From vredeacademy at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 01:33:06 2007 From: vredeacademy at yahoo.com (vredeacademy) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:33:06 -0000 Subject: A HP Canon RPG Message-ID: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Phoenix_Ortus/index.php, or Phoenix Ortus, explores our favorite characters yet still allows for creative license. With each new day, our beloved characters wake to new and more dangerous tasks then when they went to bed. This canon, Harry Potter RPG is Part II of an epic series. Follow your favorite characters through their adult lives and be apart of the ride that Phoenix Ortus will embark on. No character is left behind in this inclusive and involved plot. Five years have come and gone since Harry Potter graduated Hogwarts and defeated Lord Voldemort, but the Wizarding World is always moving ? and growing. For the first time since the end of the war, havoc has struck. A ministry building had been destroyed in a fiery blast leaving only one survivor ? 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The plot above is a mere outline, for more information visit the site, we're waiting for you! From wuff at internode.on.net Thu Mar 1 05:22:43 2007 From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:22:43 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] re: DD's portrait // Daniel's acting In-Reply-To: <8ee758b40702280911l28820106p683d516a7cd4585c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ee758b40702280911l28820106p683d516a7cd4585c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E66323.6040004@internode.on.net> I was wondering to myself why the penis gets a beating in our society. You know, I think it's the most honest part of the body. If you ask someone if they like a thing, they may nod their heads to say they did, or lie. A penis never lies if it likes something, and that could get it's owner in deep trouble :) -- Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife. ICQ - 3449014 Skype - Wolfie_storr * Eats a kid a day * From kkersey at swbell.net Thu Mar 1 14:40:28 2007 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:40:28 -0000 Subject: Cat in the Hat story on NPR (featuring Dr. P. Nel) Message-ID: Dr. Philip Nel, who used to host discussions here on HPfGU way back when, is interviewed on NPR for a story about the 50th anniversary of Dr. Seuss's The Cat in the Hat. There is also a lengthy excerpt of his new book, The Annotated Cat, posted on the NPR website. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7651308 http://tinyurl.com/3crzsg A couple of years ago Dr. Nel gave a lecture here at the Austin Museum of Art in conjunction with a Dr. Seuss exhibit - I'd highly recommend going to hear him if you get a chance, even if he is not talking about Harry Potter. :-) I was just thinking - Dr. Nel is the only HPfGU member I've met in person, that I know of. Elisabet From kkersey at swbell.net Thu Mar 1 14:55:06 2007 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:55:06 -0000 Subject: DD's portrait // Daniel's acting In-Reply-To: <45E66323.6040004@internode.on.net> Message-ID: "Wolfie!" wrote: > I was wondering to myself why the penis gets a beating in our society. Hm. So to speak. Well, as long as there are teenage boys... From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 17:09:27 2007 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:09:27 -0000 Subject: Help me out? Message-ID: I've just received the go-ahead from our District Manager to hold a Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster branch. We're going to play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs and have a trivia contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at making up hard questions but I really need some easy/intermediate questions for kids. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are lots of kids out there who'll get even the hard ones right, but I need something for the younger kids. With the busy schedule I've had lately, I figured I was best off asking the experts for help - that's all of you! Probably a much better idea than me trying to patch it all together at the last minute, which is likely what would happen if left to my own devices. If anyone has ideas for me, you can email me at s_ings at yahoo dot com. Thanks so much for helping me out! Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as I'm the only one who owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) From maritajan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 17:38:26 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <779133.1580.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> for starters . . . 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? Sheryll Townsend wrote: I've just received the go-ahead from our District Manager to hold a Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster branch. We're going to play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs and have a trivia contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at making up hard questions but I really need some easy/intermediate questions for kids. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are lots of kids out there who'll get even the hard ones right, but I need something for the younger kids. With the busy schedule I've had lately, I figured I was best off asking the experts for help - that's all of you! Probably a much better idea than me trying to patch it all together at the last minute, which is likely what would happen if left to my own devices. If anyone has ideas for me, you can email me at s_ings at yahoo dot com. Thanks so much for helping me out! Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as I'm the only one who owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) ------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/maritajan --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bboyminn at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 18:10:45 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:10:45 -0000 Subject: Brit-Life: Washer but no Dryer? Really? Message-ID: Once again I have been browsing London Real Estate eagerly spending the Lottery money I haven't won yet. Again, looking in the Fulham and Battersea areas (SW6 & SW11). By the way, TimesOnLine.com's real estate section is pretty good, with links to many estate agents. The apartements are usually relatively small by America standards two bedrooms and 600 to 1000 sq.ft. ranging in price between ?250,000 and ?500,000, and they are usually very nice, even posh. I've been noticing that the kitchens usually have a compact under-counter front-loading washing machine, and here is the problem, not a Clothes Dryer in sight? So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, which I have never seen in the USA, or do posh people in posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? Just curious. Steve/bboyminn From drdara at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 20:25:50 2007 From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:25:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? Message-ID: <658588.55721.qm@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: MJ To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:38:26 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? for starters . . . 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? Sheryll Townsend wrote: I've just received the go-ahead from our District Manager to hold a Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster branch. We're going to play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs and have a trivia contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at making up hard questions but I really need some easy/intermediate questions for kids. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are lots of kids out there who'll get even the hard ones right, but I need something for the younger kids. With the busy schedule I've had lately, I figured I was best off asking the experts for help - that's all of you! Probably a much better idea than me trying to patch it all together at the last minute, which is likely what would happen if left to my own devices. If anyone has ideas for me, you can email me at s_ings at yahoo dot com. Thanks so much for helping me out! Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as I'm the only one who owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) ------------ --------- --------- - http://www.myspace. com/maritajan ------------ --------- --------- --- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drdara at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 20:27:36 2007 From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:27:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? Message-ID: <297092.45698.qm@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? Fluffy 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? fang 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? norbert 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 1 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? firebolt 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? werewolf-nonanimagus 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? floo powder 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? cat 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? lily and james potter 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? dudley dursley ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From maritajan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 20:33:36 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:33:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? In-Reply-To: <297092.45698.qm@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <157124.18460.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> See how easy those were? :-D danielle dassero wrote: 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? Fluffy 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? fang 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? norbert 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 1 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? firebolt 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? werewolf-nonanimagus 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? floo powder 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? cat 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? lily and james potter 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? dudley dursley __________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/maritajan --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drdara at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 20:42:18 2007 From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? Message-ID: <752637.30912.qm@web60724.mail.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: MJ To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 1:33:36 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? See how easy those were? :-D danielle dassero wrote: 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? Fluffy 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? fang 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? norbert 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 1 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? firebolt 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? werewolf-nonanimagu s 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? floo powder 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? cat 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? lily and james potter 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? dudley dursley ________lol very easy____ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers. yahoo.com/ dir/?link= list&sid= 396545367 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- - http://www.myspace. com/maritajan ------------ --------- --------- --- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 1 23:25:58 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:25:58 -0000 Subject: Brit-Life: Washer but no Drier? Really? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, > are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, which > I have never seen in the USA, or do posh people in > posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? Geoff: If there is no separate drier, then probably yes. We switched to a combination unit when we moved to Porlock 7 years ago for space considerations. From jnferr at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 23:56:51 2007 From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:56:51 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Brit-Life: Washer but no Drier? Really? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ee758b40703011556l15713a9bme455afcd6183a00c@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, Geoff Bannister wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > > So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, > > are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, which > > I have never seen in the USA, or do posh people in > > posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? > > Geoff: > If there is no separate drier, then probably yes. We switched > to a combination unit when we moved to Porlock 7 years ago > for space considerations. montims: I never used a dryer in England, or in Italy where I lived for 10 years - in Italy I had a washer/dryer, but even after 2 hours the clothes were still damp, so stopped using the dryer part - European machines use much less power than American ones. My mother has a posh new dryer which she never uses - if it is too wet to dry things on the line, she hangs them above the radiator... I would say unless it specifies washer/dryer, those flats have washer only. Again probably for power usage, as well as space, reasons. Electricity is very expensive in the UK. Do they state an airing cupboard? Because I've always had airing cupboards in my English flats and houses, and that is where I would dry my clothes... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 00:49:28 2007 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:49:28 -0000 Subject: Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as I'm the only one who > owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) > Kemper now: Sheryll, how early do you get to read the book before the public? If not early, how late you staying up to read after working all day and into the early morning? Kemper From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 01:04:02 2007 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper mentor) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: College drinking outsid the US Message-ID: <935949.88298.qm@web90409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Question: is drinking a problem at colleges in other countries? If yes, what do the problems look like? If no, why not? I was listening to NPR earlier today, discussion was about drinking at colleges. Curisously yours, Kemper --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drednort at alphalink.com.au Fri Mar 2 01:36:15 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:36:15 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] College drinking outsid the US In-Reply-To: <935949.88298.qm@web90409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45E81A3F.25803.D2CD9B@drednort.alphalink.com.au> On 1 Mar 2007 at 17:04, kemper mentor wrote: > Question: is drinking a problem at colleges in other countries? Well, this is my perspective having just spent four years at the University of Melbourne in Australia. No, not really. > If yes, what do the problems look like? > > If no, why not? Well, in Australia, very few kids go away to college in the way they seem to in the US. Most kids stay at home with their parents while they go to university, but if they do leave home, they are more likely to live in flats or sharehouses off campus than they are to live on campus (in fact, at most universities that have on campus housing, the kids who live in it tend to be coming from quite wealthy backgrounds, and the 'colleges' still take a somewhat outdated approach to supervising and controlling their behaviour, that they are able to take because of the historical practices that have built up at the colleges). Alcohol abuse among teens and young adults is a problem in Australia, but it's just not one that is particularly associated with college or university. Kids do get drunk at parties, but the parties will have relatively little to do with their university life. It's also perfectly legal to purchase alcohol here at 18, and a lot of uni students do drink - but most of them do it in at least relative moderation. I think the fact that you don't have to break the law to do it, tends to reduce the pressure to go too far. Not for all kids - some do drink a lot, some far too much. But most really don't. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From jnferr at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 02:02:39 2007 From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:02:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] College drinking outsid the US In-Reply-To: <935949.88298.qm@web90409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <935949.88298.qm@web90409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8ee758b40703011802j7e5bed7csaa2b29caeaac2d0e@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, kemper mentor wrote: > > Question: is drinking a problem at colleges in other countries? > > If yes, what do the problems look like? > > If no, why not? montims: define "problem"...! In the UK, adults are allowed to drink alcohol at will, and adults are 18 years and older. A lot of teens and people in their 20s or so drink to excess - it is the Northern European influence, I think... In Italy, on the other hand, it is seen as shameful to be drunk, at whatever age - people meet for a meal, not for a drink, and wine is drunk with meals from an early age. Hence, it is cool for teenagers, students or otherwise, to drink coke instead of alcohol. Having lived in Iowa City for 3 years, I am astounded at the attitude of students towards drinking, and at the number of PAULAs reported in the Police Blotter of the local paper... I also do not understand the sororities and fraternities, hazing, etc, as these do not exist anywhere else I have been... I really do feel it is the laws forbidding under-21s to drink even a beer (yet permitting 15 year olds to fire guns and drive cars) that lead to the problems in American universities... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bboyminn at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 07:53:02 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:53:02 -0000 Subject: Brit-Life: Washer but no Drier? Really? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Geoff Bannister" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, > > are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, > > whichI have never seen in the USA, or do posh people > > in posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? > > Geoff: > If there is no separate drier, then probably yes. We > switched to a combination unit when we moved to Porlock > 7 years ago for space considerations. > bboyminn: Geoff, referring to what Janette said, does the dryer part of your combination unit actually work? Does it dry the clothes reasonably? As far as air drying or drying in an airing cupboard, how does that work? It must take days to dry heavy clothes like jeans. Plus, how is a person's house ever presentable if their is wet laundry hanging all over the place? Further if you have a family, then you probably go though TONS of laundry. You especially go through a lot of loads of laundry if you have a compact washer. How can a person possibly find enough space to air dry all that laundry. Just a few general questions based on Geoff's and Janette's responses. As a side note; I don't think I've ever seen a combination unit in the USA, not in stores, not in catalogs. Just curious and anticipating all that lottery money. Steve/bboyminn PS: for the record, and for reference of our friends in the UK; since Janette mentioned the cost of Electricity in the UK. I live in a roughly 1100 sq. ft. 2 bedroom with a full size washer and electric dryer. The Electric is about $42/month and the gas is about $97/month. Cut that in half to get the equivalent in British Pounds. 68?F room temp, and mostly florescent light bulbs. From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Mar 2 15:13:49 2007 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (pippin_999) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:13:49 -0000 Subject: Brit-Life: Washer but no Dryer? Really? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve: > So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, > are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, which > I have never seen in the USA, or do posh people in > posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? Pippin: When I lived overseas we had an extractor. It's a sort of centrifuge that's much more powerful than the spin cycle of a washer. The clothes would be nearly dry when you took them out -- ready to hang or press. Pippin From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Fri Mar 2 15:52:17 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:52:17 -0000 Subject: Brit-Life: Washer but no Dryer? Really? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" wrote: > > Steve: > > So, to all our Brit's and Brit-o-philes, I ask this, > > are these most likely a combination washer/dryer, which > > I have never seen in the USA, or do posh people in > > posh apartments simply make do without a dryer? > > > Pippin: > When I lived overseas we had an extractor. It's a sort of > centrifuge that's much more powerful than the spin cycle > of a washer. The clothes would be nearly dry when you > took them out -- ready to hang or press. Geoff: That's a spin drier. We had one when we were first married. Some places will have an ordinary washing machine and a tumble drier. The latter have a rotating drum like a washing machine with warm air being sent through it. We had one until we last moved house in '99 but there wasn't room in the new place to accommodate one so we went for a combination unit. Looking at Steve's last comment, yes we do use it, especially in the winter. We have two dogs who specialise in getting muddy - as does their owner :-) - but we have a rotary washing line in the garden which gets good use on reasonable days - like this morning for instance. (It's raining now, he added in an Eeyore voice). The only drawback of the combination units is that you have to split the wash for drying. With a full load, it can only successfully half the load at once. However, they are very useful. From sydenmill at msn.com Fri Mar 2 21:08:38 2007 From: sydenmill at msn.com (bohcoo) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:08:38 -0000 Subject: Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Sheryll Townsend" wrote: > > I've just received the go-ahead from our District Manager to hold a > Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster branch. We're going to > play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs and have a trivia > contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at making up hard > questions but I really need some easy/intermediate questions for kids. >From Bohcoo: Are you familiar with the Wizard Challenge Game? This game would provide you with questions galore and I doubt if anyone would mind if you used some of them. The questions range from extremely easy to much more memory-challenging. You will find more material than you probably need. Good luck! Sounds like fun! From sydenmill at msn.com Fri Mar 2 21:21:01 2007 From: sydenmill at msn.com (bohcoo) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:21:01 -0000 Subject: Harry, hairy and nudity Message-ID: This is a observation I am sure is widely shared: Steve bboy is one of my all-time favorite posters and someone I always read, no matter what the topic, for his insight and enlightening perspective. He is pure class. I appreciate his courtesy warning to us about Daniel's nudity in the link he provided. I looked. :) So. Having Daniel appear nude on stage sure takes the thunder out of the much-anticipated screen kiss between Harry and Cho, doesn't it? Bohcoo From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 16:29:24 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:29:24 -0000 Subject: More (or less ) Dan on Broadway Message-ID: It seems that David Pugh the Producer of Equus has had offers from 11 Broadway Producers to bring Equus to New York. "Daniel Radcliffe's play Equus has opened in the West End only a few days ago, but Broadway producers are already vying to have the actor bring it to New York City." ""As of Thursday morning, there were 11 offers from different producers - the great and the good, and people I've never heard of," said Equus producer David Pugh." ""Both Daniel and Richard are up for it and so is Thea (Sharrock), our director. It's just a matter of sorting out which producer we'll go with to Broadway," he added." Note the last part, Dan and Richard are UP FOR IT, but Dan can't do it until his HP filming schedule is clear. Still about the only way I could make it to see the show is if I win the Lottery. I'm counting on that Lottery for a lot it seems. Steve/bboyminn From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 16:17:50 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:17:50 -0000 Subject: Harry, hairy and nudity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "bohcoo" wrote: > > This is a observation I am sure is widely shared: > Steve bboy is one of my all-time favorite posters and > someone I always read, no matter what the topic, for > his insight and enlightening perspective. He is pure > class. > bboyminn: I humbly bow before you. Thank you. I try not to let my perspective on anything become to polarized or extreme. > Bohcoo: > > I appreciate his courtesy warning to us about Daniel's > nudity in the link he provided. > > I looked. :) > bboyminn: The consensus seems to be that it is a fake photo, but it makes me wonder what kind of porn collection the faker has, to have had a photo on hand that would fit with Dan's photo. Do you know what the odds are? Very long I think. > Bohcoo: > > So. Having Daniel appear nude on stage sure takes the > thunder out of the much-anticipated screen kiss > between Harry and Cho, doesn't it? > > Bohcoo > bboyminn: As I said, I think there is an element of selfishness in those who don't want Dan to move on. Keep in mind even though Dan has made out and possibly made love in 'December Boys', and has now appeared nude on stage, Harry Potter is still Harry Potter, and Harry Potter is still waiting his first kiss. The greatest praise Dan received, in my opinion, was from Christian Slater when he said that in that critical of on stage nudity, Dan Radcliffe was lost. Not lost as an actor, but lost as a person. The character Alan Strang had taken over, and all he could see was this disturbed boy. In the simplest terms, he didn't see Dan Radcliffe naked, he saw Alan Strang naked. Though I should say that based on what most theater critics said, the minute Dan appears on stage, Dan is gone and it is totally Alan Strang from then on. Hopefully, that is what Dan brings to Harry Potter too. When the kiss comes, if Dan has done his job right, it will be Harry getting kissed, not Dan. I've said from the very beginning that the worst that could happen from Dan taking the role in Equus, is that he will come away a better actor. Everyone is worried about the nudity, but, really, that's the easy part; just take your clothes off. That hard part, and I'm sure Richard Griffiths would agree, is dredging up the emotion eight times a week for 16 weeks. Doing it once is easy, doing it time and time again is difficult. But that is theater, time and time again you reach down inside yourself and pull up your deepest darkest performance. Now, I'm somewhat realistic; Dan went through an audition and countless rehersals. If he wasn't cutting it they would have made a change long ago. So, the worst I expected was for Dan to be just OK or good, and to come away a wiser, more experienced, more talented actor. I think beyond breaking people's preception of him, that is what Dan was trying to achieve. To have challenged himself as an actor in the extreme, and to have come away better for it. On all counts, he certainly succeeded. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Mar 3 18:24:00 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: More (or less ) Dan on Broadway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > It seems that David Pugh the Producer of Equus has had > offers from 11 Broadway Producers to bring Equus to New > York. > > "Daniel Radcliffe's play Equus has opened in the West > End only a few days ago, but Broadway producers are > already vying to have the actor bring it to New York > City." > > ""As of Thursday morning, there were 11 offers from > different producers - the great and the good, and people > I've never heard of," said Equus producer David Pugh." > > ""Both Daniel and Richard are up for it and so is Thea > (Sharrock), our director. It's just a matter of sorting > out which producer we'll go with to Broadway," he added." > > Note the last part, Dan and Richard are UP FOR IT, but > Dan can't do it until his HP filming schedule is clear. > > Still about the only way I could make it to see the > show is if I win the Lottery. I'm counting on that > Lottery for a lot it seems. Geoff: Hmm. I'm wondering, Steve, if you're being naughty with the capitalisation. If you made a remark like that to a number of the young guys in my church, in view of the context, they'd either be bright red or rolling on the floor laughing. I think I will join thelatter group... :-) Seriously though, the UK press has been suggesting next spring or summer after the HBP prinicipal filming is over. From kempermentor at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 21:39:19 2007 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:39:19 -0000 Subject: More (or less ) Dan on Broadway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Steve wrote: > > > > ... > > > > Note the last part, Dan and Richard are UP FOR IT, but > > Dan can't do it until his HP filming schedule is clear. > > > > Still about the only way I could make it to see the > > show is if I win the Lottery. I'm counting on that > > Lottery for a lot it seems. > > Geoff: > Hmm. I'm wondering, Steve, if you're being naughty > with the capitalisation. If you made a remark like that to > a number of the young guys in my church, in view of the > context, they'd either be bright red or rolling on the floor > laughing. I think I will join thelatter group... :-) > > Seriously though, the UK press has been suggesting next > spring or summer after the HBP prinicipal filming is over. > Kemper now: That's funny you mention the naughtiness. I, too, was wondering about with Steve's response to Bohcoo. It's cut and pasted below: > Bohcoo wrote: > > I appreciate his courtesy warning to us about Daniel's > nudity in the link he provided. > > I looked. :) > bboyminn responded: ..., but it makes me wonder what kind of porn collection the faker has, to have had a photo on hand that would fit with Dan's photo. Do you know what the odds are? Very long I think. Kemper now: 'Very long'... supple, I mean subtle, innuendo? Clever, Steve. ;) Kemper From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 00:26:27 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:26:27 -0000 Subject: More (or less ) Dan on Broadway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Geoff Bannister" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > > It seems that David Pugh the Producer of Equus has > > had offers from 11 Broadway Producers to bring Equus > > to New York. > > > > ... > > > > ""As of Thursday morning, there were 11 offers from > > different producers - ...," said Equus producer David > > Pugh." > > > > ""Both Daniel and Richard are up for it ..." > > > > Note the last part, Dan and Richard are UP FOR IT, > > .... > > > > ... > > Geoff: > Hmm. I'm wondering, Steve, if you're being naughty > with the capitalisation. If you made a remark like that > to a number of the young guys in my church, in view of > the context, they'd either be bright red or rolling on > the floor laughing. I think I will join the latter group > ... :-) > > Seriously though, the UK press has been suggesting next > spring or summer after the HBP prinicipal filming is over. > bboyminn: I can only assume you are referring to 'UP FOR IT', which you will notice that David Pugh actually said himself. Would it help if I said, I thought they could pull it off? Seriously though, we are at a severe disadvantage in our ability to express ourselves in pure text. I understand why they have Italics, Bold, and Underline turned off, but that still doesn't help when you want to highlight an expression. Also, when I am dropping innuendo, I am usually much LESS subtle than that. As to Kemper comment about the photo collection of the 'photo faker', and the /long/ odds of having the appropriate photo on hand, there might have been a slight subconscious innuendo involved there. But again, how extensive a collection of photos must this person have, to have had that exact match lower body readily available? 