From blue_dragon_53 at yahoo.com.au  Sun Jul  1 01:10:06 2007
From: blue_dragon_53 at yahoo.com.au (blue dragon)
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 01:10:06 -0000
Subject: UK v US language difficulties reply to post from MAIN
In-Reply-To: <f66d6u+3g7i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f66ute+ccql@eGroups.com>

Lee:

I have a friend who had a British co-worker who called that garment
with long legs on it "Striders."  What be the dif between striders and
trousers?

Geoff:

Well, as a UK English native speaker, I've never heard of Striders.....

Blue Dragon:

I'm Australian, and men's trousers here have been known as "strides".
This may not necessarily be the case nowadays, but I remember my
brother calling them "strides" several years ago.




From bumbledor at comcast.net  Sun Jul  1 02:59:36 2007
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:59:36 -0400
Subject: chat room question
Message-ID: <000e01c7bb8b$dc3c0e00$6401a8c0@bumbledor>

Now that yahoo has totaly removed the Harry Potter voice chat room,
does anyone know of any chat program where there IS a HP voice chat room? 
And one where adults can go and discuss HP?


Thanks.


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From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul  1 04:16:26 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:16:26 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: UK v US language difficulties reply to
 post from MAIN
In-Reply-To: <f66ute+ccql@eGroups.com>
References: <f66ute+ccql@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <46872A9A.50304@internode.on.net>


> I'm Australian, and men's trousers here have been known as "strides". 
> This may not necessarily be the case nowadays, but I remember my 
> brother calling them "strides" several years ago.

My Dad would.

Strides is merely slang for pants, not a real word as such.

Like "budgie smugglers" is slang for a type of mens underwear.
[think about it]

Wolfie!



From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Jul  1 06:20:11 2007
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:20:11 -0000
Subject: UK v US language difficulties reply to post from MAIN
In-Reply-To: <46872A9A.50304@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <f67h2r+fjnn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Wolfie!" <wuff at ...> wrote:
>
> Like "budgie smugglers" is slang for a type of mens underwear.
> [think about it]

I had to look it up. If one actually wanted to SMUGGLE budgies, i.e.
transport them secretly, then large and baggy shorts would be best.




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul  1 15:45:48 2007
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Date: 1 Jul 2007 15:45:48 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 7/1/2007, 11:00 am 
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From deathmarkdave at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  2 13:06:45 2007
From: deathmarkdave at yahoo.com (Timothy R. O'Donnell)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:06:45 -0000
Subject: Chapter 10 - The Quibbage Match
Message-ID: <f6at95+2pl4@eGroups.com>

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you all know that Chapter 10 of my free audio
(.mp3) podcast is now available at: http://www.harry-putter.podshow.com

I'd love to hear your comments about it.

Thanks,

tim




From Mhochberg at aol.com  Mon Jul  2 19:08:15 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:08:15 EDT
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
Message-ID: <cb7.107841f3.33baa71f@aol.com>

Eggplant writes:
So now what are you going to  do? I've heard some say they will turn to the 
last page before they even  walk
out of the store, in effect they intend to read the book backwards. As  for 
me I think I'll read it forward. I'm not even going to read the table of  
contents in the beginning of the book because I have a hunch (it's just a hunch)  
one of the last chapter titles will be "The Man Who Died" or "The Next Great  
Adventure". I could be wrong.  
~~~~~
Mary writes:
I finally decided how I am going to handle it. Since I am buying the audio  
book too, I am going to set up a comfy spot, with drinks and a  simple afghan 
to crochet, and LISTEN to the book. Maybe I will switch to  the exercise bike 
when things get tense but no TV, radio, newspaper, phone  calls, or Internet 
until I have listened to the whole thing.
 
I made the mistake of rushing through one of the books before and I plan to  
savor this one. Listening to the book will force me to go much slower than  
reading it myself.
 
---Mary



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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Mon Jul  2 19:10:22 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 15:10:22 EDT
Subject: Well I just had a thought...
Message-ID: <c97.1349a109.33baa79e@aol.com>

Doddie wrote:
I attended the Pottercast in Thousand Oaks, CA this past  weekend
 
~~~~~
Mary wrote: 
What was it like in person? I've listened to some of the ones from their  
tour and plan to attend the nearby one next weekend.
 
Thanks!
 
---Mary





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From random832 at fastmail.us  Mon Jul  2 20:26:02 2007
From: random832 at fastmail.us (random832 at fastmail.us)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:26:02 -0400
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Is Harry Potter the Son of God?
In-Reply-To: <f6bi5p+n2jk@eGroups.com>
References: <f6bi5p+n2jk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1183407962.10705.1198164811@webmail.messagingengine.com>

[moved to OTChatter, CC-ing in case you're not subscribed to there]
> Ken:
> I am a little curious as to what you perceive as the incredible
> differences between evangelical and other Christians.

As with too many groups, the public face is the extreme branch. People
who say that America deserved 9-11, that New Orleans deserved Katrina,
people who run websites like www.godhates***s.com [what is censored is a
derogatory word for homosexuality], who refuse to allow evolution to be
taught in schools, etc. If actual mainstream evangelicals, baptists,
etc, don't speak up, this is what the rest of us hear from those
claiming to be of the same religion as you.

That's what people see. That's what people fear.
-- 
Random832




From sistermagpie at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  2 20:39:34 2007
From: sistermagpie at earthlink.net (sistermagpie)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:39:34 -0000
Subject: Philosophers Stone (was UK v US language difficulties reply to post from MAIN
In-Reply-To: <f66jn6+vrdr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6bnq6+niat@eGroups.com>

Magpie:
> << I must say, though, Mike Smith recently had a great defense of 
the 
> use "Sorcerer's Stone." As a chemist he knows what the 
Philosopher's 
> Stone is perfectly well, >>

Catlady:
> 
> Do chemists (the scientists, not the pharmacists) all know all 
about
> the Philosopher's Stone? 

Magpie:
He knew about alchemy as basically part of the pre-history of his 
profession. 

Magpie:
> << and actually did a fascinating post explaining the understanding
> about the world it came from. >>

Catlady:
> 
> Link? Repost here?

Magpie:
It's part of his read of Philosopher's Stone here:

http://mike-smith.livejournal.com/150217.html#cutid1

I'm glad to hear somebody defend it, even though I myself have the 
UK editions and usually say PS instead of SS, because I'm sick of 
claims that it's got something to do with Americans being dumb or 
publishers thinking they're dumb or trying to keep them dumb.

Catlady:
> But I heard someone, I think John Granger, say that Arthur Levine
> changed the title because he is a markettng genius and knew that 
any
> children's book with the word 'sorcerer' in the title would stir 
up a
> lot of pressure groups calling, sight unseen, for the book to be
> suppressed for being Satanic.

Magpie:
I can't speak for Arthur, but having worked for him in the past I 
can't imagine him sitting down and saying, "Hey, here's a great 
idea. If we put Sorcerer in the title groups will suppress it!" I 
also don't agree that any book with Sorcerer in the title would be 
suppressed. The fear these books cause grows with their popularity. 

I think they just wanted something magical in the title to show the 
book had magic in it.

Magpie:
>  
> << He thought that since usually the Muggle Words we know are 
slightly
> wrong, there was nothing "dumb" about the stone really being called
> something else, or having had a name change in the WW over the 
years.
>  After all, in the WW the word philosopher isn't used the same way 
it
> was used back then either. >>
> 
> In the WW, or in the RW? I don't recall canon for the word
> 'philosopher' being used at all in the RW.

Magpie:
Didn't get what you said there. What I meant was that when the 
term "Philosopher's Stone" was coined the word "philosophy" covered 
science and magic, where today it doesn't. We don't hear Wizards 
describing themselves as studying "Philosophy" at Hogwarts--I would 
guess if they used the word philosophy they'd probably use it the 
same way we in the RW use it in modern times.

-m





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 04:40:06 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:40:06 -0000
Subject: Folk in Europe and America: punctuation in quotations?
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400706260859y3339a1bfhb8c685341d7bc52b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6cjv6+10209@eGroups.com>

Dina Lerret wrote:
>
> As a follow-up to the whole 'make your post legible' bit, I'm
noticing a trend in fanfic where writers aren't including 'concluding'
punctuation like a comma or period.  I've seen exclamation and
question marks, but the commas and periods are disappearing.  This
tendency is more prevalent among European fans, including the UK.  For
example, a UK fanfic writer, Annie:
> 
> "Hey" Jensen opened one eye and grabbed the hand stroking his face
> "You are looking better"
> 
> 
> It's not just her; I'm encountering this among a variety of writers.
> She uses periods and commas elsewhere but not in quotations.  I know
> grammar differs in various countries and America may have its own
> 'bastardized' version of English, but I thought, at least, the UK
> didn't completely drop commas and periods in their quotes?  Is this
> trait something new or something older?  I was in high school during
> the early to mid 90s and that was the last of my formal education
> (college dropout).
> 
> I'm asking because I proofread over fics--you could say I'm a 'fic
intake' person for a site, which is ironic considered I nearly failed
grammar in school--and I do begin to wonder about these things.  It's
possible to say humans are lemmings by nature: we're taught to follow
by example.  So, if readers see writers drop punctuation and then they
become writers, it's likely some of them will pick up that habit as well.
> 
> Dina
>

Carol responds:
If I find missing punctuation on any of the manuscripts submitted to
me for copyediting, I'll supply it. As far as I'm concerned, the
sentence you quoted contains a triple punctuation error (not to
mention that "you are" rather than "you're" is too pompous for
dialogue and should be changed. Of course, I don't deal in fanfic!

Carol, reminding Dina of what happens to lemmings, at least according
to folklore, and hoping she won't become one :-)




From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  3 11:43:01 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:43:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <cb7.107841f3.33baa71f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY138-F35C2BD3EB8DFC112F9DAC8B20C0@phx.gbl>


>Eggplant writes:
>So now what are you going to  do? I've heard some say they will turn to the
>last page before they even  walk
>out of the store, in effect they intend to read the book backwards. As  for
>me I think I'll read it forward. I'm not even going to read the table of
>contents in the beginning of the book because I have a hunch (it's just a 
>hunch)
>one of the last chapter titles will be "The Man Who Died" or "The Next 
>Great
>Adventure". I could be wrong.

I'm going to read the end first because I'll rush through it, just to see 
what happens, if I don't. I rushed through HBP then was too shaken up by the 
death and funeral scenes to go back and reread it for a long time (over a 
year). That was about the first time I'd read something straight through, so 
I learned my lesson!

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From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul  3 14:07:59 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:07:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Folk in Europe and America: punctuation in
 quotations?
In-Reply-To: <f6cjv6+10209@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002401c7bd7b$90361900$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>

[Justcarol]:
| As far as I'm concerned, the
| sentence you quoted contains a triple punctuation error (not to
| mention that "you are" rather than "you're" is too pompous for
| dialogue and should be changed. Of course, I don't deal in fanfic!

[Lee]:
Ah, but the "you are" might be character style, too.  For example, if
someone was writing a fanfic about the character of Data in Star Trek Next
Gen, the character doesn't use contractions, so "you're" would be out of
character.  It's important, IMHO, to know the context and style.

Cheers,

Lee :-)
(Who has done some fanfic for Galactica 1980.) :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 21:50:31 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:50:31 -0000
Subject: Folk in Europe and America: punctuation in quotations?
In-Reply-To: <002401c7bd7b$90361900$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>
Message-ID: <f6egb7+5m1p@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> As far as I'm concerned, the sentence you quoted contains a triple
punctuation error (not to mention that "you are" rather than "you're"
is too pompous for dialogue and should be changed. Of course, I don't
deal in fanfic!

Lee replied:
> Ah, but the "you are" might be character style, too.  For example,
if someone was writing a fanfic about the character of Data in Star
Trek Next Gen, the character doesn't use contractions, so "you're"
would be out of character.  It's important, IMHO, to know the context
and style.

Carol again:
"Well, sure. That's a given in my line of work (copyediting). If a
character has a reason for speaking formally (English isn't his native
language or he's from another century, for example), I'd let the "you
are" stand. But for the purposes of most fanfic and for most dialogue
used by American or British characters from the twentieth or
twenty-first centuries, I would go with the contraction. Contractions
make dialogue more natural and more pleasurable to read.

Carol, who has to choose whether to retain or alter contractions or
uncontracted forms all the time and usually goes with the contractions
in dialogue




From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  4 05:01:44 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:01:44 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-F35C2BD3EB8DFC112F9DAC8B20C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <f6f9jo+eda0@eGroups.com>

"Lee Truslow" wrote:

>I'm going to read the end first

I think that is a terrible idea! This is the last time you will ever
have in your life of reading a Harry Potter book without knowing how
it ends, and you're going to throw that opportunity away. But it's
your choice; just don't tell me the ending or I will use a
unforgivable curse on you.

> I'll rush through it, just to
> see what happens, if I don't. 

I know what you're talking about, the same thing happened to me when I
was reading half blood. I was appalled when I realized how fast I was
going through it, so in a supreme act of will power I closed the book
and walked away for a few hours so I could digest what I've already
read. Reading the ending first will certainly not take all the fun out
of the book, but I would estimate it would reduce it by about 30%.

Eggplant  






From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  4 08:52:25 2007
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:52:25 -0000
Subject: Well I just had a thought...
In-Reply-To: <c97.1349a109.33baa79e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f6fn49+vrv7@eGroups.com>

 Doddie wrote:
 I attended the Pottercast in Thousand Oaks, CA this past  weekend
  
 Mary wrote: 
 What was it like in person? I've listened to some of the ones from 
their tour and plan to attend the nearby one next weekend.

 Thanks!
 ---Mary

It was great to attend in person--not so much because of the "cast" 
but because there are folks who adore the series in the audience 
from such different walks of life...most of whom are ready and 
willing to talk about the books. The reason they have their "five 
questions" is because everyone has a different theory which may be 
similar to another's but has a different nuance that can really only 
be explained face to face.

It was like taking a college/university couse on, "Comparative 
Religions"...(wow did you hear those ban folks rolling over in their 
graves LOL) Not that we had theological discussions, just that if 
there was enough cannon to prove, who are we to disagree. I think 
most folks were realived to get it out.(although I do not think most 
would but I'm a chatty person)
 
 I also enjoyed playing the quizzes(not that I went up on 
stage)..but that my kids sitting next to me were amazed at my 
answers that went well on beyond the competition.(some have read the 
books some have not)..

At the very least, I did enjoy purchasing my "Snape is Evil" pin(you 
could purchase a "snape is good pin" too..and I bought a t-shirt for 
less than $20--for both (and they don't hard press any sales either)

Although my fav was the a "Do Not Disturb" sign that hangs on the 
door knob ala JKR's website..

I may have bought one, but I like my sign better--I created 
a "potter reading obit bequeathing my last lasagne in the oven to 
them"/"I must leave the muggle world temporarily" poster that covers 
my door.lol (probably not so funny for most households but I make a 
living writing obituaries, among other things.. 

Anyhoo, go and sit in the front row, and speak up...especially if 
you have a niggling question or comment.(there were a wide range of 
ages there...from 2 to 70+, although the adults did let the kids 
compete in the competitive quizes).)

And go up to the microphone for the question/theory part because 
most younger kids that go up are trying to ask their parents' 
questions or propose their parents' theories and it always came out 
wrong. Poor kids..taking that risk and seeing the parents not 
looking back to the them but to watch their mom or dad looking at 
the back of their eyelids as they covered their face with their 
hands..so don't feel bad about saving a wee one..

DD
Make sure to have fun the hosts are great..




From swartell at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  4 14:25:35 2007
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
Message-ID: <551733.54453.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


                               "Lee Truslow" wrote:
 >I'm going to read the end first


 Eggplant wrote in reply (in part):
I think that is a terrible idea! ...Reading the ending first will certainly not take all the fun out of the book, but I would estimate it would reduce it by about 30%


Now me:
That might be true for Eggplant, but it's not true for me.  Of course I'm one of those crazy folks who will happily re-read a book I like many, many times.  Even mysteries, or books with many surprising twists in the plot, can bring me just as much pleasure the 10th time (or 20th, or 50th) as they did the first.  For me, reading is a totally immersive activity-  I become largely unaware of the outside world.  (My husband can verify this - trying to talk to me while I'm in a book is a complete waste of time.  I don't ignore him; I simply do not hear him, or process the information.  I can't read in airports, or I'd miss my flight.)  When I'm reading a well-written story, I'm so totally involved that I don't think about what I "know" is coming - that information is not part of the story at that time, so I'm not "aware" of it.  Of course, if you do manage to get my attention, I'll be able to tell you how it comes out in the end, but that's not what I'm thinking about as I go
 along.  And I think I understand exactly what Lee is talking about - if the anxiety about where you will fetch up is too great, it's harder to get involved in the process of getting there.  



I didn't read the end of Half-Blood Prince before I started (or in the middle), but I haven't decided about what I'll do with Deathly Hallows.  For me the joy is in the journey, not the destination, and so I'll do whatever I need to do to make the journey the best it can be.


Listening to the books is an entirely different kind of experience for me.  There I anticipate the next twist of plot, the next favorite phrase, the next painful truth.  I can be much more analytical about the story.  It still doesn't stop me from enjoying the repeated listenings, but it is a more distanced relationship to the story than I experience when reading.



Your mileage may vary, as they say.  There are many ways to experience the world.



Sue, waxing philosophical in Ohio

 





       
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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  4 15:04:25 2007
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:04:25 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <551733.54453.qm@web53206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f6gctp+hu1q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sue Wartell <swartell at ...> 
wrote:
>
> 
>  "Lee Truslow" wrote:
>  >I'm going to read the end first
> 
> 
>  Eggplant wrote in reply (in part):
> I think that is a terrible idea! ...Reading the ending first will 
certainly not take all the fun out of the book, but I would estimate 
it would reduce it by about 30%
> 
> 
> Sue:
> <snip> When I'm reading a well-written story, I'm so totally 
involved that I don't think about what I "know" is coming - that 
information is not part of the story at that time, so I'm not "aware" 
of it.  

Annemehr:
Hee!  Well then, you may as well *not* read the end first, right? ;)


Sue:
> I didn't read the end of Half-Blood Prince before I started (or in 
the middle), but I haven't decided about what I'll do with Deathly 
Hallows.  For me the joy is in the journey, not the destination, and 
so I'll do whatever I need to do to make the journey the best it can 
be.


Annemehr:
Sure.  As for myself, I *never* read endings first (even though, like 
you, I enjoy *re*reading my favorite books very much).  Similarly, I 
never try to find out what my presents are going to be ahead of 
time.  Just the other day, my son told me exactly where he'd stashed 
my birthday present so he could be sure I wouldn't look there.

On the other hand, I've recently come to the conclusion that for the 
end of DH it matters much, much less to me whether Harry lives or 
dies than *what JKR is communicating* by the story and its 
conclusion. This is handy, because at least the book won't 
be "ruined" for me should the life/death spoiler happen to leak.

And I've spent time in both the "Harry lives" and "Harry dies" 
camps.  From the beginning until some months after I read GoF, I 
always just assumed Harry would win - and live - in the end.  But 
then became perfectly sure that he would sacrifice his life to defeat 
LV in a way that would echo Lily's death.  I actually did my mourning 
then.  Then again, at some point between OoP and HBP I swung back to 
the "Harry lives" camp -- for no better reason than gut feeling, and 
even though I still think the ending will personify Lily's death in 
some way.

So for me, it'll be: get the book, get comfy, and read straight 
through (but not too fast; it takes me a while).

Annemehr






From spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  4 18:39:50 2007
From: spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com (dungrollin)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:39:50 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <f6gctp+hu1q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6gphm+n1r4@eGroups.com>

> Annemehr:
> Sure.  As for myself, I *never* read endings first (even though, 
like you, I enjoy *re*reading my favorite books very much).  

Dungrollin:
Yeah, me too. I figure that I'm only going to have one shot at 
reading DH without knowing the ending, so I'm going to enjoy the 
suspense! 

Annemehr:
> On the other hand, I've recently come to the conclusion that for 
the 
> end of DH it matters much, much less to me whether Harry lives or 
> dies than *what JKR is communicating* by the story and its 
> conclusion. This is handy, because at least the book won't 
> be "ruined" for me should the life/death spoiler happen to leak.

Dungrollin:
Me too again. I'll be well miffed if it turns out that either the 
character who got a reprieve or one who dies who was originally 
intended to live is Harry. So long as I can see that she'd planned it 
this way for good reason right from the beginning, I don't much mind 
either way.

Annemehr:
> So for me, it'll be: get the book, get comfy, and read straight 
> through (but not too fast; it takes me a while).

Dungrollin:
I've just booked my flight back to the UK for the 20th! Hurrah! I've 
been suffering low-level anxiety about whether I'll get back at the 
right time since we got the release date. I've also discovered that a 
shop within cycling distance is opening at midnight, and figure what 
the hell, it's the last chance, I'm going to go.

So I shall try to sleep as much as possible on the flight, touch down 
at Heathrow at four in the afternoon, make my way home in time for 
dinner, and spend the evening repairing my bike. Once I have the book 
in my overexcited sweaty little hands, I shall bomb it back home, 
make an extra large cup of tea, and install myself on the sofa with a 
packet of hobnobs. (Is one packet enough?? Should I get in a box of 
chocolates as insurance?)

Then I shall read straight through the night. I may switch from tea 
to coffee if it looks like I'll flake out before the end.

Dungrollin
Finding the anticipatory excitement difficult to bear.




From lysles3 at aol.com  Wed Jul  4 21:51:20 2007
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:51:20 EDT
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
Message-ID: <c37.15fcb0e1.33bd7058@aol.com>

"Lee Truslow" wrote:

>I'm going to read the end first


I've noticed no one has responded that they are going to get the book and  
not read it immediately. This is what I am planning to do.  I did  it with HBP 
as well.  (I did not "discover" the books until OOTP came  out.  I knew about 
them but never felt any interest to read them until I  saw in the news that 
churches were burning them and I had to see why for  myself, and, of course, fell 
in love!)
The only problem I see with saving it again is that somehow I  will find out 
whether Harry lives or dies before I decide to stop  savoring it and start 
reading it.
Of course, I knew whose deaths were coming in the other books and still  
managed.
Just for the record, I think that the initial chapter heading will be the  
final chapter heading as well.  

Y Hilaire





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From puppylove at telus.net  Thu Jul  5 01:00:43 2007
From: puppylove at telus.net (Kim)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:00:43 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
References: <c37.15fcb0e1.33bd7058@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001101c7be9f$ea49a180$4001a8c0@your4f6988d827>

Well, since I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere Canada, with no local bookstore, I've ordered my copy from amazon.ca.  We don't have Saturday mail delivery here (place is too small) so I won't even get my book until sometime the week of the 23rd.  I think I may have to crawl under a rock so I won't be spoiled!

IF I can remain spoiler free, I'll settle in with pop and snacks in my comfy chair in my library, and read front to back.  If I get spoiled - we'll, I'll probably still to the same thing! LOL

Kas

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From lysles3 at aol.com  Thu Jul  5 13:46:28 2007
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:46:28 EDT
Subject: Square spectacles?
Message-ID: <c12.198987e0.33be5034@aol.com>

 
So, I'm heading to our local comic store for a release party and I need a  
pair of square rimmed glasses for my McGonagall costume.  I have a pair of  
rectangle shaped reading glasses but, 1.)  They're rectangular, and  2.)  They're 
prescription. I can't see anything unless I slide them down my  nose and look 
over the top of them.  That's fine for the character, but  highly 
uncomfortable for me.  Does anyone know where I can purchase some  cheaply?  I looked 
everywhere last Halloween and the closest I could find  were these reading 
glasses.  Thanks in advance.
 
 
Y Hilaire






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From jenP_97 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 17:38:22 2007
From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:38:22 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <001101c7be9f$ea49a180$4001a8c0@your4f6988d827>
Message-ID: <f6jaae+50c6@eGroups.com>

Well, my sad situation is as follows.  The 21st?  It's my daughter's
birthday.  I've painfully decided (it was an easy decision, just
painful) to NOT shut myself away during her special day (she's turning
5, after all).  So, I've arranged to have my book delivered to our
friends, who are also getting a book, but this way, they'll both get
to read at the same time.  Then, when they're done, they'll drop my
book off (a day or two later), and I'll finally get my chance.

My plan in the meantime?  No computer, no tv, no newspapers, no
NOTHING.  Not even answering the phone from someone who is not aware
of my situation.

I hope I can make it!

-Jen P.




From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jul  5 18:56:18 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:56:18 EDT
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
Message-ID: <c06.1c2ad57b.33be98d2@aol.com>

Eggplant writes:
>> I'll rush through  it, just to
>> see what happens, if I don't. 

>I know what  you're talking about, the same thing happened to me when I
>was reading  half blood. I was appalled when I realized how fast I was
>going through  it, so in a supreme act of will power I closed the book
>and walked away  for a few hours so I could digest what I've already
>read. Reading the  ending first will certainly not take all the fun out
>of the book, but I  would estimate it would reduce it by about 30%.  

~~~~~
Mary writes:
That happened to me with Goblet of Fire and I really learned my lesson. I  
have been far more cautious since then, taking short breaks and even re-reading  
pages when I find myself going too fast. That is why I plan to listen to the  
book first. For the final book in the series, I don't trust myself not to 
rush.  I'll listen first and read it afterwards.
 
---Mary
 



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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Jul  5 19:29:22 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:29:22 EDT
Subject: Well I just had a thought...
Message-ID: <c27.1a3a5ce8.33bea092@aol.com>

Doddie writes:
 
It was great to attend in person--not so much because of the "cast" but  
because there are folks who adore the series in the audience from such different  
walks of life...most of whom are ready and willing to talk about the books. 
The  reason they have their "five questions" is because everyone has a different 
 theory which may be similar to another's but has a different nuance that can 
 really only be explained face to face.
...
Anyhoo, go and sit in the front row, and speak up...especially if  you have a 
niggling question or comment.(there were a wide range of ages  there...from 2 
to 70+, although the adults did let the kids compete in the  competitive 
quizes).)
 
~~~~~
Mary writes:
Thanks so much, DD! That was just what I needed to hear. I am so looking  
forward to it. I don't live in a major city but there must be lots of HP fans  
here. Last night I got to see Harry and the Potters. Last week, it was The Remus 
 Lupins and the Parselmouths. Because of the book and the movie, I knew July 
was  going to be an HP month for me but I did not expect this wealth of live 
HP  activity!
 
I brought my small cauldron with me to the last two events  and filled it 
with over-wrapped candies and buttons that I give away to the  kids and adults. 
Last night I passed out "Devilmints" from Weasley Wizard  Wheezes" (if you are 
witch or wizard, they cause you to sprout horns. Does  not work on Muggles.) 
and Drooble's Best Blowing Gum (with the note on the label  "Safe to use, NOT 
affiliated with Weasley Wizard Wheezes.").   I also  passed out "Weasley is our 
King" buttons. 
 
On so many levels, last night was a blast. Harry and the Potters  did a great 
show. It was a tiny room and they were often in with the audience.  About 2/3 
of the audience was teen/early 20 girls. There were a few younger  kids and 
the back of the room was mostly boys. There were only a few of us  over-50 fans 
but we rocked along with the rest.
 
The show with the Remus Lupins and the Parselmouths had a much more mixed  
audience. Lots of little kids for the Parselmouths. Many of them left when RL  
started and were replaced by teens and adults. I felt like I'd used a  
time-turner to take me back 35 years.
 
I bought the set of Harry and the Potters/Pottercast tour buttons and plan  
to wear them to Pottercast.
 
---Mary, enjoying life, even if she is a muggle



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From ceeeff at gmail.com  Fri Jul  6 16:10:16 2007
From: ceeeff at gmail.com (Charmed Force)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:10:16 -0000
Subject: Square spectacles?
In-Reply-To: <c12.198987e0.33be5034@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f6lph8+sp0g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, lysles3 at ... wrote:
>
>  
> So, I'm heading to our local comic store for a release party and I
need a  
> pair of square rimmed glasses for my McGonagall costume.  I have a
pair of  
> rectangle shaped reading glasses but, 1.)  They're rectangular, and
 2.)  They're 
> prescription. I can't see anything unless I slide them down my  nose
and look 
> over the top of them.  That's fine for the character, but  highly 
> uncomfortable for me.  Does anyone know where I can purchase some 
cheaply?  I looked 
> everywhere last Halloween and the closest I could find  were these
reading 
> glasses.  Thanks in advance.
>  
>  
> Y Hilaire




I actually work for an Ophthalmology center in California, and we have
a huge Optical department that carries all sorts of frames. If you go
to a similar center in your city, I'm sure you will find some for
fairly cheap. 

Or if there is a street fair of some sort around, you can find a pair
of sunglasses and replace the dark lenses with basic clear plastic ones. 

~CF~





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 20:20:40 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:20:40 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
Message-ID: <f6m86o+n1q7@eGroups.com>

Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at the main
site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and the movie list,
but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've resorted to using Bookmarks
instead.

Carol, who feels as if she has a 56-K modem rather than DSL on both
the HPfGu homepage and the Leaky Cauldron




From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 21:51:32 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:51:32 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6m86o+n1q7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6mdh4+fglk@eGroups.com>

> Carol:

> Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at 
> the main site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and 
> the movie list, but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've 
> resorted to using Bookmarks instead.

Goddlefrood:

The banners are a little slow I've found, but then I DO use a 56k 
Modem, oh well ...
 
> Carol, who feels as if she has a 56-K modem rather than DSL on both
> the HPfGu homepage and the Leaky Cauldron

Goddlefrood, who wishes he had a better service provider





From tfaucette6387 at charter.net  Fri Jul  6 22:20:33 2007
From: tfaucette6387 at charter.net (anne_t_squires)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:20:33 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6mdh4+fglk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6mf7h+p9t5@eGroups.com>


> > Carol:
> 
> > Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at 
> > the main site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and 
> > the movie list, but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've 
> > resorted to using Bookmarks instead.
> 
> Goddlefrood:
> 
> The banners are a little slow I've found, but then I DO use a 56k 
> Modem, oh well ...
>  
> > Carol, who feels as if she has a 56-K modem rather than DSL on both
> > the HPfGu homepage and the Leaky Cauldron
> 
> Goddlefrood, who wishes he had a better service provider
>
Anne Squires:

I'm not having any problems at all; but I do have a cable modem.




From olly at olly86.co.uk  Sat Jul  7 00:14:28 2007
From: olly at olly86.co.uk (Olly)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:14:28 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6mf7h+p9t5@eGroups.com>
References: <f6mf7h+p9t5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <op.tu2iyenihvfgfw@olly-desktop.domain_not_set.invalid>

>>> Carol:
>>>
>>> Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at
>>> the main site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and
>>> the movie list, but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've
>>> resorted to using Bookmarks instead.
>>
>> Goddlefrood:
>>
>> The banners are a little slow I've found, but then I DO use a 56k
>> Modem, oh well ...
>>
>>> Carol, who feels as if she has a 56-K modem rather than DSL on both
>>> the HPfGu homepage and the Leaky Cauldron
>>
>> Goddlefrood, who wishes he had a better service provider
>>
> Anne Squires:
>
> I'm not having any problems at all; but I do have a cable modem.

Olly:

It's not loading at all for me, just times out.  Ping attempts fail as  
well.

Olly, who knows his UK ISP is cheap; but also unreliable.



From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  7 02:04:52 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 02:04:52 -0000
Subject: Some News and a Harry Potter Quiz
Message-ID: <f6msc4+onkm@eGroups.com>

Goddlefrood:

There has been a rash of news stories, quite naturally in the last 
few days. Many to do with the impending film release, but also 
som relative to the books. I get a digest from The Daily Telegraph 
online (no adverse inferrences re to be drawn from that please) and 
this story was of some interest:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?
xml=/arts/2007/06/30/nosplit/bopotter130.xml&DCMP=EMC-art_06072007

They have also devised what should be a ridiculously easy quiz for 
any wanting to take it and pass some time during this anxious 
moment for many of us. That's here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?
xml=/portal/2007/07/03/nosplit/ftpotter103.xml&DCMP=EMC-art_06072007

The same online source has a HP page that is regularly updated.

Enjoy, or not, as the case may be.

Goddlefrood, who is pleased that it is 07/07/07 and that this is 
instantly understandable to all on both sides of the Atlantic, as 
well as those in the Pacific.




From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  7 03:32:11 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:32:11 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <op.tu2iyenihvfgfw@olly-desktop.domain_not_set.invalid>
Message-ID: <f6n1fr+5bha@eGroups.com>


> Carol:
>
> Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at
> the main site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and
> the movie list, but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've
> resorted to using Bookmarks instead.

KathyK:

I am also having this problem both on Main and on the Beta Group.  I
am having this problem at work, at home and at my uncle's house.  It's
been going on for days.  I am not having any such problems anywhere
else I go on the internet. Eventually, I get a few links mushed
together but it takes a long time and it doesn't look very nice.  





From mwood005 at houston.rr.com  Sat Jul  7 03:40:18 2007
From: mwood005 at houston.rr.com (melody_wood14)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 03:40:18 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6n1fr+5bha@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6n1v2+ok5r@eGroups.com>

have you tried to clear out your cookies and temp. internet files? 
This usually helps my computer run faster. Hopes this may help. 
                           --- In HPFGU-
OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "KathyK" <zanelupin at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > Carol:
> >
> > Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at
> > the main site to load? I use it as a portkey to OT Chatter and
> > the movie list, but lately it's loaded so slowly that I've
> > resorted to using Bookmarks instead.
> 
> KathyK:
> 
> I am also having this problem both on Main and on the Beta Group.  I
> am having this problem at work, at home and at my uncle's house.  
It's
> been going on for days.  I am not having any such problems anywhere
> else I go on the internet. Eventually, I get a few links mushed
> together but it takes a long time and it doesn't look very nice.
>





From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul  7 05:06:16 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:06:16 +1000
Subject: witches
In-Reply-To: <f6jaae+50c6@eGroups.com>
References: <f6jaae+50c6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <468F1F48.3080805@internode.on.net>

This is bizzare, videos of a "witch" flying on a broom in mexico.
http://www.alex76.com/2007/06/30/unidentified-flying-humanoids-filmed-over-mexican-skies/

-- 
                         Wolfie!

               Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife.

              Kookaburra Pub Owner at Eragon.
           Chief Lupine Security officer at ABC

                     ICQ - 3449014

                  Skype - Wolfie_storr

                  * Eats a kid a day *

                     Made in Eragon

               Wolfie! (c) PWTS 1986 - 2007



From celizwh at intergate.com  Sat Jul  7 21:59:07 2007
From: celizwh at intergate.com (houyhnhnm102)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:59:07 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6m86o+n1q7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6p2bb+4sef@eGroups.com>

Carol:

> Is anyone besides me having problems getting the 
> home page at the main site to load? I use it as a 
> portkey to OT Chatter and the movie list, but lately 
> it's loaded so slowly that I've resorted to using 
> Bookmarks instead.
 
> Carol, who feels as if she has a 56-K modem rather 
> than DSL on both the HPfGu homepage and the Leaky Cauldron

houyhnhnm:

My browser displays the following message when it stalls 
out trying to download hpfgu home page:
Waiting[#2} for connection to hpfgu.org.uk

I usually click the stop button after two or three 
minutes and proceed to the messages, but then I get 
the same message when I am trying to access other 
web pages (that have nothing to do with hpfgu).  
I tried deleting the cookies but it didn't 
make any difference.

houyhnhnm, who has a 5.6-K modem [sic] on good days 
but is obstinately resisting forking out the cash for broadband. 





From drdara at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 01:19:37 2007
From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 18:19:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: OOP PS2 Game
Message-ID: <173680.36704.qm@web60724.mail.yahoo.com>

Ok maybe its just me, but this game sucks so far. I hate having to use the joystick to cast spells and the darn character keeps moving even when I am not controlling the joystick, also it never aims when I want it to. Its driving me nuts and I have only been playing it for 10 mins.

Danielle


       
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From sumanisgreat at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 12:17:13 2007
From: sumanisgreat at gmail.com (Suman)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:47:13 +0530
Subject: Harry Potter Release Plans, HPearth.: July 2007, India
Message-ID: <8f38ad1c0707080517h7b16316fo68cf82cead4f994@mail.gmail.com>

*Harry Potter Release Plans, HPearth.: July 2007, India*
Finally, we give all the Indians  all the information about the two Harry
Potter releases coming this month.
**"Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix"* releases on 13th July in
India.
The movie will be released in three versions.
*Normal Edition *at all theatres!*
*DMR Edition *at IMAX Dome Theatre <http://adlabscinemas.com/> at Mumbai.*
*3D Edition* at IMAX 3D Theatre at Hyderabad <http://prasadz.com/>.

HPearth Release Plans for Phoenix Movie: Like 18th November 2005, we( Suman,
Harsh and Chaitanya) are meeting again for Phoenix movie at IMAX Dome,
Wadala, Mumbai at 10 am on 13th July 2007, for the 'first-day-first-show' of
'Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix movie; an IMAX Experience'

***"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" releases at 0601 hrs. Indian
Standard Time.
The book will be released in two editions. 'Children' and 'Adult' Differring
only in the cover and both priced at Rs.975
*CROSSWORD Kemps Corner opens earliest at 5:30 for queing up!*

*HPearth Release Plans for Deathly release Plans:Share the excitement of
queuing up for the book with me, Suman.We will talk potter and have fun! I
will be Reaching CROSSWORD Bookstore, Powai at 6:30 am on 21st July, and
queue up early because I want to get the book first! I have already
pre-ordered the book there and you can do it too there!

* All information has been verifed through official sources, their
aunthencity is double checked!
For more info on release plans, click
here<http://hpearth.com/index.php?magic=releaseplans>
contact us for anything, at hpearth at gmail.com

-- 
***Suman Barua***


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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul  8 15:43:39 2007
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 8 Jul 2007 15:43:39 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 7/8/2007, 11:00 am 
Message-ID: <1183909419.92.21923.m57@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal

Weekly Chat
Sunday July 8, 2007
11:00 am - 12:00 pm
(This event repeats every week.)
Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Notes:
Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour.

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want
to be called.

Enter the password: hpfguchat

Click "Join Chat" on the lower right.

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Date: 8 Jul 2007 17:40:57 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 7/8/2007, 1:00 pm 
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Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want
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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 18:03:01 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Movie Hermione
Message-ID: <105180.16760.qm@web90409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So, I was watching GoF in preparation for OotP.
In it, Hermione is on the verge of crying or crying.
It's ridiculous.  

My Movie-Hermione-cries prediction:
Hermione starts balling when Kreacher says something mean yet funny about her and no one hands her a tissue.

Anyone else with crying predictions?


kemper, ak-ing time


       
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From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 18:06:23 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:06:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Movie Hermione
Message-ID: <673886.8610.qm@web90412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So, I was watching GoF in preparation for OotP.
In it, Hermione is on the verge of crying or crying.
It's ridiculous.  
 
My Movie-Hermione-cries prediction:
Hermione starts bawling when Kreacher says something mean yet funny about her and no one hands her a tissue.
 
Anyone else with crying predictions?
 
 
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From sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 13:34:43 2007
From: sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com (Dondee Gorski)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:34:43 -0000
Subject: The Return of ...
Message-ID: <f6tdhj+gloe@eGroups.com>

Note: brought over from the main group

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Cassy Ferris" <xellina at ...> 
wrote:
<snip>
Now, having Voldie as a harmless bubbling
> idiot at St. Mungos would be really fun!
>

Dondee:

That would leave room for a come-back book some time in the 
future. ::cheering:: I can see it now...

"Voldimort has found his marbles... and he's pissed!" 

Comming this fall: 

Harry Potter and 
the Return of 
Lord Whatwashisname 
>From Howlongagodidthathappen

Sorry, don't have enough time to come up with a better title. Anyone 
else want to try?

Cheers, Dondee




From hpfreakazoid at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 23:45:35 2007
From: hpfreakazoid at gmail.com (Jeremiah)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:45:35 -0000
Subject: Checking Out
Message-ID: <f6uhav+cvnu@eGroups.com>

Hi all!

Well, I love this group and I love reading the posts HOWEVER...

I am checking out for a few weeks. I am doing this because everyone 
here is so awesome with their ideas and theories that I need time to 
put mine back in order before the big release.

I'll be back a week or two afterwards and hopefully I will have a few 
of you telling me how terribly wrong I have been and, maybe if I'm 
lucky, I can rely in kind. LOL.

Love you all!!!
Jeremiah




From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 04:20:39 2007
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:20:39 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6m86o+n1q7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6v1en+tnta@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone besides me having problems getting the home page at the 
main
> site to load? 

It's what happens at the premier of every book or movie...

more about lurkers than members... folks often get riled up..(even 
me )!

As closer the book realease approaches, the harder it will be to log 
on..let alone being able to post...

I hope the servers are ready(pobably not)....HP4GU will have anyone 
that has ever been a member before attempting to log in, not matter 
what....so while they are used to "Tens of thousands"...after the 
realease of the last book....they should be prepared for MILLIONS!

So I do hope they take notice of your post...

Worse yet..there will be a moratoriam on posts(how they handled it 
before...)...However not all sites designte a moratoriam...

DD






From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 05:57:14 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:57:14 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6v1en+tnta@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f6v73q+s4cj@eGroups.com>

DD:

> It's what happens at the premier of every book or movie...
> 
> more about lurkers than members... folks often get riled up..(even 
> me )!
> 
> As closer the book realease approaches, the harder it will be to log 
> on..let alone being able to post...
> 
> I hope the servers are ready(pobably not)....HP4GU will have anyone 
> that has ever been a member before attempting to log in, not matter 
> what....so while they are used to "Tens of thousands"...after the 
> realease of the last book....they should be prepared for MILLIONS!
> 
> So I do hope they take notice of your post...
> 
> Worse yet..there will be a moratoriam on posts(how they handled it 
> before...)...However not all sites designte a moratoriam...


KathyK:

HPFGU will be closed to posting from Midnight July 21 BST through 9pm
July 24 BST.  Details can be found here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/32312

The problem with the main page not loading properly is unrelated to
Yahoo!Groups and should not cause anyone difficulty logging in or
visiting the group.  Our hpfgu.org site is down temporarily and is
causing the trouble with the main HPFGU page display.  

And, ugh, millions?  I should hope not.  I think the list elves are
pretty prepared for a jump in membership and posting but millions
might cause some panic. ;)




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 17:17:29 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:17:29 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <c06.1c2ad57b.33be98d2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f70ev9+8fe6@eGroups.com>

I've already asked persmission to miss work on the 22nd. I plan to get 
my hands on the book at exactly 12:01, then I'm going to rush home and 
devour it. It took me about 7-8 hours to read HBP, I expect it'll take 
about the same amount of time to read it. I just have to know what 
happens. I'm an excellent reader, I expect to cover all details. Then 
I'm going to get some sleep, then I'll start re-reading it, slowly, 
savoring every sentence. When HBP came out I pre-ordered it in Amazon, 
I couldn't wait til Saturday morning to start reading so I bought an 
extra copy at midnight. This time I'm skipping the Amazon copy and just 
getting one at a local bookstore

Juli




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 17:58:24 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:58:24 -0000
Subject: Slow home page at HPfGu
In-Reply-To: <f6v73q+s4cj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f70hc0+qh2h@eGroups.com>

KathyK wrote:
<snip>
> The problem with the main page not loading properly is unrelated to
Yahoo!Groups and should not cause anyone difficulty logging in or
visiting the group.  Our hpfgu.org site is down temporarily and is
causing the trouble with the main HPFGU page display.  
> 
> And, ugh, millions?  I should hope not.  I think the list elves are
pretty prepared for a jump in membership and posting but millions
might cause some panic. ;)
>
Carol responds:

Thanks for the explanation, Kathy. I've been wondering for a week or
two what the problem is. (Glad to know it's not my computer!)

Carol, who has bookmarked the movie group as an interim solution 




From verosomm at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 17:49:08 2007
From: verosomm at yahoo.com (verosomm)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:49:08 -0000
Subject: What to Wear to OP film and/or DH release party
Message-ID: <f70gqk+b8nf@eGroups.com>

Hi, guys...

Just wanted to let you know that if you want something HP-esque to 
wear, but don't want to spend lots of $ and/or don't want to dress as 
a character, you can go to Target and check out their Mossimo line... 
the embroidery (on the polos at least, on the left breast, similar to 
where the Ralph Lauren polos have the polo horse) is a gryffin for men 
and boys and an owl for women and girls.  I just got my son and I some 
polos for $9.99 each.  Then I think I may iron on HP quotes on the 
back, using the Harry Potter font that's a free download on many 
websites... below's one that has it.  You can get iron-on paper at 
craft or office supply stores.

http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/harry_potter.html

Veronica




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 18:16:12 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:16:12 -0000
Subject: Maggie Smith
Message-ID: <f736pc+2qkb@eGroups.com>

Movie Spoiler..............................
.............................

Saw the movie. No scene with Maggie Smith in a wheel chair. Remember 
when we saw the pictures of her as McGongall and said "that is a scene 
from the movie"?  Well maybe it isn't. There was no scene like that in 
the movie and she wasn't in the battle of the MoM. The only scene where 
she is standing could have been a double. I think that she really is in 
a wheel chair. Anyone know anything about this or her state of health?

Tonks_op




From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Jul 11 20:46:27 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (kchuplis)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:46:27 -0000
Subject: Do any of you watch The Dresden Files?
Message-ID: <f73fj3+ltqj@eGroups.com>

I love this show and it will be a bit of a lifeline for me once Harry
Potter has concluded. If you watch it and love it like I do, please
stop by
http://home.comcast.net/~zarina43/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html

and help us get SciFi to commit to a second season.

Going to OoTP tonight. Very excited.




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 17:20:01 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:20:01 -0000
Subject: Last thirty minutes of OoP (no spoilers!)
Message-ID: <f75ns1+pfg8@eGroups.com>

I may be posting to the wrong list here, but I have a reason--I
haven't seen the film and am avoiding the movie list for fear of
spoilers (things that the film does differently from the book).

I just want to ask anyone who's seen it if it's true that the last
thirty minutes are in 3-D and whether special goggles are provided.
(Back in ancient times--the 1960s(?)--when I tried to view a movie
through goggles, they didn't fit properly over my glasses and I
couldn't see a thing.) Also, are goggles required for "the IMAX
experience" and do they fit over glasses? (I'm far-sighted, which
requires me to sit near the back of the theater, if that makes a
difference.)

Carol, hoping she doesn't sound stupid because she's not up-to-date on
film technology




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 17:47:07 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:47:07 -0000
Subject: Last thirty minutes of OoP (no spoilers!)
In-Reply-To: <f75ns1+pfg8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f75per+86n0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I may be posting to the wrong list here, but I have a reason--I
> haven't seen the film and am avoiding the movie list for fear of
> spoilers (things that the film does differently from the book).
> 
> I just want to ask anyone who's seen it if it's true that the last
> thirty minutes are in 3-D and whether special goggles are provided.
> (Back in ancient times--the 1960s(?)--when I tried to view a movie
> through goggles, they didn't fit properly over my glasses and I
> couldn't see a thing.) Also, are goggles required for "the IMAX
> experience" and do they fit over glasses? (I'm far-sighted, which
> requires me to sit near the back of the theater, if that makes a
> difference.)
> 
> Carol, hoping she doesn't sound stupid because she's not up-to-date on
> film technology
>


Alla:

I don't know if it would be shown as 3-D everywhere ( I am also not 
very technological person LOL), but definitely on IMAX it was 3D with 
galsses for the last 30 minuites or so.




From k.coble at comcast.net  Thu Jul 12 17:31:13 2007
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:31:13 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Last thirty minutes of OoP (no spoilers!)
In-Reply-To: <f75ns1+pfg8@eGroups.com>
References: <f75ns1+pfg8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <858F61CD-EAF1-47F1-B597-C6EB7D70D407@comcast.net>

The last 20 minutes are only in 3D if you pay extra to see the film  
in an iMax theatre.
They will give you special goggles which fit over glasses.

The 3D effect is cool in some places, but makes other scenes hard to  
follow.

I saw it in 3D last night, but plan to re-watch on a normal screen.

Katherine



From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 17:57:16 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:57:16 -0000
Subject: Last thirty minutes of OoP (no spoilers!)
In-Reply-To: <858F61CD-EAF1-47F1-B597-C6EB7D70D407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <f75q1s+tu7n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Katherine Coble <k.coble at ...> 
wrote:
>
> The last 20 minutes are only in 3D if you pay extra to see the film  
> in an iMax theatre.
> They will give you special goggles which fit over glasses.
> 
> The 3D effect is cool in some places, but makes other scenes hard to  
> follow.
> 
> I saw it in 3D last night, but plan to re-watch on a normal screen.
> 
>

Alla:

AHA. So it is only on IMAX. I am going to rewatch it as well, was going 
to do it regardless.

I did love 3-D, thought they made it for very appropriate moments, 
although yeah in couple of scenes, scene became bleary for me, so I had 
to take glasses off for a second.




From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 20:13:41 2007
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Photo's of Harry Potter *
Message-ID: <200707122013.l6CKDgCX007474@upsa-web110.ofoto.com>

	 

You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!


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From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 20:43:43 2007
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:43:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
Message-ID: <200707122043.l6CKhkCu014590@upsa-web110.ofoto.com>

	 

You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!


You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery!
Just click on View Photos to get started.
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signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want 
and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos.

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Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're
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From klewellen at shellworld.net  Thu Jul 12 22:14:36 2007
From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:14:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Unique offer to see OOTP in NYC for free?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707121753350.79889@server2.shellworld.net>
References: <f750vu+o8l9@eGroups.com> <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707121753350.79889@server2.shellworld.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707121807570.81496@server2.shellworld.net>


  Hi all,
  I am going to post this on the movie list as well.
  My name is Karen, and I am seeking someone in the  New York City area to 
> experience OOTP with me in a unique way.  Since the offer can only be made to 
> someone near me, I am inviting folks to write me off list rather than clutter 
> it with talk that will not interest anyone else.
  I assure you this is perfectly legal, not a spam, and I will be happy to
  treat the interested party.  Even if you have already seen the film once and
  want to see it again, that is fine too.

  Drop me a private note for more details please.

  Thanks in advance,

  Karen L






From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 22:55:39 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:55:39 -0000
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
In-Reply-To: <200707122043.l6CKhkCu014590@upsa-web110.ofoto.com>
Message-ID: <f76bhb+7g0q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, gwharrison53 at ... wrote:
>
> 	 
> 
> You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery.
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK 
> EASYSHARE Gallery!
> Just click on View Photos to get started.
> ...
> If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or
> if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've 
> signed in, you'll be able to view this album ....

So, Harrison, bucking for a little commission are we? 

My sister and my niece both have Kodak Easyshare accounts, and I don't
need to join to view their photos.

So, you either don't know how to use Easyshare, or there is something
in it for you. Especially since you seem to flood all the groups I'm
in with 'invitations'.

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Fri Jul 13 01:07:20 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:07:20 -0000
Subject: Maggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <f736pc+2qkb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f76j88+a5rn@eGroups.com>

"Tonks" 
 
> Saw the movie. No scene with Maggie Smith in a wheel chair. Remember 
> when we saw the pictures of her as McGongall and said "that is a 
scene 
> from the movie"?  Well maybe it isn't. There was no scene like that 
in 
> the movie and she wasn't in the battle of the MoM. The only scene 
where 
> she is standing could have been a double. I think that she really is 
in 
> a wheel chair. Anyone know anything about this or her state of health?


Potioncat:
I remember that picture. And if my memory doesn't fail me (Hah, who am 
I kidding!) the wheelchair was a very old fashioned one. Certainly, it 
was not for Maggie Smith, but for McGonagall. I imagine they cut the 
scene later.

But just to be sure I took a look at the Internet Movie Database. 
Maggie Smith looks to have been very busy the past few years and has 
two more movies in the wings.

Kathy (who has not seen the movie, and thinks she'll have to wait until 
after reading DH to go.)




From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 01:52:52 2007
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WED*Potter Power Photo's*
Message-ID: <200707130152.l6D1qq9V006347@upsa-web106.ofoto.com>

	 

You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!


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From nirjhar.jain at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 05:19:46 2007
From: nirjhar.jain at gmail.com (Nirjhar Jain)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:19:46 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
Message-ID: <f7721i+g1lt@eGroups.com>

Hi,
    I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the
phenomenon  it is today if there were no Internet?

    Would Harry Potter have become so insanely popular if it were not
for  all the HP discussion groups and fan sites on the internet.    

Many people would point out that there was no internet during the 
times of Agatha Christie, Jane Austen, Arthur Conan Doyle and that did
 not prevent Sherlock Holmes, Elizabeth Bennet, Hercule Poirot from 
becoming huge cultural icons.

    Still, they were not huge as HP and their popularity did not
spread  like wild fire in such a relatively short span of time as
Potterama.

    I think Internet had a big impact on the spreading of the Harry
Potter  phenomenon.

    Do you think Harry Potter would be as huge as it is today if it
were  not for the internet?

    Also, as a result of this do you think Jo Rowling's writing of
Harry  Potter was influenced by this? Do you think Book 7 would be
different  if Harry Potter had not been this popular?

    Notice how long the books started to get when Harry Potter really
 caught on in a big way after Book 3?

    I do not think that Book 4 would have been allowed to be that long
and  dark if it were not for the fact that Harry Potter had become
popular.

  I think the success gave Jo Rowling and her publishers the
confidence  to make Harry Potter more edgy and dark.

    I think Goblet of Fire would have been a different book if Harry 
Potter had not become popular.   
 
My whole point is that the Interent had a big part to play in making 
Harry Potter a phenomenon which led to Jo Rowling having the 
confidence to tell the story she wanted to tell.

JMHO. :)

Nirjhar




From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri Jul 13 09:05:19 2007
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:05:19 -0000
Subject: Sewing question
Message-ID: <f77f8f+gu98@eGroups.com>

Does anyone here know how to make a circle cloak?  I have a pattern
(http://gothfashion.info/circlecloak.php) but I'm confused as to where
exactly I'm supposed to be sewing.

I'm hoping to get this finished in time for the release to complete my
DE costume (It's the only costume that goes with my Dark Mark Tattoo
without ruining the costume).




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 17:50:49 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:50:49 -0000
Subject: Last thirty minutes of OoP (no spoilers!)
In-Reply-To: <f75q1s+tu7n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f78e1p+r7ib@eGroups.com>

Katherine Coble wrote:
> >
> > The last 20 minutes are only in 3D if you pay extra to see the
film  in an iMax theatre.
> > They will give you special goggles which fit over glasses.
> > 
> > The 3D effect is cool in some places, but makes other scenes hard
to  follow.
> > 
> > I saw it in 3D last night, but plan to re-watch on a normal screen.
> 
Alla added:
> 
> AHA. So it is only on IMAX. I am going to rewatch it as well, was
going to do it regardless.
> 
> I did love 3-D, thought they made it for very appropriate moments, 
although yeah in couple of scenes, scene became bleary for me, so I
had to take glasses off for a second.

Carol responds:
Thanks, both of you. I'm relieved. I think I'll just see it at a
regular theater--a nice one with comfortable seats that recline
slightly. And I'll sit in the back row if the person I go with will
accept that arrangement.

Carol, who thinks that IMAX and/or 3-D would be more than she needs to
enjoy the experience of watching the film




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 17:56:27 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:56:27 -0000
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
In-Reply-To: <f76bhb+7g0q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f78ecb+2knt@eGroups.com>

In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, gwharrison53@ wrote:
>
> > You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery.
> > Enjoy! <snip>

Steve/bboyminn tresponded: 
> So, Harrison, bucking for a little commission are we? 
> 
> My sister and my niece both have Kodak Easyshare accounts, and I
don't need to join to view their photos.
> 
> So, you either don't know how to use Easyshare, or there is
something in it for you. Especially since you seem to flood all the
groups I'm in with 'invitations'.
> 
> For what it's worth.

Carol notes:
This person (if it is a person and not just an address) is clearly a
spammer, and I hope that the List Elves will remove him/it from all
three lists.

Carol, also annoyed by these recurring posts and appealing to the List
Elves for help




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 18:20:27 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:20:27 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f7721i+g1lt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f78fpc+g74k@eGroups.com>

Nirjhar Jain wrote:

>     I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the
phenomenon it is today if there were no Internet?
> 
>     Would Harry Potter have become so insanely popular if it were
not for  all the HP discussion groups and fan sites on the internet.    
<snip>
>     Also, as a result of this do you think Jo Rowling's writing of
> Harry Potter was influenced by this? Do you think Book 7 would be
> different if Harry Potter had not been this popular?
<snip>
>     I do not think that Book 4 would have been allowed to be that
long and  dark if it were not for the fact that Harry Potter had
become popular.
> 
>   I think the success gave Jo Rowling and her publishers the
> confidence  to make Harry Potter more edgy and dark.
<snip>

Carol responds:
I'm sure that the Internet played a role in the popularity of the
books, as did the films, but I have no idea to what extent. I heard
about them by word of mouth, went to see the first film, and decided
to read, or at least try out, the first book to see if it was as good
or better. From there, I read the whole series as far as it went, and
was desperate to see what happened after GoF, which I loved. I found
HPfGu, which operated as a kind of support group to get me through the
wait, and became addicted to it as well. I don't know how my
experience compares to anyone else's, but for me, the Internet is a
way to share my passion for the books (and my fascination with Snape).
It didn't cause me to read the books or see the films.

As for the effect of the Internet on Rowling's writing, I don't think
it affected either the length or the darkness or the books. Surely,
she planned the three important deaths we've encountered so far from
the beginning, along with the pivotal restoration of LV to his body in
the fourth book--surely always intended to be dark, with the
kidnap/murder plot, the Death Eaters, the Unforgiveable Curses, and
the murder of Cedric Diggory.

We do know that JKR reads certain websites (I don't know whether HPfGu
is among them, but it ought to be!), and she's made a few small
corrections of inconsistencies pointed out to her by fans (Percy's
silver Prefect badge being "identical" to Ron's scarlet and gold one,
for example. I don't think to this day she understands why "We haven't
won the cup since Charlie left" is inconsistent with "We haven't won
the cup for seven years" if Charlie is three years older than Percy.)

I also think she's made one or two small concessions to her readers.
For example, complaints about the "sexism" of the DEs Crucioing "the
Auror Frank Longbottom and his wife" led to the statement in OoP that
both Frank and Alice were Aurors. And she *may* have responded to
readers' complaints about DD tolerating the Dursleys' abuse of Harry
by adding some criticism of their actions to his speech near the
beginning of HBP.

However, I don't think that the Internet or reader reaction in general
has had any effect on the main plot or the deaths in DH, two of which
were apparently unplanned (as is the one reprieve). I think that she
let the characters control the action as she wrote (which happens to
the best of authors when they're drafting a chapter), liked the
result, and kept it because it didn't affect the outcome of the series.

I think that the publicity would have been different, the number of
books sold would have been considerably less (as would JKR's income),
but I think the books themselves would be largely the same, except
that Tom Riddle might still be the "ancestor" of Salazar Slytherin and
a few other inconsistencies and infelicities might not have been
ironed out.

Carol, just giving her own opinion and quite sure that others will
think differently





From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 18:21:46 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:21:46 -0000
Subject: Cold ButterBeer like at Lumos
Message-ID: <f78frq+o4vu@eGroups.com>

Need recipe. Old witch that I am, my memory is a bit fizzy. Or is the 
beer fizzy... anyway. Does anyone remember how it was made? I think it 
was cream soda and butterscotch flavoring and whip cream. Any ideas?

Tonks_op




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 18:31:19 2007
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:31:19 -0400
Subject: Gerber food recs? I'll try food for nearly free.
Message-ID: <1a2738400707131131g3c60b6abh13cb586682400e12@mail.gmail.com>

Subject line self-explanatory. {g}

I'd like to try out some Gerber food because I might be able to get
these for around less than $0.05 each (or free) at Target after
Target's grocery website coupon.  Plus, there are Gerber website
coupons and Publix Gerber coupons that may work at Target.

I've heard banana is good... Then there's this guy:
http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpress/?p=294

"Another thing about the Gerber Graduates Apple Mini Fruits, at 25
calories per serving, they could possibly help you lose weight and
help make you as thin as Kate Moss, except without the cocaine use."

Heh.

Dina



From retired153 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 19:51:02 2007
From: retired153 at yahoo.com (j15300)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:51:02 -0000
Subject: Scoop from the "Quibbler" [Not a spoiler]
Message-ID: <f78l36+r1i3@eGroups.com>

After graduating, Harry Potter will marry Luna Lovegood.  He is set to
become the youngest managing editor ever of "The Quibbler."

Rubeus Hagrid intends to move to California, and contemplates running
for Governor.

Hogwarts is up for auction, and will likely become the winter home of
the Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.  Reliable sources
say Minerva McGonagall has signed on as their publicity agent.

More to follow.




From anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 17:58:57 2007
From: anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com (Katie)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:58:57 -0000
Subject: Just Saw OotP - Possible SPOILERS
Message-ID: <f78eh1+cqg4@eGroups.com>

Brand new to the OT list - though I'm an HPfGU regular. I had to join 
the OT list so I could talk about the film for a bit...

I just saw OotP last night and WOW. They finally got it right. Of 
course, much was cut out (I really missed seeing St. Mungo's, for 
instance), but they finally got the spirit of the book right and the 
characters were spot on, for the first time in 4 films. I walked out 
of the theater feeling like I had actually seen the WW for the FIRST 
time, instead of the wierd, stiff, Disney-fied version from the first 
4 films. 

Also, I have to say, Dan Radcliffe actually acted in this film, 
instead of making wierd faces the whole time! I thought he was great - 
and I really felt like I was looking at HARRY - not Dan Radcliffe as 
Harry. 

Of couse, there was much I wished had been included, but it's simply 
not possible to get all the details in there, and I really felt like 
they captured the feeling of the books. Huzzah!

It was altogether satisfying and I now cannot wait for the HBP movie!

And of course...only one week to go...Katie  




From sumanisgreat at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 19:04:30 2007
From: sumanisgreat at gmail.com (Suman)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:34:30 +0530
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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 22:47:11 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:47:11 -0000
Subject: From my blog...
Message-ID: <f78vdf+sqrf@eGroups.com>

I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. It all started about 4 years ago. I was 
spending my summer vacations at the beach, I had ran out of books to 
read, so my neighbor lent the first 4 Harry Potter books. I read all 
of them in a week, and got completely hooked. When I returned home I 
bought the fifth book. I just loved them. I started craving for 
anything Harry Pottery. I joined  discussion groups online, bought 
the movies. Everything.

Two years ago when the Half-Blood Prince came out, I bought the book 
that same evening and stayed all night reading it. I'm planning on 
doing the exact same thing next Friday.

All through Harry's story I have laughed, I have cried. To be honest 
it helped me through a time of depression. There was a time a couple 
of years ago when I was incredibly depressed. I used to lay in my bed 
all day, and believe it or not, Harry was my only company. When I 
imersed into his magical universe, it seemed that my problems 
vanished for a while, and for that short period of time I was fine 
with the universe. It may seem sad that I only got comfort from 
reading the adventures of some pre-adolescent kids. I felt all the 
emotions Harry went throu, I enjoyed to watch him grow, to watch him 
fight the adversity and come out on top...

I fell in love with some characters, specially with Sirius, his long-
lost godfather. I felt for him. I pictured him as a real life person, 
like the kind of man I could fall for. I imagined him as a strong, 
sexy man, he was the portrait of my ideal man. That man I long for, 
the man I've waited so long for. When JK Rowling killed him in The 
Order of Phoenix I was devastated, up until this day I don't truly 
believe he's really dead, I'm hoping for a come back of some kind. 
When I say the new movie on Wednesday I was so excited because he got 
so much screen time. The director portraited him exactly like I had 
imagined him, he came to life, and for a couple of hours he was a 
real person, not just a book character.

I also adore the evil-looking potions master, the enigma that is 
Severus Snape. I have debated for years whether he is good or bad. I 
desperately want him to be on the good side. I find him extremelly 
sexy, I enjoy each and every one of his scenes, I love the way he 
talks, walks, and acts. I specially love the way he curls his lips. 
So hot. I'm expecting a lot of 'screen' time in The Deathly Hallows. 

So this week has been really special to all Harry Potter fans, we got 
the fifth movie, and the final book in the series is due a week from 
today. We've all been waiting for this final installment for years, 
we're expecting a master piece, a work of art that ties all the lose 
ends we've had for many years. A chance to see what Jo has planned 
for over ten years, to finally see what the future holds for our 
beloved characters. To all Harry Potter fans out there, Happy Harry 
Week!




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 23:43:15 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:43:15 -0000
Subject: Gerber food recs? I'll try food for nearly free.
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400707131131g3c60b6abh13cb586682400e12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f792mj+6qke@eGroups.com>

Dina Lerret wrote:

> I'd like to try out some Gerber food because I might be able to get
> these for around less than $0.05 each (or free) at Target after
> Target's grocery website coupon.  Plus, there are Gerber website
> coupons and Publix Gerber coupons that may work at Target.
> 
> I've heard banana is good... Then there's this guy:
> http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/wordpress/?p=294
> 
> "Another thing about the Gerber Graduates Apple Mini Fruits, at 25
> calories per serving, they could possibly help you lose weight and
> help make you as thin as Kate Moss, except without the cocaine use."
> 
> Heh.
> 
> Dina
>
The fruit (which is almost like jelly, American definition) is really
good, especially the apricots and plums. You might try it as a topping
for yogurt.

Carol, who used to sneak tastes of the fruit (but not the veggies or
cereal or meat) once upon a time





From sherriola at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 00:51:12 2007
From: sherriola at gmail.com (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:51:12 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f78fpc+g74k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <46981e0a.27f8720a.57b5.4815@mx.google.com>


Nirjhar Jain wrote:

> I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the
phenomenon it is today if there were no Internet?
> 
> Would Harry Potter have become so insanely popular if it were
not for all the HP discussion groups and fan sites on the internet. 
<snip>
> Also, as a result of this do you think Jo Rowling's writing of Harry 
> Potter was influenced by this? Do you think Book 7 would be different 
> if Harry Potter had not been this popular?
<snip>
> I do not think that Book 4 would have been allowed to be that
long and dark if it were not for the fact that Harry Potter had become
popular.
> 
> I think the success gave Jo Rowling and her publishers the confidence 
> to make Harry Potter more edgy and dark.
<snip>

Carol responds:
I'm sure that the Internet played a role in the popularity of the books, as
did the films, but I have no idea to what extent. I heard about them by word
of mouth, went to see the first film, and decided to read, or at least try
out, the first book to see if it was as good or better. From there, I read
the whole series as far as it went, and was desperate to see what happened
after GoF, which I loved. I found HPfGu, which operated as a kind of support
group to get me through the wait, and became addicted to it as well. I don't
know how my experience compares to anyone else's, but for me, the Internet
is a way to share my passion for the books (and my fascination with Snape).
It didn't cause me to read the books or see the films.



sherry:

my experience was somewhat like carol's.  I had never heard of the books,
till sometime after COS was released.  But a friend asked me to read it with
him, and I am the one who got hooked.  I went through the next few books,
and the beginning of the movies, drinking in everything potter I could find.
At last, just after OOTP, I was really desperate to find other adults who
shared my fascination and obsession with the books.  I did a yahoo search
and found HP for grownups and became obsessed with it.  The net did not get
me into the series.  But the internet gave me the chance to find other fans
like me, adults who are as fascinated with it as I am.  it helped me find
people who agree and disagree and care about the characters I do or not, but
all of us HP fans.  it really opened up the ways I could revel in and
discuss the series with others.  I really think that's how many people got
into the online fandom, by first getting into the series.

