One reporter reacts to JKR's revelations
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 9 10:15:26 UTC 2007
Susanmcgee wrote:
> But if someone presented me with evidence,
> with examples, with reasoned discourse, as
> has happened so many times in my life, I'd
> say "hmmmm..well, maybe I should rethink that.."
Del wonders:
Are you somehow under the impression that this
is the first time in my life that I'm discussing
homosexuality? Are you under the impression that
I have never been through that rethinking process?
If you are indeed under that impression, then let
me tell you that you are gravely wrong. I have
been in extremely deep and complex discussions on
that topic, I have rethought my position a number
of times, in fact I *constantly* rethink it,
anytime a new fact or idea is thrown my way
(something you haven't done, by the way: everything
you've said in this discussion, I've heard many many
times before.)
You shouldn't assume that just because people
disagree with you means that they haven't
carefully thought out their position and opinion.
> Really. So you think that people who think Asians
> are inferior can go through their life never
> communicating that to an Asian or Asian
> American or English person with Asian ancestry....?
No. But I do think that they can choose to express
their opinion or not when meeting those people.
Me, for example: I have a problem with homosexuality.
This didn't prevent me from living harmoniously along
with a couple of girls in the flat upstairs that I
strongly suppose were a lesbian couple. I was always
polite to them, I enjoyed their presence, I enjoyed
their personalities, and I totally enjoyed having
them as neighbours. I would NEVER have done anything
to hurt them. In particular, I would NEVER have gone
out of my way to inform them that I have a problem
with their sexuality. And you know what? Many
people in my Church act exactly like me. You could
live alongside us for years, talk to us every day,
visit with us every week, go on holidays with us, and
yet never know that we have a religious problem with
your sexuality. You'd have to ask us directly what
our Church's position and our personal position on
homosexuality are, to know that we have any problem
with it.
> How am I trying to control your thoughts?
Emotional manipulation: "I won't like you, nor
approve of you, nor recognise you as someone equal
to me in opinions and qualities (morality, compassion,
whatever), until you fully agree with me."
> Well, I think you confuse beliefs, which I
> contend can be changed through reflection,
> analysis, and experience, with the fact of being
> a lesbian or gay male...which for many people
> is not subject to change..
My beliefs are indeed subject to change... but
only within some limits. I have REASONS to believe
what I believe, solid reasons, that I can no more
deny than you can deny your exclusive attraction
to females.
> Now you say I'm in favor of a black and white
> (a racist phrase, by the way)..
No it's not. Every single phrase that mentions
the words "white" and "black" is not a racist
phrase. If it's racist, then tell me: which colour
is it in favour of? Black or white?
> and a morally totalitarian worldview? Huh?
> Where do you get that?
Do you or don't you, think that there is only ONE
right opinion about homosexuality?
> Del, please indicate specifically through citing
> one of my posts where I have tried to be a
> "thought police officer."
Anytime you argue that some opinions should not
be freely aired, that some things cannot be said
without automatically deserving verbal attack.
Del
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