From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Mon Jan  1 01:26:32 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 01:26:32 -0000
Subject: British Language (was: Release date?)
In-Reply-To: <172051.59535.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <en9o08+8ftq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sandra Bejster <sbejster at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Wolfie wrote:
> > Ok, so the British [and us Aussies] speak normal.
> > Biscuit for Cookie, Jumper for Sweater, Boot for
> > Trunk [car] ~~
> > 
> > I have noticed that I can understand the american
> > versions, because we
> > get heaps of american television, yet americans seem
> > to be lacking in bi-lingual skills...
> 
The Harry Potter Lexicon has a section devoted to an explanation of 
the British expressions that differ from the American:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/help/strictly_british1.html

The entire matter of English vs. American has never been stated more 
amusingly than by HL Mencken's The American Language:

http://www.bartleby.com/185/18.html

    - CMC




From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net  Mon Jan  1 14:14:42 2007
From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie)
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 08:14:42 -0600
Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Message-ID: <001f01c72daf$2ee67390$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75>

 Just wanted to wish you all a wonderful 
new year, and good luck with all your 
resolutions!  Hopefully JKR's resolution
is to make sure she doesn't forget to
wrap up any loose ends in DH, and to
get it to us before this time next year!!!


Chancie
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From punkieshazam at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  1 05:17:54 2007
From: punkieshazam at yahoo.com (punkieshazam)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:17:54 -0000
Subject: British Language (was: Release date?)
In-Reply-To: <172051.59535.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ena5i2+5du3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sandra Bejster <sbejster at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Wolfie wrote:
> > Ok, so the British [and us Aussies] speak normal.
> > Biscuit for Cookie, Jumper for Sweater, Boot for
> > Trunk [car] ~~
> > 
> > I have noticed that I can understand the american
> > versions, because we
> > get heaps of american television, yet americans seem
> > to be lacking in bi-lingual skills...
> 
> Hey!  Is that a slam against Americans?!!!

Punkie:

Imagine my surprise, while reading Book I, seeing the exclamation 
crikey. My maternal grandmother was first generation Irish and she 
frequently used that one as well as several others in the books. Mom 
wouldn't let us say it and since Grandma was also known to yell,"Oh 
s**t!" on occasion, my sister and I just assumed that it was a bad 
word. I grew up on a farm in south central Kansas. My father was a 
farmer. He called his barn jacket a jumper. I thought in the books, 
it was a jacket until I found the Lexicon and got strsightened out. 

For HBP I went to the local Barnes and Noble. For a small town, the 
staff did a reallly great costuming job. However, they didn't 
organize several hundred custoners very well. So, I will go to King 
Soopers (Kroger) for Number VII. One of my friends took her grand 
children there and they were out by 12:15. I didn't get home until 
after 1:30. That's 1 1/4 hours that I could have been reading, thank 
you.

Oh well, that's what happens when you are a snarkey old lady.

Punkie






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From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  1 23:14:07 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:14:07 -0000
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
Message-ID: <enc4jv+25so@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone!  I am a new member of both groups.  So far I have enjoyed
reading these messages!  ^_^  It is a fun group, and I agree that
Harry Potter is not just for kids.

Anyway, the title of the 7th books was bothering me for quite
sometime.  However, my brother, who likes to read an anime magazine
('manga') called Shonen Jump <http://shonenjump.com>  ,
read to me from an article from December's
publication <http://www.shonenjump.com/mangatitles/b/manga_b.php>  .

"A Hallow, an evil spirit that preys on humans who display psychic
energy..."

I thought that was interesting.  This, of course, does not necessarily
mean that that is what she means by it, but it does make sense.

So, here is just a sidenote, a maybe type deal.  Thought I'd share a
thought.

Thanks :-D


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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 06:46:24 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:46:24 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Message-ID: <308.72f0bf76.32cb59c0@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/1/07 9:20:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
chnc1024 at bellsouth.net writes:


> Just wanted to wish you all a wonderful 
> new year, and good luck with all your 
> resolutions! Hopefully JKR's resolution
> is to make sure she doesn't forget to
> wrap up any loose ends in DH, and to
> get it to us before this time next year!!!
> 
> Chancie
> 

Hear-Hear!

Sandy


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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 07:14:46 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:14:46 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language (was: Release date?)
Message-ID: <c82.bd2c5a0.32cb6066@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/1/07 3:18:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
punkieshazam at yahoo.com writes:


> For HBP I went to the local Barnes and Noble. For a small town, the 
> staff did a reallly great costuming job. However, they didn't 
> organize several hundred custoners very well. So, I will go to King 
> Soopers (Kroger) for Number VII. One of my friends took her grand 
> children there and they were out by 12:15. I didn't get home until 
> after 1:30. That's 1 1/4 hours that I could have been reading, thank 
> you.
> 
> Oh well, that's what happens when you are a snarkey old lady.
> 
> Punkie
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  

Sandy:

King Soopers?!? LOL! I work at Kroger so I got quite a kick out of King 
Soopers. I haven't decided yet where or how to go about getting book 7. I went to a 
release party at a local bookstore, which has since closed, for HBP. Since 
this is the last book I would like to go to a really big bash, as it will be our 
last chance to do so. OTOH, being no spring chicken myself, I am inclined to 
just stick around work until midnight, pick it up there, and bring my weary 
butt home and start reading. At least that way I could be first in line. But the 
parties are so exciting! Oh well, it's not like I don't have plenty of time 
to think about it, sigh.

Sandy


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From wuff at internode.on.net  Tue Jan  2 08:36:59 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:36:59 +1100
Subject: chocolate frogs
Message-ID: <459A19AB.6020202@internode.on.net>

Make your own chocolate frog box.

http://hedstorm.net/HAUNT/instructions/Chocolate_Frog_Box/index.htm

Wolfie!



From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 09:21:43 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:21:43 -0000
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
In-Reply-To: <enc4jv+25so@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <end877+bfh6@eGroups.com>

~*Liz*~wrote:
>
> ... 
> Anyway, the title of the 7th books was bothering me for quite
> sometime.  However, my brother, who likes to read an anime magazine
> ('manga') called Shonen Jump <http://shonenjump.com>  ,
> read to me from an article from December's
> publication <http://www.shonenjump.com/mangatitles/b/manga_b.php>  .
> 
> "A Hallow, an evil spirit that preys on humans who display psychic
> energy..."
> 


Kemper now:
Sounds like a dementor who wants to chow down on Prof X or Jean Grey in 
a land where magic and mutants meet...




From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 14:06:12 2007
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewyck)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:06:12 -0000
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
In-Reply-To: <enc4jv+25so@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <endosk+d4tp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "~*Liz*~" <cute_janers at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!  I am a new member of both groups.  So far I have 
enjoyed
> reading these messages!  ^_^  It is a fun group, and I agree that
> Harry Potter is not just for kids.
> 
> Anyway, the title of the 7th books was bothering me for quite
> sometime.  However, my brother, who likes to read an anime magazine
> ('manga') called Shonen Jump <http://shonenjump.com>  ,
> read to me from an article from December's
> publication 
<http://www.shonenjump.com/mangatitles/b/manga_b.php>  .
> 
> "A Hallow, an evil spirit that preys on humans who display psychic
> energy..."
> 
> I thought that was interesting.  This, of course, does not 
necessarily
> mean that that is what she means by it, but it does make sense.
> 
> So, here is just a sidenote, a maybe type deal.  Thought I'd share 
a
> thought.
> 
> Thanks :-D

maria8162001:

Hi Liz, welcome and thanks for the link, those in manga are more 
like the dementors who sucks souls and the spellings are different, 
the soul reaper in manga are called "HOLLOWS"  and with HP 
it's "Hallows" which are different in spellings and meanings.




From taguem at jmsearch.com  Tue Jan  2 15:56:08 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:56:08 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Release date?
In-Reply-To: <45970B92.8060707@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <024901c72e86$88c49b30$4246dfdf@MichelleT>

ha! to this day I didn't know it was a sweater that Ginny meant when she was
looking for her Jumper!
 
Michelle 

  _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wolfie!
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:00 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Release date?



pengolodh_sc wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Jeremiah LaFleur" wrote:
>> Jeremiah:
>>
>> Well, first it ahs to be translated into other
>> languages... then double and triple checked... and Jim
>> Dale has to read the whole thing... OUT LOUD!!!! :) LOL.
>> That poor man. So, I can see how it would take more than
>> a year to get the book published. The first 3 or 4 were
>> easy... she just had to have it translated into American
>> English (I'm American... I take full responsibility).
>> Now it's in... what is it... 13 languages? Something
>> insane like that.

Ok, so the British [and us Aussies] speak normal.
Biscuit for Cookie, Jumper for Sweater, Boot for Trunk [car]
Bonnet for Hood [car], Truckie for Trucker, Fairy floss for Candy floss,
Lollies for Candy, Lift for Elevator....

I have noticed that I can understand the american versions, because we
get heaps of american television, yet americans seem to be lacking in
bi-lingual skills... nevermind, I consider that's what these forums are
for. you can ask a friend across the pond what a thing is and sometimes
get a recipe or even a package... it's nice :)

As far as translation goes, there's no real problem there.
Just rip the book up into chapters and give one each to a different
person... so much faster! :)

Wolfie!


 


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From sbejster at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 16:17:49 2007
From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:17:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
In-Reply-To: <1167749707.5347.14963.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20070102161749.48703.qmail@web37212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Liz wrote:
> "A Hallow, an evil spirit that preys on humans who
> display psychic energy..."

Welcome to the group, Liz.  I'm fairly new myself and
only participate now and again (when I actually have
something to contribute and there's actually time in
my life to respond - lol).

Thanks so much for the definition.  I do find that
interesting.  The description does make sense.

For those "Charmed" fans, do you remember when "The
Hollow" took over Cole and others?  It was definitely
an evil entity that took over humans (and demons), but
I don't think they stuck to the "psychic energy" part
of it.  I had forgotten about that until reading Liz's
definition.


Sandra
Dearborn, MI


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From sbejster at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 16:13:02 2007
From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:13:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: British Language (was: Release date?)
In-Reply-To: <1167749707.5347.14963.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20070102161302.91567.qmail@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Punkie wrote:
> 
> Imagine my surprise, while reading Book I, seeing
> the exclamation 
> crikey. My maternal grandmother was first generation
> Irish and she 
> frequently used that one as well as several others
> in the books.

That's interesting, Punkie.  Especially since you're
quoting your Irish Grandmother and considering it a
curse word.  It could well have been at one time?

What I find especially interesting about it is that we
hear it used by the Australians so much.  Almost like
it's their own word (like so many American slang
words).  Maybe it's because of the characters like
Crocodile Dundee and Stever Erwin (not a made-up
character like Dundee, but a "character" nontheless!
LOL).


Sandra
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From sbejster at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  2 16:44:07 2007
From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:44:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: British Language (was: Release date?)
In-Reply-To: <1167664064.802.12531.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20070102164407.74776.qmail@web37204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

montims wrote::
> my favourite - spellotape.  But I think you don't
> have Sellotape in
> America?  Scotch tape doesn't correspond...

Oh, I LOVE that one!  I had forgotten about it. 
"Spellotape" is an adorable name and quite inventive.

I think one of the original American terms for
"Scotch" tape is "cellophane tape" so "spellotape" is
pretty close.  We usually just call it "Scotch" tape
by default now, although "Scotch" is actually a brand
name.  Kind of like saying "Kleenex" for tissues and
"Frigidaire" for refrigerator.  Kleenex and Frigidaire
are both brand names that were so popular they have
practically become the standard name for the item.

Of course, "Frigidaire" is an older name (mostly from
the 60's) so doesn't get used quite so often now.


Sandra
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From Debby970095 at aol.com  Tue Jan  2 19:14:47 2007
From: Debby970095 at aol.com (debby970095)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:14:47 -0000
Subject: The Devil Wears Prada
Message-ID: <eneav7+am1f@eGroups.com>

I am very surprised not to see this before now. But I have just 
recently watched the Devil Wears Prada and there was a part about 
Harry Potteri n the movie. The office aid (Anne Hathaway) is to get a 
copy of the newest Harry Potter book for her boss' (Meryl Streep) 
twins. There was no title on the books that were gotten. They simply 
said Harry Potter Book 7. Just thought that was a neat thing to see 
considering how much I enjoy Harry Potter. Book 7 is already in other 
movies and we just learned the title!!






From wuff at internode.on.net  Wed Jan  3 00:40:30 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:40:30 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language
In-Reply-To: <20070102161302.91567.qmail@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20070102161302.91567.qmail@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <459AFB7E.6060600@internode.on.net>


> What I find especially interesting about it is that we
> hear it used by the Australians so much.  Almost like
> it's their own word (like so many American slang
> words).  Maybe it's because of the characters like
> Crocodile Dundee and Stever Erwin (not a made-up
> character like Dundee, but a "character" nontheless!
> LOL).

Lets clarify this, I'm an Ozzy :)
You heard Steve Irwin say it a lot... in fact it is *seldom*
used by australians and is British slang.

Irwin made it his own.

And yes, he was certainly a character. :)

Wolfie!



From Lana.Dorman at Adelphigroup.com  Wed Jan  3 03:31:24 2007
From: Lana.Dorman at Adelphigroup.com (kibakianakaya)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:31:24 -0000
Subject: A question about wizards
In-Reply-To: <ekhrh8+1l99@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enf82c+a399@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wendy" 
<wendydarling6402 at ...> wrote:
>
> My 10 year old had a question for me that I can not answer. What 
is the
> difference between a wizard and a warlock? I always kind of thought
> that those two names were interchangable, but in the series it 
seems to
> be a special title. So my question is is it just a title in the 
series
> or is it a descriptor of more powers or what? My daughter will 
thank
> you.
> 
> Wendy
>
There was a recent essay on LiveJournal's Harry Potter Essays 
section by Swythyv that addressed that very question.  The essay is 
probably a little too sophisticated for a 10-year old reader, but 
you might check it out and "translate."  The gist of it (going 
completely from memory) is that "Warlock" is a title conferred by 
the Order of Merlin.  Warlocks are a subsection of wizards who 
actively uphold protecting Muggles.  The essay itself is fascinating.




From joseph at kirtland.com  Wed Jan  3 05:17:37 2007
From: joseph at kirtland.com (Joe Bento)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:17:37 -0000
Subject: British Language
In-Reply-To: <459AFB7E.6060600@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <enfe9h+5mi9@eGroups.com>

I live and work in Utah.  My observation is as follows:

Dialects within Britain must be difficult even for the natives.  I 
have a good friend who is a Londoner.  He speaks for the most part in 
the Queen's English as you might hear on the BBC. He's very easy to 
understand.  

My boss at work is a native Mancunian (from Manchester).  I find that 
I must listen extremely carefully to understand him, and 
unfortunately have to occasionally ask him to repeat himself. 

However, having now been with the company for several months, I've 
learned to understand him much better, especially some of the 
Mancunian / Scouser slang.  

Joe


-- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > What I find especially interesting about it is that we
> > hear it used by the Australians so much.  Almost like
> > it's their own word (like so many American slang
> > words).  Maybe it's because of the characters like
> > Crocodile Dundee and Stever Erwin (not a made-up
> > character like Dundee, but a "character" nontheless!
> > LOL).
> 
> Lets clarify this, I'm an Ozzy :)
> You heard Steve Irwin say it a lot... in fact it is *seldom*
> used by australians and is British slang.
> 
> Irwin made it his own.
> 
> And yes, he was certainly a character. :)
> 
> Wolfie!
>





From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 16:28:49 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (Liz Stephens)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 08:28:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
Message-ID: <246331.25714.qm@web37211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That reminds me, I meant to put "Hollow," but my hand slipped :P

Thanks :-)

~*Liz Stephens*~

"If you tell folks you're a college student, folks are so impressed. You can be a student in anything and not have to know anything. Just say toxicology or marine biokinesis, and the person you're talking to will change the subject to himself. If this doesn't work, mention the neural synapses of embryonic pigeons."  -- Chuck Palahniuk 

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From random832 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 17:03:02 2007
From: random832 at gmail.com (Jordan Abel)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:03:02 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] A question about wizards
In-Reply-To: <456CEC3D.5050601@internode.on.net>
References: <ekhrh8+1l99@eGroups.com> <456CEC3D.5050601@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <7b9f25e50701030903p6d2d23cdi68d7aba75c9d28a3@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/28/06, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:
> Wendy wrote:
> > My 10 year old had a question for me that I can not answer. What is the
> > difference between a wizard and a warlock? I always kind of thought
> > that those two names were interchangable, but in the series it seems to
> > be a special title. So my question is is it just a title in the series
> > or is it a descriptor of more powers or what? My daughter will thank
> > you.
> >
> > Wendy
>
> I believe, if you ask Wiccans [and they are the ones to ask in this]

Says who? And anyway, they're certainly not the ones to ask about what
it means "in the series" i.e. in the harry potter books.



From jnferr at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 18:24:21 2007
From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:24:21 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language
In-Reply-To: <enfe9h+5mi9@eGroups.com>
References: <459AFB7E.6060600@internode.on.net> <enfe9h+5mi9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8ee758b40701031024i68fa87ffq2c533648333fd2d@mail.gmail.com>

Joe wrote:
>
> I live and work in Utah.  My observation is as follows:
>
> Dialects within Britain must be difficult even for the natives.  I
> have a good friend who is a Londoner.  He speaks for the most part in
> the Queen's English as you might hear on the BBC. He's very easy to
> understand.
>
> My boss at work is a native Mancunian (from Manchester).  I find that
> I must listen extremely carefully to understand him, and
> unfortunately have to occasionally ask him to repeat himself.
>
> However, having now been with the company for several months, I've
> learned to understand him much better, especially some of the
> Mancunian / Scouser slang.


montims:
And yet, you know, it isn't that difficult.  It is, however, an
identifier...

But any Brit who watches tv hears accents on the soap operas, and others,
particularly cockney and mancunian.  I am of the age to remember the
fantastic "When the Boat comes in", as well as "The Likely Lads" and "Liver
Birds", so I adore Geordie accents.  More accents came in in "Boys from the
Black Stuff" and "Auf Wiedersehen, Pet".  All highly recommended if you have
the chance to see them...

I poshed up my accent while teaching English in Italy, and use it all the
time here - at work, people I speak to on the telephone adore my accent, and
I use this to my advantage...!  But when I return to England, I would be
laughed out of town if I spoke like this - oop t'north I speak a
Sheffield/Chesterfield dialect mix, and in London and elsewhere, I have a
cockney accent.  I also speak much faster - here, I find I have to speak
quite slowly to be understood...


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From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 21:34:56 2007
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 21:34:56 -0000
Subject: The Devil Wears Prada
In-Reply-To: <eneav7+am1f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enh7i0+to5u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "debby970095" <Debby970095 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I am very surprised not to see this before now. But I have just 
> recently watched the Devil Wears Prada and there was a part about 
> Harry Potteri n the movie. The office aid (Anne Hathaway) is to get a 
> copy of the newest Harry Potter book for her boss' (Meryl Streep) 
> twins. There was no title on the books that were gotten. They simply 
> said Harry Potter Book 7. Just thought that was a neat thing to see 
> considering how much I enjoy Harry Potter. Book 7 is already in other 
> movies and we just learned the title!!
>

What's really irritating in the book is that this author's math is even worse than JKR's 
and it's over a really simple, verifiable fact regarding the release date of the *4th* 
book. Or maybe it's the editor's fault. Sorry I can't look it up, but the book is buried in 
a box as we prepare to have shelves installed.

Beth




From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 21:39:15 2007
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 21:39:15 -0000
Subject: chocolate frogs
In-Reply-To: <459A19AB.6020202@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <enh7q3+pnsm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> Make your own chocolate frog box.
> 
> http://hedstorm.net/HAUNT/instructions/Chocolate_Frog_Box/index.htm
> 
> Wolfie!
>

Very cool! I think I can use these for my class this summer!

One year one of my students made chocolate frog *soap* for our Wizarding 
Marketplace. One of the students from the following class asked if he could have one 
and took a bite before anyone could warn him. He spent a lot of time trying to wash 
out the taste, poor kid! They were pretty lifelike, though :-)

Beth




From jamese_malfoy at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  3 21:45:50 2007
From: jamese_malfoy at yahoo.com (Jamese Kemp)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:45:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: One-shot
Message-ID: <20070103214550.27291.qmail@web34010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey Everyone!!!
  I wrote a new one-shot. Check it out.
Remus/Suprise
Rating: M for a brief part
http://www.hpfandom.net/eff/viewstory.php?sid=14823

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Thu Jan  4 04:23:16 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:23:16 -0500
Subject: 12 Days Of Christmas--Yahoo Style
Message-ID: <001101c72fb8$0e7fc150$67a4a8c0@rosie>

My brother sent this to me and I just knew some of you would appreciate it.
I can particularly empathize with the First Day Of Christmas.  Enjoy!

Happy New Year,

Lee :-)

On the first day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
A post from a week ago.

On the second day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the third day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the fourth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the fifth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the sixth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the seventh day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
7 hours with no mail
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the eighth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
8 channels not working
7 hours with no mail
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the ninth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
9 Viagra advertisements
8 channels not working
7 hours with no mail
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the tenth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
10 propositions
9 Viagra advertisements
8 channels not working
7 hours with no mail
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the eleventh day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
11 pieces of spam
10 propositions
9 Viagra advertisements
8 channels not working
7 hours with no mail
6 disconnections
5 frozen PM's
4 jerks at Tech Help
3 error messages
2 web crashes and a post from a week ago.

On the twelfth day of Christmas Yahoo gave to me
12 reasons to unsubscribe.

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  4 16:35:56 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:35:56 -0000
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
In-Reply-To: <endosk+d4tp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enjadc+r6mr@eGroups.com>

...
> 
> Hi Liz, welcome and thanks for the link, those in manga are more 
> like the dementors who sucks souls and the spellings are different, 
> the soul reaper in manga are called "HOLLOWS"  and with HP 
> it's "Hallows" which are different in spellings and meanings.




Yeah, I figured it probably was different.  I guess I'll just have to
wait and see...





From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  4 16:36:12 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:36:12 -0000
Subject: New Member/ Found something out
In-Reply-To: <end877+bfh6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enjads+5jqg@eGroups.com>


> Kemper now:
> Sounds like a dementor who wants to chow down on Prof X or Jean Grey in 
> a land where magic and mutants meet...
>



It does :-P




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jan  4 19:09:10 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:09:10 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
Message-ID: <enjjcm+n04p@eGroups.com>

What do Brits call the first school taht children attend? The one for 
5/6 years up to 11ish? Primary, elementary, grammar... I need a good 
general word.

Blame it on CM and Ginger, there's a FILK brewing.