Sherry




From sherriola at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 01:18:23 2007
From: sherriola at gmail.com (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:18:23 -0700
Subject: to SF bay area movie fans
Message-ID: <46982469.15bb720a.5b0c.ffffe372@mx.google.com>

Hi all,

For those who live in or who are familiar with the san Francisco Bay Area.

I am blind, and a good friend and coworker of mine is also blind.  We live
in Marin county, in San Rafael.  my friend has been counting the days for
the OOTP movie, since the release date was announced last fall.  For those
who don't know, there is a service called DVS, descriptive video service,
and there are several DVS equipped theaters around the area.  However, none
of them are showing the new movie in the theater with the DVS.  You know,
multi-screen facilities.  They all have their DVS equipment in the smaller
theaters and have told my friend they will not move the HP movie there till
it "isn't so popular anymore".  One theater manager even told her in
response to her question about why, that when it came to putting the movie
in which theater, blind people didn't count and would have to wait.  Well, I
was livid on her behalf when I heard this!  

Anyway, I thought I'd ask here on this list, to see if there are any HP
movie fans in the area, who have already seen the movie, would like to see
it again, and wouldn't mind going with my friend and describing the movie to
her.  she's completely familiar with the story and characters, so a person
could say, Harry did this, Snape did that, Sirius just ... and she'll
understand it.  I'm sure she'd probably pay your gas, buy your ticket and
treat you to something from the concession stand!

If anyone is interested, please contact me off list at:

sherriola at gmail.com

Thanks!

Sherry




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 01:38:33 2007
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:38:33 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f7721i+g1lt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f799ep+2sv3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Nirjhar Jain" 
<nirjhar.jain at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>     I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the
> phenomenon  it is today if there were no Internet?

I'm sure it would have been.  I heard about it myself in Spring of 1999 
by word of mouth.  The only way I found HP on the internet was by 
deliberately searching for it, when I was desperate for any news during 
the long wait between GoF and OoP.  (I belonged to a long-defunct HP 
community in late 2001, and then found HPfGU in Sept. 2002.)

In fact, everyone whose history I know came to HP via the books or 
movies first, and then found the online community afterward.

Annemehr





From nirjhar.jain at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 03:05:10 2007
From: nirjhar.jain at gmail.com (Nirjhar Jain)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:05:10 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f78fpc+g74k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f79eh6+c6u7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"
<justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
> As for the effect of the Internet on Rowling's writing, I don't
think> it affected either the length or the darkness or the books. Surely,
> she planned the three important deaths we've encountered so far from
> the beginning, along with the pivotal restoration of LV to his body in
> the fourth book--surely always intended to be dark, with the
> kidnap/murder plot, the Death Eaters, the Unforgiveable Curses, and
> the murder of Cedric Diggory.


Nirjhar:

Do you really believe that the Publishers would have allowed Book 4 to
be that long if Harry Potter had not become popular?

I do not think so. IMO, GoF would have been less voluminous and more
"PG" friendly had it not been for the immense success of Potterama.
The climax of GoF would not have been allowed if it not for the
success of the earlier books. Cedric's brutal death and Wormtail
cutting off his hand would have been regarded by the publishers as
being to violent for a children's book. They would have told Jo to
rewrite it. Jo Rowling would not have been able to say no.

I do not believe Jo Rowling would have got the freedom to write
Potterama the way she wanted to if it had not been for the success of
Potterama.

JMHO :)






From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 09:30:07 2007
From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:30:07 -0000
Subject: Sewing question
In-Reply-To: <f77f8f+gu98@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7a52v+5eij@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Saitaina" <saitaina at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Does anyone here know how to make a circle cloak?  I have a pattern
> (http://gothfashion.info/circlecloak.php) but I'm confused as to 
where
> exactly I'm supposed to be sewing.
> 
> I'm hoping to get this finished in time for the release to 
complete my
> DE costume (It's the only costume that goes with my Dark Mark 
Tattoo
> without ruining the costume).
>

I cannot believe it but I have made a circle cloak before...(five 
kids and years of homemade halloween costumes I suppose)..
Now, the only cloak I made was out of some horribe fuzzy 
fabric..however I went to the site you referenced..and I hope my 
tips help...

I saw that they may a chalk line cirle.. I'm guessing you may have 
issues with the length? 

just lay the fabric out legnthwise(so as to accomodate your height 
and girth)...next to each other(sew the panels of fabric together
(then the directions on the site you referenced should read a little 
more clearer)--you'll probably want the width to be at least your 
height--your height will approximately equal your finger tip to 
finger tip measurement..so if you want the cloak to hide your hands 
add however many inches you need of fabric before making said 
line..time is short so you may or may not want to hem (esp. if you 
are a DE..if your want a your dark mark to show...then sew large 
loose stiches(over and under large spaces) along the line of your 
forearm but before you cut said thread pull on the thread to gather 
the folds of the fabric).

They do have measurements for an attached hood on said site...simply 
use that as a guideline for your own hood (for a little bigger add 
two inches...for more, place a basebball cap on your head and 
measure from the tip of your spine(that place where neck bone meets 
backbone) to the tip of the ball cap,  and use those measuement to 
measure it out on the fabric and cut accordingly. Do not worry that 
the hood won't be large enough..it will be huge with baseball cap 
standards.. and you can always fold back the extra.

I'm not a seamstress or fashion designer, these are just a couple of 
tips I've learned over the years at making last minute costumes. I 
hope my tips helped, if you're confused  post again and I will try 
to clarify.
(hope this helps)
DD




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sat Jul 14 09:44:53 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:44:53 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Internet and Potterama
Message-ID: <c83.15ebfa49.33c9f515@aol.com>

Rather than quoting previous posts on this thread,  which would just take too 
long, I will tell my story of how I became a Potter  fanatic. I did not have 
a computer back when the series started. Like Carol I  heard about the books 
by word of mouth. I bought the first three books back in  1999, put them on the 
book shelf, and that is where they stayed, untouched,  until December 2004 
when, depressed as I always am at the holidays since my  husband passed away, I 
decided I needed to read something light that would raise  my spirits. I 
looked over at the bookcase and there sat the Harry Potter books.  I started 
reading SS and I was hooked. I finished the three I had by New Year's  and bought 
the other two where I work and quickly devoured them too. Well, not  OOP - I had 
a hard time getting through that one, and it is still my least  favorite. It 
was also in Dec. 2004 that I saw the movie SS for the first time  when it 
aired on ABC Family Channel.  I didn't even know until 2004 that  the books had 
been made into movies. I bought all three of the DVD's. I didn't  get my first 
computer until the end of 2005 when I was given an old Windows 95.  So the 
Internet played no part at all in my involvement with Harry Potter. The  series 
was six books and four movies in before I even had a computer. I was told  about 
HPfGU by a member of the Anne Perry group I belong to, and I will forever  be 
grateful to her. The Internet is not responsible for me becoming an absolute  
fanatic about HP but it has put me in contact with people who share my Potter 
 passion that I can discuss it with. I would have gone crazy the last two 
years  without the groups as we were waiting for this glorious  month.
 
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From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 10:44:14 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:44:14 -0000
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
In-Reply-To: <f78ecb+2knt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7a9du+c2bu@eGroups.com>

> Carol notes:

> This person (if it is a person and not just an address) is clearly 
> a spammer, and I hope that the List Elves will remove him/it from 
> all three lists.

Goddlefrood:

*She* does exist, she's a rather pleasant and very keen Harry Potter 
fan. Her posting is limited only to *this* group now and the photos 
are of Harry Potter related material. The other groups where they 
had previously appeared will no longer get them.





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 14 13:55:20 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:55:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Just Saw OotP - Possible SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <f78eh1+cqg4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001201c7c61e$9ecd9460$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>

[Katie]:
| I just saw OotP last night and WOW. They finally got it right. Of 
| course, much was cut out (I really missed seeing St. Mungo's, for 
| instance), but they finally got the spirit of the book right and the 
| characters were spot on, for the first time in 4 films.

[Lee]:
Oh Goodie!  I actually waited for the DVD to watch POA and GOF, but I think
I will go spend money to see OOTP particularly because of one line given by
a WABC critic.  He said something like: For those who have read the books,
the movie would enhance their experience; for the rest of us, we'll be lost.
:-)  I wish I could have quoted him exactly, but is a close approximation.
This said to me that the movie must be doing something right. <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

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I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 14 14:15:02 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:15:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] to SF bay area movie fans
In-Reply-To: <46982469.15bb720a.5b0c.ffffe372@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <001301c7c621$5eaf5dc0$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>

[Sherry]:
| For those
| who don't know, there is a service called DVS, descriptive 
| video service,
| and there are several DVS equipped theaters around the area.  
| However, none
| of them are showing the new movie in the theater with the 
| DVS.  You know,
| multi-screen facilities.  They all have their DVS equipment 
| in the smaller
| theaters and have told my friend they will not move the HP 
| movie there till
| it "isn't so popular anymore".  One theater manager even told her in
| response to her question about why, that when it came to 
| putting the movie
| in which theater, blind people didn't count and would have to 
| wait.  Well, I
| was livid on her behalf when I heard this!

[Lee]:
Don't Get Me Started!!!!!  I don't even bother trying to find a DVS facility
any more because the movie I might be interested in is *Never* in the
theater of those multiplexes which has the DVS.  To me, that's seems
discriminatory and I find that very sad in this day and age.  Anyway, I
usually go with my sweetheart who fills in what I'm lacking (which usually
isn't very much.) So far, the movie that gave me the most difficult time as
far as knowing what was going on was GOF, so I got the DVS VHS...they don't
have the Potter movies with descriptive on DVD, too bad.

Anyway, Sherry, I feel your pain and find the "token DVS installation" thing
to be almost as bad as not having it at all, IMHO.

Good luck on finding an empathetic OOTP Companion.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From sherriola at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 15:28:52 2007
From: sherriola at gmail.com (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:28:52 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] to SF bay area movie fans
In-Reply-To: <001301c7c621$5eaf5dc0$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>
Message-ID: <4698ebb5.19bd720a.77e3.ffff8814@mx.google.com>

[Lee]:
Don't Get Me Started!!!!! I don't even bother trying to find a DVS facility
any more because the movie I might be interested in is *Never* in the
theater of those multiplexes which has the DVS. To me, that's seems
discriminatory and I find that very sad in this day and age. Anyway, I
usually go with my sweetheart who fills in what I'm lacking (which usually
isn't very much.) So far, the movie that gave me the most difficult time as
far as knowing what was going on was GOF, so I got the DVS VHS...they don't
have the Potter movies with descriptive on DVD, too bad.

Anyway, Sherry, I feel your pain and find the "token DVS installation" thing
to be almost as bad as not having it at all, IMHO.

Good luck on finding an empathetic OOTP Companion.

Cheers,



Sherry:

I've spent my life going to movies without description and have loved movies
all my life.  but my friend is younger and is used to DVS.  She moved out
here from Ohio, and had three theaters with description there.  Her theaters
back there always showed the top movies with description if it was
available, and she thinks they will probably all have the HP movie.  She's
amazed that she moved to Northern California, and nowhere will show it, till
it isn't popular anymore.  it's so sad for her.

Sherry




From glaubman at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 14 16:17:53 2007
From: glaubman at sbcglobal.net (Sarah Glaubman)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:17:53 -0000
Subject: seeking buddies to see movie in East Bay
Message-ID: <f7asvh+6rla@eGroups.com>

Hi, I live in Oakland, CA, and I'm looking for someone to go with to see
the OP movie in this area. I have a non-visible disability and most of
my (handful of) local friends have disabilities and the only one who's a
Harry Potter fan is not able to go to the movies in the foreseeable
future. I'm rather isolated. I don't mind going to the movies by myself,
but this one I think it would be so much more fun to go with other
people, and I know there are lots of HP fans out there. So by any remote
chance, is there anyone reading this who is in the area, who would
like to bring me along, or come with me to the Grand Lake Theatre?





From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sat Jul 14 18:25:47 2007
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (PenapartElf at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:25:47 EDT
Subject: linguistic help needed
Message-ID: <bde.17e00a2e.33ca6f2b@aol.com>

Since this is a very multi-lingual community, I am appealing to y'all 
for help:
 
> Cum pot deveni un membru?
 
Just what language is that?  It looks to be a romance language but 
Babelfish requires that I actually name the language and darned if any 
of the ones I tried worked.  And if you speak that language,  would
you consider helping me send a reply in answer?
 
Thanks!
 
Petra, hoping that does not turn out to be naughty spam...  <g>
a
n  :)
 
 
 



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From swartell at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 18:20:29 2007
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:20:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Internet and Potterama
Message-ID: <408376.60045.qm@web53209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

<nirjhar.jain@ ...> wrote:


>

> Hi,

>     I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the

> phenomenon  it is today if there were no Internet?









Annemehr <annemehr at yahoo.com replied:>

I'm sure it would have been.  I heard about it myself in Spring of 1999 by word of mouth.  The only way I found HP on the internet was by deliberately searching for it<snip>



In fact, everyone whose history I know came to HP via the books or movies first, and then found the online community afterward.



Me now:

I didn't find the online resources until much later, but if I had
not been told about the books on a mailing list (on the works of
author Lois McMaster Bujold), I might never have picked up the books,
and later the movies.  The recommendations from that list are generally
well-suited to my tastes, and a number of people were raving about the
first book, so I tried it.  The rest, as they say, is history.  So, in
a very real way, I was introduced to Harry and company online.



Sue, in Ohio









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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 20:27:59 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:27:59 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f79eh6+c6u7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7bbkf+f8vo@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> > As for the effect of the Internet on Rowling's writing, I don't
think it affected either the length or the darkness or the books.
Surely, she planned the three important deaths we've encountered so
far from the beginning, along with the pivotal restoration of LV to
his body in the fourth book--surely always intended to be dark, with
the kidnap/murder plot, the Death Eaters, the Unforgiveable Curses,
and the murder of Cedric Diggory.
> 
Nirjhar responded:
> 
> Do you really believe that the Publishers would have allowed Book 4
to be that long if Harry Potter had not become popular?
> 
> I do not think so. IMO, GoF would have been less voluminous and more
"PG" friendly had it not been for the immense success of Potterama.
The climax of GoF would not have been allowed if it not for the
success of the earlier books. Cedric's brutal death and Wormtail
cutting off his hand would have been regarded by the publishers as
being to violent for a children's book. They would have told Jo to
rewrite it. Jo Rowling would not have been able to say no.
> 
> I do not believe Jo Rowling would have got the freedom to write
Potterama the way she wanted to if it had not been for the success of
Potterama.
> 
> JMHO :)
>

Carol responds:
The books as written and the books as edited are two different things.
You may be right that they'd have been more tightly edited, but I
think JKR would have cut out SPEW before she'd have cut central
elements like Voldemort's return and Cedric's death, which paves the
way for darker elements to come.

It's possible that the publisher would have demanded changes if they'd
been less popular, but JKR would not have given in. She had plotted
the books from the beginning, including everything from Dementors to
the three important deaths we've seen so far, and she could not have
omitted any element central to the end of the series. Wormtail's
silver hand is also a necessary plot element, I'm pretty sure. It's a
Chekhov's gun if I ever saw one, probably tied in with his life debt
to Harry.

The Internet (and savvy marketing, including the film franchise) may
have made the books a cultural phenomenon, but I think they'd have
sold well enough (wasn't the initial run 50,000 books?) even without
the Internet that Bloomsbury would have given her a relatively free
hand. (She must have told them that she had a seven-book series
planned and that the earlier books were stepping stones to the later
ones.) Bloomsbury (and Scholastic) had no problem with Harry's parents
being murdered offpage in the first book, a Basilisk petrifying
students (and killing one, presumably on Tom Riddle's orders, fifty
years before) in the second book, or soul-sucking Dementors in the
third book. If they didn't see the books getting longer and darker,
with some sort of resurrection for Voldemort and more murders by the
Dark Lord (who otherwise wouldn't deserve the name), they'd have been
very short-sighted.

I can see a publishing house refusing a book like "Goblet of Fire" if
it were the author's first book, but it was the fourth in a series. If
the first few had sold only 50,000-100,000 copies each, with no adult
following (just child readers), I can see them asking her to cut 100
pages or so of minor subplots. (They might have asked her to return
Barty Jr. to Azkaban as the film did rather than having him
soul-sucked, for example.) But she would never have agreed to cut the
central elements, especially the crucial Voldemort restoration chapter
and the other events in the graveyard (including Wormtail cutting off
his own right hand). The main story was plotted from the beginning.
Snape was always going to kill Dumbledore, for example. And how could
she work up to that scene without introducing other murders first?
Best to start with a fairly minor, if likeable character, then Harry's
godfather (who spends most of the books offpage) before showing the
death of Dumbledore, which shocked even adult readers like us. And how
could she show that Voldemort was evil if he didn't (through Wormtail)
perform a really heartless and terrible deed right before Harry's
eyes? GoF establishes, as none of the earlier books has done, that
Voldemort is truly evil, that Harry really has reason to fear and
oppose him. Having the innocent Cedric die for no reason other than
that he's in the way establishes that fact as nothing else could.
"Remember Cedric Diggory, a boy who was good and kind and brave. . ."
Would GoF be the memorable book it is without that speech? I don't
think so.

An eleven-year-old asked me that very question: "Why did JK Rowling
have Cedric die?" I answered, "To show how evil Voldemort is." The
eleven-year-old nodded wisely and said, "You're right." Kids
understand more than adults give them credit for.

I think Bloomsbury must have known more or less where JKR was going
with the books before they contracted for a seven-book series. In any
case, JKR has said that GoF is a very important book, a pivotal book.
It's whole purpose, IMO, is to prepare the reader for Voldemort's
return and to show how evil he is when he does return. It also
prepares for even darker elements central to the plot in the later
books. At the same time, it shows, through Cedric, what the WW is
fighting to protect, what it will lose if Voldemort is not defeated.

Carol, who thinks that JKR would have written the books her way and
found another publisher if Bloomsbury had not agreed to publish them
with no key scenes cut out




From klewellen at shellworld.net  Sat Jul 14 22:13:33 2007
From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:13:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: seeking an OOTP movie buddy in New York?
In-Reply-To: <858F61CD-EAF1-47F1-B597-C6EB7D70D407@comcast.net>
References: <f75ns1+pfg8@eGroups.com> <858F61CD-EAF1-47F1-B597-C6EB7D70D407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707141808400.87435@server2.shellworld.net>

Hi all,
One of the mods suggested I try this one again.  I am looking for someone 
in the NYC area interested in seeing OOTP  in a unique way.  I am also 
considering doing a radio story on the experience, which is why I am 
willing to treat someone to the film.  If you are in the New York City area 
and are gain, even if you have already seen the film once, drop me a note 
off list.

Thanks tons,

Karen




From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sat Jul 14 22:16:47 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:16:47 -0000
Subject: Call the DRCoMC!
Message-ID: <f7bi0f+panh@eGroups.com>

Quick! Someone call the Department for the Regulation and Control of 
Magical Creatures! It looks like dangerous "Five X" critters are 
wreaking havoc throughout the Middle East.

This first item strongly suggests that Death Eaters have allied 
themselves with renegade elements of Hufflepuff.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6295138.stm

The second item, although involving an extra-Canonic creature, 
certainly suggests that some kind of powerful Dark magic is afoot. And 
the article comes with photographic proof of the creature's allegiances!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1274983,00.html

- CMC





From HMaffioli at san.rr.com  Sat Jul 14 22:55:17 2007
From: HMaffioli at san.rr.com (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:55:17 -0700
Subject: HP References on Dr. Who
Message-ID: <C2BEA265.69EF%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>

Hey Any DR. WHO fans catch last nights episode?  There were 3-4 direct
references to the series, book 7, and JK
It was GREAT!

Heather




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From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: A&E had a special*but I wasn't able to watch much of it *
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From jeopardy18 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 15 03:07:58 2007
From: jeopardy18 at comcast.net (seanmulligan2000)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:07:58 -0000
Subject: braggin rights questions
Message-ID: <f7c32e+81h2@eGroups.com>

Do I have to answer all the bragging rights questions on the main list 
to get any parts or can I just answer a few of them?




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 15 08:39:48 2007
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:39:48 -0000
Subject: linguistic help needed
In-Reply-To: <bde.17e00a2e.33ca6f2b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f7cmgk+obcv@eGroups.com>

Petra wrote:
>
> Since this is a very multi-lingual community, I am appealing to y'all 
> for help:
>  
> > Cum pot deveni un membru?
>  
> Just what language is that?  It looks to be a romance language but 
> Babelfish requires that I actually name the language and darned if 
any 
> of the ones I tried worked.  And if you speak that language,  would
> you consider helping me send a reply in answer?
>  
> Thanks!

Kemper
Try Balkan languages... maybe Romanian or Albanian.  
Kemper, a member with devine pot?




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 15 15:44:41 2007
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 15 Jul 2007 15:44:41 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 7/15/2007, 11:00 am 
Message-ID: <1184514281.28.60489.m44@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Notes:
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From jnferr at gmail.com  Sun Jul 15 16:03:58 2007
From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:03:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] linguistic help needed
In-Reply-To: <bde.17e00a2e.33ca6f2b@aol.com>
References: <bde.17e00a2e.33ca6f2b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8ee758b40707150903o4b59572as3964f28e878e4574@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/14/07, PenapartElf at aol.com <PenapartElf at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Since this is a very multi-lingual community, I am appealing to y'all
> for help:
>
> > Cum pot deveni un membru?
>
> Just what language is that?  It looks to be a romance language but
> Babelfish requires that I actually name the language and darned if any
> of the ones I tried worked.  And if you speak that language,  would
> you consider helping me send a reply in answer?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Petra, hoping that does not turn out to be naughty spam...  <g>
> a
> n  :)


montims:
it's Romanian, and it askes "how can I become a member?", but I don't speak
Romanian, so can't offer a reply, I'm afraid...


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From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Sun Jul 15 16:45:36 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:45:36 -0000
Subject: The Internet and Potterama
In-Reply-To: <f78fpc+g74k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7divg+ad5e@eGroups.com>

> Nirjhar Jain wrote:
> 
> >     I have been wondering if Harry Potter would have been the
> phenomenon it is today if there were no Internet?
> > 
> >     Would Harry Potter have become so insanely popular if it were
> not for  all the HP discussion groups and fan sites on the 
internet.    
> <snip>
> >     Also, as a result of this do you think Jo Rowling's writing of
> > Harry Potter was influenced by this? Do you think Book 7 would be
> > different if Harry Potter had not been this popular?

I agree with Carol and others that HP would be about as popular even 
without the Internet - after, fandoms for Star Trek and Star Wars (to 
name only the most prominent) flourished in the pre-online era.

I think that the Internet's main effect has been the vast 
proliferation of creativity that it has inspired in HP fans.  
Predating the Internet, you'd have to be a pretty serious Star Trek 
fan to take all of the time and effort to create a 
story/novel/filk/drawing when it might be months before you could 
share your creation at the next fancon (or mimeographed newsletter 
with a 150 or so subscribers).  With the Internet, you can instantly 
submit your work to interested fans around the world, and get 
immediate feedback and discussion. Speaking for myself, I might have 
written an HP filk or two without the Internet, but filking would 
never have become the major ongoing project that it has over the last 
several years minus the forum that the Internet provides.

   - CMC




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jul 15 17:43:21 2007
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 15 Jul 2007 17:43:21 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 7/15/2007, 1:00 pm 
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From kkersey at swbell.net  Sun Jul 15 23:29:42 2007
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:29:42 -0000
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
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Message-ID: <f7eal6+q2ou@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Goddlefrood" <gav_fiji at ...>
wrote:
>
> > Carol notes:
> 
> > This person (if it is a person and not just an address) is clearly 
> > a spammer, and I hope that the List Elves will remove him/it from 
> > all three lists.
> 
> Goddlefrood:
> 
> *She* does exist, she's a rather pleasant and very keen Harry Potter 
> fan. Her posting is limited only to *this* group now and the photos 
> are of Harry Potter related material. The other groups where they 
> had previously appeared will no longer get them.
>

Just a suggestion, then - take the time to add a personal note,
perhaps a description of what the photos are of- (Her kids' halloween
costumes? A party? Movie stills? Hermione poses for Playwizard?).
Signing the post would help too.

There is no way I am going to follow a link from person unknown to
subjects unknown, especially with a child in the room with me, so
seeing these generic-sounding posts is annoying. If there was a brief
description of what was on the other side of the link I might be
interested, though.

Thanks,
Elisabet




From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 16 00:50:52 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:50:52 -0000
Subject: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
In-Reply-To: <f7eal6+q2ou@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7efdc+u1hq@eGroups.com>

> Elisabet:

> Just a suggestion, then - take the time to add a personal note,
> perhaps a description of what the photos are of.

Goddlefrood:

The titles of the posts should be enough to show what lies at the 
other end. They are signed in a way, here is what is stated in all 
these posts:

"You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. 
Enjoy!*Gail*"

This is at the beginning of each of the posts and clearly 
indicates the posts are from Gail. There is no content in 
the photos that could possibly offend. Believe me, I know, 
I looked into this matter in some depth.

Naturally, if you have any concern at all that there may be 
inappropriate content awaiting you then do not follow the link.

If there was any problem at all, which there isn't, then the posts 
would not be allowed.

Unless you have any other suggestions, of course, I hope this lays 
your mind at rest.

Goddlefrood




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 16 02:11:52 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:11:52 -0000
Subject: So-called Spoilers
Message-ID: <f7ek58+atqh@eGroups.com>

THIS IS NOT A SPOILER

I'm extremelly annoyed with some posts from the main list. Why on earth 
do some members believe that their predictions are spoilers? Please do 
us all the favor and only add the spoiler warning when it's an actual 
spoiler, something that will show in the books. If you work in a 
library and have read the book, then anything you say is a spoiler. 
What you believe may or may not happen is NOT a spoiler.

Thank you

Juli




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 16 02:20:03 2007
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (Emily)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:20:03 -0000
Subject: Sweaters in Summertime
Message-ID: <f7ekkj+rir2@eGroups.com>

Hey, a question for my British friends,

Whenever I watch any of the HP movies, except maybe this last one 
where they make a big deal about the drought, I always wonder, do 
people in the UK really wear longsleeve shirts and sweaters in July 
and August, or is the costume department just not paying enough 
attention?  I checked the London weather for today, which was 23 
degrees celsius, which is the equivalent of around 73 degrees 
farenheit.  That seems like a pleasant temperature; in my neck of the 
woods we would likely wear a t-shirt and jeans or even shorts.  I do 
costumes for the local community theater, and this just seems like a 
crazy oversight to me.

Thanks,
Emily




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 16 03:27:36 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:27:36 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sweaters in Summertime
In-Reply-To: <f7ekkj+rir2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7c759$419ea040$66a4a8c0@ROSIE>

[Emily]:
| Hey, a question for my British friends,
| 
| Whenever I watch any of the HP movies, except maybe this last one 
| where they make a big deal about the drought, I always wonder, do 
| people in the UK really wear long-sleeve shirts and sweaters in July 

[Lee]:
Back in August of 1979, I hosted a couple of pen friends, one from
Birmingham and the other from Radcliffe-On-Trent, Nottingham.  My mother,
two brothers and I took them on a long walk through our favorite park and,
when we started out, we of the US were in shorts and short-sleeve shirts
while my British friends wore (and this is no joke) long-sleeve Denim
jackets and one actually had a scarf like a muffler around his neck.

Suffice it to say that by the time we finished our close-to-two-hour walk,
the jackets and scarf were playing the role of arm decorations. <Grin>

Air conditioners were almost unknown, to, as they ended up blowing a breaker
by opening up windows to get cool, not realizing that such was the job of
the air conditioner.

It was an interesting two weeks. <Grin>

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From k.coble at comcast.net  Mon Jul 16 04:40:49 2007
From: k.coble at comcast.net (k.coble at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:40:49 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] So-called Spoilers
Message-ID: <071620070440.5435.469AF6D100099C9A0000153B22134843730A040D010CD205@comcast.net>


From: "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at yahoo.com>
> THIS IS NOT A SPOILER
> 
> I'm extremelly annoyed with some posts from the main list. Why on earth 
> do some members believe that their predictions are spoilers? Please do 
> us all the favor and only add the spoiler warning when it's an actual 
> spoiler, something that will show in the books. If you work in a 
> library and have read the book, then anything you say is a spoiler. 
> What you believe may or may not happen is NOT a spoiler.

A-friggin-men!

I happen to be one of the people who WANTs TO BE SPOILED.
I get all excited when I see "spoiler" only to have it be yet another person who thinks that Harry is Jesus and Dumbledore comes back to life as Ginny Weasley's wedding ring.

Either pony up a real spoiler or call it a "prediction".

Kat



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From PenapartElf at aol.com  Mon Jul 16 05:48:42 2007
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (penapart_elf)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:48:42 -0000
Subject: linguistic help needed
In-Reply-To: <8ee758b40707150903o4b59572as3964f28e878e4574@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f7f0rq+kfif@eGroups.com>

montims:
> it's Romanian, and it askes "how can I become a member?", but I
> don't speak Romanian, so can't offer a reply, I'm afraid...
 
Thanks montims and Kemper for solving the mystery!
 
Petra
a
n  :)
 
 
 




From rklarreich at aol.com  Mon Jul 16 06:21:58 2007
From: rklarreich at aol.com (rklarreich)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:21:58 -0000
Subject: On eating crow
Message-ID: <f7f2q6+bae8@eGroups.com>

In another week, many members of the main list will be faced by the 
necessity of eating crow, due to errors ranging from mistaken 
opinions of Snape's loyalties, to whether he is 5'4" or 5'7", to 
whether Irma Pince is his dear old mum, to whether a certain beloved 
werewolf is all he seems.

Since there is a restaurant not far from me called Crow, I thought it 
would be easier and pleasanter for the crow-eaters to consume the 
dish at this establishment.  That way, they will be able to 
commiserate with each other, and they won't have to go to the bother 
of purchasing the bird themselves, plucking it, preparing it, making 
side dishes, etc.  In fact, it seemed like a good idea to invite the 
whole list, since we can use a good post-DH party and we don't know 
who's going to have to eat the crow anyway.

With this in mind, I went ahead and made the reservation, as follows:

[Roberta picks up the phone, dials.]
  
Receptionist:  Crow Restaurant, how can I help you?
  
Roberta:  I'd like to make a reservation for a large group, please.
  
Receptionist:  Sure.  What date and time?
  
Roberta:  July 22, Sunday, 12 noon, till about 3 in the morning.
  
[sound of typing at other end]
  
Receptionist:  How many people?
  
Roberta:  26,484.  Give or take about five hundred.
  
[more typing]
 
Receptionist:  OK, I have July 22 at 12 PM.  I'm putting it down as 
an estimated 27,000 guests. Please call a day in advance with a more 
definite number so we know how many places to set.

Roberta:  I'm not sure I'll be able to get to the phone one day in 
advance.  I can call two days early, but the number might still 
change after that.
  
Receptionist:  Don't worry about it, you can always add up to ten 
people on the day without a problem.
  
Roberta:  Great.  I'd also like to make an advance order, please.  A 
large number of my group will be ordering the house special, and I 
want to make sure you don't run out.
  
Receptionist:  That's fine; how much do you want?
  
Roberta:  13,000 orders, please.
  
Receptionist:  And how would you like it prepared?
  
Roberta:  How about 3,000 roasted, 3,000 broiled, 3,000 boiled...and 
can you do a crow stew?
  
Receptionist:  Oh yeah, that's my favorite.
  
Roberta:  OK then, let's make 1,000 stew.  And do you have a 
vegetarian option?

Receptionist:  Yes, we do an excellent mock-crow soup.

Roberta:  Then I'd like 3,000 orders of that.  I guess if more than 
13,000 end up having crow, they can always share.
  
Receptionist:  They're welcome to, but bear in mind there's a $2.00 
sharing charge.  Any other special orders?
  
Roberta:  No thanks, the rest of us will be ordering off the menu.
  
Receptionist:  And whose name is the reservation under?
  
Roberta:  Harry Potter.
  
Receptionist:  Thanks very much, Ms. Potter, we look forward to 
seeing you on July 22.

[click]

Roberta, waving to the List Elf who encouraged me to post this, some 
months ago.  (She knows who she is.)




From wuff at internode.on.net  Mon Jul 16 07:24:30 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:24:30 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] On eating crow
In-Reply-To: <f7f2q6+bae8@eGroups.com>
References: <f7f2q6+bae8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <469B1D2E.8020300@internode.on.net>

rklarreich wrote:
> In another week, many members of the main list will be faced by the 
> necessity of eating crow, due to errors ranging from mistaken 
> opinions of Snape's loyalties, to whether he is 5'4" or 5'7", to 
> whether Irma Pince is his dear old mum, to whether a certain beloved 
> werewolf is all he seems.

Ahem!

I resent that, *ALL* Werewolves are good, and that's all there is to it.

-- 
                                    Wolfie!

                          Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife.