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URL: From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Sun Mar 4 20:43:35 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:43:35 -0000 Subject: More (or less ) Dan on Broadway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: Steve: > > > It seems that David Pugh the Producer of Equus has > > > had offers from 11 Broadway Producers to bring Equus > > > to New York. > > > ""As of Thursday morning, there were 11 offers from > > > different producers - ...," said Equus producer David > > > Pugh." > > > > > > ""Both Daniel and Richard are up for it ..." > > > > > > Note the last part, Dan and Richard are UP FOR IT, Geoff: > > Hmm. I'm wondering, Steve, if you're being naughty > > with the capitalisation. bboyminn: > I can only assume you are referring to 'UP FOR IT', which > you will notice that David Pugh actually said himself. > Would it help if I said, I thought they could pull it off? > Seriously though, we are at a severe disadvantage in our > ability to express ourselves in pure text. I understand > why they have Italics, Bold, and Underline turned off, > but that still doesn't help when you want to highlight > an expression. Geoff: (slight snipping applied along the way) Do remember that we are being rather light-hearted here. You are having your leg pulled - nothing else. :-) From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 19:53:19 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:53:19 -0000 Subject: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy Message-ID: I'm generally prone to worry, even about things that I have no control over and that don't affect me. I worry about the various actors in the HP movies. For example, Devon Murray/Seamus; he was working on an acting career before he got the Harry Potter part. Notably, he was in "Angela's Ashes" as well as "This is my Father" and "Yesterday's Children". But what is he doing now to make sure his career will have some staying power? Naturally, Dan Radcliffe's successful performance in 'Equus' has gotten me thinking about this. Next, Tom Felton; he has certainly established himself as an actor, and I would say a talented one. He had a major role in the big budget Hollywood movie 'Anna and the King' in which he played Jodie Foster's (Anna Leonowens) son. They don't just give those roles away. I think he is a brilliant actor with the potential for a fine career. Yet was is he doing to ensure that career? I'm aware that Tom is more into fishing than acting, but acting can buy him the time to freely spend fishing. Actors generally get a huge pile of money for a short period of intense work. Then they are free to wander until the next project comes along. I think Tom has potential for TV, Movies, and Stage acting. My point is, he could be doing more to insure himself, which is exactly what I see Dan doing, insuring his future. He could be using his 'celebrity' to endorse Fishing tours around the world. That would give him all the free fishing he could hope for, and provide a nice income. He could use his 'celebrity' to endorse fishing products; rods, reels, lures, boats, etc, and make a nice income off of that, as well as making a name for himself in fishing circles. Now to the central character and subject of this post - Rupert Grint. Perhaps Rupert is just having a fun time and enjoying the moment; enjoying being young, rich (moderately so) and famous. Nothing wrong with that, but the potential is very high for him to be one of those child actors who never makes it into the realm of adult actors. I've even heard comments that after the Potter Series is over he will probable end up flipping burgers some where. That would certainly be a shame. Yet, it is not going to work for him to be a mirror of Dan; Dan does the stage, so Rupert does the stage. Dan makes a war movie, so Rupert makes a war movie. That simply isn't going to work. He needs to find his own path in life, and it is clear from his earlier comments that he wants that path to be in the field of acting. So why don't we see Rupert doing more to keep himself in the public mind? To support various charities more openly. To try new projects, etc.... Now I think Rupert did well in 'Driving Lessons', but just as with the Harry Potter movies, his performance was limited by the material he was given to work with and the direction he was given. An actor can never be better than his material. None the less, I think it was a good showcase for him. So, what should Rupert do to showcase himself and his talent, that will also not distract from his role in the up-coming moives? All the actors that work with him say he is immensely funny with near perfect comic timing. So, why not try a hand at comedy. There must be a few stages in Britain that have Open-Mic Comedy Nights. If Rupert got an act together he could start with open mic nights, and after he honed his material, if the response was positive, he could move on to paid jobs. Perhaps even appearing on TV Variety or talk shows. I have to wonder about the people handling Rupert, his management team; agent, publicist, etc.... They don't seem to be doing much for him. On one hand, it could be the Rupert is just enjoying being a kid. Nothing wrong with that, but already having a public profile that is greatly colored by Harry Potter, it is important to make a distinction between Ron and Rupert. I really don't think the HP movies are a showcase for anyone's talent; they are just cut too thin. So, if any of these actors has a hope of a future as an adult actor, each in their own unique way, they are going to have to create an identity that is separate from Harry Potter. It is that alternate identity that is going to carry them into the future. That is exactly what I see Dan wisely and successfully doing. So - Rupert Grint - Stand-up Comedian ... what say you all? Just ranting and raving. Steve/bboyminn From n2fgc at arrl.net Mon Mar 5 21:28:11 2007 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:28:11 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000701c75f6d$2ee768a0$66a4a8c0@rosie> Interesting rant, but the one item that needs consideration is this: How do the families of these kids feel about them going full-time into acting? Not all parents approve of that choice of career, or would rather their kid wait until he/she is an adult, etc. Those parents who push their kids into things like acting, athletics, pageants, etc., often end up with stressed-out family lives and, sometimes, a lot of resentment and rebellion from the kids. Something else to consider as you're trying to solve the problems of life, the universe, and everything. Cheers, Lee :-) From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 22:26:57 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:26:57 -0000 Subject: IMDb poll--summer blockbuster Message-ID: If anyone is interested, today's IMDb poll is about which summer blockbuster you're most looking forward to. Surprisingly, OoP is currently behind "Spider-Man 3" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End." If you want to vote for OoP (certainly the *only* summer blockbuster I'm looking forward to) the link is http://www.imdb.com/poll/ As I always note with these polls, you have to register but it's painless and free. Besides, you could spend days exploring the IMDb. Carol, really hoping that the OoP film depiction of Snape isn't colored by the writer's or director's preconceptions about Snape as a supposed villain in HBP From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 23:16:22 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:16:22 -0000 Subject: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy In-Reply-To: <000701c75f6d$2ee768a0$66a4a8c0@rosie> Message-ID: --- "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" > wrote: > > Interesting rant, but the one item that needs > consideration is this: How do the families of these > kids feel about them going full-time into acting? > Not all parents approve of that choice of career, or > would rather their kid wait until he/she is an adult, > etc. > > Those parents who push their kids into things like > acting, athletics, pageants, etc., often end up with > stressed-out family lives and, sometimes, a lot of > resentment and rebellion from the kids. > > Something else to consider as you're trying to solve > the problems of life, the universe, and everything. > > > Cheers, > > Lee :-) > bboyminn: Here is the thing, these kids are all approaching or over age 18, so they are adults able to make their own decisions. Dan will be 18 this year, Ron is older than Dan, and Tom is older than both of them. Certainly the parents opinions matter, but it seems as if these kids have already chosen and have been acting for some time. Dan started at age 9 in 'David Copperfield'. Tom started in commercials when he was age 8. Now if Tom wants to go off and study Fisheries Management, more power too him. But, as I said, he could secure his life as a professional fisherman, more easily with the money and security of acting, assuming he does well, and he certainly seems to have the potential. Indications are that Rupert wants to continue in the acting field, so he is not being pushed by his parents, and if he wants to go off and become a bank manager, then again, more power too him. But if he wants to continue in performing, then he has to work at it. Everyday a new crop of starry eyed kids steps forward trying to make it in show biz. Rupert has a head start, but he can't run on his Harry Potter reputation forwever. I guess my main complaint is that the Harry Potter movies are not really a showcase for anyone's talent. They need deeper more diverse roles, if they plan to be a success at it. The reason I think Stand-up Comedy would be good for Rupert is because, he does well on the screen, but not so well in person. He does't interview well. Partly, I believe, because he doesn't realize that an interview is a performance. He comes on as the shy quiet country boy Rupert Grint, when he should enter the interview as Rupert-the Entertainer. People don't realize that most, or at least many, comedians are very shy and soft spoken. Their time on the stage is a time to assume an alter ego. Take Eddie Murphy. Believe it or not, this loud obnoxious overbearing comedian is very shy and reserved in his personal life. I think this is true of a lot of performers. Being shy in real life, they are able to assume a role of a more outgoing person on stage. Ron needs that if he is to succeed. So, I think Rupert, even if he only approaches comedy as a lark, will improve his stage presence and confidence tremendously. My central point is the Rupert needs to find a nitch in the entertainment industry that helps define him as a performer. Dan now has great credibility as a Stage Actor, after Harry Potter, if nothing else, he can get parts in stage plays on the West End and earn a reasonable living, and keep a reasonably postive public profile. Rupert can't follow Dan, he has to make his own way. Though I think some stage acting workshops or small productions would go a long way toward improving him as an actor. I think Stand-up Comedy, even if Rupert doesn't see it as a career, would give in a postive public profile and overcome his shy nature on stage. It was just a thought that struck me. Steve/bboyminn From annemehr at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 23:53:54 2007 From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:53:54 -0000 Subject: IMDb poll--summer blockbuster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > > If anyone is interested, today's IMDb poll is about which summer > blockbuster you're most looking forward to. Surprisingly, OoP is > currently behind "Spider-Man 3" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: At > World's End." Yo ho! It's Pirates for me, no question. But I can't be bothered to register to vote... Just think - Johnny Depp *and* Geoffrey Rush. And then maybe I'll put in a DVD of Spiderman 2, and just watch the scenes with Alfred Molina in them. Well, okay. OoP also. Annemehr From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Mar 6 19:29:53 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:29:53 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? In-Reply-To: <779133.1580.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <779133.1580.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <034a01c76025$d56ebfd0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Ohhh that was fun!! Michelle _____ From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MJ Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:38 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help me out? for starters . . . 1. What was the name of the three-headed dog in PS/SS? 2. What's the name of Hagrid's dog? 3. What was the name of Hagrid's dragon? 4. How many good jumps does a Chocolate Frog have in it? 5. What kind of broom does Harry ride now? 6. What kind of animal did "Moony" turn into? 7. What do wizards use to travel by fireplace? 8. What animal does McGonagal turn into? 9. What are the names of Harry's parents? 10. What is the name of Harry's cousin? Sheryll Townsend com> wrote: I've just received the go-ahead from our District Manager to hold a Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster branch. We're going to play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs and have a trivia contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at making up hard questions but I really need some easy/intermediate questions for kids. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are lots of kids out there who'll get even the hard ones right, but I need something for the younger kids. With the busy schedule I've had lately, I figured I was best off asking the experts for help - that's all of you! Probably a much better idea than me trying to patch it all together at the last minute, which is likely what would happen if left to my own devices. If anyone has ideas for me, you can email me at s_ings at yahoo dot com. Thanks so much for helping me out! Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as I'm the only one who owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) ------------------------------- http://www.myspace. com/maritajan --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mrnilrem at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 19:28:17 2007 From: mrnilrem at yahoo.com (mrnilrem) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:28:17 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: Newbie here, Hello to everyone in advance, I hope this is the right Group.. My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough question since it will be a large void to fill. R.J.S From heidi8 at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 20:04:59 2007 From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:04:59 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1173297902.2EF0E354@fd8.dngr.org> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 3:01 pm, mrnilrem wrote: > > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > question since it will be a large void to fill. Welcome to HPfGU! Well, the sequel to Katherine Neville's The Eight and the fourth Temeraire book from Naomi Novik are both out this fall, so definitely those. And I'm sure there will be years of Harry Potter fanfic so I'm going to stay connected with the Potterverse that way, too! Heidi ( PS - full disclosure - I'm an admin on the fanfic site FictionAlley at http://www.fictionalley.org) From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 20:14:46 2007 From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:14:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: <721021.26162.qm@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> R.J.S: > Newbie here, > > Hello to everyone in advance, I hope this is the right Group.. Yup, you're at the right place. Welcome - here, have a butterbeer. > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > question since it will be a large void to fill. Personally speaking, I've been working my way through the works of two particular authors right now. Very slow progress but I'm working on reading Lois McMaster Bujold and Orson Scott Card. Are you asking because you are looking for recommendations? For yourself or for others? If you are looking for recommendations, we could use more details. Just what about HP really keeps your attention? For example, I would hesitate to recommend "Shards of Honor" by Bujold to the youngest segments of the HP fandom - how would you explain Vorrutyer to a 10-year old?! But such youngsters may really enjoy Eva Ibbotson's works. If you like HP for the characterizations and the element of magic, you might really like Card's Tales of Alvin Maker series (I found the first 3 more absorbing than the latter 3 - anyone else?). But if it's the Anglophile in you that loves HP, Alvin's adventures in alternative-history-of-American-frontier won't do. See? Petra a n :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From maritajan at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 20:18:42 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:18:42 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: <1173297902.2EF0E354@fd8.dngr.org> Message-ID: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 3:01 pm, mrnilrem wrote: > > > > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > > question since it will be a large void to fill. > I don't know about anyone else, but I'll be *re-reading* the HP books trying to figure out how I could have missed [whatever JKR puts into DH] that was so obviously obvious! After the fact, of course. MJ From mwood005 at houston.rr.com Wed Mar 7 21:56:42 2007 From: mwood005 at houston.rr.com (melody_wood14) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:56:42 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "MJ" wrote: > > > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 3:01 pm, mrnilrem wrote: > > > > > > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > > > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > > > question since it will be a large void to fill. > > > > >My kids and I have been reading a series of books called Pendragon by D.J. MacHale. The web sight about the book is www.thependragonadventure.com . Melody From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 01:44:24 2007 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:44:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070308014424.99226.qmail@web63413.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > > > > My question is a simple one, what if anything > are you planning on > > > > reading after the end of the Harry Potter > series? This is a tough > > > > question since it will be a large void to > fill. > > > > > Melody: > > > >My kids and I have been reading a series of books > called Pendragon by > D.J. MacHale. The web sight about the book is > www.thependragonadventure.com . Sheryll: My daughter bought the first book of the Pendragon series a while back and loaned it to me. Now we're both hooked! Just waiting for The Quillian Games to come out in paperback. :) Sheryll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kempermentor at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 01:45:50 2007 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:45:50 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Petra wrote: > ... > If you like HP for the characterizations and the element of magic, you > might really like Card's Tales of Alvin Maker series (I found the first 3 > more absorbing than the latter 3 - anyone else?). Kemper now: I agree. (a wave to the Mod) I couldn't get into the forth one and so never finished the series. But I quite enjoyed the first three. Maybe I'll wikipedia it after work and get the spoilers. > > > > Melody wrote: > >My kids and I have been reading a series of books called Pendragon by > D.J. MacHale. The web sight about the book is > www.thependragonadventure.com . Kemper now: I've read three of the Pendragon books. I only like the Pendragon story, I find the kids back on Second Earth lacking an intrigueing storyline. I like Timothy Zahn's Dragonback series... as far as youth sci/fi goes. He also writes some good Star Wars stories. For adult fantasy/horror nothing beats Nancy A Collins trade paperback, Midnight Blue . But I will be reading anything by Jonathan Stroud, Joss Whedon, Jeof Loeb... perhaps some Brian Michael Bendis. Kemper From mwood005 at houston.rr.com Thu Mar 8 01:55:58 2007 From: mwood005 at houston.rr.com (melody_wood14) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:55:58 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: <20070308014424.99226.qmail@web63413.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > > Melody The next Pendragon book the Pilgrims of Rayne comes out on May 8th > > > > Melody: > > > > > >My kids and I have been reading a series of books > > called Pendragon by > > D.J. MacHale. The web sight about the book is > > www.thependragonadventure.com . > > Sheryll: > > My daughter bought the first book of the Pendragon > series a while back and loaned it to me. Now we're > both hooked! Just waiting for The Quillian Games to > come out in paperback. :) > > Sheryll > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Thu Mar 8 09:25:31 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:25:31 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/07 2:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, bboyminn at yahoo.com writes: > > > > I'm generally prone to worry, even about things that I > have no control over and that don't affect me. I worry > about the various actors in the HP movies. > > For example, Devon Murray/Seamus; he was working on an > acting career before he got the Harry Potter part. > Notably, he was in "Angela's Ashes" as well as "This is > my Father" and "Yesterday's Children". But what is he > doing now to make sure his career will have some staying > power? Sandy: Of all the child actors in the movies I consider Devon to be the least talented, especially in the earlier films. I had no idea he had acted previously. I have always questioned his being cast in the movies. > > > Next, Tom Felton; he has certainly established himself as > an actor, and I would say a talented one. He had a major > role in the big budget Hollywood movie 'Anna and the > King' in which he played Jodie Foster's (Anna Leonowens) > son. They don't just give those roles away. I think he > is a brilliant actor with the potential for a fine > career. Yet was is he doing to ensure that career? > > > > Sandy: Seems to me that I remember an interview with Tom where he stated he wasn't sure if he wanted to pursue an acting career. > > Now to the central character and subject of this > post - Rupert Grint. Perhaps Rupert is just having > a fun time and enjoying the moment; enjoying being > young, rich (moderately so) and famous. Nothing > wrong with that, but the potential is very high > for him to be one of those child actors who never > makes it into the realm of adult actors. I've even > heard comments that after the Potter Series is over > he will probable end up flipping burgers some where. > That would certainly be a shame. > > Sandy, liberally snipping the rest of Steve's post. Are you kidding with this?! Flipping burgers? These kids have made more money already than you and I will make together our entire lives. I often wonder how the pay is handled for the three main actors. Dan made 8 million for GOF. Did Rupert and Emma also make that much? I doubt it, but I am sure the word million played into their contracts also, it's just a question of how many, and there are still two more movies to go. Even Sean Biggerstaff alluded to how much money he made from the Potter films, and he was only in two of them playing a relatively minor role. By the time the series is over these kids will never have to work again. That is one of the reasons I don't understand Daniel's drive. As far as Rupert goes, I have never heard him say he wants to pursue an acting career, although I haven't heard him say he doesn't either. You are obviously a big Rupert fan and would like to see him continue his acting. There is nothing wrong with that. But does he really want to? But whether or not he does, you certainly don't need to worry about him flipping burgers somewhere. He has already made far too much money to have to worry about that. Sandy > > Just ranting and raving. > > Steve/bboyminn > > > > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Thu Mar 8 09:38:40 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:38:40 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/07 6:16:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, bboyminn at yahoo.com writes: > Dan now has great credibility as a Stage > Actor, after Harry Potter, if nothing else, he can get > parts in stage plays on the West End and earn a > reasonable living, and keep a reasonably postive > public profile. Sandy: Picking my chin up off the floor. Dan earn a reasonable living!! Haven't you heard that he is the second richest minor in England, second only to Prince Harry? He's a multi-millionaire many times over for Pete's sake! I believe there is such a thing as being too rich and Dan is already too rich. Dan WANTS to act but he does not need to earn a living. Dan is now the English equivalent of a Kennedy. His heirs will still be filthy rich three generations from now. Sheesh. Sandy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drednort at alphalink.com.au Thu Mar 8 10:05:35 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:05:35 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45F07A9F.4445.232530A@drednort.alphalink.com.au> On 8 Mar 2007 at 4:38, OctobersChild48 at aol.com wrote: > Sandy: > > Picking my chin up off the floor. Dan earn a reasonable living!! > Haven't you > heard that he is the second richest minor in England, second only to > Prince > Harry? Actually he's the richest minor - Prince Harry hasn't been a minor for a while now. Daniel Radcliffe was conservatively estimated to be worth approximately ?14 million last year. That should at least double by the time he completes the final Harry Potter film. You're certainly right that he is unlikely to have to ever worry about earning a living again. Hopefully he'll use that freedom to do something fulfilling for himself - and if that's acting, at least he'll never feel he has to take a role to eat. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From taguem at jmsearch.com Thu Mar 8 14:24:00 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:24:00 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008701c7618d$6ee36db0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Janet Evonovich numbers series is on my bookshelf. Michelle _____ From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mrnilrem Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:28 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What are you planning to read after HP Newbie here, Hello to everyone in advance, I hope this is the right Group.. My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough question since it will be a large void to fill. R.J.S [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mrnilrem at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 14:22:57 2007 From: mrnilrem at yahoo.com (mrnilrem) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:22:57 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after Harry Potter part II Message-ID: Hello all again, thanks for the responses to my question. Now the second part, My upcoming novel "The Chronicles of Wizard World will soon be released. I think it would be a great fill so to speak once the Potter series is completed. What I would like to do is pick someone from my guest book to receive a free signed copy and then later they can email me their opinion of the story and I will post their remarks on my website. Stop by when you have some time and take a look. www.randyjscott.com Author. THe Chronicles of Wizard World Book I Charlie Watson and the Golundrus Cube. From zanelupin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 15:35:54 2007 From: zanelupin at yahoo.com (KathyK) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:35:54 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mrnilrem" wrote: > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > question since it will be a large void to fill. KathyK: There is a new Jasper Fforde book coming out in July. It will probably prompt me to reread the whole Thursday Next series once DH is out of my system. And then probably the Nursery Crime ones as well. From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 19:43:36 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:43:36 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar Message-ID: Border's Books is providing an opportunity for fans to help create a Harry Potter calendar by selecting their favorite images from the HP films. I voted for the two that feature Snape, naturally. You can choose up to five. Here's the link: http://surv.cheetahmail.com/s Carol, wondering if she's the only one who's picked up a "Trust Snape" sticker from Border's From bboyminn at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 19:45:03 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:45:03 -0000 Subject: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- OctobersChild48 at ... wrote: > > In a message dated 3/5/07 6:16:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bboyminn at ... writes: > > > > Dan now has great credibility as a Stage Actor, > > after Harry Potter, if nothing else, he can get > > parts in stage plays on the West End and earn a > > reasonable living, and keep a reasonably postive > > public profile. > > Sandy: > > Picking my chin up off the floor. Dan earn a reasonable > living!! Haven't you heard that he is the second richest > minor in England, second only to Prince Harry? He's a > multi-millionaire many times over for Pete's sake! I > believe there is such a thing as being too rich and Dan > is already too rich. Dan WANTS to act but he does not > need to earn a living. Dan is now the English equivalent > of a Kennedy. His heirs will still be filthy rich three > generations from now. Sheesh. > > Sandy bboyminn: You are right, but you are also missing the point. In fact, the 'reasonable living' comment was related to the fact that Dan has substantial wealth. He is like 'James', he doesn't need a well paid job, but he DOES need something to do with his life. What is he suppose to do, spend all day at the Bank counting his money? At this time let me quote ( but I'm not sure whom I am quoting) - "I once met a man who was so poor he could have only money?" Living a wealthy life and living a 'rich' life are very different things. I suspect Dan wants to live a 'rich' life independant of how much money he has. 