especially on German Broetchen (like a bread 
roll)... warm Broetchen with butter and nutella. It all brings back 
such fond memories of breakfast in Germany.

Linda


.
 
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714&grpId=2766527&grpspId=1602544108&msgId
=30180&stime=1150402596> 
 
[Now Tammy says: ] When I was eight, the Army sent my dad to Germany, and we
followed a short while later.  He met us at the airport and took us to the
hotel,  gave my mom a brand new jar of Nutella, and suggested that we might
like it.  When Dad came back about two hours later, he said, "So, how about
some Nutella sandwiches?"  Mom said, "Sure thing!  Let's go get some
Nutella!"  We'd eaten the whole thing with our fingers, since there wasn't
bread or a knife or spoon or anything!  It was the beginning of a long and
wonderful relationship with Nutella!  :-D
 
Tammy Rizzo
ms-tamany at rcn.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu  Thu Jun 15 19:10:28 2006
From: Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu (*Colleen G.*)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:10:28 -0400
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
Message-ID: <200606151510.AA21954674@cix.csi.cuny.edu>


Steve/bboyminn:
>> Nutella is cocoa Hazlenut Butter, sort of like chocolate peanut butter in concept. <snip> There are a very very few high end grocery stores and specialty stores that carry it.

In my childhood it was completely unheard of. <snip>

Just curious if people are familiar with this product, and what part it play in your childhood?

I bought a jar once at a high end grocer, never got around to trying it on toast, just took a spoon and ate it right out of the jar. <<



I am familiar with this product.  I personally do not care for it.  I grew up and still live in an all Italian neighborhood and many of my neighbors eat it and that was how I was introduced to it.  Growing up as a child, my best friend would eat Nutella and fluff sandwiches.

As for it being sold in "very, very few high end grocery stores and specialty stores", I do not know where you live, but here in New York, I see it all over the place and in all of my local grocery stores.  It isn't expensive, either.


       ?.?*?)
 *?.?? (?.? Colleen

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. - Kurt Cobain






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 01:50:02 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:50:02 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6fjm4+8chc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6t2oa+ggil@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the email address to send complaints and comments to
> Yahoo???
> 
> Seems like last time they made substantial changes there was a link on
> the group pages for awhile where you could give feedback. I don't see
> that this time.
> 
> The threaded/unthreaded message thing is my greatest complaint.
> Although I see Yahoo has changed their terminology to grouped by
> 'Topic' or by 'Message'. 'Topic' is that each discussion subject has
> all the related posts shown in a single group. I used to like this,
> but I discovered I was missing messages when people would post in an
> old thread and it would be several pages back in Threaded or Topic mode.
> 
> So, I switched to Message mode so the most recent posts would be at
> the top of that main Groups page and at the bottom of the Main Message
> List.
> 
> However, underneath individual post, it always defaults to 'Topic' or
> Threaded mode, and the Topic and Message list have NEVER been in sync
> with respect to keeping track of Read and Unread Posts.
> 
> Right now they are so hopelessly out of sync that it is next to
> impossible to keep track of what I have and haven't read, and in a
> group with a very high posting rate like the main group, that is
> relatively important. 
> 
> I know when the previous set of changes were implimented, we
> complained loudly and got many of the missing features re-instated.
> 
> Overal, the newest changes are generally good, but it is frustrating
> when none of the message lists are in sync relative to the posts I
> have and haven't Read.
> 
> So, who do I complain to? Anybody have the email address or a link to
> an on-line Feedback Link?
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>


Hi, Steve. I hate the new improvements, too, and sent a complaint that
I'm sure will be ignored using the means of contacting them that Tonks
suggested. I've found a way to get around the system defaulting to
Topic, reversing the order of the messages to newest first, and not
marking the links as read. I start with the Message Index, read the
message, and hit the back button to return to the Message Index. I
spent a whole day struggling with the new set-up before I discovered
this method. The only time it causes a problem is when I reply to the
message, when I have to hit the Back button about five times before
returning to the Message Index. It's annoying at first, but it becomes
automatic after ten messages or so.

Glad I'm not the only one who hates the new "improvements"!

Carol, who has also managed to lose Quicktime and Norton Anti-Virus
even though they still appear to be installed on her computer and
hopes the problem isn't that she stupidly opened one of those "New
Graphic Site" links to see if it was spam (it was ostensibly from a
list member I correspond with who wouldn't have sent me anything, erm,
"graphic")






From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Fri Jun 16 02:36:58 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:36:58 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <00b301c690a6$90727970$14b2a8c0@rechnerchen>
Message-ID: <e6t5ga+qlk8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Miles" <miles at ...> wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
> > Nutella is cocoa Hazlenut Butter, sort of like chocolate peanut 
butter
> > in concept. It was originally invented in Italy during WWII when 
cocoa
> > and chocolate prices were sky high. The factory was moved to the
> > United States, and now, worldwide, Nutella out sells all brands 
of
> > peanut butter combined.
> 
> "The factory" was definitely not "moved" to the USA. Ferrero (the 
Italian
> company that invented Nutella) is operating worldwide, producing 
in the USA
> as well - but not only there (why should they do it`?).
> 
> Nutella is very popular in Germany, it was introduced here in 
1964. 99% of
> all children know it and most of them like it. Though there are 
similar
> products sold and eaten as well, Nutella is the most popular 
product among
> all chocolate spreads.
> 
> Ferrero is a very successful company, producing a wide variety of 
sweets
> with and without chocolate, for example the most popular "Mon 
Cheri", a
> praline with dark chocolate, a whole cherry and cherry liqueur.
> 
> Miles, avoiding Nutella, since any glass he buys is empty much too 
fast...
>

Luckdragon now: cursing Ferrero for making something that sounds so 
good but is so deadly.  I'm deathly allergic to hazelnut and all 
treenuts. Nutella is sold in most grocery stores here in Ontario 
Canada, but obviously I've never tried it.









From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 03:04:45 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:04:45 -0000
Subject: Pronunciation of Metamorphmagus
In-Reply-To: <e6dmnm+7b6e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6t74d+9npo@eGroups.com>

> bboyminn wrote:
<snip>
>
> Probably the closest correct version would be -
> 
> Met-ta morf may guss

Carol responds:
I'd say you're correct here. Compare the pronunciation of 
Animagus" in the films: Roughly An-ih-MAY-guss (accent on the third
syllable). For the plural, ask yourself how you would pronounce "Magi"
as in "Gift of the Magi," and there's your answer. (I pronounce it
"MAY-jie," with two long vowels and a soft "g," even though I use a
hard "g" for "magus" [MAY-guss]).

BTW, did anyone notice in the GoF film that Karkaroff pronounced
"Cruciatus" as "Crew-see-AY-tus" and Neville pronounced it
"Crew-see-A-tuss" (short "a" as in "cat")? Karkaroff's sounded more
British to me somehow, even though he's presumably supposed to be a
Hogwarts-educated Russian. Neville's sounded almost American (almost
like my pronunciation of the word).

Since these aren't real words, I guess it doesn't matter, but it's fun
to talk about.

Carol, who just talked her mother through using msconfig on the Run
menu and feels as if she deserves a hero medal for patience and
perseverance







From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 16 20:15:40 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:15:40 -0700
Subject: weird eater egg in windows notepad
Message-ID: <4493116C.3040204@internode.on.net>

Open notepad and copy and paste the following text
into it, do not alter it in any form.

Bush hid the facts

Now save the file just as it is without renaming it.

Now open it.

Thanks Joe.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 16 20:19:53 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:19:53 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
References: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44931269.9030201@internode.on.net>

Nutella is very common in australia, it's advertised on tv a lot.

You can buy the jar, and often small white plastic packs which are
about an inch long and 2cm deep [sorry about mixing measurements].
and you get a small plastic spatula with it to eat it just as it is.
which is how I prefer it.

Mum likes it on bread, but I don't.

Then there is the version which is half chocolate and half white,
nutella only makes the chocolate version, not sure what the white
alone is... maybe just hazelnut with no chocolate.

Wolfie!




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 03:28:27 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:28:27 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <20060612023316.47332.qmail@web53209.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e6t8gr+2kn5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sue Wartell <swartell at ...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> 
> I have a little box on the right side of my messages
> that says:
> 
>        We Made Changes
>        Your Yahoo! Groups email is all new.
> 
>        Learn More
> 
>        Share Feedback
> 
> The bottom 2 lines are links.  On the other hand, I'm
> not seeing some of the things others are reporting, so
> I don't know if my view is entirely different than
> yours.  I'm looking at Yahoo!Mail, which I get to from
> My Yahoo.
> 
> HTH,
> Sue (with enough different mail accounts that I barely
> notice format changes in any one of them)

Carol responds:
I think the people who are unhappy with the changes (including me!)
are those who post from the list, not from their e-mail. However,
there's a similar link on the left side of the page in the Yahoo!
Groups Tips Box. the text keeps changing, but if you click on th e
link (which at the moment says "Check it out!"), you'll go to the new
e-mail information page, which includes a Feedback link. We may be
able to complain from there. (I, erm, *haven't* "checked it out.")

Carol







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 03:42:48 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:42:48 -0000
Subject: New Graphic site virus
Message-ID: <e6t9bo+lmmk@eGroups.com>

Has anyone who opened one of those messages had any problems or is the
"virus" just an annoyance (replicating the message and sending it to
everyone in your Yahoo e-mail)? I received about five of the things
and opened one. Should have deleted them all unread, I know, but it
was supposedly from a list member I correspond with.

Carol, who intends to get a new computer soon anyway, fortunately!






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 03:45:45 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:45:45 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
Message-ID: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>

I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?

Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys






From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 16 21:28:15 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:28:15 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
References: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4493226F.9040703@internode.on.net>

justcarol67 wrote:
> I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?

When I first got a computer, I began chatting online and began to
notice that my shop bought computer had flaws, I have not bought one
since.

It's far better to make one from scratch.

This way you can get all the best stuff for it.

A really good motherboard [msi]
a good soundcard [creative labs are fine],
a solidly performing videocard [nvida or ati brand] good memory such
as kingston, pny or micron, speakers - get jbl, bose, harman/kardon or 
yamaha and a hard drive like seagate.

You can go to some computer shops where you can order the parts and they
will build it for you.

A lot of the shop bouught branded computers come with software you'd
never really use but pay for, the very cheap models come stuffed with
adware. the worst computers have sound and videocard built right into
the motherboard which leaves no room for an upgrade.

Consider this too.

When you do upgrade later, and you find that your monitor, speakers,
keyboard and mouse still work well... why should you have to buy them
again?

I have carried my monitor etc over from two computer upgrades so far
and that includes the videocard and soundcard from the old machine!

You save money and get better stuff.

Oh, as a side note, I utterly loath printers, they're a massive waste
of money with repairs and ink wastage.

Wolfie!



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 05:22:52 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:22:52 -0000
Subject: New Graphic site virus
In-Reply-To: <e6t9bo+lmmk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6tf7c+lmk1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Has anyone who opened one of those messages had any problems or is the
> "virus" just an annoyance (replicating the message and sending it to
> everyone in your Yahoo e-mail)? I received about five of the things
> and opened one. Should have deleted them all unread, I know, but it
> was supposedly from a list member I correspond with.
> 
> Carol, who intends to get a new computer soon anyway, fortunately!
>

Tonks:
I opened a couple of them before I knew. They were from people that I 
reconized as being on the list. I wrote to one asking what it was and 
why was I getting it and they wrote back and said it was a virus. I did 
a scan of my computer and nothing came up.

I don't really know that much about computers, but can't some of these 
things just sit around and wait, hidden in your computer until they are 
called. Like a 'sleeper' cell or something?  But I think my firewall 
softwear has taken care of it. I hope!!

Tonks_op







From aberforthsgoat at hispeed.ch  Fri Jun 16 05:15:50 2006
From: aberforthsgoat at hispeed.ch (Mike & Susan Gray)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:15:50 +0200
Subject: Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6s5v0+ugkk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c69103$eeefa510$0300a8c0@hwin>

> Just curious if people are familiar with this product, and 
> what part it play in your childhood?
> 
> Nutella-
> http://www.nutellausa.com/history2.htm

Nutella. Ahhh.

Nutella is what makes the world go round - and a few waistlines to boot.
Very good stuff indeed.

I ate it as a kid in Italy and I eat it now in Switzerland when I'm in a
ravenously hedonistic mood. I saw it in stores in Holland, and I *think*
they have it in the UK (though I'm not sure on that one) - but I've never
seen it in the US. 

BTW, one the truly great meetings of cultures is the nutella-peanutbutter
sandwitch. Preferably on toasted white bread spread first with fresh butter,
then topped with generous portions of n and pb. Drunk with a large glass of
whole cream milk, it gets very close to Kant's doctrine of the sublime.

Baaaaaa,

Mike the Once and Former Goat





From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 05:29:13 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:29:13 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6tfj9+968a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
> 
> Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
> afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys
>

Tonks:
I would *call* Dell and talk to someone and have them build it the 
way that you want. If you get the home section they are very 
patience and helpful.  I would have nothing but Dell. Their service 
is very good. Be sure to get the extended service. I have heard that 
Compac is very bad. So I would not trust other brands myself. I just 
love the Dell customer service.