                         Kookaburra Pub Owner at Eragon.
                      Chief Lupine Security Officer at ABC

                                ICQ - 3449014

                             Skype - Wolfie_storr

                             * Eats a kid a day *

                                Made in Eragon

                          Wolfie! (c) PWTS 1986 - 2007



From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 16 12:06:37 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:06:37 -0400
Subject: new interviews with Jim Dale
In-Reply-To: <f7bbkf+f8vo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY138-F385521B456EDB7BCEA72D2B2F80@phx.gbl>

>From Leaky & Amazon.
http://www.startribune.com/diversions/story/1301795.html
http://www.charlotte.com/200/story/196259.html

_________________________________________________________________
http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507




From agenturk at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 16 16:48:26 2007
From: agenturk at hotmail.com (kaskadersha)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:48:26 -0000
Subject: seeking an OOTP movie buddy in New York?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707141808400.87435@server2.shellworld.net>
Message-ID: <f7g7gq+jq5p@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Karen Lewellen
<klewellen at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> One of the mods suggested I try this one again.  I am looking for
someone
> in the NYC area interested in seeing OOTP  in a unique way.  I am
also
> considering doing a radio story on the experience, which is why I
am
> willing to treat someone to the film.  If you are in the New York
City area
> and are gain, even if you have already seen the film once, drop me
a note
> off list.
>
> Thanks tons,
>
> Karen
>


Hello Karen,

I'm not sure if you've got your man/woman yet, but I'm from NY and I
might be able to go with you.  What exactly did you have in mind?

Marina




From agenturk at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 16 16:40:09 2007
From: agenturk at hotmail.com (kaskadersha)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:40:09 -0000
Subject: New Member
Message-ID: <f7g719+asci@eGroups.com>

Hello all,

My name is Marina and I've just joined the community (30 seconds ago) 
with the purpose of meeting other adults who share my interest in the 
book series.  Since I only have one friend who is as passionate about 
the series as I am, I thought it would be nice to speak to others "like 
myself".  Is anyone here from NY?  Hope to speak to you soon.  Thanks!

M




From sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 16 20:13:01 2007
From: sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com (Dondee Gorski)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:13:01 -0000
Subject: Need help finding Trio photo
Message-ID: <f7gjgd+o20@eGroups.com>

Greetings all,

The July 20th issue of Entertainment Weekly features an article about 
OotP. There is a photo of the trio that takes up the first two pages 
of the article that I have never seen before. I have looked for it in 
the Leaky, Mugglenet and HPFZ galleries with no luck. Does anyone know 
where I can find it?

I read the article here:

http://www.hpana-
media.com/Movies/OotP/Scans/Entertainment_Weekly/07232007.html

Thanks in advance to anyone who can tell me where the photo is.

Cheers, Dondee




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 17 08:27:28 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:27:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: OLD but still GOOD*Harry Potter Photo's*
Message-ID: <c8f.139893ac.33cdd770@aol.com>

Jumping in on this topic without bothering to quote  any of the previous 
posts. I followed the link and enjoyed a very nice slide  show that was all Harry 
Potter related with the exception of the pictures of her  dog and cat, which I 
also enjoyed.  She has some nice memorabilia and I, at  least, thank her for 
sharing it. And Gail, if you read this, how do you keep the  cat and dog from 
knocking over the stand-up display you have? I have one very  similar to it 
but had to put it away because the cats kept knocking over. One of  the darlings 
also pulled down the poster I had on the wall above my computer. 
 
Sandy



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From lysles3 at aol.com  Tue Jul 17 13:23:42 2007
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:23:42 EDT
Subject: Scholastic HP website
Message-ID: <c9b.13ea8107.33ce1cde@aol.com>

I'm just wondering if any of you have checked out the HP web section on  
Scholastic.com.  It is a site geared for children but it's fun.  It's  been 
revamped and has added some new features.  I always enjoy the trivia  game the kids 
have made up.  My own kids have even submitted  questions.  I just played with 
the cover art magnifying glass and that was  neat too.  Just thought I'd ask. 
 

_Harry Potter: Activities in Hogsmeade | Scholastic_ 
(http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/activities/)  
 
Y Hilaire





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From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 17 18:18:58 2007
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: J K R * Harry Potter *
Message-ID: <200707171818.l6HIIx9s016183@upsa-web119.ofoto.com>

	 

You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!*Gail*


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and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos.

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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Tue Jul 17 19:41:26 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:41:26 -0400
Subject: NO WAY!!!
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01gVzanHPl100002248@compdevsys.com>

My girlfriend in Atlanta ordered her copy from deepdiscounts.com and SHE
JUST GOT HER DEATHLY HALLOWS IN THE MAIL TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

 

TOTALLY WRONG OF THEM!!!!!!!!

 

 

Michelle Tague

Phoenixville, PA

 


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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Tue Jul 17 20:01:22 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:01:22 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I KNOW this is the Movie list but...
In-Reply-To: <f7j6gb+6r08@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01HwPyojkl7000022ac@compdevsys.com>

Agreed.  Total bummer? I?m just beginning my re-read of 4 so I?m not evening
opening 7 until I?m finished them all ?so it might be til Sunday afternoon
when I?m ready to open it up? part of me wants to read it slowly and really
absorb it all?but I know I won?t.

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle

   _____  

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of anne_t_squires
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:50 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I KNOW this is the Movie list but...

 

"Michelle Tague" <taguem at ...> wrote:
>
> My friend in Atlanta got her BOOK TODAY!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Deepdiscounts.-com apparently has no qualms about mailing it early!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Michelle 
> 
> Phoenixville, PA
> 
> .
Anne Squires:

Loud sigh of frustration. Not fair. Urg! So frustrating.

I am trying soooo hard to remain spoiler free. I'm picking my book up
at midnight on the 21st. I think I can avoid spoilers on the internet
b/c everyone in the groups I subscribe to puts "Spoiler" in the
subject line and/or spoiler space in the message itself.

I am really, really afraid to overhear someone in the line when I pick
up the book. I'm really nervous about that.

Anne

 


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From ktgoldstein at gmail.com  Tue Jul 17 22:16:44 2007
From: ktgoldstein at gmail.com (kennymod)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:16:44 -0000
Subject: Doctor Who
Message-ID: <f7jf4c+qn92@eGroups.com>

Just love that the most recent Doctor Who shown in the US last week, 
mentions that he read the 7th Book and cried his eyes out, and then 
uses a HP spell at the end.  Classic. 




From zeldazamboni at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 17 23:34:55 2007
From: zeldazamboni at yahoo.com (Zelda Zunk)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:34:55 -0000
Subject: Doctor Who
In-Reply-To: <f7jf4c+qn92@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7jjmv+buns@eGroups.com>

I love it when fandoms collide.  I'm sure that clip will show up on 
Leaky soon.

http://video.the-leaky-cauldron.org/video/664

Zelda Zunk
Corsets & Capes

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kennymod" <ktgoldstein at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Just love that the most recent Doctor Who shown in the US last week, 
> mentions that he read the 7th Book and cried his eyes out, and then 
> uses a HP spell at the end.  Classic.
>





From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 18 02:15:12 2007
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:15:12 -0400
Subject: ~$27 of food for ~$3 Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Gerber food recs?
Message-ID: <1a2738400707171915i4b59f36cuc4785ba2e0410791@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/13/07, justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The fruit (which is almost like jelly, American definition) is really
> good, especially the apricots and plums. You might try it as a topping
> for yogurt.

I bought the following Gerber stuff to try (I may have bought
multiples in the same flavour, so exact counts aren't included):
Graduates mini-fruits banana strawberry
Graduates mini-fruits apple
Graduates finger foods peach puffs
Graduates finger foods strawberry apple puffs
Graduates diced apples
Graduates diced peaches
Graduates turkey meat sticks
Graduates chicken meat sticks
2nd Foods 2pk apple blueberry
2nd Foods 2pk peach cobbler
2nd Foods 2pk pear blueberry oat
2nd Foods 2pk dutch apple
2nd Foods 2pk banana peach granola
2nd Foods 2pk banana orange medley
2nd Foods 2pk apricots with mixed fruit
2nd Foods 2pk apple cherry  (ate already, not bad, berry flavoured applesauce)
3rd Foods bottle pears
3rd Foods bottle banana
3rd Foods bottle peaches

Total of $27.14 before coupons and I ended up "paying"** $2.98, after
numerous prints of the Target coupons at
http://coupons.50webs.org/coupons37/coupon2.html (Pampers diapers
combined theirs with Gerber at
http://us.pampers.com/en_US/emails/everystep_email/Target_Gerber_Webcoupons.pdf)
and the Gerber coupons at http://www.gerber.com/coupons (coupon system
allows you to print twice via hitting the back button and then refuses
to print anymore, unless you switch computers because the java/browser
program remembers for each computer).

I read some interesting suggestions on substituting oils in cooking
desserts and using the fruit sauces as a 'healthier' alternative
instead.

Then there's the gal who said she feeds the Graduates meat sticks to
her boyfriend and her cat... with my perv mind = "so the meat sticks
she puts in her pussy [cat] is also what she puts in her boyfriend...
okay!"

Dina

**Actually, I got money from online bonus signups and used a Target
giftcard, so it's not necessarily 'out of pocket' for me.



From lysles3 at aol.com  Wed Jul 18 18:58:52 2007
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:58:52 EDT
Subject: Scholastic HP website
Message-ID: <cf0.14d0772f.33cfbcec@aol.com>

Alas!  I do apologize about posting the scholastic link.  I did  not realize 
there might be spoiler info there.  Please forgive me.   I'll be more careful 
in future.  

Y Hilaire





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From kkersey at swbell.net  Wed Jul 18 19:41:16 2007
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:41:16 -0000
Subject: Scholastic HP website
In-Reply-To: <cf0.14d0772f.33cfbcec@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f7lqcs+o6n3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, lysles3 at ... wrote:
>
> Alas!  I do apologize about posting the scholastic link.  I did  not
realize 
> there might be spoiler info there.  Please forgive me.   I'll be
more careful 
> in future.  
> 
> Y Hilaire


????? Seems like the Scholastic site would be one of the *least*
likely places to run across spoiler info, at least until the book is
officially published. (Well, maybe in the message boards section, but
I'm sure anyone who is seriously worried about being spoiled isn't
going to be poking their nose in there! In fact, seriously worried
about being spoiled has probably already stopped poking their nose in
here, too.)

Am I missing something? I can't imagine that posting that link was in
any way out of line. 

Just curious,

Elisabet




From pulsahead at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 18 19:57:55 2007
From: pulsahead at sbcglobal.net (Angela)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:57:55 -0000
Subject: US Quidditch Teams?
Message-ID: <f7lrc3+me26@eGroups.com>

Just had to send a link to this news article I found.  I enjoyed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070718/us_nm/arts_potter_quidditch_dc

Ang






From goodasitgets at insightbb.com  Wed Jul 18 21:41:29 2007
From: goodasitgets at insightbb.com (Ronda)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:41:29 -0000
Subject: Withdrawal HP DTs
Message-ID: <f7m1e9+5e66@eGroups.com>

Goodasitgets:
We have usually attended midnight book releases, and my oldest son 
was once even grabbed by and written up in the newspaper for looking 
a lot like Harry, (or at least like Daniel R.)...my son's name - 
Daniel-ha! No, I'm not creepy enough to have named him after Daniel 
R. it was just a coincidence (grin).

As the book release is the first day of our out of state vacation, I 
am searching for a place to get a book!!!
Gasp! Ack! Maybe I won't be able to get one right away!!!!! 
We will be going to New Buffalo, MI so I am scouring the web today 
trying to  find the best place to try to get a book from around our 
vacation spot!  Preferably a midnight party at a bookstore.

IF I can get a book, I will read it over my vacation
week... even though the conclusion will truly be an end of an era.  I 
have been bracing myself for this inevitable occurance by reading as 
much as I can now of past books and stocking up on some other good 
new books that will fill a void once I have read Deathly Hallows.

  No one writes like JK, so nothing is ever as compelling to me as 
her books; but in order to avoid complete and utter depression after 
reading book 7, I will have to accept these other books as the best 
option I have!  

I will not be able to savor this book to make it last as long as 
possible, but instead will have to read it feverishly through the 
night.  If it doesn't come out the way I dream it will, I will
have to go into denail and just pretend that it DID! (It wouldn't be 
the first or last time I would live in my own little fantasy world.) 
I hope you all have a fantastic weekend with a great book!!!
~Goodasitgets





From darksworld at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 18 23:26:57 2007
From: darksworld at yahoo.com (Charles Walker Jr)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:26:57 -0000
Subject: Commendation for the list elves.
Message-ID: <f7m7k1+fe7h@eGroups.com>

This message is certified to be 100% spoiler free.

I would like to commend the list elves on their work to keep HPFGU a
spoiler free place. Their work was not in vain. I was spoiled, but not
here. Thank you, list elves. You have gone above and beyond the call
of duty to assist those who want to remain spoiler free and yet still
discuss the books. Alas, I cannot post anything but this until after
the release- but I will certainly be returning at that point.

Blessed Be!
Charles




From agenturk at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 19 00:28:28 2007
From: agenturk at hotmail.com (kaskadersha)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:28:28 -0000
Subject: Never been to a book opening party...
Message-ID: <f7mb7c+vmmi@eGroups.com>

Hello,

I have never been to a book opening party, can anyone recommend
one in New York?

kaskadersha




From chnc1024 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 02:33:49 2007
From: chnc1024 at yahoo.com (Chancie)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:33:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
Message-ID: <905786.40848.qm@web55710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hey! 
   
  At my local Barnes and Noble, they are giving out arm bands to hold our places in line, starting with pre-orders first, starting at 6pm.  Well last book, they started at 7am; I got there at 6, and there were still over 100 people ahead of me.  How early are you getting in line?  I don't want to be too early to look like a freak, but too late that I have to still be in the store at 2am!  
   
  Thanks,
  Chancie~who really doesn't care if people think she's a "freak" but gets bored easily


Have A Great Day!
  
  Chancie

 
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From chnc1024 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 02:39:55 2007
From: chnc1024 at yahoo.com (Chancie)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:39:55 -0000
Subject: Commendation for the list elves.
In-Reply-To: <f7m7k1+fe7h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7mitr+jufh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Charles Walker Jr" 
<darksworld at ...> wrote:
>
> This message is certified to be 100% spoiler free.
> 
> I would like to commend the list elves on their work to keep HPFGU a
> spoiler free place. Their work was not in vain. I was spoiled, but not
> here. Thank you, list elves. You have gone above and beyond the call
> of duty to assist those who want to remain spoiler free and yet still
> discuss the books. Alas, I cannot post anything but this until after
> the release- but I will certainly be returning at that point.
> 
> Blessed Be!
> Charles
>


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Chancie:

HERE, HERE! *Raises a mug of Butterbeer up to the Elves*

I truely appreciate all of the work that you
all have gone to in order to keep us safe
from those who would have years of waiting 
spoiled for us!  I'm sorry that some of you
unfortunatly got spoiled in the process, but
hope that it will not interfer with your 
enjoyment in the book when you get it in
hand Friday!






From jeopardy18 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 19 03:38:22 2007
From: jeopardy18 at comcast.net (seanmulligan2000)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:38:22 -0000
Subject: A reminder
Message-ID: <f7mmbe+i3fc@eGroups.com>

Remember when you buy the book to tell the sales clerk that you don't 
need a bag. Millions of books will be sold and not getting bags with 
them would make a big difference. 




From anopcfox1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 19 11:23:36 2007
From: anopcfox1 at verizon.net (anopcfox)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:23:36 -0000
Subject: Spoilers:  fighting back
Message-ID: <f7nhjo+hsvo@eGroups.com>

My mother used to say, your right to free expression ends at the 
bridgeof my nose. Free speech is precious but no one has the right 
toyell, "Fire" in a crowded theatre. The selfish gits who want to 
spoilthe party for Potterphiles have a right to do what they please, 
but wedo not have to allow them to spoil the fun. One way to counter 
them isthis:  Shut them down by making a huge number of hits on 
theirwebsites. You do not have to read the contents of the sites to do 
this.Thus, if you get wind of such a site, post it here and remind 
everyoneto pass the word on--shut them down.Just a thought.

anopcfox





From anopcfox1 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 19 11:51:19 2007
From: anopcfox1 at verizon.net (anopcfox)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:51:19 -0000
Subject: Spoiler Warning
Message-ID: <f7nj7n+vmn5@eGroups.com>

Avoid the New York Times--they published a review of the book today. I 
did not read any details in the review, but I wonder why they wanted to 
do that? 

anopcfox




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 12:59:08 2007
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:59:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <905786.40848.qm@web55710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20070719125908.64562.qmail@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My local B&N is giving out wristbands starting at 6:00 pm.  For HBP, I got there at noon, and no one else showed up until about 4:00.  This year, I'm getting there at 7:00 a.m., just because I want my book FIRST.  :-) 

I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a nut. :-)  Like I told my kids (I'm 42, my kids are 18 and 20)....there are worse things I could be obsessed with.  Crack, Internet porn, etc.   Being a Potterhead is relatively harmless.  *lol*



MJ


Chancie <chnc1024 at yahoo.com> wrote:                                  Hey! 
    
   At my local Barnes and Noble, they are giving out arm bands to hold our places in line, starting with pre-orders first, starting at 6pm.  Well last book, they started at 7am; I got there at 6, and there were still over 100 people ahead of me.  How early are you getting in line?  I don't want to be too early to look like a freak, but too late that I have to still be in the store at 2am!  
    
   Thanks,
   Chancie~who really doesn't care if people think she's a "freak" but gets bored easily
 
 Have A Great Day!
   
   Chancie
 
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From kkersey at swbell.net  Thu Jul 19 13:29:35 2007
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:29:35 -0000
Subject: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <f7nj7n+vmn5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7novv+damh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "anopcfox" <anopcfox1 at ...> wrote:
>
> Avoid the New York Times--they published a review of the book today. I 
> did not read any details in the review, but I wonder why they wanted to 
> do that? 
>

Avoid the NYTimes website as well. As in don't go there thinking you
can just read the news and skip the books section. There's a teaser
for the book review right at the top of the front page that gives away
some general information about the *ending*!!!

Which is too bad because the picture on the front page at the website
(don't know about the print edition) looks like a scene from POA - I
swear I can see a rat ducking into that hole...

OK, I think I'll just go bury my head in the sand for a couple of days. 

Elisabet, wishing she had checked in here first instead of pretending
to be all grown up and serious and reading the muggle news. 




From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 19 13:40:44 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:40:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <f7nj7n+vmn5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BAY138-F36D7BF8F49072F6F978645B2FB0@phx.gbl>

I read the review and left it wanting the book even more, but, then, most of 
y'all think I'm nuts for wanting to know ahead anyway. I found very few 
serious info tidbits, but the hints were TANTALIZING!!

>From: "anopcfox" <anopcfox1 at verizon.net>
>
>Avoid the New York Times--they published a review of the book today. I
>did not read any details in the review, but I wonder why they wanted to
>do that?
>
>anopcfox
>

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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 14:08:11 2007
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:08:11 -0400
Subject: Places to Discuss Deathly Hallows while HPfGU (Main) Is Closed
Message-ID: <5913e6f80707190708w5b1ab17fm422192fded3f09cd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! As many of you know, HPfGU will be closing the main list to give
everyone a chance to read the book without being spoiled, but it's
possible that some of you might want to discuss the book before the
list opens. There's a lot of places on the internet where you can -
you can post a review on Amazon, or go to a newspaper's comments
section or talk amongst your friends - but there aren't many places
where you can discuss each chapter as you finish it, without much
concern about being spoiled for forthcoming chapters.


I don't think you can see it yet, but FA's Chapter by Chapter forum
will be at http://forums.fictionalley.org/park/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=248
- BEWARE of chapter titles in that forum!
On LiveJournal, there's
http://community.livejournal.com/discuss_book7/ which also has
chapter-by-chapter formatting, and there's also
http://community.livejournal.com/hallows_reviews where you can post
reviews of the entire book.

These forums will all open tomorrow (Friday) for discussion of the
last Harry Potter book.

Enjoy!

Heidi
FictionAlley.org
Creativity is magic!



From random832 at fastmail.us  Thu Jul 19 16:45:52 2007
From: random832 at fastmail.us (random832 at fastmail.us)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:45:52 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Spoilers:  fighting back
In-Reply-To: <f7nhjo+hsvo@eGroups.com>
References: <f7nhjo+hsvo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1184863552.23889.1201024313@webmail.messagingengine.com>


On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:23:36 -0000, "anopcfox" <anopcfox1 at verizon.net>
said:
> My mother used to say, your right to free expression ends at the 
> bridgeof my nose. Free speech is precious but no one has the right 
> toyell, "Fire" in a crowded theatre. The selfish gits who want to 
> spoilthe party for Potterphiles have a right to do what they please, 
> but wedo not have to allow them to spoil the fun. One way to counter 
> them isthis:  Shut them down by making a huge number of hits on 
> theirwebsites. You do not have to read the contents of the sites to do 
> this.Thus, if you get wind of such a site, post it here and remind 
> everyoneto pass the word on--shut them down.Just a thought.

Spoilers are just rude, DDOS attacks are widely accepted to be illegal.
-- 
Random832




From ceridwennight at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 19 17:22:49 2007
From: ceridwennight at hotmail.com (Ceridwen)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:22:49 -0000
Subject: Spoilers:  fighting back
In-Reply-To: <f7nhjo+hsvo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7o6l9+6jbo@eGroups.com>

anopcfox:
> My mother used to say, your right to free expression ends at the 
> bridgeof my nose. Free speech is precious but no one has the right 
> toyell, "Fire" in a crowded theatre. The selfish gits who want to 
> spoilthe party for Potterphiles have a right to do what they 
please, 
> but wedo not have to allow them to spoil the fun. One way to 
counter 
> them isthis:  Shut them down by making a huge number of hits on 
> theirwebsites. You do not have to read the contents of the sites to 
do 
> this.Thus, if you get wind of such a site, post it here and remind 
> everyoneto pass the word on--shut them down.Just a thought.

Ceridwen:
The problem is, many of the spoiler sites, or sites that *claim* to 
have spoilers, prominently display their spoilers on their entry 
pages and elsewhere.  If you go to one of those sites, you most 
likely WILL see at least one spoiler.  Depending on the site, you may 
see several.

Also, in my opinion, asking people to post links to spoiler sites 
might tempt someone to post a link directly to some HUGE SPOILER IN 
NEON RED, just for the sadistic fun of torturing people who don't 
want to know.

Ceridwen.




From pulsahead at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 19 17:33:31 2007
From: pulsahead at sbcglobal.net (Angela Hanson)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-F36D7BF8F49072F6F978645B2FB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <338606.46776.qm@web82011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lee Truslow <specialcritters at hotmail.com> wrote:
I read the review and left it wanting the book even more, but, then, most of y'all think I'm nuts for wanting to know ahead anyway. I found very few serious info tidbits, but the hints were TANTALIZING!!

Ang:
I had a friend (that hasn't read HP *gasp*) and she edited it down to what I wanted to know....a review of the book without the spoilers.  And she said, she wouldn't have wanted to know half of what they were saying in the review if it were her....
   
I guess it is good to have a few friends that don't read Harry Potter.... :)
   



From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 18:07:20 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:20 -0000
Subject: JKR's silence (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <f7o98o+n8l3@eGroups.com>

I was (and am) disappointed about the lack of clues on JKR's website.
That was part of the fun of waiting for HBP. And I'm puzzled by her
lack of reaction to the NY Times article and especially to the
supposed scan of the last two pages of the book. I haven't seen either
one as I don't want to be spoiled, so I'm working in the dark here.
Can it be that she doesn't want to draw attention to them or credit
them as being accurate? Or maybe the NY Times spoilers are minor and
the two-page spread (or whatever it is) is a gigantic hoax? Surely, it
can't be that she's unaware of them. If they're real, she must be fuming.

At any rate, I'm not going to write to the New York Times (even though
I've mentally formulated a letter) until I've read the review, and I'm
not going to read the review until I've read the book. It does seem
irresponsible, not to mention inconsiderate, to post a review before
the millions of HP fans can possibly have read the book even if the
spoilers are minor. Maybe they're thinking of it in the same terms as
an advance review of a film, an enticement to readers (instead of
viewers)? People do read film reviews to decide whether a film is
worth seeing, and we do watch movie trailers. Surely, that can be the
Times reviewer's only motive. And yet who in the world is planning to
read DH without having read at least the majority of the other books?
No one here needs background information on HRH or the Dursleys or
Voldemort or Snape or Horcruxes or whatever the article talks about.
Again, I have not read it and will not do so until after I've read the
book.

As for the revelation of the last two pages, assuming that it's real,
it's reprehensible. Sure, some people don't care about spoilers, but
what about those of us who do?

BTW, there's a poll at Leaky (which I couldn't access because so many
people were apparently using the site) where you can vote on what to
do with people who spoil the books. The choices include handing them
over to Snape and handing them over to Fluffy. I think Filch is also a
choice (he'd need his whips and manacles to be effective) as is
Umbridge. Too bad they didn't offer "All of the above" as a choice.

Carol, wondering how any unauthorized person could have obtained a
copy of the book and why any authorized person would so blatantly
violate the trust that was placed in him or her




From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 19 18:13:00 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:13:00 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <338606.46776.qm@web82011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY138-F224C19E4051545F0735096B2FB0@phx.gbl>

I'm not the only one that thinks it wasn't all that revealing!!
http://www.amazon.com/NY-Times-Released-Early-Review/forum/Fx2KME5D081OEJH/TxL6R51SQM6WPT/1/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp/104-3558435-1123931?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdItems=25&cdAnchor=0545010225&asin=0545010225

>From: Angela Hanson <pulsahead at sbcglobal.net>
>Ang:
>I had a friend (that hasn't read HP *gasp*) and she edited it down to what 
>I wanted to know....a review of the book without the spoilers.  And she 
>said, she wouldn't have wanted to know half of what they were saying in the 
>review if it were her....
>
>I guess it is good to have a few friends that don't read Harry Potter.... 
>:)
>

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From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 18:39:27 2007
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:39:27 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-F224C19E4051545F0735096B2FB0@phx.gbl>
References: <338606.46776.qm@web82011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	 <BAY138-F224C19E4051545F0735096B2FB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0707191139v65466cdfjd6de40221975ae4f@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/19/07, Lee Truslow <specialcritters at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not the only one that thinks it wasn't all that revealing!!
> http://www.amazon.com/NY-Times-Released-Early-Review/forum/Fx2KME5D081OEJH/TxL6R51SQM6WPT/1/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp/104-3558435-1123931?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdItems=25&cdAnchor=0545010225&asin=0545010225
>

I'm with you.  It wasn't revealing at all.  While there were things
that were technically spoilers in the "review," there was nothing that
could truly spoil the book for you.  There were no answers to the big
questions - well, there was that note telling us what Deathly Hallows
refer to, but it didn't explain anything.  In other words, it's much
akin to HP being a detective/mystery novel and the review giving us
one or two new clues.  It's nothing major, and I don't understand all
the big fuss being kicked up about it.

But then, I don't mind spoilers since I believe that book reading is
as much a journey, but then, that's likely why I don't understand the
seemingly-intense anger that some people are feeling.

~Ali



From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 18:46:37 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:46:37 -0000
Subject: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <b6e131bf0707191139v65466cdfjd6de40221975ae4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f7obid+gsfa@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "P. Alexis Nguyen" 
<alexisnguyen at ...> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/07, Lee Truslow <specialcritters at ...> wrote:
> > I'm not the only one that thinks it wasn't all that revealing!!
> > http://www.amazon.com/NY-Times-Released-Early-
Review/forum/Fx2KME5D081OEJH/TxL6R51SQM6WPT/1/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp/104-
3558435-1123931?%
5Fencoding=UTF8&cdItems=25&cdAnchor=0545010225&asin=0545010225
> >
> 
> I'm with you.  It wasn't revealing at all.  While there were things
> that were technically spoilers in the "review," there was nothing 
that
> could truly spoil the book for you.  There were no answers to the 
big
> questions - well, there was that note telling us what Deathly 
Hallows
> refer to, but it didn't explain anything.  In other words, it's much
> akin to HP being a detective/mystery novel and the review giving us
> one or two new clues.  It's nothing major, and I don't understand 
all
> the big fuss being kicked up about it.
> 
> But then, I don't mind spoilers since I believe that book reading is
> as much a journey, but then, that's likely why I don't understand 
the
> seemingly-intense anger that some people are feeling.
> 
> ~Ali
>



Alla:

Um, probably because many people want to read the book and be 
suprised without **anybody** spoiling the surprise of whether Snape 
is good or bad, Harry lives or dies, etc, etc?

To experience the shock of death or the joy that happy ending is 
going to happen first hand?


I **love** spoilers and am reading them, especialy for last Potter 
book - there was no way I would start to read the book without 
knowing that Harry lives or dies for example - NO, not saying 
anything, but boy oh boy I want so much to protect the people who 
want to stay fresh of them, because I totally understand the anger 
they are feeling of those who want to spoil their joy of discovery of 
what is going to happen in the saga that we all spent years reading 
and rereading and debating, etc. 




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 19:06:11 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:06:11 -0000
Subject: JKR's silence (no spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <f7o98o+n8l3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7ocn3+93jv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I was (and am) disappointed about the lack of clues on JKR's website.
> That was part of the fun of waiting for HBP. And I'm puzzled by her
> lack of reaction to the NY Times article and especially to the
> supposed scan of the last two pages of the book. I haven't seen either
> one as I don't want to be spoiled, so I'm working in the dark here.
> Can it be that she doesn't want to draw attention to them or credit
> them as being accurate? Or maybe the NY Times spoilers are minor and
> the two-page spread (or whatever it is) is a gigantic hoax? Surely, it
> can't be that she's unaware of them. If they're real, she must be 
fuming.
> 
<SNIP>


Alla:

She did respond and she did not sound happy at all to me.




From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 22:50:01 2007
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:50:01 -0000
Subject: Annemehr's  most cherished predictions
Message-ID: <f7opqp+b8l8@eGroups.com>

STONED!HARRY --- Annemehr's variant

I have always had a liking for the Stoned!Harry theory, and posted my 
own take on it once:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/51832

The heart of it is this:
===============================
Back in post #38542, Caroline, in a stroke of brilliance, looked up
the philosopher's stone in "The Dictionary of Symbols" (Penguin,
1994), and came up with the following:

The philosopher's stone, in RL alchemy, was considered to be made of
Sulpher + Mercury, and they were symbolized thus:
Sulpher: stag, phoenix, lion, the color red.
Mercury: serpent, unicorn, the color green.
(The stone itself was called cinnabar and was symbolized by dragon's
blood).

In art, the creation of the philosopher's stone was symbolized by the
coming together of a stag and a unicorn.

My own take on the theory is this:

Perhaps James and Lily are *both*
represented in the sulpher component, and it is Voldemort who is
represented in the mercury component, thus:

Sulpher: red (Gryffindor, James and Lily's Hogwarts House)
stag - James; phoenix - Lily (possibly to be better explained
in OoP, and also maybe that in her death she gave Harry
life), and of course, the lion (Gryffindor again).

Mercury: green (Slytherin, Voldemort's house), the serpent (slytherin
again), and the unicorn.

How do we reconcile a pure and innocent unicorn being part of
Voldemort's role in this? I propose that in his many magical
experiments and transformations that Dumbledore refers to Tom Riddle
undergoing after leaving Hogwarts, that one or more of them involved
using unicorn blood to try to achieve immortality.

I think that Harry was not *born* as the living philosopher's stone.
I think that he *became* one on the night that Voldemort tried to AK
him but failed, *transferring some of his powers* -- and *essence* --
to Harry that night.
=========================

Later on I go on to include way more Christian symbolism than I now 
think is warranted, but I did say one thing I still really hope to 
see:

Perhaps Harry is, in some real way, Voldemort's personal 
Philosopher's Stone, and this will play the critical role in the 
denoument.


HARRY HAS THE POWER OF POSSESSION

Back in December, 2004 I posted an analysis of the possibility that 
Harry received the power of Possession from Voldemort.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/119783

I won't reproduce it here.  And of course, many people, beginning in 
the very earliest days of this list, have wondered if LV 
had "accidentally" transferred this power to Harry.  I did do the 
first post-length analysis of the subject that I know of, and I still 
think Harry's OoP experiences of "being" the snake, and the long-
fingered man Crucioing Avery, are the signs that he is *just* at the 
edge of actually doing possession on LV.

LILY'S SACRIFICE, REPRISE (SORT OF)

I have always thought that whatever Harry has to do in the end with 
Voldemort, it would echo, or reflect, or otherwise reenact Lily's 
sacrifce in some way.  I'm still sure of it.

TALISMAN'S THEORIES

Guilty!DD, Dark Mirror  -- I love 'em.  The most exciting theories on 
the list, and I do think she's right (save, *maybe*, for the odd 
detail ;))

Geez, 6:49 already????  Better post!

Annemehr






From drdara at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 02:11:36 2007
From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
Message-ID: <620889.59837.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>

I get off work at 4:30pm, I need to stop by my other job and get my paystub, and see if someone picked up my saturday shift, so i don't have to be at work at 8am. Last time I just showed up and waited for a while to get my copy. This time I did reserve my book and should hopefully be there by 6pm. Its gonna be a long nite, but hopefully a fun one. :)

Danielle

MJ:
My local B&N is giving out wristbands starting at 6:00 pm. For HBP, I got there at noon, and no one else showed up until about 4:00. This year, I'm getting there at 7:00 a.m., just because I want my book FIRST. :-) 

I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a nut. :-) Like I told my kids (I'm 42, my kids are 18 and 20)....there are worse things I could be obsessed with. Crack, Internet porn, etc. Being a Potterhead is relatively harmless. *lol*

MJ

Chancie <chnc1024 at yahoo. com> wrote: Hey! 

At my local Barnes and Noble, they are giving out arm bands to hold our places in line, starting with pre-orders first, starting at 6pm. Well last book, they started at 7am; I got there at 6, and there were still over 100 people ahead of me. How early are you getting in line? I don't want to be too early to look like a freak, but too late that I have to still be in the store at 2am! 

Thanks,
Chancie~who really doesn't care if people think she's a "freak" but gets bored easily

Have A Great Day!