Potioncat




From jnferr at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 20:54:29 2007
From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:54:29 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enjjcm+n04p@eGroups.com>
References: <enjjcm+n04p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8ee758b40701041254r8f7cd8cv548b04469793f20@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/4/07, potioncat <willsonkmom at msn.com> wrote:
> What do Brits call the first school taht children attend? The one for
> 5/6 years up to 11ish? Primary, elementary, grammar... I need a good
> general word.
montims:
I went to Junior School - I don't know if that term is still correct



From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jan  5 02:37:15 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:37:15 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enjjcm+n04p@eGroups.com>
References: <enjjcm+n04p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <459DB9DB.1040104@internode.on.net>

potioncat wrote:
> What do Brits call the first school taht children attend? The one for 
> 5/6 years up to 11ish? Primary, elementary, grammar... I need a good 
> general word.

The Poms probably have the same setup we do in Oz.

Kindergarten

Primary [Grades 0 (often called "Bubs") to 6]

Highschool [Levels 7 to 12] or Tech school.

and then people either work or go to "Uni". [University]

Wolfie!



From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  5 09:07:20 2007
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:07:20 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <459DB9DB.1040104@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <enl4g8+un70@eGroups.com>

> potioncat wrote:
> > What do Brits call the first school taht children attend? The 
one for 5/6 years up to 11ish? Primary, elementary, grammar... I 
need a good general word.
> 

Dung:

I went to Infant School from 4/5, 5/6 and 6/7 years old, then Junior 
School from 7/8, 8/9, 9/10, 10/11 years old. Infant and Junior 
schools can be lumped together into Primary School. So I went to 
Coombe Hill Infant School, and then Coombe Hill Junior School, 
though they were separate schools with separate sports days, 
assemblies etc, they were on the same site. Then you have 
Secondary/Senior/High school from 11-18. 

However, there are also 'middle schools', which belong to another 
system with which I am not at all familiar. I think they end 
somewhere around the age of 13, but don't quote me on that... Geoff 
would probably know.

Dung.
(BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use the 
word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)




From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  5 10:40:19 2007
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewyck)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:40:19 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <459DB9DB.1040104@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <enl9uj+10g7i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> potioncat wrote:
> > What do Brits call the first school taht children attend? The 
one for 
> > 5/6 years up to 11ish? Primary, elementary, grammar... I need a 
good 
> > general word.
> 

maria8162001 here:

Primary and Elementary are the same, which are from 1st to 6th 
grades or from 5 to 11 years old.Primary or Elementary Schools are 
both public and private.With Primary/Elementary there are: Infant 
Schools, Junior Schools and Preparatory Schools.
Grammar school, State school and Independent schools are secondary 
school or high school which are from 1st to 6th year or from ages 
11/12 - 16/17. Which account for 6 years of primary/elementary which 
is normal and 6 years for secondary/high school. After 6th years in 
high school the students can iether continue with vocational or 
higher(colleges/universities and masteral) education depending on 
their GCE advance level or stop and start working.




From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jan  5 11:05:06 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:05:06 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enl9uj+10g7i@eGroups.com>
References: <enl9uj+10g7i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <459E30E2.6000905@internode.on.net>


> Grammar school, State school and Independent schools are secondary 
> school or high school 

We have Grammar and State, but those are for young students.

There are Independent ones like Catholic schools [where a lot of
kids get their heards filled with lies about imaginary beings and
sins] and the Steiner schools.

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jan  5 11:00:38 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:00:38 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enl4g8+un70@eGroups.com>
References: <enl4g8+un70@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <459E2FD6.20806@internode.on.net>


> (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use the 
> word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)

I can see that the Aussie system doesn't follow the British system
as closely as I had thought.

Kindergarten is German = Childs Garden.

There are Creches here now for kids, but they're not really a
kindergarten, I think they're more like a place to leave the kids
while Mum works.

Although I sort of got the impression that's what my entire school
life was for.

Sitting there bored to tears, wondering what was "out there".

Wolfie!



From wuff at internode.on.net  Fri Jan  5 14:57:21 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:57:21 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language
In-Reply-To: <172051.59535.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <172051.59535.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <459E6751.9030206@internode.on.net>


> One of my favorite things in reading the books is the
> new terminology JKR comes up with in regards to the
> wizarding world ... especially when it is something
> that is close to what is in the mortal world.  I love
> the word "Sugar Quills" and the "Wizarding Wireless
> Network" for the radio station.

I have always liked the sound of the radio network,
I'm an ex-DJ anyway...

Reckon they'd hire a werewolf?

Wolfie!



From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 04:24:23 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:24:23 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <459E2FD6.20806@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <enn89n+11qm@eGroups.com>

Yeah, I found out recently that the US school system is based on the 
German one, so we're the ones that have kindergarten.  And the word 
gymnasium too, although it doesn't mean the same thing.  I vaguely 
remember the German meaning is the same as our high school.  Feel 
free to correct me.

Snape's Witch

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use 
the 
> > word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)
> 
> I can see that the Aussie system doesn't follow the British system
> as closely as I had thought.
> 
> Kindergarten is German = Childs Garden.
> 
> There are Creches here now for kids, but they're not really a
> kindergarten, I think they're more like a place to leave the kids
> while Mum works.
> 
> Although I sort of got the impression that's what my entire school
> life was for.
> 
> Sitting there bored to tears, wondering what was "out there".
> 
> Wolfie!
>





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sat Jan  6 13:35:22 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 13:35:22 -0000
Subject: British Language
In-Reply-To: <459E6751.9030206@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <eno8iq+kb4j@eGroups.com>

Wolfie:
> 
> Reckon they'd hire a werewolf?

Potioncat:
Can't speak for the British WW, but in America there was a famous DJ by 
the name of Wolfman Jack.





From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jan  6 14:44:15 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:44:15 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language
In-Reply-To: <eno8iq+kb4j@eGroups.com>
References: <eno8iq+kb4j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <459FB5BF.5010600@internode.on.net>

potioncat wrote:
> Wolfie:
>> Reckon they'd hire a werewolf?
> 
> Potioncat:
> Can't speak for the British WW, but in America there was a famous DJ by 
> the name of Wolfman Jack.

There were two fellows who made me want to be a DJ, which I was for
a while.

Wolfman Jack from the states, not that I knew a lot about him,
but there were movies and so on where there were references.

And.

Kenny Everett, From the UK who was an incredibly funny radio and tv
personality in the 80s.

Wolfie!



From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 18:35:15 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:35:15 -0000
Subject: Release date?
In-Reply-To: <024901c72e86$88c49b30$4246dfdf@MichelleT>
Message-ID: <enoq53+fgqh@eGroups.com>

Neither did I...thanks so much!


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michelle A. Tague" 
<taguem at ...> wrote:
>
> ha! to this day I didn't know it was a sweater that Ginny meant 
when she was
> looking for her Jumper!
>  
> Michelle 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wolfie!
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:00 PM
> To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Release date?
> 
> 
> 
> pengolodh_sc wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Jeremiah LaFleur" wrote:
> >> Jeremiah:
> >>
> >> Well, first it ahs to be translated into other
> >> languages... then double and triple checked... and Jim
> >> Dale has to read the whole thing... OUT LOUD!!!! :) LOL.
> >> That poor man. So, I can see how it would take more than
> >> a year to get the book published. The first 3 or 4 were
> >> easy... she just had to have it translated into American
> >> English (I'm American... I take full responsibility).
> >> Now it's in... what is it... 13 languages? Something
> >> insane like that.
> 
> Ok, so the British [and us Aussies] speak normal.
> Biscuit for Cookie, Jumper for Sweater, Boot for Trunk [car]
> Bonnet for Hood [car], Truckie for Trucker, Fairy floss for Candy 
floss,
> Lollies for Candy, Lift for Elevator....
> 
> I have noticed that I can understand the american versions, because 
we
> get heaps of american television, yet americans seem to be lacking 
in
> bi-lingual skills... nevermind, I consider that's what these forums 
are
> for. you can ask a friend across the pond what a thing is and 
sometimes
> get a recipe or even a package... it's nice :)
> 
> As far as translation goes, there's no real problem there.
> Just rip the book up into chapters and give one each to a different
> person... so much faster! :)
> 
> Wolfie!
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 18:33:11 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:33:11 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enn89n+11qm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enoq17+cc07@eGroups.com>


I took 3 years of German in high school and one semester in college, and
that's what I've learned.



Here's what I found in About.com <http://www.about.com/>  :  German
students usually attend a Grundschule (Volksschule in Austria) for the
first four years (kindergarten is not mandatory, nor is it usually part
of the public school system). At the age of ten in most Bundesl?nder,
students and their parents must decide the next step in their education.
That is, which type of school they will attend: Hauptschule, Realschule
or Gymnasium (in that order of prestige and difficulty).

And Gymnasium is a secondary academic school...so you were right ;-)




--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Elizabeth Snape"
<snapes_witch at ...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I found out recently that the US school system is based on the
> German one, so we're the ones that have kindergarten. And the word
> gymnasium too, although it doesn't mean the same thing. I vaguely
> remember the German meaning is the same as our high school. Feel
> free to correct me.
>
> Snape's Witch
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" wuff@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > > (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use
> the
> > > word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)
> >
> > I can see that the Aussie system doesn't follow the British system
> > as closely as I had thought.
> >
> > Kindergarten is German = Childs Garden.
> >
> > There are Creches here now for kids, but they're not really a
> > kindergarten, I think they're more like a place to leave the kids
> > while Mum works.
> >
> > Although I sort of got the impression that's what my entire school
> > life was for.
> >
> > Sitting there bored to tears, wondering what was "out there".
> >
> > Wolfie!
> >
>




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From sbejster at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  6 19:31:25 2007
From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:31:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: British Language - Wolfman Jack
In-Reply-To: <1168091833.785.92321.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <970007.7616.qm@web37202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Wolfie:
> > 
> > Reckon they'd hire a werewolf?
> 
> Potioncat:
> Can't speak for the British WW, but in America there
> was a famous DJ by the name of Wolfman Jack.

Ahhhh, good old Wolfman.  He was great.  Everybody
loved him so I'm sure they'd love you, too, Wolfie!


Sandra
Dearborn, MI


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From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net  Sun Jan  7 00:49:09 2007
From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 18:49:09 -0600
Subject: Way OT, Student loan info?
Message-ID: <001301c731f5$a49d0190$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75>

Hi,
I am looking at going back to school as a Nurse, and I 
was wondering if any of you knew anything about 
Educational loans.  Can you apply only for the amount 
of tuition, or are you allowed to add to them to help
with other expenses while in school?  And I know that
there are programs for Nurses where after you graduate
if you promise to work in a particular state they will pay 
back your student loans, minus interest, much like the
way that some states work with teachers.  I was wondering
if any of you knew if this program would pay the whole 
loan amount, or would they only reimburse the cost of 
tuition?  I was also curious as to whether Student loans 
were expected to be paid while your still in school, or if 
payments are deferred until graduation.  Any info at all 
would be greatly helpful, and I'm sure that there are 
others who could benefit from this information as well.

Thanks in advance!
Chancie
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jan  7 02:53:24 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:53:24 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: British Language - Wolfman Jack
In-Reply-To: <970007.7616.qm@web37202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <970007.7616.qm@web37202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45A060A4.20200@internode.on.net>

Sandra Bejster wrote:
>> Wolfie:
>>> Reckon they'd hire a werewolf?
>> Potioncat:
>> Can't speak for the British WW, but in America there
>> was a famous DJ by the name of Wolfman Jack.
> 
> Ahhhh, good old Wolfman.  He was great.  Everybody
> loved him so I'm sure they'd love you, too, Wolfie!

Us woofers are cute, ya know :)

Wolfie!



From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sun Jan  7 04:56:24 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:56:24 -0000
Subject: Gotta read
Message-ID: <enpuho+ne2i@eGroups.com>

I've just finished "Jigs and Reels" a collection of short stories by 
Joanne Harris. I enjoy her books very much. To the HP point, one of 
them "Class of '81" is HP in disguise. I kept thinking, "what a 
coincidence" then, "this can't be just coincidence" then came the 
word 'bogwarts' and I knew it was intentional.

One of the stories is "Last Train to Dogtown." Sort of a Twilight Zone 
type. At the library I saw a book with almost the same name. So perhaps 
Harris is poking fun at other writers and I didn't pick up on the 
others.

If anyone else  has read this, I'd like to hear your reaction.

Potioncat




From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net  Sun Jan  7 14:51:22 2007
From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:51:22 -0600
Subject: was [HPforGrownups] JKR's Rubbish Bin
Message-ID: <001701c7326b$4c764fa0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75>


Hi, 

I was just wandering through JKR's site and I saw a few details in the Rubbish Bin section 
which I don't understand..it's probably nothing, but isn't the rubbish bin a perfect place to 
hide significant stuff (Sherlock Holmes' theory and all that)?

So I'd like to know what means the shattered sentence just below the bin - saying, if you 
don't want to have a look there now: 
ring / tap / times /five / within / in. / you / I am/ and / no / get / Here

..and I'd also like to know why she keeps some memory tiles there, I don't know if my 
woring is right - you know that game in which you have to switch tiles and find the 
matching ones? They look like it, at any rate. There is a spider, a lizard, a snake, a unicorn, 
and three very very strange symbols: something that looks like the giant squid, a three-
headed line that could be a multiple-headed snake or some sort of candelabra, and above 
all what mystifies me most (being a student of classical archaeology): the outline of the 
protection eyes you find on some Greek drinking vessel. Now, ok for coincidences, 
but...plus, there are seven of them...seven books, seven horcruxes, seven Weasley 
brothers...looks like LV isn't alone in believing that seven is a powerfully magical number. 
:D

Any idea about the sentence and those tiles?
**************************************************************************************************

Chancie:

I took the liberty of posting this reply in OT Chatter, since it 
is more about the website than actuall cannon. The broken
sentence is there to give you a clue on how to get another
item for the scrap book on the main page.  I forgot what it's
supposed to say, but you can visit Mugglenet.com, and they
have a page on how to find all the pages.  Hope that helps.

Chancie





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Date: 7 Jan 2007 16:47:03 -0000
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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  7 17:45:53 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:45:53 -0000
Subject: Way OT, Student loan info?
In-Reply-To: <001301c731f5$a49d0190$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <enrbkh+73tk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Chancie" <chnc1024 at ...> 
wrote:
>Chanice wrote:
> Hi,
> I am looking at going back to school as a Nurse, and I 
> was wondering if any of you knew anything about 
> Educational loans.  Can you apply only for the amount 
> of tuition, or are you allowed to add to them to help
> with other expenses while in school?  And I know that
> there are programs for Nurses where after you graduate
> if you promise to work in a particular state they will pay 
> back your student loans, minus interest, much like the
> way that some states work with teachers.  I was wondering
> if any of you knew if this program would pay the whole 
> loan amount, or would they only reimburse the cost of 
> tuition?  I was also curious as to whether Student loans 
> were expected to be paid while your still in school, or if 
> payments are deferred until graduation.  Any info at all 
> would be greatly helpful, and I'm sure that there are 
> others who could benefit from this information as well.
> 

Kemper now:
For government loans (stafford, etc.) apply through FAFSA at
fafsa.ed.gov
It only pays for school (tuition, books and such).
Payments start after you graduate.

You can apply for private student loan (Lending Tree).
Tuition or housing or whatever you want
Payment starts immediately (usually paying interest only)

Hospital sometimes pay back your student loans up to certain amount 
by giving you a stipend after so many hours of work.

I'm not sure about states.

Good luck!




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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jan  8 02:02:45 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:02:45 -0500
Subject: An HP Ref--Very Cute
Message-ID: <000801c732c9$16fb6d20$67a4a8c0@rosie>

Hi,

Jeff Guinn has two lovely Christmas books out.  One is "The Autobiography Of
Santa Claus" and the other is "How Mrs. Claus Saved Christmas."  In that
book, there's a wonderful HP ref in the first chapter.  It says how Santa
expected Bill Pickett to choose movies to watch that were cowboy movies and
was suprised that the Bill preferred to watch movies about "a colorful boy
wizard named Harry Potter."

What a grinner that was!

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From elanor.isolda at googlemail.com  Mon Jan  8 14:01:37 2007
From: elanor.isolda at googlemail.com (Elanor Isolda)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:01:37 +0000
Subject: Fwd: Sectus 2007: New Venue and Submissions Deadline Extension
In-Reply-To: <6493bc80701080600uaca39ccucbfc5f35576083a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6493bc80701080600uaca39ccucbfc5f35576083a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6493bc80701080601j2c5a80bl37d0684c40a8d029@mail.gmail.com>

Due to higher than anticipated interest, Sectus has decided to expand
and the main conference will now take place at the University of
Westminster's Cavendish Campus.

The Cavendish Campus is located just six minutes' walk from the
original venue, and slightly closer to the official conference hotel,
so any accommodation arrangements made privately should still be
suitable. Details of the official Sectus hotel and our new hostel
option are available at http://www.sectus.org/stay.php

With the extra space and new facilities now available to us, we've
also decided to extend our deadline for submitting proposals for
papers, presentations, discussions and workshops. Abstracts or
proposals are now due by 28th February 2007.

More details about the venue and a map can be found at
http://www.sectus.org/venue.php.

Registration is still available at the ?55 rate until January 31st,
after which the registration fee will rise to ?65 as previously
announced. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us
at info at sectus.org.

We can't wait to meet you all at the new, bigger and better Sectus 2007!

Regards

Elanor Isolda
Conference Chair
Sectus 2007

--
http://elanor-isolda.livejournal.com

Celebrate the 10th anniversary of Harry Potter in London!  Register
now for Sectus 2007 at http://www.sectus.org



From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jan  8 16:28:43 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:28:43 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <enl4g8+un70@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <entrfr+d5de@eGroups.com>

 
> Dung.
> (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use the 
> word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)


Potioncat:
Oh, I remember nursery school! In our area of the US they were 
privately run day cares. At least,they were an eon ago when I was that 
age.

Dung, I just came across your FILK to Ozymandias (sp) Very good!

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. The FILK will be posted 
tomorrow (in celebration) at the main site.
Kathy





From lorac44444 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 01:24:33 2007
From: lorac44444 at yahoo.com (lorac44444)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:24:33 -0000
Subject: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
Message-ID: <ens6gh+imju@eGroups.com>

Coincidence or importance?
1945 WW2
This is mentioned more than once in the books...

lorac44444



From juli17 at aol.com  Mon Jan  8 17:57:13 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:57:13 -0500
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <1168276631.1032.81767.m20@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1168276631.1032.81767.m20@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <8C901658F93C499-97C-1718@WEBMAIL-RA19.sysops.aol.com>

 
 
 
So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't she?
And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
 
I suppose the most obvious intepretation of no wish would be that
Snape has joined the ranks of evil characters, thus JKR is no longer
recognizing his birthday, as she doesn't recognize Voldemort's, Lucius
Malfoy's, Bellatrix's, etc. 
 
Equally, the obvious interpretation of a happy birthday wish would
be that Snape is DDM, one of the good guys.
 
So what do I think JKR will do? I don't think she will wish Snape a  
happy birthday, though I believe he's DDM. Because how can JKR
wish even a DDM!Snape a happy birthday? At this moment (in canon)
Snape is either on the run or back with Voldemort. He's just killed his
mentor, he is reviled by the WW, being hunted by Aurors, and along
with trying to keep his own skin perhaps also trying to keep Draco 
alive and safe--or even trying to turn Draco to the "Good" side. Does
he really have the time or the inclination to celebrate his birthday, let
alone derive any "happiness" from it? (Unless of course Voldemort throws 
birthday parties for his DEs, then Snape might be forced to partake of 
whatever "festivities" Voldemort might force on him...)
 
Though JKR could still note his birthday without extending good wishes.
But that's the most I can see her doing, which would conveniently still
leave Snape's alliegance and character (good vs bad) up for grabs. 
 
Julie, waiting to see how JKR handles Snape's big day.
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From krulwich at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 18:13:24 2007
From: krulwich at yahoo.com (krulwich)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:13:24 -0000
Subject: Killing curses in the Torah  (Harry Potter and Torah)
Message-ID: <enu1k4+lrd5@eGroups.com>

In my Harry Potter and Torah blog I'm writing about the subject of 
killing curses in the Torah.  This subject was mentioned offhand in 
my book, Harry Potter and Torah, but was not developed in the book.  
I've started writing about it in the blog today, and will continue 
developing the theme over the course of the week.

The blog is at: http://harrypottertorah.blogspot.com/
The book's home page is: http://harrypottertorah.blogspot.com/

I'm writing about this subject this week because it relates to this 
week's Torah portion, Shmos (aka Shmot, Shemot, Shemos, etc).  The 
stages in which I'm writing on the subject is similar to the stages 
in which I wrote the chapters of Harry Potter and Torah.

Comments welcome through the blog or via e-mail to 
author at harrypottertorah.com

--Dov






From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jan  8 18:57:57 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:57:57 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <8C901658F93C499-97C-1718@WEBMAIL-RA19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <enu47l+2d9j@eGroups.com>

 juli17 at ... wrote:
  
> So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't she?
> And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?

Potioncat:
She wished him a happy birthday last year, after HBP.

I'm not sure what to make of the happy birthday list. Why are some 
names not on it? Why are Draco and Snape there at all?f

Potioncat (baking a cake, all the same.)





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jan  8 18:09:30 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:09:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <entrfr+d5de@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000001c73350$24cb1e00$67a4a8c0@rosie>

| > Dung.
| > (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use the 
| > word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' or 'playgroup'.)
| 
| 
| Potioncat:
| Oh, I remember nursery school! In our area of the US they were 
| privately run day cares. At least, they were an eon ago when I 
| was that 
| age.

[Lee]:
Yeah, and now we've got Day Care, and then Head Start which is what some
call the Kindergarten program now, I think.  

<Sigh> Times change, words change.  Forty-plus years ago, I remember Nursery
School, Kindergarten, Elementary School, Junior Hi and then Hi School.  Now
the system is sorta split in most places into Head Start, Primary School,
Middle School, (which in some places takes in part of Junior Hi) Junior High
(which in some places is still separate from Middle), and Hi School.  I
can't help but think the system was revamped to handle the population
growth. :-)  Just my opinion.

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Who liked the simpler life.)




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 19:12:30 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:12:30 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
Message-ID: <enu52u+9ti5@eGroups.com>

I'm hoping someone he is familiar with these books and 
can tell if they are worth the cover price.

Tom Sniegoski
"Sleeper Code"
"Sleeper Agenda"

These are in the Young Adult section, and appear to be
companion pieces.


John Connally
"The Book of Lost Things"

Recently released and found in the General section but is
about a young boy.


I'm always looking for good books to read, but my budget is
so tight I can't afford to buy books and be wrong.

Any opinions would be appreciated. 