Tonks_op










From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 06:30:24 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:30:24 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6tfj9+968a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6tj60+kq1p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
> <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> > online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> > would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
> > 
snip

Doddie here: 

  The best buys I have ever made was buying display models from a 
franchise like "Best Buy" or "Circuit City" etc....and then purchasing 
the warranty...it typically saved 1 to 3 thousand dollars...The money 
I saved from purchasing a "floor model" despite purchasing said 
warranty...has really worked out for me..

DD







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun 16 06:30:44 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:30:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New Graphic site virus
In-Reply-To: <e6tf7c+lmk1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001001c6910e$660856b0$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Viruses can, indeed, sleep untill a certain date or some other trigger.
Usually, however, a good virus checker will find them and crush them before
they launch, assuming that the virus checker is very regularly updated and
assuming the definitions of the virus are known.

I got one of those, too, but, so far, I showed clear.

Cheers,

Lee :-)




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 06:22:34 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:22:34 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6t2oa+ggil@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6tina+3kph@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> 
> Hi, Steve. I hate the new improvements, too, and sent 
> a complaint that I'm sure will be ignored using the 
> means of contacting them that Tonkssuggested. I've 
> found a way to get around the system defaulting to
> Topic, reversing the order of the messages to newest 
> first, and not marking the links as read. ...
> 
> Glad I'm not the only one who hates the new "improvements"!
> 
> Carol, who has also managed to lose Quicktime and Norton 
> Anti-Virus even though they still appear to be installed 
> on her computer and hopes the problem isn't that she 
> stupidly opened one of those "New Graphic Site" links to 
> see if it was spam (it was ostensibly from a list member 
> I correspond with who wouldn't have sent me anything, erm,
> "graphic")
>

bboyminn:

I did send a complaint and got a response that said they were
aware of the problem and working on it. Now, just before entering
this group, I found an email asking me to fill our a customer 
service survey.

I will note at the last big set of changes, we were able to 
get them to add, return, or modify things they had changed, 
so their is some hope.

Another problem I noticed is that the text no longer wraps 
properly when you view a message. It usually look something 
like this -


The list is very high volume, so to keep your inbox from 
overflowing, 
you may wish to set your membership to "Special Notices"
and check the posts here.


Regarding the 'New Graphic Site' virus, I think it only works with
Yahoo Mail, so it shouldn't effect your other programs. Maybe you have
another virius, update your virus files and run a scan. It also
wouldn't hurt to run and Ad-Aware scan. Also, I'm pretty sure that
'Graphic Site' virus is a JAVA script, so run your JAVA console from
the [Start][Settings][Control Panel] then select the [Java] icon, and
either 'Clear the Cache' or 'Delete Files' depending on the version
you have.

Before you do this make sure any 'New Graphic Site' emails have been
deleted from your Inbox AND from your /TRASH/.

Also note that I use the web interface, so the group isn't sent to any
of my email accounts. 

To get around the confusion over Read/Unread message marks, I just
open a new TAB from the main message list. Mozilla's Tabbed Browsing
is really nice. When I am done reading, I merely close the Tab with
the post, and go back to the main list. But still when I am reading a
post, the other post listed underneath in the thread list are not
marked as Read. So, I have no idea what I have and haven't read
without going back to the main list, and even doing that sometimes
it's hard to find the correct thread post to read next. 

I will note that never in all the time I have been using Yahoo Groups,
which is many year, never have the Read/Unread list for Topic and
Message been coordinated. Read messages in one never appeared in the
other. Still, there must be some way to fix it, it's making keeping
track of the group next to impossible.

Regards,
Steve/bboyminn







From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 06:24:34 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:24:34 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6t5ga+qlk8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6tir2+9dev@eGroups.com>

Snipity snip(still chuckling at my most recent typo--sorry had to 
mention it)

 Luckdragon now: cursing Ferrero for making something that sounds so 
> good but is so deadly.  I'm deathly allergic to hazelnut and all 
> treenuts. Nutella is sold in most grocery stores here in Ontario 
> Canada, but obviously I've never tried it.

Doddie here:

Chin up...my son is not only allergic to all tree nuts( including 
coconuts)...but is also alergic to chocolate...and NON-tree nuts(i.e. 
peanuts, sunflower seeds/sunflower oils, cottonseeds/cottonseed oil, 
peanuts...if you take a good gander at indgredients you will find my 
son to be allergic to 90 percent of all chips/crisps, cannot ever 
order french fries because of the oils they may use, can never have a 
sesame seed bun because he allergic to the seeds...also....can never  
eat chinese from a chinese restaurant whose pots/pans/utensils/foods 
etc. ever came into contact with sesame seed or peanut oils...

My son's allergic reaction is anaphylaxis....(where in the throat 
closes due to sweeling and it becomes impossible to breathe)

My son's most deadly allergic reaction is to red dye #40...

I almost lost him this week after I took him to the dentist for a 
tooth cleaning where they polished his teeth with a red-colored-
strawberry flavored tooth polish... *heavy sigh*

Red dye 40 is impossible to skin scratch for...so when we tell the 
professionals they do not believe it....

It's sad really when you consider the most popular meds containing red 
dye 40 are tylenol(the words on the tablet) and ibuprofin(the coating 
on the tablet)...

Doddie
(who knows Nutella is a choco/hazelnut "peanut butter" that she must 
keep far, far from home...but has mad cravings for honey, bananna, and 
nutella sanwiches...mmmmm hazel nuts!)







From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jun 16 06:26:46 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:26:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c6910d$d9e5b470$65a4a8c0@rosie>

E-Machines is the best, I think, and they're affiliated with Gateway.  They
have the least amount of "junk" software included with their bundling and
are usually very reliable.  Art recently got a Gateway laptop and it's
lovely!

Cheers,

Lee :-)




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jun 16 08:17:18 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:17:18 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] weird eater egg in windows notepad
In-Reply-To: <4493116C.3040204@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <4492F5AE.25408.30342A@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

On 16 Jun 2006 at 13:15, Wolfie! wrote:

> Open notepad and copy and paste the following text
> into it, do not alter it in any form.
> 
> Bush hid the facts
> 
> Now save the file just as it is without renaming it.
> 
> Now open it.
> 
> Thanks Joe.

It's not an Easter egg - it's a bug.

Notepad reacts oddly to certain small text files with words of certain lengths in a pattern - and 
this happens to fit the pattern.

This app can break

also does it, because it fits the same pattern.

4-letter-word 3-letter-word 3-letter-word 5-letter-word

It doesn't happen with every sentence that fits the pattern, but it does with quite a few.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun 17 01:15:45 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:15:45 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6910d$d9e5b470$65a4a8c0@rosie>
References: <000f01c6910d$d9e5b470$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <449357C1.5000908@internode.on.net>

(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> E-Machines is the best, I think, and they're affiliated with Gateway.  They
> have the least amount of "junk" software included with their bundling and
> are usually very reliable.  Art recently got a Gateway laptop and it's
> lovely!

I don't know about the company, so can't pass comment.

A copy of windows is about the only program anyone needs
excepting drivers for the various cards inside the unit.

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 11:54:04 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:54:04 -0400
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
References: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606160454m74f5731u1bb3ecdd1fe3c03e@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/15/06, justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
> online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
> would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
>
> Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
> afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys

Heh, get a computer at Costco.  They have a 'lifetime guarantee for
satisfaction' (or as long as Costco is open for business).  What some
folk are doing are buying electronics at Costco, and then a year or
two later, returning the equipment for refunds toward newer models.
Although, you can't abuse this system too much.  I kid you not.
Costco has a very liberal return policy.

Many of the 'major' computer companies allow you to customize and I'd
recommend doing so, unless you get such a honey of a deal to leave the
machine 'as-is' and it meets your needs.

As to 'major' computer brands, I've never bought a computer from Dell.
 I've bought a Compaq in 1995 (nice), Compaq in 1999 (worst machine,
evah!), Gateway in 2000 (my favorite that I'm using now but it's
showing signs of my use and abuse), a custom built AMD processor-based
model, and the computer I built myself this year.

Offhand, I used an Intel motherboard, Intel processor (BTW, Intel and
AMD prices will drop in their upcoming war as Intel releases a new
line of processors), Nvidia video card, Corsair RAM, Western Digital
Raptor drive (OS), Hitachi drive (storage), NEC DVD-+RW/CD-RW burner,
Thermaltake case and CPU fan/cooler, and I ripped out the floppy drive
from the 1995 Compaq.  I did choose a Dell flat monitor and Logitech
speakers (inexpensive and they do the job just fine).  No separate
soundcard yet because onboard sound is acceptable.

Oh yeah, I sleep on top of a 1995 Dell laptop I bought used years ago
with its hinges cracked/broken--when laptop computers were the size of
Samsonite luggage. ;-)

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun 17 05:11:41 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:11:41 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606160454m74f5731u1bb3ecdd1fe3c03e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com> <1a2738400606160454m74f5731u1bb3ecdd1fe3c03e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44938F0D.4040909@internode.on.net>


> As to 'major' computer brands, I've never bought a computer from Dell.
>  I've bought a Compaq in 1995 (nice), Compaq in 1999 (worst machine,
> evah!), Gateway in 2000 (my favorite that I'm using now but it's
> showing signs of my use and abuse), a custom built AMD processor-based
> model, and the computer I built myself this year.

Yeah, because HP own compaq now and HP make the worst computers ever.

Wolfie!



From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Fri Jun 16 07:50:20 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:50:20 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New Graphic site virus
Message-ID: <4bd.1d06292.31c3bcbc@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/15/06 11:46:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:


> Has anyone who opened one of those messages had any problems or is the
> "virus" just an annoyance (replicating the message and sending it to
> everyone in your Yahoo e-mail)? I received about five of the things
> and opened one. Should have deleted them all unread, I know, but it
> was supposedly from a list member I correspond with.
> 
> Carol, who intends to get a new computer soon anyway, fortunately!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 

I get the group's posts in individual emails so I opened it not knowing I 
shouldn't have. It came from the group along with about a thousand others with 
that heading -- okay, so I'm exagerating a bit -- so I just thought someone 
started a new thread. So far, fingers crossed, my computer hasn't crashed and is 
not doing anything out of the ordinary -- not that my computer does anything in 
an ordinary way to begin with. It would appear that your assessment of the 
virus is probably correct.

Sandy


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 14:23:20 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:23:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <44938F0D.4040909@internode.on.net>
References: <e6t9h9+nm8j@eGroups.com>
	 <1a2738400606160454m74f5731u1bb3ecdd1fe3c03e@mail.gmail.com>
	 <44938F0D.4040909@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606160723k457c9757x59312ed8386803b5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> > As to 'major' computer brands, I've never bought a computer from Dell.
> >  I've bought a Compaq in 1995 (nice), Compaq in 1999 (worst machine,
> > evah!), Gateway in 2000 (my favorite that I'm using now but it's
> > showing signs of my use and abuse), a custom built AMD processor-based
> > model, and the computer I built myself this year.
>
> Yeah, because HP own compaq now and HP make the worst computers ever.

Yep, *horrible* experience the second time.  At first, Compaq was
fairly good, and then, they merged with Tandy and HP.  I remember the
second Compaq had a motherboard failure within months of new purchase
and I had to take the thing to Radio Shack for warranty repairs since
Radio Shack was "an authorized dealer" (I bought the computer via
Compaq's site).  Since then, even after the mobo replacement, the
tower has had frequent blue screens of death, and at one point, I
started crying in frustration (that was within the first six months).

At least my Gateway *earned* its aging/failing status because I've let
that computer run 24/7 for weeks straight (heavy internet usage and
video capture/editing sucking up resources) over the course of six
years--on top of unfriendly environment conditions.  Dunno how well
Gateways hold up now but that moo-machine will hold a fond spot for
me.

Both my Compaqs = scrap pile now.  I'm ripping them for certain parts.

Dina



From barbfulton at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 15:18:14 2006
From: barbfulton at yahoo.com (Barb Fulton)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:18:14 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6tir2+9dev@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6ui3m+nbjm@eGroups.com>

> snip lots and lots

Steve,

IIRC, you're in Minnesota, like me? My local Cub Foods has Nutella-
it's next to the Peanut Butter. Milky Way (I think) has a similar 
product, but doesn't come close in taste, IMO, to Nutela.

In high school, we took a band trip to Norway, and I was introduced 
to Nutella. Yum! In college, I was an exchange student in Denmark, 
and my host family ate a LOT of Nutella-often every day. I got so 
used to having it and was sad that I wouldn't be able to find it in 
the States. I got back and wow, there it was! Now it's even cheaper-
maybe $3 for a container, I think? I haven't bought any for a long 
time, because I don't really want to teach my 2 yar old to eat half 
a jar in 5 minutes with a spoon, just like mommy!

Anyway, if you're in MN like I think, you should be able to find it 
at Cub. Don't know about other grocery stores.

-Barb






From Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu  Fri Jun 16 16:16:38 2006
From: Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu (*Colleen G.*)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:16:38 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question for the computer experts
Message-ID: <200606161216.AA23527540@cix.csi.cuny.edu>


I wouldn't say that I am a computer expert, but I do consider myself a computer geek. :O)

I went and bought a computer at a well known store and had nothing but problems with it from the day I brought it home.  It was the top of the line computer at the time I purchased it and cost over $2,200.    