Chancie

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From jeopardy18 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 02:14:31 2007
From: jeopardy18 at comcast.net (seanmulligan2000)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:14:31 -0000
Subject: Spoilers:  fighting back
In-Reply-To: <f7nhjo+hsvo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7p5q7+irl1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "anopcfox" <anopcfox1 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> My mother used to say, your right to free expression ends at the 
> bridgeof my nose. Free speech is precious but no one has the right 
> toyell, "Fire" in a crowded theatre. The selfish gits who want to 
> spoilthe party for Potterphiles have a right to do what they please, 
> but wedo not have to allow them to spoil the fun. One way to counter 
> them isthis:  Shut them down by making a huge number of hits on 
> theirwebsites. You do not have to read the contents of the sites to 
do 
> this.Thus, if you get wind of such a site, post it here and remind 
> everyoneto pass the word on--shut them down.Just a thought.
> 
> anopcfox
>

I saw Keith Olbermann tonight and they had a story about newspapers 
that have already printed reviews of the new Harry Potter book.  I 
think that they should wait at least a week after the book come out 
for newspapers to publish reviews of it. Printing news of it 
immediately is not the same as printing news of government corruption 
orother scandals. They can wait a few days so that most of the diehard 
fans will have read it already. 




From coriolan at worldnet.att.net  Fri Jul 20 02:27:02 2007
From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:27:02 -0000
Subject: FILK: Online
Message-ID: <f7p6hm+g8nd@eGroups.com>

Online 

To the tune of Downtown by Petunia Clark

You-tube performance at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRK0ZeMB4gI 

If you've a thirst that can't wait for the 21st
You can always go - on-line
If for Malfoy you're in great need of a spoiler
You can find Hallow - on-line
You'll have to wait `til Saturday if you go to a bookstore
If you simply Google it, you will not have to look more. 
Who could refuse?

   Will the Boy Who Lived get killed?
   And why did Snape murder Dumble? Will Vernon get drilled?
   So go on-line, you'll all the spoilers see
   On-line - no JK royalties 
   On-line ? that is what Voldy would do

Do not say maybe, find out who is R.A.B.,
Take a little peep - on-line
Find out who dies so that they'll be no surprises
Like a total creep - on-line
Go to the nearest terminal and bring your Hand of Glory 
Before you know it, you'll be blabbing the entire story
On CNN.

   Will the Boy Who Lived get killed?
   And why did Snape murder Dumble? Will Vernon get drilled?
   So go on-line, you'll all the spoilers see
   On-line - no JK royalties 
   On-line ? that is what Voldy would do

For many fans have made their plans for this book to be viewin'; 
Some dumb sap opens his trap to all their weekends ruin
Like New York Times. 

   Will the Boy Who Lived survive?
   And will Hogwarts re-open? Will Fleur be Bill's wife?
   Just go on-line, and ruin all the fun
   On-line ? you're outing Lily's son
   On-line ? taking the magic away

On-line, on-line, on-line, on-line ...

    -  CMC

HARRY POTTER FILKS
http://home.att.net/~coriolan/hpfilks.htm





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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Fri Jul 20 11:46:06 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:46:06 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <620889.59837.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE010Kz8uNiLP00004661@compdevsys.com>

37 year old addict here as well.  MJ you made me laugh


 

I?m excited!  I?m ? through HBP and am ready to crack open my book
tonight/tomorrow
 I?ve never done a midnight pickup
 I?m going to try
tonight!

 

 

Michelle

Phoenixville, PA 

   _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of danielle dassero
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:12 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ok, so when are you going to line up at the
store????

 

I get off work at 4:30pm, I need to stop by my other job and get my paystub,
and see if someone picked up my saturday shift, so i don't have to be at
work at 8am. Last time I just showed up and waited for a while to get my
copy. This time I did reserve my book and should hopefully be there by 6pm.
Its gonna be a long nite, but hopefully a fun one. :)

Danielle

MJ:
My local B&N is giving out wristbands starting at 6:00 pm. For HBP, I got
there at noon, and no one else showed up until about 4:00. This year, I'm
getting there at 7:00 a.m., just because I want my book FIRST. :-) 

I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a nut. :-) Like I told my kids (I'm 42, my
kids are 18 and 20)....there are worse things I could be obsessed with.
Crack, Internet porn, etc. Being a Potterhead is relatively harmless. *lol*

MJ

Chancie <chnc1024 at yahoo. com> wrote: Hey! 

At my local Barnes and Noble, they are giving out arm bands to hold our
places in line, starting with pre-orders first, starting at 6pm. Well last
book, they started at 7am; I got there at 6, and there were still over 100
people ahead of me. How early are you getting in line? I don't want to be
too early to look like a freak, but too late that I have to still be in the
store at 2am! 

Thanks,
Chancie~who really doesn't care if people think she's a "freak" but gets
bored easily

Have A Great Day!

Chancie

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From chnc1024 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 11:44:14 2007
From: chnc1024 at yahoo.com (Chancie)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: THE DOOR IS OPEN!!!
Message-ID: <325293.55613.qm@web55702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

We've been wondering why there have been no updates on
  JKR's site, maybe she listened?  
   
  Chancie


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From bumbledor at comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 16:08:03 2007
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:08:03 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] THE DOOR IS OPEN!!!
References: <325293.55613.qm@web55702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003901c7cae8$26e60260$6401a8c0@bumbledor>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chancie" <chnc1024 at yahoo.com>
To: "OT Chatter" <hpfgu-otchatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:44 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] THE DOOR IS OPEN!!!


> We've been wondering why there have been no updates on
>  JKR's site, maybe she listened?
>
>  Chancie
>
>
> Have A Great Day!
>
>  Chancie

Maybe shes still ticked off at the American Press for printing spoilers 
before the book release?




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From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
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From emmaejones at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 15:50:15 2007
From: emmaejones at gmail.com (Unspeakable)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:50:15 -0000
Subject: Book7.co.uk (evidence-based synopsis) - final speculation
Message-ID: <f7qljn+r72f@eGroups.com>

Just to let you know that I have prepared one final editorial on the
(wider) mysterious of time-travel in Harry Potter and the possible
implications for Deathly Hallows 
 it is packed full of speculations,
evidence and argument (but no DH spoilers, I'm looking forward to
reading the book tonight - and discovering if my crystal ball was
working for any of the time!). It can be read here: http://book7.co.uk/




From sdeepthi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 17:33:47 2007
From: sdeepthi at yahoo.com (sdeepthi)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:33:47 -0000
Subject: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <EXCHANGE010Kz8uNiLP00004661@compdevsys.com>
Message-ID: <f7qrlr+m0o8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michelle Tague" <taguem at ...> wrote:
>
> 37 year old addict here as well.  MJ you made me laugh

> 
>  
> 
> I'm excited!  I'm ? through HBP and am ready to crack open my book
> tonight/tomorrow
 I've never done a midnight pickup
 I'm going to try
> tonight!
> 

It will be the first midnight pickup for this 31-year-old mom of two as well.
At 2 & 4, my kids are too young to think (realize?) that their mom _is_ crazy :)

But OTOH, I can't wait  for them to grow up and love HP as much as I do.

- Blue Streak




From bumbledor at comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 18:57:44 2007
From: bumbledor at comcast.net (bumbledor)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:57:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] FREE Kodak "Harry Potter" & 'safe' news *
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To: <hpfgu-otchatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] FREE Kodak "Harry Potter" & 'safe' news *


> 
> 
> You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!*Gail*
> 
> 
> You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery!
> Just click on View Photos to get started.
> http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=brptja83.1sc0tszj&x=1&h=1&y=-uuib5o
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Tried to view it, but they want me to sign up for something.. No thanks.




From taguem at jmsearch.com  Sat Jul 21 00:30:20 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:30:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <f7qrlr+m0o8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01teReBBFEs00004cc0@compdevsys.com>

I didn?t reserve a copy at any of the stores
 do you think I should go
anyway?  I was just chatting with 2 12 year olds who were heading out all
dressed up for a book store.. dammit
 

 

Mine are 3 & 8
 the 8 yo thinks he?s going
but I don?t even know if I am
.

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

   _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sdeepthi
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:34 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the
store????

 

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter%40yahoogroups.com"HPFGU-OTChatter at -yahoogroups.-com,
"Michelle Tague" <taguem at ...> wrote:
>
> 37 year old addict here as well. MJ you made me laugh

> 
> 
> 
> I'm excited! I'm ? through HBP and am ready to crack open my book
> tonight/tomorrow
 I've never done a midnight pickup
 I'm going to try
> tonight!
> 

It will be the first midnight pickup for this 31-year-old mom of two as
well.
At 2 & 4, my kids are too young to think (realize?) that their mom _is_
crazy :)

But OTOH, I can't wait for them to grow up and love HP as much as I do.

- Blue Streak

 


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From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 01:14:18 2007
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:14:18 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <EXCHANGE01teReBBFEs00004cc0@compdevsys.com>
References: <f7qrlr+m0o8@eGroups.com>
	 <EXCHANGE01teReBBFEs00004cc0@compdevsys.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0707201814i49df947csa177165083f3a5e0@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/20/07, Michelle Tague <taguem at jmsearch.com> wrote:
> I didn't reserve a copy at any of the stores? do you think I should go
>  anyway?  I was just chatting with 2 12 year olds who were heading out all
>  dressed up for a book store.. dammit?
>
>  Mine are 3 & 8? the 8 yo thinks he's going?but I don't even know if I am?.
>
>  Have a great day!
>
>  Michelle Tague


It depends on how late you think your kids can stay up.  If you didn't
reserve a book, you're going to be there much later than the rest of
the crowd, most of whom will have a book reserved and will therefore
have a spot in line before you.  On the other hand, it might be fun
for the kids to go anyway, and you can just run and pick up a book
tomorrow morning.

~Ali



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sat Jul 21 02:23:41 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:23:41 -0400
Subject: OOTP Movie--No Spoilers but blind thought
Message-ID: <0JLI00KRQBZRH4N0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Well, hi guys and gals,

My brother and I (who are blind) and my husband (who is not) went to see
OOTP tonight after a lovely dinner together.  Unfortunately, due to my
stupidity, we missed the first 15 minutes, but the rest of it was, in my
opinion, well worth being there.

Because I knew the book so well, I really had very little trouble following
and hardly sought my husband, Art's help.  In fact, I was helping out my
brother who was slightly confused as to which character was which.  That,
for me, was a pleasure!  With Goblet, I was seeking help a lot more than I
felt I should have had to.

Suffice it to say that I had a most enjoyable evening and just had to extol
and send my good feelings out.

Cheers,

Lee :-) (Grinning most broadly!)

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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 03:16:47 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:16:47 -0000
Subject: Ironing my hands
Message-ID: <f7rtqv+87ke@eGroups.com>

This 'elf' is ironing her hands and hitting her head with the wall...

I have done wrong, of that I'm sure...

I have acted illegally...

I couldn't wait...

I searched for the Deathly Hallows in my P2P program (emule)...

I read the book...

Was it the real one? I don't know...

I'm getting the real one in 2 hours....

Sorry Jo for my eagerness...

I liked the book... I don't know if it was a real copy

Back to ironing my hands

I'm sorry I couldn't handle the wait


Juli




From demeter at jimmycat.com  Sat Jul 21 09:07:52 2007
From: demeter at jimmycat.com (lydiaccc)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:07:52 -0000
Subject: JKR's silence (no spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <f7ocn3+93jv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7sid8+lrm4@eGroups.com>

> Alla:
> 
> She did respond and she did not sound happy at all to me.
>

Where did she respond?  I'd be very interested to read her response.




From demeter at jimmycat.com  Sat Jul 21 09:20:28 2007
From: demeter at jimmycat.com (lydiaccc)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:20:28 -0000
Subject: Withdrawal HP DTs
In-Reply-To: <f7m1e9+5e66@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7sj4s+rg80@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Ronda" <goodasitgets at ...> wrote:
>
> in order to avoid complete and utter depression after 
> reading book 7, I will have to accept these other books as the best 
> option I have!  
> 
I totally know how you feel, facing complete and utter depression.  Me
too.  It's so bad for me that I have the book right here in front of
me, and I'm refusing to read it.  I think I'll just go to bed instead
of staying up all night long reading it.  Maybe I'll just ignore it
for several more days.  I can't deal with the series ending, I just
can't.  If I did wait on reading it, I'd have to totally avoid any
news site or HP site because of spoilers, which would be difficult.  I
don't know what I'm gonna do.



>If it doesn't come out the way I dream it will, I will
> have to go into denail and just pretend that it DID! (It wouldn't be 
> the first or last time I would live in my own little fantasy world.) 
>
I think I will have to go into massive denial if it isn't a totally
satisfying literary experience.  One thing I've always kind of gone
into denial about is the story's treatment of house-elves; they really
do deserve to have their consciousness raised about how enslaved they
really are.  One theory is that the house-elves will be given wands
and will be part of the army of the Light in this book.  I hope it
comes true.  Sigh.




From leekaiwen at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 09:20:55 2007
From: leekaiwen at yahoo.com (C John Edward Culver)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:20:55 -0000
Subject: Ironing my hands
In-Reply-To: <f7rtqv+87ke@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7sj5n+o37v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at ...> wrote:

> I searched for the Deathly Hallows in my P2P program (emule)...
> 
> I read the book...

I did, as well, but I honestly don't feel guilty about it, as I
pre-ordered it from Amazon months ago.

Either I'm not guilty, or twice guilty (guilty again for not feeling
no remorse).

CJ




From demeter at jimmycat.com  Sat Jul 21 09:54:52 2007
From: demeter at jimmycat.com (lydiaccc)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:54:52 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
Message-ID: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>

I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
(OK, I read the first page, but that's it).  I am too afraid that my
life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
another book to look forward to.  I'm too afraid that the miracles HP
has brought into my life - knowing I'm a part of something, fanfic,
slash, etc. - will go away after everyone reads this book.  I know
rationally that HP fanfic will continue to be written for a long time,
and the conventions will probably only grow.  Probably it's just
superstition on my part - if I don't read the final book then somehow
I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom.  But here I sit, looking
at it, not knowing when I'll open it up.  Does anyone else relate to this?




From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 10:04:59 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:04:59 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7slob+i2k8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:

> I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
> (OK, I read the first page, but that's it).  I am too afraid that my
> life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
> another book to look forward to.  
<SNIP>
> Does anyone else relate to this?

Goddlefrood:

I've finished the book, but make no comments on it here. There are 
plenty of other good books out there bith new and old. A bookmark I 
own has some sage advice:

"If you haven't read it, it's a new book."

Life will go on, let me assure you ;-)





From drdara at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 10:26:15 2007
From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:26:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
Message-ID: <876310.38427.qm@web60719.mail.yahoo.com>

Please must have someone to speak to about book. pleaseeeeeeeeeeee help me. if you have finished the book and would like to talk about it please feel free to im me.

Danielle

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter@ yahoogroups. com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ... > wrote:

> I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
> (OK, I read the first page, but that's it). I am too afraid that my
> life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
> another book to look forward to. 
<SNIP>
> Does anyone else relate to this?

Goddlefrood:

I've finished the book, but make no comments on it here. There are 
plenty of other good books out there bith new and old. A bookmark I 
own has some sage advice:

"If you haven't read it, it's a new book."

Life will go on, let me assure you ;-)





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From wuff at internode.on.net  Sat Jul 21 10:35:20 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:35:20 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand
 to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
References: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <46A1E168.6000303@internode.on.net>

lydiaccc wrote:
> I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
> (OK, I read the first page, but that's it).  I am too afraid that my
> life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
> another book to look forward to.  I'm too afraid that the miracles HP
> has brought into my life - knowing I'm a part of something, fanfic,
> slash, etc. - will go away after everyone reads this book.  I know
> rationally that HP fanfic will continue to be written for a long time,
> and the conventions will probably only grow.  Probably it's just
> superstition on my part - if I don't read the final book then somehow
> I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom.  But here I sit, looking
> at it, not knowing when I'll open it up.  Does anyone else relate to this?

Think of it more like a chain reaction, as this spark will set off 
others who will write and turn out brilliant stories.

Plus I tend to think HPs world is a bit like Star Trek, and there could
be spinoffs... JKR hasn't confirmed anything, wisely so.

She may be tempted to write more, better for her to say that she *might*
to prevent her being hassled later.

I personally think she will.

Harry is her Mickey Mouse.

Wolfie!



From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 21 10:56:44 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:56:44 -0400
Subject: Kitties practice magic with Harry Potter readings
In-Reply-To: <46A1E168.6000303@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <BAY138-F39A5B17E965D26E4AB362FB2F50@phx.gbl>

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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Sat Jul 21 11:30:01 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:30:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01XFWNm1eVX00004fb8@compdevsys.com>

Totally do? I didn?t go last night? kicking myself a little over that? the
bits I saw on the news looked fun? 

 

I?m excited but scared? I want a happy ending? I want harry to be happy?.
I?m waiting on the mailman?but don?t know if I?ll start reading it? for most
of what you said?I enjoy many different types of books?but I?m in love with
Harry Potter?s world.  I want to be a part of it?I want it to be real?

 

Glad to have other adults who are as emotionally vested as I am?.

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

Office Manager

JM & Company 

1045 First Avenue, Ste. 110

 

   _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lydiaccc
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:55 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to
have it all end

 

I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
(OK, I read the first page, but that's it). I am too afraid that my
life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
another book to look forward to. I'm too afraid that the miracles HP
has brought into my life - knowing I'm a part of something, fanfic,
slash, etc. - will go away after everyone reads this book. I know
rationally that HP fanfic will continue to be written for a long time,
and the conventions will probably only grow. Probably it's just
superstition on my part - if I don't read the final book then somehow
I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom. But here I sit, looking
at it, not knowing when I'll open it up. Does anyone else relate to this?

 


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From jenn at phynn-phamily.us  Sat Jul 21 14:30:08 2007
From: jenn at phynn-phamily.us (Jenn)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:30:08 -0000
Subject: I've finished the book
In-Reply-To: <f7t27q+795c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7t59g+5bk4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "hogwarts2oo7" <hogwarts2007 at ...> wrote:
>
> I got it in the early hours - just before 1.00 am (queued from 
> midnight).  I stayed up half the night reading before I just couldn't 
> keep my eyes open any longer, and then finished it when I woke up
> 
> It is the most amazing book!
>
well, me too! 
I WAS going to savor it as it is the last one, but as I am the mother of two younglings who 
often keep me very busy, & as someone who just couln't wait (worse than Christmas!)  I got 
going on the book  at about 230 & got to  the last page at about 9 am.  (yeah, I know, I'm 
fast. ) Now I just wait until  my Harry is  of an age to  get to the books.  Gonna be a while, he 
turns 3 this summer.  
It was worse than cigarettes, coffee or any other substance!!  
Poppy/ Jenn




From anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 17:00:45 2007
From: anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Lambert)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:00:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: I've finished the book - SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <f7t59g+5bk4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <13953.26668.qm@web52708.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



Jenn <jenn at phynn-phamily.us> wrote:          --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "hogwarts2oo7" <hogwarts2007 at ...> wrote:
>
> I got it in the early hours - just before 1.00 am (queued from 
> midnight). I stayed up half the night reading before I just couldn't 
> keep my eyes open any longer, and then finished it when I woke up
> 
> It is the most amazing book!
>
well, me too! 
I WAS going to savor it as it is the last one, but as I am the mother of two younglings who 
often keep me very busy, & as someone who just couln't wait (worse than Christmas!) I got 
going on the book at about 230 & got to the last page at about 9 am. (yeah, I know, I'm 
fast. ) Now I just wait until my Harry is of an age to get to the books. Gonna be a while, he 
turns 3 this summer. 
It was worse than cigarettes, coffee or any other substance!! 
Poppy/ Jenn


  KATIE REPLIES:
  I am with you severely sleep-deprived ladies. Wow. Wow. Wow. Is all I can say. Wow. What did you think of the Epilogue, specifically? I loved it. It felt like the circle was complete.


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From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 18:45:16 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:45:16 -0000
Subject: NO SPOILERS HERE,  PLEASE    WAS:  Re: I've finished the book - SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <13953.26668.qm@web52708.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f7tk7s+ftlg@eGroups.com>

> 
>   KATIE REPLIES:
>   I am with you severely sleep-deprived ladies. Wow. Wow. Wow. Is 
all I can say. Wow. What did you think of the Epilogue, 
specifically? I loved it. It felt like the circle was complete.
> 



I finished half of the book and epilogue as well :). But per our 
spoiler policy OTC is spoiler free sone.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167822


 So, please do not discuss 
the epilogue or any **other** part of the story here. We want to 
make sure that members who still have not read the last book can 
still talk about other books here.
  In this message you can see the sites where you CAN discuss the 
book right now :) Thanks Heidi.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/32502

Alika Elf




From ceridwennight at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 21 18:59:01 2007
From: ceridwennight at hotmail.com (Ceridwen)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:59:01 -0000
Subject: NO SPOILERS HERE,  PLEASE    WAS:  Re: I've finished the book - SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <f7tk7s+ftlg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7tl1l+eiu1@eGroups.com>

KATIE:
> >   I am with you severely sleep-deprived ladies. Wow. Wow. Wow. Is 
> all I can say. Wow. What did you think of the Epilogue, 
> specifically? I loved it. It felt like the circle was complete.

Alika Elf:
> I finished half of the book and epilogue as well :). But per our 
> spoiler policy OTC is spoiler free sone.
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167822
*(snip)* 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/32502


Ceridwen:
There is also the chat room:  http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574  I'm 
not quite halfway through myself, but I'll catch up!




From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 21 19:37:44 2007
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:37:44 -0000
Subject: NO SPOILERS HERE,  PLEASE    WAS:  Re: I've finished the book - SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <f7tl1l+eiu1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7tna8+tao8@eGroups.com>

> Ceridwen:
> There is also the chat room:  http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574  I'm 
> not quite halfway through myself, but I'll catch up!


Jen:  For Chatzy, enter the password: HPfGUchat then click "Join Chat" 
on the lower right, and you're in.




From hogwarts2007 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 19:49:11 2007
From: hogwarts2007 at gmail.com (hogwarts2oo7)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:49:11 -0000
Subject: NO SPOILERS HERE,  PLEASE    WAS:  Re: I've finished the book - SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <f7tna8+tao8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7tnvn+r3uv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at ...> 
wrote:
>
> > Ceridwen:
> > There is also the chat room:  http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574  
I'm 
> > not quite halfway through myself, but I'll catch up!
> 
> 
> Jen:  For Chatzy, enter the password: HPfGUchat then click "Join 
Chat" 
> on the lower right, and you're in.
>


That's weird then since the blurb on the group clearly says mark 
Deathly Hallows posts if they have spoilers.





From stevejjen at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 21 19:58:03 2007
From: stevejjen at earthlink.net (Jen Reese)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:58:03 -0000
Subject: Password for Chatzy
Message-ID: <f7togb+8ohn@eGroups.com>

Sorry, I posted the wrong password.  After you create your 
name/identity and pick a color, put in password: hpfguchat

Jen




From hpfgu.elves at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 20:45:18 2007
From: hpfgu.elves at gmail.com (hpfgu_elves)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:45:18 -0000
Subject: NO SPOILERS HERE,  PLEASE   -Link to OTC Spoiler Policy
In-Reply-To: <f7tnvn+r3uv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7tr8u+eoor@eGroups.com>

hogwarts2007 
> That's weird then since the blurb on the group clearly says mark 
> Deathly Hallows posts if they have spoilers.


Looks like in our excitement over new canon, we elvsies forgot to 
update the OTC homepage with a link to our List Closure post:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/172219

Here's specific info for OTC until the list opens on Tuesday:

SPOILER-FREE ZONE

The OT-Chatter list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGU-OTChatter)
has been designated as a spoiler-free zone, for the benefit of
members of our community who will not have immediate access to DH.
Any post to this list containing DH spoilers will be deleted and the
poster will be placed on moderated status! Of course, discussion of
release-night events and parties, and to announce that you've
finished the book and are ready to chat (see below), is welcome on
OTC.

If you have any questions, contact the list elves at HPforGrownups-
owner at yahoogroups.com or contact any one of us. A skeleton crew will
be on hand to assist you.

Ari Elf for the List Elves





From jnferr at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 20:54:25 2007
From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:54:25 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I've finished the book
In-Reply-To: <f7t27q+795c@eGroups.com>
References: <f7t27q+795c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8ee758b40707211354i357e0d61qe565c98ecf6c2204@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/21/07, hogwarts2oo7 <hogwarts2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I got it in the early hours - just before 1.00 am (queued from
> midnight).  I stayed up half the night reading before I just couldn't
> keep my eyes open any longer, and then finished it when I woke up


montims:
I have finished it too, and look forward to reading comments in due course.


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From josepheunice at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 21 22:07:30 2007
From: josepheunice at yahoo.co.uk (eunice joseph)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:07:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
Message-ID: <956891.59584.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hi 
i understand what you mean, i did something stupid now i am kicking myself, i stay up all night doing some work and i went to bed because i still have some work to do so when the postman knock on my door i did not open it. i thought if i read the last book it is finish and i am refusing to read about it online. i will get it on monday and read it. 

oh what am i going to read now  
 
 
EUNICE JOSEPH
STAY BLESSED
ALWAYS SMILING



----- Original Message ----
From: Wolfie! <wuff at internode.on.net>
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 11:35:20 AM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end

lydiaccc wrote:
> I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
> (OK, I read the first page, but that's it). I am too afraid that my
> life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
> another book to look forward to. I'm too afraid that the miracles HP
> has brought into my life - knowing I'm a part of something, fanfic,
> slash, etc. - will go away after everyone reads this book. I know
> rationally that HP fanfic will continue to be written for a long time,
> and the conventions will probably only grow. Probably it's just
> superstition on my part - if I don't read the final book then somehow
> I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom. But here I sit, looking
> at it, not knowing when I'll open it up. Does anyone else relate to this?

Think of it more like a chain reaction, as this spark will set off 
others who will write and turn out brilliant stories.

Plus I tend to think HPs world is a bit like Star Trek, and there could
be spinoffs... JKR hasn't confirmed anything, wisely so.

She may be tempted to write more, better for her to say that she *might*
to prevent her being hassled later.

I personally think she will.

Harry is her Mickey Mouse.

Wolfie!




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From klewellen at shellworld.net  Sat Jul 21 22:59:20 2007
From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: buying adult potter-garb?
In-Reply-To: <956891.59584.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <956891.59584.qm@web27901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707211855540.1659@server2.shellworld.net>

Hi all,
A small likely commonalty know question to take minds off dh...which I have 
not even gotten  for some of the same reasons others list here.
Anyway, is there an on-line source to by adult sized Harry Potter 
character clothing?  Hats cloaks, etc.
I know there must be, but I just found this list.
Thanks,
Karen




From jnferr at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 21:02:43 2007
From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:02:43 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
References: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8ee758b40707211402q727573aco97af5bcb4082050b@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/21/07, lydiaccc <demeter at jimmycat.com> wrote:

> I have the book in front of me, right here, and have not started it
> (OK, I read the first page, but that's it).  I am too afraid that my
> life will change once I read the final book, because I won't have
> another book to look forward to.  I'm too afraid that the miracles HP
> has brought into my life - knowing I'm a part of something, fanfic,
> slash, etc. - will go away after everyone reads this book.  I know
> rationally that HP fanfic will continue to be written for a long time,
> and the conventions will probably only grow.  Probably it's just
> superstition on my part - if I don't read the final book then somehow
> I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom.  But here I sit, looking
> at it, not knowing when I'll open it up.  Does anyone else relate to this?


montims:
I have to say, I got myself all prepared before opening the book - drinks
and nibbles around me, nice and comfy on the sofa - then I read the
dedication, and waited a little bit more...

Now I have finished the book, I feel really weird.  It's as though I have
watched a phenomenal magical show, and then someone came along and explained
how all the tricks were done...  I can't explain it any differently - I'm a
little shell shocked right now - came up for a breather, then I'm going back
in to reread it...


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From demeter at jimmycat.com  Sat Jul 21 23:39:06 2007
From: demeter at jimmycat.com (lydiaccc)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:39:06 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7u5eq+k1jh@eGroups.com>

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I still haven't started the book,
and I've had it for 15 hours now.  I think I will start it soon
though.  I've gotten more used to the idea of actually, finally having
the book.  I've also realized that one person reading the book can't
make or break the fandom (silly of me, I know, but it's surprising how
strong these irrational feelings can be).  And if I don't read it
soon, I'll probably read a spoiler and have everything ruined for me.
 So I might as well go ahead.




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Jul 22 00:20:09 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:20:09 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] buying adult potter-garb?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707211855540.1659@server2.shellworld.net>
Message-ID: <0JLK005QQ0XRB2B0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Karen,

http://www.alivans.com
has wonderful robes and things that can be customed to your size, etc.

There are plenty of sources out there; let Google be your guide.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend. 

| -----Original Message-----
| From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
| [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
| Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 18:59
| To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
| Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] buying adult potter-garb?
| 
| Hi all,
| A small likely commonalty know question to take minds off 
| dh...which I have 
| not even gotten  for some of the same reasons others list here.
| Anyway, is there an on-line source to by adult sized Harry Potter 
| character clothing?  Hats cloaks, etc.
| I know there must be, but I just found this list.
| Thanks,
| Karen
| 
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From wuff at internode.on.net  Sun Jul 22 01:30:18 2007
From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:30:18 +1000
Subject: My time
In-Reply-To: <15409011.1185029253017.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml13.mgt.cox.net>
References: <15409011.1185029253017.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml13.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <46A2B32A.3050202@internode.on.net>

I didn't want to rush my book but it seems people are going to jump me 
with "did you know blah blah blah" if I hang around in SL.
[and in certain forums]

I was very surprised at Glenny who just blurted something out yesterday
and Horse didn't mind re-inforcing the rumour as it was "just a story".

I've invested something like Five years? with Harry Potter and would 
rather I get the information from JKR herself.

So I'm muting all associated yahoo groups till it's finished and may not
be back on secondlife for a week or more, I will also keep internet use
very low.

I never eat up books in one day, I dislike that intensely.
I prefer to read a book in bed at night, a few chapters at a time,
in my own time and at a pace where the words and actions match what is 
being said.

Feel free to putthis e-mail into an SL notecard so that others know
where I am.

Yours.

Wolfie!

-- 
                                    Wolfie!

                          Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife.

                         Kookaburra Pub Owner at Eragon.
                      Chief Lupine Security Officer at ABC

                                    ******

                                ICQ - 3449014

                             Skype - Wolfie_storr

                             * Eats a kid a day *

                                Made in Eragon

                          Wolfie! (c) PWTS 1986 - 2007



From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sun Jul 22 01:49:06 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:49:06 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it...
Message-ID: <d46.ead4699.33d41192@aol.com>

 
montims:

Now I  have finished the book, I feel really weird. It's as though I have
watched  a phenomenal magical show, and then someone came along and explained
how  all the tricks were done... I can't explain it any differently - I'm  a
little shell shocked right now - came up for a breather, then I'm going  back
in to reread it...





Sandy:
I had been trying to explain to my son how I feel after having finished the  
book, but I just couldn't seem to find the words. You have, though. Shell  
shocked is a very accurate description. Post traumatic shock syndrome fits too.  
This was definitely not a book for young or adolescent children. 
 
Sandy, feeling weird too.



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From agenturk at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 22 05:34:20 2007
From: agenturk at hotmail.com (kaskadersha)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:34:20 -0000
Subject: Rescuing DH from Duane Reede...
Message-ID: <f7uq8s+tuqu@eGroups.com>

My copy of DH which was ordered several months ago, should be safely resting in my office, 
as the delivery had to have come earlier this morning.  Although I still visited some opening 
sights I was comfortable with the thought that I can put off reading it at least until Monday.  
By the way, if anyone was at the scholastic event in NY, would know that on the line to take 
your picture with the cover of DH they blasted a part of the book over the loud speakers, and 
I can only imagine how silly I looked, 28 and nearly 6 ft tall, clenching my ears among the 6 
year-olds standing in line....  Back to point, right.  So as I casually strolled into my local 
brooklyn duane reede this evening to buy some headache medicine, I caught a glimpse of a 
disturbing sight.  Just there a few feet away from my grasp, there the books were, in a black 
display box marked 10% off.  What has this world come to when on opening day they just sit 
there, unwanted, for all to see.  Are there no children who read in my neighborhood?  None 
who would give eup all their pokemans for a chance to hold it in their hands?  I don't know 
why but this was too sad to indure.  So I did it, I rescued one from that silly display and could 
barely make it home fast enough to read.  Oh Lord someone stop me.

Marina 




From 2004 at interdrama.com  Sun Jul 22 13:50:00 2007
From: 2004 at interdrama.com (Alan Lance Andersen)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:50:00 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f7vna8+8nkd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:
>
> I am too afraid that my life will change once I read the final book, 
> because I won't have another book to look forward to. 


May not be exactly the same, but these will be coming for a long time:

     http://www.interdrama.com/wiz/


ALA




From jenn at phynn-phamily.us  Sun Jul 22 14:50:13 2007
From: jenn at phynn-phamily.us (Jenn)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:50:13 -0000
Subject: sigh...
Message-ID: <f7vqr5+762h@eGroups.com>

I can't believe it's over and I have to go back to life in the Muggle world, where I can't make 
diapers diappear with a flick of a wand.  I bet wizard kids never get diaper rash.  ah well...
Poppy




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 18:14:43 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:14:43 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7u5eq+k1jh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f806qj+i1bm@eGroups.com>

--- "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded.  I still haven't 
> started the book, and I've had it for 15 hours now.  
> I think I will start it soon though.  I've gotten more
> used to the idea of actually, finally having the book.
> I've also realized that one person reading the book 
> can't make or break the fandom (silly of me, I know, 
> but it's surprising how strong these irrational 
> feelings can be).  And if I don't read it soon, I'll 
> probably read a spoiler and have everything ruined for
> me. So I might as well go ahead.
>

bboyminn:

This is one roller-coaster ride of a book. Thrills, action,
and revelations from beginning to end. It is everything 
you predicted it would be, yet everything is different 
than anyone could have possibly predicted. 