Steve/bboyminn




From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 22:26:38 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:26:38 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <ens6gh+imju@eGroups.com>
References: <ens6gh+imju@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701081426t626f23e9g4e32d499439ff12c@mail.gmail.com>

Jeremiah:

I don't know about coincidence but it does make me feel pretty creepy...
Wasn't it GoF that was held back because of the September 11th attacks?

And JKR's mother's death... wierd.

I think it has more to do with tthe story than we know and establishes the
importance of DD as a force to be reconed with when it comes to the Dark
Arts and their mis-use. (not unlike my grammar).

I think that we need to look at a time-line.
Who knows what the year is in PS/SS when Harry goes to Hogwarts? Harry is
11. OR, in CoS he's 12 and we find Voldemort's diary from 50 years before.
If we're in the 1990's and look 50 years back, it's possible that Tom Riddle
had contact with Grindevald (sp?) and thus impressed upon young Riddle that
there is no good or evil, only power. A passing of the torch, if you will.

But, if you're going for the Hitler Defeated aspect, I'm sure it has an
importance. Natzi Germany and the Brittish Isles have a strong reaction to
modern Europe even today (hope i'm not preaching to the choir. I'm an
American and most Americans aren't aware of Europe's utter destruction
during WW2. 'Cause our boys came home to a functioning country and had jobs
and wives and leisure time).


On 1/7/07, lorac44444 <lorac44444 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Coincidence or importance?
> 1945 WW2
> This is mentioned more than once in the books...
>
> lorac44444
> 
>


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From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 22:43:59 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:43:59 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <enu47l+2d9j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enuhff+1ism@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> 
wrote:
>
>  juli17@ wrote:
>   
> > So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't 
she?
> > And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
> 
> Potioncat:
> She wished him a happy birthday last year, after HBP.
> 
> I'm not sure what to make of the happy birthday list. Why are some 
> names not on it? Why are Draco and Snape there at all?f
> 
> Potioncat (baking a cake, all the same.)
>

Alla:

Squeeeee, isn't the calendar shows the Happy Birthday the day before?

I mean, it may of course show up tomorrow, but so far it is not there.

I would love for that to be the proof of Snape traitorous nature and 
the fact that he will be gone forever and ever at the end of the 
series. But I must say that if it will not show up, it is most likely 
the attempt of misdirection on JKR's behalf, to make us keep guessing 
as the date of publication comes closer.

IMO of course.

Having said all of that, if it does not show up, it will make me very 
happy reader regardless.

At least I will be able to hope till the book comes that it means 
that I want it to mean, hehe.




From mwood005 at houston.rr.com  Mon Jan  8 23:08:39 2007
From: mwood005 at houston.rr.com (melody_wood14)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:08:39 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <000001c73350$24cb1e00$67a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <enuitn+4lg2@eGroups.com>

Melody
Head Start is Pre-Kindergarten(4 year olds) in the U.S. In some 
places areas it is only half a school day and in others it is a full 
school day long. Then you have Kindergarten and so on. My kids 
started learning how to read in Pre-Kindergarten.

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at ...> wrote:
>
> | > Dung.
> | > (BTW, I've never heard any non-pretentious native of the UK use 
the 
> | > word 'kindergarten'. We call it 'nursery school' 
or 'playgroup'.)
> | 
> | 
> | Potioncat:
> | Oh, I remember nursery school! In our area of the US they were 
> | privately run day cares. At least, they were an eon ago when I 
> | was that 
> | age.
> 
> [Lee]:
> Yeah, and now we've got Day Care, and then Head Start which is what 
some
> call the Kindergarten program now, I think.  
> 
> <Sigh> Times change, words change.  Forty-plus years ago, I 
remember Nursery
> School, Kindergarten, Elementary School, Junior Hi and then Hi 
School.  Now
> the system is sorta split in most places into Head Start, Primary 
School,
> Middle School, (which in some places takes in part of Junior Hi) 
Junior High
> (which in some places is still separate from Middle), and Hi 
School.  I
> can't help but think the system was revamped to handle the 
population
> growth. :-)  Just my opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee :-)
> (Who liked the simpler life.)
>





From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 00:16:37 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:16:37 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <enuhff+1ism@eGroups.com>
References: <enu47l+2d9j@eGroups.com> <enuhff+1ism@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701081616i551d1171x220b02c63eee3427@mail.gmail.com>

juli17@ wrote:

So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't
she?
And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
-----------------------------
Potioncat:
 She wished him a happy birthday last year, after HBP.

I'm not sure what to make of the happy birthday list. Why are some
names not on it? Why are Draco and Snape there at all?f

Potioncat (baking a cake, all the same.)
---------------------------------
Alla:

Squeeeee, isn't the calendar shows the Happy Birthday the day before?

I mean, it may of course show up tomorrow, but so far it is not there.
===========

Jeremiah:

It's there... No, really. I just checked and it's 4:15pm Pacific Standard
Time (I'm in San Diego, California) and her calendar says: Happy Birthday
Severus Snape.

Hmmm... well, I'll bake a cake and then chew the all the love out of it...
lol. :) ('cuas ei like Snape... as a devious character with questionable
scruples, that is... just dandy).


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From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 01:29:28 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:29:28 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <948bbb470701081616i551d1171x220b02c63eee3427@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <enur5o+d5h7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jeremiah LaFleur" 
<hpfreakazoid at ...> wrote:
>
> juli17@ wrote:
> 
> So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't
> she?
> And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
> -----------------------------
> Potioncat:
>  She wished him a happy birthday last year, after HBP.
> 
> I'm not sure what to make of the happy birthday list. Why are some
> names not on it? Why are Draco and Snape there at all?f
> 
> Potioncat (baking a cake, all the same.)
> ---------------------------------
> Alla:
> 
> Squeeeee, isn't the calendar shows the Happy Birthday the day 
before?
> 
> I mean, it may of course show up tomorrow, but so far it is not 
there.
> ===========
> 
> Jeremiah:
> 
> It's there... No, really. I just checked and it's 4:15pm Pacific 
Standard
> Time (I'm in San Diego, California) and her calendar says: Happy 
Birthday
> Severus Snape.
> 
> Hmmm... well, I'll bake a cake and then chew the all the love out 
of it...
> lol. :) ('cuas ei like Snape... as a devious character with 
questionable
> scruples, that is... just dandy).
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Alla:

Oh, well. Too bad if you ask me ;)

I can always comfort myself that she wishes Happy birthday to the 
characters who survive and that Snape will be celebrating his 
birthdays in Azkaban once the war is ended.




From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Tue Jan  9 02:47:28 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:47:28 -0000
Subject: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <ens6gh+imju@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <enuvo0+pbb0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lorac44444" <lorac44444 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Coincidence or importance?
> 1945 WW2
> This is mentioned more than once in the books...
> 
> lorac44444

He's only mentioned twice, in chaps. 6 & 13 of Philosopher's Stone - 
both times are when Harry reads Dumbledore's Chocolate Frogs card.

There has been much speculation, but we don't know whether 
Grindelwald had any link with Hitler,  or (more importantly, for our 
purposes) with Lord Voldemort. 

Unsurprisingly, there are fanfic accounts of this possible link:

http://www.thesnitch.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=341 

   - CMC




From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Tue Jan  9 02:57:46 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:57:46 -0000
Subject: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <948bbb470701081426t626f23e9g4e32d499439ff12c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <env0ba+8std@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jeremiah LaFleur" 
<hpfreakazoid at ...> wrote:
>
> Jeremiah:
> 
> I don't know about coincidence but it does make me feel pretty 
creepy...
> Wasn't it GoF that was held back because of the September 11th 
attacks?

No - GoF was released in June 2000, more than a year before the 9/11 
attacks.
> 

> If we're in the 1990's and look 50 years back, it's possible that 
Tom Riddle
> had contact with Grindevald (sp?) and thus impressed upon young 
Riddle that
> there is no good or evil, only power. A passing of the torch, if 
you will.

Harry's CoS time-turning took him to 1943 - the young Tom Riddle 
could have known Hitler, but it seems unlikely. At any rate, the 
Riddle back story as given in HBP shows that Hitler could have only 
been a minimal influence at best. Anyway, why would Tom Riddle of all 
people get carrried away by someone's else's - especially a Muggle 
else's - delirium of PureBloodedness?

   - CMC 

 





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 03:31:23 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:31:23 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <enu52u+9ti5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <env2ab+ji46@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> I'm hoping someone he is familiar with these books and 
> can tell if they are worth the cover price.
> 
> Tom Sniegoski
> "Sleeper Code"
> "Sleeper Agenda"
> 
> These are in the Young Adult section, and appear to be
> companion pieces.
> 
> 
> John Connally
> "The Book of Lost Things"
> 
> Recently released and found in the General section but is
> about a young boy.
> 
> 
> I'm always looking for good books to read, but my budget is
> so tight I can't afford to buy books and be wrong.
> 
> Any opinions would be appreciated. 

Kemper now:
I have 'the book of lost things' on hold at my local library.
My first suggestion is try your library first.  It's great for people 
on a budget... such as myself.  You once recommended Ender's Shadow, 
so I checked out at my library, read it, and decided to buy my own 
copy.  Used or pre-read, but still mine.

If your library is weak on selection, then try your local B&N or 
Borders.  There are usually seats available.  I often start to read a 
book there or at my local Powell's, if the first chapter seems not 
greatly written... the better off you are in the knowing!

I'm 29th on the list for Lost Things, so let me know if it's worth 
the read and the wait.  I can only have so many items on hold at a 
time.

Kemper




From maria8162001 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 12:40:14 2007
From: maria8162001 at yahoo.com (Maria Vaerewyck)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:40:14 -0000
Subject: She Did (Re: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?)
In-Reply-To: <8C901658F93C499-97C-1718@WEBMAIL-RA19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <eo02fe+70jj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, juli17 at ... wrote:
  
> So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't she?
> And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
>  
> I suppose the most obvious intepretation of no wish would be that
> Snape has joined the ranks of evil characters, thus JKR is no 
longer
> recognizing his birthday, as she doesn't recognize Voldemort's, 
Lucius
> Malfoy's, Bellatrix's, etc. 
> Equally, the obvious interpretation of a happy birthday wish would
> be that Snape is DDM, one of the good guys.

maria8162001:

Well, Jullie, JKR did wishh Snape a "Happy Birthday Severus Snape" 
on her site so according to your interpretation of JKR's birthday 
wishes for her HP characters she just confirmed that Snape is on the 
good side. Oh I wish your interpretation is true because that's what 
I believed about Snape from the beginning of HP even when he is a 
nasty and biased teacher.


 
> So what do I think JKR will do? I don't think she will wish Snape 
a  
> happy birthday, though I believe he's DDM. Because how can JKR
> wish even a DDM!Snape a happy birthday? At this moment (in canon)
> Snape is either on the run or back with Voldemort. He's just 
killed his
> mentor, he is reviled by the WW, being hunted by Aurors, and along
> with trying to keep his own skin perhaps also trying to keep Draco 
> alive and safe--or even trying to turn Draco to the "Good" side. 
Does
> he really have the time or the inclination to celebrate his 
birthday, let
> alone derive any "happiness" from it? (Unless of course Voldemort 
throws 
> birthday parties for his DEs, then Snape might be forced to 
partake of 
> whatever "festivities" Voldemort might force on him...)
>  
> Though JKR could still note his birthday without extending good 
wishes.
> But that's the most I can see her doing, which would conveniently 
still
> leave Snape's alliegance and character (good vs bad) up for grabs. 
>  
> Julie, waiting to see how JKR handles Snape's big day.

maria8162001:

It's official, it's on her site today, she did wish Snape a happy 
birthday, so I guess your intepretation is not correct because if it 
is then she is confirming it and I don't think she want to do that 
as she wants us to speculate a lot about Snapes character that is 
why she' been so vague about him, even with answering the questions 
about Snape. Snape's allegiance is still vague but I would stand by 
with my belief that no matter how nasty and cruel he is I still 
believe he is on the good side. Gosh I might burned when it turns 
out he really a total baddy on the final book. But yeah I'll go to 
what my instinct tells me as most of the time when I read or watch a 
mystery or detective books or movies or series most of the time what 
my instinct tells me are correct. And also I don't think he did kill 
DD. cheers. Happy birthday Snape.





From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 18:06:29 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:06:29 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <enuvo0+pbb0@eGroups.com>
References: <ens6gh+imju@eGroups.com> <enuvo0+pbb0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701091006y3aeab847j5062b20d4dc6ccd0@mail.gmail.com>

lorac44444:



(Jeremiah):

Wasn't it GoF that was held back because of the September 11th
attacks?


(lorac44444):
No - GoF was released in June 2000, more than a year before the 9/11
attacks.



(Jeremiah):
If we're in the 1990's and look 50 years back, it's possible that
Tom Riddle
> had contact with Grindewald (sp?) and thus impressed upon young
Riddle that
> there is no good or evil, only power. A passing of the torch, if
you will.


(lorac44444):
Harry's CoS time-turning took him to 1943 - the young Tom Riddle
could have known Hitler, but it seems unlikely. At any rate, the
Riddle back story as given in HBP shows that Hitler could have only
been a minimal influence at best. Anyway, why would Tom Riddle of all
people get carried away by someone's else's - especially a Muggle
else's - delirium of Pure Bloodedness?



------------------------

CMC

He's only mentioned twice, in chaps. 6 & 13 of Philosopher's Stone -
both times are when Harry reads Dumbledore's Chocolate Frogs card.

There has been much speculation, but we don't know whether
Grindewald had any link with Hitler, or (more importantly, for our
purposes) with Lord Voldemort.



---------------------------------------------------



Jeremiah:



Hitler? Well, that's a well and good to speculate but i was asking if
Voldemort had any ties with Grindewald. The correlation to WW2, IMO, is
secondary. I am of this mindset because there isn't a correlation between
current events (meaning the events in the Muggle World within the books) do
not match up with things from WW2. So having WW2 be a mirror/twin of Harry's
current struggle isn't working for me.



However, I think it is a significant fact that Dumbledore fought and won
against Grindewald even if it is only mentioned 2 times in the series. (Just
as I think it is a significant fact that DD likes 10 pin bowling. I still
think there is a hidden Bowling Alley in the depths of Hogwarts... and, no,
no need for the Room of Requirement to solve this one LOL. yay!) and it
lends credence to his knowledge of how to fight Dark Wizards. He has
successfully done it before. It is possible that we learn DD's secret to
having defeated Grindewald.



My concern is not about Grindewald having me Hitler. I think that's an
entire subplot that would derail the series. I think it is more interesting
to see if Tom Riddle met Grindewald and if Riddle learned anything from
meeting him. (possible conversation topics between Grindewald and Tom
Riddle: "It's not about good and evil? it's about power?"; "Kid, you gotta
have a catchy name that instills fear? I was given the name Marty
Hirschfield. Who would be scared of The Dark Wizard Marty. So I came up with
Grindewald. Now, that's scary?").


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 19:19:01 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:19:01 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <enur5o+d5h7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo0pr5+pusk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Oh, well. Too bad if you ask me ;)
> 
> I can always comfort myself that she wishes Happy birthday to the 
> characters who survive and that Snape will be celebrating his 
> birthdays in Azkaban once the war is ended.
>

Perhaps not, Alla!  ;-)

It seems to me that Jo is thinking in terms of 2007, so Snape might 
have completed his time in Azkaban and is indeed having a Happy 
Birthday this day in 2007!!!! 

As to why Snape is on the list to begin with -- the other three heads 
of house are also on the list so it would look odd for Snape to be 
left off.  On the other hand it could be said that the other three 
were added so we wouldn't automatically think Snape was DDM if we 
assume that everybody else on the list is DDM!  

Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP was 
published.

Snape's Witch





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 20:23:09 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:23:09 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <env2ab+ji46@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo0tjd+4b65@eGroups.com>

--- "kempermentor" <kempermentor at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm hoping someone he is familiar with these books 
> > and can tell if they are worth the cover price.
> > 
> > Tom Sniegoski
> > "Sleeper Code"
> > "Sleeper Agenda"
> > 
> > These are in the Young Adult section, and appear to be
> > companion pieces.
> > 
> > 
> > John Connally
> > "The Book of Lost Things"
> > 
> > Recently released and found in the General section 
> > but is about a young boy.
> > 
> > 
> > I'm always looking for good books to read, but my
> > budget is so tight I can't afford to buy books and
> > be wrong.
> > 
> > Any opinions would be appreciated. 
> 
> Kemper now:
> I have 'the book of lost things' on hold at my local
> library. My first suggestion is try your library first.
> It's great for people on a budget... such as myself.  

bboyminn:

Thanks for the reply and the info. Our local library
has a very limited selection. Though they can get books
via inter-library loan. I have gotten some print and
audio books from them, but it's a question of which
books are even worth reading. 

I read one of the Alex Rider (teen spy) books, and it
was moderately interesting, but I got the sense that
the author was targeting 'young' readers. The plot
and dialog seemed over simplified.

The same with 'Children of the Lamp'; while it was
an interesting read, I got the sense that the author
was struggling to keep the plot and dialog down to
what he/she preceived a 10 year old's reading level
to be.

I recently, finished the Lois Lowry 'Giver' series
['Giver', 'Messenger', 'Gathering Blue'] again a
good read, but also again the sense that the author
was intentionally trying not to strain the reader
brain too much. Also, Lowry likes odd ambiguous endings,
though that is not all bad; it does stimulate the
imagination to fill in 'what happened next'. For
light reading, I do recommend it, just don't expect
to find any real depth to it.

Another light read in the same 'over simplfied' vein
is 'The Boy from the Basement' by Susan Shaw. While
it is over simplified, it is still an touching story
of an abused boy. It held my attention very well, but
not in the sense of 'can't put it down'. 

Again, these books are all light easy reading as well
as relatively short books. Plus I go them dirt cheap
so I'm not complaining, but because of the lack of
depth, they are probably not books that I will read 
over and over. Still, I do recommend them as an
entertaining read.

You would think that authors and publishers would have
learned that 'over simplified' isn't necessary if there
is a good story to be told. JKR CERTAINLY doesn't talk
down to her readers. Her plots are complex, he dialog
(vocabulary) is demanding, and she seems to think
that you should rise to the level of the story, rather
than the story being /brought down/ to the level of the
reader.


> Kemper:
>
> You once recommended Ender's Shadow, so I checked out
> at my library, read it, and decided to buy my own 
> copy.  Used or pre-read, but still mine.
> 

bboyminn:

You realize that there are 9 books in this series. There
are 4 books in the 'Enders Game' saga. Four books in the
'Enders Shadow' saga. And one book 'First Meetings' that
is the back story of how Ender met Jame, and the backstory
of his parents. All very interesting books. With the 
exception of 'First Meetings', all the books are in paper
back and you can get them at Walmart for $5 to $8 depending
on how new the book is. The continuation of the 'Enders
Game' story is available in a paperback Boxed Set for 
about $15 from Amazon.

Without hesitation, I recommend them all. If you go to 
Amazon.com, and read the review for these two series, you
will find that the are uniformly very positive.

Back to the main topic, I was going to order a three boxed
set of Artemis Fowl books for my nephew ($15), and 
discovered  Walmart had "The Book of Lost Things" for $15,
so I ordered them both. The reviews seemed positive enough
and the price was low enough, that it seemed too good
to pass up. Hope I'm not disappointed.

As to the 'Sleeper' series, these books are cheap enough,
so I might buy them later, but I can't help wonder about
the 'over simplified' aspect of them being Young Adult
books. 

Steve/bboyminn




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 22:08:57 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:08:57 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <entrfr+d5de@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo13pp+c9u7@eGroups.com>

Potioncat wrote:
> Oh, I remember nursery school! In our area of the US they were 
> privately run day cares. At least,they were an eon ago when I was that 
> age.
> 
> Dung, I just came across your FILK to Ozymandias (sp) Very good!
> 
> Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. The FILK will be posted 
> tomorrow (in celebration) at the main site.
> Kathy
>

Carol responds:
A FILK to Ozymandias?  A Shelley FILK in celebration of Snape's
birthday? What did I miss? (I know. I know. I should go upthread.) Can
you provide a link to the FILK site?

Carol, who did her dissertation on Shelley (and remembers nursery
school as a term and a concept) and wonders how it all ties in with
celebrating Sevvie




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 22:23:49 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:23:49 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <8C901658F93C499-97C-1718@WEBMAIL-RA19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <eo14ll+flda@eGroups.com>

Julie wrote:  
> So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't she?
> And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
>  
> I suppose the most obvious intepretation of no wish would be that
Snape has joined the ranks of evil characters, thus JKR is no longer
recognizing his birthday, as she doesn't recognize Voldemort's, Lucius
Malfoy's, Bellatrix's, etc. 
>  
> Equally, the obvious interpretation of a happy birthday wish would
> be that Snape is DDM, one of the good guys.
>  
> So what do I think JKR will do? I don't think she will wish Snape a
happy birthday, though I believe he's DDM. Because how can JKR wish
even a DDM!Snape a happy birthday? At this moment (in canon) Snape is
either on the run or back with Voldemort. He's just killed his 
mentor, he is reviled by the WW, being hunted by Aurors, and along
with trying to keep his own skin perhaps also trying to keep Draco
alive and safe--or even trying to turn Draco to the "Good" side. Does
he really have the time or the inclination to celebrate his birthday,
let alone derive any "happiness" from it? <snip>
>  
> Though JKR could still note his birthday without extending good
wishes. But that's the most I can see her doing, which would
conveniently still leave Snape's alliegance and character (good vs
bad) up for grabs. 
>  
> Julie, waiting to see how JKR handles Snape's big day.

Carol:

I was going to tease you for having so little faith, but I'll be nice.
Assuming that JKR has control of the site and it isn't simply
programmed to wish a happy birthday to the people who were on the
original OoP-oriented list (minus the now-dead Dumbledore), she
clearly *is* wishing our Severus a happy birthday. And we know she
doesn't wish a happy birthday to out-and-out baddies like Voldemort
and Bellatrix. 

How do I explain her birthday wishes given the circumstances you
describe? Simple. She's wishing him a happy 48th (yes, I think he was
born in 1959), not a retrospective happy 39th. His 1997 birthday
cannot have been a happy one, but today, as a St. Mungo's researcher
and textbook author (my predictions for his future as recorded in the
Epilogue), he can certainly be happy. He could even be married and
have kids by now. Well, okay, no daughters. ;-)

Carol, ecstatic that JKR wished Sevvie a happy birthday and sure that
it portends good things for DDM!Snape and his fans




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Tue Jan  9 22:27:25 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:27:25 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <eo13pp+c9u7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo14sd+u1b5@eGroups.com>

 
> Carol responds:
> A FILK to Ozymandias?  A Shelley FILK in celebration of Snape's
> birthday? What did I miss? (I know. I know. I should go upthread.) Can
> you provide a link to the FILK site?
> 
> Carol, who did her dissertation on Shelley (and remembers nursery
> school as a term and a concept) and wonders how it all ties in with
> celebrating Sevvie

Hi Carol,
I was just looking for the FILK section when I paused here and saw your 
post. Here is the link to the home page for the FILKs:
http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm

If you click on the Chamber of Secrets section and scroll down, you'll 
find Dung's FILK on Ozymandias. It has nothing to do with Sevvie. It 
just happened to catch my eye. It's like in the library when a book 
about poets of the fouth century jumps out at you while  you're looking 
for a book on dog training....or some such.