I have since gotten rid of that computer and purchased a Dell computer, on-line, in December.  It was the best thing I have ever done.  You can chose what system, programs and feature you want.  You can also choose the size and type of monitor (flat screen or regular) that you want, as well as different keyboards.  They also give you an option of paying it off month by month, with as little as $18 a month as a payment.  I got one of the higher priced systems, a 19inch flat panel monitor, upgraded keyboard and mouse and a CD burner and it cost me less than $1,100.

Their customer service is excellent and I have not had a problem with the system or dealing with Dell.  I use a Dell computer at work as well, and my mom and sister both have one.  I highly recommend them.



      ?.?*?) 
 *?.?? (?.? Colleen

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. - Kurt Cobain

It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. - Harry Potter and The Sorcerers Stone





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From: "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date:  Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:45:45 -0000

>I rahter desperately need a new computer. Should I just order one
>online (Dell, for example), or is there a line/brand/chain that you
>would recommend for reliability, quality, and fair pricing?
>
>Carol, who is thinking of buying one from a local merchant but is
>afraid he'll be forced out of business by the big guys
>
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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 17:22:41 2006
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:22:41 -0400
Subject: Want to hear me to some fandom-news?
Message-ID: <5913e6f80606161022r37ddefd2n3afbea439266c8f1@mail.gmail.com>

FictionAlley's second podcast - SpellCast - is now up via iTunes at
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=156422019
(and on our website at http://www.spell-cast.com). I do the fandom
news - this week, talking about Patronus 2006 in Copenhagen, the Dan
Radcliffe Birthday Fundraiser at DanRadcliffe.com, and a few other
subjects. Now, I personally think I sound bizarre, but people always
say that about themselves - so give it a listen? Hopefully each
episode should keep getting better and better until we start doing
weekly podcasts and get the hang of it.

(Also, as a side note, if you're a big Luna fan, we'd love to have you
be part of our round table on the next episode - you can email us at
spellcast at fictionalley.org if you're a Luna fan with a microphpone
setup on your computer.)


Heidi



From Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu  Fri Jun 16 17:38:03 2006
From: Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu (*Colleen G.*)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:38:03 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
Message-ID: <200606161338.AA25100404@cix.csi.cuny.edu>


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Wolfie!" <wuff at internode.on.net>

<<Yeah, because HP own compaq now and HP make the worst computers ever.
Wolfie!>>



Who are you telling?  I had an HP Pavilion and from the day I bought it, I had nothing but trouble!  Never again...dell all the way for me.

      ?.?*?) 
 *?.?? (?.? Colleen

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. - Kurt Cobain

It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. - Harry Potter and The Sorcerers Stone 




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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 18:06:34 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:06:34 -0400
Subject: And 'dHell humour' Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Question for the computer experts
Message-ID: <1a2738400606161106g35b013b3hc8867cceec96d3f5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/16/06, *Colleen G.* <Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu> wrote:

> I have since gotten rid of that computer and purchased a Dell computer,
> on-line, in December.  It was the best thing I have ever done.  You can chose

> Their customer service is excellent and I have not had a problem with the
> system or dealing with Dell.  I use a Dell computer at work as well, and my
> mom and sister both have one.  I highly recommend them.

In a way, Dell is like Walmart.  Love them for their inexpensive
nature, hate them for how they get their prices.  Still, if you're
budget conscious, go with a Dell.  I'm on a budget and shop at
Walmart, even knowing it's killing competitors and has questionable
work force ethics.

As fond as I am of my Gateway, that company screwed itself in finances
awhile back (not the right business decisions and not cutthroat
enough).  I remember there used to be a Gateway store here (the
obvious cow print exterior paint job) but it was closed down.  While
it's still kicking now, Gateway's economic future is definitely
uncertain.

Whatever model you choose, please research.  Various computer forums
gab about users' personal experiences or if there are legit recalls...
and then there are these folk:
http://www.ihatedell.net/

The pics are kinda funny. :-)  There will always be someone not happy
about something.

http://www.ihatedell.net/forum/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=31  (What have
you done to your Dell?)

Though, not as funny as this one eBay listing where the guy *totally*
demolished his Dell and put it up for sale.  The commentary was what
cinched the humour.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LqloHbHlA40  Even if you can't see the
video, if you can listen to the commentary for a Dell sale on QVC,
it's funny.  A guy called in to say his Dell was useful for porno. :-D

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=251779733470478  Almost wish I
had done that to my second Compaq.  Thrown it out a window and
repeatedly hit it with a sledge hammer and pick.

Dina



From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 21:26:43 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:26:43 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6tfj9+968a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6v7mj+3307@eGroups.com>

Oh more thing about Dell. As I said I love mine. Had if for 4 years. 
It is a laptop. Doen't take a lot of space and if you wanted to take 
it with you, you could. I don't. I got it because I thought I might 
need too. But I like the fact that you don't have all of that 
equipment, like the processor, the keyboard and the monitor. It is 
all there in one small space saving unit.

Again I think their customer support is very good. It is in India, 
like all the rest of customer services these days. If you are a 
newbie like I was back then they help you with the silly questions, 
and when I got a worm a couple of years later, God bless them, they 
stayed right with me step by step for almost an hour while we got rid 
of it. I can't praise them enough.

I would look at the website if you don't have one of their catlogs. I 
prefer to look at the catalog and ponder long and hard what items I 
know I want in it.  Then when you know what features you want, CALL 
them on the phone. Don't be afraid to ask anything. The rep I have 
was SOoo kind and took the time to go over everything with me. They 
will build it just like you want and you can sometimes dicker a bit 
if you want something extra in place of something else.

You can even get some good prices on laptops now too.

Tonks







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 16 23:06:15 2006
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:06:15 -0000
Subject: What is Yahoo's Email Address???
In-Reply-To: <e6t8gr+2kn5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6vdh7+6nan@eGroups.com>

Carol wrote:
> I think the people who are unhappy with the changes (including me!)
> are those who post from the list, not from their e-mail. However,
> there's a similar link on the left side of the page in the Yahoo!
> Groups Tips Box. the text keeps changing, but if you click on the
> link (which at the moment says "Check it out!"), you'll go to the new
> e-mail information page, which includes a Feedback link. We may be
> able to complain from there. (I, erm, *haven't* "checked it out.")

KathyK:

You can provide feedback (complain ;-) )from there.  And for anyone 
who would like to go do so, here is a URL to a page that has the 
feedback button:

http://groups.yahoo.com/local/news.html

KathyK, who has already complained to Yahoo about some of the changes 
but also thanked them sincerely for the improvements to the message 
search.








From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sat Jun 17 02:13:40 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:13:40 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6tir2+9dev@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e6vogk+33gh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "doddiemoemoe" 
<doddiemoemoe at ...> wrote:
>
> Snipity snip(still chuckling at my most recent typo--sorry had to 
> mention it)
> 
>  Luckdragon now: cursing Ferrero for making something that sounds 
so 
> > good but is so deadly.  I'm deathly allergic to hazelnut and all 
> > treenuts. Nutella is sold in most grocery stores here in Ontario 
> > Canada, but obviously I've never tried it.
> 
> Doddie here:
> 
> Chin up...my son is not only allergic to all tree nuts( including 
> coconuts)...but is also alergic to chocolate...and NON-tree nuts
(i.e. 
> peanuts, sunflower seeds/sunflower oils, cottonseeds/cottonseed 
oil, 
> peanuts...if you take a good gander at indgredients you will find 
my 
> son to be allergic to 90 percent of all chips/crisps, cannot ever 
> order french fries because of the oils they may use, can never 
have a 
> sesame seed bun because he allergic to the seeds...also....can 
never  
> eat chinese from a chinese restaurant whose 
pots/pans/utensils/foods 
> etc. ever came into contact with sesame seed or peanut oils...
> 
> My son's allergic reaction is anaphylaxis....(where in the throat 
> closes due to sweeling and it becomes impossible to breathe)
> 
> My son's most deadly allergic reaction is to red dye #40...
> 
> I almost lost him this week after I took him to the dentist for a 
> tooth cleaning where they polished his teeth with a red-colored-
> strawberry flavored tooth polish... *heavy sigh*
>snip<

Luckdragon:
Poor Guy. I'm anaphylactic as well and have had a few close calls 
myself. watch out for kiwi as I had an anaphylactic reaction to that 
and was told by my alergist that it is related to tree nuts(never 
had a clue before that). I feel for you, knowing how impossible it 
is to find things that don't,with certainty, contain your son's 
allergens. I understand your frustration and fear. Best Wishes to 
you and your son! Take care.






From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 17 06:08:05 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:08:05 -0000
Subject: ...talking about food - Nutella - Allergies
In-Reply-To: <e6vogk+33gh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e70685+7had@eGroups.com>

> > 
> > > Luckdragon now: 
> > > cursing Ferrero for making something that sounds 
> > > so good but is so deadly.  I'm deathly allergic to 
> > > hazelnut and all treenuts. 

> > Doddie here:
> > 
> > Chin up...my son is not only allergic to all tree nuts
> > (including coconuts)...but is also alergic to chocolate
> > ...and NON-tree nuts...
> > ... my  son to be allergic to 90 percent of all chips/
> > crisps, cannot ever  order french fries because of the 
> > oils...

> Luckdragon:
> Poor Guy. I'm anaphylactic as well and have had a few close calls 
> myself. watch out for kiwi as I had an anaphylactic reaction to that 
> ... it is related to tree nuts(never 
> had a clue before that). ...


bboyminn:

Completely off the top of my head, but when you eat a KIWI aren't you
also eating the Kiwi seeds? It's been a while since I ate a Kiwi, but
isn't the center full of tiny little seeds? I'll bet anything, that is
what actually triggered your allergies.

Doddie, has your son ever eaten watermelon. If he is like most kids,
he is probably not to careful about not eating the seeds. That could
cause a problem is he is not aware of it.

I'm trying to think of other fruits that might have internal seeds
that one might eat accidentally, but I'm drawing a blank at the
moment. I could be something to watch out for though.

Steve/bboyminn






From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun 17 23:14:13 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:14:13 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: ...talking about food - Nutella - Allergies
In-Reply-To: <e70685+7had@eGroups.com>
References: <e70685+7had@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44948CC5.5030007@internode.on.net>


> I'm trying to think of other fruits that might have internal seeds
> that one might eat accidentally, but I'm drawing a blank at the
> moment. I could be something to watch out for though.

Passionfruit, strawberries.

There is a seedless watermelon, really nice to plough through
as you don't have to spit out seeds all the time.

Wolfie!



From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 17 06:19:07 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:19:07 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e6vogk+33gh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e706sr+tman@eGroups.com>

big huge snip:
> 
> Luckdragon:
> Poor Guy. I'm anaphylactic as well and have had a few close calls 
> myself. watch out for kiwi as I had an anaphylactic reaction to that 
> and was told by my alergist that it is related to tree nuts(never 
> had a clue before that). I feel for you, knowing how impossible it 
> is to find things that don't,with certainty, contain your son's 
> allergens. I understand your frustration and fear. Best Wishes to 
> you and your son! Take care.
>
Doddie here....my son cannot eat "kiwi" per se......he can eat the 
fruit, but not the seeds in the middle...the seeds are small, but 
numerous...

Doddie







From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 17 06:33:27 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:33:27 -0000
Subject: ...talking about food - Nutella - Allergies
In-Reply-To: <e70685+7had@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e707nn+rdsq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
> Doddie, has your son ever eaten watermelon. If he is like most 
kids,
> he is probably not to careful about not eating the seeds. That 
could
> cause a problem is he is not aware of it.
> 
> I'm trying to think of other fruits that might have internal seeds
> that one might eat accidentally, but I'm drawing a blank at the
> moment. I could be something to watch out for though.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>
Doddie here:

Of course I know all about internal seeds, as does my son.(after a 
trip to the ER due to his chewing on bird seed *sigh*)

I think some of the worse of the cause of his anaphalaxis over the 
years has been:

1.  eating chickens who have been raised on eating sunflower seeds...

2.  eating honey from bees that have pollinated a nut or seed 
orchard..

3. eating regular foods (like bread/milk/eggs/cheese that have red 
dye #40)...Sad, really, seeing as red dye is derived from insects 
95% of the time. This just discusts me as beets can supply quite the 
spectrums of "red"...yet business world chooses "insect dye" 
over "vegetable dye" ...*heavy sigh*

And finally, just to answer your question yes he has eaten 
watermelon....but only the watermelon I serve him...without seeds!
and yes, he knows what I serve him, and how and why..

Doddie
(who could write a book on this subject that would be longer than 
GOF and OOP combined! LOL)






From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sat Jun 17 13:14:48 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:14:48 -0000
Subject: ...talking about food - Nutella - Allergies re:Steve
In-Reply-To: <e70685+7had@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e70v88+es9a@eGroups.com>

> 
> > Luckdragon:
> > Poor Guy. I'm anaphylactic as well and have had a few close 
calls 
> > myself. watch out for kiwi as I had an anaphylactic reaction to 
that 
> > ... it is related to tree nuts(never 
> > had a clue before that). ...
> 
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Completely off the top of my head, but when you eat a KIWI aren't 
you
> also eating the Kiwi seeds? It's been a while since I ate a Kiwi, 
but
> isn't the center full of tiny little seeds? I'll bet anything, 
that is
> what actually triggered your allergies.

