One reporter reacts to JKR's revelations
susanmcgee48176
Schlobin at aol.com
Wed Oct 31 05:23:44 UTC 2007
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...>
wrote:
>
> Carol responds:
>
> (Do you see DD differently now that she's made that announcement?
> I suspect that you do. I don't see how any adult could read her
answer
> to the DD in love question and not rethink both DD himself and the
> DD/GG relationship, both of which we previously interpreted solely
> based on what's in the books--unless we factored in "the epitome of
> goodness" and accepted or rejected it, as we can't so easily reject
> information that she presents as "fact.")
>
> Pippin:
> I don't think I've rethought Dumbledore very much, no. But my
> experience as an art student put me in contact with a lot of
> gay men (and teachers) in a non-sexual context, so I've got a
> reference point that others might not have. It was a bit like
> finding out that Ian McKellan is gay -- did it change the way
> I experienced his performance of Gandalf? A little, but not
> much. When he hugs another character, it's grandfatherly.
>
> But when he offers a bit of chilly comfort to Theoden for the
> loss of his son, then there's an extra poignance in knowing that
> the actor has expressed regret that he never had children.
>
> When DD says, "It's our choices..." it has a more personal meaning,
> now, in terms of the character, but not a different one. As for
the
> DD/GG relationship, we don't even know whether Dumbledore
> realized at the time that there was a sexual component to his
feelings,
> much less whether he acted on them. He might have thought it
> was what people called "a passionate friendship" at that time. Which
> was how it already read to me.
>
> Carol:
> Does JKR mean that readers should question authority unless
> *she's* the authority, in which case, we should regard the
characters
> as hers instead of the general public's or the world's? Or does she
> mean question authority, period, in which case her own
> pronouncements are also subject to question?
>
> Pippin:
> This reminds me of a Talmudic debate, in which one of the Rabbis
> calls God Himself to witness that his position is correct. God
obligingly
> responds with a series of miracles, but the tribunal votes against
> the Rabbi anyway and God admits that he's lost. The Law has been
> given to man, man must interpret it, and God's opinion is no longer
> binding. That has been the position of Jewish law ever since, but
> you know, no one has gone so far as to tell God to stop expressing
> His opinions, though there are those that wish people would stop
> asking Him.<g>
>
> Carol, still recommending the article and hoping that Pippin will
read
> it if she hasn't already done so
>
> Pippin
> who read the article, and actually paraphrased its language about
> Arthur Dent in an earlier post. And who thinks a character which
> exists in child's play, action figures, video games, official and
> unofficial websites, theme park plans, and more fan fiction than
> anyone could read in a lifetime has become more myth than character
> already.
>
Folks, the problem with this is that many, many gay men have sired
children and many, many lesbian women have borne children....Sir Ian
may experience regret about never having had children..but in these
days he could have adopted children. Many of us have adopted
children. And many lesbians have done artificial insemination.
In fact, I spent the evening in another one of the homosexual
lobby/activists favorite tasks -- carving jack o'lanterns, and
getting costumes assembled for tomorrow's Halloween parade at the
kids' schools...
Susan
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