What's wrong with "Merry Christmas"?
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 31 02:59:02 UTC 2007
> Magpie:
> Absolutely--the spirit in which they are offered are key. If
somebody
> is thoughtfully and genuinely wishing you a holiday because they
> think it's a nice thing to do, it should be taken that way. If you
> want to also mention for the future that you don't actually
celebrate
> Christmas that can be fine too and done without being rude. Or
else
> you might just accept the greeting and not feel the need to do
that.
> Similarly "Happy Holidays" offered as a genuine greeting that's
> supposed to be inclusive in case the person doesn't celebrate
> Christian should be taken in the proper spirit too.
Alla:
I would NEVER tell a stranger that I do not celebrate Christmas. I
would smile and thank him. Even if it is not wished in proper
spirit, I would assume one.
I ask for more from friends only. Now I myself do not wish strangers
Merry Christmas unless I know for sure they celebrate it, but I
would never demand from them the same.
Magpie:
> Conversely, if part of the spirit of "merry Christmas" is that
nobody
> should ever have to think about anything but the "real" holiday,
or
> the "real" American/Australian/religious/English holiday or
whatever,
> of if the spirit is "I'm oppressed and I'm fighting back by
> aggressively wishing merry Christmas no matter what you
> celebrate"...then that should be taken in the proper spirit too.
> Which is that the person is kind of a jerk.
Alla:
YES.
Magpie:
You can put a Nativity scene up in public--on your lawn where people
can see it or in front of a church as far as I know. If somebody
vandalizes it they're the one's breaking the law. There are,
unfortunately, probably examples of every kind of decoration being
vandalized. The vandalizing of a Nativity scene doesn't necessarily
have anything to do with religious persecution. In my home town
somebody vandalized somebody's decorations, just tearing all the
lights down. Totally shitty thing to do, but not religiously
motivated, I don't think. Still if it is religiously motivated it's
wrong, but I haven't heard of that happening so often.
Alla:
Well, sure there are examples, what I am disputing is the regularity
of this happening. I would even assume that there are bastards who
do that for religious reasons, but as I said, I doubt that this is
happening oh so very often in the US to qualify as oppression AND as
you said they are the ones who breaking the law there.
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