Luckdragon:
Actually a seed never got near my mouth. When I try new foods I 
touch the tiniest bit to the tip of my tongue and my tongue will 
tingle if I'm allergic. With the KIWI I just put a tiny piece of the 
green part to my tongue and forget the tingle, i got instant 
swelling. Thank God I did not bite a piece off and chew. Very Scary.








From rlgj86 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 17 15:34:19 2006
From: rlgj86 at yahoo.com (RandellG)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:34:19 -0000
Subject: PinkHairGreenEyes
Message-ID: <e717dr+bhpl@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know if the group PinkHairGreenEyes is still out there 
somewhere and if so can someone please give me a link to it.






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jun 17 22:07:12 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:07:12 -0400
Subject: Graphic Site Virus
Message-ID: <002101c6925a$62a1f150$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Hi Folks,

Just got my Snopes.com update and that "New Graphic Site" virus is
mentioned.
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/newgraphic.asp
It gives a link for further info.

Cheers,

Lee

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From rlgj86 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 17 23:39:21 2006
From: rlgj86 at yahoo.com (RandellG)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:39:21 -0000
Subject: Looking for a group
Message-ID: <e723r9+vok8@eGroups.com>

I am looking for a group that deals with H/Hr ships sort of like the 
pinkhairgreeneyes does with H/T. Does anyone know one or some really 
good H/Hr fics?







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 18 00:13:38 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:13:38 -0000
Subject: Graphic Site Virus
In-Reply-To: <002101c6925a$62a1f150$65a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <e725ri+ld05@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is 
the Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Just got my Snopes.com update and that "New Graphic Site" virus is
> mentioned.
> http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/newgraphic.asp
> It gives a link for further info.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee


Tonks:
Thanks for sending that. I followed the link in it to the Norton 
site. Very informative. Thank goodness it didn't do any more harm. I 
have my HTML turned off in my e-mail so maybe that helped me.

I don't have the new version of yahoo.mail because I don't like 
change and I don't like all of the glitches that come with a beta 
version of anything.

I read all of HPFGU, etc. directly from the web. I never would have 
open those e-mails except that when I saw the addresses as from 
people that I knew where part of our group I did open them to see 
why there were all sending something. I thought that maybe my "read 
from web only" button had gotten mixed up and I was trying to see 
which group it was coming from so I could go back and fix that. Man, 
trust no one! Polyjuiced they were. What is my favorite type of 
jam??  My pet name??  The DE is everywhere. Beware!!

Tonks_op







From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sun Jun 18 00:29:23 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:29:23 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
Message-ID: <391.54f659e.31c5f863@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/16/06 8:22:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
wuff at internode.on.net writes:


> Yeah, because HP own compaq now and HP make the worst computers ever.
> 
> 

My computer IS a Hewlett Packard and it's a piece of shit.
Sandy


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 18 06:04:44 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:04:44 -0000
Subject: Looking for a group
In-Reply-To: <e727f5+s6jh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e72qds+8ukk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr at ...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "RandellG" <rlgj86@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > I am looking for a group that deals with H/Hr ships sort of 
like 
> the 
> > > pinkhairgreeneyes does with H/T. Does anyone know one or some 
> really 
> > > good H/Hr fics?
> > >
> > 
> > Tonks:
> > 
> > Don't know, don't care. We don't do the shipping stuff here.
> >
> 
> Annemehr:
> 
> Who the heck is "we?"
> 
> Plenty of shippers on this site. Perhaps one of them will be able 
to 
> answer Randell's question.
> 
Tonks:
Sorry. bad mood. Should not have said a thing. Just trying to scare 
him off... also not good. bad.. bad ... sorry... Just trying out my 
Death Eater disguise. 

slinking off..  of course I like tonks and lupin.. but .. well..  






From rlgj86 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 18 06:35:40 2006
From: rlgj86 at yahoo.com (RandellG)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:35:40 -0000
Subject: Looking for a group
In-Reply-To: <e72qds+8ukk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e72s7s+q8ot@eGroups.com>

Hehe if you think that will scare me off you have another think 
coming. I'm use to insults and laugh at most. I know that wasn't 
really one but some others might take it that way. 

As for the ships I knew they were allowed and that's why it didn't 
bother me. But my fav is Harry/Herm/Ginny/Tonks which is in my new 
fav story Harry Potter and the Paradigm Shift by Kinsfire well that 
and his story Family Matters. I also like the H/Hr/Luna that DrT 
writes all the time.

So now I ask again does anyone know a group out there for H/Hr 
ships? And/or any good H/Hr fics which can include/exclude another 
female partner.


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "annemehr" <annemehr@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "RandellG" <rlgj86@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for a group that deals with H/Hr ships sort of 
> like 
> > the 
> > > > pinkhairgreeneyes does with H/T. Does anyone know one or 
some 
> > really 
> > > > good H/Hr fics?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Tonks:
> > > 
> > > Don't know, don't care. We don't do the shipping stuff here.
> > >
> > 
> > Annemehr:
> > 
> > Who the heck is "we?"
> > 
> > Plenty of shippers on this site. Perhaps one of them will be 
able 
> to 
> > answer Randell's question.
> > 
> Tonks:
> Sorry. bad mood. Should not have said a thing. Just trying to 
scare 
> him off... also not good. bad.. bad ... sorry... Just trying out 
my 
> Death Eater disguise. 
> 
> slinking off..  of course I like tonks and lupin.. but .. well..
>








From bunniqula at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:19:48 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:19:48 -0400
Subject: Looking for a group
In-Reply-To: <e727f5+s6jh@eGroups.com>
References: <e725u7+dfid@eGroups.com> <e727f5+s6jh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606180719q700b7eaap9ac87d2f1e720849@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/17/06, annemehr <annemehr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Plenty of shippers on this site. Perhaps one of them will be able to
> answer Randell's question.

Randell did increase his odds of finding an H/Hr group that meets his
needs by posting to the HP fic search groups. :-)

Personally, I'm a slasher... Harry/Snape = the extra grease makes it
all go down 'smoother'. ;-)

Easy to slash any character, if you're inclined that way.

>From http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002955 :
[[Responding to Internet rumblings and some media musings ? including
an article in the Los Angeles Times and a recent cover of The
Advocate, titled "How Gay Is Superman" ? Bryan Singer has issued a
denial that the Man of Steel featured in his Superman Returns, coming
out June 28 (so to speak), flies the other way. "[Superman] is
probably the most heterosexual character in any movie I've ever made,"
says the director of X-Men /X2: X-Men United, eliciting a cocked
eyebrow from Wolverine. "I don't think he's ever been gay." OK,
someone has been turning a blind eye to Smallville's Clex scenes.

Hm, a TVGuide.com mod/editor knows the terminology of Clark/Lex slash
as Clex, though Clex slash was discussed on the WB issued Smallville
DVDs.  The comments responding to this entry were amusing. {g}  Still,
Singer's comment caused a chuckle as I reviewed over his past work...
Superman may be the "most heterosexual" out of that bunch because the
rest are veryverygay. {chuckle}  Poke a bit of fun at the guy.

Dina



From rlgj86 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 18 16:26:51 2006
From: rlgj86 at yahoo.com (RandellG)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:26:51 -0000
Subject: Looking for a group
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606180719q700b7eaap9ac87d2f1e720849@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e73usb+366p@eGroups.com>

I like the part with the grease that's funny but I wouldn't want to 
read it. Not in detail anyway. If its mentioned OK but I don't want 
to read an entire slash fic just like I wouldn't want to watch a gay 
porno. Not that I have a problem with gays. I have friends that are 
gay but that don't mean I want a detailed report on their love 
life....Unless their female that is but lets not go there because I 
know it will lead to some outrageous arguments.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" 
<bunniqula at ...> wrote:
>
> On 6/17/06, annemehr <annemehr at ...> wrote:
> 
> > Plenty of shippers on this site. Perhaps one of them will be 
able to
> > answer Randell's question.
> 
> Randell did increase his odds of finding an H/Hr group that meets 
his
> needs by posting to the HP fic search groups. :-)
> 
> Personally, I'm a slasher... Harry/Snape = the extra grease makes 
it
> all go down 'smoother'. ;-)
> 
> Easy to slash any character, if you're inclined that way.
> 
> From http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700002955 :
> [[Responding to Internet rumblings and some media musings ? 
including
> an article in the Los Angeles Times and a recent cover of The
> Advocate, titled "How Gay Is Superman" ? Bryan Singer has issued a
> denial that the Man of Steel featured in his Superman Returns, 
coming
> out June 28 (so to speak), flies the other way. "[Superman] is
> probably the most heterosexual character in any movie I've ever 
made,"
> says the director of X-Men /X2: X-Men United, eliciting a cocked
> eyebrow from Wolverine. "I don't think he's ever been gay." OK,
> someone has been turning a blind eye to Smallville's Clex scenes.
> 
> Hm, a TVGuide.com mod/editor knows the terminology of Clark/Lex 
slash
> as Clex, though Clex slash was discussed on the WB issued 
Smallville
> DVDs.  The comments responding to this entry were amusing. {g}  
Still,
> Singer's comment caused a chuckle as I reviewed over his past 
work...
> Superman may be the "most heterosexual" out of that bunch because 
the
> rest are veryverygay. {chuckle}  Poke a bit of fun at the guy.
> 
> Dina
>







From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jun 18 17:00:44 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:00:44 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <200606151510.AA21954674@cix.csi.cuny.edu>
Message-ID: <e740rs+gr3s@eGroups.com>

"*Colleen G.*" wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30182>:


<< Growing up as a child, my best friend would eat Nutella and fluff
sandwiches. >>

What is 'fluff'?







From kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 18 17:21:59 2006
From: kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:21:59 -0000
Subject: Sunday Chat
Message-ID: <e7423n+ig96@eGroups.com>

Hey, everyone--

I'm supposing we'll give the Chatzy room another try this week, 
yes?

Here are the directions:

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called.

Enter the password: hpfguchat

Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. (May need to click this a
couple times.)

Chat start times:
11 am Pacific US
12 noon Mountain US
1 pm Central US
2 pm Eastern US
7 pm UK
8 pm Germany, France, Spain (not certain which countries are in 
this same zone)

And, btw, I know some of our Aussie members would like to chat but
the Sunday chat times are completely inconvenient for them; if any
of y'all would like to set a new chat time, that would be great.

I'd be very glad to set an announcement to go out each week, help 
set up a poll if y'all want to decide on a day/time, etc., so if
anyone is interested, just say so.

--Kelley







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 18 17:30:41 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:30:41 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <449357C1.5000908@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e742k1+d375@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> > E-Machines is the best, I think, and they're affiliated
> > with Gateway.  ...

> Wolfie:
> 
> I don't know about the company, so can't pass comment.
> 
> A copy of windows is about the only program anyone needs
> excepting drivers for the various cards inside the unit.
> 
> Wolfie!
>

bboyminn:

A couple of members of my family have had E-Machines with no
complaints. My sister's old computer which was an E-Machine simply got
old and out dated, and she just bought a new one (E-Machine).

Although my brother had an E-Machine with no problems beyond it being
out dated. He tried to expand the memory but his mother board would
only accept 128Mb DRAM. He recently bought a Dell to replace it. My
mother also recently bought a nice Dell. 

Dell is constantly having sales, my mother's computer is a 2.4Ghz
Pentuim 4, 512Mb, CD/DVD-RW, etc... total cost with a 17" LCD monitor
was $700. My brother's is essentialy the same computer with 1Gb Ram,
Memory card reader, larger hard drive, 19" LCD monitor was about
$1,000. They have NICE basic computers currently advertised for $500. 

They are nice systems, but there is a certain amount of Dell software
that is alway running. Also, the Dell comes loaded with Trial software
that just eats up hard drive space. It can all be uninstalled though.
If it was my computer I would get rid of all that stuff. But my mother
and Brother aren't exactly sophisticated users, so I just let it go.

Just passing it along.
Stevebboyminn






From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jun 18 17:40:14 2006
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:40:14 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e6tfj9+968a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7435u+pmup@eGroups.com>

"Tonks" wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30194>:

<< I would have nothing but Dell. Their service is very good. Be sure
to get the extended service. >>

My previous computer was a Dell laptop with the 'extended warranty'
(service contract). Its big problem was from time to time it became
unable to drink electric power from the cord/charger that plugs into
the wall socket, so that it could neither run on AC power NOR recharge
its batteries. The reason was that the receptacle for the plug is
attached to the motherboard and it came loose (or went bad or
something) and the solution was for Dell to send a tech to my house to
swap out the motherboard. Two times the monitor went bad and they sent
a tech to swap out the monitor. One time the keyboard went bad and two
times the touchpad went bad and they sent the tech to swap out the bad
stuff. And somethings went bad and they sent me replacements in the
mail. And never charged me money for all this time and materials.

So I was very happy with Dell service, and determined to keep with
Dell for that reason.

But then Tim forgot to renew the 'warranty' so when the touch pad went
bad AGAIN I just plugged in an external mouse and made do. But then
the stupid electric receptacle went bad again and I don't know any way
to work around that problem.

So I bought a new Dell laptop with 'extended warranty' for three years.

So I'd had it about one month when suddenly it flickered and went dark
and wouldn't start when I pushed the button.

So Tim spent DAYS on-line (on his computer, which he bought from
Costco on a whim while shopping for mass quantities of frozen chicken)
with the nice Dell tech support people in India who walked him through
bringing it up in Safe Mode, wiping out everything, re-installing the
entire operating system, re-installing my stuff from sort-of-backup
... I seem to recall that receiving (from the mail) a new chargerbox
with a cord on one end to plug into the wall and a cord on the other
end to plug into the computer was part of this solution ...

