[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: One reporter reacts to JKR's revelations

Kathryn Lambert anigrrrl2 at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 9 13:27:46 UTC 2007


Tonks <tonks_op at yahoo.com> wrote:          --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "susanmcgee48176" 
<Schlobin at ...> wrote:
> > Magpie:
Why are those the two "you could 
> > see" but there's a problem with Dumbledore? Because Lockhart's a 
> > vain pompous guy obsessed with appearance and Slughorn's a 
prissy glutton? 

Susan:> 
> Yes, Magpie, good point...it's okay if a cowardly, prissy, 
pompous, unethical Lockhart is gay...or if a old fat admirer of 
Riddle Slytherin is gay....THAT jives with people's stereotypical 
view of gay men...but for the bravest and best wizard in the world 
to be gay? 

Tonks:
I just want to point out that what you have just said above is also, 
what was the word we are not going to use? The B word. You are 
implying here that someone who is old, or over weight is seen as 
less that human. Slughorn, in your eyes, isn’t 'good enough' to be 
the gay one. You are saying that someone like Lockhart who is 
cautious, and cares about their appearance, is prissy and cowardly. 
Do you see my point? No one is without some prejudges against some 
group or other. The problem for me in all of this bickering back and 
forth is that truth gets lost. Whoever is not like US, is ‘them’. We 
are all discriminated against one way or another. Like it or not, it 
seems to be a fact of life. I wish it were not so, but it is what it 
is.

Tonks_op
old, fat, and prissy. 


  ***Katie:
   
  You're right, Tonks. Except that old, prissy people don't get beaten to death for being old and prissy. There aren't Hate Crimes against the old and prissy. I appreciate you're trying to lighten the mood, but I feel like these are serious issues. 
   
  There are different levels of prejudice. I am overweight. I have been overweight all of my life, and I have been discriminated against and ridiculed for it...but I would never suggest that my situation being chubby has any comparison with what African American people or gay people go through. 
   
  There's a big difference between the prejudice against fat people, or old people, and the prejudice against black people, gay people, or even women.  Those minority groups are in physical danger from the prejudices against them. It's serious stuff. I think that we cannot compare these - it's like apples and oranges. IMO. 
   
  Katie


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