One reporter reacts to JKR's revelations

[susanmcgee48176]

> >
> This is exactly my point, I have three kids who EACH have a set of 
the
> books and share a set of family movies, that's well over a thousand
> dollars investment.  I have also been on the boards since 1997-98 
and
> have a very personal investment here too.  The actual interview is
> censured here, but I gather from boards like muggle net, snitch
> seekers Etc. I have 5 listed right from JKR official site in honored
> web sites and fan clubs. that she did have a chapter edited out of 
the
> last book. I wish someone would find the thing and tell me where to
> get it.

Would you mind posting the citation for this? I am interested..


 I understood that is where these thoughts, enlightenments,
> statements are coming from.  I don't personally care what anyone's
> orientations are.  I believe it is my right as a parent to introduce
> this knowledge to my children as I see fit, 11 is too young, 8 is
> ridiculous.  I will say this board moves fast, it took awhile to go
> through the posts. 

Do your children go to school? Do they watch television? 
My kids go to school, and they are teh children of two women, and the 
Dumbledore is gay thing was not mentioned at all by the HP kid 
fans..they have no real interest in it...




 There was some verbal abuse about my secondary
> choice of Slughorn or Lockheart, well you are an age bigot.  Believe
> me you will all grow old and die, it is not exclusive to people you 
do
> not agree with. 


It's interesting..what I actually said was an analysis that it 
was "okay" for unattractive characters (morally and physically) to be 
gay, but not for a hero. I have called no one a bigot, but this is 
the second or third time I've been called names. Interesting...



 Really someone said Black and Lupin as a choice,
> Black yes because in the memory Harry saw from Snape there was a 
girl
> trying to get Black's attention and he was having none of it.  He 
had
> his reasons; I think that Lupon will raise objections because of his
> "hairy little problem."  I have to say to Del, that I thought some 
of
> the stuff I was getting was because of my email of churchmouse.  
Truth
> be told we bought an account with 7 email and we are all mice of one
> kind or another, computer mice, we thought it was cute the kids were
> little.  I do receive abuse from people jumping to conclusions about
> my religious faith.  Thank you Del you have taught me to be more 
proud
> of whom I am. 
>  This is me on the subject of sexual orientation; In the
> 1980's TIME magazine ran a story about gay men in San Francisco, one
> interview stuck out, the interviewer asked how many partners over 
the
> past year and one guy said 540.   There are only 365 days in a 
year. 
> Moving forward by 1983 I was in class with a Gay man, we had more 
than
> a few conversations, he was a female impersonator and brought in 
nude
> photos of himself.  He made a very pretty girl, they were taken on a
> door frame so you couldn't see that he wasn't female, then as he 
would
> say his
> hair began falling out and he had to change professions. At lunch 
one
> day his father walked into the restrant and the seen was
> heartbreaking.  Dad was there with his nearing home group and was
> surprised too.  They had not been in contact for a long time. Time
> passed I graduated and went to work and met the 2ed Gay man, Yes 
they
> have names but let's respect their privacy.  This man was married 
(to a
> woman) had a child and divorced, he then became gay, she broke his
> heart.  More time passed AIDS was in full swing, a bunch of Gay men
> fled to the Catholic Church, joined as priests because they were
> dieing and knew they would receive care there.  Which they did and
> that is why today you have to pass a physical to join a seminary, 
the
> cost nearly bankrupted the diocese.  I was involved with the medical
> profession, a lab Tec discussed a Gay man that moved on to stuffing
> rodents up his rectum, the animals try to get away and crawl deeper
> and then die, he came in to have them removed.  And was warned to 
stop
> that because of the damage he was sustaining.  He didn't listen and
> ended up wearing a bag (colostomy).  The only Gay woman I knowingly
> met was in SAM"S Club 4 years ago, she tried to pick me up, I still
> can't believe it, my husband's head was stuffed in the egg case and 
I
> yelled "Vince you got those eggs yet?"  and he was angered for the
> next two isles because I yelled at him.  She was a cute blond too, 
and
> ran the other way thank God.  When my oldest was 12, she came home
> from school one day and said "mom, I think I am Gay."  Why do you
> think that?  She said" because on the bus all the girls have
> boyfriends and most are having sex" I made sure she knew what sex 
is,
> and told here that the reason she did not have a boy friend yet was
> because she was 12, and 12 was still a child.  Also that in this 
state
> and this country even if you wore a black nightgown and said come on
> big boy, if you are under age it is statutory rape and is a crime 
and
> somebody is going to jail.  This is a brief history of what shaped 
my
> opinions, I have left lots out but you get the picture.  The
> Catholic Church and the pope say that being Gay may be genetic, but
> those that are should not act on it, and those that are not should
> treat everyone fairly and without persecution.  I don't have to know
> anything else.   I know they (scientists) just mapped the gene 
code. 
> There was a great piece on PBS, it took years.  Assuming the data is
> all correct, I don't think there has been enough time to understand
> it.  There is a doctor that Ann Landers quotes on the subject, but
> that man has an agenda being gay himself.  I don't depute the
> research, but the conclusion needs conformation by an unbiased 
source.
>  Good luck finding one.  So maybe the better question is what makes
> someone gay?  Because being sensitive, creative, artistic are HUMAN
> traits and are shared to some extent with everyone.  To me what 
makes
> you Gay is having sex with the same gender; if you are not having 
sex
> then you are abstinent.  So you can choose to be gay.
> Constant2Chatter
>

Well, Constant, I think we should all thank you for revealing the 
true attitudes of SOME people who have a problem with Professor 
Dumbledore being gay.

If JKR had said DD was in love with Gloria instead of Gellert, it 
might have made more sense to be worried about his molesting the 
children....most child rapists are men who rape girls (although there 
are certainly a subset of victims who are male)..and there are a few 
female perpetrators. The research (which I actually checked out 
recently as part of some work I was doing) is quite clear that these 
are adults who molest children...they are not really heterosexual or 
gay..

I find your comments totally offensive. There are a range of 
behaviors among heterosexuals and among gay men and lesbians. Let's 
take a look at the behavior of heterosexuals like Paris 
Hilton..people who get married and get divorced a month later....tons 
of heterosexual people with multiple partners, etc. 

My partner and I are in a long term committed relationship, we have 
been in one for 14 years, and will be in that relationship until we 
die. I don't go to parties, I didn't particularly like them when I 
was young. I don't have multiple partners. I've been "hit on" or 
sexually approached by hmmmmm probably 100 men in my life..while 
sitting reading in the park, or on an airplane, or in class....I 
think maybe one or two women have initiated a cautious conversation 
with me....I know dozens of lesbians and gay men, mostly parents 
these days, who are pillars of the community. 

I ask the other women on this list -- how many times have you been 
approached by men and how many times by women? 

I'm sure that there will be one or two people who will now attack me 
for not tolerating your opinions. I find them abhorrent.

Susan