My son has now discovered FILKs and joined it with his 
Beatlemania....we're in big trouble. I've been singing "Harry in the 
Sky, Dementors!" for two days. Anyone who likes it, can take it and run 
with it.

I asked for British school terms....oh, that's a pun. Quite good, too. 
Which led to school forms in different countries.....which is how we 
got to this place. Again, nothing to do with Snape.

Cheery O
Kathy





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 22:45:30 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:45:30 -0000
Subject: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <948bbb470701091006y3aeab847j5062b20d4dc6ccd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eo15ua+5hv3@eGroups.com>


Jeremiah wrote:
 
> Hitler? Well, that's a well and good to speculate but i was asking
if Voldemort had any ties with Grindewald. The correlation to WW2,
IMO, is secondary. I am of this mindset because there isn't a
correlation between current events (meaning the events in the Muggle
World within the books) do not match up with things from WW2. So
having WW2 be a mirror/twin of Harry's current struggle isn't working
for me.
 
> However, I think it is a significant fact that Dumbledore fought and
won against Grindewald even if it is only mentioned 2 times in the
series. <snip> It is possible that we learn DD's secret to having
defeated Grindewald. <snip>

Carol responds:
I agree that the defeat of Grindelwald is significant. I think he's
the other wizard known by both DD and Voldemort to have had a Horcrux.
Young Tom (who I think made his first Horcruxes *after* the
conversation with Slughorn, not before) could have encountered him and
learned from him during, say, the summer between his sixth and seventh
years. Dumbledore does mention something about his "consorting with
the worst of our kind," and that surely includes Grindelwald. It's
possible--this is only wild speculation--that Dumbledore destroyed
Grindelwald;s Horcrux and Riddlemort, having learned all he needed to
know about Horcruxes, murdered him. Talk about a significant death to
make a Horcrux with!

As for his being defeated in 1945 (do we know that he died in the same
year?), I'm sure that's important for Tom Riddle's history, but I
think the WWII connection is also deliberate. Not that Grindelwald is
Hitler--he certainly wouldn't champion a "superrace" of blond
Muggles--but I think we're meant to see an analogy between him (or his
successor, Voldemort) and Hitler. At any rate, I'm as intrigued as you
are by Grindelwald and am curious to find out what JKR will say about
him in DH.

BTW, Grindelwald is a city or town in Switzerland. Someone did a post
on the etymology of the name some time back. I think there's a
connection with Grendel, the monster in Beowulf. Sorry I don't have
time to check into it now.

Carol, still happily celebrating Snape's birthday 






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  9 23:09:05 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:09:05 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <eo14sd+u1b5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo17ah+d1mc@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> > A FILK to Ozymandias?  A Shelley FILK in celebration of Snape's
> > birthday? What did I miss? (I know. I know. I should go upthread.)
Can you provide a link to the FILK site?
> > 
> > Carol, who did her dissertation on Shelley (and remembers nursery
> > school as a term and a concept) and wonders how it all ties in
with celebrating Sevvie
> 
> Hi Carol,
> I was just looking for the FILK section when I paused here and saw your 
> post. Here is the link to the home page for the FILKs:
> http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm
> 
> If you click on the Chamber of Secrets section and scroll down, you'll 
> find Dung's FILK on Ozymandias. It has nothing to do with Sevvie. It 
> just happened to catch my eye. It's like in the library when a book 
> about poets of the fouth century jumps out at you while  you're
looking for a book on dog training....or some such.
> 
<snip>
> I asked for British school terms....oh, that's a pun. Quite good,
too. Which led to school forms in different countries.....which is how
we got to this place. Again, nothing to do with Snape.
> 
> Cheery O
> Kathy
>
Carol:

Thanks very much. Loved the FILK, Dung. You obviously know
"Ozymandias"! I used to have it memorized. Now I have to strain my
brain to remember the opening lines, but the whole thing came flooding
back when I read the FILK. Very clever!

Kathy, I assumed that when you said you'd "post it tomorrow in
celebration," that you meant celebration of Snape's birthday, which
corresponded to "tomorrow" in your post. Oh, well. Snape and Shelley
on the same day is okay by me. I'll just make the mental connection on
my own.

Thanks again!

Carol




From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 23:13:44 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:13:44 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: DD's defeat of Grindelwald
In-Reply-To: <eo15ua+5hv3@eGroups.com>
References: <948bbb470701091006y3aeab847j5062b20d4dc6ccd0@mail.gmail.com>
	 <eo15ua+5hv3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701091513l30f056c3m29fc91dc723bcf9@mail.gmail.com>

As for his being defeated in 1945 (do we know that he died in the same
year?), I'm sure that's important for Tom Riddle's history, but I
think the WWII connection is also deliberate. Not that Grindelwald is
Hitler--he certainly wouldn't champion a "superrace" of blond
Muggles--but I think we're meant to see an analogy between him (or his
successor, Voldemort) and Hitler. At any rate, I'm as intrigued as you
are by Grindelwald and am curious to find out what JKR will say about
him in DH.

BTW, Grindelwald is a city or town in Switzerland. Someone did a post
on the etymology of the name some time back. I think there's a
connection with Grendel, the monster in Beowulf. Sorry I don't have
time to check into it now.
==========================

Jeremiah:

No worries. I totally agree that JKR probably derived Grindlewald from
Beowulf's Grendle. As for it being a town in Switzerland... lol. That's
ironic, since Switzerland is supposed to be so neutral (though it usually
isn't, really... they just don't fight).

I'll look for that post on the etymology and see what I cn figure out. I was
mostly trying to state that Grindlewald was not Hitler and that I see no
reason to have Hitler have meetings with Grindlewald... and that sort of
thing. It would be a bit much, IMO, to have those types of correlstions so
blatently thrust on the story. However, I'm sure there isn't a coincidence
that the timeperiond correlates with WW2. It was utter darkenss for Europe.

Any hoo!
TTYL, Carol! Enjoy your Snape-Day Celebrations!


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From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Tue Jan  9 23:57:37 2007
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:57:37 -0000
Subject: Need job interview advice. Please.
Message-ID: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon: 
I am posting this way off topic question here because I have found many 
great calculating minds on this website and I would really value any 
insight any of you may have to offer.

A few years ago I was employed in a job I loved, but working for an 
employer who lost 90% of her original employees within the first year 
of business because she used her employees as scapegoats for her 
mistakes.
My first year earned me a merit raise and recognition, however soon 
afterwards her mistakes revolved around my work and I became her next 
victim. Not wanting to have my reputation tarnished I quit, and went 
back to my previous career. For quite a while now I have found myself 
really missing the job I did with her company and have decided to look 
for a similar job elsewhere.  My dilemma is in what do I say to 
prospective employers when asked why I left. If I am truthful and say I 
left due to conflict with my employer a red flag is instantly raised. 
Does anyone have any advice on how to creatively, but truthfully get 
through this question.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 00:15:29 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:15:29 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo0pr5+pusk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo1b71+mkn1@eGroups.com>


> > Alla:
> > 
> > Oh, well. Too bad if you ask me ;)
> > 
> > I can always comfort myself that she wishes Happy birthday to 
the 
> > characters who survive and that Snape will be celebrating his 
> > birthdays in Azkaban once the war is ended.
> >

Snape's Witch: 
> Perhaps not, Alla!  ;-)
> 
> It seems to me that Jo is thinking in terms of 2007, so Snape 
might 
> have completed his time in Azkaban and is indeed having a Happy 
> Birthday this day in 2007!!!! 

Alla:

Oh, I agree that she is thinking in terms of 2007, absolutely ;)

I was just hoping that his time in Azkaban would be, you know - 
forever and ever. Dementors to me is metaphor of such horrible 
imaginery, that I would not wish it even on Snape, but I am 
certainly not adverse to Snape having normal nightmares every night 
of his stay in Azkaban, say seeing Lily and James and of course very 
dead Dumbledore. Yep, very suitable to me. 


> As to why Snape is on the list to begin with -- the other three 
heads 
> of house are also on the list so it would look odd for Snape to be 
> left off.  On the other hand it could be said that the other three 
> were added so we wouldn't automatically think Snape was DDM if we 
> assume that everybody else on the list is DDM!  
> 
> Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP was 
> published.
> 
> Snape's Witch
>

Alla:

Totally, it can be a possibility about three heads of the houses as 
you are saying, but actually I was quite serious when I was 
speculating that the characters that are going to survive are on the
list ( obviously I was not the one who thought about it, but I like 
it).

I mean, yes, she does not seem to wish Happy Birthday to Bella, 
Lucius, etc - so the possibility is there that she wishes Happy 
Birthday to good characters and at some point I thought that way 
too, but to me it is also plausible that Bella, Lucius, etc would 
also end up dead at the end, so not only they are bad, they are also 
dead in 2007, if it makes sense.

Oh, and Draco to me makes perfect sense, if she was thinking of the 
future, I cannot stand him, but after HBP he can certainly take 
redemptive route IMO.




From icedragn at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  9 22:13:12 2007
From: icedragn at hotmail.com (icedragn571)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:13:12 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <8C901658F93C499-97C-1718@WEBMAIL-RA19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <eo141o+quer@eGroups.com>

well i just checked the site and yes she did wish him a happy birthday 

Jax


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, juli17 at ... wrote:
>
>  
>  
>  
> So, will JKR wish Snape a "happy birthday" this year, or won't she?
> And what will it mean if she does or doesn't do so?
>  
> I suppose the most obvious intepretation of no wish would be that
> Snape has joined the ranks of evil characters, thus JKR is no longer
> recognizing his birthday, as she doesn't recognize Voldemort's, Lucius
> Malfoy's, Bellatrix's, etc. 
>  
> Equally, the obvious interpretation of a happy birthday wish would
> be that Snape is DDM, one of the good guys.
>  
> So what do I think JKR will do? I don't think she will wish Snape a  
> happy birthday, though I believe he's DDM. Because how can JKR
> wish even a DDM!Snape a happy birthday? At this moment (in canon)
> Snape is either on the run or back with Voldemort. He's just killed his
> mentor, he is reviled by the WW, being hunted by Aurors, and along
> with trying to keep his own skin perhaps also trying to keep Draco 
> alive and safe--or even trying to turn Draco to the "Good" side. Does
> he really have the time or the inclination to celebrate his
birthday, let
> alone derive any "happiness" from it? (Unless of course Voldemort
throws 
> birthday parties for his DEs, then Snape might be forced to partake of 
> whatever "festivities" Voldemort might force on him...)
>  
> Though JKR could still note his birthday without extending good wishes.
> But that's the most I can see her doing, which would conveniently still
> leave Snape's alliegance and character (good vs bad) up for grabs. 
>  
> Julie, waiting to see how JKR handles Snape's big day.
> ________________________________________________________________________
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From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net  Wed Jan 10 01:04:11 2007
From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 19:04:11 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need job interview advice. Please.
References: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003201c73453$3d67ef20$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75>

Luckdragon: 
I am posting this way off topic question here because I have found many 
great calculating minds on this website and I would really value any 
insight any of you may have to offer.

A few years ago I was employed in a job I loved, but working for an 
employer who lost 90% of her original employees within the first year 
of business because she used her employees as scapegoats for her 
mistakes.
My first year earned me a merit raise and recognition, however soon 
afterwards her mistakes revolved around my work and I became her next 
victim. Not wanting to have my reputation tarnished I quit, and went 
back to my previous career. For quite a while now I have found myself 
really missing the job I did with her company and have decided to look 
for a similar job elsewhere. My dilemma is in what do I say to 
prospective employers when asked why I left. If I am truthful and say I 
left due to conflict with my employer a red flag is instantly raised. 
Does anyone have any advice on how to creatively, but truthfully get 
through this question.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

**********************************************************************************

Chancie:

I understand your problem! I had to quit a job because my boyfriend
(who is now my husband)'s grandmother passed away, and instead of
my boss letting me leave an hour early so that I could drive 4 hours
and be there the night before, she let her night closer leave and told
me that she needed me to stay and close in his place.  That would
have meant that I would have had to stay until around 2am, and I 
was scheduled to leave at 10.  I went on a 3 min break to think, 
came back put my uniform shirt in the office, and just left.

After I returned home, and began my search for a new job, I would 
write my reason for leaving as "scheuling issues", and when I was
questioned I would tell them what happened being sure not too seem
too egar to give the details, because I didn't want the interviewer to 
think that I enjoyed gossiping, or that I had a disrespectful attitude.

I don't know what your feild of work was/is, but in my experience
most people have had to deal with jerks who get themselves in a 
place of some type of power, and go crazy with it.  But I don't 
think I would use the word "conflict" it makes it sound more 
serious.  I would probably use "difference of opinion".  Or maybe
you could just say that you found yourself in an uncomfortable
cercomstance, and you thought that best way to resolve it would
be to remove yourself from the situation. 

Could you possibly give your future employer references from 
people who worked with you at the job you quit? That way you
could just let them tell how much of a nightmare your boss was
to work for, then you wouldn't have to.

Don't know if I was any help at all, but I do wish you luck
in finding a job you enjoy!

Chancie


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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 03:15:43 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:15:43 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo1b71+mkn1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo1lov+isfh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
> Alla:
> I mean, yes, she does not seem to wish Happy Birthday to Bella, 
> Lucius, etc - so the possibility is there that she wishes Happy 
> Birthday to good characters and at some point I thought that way 
> too, but to me it is also plausible that Bella, Lucius, etc would 
> also end up dead at the end, so not only they are bad, they are also 
> dead in 2007, if it makes sense.
> 
> Oh, and Draco to me makes perfect sense, if she was thinking of the 
> future, I cannot stand him, but after HBP he can certainly take 
> redemptive route IMO.

Tonks:
And she never wished Happy Birthday to DD. Maybe because she doesn't 
want us to know when it is, OR my theory that because of who is really 
is, he doesn't have one.

As to Snape. If he survives, which the birthday list theory suggest, 
but we really don't know for sure, but if he is still around... I will 
bet that he never serves any time in Askaban. I think the dememtors 
will die with LV for one thing. And the other is that Snape will be 
seen as the hero that he is.

Tonks_op

PS. the real reason I came here... any news on any more Wombat test 
yet?? 
>





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Wed Jan 10 03:42:31 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:42:31 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo0pr5+pusk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo1nb7+fse7@eGroups.com>

Snape's Witch 
> 
> Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP was 
> published.


Potioncat:
Did she? I thought, but someone would need to confirm it, that over the 
course of one year, JKR wished Happy Birthday to selected characters. 
When the next year came around, the same set were there---no new names 
and no missing ones.

She's wished both Draco and Snape happy birthday after HBP came out. 
This was Snape's second greeting after HBP.






From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Wed Jan 10 04:10:17 2007
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:10:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
References: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0701092010i5736858epdc92ceebe4c9ede1@mail.gmail.com>

Luckdragon:
> My dilemma is in what do I say to
> prospective employers when asked why I left. If I am truthful and say I
> left due to conflict with my employer a red flag is instantly raised.
> Does anyone have any advice on how to creatively, but truthfully get
> through this question.

Sometimes people just aren't a good fit for the companies they're at;
half the time, it's neither the company nor individual's fault.  This
is a common HR issue, and assuming that, like many companies, the HR
department does the interviewing, they'll be understanding if you just
say that - you loved the job, but you and the company just weren't a
good fit.  If you're pushed to explain, be diplomatic and succinct,
say something to the effect that you felt like it was time to move on.

The simple truth is that, no matter what you say, they've already got
questions in their minds.  And really, by the time they get around to
asking you about your past jobs, they've probably already decided
whether or not to hire you - unless that's the first question they
ask, which would indeed be unusual.  The interview is important to
gauge how well you and the company might fit together, so just be your
charming best.

Best of luck!  I think I'm about to start hitting the trade journals
again, so I empathize (especially since my current job puts me in your
exact position).

~Ali



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jan 10 04:31:09 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:31:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001001c73470$27420c90$67a4a8c0@rosie>

Personally, I do prefer the honest approach.  Perhaps stating that there was
a conflict of interest might work.  You're telling the truth; you wanted to
do the work properly, your employer blamed her goofs on you which means she
was not interested in doing hhis/her work properly.  So, a conflict of
interest might work.

If further questioned about it, I would say that there were internal
problems which are too complicated to get into.  Hope that helps some.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Wed Jan 10 04:53:38 2007
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:53:38 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <001001c73470$27420c90$67a4a8c0@rosie>
Message-ID: <E1H4VT4-0006Xr-69@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Lee said:
Personally, I do prefer the honest approach.  Perhaps stating that there was
a conflict of interest might work.  You're telling the truth; you wanted to
do the work properly, your employer blamed her goofs on you which means she
was not interested in doing hhis/her work properly.  So, a conflict of
interest might work.

If further questioned about it, I would say that there were internal
problems which are too complicated to get into.  Hope that helps some.



Sherry:
in a previous job, I used to teach interviewing techniques to blind adults
who were learning skills for employment.  So, I studied all the current
trends in job hunting and what employers were looking for.  It's best to be
honest, without going too much into details.  it's ok to say there were
internal conflicts or something like that.  But it has to be said in such a
way as to not come off as sounding too critical of your former employer or
supervisor.  I would not say, my supervisor blamed everyone else for her
mistakes ... but I might say there were difficulties in the workplace that
made it uncomfortable for me to work there, or that there was internal
conflict that made it an uncomfortable place to work.  You're saying the
essential truth without going into details.  If that makes sense.

sherry




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 05:46:05 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:46:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20070110054605.16984.qmail@web90402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Luckdragon: 
> I am posting this way off topic question here because I have found many 
> great calculating minds on this website and I would really value any 
> insight any of you may have to offer.
> 
> A few years ago I was employed in a job I loved, but working for an 
> employer who lost 90% of her original employees within the first year 
> of business because she used her employees as scapegoats for her 
> mistakes.
> My first year earned me a merit raise and recognition, however soon 
> afterwards her mistakes revolved around my work and I became her next 
> victim. Not wanting to have my reputation tarnished I quit, and went 
> back to my previous career. For quite a while now I have found myself 
> really missing the job I did with her company and have decided to look 
> for a similar job elsewhere.  My dilemma is in what do I say to 
> prospective employers when asked why I left. If I am truthful and say I 
> left due to conflict with my employer a red flag is instantly raised. 
> Does anyone have any advice on how to creatively, but truthfully get 
> through this question.
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>

Kemper now:
  Others have mentioned stating internal conflict and feeling uncomfortable while maintaining as nuetral a stance on mangagement as possible.
   
  I would also encourage you to research the organizations you are interested in.  Be familiar with their Mission Statement.  Mention how your work style/ethic seems to gel with the philosphy of the company.  If the Mission Statement is weak, find something else that's great about the company.  Be authentic.  While organizations, like individuals, enjoy hearing how awesome they are, they recognize when sunshine is being blown.

  Good luck!
   
  Kemper
   

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From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 10 14:18:54 2007
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:18:54 -0000
Subject: Lupin, a word!
In-Reply-To: <eo17ah+d1mc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo2ske+bbi4@eGroups.com>

Thanks for the nice comments - I'd almost forgotten that I'd written 
some FILKs. Seems like ages ago...

Dung

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol earlier:
> > > A FILK to Ozymandias?  A Shelley FILK in celebration of Snape's
> > > birthday? What did I miss? (I know. I know. I should go 
upthread.)
> Can you provide a link to the FILK site?
> > > 
> > > Carol, who did her dissertation on Shelley (and remembers 
nursery
> > > school as a term and a concept) and wonders how it all ties in
> with celebrating Sevvie
> > 
> > Hi Carol,
> > I was just looking for the FILK section when I paused here and 
saw your 
> > post. Here is the link to the home page for the FILKs:
> > http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm
> > 
> > If you click on the Chamber of Secrets section and scroll down, 
you'll 
> > find Dung's FILK on Ozymandias. It has nothing to do with 
Sevvie. It 
> > just happened to catch my eye. It's like in the library when a 
book 
> > about poets of the fouth century jumps out at you while  you're
> looking for a book on dog training....or some such.
> > 
> <snip>
> > I asked for British school terms....oh, that's a pun. Quite good,
> too. Which led to school forms in different countries.....which is 
how
> we got to this place. Again, nothing to do with Snape.
> > 
> > Cheery O
> > Kathy
> >
> Carol:
> 
> Thanks very much. Loved the FILK, Dung. You obviously know
> "Ozymandias"! I used to have it memorized. Now I have to strain my
> brain to remember the opening lines, but the whole thing came 
flooding
> back when I read the FILK. Very clever!
> 
> Kathy, I assumed that when you said you'd "post it tomorrow in
> celebration," that you meant celebration of Snape's birthday, which
> corresponded to "tomorrow" in your post. Oh, well. Snape and 
Shelley
> on the same day is okay by me. I'll just make the mental 
connection on
> my own.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Carol
>





From jerisueva at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 16:27:39 2007
From: jerisueva at yahoo.com (lily.phoenixfire)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:27:39 -0000
Subject: Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo345r+8guu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Luckdragon"
<luckdragon64 at ...> wrote:
>
> Luckdragon: 
> I am posting this way off topic question here because I have found many 
> great calculating minds on this website and I would really value any 
> insight any of you may have to offer.
> 
> A few years ago I was employed in a job I loved, but working for an 
> employer who lost 90% of her original employees within the first year 
> of business because she used her employees as scapegoats for her 
> mistakes.
> My first year earned me a merit raise and recognition, however soon 
> afterwards her mistakes revolved around my work and I became her next 
> victim. Not wanting to have my reputation tarnished I quit, and went 
> back to my previous career. For quite a while now I have found myself 
> really missing the job I did with her company and have decided to look 
> for a similar job elsewhere.  My dilemma is in what do I say to 
> prospective employers when asked why I left. If I am truthful and say I 
> left due to conflict with my employer a red flag is instantly raised. 
> Does anyone have any advice on how to creatively, but truthfully get 
> through this question.
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>

Lily:

I've never posted before but I lurk all the time. I enjoy everyone's
posts.  I'm a Human Resources Director and I also do some career
counseling. You need to be very careful. Each HR person is different
and we all prefer different things in general. Try to avoid words like
  conflict. All the suggestions about not speaking ill of your past
employer are spot on. Never talk negatively about a former employer or
supervisor. You can mention that the opportunity seemed right to move
on to a different place or the situation was such that you chose to
move on at that time. I know that those all sound so vague but try as
we might to be open and understanding of past situations: when HR
people hear certain keywords, we immediately get nervous.  It's an
instinctive reaction. I'm sure there are other HR people here who have
other and opposite opinions and they should be listened to. This is
just something I have experienced and learned over the years in HR. In
the end, when you're in the interview; you'll have to rely on your gut
instinct. Hope this helps!