And about a month after that, around Thanksgiving (late November), it
had the electricity receptacle problem and we phoned Dell to send
someone to swap out the motherboard.

And first the Dell tech made an appointment and didn't come and
claimed that the reason was that he had phoned us and we hadn't
answered, which was a lie. So we called again and again and eventually
found out that the Dell sub-contractor in our area had written in
their log that our home is an unsafe working environment and therefore
they wouldn't send anyone to our home. And Dell said our contract is
with their sub-contractor and we have to sort out any problems with
the sub-contractor ourselves.

And eventually, early February, I got my new motherboard by arranging
that the service call would be to Lee's house instead of my house. Tim
and Lee and the computer were there well before the appointed time.
Well after the appointed time, they phoned the service people, who
said their person had driven by but been unable to park and come in
because the sprinklers were on. So Lee persuaded them that the
sprinklers were off now so please send the person again.

And a couple of days later, they mailed me an official-looking
announcement that my 'warranty' had been voided for not taking proper
care of the computer.

If I weren't such a neurotic, phobic wimp, I would have sued in Small
Claims Court to get back 5/6 of the money I'd paid for 'extended
warranty' (paid for three years and got six months, such as it was).
Instead, I complain to friendly ears and eyes, such as this list.






From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Sun Jun 18 20:40:03 2006
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:40:03 -0000
Subject: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
In-Reply-To: <e740rs+gr3s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e74dn3+ncd0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
> "*Colleen G.*" wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30182>:
> 
> 
> << Growing up as a child, my best friend would eat Nutella and fluff
> sandwiches. >>
> 
> What is 'fluff'?
>
Luckdragon:
"Fluff" is a whipped marshmallow spread sold in a jar like peanut 
butter.







From Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu  Mon Jun 19 14:01:45 2006
From: Colleen.Gredder at cix.csi.cuny.edu (*Colleen G.*)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:01:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: As long as we are talking about food - Nutella
Message-ID: <200606191001.AA40960266@cix.csi.cuny.edu>


Marshmellow Fluff....it is marshmellow in a jar...I can't stand the stuff!

      ?.?*?) 
 *?.?? (?.? Colleen

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not. - Kurt Cobain

It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. - Harry Potter and The Sorcerers Stone





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From: "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at wicca.net>
Reply-To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Date:  Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:00:44 -0000

>"*Colleen G.*" wrote in
><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30182>:
>
>
><< Growing up as a child, my best friend would eat Nutella and fluff
>sandwiches. >>
>
>What is 'fluff'?
>
>
>
>
>
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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Tue Jun 20 22:15:03 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:15:03 EDT
Subject: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
Message-ID: <2a7.6058ea6.31c9cd67@aol.com>

It looks like my long planned but never realized wake for Albus Dumbledore  
will finally happen next month. 
 
My original plans simply called for playing the soundtracks to the movies  
but now I'd like to assemble something a little more Dumbledore specific. While  
I will include selections from the movies, what music would you play for 
Albus  Dumbledore? 
 
Thanks!
 
~~~Mary
Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy  merely to be 
normal. ~Albert Camus




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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jun 20 23:12:47 2006
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:12:47 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Music for Dumbledore's Wake
In-Reply-To: <2a7.6058ea6.31c9cd67@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c694bf$0bc78f90$65a4a8c0@rosie>

Don't laugh, but since it was stated that Dd enjoyed chamber music, seek in
the classical realms.  "In Paradisium" by Faure has the most lovely
accompaniment with lots of arpeggios that make one think of flying...like
with a phoenix.

Of course, Bach has some somber pieces worth exploring.  And, if one wanted
to get interesting, consult the soundtrack for, of all things, "Space,
1999."  There's a piece called "The testament of Arkadia" which starts out
very classically styled and lovely, a bit poignant and somber, and ends with
a sort of rock styled, but not badly done or tasteless, rather joyful
ending, which one could interpret as his spirit flying free in phoenix form.

That's a couple suggestions from the music library of "The Storm Center."
<Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 21 16:28:06 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:28:06 -0000
Subject: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
In-Reply-To: <2a7.6058ea6.31c9cd67@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e7bs2m+k570@eGroups.com>

Mary wrote:
>
> It looks like my long planned but never realized wake for Albus 
Dumbledore  
> will finally happen next month. 
>  
> My original plans simply called for playing the soundtracks to the 
movies  
> but now I'd like to assemble something a little more Dumbledore 
specific. While  
> I will include selections from the movies, what music would you 
play for 
> Albus  Dumbledore? 
>
Kemper now:
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov wrote the opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan at 
the turn of the last century.  I had to look it up....

At the end of ActIII and the magic Swan-Bird gives the little Tsar 
prince instructions on how to chancge into an insect so that he can 
fly away to visit his father, the Tsar, who does not know that the 
prince is alive.  The musical piece in this opera is one of the most 
recognized pieces of music even today: Flight of the Bumblebee.

As the bumblebee flies around the Swan-Bird, the Swan-Bird sings:

Well, now, my bumblebee, go on a spree,
catch up with the ship on the sea,
go down secretly,
get into a crack a little distance away.
Good luck, Gvidon, fly,
only do not stay long!

Anyone else see the phoenix in the Swan-Bird? 

So, I hope your wake goes well, but I believe the wake isn't 
necessary yet.  Dumbledore lives!

-Kemper, some say that he's a dreamer, but he's not the only one






From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 21 16:17:46 2006
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:17:46 -0000
Subject: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
In-Reply-To: <2a7.6058ea6.31c9cd67@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e7brfa+vt17@eGroups.com>

Mary wrote:
>
> It looks like my long planned but never realized wake for Albus 
Dumbledore  
> will finally happen next month. 
>  
> My original plans simply called for playing the soundtracks to the 
movies  
> but now I'd like to assemble something a little more Dumbledore 
specific. While  
> I will include selections from the movies, what music would you 
play for 
> Albus  Dumbledore? 
>
Kemper now:
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov wrote the opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan at 
the turn of the last century.  I had to look it up....

At the end of ActIII and the magic Swan-Bird gives the little Tsar 
prince instructions on how to chancge into an insect so that he can 
fly away to visit his father, the Tsar, who does not know that the 
prince is alive.  The musical piece in this opera is one of the most 
recognized pieces of music even today: Flight of the Bumblebee.

As the bumblebee flies around the Swan-Bird, the Swan-Bird sings:

Well, now, my bumblebee, go on a spree,
catch up with the ship on the sea,
go down secretly,
get into a crack a little distance away.
Good luck, Gvidon, fly,
only do not stay long!

Anyone else see the phoenix in the Swan-Bird? 

So, I hope your wake goes well, but I believe the wake isn't 
necessary yet.  Dumbledore lives!

-Kemper, some say that he's a dreamer, but he's not the only one







From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Thu Jun 22 02:17:09 2006
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:17:09 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
Message-ID: <4ee.1344506.31cb57a5@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/21/06 1:00:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kempermentor at yahoo.com writes:


> The musical piece in this opera is one of the most 
> recognized pieces of music even today: Flight of the Bumblebee.
> 
> 

Flight of the Bumblebee would be perfect because Dumbledore means bumblebee. 
I am pretty new to the list and would love to hear the details about your 
Wake. This is something you have been planning for a while? Please tell me about 
it. 

Sandy, who does believe Dumbledore is dead.


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From wuff at internode.on.net  Thu Jun 22 23:20:30 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:20:30 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
In-Reply-To: <4ee.1344506.31cb57a5@aol.com>
References: <4ee.1344506.31cb57a5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <449B25BE.8010005@internode.on.net>


"It's my party and I'll cry if I want to"

Wolfie!



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Thu Jun 22 07:27:23 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:27:23 +1000
Subject: New camera
In-Reply-To: <449B25BE.8010005@internode.on.net>
References: <4ee.1344506.31cb57a5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <449AD2FB.28712.14381D7@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

I've been playing with a new digital camera I have. It's been years since I've taken 
photographs seriously and I need more practice, but decided to share what I'd taken anyway 
- perhaps some people might find the two collections of interest for some reason.

http://drednort.livejournal.com/57958.html

http://drednort.livejournal.com/58367.html

Apologies to those using screenreaders - but they are photos, and I can't do much about that. 
There is some descriptive text, but I don't think people would get much out of that. I'm not 
sure people would get much out of the photos for that matter!

 
Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jun 22 18:02:06 2006
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:02:06 EDT
Subject: Music for Dumbledore's Wake
Message-ID: <51a.12724e6.31cc351e@aol.com>

 
Lee said:
Don't laugh, but since it was stated that Dd enjoyed  chamber music, seek in
the classical realms. "In Paradisium" by Faure has the  most lovely
accompaniment with lots of arpeggios that make one think of  flying...like
with a phoenix.

Of course, Bach has some somber pieces  worth exploring. And, if one wanted
to get interesting, consult the  soundtrack for, of all things, "Space,
1999." There's a piece called "The  testament of Arkadia" which starts out
very classically styled and lovely, a  bit poignant and somber, and ends with
a sort of rock styled, but not badly  done or tasteless, rather joyful
ending, which one could interpret as his  spirit flying free in phoenix form.

Then Kemper said:
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov wrote the opera The Tale of Tsar  Saltan at 
the turn of the last century. I had to look it up....

At  the end of ActIII and the magic Swan-Bird gives the little Tsar 
prince  instructions on how to chancge into an insect so that he can 
fly away to  visit his father, the Tsar, who does not know that the 
prince is alive. The  musical piece in this opera is one of the most 
recognized pieces of music  even today: Flight of the Bumblebee.

As the bumblebee flies around the  Swan-Bird, the Swan-Bird sings:

Well, now, my bumblebee, go on a  spree,
catch up with the ship on the sea,
go down secretly,
get into a  crack a little distance away.
Good luck, Gvidon, fly,
only do not stay  long!

Anyone else see the phoenix in the Swan-Bird? 

So, I hope  your wake goes well, but I believe the wake isn't 
necessary yet. Dumbledore  lives!


And now I say:
 
Thank you for the suggestions! They are just the sort of  thing I was looking 
for. While I believe the Dumbledore lives, we must keep the  pretense up. 
Since I do have friends who believe he is dead, I really see  the need for a 
wake. 
 
I wanted to do this last fall, then after the new year.  Now it looks like it 
will happen. 

 
~~~Mary
Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy  merely to be 
normal. ~Albert Camus




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 23 00:41:25 2006
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:41:25 -0000
Subject: Found! Grimmauld Square, London
Message-ID: <e7fdbl+ldec@eGroups.com>

I have found what I think is the location of Grimmauld Square which is
the place where Number 12 Grimmauld Place can be found, or actually
not found. 

I was browsing my London Street Map for anything within a 1 mile
radius of King's Cross Station that looked like it could be Grimmauld
Place, and this is what I found.

In the PHOTOS folder of this group you will find a new Album titled
"Grimmauld Square, London". In it you will find two photos of the
place that I think fits the bill.

Northeast of Kings Cross Station, in the area of Islington and
Barnsbury, is a small square set off from the main road. Familiar
nearby landmarks are -

-Barnard Park in Islington, - shown as a brown square near the bottom
and just above the word 'Islington'

-Thornhill Square - Oval shaped square slightly northwest of Barnard Park.

-Richmond Crest - inverted half-circle just north across the street
from Barnard Park.

-Grimmauld Square - West of Liverpool Road, and slightly north and
east of Barnard Park.

Slightly northeast of the park is an area marked on my Collins Map of
London is a small square marked "Lons. Sq.".

The street bounding the Square to the north is Barnbury St and to the
south of the Square is Richmond Ave. As I said before, the major road
on the right (east) is Liverpool Rd and the street to the left (west)
is Thornhill Rd.

This is the only place that comes close to matching the description.
It is nearly a full mile from Kings Cross (20 minute walk). Just north
of the Square a few blocks, where Liverpool Road intersects with
Highbury Station Road ,is a Underground Station; presumably Highbury
Station, so the subway is close by.

I'm curious if anyone is familiar with this area of London, and can
they tell us if indeed this area could pass for Grimmauld Place??? 

The Square seems to be surrounded by matching row house (townhomes,
brownstones, Greystone). Each town home seems to have some reasonable
back yard (garden). So, presumably these are relatively posh houses,
unless the neighborhood has gone into decay and the Full town homes
have been converted to smaller flats. Seems like it might actually be
too posh to match Harry's description, but it's as close as I can get
in the real world. 

I suspect if we see it at all in the movie, it will all be in the
studio. Still it's fun to speculate.

The images were taken courtesy of Google Earth, which is an amazing
program. It is possible to see people walking on the streets of
London. Although, the streets of Minneapolis are not quite that clear.

Google Earth is a free download for those who are interested.

To see a full Collins Street Map of this area with a 1 mile radius
drawn on it, see-

http://www.homestead.com/BlueMoonMarket/Files/Hogwarts/12grim.jpg

Caution, this map file is about 650Kb, so best view with DSL.

Look on the Top Right, just inside the radius circle for Islington.

Steve/bboyminn

PS: Yes, I know it's not actually a real place, but I can imagine can't I?