'Richness' comes with satisfaction and accomplishment, and from having the right priorities. A man who has a happy healthy family is a rich man even if he is poor. Dan could at the very least, now that he has established his credibility on the stage, have a long, happy, healthy, rewarding career as a secondary player on the stage (remember this is 'at least', not ideally). No matter how rich you may be, you don't work for free. You still want to be fairly compensated for your efforts. So, certainly Dan would want a reasonable income for his efforts. As to Dan's fortune, that is another thing that irks me. As an example, if you win a 100 million in the lottery, you will be lucky to walk away with 33 million. That TAX MAN want his share, and he always gets that and more. Dan may gross ?6 million per film, but what does he NET? His estimated /gross/ worth by the end of the last film will be something in the neighborhood of US$40 million. That means his net, depending on the taxes in the UK, will be something like US$13 million. That's not peanuts, but it's not hard to burn through that much money in a life time. Being rich, oddly as it sounds, is expensive. Real Estate in London is through the roof. Recently some one posted that a janitors closet in severe need of repairs was being offerred for US$325,000 (?170,000). It was about 11 ft x 7 ft, and was being sold as a studio living space. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6287375.stm Quoting the article - "...the average asking price for a house in Kensington & Chelsea in January was ?1,145,791. (US$2.2 million)." Dan's parents live in the ajoining neighborhood, Fulham, just south of Kensington and west of Chelsea. $13 million sounds like a lot until you blow $2 million on a house. A basic two bedroom 850 sq. ft. apartment in Fulham/Battersea runs about $500,000 to $1,000,000. So, yes Dan is comfortable, and if he wants to live off just his current earnings, he is going to have to live VERY conservatively. But Dan doesn't strike me as someone to spend the rest of his life in quiet obscurity sipping coffee, quaffing ale, and reading the newspaper. As to Rupert, he has definitly said on more than onse occassion that he hopes to pursue a career in acting. Also, while I'm sure Rupert and Emma are making a substantial living, perhaps even millions, there income doesn't approach that of Dan's. If Dan has a clear $13 million, than Rupert probably has a clear $3 million to $5 million. Yes, that's nice, but it certainly won't last a lifetime, especially when you are young, an adult, and sitting on a huge pile of cash. It goes pretty quickly if you are not careful. As I think I pointed out in a previous post, most, or many, Lottery winners are not set for life, they are bankrupt within 5 years. If you can not find wealth and richness in the other aspects of your life, having money /is/ a form of poverty. A wise person invest his money. Real Estate being a form of investment, and a very good one if you pay cash for it. If you earn a paltry 5%, you still make US50,000 for every million you have. Ten million nets you $500,000 per year. Most likely, you can do better than a 5% return. The point is, a wise person lives coservatively no matter how much money they have. Tom Felton has made it clear that his first love is fishing, and he could probably make a living as a professional fisherman, but doing that would be a lot easier if he had money from acting to cushion his life. It would be a lot easier, if he had the cash from acting to invest in building his life in fishing. Further, while Tom is well off from his HP earnings, I doubt they are anywhere near that of Rupert and certainly not even remotely close to Dan's. (I estimate low 6 figures per movie.) So, his choices are hundreds of thousands of dollars for a few months work THEN fishing, or spending his money very quickly doing nothing but fishing. He can do what he wants, but acting, if you can establish yourself, is a source of fast easy money. He certainly can do it, so why not? Just passing it along. Steve/bboyminn From willsonkmom at msn.com Thu Mar 8 20:26:55 2007 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:55 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: wrote: I voted for the two that feature Snape, naturally. You can > choose up to five. Potioncat(KathyW): There's two? Darn my computer, I only saw one. I haven't voted yet. I'll have to go back and look. > Carol, wondering if she's the only one who's picked up a "Trust Snape" > sticker from Border's Nope, got mine too! I'm going to put it on my cube wall at work. Kathy From bboyminn at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 21:26:13 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:26:13 -0000 Subject: Now Dan ( Was: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > --- OctobersChild48@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/5/07 6:16:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > bboyminn@ writes: > > > > > > > Dan now has great credibility as a Stage Actor, > > > after Harry Potter, if nothing else, he can get > > > parts in stage plays on the West End and earn a > > > reasonable living, and keep a reasonably postive > > > public profile. > > > > Sandy: > > > > Picking my chin up off the floor. Dan earn a > > reasonable living!! Haven't you heard that he is the > > second richest minor in England, ... > > bboyminn: > > You are right, but you are also missing the point. In > fact, the 'reasonable living' comment was related to > the fact that Dan has substantial wealth. He is like > 'James', he doesn't need a well paid job, but he DOES > need something to do with his life. What is he suppose > to do, spend all day at the Bank counting his money? > ... bboyminn: Found an interesting article that is somewhat related to what we are discussing. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117939202.html?categoryid=25&cs=1&query=Daniel+Radcliffe Jack Wild, the actor appeared who in the movie musical "Oliver!" died March 1 in England after a battle with mouth cancer. He was 53. Discovered while playing soccer with Phil Collins by Collins' mother, a talent agent, he was a millionaire by 18 and an alcoholic by 21. ...admitted that he spent much of his adult life "in an alcoholic haze" until giving up drinking in 1989. Regretting how his fast rise to stardom contributed to his addictive tendencies, he worked with the former child actors' group A Minor Consideration, and wrote an open letter to "Harry Potter" star Daniel Radcliffe cautioning against the risks of young stardom. - - - - end - - - - Like I said, most lottery winners are bankrupt in five years. Being rich and young is no guarantee of a lifetime of success. You need some method of on-going achievement and satisfiying accomplishment. The wealth of the Harry Potter kids has just as much of a chance of dooming them as it does of being their salvation. Actually, the chances for doom are probably greater. So, I wish them well, and hope they find ways to find satisfaction and accomplishment in their lives. One way I think Rupert could improve his chances is Stand-up Comedy even if it is only a diversion to improve his skills in front of a crowd. Just passing it along. Steve/bboyminn From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 23:15:06 2007 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:15:06 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" wrote: > > wrote: > I voted for the two that feature Snape, naturally. You can > > choose up to five. > > Potioncat(KathyW): > There's two? Darn my computer, I only saw one. I haven't voted yet. > I'll have to go back and look. > > > > Carol, wondering if she's the only one who's picked up a "Trust Snape" > > sticker from Border's > > > Nope, got mine too! I'm going to put it on my cube wall at work. > > Kathy > Alla: YAYAYAY. Potioncat you are back. YAY ( sorry too excited :)) Too funny about stickers though, I do not need to tell you which one I picked up, heee. But my coworker who cannot stand Snape and thinks he needs to die as much as I do, decided to pick up *Trust Snape** one. The guy at the information desk started half an hour conversation with her trying to convince her not to trust Snape, LOL. From cdayr at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 23:30:30 2007 From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:30:30 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" wrote: > > > > Carol, wondering if she's the only one who's picked up a "Trust > Snape" > > > sticker from Border's > > > > > > Nope, got mine too! I'm going to put it on my cube wall at work. > > > > Kathy > > > Alla: > > YAYAYAY. Potioncat you are back. YAY ( sorry too excited :)) > > Too funny about stickers though, I do not need to tell you which one > I picked up, heee. But my coworker who cannot stand Snape and thinks > he needs to die as much as I do, decided to pick up *Trust Snape** > one. The guy at the information desk started half an hour > conversation with her trying to convince her not to trust Snape, LOL. > Ha! Is your co-worker trying to pick a fight with you? I went down to Borders to get the sticker too, but I didn't like the colors (I'm picky). But I liked the idea so much! SO, being insane, I ran to the craft store and made it my excuse to buy my own button maker (they are awesome, and great for my classroom) to make my own "Trust Snape" pin in appropriate black. Celia so glad there is a group of people in the world to whom she can admit this without shame From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 8 23:58:20 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:58:20 -0000 Subject: Now Dan ( Was: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > Found an interesting article that is somewhat related to > what we are discussing. > > http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117939202.html? categoryid=25&cs=1&query=Daniel+Radcliffe > > Jack Wild, the actor appeared who in the movie musical > "Oliver!" died March 1 in England after a battle with > mouth cancer. He was 53. > > Discovered while playing soccer with Phil Collins by > Collins' mother, a talent agent, he was a millionaire by > 18 and an alcoholic by 21. > > ...admitted that he spent much of his adult life "in an > alcoholic haze" until giving up drinking in 1989. > > Regretting how his fast rise to stardom contributed to > his addictive tendencies, he worked with the former > child actors' group A Minor Consideration, and wrote an > open letter to "Harry Potter" star Daniel Radcliffe > cautioning against the risks of young stardom. > > - - - - end - - - - I think that Daniel has his head screwed on right and will avoid the pitfalls that some child stars have run into. I have seen that he mentioned Jack Wild in one of his interviews. I wonder if I might be boring and re-quote some information which I originally wrote in message 31649..... I have been gathering together many and varied newspaper reports from the UK press about Equus ever since the promotional photos appeared on 30/01/07. Daniel comes across as a remarkably mature, modest (and sane!) young man considering the pressures on him. As an example, may I direct you to the following link which is an article published in the Observer magazine on 11/02/07. The Observer is the Sunday paper published by the Guardian, one of our very respected broadsheet newspapers. It's one of the best articles I've read. I'm not sure the original link still works (and it may be for Mac only) but the following should work: Go to http://observer.guardian.co.uk When you get the home page, go to the search box near the top on the left-hand side and type in "dirty harry". The article you want is the second one down, dated 11th February2007 and written by Craig McLean. Interesting that he lives with his parents in Fulham in south-west London; I lived within about 3 miles of this area for over 40 years. My only criticism of the article is the silly title which may put some readers off. From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 04:09:26 2007 From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:09:26 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar/ Snape snickers I mean stickers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Celia: > Ha! Is your co-worker trying to pick a fight with you? > I went down to Borders to get the sticker too, but I didn't like the > colors (I'm picky). But I liked the idea so much! SO, being insane, > I ran to the craft store and made it my excuse to buy my own button > maker (they are awesome, and great for my classroom) to make my > own "Trust Snape" pin in appropriate black. > > Celia > so glad there is a group of people in the world to whom she can > admit this without shame > Alla: Heee, no, she is actually a very good friend to have around - there are NOT that many people in RL I can talk about HP with, so she and my other coworker are welcome change to that. I mean, my whole office knows that I am HP fan, but I cannot maintain conversation about it with anybody else. So, what was I saying? Oh, yeah, she was just feeling nice at the moment when ordering the book, she did not want to pick the "bad man" sticker, that's all or at least it is what she says :) From bboyminn at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 05:39:26 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:39:26 -0000 Subject: Now Dan ( Was: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Geoff Bannister" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > Found an interesting article that is somewhat related > > to what we are discussing. > > > > http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117939202.html?categoryid=25&cs=1&query=Daniel+Radcliffe > > > > Jack Wild, the actor appeared who in the movie musical > > "Oliver!" died March 1 in England after a battle with > > mouth cancer. He was 53. > > > > ... and wrote an open letter to "Harry Potter" star > > Daniel Radcliffe cautioning against the risks of > > young stardom. > > > > - - - - end - - - - > Geoff: > > I think that Daniel has his head screwed on right and > will avoid the pitfalls that some child stars have run > into. I have seen that he mentioned Jack Wild in one > of his interviews. > bboyminn: Actually I agree, he does have his head on straight, but he does live in a world of quicksand. When you are rich, who can you trust? How do you know if someone is scamming you, or if they really are friends and honest business associates? There are many child stars who trusted others to deal with problems for them, parents, agents, etc..., and they go royally screwed. Gary Coleman was virtually broke when his series ended. His parents squandered all his money. A few years later, he was working as a security guard at one of the minor studios. Some actors lose the boyish cuteness, and that is the end for them. Other like Macually Culkin, never lose there boyish cute and therefore can never be taken seriously as an adult actor. It's not just a matter of talent, sometimes fates just screws you. Wealth, while is solves some problems, is a curse; you've got it and everyone else wants a piece of it. I think Dan will do well, but it IS a jungle out there. For those who are interested, here is a link to the open letter that Jack Wild wrote to Dan - http://www.minorcon.org/harrypotter.html > Geoff continues: > ... > > I'm not sure the original link still works (and it may > be for Mac only) but the following should work: > > Go to http://observer.guardian.co.uk > > ... > > My only criticism of the article is the silly title > which may put some readers off. > bboyminn: Yes, that is a good article/interview with Dan. At least the interviewer didn't focus on the same old tired light- weight 'fan' questions that all the other interviews are asking. It brought out Dan, because rather that creating sound bites, the interview seemed genuinely interested. But, her is a link to another article in the Daily Mail about Dan. Though I should note, that I don't consider the Faily Mail the most reputable paper out there. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=433552&in_page_id=1770 Here are a few quotes that probably aren't true, but they still paint a dark and dangerous picture for Dan. "Certainly, as an attempt to rid himself of the yoke of his famous alter ego, taking the role of a deranged stable lad ...could not be more dramatic or - dare one say - cynical." Cynical? Really? "Apparently, the actor (and, more importantly, his highly ambitious parents) are now keen to distance him from the screen role which turned him into a multi-millionaire and household name at the age of 12. His parents - Alan, a literary agent, and Marcia, a casting director - are keen to establish Daniel as a leading man in the mould of Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt." So, his 'highly ambitious parents' are 'keen to establish Dan as a leading man'. They want to establish Dan as a leading man, but what does Dan want? I think this is overblown rhetoric and not very likely but it illustrates what could be happening out of our sight. "But his new look is an added source of discomfort for his film bosses, who last year banned him from working out during shooting of the fifth movie,..." Seems as if people are trying to mold Dan to their particular needs. Again, I don't give a lot of weight to this type of sensationalistic writing, but it does reflect some of the pressures Dan is under. "...those who surround the teenager, including his formidable agent Patricia MacNaughton, are making big plans for life after Harry Potter." So are they making those /big plans/ for him or with him, and for their own interests or his best interest??? "Meanwhile, his handlers are said to have put out the word in Tinseltown that he is looking for an 'edgy, dark role' for his first grown-up Hollywood outing." I'm sure Dan is involved in this, but are 'his handlers' molding him as they see fit, or is he molding himself with their help? "Radcliffe's ever-present parents are said to have overseen changes to the (Equus) script,..." I'm not sure I believe this, again sensationalistic writing, but it could be an indication of bad stage mother-itis. There are also indications in the article that Dan has had sufficient problems in the public schools he has gone to, that he has had to change schools several times. Again, probably overwrought journalism, but it is some indication that Dan's life is not all peaches and cream. There are also rumors of Dan dating an older woman. Though I think those have been refuted, indicating that they are just good friends. So...truth or media spin? Now let's make sure my point is clear here. I don't give much credibility to a paper like the Daily Mail, but it does hint that it is possible for there to be people around Dan and aspects of his personal life that could have negative long term consequences. I don't think Dan's parents are typical 'stage' parents, and I do think they have his best interest at heart. I also think they have enough experience in the business to help Dan manuver the pitfalls. But, I'm not there, I can't really say, maybe his parent are living vicariously though their son. Maybe they are so involved in his business and partners in the company Dan has formed because it's easier than working for a living. I don't know, I hope for the best, and at the moment think the best. But Dan wouldn't be the first person to trust the people closest to him, only to find out they were working in their own best interest and not his. Dan seems like a great guy, and I only wish him the very best, but like I said, he alternates between walking in a mine field and quicksand. A position I don't envy. Now, Dan is about to turn 18, and then he will legally be able to Drink alcohol. That, in an of itself, is a mine field because our public preception of alcohol is exactly the opposite of reality. In the movies and in the public mind, the guy who can drink the most and drink the longest is the hero, loved and admired by everyone. But the reality is those signs we publically love, are the very signs of someone who is likely to have life long problems with alcohol. The problem is, no one tells us this until we are broke, abandon, and laying in the gutter. I hope someone is wise enough to teach Dan how to gauge his alcohol use, and to make him aware of the signs of POTENTIAL for problems, long before those problems occur. Sorry to rant and rave so much, but I hate to see a good man fall; much better to see him fly. Steve/bboyminn - in a very ranting mood lately. From shelle18 at sccoast.net Fri Mar 9 14:25:31 2007 From: shelle18 at sccoast.net (Michelle) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:25:31 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: <008701c7618d$6ee36db0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Michelle A. Tague" wrote: > > Janet Evonovich numbers series is on my bookshelf. > > Michelle I LOVE Janet Evanovich!! Have you read "Plum Lovin'"? Michelle From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Fri Mar 9 15:52:24 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:52:24 -0000 Subject: Now Dan ( Was: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: Geoff: > > I think that Daniel has his head screwed on right and > > will avoid the pitfalls that some child stars have run > > into. I have seen that he mentioned Jack Wild in one > > of his interviews. bboyminn: > Actually I agree, he does have his head on straight, but > he does live in a world of quicksand. When you are rich, > who can you trust? How do you know if someone is scamming > you, or if they really are friends and honest business > associates? Geoff: I've snipped a large amount of our interchange for brevity. I think there is a difference between young stars here in the UK and across the pond. Jack Wild was in some ways a maverick. He lived up to his name even as a child actor. Over here, we often see US youngsters as being pampered and spoiled and he same doesn't seem to apply with us. Perhaps we tend to shelter them a little more. I've picked out some bits of the Observer article for members to look at - the link to the full article is on my last post - except that it's now the fourth article down.... But as Harry Potter knows only too well, fame and success attract dark forces, too. Dan understands that, now he's approaching adulthood, his celebrity means that the paparazzi - and citizen snappers armed with camera-phones - see him as fair game. Even if you're not the kind of star who goes partying without any pants on, you have to be careful. 'If [the paparazzi] got a picture of me at 15 doing vodka shots - which by the way I wasn't - then they'd be having a field day. I do have to watch myself going out and things.' At Reading, a mate asked Dan to hold his pint for a second; he had to decline. He's been in this game long enough to imagine the resulting headline: 'Harry Blotto'. Going to gigs, he says, is relatively risk-free, even if you have been a Vanity Fair cover star. 'People are there for the music. So most of the time they don't recognise you. I went to see Radiohead at Hammersmith and there was not a single person who wasn't transfixed by the stage.' Clubs are out of the question, but he's not into the music they play. ***** But why did he decide to do this arduous, psychologically challenging role? 'It is a really intense, sexual and in some ways violent play,' he concedes. 'And some of the audience may be shocked. People may even possibly think that I shouldn't be doing it because of the Potter fans. But I think that would be a mistake ... the person at the centre of all the attention should always be the one to lead where the attention goes,' he concludes firmly and with savvy flourish. And here I see the other side of Dan. This combination, of the gauche and the worldly-wise, is rather endearing. You'd like to have a beer with this chap, you think. When he's legal, of course. ***** But the summer brings an even more pivotal development in his young life: on 23 July, Dan turns 18 and he will get access to his considerable fortune. He's no flash Harry but reckons he might buy a Toyota Prius (not that he's passed his test, and not that he's 'a real environmentalist - I always forget to turn the lights off'). Or he may indulge his passion for modern art; he loves Jim Hodges's work, although his favourite artist is Jackson Pollock. He's also considering buying his own place, and he's looking forward to going to the pub and holding a pint without fearing the flash of a camera-phone. One thing he won't be doing, though, is having a party. He'd be useless at organising it, he says, 'I'm not really a party person. I don't really know what to do with myself when I'm standing there.' ***** Dan is remarkably mature and confident for someone not yet legally an adult. Even with his fine line in luvvie-speak he's the least bumptious, most charming teenage millionaire superstar you're ever likely to meet. 'Someone recently thought I was 19, despite my diminutive stature [he's 5ft 5in],' he says proudly. 'That was quite cool. I must just exude a halo of maturity at all times,' he declaims with a mock theatrical ponceyness. ***** 'And with the nudity thing... The thing is, if I did the first production of Equus in 30 years and didn't get my kit off in probably the most iconic scene in the play, people would be going, "He's not really committed to this!" It's got to be done, it's a great moment in the play. It makes me look much more vulnerable if I've got, you know, pants off rather than pants on!' And Dan Radcliffe snorts like a teenage boy. Albeit a super-rich, ultra-famous, highly talented, rather smart and decent one ... I think he'll do well. From xcpublishing at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 22:57:41 2007 From: xcpublishing at yahoo.com (Cheryl) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:57:41 -0000 Subject: From the Department of Shameless Self-Promotion Message-ID: After three months of obsession, I finally finished my fanfic version of Book Seven!!! No original characters. Except one wandering Ministry official that had a two-sentence mention. I tried to keep everyone staggeringly in character. Except Luna. She was too much fun. It's called Draco: Phoenix Rising, but it's still Harry's story at the heart of it. It has hundreds of reviews from those who have been following it chapter by chapter with not a single bad (or even mediocre) review, so if you can't wait for July... give it a try! http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/cheryl_dyson/ I have three shorter ones on there, too. Sigh, now I don't know what to do with myself. Cheryl From wuff at internode.on.net Sat Mar 10 02:37:11 2007 From: wuff at internode.on.net (Wolfie!) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:37:11 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Now Dan ( Was: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F219D7.20303@internode.on.net> > bboyminn: >> Actually I agree, he does have his head on straight, but >> he does live in a world of quicksand. When you are rich, >> who can you trust? How do you know if someone is scamming >> you, or if they really are friends and honest business >> associates? This has crossed my mind a few times, thankfully we have the internet now... and places like secondlife, where people can simply make friends and not reveal their true identity. I know that secondlife has famous people walking around, just wanting to find some ordinary friends to knock around with, it's a nice thing. So, Maybe I know some big stars, and not know that I do... but that's fine. A friend of mine knew someone as a kid and got a bit ruffled over it until his dad said "Son, they pull their pants on the same way we do each morning" which bought him back down to earth. We're all the same, we want some real friends who are kind and considerate, someone who will worry and send cards if we're in hospital... or even turn up if they're local. When you get sick, you really know who your friends are. Wolfie! -- Wolfie Rankin on Secondlife. ICQ - 3449014 Skype - Wolfie_storr * Eats a kid a day * From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 10 17:31:50 2007 From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:31:50 -0600 Subject: JKR's Ebay Battle... Message-ID: <000b01c76339$fd1424f0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Please show your support for JKR's lawsuit against E-bay reguarding their sale of fraudulent items such as E-books, and books with forged signatures. Here is a link to sign the petition. http://www.petitiononline.com/jkrebay1/petition.html The signing of the petition was requested by JK's lawyer to show support of her actions by the fans. You can read more also by visiting Mugglenet.com Have a great day! Chancie ******************************************************************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ******************************************************************************************************** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 23:11:33 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:11:33 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carol earlier: > I voted for the two that feature Snape, naturally. You can choose up to five. > > Potioncat(KathyW): > There's two? Darn my computer, I only saw one. I haven't voted yet. I'll have to go back and look. > Hi, Kathy. Welcome back! First, the old link doesn't work, so here's a new one: http://surv.cheetahmail.com/s?n=108&t=hBF74pIAQfEXsBA0mk$APjnwDpm&aid=276579820&o=1 The Snape photos are the Yule Ball photo (which I used as wallpaper at Christmastime) and the one of Boggart!Snape. (If the link doesn't work, you can access it from Leaky.) > > Carol, wondering if she's the only one who's picked up a "Trust Snape" sticker from Border's > Potioncat: > Nope, got mine too! I'm going to put it on my cube wall at work. > Yea, Potioncat! I'm using mine as a bookmark. Can't bring myself to unstick it from the backing. Carol, wondering if it's possible to get another one to save for posterity in pristine condition From sbejster at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 13:35:24 2007 From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: JKR's Ebay Battle... In-Reply-To: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20070311133524.91607.qmail@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the note, Chancie. I've signed it. Hopefully it will help her in some way. There were over 10,000 signatures when I signed mine. Sandra Dearborn, MI Chancie wrote: Please show your support for JKR's lawsuit against E-bay reguarding their sale of fraudulent items such as E-books, and books with forged signatures. Here is a link to sign the petition. http://www.petitiononline.com/jkrebay1/petition.html The signing of the petition was requested by JK's lawyer to show support of her actions by the fans. You can read more also by visiting Mugglenet.com Have a great day! Chancie http://www.picturetrail.com/sbejster http://www.picturetrail.com/delana196242 Gdzie jest pokoj, tam i, szczescie. "Where there is Peace, there is Happiness." --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From n2fgc at arrl.net Sun Mar 11 14:29:34 2007 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:29:34 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR's Ebay Battle... In-Reply-To: <20070311133524.91607.qmail@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> <20070311133524.91607.qmail@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c763e9$b0bf3800$66a4a8c0@rosie> [Sandra]: | Thanks for the note, Chancie. I've signed it. Hopefully it | will help her in some way. There were over 10,000 signatures | when I signed mine. [Lee]: Wow! I was 8640-something. Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Mar 11 15:40:22 2007 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 11 Mar 2007 15:40:22 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 3/11/2007, 11:00 am Message-ID: <1173627622.22.24881.m43@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday March 11, 2007 11:00 am - 12:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdlively at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 14:15:27 2007 From: sdlively at comcast.net (sdlively) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:15:27 -0500 Subject: JKR"s Ebay battle... In-Reply-To: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> References: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <004e01c763e7$b8efffc0$b54e3544@Delldesktop> Uhhhh why is she sueing ebay? It isn't ebay selling the items and they have almost no control over what is sold on there unless it is brought to their attention. She needs to go after the people who are selling on ebay, not ebay. And then it's buyer beware on the autographs on rather they are real or not. Unless you been it up and report it to ebay and get their id droped, in which case they just start another one anyway probably. I just love it when people go after the wrong people and raise the fees for the honest one. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Mar 11 17:40:19 2007 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 11 Mar 2007 17:40:19 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 3/11/2007, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1173634819.16.86303.m27@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday March 11, 2007 1:00 pm - 1:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 11 18:12:11 2007 From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:12:11 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR"s Ebay battle... References: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> <004e01c763e7$b8efffc0$b54e3544@Delldesktop> Message-ID: <001001c76408$ca0464b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Uhhhh why is she sueing ebay? It isn't ebay selling the items and they have almost no control over what is sold on there unless it is brought to their attention. She needs to go after the people who are selling on ebay, not ebay. And then it's buyer beware on the autographs on rather they are real or not. Unless you been it up and report it to ebay and get their id droped, in which case they just start another one anyway probably. I just love it when people go after the wrong people and raise the fees for the honest one. . ************************************************ Chancie: The problem is that JKR has notified E-bay of the problem, and they refuse to offer any warning to bidders that items may be fake and have also refused to ban sellers of fradulent items. Sorry that I am unable to atribute this quote, but since it was sent without the writer's signature....... Chancie ******************************** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 06:09:38 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:09:38 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter mentioned in poll of books you can't pick up Message-ID: This is my first post to this group consciously, although I have been a member for some time. I receive the Daily Telegraph summary by e-mail daily. One of the pieces mentions GoF as being a book people could not pick up, amongst others. On this matter and the matters of some of the other books mentioned I would be open to discussion either on or off list. This is the relevant link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2007/03/12/nbooks12.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_12032007 Enjoy! Goddlefrood patiently waiting From monicaboukhalfa at tmail.com Mon Mar 12 13:50:21 2007 From: monicaboukhalfa at tmail.com (Monica Boukhalfa) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:50:21 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter mentioned in poll of books you can't pick up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1173707424.5642551@fb9.dngr.org> I didn't see that. I read the post and I think I missed it. It appears that the only comment to that tune was that it was over burdened with teenaged love. Being a book about teenagers, that didn't seam out of line to me. On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 7:15 am, Goddlefrood wrote: > This is my first post to this group consciously, although I have been a > member for some time. > > I receive the Daily Telegraph summary by e-mail daily. One of the > pieces mentions GoF as being a book people could not pick up, amongst > others. > > On this matter and the matters of some of the other books mentioned I > would be open to discussion either on or off list. This is the relevant > link: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? > xml=/news/2007/03/12/nbooks12.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_12032007 > > Enjoy! > > Goddlefrood patiently waiting > > --Monica M. Boukhalfa 'All I can say is... When I needed the monkey, The monkey was there for me.' --T. Spencer Atlanta GA From sbejster at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 14:11:11 2007 From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Petition Reply In-Reply-To: <1173700234.1399.5663.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <13740.5375.qm@web37210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did anybody get the reply back from signing the petition and read it? Mine went to my bulk mail folder and I inadvertently deleted it (you know, the usual "the second you hit delete you realize that one was real"). I'm sure it wasn't anything major and need to be kept, but I was curious what it would have said. Sandra Dearborn, MI http://www.picturetrail.com/sbejster http://www.picturetrail.com/delana196242 Gdzie jest pokoj, tam i, szczescie. "Where there is Peace, there is Happiness." --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 14:35:10 2007 From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:10 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Petition Reply References: <13740.5375.qm@web37210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004001c764b3$a36705f0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Sandra Asked: Did anybody get the reply back from signing the petition and read it? Mine went to my bulk mail folder and I inadvertently deleted it (you know, the usual "the second you hit delete you realize that one was real"). I'm sure it wasn't anything major and need to be kept, but I was curious what it would have said. Sandra Dearborn, MI *************************************************************************** Chancie: It was/is really just to confirm that your email address is a real address. That's kinda how they prove you're you. That being said, I dug this out of my deleted box, so you can see what it says. Have a GREAT day!!! Chancie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Chancie Parmley, This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your signature as "Chancie Parmley" on the online petition: "Support for J.K. Rowling's Actions Against eBay" hosted on the web by our free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/jkrebay1/ Your signature on the petition is already complete, and there is no need to reply to this message. Your signature number for this petition is 7803. 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It appears > that the only comment to that tune was that it was over burdened with > teenaged love. > Being a book about teenagers, that didn't seam out of line to me. I must have missed that comment, but I think that, while the idea may have merit, the answer is much simpler. The article itself mentions that longer books just don't seem as appealing - a shocking 34% said they wouldn't even buy books over 350 pages. GoF, being the longest of the HP set, is the longest and, from a sheer physical standpoint, the most daunting - I know I haven't slogged through War & Peace for the same superficial reason. It's sad that a long book can be so off-putting, but the simple truth is that, in an age where the world moves at lightspeed and the well-read literature-adoring person is paid less than the person with specialized knowledge (doctor vs the average literature teacher), people read, if at all, for fun, which usually means short and breezy escapist fiction. There are always exceptions to this rule (the bible tops out pretty much every bestseller list), but just look at the annual yield of the romance novel industry to see that breezy pop fiction rules the day. ~Ali From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Mar 12 15:42:33 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:42:33 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR's Ebay Battle... In-Reply-To: <000c01c763e9$b0bf3800$66a4a8c0@rosie> References: <1173617546.743.37911.m20@yahoogroups.com> <20070311133524.91607.qmail@web37207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000c01c763e9$b0bf3800$66a4a8c0@rosie> Message-ID: <01b201c764bd$119fa460$4246dfdf@MichelleT> It was just 11480 when I signed it. Michelle _____ From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:30 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: JKR's Ebay Battle... [Sandra]: | Thanks for the note, Chancie. I've signed it. Hopefully it | will help her in some way. There were over 10,000 signatures | when I signed mine. [Lee]: Wow! I was 8640-something. Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline. net Walk beside me, and be my friend. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 16:43:13 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:43:13 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "mrnilrem" wrote: > > Newbie here, > > Hello to everyone in advance, I hope this is the right > Group.. > > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you > planning on reading after the end of the Harry Potter > series? This is a tough question since it will be a > large void to fill. > > R.J.S > bboyminn: Despite the fact that the series has received some criticism, I am eagerly awaiting the last in the 'Inheritance' Trilogy by Christopher Paolini (Eragon). Some say it is derivative and predictable, but I found it a captivating story with characters that I very much identified with and cared about. I'm always looking for new books, and based on recommendations, the 'Pendragon' and the 'Pradian'(sp) chronicles look like they may have potential. For those looking for a great adventure Sci-Fi/Fantasy series filled with poltical intrigue and moral and ethical dilemas, 'Enders Game' and the three continuation books plus 'Enders Shadow' and its three continuation books are a good read. I've read them all four or five times. To some extent the two 'Ender' series are character driven books. At places the story might drag a bit, get a bit long winded but you are so emotionally invested in the main characters that you have no problem slogging though to the interesting parts. A recent treasure I found, that I would heartily recommend is 'Maps in a Mirror - The Short Fiction of Orson Scott Card'; 675 pages of tiny print with the best short stories written across O.S.Card's long career; 46 in all. These are all very touching stories with real depth and character. The soft bound cover prices is only US$16.95 and certainly worth every penny. The best thing about short stories is they are over very quickly. You don't need a long attention span to get a complete story sign, sealed, and delivered. Again, these are all very touching stories and I most enthusiastically recommend this book. When I was young, all I read were Sci-Fi collections of short stories (Asimov Anthologies and the like). Now I find myself captivated by very long books if the story and the characters strike a chord with me, though I would have never predicted I would read 600 to 800 page books, nor have the attention span to follow a long series of books. The key for me is that the author has to make me care about the characters. If I don't care who they are, what they think, and about what is happening to them, then why am I bothering to read about them? Steve/bboyminn From elanor.isolda at googlemail.com Mon Mar 12 20:29:56 2007 From: elanor.isolda at googlemail.com (Elanor Isolda) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:29:56 +0000 Subject: Book Release Party at Sectus! Message-ID: <6493bc80703121329l35978d53r84309c62c81ed501@mail.gmail.com> Sectus 2007 is pleased to announce the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Reading Party, in association with Fiction Alley, the web's largest archive of Harry Potter-specific fanfiction and art. To celebrate the release of the final Harry Potter book during the conference, the venue will be open from 10pm on Friday July 20th. In the run-up to midnight, there will be themed entertainments, including a last-minute theory competition. When the clock strikes midnight, the wait will finally be over and pre-ordered books, which are being delivered direct to the venue, will be handed out. The building will then remain open throughout the night, with various areas available for reading and discussing the book for those who want to dive straight in. Anyone attending Sectus can now order their copy of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows through the conference website, but hurry, because there is only a limited number available. We look forward to welcoming you to the ultimate book release party! Please feel free to contact me if you have any queries, or check out the forum at www.sectus.net/forum/ Regards Elanor Isolda Conference Chair Sectus 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sectus is a trading name of Sectus Ltd, registered in England and Wales. Registration number: 6130297 Registered Office: 11 Murray Street, London NW1 9RE [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From chnc1024 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 20:58:33 2007 From: chnc1024 at bellsouth.net (Chancie) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:33 -0500 Subject: Any one else find the lack of updates odd? Message-ID: <000d01c764e9$328e90b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Is it just me, or does it seem like Jk is giving us much less to go on this time around than we had with HBP? If I'm remembering correctly by this time with HBP we had 3 chapter names, the name McLaggan and the quote about Rufus Scrimgeour. Didn't we? Any clues to what's going on? We have around 4 months to the release and NOTHING other than the title! Is it just me, or is that really weird considering the past book releases? Chancie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From annemehr at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 04:04:40 2007 From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:04:40 -0000 Subject: Any one else find the lack of updates odd? In-Reply-To: <000d01c764e9$328e90b0$0201a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Chancie" wrote: > > Is it just me, or does it seem like Jk is giving us much less to go on this time around than we had with HBP? If I'm remembering correctly by this time with HBP we had 3 chapter names, the name McLaggan and the quote about Rufus Scrimgeour. Didn't we? Any clues to what's going on? We have around 4 months to the release and NOTHING other than the title! Is it just me, or is that really weird considering the past book releases? > > Chancie Well, I am hoping, if the editing is lightening up any, that she is working on the final WOMBAT exam, which really ought to be out within a month or two. But, yes, I would very much like an excerpt to chew on, meanwhile, or a nice batch of FAQs with a poll question! Annemehr From doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 06:29:11 2007 From: doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com (doddiemoemoe) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:29:11 -0000 Subject: Thoughts on Rupert - Comedy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > I'm generally prone to worry, even about things that I > have no control over and that don't affect me. I worry > about the various actors in the HP movies. > > Now to the central character and subject of this > post - Rupert Grint. Perhaps Rupert is just having > a fun time and enjoying the moment; enjoying being > young, rich (moderately so) and famous. Nothing > wrong with that, but the potential is very high > for him to be one of those child actors who never > makes it into the realm of adult actors. *major snippage** Who cares>!?!?!?! It is okay with me if any of the HP actors never went on to do anything..I may not like it because like all actors I look forward to seeing them....just like I like looking towards the "next HP book"... Perhaps I have a different viewpoint being raised in the UK...but I'm just as happy to see Arthur weasley in an episode of "Little Brittain" as I am to see Tina Fey in an old Saturday night episode... Fact is we must let these kids choose for themselves...(do we really need an english version of "Danny Bonnaduche"(yes my spelling is wrong but D.B. would understand) or that gal from different strokes (Dana Prince?!?_)!! Fact is, even if said thesbians ever set foot on this site, they would never take any concerns we had to heart.(and they shouldn't)..They should listen to their family and take their agent's advice with a grain of salt...(as we should take anyone's advice) On the other hand if you're looking for another bbc venue for rupert...I might request a reprise of the "Trailer Park Boys"...LOL now that series was hilarious!(see....I told you I understood!) From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 08:12:23 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:12:23 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter mentioned in poll of books you can't pick up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Monica Boukhalfa : > I read the post and I think I missed it. It appears > that the only comment to that tune was that it was over > burdened with teenaged love. Goddlefrood: Agreeing with Monica Boukhalfa that she missed it, and asking that he not be placed on moderation again;), says that it is not in the article, at least not the one I read. The link I provided, I note, was broken and a different report on the same poll may well have appeared elsewhere. The link I provided took you only to The Telegraph's homepage, that is if you clicked on it, I have attempted to fix this, but sadly failed :(, if you paste it into a blank url, that is paste http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2007/03/12/nbooks12.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_12032007 (the whole of this in a single line) into the bar where the page you are on appears, or on the same bar on a blank page, it will take you there. I was concerned about this, having seen Monica's comment ;) > Ali > The article itself mentions that longer books just don't seem > as appealing - a shocking 34% said they wouldn't even buy books > over 350 pages. GoF, is the longest of the HP books (small edit > to original) and, from a sheer physical standpoint, the most > daunting - I know I haven't slogged through War & Peace for the > same superficial reason. > There are always exceptions to this rule (the bible tops out > pretty much every bestseller list), but just look at the annual > yield of the romance novel industry to see that breezy pop > fiction rules the day. Goddlefrood: As an avid reader, it had never really occurred to me that other people didn't read lengthy tomes. No matter how busy you are, there should always be time for that. Shows what a superficial world we are living in. If a book is well written it should not matter how long it is. It will bring pleasure to the reader, as one example I would point to Don Quixote, which in the Penguin Classics edition weighs in at 982 pages, admittedly having originally been written as two separate installments. It is an absolute delight and IMHO could never bore anyone. The Bible is not a fair exception to point to, as even though it is the ultimate bestseller, so to speak, it is rare to find someone who buys it to read from cover to cover. More of something to dip into really, JMO. No doubt Mills and Boon have a great deal to answer for. Goddlefrood From lysles3 at aol.com Tue Mar 13 13:30:49 2007 From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:30:49 EDT Subject: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: I think I will try the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. I read the first one and didn't love it, but, I'll try a few others and see if it draws me in. Has anyone read Waifs and Strays by Charles DeLint? Excellent juvenile fiction IMO. It's a collection of short stories. I hated for each one to end. Happy reading! Y Hilaire


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Mar 13 13:59:25 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:59:25 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <017f01c76577$d3ac5a70$4246dfdf@MichelleT> I also want to read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. Michelle . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cdayr at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 22:57:42 2007 From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:57:42 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "mrnilrem" wrote: > > Newbie here, > > Hello to everyone in advance, I hope this is the right Group.. > > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning on > reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a tough > question since it will be a large void to fill. > > R.J.S > Not exactly answering the question because I am reading it now, but "Cloud Atlas" by David Mitchell is the most original, thought- provoking, and just downright brilliant book I have read in a long time. I can imagine some of you other bookworm Potterites who like a challenge will enjoy it as well. The book actually changes genres throughout, so there is a travelogue, an awesome sci-fi storyline, memoir, etc. in all differnt time periods, and the storylines all connect in very unexpected ways. If you like trolling for clues in HP, this book is great fun as you try to find the connections and tie everything together. Not to mention the writing prowess of the author, who composes interesting stories in all of the different genres. I have cried, laughed out loud, and had the "this is amazing" shivers a number of times, and I still have about 50 pages left to read. It is not HP, it is an adult book and some sections are more challenging, highly literary reads, but I'm guessing there are some of you out there who would be as thrilled as I have been reading it. Celia From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 14 01:52:17 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:52:17 -0000 Subject: Any one else find the lack of updates odd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chancie wrote: > > > > Is it just me, or does it seem like Jk is giving us much less to go on this time around than we had with HBP? If I'm remembering correctly by this time with HBP we had 3 chapter names, the name McLaggan and the quote about Rufus Scrimgeour. Didn't we? Any clues to what's going on? We have around 4 months to the release and NOTHING other than the title! Is it just me, or is that really weird considering the past book releases? Annemehr responded: > Well, I am hoping, if the editing is lightening up any, that she is working on the final WOMBAT exam, which really ought to be out within a month or two. > > But, yes, I would very much like an excerpt to chew on, meanwhile, or a nice batch of FAQs with a poll question! Carol adds: I don't remember the name McLaggen, but I definitely remember "Draco's Detour" and "Spinner's End being given as chapter titles and and the lion man quote that turned out to refer to Scrimgeour. Annemehr is probably right that JKR is preparing a final Wombat. I seem to recall a promise of a third one. Personally, the Wombat could be killed by a Bludger for all I care. I just want some real clues and some real answers. So I second the motion for a nice batch of FAQs and a poll question before any more time passes. And while she's at it, I hope she kills a few unproductive rumors. (I'd like to see Harry's scar is a Horcrux debunked once and for all, but I doubt I'll be that lucky.) Are you listening, JKR? Carol, who is starting to feel a knot of anxiety building in her stomach as the tension mounts From sbejster at yahoo.com Wed Mar 14 05:49:46 2007 From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Petition Reply In-Reply-To: <1173786525.527.42086.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <102138.51667.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sandra Asked: Did anybody get the reply back from signing the petition and read it? Mine went to my bulk mail folder and I inadvertently deleted it (you know, the usual "the second you hit delete you realize that one was real"). I'm sure it wasn't anything major and need to be kept, but I was curious what it would have said. ++++ Chancie replied: It was/is really just to confirm that your email address is a real address. That's kinda how they prove you're you. That being said, I dug this out of my deleted box, so you can see what it says. ++++ Chancie, Thank you for your reply and forward of the e-mail. I'm glad to see it wasn't something I needed to respond to. I think that was my biggest concern. Otherwise, I would have had to resign it. Have a great day. Sandra Dearborn, MI --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From icedragn at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:24:56 2007 From: icedragn at hotmail.com (Jacqueline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:24:56 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think I might actually either read the Series of Unfortunate Events Series as I have not even seen the movie yet lol, or the Dark Tower series because I did start the first book, it just didn't get my attention like Harry Potter did. :) I am going to miss Harry Potter but maybe JKR has another series in mind and if that is so then I cant wait for that lol. :) Happy reading all... icedragn From cute_janers at yahoo.com Wed Mar 14 20:01:17 2007 From: cute_janers at yahoo.com (Liz Stephens) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: <351589.51312.qm@web37206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My brother got me hooked on the Artemis Fowl books. I think I'll probably be reading those. ~*Liz Stephens*~ ?If you live to be 100, I hope I live to be 100 minus 1 day, so I never have to live without you.? -- Winnie the Pooh --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 14 21:32:39 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:32:39 -0000 Subject: Lodowicke Muggleton as DNB Life of the Day/etymology of Ludovic Message-ID: Hail, fellow Muggles! I thought you might be interested in knowing that the New Dictionary of National Biography's Life of the Day for March 14 is Lodowicke Muggleton, a name that's almost a cross between Ludovic (Bagman) and Muggle. Maybe JKR read about Muggleton at some point and stowed up that name in her subconscious mind? Of course, Ludovic (Lodowicke), or Ludwig, ostensibly means "famous warrior," but "ludo" in Latin means "I play [games or sports]." The full etymology is "ludo ludere lusi lusum [to play, sport; to play at or with; to imitate, banter; deceive, delude]." Very revealing, regardless of what we think of Ludo. But I digress, as usual: The link for the Lodowicke Muggleton article, which is only good for today, is http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/1.html For the rest of the week, you can find the entry under Lives of the Week at http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ For what it's worth. Carol, who thinks that the name Lodowicke Muggleton is more likely to be a coincidence than a connection but finds it interesting, anyway From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 15 07:41:12 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:41:12 -0000 Subject: Lodowicke Muggleton as DNB Life of the Day/etymology of Ludovic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > Of course, Ludovic (Lodowicke), or Ludwig, ostensibly means "famous > warrior," but "ludo" in Latin means "I play [games or sports]." The > full etymology is "ludo ludere lusi lusum [to play, sport; to play at > or with; to imitate, banter; deceive, delude]." Very revealing, > regardless of what we think of Ludo. Geoff: Ludwig is quite a noted name. Ludwig van Beethoven comes to mind as did Ludwig who built Oberschwanstein castle in Bavaria. I've always assumed that JKR's abbreviation of Ludovic to Ludo was one of her famous(?) plays on words with the Latin because of his obsession with games. In public schools, the overall winner of a championship used to be declared "Victor Ludorum" (= Champion of the Games). Its etymology is not from "ludo" , the verb, but "ludus" (=game), the noun. From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 09:31:10 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:31:10 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > R.J.S. Posited: > My question is a simple one, what if anything are you planning > on reading after the end of the Harry Potter series? This is a > tough question since it will be a large void to fill. Goddlefrood Responds: Well, I have already read the six books published so far, I'm a fast reader;) Once I have read DH, which dependent on length should take until the 22nd July or so, I will read other books on my shelf, as I do now. I am reading a Ruth Rendell novel "A Sight For Sore Eyes", amongst others at the moment. I enjoy reading early source materials for Greek and Roman history and have some more to read before I tackle the full length version of Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which indubitably will come around after the HP books have been completed by me. In terms of recommendations, and I note that some of these have been mentioned on this thread already, allow me to suggest all or any of the following: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Series by Douglas Adams A Series of Unfortunate Events by Lemony Snicket, IMO, the best of that ilk of series. Agatha Christie, just about any, but especially the Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple books. The Jeeves & Wooster series by P. G. Wodehouse, and almost anthing else by same author. I have a bookmark that sums this up rather well. It says simply: "If you haven't read it, it's a new book!" Hope some may find this of use. Goddlefrood, planning to curl up and finish that Ruth Rendell :) From jnferr at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 11:30:04 2007 From: jnferr at gmail.com (Janette) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:30:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lodowicke Muggleton as DNB Life of the Day/etymology of Ludovic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ee758b40703150430t49053404wec16106cad7c6278@mail.gmail.com> On 3/15/07, Geoff Bannister wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" > wrote: > > > Of course, Ludovic (Lodowicke), or Ludwig, ostensibly means "famous > > warrior," but "ludo" in Latin means "I play [games or sports]." The > > full etymology is "ludo ludere lusi lusum [to play, sport; to play at > > or with; to imitate, banter; deceive, delude]." Very revealing, > > regardless of what we think of Ludo. > > Geoff: > Ludwig is quite a noted name. Ludwig van Beethoven comes to mind as > did Ludwig who built Oberschwanstein castle in Bavaria. > > I've always assumed that JKR's abbreviation of Ludovic to Ludo > was one of her famous(?) plays on words with the Latin because of > his obsession with games. > > In public schools, the overall winner of a championship used to > be declared "Victor Ludorum" (= Champion of the Games). Its > etymology is not from "ludo" , the verb, but "ludus" (=game), the noun. montims: and of course, most Brits are very familiar with Ludovic Kennedy, so for me it was just a name... It hadn't occurred to me that Americans, for example, would find the name unfamiliar... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From betsyfallon at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 12:17:47 2007 From: betsyfallon at hotmail.com (betsy fallon) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:17:47 -0000 Subject: Audio for Book 7? Message-ID: Anyone know if the audio version of Book 7 will be released on the same day as the hardcover? Last time, for Book 6, both the audio and hardcover were available on the same day. When we pick up the books at midnight, I read the book and hubby listens to the CDs. Just wondering if any one has any info. Betsy From lysles3 at aol.com Thu Mar 15 13:50:46 2007 From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:50:46 EDT Subject: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: My brother got me hooked on the Artemis Fowl books. I think I'll probably be reading those. ~*Liz Stephens*~ Oh, yes, I like those too. I've been enjoying the So You Want To Be A Wizard books as well. Y Hilaire