From tcorea13 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 10 15:26:45 2007
From: tcorea13 at sbcglobal.net (Tina)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:26:45 -0000
Subject: Need job interview advice. Please.
In-Reply-To: <E1H4VT4-0006Xr-69@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <eo30jl+f29u@eGroups.com>

> Lee said:
> Personally, I do prefer the honest approach.  Perhaps stating
> that there was a conflict of interest might work.  You're
> telling the truth; you wanted to do the work properly, your
> employer blamed her goofs on you which means she was not
> interested in doing hhis/her work properly.  So, a conflict
> of interest might work.
>
> If further questioned about it, I would say that there were
> internal problems which are too complicated to get into.
> Hope that helps some.


I'm currently a recruiter for my current company, and I do
interviewing all week long...you could very truthfully say that you
were concened about the stability of the company, ie: most of your
co-workers being let go. Saying that there were conflicts that you
don't want to get into is a HUGE red flag. Potential employers don't
want to think that you are hiding something. You should be truthful
about the situation, but remain professional--Never bad-mouth a
previous boss in an interview. It's far more important to speak to
why you really loved the work that you did there--be enthusiastic.
Show that you were really passionate about your work. You might have
left for stability/personnel reasons, but you miss the work, and
want to get back into that field--then let the interviewer know what
you will bring to their company, why YOU are the one they should
hire. Best of luck to you!!

~divaTina



From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 18:01:05 2007
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:01:05 -0000
Subject: WOMBAT/HP news
In-Reply-To: <eo1lov+isfh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo39l1+2cdl@eGroups.com>

 
> Tonks_op
> 
> PS. the real reason I came here... any news on any more Wombat test 
> yet?? 
> >
>

The best place I know of to get HP news quickly is HPANA:

http://www.hpana.com/

They not only post their own articles, but also links to HP news items 
elsewhere.

Nothing new on JKR's site since Snape's birthday, sorry to say. ;)

Annemehr





From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 10 18:17:07 2007
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:17:07 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo1nb7+fse7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo3aj3+m0eq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Snape's Witch 
> > 
> > Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP was 
> > published.
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
> Did she? I thought, but someone would need to confirm it, that over 
the 
> course of one year, JKR wished Happy Birthday to selected 
characters. 
> When the next year came around, the same set were there---no new 
names 
> and no missing ones.
> 
> She's wished both Draco and Snape happy birthday after HBP came 
out. 
> This was Snape's second greeting after HBP.
>

I know just where to look--

There's a great section of the Lexicon with everything that is or 
ever was on JKR's site (*waves to Belinda* Hi, dear!!!):

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/sources/jkr.com/jkr-com.html

This includes info for all the past door openings, too.

Anyway, the birthdays:
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/sources/jkr.com/jkr-com-birthdays.html

Potioncat is right, they've just repeated the same every year since 
they started (with Neville in July '04).  However, Draco's birthday 
*did* first appear just before HBP was published, because it happened 
to be just short of a year since she began putting the birthdays up 
at all.

Annemehr
link maven today, apparently





From luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca  Wed Jan 10 22:34:30 2007
From: luckdragon64 at yahoo.ca (Luckdragon)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:34:30 -0000
Subject: interview advice. Thank you all!
In-Reply-To: <eo1a5h+j6qp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo3plm+6n79@eGroups.com>

Luckdragon:
Just wanted to thank all who replied to my question. Everyone was very 
helpful and I received some great advice and ideas to work with. I knew 
I would get the advice I needed on this site. Thanks again for your 
time and your insight.
Best wishes!
Brenda




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 02:24:58 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:24:58 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter reference on House yesterday
Message-ID: <eo475q+u33j@eGroups.com>

Did anybody catch yesterday House calling his rehab supervisor 
Voldemort?

I thought it was hilarious.

Alla, who loves Dr. House. :)




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jan 11 03:51:54 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:51:54 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter reference on House yesterday
In-Reply-To: <eo475q+u33j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo4c8q+qpoh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> Did anybody catch yesterday House calling his rehab supervisor 
> Voldemort?
> 
> I thought it was hilarious.
> 
> Alla, who loves Dr. House. :)

Potioncat:
You can't love Dr. House! He's Snape without an accent!


Actually I've only seen it once. Enjoyed it. But just like abuse is a 
hot button for you, drug abuse/medicine abuse is a hot button for me. 

What I think is neat, is that the actor has also been the grumpy 
husband in Sense and Sensibility (with a ton of future HP actors) and 
the father in Stewart Little and a very minor part in The Borowers 
(with a different ton of HP actors. An adorable, little Tom Felton 
among them.)





From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 04:11:25 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:11:25 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter reference on House yesterday
In-Reply-To: <eo4c8q+qpoh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo4ddd+hsgp@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
> <dumbledore11214@> wrote:
> >
> > Did anybody catch yesterday House calling his rehab supervisor 
> > Voldemort?
> > 
> > I thought it was hilarious.
> > 
> > Alla, who loves Dr. House. :)
> 
> Potioncat:
> You can't love Dr. House! He's Snape without an accent!
> 
> 
> Actually I've only seen it once. Enjoyed it. But just like abuse 
is a 
> hot button for you, drug abuse/medicine abuse is a hot button for 
me. 
> 
> What I think is neat, is that the actor has also been the grumpy 
> husband in Sense and Sensibility (with a ton of future HP actors) 
and 
> the father in Stewart Little and a very minor part in The Borowers 
> (with a different ton of HP actors. An adorable, little Tom Felton 
> among them.)
>


Alla:

Yep, he IS Snape all right, although as everybody who watches knows 
that there are nice neat references to him as Sherlok Holmes, etc.

House is another good example of how Snape type characters I SO love 
and Snape itself soooo not, hehe.

I actually started out hating House as well, but then I so felt for 
him - I find him amazing and he has a good excuse for his 
snarkiness, as far as I am concerned, hehe.




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 06:05:45 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:05:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <eo0tjd+4b65@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <823892.98449.qm@web90411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



> > Kemper earlier:
> > I have 'the book of lost things' on hold at my local
> > library. My first suggestion is try your library first.
> > It's great for people on a budget... such as myself.  
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Thanks for the reply and the info. Our local library
> has a very limited selection. Though they can get books
> via inter-library loan. I have gotten some print and
> audio books from them, but it's a question of which
> books are even worth reading. 
> 
> ...--edit possibly entertaining if light reads--...
> 
> I ... finished the Lois Lowry 'Giver' series
> ['Giver', 'Messenger', 'Gathering Blue'] again a
> good read, but also again the sense that the author
> was intentionally trying not to strain the reader
> brain too much. ... For
> light reading, I do recommend it, just don't expect
> to find any real depth to it.
> 
> ... --other light suggestions--...
   
  Kemper now:
I have to disagree on the Lowery suggestions.  I thought they were moving regardless of their reading level.  But I get what you are saying about light reads.
   
  There's this series called Septimus Heap that I tried to get into, but... I hate being directed as I read.  Misdirect me.  Make me go, 'OMG, I didn't see that coming... that was effing awesome!' Don't give me a mystery on page 13, have me solve it on page 49, and have 251 more pages to read to get to the denouement.
   
  People have recommended Nix, but I can't get into him either.  
   
  What I want more of are writers with the callibur of JKR, Stroud and Pullman.  
  Their stories are engaging, sly, humorous, complex.
  
> > Kemper earlier:
> >
> > You once recommended Ender's Shadow, so I checked out
> > at my library, read it, and decided to buy my own 
> > copy.  Used or pre-read, but still mine.
> > 
> 
> bboyminn replied:
> 
> You realize that there are 9 books in this series. There
> are 4 books in the 'Enders Game' saga. Four books in the
> 'Enders Shadow' saga. And one book 'First Meetings' that
> is the back story of how Ender met Jame, and the backstory
> of his parents. All very interesting books. With the 
> exception of 'First Meetings', ... I recommend them all.

  Kemper now:
  I know.  But I liked how Ender's Shadow ended.  It was hopeful. I want to imagine a Bean who lived happily ever after with his new found family.  I know; it's lame of me.
   
  > Steve concluded:
> ... I can't help wonder about
> the 'over simplified' aspect of them being Young Adult
> books. 

  Kemper now:
  I agree.  The simplified books should be relabeled Older Child, but that would give children a bad rep.  What about Highlights Adult?  Or... what was the 'bad reader' color in the SRA reading card? How 'bout: the SRA DumbDumb Color Reader?
   
  Kemper, who hated the SRA's


 
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From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Thu Jan 11 12:55:02 2007
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:55:02 +0200
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo1b71+mkn1@eGroups.com>
References: <eo0pr5+pusk@eGroups.com> <eo1b71+mkn1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <45A64FC6020000780000203F@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>

Just one question please.

Where can you find the birthday list?

Cairie

>>> "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com> 2007-01-10 02:15 >>>

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Oh, well. Too bad if you ask me ;)
> > 
> > I can always comfort myself that she wishes Happy birthday to 
the 
> > characters who survive and that Snape will be celebrating his 
> > birthdays in Azkaban once the war is ended.
> >

Snape's Witch: 
> Perhaps not, Alla!  ;-)
> 
> It seems to me that Jo is thinking in terms of 2007, so Snape 
might 
> have completed his time in Azkaban and is indeed having a Happy 
> Birthday this day in 2007!!!! 

Alla:

Oh, I agree that she is thinking in terms of 2007, absolutely ;)

I was just hoping that his time in Azkaban would be, you know - 
forever and ever. Dementors to me is metaphor of such horrible 
imaginery, that I would not wish it even on Snape, but I am 
certainly not adverse to Snape having normal nightmares every night 
of his stay in Azkaban, say seeing Lily and James and of course very 
dead Dumbledore. Yep, very suitable to me. 


> As to why Snape is on the list to begin with -- the other three 
heads 
> of house are also on the list so it would look odd for Snape to be 
> left off.  On the other hand it could be said that the other three 
> were added so we wouldn't automatically think Snape was DDM if we 
> assume that everybody else on the list is DDM!  
> 
> Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP was 
> published.
> 
> Snape's Witch
>

Alla:

Totally, it can be a possibility about three heads of the houses as 
you are saying, but actually I was quite serious when I was 
speculating that the characters that are going to survive are on the
list ( obviously I was not the one who thought about it, but I like 
it).

I mean, yes, she does not seem to wish Happy Birthday to Bella, 
Lucius, etc - so the possibility is there that she wishes Happy 
Birthday to good characters and at some point I thought that way 
too, but to me it is also plausible that Bella, Lucius, etc would 
also end up dead at the end, so not only they are bad, they are also 
dead in 2007, if it makes sense.

Oh, and Draco to me makes perfect sense, if she was thinking of the 
future, I cannot stand him, but after HBP he can certainly take 
redemptive route IMO.





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jan 11 17:38:09 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:38:09 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <45A64FC6020000780000203F@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>
Message-ID: <eo5sm1+5ptt@eGroups.com>

 "Cairie Witter" wrote:
>
> Just one question please.
> 
> Where can you find the birthday list?


Potioncat:
Here's a link to the Lexicon's list of birthdays which were announced 
on JKR's site:


http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/sources/jkr.com/jkr-com-birthdays.html



There is also a whole section of time lines at the Lexicon.




From RSComics at aol.com  Thu Jan 11 16:19:38 2007
From: RSComics at aol.com (RSComics at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:19:38 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
Message-ID: <bd9.cfaac7e.32d7bd9a@aol.com>

 


Hi my name is Brigit and I am new these past few days. Have you tried  
Inkheart by Cornelia Funke. Brigit
In a message dated 1/10/2007 10:08:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
kempermentor at yahoo.com writes:

People  have recommended Nix, but I can't get into him either.  

What I want more of are writers with the callibur of JKR, Stroud  and 
Pullman.  
Their stories are engaging, sly, humorous,  complex.







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From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 19:22:58 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:22:58 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <bd9.cfaac7e.32d7bd9a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <eo62qi+ql4g@eGroups.com>

> kempermentor at ... writes:
> 
> People  have recommended Nix, but I can't get into him either.  
> 
> What I want more of are writers with the callibur of JKR, Stroud  and 
> Pullman.  
> Their stories are engaging, sly, humorous,  complex.


Alla:

Hey Kemper. There are two series I recently read and fell in love with.

Both were actually recommended to me by list members here.

First one is the books by Naomi Nowik, starting with "her majesty 
dragon" and two others - sort of AU history of Napoleonic wars, AU 
being that dragons are part of all societies and part of the armies.

It is very well placed in historic context, fast paced, 
entertaining,etc and the main dragon and his captain are absolutely 
amazing characters.

Here is the link at Wiki, but beware of spoilers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 19:34:51 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:34:51 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <eo62qi+ql4g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo63gr+a83g@eGroups.com>

> > kempermentor@ writes:
> > 
> > People  have recommended Nix, but I can't get into him either.  
> > 
> > What I want more of are writers with the callibur of JKR, Stroud  
and 
> > Pullman.  
> > Their stories are engaging, sly, humorous,  complex.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Hey Kemper. There are two series I recently read and fell in love 
with.
> 
> Both were actually recommended to me by list members here.
> 
> First one is the books by Naomi Nowik, starting with "her majesty 
> dragon" and two others - sort of AU history of Napoleonic wars, AU 
> being that dragons are part of all societies and part of the armies.
> 
> It is very well placed in historic context, fast paced, 
> entertaining,etc and the main dragon and his captain are absolutely 
> amazing characters.
> 
> Here is the link at Wiki, but beware of spoilers:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)
>


Alla:

Uh, DUH.

The second one is Coldfire trilogy by C. Friedman.

They are dark, but brilliant otherwise IMO :)




From arandall1983 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 19:43:57 2007
From: arandall1983 at yahoo.com (angela randall)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:43:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <20070111194357.56860.qmail@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
editions. What about all of you? 
 
Angela Randall
MSN: arandall1983 at hotmail.com
Yahoo: arandall1983 at yahoo.com






From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:31:59 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:31:59 -0000
Subject: Request Literary Evaluation of a couple of Books.
In-Reply-To: <823892.98449.qm@web90411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <eo66rv+omlq@eGroups.com>

---  kemper mentor <kempermentor at ...> wrote:
> > 
> > bboyminn:
> > 
> >...
> > 
> > ...--edit possibly entertaining if light reads--...
> > 
> > I ... finished the Lois Lowry 'Giver' series
> > ['Giver', 'Messenger', 'Gathering Blue'] again a
> > good read, but also again the sense that the author
> > was intentionally trying not to strain the reader
> > brain too much. ... For light reading, I do recommend
> > it, just don't expect to find any real depth to it.
> > 
> > ... --other light suggestions--...
>    
>   Kemper now:
> I have to disagree on the Lowery suggestions. I thought
> they were moving regardless of their reading level. But
> I get what you are saying about light reads.
>   

bboyminn:

Don't get me wrong, I DO Recommend the Lowery's 'Giver' 
series. They have engaging characters and touching 
themes, but overal, I classify them as 'light' reading.

But that is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't regret
buying or reading these books. In a sense, I look at it
as Entertainment Value per dollar spent. These books in
paperback have a US$6.50 cover price (not discount price).
I can't imagine any other means in which you will get 
more value for your $6.50 (or less). For that you can
attend a movie matinee with no popcorn or soft drink,
you can rent a video from the video story, and in either
case you will have about 2 hours entertainment. Read 
the Lowery books and you will have many hours of 
engrossing entertainment, and you will spend them with
appealing engaging characters. Just don't expect an
deep complex story. A touching story, an interesting
story, just not very deep. 
 
> >...
> > > 
> > 
> > bboyminn replied:
> > 
> > You realize that there are 9 books in this series. 
> > There are 4 books in the 'Enders Game' saga. Four 
> > books in the 'Enders Shadow' saga.  ... I recommend
> > them all.
> 
> Kemper now:
> I know.  But I liked how Ender's Shadow ended.  It was
> hopeful. I want to imagine a Bean who lived happily 
> ever after with his new found family.  I know; it's 
> lame of me.
> 

bboyminn:

I can't say the the continuation of the Bean/Shadow
Series is not dark. But Bean's true happiness does
not come from his own family (brother, father, mother)
but from a family of his own. Bean meet and falls in
love with a woman that is his equal. I feel safe in
telling you that because it begins to appear fairly
early in the story. 

You know of Bean's 'affliction', and that plus world
trumoil and characters from Beans past are the heart of
the darkness of the story, but as mentioned above, the 
story does bring some meaning and satisfaction to Bean's
life. I won't tell you more but to say the continuation 
is a very touching and extremely intriguing story. 

For the record, two more books are planned in the
Series. One is a sort of Bean meets Ender in the future
and the other is Ender meet a nemesis that is developed
in the Bean series. Again, since you haven't read both
series, I'll spare you the details.

Both Series while having very intriguing plots, I would
classify as 'character driven' books. I care about these
characters, and therefore I care about what happens to 
them. Though what does happen to them is also immensely
interesting.

I gave my nephew (age 11) 'Enders Game' and 'Enders 
Shadow' for Christmas, I really hope he reads them. I 
can't imagine how he could not. As extra incentive, I
said I would give him a reward if he read to the end
of Chapt 3. I figured that would be enough to get him
hooked on the story. Then at the end of each Chapt 3
I put $5.00. I'm sure he will appreciate it.

   

>   Kemper now:
>   I agree.  The simplified books should be relabeled 
> Older Child, but that would give children a bad rep.  
> What about Highlights Adult?  Or... what was the 'bad 
> reader' color in the SRA reading card? How 'bout: the 
> SRA DumbDumb Color Reader?
>    
>   Kemper, who hated the SRA's

bboyminn:

Sorry...? SRA? Not familiar with that term.

Steve/bboyminn




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Thu Jan 11 20:39:30 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:39:30 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <20070111194357.56860.qmail@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <eo67a2+ck0o@eGroups.com>

 angela:
> Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
> posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
> editions. What about all of you? 
Potioncat:
Hi Angela and welcomed.
A better question for this group might be, How many copies of each book 
do you have, and in how many different versions?

Potioncat (for the record, one each, the last two in hardback the 
moment they came out) Oh, and 2 of SS/PS because one vanished---was 
later found wedged in a cabinet, muttering incoherantly.





From maritajan at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:52:00 2007
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:52:00 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <eo67a2+ck0o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo681g+knet@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> 
wrote:
>
>  angela:
> > Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
> > posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
> > editions. What about all of you? 
> Potioncat:
> Hi Angela and welcomed.
> A better question for this group might be, How many copies of each 
book 
> do you have, and in how many different versions?
> 
> Potioncat (for the record, one each, the last two in hardback the 
> moment they came out) Oh, and 2 of SS/PS because one vanished---was 
> later found wedged in a cabinet, muttering incoherantly.
>


I ****KNEW**** I wasn't the only person who bought multiple copies!  

I have a set in paperback at my desk.  I write in those, taking 
notes, highlighting, etc.

I have a hardback set at home.  Those don't get written in, except 
for one hardback copy of HBP, because it took so long to get the 
paperback version.  Then, I had to buy a new, unwritten-in hardback.  



MJ - glad to have confirmation she's not the only one with multiple 
sets.




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:55:04 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:55:04 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <eo681g+knet@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo6878+o424@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MJ" <maritajan at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom@> 
> wrote:
> >
> >  angela:
> > > Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
> > > posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
> > > editions. What about all of you? 
> > Potioncat:
> > Hi Angela and welcomed.
> > A better question for this group might be, How many copies of 
each 
> book 
> > do you have, and in how many different versions?
> > 
> > Potioncat (for the record, one each, the last two in hardback the 
> > moment they came out) Oh, and 2 of SS/PS because one vanished---
was 
> > later found wedged in a cabinet, muttering incoherantly.
> >
> 
MJ: 
> I ****KNEW**** I wasn't the only person who bought multiple 
copies!  
> 
> I have a set in paperback at my desk.  I write in those, taking 
> notes, highlighting, etc.
> 
> I have a hardback set at home.  Those don't get written in, except 
> for one hardback copy of HBP, because it took so long to get the 
> paperback version.  Then, I had to buy a new, unwritten-in 
hardback.  
> 
> 
> 
> MJ - glad to have confirmation she's not the only one with multiple 
> sets.
>


Alla:

LOL MJ - of course you are not the only one :) As Potioncat said  in 
this group, hehe, I am sure there are plenty of people having both.

I have both paperback and hardback of all six books, plus I did not 
manage to stop myself and bought british edition of Prisoner 
paperback and I have russian translations of OOP and HBP as well. I 
used to have prisoner and goblet in russian as well, but translations 
of those are just horrible, so I gave them to the library.




From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 21:19:34 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:19:34 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo3aj3+m0eq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo69l6+bntf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Annemehr" <annemehr at ...> 
wrote:
>

Snape's Witch:
 
> > > 
> > > Even more interesting is why she added Draco just before HBP 
was 
> > > published.
> > 
 
Potioncat:

> > Did she? I thought, but someone would need to confirm it, that 
over 
> the 
> > course of one year, JKR wished Happy Birthday to selected 
> characters. 
> > When the next year came around, the same set were there---no new 
> names 
> > and no missing ones.
> > 
> > She's wished both Draco and Snape happy birthday after HBP came 
> out. 
> > This was Snape's second greeting after HBP.
> >
> 

Annemehr wrote:

> <snip>
> However, Draco's birthday 
> *did* first appear just before HBP was published, because it 
happened 
> to be just short of a year since she began putting the birthdays up 
> at all.
> 
> Annemehr
> link maven today, apparently
>
 
 
Snape's Witch:

Jo's website began in May 2004.  It's my recollection that she 
announced the birthdays as the specific dates came up.  I know that 
was the case with Snape's; he first appeared on the list on Jan. 9, 
2005, and, yes, has been 'caked' every year since then.  

Thanks for verifying my point about Draco being added just before HBP 
was published. :-)  

So far *everybody* on the list has reappeared and personally I have 
no doubt that they will continue to appear.

Snape's Witch
devoutly hoping that the birthday list is indeed the list of survivors




From Aixoise at snet.net  Thu Jan 11 21:47:41 2007
From: Aixoise at snet.net (Stacey Nunes-Ranchy)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:47:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <20070111194357.56860.qmail@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <043001c735ca$1efef600$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>

 

Angela wrote:

Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
editions. What about all of you? 