From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 23 01:48:57 2006
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:48:57 -0000
Subject: New camera
In-Reply-To: <449AD2FB.28712.14381D7@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
Message-ID: <e7fha9+kqk0@eGroups.com>

Shaun wrote:

> I've been playing with a new digital camera I have. It's been 
> years since I've taken photographs seriously and I need more 
> practice, but decided to share what I'd taken anyway 
> - perhaps some people might find the two collections of interest 
> for some reason.
> 
> http://drednort.livejournal.com/57958.html
> 
> http://drednort.livejournal.com/58367.html

KathyK:

Shaun, they're very nice photographs.  That was great you happened 
to have your camera when you finally found your pink heath flower.  
Heh, I love when things like that happen.

Your photos make me want to visit Australia again, and also wander 
my hometown to make my own photograph collection of places 
significant to me.  I already have an incredibly large pile of 
photos documenting my last three moves (because I am crazy) and 
various cars I've owned, but it would be great to capture more.

Out of curiosity, is that how these places looked when you were 
there?  In my case, the three schools I attended all had additions 
added after I left.  Actually, this happened with my university as 
well.  I still find it difficult to accept the way my old high 
school now appears.  It just feels so wrong to me.  Taking photos of 
it now would feel like I was lying to myself in some way.  I'll have 
to comb through old pictures to see if I have any school photographs 
already, but I suspect not.  

Thanks for sharing!

KathyK







From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Fri Jun 23 01:55:04 2006
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:55:04 -0000
Subject: Terminating Witches
Message-ID: <e7fhlo+g52g@eGroups.com>

It seems that every time we get a report that a Christian 
fundamentalist wants to have the Harry Potter books taken out of the 
Podunk school library, the Potterverse resounds in a great anthem of 
outrage in defense of free speech, human rights, liberty, equality and 
fraternity.

The truth is, however, that the Fundies are utter wimps. Here you can 
read about the folks who are truly striking at the "root causes".

http://tinyurl.com/mtsyy

  - CMC







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jun 23 02:37:39 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:37:39 -0400
Subject: New camera
In-Reply-To: <e7fha9+kqk0@eGroups.com>
References: <449AD2FB.28712.14381D7@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
	 <e7fha9+kqk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606221937l1930ddbanc1b487e652f67f3d@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/22/06, KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Your photos make me want to visit Australia again, and also wander
> my hometown to make my own photograph collection of places
> significant to me.  I already have an incredibly large pile of
> photos documenting my last three moves (because I am crazy) and
> various cars I've owned, but it would be great to capture more.
>
> Out of curiosity, is that how these places looked when you were
> there?  In my case, the three schools I attended all had additions
> added after I left.  Actually, this happened with my university as
> well.  I still find it difficult to accept the way my old high
> school now appears.  It just feels so wrong to me.  Taking photos of
> it now would feel like I was lying to myself in some way.  I'll have
> to comb through old pictures to see if I have any school photographs
> already, but I suspect not.
>
> Thanks for sharing!

Agreed, thanks for sharing!

I know all my schools have changed... Amusingly, for *Florida* and
*schools*, they've added more *glass* expansion structures.  Those
three aspects usually don't 'happily' co-exist for long. ;-)  Storm
and teen-proof are questionable.  Though, they sure look
architecturally 'purty' now and much bigger versus the practical
cement blocks when I attended.

Dunno about the rest of y'all but what I find 'wrong' about one change
in my high school are the rolling chainlink fences and locks securing
what used to be an 'open' campus.  I remember being able to stroll the
campus and get to my locker at all hours of the night, if needed.
Vandalism and other crimes probably forced the 'lockdown'.

The youthful illusion of 'safety' at school (evacuation zones use
school buildings) is... shattered, adding to the irony of placing
students in a 'glass house'. {g}

Dina



From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jun 23 04:04:21 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:04:21 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New camera
In-Reply-To: <e7fha9+kqk0@eGroups.com>
References: <449AD2FB.28712.14381D7@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
Message-ID: <449BF4E5.23188.B0AA87@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

On 23 Jun 2006 at 1:48, KathyK wrote:

> KathyK:
> 
> Shaun, they're very nice photographs.  That was great you happened 
> to have your camera when you finally found your pink heath flower.  
> Heh, I love when things like that happen.

Yes, I thought that was really cool. Although I have just found out that the white heath is the 
same plant as the pink heath - it's just white flowers are much more common than pink. Even 
more rarely you can get deep red flowers.

> Out of curiosity, is that how these places looked when you were 
> there?  In my case, the three schools I attended all had additions 
> added after I left.  Actually, this happened with my university as 
> well.  I still find it difficult to accept the way my old high 
> school now appears.  It just feels so wrong to me.  Taking photos of 
> it now would feel like I was lying to myself in some way.  I'll have 
> to comb through old pictures to see if I have any school photographs 
> already, but I suspect not. 

They are close, but not identical to the way they looked then.

The pre-school is virtually unchanged from the angle I took the photo, but going round the 
back of it - which I didn't photograph from I could see into the playground, and not 
surprisingly the play equipment was a bit different from 1979 - I suspect what we had back 
then would be considered too dangerous now.

The same applies to the primary school - different play equipment, but they have also very 
recently (at the start of this year) put new roofs on some of the buildings and I can see that in 
the first photo - in the school building closest to us, you can see a kind of high central roof 
section with windows in it - that's new. 

The second photo showing the front of the school is basically the same as I remember, 
though I assume the trees have changed a bit.

As for the two houses, there's been some changes. Most noticeably - perhaps surprisingly for 
most people - the most obvious change is the letter boxes. When we lived in these houses, 
they were part of a Royal Australian Navy housing estate and every house had an identical 
brown rectangular letter box. Us little kids (I was ten when we moved away from this) used to 
be told that we had to stay in the naval area and we were taught that those letterboxes 
marked the area we had to stay within. The estate was transferred to the Housing 
Commission some years ago, and is now a mixture of public housing and houses sold to 
private owners, and while quite a few houses in there still have the old letter boxes, most 
don't - and neither of my old houses does.

Besides that... the house we lived in the late 1970s has had a nice front verandah added (I 
suspect it's a privately owned house because nobody would bother doing that to a 
commission house), and the posion berry bush that I got my bottom smacked for eating to 
prove to my mother wasn't poisonous is gone. Not that I'd really expect it to be there after 
twenty six years, but I remember that bush.

The house we lived in the early 1980s has had a concrete ramp and hand rails installed to 
the front door - it looks like it's been made wheelchair accessible to me.

I know how you feel about places changing - I have the same issue and I'm lucky these 
places are still recognisable. My old Scout Hall - located right near the preschool - is now just 
a concrete slab in the ground, and I wish I had a photo of that before it went - the council 
decided scouts weren't coming back to the area, and they owned the hall so they demolished 
it - about three weeks later somebody moved to restart a troop. The council generously gave 
them an old pre-school to use as a Scout Hall and while I think it's probably a much nicer 
building inside, I get very amused as it still has its pre-school era paintjob - and I really 
wonder what the scouts feel about meeting in a building that has teddy bears painted on its 
walls!

My later schooling was in a (by Australian standards) very old school that is very intent on 
preserving its historical appearance, so I don't think to worry about that changing. But I did go 
past it's prep school recently (where I spent a year - the happiest year of my childhood) and 
was somewhat disappointed to see it had changed a lot - only somewhat, because I love that 
place so much that I'm very glad to see the kids getting better facilities - but still, nostalgia 
does apply. One thing I couldn't see if they'd changed that I hope they have - our change 
rooms where we used to have to change for sport at that school had a glass front wall - so 
anyone walking past could see us changing. Now that the school has a co-ed section, I hope 
they've fixed that - at 13, I found it rather embarassing when a female teacher walked past, I 
can tell you!

But in terms of changes... this morning I went and took some more local photos at another 
school I attended for one year back in 1987. This was, for me, a hellish and horrible place - it 
almost killed me - and it's only fairly recently I've been able to walk past it without feeling 
physically ill. I took some photos there today, and it hasn't changed much at all - and I wish it 
had because I was delighted to find out that the scene of my greatest misery - the toilets 
where I was beaten unconscious and left on the floor - had been completely demolished, and 
I was so glad to see that place gone.

Photos of that school - with some commentary on some of what happened there - should go 
up sometime today.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Fri Jun 23 09:04:57 2006
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:04:57 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: New camera
In-Reply-To: <449BF4E5.23188.B0AA87@drednort.alphalink.com.au>
References: <e7fha9+kqk0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <449C3B59.14454.1C3EC9C@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

On 23 Jun 2006 at 14:04, Shaun Hately wrote:

> But in terms of changes... this morning I went and took some more local photos at another 
> school I attended for one year back in 1987. This was, for me, a hellish and horrible place - it 
> almost killed me - and it's only fairly recently I've been able to walk past it without feeling 
> physically ill. I took some photos there today, and it hasn't changed much at all - and I wish it 
> had because I was delighted to find out that the scene of my greatest misery - the toilets 
> where I was beaten unconscious and left on the floor - had been completely demolished, and 
> I was so glad to see that place gone.
> 
> Photos of that school - with some commentary on some of what happened there - should go 
> up sometime today.

http://drednort.livejournal.com/58453.html

if anyone wants to see. These images a bit more personal in content that the previous ones.

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html
(ISTJ)       | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one
thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that 
need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil
Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 23 15:05:27 2006
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:05:27 -0000
Subject: Terminating Witches
In-Reply-To: <e7fhlo+g52g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7gvvn+tpgu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" <coriolan at ...> 
wrote:
 
> The truth is, however, that the Fundies are utter wimps.


Or, just relatively impotent these days because they're not allowed to 
run the government.

I don't wear T-shirts so much anymore, but I couldn't resist picking 
one up in Salem last October -- it has a silk-screened drawing of a 
cherub-topped headstone carrying twenty-four names of victims of the 
Salem witch-trials.

I say the fundies don't get a pass just because there are worse in the 
world.

Anne








From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jun 24 08:18:32 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:18:32 -0700
Subject: how to draw harry potter animals
Message-ID: <449CF558.1070009@internode.on.net>

This page popped up, and I know most people I know either
draw or like Harry Potter... or both.

This page gives you some tips.
not really very comprehensive, but... might help a bit.
http://www.drawfluffy.com/

Wolfie!



From thekrenz at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 02:04:46 2006
From: thekrenz at yahoo.com (thekrenz)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:04:46 -0000
Subject: DVD Scene It
Message-ID: <e7i6ju+7r9r@eGroups.com>

My family and I just finished playing the HP dvd Scene It game for the 
first time.  My wonderful husband bought it for me as a gift.  We had 
such a great time!  I was actually surprised that some of the 
questions were quite difficult.  There are question cards with 
categories, one of which is "Muggle".  These questions are about such 
things as what movie did Dame Maggie Smith win an oscar for and things 
like that.  I am definately the biggest fan in my family, but the rest 
of them (husband and 2 girls) are fans as well.  My oldest daughter 
won the first round, and I won the second.  I would recommend this 
lovely game to any of you who like to play games.  What a fabulous way 
to spend a Friday night with the family!
Cyndi






From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 05:12:31 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:12:31 -0000
Subject: Terminating Witches
In-Reply-To: <e7fhlo+g52g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7ihjv+mju5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" <coriolan at ...> 
wrote:
>
> It seems that every time we get a report that a Christian 
> fundamentalist wants to have the Harry Potter books taken out of the 
> Podunk school library, the Potterverse resounds in a great anthem of 
> outrage in defense of free speech, human rights, liberty, equality 
and fraternity.
> 
> The truth is, however, that the Fundies are utter wimps. Here you can 
> read about the folks who are truly striking at the "root causes".
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/mtsyy
> 
>

Tonks:
Scary, isn't it. I take it that HP is banned there too. 

Anne said:
> don't wear T-shirts so much anymore, but I couldn't resist picking
> one up in Salem last October -- it has a silk-screened drawing of a
cherub-topped headstone carrying twenty-four names of victims of the
> Salem witch-trials.

Tonks:
Oh, I like that. I didn't see that one. I just got one with a witch 
flying over Salem and one with a cat face and the name "Salem".  I wish 
I had see the one that you got. That would be cool.

Tonks_op







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 05:15:57 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:15:57 -0000
Subject: DVD Scene It
In-Reply-To: <e7i6ju+7r9r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7ihqd+ivbb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "thekrenz" <thekrenz at ...> wrote:
>
> My family and I just finished playing the HP dvd Scene It game for 
the  first time.  My wonderful husband bought it for me as a gift.  We 
had such a great time!  I was actually surprised that some of the 
> questions were quite difficult.  There are question cards with 
> categories, one of which is "Muggle".  These questions are about such 
things as what movie did Dame Maggie Smith win an oscar for and things 
like that.  I am definately the biggest fan in my family, but the rest 
of them (husband and 2 girls) are fans as well.  My oldest daughter won 
the first round, and I won the second.  I would recommend this lovely 
game to any of you who like to play games.  What a fabulous way  to 
spend a Friday night with the family!
>

Tonks:
I thought that it was a computer game. It isn't?? Is it a triva game 
from the movie? Played in real life.. not with a computer??

Tonks_op 







From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jun 25 03:30:40 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:30:40 -0700
Subject: HP experiment
Message-ID: <449E0360.7030305@internode.on.net>

http://www.illegal-art.org/video/wizard.html

Give this one a shot.