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 15:14:38 2007 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070315151438.39766.qmail@web63412.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Sheryll: > > > > I've just received the go-ahead from our District > Manager to hold a > > Harry Potter Day for kids at our Blockbuster > branch. We're going to > > play the movies all day, raffle off a couple DVDs > and have a trivia > > contest. This is where I need help. I'm good at > making up hard > > questions but I really need some easy/intermediate > questions for kids. > > From Bohcoo: > Are you familiar with the Wizard Challenge Game? > This game would > provide you with questions galore and I doubt if > anyone would mind if > you used some of them. The questions range from > extremely easy to much > more memory-challenging. You will find more material > than you probably > need. > > Good luck! Sounds like fun! Sheryll: I didn't have time to reply before this, so very sorry for the delay. We held the event yesterday afternoon at the store. It wasn't really well attended, though a lot of blame for that goes to the dismal downpour we had yesterday. Still, we had way more kids than usual for a Wednesday afternoon and lots of fun was had. I gave out some HP stickers to participants and we held a draw for 2 movies, 1 PS and 1 GoF. I want to thank everyone for all their suggestions, they were very helpful. It turns out that most of the questions that I had done *were* too hard for the younger kids. With your advice and help from my equally HP-obsessed daughter I managed to get a good list together of suitable questions. Thanks so much for all the help! Oh, and one of our regular customers came in just near the tail end of the event. There weren't any kids in the store at that moment and I was doing regular afternoon tasks, still wearing the hat and robe. He looks at me and says. "It's a little early for Hallowe'en, isn't it?". I looked at him, laughed and said, "Well, you have get a jump start on things if you want to get the really *good* candy before it's gone.". He laughed. :) Sheryll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 15:24:08 2007 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070315152408.9756.qmail@web63404.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > > > > > Sheryll, who *will* be the one working that day as > I'm the only one > who > > owns robes, a wand and pointy hat :) > > > > > Kemper now: > Sheryll, how early do you get to read the book > before the public? > If not early, how late you staying up to read after > working all day and > into the early morning? > Sheryll: I wish we got books at our store, but we're strictly DVDs and video games. I'd love to have my hands on the book before the general public. Mind you, when it comes to DVDs, we get them the week before they're released to the public. One of the best job perks at Blockbuster is having 10 free rentals per week and getting to take home everything that's coming out the following week. It's not a job requirement that we preview the upcoming titles, but I tend to look at it that way myself. I've been at our store for 2 1/2 years and there are a lot of regular customers who rely on my for informed advice on what to rent. I'm also the only staff member who will make an effort to watch as many of the foreign and independent films as possible. Everyone will watch the big films, so when we have a lot of small titles I tend to skip some of the big ones, knowing someone on staff will watch those. We have a number of film students who frequent our store, too, so there's a certain amount of satisfaction in being able to answer questions like, "Do you have any Norwegian films?". :) I wonder if anyone here on OTC works at a bookstore and can tell us if they have the same kind of job perk - access to titles before they're released? Sheryll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 19:38:47 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:38:47 -0000 Subject: Lodowicke Muggleton as DNB Life of the Day/etymology of Ludovic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carol earlier: > > Hail, fellow Muggles! I thought you might be interested in knowing that the New Dictionary of National Biography's Life of the Day for March 14 is Lodowicke Muggleton, a name that's almost a cross between Ludovic (Bagman) and Muggle. Maybe JKR read about Muggleton at some point and stowed up that name in her subconscious mind? > The link for the Lodowicke Muggleton article, which is only good for today [make that yesterday], is http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/1.html > > For the rest of the week, you can find the entry under Lives of the > Week at http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/lotw/ > > For what it's worth. > > Carol, who thinks that the name Lodowicke Muggleton is more likely to be a coincidence than a connection but finds it interesting, anyway > Carol again: I forgot to mention that Muggleton was a founder of a group of religious dissenters called the Muggletonians, who believed, among other things, that witchcraft, like the devil, was a product of the human imagination. Carol, who finds it interesting that *Muggle*ton didn't believe in witches From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 20:26:13 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:26:13 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Goddlefrood wrote: > Once I have read DH, which dependent on length should take until > the 22nd July or so, I will read other books on my shelf, as I do > now. Carol responds: Excellent advice--the best I've heard so far. I have literally hundreds of unread books at home, which I no doubt ought to have read instead of persistently rereading the HP books. Most of them relate to old interests, especially history and paleoanthropology, and old addictions (LOTR, Richard III). I can't imagine another fictional world compensating for the loss of the WW or another fictional character compensating for the loss of Snape (not that I expect the one to be destroyed or the other to die, just that JKR will write nothing *new* on them--unlee she publishes her notebooks as a boon to Rowling scholars). If JKR writes anything new, I'll sample it--test the waters, see if it's worth reading. Certainly, I'll read "Hogwarts: A History" if she publishes it. But it won't be adequate compensation for the end of the series, and the idea of reading some other author's fantasy works or young adult fiction doesn't appeal to me. Maybe I'll head back to the nineteenth century and try to make it through "Vanity Fair" or some other books that I found disappointing on a first go-round. There's always a reread of Dickens and Austen and the Bronte sisters and even George Eliot or the English Romantic poets. Or, heaven forfend, I'll resort to reading and writing fanfic. Carol, hoping that HPfGu stays around for awhile, if only as a support group for addicts who can't let go From cdayr at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 00:07:19 2007 From: cdayr at yahoo.com (cdayr) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:07:19 -0000 Subject: Help me out? In-Reply-To: <20070315152408.9756.qmail@web63404.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sheryll Townsend wrote: > > I wonder if anyone here on OTC works at a bookstore > and can tell us if they have the same kind of job perk > - access to titles before they're released? > > Sheryll > Celia says: I worked in bookstores for 7 years back in the 90's, and I can't imagine it has changed much. My experience was that very occasionally one of the buyers would receive an advanced copy of a book (not a real copy, it had special binding and could not be sold) in order to read it and get the customers excited for the release. Most often though, the perk to working there was that you could reserve your copy and then stand over the box as it was being opened and get your hands on a copy of whatever you wanted the moment it arrived in the store. However, your grabbing a copy would take place about 10 minutes before the book was put out for general consumption by the public. I worked at a big independent(not a chain) so I'm sure rules and experienecs vary. There were fabulous other perks, such as a generous discount, opportunity to borrow and read books (without hurting then of course) and then bring them back, and the ability to special order things very easily. But early copies were a rare treat and I'm sure do not exist for HP! Celia From kkersey at swbell.net Fri Mar 16 03:22:22 2007 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:22:22 -0000 Subject: Help me out? In-Reply-To: <20070315152408.9756.qmail@web63404.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Kemper now: > > Sheryll, how early do you get to read the book > > before the public? > > If not early, how late you staying up to read after > > working all day and > > into the early morning? > > > Sheryll: > > I wish we got books at our store, but we're strictly > DVDs and video games. I'd love to have my hands on the > book before the general public. Elisabet chimes in: For the last two HP releases, I'm fairly certain bookstores were under contract not to break the seals on the shipping boxes before the release day. So sorry, no perks for the employees there. I am a bit curious how Amazon and BN etc. handle the security as they do have to pack individual books for shipment before the release date. My mom actually worked in an Amazon warehouse when between jobs a few years ago and they tried to recruit her back for the HBP release. I suspect from hearing about her previous experience though that warehouse employees would actually have very little chance to open the books, anyway, and would likely have had to sign in blood that they wouldn't look or tell anything about the HP books before release. Elisabet From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 17 22:30:53 2007 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:30:53 -0000 Subject: /etymology of Ludovic / Fleur de Lys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Geoff wrote in : << Ludwig is quite a noted name. Ludwig van Beethoven comes to mind as did Ludwig who built Oberschwanstein castle in Bavaria. >> I believe Hogwarts Castle looks much like Oberschwanstein castle, except being built on top of a cliff, it has more levels tunnelled inside the cliff, so it can have underground rooms with windows (in the cliff face). << I've always assumed that JKR's abbreviation of Ludovic to Ludo was one of her famous(?) plays on words with the Latin because of his obsession with games. >> I agree, and conveniently, the "vic" element even sounds like "victory", as in your example below. << In public schools, the overall winner of a championship used to be declared "Victor Ludorum" (= Champion of the Games). Its etymology is not from "ludo" , the verb, but "ludus" (=game), the noun. >> Magister Ludi? The names Ludwig and Louis both come from Chlodovach, the name modernized as Clovis the Frank. IIRC Frankish is a Germanic language but France is named after the Franks. I know of two stories attributing the fleur de lys (its name and its use as a French royal symbol) to Clovis. In my favorite, he and his army were on one side of a river and the enemy army was on the other side. Irises were growing in the river, which Clovis recognized to mean that the river was shallow, so he ordered his army to ford the river and attack the enemy (by surprise), so they won the battle and the war. So Clovis adopted the iris as Fleur de Clovis, later slurred to Fleur de Lis. The other story is that Clovis converted himself (and all his subjects who didn't want to be executed) to Christianity because the Virgin Mary appeared and handed him a lily, which could go with the name Fleur de Clovis or the name Fleur de Lily. (A quick peek at Wikipedia indicates that his wife Clothida orchestrated this.) IIRC, some years ago I looked this up in an old edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, and it said that Fleur de Lys started as Fleur de Loys, which was the then spelling of the name of Louis the somethingth who ordered that all the regalia of his son and heir Philip Augustus be decorated with that motif. At the time, I was playing in an frpg campaign in which Philip Augustus was the villain, so it was a memorable coincidence for him to turn up in an encyclopedia article that started with motifs in Egyptian tomb paintings and the frescoes at Knossos. From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Sun Mar 18 07:30:53 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:30:53 -0000 Subject: /etymology of Ludovic / Fleur de Lys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" wrote: Geoff wrote in > : > << Ludwig is quite a noted name. Ludwig van Beethoven comes to mind as > did Ludwig who built Oberschwanstein castle in Bavaria. >> Catlady: > I believe Hogwarts Castle looks much like Oberschwanstein castle, > except being built on top of a cliff, it has more levels tunnelled > inside the cliff, so it can have underground rooms with windows (in > the cliff face). Geoff: It depends on how you visualise Hogwarts. In the films, the castle is much sturdier than Neuschwanstein. The latter has a number of very slim towers which make it look tall and graceful - I think Disney used it as an inspiration for some castles in his films. Geoff (earlier): > << I've always assumed that JKR's abbreviation of Ludovic to Ludo > was one of her famous(?) plays on words with the Latin because of > his obsession with games. >> Catlady: > I agree, and conveniently, the "vic" element even sounds like > "victory", as in your example below. > > << In public schools, the overall winner of a championship used to > be declared "Victor Ludorum" (= Champion of the Games). Its > etymology is not from "ludo" , the verb, but "ludus" (=game), the noun. >> > > Magister Ludi? Geoff: That would translate as "Master of the Games". This is used more in the sense of teacher, expert, chief - not the overall winner. It's most common derivative in English is probably 'magistrate'. From entropymail at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 14:44:01 2007 From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:44:01 -0000 Subject: Help me out? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kkersey_austin" wrote: > Elisabet chimes in: > For the last two HP releases, I'm fairly certain bookstores were under > contract not to break the seals on the shipping boxes before the > release day. So sorry, no perks for the employees there. > Yes, breaking the seal before the release *minute* is a big no-no. I'm sure they are contractually bound to super-tight security and, if I were a bookstore, I'd be loathe to risk my rights to any future Harry Potter material just to sneak a peek! :: Entropy :: Visit my shop at: http://www.SugarcubeDesign.etsy.com Visit my blog at: http://www.SugarcubeDesign.blogspot.com From entropymail at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 14:57:19 2007 From: entropymail at yahoo.com (entropymail) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:57:19 -0000 Subject: Harry Potter Video Message-ID: Has everyone seen this Snape-inspired video? It cracks me up every time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVxMyJVwNrA :: Entropy :: Visit my shop at: http://www.SugarcubeDesign.etsy.com Visit my blog at: http://www.SugarcubeDesign.blogspot.com From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Mar 18 17:43:26 2007 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 18 Mar 2007 17:43:26 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 3/18/2007, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1174239806.16.6467.m48@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday March 18, 2007 1:00 pm - 1:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lavaluvn at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 23:06:14 2007 From: lavaluvn at yahoo.com (Andromeda) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:06:14 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All! Just had to chime in here with a name I haven't heard mentioned much: Patricia McKillip. Her "Riddlemaster" books are wonderful and have been re-issued in one collection. Beautiful, lyrical language, strong characters and earth-shaking magic. I missed her books when I was a teen, but have discovered them since Harry brought me back to explore the fantasy world! Enjoy, Andromeda PS - thanks for the recommendations for Lois McMaster Bujold - I've been enjoying her books greatly thanks to OTCers. Also just finished Mercedes Lackey & James Mallory's new trilogy. My husband particularly liked those. From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Mon Mar 19 03:58:10 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:58:10 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: In a message dated 3/15/07 3:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes: > > Goddlefrood wrote: > > > Once I have read DH, which dependent on length should take until > > the 22nd July or so, I will read other books on my shelf, as I do > > now. > > Carol responds: > Excellent advice--the best I've heard so far. I have literally > hundreds of unread books at home > > > > > Sandy: I am going to join Goddlefrood and Carol on this one. I belong to a couple of different book clubs and have at least a hundred unread books stacked everywhere. Harry Potter was a fluke in my life that has consumed several years of it. I have to say that I am sorry to see it ending, but on the other hand it will be nice to get back to my regular reading. BTW, Carol, I am currently reading Jane Austen's Mansfield Park. I got it from the book club recently and had never read it, so I couldn't resist. It is putting me behind on rereading the HP books on time to go from HBP to DH but I will just skip OOP if I have to. It won't be too much of a sacrifice since it is my least favorite, and it will save me from throwing the book several times as I have done every time I have read it. I also hope that HPfGU endures for years to come. I'm not sure which is more fascinating; the HP books or the group members spin on them. Sandy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Mon Mar 19 06:02:07 2007 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 19 Mar 2007 06:02:07 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 3/18/2007, 11:00 am Message-ID: <1174284127.17.15842.m50@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday March 18, 2007 11:00 am - 12:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 22:28:52 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:28:52 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Goddlefrood wrote: > > > > > Once I have read DH, which dependent on length should take until the 22nd July or so, I will read other books on my shelf, as I do now. > > Carol responded: > > Excellent advice--the best I've heard so far. I have literally > > hundreds of unread books at home > Sandy: > > I am going to join Goddlefrood and Carol on this one. I belong to a couple of different book clubs and have at least a hundred unread books stacked everywhere. Harry Potter was a fluke in my life that has consumed several years of it. I have to say that I am sorry to see it ending, but on the other hand it will be nice to get back to my regular reading. > > BTW, Carol, I am currently reading Jane Austen's Mansfield Park. I got it from the book club recently and had never read it, so I couldn't resist. It is putting me behind on rereading the HP books on time to go from HBP to DH but I will just skip OOP if I have to. It won't be too much of a sacrifice since it is my least favorite, and it will save me from throwing the book several times as I have done every time I have read it. > > I also hope that HPfGU endures for years to come. I'm not sure which is more fascinating; the HP books or the group members spin on them. > > Sandy Carol again: No, no! Don't skip OoP. I'm currently rereading it, and parts of it are wonderful (all the Occlumency scenes, for example, and Snape vs. Sirius Black at 12 GP. The DoM battle is also intriguing, but hard to follow. I like figuring out which DE is which, but I'm weird that way). "Mansfield Park" is possibly not the best of the Austen novels (a matter of taste, of course), and it shouldn't take all that long to read. Certainly, you should have time for it *and* the fifth and sixth HP books. I grit my teeth when I read some of the Umbridge scenes, and you might want to skip or skim them if you feel the same way, but OoP was long for a reason; I think we'll find that parts of it that seemed unimportant at the time fall into place when we read DH. Carol, who loved GoF and found OoP disappointing on a first reading but thinks it improves with time From drdara at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 06:42:28 2007 From: drdara at yahoo.com (danielle dassero) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: <324337.4827.qm@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> I think I might actually either read the Series of Unfortunate Events Series as I have not even seen the movie yet lol, or the Dark Tower series because I did start the first book, it just didn't get my attention like Harry Potter did. :) I am going to miss Harry Potter but maybe JKR has another series in mind and if that is so then I cant wait for that lol. :) Happy reading all... icedragn The movie isn't really as good as the books are. So read the books first then watch the movie.. Danielle ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drednort at alphalink.com.au Tue Mar 20 11:42:41 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:42:41 +1100 Subject: I have been taking painting lessons In-Reply-To: <324337.4827.qm@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46006361.28881.DA84C@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Wanted to share. Quite proud. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/drednort/MyFirst.jpg Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From mwood005 at houston.rr.com Tue Mar 20 13:34:42 2007 From: mwood005 at houston.rr.com (melody_wood14) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:34:42 -0000 Subject: I have been taking painting lessons In-Reply-To: <46006361.28881.DA84C@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: --it is beautiful melody - In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" wrote: > > Wanted to share. > > Quite proud. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/drednort/MyFirst.jpg > > Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought > Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html > (ISTJ) | drednort at ... | ICQ: 6898200 > "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one > thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the > facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be > uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that > need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil > Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia > From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 14:19:11 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:19:11 -0000 Subject: I have been taking painting lessons In-Reply-To: <46006361.28881.DA84C@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: > Dreadnought ;) > Quite proud. > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/drednort/MyFirst.jpg Goddlefrood: It was well worth sharing. The Murray perhaps, or is it the Yarra? Keep up the good work :) From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Mar 20 14:57:29 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:57:29 -0400 Subject: Emma Message-ID: <00e501c76b00$191447c0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> I just got my 'daily gossip" email.... I copied the blurb below: Is Emma Quitting Harry Potter?... This question seems to be the hot topic. Emma Watson who plays Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter movies, has reportedly refused to commit herself to the final two films in the series. According to co-star Rupert Grint, Emma has become tired of being known as "that girl from Harry Potter". Apparently Rupert, who has starred as the best friend of Daniel Radcliffe's Harry in the first five movies, and Daniel himself are not happy with Emma's decision. "Daniel and I are distant from her now. We don't text or talk to her when we are not filming," he told a British newspaper. But other reports state that although Emma has not signed up for the final two films, producers Warner Bros still fully expect her to... stay tuned! Michelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bboyminn at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 16:54:52 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:54:52 -0000 Subject: Emma In-Reply-To: <00e501c76b00$191447c0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Message-ID: --- "Michelle A. Tague" wrote: > > I just got my 'daily gossip" email.... > > I copied the blurb below: > > Is Emma Quitting Harry Potter?... > > This question seems to be the hot topic. Emma Watson > who plays Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter movies, > has reportedly refused to commit herself to the final > two films in the series. According to co-star Rupert > Grint, Emma has become tired of being known as "that > girl from Harry Potter". Apparently Rupert, who has > starred as the best friend of Daniel Radcliffe's > Harry in the first five movies, and Daniel himself are > not happy with Emma's decision. > > "Daniel and I are distant from her now. We don't text > or talk to her when we are not filming," he told a > British newspaper. But other reports state that although > Emma has not signed up for the final two films, > producers Warner Bros still fully expect her to... > stay tuned! > > Michelle bboyminn: Considering that all these 'news' source are quoting a very unreliable tabloid, I consider it with a grain of salt. Either Emma will sign or she won't, and despite my disappointment, I will support her in whatever decision she makes. I am not so selfish that I only consider how this affects me. If she is willing to pass up several million dollars, then this must be very serious issue for her. If she decides not to do it, then I think we can all be sure she considered it very very very carefully, and came to a decision as to what was best for her. As to Rupert's alledged comments, it would seem that Rupert would be smart enough not to talk openly to one of the most notoroius tabloid in the world. I'm guessing they took bits and pieces of existing interviews or other second hand information and twisted them into a headline grabbing story, or non-story as I prefer to think of it. All of the main characters have said they don't hang out after the movie is finished, so that is nothing new. Rupert said, and it is presented without context, that 'they are distant from each other', and that is also true. They don't live in the same areas of England. So, really there is nothing new here except a tabloids effort to create a story out of a few twisted bit of information presented without context. When a reputable news source presents a story that doesn't make reference to a tabloid, and actually presents official information in a proper context then I will be concerned. Until then, that particular tabloid hasn't said anything we didn't already know. Just passing it a long. Steve/bboyminn From kkersey at swbell.net Tue Mar 20 17:05:31 2007 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:05:31 -0000 Subject: JKR's book recommendations Message-ID: Seeing all the recent discussion about what to read next reminds me that I've been meaning to post a link to J.K. Rowling's list of favorite books, as of six years ago anyway, when she did an interview and provided her favorite books list (with commentary) for Oprah magazine's "Books that Made a Difference" series. Here's the link to the intro page, then there are links to the interview and to the "bookshelf": http://www.oprah.com/obc/omag/obc_omag_200101_books.jhtml I think she has talked about many of these books in other interviews as well. I just started reading Roddy Doyle's "The Woman Who Walked Into Doors" which I've been meaning to get to after running across this article a few years ago. I just read one of his other books (A Star Called Henry) which I found very slow going but then it did come around in the end. This one is much easier going, not the least because so far my ignorance of Irish history is not impeding my understanding of what is going on in the story. I think it would be quite interesting to compile a list of books/authors that JKR has recommended in interviews; she doesn't always list the same ones. Also books that appear on her personal bookshelf - I think we've discussed here the ones that are on the bookshelf at JKRowling.com (including a couple of Roddy Doyle books) but there are also some publicity photos that were taken in her office where she is standing in front of bookshelves. I think one of those photos may have been used in the British edition book jacket, but I can't find any of those pictures now. Anyone know where they might turn up onthe web? Elisabet, who always checks out other people's bookshelves when given an opportunity From s_ings at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 18:32:42 2007 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I have been taking painting lessons In-Reply-To: <46006361.28881.DA84C@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: <20070320183242.61223.qmail@web63408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- Shaun Hately wrote: > Wanted to share. > > Quite proud. > Sheryll: You should be proud, that's very nicely done! Thanks for sharing it with us. :) Sheryll, who hasn't an artistic bone in her body __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 20 19:35:01 2007 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:35:01 -0000 Subject: HBP book length Message-ID: There were some posts that sneaked through over on Main concerning rumors about the length of Deathly Hallows. Turns out those rumors weren't accurate anyway. Per The Leaky Cauldron, Scholastic has now confirmed that their edition will be 784 pages, so the 2nd longest of the series: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#article:9634 Yippee! Siriusly Snapey Susan From susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 20 19:36:18 2007 From: susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net (cubfanbudwoman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:36:18 -0000 Subject: Make that *DH* book length (was: HBP book length) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman" wrote: > > There were some posts that sneaked through over on Main concerning > rumors about the length of Deathly Hallows. Turns out those rumors > weren't accurate anyway. > > Per The Leaky Cauldron, Scholastic has now confirmed that their edition > will be 784 pages, so the 2nd longest of the series: > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#article:9634 > > Yippee! > SSS adds: Erm... let me tweak that just a bit. The subject line should have read DH book length, of course. D'oh! From icedragn at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 15:27:33 2007 From: icedragn at hotmail.com (Jacqueline) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:27:33 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: <324337.4827.qm@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Danielle: > The movie isn't really as good as the books are. So read > the books first then watch the movie.. Thank you for the advice Danielle ... I will definitely do that ... I did buy the movie but haven't unwrapped it from the celophane as of yet. :) Happy reading all Icedragn From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 21:26:31 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:26:31 -0000 Subject: Lost in translation Message-ID: A fellow list member sent me some delightful mistranslations from the Russian HP books. Here's a small sample, exactly as they were submitted to me, starting with those that made me laugh: Dudley, who was so large his bottom drooped over either side of the kitchen chair???