Changing canon in the 7th book/Christian elements/LOL/Umbridge

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 13 03:50:01 UTC 2007


Carol earlier:
> 
> << (There's an apparent connection to the Spanish Inquisition--which I
> realize was not the only inquisition) in her title and tactics, IMO,
> but no one ever responds when I raise that point.) >>

Catlady: 
> Of course her title is a reminder of the Spanish Inquisition. I
don't recall having ever noticed you raising that point, but if I had
noticed it, what would I say to respond? Argue that 'Spanish
Inquisition' is so much all one word in most people's mind that it
never occurs to them that it had something to do with Spain?
>

Carol responds:
Actually my posts (I think there were two of them) postulated a
connection between Dostoevky's doubly fiction Grand Inquisitor and
Umbridge as High Inquisitor. No one responded. No doubt they thought I
was insane for suggesting it--or, alternatively, had not read "The
Brothers Karamzzov." the idea, briefly, is that both considered their
tyranny to be for the good of those they ruled (Umbridge's view of the
students as helpless children who need her friendship and guidance to
see what she postulates as truth). When sweetness and feigned concern
fail, apply the blood-letting quill--for the students's own good. (Or
authorize whips and chains.) After DH, I wonder if there's a bit of
the Grand Inquisitor in the young Albus Dumbledore--though he, of
course, would only use force if absolutely necessary for the greater
good. 

Carol, who thinks that "Spanish" is immaterial here and that it's the
goals and methosds of the inquisitors that may (or may not) be relevant





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