Stacey:

I have books 1-4 in paperback and 5 & 6 in hardback, all US versions and
then 1-6 in the French paperback (Folio) Edition. 

 

Anyone have the music?  Unable to have afford all the soundtracks, I settled
on a compilation called Music from the Harry Potter Films performed by the
City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and it's really good.  It plays
nonstop in the car.  The kids love to yell out what was happening in the
movies while that particular selection was playing.

 

Stacey (who saw the City of Prague Philharmonic play when she visited Prague
a second time..okay so it wasn't Harry Potter music, but still, Mozart isn't
too shabby either!)



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From cdayr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 22:47:56 2007
From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:47:56 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter reference on House yesterday
In-Reply-To: <eo4c8q+qpoh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eo6eqs+b9e6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" 
<willsonkmom at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
> <dumbledore11214@> wrote:
> >
> > Did anybody catch yesterday House calling his rehab supervisor 
> > Voldemort?
> > 
> > I thought it was hilarious.
> > 
> > Alla, who loves Dr. House. :)
> 
> Potioncat:
<snip>
> 
> What I think is neat, is that the actor has also been the grumpy 
> husband in Sense and Sensibility (with a ton of future HP actors) 
and 
> the father in Stewart Little and a very minor part in The Borowers 
> (with a different ton of HP actors. An adorable, little Tom Felton 
> among them.)
>
CDR:

Hugh Laurie (House) also plays one of my all time favorite comic 
characters- the Prince Regent in Blackadder III. 

"Lucky us, lucky, lucky, lucky, luck, luck, luck, cluck, cluck, 
cluck," to you Blackadder fans out there.

-CDR, who also loves the parallels between Snape and House.






From arandall1983 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 12 11:41:55 2007
From: arandall1983 at yahoo.com (angela randall)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:41:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

MJ:
> I ****KNEW**** I wasn't the only person who bought multiple 
> copies! 
>
> I have a set in paperback at my desk. I write in those, 
> taking notes, highlighting, etc.
> 
> I have a hardback set at home. Those don't get written in, 
> except for one hardback copy of HBP, because it took so long
> to get the paperback version. Then, I had to buy a new, 
> unwritten-in hardback. 


Okay, in that case I have 1 of each book in hardback.
 
Angela Randall
MSN: arandall1983 at hotmail.com
Yahoo: arandall1983 at yahoo.com




From animal29ca at yahoo.ca  Fri Jan 12 17:24:56 2007
From: animal29ca at yahoo.ca (Darryl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:24:56 -0000
Subject: New to the Group
Message-ID: <eo8g98+5au6@eGroups.com>

Hi there. I am new to the group and I have the hard cover, paperback 
and audio versions. I like to listen to it on the IPOD. 






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jan 12 17:38:51 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:38:51 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000901c73670$8666a760$67a4a8c0@rosie>

Hmm--well, I have paperback of SS, hardbacks of COS,POA, GOF and OOTP.  I
have cassette editions of the first four books (those I call my "Lend-out"
copies.)  For my own pleasure, I have all 6 on Audio CD.  I do have MP3
copies of all on my computer for travel purposes...gotta have 'em!

So, I guess I have enough to be getting on with as far as the US editions
go, but I would dearly love to get all of the Stephen Fry UK audios!  I just
don't have a lot of money right now, especially since I think we're gonna
have to plunk a lot into plumbing expenditures which includes ripping out a
wall to find a leak...not good!

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Fri Jan 12 19:30:51 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:30:51 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701121130pa40b2d1t3b230bdd5822c7bc@mail.gmail.com>

MJ:
> I ****KNEW**** I wasn't the only person who bought multiple
> copies!
>
> I have a set in paperback at my desk. I write in those,
> taking notes, highlighting, etc.
>
> I have a hardback set at home. Those don't get written in,
> except for one hardback copy of HBP, because it took so long
> to get the paperback version. Then, I had to buy a new,
> unwritten-in hardback.
====================

Jeremiah:

OMG!!! I am at the point of purchasing the paperbacks so I can start writing
in them! I have a notebook with a bunch of scribbly-notes all over the place
and I've been working on an Ecel file on my computer to do a
character-breakdown. It's a mess!

So, I knew I wasn't the only person freakish enough to have multiple copies
for personal recreation, textual sanctity and geeky-interrest (that order
would break-down to: paperback, USA hardcover and UK hardcover).

However, I have a feeling that I might take the freshly purchased paperbacks
to the copy store and reduce the font so I can have extra room for notes...
LOL. I just grossed myself out with my nerdy-ness... and yet I embrace it,
all the same...


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Fri Jan 12 21:03:34 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:03:34 EST
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>

Angela wrote:
I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first editions. What about all  
of you? 
 
Mary says:
I have 
--- hardcover US editions of all 6 books
--- paperback US of 1-5, including Quidditch and Fantastic Beasts, but  not 
HBP yet
--- CDs of US versions (would love to have Stephen Fry's also)
--- British versions of Philosopher's Stone, Quidditch through the ages,  and 
Fantastic Beasts
 
I also have an extra copy of COS hardback that I use in crafts. I'm looking  
for beat up copies of the other that I can also cut up.

---Mary


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From Aixoise at snet.net  Fri Jan 12 21:40:07 2007
From: Aixoise at snet.net (Stacey Nunes-Ranchy)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:40:07 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <05e001c73692$3aea0990$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>

Mary wrote:
I also have an extra copy of COS hardback that I use in crafts. I'm looking 
for beat up copies of the other that I can also cut up.



Stacey: 

Ooohhhh..I'm intrigued!  What kind of crafts?  And do you have pictures that
you're willing to share?  I'm not crafty at all but I love viewing others'
creations!

 

Stacey (who's children just begged her for Harry Potter Valentine
Cards.okay, they didn't have to beg long LOL)



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From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Fri Jan 12 22:40:50 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah LaFleur)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:40:50 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <05e001c73692$3aea0990$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>
References: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>
	 <05e001c73692$3aea0990$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>
Message-ID: <948bbb470701121440h10a2737ck2d883b4c99515436@mail.gmail.com>

Mary wrote:
I also have an extra copy of COS hardback that I use in crafts. I'm looking
for beat up copies of the other that I can also cut up.

Stacey:

Ooohhhh..I'm intrigued! What kind of crafts? And do you have pictures that
you're willing to share? I'm not crafty at all but I love viewing others'
creations!

Stacey (who's children just begged her for Harry Potter Valentine
Cards.okay, they didn't have to beg long LOL)
-------------

Jeremiah:

OMG! Crafts! I love seeing people's crafty things, especially with Harry
Potter!!

I'm a knitter and a friend of mine LOVES Griffyndor House so I knit her a
hat in burgundy and gold... all my own design, very garrish and with a huge
pompom on the top. It's actually one of the things that makes me say,
"oohhh..." when I read the books. Hagrid knits and Mollie knits, so I am
always intrigued with what they are up to. Especially in the films... all
the knit items people wear! I love it.

(jeremiah: who is trying to decide if a scarf to match the hat is his next
project or a Hufflepuff scarf and hat-combo for himself... 'cause he's a
selfish knitter at times- especially when it gets cold outside).


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From RSComics at aol.com  Fri Jan 12 19:22:45 2007
From: RSComics at aol.com (RSComics at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:22:45 EST
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <3fd.cf97da4.32d93a05@aol.com>

Lee, n2fgc at arrl.net writes:
>> So, I guess I have enough to be getting on with as far as 
the US editions go,  but I would dearly love to get all of the 
Stephen Fry UK audios!  I just don't have a lot of money right 
now, especially since I think we're gonna have to plunk a lot 
into plumbing expenditures which includes ripping out a wall 
to find a leak...not good! <<


Sorry about the leak Lee, I sure know how that goes. Since I 
came to Harry Potter so late only a year and a half a go I got 
the soft editions and read them straight through and have HBP 
in hard bound. I really do want to get the hard  bound covers 
but need a nice place to put them. This is a nice group, I'm 
glad I joined. 

Best, Brigit







From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 13 01:55:41 2007
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:55:41 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <20070112114155.84228.qmail@web56602.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1H5Y7T-0004pk-7o@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

MJ:
> I ****KNEW**** I wasn't the only person who bought multiple copies!
>
> I have a set in paperback at my desk. I write in those, taking notes, 
> highlighting, etc.
> 
> I have a hardback set at home. Those don't get written in, except for 
> one hardback copy of HBP, because it took so long to get the paperback 
> version. Then, I had to buy a new, unwritten-in hardback.


Sherry now:
I have one each of all the books on cassette, and then, because the
cassettes were breaking and the boxes getting torn, and because I wanted to
be able to play the books on my portable MP3 player, I just bought them all
again on CD.  Well, except they didn't have COS in stock, so I haven't
gotten that one yet on CD.  I also have all of them in Braille, in plain
text format and in two different forms of digital braille, which is braille
that can be read with special devices attached to a computer or with screen
reading software!  They are all the US version, though someday, I'd like to
get the UK audio versions as well.

The interesting thing about the two audio versions of GOF is that I got the
cassette version the day GOF was released.  When Jim Dale recorded it, he
didn't even know the title, so he just says the fourth book in JK Rowling's
Harry Potter series.  It also has the original version of James and Lily
coming out of the wand, so they come out in the wrong order.  However, I
just finished reading the CD version.  It still says the fourth book .... no
title, but it does have the corrected graveyard scene with Lily coming out
of the wand first.  It was cool to read it, because I had never read the
corrected version!

Sherry




From gonzaloanet at yahoo.es  Sat Jan 13 00:18:29 2007
From: gonzaloanet at yahoo.es (gonzaloanet)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:18:29 -0000
Subject: Asking J. K. Rowling
Message-ID: <eo98gl+au2r@eGroups.com>

Hello all:

Do anyone know how we can send our questions to the F. A. Q. of
www.jkrowling.com?

Regards,

Gonzalo A. Luengo O. (http://es.geocities.com/gonzaloluengoplus)





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sat Jan 13 17:41:06 2007
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:41:06 EST
Subject: Wondering what you all think
Message-ID: <d16.4df3d7b.32da73b2@aol.com>

I know you all are obsessed fans like me , and have probably been to  various 
Harry Potter websites such as _www.mugglenet.com_ (http://www.mugglenet.com)  
and J.K. Rowling's website  , and have read opinion columns , and the little 
tidbits that J.K. has given us.  One comment she made was that someone redeems 
him or herself in Deathly Hallows.  A lot of people have been speculating 
that the person could be Draco , Snape or  Wormtail , but I have never seen Percy 
Weasley mentioned. I know that most of  you probably thought that Percy was 
acting like the world's biggest git in Order  of the Phoenix and in Half Blood 
prince. Even after it is known by the whole  wizarding community that Vold
emort is back , Percy still shuns his family.  Perhaps he will be the one 
redeemed? Any thoughts on  that?


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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jan 13 18:44:44 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:44:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>
References: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003001c73742$e4bae010$67a4a8c0@rosie>

| Mary says:
| I have 
| --- hardcover US editions of all 6 books
| --- paperback US of 1-5, including Quidditch and Fantastic 
| Beasts, but  not 
| HBP yet

[Lee]:
Oh--yeah-- I have those two neat little books, also.  Too bad they never did
audio copies of them. <Sniffle!>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From RSComics at aol.com  Sat Jan 13 19:10:50 2007
From: RSComics at aol.com (RSComics at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:10:50 EST
Subject: Wondering what you all think
Message-ID: <461.a437055.32da88ba@aol.com>

 
 
Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com writes:
> Percy  still shuns his family.  Perhaps he will be the 
> one redeemed? Any thoughts on that?


You thought is well taken. But when I think of Percy I do not think of him  
as being a terrible person just incredibly misguided by his own arrogance and  
ignorance. And he wasn't always so cruel to his family. I think it will be 
Draco  because he could not kill Dumbledore when push came to shove and was 
sickened  during the whole events leading up to his task to do so. I believe he 
will help  Harry in some way and so will Percy but it will be more by accident 
but a very  much need one that really is important. Snape to me I'm so unclear 
of, he is one  of the greatest enigma's in modern literature. 

Brigit



From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Fri Jan 12 07:44:01 2007
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:44:01 +0200
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eo5sm1+5ptt@eGroups.com>
References: <45A64FC6020000780000203F@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>
 <eo5sm1+5ptt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <45A758610200007800002060@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>

>>> "potioncat" <willsonkmom at msn.com> 2007-01-11 19:38 >>>
Potioncat:
Here's a link to the Lexicon's list of birthdays which were announced 
on JKR's site:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/sources/jkr.com/jkr-com-birthdays.html

There is also a whole section of time lines at the Lexicon. <<



Thanks,  I'll look at the site and see how blind-friendly it is.

Cairie



From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Sat Jan 13 20:28:16 2007
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:28:16 -0000
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <45A758610200007800002060@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>
Message-ID: <eobfd0+najh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cairie Witter" 
<Cairie.Witter at ...> wrote:

> 
> Thanks,  I'll look at the site and see how blind-friendly it is.
> 
> Cairie
>


Oooh, Cairie!  I would really love to have your feedback on that!  How 
did you find it?  Do you (or any of the other blind folks on this 
list) have suggestions on how to improve its friendliness?
Belinda




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 13 21:11:53 2007
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:11:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <454.b699d81.32d951a6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <418389.52096.qm@web56009.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


> Angela wrote:
> I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first
> editions. What about all  
> of you? 
>  
Sheryll:

Oh dear, I'm going to sound horribly HP obsessed here.
Well, at least I'm in good company for a confession of
this sort. :D

I've got all but Order of the Phoenix in hardcover,
Canadian editions (thanks to an ex-coworker who
absconded with my copy of OotP), the US hardcover
edition of OotP, a Canadian paperback of OotP with a
printing error that has the back cover copy reading
the synopsis for GoF, both schoolbooks, PS and PoA in
Russian (hard cover), PoA in German (hard cover), the
first 4 paperback editions in French, PoA in  Spanish
(paperback), PS in Polish (paperback) and a paperback
edition of OotP in Portugese that was gifted to me
(and signed) by the translator. 

I've also got a couple copies of SS in paperback (US,
obviously) and a US copy of CoS in paperback. I've got
additional hardcover copies of the first 4 books,
Canadian editions. I take a copy every time I go to a
big HP gathering or conference and have people write
in them for me. It's fun to back and look at books
I've had signed a couple years ago and remember the
fun that accompanied whatever event I was at. 

Oh, and, no, I don't read any of the other languages
aside from English and French and my French is so
unused and rusty that I need a French/English
dictionary handy. :)

No wonder my husband says we need an addition to the
house for all the HP stuff (because, you know, there's
lego and toys and figures and such). ;D

Sheryll, not at all obsessed - why do you ask?

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From queen_amidalachic at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 13 23:14:27 2007
From: queen_amidalachic at yahoo.com (Maria)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:14:27 -0000
Subject: Murder in the Bathroom -- HBP Art -- PG-13
Message-ID: <eobp4j+dtae@eGroups.com>


Title: Murder in the Bathroom
Rating: PG-13 for blood
Characters: Harry, Draco and Moaning Myrtle
Medium: sketch and CG

No- I didn't-`

Harry did know what he was saying; he fell to his knees beside Malfoy, 
who was shaking uncontrollably in a pool of his own blood. Moaning 
Myrtle let out a deafening scream.

'MURDER! MURDER IN THE BATHROOM! MURDER!'
Pg 489, HBP, English edition, JKR.
http://teawithvoldy.livejournal.com/235586.html




From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Jan 14 00:56:11 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:56:11 EST
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <417.12ee3e84.32dad9ab@aol.com>

Stacey: 
Ooohhhh..I'm intrigued! What kind of crafts? And do you have  pictures that
you're willing to share? I'm not crafty at all but I love  viewing others'
creations!

Me:
Hi, Stacey!  I don't have any photos online but you can see lots of  
HP-related crafts at:
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HarryPotterCrafts/_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HarryPotterCrafts/) 
 
and
_http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:crafts_ 
(http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:crafts)  
 
Right now I am finishing up some things for a HP craft swap. One of the  
things I am including is a blank Quidditch lover's journal. Each page has a  quote 
from "Quidditch Through the Ages" on it. The cover will be decorated with  
torn paper from COS (the Quidditch match pages, of course!) as well as Quidditch 
 related stickers, rubber stamps, etc. 
 
I love making "blank books" and have several with HP themes. A friend made  
one for me where the covers were cut down from an HP board game. I'm using it 
as  a scrapbook of HP related events that I attend. 
 
After I've cut all out all the pages from COS, I'm thinking about turning  it 
into a purse or at least a box to store HP related things. Maybe my HP  
bookmark collection. Whenever I stop in a second hand store  (Goodwill, St  
Vinnies, etc), I always check for HP stuff. Even if the puzzles and games are  
missing pieces, I can use them in something else. The copy of COS was only 99  cents 
and most games are less than $3.
 
I love to crochet and made a couple of snitches. One is a "patch" to put on  
the sleeve of your Quidditch robe. The other is much smaller and is a tiny pin 
 with metal wings. 
 
I've got my eye on a pattern for a crocheted afghan that has all the house  
emblems on it. I don't know if I will get to it, but it is nice to think  about.
 
---Mary


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Jan 14 00:59:26 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:59:26 EST
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <cd8.82d5fa3.32dada6e@aol.com>

Jeremiah:
Mollie knits, so I am always intrigued with what they are up to. Especially  
in the films... all the knit items people wear! I love it.
 
Me:
It is funny that she knits but my favorite Molly item is has gorgeous  
crocheted sleeves. OK, it is the movie Molly but I still love them! I just  pulled a 
red sweater out of my "give away" box when I realized it would be  perfect 
with "Molly sleeves" on them. Now THAT I might get made this  month!
 
---Mary



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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 14 06:51:19 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:51:19 -0000
Subject: Murder in the Bathroom -- HBP Art -- PG-13
In-Reply-To: <eobp4j+dtae@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eocjt7+toin@eGroups.com>

---  "Maria" <queen_amidalachic at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Title: Murder in the Bathroom
> Rating: PG-13 for blood
> Characters: Harry, Draco and Moaning Myrtle
> Medium: sketch and CG
> 
> No- I didn't-`
> 
> ...
> 
> 'MURDER! MURDER IN THE BATHROOM! MURDER!'
> Pg 489, HBP, English edition, JKR.
> http://teawithvoldy.livejournal.com/235586.html
>

What a stunning image. Absolutely fantastic. The expression
on Myrtle'face is great; also most a good as the expression
on Harry's face, which is priceless. And Draco... Draco
looks absolutely terrible.

Really a great image. I especially like the small details
like the patch on the knee of Harry's pants. Also, love
the way you were able to make Mrytle semi-transparent. 

Nice work.

Steve/bboyminn





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Sun Jan 14 15:39:28 2007
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:39:28 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Wondering what you all tnk
Message-ID: <c5a.a98696c.32dba8b0@aol.com>

Brigit , you bring up very good points as well. I brought up Percy because  
he didn't seem as obvious of a choice. Knowing how JKR works , for example , 
she  had me surprised in Philosopher's Stone when it was Quirrel instead of 
Snape ,  in Chamber of Secrets when Tom Riddle appeared and it was Ginny under his 
 influence letting the basilisk out , in POA when Wormtail was still alive , 
in  GOF when Moody turned out to be Barty Crouch Jr , and in HBP when Snape 
killed  Dumbledore ( his being the prince easier to swallow since he excels in 
potions).  And on Snape for just another moment ... I too think he is one of 
the best  written characters in any book I have ever read ( and that is saying  
something).
I guess my point here is that JKR gives us several leads to the questions  we 
pose in each book , often making us lean toward one solution that seems to  
make the most sense , then yet at the end , almost out of left field something  
completely unexpected happens , but we can see how it did once we look back 
at  the events leading up to it.
R.A.B.  ... Sirius' brother seems like such the obvious choice ,  especially 
if we consider that mysterious locket found in the cleaning out of  #12 
Grimmauld place ... but is it too obvious? Who else has these initals?
Snape :  good or bad? I can argue either side of the case. There are  so many 
things he does that make me want to lean in both directions. I have read  all 
the books in the series at least 10 times and I am still not sure which way  
I want to lean.
Draco: his being redeemed seems a little more plausible if it isn't Percy.  
He has been rotten all throughout the 6 years we have seen him at Hogwarts , 
yet  , as we saw in HBP , he couldn't bring himself to kill Dumbledore. I ask 
you  this ... what would have happened if the Death Eaters hadn't come for 
another 10  minutes , or didn't show up at all? Draco may be arrogant , cruel , 
vindictive ,  etc , but only when he has someone to back him up. Otherwise I feel 
he is weak ,  and really insecure.
Sorry for the long letter , please feel free to make more comments
Kristin
 


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Date: 14 Jan 2007 16:43:52 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/14/2007, 11:00 am 
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From hpcentaur at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 14 10:54:36 2007
From: hpcentaur at yahoo.com (hpcentaur)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:54:36 -0000
Subject: A supercool HP website.
Message-ID: <eod25c+sf5l@eGroups.com>

There is a Supercool Website. It has everything about Harry Potter.
The url of the site is 
<http://harry-potter-harry-potter-swicki.eurekster.com/>
http://harry-potter-harry-potter-swicki.eurekster.com
<http://harry-potter-harry-potter-swicki.eurekster.com>    . It is a
HP search engine. Please tell me what you think about the site. Thank
You. [:)]  [;)]

If you have a website or blog then you can add the buzz cloud of the 
search engine to you website or blog. Follow this link for more
info:
http://swickihome.eurekster.com/share.htm?gid=55b4eab1-ce66-43fb-b9e8-6e\
1fb5ff870f
<http://swickihome.eurekster.com/share.htm?gid=55b4eab1-ce66-43fb-b9e8-6\
e1fb5ff870f>

Click here to find links about the 7th HP book.
http://harry-potter-harry-potter-swicki.eurekster.com/Harry+Potter+and+t\
he+Deathly+Hallows/
<http://harry-potter-harry-potter-swicki.eurekster.com/Harry+Potter+and+\
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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 14 17:44:51 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:44:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Fanfics and fanart, but what about fancomics?
Message-ID: <940268.34977.qm@web90413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Growing up, I was a bit of a comic nerd.  I would be still if I weren't living on a budget though there's always money to spare for Whedon's stuff.
   
  That 'Murder in the Bathroom' art got me wondering...
   
  Fanfics are popular, but are there any fancomics for HP?  Either theirs or their interpretation of one or all of the book?
   
  Thanks!
   