(CoS 2) Translation: ???he was so fat that his flanks were hanging over the sides of the chair. A garden gnome in the process of being ???evicted???: "Gerroff me! Gerroff me!??? (CoS 37) Translation: ???Spin me around! Spin me!??? About the trip on the flying car: ???they missed the dark stone wall by inches as the car turned in a great arc, soaring over the dark greenhouses??? (CoS 74). Translation: In just an inch from the wall the car turned into a high arc and flew inside the castle. Harry advises Ron to write home to ask for a new wand, and : ???Oh yeah, and get another Howler back???, said Ron, stuffing the now hissing wand into his bag. ???It???s your own fault your wand got snapped ??" ??? (CoS 95). Translation: ???And get another Howler???, sighed Ron, stuffing into his bag the wand which hissed reproachfully: ???It???s your own fault!??? Duelling club, after the battle: Ron was holding up an ashen-faced Seamus, apologizing for whatever his broken wand had done??? (CoS 192). Translation: Deathly pale Seamus was hovering in the air, and Ron was apologizing??? Lucius Malfoy in Hagrid???s cabin: ???I simply called at the school and was told that the Headmaster was here??? (CoS 262). Translation: ??????I made a phone call to the school and was told that the Headmaster was here.??? And here are two that I found slightly disturbing because they miss the point regarding Harry's loyalty to Dumbledore: Dumbledore: ??????you will find that I will only truly have left this school when none here are loyal to me??? (CoS 263-264). Translation: ??????I won???t be gone from the school if someone here still trusts me???. and Dumbledore: ???You must have shown me real loyalty down in the Chamber??? (CoS 332). Translation: ???You must have shown real bravery down there?????? Anyway, I thought I'd share those (with permission from the list member who translated them). Unfortunately, the only language besides English that I ever took was Latin, and while there's a Latin translation out there somewhere, I couldn't afford it even if I could find it and it would take forever to struggle through it. I'm wondering, though, whether other readers have had experiences with translations that they'd like to share--funny errors or important mistakes that missed the point. I know that the translations of names have been a bone of contention, and I assume that puns like Diagon Alley, Knockturn Alley, the Griffin door knocker, and the names of the textbook authors are difficult or impossible to duplicate. The Tom Marvolo Riddle/I am Lord Voldemort anagram also presents problems. (The transcriptions of RAB, in contrast, provide a pretty clear indication of his identity.) I'm wondering especially about translations into languages that use stylized pictographs rather than an alphabet can translate initials or anagrams. Anyone else have examples or thoughts on the problems of reading the HP books in translation? I'm sure that the extent of the distortions depends in part on the language (the closer to English, the fewer problems the translator would face, at least in theory) and on the individual translator's ability to capture the flavor of the books in idiomatic Russian or French or Dutch or Spanish. (I can't imagine, say, a Japanese translator being able to convey the humor or the colloquial diction of the students or the various accents or the shifts in style as the point of view changes from a limited-omniscient narrator seeing primarily from Harry's pov to an objective third-person-dramatic narrator, or vice versa.) At any rate, I hope you find the first few examples funny, and I'd be interested in hearing more on the subject from anyone who's read any of the books in translation. What bothers you most about them, and what do you think the HP/WW experience is like for readers, mostly children, who read the books only in translation? What are they missing and which elements of the translations are potentially misleading? Carol, who sometimes needs a translation of the Briticisms even using the Scholastic editions From kempermentor at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 04:11:07 2007 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kempermentor) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:11:07 -0000 Subject: I have been taking painting lessons In-Reply-To: <46006361.28881.DA84C@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: > Shaun wrote: > Wanted to share. > > Quite proud. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/drednort/MyFirst.jpg Kemper now: Is it real or imagined? Either way, I would like to put my feet in the water. From n2fgc at arrl.net Wed Mar 21 04:16:04 2007 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:16:04 -0400 Subject: This may sound crazy, but--Question Or Warning Message-ID: <000001c76b6f$a45da190$66a4a8c0@rosie> Hi, I've been getting some strange messages and have to ask if there is anyone on list wih these names and email addresses: Christiana T. Martin or Goldberg X Horace .. If so, have your computers checked out, please? I haven't opened the messages, but they contain strange subject lines and a possible attachment. Just trying to keep us all safe. Thanks, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From sharon8880 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 14:09:18 2007 From: sharon8880 at yahoo.com (sharon) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:09:18 -0000 Subject: This may sound crazy, but--Question Or Warning In-Reply-To: <000001c76b6f$a45da190$66a4a8c0@rosie> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been getting some strange messages and have to ask if there is anyone > on list wih these names and email addresses: > Christiana T. Martin > or > Goldberg X Horace .. > > If so, have your computers checked out, please? I haven't opened the > messages, but they contain strange subject lines and a possible attachment. > Just trying to keep us all safe. > > Thanks, > > Lee :-) > > Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm > I may not care to lead; | N2FGC > Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at ... (or) > I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at ... > Walk beside me, and be my friend. Hello Lee & Everyone Else, My guess is that these are spam, spoof, or phishing e-mails. I've noticed the HP groups get them on occassion. Another group I'm in gets them alot. I just delete them without opening them in case there's a virus attached to them. I suggest you do same. Sharon From kkersey at swbell.net Wed Mar 21 15:53:58 2007 From: kkersey at swbell.net (kkersey_austin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:53:58 -0000 Subject: Lost in translation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: justcarol67 wrote: > ...and I'd be > interested in hearing more on the subject from anyone who's read any > of the books in translation. What bothers you most about them, and > what do you think the HP/WW experience is like for readers, mostly > children, who read the books only in translation? What are they > missing and which elements of the translations are potentially > misleading? I'll confess that I am for all practical purposes monolinguistic so I haven't read any HP in translation. (I was excited to hear about the classic Greek translation, but it has been more than two decades since I studied Greek and I'm afraid at this point it would be, well, all Greek to me!) However, I'm never one to let a bit of ignorance interfere with my wading into a discussion. :-) Anyway, last summer there was a thread about translations - I posted a link to an Umberto Eco essay, in which he discusses the very point you bring up, about missing/misleading elements that are lost (or gained) in translation; you can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30574 Another interesting discussion of translation issues can be found in Douglas Hofstadter's amazing book, "Godel Escher Bach". The subject of discussion is the translations into French and German of Lewis Carrol's poem "Jabberwocky", which is full of invented and nonsense words which nevertheless trigger a sense of meaning in the reader. "... in a poem of this type, many "words" do not carry ordinary meaning, but act purely as exciters of nearby symbols. However, what is nearby in one language may be remote in another. Thus, in the brain of a native speaker of English, "slithy" probably activates such symbols as "slimy", "slither", "slippery", "lithe", and "sly", to varying extents. Does "lubricilleux" do the corresponding thing in the brain of a Frenchman? What indeed would be "the corresponding thing"?" It was, I suppose, an attempt to address these issues that caused the Italian translator to mistakenly choose to substitute "Silencio" for Dumbledore. I don't envy the task of the translators of the HP books, who must work under short deadlines and must have to make a lot of decisions about what the author "really" meant - and just look at how much discussion HPfGU can wring out of a turn of phrase - take the Prophesy, for example. Here's a link to the Jabberwocky thing (just skip over the network/node stuff at the beginning if that doesn't make sense to you): http://www76.pair.com/keithlim/jabberwocky/poem/hofstadter.html He's also written a more recent book that is more specifically about translation, focusing on a single French poem which is translated over and over with different approaches by different people. I haven't read it yet, myself. I did hear Hofstadter lecture in the early 1980's during the time GEB was being translated into Chinese - a daunting task, as much of the book is about language and depends on wordplay - anagrams, palindromes, puns, etc. to make the points. So, just wondering, does anyone else think about the Room of Requirement when reading this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbolia Elisabet From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 16:38:33 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:38:33 -0000 Subject: This may sound crazy, but--Question Or Warning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (Mrs.) Lee Storm wrote: > > I've been getting some strange messages and have to ask if there is anyone on list wih these names and email addresses: > > Christiana T. Martin > > or > > Goldberg X Horace .. > > > > If so, have your computers checked out, please? I haven't opened the messages, but they contain strange subject lines and a possible attachment. > > Just trying to keep us all safe. Sharon responded: > My guess is that these are spam, spoof, or phishing e-mails. I've noticed the HP groups get them on occassion. Another group I'm in gets them alot. I just delete them without opening them in case there's a virus attached to them. I suggest you do same. > Carol adds: Also, if you're receiving them at a Yahoo e-mail address, just reporting them as spam will add the addresses to your blocked senders list. Carol, whose *real* (as opposed to Yahoo) e-mail address has suddenly started receiving spam from something called Limpo solutions and wonders where they got her address From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 16:46:16 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:46:16 -0000 Subject: Great new Snape article in Baltimore Sun Message-ID: Woo hoo! If you're as concerned about Snape's fate as Harry's, or just really, really hoping (as I am) that he's Dumbledore's man, be sure to check out the new article in the Baltimore Sun, "Under His Spell," about Snape and the fascination he holds for adult readers, mostly women. Here's the link: http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/bal-to.snape20mar20,0,6599615.story?page=1&track=rss Or you can reach it from the Leaky Cauldron if this link doesn't work. Carol, who does care about Harry but would not be nearly so addicted to the books if it weren't for Snape From arandall1983 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 11:05:19 2007 From: arandall1983 at yahoo.com (angela randall) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: myspace account Message-ID: <883181.91169.qm@web56608.mail.re3.yahoo.com> hi everyone. I have a myspace account if anyone would like it it is My URL http://www.myspace.com/angelarandall24 Angela Randall MSN: arandall1983 at hotmail.com Yahoo: arandall1983 at yahoo.com --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 23:19:39 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:19:39 -0000 Subject: A Piece of Some Historical Interest Message-ID: Godddlefrood: Some may recall that a while back I sent a link to a Daily Telegraph piece relative to books you could not pick up. Another article of interest, although unrealted to Harry Potter, has come to my attention. Apparently, to summarise, a picture of Lady Jane Grey, who of course you would know was Queen of England for nine days, has finally been discovvered. Here is a link, which may be better if pasted into your url spot: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2007/03/05/ngrey05.xml For those who may say, but surely there is a known picture of her in the National Portrait Gallery, here is a further link that will disabuse you of that view: http://www.britannia.com/history/ladyjane/portrait.html In addition, for those who may take my daily digest from The Daily Telegraph as indicative of any political views I may hold ;), that in fact I couldn't agree with it less. It is, however, a reasonable online digest service that said newspaper provides. Goddlefrood for the sake of interest. :) PS, enjoyed the Snape piece in The Baltimore Sun ;) From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Thu Mar 22 08:08:56 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:08:56 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What are you planning to read after HP Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/07 5:31:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes: > Carol again: > No, no! Don't skip OoP. I'm currently rereading it, and parts of it > are wonderful (all the Occlumency scenes, for example, and Snape vs. > Sirius Black at 12 GP. The DoM battle is also intriguing, but hard to > follow. I like figuring out which DE is which, but I'm weird that > way). "Mansfield Park" is possibly not the best of the Austen novels > (a matter of taste, of course), and it shouldn't take all that long to > read. Certainly, you should have time for it *and* the fifth and sixth > HP books. I grit my teeth when I read some of the Umbridge scenes, and > you might want to skip or skim them if you feel the same way, but OoP > was long for a reason; I think we'll find that parts of it that seemed > unimportant at the time fall into place when we read DH. > > Carol, who loved GoF and found OoP disappointing on a first reading > but thinks it improves with time > > > > > Sandy responds: Since I am not enamored with Snape, don't like him at all in fact, I can live without all of that. I totally agree about the battle at the DoM, very confusing and hard to follow. I couldn't visualize it at all, and I visualize fairly well. I am quite enjoying "Mansfield Park" although I will admit that it isn't "Pride and Prejudice". Unfortunately, I don't have as much time to read as I would like, and the older I get the slower I read. Actually, more than my age; I was critically injured in an accident 3 1/2 years ago and suffered a pretty serious head injury, and my memory and ability to absorb things has been affected by it. It has slowed my ability to read considerably, which I just hate because I have always been such a bookworm. Yes, when I am reading Umbridge, my teeth clench and my stomach knots and it gets to the point where I just can't take it anymore. Since she is in 2/3 of the book it is a little hard to skim over her. I have no objection to the length of OOP, it's the contents I don't like. I hope DH is every bit as long as OOP. Sandy, who hated OOP the first time I read it, swore I would never read it again, read it again anyway, and didn't like it any better. But, if I have time, I will read it again before DH, and will definitely read HBP. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Thu Mar 22 08:40:41 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:40:41 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] I have been taking painting lessons Message-ID: In a message dated 3/20/07 6:45:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, drednort at alphalink.com.au writes: > > Wanted to share. > > Quite proud. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/drednort/MyFirst.jpg > > Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought > > > > > > It's beautiful! How I envy artistic talent. I would frame it and put it on my wall. Sandy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Mhochberg at aol.com Thu Mar 22 16:01:50 2007 From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:01:50 EDT Subject: Great new Snape article in Baltimore Sun Message-ID: Thanks, Carol! This was a great article---concise, insightful, and a pleasure to read. While I am not a Snape fan by any means (I would never want to met him!), I have respect for his work and believe that he is Dumbledore's Man. Carol wrote: If you're as concerned about Snape's fate as Harry's, or just really, really hoping (as I am) that he's Dumbledore's man, be sure to check out the new article in the Baltimore Sun, "Under His Spell," about Snape and the fascination he holds for adult readers, mostly women. Here's the link: _http://www.baltimorhttp://wwhttp://wwhttp://www.baltihttp://www.balhttp://www .h&track=rss_ (http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/bal-to.snape20mar20,0,6599615.story?page=1&track=rss) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From zanooda2 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 21:47:23 2007 From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:47:23 -0000 Subject: Lost in translation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > justcarol67 wrote: > > ...and I'd be > > interested in hearing more on the subject from anyone who's read > > any of the books in translation. What bothers you most about > > them, and what do you think the HP/WW experience is like for > > readers, mostly children, who read the books only in translation? kkersey_austin: > - last summer there was a thread about translations - I posted a > link to an Umberto Eco essay, in which he discusses the very point > you bring up, about missing/misleading elements that are lost (or > gained)in translation; you can find it here: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/30574 Umberto Eco's article is very enlightening, especially for people who are interested in translation in general. Thank you for the advice! I'm very happy to find out that at least some authors care about the quality of their books' translations and don't want their work to be misrepresented. All of the things he said are very true, especially the part about "source-oriented" and "target-oriented" approaches in translation. I think, however, that both of these approaches are present in every translation, source-oriented being more important, IMO. Target- oriented approach should take over only and only in a situation where it's impossible to convey the meaning of an expression or a situation in the language A to language B readers without making some change. Some translators tend to use the target-oriented approach in situations where it is not necessary, IMO. I mean, in HP German translation, Uncle Vernon humming some German song instead of "Tiptoe through the Tulips"? Come on, this is just ridiculous! Vernon Dursley lives in Britain, and I'm pretty sure English is the only language that he knows. His knowing German songs would be just out of character. Besides, does it really matter what song he sings? It's not at all important to the plot or character development, so why change it? Going back to Eco's article, all his smart analysis and good advice are destined to help skilled and responsible translators to overcome some difficulties they may encounter in their work. Unfortunately, the only HP translation I am familiar with is that infamous Russian translation that Carol mentioned in her post. Russian translators messed it up so badly that giving them Eco's wise advice would be like giving to someone advice about refining his writing style while this "someone" is completely illiterate and doesn't know how to write at all. These translations are so inaccurate and sloppy (the first four, at least), that some normal translation difficulties should be the least of worries for the people who did them. Those people should first: 1. learn to stick to the original text without mutilating it 2. learn not to "invent" entire passages that are not in the original text 3. learn some basic words, like "cabbage", "toad" or "ferret" 4. learn to use dictionaries when in doubt, instead of writing the first thing that pops into their heads That's all the advice they need for now, not Eco's sophisticated stuff. They need to learn literary translation basics first! As it is, Potterverse in Russian translation is a bizarre world, where magic wands talk and Malfoys routinely use telephones, where Dumbledore walks around in sunglasses and Dudley is really (REALLY!) anatomically incorrect. In this world stalactites grow on walls, toad and turtle is the same animal, and belly and bottom is actually the same part of a human body. Garden gnomes here enjoy degnoming, and Hagrid's dream is to die young. Here, Lockhart knows how to curtsey and seems to be very excited about UFOs. In this world Fake!Moody blows his cover completely by announcing that he will teach the students how to do the AK curse; Harry allegedly manages to perform the Imperius curse; Fred and George actually believe at first that Harry is Slytherin's heir. And, oh yeah, the word "loyalty" is strictly forbidden here and must be replaced by any other word of a translator's choice. Nice picture, isn't it? Last touch: poor Seamus hovers in the air, looking at all this mess from above! I agree with you that HP books translation presents a challenge because of all the invented words, puns, wordplay etc. However, knowing how difficult it must be, I don't judge translators too severely if they don't manage to convey the meaning of "Gryffin door knocker" or "Knight Bus". But I cannot forgive incompetence, laziness and uncaring attitude. To translate "Knockturn Alley" is a challenge. To know the difference between "cabbage" and "squash" is not. The translator left "Vindictus Viridian" unexplained? It's all right, no biggie, I can live with that. But if he changed the writer's text so much that I don't recognize it any more, adding explanations, comments and entire passages from himself, this is unforgivable, IMO. This translator has no respect for the writer and for the readers. Maybe you will think I come up a bit harsh on the Russian translators in this post, but I can't help it. I love HP books so much and seeing someone mutilate them like this really frustrates me. Thanks again for the link! zanooda, happy that she knows English well enough to be able to read in the original From nkafkafi at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 03:19:27 2007 From: nkafkafi at yahoo.com (Neri) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:19:27 -0000 Subject: What are you planning to read after HP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Y Hilaire wrote: > > I think I will try the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. I read the > first one and didn't love it, but, I'll try a few others and see if it draws me > in. NOOOOO! Don't do it to yourself! Even readers who *liked* the first book are now sorry they ever started with this series. Neri From bunniqula at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 04:10:18 2007 From: bunniqula at gmail.com (Dina Lerret) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:10:18 -0500 Subject: OMG OMG fangirl *squee* moment Message-ID: <1a2738400703222110h4f811e2bkc1b5d74f3d5d7050@mail.gmail.com> For those in the US, the CW uploads full episodes at http://video.cwtv.com/ The Supernatural episode I'm having an 'OMG' fangirl moment over is Heart and it isn't uploaded yet but will be at that site. OMG! I gotta get the fangirl excitement out... OMG OMG OMG! {does girly hand fluttering} Oh. My. Gawd. Okay, I'm a Jared fangirl, but *daaamn*, for those times when I'm thinking how hot femininity is and how hot Jared's girlfriend, Sandra McCoy is (she's adorable and sexy)... OMG, wow, Jared Padalecki's body is *ripped*. Gotta get in another *OMG*. I agree with his co-star, Jensen Ackles, Jared should be naked more often. And then Jared's character of Sam is bawling his eyes out... aaawwww and Jensen does his Dean 'single tear' as he sees his character's brother... Oh man, I'm reminded of how some fans complain about when they believe some fanfic has guys crying too much, and well, {does windshield wiper motion} yeah, *major* waterworks in tonight's ep. Anyway, Sera Gamble wrote the ep, Heart, and her background with some erotica writing... oh my, {big grin} *nice* sex scene. I wrote this in a journal: "From an editing standpoint and totally shallow, the 'Sam gets laid scene' was filmed for gals... and gay guys. {g} Note most of the scenes focused on Jared's arms, chest, back, and hands." There's more to this episode and all the interesting moments, very angsty, *classic* Dean moments, *classic* Sam *and* Dean moments, and Silent Lucidity as the final song! I remember it from when it first came out. Post-episode watching excitement and even less coherency. Oh, and I agree with Killa when she wrote what attracted her to fandoms (http://killabeez.livejournal.com/224358.html ) and Supernatural's characters of Sam and Dean fit: "1. Take two beautiful, emotionally available, strong characters. 2. With a shared mission. 3. Who no one else can understand half so well as they understand each other. 4. Isolate them from society, and make them trust each other more than they trust themselves. 5. Make them go through hell together. 6. While engaging in periodic, emotionally revealing intimacy. 