Wolfie!



From thekrenz at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 13:51:34 2006
From: thekrenz at yahoo.com (thekrenz)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:51:34 -0000
Subject: DVD Scene It
In-Reply-To: <e7ihqd+ivbb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7jg16+apub@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "thekrenz" <thekrenz@> 
wrote:
> >
> > My family and I just finished playing the HP dvd Scene It game 
for 
> the  first time.  My wonderful husband bought it for me as a 
gift.  We 
> had such a great time!  I was actually surprised that some of the 
> > questions were quite difficult.  There are question cards with 
> > categories, one of which is "Muggle".  These questions are about 
such 
> things as what movie did Dame Maggie Smith win an oscar for and 
things 
> like that.  I am definately the biggest fan in my family, but the 
rest 
> of them (husband and 2 girls) are fans as well.  My oldest 
daughter won 
> the first round, and I won the second.  I would recommend this 
lovely 
> game to any of you who like to play games.  What a fabulous way  
to 
> spend a Friday night with the family!
> >
> 
> Tonks:
> I thought that it was a computer game. It isn't?? Is it a triva 
game 
> from the movie? Played in real life.. not with a computer??
> 
> Tonks_op

You play it on what ever device you normally play dvds on.  The game 
comes with a board to place pieces on, 4 pieces you move arouond the 
board like a reqular board game, house points cards you draw and 
follow the directions.  The dvd is operated by your dvd remote, or 
you can play dvds in a playstation 2 console.  I don't know about 
the other game consoles, but I'm sure they are the same.  No 
computer required!
Cyndi







From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 17:04:03 2006
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:04:03 -0000
Subject: DVD Scene It
In-Reply-To: <e7jg16+apub@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7jra3+7mqm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "thekrenz" <thekrenz at ...> wrote:
>
> You play it on what ever device you normally play dvds on.  The game 
> comes with a board to place pieces on, 4 pieces you move arouond the 
> board like a reqular board game, house points cards you draw and 
> follow the directions.  The dvd is operated by your dvd remote

Tonks:
duh!!  DVD. As in the title of this post! How *did* I miss that. (hits 
head with palm of hand). Oh, some days you wonder why you even get out 
of bed.

I would like a HP triva game that didn't require electronic equipment. 
I lump computers and DVD and all those other strange new things 
together. I like basis stuff. You know over here in the WW we don't 
have these strange Muggle invention.

Tonks_op






From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 24 18:00:25 2006
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:00:25 -0000
Subject: DVD Scene It
In-Reply-To: <e7jra3+7mqm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7jujp+64e1@eGroups.com>

Tonks:

> I would like a HP triva game that didn't require electronic 
equipment. 
> I lump computers and DVD and all those other strange new things 
> together. I like basis stuff. You know over here in the WW we 
don't 
> have these strange Muggle invention.
> 
> Tonks_op
>

Annemehr:

I have the Trivial Pursuit-type board game, based on the PS/SS 
movie, which we've enjoyed very much in the past.  At one time I 
heard you could get CoS cards for it too, but I never saw any, nor 
for any of the subsequent movies either.  Too bad; it was really one 
of the best of all the movie merchandise they came out with.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004VXM0/102-3461929-
4334510?v=glance

~Anne









From jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  Sun Jun 25 13:25:43 2006
From: jamiesonwolf at gmail.com (Jamieson Villeneuve)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:25:43 -0400
Subject: Wolf's Picks for July!
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630606250625t60f2923bib27b6a9d73c79d70@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Everyone,

Last month, I announced the opening of WOLF'S PICKS: Books With Bite! It's
an online book club where anyone is welcome to join.

We pick one book a month and than discuss the book, what we thought about
it, what the characters are like, etc. The world of words can inspire many
conversations! Our very first Wolf's Pick was The Devil Wears Prada, which
was met with mixed results.

WOLF'S PICKS--Books With Bite will discuss anything and everything. Fantasy
to memoirs, fiction to children's books. Romances to thrillers; all sorts of
books from a variety of authors. For variety is the spice of life.

So, are you ready? Pick up a good book, grab a cuppa tea (or coffee if
that's your thing) and pull up a chair. I've got some muffins in the oven
and they'll be ready in a minute or two.

Come and see us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfspicks/ We're in the
process of voting on the second book for Wolf's Picks!


Cheers,

Jamieson


-- 
Jamieson Wolf: Author of GARDEN CITY and HOPE FALLS :
http://crowswolf.tripod.com/jamiesonwolfvilleneuve/


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jun 26 06:59:42 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:59:42 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wolf's Picks for July!
In-Reply-To: <5cb2ac630606250625t60f2923bib27b6a9d73c79d70@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5cb2ac630606250625t60f2923bib27b6a9d73c79d70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <449F85DE.6010808@internode.on.net>


> Come and see us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfspicks/ We're in the
> process of voting on the second book for Wolf's Picks!

Wolves are good at picking things, noses mostly...
I pick stuff too.

Wolfie!



From kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 25 17:14:15 2006
From: kelley_thompson at sbcglobal.net (Kelley)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:14:15 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat
Message-ID: <e7mg97+6fec@eGroups.com>

Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour.

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want
to be called.

Enter the password: hpfguchat

Click "Join Chat" on the lower right.

Chat start times:
11 am Pacific US
12 noon Mountain US
1 pm Central US
2 pm Eastern US
7 pm UK






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 25 22:44:37 2006
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:44:37 -0000
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <449357C1.5000908@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
> > E-Machines is the best, I think, and they're affiliated with
Gateway.  They
> > have the least amount of "junk" software included with their
bundling and
> > are usually very reliable.  Art recently got a Gateway laptop and it's
> > lovely!
> 
> I don't know about the company, so can't pass comment.
> 
> A copy of windows is about the only program anyone needs
> excepting drivers for the various cards inside the unit.
> 
> Wolfie!
>

Carol:
Since I started this thread, I guess I should make clear what I use it
for. I edit for a living and also spend a lot of time on the Internet.
I can't stand laptops. (Can't explain it; I'm just uncomfortable with
the look and feel of the things.) I need a nice flat-screen monitor,
Windows XP, a CD/DVD-RW drive (or CD-RW and DVD-ROM if there's a
significant price difference, which I rather doubt), anti-virus
protection, a fast processor and lots of memory for photos, computer
games (not mine!), writing and editing projects, etc. I'm not sure
what else except a standard keyboard and mouse, which of course come
with the computer.

I can't build a computer from scratch myself, but I'm wondering if
it's a good idea to have a local merchant do it. He seems reputable
and knowledgeable, but I'm afraid that he might be edged out of
business by the chain stores or whatever you call them (Dell, etc.).
that happened to me once before and my warranty was worthless because
the company no longer existed.

Carol, halfway through the thread now and thanking everybody who's
contributed so far







From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jun 26 00:44:04 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:44:04 -0400
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>
References: <449357C1.5000908@internode.on.net> <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606251744i5d8f991agdde2559cac85b071@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/06, justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I can't build a computer from scratch myself, but I'm wondering if

A time-consuming project but not difficult.  Website I used when
piecing together a computer for the first time:
http://www.mysuperpc.com/

I had no idea what I was doing, so I appreciated pictures with the
instructions. :-)


> it's a good idea to have a local merchant do it. He seems reputable
> and knowledgeable, but I'm afraid that he might be edged out of
> business by the chain stores or whatever you call them (Dell, etc.).
> that happened to me once before and my warranty was worthless because
> the company no longer existed.

Get a Dell (dealnews.com, slickdeals.net, and fatwallet.com are good
spots for coupons and cheap tips).  They're taking over the world,
might as well go with the flow. ;-)

Get a Dell via Costco.  From
http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2006/02/27_a369.html :
[[
Reader comments in a recent discussion, however, singled out one
retailer as having far better return policies and practices that the
rest: Costco. "I buy all my electronics at Costco," wrote one reader.
"Everything except computers you can return at any time, period, no
questions asked, while computers are limited to six months.
Occasionally I'll get something that's a lemon or just doesn't perform
well, and back it goes. I then turn around and give them lots more
business."
]]

My bad, I knew electronics have a "lifetime policy", but computers
have a shorter 'no questions asked' policy.  I believe, once the six
months are over, the computer goes under the manufacturer's remaining
warranty.  However, computer *monitors* may not fall under the
six-month policy; they may fall under the *lifetime* policy.  Monitor
upgrade, w00t!

Go with what you feel comfortable and what you need such as you voiced
concerns on warranty.

Five computer towers, two CRT monitors, one LCD monitor, and a
partridge in a pear... whoops, laptop (bought off eBay used - may have
been new... *ten years ago*)... Personally, other than that crapass
Compaq, I've not needed a computer warranty... yet. {knock on wood the
newly built computer holds}  Research on the model and parts going
into that model.

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jun 26 18:04:44 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:04:44 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>


> I can't build a computer from scratch myself, but I'm wondering if
> it's a good idea to have a local merchant do it. He seems reputable
> and knowledgeable, but I'm afraid that he might be edged out of
> business by the chain stores or whatever you call them (Dell, etc.).
> that happened to me once before and my warranty was worthless because
> the company no longer existed.

I feel, and so does my cousin that we must support the little guy
or otherwise we'll pay for our laziness when the big guys take
over and can charge whatever they like.

If you know someone else who has been to the shop and feels happy
with the service, then it might be worth the effort.

We had someone like that locally who would do a really good job,
give advice on all the good innards of the thing, order the parts
and build it and install the software.

I do like this sort of option.

You can research the parts online, discuss them with friends who
know more about the parts than you do yourself... and learn a
bit more about them from your friends [I did this and it helped
my understanding of computers a great deal]. then tell the guy
at the shop what you want in a machine and he can tell you if
all the parts are compatible [it's mostly the cpu, RAM,
motherboard, powersupply and case which you *must* get right...
the other stuff, soundcard, videocard etc should be fine in
any new machine. yes I would give it a go.

If a part should go bad, then you will find that you should
have some guarantee on the part on it's own, so you're still
covered.

What I'd be wary of is going to a sunday swap meet, if they have
those near you, and buying older parts which are sold open and
unpackaged. that's a really really bad idea...

I saw a friend do that, he bought a pentium, took it home...
didn't work, no guarantee or anything on it, lost about $200
so it didn't turn out to be as cheap as he thought.

I do buy parts from markets, but they need to be packaged and
brand spanking new, just be cautious.

If you buy from a market then sometimes the guy in the shop
will still assemble the thing for you, you're still paying
for a service after all.

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jun 26 02:08:02 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:08:02 -0400
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/26/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:

> If you know someone else who has been to the shop and feels happy
> with the service, then it might be worth the effort.
>
> We had someone like that locally who would do a really good job,
> give advice on all the good innards of the thing, order the parts
> and build it and install the software.
>
> I do like this sort of option.

Even though I personally wouldn't use a Dell PC nowadays nor am I fan
of their means at achieving lower costs, if you want to define the
choice as 'lazy', it's that but I don't think Carol's first thought
was 'will this help the US economy'. ;-)  I think the "little guys"
are good for consumers who want more guidance and options**, but from
my impression, Carol wanted something she could 'use and forget
about'.  Dell will probably be around long enough to support longterm
warranty since I don't know how much 'use and abuse' Carol puts her
computers through for her to bring up warranty issues and it sounded
like she didn't need a specialized computer.

**My Athlon tower was made by a small online shop that's specialty was
video editing computers.  This tower was specifically designed for
each part to be compatible with a MatroxRT editing board.

I'd advocate the smaller shops (and bigger guys like Gateway and
Apple) but it depends on what your needs are.  I think there will
always be room for small computer shops but they need to carve a
'specialty niche'.  For example, I'd like some nice artwork applied to
my computer tower, but I also know custom art can be expensive.  Then
there are 'mod shops' for individual (vanity) modifications. {g}  With
the amount of 'teh pr0n' on my computer, I want my towers looking like
'pimp mobiles' complete with bling. {chuckle}

I went through an 'arts and crafts' stage when I was younger, and
since then, I've gravitated toward technology and practical usage.

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jun 26 19:30:13 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:30:13 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net> <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44A035C5.9040900@internode.on.net>

Dina Lerret wrote:
> On 6/26/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
>> If you know someone else who has been to the shop and feels happy
>> with the service, then it might be worth the effort.
>>
>> We had someone like that locally who would do a really good job,
>> give advice on all the good innards of the thing, order the parts
>> and build it and install the software.
>>
>> I do like this sort of option.
> 
> Even though I personally wouldn't use a Dell PC nowadays nor am I fan
> of their means at achieving lower costs, if you want to define the
> choice as 'lazy', it's that but I don't think Carol's first thought
> was 'will this help the US economy'. ;-)  I think the "little guys"
> are good for consumers who want more guidance and options**, but from
> my impression, Carol wanted something she could 'use and forget
> about'.  Dell will probably be around long enough to support longterm
> warranty since I don't know how much 'use and abuse' Carol puts her
> computers through for her to bring up warranty issues and it sounded
> like she didn't need a specialized computer.

What I call lazy shoppers are the ones who say they have no time,
drive directly to the large shopping centre, pay more for the
convienience and drive off.

