Sexuality! and Poor Writing! - JKR's Mistake
dumbledore11214
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Wed Nov 14 17:37:19 UTC 2007
>
> Magpie:
> Maybe we have different definitions of what "as a person" means?
> Because I'm talking about stuff like saying it seems like JKR
> basically thinks Harry's a good guy, that people who behave like
> Draco are jerks, that Ginny's a cool girl. That sort of thing. I
> wouldn't generalize it into something like "JKR approves of
> bulling!" or "JKR approves of child abuse!" but I don't read the
> book and feel like I have no idea where the author stands on every
> fictional issue. I've yet to have been surprised by the opinions of
> hers that she has given, for instance. Like, when she said, "I
> loathe traitors" about Marietta that wasn't shocked. I don't think
> it means she favors facial branding in general, but the impression
I
> got in the story was that Marietta's branding was something she
> enjoyed. Or, like, when she said Sirius didn't practice what he
> preached. That sort of thing. If there's a pov that nobody in the
> books ever seems to raise it does sometimes seem like the author
> hasn't thought of it. (Unless it seems like the author's
> specifically writing about a world without that pov to make a point
> about that.)
Alla:
Oh sure, sure, if you are just talking about being surprised or not
which characters she likes and which she dislikes, then I agree- it
IS clear, but anything else besides that point - not to me.
Because even the fact that she likes Harry, which again I think it is
absolutely clear to me does not translate into anything besides she
likes Harry. It does not translate to me that she would approve for
example of Harry casting unforgivables or whatever real life
equivalents of it, it does not translate to me in any knowledge of
real life values she stands for.
I prefer not to talk about Marietta, but when you mention her saying
that Sirius did not practice what he preached. I wonder in what sense
you were not surprised by her saying it. You thought it was clear
enough in the story and her interview just confirmed it? If yes, then
sure I agree, but was there anything else besides it? Was there any
reflection of any RL value, you know?
> Magpie:
> I definitely don't think she's crazy or evil, I agree.
Alla:
Right, that is all I am saying. I am just finding myself puzzled with
that point, that's all.
> Magpie:
> Oh, I didn't think you found the works insane. Many of his
> characters are, it's true. But I agree with what I think we're both
> saying here, which is that there's a complicated relationship
> between an author and what they write. It's really not so simple
> that anybody can just read something and really judge what the
> author is like in person. It's just so not like that. The stuff an
> author writes comes from such different places and stories take on
> lives of their own. It's sometimes almost like judging somebody
> based on their dreams. Yeah, it says something about them and came
> from them, but it's complicated.
Alla:
I like "judging someone on their dreams" metaphor. Not sure I
completely agree, but I like it nevertheless.
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