Ultimately, it is a satisfying book. The real questions
that needed to be answer, are answered. Though far more
questions have sprung up from the obsessive imaginations
of fans; yet, once the book is read you realize those
obsessive questions really didn't need to be answered
after all.

An entirely thrilling and very satisfying book. A 
brilliant end to an age. 

For what it is worth.

Steve/bboyminn




From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 19:13:47 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:13:47 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
Message-ID: <f80a9b+m0j4@eGroups.com>

This year I didn't want to pre-order my copy from Amazon, with HBP I 
couldn't wait til the morning so I picked up another copy... I ended up 
with two copies. Anyway, Friday night I was planning on getting the 
book when I started drinking wine, and lots of it, so of course I 
couldn't go and buy the book. I bought it yeasterday morning, but I had 
some urgent errands to run so I couldn't start reading til around 5pm. 
I read all night and finished the book around 2 am. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED 
it!!! I'm a excellent reader so I usually get all the details but I'm 
still going to start my re-read in a few moments. I want to read it 
over and over again. Thank you Jo for an amazing adventure.

PS FOr those of you that couldn't wait like me and got an illegal 
electronic copy, toss it away, it's not the real thing.

Juli




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 19:27:42 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:27:42 -0000
Subject: Don't put off reading it!
Message-ID: <f80b3f+pe0b@eGroups.com>

What an amazing experience. I read from 1 a.m. Saturday morning till 2
a.m. Sunday when my eyes could no longer see the pages, snatched a few
hours of sleep and finished the last two chapters this morning. At one
point I couldn't stand it--I had to sneak a peek at later chapters to
see--well, of course, I can't talk about it yet! What a ride! What an
amazing emotional roller coaster. And we thought she couldn't surprise
us. I think I know which chapter made JKR "howl." I sobbed
inconsolably for an hour and after that could hardly read for swollen
eyes that kept tearing up. Devastation. Euphoria. And time for
laughter. And a last touch in the epilogue that--well, I'll tell you
later.

JK Rowling, I salute you.

Carol, still teary-eyed and with a headache from emotional overload




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 19:53:15 2007
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:53:15 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
In-Reply-To: <f80a9b+m0j4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f80cjb+g0lh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "jlnbtr" <jlnbtr at ...> wrote:
>
> This year I didn't want to pre-order my copy from Amazon, with HBP 
I 
> couldn't wait til the morning so I picked up another copy... I 
ended up 
> with two copies. Anyway, Friday night I was planning on getting 
the 
> book when I started drinking wine, and lots of it, so of course I 
> couldn't go and buy the book. I bought it yeasterday morning, but 
I had 
> some urgent errands to run so I couldn't start reading til around 
5pm. 
> I read all night and finished the book around 2 am. I ABSOLUTELY 
LOVED 
> it!!! I'm a excellent reader so I usually get all the details but 
I'm 
> still going to start my re-read in a few moments. I want to read 
it 
> over and over again. Thank you Jo for an amazing adventure.
> 
> PS FOr those of you that couldn't wait like me and got an illegal 
> electronic copy, toss it away, it's not the real thing.
> 
> Juli
>


Alla:

Me too, me too, me too. What a ride. So happy :) Sooooooo pleased.

I don't know about what spoilers you read though ;) all that I did 
read came true. 

Oh my god. Books are going to the shelf on my bookshelf where my all 
time favorites are :)




From lavaluvn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 20:28:48 2007
From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:28:48 -0000
Subject: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
Message-ID: <f80em0+ese6@eGroups.com>

I really, really wanted to make DH last as long as possible.  Getting 
home long after midnight, I still couldn't resist reading the first 
page, the first chapter... ok about four chapters before going to bed.  
Couldn't sleep too well, got up early and started reading again.  I 
vaguely recall husband and children attempting to distract me.  But 
then, about twenty pages from the end, nature intervened in the form of 
a volcanic eruption.  No really.  A somewhat crazed half hour and short 
helicopter flight later, I'm standing in front of some lovely, if very 
hot and noisy, new lava flows, feeling that the whole thing was rather 
surreal.  Got home completely soaked from heavy rain but happy, and 
then discovered that my eldest child had taken my DH book with her to 
overnight at a friend's house. AAAARGH!!

I did eventually get to finish it, then had to read the whole ending 
again.  Love it. Am anxiously waiting for others to finish so we can 
discuss it!

cheers,
Andromeda




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 21:10:37 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:10:37 -0000
Subject: Spoiler Warning
In-Reply-To: <b6e131bf0707191139v65466cdfjd6de40221975ae4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f80h4d+oh5t@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "P. Alexis Nguyen"
<alexisnguyen at ...> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/07, Lee Truslow <specialcritters at ...> wrote:
> > I'm not the only one that thinks it wasn't all that revealing!!
> >
http://www.amazon.com/NY-Times-Released-Early-Review/forum/Fx2KME5D081OEJH/TxL6R51SQM6WPT/1/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp/104-3558435-1123931?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdItems=25&cdAnchor=0545010225&asin=0545010225
> >
> 
> I'm with you.  It wasn't revealing at all.  While there were things
> that were technically spoilers in the "review," there was nothing that
> could truly spoil the book for you.  There were no answers to the big
> questions - well, there was that note telling us what Deathly Hallows
> refer to, but it didn't explain anything.  In other words, it's much
> akin to HP being a detective/mystery novel and the review giving us
> one or two new clues.  It's nothing major, and I don't understand all
> the big fuss being kicked up about it.
> 
> But then, I don't mind spoilers since I believe that book reading is
> as much a journey, but then, that's likely why I don't understand the
> seemingly-intense anger that some people are feeling.
> 
> ~Ali
>
Carol responds:
Since the title is "Deathly Hallows" and we don't find out what they
are for quite some time, I'd say that it qualifies as a significant
though not a major spoiler. Releasing the review at a time when the
rest of us were waiting with anxiety and trepidation for the book to
appear, it was unethical and irresponsible, especially in a newspaper
known for its integrity, to print a review two days before the book
came out in opposition to the author's own frequently and vehemently
expressed wishes. (As for the store that sold the reviewer the copy!)
At least the Baltimore Sun, which also published a review with a
supposedly legally obtained copy of the book (how was that possible?)
prefaced the article with a spoiler warning. The New York Times didn't
even have the courtesy to do that.

BTW, I didn't see the photos of the epilogue (an even worse violation,
IMO, since it reveals at least some names of characters who survive),
does anyone know whether it was authentic? (I saw the photo of the
first page and someone's hand. That one was definitely the real thing.)

Even the most minor spoiler for a book which most readers want to read
unspoiled, and which the author and her publishers have worked so hard
to protect against leaks, is IMO reprehensible.

Carol, grateful that her pleasure and pain were unspoiled (except for
her own single peek ahead, which was her own choice and no one else's)




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 21:37:20 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:37:20 -0000
Subject: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
In-Reply-To: <EXCHANGE010Kz8uNiLP00004661@compdevsys.com>
Message-ID: <f80img+um60@eGroups.com>

Michelle Tague wrote:
><snip>  
> 
> I'm excited!  I'm ? through HBP and am ready to crack open my book
> tonight/tomorrow
 I've never done a midnight pickup
 I'm going to try
> tonight!

Carol responds:
I picked up my wristband fairly early (10 a.m.--the store opened at 9)
and managed to get in the third group. I decided to go to Borders for
my first- (and last-)ever Potter party. What a letdown! No pumpkin
juice or treacle tarts; a few activities for children (best costume
contest, etc.--I wasn't wearing one). I couldn't even concentrate on
"The Great Snape Debate"--I picked up a copy but there was nowhere to
sit down and read it. (Ever tried sitting on a carpeted floor and
leaning against a bookshelf when you have virtually no body fat to
cushion you?) It wasn't fun, so I spent the time wandering around,
speaking to a few adults wearing "Snape Is Loyal" stickers, but no one
had anything intelligent to say (Confunded by that diabolical JKR,
every one of them). I finally walked to the back of the store to get
in line, almost the last person in my group. The line moved fairly
quickly and I managed to pass the time in small talk about how
exciting this one-of-a-kind experience was (*not* the Potter party but
anticipating the revelations), picked up my book after exchanging a
word or two with the cashier about his "wrong" choice of Snape
stickers ("He'd better have a good reason; that's all I can say,"
retorted the cashier.) I drove off with his words in my mind,
postponed opening the book until I had unrolled my poster and put
heavy books on it to flatten it, and grabbed a sandwich (I was
starving, having anticipated refreshments for which you didn't have to
wait in line or, erm, pay). And then the real fun (or was it torture?)
began.

Carol, glad that she had that "purple C) wristband but wishing that
she'd waited another hour (making and eating a late dinner!) before
heading off to Borders




From celizwh at intergate.com  Sun Jul 22 21:52:28 2007
From: celizwh at intergate.com (houyhnhnm102)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:52:28 -0000
Subject: Don't put off reading it!
In-Reply-To: <f80b3f+pe0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f80jis+bevn@eGroups.com>

Carol:

> JK Rowling, I salute you.

houyhnhnm:

Since this isn't the main list, I guess I can get 
away with a "me, too".  I don't care if some of my 
predictions were wrong.  I am so, so satisfied with 
the way the story turned out.  It was perfect! 




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 22:04:54 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:04:54 -0000
Subject: sigh...
In-Reply-To: <f7vqr5+762h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f80ka6+kvnc@eGroups.com>

Jenn wrote:
>
> I can't believe it's over and I have to go back to life in the
Muggle world, where I can't make diapers diappear with a flick of a
wand.  I bet wizard kids never get diaper rash.  ah well...


Carol:
No, but they can get dragon pox! Besides, you can always reimmerse
yourself in the books and reenter the WW any time you want to. I'm
looking forward to a leisurely rereading of DH to see what I missed
(there were parts where neither my mind nor my eyes would focus) the
first time around.

Carol, sure that we'll have many fascinating discussions on HPfGu and
glad that the unbearable anxiety is behind her




From gav_fiji at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 22:04:20 2007
From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:04:20 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
In-Reply-To: <f80a9b+m0j4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f80k94+5l16@eGroups.com>

> Juli:
> PS For those of you that couldn't wait like me and got an illegal 
> electronic copy, toss it away, it's not the real thing.

Goddlefrood:
There was one illegal electronic copy that matched the hard copy I 
have word for word. Not much beats the feeling of a book in your 
hand though, that I would concede.

I withhold comment on my feelings of the book as main opens soon 
enough for that.





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 22:12:09 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:12:09 -0000
Subject: You Though YOU Read Fast!
Message-ID: <f80knp+vldg@eGroups.com>

Couldn't resist reporting this tidbit of information from
People-UK

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=oh-potter-night&method=full&objectid=19493309&siteid=93463-name_page.html

Anne Jones, 55, set a record by reading the new novel in
47 minutes at a store in Charing Cross, London.

"It's a real page-turner, great fun," she declared.



FORTY SEVEN MINUTES!!!!

That's unbelievable.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 22:16:37 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:16:37 -0000
Subject: It's safe to read my earlier post
In-Reply-To: <f80h4d+oh5t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f80l05+v6lp@eGroups.com>

The list seems to have automatically hidden the blurb from my post to
the "Spoiler Warning" thread. Just to let you know, it's a reaction
the the NY Times's and Baltimore Sun's premature review.

The original post follows for the benefit of anyone who skipped it but
now wants to read it. (If you've already read it, thanks for trusting
me and ignore this post.)

Carol earlier:
> Since the title is "Deathly Hallows" and we don't find out what they
are for quite some time, I'd say that it qualifies as a significant
though not a major spoiler. Releasing the review at a time when the
rest of us were waiting with anxiety and trepidation for the book to
appear, it was unethical and irresponsible, especially in a newspaper
known for its integrity, to print a review two days before the book
came out in opposition to the author's own frequently and vehemently
expressed wishes. (As for the store that sold the reviewer the copy!)
At least the Baltimore Sun, which also published a review with a
supposedly legally obtained copy of the book (how was that possible?)
prefaced the article with a spoiler warning. The New York Times didn't
even have the courtesy to do that.
> 
> BTW, I didn't see the photos of the epilogue (an even worse
violation, IMO, since it reveals at least some names of characters who
survive), does anyone know whether it was authentic? (I saw the photo
of the first page and someone's hand. That one was definitely the real
thing.)
> 
> Even the most minor spoiler for a book which most readers want to
read unspoiled, and which the author and her publishers have worked so
hard to protect against leaks, is IMO reprehensible.
> 
> Carol, grateful that her pleasure and pain were unspoiled (except
for her own single peek ahead, which was her own choice and no one else's)
>
Carol, who would never, never spoil anyone's pleasure in reading a
book or watching a film for the first time




From juli17 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 03:39:19 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (julie)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:39:19 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
In-Reply-To: <f80a9b+m0j4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f817t7+ernn@eGroups.com>

I got my book at Barnes and Noble at midnight. I was astonished
by how many people were there, well over a thousand. (I live in
Orange County, California, which does not have a small population
but also has quite a few bookstores.) We spent the final hour
standing outside along the sidewalks and in the parking lot area
(which was taped off in front of B&N). It was rather amazing to
see so many kids, teenagers, and adults with scars drawn on 
their foreheads, wearing robes, ties, Harry Potter glasses, etc.

As for the book, it was definitely a roller-coaster ride. I
agree with Steve and Carol that it was everything it should
be. There will always be a few questions, a few loose ends,
and I'm sure we all had our hopes for this character or that
character that didn't materialize quite as we might have wished.
But all in all it was an amazing finish.

BTW, I agree with those who felt a bit shell-shocked after 
reading it. That is how I felt after I finished the book this
afternoon. It makes me feel a bit silly, being so emotionally
involved in the lives of fictional characters (and again the
book really IS very emotional and the intensity really builds
during the final few chapters). But it was a great ride all
the way.

Julie 




From drdara at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 03:45:25 2007
From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] DH Spoiler
Message-ID: <348362.69963.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>

Danielle here:

Mortims, I believe and I am looking to back it up, that JKR said that late in like magic quote before HBP came out, and I also believe she confirmed who in a later interview that it was Merope.

montims:

PS but who the dickens performed magic for the first time, late in life? I
was looking out for that one and am bemused.....

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From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 03:55:19 2007
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] DH Spoilers, spoiler space, etc.
In-Reply-To: <348362.69963.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <979333.16732.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


What happened to OT-Chatter being DH spoiler free?

And, if spoilers must be posted, what happened to using spoiler space before getting to the meat of the post?

I've finished DH, and am halfway through my re-read, but I'd be surprised if that were the case with everyone on this list.

I'm a little surprised at the lack of consideration for those who may not have finished the book, by those who not only are posting plot themes, but aren't bothering to use spoiler space, either.

Did I miss something?


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From drdara at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 04:03:02 2007
From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Final Adventure
Message-ID: <405918.39551.qm@web60725.mail.yahoo.com>

Julie I was shell shocked in a way only becuase I felt a sadness at this being the last book. I can only hope that maybe lightening will strike again and give JKR some more inspiration and give us a story about rebuilding the wizarding world. Starting from the time the war ended and leading up to the epilogue she wrote. I know it probably will never happen, but I can only hope.


julie said:

I got my book at Barnes and Noble at midnight. I was astonished
by how many people were there, well over a thousand. (I live in
Orange County, California, which does not have a small population
but also has quite a few bookstores.) We spent the final hour
standing outside along the sidewalks and in the parking lot area
(which was taped off in front of B&N). It was rather amazing to
see so many kids, teenagers, and adults with scars drawn on 
their foreheads, wearing robes, ties, Harry Potter glasses, etc.

As for the book, it was definitely a roller-coaster ride. I
agree with Steve and Carol that it was everything it should
be. There will always be a few questions, a few loose ends,
and I'm sure we all had our hopes for this character or that
character that didn't materialize quite as we might have wished.
But all in all it was an amazing finish.

BTW, I agree with those who felt a bit shell-shocked after 
reading it. That is how I felt after I finished the book this
afternoon. It makes me feel a bit silly, being so emotionally
involved in the lives of fictional characters (and again the
book really IS very emotional and the intensity really builds
during the final few chapters). But it was a great ride all
the way.

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From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 04:14:45 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:14:45 -0000
Subject: DH Spoilers, spoiler space, etc.
In-Reply-To: <979333.16732.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f819vl+enak@eGroups.com>

MJ:
> What happened to OT-Chatter being DH spoiler free?
> 
> And, if spoilers must be posted, what happened to using spoiler
space before getting to the meat of the post?
> 
> I've finished DH, and am halfway through my re-read, but I'd be
surprised if that were the case with everyone on this list.
> 
> I'm a little surprised at the lack of consideration for those who
may not have finished the book, by those who not only are posting plot
themes, but aren't bothering to use spoiler space, either.
> 
> Did I miss something?

Hi All,

No you have not missed anything.  OTC is a spoiler-free list and the
List Elves are working as hard as we can to ensure it remains that
way.  We are deleting posts with spoilers, but we cannot,
unfortunately, prevent these messages from being delivered to those
receiving email.  


So, everyone, PLEASE remember to post *no* Deathly Hallows Spoilers here!

If you are bursting to talk please do so in Chat or at another HP
site.  Some folks have already posted a few suggestions for places to
discuss DH while Main is still down.  There is a list of links to
other HP sites in the Links section at Main: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/links.

If anyone would like to offer up suggestions for sites or groups for
fellow list members, please do so. 

KathyK/Zaney Elf






From juli17 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 04:21:50 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (julie)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:21:50 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
In-Reply-To: <405918.39551.qm@web60725.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f81acu+gfnp@eGroups.com>

danielle dassero <drdara at ...> wrote:
>
> Julie I was shell shocked in a way only becuase I felt a sadness at 
this being the last book. I can only hope that maybe lightening will 
strike again and give JKR some more inspiration and give us a story 
about rebuilding the wizarding world. Starting from the time the war 
ended and leading up to the epilogue she wrote. I know it probably will 
never happen, but I can only hope.

Julie again:
Yes, that was part of my reason for feeling shell-shocked too.
Sorry I wasn't very clear. It seems a bit silly to feel bereft
that I won't be reading about these characters any more. But as
you say (and I think even JKR said), "never say never." She 
may well revisit her world some day, and if she doesn't, well 
she is one author who accepts the existence of fanfic (really,
bless her for that).

Julie, who eschewed HP fanfic for awhile but got into it 
recently and found some of it quite good.




From HMaffioli at san.rr.com  Mon Jul 23 04:55:35 2007
From: HMaffioli at san.rr.com (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:55:35 -0700
Subject: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
Message-ID: <C2C982D7.6D40%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>

Has any one seen Cashback?  I was looking over Yahoo and noticed a familiar
face...

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thisweekend.html;_ylt=AqMABEXz5h8hSL0cEN_ce7
VfVXcA


Heather 




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 04:59:13 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:59:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Spoiler Warning
Message-ID: <ceb.15b2cf50.33d58fa1@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/22/2007 5:11:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:

BTW, I  didn't see the photos of the epilogue (an even worse violation,
IMO, since  it reveals at least some names of characters who survive),
does anyone know  whether it was authentic? (I saw the photo of the
first page and someone's  hand. That one was definitely the real thing.)



Sandy:
 
Yes, it was authentic. I did a search for it and read  it of my own free will 
two days before the book was released. I don't mind being  spoiled and had 
intended to read the last chapter first anyway. I just got a  jump start on it. 
When I read it I wasn't sure if it was real though. Had to  wait to get my 
book to find out. It was.
 
Carol, I am very much looking forward to hearing  everything you have to say 
about the book when the main list reopens on Tuesday.  I thought about you at 
a certain point in the book. Can't wait to hear your take  on it.
 
Sandy, who also read herself  blind.
 
P.S.  I did refrain from reading the NY Times  review. I totally agree with 
the ethics of it, and I didn't want to be too  spoiled. 



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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 06:01:31 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:01:31 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ok, so when are you going to line up at the store????
Message-ID: <bd7.1634886b.33d59e3b@aol.com>

 
Carol:

I picked up  my wristband fairly early (10 a.m.--the store opened at 9)
and managed to  get in the third group. I decided to go to Borders for
my first- (and  last-)ever Potter party. What a letdown! No pumpkin
juice or treacle tarts;  a few activities for children (best costume
contest, etc.--I wasn't wearing  one). I couldn't even concentrate on
"The Great Snape Debate"--I picked up  a copy but there was nowhere to
sit down and read it. (Ever tried sitting  on a carpeted floor and
leaning against a bookshelf when you have virtually  no body fat to
cushion you?) It wasn't fun, so I spent the time wandering  around,
speaking to a few adults wearing "Snape Is Loyal" stickers, but no  one
had anything intelligent to say (Confunded by that diabolical  JKR,
every one of them). I finally walked to the back of the store to  get
in line, almost the last person in my group. The line moved  fairly
quickly and I managed to pass the time in small talk about  how
exciting this one-of-a-kind experience was (*not* the Potter party  but
anticipating the revelations)anticipating the revelations)<WBR>, picked
word or two with the cashier about his "wrong" choice of  Snape
stickers ("He'd better have a good reason; that's all I can  say,"
retorted the cashier.) I drove off with his words in my  mind,
postponed opening the book until I had unrolled my poster and  put
heavy books on it to flatten it, and grabbed a sandwich (I  was
starving, having anticipated refreshments for which you didn't have  to
wait in line or, erm, pay). And then the real fun (or was it  torture?)
began.





Sandy:
 
I can so commiserate. This was actually my second  release party, but first 
at Borders/Waldens. Got there at 9 p.m. for the  carnival they were supposed to 
be having on the parking lot, but they didn't  even get it set up until well 
past 10, and it was so stupid. I was in costume,  but the only adult who was. 
I have plenty of body fat to cushion me, but I  couldn't sit on the floor 
because of my bad knee and back from my accident a few  years ago - can't get down 
or up. I went there anticipating having a lot of fun,  but there was none to 
be had. The only free refreshment was snow cones in one of  two flavors; 
purple or grape. Oh well, I love snow cones and love grape (but  cherry or 
raspberry would have been better). I was fortunate enough to have gone  with a friend, 
and then several people I work with showed up there, so I had  people to talk 
to. But I can still relate because I went to the HBP release  alone and had 
to totally give up trying to find someone to have an intelligent  conversation 
with. I was number 22 in the first group, so got my book quickly  and was home 
by 12:30. I went through the bag of freebies, but haven't unrolled  the 
poster yet. Like you, I ate a sandwich, and then settled in for the  long read, 
having requested Saturday off. It was very disappointing, and  there will never 
again be the opportunity to do it better (I so wanted to  go to Scholastic in 
NY, but no money).
 
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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Jul 23 07:31:24 2007
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:31:24 -0000
Subject: buying adult potter-garb?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.0707211855540.1659@server2.shellworld.net>
Message-ID: <f81lgc+v0d0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Karen Lewellen <klewellen at ...>
wrote:

> Anyway, is there an on-line source to by adult sized Harry Potter 
> character clothing?  Hats cloaks, etc.

www.orderofmerlin.com

www.hpwizardstore.com




From predigirl1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 08:18:26 2007
From: predigirl1 at yahoo.com (Alex Hogan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:18:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: sigh...
In-Reply-To: <f80ka6+kvnc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <826994.5661.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I just finished The Book, hugged it to my chest and cried like a baby for about five minutes.  I can't believe it's over. But it's never really over...we can always read them again and again, which I plan on doing. Rowling is a Goddess. Thank you for some of the best times of our lives, J.K.!
   
  Alex Hogan 

justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
          Jenn wrote:
>
> I can't believe it's over and I have to go back to life in the
Muggle world, where I can't make diapers diappear with a flick of a
wand. I bet wizard kids never get diaper rash. ah well...

Carol:
No, but they can get dragon pox! Besides, you can always reimmerse
yourself in the books and reenter the WW any time you want to. I'm
looking forward to a leisurely rereading of DH to see what I missed
(there were parts where neither my mind nor my eyes would focus) the
first time around.

Carol, sure that we'll have many fascinating discussions on HPfGu and
glad that the unbearable anxiety is behind her



         

       
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From catlady1949 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 23 05:53:45 2007
From: catlady1949 at comcast.net (Phyllis Stevens)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:53:45 -0400
Subject: Don't put off reading it!
References: <f80b3f+pe0b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <02f701c7cced$d5b40a10$c0fe3e44@user53796g88h2>

I was able to get the book on Saturday morning, and after not 
sleeping Friday or Saturday, finished Sunday about 4 A.m. EST!

I can't believe how emotional it all was for me and I cried too! 
Several times towards the end! Heck I even cried, at one point, 
near the beginning! I was again blown away by the excellent 
writing!


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From predigirl1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 08:21:54 2007
From: predigirl1 at yahoo.com (Alex Hogan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Don't put off reading it!
In-Reply-To: <f80jis+bevn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <255551.6567.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I was waffling between reading it fast or slow, decided fast was better. I didn't want to find anything out from other sources. Besides, my husband would kill me if I didn't hurry up! Now I'm glad I got it over with!
   
  Alex Hogan

houyhnhnm102 <celizwh at intergate.com> wrote:
          Carol:

> JK Rowling, I salute you.

houyhnhnm:

Since this isn't the main list, I guess I can get 
away with a "me, too". I don't care if some of my 
predictions were wrong. I am so, so satisfied with 
the way the story turned out. It was perfect! 



         

       
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From predigirl1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 08:33:47 2007
From: predigirl1 at yahoo.com (Alex Hogan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7vna8+8nkd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20070723083348.57871.qmail@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have been living with a panic attack since I had the book in my hand. I really didn't know how to live without HP. I feel better now that I have read it. I seriously thought I was going to freak... BADLY... and didn't want to read it, but the option of hearing about what happened from other sources was worse. HP has been such a part of my life (I even have a tattoo) that I was really scared. But I'm OK with it. J.K. did well. Bless her heart.
   
  Alex Hogan
   
   

Alan Lance Andersen <2004 at interdrama.com> wrote:
          --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:
>
> I am too afraid that my life will change once I read the final book, 
> because I won't have another book to look forward to. 

May not be exactly the same, but these will be coming for a long time:

http://www.interdrama.com/wiz/

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From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 09:37:56 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37:56 -0000
Subject: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <f80em0+ese6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f81stk+p3pk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Andromeda" <lavaluvn at ...> 
wrote:
> I did eventually get to finish it, then had to read the whole ending 
> again.  Love it. Am anxiously waiting for others to finish so we can 
> discuss it!

Tonks:

You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!  J.K. Rowling is 
brutal!!  Thank God she wrote the Epilogue, it helped to take the edge 
off. I think I hate her.

Tonks_op




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 09:47:21 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:47:21 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <20070723083348.57871.qmail@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f81tf9+nrrv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Alex Hogan <predigirl1 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> I have been living with a panic attack since I had the book in my 
hand. I really didn't know how to live without HP. I feel better now 
that I have read it. I seriously thought I was going to freak... 
BADLY... and didn't want to read it, but the option of hearing about 
what happened from other sources was worse. HP has been such a part 
of my life 

Tonks:

I felt that way too. About chapter 2, I thought.. "do I really want 
to read all the rest of this?". The book seemed so heavy and I just 
felt like I could not go on. This one is not my favorite book. I 
still like book 6 best. And I like the first movie, because is it a 
more innocent, fun time. This book was very hard on me. But I am 
glad that I finished it. 

Tonks_op




From dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 23 11:09:04 2007
From: dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk (Tim Regan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:09:04 +0100
Subject: Photos from the release?
Message-ID: <018101c7cd19$e30376c0$a90a6440$@co.uk>

Hi All,

Has anyone else posted pictures from any release parties? I decided to dress
up as Cornelius Fudge, the hardest part of which was finding a lime-green
bowler hat (thanks Catherine for correcting me - I nearly brought an Orange
one), and the most fun bit was spray painting some boots metallic purple!
Anyway, here are the photos ...

http://www.flickr.com/gp/27141279 at N00/KC2q22 

Cheers,

Dumbledad.


		
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From dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 23 10:58:15 2007
From: dumbledad at yahoo.co.uk (Tim Regan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:58:15 +0100
Subject: Help finding an old JKR quote
Message-ID: <017701c7cd18$5f8688b0$1e939a10$@co.uk>

Hi All,

Obviously finding an old quote isn't a spoiler, though I'm a bit worried
that the fact I'm looking for it might, in and of itself, be problematic.
Just to be safe, here's some spoiler space, complete with a spoiler space
poem taken from "The Best Man That Ever Was" by Annie Freud (that I bought
while in the HP7 queue on Friday night).

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I remember a JKR interview from way way back where she says something like
"anyone who has read the bible will know what happens in the end". I'm not
sure if she uses the word "bible" or says "understands Christianity". But I
am having no luck at all finding the original quote. Here are my two
attempts on Quick Quotes:
- search for "bible" http://tinyurl.com/3ado44 (10 results, none what I'm
looking for); and
- search for "christian" http://tinyurl.com/2n67c8 (23 results, none what
I'm looking for).

This quote has been used in discussions on the main list before, e.g.
- Jim Ferer on Thu May 6, 2004:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/97800 
- Pip!Squeak on Sat Nov 9, 2002:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/46387 
- Ravenclaw Ba on Fri Aug 2, 2002:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/42001 

But since it isn't on Quick Quotes I am beginning to wonder whether JKR
really said it or whether it is a fandom legend.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.


		
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From kkersey at swbell.net  Mon Jul 23 12:32:27 2007
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:32:27 -0000
Subject: Help finding an old JKR quote
In-Reply-To: <017701c7cd18$5f8688b0$1e939a10$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <f8274r+2a4e@eGroups.com>

I think this is it:

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-vancouversun-wyman.htm


Elisabet




From HMaffioli at san.rr.com  Mon Jul 23 14:26:59 2007
From: HMaffioli at san.rr.com (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:26:59 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: buying adult potter-garb?
In-Reply-To: <f81lgc+v0d0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <C2CA08C3.6D55%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>



> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Karen Lewellen
> wrote:
> 
>> > Anyway, is there an on-line source to by adult sized Harry Potter
>> > character clothing?  Hats cloaks, etc.

Alivans has nice custom made robes and house garb along with amazing wands
and brooms

Www.alivans.com

Heather




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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Mon Jul 23 15:22:18 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:22:18 -0400
Subject: AT WORK.... Totally want to be home READING!
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01bKRhO6gCl00000c71@compdevsys.com>

I?m on page 277?. And I tell ya? finding it hard to stay focused at work!

 

You know you?re addicted to HP when ?.

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

 


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From anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 15:37:37 2007
From: anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com (Katie)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:37:37 -0000
Subject: Photos from the release?
In-Reply-To: <018101c7cd19$e30376c0$a90a6440$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <f82i01+5u7i@eGroups.com>


Here are my pix from the local Barnes and Noble party - we had a 
blast.I especially like the one of me actually receiving my book! Hope 
the link works!

http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=165691972/a=39713060_397
13060/t_=39713060

Katie




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Mon Jul 23 15:42:35 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:42:35 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <0JLN00AJD1E4X1K0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I don't usually reply to my own posts, but I do agree with and respect the
elves no-spoiler policy.  I apologize for  the spoiler post, but I admit to
being glad I remembered to put in the SPOILER space. :-)

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From muellem at bc.edu  Mon Jul 23 16:06:57 2007
From: muellem at bc.edu (colebiancardi)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:06:57 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f81tf9+nrrv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f82jn1+1625@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Alex Hogan <predigirl1@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have been living with a panic attack since I had the book in my 
> hand. I really didn't know how to live without HP. I feel better now 
> that I have read it. I seriously thought I was going to freak... 
> BADLY... and didn't want to read it, but the option of hearing about 
> what happened from other sources was worse. HP has been such a part 
> of my life 
> 
> Tonks:
> 
> I felt that way too. About chapter 2, I thought.. "do I really want 
> to read all the rest of this?". The book seemed so heavy and I just 
> felt like I could not go on. This one is not my favorite book. I 
> still like book 6 best. And I like the first movie, because is it a 
> more innocent, fun time. This book was very hard on me. But I am 
> glad that I finished it. 
> 
> Tonks_op
>


tonks, you are not alone.  I feel the same way as you do.  This book
is not my favorite at all.

colebiancardi




From taguem at jmsearch.com  Mon Jul 23 16:22:06 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:22:06 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Photos from the release?
In-Reply-To: <f82i01+5u7i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01Bc0lApHbZ00000d23@compdevsys.com>

FUN! Thanks for sharing!!!!

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

   _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:38 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Photos from the release?

 


Here are my pix from the local Barnes and Noble party - we had a 
blast.I especially like the one of me actually receiving my book! Hope 
the link works!

HYPERLINK
"http://www1.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=165691972/a=39713060_397"ht
tp://www1.-snapfish.-com/thumbnailsha-re/AlbumID=-165691972/-a=39713060_-397
13060/t_=39713060

Katie

 


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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 16:23:19 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:23:19 -0000
Subject: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <C2C982D7.6D40%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <f82kln+gh02@eGroups.com>

---  Heather Maffioli <HMaffioli at ...> wrote:
>
> Has any one seen Cashback?  I was looking over Yahoo 
> and noticed a familiar face...
> 
>
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thisweekend.html;_ylt=AqMABEXz5h8hSL0cEN_ce7VfVXcA
> 
> 
> Heather
>

bboyminn:

Sorry, could you be a little more specific; it would help.

Steve




From taguem at jmsearch.com  Mon Jul 23 16:36:11 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:36:11 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <f82kln+gh02@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01pjFlj0HZF00000d42@compdevsys.com>

Oliver Wood ;-)

 

 

Michelle Tague

   _____  

From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:23 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Sean Biggerstaff movie?

 

--- Heather Maffioli <HMaffioli at .-..> wrote:
>
> Has any one seen Cashback? I was looking over Yahoo 
> and noticed a familiar face...
> 
>
HYPERLINK
"http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thisweekend.html;_ylt=AqMABEXz5h8hSL0cEN_ce
7VfVXcA"http://movies.-yahoo.com/-feature/thisweek-end.html;-_ylt=AqMABEXz5h
8-hSL0cEN_ce7VfVXc-A
> 
> 
> Heather
>

bboyminn:

Sorry, could you be a little more specific; it would help.

