Wondering

[lizzyben04]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch" 
<delwynmarch at ...> wrote:
>
> Magpie wrote:
> > I'm not Del, but as I understood what she was saying, she's 
saying 
> > that people who oppose homosexuality say they do so because it 
is 
> > harmful, so they do consider it harmful.
> 
> Del replies:
> Thanks Magpie, that's about it, yes. 

Magpie:
> > Whether or not Del herself thinks it's harmful is a different 
issue.

Del:
> Indeed, and I have no wish to explain my position, which is 
neither on
> one side nor the other, or maybe you could say it's on both sides 
at
> once, but what's for sure is that it's complicated, even for me, 
and
> constantly evolving, and whatnot, so it would take far more than a
> post to even try and explain it right, so... Let's just say that I 
see
> and understand and empathise with both (all?) sides.
<snip> You explained it better than I ever hoped to do it! Again, 
thanks.
> 
> Del

lizzyben:

That's fine, & you're under no obligation to explain or elaborate 
your position, but I was trying to say that it could be seen that 
you believe that homosexuality itself is wrong or a moral crime, not 
just that "ebiophilia" is wrong or harmful. And since you haven't 
made a distinction, that could well be your position. And that's 
fine, if that's what you believe & defend. All I'm saying is that it 
gets slippery to sometimes refer to one group, sometimes to the 
other, without always making clear which group you're referring to - 
it tends to create the impression that there isn't a distinction, or 
that gays & pedophiles/ebiophiles are in fact one and the same 
group. And that leads people to the (false) conclusion that "it's 
lesbians and gays who molest children". IMO this confusion is 
partially what is causing so much controversy. And this controversy 
could be avoided if people make clear the distinction between the 
two groups. I'm basically just talking about the terminology, not 
even the underlying philosophical/moral issues.


lizzyben