The better shopper looks for a bargain, a bit better quality,
some reasonable service and a good price... and there are far
better shoppers than me, but I do ok. :)

> **My Athlon tower was made by a small online shop that's specialty was
> video editing computers.  This tower was specifically designed for
> each part to be compatible with a MatroxRT editing board.
> 
> I'd advocate the smaller shops (and bigger guys like Gateway and
> Apple) but it depends on what your needs are.  I think there will
> always be room for small computer shops but they need to carve a
> 'specialty niche'.  For example, I'd like some nice artwork applied to
> my computer tower, but I also know custom art can be expensive.  Then
> there are 'mod shops' for individual (vanity) modifications. {g}  With
> the amount of 'teh pr0n' on my computer, I want my towers looking like
> 'pimp mobiles' complete with bling. {chuckle}
> 
> I went through an 'arts and crafts' stage when I was younger, and
> since then, I've gravitated toward technology and practical usage.

It's nice to have something which looks nice too, if you can do it.
I've seen modding pages online, well... I am no good with tools at all.
though I can use a screwdriver, I can't use a hammer.

Anytime I've needed to bang a nail into the wall it has always bent.

Wolfie!



From bumbledor at comcast.net  Mon Jun 26 06:10:05 2006
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:10:05 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002301c698e7$2b2dd890$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>

Carol, for what its worth, what ever you do, know this: Norton anti-virus is 
a RESOURCE HOG.
Ive been an avid norton user since the days of the old 8 bit XT systems.. 
Last week I removed Norton.
My computer runs faster and better since I switched to AVG.
as for a computer.. Get what ever you want.. Then get a computer geek to 
help you remove all the spam crap that comes with it.. that way you don't 
erase something the thing needs..
Then set it up the way you want it.
have fun computing after that.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:44 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts


> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>>
>> (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) wrote:
>> > E-Machines is the best, I think, and they're affiliated with
> Gateway.  They
>> > have the least amount of "junk" software included with their
> bundling and
>> > are usually very reliable.  Art recently got a Gateway laptop and it's
>> > lovely!
>>
>> I don't know about the company, so can't pass comment.
>>
>> A copy of windows is about the only program anyone needs
>> excepting drivers for the various cards inside the unit.
>>
>> Wolfie!
>>
>
> Carol:
> Since I started this thread, I guess I should make clear what I use it
> for. I edit for a living and also spend a lot of time on the Internet.
> I can't stand laptops. (Can't explain it; I'm just uncomfortable with
> the look and feel of the things.) I need a nice flat-screen monitor,
> Windows XP, a CD/DVD-RW drive (or CD-RW and DVD-ROM if there's a
> significant price difference, which I rather doubt), anti-virus
> protection, a fast processor and lots of memory for photos, computer
> games (not mine!), writing and editing projects, etc. I'm not sure
> what else except a standard keyboard and mouse, which of course come
> with the computer.
>
> I can't build a computer from scratch myself, but I'm wondering if
> it's a good idea to have a local merchant do it. He seems reputable
> and knowledgeable, but I'm afraid that he might be edged out of
> business by the chain stores or whatever you call them (Dell, etc.).
> that happened to me once before and my warranty was worthless because
> the company no longer existed.
>
> Carol, halfway through the thread now and thanking everybody who's
> contributed so far
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jun 27 00:18:12 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:18:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <002301c698e7$2b2dd890$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <002301c698e7$2b2dd890$6401a8c0@bigcauldron>
Message-ID: <44A07944.8050700@internode.on.net>

bumbledor wrote:
> Carol, for what its worth, what ever you do, know this: Norton anti-virus is 
> a RESOURCE HOG.
> Ive been an avid norton user since the days of the old 8 bit XT systems.. 
> Last week I removed Norton.
> My computer runs faster and better since I switched to AVG.
> as for a computer.. Get what ever you want.. Then get a computer geek to 
> help you remove all the spam crap that comes with it.. that way you don't 
> erase something the thing needs..
> Then set it up the way you want it.
> have fun computing after that.

Oh Yes.

I have had nortons programs destroy my computer, various things.
they're horrid.

Use AVG free, lovely program, updates itself, does the job
and largely minds it's own business.

www.grisoft.com I believe.

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jun 26 07:45:47 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:45:47 -0400
Subject: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <44A035C5.9040900@internode.on.net>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>
	 <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
	 <44A035C5.9040900@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606260045y193902c7t909af418e686585d@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/26/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:

> It's nice to have something which looks nice too, if you can do it.
> I've seen modding pages online, well... I am no good with tools at all.
> though I can use a screwdriver, I can't use a hammer.
>
> Anytime I've needed to bang a nail into the wall it has always bent.

I'm not good with tools either. :-\  Changing an 'existing base' is
typical such as folk paying extra for more LiveJournal icon pics or
other 'personalizing' options, so why not the computer itself?

I'm actually typing this from the computer I pieced together, and
while the blue LED light from the CPU fan is nifty, the silver and red
of the case (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/xaser3/xaser3_index.asp
- v2000A +420 power supply - aluminum series only came in silver) are
rather blah... And don't match the Dell monitor's (I like Dell's
monitors but not interested in their computers) black... Hehe, or the
beige of the Compaq keyboard and mouse (recycled from the older
towers).  It's not that I don't have a sense of aesthetic; it's that I
take into account budget and I really dislike tossing something I can
use just fine because it doesn't look nice... Says the gal with worn
out sleepwear on now. ;-)

Dina



From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jun 27 01:30:52 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:30:52 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400606260045y193902c7t909af418e686585d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>	 <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>	 <44A035C5.9040900@internode.on.net> <1a2738400606260045y193902c7t909af418e686585d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44A08A4C.5010403@internode.on.net>


> I'm actually typing this from the computer I pieced together, and
> while the blue LED light from the CPU fan is nifty, the silver and red
> of the case (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/xaser3/xaser3_index.asp
> - v2000A +420 power supply - aluminum series only came in silver) are
> rather blah... And don't match the Dell monitor's (I like Dell's
> monitors but not interested in their computers) black... Hehe, or the
> beige of the Compaq keyboard and mouse (recycled from the older
> towers).  It's not that I don't have a sense of aesthetic; it's that I
> take into account budget and I really dislike tossing something I can
> use just fine because it doesn't look nice... Says the gal with worn
> out sleepwear on now. ;-)

Yeah my computer had a few extra lights inside it, I bought a "cool 
cathode" [a neon tube] for it's innards and that was nice. the case
was a bit ordinary... only has one side which you can see into.

But it's all steel, this is a good thing because it helps to keep
all the innards cool.

Frankly I'd never just go with a beige box, it's about time people
grew up and realised there are more colours than beige and black.

I mean, there's this joke that us guys don't care... oh yeah?
then why do men love shiny red cars? we've got to put these ugly
things in our home, why shouldn't we expect them to look nice?

BTW: I'm using a toshiba laptop [satellite] it's a very good looking
computer. [my big machine is a bit miserable right now, broke down
last year while I was having chemo and was too ill to fix it...
fine now, but it's still laying there.]

Wolfie!



From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jun 26 16:14:55 2006
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:14:55 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Question for the computer experts
In-Reply-To: <44A08A4C.5010403@internode.on.net>
References: <e7n3kl+2gb6@eGroups.com> <44A021BC.2080800@internode.on.net>
	 <1a2738400606251908l11d22d2bxc69ce989b9c8b092@mail.gmail.com>
	 <44A035C5.9040900@internode.on.net>
	 <1a2738400606260045y193902c7t909af418e686585d@mail.gmail.com>
	 <44A08A4C.5010403@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <1a2738400606260914xd420eega7e2504d740f8895@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/26/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Yeah my computer had a few extra lights inside it, I bought a "cool
> cathode" [a neon tube] for it's innards and that was nice. the case
> was a bit ordinary... only has one side which you can see into.

I've seen tubing like that.  I also thought the combo of liquid
cooling and neon tubing an interesting and useful visual.


> But it's all steel, this is a good thing because it helps to keep
> all the innards cool.

Aye, metal cases.  Since aluminum and steel cool about the same, I
opted for a good aluminum case because it's lighter for a full tower
case with the capability to hold a dozen drives.


Warning: The following may have more pink than a single person can
handle, including Gene Kelly from the movie, What a Way to Go
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058743/ ).

> Frankly I'd never just go with a beige box, it's about time people
> grew up and realised there are more colours than beige and black.

I'd like a Barbie pink case with sparkly stuff--at that rate, I can
hit Kmart's girls toy section for computer decorations such as this
pink Hello Kitty laptop:
http://www.exonome.com/fj/phkl/

It's probably 'wrong' but I like the pink 'feathery boa' edges around
the screen.  If you can't see the pics, the commentary is also
amusing. ;-)

Then there's this Barbie pink PC case:
http://www.wwcb2b.com/acatalog/WWCB2B_COM_CA_R302PP_429.html
and pink keyboard and mouse:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/105593

I think there was breast cancer laptops in pink... Just as there was
yellow laptops for Armstrong support and I recently posted the
Alienware blue laptop with the Superman logo.

Actually, I do want a pink case but more metallic pink and I'd want
the red parts a shiny 'mirror' silver.  Then I want a pink keyboard
with black keys like this puppy:
http://www.pccase.com/products/KB-800PK.html
Evidently, this keyboard came in a rainbow of colors:
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-14566-kyb-kb-800a-pnk.htm

However, it appears that the line was discontinued.  Maybe a clear
(Mac like) version when I can add a dash of pink inside.

Pink, silver, black theme.

http://www.moddin.net/forum/default.asp

Peeking in on some of the ideas there.


> I mean, there's this joke that us guys don't care... oh yeah?
> then why do men love shiny red cars?

To pick up gals? {g}  Peacock theory of flashy colors.


> we've got to put these ugly
> things in our home, why shouldn't we expect them to look nice?
>
> BTW: I'm using a toshiba laptop [satellite] it's a very good looking
> computer. [my big machine is a bit miserable right now, broke down
> last year while I was having chemo and was too ill to fix it...
> fine now, but it's still laying there.]

I've heard mostly negative things about Toshiba's laptops. :-\

Dina



From amuzz at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 26 12:09:42 2006
From: amuzz at yahoo.com (Aida)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:09:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Best of Draco / Hermione fanfiction.
Message-ID: <20060626120942.22421.qmail@web36612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi there ...
   
  I'm kinda of new here and was wondering if you could help me. I have been reading so much of HP / DM fanfiction (all rating from PG to NC-17) and was wondering if anyone know any good fanfiction that features Draco and Hermione as a pair.
   
  Thanks in advance for all the links.
   
  Regards,
  Amuzz

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From plungy116 at aol.com  Tue Jun 27 14:33:36 2006
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah Leigh ...)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:33:36 -0000
Subject: Mugglenet
Message-ID: <e7rfk0+bpa9@eGroups.com>

Does anybody know whats happened to Mugglenet - I can't get on.  i 
tried last night and today and it just says 'unable to locate'.  Any 
clues, anyone?






From plungy116 at aol.com  Wed Jun 28 19:13:09 2006
From: plungy116 at aol.com (Sarah Leigh ...)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:13:09 -0000
Subject: Mugglenet
In-Reply-To: <e7rfk0+bpa9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7ukc5+t148@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Leigh ..." 
<plungy116 at ...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know whats happened to Mugglenet - I can't get on.  i 
> tried last night and today and it just says 'unable to locate'.  Any 
> clues, anyone?
>

S'all right.  I'm on it now.






From drcarole71 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 28 22:42:07 2006
From: drcarole71 at yahoo.com (drcarole71)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:42:07 -0000
Subject: Neville nicknames
Message-ID: <e7v0jv+65j1@eGroups.com>

I named my dogs Molly and Neville.  
I usually call Neville "Nev" or "Nevvie".  Are there commonly used 
nicknames for the name Neville?
Thanks
Carole







From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 29 04:44:29 2006
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:44:29 -0000
Subject: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <e7v0jv+65j1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <e7vlrd+srd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "drcarole71" 
<drcarole71 at ...> wrote:
>
> I named my dogs Molly and Neville.  
> I usually call Neville "Nev" or "Nevvie".  Are there commonly used 
> nicknames for the name Neville?
> Thanks
> Carole
>


Doddie here:

I call the bird I named "neville" ...."Villy" (like Billy with a "V")


I have a couple of cages of Parakeets/Budgies...cage one: Simpsons 
(Moe, Marge, Barney...aka Moemoe,Marge, Barn)---we had a "Homer" but 
he flew away.....cage two: Potterville (Neville, Luna, Ron, aka 
Villy, LuLu and Wonwon)...

Doddie
(Who cannot wait to get a dog, because I name my dogs after authors, 
my birds after characters in books/tv/movies, and my fish are named 
for critics..LOL--I only had two gerbils...named Rosencrantz and 
Guildenstern....only one cat as I'm allergic...but his mum died and 
I adopted him at four days old...only to be murdered four years 
later by a neighbor who fed him poison...(they actually put the 
poison in my yard! *heavy sigh*  anyhoo....next pooch--I'll either 
name Rhubarb-to start a new trend- or Rowlie LOL depending upon who 
survives book seven LOL!)







From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jun 30 01:10:34 2006
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:10:34 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Neville nicknames
In-Reply-To: <e7vlrd+srd@eGroups.com>
References: <e7vlrd+srd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <44A47A0A.3080709@internode.on.net>


> I have a couple of cages of Parakeets/Budgies...cage one: Simpsons 
> (Moe, Marge, Barney.

Barney is the purple one, right? ;)

Wolfie!