Steve

 


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From HMaffioli at san.rr.com  Mon Jul 23 16:45:36 2007
From: HMaffioli at san.rr.com (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:45:36 -0700
Subject: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <f82kln+gh02@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <C2CA2940.6D63%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>


> ---  Heather Maffioli <HMaffioli at ...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Has any one seen Cashback?  I was looking over Yahoo
>> > and noticed a familiar face...
>> > 
>> >
> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thisweekend.html;_ylt=AqMABEXz5h8hSL0cEN_ce7Vf
> VXcA
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Heather
>> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Sorry, could you be a little more specific; it would help.
> 
> Steve
> 
It appears that Sean Biggerstaff (AKA Wood ) has a new film out called
Cashback.  I was wondering if anyone had seen it.

Heather


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From lmkos at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 23 15:58:44 2007
From: lmkos at earthlink.net (Lenore)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:58:44 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0JLN00AJD1E4X1K0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
 <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <E1ID0JA-00040u-KH@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Lee:
>I don't usually reply to my own posts, but I do agree with and respect the
>elves no-spoiler policy.  I apologize for  the spoiler post, but I admit to
>being glad I remembered to put in the SPOILER space. :-)
>
>Cheers,
>Lee :-)
>Walk beside me, and be my friend.

Lenore:
I appreciated the spoiler space which allowed me to totally take
personal responsibility for reading it or not.  (I did read it and I look
forward to the discussion tomorrow (2pm, for my time turner zone).
I love your sig lines, especially the one above.

Lenore





From vsteck at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 16:23:41 2007
From: vsteck at gmail.com (vanessa_steck)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:23:41 -0000
Subject: in the chat room--12:30 Monday
Message-ID: <f82kmd+k4s6@eGroups.com>

I am in the chat room at 12:30 Monday afternoon--eager to discuss DH!





From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 17:27:25 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:27:25 -0000
Subject: The Final Adventure
In-Reply-To: <f80k94+5l16@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f82odt+v0ao@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Goddlefrood" <gav_fiji at ...> 
wrote:
>
> > Juli:
> > PS For those of you that couldn't wait like me and got an illegal 
> > electronic copy, toss it away, it's not the real thing.
> 
> Goddlefrood:
> There was one illegal electronic copy that matched the hard copy I 
> have word for word. Not much beats the feeling of a book in your 
> hand though, that I would concede.
> 
> I withhold comment on my feelings of the book as main opens soon 
> enough for that.

Juli: I had TWO illegal copies, both of them fakes. One of them was 
only 2 pages that repeated themselves 300 times, the ontehr one, was a 
full 600+ novel. I read the whole thing, from the beginning it didn't 
seem like Jo's writting, not even close but it was entertaining. Thta 
ought to teach me. I liked the real thing A LOOOOOT more that's for 
sure.

Juli





From sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 17:33:59 2007
From: sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com (Dondee Gorski)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:33:59 -0000
Subject: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <C2CA2940.6D63%hmaffioli@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <f82oq7+7fs5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Heather Maffioli 
<HMaffioli at ...> wrote:
>
<snip>
> It appears that Sean Biggerstaff (AKA Wood ) has a new film out 
called
> Cashback.  I was wondering if anyone had seen it.
> 
> Heather
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


Dondee:

Cashback was an, IMO excellent, short that came out in '03 or '04. 
It did so well in the short movie circles that there was talk of 
expanding the story and coming out with a regular length movie. I 
just looked on imdb and it appears that they did make it into a 
longer piece.

Here is the link to the new '06 version:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0460740/

As for the earlier version:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0409799/

There is a lot of female nudity but it is done in a very artistic 
and beautiful way. The main character Ben, played by Biggerstaff, is 
an artist and a dreamer, and we get to see the world through his 
eyes. This is a movie to make people think - not to stare at the 
*boobies* although I'm sure lots have watched it just for 
that ::sighs disapointedly::

I hope the extended version is as good as the origional - I will 
have to find it to see. I downloaded the short Cashback from the 
Apple itunes store where they have a wonderful collection of shorts.

Cheers, Dondee




From aslitumerkan at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 17:51:13 2007
From: aslitumerkan at gmail.com (aslitumerkan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:51:13 -0000
Subject: in the chat room--12:30 Monday
In-Reply-To: <f82kmd+k4s6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f82pqh+feuk@eGroups.com>

where is the chat room?




From sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 17:57:47 2007
From: sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com (Dondee Gorski)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:57:47 -0000
Subject: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <f82oq7+7fs5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f82q6r+m2c1@eGroups.com>

Dondee again:

I forgot to mention in my previous post another movie (full length) 
that Sean was excellent in - The Winter Guest. Sean is a cute little 
potty-mouthed 12 yr old who holds his own co-starring with Emma 
Thompson, Phylladia Law (Thompson's real mum) and directed by Alan 
Rickman. In fact, I think he got the nod - or at least the oppoturnity 
to audition for the Potter films - because of the work he did with 
Rickman.

Cheers, Dondee




From aslitumerkan at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 17:59:53 2007
From: aslitumerkan at gmail.com (aslitumerkan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:59:53 -0000
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
In-Reply-To: <c37.15fcb0e1.33bd7058@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f82qap+ucjb@eGroups.com>

I really rushed through it, while I was saying to myself stop reading 
now, it will end, you have to savor it, but I couldn't elp myself and 
finished reading it in 2 days. I admire you for not doing the same 
mistake- and a little jealous that you still have pages to read :) 




From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 18:02:41 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:41 -0000
Subject: in the chat room--12:30 Monday
In-Reply-To: <f82pqh+feuk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f82qg1+s840@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "aslitumerkan"
<aslitumerkan at ...> wrote:
>
> where is the chat room?
>


Kathy:

It's here:

http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

use the password hpfguchat to enter.




From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 18:01:24 2007
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:01:24 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: in the chat room--12:30 Monday
In-Reply-To: <f82pqh+feuk@eGroups.com>
References: <f82kmd+k4s6@eGroups.com> <f82pqh+feuk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0707231101t15214d81sbcdfb824bc4881a3@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/23/07, aslitumerkan <aslitumerkan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> where is the chat room?
>

Taken from one of the weekly emails:

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574
Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called.
Enter the password: hpfguchat

~Ali



From tfaucette6387 at charter.net  Mon Jul 23 18:25:03 2007
From: tfaucette6387 at charter.net (anne_t_squires)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:25:03 -0000
Subject: Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <E1ID0JA-00040u-KH@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <f82rpv+ccq0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Lenore <lmkos at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Lee:
> >I don't usually reply to my own posts, but I do agree with and
respect the
> >elves no-spoiler policy.  I apologize for  the spoiler post, but I
admit to
> >being glad I remembered to put in the SPOILER space. :-)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Lee :-)
> >Walk beside me, and be my friend.
> 
> Lenore:
> I appreciated the spoiler space which allowed me to totally take
> personal responsibility for reading it or not.  (I did read it and I
look
> forward to the discussion tomorrow (2pm, for my time turner zone).
> I love your sig lines, especially the one above.
> 
> Lenore
>
Anne Squires:

I don't consider this a spoiler because I'm going to quote from OotP
(US hardback edition page 30)



"My dad's Muggle-born and he's a right old slob." That's Tonks words,
speaking of her dad.

Anne Squires




From emmayrosa at yahoo.com.mx  Mon Jul 23 18:25:03 2007
From: emmayrosa at yahoo.com.mx (emmaiveth)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:25:03 -0000
Subject: DH in other languages
Message-ID: <f82rpv+dv6o@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone, I bet a lot of you are still reading. And although the
publishers tried to keep leaks of spoilers as well as some fan sites
from spoiling it for fans. I must comment that although I am fluent in
english and it?s possible to buy the english /american version(and I do
read it in english). It is always very much spoiled for everyone who
reads it in another language: here in mexico they at least take 6
months sometimes more in translating( sometimes with awful mistakes) and
printing so for a lot of my friends it?s spoiled by the time they get
it, because it?s been on the web talked about by readers for so long.

We are so lucky to be ale to read it without too many spoilers if that
is our wish.

Happy reading, rereading ;)
Emma




From maritajan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 19:09:15 2007
From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:09:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Sean Biggerstaff movie?
In-Reply-To: <f82q6r+m2c1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <300453.48372.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I saw that movie a few months ago....absolutely fantastic movie!!!  Emma Thompson is wonderful in anything she does, but the whole movie was fabulous.  Including some breathtaking scenery.
   
   
  MJ

Dondee Gorski <sweetophelia4u at yahoo.com> wrote:
          Dondee again:

I forgot to mention in my previous post another movie (full length) 
that Sean was excellent in - The Winter Guest. Sean is a cute little 
potty-mouthed 12 yr old who holds his own co-starring with Emma 
Thompson, Phylladia Law (Thompson's real mum) and directed by Alan 
Rickman. In fact, I think he got the nod - or at least the oppoturnity 
to audition for the Potter films - because of the work he did with 
Rickman.

Cheers, Dondee



         


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From lmkos at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 23 15:47:22 2007
From: lmkos at earthlink.net (Lenore)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:47:22 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows
  Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <f81stk+p3pk@eGroups.com>
References: <f80em0+ese6@eGroups.com>
 <f81stk+p3pk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <E1ID08A-00044A-SD@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


At 09:37 AM 7/23/07 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Andromeda" <lavaluvn at ...>
>wrote:
> > I did eventually get to finish it, then had to read the whole ending
> > again.  Love it. Am anxiously waiting for others to finish so we can
> > discuss it!
>
>Tonks:
>You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!  J.K. Rowling is
>brutal!!  Thank God she wrote the Epilogue, it helped to take the edge
>off. I think I hate her.
>Tonks_op

Lenore:
I tend to agree with you that JKR seems unnecessarily "brutal" in many
aspects.  (Obviously, discussion of specifics must wait.)  And I definitely
do not think the book is suitable for children, (g), unless they are 
at least 30!

Lenore






From kittyhorn at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 18:54:36 2007
From: kittyhorn at aol.com (kittyhorn at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:54:36 EDT
Subject: You have book 7 in your hands, what now?
Message-ID: <c26.19ddfb21.33d6536c@aol.com>

I was going to pace myself with a chapter a day --- but of course that  
didn't happen. Luckily (???) the way my schedule is running right now --- 100  
pages is about all I'm averaging per day --- so in theory I should have about  
five more days to go if I don't find any spare time!
 
:-)
 
Cat
 
 
 
 



From cakepanlady at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 23 19:13:03 2007
From: cakepanlady at hotmail.com (rainbowkitty0)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:13:03 -0000
Subject: how many pages?
Message-ID: <f82ujv+b2s0@eGroups.com>

I am in Canada and my book has 608 pages.  I have seen sites and
reviews in the US that says it is 789 pages!  That's a huge
difference!  How many pages and chapters does your book have?  I have
finished reading mine (it was great!) but am worried that I am missing
something with that 150 page difference!

rainbowkitty0



From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Jul 23 19:42:16 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:42:16 -0000
Subject: how many pages?
In-Reply-To: <f82ujv+b2s0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f830ao+755o@eGroups.com>

 "rainbowkitty0" wrote:
>
> I am in Canada and my book has 608 pages.  I have seen sites and
> reviews in the US that says it is 789 pages!  That's a huge
> difference!  How many pages and chapters does your book have?  I have
> finished reading mine (it was great!) but am worried that I am missing
> something with that 150 page difference!



Potioncat:
What I understand is that the American version is set up differently. 
It has illustrations at each chapter, as well as a different font. 
Also, anytime there's a note from one character to another, it's set in 
a different font than the rest of the page.

Of course, I'm only reporting what I've heard. I've never seen a non-
American version.
Kathy





From tfaucette6387 at charter.net  Mon Jul 23 20:03:17 2007
From: tfaucette6387 at charter.net (anne_t_squires)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:03:17 -0000
Subject: how many pages?
In-Reply-To: <f830ao+755o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f831i5+ek8a@eGroups.com>


>  "rainbowkitty0" wrote:
> >
> > I am in Canada and my book has 608 pages.  I have seen sites and
> > reviews in the US that says it is 789 pages!  That's a huge
> > difference!  How many pages and chapters does your book have?  I have
> > finished reading mine (it was great!) but am worried that I am missing
> > something with that 150 page difference!
> 
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
> What I understand is that the American version is set up differently. 
> It has illustrations at each chapter, as well as a different font. 
> Also, anytime there's a note from one character to another, it's set in 
> a different font than the rest of the page.
> 
> Of course, I'm only reporting what I've heard. I've never seen a non-
> American version.
> Kathy
>

Anne Squires;

I have an American edition.  It has 759 pages.  The beginning of each
chapter has an illustration. (I have to say that I rather like these
illustrations.)  Four pages into chapter two has a icon type picture
of DD's face.  Also, whenever a letter is read by Harry the font
changes.  Whenever a newspaper article or part of a book is read by
Harry it is indented further into the margins on both the left and
right sides.  Since there is quite a bit of newspaper reading and book
reading in this book, I think that could account for the increased
number of pages. Oh yes, I almost forgot---if Harry reads a headline
it is set apart from the rest of the text and it is in rather large
bold type.

Anne Squires




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 20:04:09 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:04:09 -0000
Subject: Reactions to DH (Was: Spoiler Warning)
In-Reply-To: <ceb.15b2cf50.33d58fa1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f831jp+icnv@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> BTW, I  didn't see the photos of the epilogue (an even worse
violation, IMO, since  it reveals at least some names of characters
who survive), does anyone know  whether it was authentic? (I saw the
photo of the first page and someone's  hand. That one was definitely
the real thing.)
 
Sandy responded:
>  
> Yes, it was authentic. I did a search for it and read  it of my own
free will two days before the book was released. I don't mind being 
spoiled and had intended to read the last chapter first anyway. I just
got a  jump start on it. 
> When I read it I wasn't sure if it was real though. Had to  wait to
get my book to find out. It was.
>  
> Carol, I am very much looking forward to hearing  everything you
have to say about the book when the main list reopens on Tuesday.  I
thought about you at a certain point in the book. Can't wait to hear
your take  on it.
>  
> Sandy, who also read herself blind.
>  
> P.S.  I did refrain from reading the NY Times  review. I totally
agree with the ethics of it, and I didn't want to be too  spoiled. 

Carol again:
Hi, Sandy. I posted some of my initial reactions in the Hog's Head in
messages 5692 and 5697
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hogs_Head/message/5692
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hogs_Head/message/5697

Any member can read them; nonmembers can easily join. They do allow
spoilers (with spoiler space and a spoiler-free subject line), but
anyone who hasn't read the book and doesn't want to be spoiled should
not go there.

Carol, curious to know what made you think of me :-)




From illyanadmc at thegiant.org  Mon Jul 23 20:29:38 2007
From: illyanadmc at thegiant.org (illyana delorean)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:29:38 -0000
Subject: Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <f82rpv+ccq0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8333i+oq5d@eGroups.com>

i don't consider this a spoiler either - remember, "muggle-born" and "muggle" are two 
different things! (just in case someone had a lapse.)

illyana

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "anne_t_squires" <tfaucette6387 at ...> wrote:
>
> Anne Squires:
> 
> I don't consider this a spoiler because I'm going to quote from OotP
> (US hardback edition page 30)
> 
> 
> 
> "My dad's Muggle-born and he's a right old slob." That's Tonks words,
> speaking of her dad.






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 20:33:57 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:33:57 -0000
Subject: DH in other languages
In-Reply-To: <f82rpv+dv6o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f833bl+r7s6@eGroups.com>

emmaiveth wrote:

<snip> I must comment that although I am fluent in english and it?s
possible to buy the english /american version(and I do read it in
english). It is always very much spoiled for everyone who reads it in
another language: here in mexico they at least take 6 months sometimes
more in translating (sometimes with awful mistakes) <snip>

Carol responds:

When you've read the Mexican translation, assuming that the spoiler
policy has lifted, maybe you can entertain us with some of those awful
mistakes. Or how about some mistakes from earlier books? I know I'd be
entertained, and I know at least one other poster from this list who
would be, too. (Waves to Mila.)

Carol, who thinks that some of us here could use a smile right now






From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 20:38:30 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:38:30 -0000
Subject: DH in other languages
In-Reply-To: <f82rpv+dv6o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f833k6+l6vj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "emmaiveth" <emmayrosa at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I bet a lot of you are still reading. And although the
> publishers tried to keep leaks of spoilers as well as some fan sites
> from spoiling it for fans. I must comment that although I am fluent 
in
> english and it?s possible to buy the english /american version(and 
I do
> read it in english). It is always very much spoiled for everyone who
> reads it in another language: here in mexico they at least take 6
> months sometimes more in translating( sometimes with awful 
mistakes) and
> printing so for a lot of my friends it?s spoiled by the time they 
get
> it, because it?s been on the web talked about by readers for so 
long.
> 
> We are so lucky to be ale to read it without too many spoilers if 
that
> is our wish.
> 
> Happy reading, rereading ;)
> Emma


Hi Emma,
You know a book like this is sold pretty much everywere (the english 
version at first). I know you can get the book in Latin America (I 
read it somewhere), so check your bookstore, since you're fluent in 
English you shouldn't have any trouble reading it (I think), then you 
wouldn't have to wait for months until it's translated into spanish. 
Even if your local bookstore doesn't sell it, you could always order 
it from a mayor bookstore in Mexico city or simply order it from the 
internet. Mayor retailers like Amazon and Barnes and Nobles deliver 
abroad, there's an extra cost of course, but what's 10 dollars 
compared to reading the DH?

Hope you get the book soon, it's worth every penny.

Cheers,
Juli





From k.coble at comcast.net  Mon Jul 23 19:51:09 2007
From: k.coble at comcast.net (Katherine Coble)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:51:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <6466ACA5-F542-4B56-86D8-953E12E969CD@comcast.net>

Ted Tonks is a MUGGLE BORN WIZARD (Like Hermoine).  He's not a muggle.
On Jul 23, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing  
Force wrote:

> I don't usually reply to my own posts, but I do agree with and  
> respect the
> elves no-spoiler policy. I apologize for the spoiler post, but I  
> admit to
> being glad I remembered to put in the SPOILER space. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lee :-)
>
> Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm
> I may not care to lead; | N2FGC
> Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
> I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
> Walk beside me, and be my friend.
>
>
> 



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From catlady at wicca.net  Mon Jul 23 20:55:44 2007
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston))
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:55:44 -0000
Subject: how many pages?
In-Reply-To: <f831i5+ek8a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f834kg+i64v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "anne_t_squires"
<tfaucette6387 at ...> wrote:

<< I have an American edition.  It has 759 pages.  The beginning of each
chapter has an illustration. >>

I like the chapter head illustrations, too, but in DH I really noticed
that several of them are definite spoilers for the chapter.




From aslitumerkan at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 21:11:50 2007
From: aslitumerkan at gmail.com (aslitumerkan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:11:50 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <876310.38427.qm@web60719.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f835im+p76g@eGroups.com>

I've finished the book and dyng to  talk to someone however i dont 
know how to im you
Asli




From ekrdg at verizon.net  Tue Jul 24 02:55:29 2007
From: ekrdg at verizon.net (ekrbdg)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:55:29 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f7sl5c+br3f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f83pn1+bm5h@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter at ...> wrote:
>
  final book then somehow
> I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom.  But here I sit, looking
> at it, not knowing when I'll open it up.  Does anyone else relate to 
this?
>


I know what you mean.  I got it Friday night midnight but didn't start 
reading it because I had to work 5 a.m..   When I got home and settled 
from work I found myself almost stalling.   I was afraid to start it 
and quite anxious over it.   I couldn't wait to read it but just kept 
sort of side tracking myself.   I found myself feeling almost sick 
over starting it, I was quite worked up.   I wasn't afraid for the 
series to end but just afraid of what might happen at the end.

Kimberly




From ekrdg at verizon.net  Tue Jul 24 03:13:36 2007
From: ekrdg at verizon.net (ekrbdg)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:13:36 -0000
Subject: in the chat room--12:30 Monday
In-Reply-To: <b6e131bf0707231101t15214d81sbcdfb824bc4881a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f83qp0+eu54@eGroups.com>

I'm in the chaterroom now, it's Monday at 11:12 p.m..




From tonks_op at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 05:38:14 2007
From: tonks_op at yahoo.com (Tonks)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:38:14 -0000
Subject: Putting off reading DH because I can't stand to have it all end
In-Reply-To: <f83pn1+bm5h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f84386+iei5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "ekrbdg" <ekrdg at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lydiaccc" <demeter@> 
wrote:
> >
>   final book then somehow
> > I'll stave off the dying-away of the fandom.  But here I sit, 
looking at it, not knowing when I'll open it up.  Does anyone else 
relate to this?
> >
> 
> 
> I know what you mean. Snip) When I got home and settled 
> from work I found myself almost stalling.   I was afraid to start 
it 
> and quite anxious over it.   I couldn't wait to read it but just 
kept 
> sort of side tracking myself.   I found myself feeling almost sick 
> over starting it, I was quite worked up.   I wasn't afraid for the 
> series to end but just afraid of what might happen at the end.

Tonks:

I can relate to both of you. It was the only time that I was not 
looking forward to reading it, but saw it more like a bad task. But 
once past the second chapter I got into it. Had to take breaks 
because of the emotional impact, but made it through by 5 am on 
Monday.

I can't wait for the main list to open. 

Tonks_op
Depressed.




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 05:57:14 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:57:14 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] FREE Kodak "Harry Potter" & 'safe' news *
Message-ID: <d1f.b7e0638.33d6eeba@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/20/2007 3:18:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bumbledor at comcast.net writes:

Tried  to view it, but they want me to sign up for something.. No  thanks.




All they want you to do is register. It doesn't cost anything and then you  
can add Gail's phots and slideshows to your gallery and watch them anytime. I'm 
 glad I took the chance and registered because her slideshows are great. I  
haven't spent a dime there nor have I been pressured to do so. 
 
Sandy



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From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 06:06:11 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:06:11 -0000
Subject: Something Unrelated to Harry Potter (Jasper Fforde)
Message-ID: <f844sj+m0ai@eGroups.com>

Hi Everyone,

My friend and I hopped a train to New York City today to see Jasper
Fforde at Partners & Crime book store.  He spoke a bit about writing
in general, writing the newest Thursday Next novel, and took questions
from the audience before signing books.

I just wanted to share because I think he is brilliant and wonderful.  I 
sometimes forget (usually in being caught up with Harry Potter) how much 
I love his novels. I highly recommend them.  He is also as entertaining 
and clever in person as you would expect him to be in reading his books.  
If you live anywhere near those places he's visiting, I strongly 
recommend going to see him.  
http://www.jasperfforde.com/appearances.html

I am completely torn between re-reading Deathly Hallows and reading
this new Thursday Next.  I cannot handle two obsessions at once!

KathyK, who nearly didn't go because it was rainy today but is extremely 
glad she did




From ewetoo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 06:18:31 2007
From: ewetoo at gmail.com (ewe2)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:18:31 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Something Unrelated to Harry Potter (Jasper Fforde)
In-Reply-To: <f844sj+m0ai@eGroups.com>
References: <f844sj+m0ai@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <91d14f320707232318u4db5983ap80358f9bb57de789@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/24/07, KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> My friend and I hopped a train to New York City today to see Jasper
> Fforde at Partners & Crime book store.  He spoke a bit about writing
> in general, writing the newest Thursday Next novel, and took questions
> from the audience before signing books.

>snip<

It has been difficult the last few years not to apply the Fforde
approach to Rowling.

> I am completely torn between re-reading Deathly Hallows and reading
> this new Thursday Next.  I cannot handle two obsessions at once!
>
> KathyK, who nearly didn't go because it was rainy today but is extremely
> glad she did

I'm insanely jealous and thanks for reminding me i must get the new book.

ewe2, far away from the centre of the universe
-- 
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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 06:29:25 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:29:25 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
Message-ID: <d68.c66d89b.33d6f645@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 5:46:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tonks_op at yahoo.com writes:

You  LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!! J.K. Rowling is 
brutal!!  Thank God she wrote the Epilogue, it helped to take the edge 
off. I think  I hate her.

Tonks_op




Sandy:
 
I share your  feelings.



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From raymonddavenport at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 24 07:02:18 2007
From: raymonddavenport at btinternet.com (raymond300659)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:02:18 -0000
Subject: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <d68.c66d89b.33d6f645@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f8485q+qr09@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/23/2007 5:46:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> tonks_op at ... writes:
> 
> You  LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!! J.K. Rowling 
is 
> brutal!!  Thank God she wrote the Epilogue, it helped to take the 
edge 
> off. I think  I hate her.
> 
> Tonks_op
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sandy:
>  
> I share your  feelings.


i do not the books have been heading this way and it is well done to 
jkr a fiting end 
> 
> 
> 
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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 08:04:32 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:04:32 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
Message-ID: <cb9.16ef42de.33d70c90@aol.com>

 
S
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>Tonks:
>You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!  J.K. Rowling is
>brutal!! Thank God she wrote the Epilogue, it helped to  take the edge
>off. I think I hate  her.
>Tonks_op

Lenore:
I tend to agree with you that JKR seems  unnecessarily "brutal" in many
aspects. (Obviously, discussion of specifics  must wait.) And I definitely
do not think the book is suitable for  children, (g), unless they are 
at least  30!




Sandy:
In the chat and in my journal I stated that this is not a child's book.  
Totally unsuitable for anyone under the age of 16 at least. I am nearly 59 and  
chapter one was just horrifying, and the violence throughout the book was more  
than I could bear. Yes, very brutal. JKR has a dark, evil, twisted mind - imo 
of  course.
 
Sandy



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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 08:33:46 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:33:46 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Reactions to DH (Was: Spoiler Warning)
Message-ID: <c7f.dbb08f3.33d7136a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 4:06:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:

 
Carol, curious to know what made you think of me :-)


 


Sandy:
 
Your poor Severus, of course :-)



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From ladymela99 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 13:13:37 2007
From: ladymela99 at yahoo.com (Melanie)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <0JLN00AJD1E4X1K0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <866152.52987.qm@web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lee wrote:
   
  \Uh--How could he if he, according to OOTP, is a muggle? Could he be the
one doing magic late in life? <Smile.

My reply:
   
  No, he was a muggle-born.  Sirius never referred to him as a muggle..just a muggle born.  He is a wizard.
   
  ~Melanie

       
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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 13:42:45 2007
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:42:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Something Unrelated to Harry Potter (Jasper Fforde)
In-Reply-To: <f844sj+m0ai@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <890333.8930.qm@web63415.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


--- KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> 
> My friend and I hopped a train to New York City
> today to see Jasper
> Fforde at Partners & Crime book store.  He spoke a
> bit about writing
> in general, writing the newest Thursday Next novel,
> and took questions
> from the audience before signing books.
> 
> I just wanted to share because I think he is
> brilliant and wonderful.  I 
> sometimes forget (usually in being caught up with
> Harry Potter) how much 
> I love his novels. I highly recommend them.  He is
> also as entertaining 
> and clever in person as you would expect him to be
> in reading his books.  
> If you live anywhere near those places he's
> visiting, I strongly 
> recommend going to see him.  
> http://www.jasperfforde.com/appearances.html
> 
> I am completely torn between re-reading Deathly
> Hallows and reading
> this new Thursday Next.  I cannot handle two
> obsessions at once!
> 
> KathyK, who nearly didn't go because it was rainy
> today but is extremely 
> glad she did
> 
Sheryll:

I'm glad you went, too, and came back to tell us all
about it. I'm a Fforde fan as well, having just
finished *The Big Over Easy*. Not one of the Thursday
Next series but just as much fun.

Thanks for the link to future appearances. Generally
those don't include anything near me, but a glance at
this shows a fall visit to our literary festival! Yay!
Now to make sure I've got the day off (as soon as we
have a concrete date). :D

Sheryll


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From random832 at fastmail.us  Tue Jul 24 13:46:56 2007
From: random832 at fastmail.us (random832 at fastmail.us)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:46:56 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0JLN00LK32B8EXM0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <1185284816.14595.1201769581@webmail.messagingengine.com>

SPOILER
SPACE
BECAUSE
I'M
PARANOID
ABOUT
BEING
ACCUSED
OF
SPOILING

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:42:35 -0400, "Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing
Force" <n2fgc at arrl.net> said:
> I don't usually reply to my own posts, but I do agree with and respect
> the elves no-spoiler policy.  I apologize for  the spoiler post, but I admit
> to being glad I remembered to put in the SPOILER space. :-)

Well, your post wasn't a spoiler anyway , except maybe one for the
_fifth_ book. You'd simply misinterpreted the line in OOTP - the point
was that according to the Black family, he's no _better_ than a Muggle,
so Andromeda was blasted off the tapestry.

(http://www.thesnitch.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3446&pid=231366&st=30
- thread from well before DH, before even any leaks, proving this was
well-known before.)

Though, what happened to the policy that we could post them here as long
as we included spoiler space, anyway? I remember early on the mods
saying that was how it was going to be.
-- 
Random832




From random832 at fastmail.us  Tue Jul 24 13:51:25 2007
From: random832 at fastmail.us (random832 at fastmail.us)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:51:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Found Booboo! (was RE: DH Spoiler
In-Reply-To: <f8333i+oq5d@eGroups.com>
References: <f8333i+oq5d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1185285085.16108.1201771825@webmail.messagingengine.com>

illyana
> i don't consider this a spoiler either - remember, "muggle-born" and
> "muggle" are two different things! (just in case someone had a lapse.)

I think the source of confusion is that it's stated elsewhere in the
books that Andromeda "married a muggle".
-- 
Random832




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 24 17:08:53 2007
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:08:53 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <6466ACA5-F542-4B56-86D8-953E12E969CD@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <f85bn5+ts6j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Katherine Coble <k.coble at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Ted Tonks is a MUGGLE BORN WIZARD (Like Hermoine).  He's not a 
muggle.
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing  
> Force wrote:
> 
Belinda:
You wouldn't believe the emails we get at the Lexicon about this.
The problem stems from the Black Family Tree on which the note next to 
Andromeda's burn mark notes she "Married a muggle".  Obviously this is 
the reason that the person (Mrs.Black most likely) would SAY for 
disowning her.  To them a muggle-born is the same as a muggle.  It is 
not canon proof of Ted's blood status.  He was a Muggle-born wizard.
It is however canon, because its Jo's wording on the BFT.  People 
write in to tell us *we've* made a mistake on the BFT all the time, 
but we won't be rewriting it.




From juli17 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 17:17:50 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:17:50 -0400
Subject: Something Unrelated to Harry Potter (Jasper Fforde)
In-Reply-To: <1185284636.5752.52045.m56@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1185284636.5752.52045.m56@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <8C99C2DB2C75E8D-E00-5292@WEBMAIL-MB02.sysops.aol.com>




On 7/24/07, KathyK <zanelupin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> My friend and I hopped a train to New York City today to see Jasper
> Fforde at Partners & Crime book store.  He spoke a bit about writing
> in general, writing the newest Thursday Next novel, and took questions
> from the audience before signing books.

ew2 wrote:
It has been difficult the last few years not to apply the Fforde
approach to Rowling.

Julie:

Not sure what you mean by this, but I too love the Thursday Next novels
too. Fforde is a fantastically creative author. He is also one of two

authors I can easily imagine writing about the Harry Potter universe
from their own original perspectives. (I am sure the Harry Potter series
will be as much as classic in its genre as the many classic novels Fforde 
references in his stories, but of course JKR will retain the copyright
unlike with those older novels.) I can just see Thursday prowling through
the Hogwarts ferreting out an intruder who's altered the characters or
setting (Hogwarts Disneyfied with pure white turrets! Snape a suave ladies
man! Quidditch played with beach balls!).

*
The other author, BTW, is Gregory Maguire, who wrote Wicked and Confessions
of an Ugly Stepsister, reimagining two classics from the perspective of a
supposedly "evil" character, who turns out to be far more complicated and/or
misunderstood than actually evil (sound familiar?). I salivate at the idea of
Maguire retelling the Potter saga from the perspective of a certain snarky
ex-Potions/DADA professor!

Julie, also eager to read the newest Thursday Next novel.




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From kkersey at swbell.net  Tue Jul 24 17:46:35 2007
From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:46:35 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <f85bn5+ts6j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f85dtr+mon0@eGroups.com>

 
Belinda wrote:
> You wouldn't believe the emails we get at the Lexicon about this.
> The problem stems from the Black Family Tree on which the note next to 
> Andromeda's burn mark notes she "Married a muggle".  Obviously this is 
> the reason that the person (Mrs.Black most likely) would SAY for 
> disowning her.  To them a muggle-born is the same as a muggle.  It is 
> not canon proof of Ted's blood status.  He was a Muggle-born wizard.
> It is however canon, because its Jo's wording on the BFT.  People 
> write in to tell us *we've* made a mistake on the BFT all the time, 
> but we won't be rewriting it.
>

Belinda, I've got a question about the source for the BFT. The Lexicon
attributes the Black Family Tree information to three sources: two are
partially obscured pictures that were published in the Daily Telegraph
and in a Spanish magazine; the third source, where most of the names
and dates come from, is a fan "Aberforth the Marauder" who went to the
pre-Auction exhibition and took notes, ie. copied all those names and
dates by hand, if I understand correctly.

I've never seen any other pictures or seen any other accounts from
anyone else who may have seen the *original* that JKR drew. The
auction winner never published the full information anywhere either,
right?

So, my point is, almost all the information the Lexicon has about the
BFT is technically from a secondary source, possibly subject to
transcription error. Not that I'm claiming there actually *are* any
transcription mistakes, but without a corroborating source how can you
be sure? 

