Wondering

lizzyben04 lizzyben04 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 26 18:43:59 UTC 2007


> 
> Del replies:
> The thing is, though, that I *did* make that distinction, right 
from
> the first post. However, some people either ignored it, or didn't
> register it, or something, and so when they answered, *they* are 
the
> ones who started to equate/assimilate homosexuality and 
ephebophilia.
> Even now that I'm saying once again that "no, I don't
> assimilate/equate them or whatever", there are *still* people
> saying "yes you do, or at least that's what you think"! 
<snip>

lizzyben:

I'm not saying that you do equate them, & you've made the 
distinction clear w/DD himself. So, I understand what you're saying 
too, but I can also see how people could get confused. Especially 
once the debate turns from "ephebophilia" to homosexuality in 
general, & it's not clear which issue somebody is talking about at a 
particular time. So, people get misunderstandings & accusations 
because they're actually arguing about two different issues.  And 
once it turns to whether something is a "moral crime" & people don't 
understand exactly which group is being referred to, it gets very 
dicey. Especially because some people actually *do* equate the two.
And since your position on homosexuality itself is unclear... it 
becomes difficult to have a debate w/o knowing what that position is.

I actually don't have a huge problem w/arguing that DD is an 
ephebophile, heck, I've argued that he might be a psychopath. But 
what I don't understand is the leap so many people are making 
from "he's gay" to "maybe he's a pedophile!" After all, he was still 
invisible while presumed straight, & no one thought to speculate 
that maybe he was spying on female students then. 


lizzyben







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