   
   
   

 	 
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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 14 18:21:28 2007
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:21:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fanfics and fanart, but what about fancomics?
In-Reply-To: <940268.34977.qm@web90413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <940268.34977.qm@web90413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1168798892.63C0938@bd8.dngr.org>

There are lots! Of course, pottperpuppetpals is sort of an animated (and 
now live-action) comic strip, but even more than that, fans have been 
making fan comics for as long as there's been a fandom.
On artisticalley.org we have a whole section for multipanel art 
(including comics) - you can find it at 
http://www.artisticalley.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=503 (you may 
need to c&p the url) - there's pushing 400 different examples of 
multipanel art there.

And somewhere I  have a link to ali wildgoose's PotterPuffs includoing 
her wonderful PotterPuff Voldie. I'll try to find it if anyone wants.

Heidi
Http://www.fictionalley.org




On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 1:11 pm, kemper mentor wrote:
> Growing up, I was a bit of a comic nerd.  I would be still if I weren't 
> living on a budget though there's always money to spare for Whedon's 
> stuff.
>
>   That 'Murder in the Bathroom' art got me wondering...
>
>   Fanfics are popular, but are there any fancomics for HP?  Either 
> theirs or their interpretation of one or all of the book?
>
>   Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>  	
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>  Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
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From RSComics at aol.com  Sun Jan 14 21:28:21 2007
From: RSComics at aol.com (RSComics at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:28:21 EST
Subject: Wondering what you all tnk
Message-ID: <bd8.d589287.32dbfa75@aol.com>

Kristin Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com writes:
>> Draco:  his being redeemed seems a little more plausible if 
it isn't Percy.  He has been rotten all throughout the 6 years 
we have seen him at Hogwarts, yet, as we saw in HBP, he couldn't 
bring himself to kill Dumbledore. I ask you this ... what would 
have happened if the Death Eaters hadn't come for another 10 
minutes, or didn't show up at all? Draco may be arrogant, cruel, 
vindictive, etc, but only when he has someone to back him up. 
Otherwise I feel he is weak, and really insecure.
Sorry for the long letter, please feel free to make more 
comments. <<
 

Kristin, your memory is incredible. I've only read most of the 
books twice.  I could not recall all this material if you paid 
me a million and yet it all comes rushing back. You mention clues 
that are placed in by our author through out and then BAM! it all 
changes on a dime. With Draco's father being in prison maybe he 
can change without his influence. I need to read the books more 
often  so I can really retain them. JKR has a way of writing 
emotions with her characters I have never seen. What goes on 
inside to the outside in communication between others. Brilliant! 
Perhaps Draco is to obvious. Let me think more about it. I'm 
still reeling over the fact that Dumbledore is gone. Is he 
really? I know he is, but that is hard to take. 

Best, Brigit









From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 05:00:35 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:00:35 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <c50.c8ab8a8.32dc6473@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/11/07 3:44:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
willsonkmom at msn.com writes:


> angela:
> > Hi everyone. I have been on this list for a whole but not 
> > posted. I have all six of the Harry Potter books in first 
> > editions. What about all of you? 
> Potioncat:
> Hi Angela and welcomed.
> A better question for this group might be, How many copies of each book 
> do you have, and in how many different versions?
> 
> Potioncat (for the record, one each, the last two in hardback the 
> moment they came out) Oh, and 2 of SS/PS because one vanished---was 
> later found wedged in a cabinet, muttering incoherantly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  

Sandy:

I have all six books in paperback and HBP only in hardback. I am pretty new 
to HP fandom. I read SS for the first time in December 2004 and then read the 
other four in very short order. I had had the first three for several years but 
had not gotten around to reading them. Once I started HP I couldn't stop. 
They sell the books where I work so I was able to buy GOF and OOP there when I 
got to them. The reason I have HBP in hardback is because it was the first book 
released after I started reading the series and I went to a midnight release 
party. I bought the paperback when it came out so I could re-read it without 
having to carry 10 lbs. of book. I thought about getting the other five in 
hardback -- we have them at work, but I am on a limited budget and prefer to spend 
my money on HP movie memorabilia, which I have an extensive collection of. I 
will buy DH in hardback too and the outcome of the series will determine if I 
buy the paperback and re-read it.

Sandy


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From bunniqula at gmail.com  Mon Jan 15 04:52:42 2007
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:52:42 -0500
Subject: Converted Henry Jenkins, Mr. Fandom Prof, over to Supernatural
Message-ID: <1a2738400701142052r13b060b4i75cc4999e7df06aa@mail.gmail.com>

>From http://www.henryjenkins.org/2007/01/supernatural.html
[[
Late last fall, I asked for readers of this blog to pimp their
favorite shows. Overwhelmingly, the most popular choice was a CW
series called Supernatural -- of course, there was a concerted
campaign within the show's fan community to write in and share the
love for the series in hopes that it might generate greater awareness
of the program.
]]

{chuckle} I remember that because I also joined SPN fans, along with
saying CW's Supernatural had parallels to NBC's Heroes.

[[
I've been watching Supernatural while coping with jet lag during my
trip to Singapore -- maybe not the best choice under the circumstances
because instead of putting me to sleep, I keep wanting to watch just
one more and end up staying up later than I should be. I more or less
ended up inhaling Season One -- watching the last eight episodes more
or less back to back on the flight back from Singapore, and I am now
craving season two.
]]

No flights to Singapore for me but I do remember being not quite 'must
watch' until the third portion of season one... which isn't to say the
earlier eps were bad.  I think the series was building itself up.  But
yeah, I also 'inhaled' the last several episodes via downloading (S2
is up on iTunes) because I couldn't wait for the reruns to show the
final eps.

Anyway, huh, a 'thinky' analysis of the series.  I rather enjoy the
'pretty' of the series. :-D  If Jenkins thought S1 was 'melodrama' and
'hurt/comfort', S2 takes it up a notch and you see some emotional
breakdowns.  Though, the series still retains its moments of humour.

Dina



From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 05:12:27 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:12:27 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <d0c.6a759dc.32dc673b@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/11/07 5:30:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aixoise at snet.net 
writes:


> Anyone have the music? 

Sandy:

I have the soundtrack from SS. I listen to it in my personal CD player 
constantly. It is my favorite. I do the same as your kids; remember the scenes as 
the music is playing.

BTW, I forgot to mention in my earlier post that I also have all six books on 
audio -- the British Stepen Frye versions, and Jim Dale's COS. The other five 
Jim Dale versions are on my to be gotten list. He is fabulous!

Sandy


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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 05:53:10 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:53:10 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <c08.eb7af81.32dc70c6@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/12/07 4:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aixoise at snet.net 
writes:


> Stacey (who's children just begged her for Harry Potter Valentine
> Cards.okay, they didn't have to beg long LOL)

Sandy:

I collect those too, and just couldn't wait for them to get the Valentine 
stuff up at work so I could get this year's, but, alas, they are the very same 
ones as last year. Oh well,, I used the money and bought an HP jigsaw puzzle off 
of Ebay.

Sandy


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From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 15 06:45:39 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:45:39 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <c08.eb7af81.32dc70c6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <eof7uj+jk26@eGroups.com>

Rather than buy the first four books, I checked them out from the 
Library over several months before the first movie came out.  After 
that I bought the trade ppbks from time to time.  Of course, when OotP 
and HBP were released I *had* to get the hdbks immediately, if not 
sooner. I now have ppbks for all six books and my hard copies will 
eventually wind up at Goodwill.  I just don't have room for them, as it 
is Harry's fighting for room with Sherlock Holmes!!

I absolutely *must* have the UK versions which fortunately are 
available online from Canada.  I'm disturbed to find that Scholastic 
had made changes that make no sense at all, not just the stuff that I 
really don't think little kids would understand.

And then there're the audio versions -- I want Stephen Frye's version 
so very badly but it's only available from the UK and we all know the 
currency exchange really sucks!

Snape's Witch




From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 15 07:02:11 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:02:11 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <cd8.82d5fa3.32dada6e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <eof8tj+finb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at ... wrote:
>
> Jeremiah:
> Mollie knits, so I am always intrigued with what they are up to. 
Especially  
> in the films... all the knit items people wear! I love it.
>  
> Me:
> It is funny that she knits but my favorite Molly item is has 
gorgeous  
> crocheted sleeves. OK, it is the movie Molly but I still love them! 
I just  pulled a 
> red sweater out of my "give away" box when I realized it would be  
perfect 
> with "Molly sleeves" on them. Now THAT I might get made this  month!
>  
> ---Mary
> 

I loved Molly's sleeves too.  

And Hermione knitting hats for the house elves.  Absolutely useless, 
unfortunately.

And best of all, Dumble's reading knitting patterns in Sluggie's 
bathroom!!

A couple of winters ago (hmm, maybe three!) I knit a scarf based on 
the PoA design, but it needs to be blocked and lacks a fringe. It's 
Slytherin, of course, I am Snape's Witch after all! 

I have the pattern for Dobby's socks too.  Someday I'll get around to 
knitting them but first I'll have to decide whether to do the 
snitches and broomsticks in duplicate stitch or intarsia on two 
needles.  Decisions, decisions.

Snape's Witch

 





From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jan 15 10:35:05 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:35:05 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <eof8tj+finb@eGroups.com>
References: <eof8tj+finb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <45AB58D9.2040907@internode.on.net>

Elizabeth Snape wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at ... wrote:
>> Jeremiah:
>> Mollie knits, so I am always intrigued with what they are up to. 
> Especially  
>> in the films... all the knit items people wear! I love it.

There is/was a webpage out there where a woman had the five house
scarves...


yes, I said five.


See, apparently she had noted that the Ravenclaw colours in the book
varied from the ones in the movie.

Anyway they were very good replicas indeed, far better than the nylon
ones which WB sells.

She had the patterns up for download too.

Wolfie!

-- 
      Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife.

Currently running "Wolfie's Pub Science"
         Every virtual friday!

            ICQ - 3449014

         Skype - Wolfie_storr

         * Eats a kid a day *



From random832 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 15 13:39:10 2007
From: random832 at gmail.com (Jordan Abel)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:39:10 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <45AB58D9.2040907@internode.on.net>
References: <eof8tj+finb@eGroups.com> <45AB58D9.2040907@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/15/07, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:
> See, apparently she had noted that the Ravenclaw colours in the book
> varied from the ones in the movie.

I don't recall that the book had scarves (or ties) at all - just plain
black robes, wasn't it?



From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jan 15 14:33:46 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:33:46 +1100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eof8tj+finb@eGroups.com> <45AB58D9.2040907@internode.on.net> <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45AB90CA.3060009@internode.on.net>

Jordan Abel wrote:
> On 1/15/07, Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> See, apparently she had noted that the Ravenclaw colours in the book
>> varied from the ones in the movie.
> 
> I don't recall that the book had scarves (or ties) at all - just plain
> black robes, wasn't it?

That's what she did, that's all I know.
If you can find the link, good luck...
it was a few years back when I first found it
so it may be long gone.

Wolfie!

-- 
      Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife.

Currently running "Wolfie's Pub Science"
         Every virtual friday!

            ICQ - 3449014

         Skype - Wolfie_storr

         * Eats a kid a day *



From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jan 15 15:35:19 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:35:19 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eog6vn+vhcr@eGroups.com>


> On 1/15/07, Wolfie! <wuff at ...> wrote:
> > See, apparently she had noted that the Ravenclaw colours in the book
> > varied from the ones in the movie.
> 
> I don't recall that the book had scarves (or ties) at all - just plain
> black robes, wasn't it?

Potioncat:
I think scarves are mentioned during cold weather (I could be wrong) 
but certainly at some Quidditch games. I "think" they were described as 
being in the school colors...or colours...but that could be movie-
contamination. I would gladly search through the chapters for Quidditch 
games, but can't right now.
>





From Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com  Mon Jan 15 16:53:10 2007
From: Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com (Hockeygrrrl17 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:53:10 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:  Wondering what you all tnk
Message-ID: <ca4.724dc61.32dd0b76@aol.com>

Brigit , 
well thanks for the compliments. I have this silly habit of analyzing every  
detail I read. I am one of the crazies that has to process every line taken. 
Who  knows about Draco. I would like to see him turn to the good side , because 
I  believe at the heart of the matter , he really isn't as bad as he pretends 
to be  , and perhaps is influenced by his rotten father. Unfortunately 
Dumbledore is  dead , and I read that JKR has confirmed this fact by saying that 
Dumbledore is  not going to pull a Gandalf. I however do not believe Dumbledore's 
influence has  ended ... this is a point brought up by many readers , but we 
can't forget that  the portraits of past headmasters are honor bound to serve 
the current  headmaster , or headmistress in this case. 


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From Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za  Mon Jan 15 09:15:30 2007
From: Cairie.Witter at resbank.co.za (Cairie Witter)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:15:30 +0200
Subject: Snape's birthday...will she or won't she?
In-Reply-To: <eobfd0+najh@eGroups.com>
References: <45A758610200007800002060@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>
 <eobfd0+najh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <45AB62520200007800002096@SARBGIA1.RESBANK.CO.ZA>


Hi Belinda

I haven't managed to go on that site yet, but, I'll let you know 
as soon as I know.  I'm not very computer literate, unfortunately, 
so I really don't know how to get it more blind friendly.

Cairie 

>>> "Belinda" <bhobbs36 at verizon.net> 2007-01-13 22:28 >>>
Oooh, Cairie!  I would really love to have your feedback on that!  
How did you find it?  Do you (or any of the other blind folks on 
this list) have suggestions on how to improve its friendliness?
Belinda
>>>




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jan 15 20:30:51 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:30:51 -0500
Subject: Scarves Colors
In-Reply-To: <eog6vn+vhcr@eGroups.com>
References: <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>
 <eog6vn+vhcr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c738e4$0cd47e60$67a4a8c0@rosie>

In OOTP Chapter 19, reference is made to McGonnogal wearing a Gryffindor
scarf and tearing it off upon entering her office after the fight on the
Quidditch pitch.

I believe there are also refs to house-color scarves in HBP  They mostly
seem to come out for games.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 16 23:48:48 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:48:48 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter books
In-Reply-To: <7b9f25e50701150539r4278829budec51a6d63cebf2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eojo90+619n@eGroups.com>

I don't remember House-colored scarves in the book...I remember
Hermione dressing up in a hat and scarf to visit Hagrid once, and that
they wore scarves when going to Hogsmeade in the winter, but I don't
recall the colors...

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jordan Abel" <random832 at ...> w
rote:
>
> On 1/15/07, Wolfie! <wuff at ...> wrote:
> > See, apparently she had noted that the Ravenclaw colours in the book
> > varied from the ones in the movie.
> 
> I don't recall that the book had scarves (or ties) at all - just plain
> black robes, wasn't it?
>





From RSComics at aol.com  Wed Jan 17 00:10:33 2007
From: RSComics at aol.com (RSComics at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:10:33 EST
Subject: Harry Potter books
Message-ID: <d3e.5b5f1.32dec379@aol.com>

 
I think they wore knitted scarves that had their House colors on 
them. I remember they were really long. 
Brigit
 
cute_janers at yahoo.com writes:
>> don't  remember House-colored scarves in the book...I remember
Hermione dressing  up in a hat and scarf to visit Hagrid once, and 
that they wore scarves when  going to Hogsmeade in the winter, but 
I don't recall the  colors... <<










From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 17 15:34:17 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:34:17 -0000
Subject: Asking J. K. Rowling
In-Reply-To: <eo98gl+au2r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eolflp+l2d7@eGroups.com>

I looked around for you, and all I could find were these two
addresses.  I would probably include in your letter that you would
like them posted on the FAQ on her website...

 J.K. Rowling
c/o Scholastic Books
555 Broadway
New York, NY 10012, USA

J. K. Rowling
c/o Bloomsbury Publishing
38 Soho Square
London
W1V 5DF
UK



-
-- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "gonzaloanet" <gonzaloanet at ...>
wrote:
>
> Hello all:
> 
> Do anyone know how we can send our questions to the F. A. Q. of
> www.jkrowling.com?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gonzalo A. Luengo O. (http://es.geocities.com/gonzaloluengoplus)
>





From icedragn at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 17 17:30:39 2007
From: icedragn at hotmail.com (Jacqueline)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:30:39 -0000
Subject: Asking J. K. Rowling
In-Reply-To: <eolflp+l2d7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eolmfv+ie93@eGroups.com>



Gonzalo <gonzaloanet@> wrote:
> Do anyone know how we can send our questions to the F. A. Q.
> of www.jkrowling.com?

Jacqueline:
You could always try The Leaky Cauldron or Mugglenet she mentions
them in her site so she must read them or they might have a way
to send the question to her site.



From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 17 21:01:39 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:01:39 -0000
Subject: New Book Recommendation
Message-ID: <eom2rj+c7ab@eGroups.com>

Recently I was at one of the rural brand name discount
outlet malls and the book store was going out of business.
$2.00 each for all hardback and $1.00 for all soft cover
books. So, I wandered around and found half a dozen books
which I have been reading.

One of them was a real gem.

"Last Days of Summer" 
by Steve Kluger
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Days-Summer-Steve-Kluger/dp/0380797631

The book has a solid Five Star rating at Amazon, and is 
at once heartwarming and heartbreaking. 

It is a coming of age story for 12 year old Joey Margolis
who is living in a tough Italian neighborhood of Brooklyn.
The format is a little unusual in that most of the story
is told in letters, news clippings, send between Joey and 
his hero Charlie Banks, third basemen for the New York 
Giants.

Don't let the format throw you off. You will laugh and you
will cry at the antics of the characters, and I do mean
/characters/.

Here is an excerpt from the Harper's Pub. website -

"Laugh-out-loud funny."?Library Journal

"In this poignant and funny coming-of-age novel, Steve 
Kluger uses letters, newspaper clippings, war bulletins, 
and report cards to tell the delightfully quirky story of 
12-year-old Joey Margolis. Growing up Jewish in a tough 
Brooklyn neighborhood, Joey is troubled by anti-Semitic 
neighbors, by Hitler's rising power, by his parents' divorce,
and by his absent cad of a father. Joey is "a real pip," 
sending memos to Franklin D. Roosevelt advising on foreign 
policy and "Top Secret" missives to The Green Hornet, a.k.a.
his best friend, Craig Nakamura. Joey's letter-writing leads
to an unlikely friendship with his sports hero, New York 
Giants rookie third baseman Charlie Banks."

This books is earthy enough to be appreciated by guys,
romantic enough to be appreciated by girls, and despite
some course language sweet and funny enough to be 
appreciated by younger readers.

For a quick sample of the letters that young Joey and
Charlie exchange, check out the Harper's website here-

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780380797639/Last_Days_of_Summer/index.aspx

I heartily recommend that you check it out. 

Steve/bboyminn




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 17 21:52:51 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:52:51 -0000
Subject: Asking J. K. Rowling
In-Reply-To: <eolflp+l2d7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eom5rj+hlj0@eGroups.com>

---  "~*Liz*~" <cute_janers at ...> wrote:
>
> I looked around for you, and all I could find were these
> two addresses.  I would probably include in your letter
> that you would like them posted on the FAQ on her 
> website ...
> 
>  J.K. Rowling
> c/o Scholastic Books
> 555 Broadway
> New York, NY 10012, USA
> 
> J. K. Rowling
> c/o Bloomsbury Publishing
> 38 Soho Square
> London
> W1V 5DF
> UK


bboyminn:

JKR can also be contacted through her agent -

Christopher Little

The Christopher Little Literary Agency represents J K 
Rowling on a worldwide basis and with respect to all 
media - publishing, audio, film, TV and allied rights. Any
queries with respect to rights, permissions, translations,
interviews etc in connection with J K Rowling or 'Harry 
Potter', should be addressed to Christopher Little in the 
first instance (see contact details via the left hand 
page). The company also represents authors of both 
children's books and adult fiction and non-fiction works.

Christopher Little Literary Agency
Eel Brook Studios
125 Moore Park Road
London
SW6 4PS
United Kingdom

http://www.christopherlittle.net/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

There are an extremely rare and few who have a somewhat
direct Email Link to JKR, but they are not talking, so
the best you can do it contact JKR though one of her
representatives.

Keep in mind, that the likelihood that JKR herself will
read and respond to your email is extremely slim. However,
someone on her staff somewhere might reading and relay 
the information to JKR as part of a larger pool of
information.

Remember there is only one of her and many many millions
of us. 

I suspect JKR takes her FAQ questions from a general 
read of the mood and interest of the fan base. 
Occassionally, Mugglenet or the Leaky Cauldron website
will compile lists of questions from fans or they will 
write and publish an open letter to JKR on their website.
Usually after a substantial amount of time, JKR will
respond to some of the questions. 

There is no way to contact JKR directly.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn




From cute_janers at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 17 22:14:33 2007
From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (~*Liz*~)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:14:33 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter reference on House yesterday
In-Reply-To: <eo475q+u33j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eom749+u2j0@eGroups.com>

Oooh man, I missed this epsoide!!!  :-(  

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> Did anybody catch yesterday House calling his rehab supervisor 
> Voldemort?
> 
> I thought it was hilarious.
> 
> Alla, who loves Dr. House. :)
>





From retired153 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 18 02:17:17 2007
From: retired153 at yahoo.com (j)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:17:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Daily Princetonian Article: Harry Potter actor Radcliffe to join Class of 2011
Message-ID: <dp.20070117.00000000000300A4@dailyprincetonian.com>

The article below from The Daily Princetonian
has been sent to you by j <retired153 at yahoo.com>

Don't believe everything in print....

/----------------------------------------------\
 You can get the Daily Princetonian in your     
 email every morning! To subscribe to our email 
 or print editions, go to                       
 http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/subscribe.jsp 
\----------------------------------------------/

Harry Potter actor Radcliffe to join Class of 2011
By Harry Cox / Princetonian Staff Writer

    Thought Princeton was a magical place? At least one young wizard
agrees.

    Daniel Radcliffe, the 17-year-old British actor who gained worldwide
fame for his wide-eyed portrayal of boy-wizard Harry Potter, will join
the University next year as the most renowned member of the Class of
2011.

Read the full story at:
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/01/17/news/17113.shtml





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 18 08:35:51 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:35:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Nigh Everyone from Aberforth to Zacharias: a picture
Message-ID: <876513.72918.qm@web90403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ok... This is cool:
   
  http://www.artdungeon.net/general/potterverse.html
   
  Kemper
   
   

 
---------------------------------
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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From entropymail at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 18 16:34:33 2007
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:34:33 -0000
Subject: Fanfics and fanart, but what about fancomics?
In-Reply-To: <940268.34977.qm@web90413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <eoo7ip+gcoj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, kemper mentor
<kempermentor at ...> wrote:
>   Fanfics are popular, but are there any fancomics for HP?  Either
theirs or their interpretation of one or all of the book?
>    
>   Thanks!
>    

Here's a site of really nice HP comics, but they are all Japanese
(doujinshi). Don't know if that would count...