Are there any other pictures of, or independent accounts of, the
*original* BFT out there? Just curious. Everything I've seen was based
on the Lexicon account.

Elisabet, who greatly appreciates the Lexicon and everyone who
contributes to it, don't get me wrong! 





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 17:59:13 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:59:13 -0000
Subject: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <cb9.16ef42de.33d70c90@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f85elh+dcbl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
>
>  
> Spoiler
> sPoiler
> spOiler
> spoIler
> spoiLer
> spoilEr
> spoileR
> Space
> sPace
> spAce
> spaCe
> spacE
> J
> U
> S
> T
> I
> N
> C
> A
> S
> E
> 
> >Tonks:
> >You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!
> >J.K. Rowling is brutal!! 
> 
> Lenore:
> I .. agree .. that JKR seems  unnecessarily "brutal"...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sandy:
> .. I stated that this is not a child's book.  
> Totally unsuitable for anyone under the age of 16.... 
> I am nearly 59 and chapter one was just horrifying, and
> the violence throughout the book was more than I could 
> bear. Yes, very brutal. JKR has a dark, evil, twisted 
> mind - imo of  course.
>  
> Sandy

bboyminn:

Since when has war ever been romantic or funny? Yes,
after the fact, people do write romantic and funny
stories about it, but when you are in the trenches
with bullets zipping over you head and the friend who
just yesterday saved your life has now had his head
blown off, there aren't many thoughts of romance and
very little to laugh about. 

War, especially a vicious corrupt war like in the book,
is itself a dark, evil, twisted thing that is brutal
beyond belief. 

To tell the story that needed to be told, I think 
JKR was rather restrained.

But that's just me.

Steve/BlueWizard




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 24 18:03:58 2007
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:03:58 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <f85dtr+mon0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f85eue+6slq@eGroups.com>

I'm happy to answer you!
Yes, Aberforth went to the auction veiwing and transcribed the BFT for 
us.  Of course there is always the *possibility* of transcription 
error, but as he did this specifically for reporting the contents, 
there is the extra measure of careful transcription, and therefore we 
trusted his report.
We can now say (since the movie has been released) that Steve visited 
the movie set where he learned additional information on the 
canonicity of the BFT, and it is indeed accurate.
Belinda




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 18:12:40 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:12:40 -0000
Subject: FREE Kodak "Harry Potter" & 'safe' news *
In-Reply-To: <d1f.b7e0638.33d6eeba@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f85feo+2bhq@eGroups.com>

---  OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/20/2007 3:18:42 P.M. Eastern 
> Daylight Time, bumbledor at ... writes:
> 
> Tried  to view it, but they want me to sign up for
> something.. No  thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All they want you to do is register. It doesn't cost
> anything and then you can add Gail's phots and 
> slideshows to your gallery and watch them anytime. 
> I'm glad I took the chance and registered because her 
> slide shows are great. I haven't spent a dime there 
> nor have I been pressured to do so. 
>  
> Sandy


bboyminn:

If she really wanted people to see her slide shows, she
would make them public, which I know can be done because
my sister and niece do it. I frequently view photos on
their Kodak Easyshare sites without having to join.

I would love to see the photos, but I am very reluctant
to give out my personal information and email to a
new website, even one as reliable and professional as
Kodak Easyshare just to see some fan photos when I 
know it doesn't have to be done.

I'm not worried about it 'costing me anything', I'm
worried about the endless flood of emails that is 
likely to come. That's just more junk I have to 
delete from my SPAM folder. 

If I won't join for my sister, why would I join for
a stranger?


Steve/bboyminn




From random832 at fastmail.us  Tue Jul 24 19:54:47 2007
From: random832 at fastmail.us (random832 at fastmail.us)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:54:47 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <f85eue+6slq@eGroups.com>
References: <f85eue+6slq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1185306887.27947.1201840429@webmail.messagingengine.com>

> Belinda:
> We can now say (since the movie has been released) that Steve visited 
> the movie set where he learned additional information on the 
> canonicity of the BFT, and it is indeed accurate.

Hold on - do we know that the movie people didn't just use the Lexicon's
version as a basis, as they (supposedly) did for the 1991 timeline when
it was made "official" on the CoS DVD?
-- 
Random832




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 20:08:22 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:08:22 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
Message-ID: <bce.1b2548a9.33d7b636@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/24/2007 3:57:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
random832 at fastmail.us writes:

Hold  on - do we know that the movie people didn't just use the Lexicon's
version  as a basis, as they (supposedly) did for the 1991 timeline when
it was made  "official" on the CoS DVD?
-- 


Sandy:
 
Belinda is the voice of authority here, but I would imagine Steve might  have 
had a talk with Daniel Radcliffe, who happens to be the person who now owns  
the BFT, or even JKR herself on one of her visits to the studio. I would 
imagine  the former though.
 
Sandy



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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
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From bgrugin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 19:59:29 2007
From: bgrugin at yahoo.com (bgrugin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:59:29 -0000
Subject: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <f85elh+dcbl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f85ln1+2s3i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Spoiler
> > sPoiler
> > spOiler
> > spoIler
> > spoiLer
> > spoilEr
> > spoileR
> > Space
> > sPace
> > spAce
> > spaCe
> > spacE
> > J
> > U
> > S
> > T
> > I
> > N
> > C
> > A
> > S
> > E
> > 
> > >Tonks:
> > >You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!
> > >J.K. Rowling is brutal!! 
> > 
> > Lenore:
> > I .. agree .. that JKR seems  unnecessarily "brutal"...
> > 
> > 
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Since when has war ever been romantic or funny? Yes,
> after the fact, people do write romantic and funny
> stories about it, but when you are in the trenches
> with bullets zipping over you head and the friend who
> just yesterday saved your life has now had his head
> blown off, there aren't many thoughts of romance and
> very little to laugh about. 
> 
> War, especially a vicious corrupt war like in the book,
> is itself a dark, evil, twisted thing that is brutal
> beyond belief. 
> 
> To tell the story that needed to be told, I think 
> JKR was rather restrained.
> 
> But that's just me.
> 
> Steve/BlueWizard
>

MusicalBetsy here:

I loved it too.  Yes, it was brutal, but like Steve said, that's war 
isn't it?  I would rather have it be realistic.  It was a very 
exciting story, with lots of action (although the middle part was 
tamer), and even a few funny lines...though not many, but I expected 
that.  When everyone has finished reading, I'll tell you my favorite 
line in the whole book (Harry says it near the end).  I thought the 
book was a treasure, and I've already started reading it again.





From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 20:43:09 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:43:09 -0000
Subject: The Main List Is Open Again
Message-ID: <f85o8t+s0nn@eGroups.com>

Hi All,

In case you didn't know or forgot, the Main list is now open for
posting again.  Stay far away if you have not finished Deathly Hallows.

KathyK




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Jul 25 01:10:22 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:10:22 -0400
Subject: Anyone Got Skype
Message-ID: <0JLP00ABXN9LOTW0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Hi, :-)

Anyone got Skype on their computer who might want to talk book?

Look me up as Lady_Chocolee.

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From zeldazamboni at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 01:38:13 2007
From: zeldazamboni at yahoo.com (Zelda Zunk)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:38:13 -0000
Subject: Vodemort vs. The Terminator, Who Wins?
Message-ID: <f869i5+adli@eGroups.com>

Happy Harry Potter Day, techies. But in a fight between magic's biggest 
badboy and technology's most feared, who would win? Should Harry not 
fight, but travel through time and reprogram a robot to do his bidding? 
Will he?? There's only one way to find out. Read the book? No way. Vote 
and then argue in the comments (without spoiling it if you already know 
Harry goes all John Connor on His-A**-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named). 

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/accio-governator/voldemort-vs-terminator-who-
wins-281001.php

Zelda Zunk
Corsets & Capes




From bunniqula at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 04:14:10 2007
From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:14:10 -0400
Subject: Morph into an actor/actress? (e.g. Jensen to Gillian)
Message-ID: <1a2738400707242114uc338c34v6f2c7321f35b62ad@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.myheritage.com/morph

I got a seventy-something percent match to Aretha Franklin?  Heh, I'm
half Japanese.

Anyway, I used an older Jensen Ackles pic and they could only do an
86% match to... Jensen Ackles.  Though, they did a 76% match to
Gillian Anderson. :-)  Now, who is the red-headed woman!   Reminiscent
of an X-Files joke on an episode of SPN.

Jensen morphs to Gillian:
http://bebo.com/Widget.jsp?MemberId=4460157618&WidgetId=4460162035

Dina



From beebo8177 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 12:08:37 2007
From: beebo8177 at yahoo.com (beebo8177)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:08:37 -0000
Subject: Adult UK Version of Harry Potter
Message-ID: <f87eg5+3aov@eGroups.com>

I have seen the cover on mugglenet.com for the UK
adult version of book 7 but I can't seem to find it anywhere to order
it! And, I'm not even sure if I need to, is there anything different in
the adult version? Also, if I do want to order it, is there
anywhere in the U.S. to purchase it?


beebo8177



From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 13:23:29 2007
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:23:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Adult UK Version of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <f87eg5+3aov@eGroups.com>
References: <f87eg5+3aov@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf0707250623l3b9506cay236a404f1b7d8e6f@mail.gmail.com>

> I have seen the cover on mugglenet.com for the UK
> adult version of book 7 but I can't seem to find it anywhere to order
> it! And, I'm not even sure if I need to, is there anything different in
> the adult version? Also, if I do want to order it, is there
> anywhere in the U.S. to purchase it?
>
> beebo8177


There's usually not a whole lot of differences between US & UK
versions, but since DH is still pretty new, I guess that might or
might not true.

If you do want to buy a UK copy, though, I recommend chapters.ca or
amazon.co.uk for your purposes.  Since Canada is closer, I'm thinking
that the shipping charges won't be as hefty as ordering from
amazon.co.uk or another Brit spot. :)

~Ali



From taguem at jmsearch.com  Wed Jul 25 15:05:17 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:05:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Morph into an actor/actress? (e.g. Jensen to Gillian)
In-Reply-To: <1a2738400707242114uc338c34v6f2c7321f35b62ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01Cpsfv3Q3p000024a0@compdevsys.com>

They made me George Clooney !!! I was feeling a little masculine today?
hahah!

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

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From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dina Lerret
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:14 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Morph into an actor/actress? (e.g. Jensen to
Gillian)

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.myheritage.com/morph"http://www.myherita-ge.com/morph

I got a seventy-something percent match to Aretha Franklin? Heh, I'm
half Japanese.

Anyway, I used an older Jensen Ackles pic and they could only do an
86% match to... Jensen Ackles. Though, they did a 76% match to
Gillian Anderson. :-) Now, who is the red-headed woman! Reminiscent
of an X-Files joke on an episode of SPN.

Jensen morphs to Gillian:
HYPERLINK
"http://bebo.com/Widget.jsp?MemberId=4460157618&WidgetId=4460162035"http://b
ebo.-com/Widget.-jsp?MemberId=-4460157618&-WidgetId=-4460162035

Dina

 


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From joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 25 17:38:09 2007
From: joemurphyus at sbcglobal.net (Joe)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:38:09 -0000
Subject: Adult UK Version of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <b6e131bf0707250623l3b9506cay236a404f1b7d8e6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f881q1+1p6f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "P. Alexis Nguyen" 
<alexisnguyen at ...> wrote:
>
> > I have seen the cover on mugglenet.com for the UK
> > adult version of book 7 but I can't seem to find it anywhere to 
order
> > it! And, I'm not even sure if I need to, is there anything 
different in
> > the adult version? Also, if I do want to order it, is there
> > anywhere in the U.S. to purchase it?
> >
> > beebo8177
> 
> 
> There's usually not a whole lot of differences between US & UK
> versions, but since DH is still pretty new, I guess that might or
> might not true.
> 
> If you do want to buy a UK copy, though, I recommend chapters.ca or
> amazon.co.uk for your purposes.  Since Canada is closer, I'm 
thinking
> that the shipping charges won't be as hefty as ordering from
> amazon.co.uk or another Brit spot. :)
> 
> ~Ali
>

I thought I read that in the early HP books Scholastic replaced most 
of the Briticisms that they thought American's wouldn't get with 
more American phrases (pity, that), but that in the last few books 
they left most of the Briticisms in. I did notice that in DH they 
mentioned the Sorcerer's Stone which was called the Philosopher's 
Stone in all editions but the American ones (and is called that 
historically). I guess Scholastic thought they would confuse US 
readers if they mentioned the Stone by it's true name rather than 
the marketing one they came up with for the first book.

Joe




From bhobbs36 at verizon.net  Wed Jul 25 19:26:40 2007
From: bhobbs36 at verizon.net (Belinda)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:26:40 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <1185306887.27947.1201840429@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <f8885g+9fh2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, random832 at ... wrote:
>
> > Belinda:
> > We can now say (since the movie has been released) that Steve 
visited 
> > the movie set where he learned additional information on the 
> > canonicity of the BFT, and it is indeed accurate.
> 
> Hold on - do we know that the movie people didn't just use the 
Lexicon's
> version as a basis, as they (supposedly) did for the 1991 timeline 
when
> it was made "official" on the CoS DVD?
> -- 
> Random832
>
Yes, we know that the set designers contacted Jo and she provided the 
names and dates for the tapestry that appears in the movie.  It 
matches up almost exactly to the BFT we have from the charity drawing 
that Dan purchased.  (Steve did not have a chance to ask Dan if he 
would share it, but we hope for that someday.)
The very minor differences on the movie set vs. the charity drawing 
are one date change (we think may have been a correction on Jo's 
part) one spelling, and a few additional names. =)
Belinda




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Jul 25 22:49:24 2007
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:49:24 -0000
Subject: Adult UK Version of Harry Potter
In-Reply-To: <f87eg5+3aov@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f88k1k+ik0c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "beebo8177" <beebo8177 at ...> wrote:
>
> I have seen the cover on mugglenet.com for the UK
> adult version of book 7 but I can't seem to find it anywhere to order
> it! And, I'm not even sure if I need to, is there anything different in
> the adult version? Also, if I do want to order it, is there
> anywhere in the U.S. to purchase it?
> 
> 
> beebo8177

Geoff:
If you are speaking of the UK versions, there is no difference 
between the adult and young people's version sexcept fo the 
dust jacket. I just looked more intellectual reading the adult
version on the deck of a steamer soming back fro the Isles 
of Scilly to the UK mainland. :-)

Bloomsbury also do a rather nice "library" edition which comes 
out in due course. It's a hardback volume with a plain colour 
cover (different for each book). In the centre on the front is a 
4" square drawing taken from part of the the young people's 
version.

They look quite posh sitting next to my Tolkien volumes on 
the window sill behind the computer.





From taguem at jmsearch.com  Thu Jul 26 11:58:17 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:58:17 -0400
Subject: Just finished... wow... wow...
In-Reply-To: <f7tl2r+404o@eGroups.com>
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Loved it? it was war? after reading it I certainly felt wounded as well? man
oh man? 

 

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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Thu Jul 26 12:25:19 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:25:19 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Unusual Reading Deathly Hallows Story, I think.
In-Reply-To: <f85elh+dcbl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01wW3qdC7d700002dd0@compdevsys.com>

 

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter%40yahoogroups.com"HPFGU-OTChatter at -yahoogroups.-com,
OctobersChild48 at -... wrote:
>
> 
> Spoiler
> sPoiler
> spOiler
> spoIler
> spoiLer
> spoilEr
> spoileR
> Space
> sPace
> spAce
> spaCe
> spacE
> J
> U
> S
> T
> I
> N
> C
> A
> S
> E
> 
> >Tonks:
> >You LOVED IT???? Are you a masochist or something!!
> >J.K. Rowling is brutal!! 
> 
> Lenore:
> I .. agree .. that JKR seems unnecessarily "brutal"...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sandy:
> .. I stated that this is not a child's book. 
> Totally unsuitable for anyone under the age of 16.... 
> I am nearly 59 and chapter one was just horrifying, and
> the violence throughout the book was more than I could 
> bear. Yes, very brutal. JKR has a dark, evil, twisted 
> mind - imo of course.
> 
> Sandy

bboyminn:

Since when has war ever been romantic or funny? Yes,
after the fact, people do write romantic and funny
stories about it, but when you are in the trenches
with bullets zipping over you head and the friend who
just yesterday saved your life has now had his head
blown off, there aren't many thoughts of romance and
very little to laugh about. 

War, especially a vicious corrupt war like in the book,
is itself a dark, evil, twisted thing that is brutal
beyond belief. 

To tell the story that needed to be told, I think 
JKR was rather restrained.

But that's just me.

Steve/BlueWizard

I agree completely? going from book 6 to the 7th?we all KNEW it would be
war? even my 12 year old neighbor and I knew it would be ugly.

Michelle


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From specialcritters at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 26 14:12:34 2007
From: specialcritters at hotmail.com (Lee Truslow)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:12:34 -0400
Subject: Rowling tells what happens next
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From jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 16:29:04 2007
From: jamiesonwolf at gmail.com (Jamieson Wolf)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:29:04 -0400
Subject: Looking for Writers for new Harry Potter Blog
Message-ID: <5cb2ac630707260929p623df1ben6c95af7dd96317dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,

I thought it would be fun to take my Harry Potter obsession one step further
and create a Harry Potter blog. It's called Magic for Muggles and you can
find it here:

 http://www.magicformuggles.blogspot.com/

I've just started setting it up but there is a letter there from Mafalda
Hopplefink which explains what the blog is about.

In short, I thought it would be neat, now that book seven is out and most
people have finished reading it, if there was a place we could post all
things Harry Potter. So this is where you all come in.

I'm looking for thoughts on the books, HP book reviews, thoughts on your
favorite characters, articles about HP you may have written. Anything Harry
Potter related (with the exception of Fan Fiction. Though I love it, there
are enough FF sites out there already) is welcome!

So check out www.magicformuggles.blogspot.com  and if you have anything you
would like to send, pop it in an email to jamiesonwolf at gmail.com  with Magic
for Muggles in the subject line.

You will get credit for the article and even get a link posted under your
name to wherever you'd like.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers,
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 21:51:33 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:51:33 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <f85eue+6slq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8b515+66no@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Belinda" <bhobbs36 at ...> wrote:
>
> I'm happy to answer you!
> Yes, Aberforth went to the auction veiwing and transcribed the BFT
for us.  Of course there is always the *possibility* of transcription
 error, but as he did this specifically for reporting the contents, 
there is the extra measure of careful transcription, and therefore we
 trusted his report.
> We can now say (since the movie has been released) that Steve
visited the movie set where he learned additional information on the
canonicity of the BFT, and it is indeed accurate.
> Belinda
>
Carol responds:
I guess that's more confirmation that JKR can't do math, then.
Thirteen-year-old fathers? As for Andromeda marrying a "Muggle," I
chalk that up to pure-blood prejudice, which doesn't distinguish a
Muggle-born from a Muggle-born. However, canon states that Ted Tonks
is a Muggle-born so the BFT is wrong. Possibly you could acknowledge
that in a note if you haven't done so already. It's also possible that
the BFT Aberforth saw was a draft and that an editor had not pointed
out the inconsistencies and, er, improbabilities.

Carol, not criticizing, just noting the inconsistency






From colouringpurple at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 21:21:02 2007
From: colouringpurple at yahoo.com (jerri willmore)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Coincidence- Potter and my sci-fi story!
Message-ID: <125827.11442.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

           
   
   

                    I had long been planning on writing a science fiction story with a medieval girl in it named Lily. In 1990 this scene popped in my head: she is riding a swing as a child and right at the top of the arc she leaps off and floats to the ground. Later he daughter does the same thing. I didn't write the story for another 12 years and by that time, the swing scene and the daughter had been deleted. I didn't make much of it untill I read "Hollows," and it has Harry's mom Lily doing the same thing! I read Rowling came up with the Potter idea in 1990, wonder if she thought of the swing scene then? Am I psychic? ;)
  By the way my story is at: http://www.geocities.com/colouringpurple/washere.html .
   
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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 22:27:17 2007
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:27:17 -0000
Subject: Coincidence- Potter and my sci-fi story!
In-Reply-To: <125827.11442.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f8b745+f9vb@eGroups.com>

Jerri Willmore wrote:
> I had long been planning on writing a science fiction story
> with a medieval girl in it named <snipped potential spoilers>.
> In 1990 this scene popped in my head: <snip>.  I didn't write
> the story for another 12 years and by that time, the <snip>
> had been deleted. I didn't make much of it untill I read
> "Hollows," and it has <snip> doing the same thing! I read
> Rowling came up with the Potter idea in 1990, wonder if she
> thought of the swing scene then? Am I psychic? ;)
> By the way my story is at: 
> http://www.geocities.com/colouringpurple/washere.html .
 
Petra:
Sorry for all the snipping but just in case anyone is out there
who may be spoiled.  :)
 
Jerri, I think that what you wrote is something that is very 
prevalent in our popular culture.  It's an image of childlike
abandonment and you may very well be psychic but I think just as 
likely, you and Rowling have read the same books or watched the 
same movies or commercials!  Or just been around children on 
playgrounds.
 
Nicely done, mother and daughter echoing each other's actions at 
that same point in their development (which is a bit more unique 
than the *image* you described) but the same reason why this 
scene would resonate so well is the same reason I don't think 
you're psychic: I've seen it and done it in RL before either you 
(or Rowling) set it down with words in 1990.  I dare say I'm not
unique in that.
 
I've always been too scared to jump at the tippy top though.
 
Petra
a
n  :)
 
 
 




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 23:52:30 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:52:30 -0000
Subject: Ted Tonks, muggle-born Was Re: Found Booboo!
In-Reply-To: <f8b515+66no@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8bc3u+s2qm@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> <snip> As for Andromeda marrying a "Muggle," I chalk that up to
pure-blood prejudice, which doesn't distinguish a Muggle-born from a
Muggle-born. 

Carol again:
Erm, make that "a Muggle from a Muggle-born." You knew what I meant, I
know, but I had to fix it.

Carol, who just discovered that her aunt, uncle, and cousins are
Potter fans, too




From colouringpurple at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 23:04:45 2007
From: colouringpurple at yahoo.com (colouringpurple)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:04:45 -0000
Subject: Coincidence- Potter and my sci-fi story!
In-Reply-To: <f8b745+f9vb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8b9ad+43g8@eGroups.com>

Petra:
> but the same reason why this
> scene would resonate so well is the same reason I don't think
> you're psychic: I've seen it and done it in RL before either you
> (or Rowling) set it down with words in 1990.  I dare say I'm not
> unique in that.

Jerri Willmore writes:

Thanks so much for your response and to the moderator for allowing my
message thru as well. :)

I am guessing it was only a coincidence but I have had lots of wierd
things happen in my life. :)



From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 01:18:58 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:18:58 -0000
Subject: Epilogue questions answered online (don't worry; no spoiler here)
Message-ID: <f8bh62+d20b@eGroups.com>

Some, not all, of the answers not provided in the epilogue are now
online from JKR's first "Today Show" appearance. She gives occupations
of important characters who survive and information on the future of
Hogwarts, as well as a few other details that people have wondered
about. For a summary with quotes (not a transcript) and the video, go
to the Leaky Cauldron or just click here:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

Today's interview, which I brilliantly missed, is not yet online but I
assume it will be up tomorrow.

Carol, hoping for more answers but expecting Monday's chat to be still
more informative




From predigirl1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 03:52:27 2007
From: predigirl1 at yahoo.com (Alex Hogan)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: how many pages?
In-Reply-To: <f834kg+i64v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <421779.52819.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have always HATED that! It is that way in all the American books. I try very hard not to look at the illustrations, but unfortunatly my eye jumps up to it at times. I don't know why they had to do that, it tends to give away the main plot point of every chapter.
   
  Alex Hogan

"Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady at wicca.net> wrote:
          --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "anne_t_squires"
<tfaucette6387 at ...> wrote:

<< I have an American edition. It has 759 pages. The beginning of each
chapter has an illustration. >>

I like the chapter head illustrations, too, but in DH I really noticed
that several of them are definite spoilers for the chapter.



         

       
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 16:13:06 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:13:06 -0000
Subject: Epilogue questions answered online (don't worry; no spoiler here)
In-Reply-To: <f8bh62+d20b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8d5ii+h67k@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
>
> Some, not all, of the answers not provided in the epilogue are now
online from JKR's first "Today Show" appearance. She gives occupations
of important characters who survive and information on the future of
Hogwarts, as well as a few other details that people have wondered
about. For a summary with quotes (not a transcript) and the video, go
to the Leaky Cauldron or just click here:
> 
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/
> 
> Today's interview, which I brilliantly missed, is not yet online but
I assume it will be up tomorrow.
> 
> Carol, hoping for more answers but expecting Monday's chat to be
still more informative
>
Carol again:

Duh. Don't know what's wrong with my brain. Yes, I do, and her name is
JK Rowling. that aside, I do know what day it is and I did miss the
second interview thinking that today was Saturdaye. So is the part
online about her mother and the last original last line (good thing
she changed it) and Hagrid why there won't be a Book 8 all there is?
No more revelations about careers or more important, thematic questions?

Carol, finding the interview disappointing and wondering when JKR will
stop messing with her mind




From juli17 at aol.com  Fri Jul 27 16:29:53 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (juli17 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:29:53 -0400
Subject: how many pages?
In-Reply-To: <1185530877.645.84460.m41@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1185530877.645.84460.m41@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <8C99E827F393091-91C-5443@MBLK-M42.sysops.aol.com>



Alex wrote:
I have always HATED that! It is that way in all the American books. I try very 
hard not to look at the illustrations, but unfortunatly my eye jumps up to it at 
times. I don't know why they had to do that, it tends to give away the main plot 
point of every chapter.
   
Julie now:
Fortunately I am usually so engrossed in the storyline I forget to look at the
small illustrations above each chapter heading! When I remember I go back three
or four chapters to see what I missed.


I have to say though that I do LOVE those small illustrations. I wonder if 
they've been collected together at any website (Leaky, Mugglenet...) for 
those who don't read the Scholastic editions? Some of them are very good,
and my favorite in DH was the one of Harry sitting on a rock staring so
pensively into space (don't have the book with me, and I don't recall which
chapter this illustration headed). I really felt for the poor boy...

Julie



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From phil at pcsgames.net  Fri Jul 27 23:05:45 2007
From: phil at pcsgames.net (Phil Vlasak)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:05:45 -0400
Subject: The music Dan Radcliffe  was listening to
References: <f831jp+icnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <084e01c7d0a2$c5d0bfe0$6600a8c0@phil>

Dan Radcliffe  was listening to the Sigur Ros CD Takk while reading the last Harry Potter book.



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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 01:14:42 2007
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:14:42 -0000
Subject: spoiler or set-up? (was: how many pages?)
In-Reply-To: <8C99E827F393091-91C-5443@MBLK-M42.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <f8e5a2+dvi1@eGroups.com>

Alex Hogan wrote:
> I try very hard not to look at the illustrations, but
> unfortunatly my eye jumps up to it at times. I don't know why
> they had to do that, it tends to give away the main plot point
> of every chapter.
 
Julie:
> Fortunately I am usually so engrossed in the storyline I forget
> to look at the small illustrations above each chapter heading!
> When I remember I go back three or four chapters to see what I
> missed.
 
Petra:
I'm worse.  I'm finally doing my close re-reading and taking 
notes and because of that, finally paying attention to those
illustrations.  Practically brand new, they were to me.  I actually
find the chapter titles of most books more likely to spoil than the
illustrations.  Probably because I can't help but read the titles.  
For example, ch. 30 in DH is a spoiler to me.
 
I so prefer titles and illustrations that only make sense on
re-reading.  Not an easy task - practically calls for a snappy pun for
every chapter in order to lead readers to think one thing and then
during that chapter, turn our initial assumptions upside down. 
Instead of spoiling, such an approach sets readers up for the payoff
in the chapter.  So, you can probably guess that I don't get my
preference often enough.  <eg>
 
Did y'all notice that the symbol on the spine of the British edition
cover of DH is the same symbol used as the puzzle for the last WOMBAT?
I really like that - it's not a spoiler because until I read page 409
(US HB), I won't know what the illustration on page 405, on that book
spine, and behind the Secret Door at JKR's site, may or may not signify.
 
It was fun, upon reading page 409, to recognize that JKR had indeed
introduced the careful fan way back before even page 1 of DH to an
important sign.  A bit of an Eureka moment, a confirm solution to a
puzzle.
 
Julie:
> my favorite in DH was the one of Harry sitting on a rock staring
> so pensively into space (don't have the book with me, and I don't
> recall which chapter this illustration headed). I really felt for
> the poor boy...
 
Petra:
Now, you know if you ask, someone's gonna look it up.  <g>  It's ch.
25, page 502 (US HB).  Blow it up and it'd be nice as a coloring page.
Can't you just picture such coloring pages at the eateries for the HP
theme park?
 
Petra
a
n  :)
 
 
 




From gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx  Sat Jul 28 02:24:02 2007
From: gabolamx at yahoo.com.mx (Gabriela Zambrano)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:24:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The music Dan Radcliffe  was listening to
In-Reply-To: <084e01c7d0a2$c5d0bfe0$6600a8c0@phil>
Message-ID: <580305.80903.qm@web57610.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Wow!! I love Sigur R?s, especially Takk. I think that music was perfect for the reading of Deathly Hallows. Sigur R?s's previous CD ( ) is a lot somber, better suited for Order of the Phoenix IMO.
Do you have a link for that? Sorry if it's been mentioned before, I'm on vacaction and haven't got the time to read all the messages in OTC.


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From retired153 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 01:15:42 2007
From: retired153 at yahoo.com (j15300)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:15:42 -0000
Subject: Harry and Homer
Message-ID: <f8gpnu+5crj@eGroups.com>

Http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0727/p14s02-almo.html




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Date: 29 Jul 2007 15:44:43 -0000
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From seuferer at netins.net  Sun Jul 29 19:36:09 2007
From: seuferer at netins.net (Lisa)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:36:09 -0000
Subject: Contingency Plan
Message-ID: <f8iq79+9up0@eGroups.com>

Contingency Plan - SS/RL SLASH - No DH Spoilers, NC-17
http://weasleyfan.livejournal.com/24864.html

Written for the Lupin_Snape LiveJournal group's challenge 'write your
own ending to Deathly Hallows'.  Written before the release of Deathly
Hallows, no DH spoilers.




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 00:28:29 2007
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Bloomsbury's live chat - Monday 30 July, 2007 @ 2 - 3 p BST
Message-ID: <671285.79035.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi y'all,

 



Don't forget, the live internet chat with J.K. Rowling will take place at 

2.00 - 3.00 pm BST on Monday 30 July, 2007.

 

If you'd like to submit a question for consideration in advance:

 

http://livechat.bloomsbury.com/index.php

 
Petra
a
n  :)
 
 
 





       
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From jlnbtr at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 17:43:20 2007
From: jlnbtr at yahoo.com (jlnbtr)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:43:20 -0000
Subject: Bloomsbury's live chat - Monday 30 July, 2007 @ 2 - 3 p BST
In-Reply-To: <671285.79035.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f8l7vo+dh01@eGroups.com>

I forgot the chat... I had summited a few questions but none got 
picked... anyway, the transcript is available at The Leaky Cauldron and 
it is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G... lots and lots of details

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-
transcript

Juli




From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 20:40:11 2007
From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Harry Potter
Message-ID: <200707302040.l6UKeC9e013933@upsa-web119.ofoto.com>

	 

Harry Potter Photo's * You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy!*Gail*


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and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos.

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Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're
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From paperville at msn.com  Mon Jul 30 19:34:50 2007
From: paperville at msn.com (B.J.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:34:50 -0000
Subject: HP Art
Message-ID: <f8legq+aa96@eGroups.com>

I'm looking for links to the artists who did work for HP collector 
cards and other HP merchandise.

Many thanks,
B.J.




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Tue Jul 31 03:50:01 2007
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 31 Jul 2007 03:50:01 -0000
Subject: New poll for HPFGU-OTChatter 
Message-ID: <1185853801.480.26007.w111@yahoogroups.com>


Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
HPFGU-OTChatter group:

How does everyone feel about DH discussion / spoilers
on OTC now? 

  o Absolutely no spoilers 
  o Okay with plenty of spoiler space 
  o Any and all spoilers are fine at this point 


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/surveys?id=2548787 

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
web site listed above.

Thanks!

 






From zanelupin at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 31 04:12:53 2007
From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:12:53 -0000
Subject: Admin: Spoilers on OTC-Seeking Opinions
Message-ID: <f8mcs5+o4k4@eGroups.com>

Hi Everyone,

We are looking for member opinions on the OTChatter DH spoiler policy.
 Are you happy with the No Spoilers rule at this point?  Would you
rather we allow spoilers?  Is spoiler space necessary?  Please go vote
in our new poll:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/surveys?id=2548787

Many Thanks for your input!

Sincerely,

Zaney Elf, on behalf of the List Elves




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Jul 31 16:40:31 2007
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs. Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:40:31 -0400
Subject: And What Is Today?
Message-ID: <0JM1000A9YBVHON0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR HARRY,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!

And so, we raise our Butterbeers, Oak Matured Mead, Ogden's Old Fire
Whiskey, Elf-Made Wine, and Pumpkin Juice to Harry Potter, The Boy Who
Lives!

Cheers,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.





From anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 31 18:57:59 2007
From: anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com (Katie)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:57:59 -0000
Subject: December Boys
Message-ID: <f8o0nn+6hoa@eGroups.com>

Oh my gosh, December Boys looks fantastic. I would see it even if Dan 
Radcliffe wasn't in it! It's like the Aussie "Stand By Me", with a much 
hotter hot guy and no dead body. And Dan is so natural...he's so stiff 
in the HP movies...I wonder if he's a much better actor than he's been 
allowed to be? Anyway, I can't wait to see it, it's marked on my 
calander!! Ya'll have to see the preview, if you haven't already:

http://wip.warnerbros.com/decemberboys/ 

Katie