7. Mix in a heavy measure of interesting, preferably supernatural mytharc, and stir." Heh, and I remember Killa mostly from her Kirk/Spock fanfic. :-) Good to see her delving into SPN and Sam/Dean. >From amusing moments that made me smile to angsty moments that made me cry, good episode tonight! Dina From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Mar 24 07:34:05 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:34:05 -0000 Subject: Dan on BBC1 last night Message-ID: Members of the group may be interested to know that Daniel Radcliffe was on Jonathan Ross' chat show on BBC1 television last night. I hit the interview by chance. I often finish the day with a hot chocolate and on Friday will sometimes flip onto the show which starts at 10.30pm our time just to see if it's worth watching for a few minutes(!) I switched on at just the right moment as the interview was about to begin. It was quite informal and often light-hearted. Dan has been on the show before and obviously feels at ease. He talked about "Equus" and his feelings about preparing the ground for life after HP and the section closed with a trailer for OOTP. On the whole, an interesting ten minutes. Geoff Preparing to lose an hour's sleep as we go from GMT to BST tonight.... From n2fgc at arrl.net Sat Mar 24 14:46:27 2007 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:46:27 -0400 Subject: BST (was RE: Dan on BBC1 last night) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01c76e23$33d3d5a0$66a4a8c0@rosie> | Geoff | Preparing to lose an hour's sleep as we go from GMT to | BST tonight.... [Lee]: What does BST mean? Here in NJ and on the east coast, we have EST and EDT as Eastern Standard Time and Eastern Daylight Time. I understand the GMT, but never heard BST. Curious American Wants To Know. :-) Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From annemehr at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 15:53:18 2007 From: annemehr at yahoo.com (Annemehr) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:53:18 -0000 Subject: BST (was RE: Dan on BBC1 last night) In-Reply-To: <000f01c76e23$33d3d5a0$66a4a8c0@rosie> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force)" wrote: > > | Geoff > | Preparing to lose an hour's sleep as we go from GMT to > | BST tonight.... > > [Lee]: > What does BST mean? > > Here in NJ and on the east coast, we have EST and EDT as Eastern Standard > Time and Eastern Daylight Time. I understand the GMT, but never heard BST. > > Curious American Wants To Know. :-) > > Cheers, > Lee :-) > BST is British Summer Time. GMT does *not* change for summer time; it is always the same, so when Britain goes on Summer Time, it is an hour ahead of GMT. GMT never changes for summer, because it is *the* time standard for the world. Annemehr not a Brit, but there you go From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:07:47 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:07:47 -0000 Subject: BST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Annemehr" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the > Healing Force)" wrote: > > > > | Geoff > > | Preparing to lose an hour's sleep as we go from GMT to > > | BST tonight.... > > > > [Lee]: > > What does BST mean? > > > > Here in NJ and on the east coast, we have EST and EDT as Eastern > Standard > > Time and Eastern Daylight Time. I understand the GMT, but never > heard BST. > > > > Curious American Wants To Know. :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Lee :-) > > > > BST is British Summer Time. GMT does *not* change for summer time; > it is always the same, so when Britain goes on Summer Time, it is an > hour ahead of GMT. > > GMT never changes for summer, because it is *the* time standard for > the world. > > Annemehr > not a Brit, but there you go Geoff: Most of the EU shifts forward an hour around this time of year so that the relative time zone differences between the countries remain the same. We have had arguments raging for years in the UK as to whether to go over to GMT+1 all year round. From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 23:25:51 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:25:51 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview Message-ID: The latest interview of Dan Radcliffe by Jonathan Ross IS available on YouTube, but probably won't stay there for long. PART 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptbDwpaLJs PART 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYh2WGTKLXI&mode=related&search= Enjoy. Steve/bboyminn From kadedeetje at skynet.be Sat Mar 24 21:16:10 2007 From: kadedeetje at skynet.be (kadedeetje) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:16:10 +0100 Subject: Dan on BBC1 last night In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For those interested and able you could watch the re-run of the program tonight at 00:30 UK time on BBC 1. The press release of the program is on the BBC site and has a little on the conversation and a picture of Dan as well. Go to www.bbc.co.uk and search for "Friday night with Jonathan Ross" to get there. Below is the text related to Dan's appearance. Doyen of Friday night TV chat, triple Bafta-winner Jonathan Ross, returns to BBC One for a 12th season of his multi award-winning show tonight. Jonathan welcomes Daniel Radcliffe to the Friday Night With Jonathan Ross sofa for his only TV interview to talk about his metamorphosis from Harry Potter into sell-out bare-all West End star in Equus. "It's not that I want to distance myself from Harry Potter," says Daniel, "the whole point of doing something different is to show that you can, so hopefully it's achieved that... in any case, given this opportunity, you would be really dumb to turn it down." On preparing for on-stage nudity, he says: "There were ridiculous stories in the papers about me doing seven hours a day in the gym... I'm not that committed... "I wasn't so much intimidated by the part... even though I would be naked on stage and that was scary... but by the thought of going on stage and sustaining the energy for two-and-a-half hours." Daniel confirms he will star in the remaining two Harry Potter movies: "I'm going to do all seven, I was 11 at the start and I'll be 20 by the end... I genuinely think these films have got better and better." kadedeetje From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Mar 25 15:46:03 2007 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 25 Mar 2007 15:46:03 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 3/25/2007, 11:00 am Message-ID: <1174837563.10.82129.m27@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday March 25, 2007 11:00 am - 12:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! 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Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2007 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 00:36:52 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:36:52 -0000 Subject: BST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Geoff: > Most of the EU shifts forward an hour around this time of year so that the relative time zone differences between the countries remain the same. > > We have had arguments raging for years in the UK as to whether to go over to GMT+1 all year round. > Carol responds: You should move to Arizona, where we don't have Daylight Savings Time (what you call Summer time) at all unless you live on the Navajo Reservation. (The Hopi Reservation, completely enclosed by the Navajo Reservation, is with the rest of the state in not changing its clocks, AFAIK.) Of course, we do have trouble keeping track of the time in other states that do go on DST, and it messes up the time of our TV programs. Carol, thinking that the inventor of Daylight Savings Time should be brought back to life and forced to drink frog spawn From zeldazamboni at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 02:31:08 2007 From: zeldazamboni at yahoo.com (Zelda Zunk) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:31:08 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > The latest interview of Dan Radcliffe by Jonathan Ross > IS available on YouTube, but probably won't stay there > for long. > > PART 1- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptbDwpaLJs > > PART 2- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYh2WGTKLXI&mode=related&search= > > Enjoy. Dan was real cute talking about his beard and height. I always forget how candid Brits are about sex. The interview was delightful. I think that it is over at mugglenet as well. Zelda Zunk Corsets & Capes From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 06:31:30 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:31:30 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Zelda Zunk" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > > The latest interview of Dan Radcliffe by Jonathan Ross > > IS available on YouTube, but probably won't stay there > > for long. > > > > PART 1- > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptbDwpaLJs > > > > PART 2- > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYh2WGTKLXI&mode=related&search= > > > > Enjoy. > > > Dan was real cute talking about his beard and height. > I always forget how candid Brits are about sex. The > interview was delightful. I think that it is over > at mugglenet as well. > > Zelda Zunk > Corsets & Capes > bboyminn: Even thought the interview touch on what I will term some 'delicate' subjects, I think it did so in reasonably good taste. Though, a bit over the top for American audiences. Dan handled himself very well, I thought. He doesn't seem fazed when the subject turn to things that I think were intended to embarass him; though embrass him in a friendly way. He seems very much in control of himself and the interview, not shying away from 'delicate' subject, but at the same time, not allowing himself to be drawn too deeply into them. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Mon Mar 26 19:00:38 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:00:38 -0000 Subject: BST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > > Geoff: > > Most of the EU shifts forward an hour around this time of year so > that the relative time zone differences between the countries remain > the same. > > > > We have had arguments raging for years in the UK as to whether to go > over to GMT+1 all year round. > > > Carol responds: > You should move to Arizona, where we don't have Daylight Savings Time > (what you call Summer time) at all unless you live on the Navajo > Reservation. (The Hopi Reservation, completely enclosed by the Navajo > Reservation, is with the rest of the state in not changing its clocks, > AFAIK.) > > Of course, we do have trouble keeping track of the time in other > states that do go on DST, and it messes up the time of our TV programs. > > Carol, thinking that the inventor of Daylight Savings Time should be > brought back to life and forced to drink frog spawn Geoff: Certainly not!!! I wouldn't be without my Summer Time - and would support it being extended to all the year. I much prefer the light to be concentrated at the end of the day. I would treat the inventor of Briish Summer Time to a decent steak meal.... From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Mon Mar 26 19:05:26 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:05:26 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > > --- "Zelda Zunk" wrote: > > > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > The latest interview of Dan Radcliffe by Jonathan Ross > > > IS available on YouTube, but probably won't stay there > > > for long. > > > > > > PART 1- > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptbDwpaLJs > > > > > > PART 2- > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYh2WGTKLXI&mode=related&search= > > > > > > Enjoy. > > > > > > Dan was real cute talking about his beard and height. > > I always forget how candid Brits are about sex. The > > interview was delightful. I think that it is over > > at mugglenet as well. > > > > Zelda Zunk > > Corsets & Capes > > > > > bboyminn: > > Even thought the interview touch on what I will term > some 'delicate' subjects, I think it did so in > reasonably good taste. Though, a bit over the top for > American audiences. Dan handled himself very well, I > thought. He doesn't seem fazed when the subject turn > to things that I think were intended to embarass him; > though embrass him in a friendly way. He seems very > much in control of himself and the interview, not > shying away from 'delicate' subject, but at the same > time, not allowing himself to be drawn too deeply into > them. > > Just a few thoughts. > > Steve/bboyminn > Geoff; Speaking as a Brit, I wasn't in the least upset with some of the innuendos and humorous references - rather the opposite. The only time I quirked an eyebrow was over one of Jonathan Ross' comments very near the end of the interview. It was a change from some chat shows where the language leaves far more to be desired. The only trouble at the moment with Daniel is that he gets quite over-excited in some interviews; typical teenager I suppose. From bboyminn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 20:00:03 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:00:03 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Geoff Bannister" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > > --- "Zelda Zunk" wrote: > > > > > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > > > > > > The latest interview of Dan Radcliffe by Jonathan Ross > > > > IS available on YouTube, but probably won't stay there > > > > for long. > > > > > > > > PART 1- > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptbDwpaLJs > > > > > > > > PART 2- > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYh2WGTKLXI&mode=related&search= > > > > > > > > Enjoy. > > > > > > > > > Dan was real cute talking about his beard and height. > > > I always forget how candid Brits are about sex. The > > > interview was delightful. I think that it is over > > > at mugglenet as well. > > > > > > Zelda Zunk > > > Corsets & Capes > > > > > > > > > bboyminn: > > > > Even thought the interview touch on what I will term > > some 'delicate' subjects, I think it did so in > > reasonably good taste. ... Dan handled himself very > > well, I thought. He doesn't seem fazed when the > > subject turn to things that I think were intended to > > embarass him; ... He seems very much in control of > > himself and the interview, ... > > > > Just a few thoughts. > > > > Steve/bboyminn > > > > > Geoff; > Speaking as a Brit, I wasn't in the least upset with > some of the innuendos and humorous references - rather > the opposite. The only time I quirked an eyebrow was > over one of Jonathan Ross' comments very near the end > of the interview. > > It was a change from some chat shows where the > language leaves far more to be desired. > > The only trouble at the moment with Daniel is that he > gets quite over-excited in some interviews; typical > teenager I suppose. > bboyminn: By any chance is the part you objected to at the very end when J.R. says something to the effect that if you want to see Dan Radcliffe in Equus, or it you just want to see Harry Potters... /**cough**/ (polite term 'willie')...? Some have criticized Ross for making every interview about 'ME...ME...ME...' meaning Jonathan Ross himself. Also, many criticized his alledged ?18 million/yr paycheck. That seem excessive, I don't think Jay Leno or Dave Letterman make that much. Last I heard Letterman makes about US$17 million per year; Jay Leno a little less than that. So, ?18 million/yr (US$36 million) seems excessive and unlikely. But I do like his interview style, of course I haven't seen him a lot, but it seems like he engages in fun spontaneous conversation with his guests and allows them 10 to 15 of air time. Most TV Chat shows barely allow 5 to 10 minute per guest. The US Chat Show conversations seem spontaneous, but the have a pre-interview and the chat host simply works in all the bits that the guest has pre-determined that they want to talk about. Rarely are they ever put on the spot. Which is probably one reason why Jon Ross is also criticized. He does seem to try to get into potentially uncomfortable subjects with the guests. In a manner of speaking, he doesn't stick to the script and that opens the door for the guests to potentially misstate themselves or better yet be left speechless. But that unpredictability and true spontaneousness probably leads to some of the best parts of the interview. In both of Dan's appearances on the Jonathan Ross show, Ross trys to catch Dan or trick him into saying something controversial, but Dan is just too sharp. He seems to know just how to deflect any awkward or embarrassing taunts, yet at the same time is very comfortably chatting about things that might embarrass the average 17 year old. I really think Dan handles himself exceptionally well in both interviews. Just one more reason why I worry about Rupert. He doesn't seem to do well in interviews or in front of live audiences. That's why I think a stint in Stand-Up Comedy might be good for Rupert. It would teach him to be more spontaneous and outgoing. It would also teach him that a Chat Show interview IS a performance, not just a conversation. Enough rambling for now. Steve/bboyminn PS: does anyone else thing that Rupert might be a good choice for the next incarnation of 'Doctor Who'? From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 22:08:23 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:08:23 -0000 Subject: Daylight Savings Time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Carol, thinking that the inventor of Daylight Savings Time should be > > brought back to life and forced to drink frog spawn > > Geoff: > Certainly not!!! > > I wouldn't be without my Summer Time - and would support it being > extended to all the year. I much prefer the light to be concentrated at the end of the day. > > I would treat the inventor of British Summer Time to a decent steak meal.... > Okay, *British* Summer Time, maybe. But in Tucson, where the high temperatures in summer are in the 100s Fahrenheit (100 degrees F = 37.78 Celsius if the converter I used is correct, IOW, roasting), we need the daylight to end as quickly as possible! I imagine that people in, say, south Texas or New Orleans may not be overly fond of Daylight Savings Time, either, and they actually have to endure DST itself as opposed to its side effects. Carol, who also doesn't much enjoy having people from other time zones calling her at six in the morning because they think that Arizona is on DST like everyone else From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 22:58:41 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:58:41 -0000 Subject: Grint as Dr. Who ( Was: Re: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Steve/bboyminn > PS: does anyone else thing that Rupert might be a good > choice for the next incarnation of 'Doctor Who'? Goddlefrood: Even though the Doctor is immortal (or seems to be) I would say: "No, not if I were to live to be 1000") ;) From renee at thephoenixrises.org Tue Mar 27 05:09:41 2007 From: renee at thephoenixrises.org (merihastyent) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:09:41 -0000 Subject: Quidditch Teams Join Borders Riverside Classic Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MONDAY, MARCH 26, 2007 Contact: Renee Antoine, Media Manager press at thephoenixrises.org QUIDDITCH TEAMS JOIN THE BORDERS RIVERSIDE QUIDDITCH CLASSIC NEW ORLEANS, La., March 26, 2007 -- Phoenix Rising has announced the final line-up for the Borders Riverside Quidditch Classic, to be held on May 19, 2007, as part of the Phoenix Rising conference activities. 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Rowling and her representatives. ### From bboyminn at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 06:37:46 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:37:46 -0000 Subject: Grint as Dr. Who ( Was: Re: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "Goddlefrood" wrote: > > > Steve/bboyminn > > > PS: does anyone else thing that Rupert might be a good > > choice for the next incarnation of 'Doctor Who'? > > Goddlefrood: > > Even though the Doctor is immortal (or seems to be) I > would say: > "No, not if I were to live to be 1000") ;) > bboyminn: Here's the thing, and I'm sure you know this, there have been 9 Doctor Who's. The first one was very old, the second one was not quite so old. At this point the writers came up with the idea that with each new transformation or regeneration of Doctor Who, he would get younger. The current Doctor Who is in his early 30's. That means the next one should be in his middle 20's. In about 5 years when the current Doctor Who is ready to regenerate, Rupert should be about the right age. Personally, I can't wait to see the regeneration where Doctor Who comes back at age 16. It was just an idea. Steve/bboyminn From drednort at alphalink.com.au Tue Mar 27 07:56:31 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:56:31 +1000 Subject: Coats of Arms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46095ACF.19926.1DCEE85@drednort.alphalink.com.au> I just wouldn't have thought it was so hard to find these things... I am preparing this years Harry Potter game for the Conquest games convention (as I have been doing since 2003) and I really need to track down decent sized images of the Slytherin (and preferably Hufflepuff as well) coat of arms. I have decent sized versions of Gryffindors and Ravenclaws, but I just have not been able to find Slytherin and Hufflepuff except as very small shields. I am particularly interested in the coats of arms that can be seen in this image: http://www.injenn.net/~tania/houseslogo.jpg I am aware that there is another version of the shields - they really don't work for what I need for the game, though I may be forced to use them if I can't the larger versions of these coats of arms. Can anyone help me find these. Preferably as downloadable images, but I'd be willing to buy a book if I could be sure they were in them, and I'd be able to get it fast enough. It seems absurd to me that these things are so hard to find. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From sharon8880 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 15:27:13 2007 From: sharon8880 at yahoo.com (sharon) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:27:13 -0000 Subject: Daylight Savings Time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, SNIP SNIP SNIP > > Geoff: > > I wouldn't be without my Summer Time - and would support it being > > extended to all the year. I much prefer the light to be concentrated > at the end of the day. SHARON SAYS: I'M WITH GEOFF ON THIS ONE. I FUNCTION A WHOLE LOT BETTER ON DST WITH EXTRA LIGHT, BUT THEN AGAIN I'M IN METRO DETROIT. IT'S NOT OPPRESSIVELY HOT HERE MUCH. SNIP SNIP SNIP CAROL SAID: But in Tucson, where the high > temperatures in summer are in the 100s Fahrenheit Carol, who also doesn't much enjoy having people from other time zones > calling her at six in the morning because they think that Arizona is > on DST like everyone else SHARON SAYS: WELL CAROL, IT COULD BE WORSE. YOU COULD BE LIVING IN ALBERTA WHERE THEY DO DOUBLE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME-SPRINGING FORWARD 2 HRS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE. SHARON, WHO ISN'T MAD, BUT USING CAPS TO HAVE HER RESPONSES STAND OUT. From sharon8880 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 15:36:18 2007 From: sharon8880 at yahoo.com (sharon) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:36:18 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: > SNIP SNIP SNIP > In both of Dan's appearances on the Jonathan Ross show, > Ross trys to catch Dan or trick him into saying something > controversial, but Dan is just too sharp. He seems to > know just how to deflect any awkward or embarrassing > taunts, yet at the same time is very comfortably chatting > about things that might embarrass the average 17 year old. > I really think Dan handles himself exceptionally well in > both interviews. Steve, do you think Ross was purposely trying to catch Dan, or do you think it was all pre-planned? Sharon From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 16:55:28 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:55:28 -0000 Subject: Coats of Arms In-Reply-To: <46095ACF.19926.1DCEE85@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: Shaun Hately wrote: > > I just wouldn't have thought it was so hard to find these things... > > I am preparing this years Harry Potter game for the Conquest games convention (as I have been doing since 2003) and I really need to track down decent sized images of the Slytherin (and preferably Hufflepuff as well) coat of arms. I have decent sized versions of Gryffindors and Ravenclaws, but I just have not been able to find Slytherin and Hufflepuff except as very small shields. > Can anyone help me find these. Preferably as downloadable images, but I'd be willing to buy a book if I could be sure they were in them, and I'd be able to get it fast enough. It seems absurd to me that these things are so hard to find. Carol responds: Have you tried the Lexicon? The thumbnails of the four coats of arms can be found here (not quite the same as those at your link, but better, i think, because Slytherin is green and silver, not just silver): http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/w_pl_hogwarts.html And the two you can't find, Hufflepuff and Slytherin, here: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/houses/hufflepuff.html http://www.hp-lexicon.org/hogwarts/houses/slytherin.html Of course, if you use those two, you may want to use their Gryffindor and Ravenclaw versions as well so everything will match. Carol, hoping this is helpful From bboyminn at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 17:35:13 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:35:13 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "sharon" wrote: > > --- "Steve" wrote: > > > SNIP SNIP SNIP > > In both of Dan's appearances on the Jonathan Ross show, > > Ross trys to catch Dan or trick him into saying > > something controversial, but Dan is just too sharp. > > ... I really think Dan handles himself exceptionally > > well in both interviews. > > Steve, do you think Ross was purposely trying to catch > Dan, or do you think it was all pre-planned? > > Sharon bboyminn: I think Ross was trying to 'catch' Dan, but he was doing it in a friendly way. I think if he was truly antagonistic he wouldn't get many guests. In the first interview, Ross playfully asks Dan if he knows any Adult Jokes. Now Dan could have gotten flustered and stammered and stuttered trying to find a way out of telling a joke on national TV, or he could have stumbled his way through a Adult joke and came off looking bad. Instead, he simply replied to Ross 'Do you?'. Overal, I just think Dan handled himself like a pro. He knew just how far to go into delicate topics, and does so with calm confidence and no hint of teenage embarassment, but he also seems to have a good grasp of exactly when something would go too far and the sense to avoid it. I'm sure there were parts of the interview that were planned, though it seems relatively obvious that they were going to talk about Equus and the new Harry Potter movie. But beyond the initially setting and changing the topic of discussion, I think it plays out more like a fun conversation than an interview. Of course that is the mark of a good chat show host, to make caculated moves seem very natural and spontaneous. Just a few thoughts. Steve/BlueWizard From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk Tue Mar 27 20:36:54 2007 From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:36:54 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote: Geoff: > > Speaking as a Brit, I wasn't in the least upset with > > some of the innuendos and humorous references - rather > > the opposite. The only time I quirked an eyebrow was > > over one of Jonathan Ross' comments very near the end > > of the interview. > > It was a change from some chat shows where the > > language leaves far more to be desired. bboyminn: > By any chance is the part you objected to at the very end > when J.R. says something to the effect that if you want > to see Dan Radcliffe in Equus, or it you just want to see > Harry Potters... /**cough**/ (polite term 'willie')...? Geoff: Yes, it was the point where he refers to Harry Potter's cock. Let's use the word; it's a fairly harmless one... Although I am a practising Christian, I have no hang-ups about using informal terms of this type which refer to sex in one way or another. However, in this instance, my gut reaction was that Jonathan Ross' comment seemed to run against the "feel" of the interview and, as a result, it jarred with me. But I am merely remarking on what was purely a subjective reaction on my part. In terms of questionable language, what I do strongly object to is the use of the f-word and the c-word because their use often extends beyond their Anglo-Saxon meaning with reference to sexual activity and they are often used as pejorative terms in order to inbsult or express anger and they therefore carry much more in the way of undertones than the word we mentioned above. Please note that this post was written after the 9.00 pm British watershed. :-) From gwharrison53 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 23:10:34 2007 From: gwharrison53 at yahoo.com (gwharrison53 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:10:34 -0800 (PDT) Subject: View my photos* #2 * Message-ID: <200703272210.l2RMAZhn005931@upsa-web119.ofoto.com> You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy! You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=brptja83.6fwregbb&x=1&h=1&y=-fiscfn If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. 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It made it in time. :-) I wasn't certain because it was heading from Florida to Vancouver. The Supernatural poster on the right, follow the shotgun up, past the Seattle card is a Florida card! The picture is of a snowstorm and then tropical weather on the other half. The card was initially printed in Canada, shipped to Florida for sales, and then I mailed it back up to Canada. I was having such a crappy day and seeing that postcard again made me smile. Dina From drednort at alphalink.com.au Wed Mar 28 00:39:04 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:39:04 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Coats of Arms In-Reply-To: References: <46095ACF.19926.1DCEE85@drednort.alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: <460A45C8.11396.572EC0D@drednort.alphalink.com.au> On 27 Mar 2007 at 16:55, justcarol67 wrote: > Carol responds: > Have you tried the Lexicon? > > The thumbnails of the four coats of arms can be found here (not > quite > the same as those at your link, but better, i think, because > Slytherin > is green and silver, not just silver): Thanks - but there's another version of each of these - one that looks much more like the traditional coat of arms, and the nature of the game means that would be much better to use. If I have to, I will go with these ones, so thanks for the link, and these are better images than the ones I have of these, but I am really looking for the others. I've been told they are included as extras on the CoS DVD so I'm going to get that and hope the same extras appeared on the Australian DVD release - not always the case. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From drednort at alphalink.com.au Wed Mar 28 03:45:19 2007 From: drednort at alphalink.com.au (Shaun Hately) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:45:19 +1000 Subject: Harry Potter and the Descent of the Dark Lord In-Reply-To: <460A45C8.11396.572EC0D@drednort.alphalink.com.au> References: Message-ID: <460A716F.31735.61D78B6@drednort.alphalink.com.au> The teaser page for my Harry Potter game to be run at Conquest 2007 in Melbourne, Australia, can now be seen at: http://home.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/HarryPotterAndTheDescentOfTheDarklord.html Just in case anybody finds such things interesting. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately | www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html (ISTJ) | drednort at alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil Where am I: Frankston, Victoria, Australia From d_wakeham at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 05:22:11 2007 From: d_wakeham at yahoo.com (d_wakeham) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:22:11 -0000 Subject: Golden Snitch Bunting Costume for release day? Message-ID: OK, so I'm a huge fan, and I've got my hand-made Minerva McGonagall costume all ready for the release day party, and I want to bring my kids with me. The two year old I can easily pick up a Hedwig costume for, somewhere. But, the one who will be born in May... I could have sworn I had once seen a golden snitch baby bunting costume or sewing pattern to make one for sale somewhere. Did I imagine this? Or can someone set me on the right track? Or do you have other equally cute infant costume suggestions? (Just too young to go with the simple lightning bolt on the head, and that's sort of a cop out anyway). Thanks Diane From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 07:21:44 2007 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:21:44 -0000 Subject: Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books Message-ID: recently the Leaky Cauldron posted some link to Ramdon House which has samples of the Audio Books for each of the Harry Potter books. http://www.randomhouse.com/audio/features/harrypotter/ A lot of people have spoken very positively about Jim Dale's reading of the book, but I found his cadence, inflection, or rythm to be a bit off, especially on his dialog. I mean, he does a good job, he has a clear voice, but his dialog just doesn't quite seem to fit the mood. So, I'm wondering if there are any audio samples of Stephen Fry on the Internet anywhere, so I can compare them. I did look on the website of the UK publisher and also Amazon.ca, but couldn't find any. I think it might give the books a nice flavor for them to be read by a British person. Also, does anyone know if UK Audio CD's will play on USA audio equipment? Just curious. Steve/bboyminn From raymonddavenport at btinternet.com Wed Mar 28 07:39:08 2007 From: raymonddavenport at btinternet.com (RAYMOND DAVENPORT) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:39:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <842152.69835.qm@web86401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> jim dale's english Steve wrote: recently the Leaky Cauldron posted some link to Ramdon House which has samples of the Audio Books for each of the Harry Potter books. http://www.randomhouse.com/audio/features/harrypotter/ A lot of people have spoken very positively about Jim Dale's reading of the book, but I found his cadence, inflection, or rythm to be a bit off, especially on his dialog. I mean, he does a good job, he has a clear voice, but his dialog just doesn't quite seem to fit the mood. So, I'm wondering if there are any audio samples of Stephen Fry on the Internet anywhere, so I can compare them. I did look on the website of the UK publisher and also Amazon.ca, but couldn't find any. I think it might give the books a nice flavor for them to be read by a British person. Also, does anyone know if UK Audio CD's will play on USA audio equipment? Just curious. Steve/bboyminn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Wed Mar 28 08:04:14 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:04:14 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: BST Message-ID: In a message dated 3/26/07 2:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk writes: > Carol, thinking that the inventor of Daylight Savings Time should be > > brought back to life and forced to drink frog spawn > > Geoff: > Certainly not!!! > > I wouldn't be without my Summer Time - and would support it being > extended to all the year. I much prefer the light to be concentrated at > the end of the day. > > I would treat the inventor of Briish Summer Time to a decent steak meal.... > > > > > Sandy jumping in: I have to side with Carol on this one. I despise DST. I believe, Carol, that you have never known life without it. I, however, have. DST did not come into existence until I was in my mid-20's. I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now, but we got along perfectly fine without it for the first two and a half decades of my life. I am really unhappy about them extending it four weeks this year, and I presume every year hereafter. Yuk! Sandy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Wed Mar 28 08:33:39 2007 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:33:39 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe / Jonathan Ross - New Interview Message-ID: In a message dated 3/26/07 2:14:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk writes: > The only trouble at the moment with Daniel is that he > gets quite over-excited in some interviews; typical > teenager I suppose. > > I can't speak for this interview because I haven't seen it yet. I downloaded the entire interview off of The Leaky Cauldron but because of this dinosaur of a computer I am currently on I can't open the file to view it, and I can't access You Tube at all. However, I have seen many of Daniel's interviews on other sources and it is my opinion that he is a high-strung person by nature and that it has nothing to do with his age. I have always been struck by how different Daniel is as opposed to the way he plays Harry Potter, and I use that to point out how good of an actor I have always believed him to be. BTW, I bought a new computer this morning, which is sitting here in boxes in the middle of my living room. A friend of mine from work is going to come and set it up for me and transfer all of my files. Unfortunately, because our work schedules conflict, he can't do so until Sunday. This is torture having it sitting here and not being able to use it yet. I have downloaded dozens of Harry Potter related files, but not seen one of them. It is going to be so exciting to finally see them once they are transferred to the new computer. I will also finally be able to see the OOP trailer too. I have waited two years to get this new computer so I keep telling myself that having to wait a few more days to get it up and running is no big deal, but it is going to be a long four days. I just can't wait to see what a *real* computer is like. My old one; the one I am on now, is a Windows 95. It was given to me used, and is the only computer I have ever had so far. I have talked about nothing but my new computer all day today. I'm so excited! Sandy ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 08:27:34 2007 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:27:34 -0000 Subject: Audio 'Potter' due same day as book Message-ID: The new audio book is 21 hours long, for more see: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070328/FEATURES05/703280343 From sbejster at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 13:31:06 2007 From: sbejster at yahoo.com (Sandra Bejster) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Daylight Savings Time/Sharon In-Reply-To: <1175086136.1499.56028.m20@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <599872.25514.qm@web37209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> SHARON SAYS: >>I'M WITH GEOFF ON THIS ONE. I FUNCTION A WHOLE LOT >>BETTER ON DST WITH EXTRA LIGHT, BUT THEN AGAIN I'M IN >>METRO DETROIT. IT'S NOT OPPRESSIVELY HOT HERE MUCH. Sharon, you're in metro Detroit? So am I !! I'm on the West sid of Dearborn to be exact. You're kind of putting it mildly when you say it doesn't get "opressively hot" here much. We finally had to break down and buy a solar panel to try to heat the water for our 4' deep pool. The solar cover wasn't doing the job and we're tired of not using the pool because it's too cold. Wish us luck that it works. We sure had a beautiful one yesterday though, didn't we? 75 degrees! Of course, today it's supposed to be back down to 50 again. Sure beats the Summers in Florida, though. Talk about "opressive heat"! To keep this somewhat on topic, July can't come soon enough for me. I have visions of me sitting in my favorite chair on the porch devouring the final book. Fortunately, my husband and daughter are well trained to know to just leave me alone when I've got my nose in one of the HP books. It's kind of a "bother me and die!" kind of thing ... Sandra Dearborn, MI http://www.picturetrail.com/sbejster http://www.picturetrail.com/delana196242 Gdzie jest pokoj, tam i, szczescie. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From julia.m.french at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 13:37:29 2007 From: julia.m.french at gmail.com (Julia French) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:37:29 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28/03/07, Steve wrote: > > recently the Leaky Cauldron posted some link to Ramdon > House which has samples of the Audio Books for each of > the Harry Potter books. > > http://www.randomhouse.com/audio/features/harrypotter/ > > A lot of people have spoken very positively about Jim > Dale's reading of the book, but I found his cadence, > inflection, or rythm to be a bit off, especially on his > dialog. > > I mean, he does a good job, he has a clear voice, but > his dialog just doesn't quite seem to fit the mood. > > So, I'm wondering if there are any audio samples of > Stephen Fry on the Internet anywhere, so I can > compare them. I did look on the website of the UK > publisher and also Amazon.ca, but couldn't find any. There are short samples from several of the books here: http://www.webwords.org/clipinfo.php?id=512 I much prefer Stephen Fry to Jim Dale Julia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From zeldazamboni at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 14:54:16 2007 From: zeldazamboni at yahoo.com (Zelda Zunk) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:54:16 -0000 Subject: Final 'Harry Potter' cover revealed Message-ID: Editor Arthur A. Levine unveils 'Deathly Hallows' jacket on The TODAY Show. The publisher was moved. A true Potter fan. Spoiler alert: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/17828868/ Or http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633 I'm sure that you will be able to find this over as Mugglenet & Leaky as well. Zelda Zunk Corsets & Capes From n2fgc at arrl.net Wed Mar 28 16:01:27 2007 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Mrs.) Lee Storm (God is the Healing Force) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:01:27 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002801c77152$57ba42b0$66a4a8c0@rosie> First off, Jim Dale is, in fact, quite British. In fact, he got an MBE last year (I think that's the way it's written.) I can say that, true, the interpretations are different between the two. There are things I like that Stephen Fry does, and things I prefer Jim's interpretation on. They're both good, but I am a confirmed Jim Junky. Cheers, Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From irisraem at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 17:36:08 2007 From: irisraem at gmail.com (irisraem) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:36:08 -0000 Subject: HP release party in Scotland / Europe? Message-ID: Hi everyone, Some friends and myself (ages 24-35) are looking to go to a HP release party in July for adults in Europe. So far I have only been able to find Sectus 2007. Does anyone have info on other parties, convention, get togethers? All info is very welcome. Cheers, Iris From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 20:59:14 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:59:14 -0000 Subject: Daylight Savings Time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sandy jumping in: > > I have to side with Carol on this one. I despise DST. I believe, Carol, that you have never known life without it. I, however, have. DST did not come into existence until I was in my mid-20's. I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now, but we got along perfectly fine without it for the first two and a half decades of my life. I am really unhappy about them extending it four weeks this year, and I presume every year hereafter. Yuk! Carol responds: Actually, I grew up in Flagstaff, Arizona, where we never had it and didn't need it. I'm not sure that I even knew that it existed until I briefly moved to North Carolina when I was twenty and had to turn my watch forward and then backward for the first time (if it weren't for the mnemonic "Spring forward, fall back" I wouldn't have known which direction to turn it!). Heck, I get confused changing time zones when I'm flying. I never know what time it is anywhere else in the states and DST makes it more confusing. At least I know that in summertime, Arizona is on the same time as California (PDT = MST) and the rest of the time, California is an hour earlier. Idaho, OTOH, is on the same time as Arizona for most of the year, but an hour later in summer, which my mother inconveniently forgets when she makes an early morning phone call. Extending DST four weeks! May I suggest moving to Arizona? If you don't like the desert heat, try the cool pines of Flagstaff! BTW, I wonder how parents who live in more northern latitudes where the sun doesn't go down till, say, 9 p.m. during DST manage to get their young children to go to bed, much less to sleep, in summertime! Carol, who only has to deal with DST when she's traveling or telephoning or being telephoned, thank goodness From willsonkmom at msn.com Thu Mar 29 02:57:11 2007 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:57:11 -0000 Subject: Daylight Savings Time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carol asked: > BTW, I wonder how parents who live in more northern latitudes where > the sun doesn't go down till, say, 9 p.m. during DST manage to get > their young children to go to bed, much less to sleep, in summertime! Potioncat: What's worse, school is still in session when it starts. Trying to get kids to bed when it's very light outside is incredibly difficult! Even if you manage it on week nights, the well lit weekends throws the whole week off. Kathy W. From taguem at jmsearch.com Thu Mar 29 13:36:12 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:36:12 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Daylight Savings Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b701c77207$42230f80$4246dfdf@MichelleT> PA Mom here... and yes, bedtime is a little bit of a struggle...but with the increased running around they're more tired at the end of the day so they do fall asleep relatively quickly... unless the bigger kids are outside playing football in the street. Michelle _____ From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of justcarol67 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:59 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Daylight Savings Time Sandy jumping in: > > I have to side with Carol on this one. I despise DST. I believe, Carol, that you have never known life without it. I, however, have. DST did not come into existence until I was in my mid-20's. I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now, but we got along perfectly fine without it for the first two and a half decades of my life. I am really unhappy about them extending it four weeks this year, and I presume every year hereafter. Yuk! Carol responds: Actually, I grew up in Flagstaff, Arizona, where we never had it and didn't need it. I'm not sure that I even knew that it existed until I briefly moved to North Carolina when I was twenty and had to turn my watch forward and then backward for the first time (if it weren't for the mnemonic "Spring forward, fall back" I wouldn't have known which direction to turn it!). Heck, I get confused changing time zones when I'm flying. I never know what time it is anywhere else in the states and DST makes it more confusing. At least I know that in summertime, Arizona is on the same time as California (PDT = MST) and the rest of the time, California is an hour earlier. Idaho, OTOH, is on the same time as Arizona for most of the year, but an hour later in summer, which my mother inconveniently forgets when she makes an early morning phone call. Extending DST four weeks! May I suggest moving to Arizona? If you don't like the desert heat, try the cool pines of Flagstaff! BTW, I wonder how parents who live in more northern latitudes where the sun doesn't go down till, say, 9 p.m. during DST manage to get their young children to go to bed, much less to sleep, in summertime! Carol, who only has to deal with DST when she's traveling or telephoning or being telephoned, thank goodness [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From snapes_witch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 19:26:54 2007 From: snapes_witch at yahoo.com (Elizabeth Snape) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:26:54 -0000 Subject: Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Julia French" wrote: > > > > There are short samples from several of the books here: > > http://www.webwords.org/clipinfo.php?id=512 > > I much prefer Stephen Fry to Jim Dale > > Julia > Thanks for the link, it was very interesting. I'd like to have the Stephen Fry version, but they're only available from the UK and the exchange rate is not good -- nevermind the shipping costs! Don't know why Canada has the UK version of the books but Jim Dale's audio. BTW Stephen Fry has been appearing on the Fox series 'Bones'. Snape's Witch who hopes this isn't going to show up ten times From maritajan at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 20:35:40 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070329203540.81484.qmail@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? Thanks! MJ ------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/maritajan --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Thu Mar 29 20:39:23 2007 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:39:23 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: <20070329203540.81484.qmail@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070329203540.81484.qmail@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <048901c77242$5a217aa0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> I don't pay that much attention because I'm like 50 digests behind...but yahoo has been awful in the last few weeks. Michelle _____ From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MJ Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:36 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Main list Daily Digest Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? Thanks! MJ ------------------------------- http://www.myspace. com/maritajan --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From zeldazamboni at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 21:20:13 2007 From: zeldazamboni at yahoo.com (Zelda Zunk) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:20:13 -0000 Subject: Stephen Fry vs Jim Dale - Audio Books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Julia wrote: > > There are short samples from several of the books here: > > > > http://www.webwords.org/clipinfo.php?id=512 Oh thanks for posting that link. I love stuff like this. Books on tape works very well for me. Zelda Zunk Corsets & Capes From gav_fiji at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 02:03:12 2007 From: gav_fiji at yahoo.com (Goddlefrood) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:03:12 -0000 Subject: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: <048901c77242$5a217aa0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Message-ID: > MJ > Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. > Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? > Thanks! Goddlefrood: There were problems with YahooMort yesterday due to the high volume of posts throughout yahoo's sites relative to the book covers. Multiple posting of the same post resulted and many of the duplicates were removed by the elves. This results in numbers jumps. Hope that explains. Goddlefrood aka Marvin Elf From maritajan at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 02:35:10 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <836699.16267.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, the missing digest numbers pre-date the release of the covers. Yahoo-mort strikes again, I suppose. :-) MJ Goddlefrood wrote: > MJ > Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. > Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? > Thanks! Goddlefrood: There were problems with YahooMort yesterday due to the high volume of posts throughout yahoo's sites relative to the book covers. Multiple posting of the same post resulted and many of the duplicates were removed by the elves. This results in numbers jumps. Hope that explains. Goddlefrood aka Marvin Elf ------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/maritajan --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 03:10:05 2007 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:10:05 -0000 Subject: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: <836699.16267.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MJ wrote: > > Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to > them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps > in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily > Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. > > > Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? > > > Thanks! > > Goddlefrood responded: > > There were problems with YahooMort yesterday due to the high volume of posts throughout yahoo's sites relative to the book covers. Multiple posting of the same post resulted and many of the duplicates were removed by the elves. > > This results in numbers jumps. > > Hope that explains. > > Goddlefrood aka Marvin Elf MJ responded: > > No, the missing digest numbers pre-date the release of the covers. > > Yahoo-mort strikes again, I suppose. :-) > > MJ Carol responds: I don't think it had anything to do with the book covers since it happened on other sites as well--just an unfortunate coincidence. Nevertheless, the problems were at their worst yesterday. One of my posts appeared eight times. I deleted some of them myself, but then the List Elves requested that we let them do the deleting for fear that the original posts would be deleted, too. May I suggest reading the posts for the last week or so from the site rather than from your digest, which is probably utterly garbled? If you find that you prefer it that way, you can always edit your preferences to Special Notices Only. Carol, hoping that no one minds well-intentioned but unsolicited advice! From maritajan at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 03:27:53 2007 From: maritajan at yahoo.com (MJ) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:27:53 -0000 Subject: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > > Carol responds: > I don't think it had anything to do with the book covers since it > happened on other sites as well--just an unfortunate coincidence. > Nevertheless, the problems were at their worst yesterday. One of my > posts appeared eight times. I deleted some of them myself, but then > the List Elves requested that we let them do the deleting for fear > that the original posts would be deleted, too. > > May I suggest reading the posts for the last week or so from the site > rather than from your digest, which is probably utterly garbled? > > If you find that you prefer it that way, you can always edit your > preferences to Special Notices Only. > > Carol, hoping that no one minds well-intentioned but unsolicited advice! > I actually like getting the emails in the digest formula. I save them in a special folder and print them out and read them in bunches. I just hope I didn't miss too much, with the post numbers jumping like that. When I first joined this list, I got all the emails individually. !!!!!!!!! Bad idea! Bad idea! :-) The digest keeps everything organized, nice and neatly. Except for situations like the one now. I'm comforted that it is apparently not just me, though. Thanks for all the responses! MJ From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Fri Mar 30 16:03:18 2007 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:03:18 -0000 Subject: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "Goddlefrood" wrote: > There were problems with YahooMort yesterday due to the high > volume of posts throughout yahoo's sites relative to the book > covers. Multiple posting of the same post resulted and many of > the duplicates were removed by the elves. > > This results in numbers jumps. No it doesn't. Deleting messages on the group site will lead to gaps in the message numbers on the group site, but it will not lead to gaps in the numbering of daily digests. Once a message has been sent to a Yahoo!Group, that message will be included in the daily digests sent out to those of the group's members that subscribe to daily digests, regardless of whether it has been deleted on the group site. If there are unexplained gaps in the numbering sequence for daily digests, either Yahoo!Groups is having problems sending e-mail, the daily digests are getting lost en route to your mail box, or your e- mail provider is not processing e-mail from Yahoo!Groups (not normally a problem for Yahoo!Mail). Best regards Christian Stub? Who has been using the digest-option for a long, long time on more than one eGroup/Yahoo!Group From enlil65 at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 16:56:23 2007 From: enlil65 at gmail.com (Peggy Wilkins) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:56:23 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Main list Daily Digest In-Reply-To: References: <048901c77242$5a217aa0$4246dfdf@MichelleT> Message-ID: <1789c2360703300956q7b75fe7av49eb704605264728@mail.gmail.com> > MJ writes: > > Does anyone else get the posts on the main list emailed to > them as a daily digest? I've noticed that there are huge jumps > in post numbers in the ones I've been getting, i.e., Daily > Digest 7921, then 7947, then 7958. > > > Is it just my email that's not right or is it Yahoo? Peggy W: I have seen the same digest numbering problem in other Yahoo groups I get digests for. It's a bug: they're incrementing the digest number for every message included in the digest, plus the digest itself! I've heard that they're aware of it and I hope it's fixed soon, because with the bad numbering it's hard to tell if you're missing a digest without getting out a calculator... Peggy Wilkins aka "We Kingly Pigs" From valanys at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 31 12:52:10 2007 From: valanys at yahoo.co.uk (Valanys FantasyFictionWorlds) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:52:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: HP fans & new heroine Valanys Message-ID: <757826.51587.qm@web23408.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hello, HP fans ! Heard about Valanys ? Valanys is a new heroine in a heroic fantasy world (like Lord of the Rings) called Oredil where magic is everywhere and common practice. With a magician girl friend, Lyllian, and her fianc? Allan, all three roam their fantasy world, fighting demons and other beasties, riding dragons and facing many magical beings. All HP fans will love Valanys. If interested please pay Valanys a visit on her website: www.valanys.com See you soon ! Valanys From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 31 20:14:14 2007 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:14:14 -0000 Subject: DST / Shaun's shields of arms / talking dirty with Geoff Message-ID: Carol wrote in : << BTW, I wonder how parents who live in more northern latitudes where the sun doesn't go down till, say, 9 p.m. during DST manage to get their young children to go to bed, much less to sleep, in summertime! >> A nursery rhyme that I learned by heart as a child (because I love the sound) but didn't understand until I was in my mid-20s: "In winter I arise by night and dress by yellow candlelight. In summer it's the other way: I have to go to bed by day and hear the grown-up people's feet tip-tap tip-tap on the street". I returned to my native Los Angeles and only go to bed before sundown if I'm exhausted -- if I had to go to bed in daylight, I'd need to buy blackout curtains! But I arise at 5am (I want to catch the 5:52 bus, expect to catch the 5:58 bus, and often am left to wait for 6:12 bus that makes me late). I hate getting up in the dark (altho', when in a good mood with a clear sky, I appreciate the star-gazing on the bus stop -- a few years ago I was so into it that I could recognize Scorpius). The year had just turned to where I had pre-dawn light for my walk to the bus stop when we had to turn back the damn clocks. Shaun wrote in : << The teaser page for my Harry Potter game to be run at Conquest 2007 in Melbourne, Australia, can now be seen at: Just in case anybody finds such things interesting. >> Cornelius Fudge a Ravenclaw! Hugin and Munin will peck your eyes out! If he's not a Slytherin, he's a Hufflepuff -- go along to get along. Myrtle is the Slytherin. It looks like the plot line is interesting. I personally prefer the other shields of arms, but I wish I could opt to remove the scrolls with the names, to see just the shields. The version you prefer do have helms, crests, and mantling, giving me to wonder whether wizards would have helms or pointy hats for their crests to balance on. Geoff wrote in : << In terms of questionable language, what I do strongly object to is the use of the f-word and the c-word because their use often extends beyond their Anglo-Saxon meaning with reference to sexual activity and they are often used as pejorative terms in order to insult or express anger >> I object to that usage as being anti-sex. I especially disapprove of using 'the c-word' to refer to any male person one dislikes, as being anti-female. One time I had a fight with my ex about it. He always called all the other drivers on the road 'you cunt', and finally I said: "You could call the bad drivers idiots or assholes, but it doesn't make sense to call them after something you like so much and are always chasing after." In a related usage, one time there was a feud on a forum and this guy commented: "Everybody knows that Neil and Brian have had a hard-on for each other for twenty years." I asked him what he meant -- I knew WHAT he meant, but not why that phrase had been invented -- "I'd say Neil has a hard-on for Adrienne (his fiancee) considering that they're always leaving early to go to bed" -- and he never answered. Finally another friend explained to me that the phrase X 'has a hard-on for' Y means X wants to hurt Y for the same reason that alternate phrases for the same meaning include 'X wants to screw Y' and 'X wants to fuck Y' -- the assumption that the sexual act is highly unpleasant for the recipient. << and they therefore carry much more in the way of undertones than the word we mentioned above. >> "Cock" is a word for an anatomical organ and "prick" is an insult and "putz" is a different insult. (One time my bus passed a construction site and one of the big machines had a brand label on it "PUTZMASTER"). << Please note that this post was written after the 9.00 pm British watershed. :-) >> What is '9:00 pm British watershed'?