:: Entropy ::
visit my Etsy Shop at www.SugarcubeDesign.etsy.com




From entropymail at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 18 22:09:24 2007
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:09:24 -0000
Subject: Fanfics and fanart, but what about fancomics?
In-Reply-To: <eoo7ip+gcoj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eoor6k+7f42@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "entropymail"
<entropymail at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, kemper mentor
> <kempermentor@> wrote:
> >   Fanfics are popular, but are there any fancomics for HP?  Either
> theirs or their interpretation of one or all of the book?
> >    
> >   Thanks!


Repost:   

Here's a site of really nice HP comics, but they are all Japanese
(doujinshi). Don't know if that would count...

http://www.fuuko.com/doujinshi/

:: Entropy ::
visit my Etsy Shop at www.SugarcubeDesign.etsy.com






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 19 18:28:46 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:28:46 -0000
Subject: Severus Snape: Friend or foe? Borders Books discussion
Message-ID: <eor2ku+l7o4@eGroups.com>

Borders Books has posted a set of questions relating to Snape's
motives (e.g., "why did Snape spare Harry's life in 'Half-Blood
Prince'?) If anyone is interested in joining the discussion or just
checking out the questions and responses, the link is 

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976875935

And be sure to check out the cover design for DH (obviously not the
real cover) with a dual image of Snape as drawn by Mary Grandpre for
"Flight of the Prince" in HBP: 

http://www.gather.com/viewImage.jsp?fileId=3096224744001651&articleId=281474976875935

Not at all the way I envision Snape but still fun.

Carol, glad to see Borders raising awareness of Snape's ambiguity




From snapes_witch at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 20 19:50:31 2007
From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:50:31 -0000
Subject: Severus Snape: Friend or foe? Borders Books discussion
In-Reply-To: <eor2ku+l7o4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eotrq7+on9j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> And be sure to check out the cover design for DH (obviously not the
> real cover) with a dual image of Snape as drawn by Mary Grandpre for
> "Flight of the Prince" in HBP: 
> 
> http://www.gather.com/viewImage.jsp?
fileId=3096224744001651&articleId=281474976875935
> 
> Not at all the way I envision Snape but still fun.
> 
> Carol, glad to see Borders raising awareness of Snape's ambiguity
>

I really dislike (Mum told me never to say 'hate') Grandpere's 
illustrations, and not just her interpretation of Snape (a beard?!). 
She's still drawing the almost adult HRH as little kids.  What's up 
with that?

Snape's Witch





From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jan 20 22:13:56 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:13:56 -0000
Subject: Book for Kids Blog
Message-ID: <eou474+dhgu@eGroups.com>

I just found a blog by a retired librarian (who goes by the name of 
GTC) offering recommendations in the realm of children's literature. Of 
particular interest to readers of this group is the entry for 1-15-
07, "While You're Waiting for Harry Potter..."  Many of the 
recommendations are unfamiliar to me and sound quite interesting!

http://booksforkidsblog.blogspot.com/

    - CMC




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Date: 21 Jan 2007 16:45:50 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/21/2007, 11:00 am 
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From lalasroom at aol.com  Sun Jan 21 16:26:00 2007
From: lalasroom at aol.com (Yolanda)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:26:00 -0000
Subject: Book for Kids Blog
In-Reply-To: <eou474+dhgu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ep046o+636p@eGroups.com>


Hello! This is my first post. I am the grandmother of 7. I have 
enjoyed all of the Harry Potter Audio Books and Movies with my 
grands. I think the reader of the HP audio series is superb. Jim Dale 
makes the HP books come to life. While we have been waiting for the 
new book, we discovered a new book series he reads. It is called 
Peter and the Starcatchers & Peter and the Shadow Thieves by Dave 
Barry and Ridely Pearson. Jim Dale reads the audio.  Check it out 
here:

http://www.peterandthestarcatchers.com/

~Lala~ ^^?^^ ^^?^^ 


Yesterday is the past Tomorrow is the future Today is a "Gift" That 
is why it
is called the "Present"

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Caius Marcius" 
<coriolan at ...> wrote:
>
> I just found a blog by a retired librarian (who goes by the name of 
> GTC) offering recommendations in the realm of children's 
literature. Of 
> particular interest to readers of this group is the entry for 1-15-
> 07, "While You're Waiting for Harry Potter..."  Many of the 
> recommendations are unfamiliar to me and sound quite interesting!
> 
> http://booksforkidsblog.blogspot.com/
> 
>     - CMC
>





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jan 21 23:13:56 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:13:56 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book for Kids Blog
In-Reply-To: <eou474+dhgu@eGroups.com>
References: <eou474+dhgu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c73db1$d38d5870$67a4a8c0@rosie>

I love the Duane series!  Wonderful books.

Another good couple of books is Edmund Ormondroid's "Time At The Top" and
"All In Good Time."  A young girl, probably pre-teen, is given a reward for
doing a good deed which involves a bit of travel back in time, helping a
family, finding a treasure, etc.  Very nicely written, and the author slides
himself into the books (particularly the second one) as mostly an
observer/neighbor.

Cheers, and may those of us whose toeses are cold find a warm place and a
good book.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jan 22 20:24:43 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:24:43 -0000
Subject: Snow Cake (really OT)
Message-ID: <ep36ib+8r40@eGroups.com>

Has anyone seen the movie Snow Cake? 

Has anyone in the US seen it?

Alan Rickman and Sigourney (sp) Weaver are in it. SW plays an autistic 
woman. I expected it to open in Dec, but I haven't seen anything about 
it here.

Potioncat




From taguem at jmsearch.com  Mon Jan 22 21:13:41 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:13:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Snow Cake (really OT)
In-Reply-To: <ep36ib+8r40@eGroups.com>
References: <ep36ib+8r40@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <044301c73e6a$35b79e30$4246dfdf@MichelleT>

No, haven't seen it...but just went to find the preview....wow that looks
good... 
 
Thanks for the tip...OT or not!
 
Michelle, inPA 

  _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of potioncat
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:25 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Snow Cake (really OT)



Has anyone seen the movie Snow Cake? 

Has anyone in the US seen it?

Alan Rickman and Sigourney (sp) Weaver are in it. SW plays an autistic 
woman. I expected it to open in Dec, but I haven't seen anything about 
it here.

Potioncat



 


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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 23 00:10:35 2007
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Snow Cake (really OT)
In-Reply-To: <ep36ib+8r40@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <456027.69520.qm@web56015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


--- potioncat <willsonkmom at msn.com> wrote:

> Has anyone seen the movie Snow Cake? 
> 
> Has anyone in the US seen it?
> 
> Alan Rickman and Sigourney (sp) Weaver are in it. SW
> plays an autistic 
> woman. I expected it to open in Dec, but I haven't
> seen anything about 
> it here.
> 
Sheryll:

*raises hand*

Yes, I saw it and it was fantastic. It played at our
independent theatre here, so that may well be the case
in other cities as well. I think it ran one show a day
for about 2 weeks here (the theatre runs 2 movie
showings a day on weekdays, 4 on Saturday and Sunday).

I definitely think it's worth seeing if the
opportunity arises!

Sheryll

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From emmaejones at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 00:18:34 2007
From: emmaejones at gmail.com (cassyvablatsky)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:18:34 -0000
Subject: Book 7 'synopsis' now online! (Includes HBP Spoilers)
Message-ID: <ep3k8q+mfdb@eGroups.com>

Forgive the shameless self-promotion, I just thought I'd introduce my
site - the first (I think!) attempt at a fan 'synopsis' of book 7
(textual evidence included), based on omens and portents in the earlier
books, teasers from JKR and discussions within the fandom as a whole.

For fellow Potterites, I hope that my ramblings will be of interest,
beyond the pleasures of fan fiction, as an invitation to explore some
of the septology riddles from an unusual angle.

Please do check it out and let me know what you think - it's written
with discussion in mind and I'd really value some expert opinions!

http://book7.co.uk/

Thanks,
Cassandra Vablatsky (alias) 




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 23 21:52:26 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:52:26 -0000
Subject: More Book Recommendations
Message-ID: <ep602r+76t5@eGroups.com>

As you know I bought some books recently at a bookstore
that was closing out, and the books I bought turned out
to be a treasure trove.

The first -

"The Last Days of Summer" by Steve Kluger

I have already written about it -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/31423

Definitely a fun and funny book that despite some course
language could be enjoyed by anyone 13 and older.


Next we have -

"Toast" By Nigel Slater

"Toast" is an autobiographical book where the life of a 
boy as he grows into a man is told in the framework of the
nostalgic foods that permeated his life.

Here is an excerpt that I found touching -

"It is impossible not to love someone who makes toast for
you. People's failings, even major ones such as when they
make you wear short trousers to school, fall into 
insignificants as your teeth break through the rough,
toasted crust and sink into the doughy cushion of white
bread underneath. Once the warm, salty butter has hit
your tongue, you are smitten. Putty in their hands."

The book is a bit brawdy in spots, so I wouldn't recommend
it to any below later teenage. Still, it is a wonderfully 
captivating story, and a reminder that the best spice for
any food is a heaping helping of nostalgia.


"Millions" by Frank Cottrell Boyce

This book was made into a movie by the same name, if you
haven't seen the movie, and you would like to see a good
heartwarming film about family life, this is it.

The book is even better than the movie and a fun read for
all ages. 

A young boy who is obssessed with Saints, and his father
and brother move to a new house after the death of the 
mother. The father stresses to his boys that they need
to be 'excellent' and Damian takes the idea a little 
too literally. 

Using the old boxes from their move, he builds himself
a saintly hermitage, just beyond the shrubs that hide 
his neighborhood from the railroad tracks. One night
after offerring a short prayer in the name of his 
mother, and as a train is rumbling past, something 
lands on his hermitage crushing it. He discovers that
it is a very large bag filled with money. 

Yes, that might sound a little hokey, but the characters
especially the boys, really make the concept work. This
book has been around for a long time, so I'm sure you 
can by it cheap or borrow it from a library. It makes
for a very pleasant and enjoyable read.


Finally -

"The Book of Lost Things" by John Connolly
($16 Amazon, $14 Walmart)

>From the jacket cover -

"High in his attic bedroom, twelve-year-old David mourns
the death of his mother. He is angry and alone, with only
the books on his shelf for company. But those books have
begun to whisper to him in the darkness, and as he takes
refuge in his imagination, he finds that reality and 
fantasy have begun to meld. While his family falls apart
around him, David is violently propelled into a land that
is a reflection of his own world, populated by heroes and
monsters, and ruled over by a faded king who keeps his 
secrets in a mysterious book ... 'The Book of Lost Things'."

This is a wonderful book for anyone of any age. It is at
once a heartwarming and heartbreaking family story, but 
also is a fairytale, an epic adventure, a heroes quest, 
a coming of age, and more. 

Note this book is not marketed to young readers, though
it is appropraite for most. There are a couple of very
vague references to sex, but only in the form of what
parents do late at night when they think their kids are
sleeping. I'm sure any normal kid age 10 or older will
be able to read it and keep it in perspective. For more
naive kids under 10, the parent may want to read it 
first. Though, I must say, parents should read it in
any case, as they will certainly enjoy it.

As I read, I was sure I could predict where the book was 
going and how it would end, and to a limited extent I was
right, but the last chapters also held many revelations 
that I had not and could not have predicted. In some 
sense, this is a very melancholy story, but in another 
sense, it is the story of all stories, just as any great
story should be.

Here is a excerpt for the book that I found especially 
touching -

"Before she became ill, David's mother would often tell
him that stories were alive. They weren't alive in the 
way that people were alive, or even dogs and cats. People
were alive whether you chose to notice them or not, while
dogs tended to make you notice them if they decided that 
you weren't paying them enough attention. Cats, meanwhile,
were very good at pretending people didn't exist at all 
when it suited them, but that was another matter entirely."

"Stories were different, though: they came alive in the
telling. Without a human voice to read them aloud, or a
pair of wide eyes following them by flashlight beneath
the blankets, they had no real existence in our world.
They were like seeds in the beak of a bird, waiting
to fall to earth, or the notes of a song laid out on a 
sheet, yearning for an instrument to bring their music 
into being. They lay dormant, hoping for the chance to 
emerge. Once someone started to read them, they could
begin to change. They could take root in the imagination,
and transform the reader. Stories /wanted/ to be read,
David's mother would whisper. They needed it. It was
the reason they forced themselves from their world into
ours. They wanted us to give them life."

If you can relate to that, then you have grasped the 
heart of this story. 

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 23 22:20:48 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:20:48 -0000
Subject: More Book Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <ep602r+76t5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ep61o0+j962@eGroups.com>

--- "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

> Finally -
> 
> "The Book of Lost Things" by John Connolly
> ($16 Amazon, $14 Walmart)
> 
> ...
> 
> Note this book is not marketed to young readers, though
> it is appropraite for most. There are a couple of very
> vague references to sex, but only in the form of what
> parents do late at night when they think their kids are
> sleeping. I'm sure any normal kid age 10 or older will
> be able to read it and keep it in perspective. For more
> naive kids under 10, the parent may want to read it 
> first. Though, I must say, parents should read it in
> any case, as they will certainly enjoy it.
> 
> ...

bboyminn:

Sorry about replying to my own post, but I was reading
reader reviews of this book at Amazon,... 

http://www.amazon.com/Book-Lost-Things-Novel/dp/0743298853/sr=8-1/qid=1169587631/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9172479-1396869?ie=UTF8&s=books

...and perhaps I have underestimated the darkness and
adult nature of this book. I still stand by what I said
though. But, perhaps I should qualify my statements. 
While this book does touch on some adult subjects like
sex and homosexuality, it does so with the very lightest
of hands, and in ways appropriate to the story. 

This book is dark in the way the Grimm's Fairytales are
dark. It is definitely not the Disney-fied version of
events. In Grimm's fairytales the wicked step-mother has
red hot iron shoes placed on her feet and she dances 
until she is dead. You definitely won't see that in the
Disney version.

While there are delicate subjects and dark events, as I 
said they are handled with a light, gentle, and sensitive
hand. I still stand by what I said, any /normal/ kid age
10 and over will have no problems relating to this story,
and keeping the events in prespective. Any parent who 
might be in doubt, should read the book first. I am quite
sure that if you have any interest in the fantasy genre, 
you will love this story, and will have no problem letting
you /normal/ (age appropriate) kids read it. 

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn




From predigirl1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 24 05:26:26 2007
From: predigirl1 at yahoo.com (Alex Hogan)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:26:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Snow Cake (really OT)
In-Reply-To: <044301c73e6a$35b79e30$4246dfdf@MichelleT>
Message-ID: <242892.71585.qm@web37701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for this movie to come out! Last I heard it will be in May.
  Keeping fingers crossed!
   
  Alex Hogan 
         


 
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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Wed Jan 24 18:06:58 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:06:58 EST
Subject: More Book Recommendations
Message-ID: <d58.a12c27.32e8fa42@aol.com>

Hi, Steve!
 
Thanks for your list of books. I was lucky and all of them are available  
from my local library. Some have longish waiting lists, but many are available  
today. 
 
I've always enjoyed your messages and appreciate your insight in life,  
books, and Harry Potter!
 
---Mary


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From cdayr at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 25 01:19:15 2007
From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:19:15 -0000
Subject: Conference experiences?
Message-ID: <ep90ij+qmeb@eGroups.com>

Help! I need your thoughts to help me make a decision...
I am thinking about vacationing in Britain this summer (I'm in 
Seattle, WA usually) and was just browsing the Sectus conference home 
page. I have never attended an HP conference of any type before, and 
wondered if any of you would be willing to share your thoughts on the 
conference experience. Basically I want to decide if I should try to 
schedule my trip so that I could attend...and I trust this group to 
have had a variety of experiences for me to think about! I'd love a 
general picture of what some of you have found at conferences so I can 
decide. 

Thanks so much,
CDR




From hallie at thephoenixrises.org  Fri Jan 26 00:36:32 2007
From: hallie at thephoenixrises.org (Hallie Tibbetts)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:36:32 -0000
Subject: Conference experiences?
In-Reply-To: <ep90ij+qmeb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <epbieg+opai@eGroups.com>

Hi, CDR!

You know, I think the one thing you can say is that there are some
similarities between the various conferences out there, but that no
two are ever exactly alike. I think, too, that they're all what you
make of them--how involved you are in the discussions, whether you
participate in informal events, and whether or not you can make a
journey of it by getting to know people online beforehand and in
person at the conference. I tend to prefer to volunteer, personally,
because I find myself at loose ends when I don't have work to do!

Most conferences with international attendees run from 3-5 days. Your
registration usually provides you with full access to programming such
as lectures and panels presented by fans from all walks of life, and
the conferences might arrange for special additional cost events for
luncheons with guest speakers or other activities that are part of the
conference, but that might not have room for everyone. Most
conferences incorporate activites that are lighthearted as well, such
as games, screenings of the films, and gatherings. All of the
conferences that I've known about incorporate elements of the books.

Really, from there, you can choose your own adventure. Are you most
interested in hearing a college professor talk about how Harry Potter
fits into the big picture of all literature, or talking about how
Harry Potter fits into one fanfic community's writing? Do you want to
chat informally with other Hufflepuff fans in the hall until 3 a.m.,
or would you rather join a group to toss the Quaffle around? Looking
at a conference's website and schedule can give you a snapshot of what
your experience might be like.

Cheers,

Hallie

Hallie Tibbetts
Lead Event Organizer - Phoenix Rising
May 17-21, 2007 - New Orleans
www.thephoenixrises.org

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From entropymail at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 26 18:25:08 2007
From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:25:08 -0000
Subject: More Book Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <ep602r+76t5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <epdh24+tmv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> As you know I bought some books recently at a bookstore
> that was closing out, and the books I bought turned out
> to be a treasure trove.
> 
> The first -
> 

This is a nice idea. I know my son and I are always looking for
something new to read; preferably something we can both read. Since we
know we all have at least *one* book genre in common, perhaps we could
start some sort of a database or something with recommendations of
books we've read and a short blurb about them.

Just a thought!

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From lilandriss at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 28 08:05:19 2007
From: lilandriss at yahoo.com (lilandriss)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:05:19 -0000
Subject: Fic search
Message-ID: <ephlfv+70m0@eGroups.com>

Hello all! Just joined up cause I'm going crazy looking for a couple 
of fics that I read some time ago and can't remember much of. I've 
read too many fics. Anyway, the one scene that I can remember 
involves Dumbledore challenging Harry to a friendly duel which I 
think took place in the Great Hall. I can't remember who won, but I 
do know that Harry gave him a good run for his money. 

The second fic: Hagrid, for care of magical creatures, had brought 
in these puff balls that imitate everything they hear. It was 
absolutely adorable. There were also two dragons being kept in i 
think it was the astronomey tower or something. 

Any of these ring any bells? I'm pretty sure they were located on 
this site here: http://www.harrypotterfanfiction.com/

Oh! And while I'm here, I may as well ask this too. Anyone here do 
beta work? 

lanna :) 





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jan 28 16:47:18 2007
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 28 Jan 2007 16:47:18 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/28/2007, 11:00 am 
Message-ID: <1170002838.26.76250.m44@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Notes:
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Weekly Chat
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From daniel_337 at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Jan 29 10:18:00 2007
From: daniel_337 at hotmail.co.uk (dorton_1969)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:18:00 -0000
Subject: Hi there
Message-ID: <epkhko+96kp@eGroups.com>

Been a member for a while now, but never actually posted anything.

Hope you all keep me informed about Harry Potter (I like number 2
the best).

I look forward to reading more messages.

Daniel




From jmgrogue at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 30 00:33:13 2007
From: jmgrogue at yahoo.com (jmgrogue)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:33:13 -0000
Subject: www.myfandoms.com is hosting a Harry Potter contest!
Message-ID: <epm3o9+pukr@eGroups.com>

Hi Y'all

I know I'm totally new to the group, but I wanna tell you guys about
this really cool contest that is about to end.  The site is
www.myfandoms.com and they are a myspace-type site that is giving away
a Harry Potter, Alias or Xena:Warrior Princess signed script for doing
up your home page.  They let you create your own sites, load fan art,
fan photos and have a ton of Fan Fiction and its growing every day! 
Just thought you'd wanna check it out!  

Rock on dot com

JadedRogue

www.myfandoms.com 

www.lulu.com/janm-jadedrogue



This is the latest contest, it's fun!

Yeah, yeah, we know it's soooo easy to just cruise the site, read fan
fic, and leave that ol' profile page naked and lonely. SO, how about a
little motivation?  

We're going to give away autographed scripts to the coolest looking
profile page! The contest is now open and closes February 4 at
midnight, EST. The winner will get *their choice* of the following:
?	Alias Episode 1.03, "Parity" signed by Jennifer Garner, Ron Rifkin,
Michael Vartan and Bradley Cooper!
?	"Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" autographed by Daniel
Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, & Emma Watson!
?	Xena
: Warrior Princess Episode 1.22 , "Calisto" autographed by Lucy Lawless!

The site admins will be the judges. What are we looking for? Pretty
pages with lots of content that is readable but not just the default
layout that comes with your profile.

If you want to participate, simply:

1) Decorate your profile page
2) Post the link to your profile page here in this forum before Feb 4
at midnight, EST, and you're in the contest!






From daniel_337 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 10:32:36 2007
From: daniel_337 at hotmail.co.uk (dorton_1969)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:32:36 -0000
Subject: www.myfandoms.com is hosting a Harry Potter contest!
In-Reply-To: <epm3o9+pukr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <epn6s4+o3al@eGroups.com>


"jmgrogue" <jmgrogue at ...> wrote:
> I wanna tell you guys about this really cool contest that is
> about to end. <snip>
>
> This is the latest contest, it's fun!
> <snip>
>
> If you want to participate, simply:
>
> 1) Decorate your profile page
> 2) Post the link to your profile page here in this forum before
> Feb 4 at midnight, EST, and you're in the contest!


Awesomeness.

I'm in.

When is it meant to finish?

Daniel



From oscarjames2000 at yahoo.com.mx  Tue Jan 30 20:47:27 2007
From: oscarjames2000 at yahoo.com.mx (oscarjames2000)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:47:27 -0000
Subject: hello everybody!!!
Message-ID: <epoasv+3eub@eGroups.com>

hello everybody!!!

i?m new in your forum. i?m a big fan of harry potter. i would like to 

know more fans,  to talk and share information about the movie, book
and cast.

this is my msn : lgneri at hotmail.com

good luck

bye




From drednort at alphalink.com.au  Wed Jan 31 09:09:06 2007
From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:09:06 +1100
Subject: Inventor of chocolate frog dies
In-Reply-To: <epoasv+3eub@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <45C0F762.31646.6204306@drednort.alphalink.com.au>

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21144679-2862,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/2l7eqa

Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
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thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the 
facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be 
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