One reporter reacts to JKR's revelations

[Katie]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch" 
<delwynmarch at ...> wrote:
>
> Katie wrote:
> > Although you *have* argued repeatedly that 
> > JKR should have left gay characters out of 
> > the books because it might offend someone.
> 
> Del replies:
> No I haven't. In fact, I've repeatedly said 
> that a big part of my problem is that she 
> FAILED to write DD as gay in the books.

***Katie again: Fair enough. I guess what I was referring to, and I 
phrased it poorly, was that you have argued that saying DD is gay has 
now offended some people who now don't want to read the books, and 
she shouldn't have done that.


>Katie: 
> > I can't go through every post and pick out 
> > certain things that I believe were designed 
> > to offend people...but the overall tone of 
> > your posts has been very offensive.
> 
> Del:That's the way I feel about Susan's posts.


***Katie again: I am sorry you feel that way. I think she feels she's 
in a defensive position and needs to defend herself and her beliefs. 
I don't speak for her, this is just my interpretation of her posts. I 
could be entirely wrong. 

> 
> >Katie: No, I don't want people "adopting" some view 
> > that isn't their own. That's very disingenuous. 
> > What I *would* like is if those people would 
> > have a genuine change of heart
> 
> Del: OK, so in other words, you don't have any practical 
> answer. You don't like the way it is, you don't think 
> people should be the way they are, but you have no 
> serious alternative to offer them. Well, you know what?
> That's exactly how most people who have a problem with
> homosexuality feel too. Welcome in their shoes.
> And if they are bigots, then so are you, since you 
> refuse to let people act according to their conscience, 
> even while failing to offer them a viable alternative.
> 
> Del


***Katie:

First of all, please refrain from calling me names, since I have not 
called you any. I have been very purposefully talking about 
*behaviors* and *beliefs*, NOT people. I have done no name-calling, 
and I would appreciate the same courtesy in return. I am not a bigot, 
and I didn't say these people should not act according to their 
conscience. I said that their conscience should change. That their 
consciences are misguided, IMO. 


Second of all, if you are going to quote someone, please don't cut 
them off mid-sentence and not even write that it's a snip. My full 
quote was: 

"No, I don't want people "adopting" some view that isn't their 
own.That's very disingenuous. What I *would* like is if those 
peoplewould have a genuine change of heart and realize that gay 
people, or black people, or Muslim people, or whoever it is that they 
don't like, isn't a threat to them or their way of life. I wish 
bigotry would disappear. It makes me sad, pure and simple."


I don't feel there is a "viable alternative". You either see the 
light, or you don't, IMO. I wish more people believed in God. Is it 
my job to convince them of his existence?? I wish there wasn't war. 
Can I stop it? I wish people weren't bigoted. Is it my job to show 
them why they're wrong?? I'm trying right now! I've been trying to 
say for weeks that gay people are the same as stright, and that 
gay "lifestyles" aren't any different...etc.


My point is, I think I'm allowed to wish that something didn't exist 
without solving the problem all by myself. I just wish that we all 
could stop throwing insults at each other and hear each other 
instead. I am trying to hear you. Please extend me the same. Katie