[HPFGU-OTChatter] The Beauforts Re: reverse dictionary (was: "Herb - Now Aluminum")

Janette jnferr at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 14:23:21 UTC 2007


>
> Carol:
> But do they contain pig's blood? I thought that's what black pudding
> was: blood sausage, and not a pudding in either the American sense (a
> creamy, custardy kind of dessert) or the British sense (a general term
> for dessert).
>
> A small cake with raisins sounds okay, as long as the cake is made of
> flour, sugar, shortening, eggs, and other standard ingredients.
>
> Carol, who can't tell from Geoff's description whether the cakes are
> delicious or barely edible


montims:
jumping in on Geoff's territory, though he is doing very well by himself,
and doesn't need me pushing my way in:

black pudding is indeed a delicious (IMO!) savoury sausage which can be
eaten hot or cold - I personally love it sliced cold, with the little hard
bits of fat in it...  but it is also very good fried...   I think it is
called pudding despite the fact that it is not sweet, because it is boiled
or steamed in its skin to cook it (Geoff?  Would that make sense?)  as in
England, anything that is steamed in a pudding bowl can be called pudding
(or pudden) - including my other favourite - steak and kidney pudding.  I
yearn for that in the states, as I do for real fish and chips.  Ah well...
Actually, yorkshire pudding is neither sweet nor steamed, so the definition
of "pudding" is arbitrary, it seems.

As for eccles cakes, don't be confused by the term cake - it is not what
Americans know as cake.  (And by the way - any Americans visiting Britain -
be aware that "coffee cake" means cake that tastes of coffee.  I love that
too, and was so disappointed in America the first time I had coffee cake and
it tasted of cinnamon, which I hate.  Brits - in America, "coffee cake" is
cake to be eaten while drinking coffee...)  Anyway - eccles cakes are flaky,
as Geoff said, and rich and delicious.  Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccles_cake and
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/870/845359.JPG and
http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/yourcom/salfordlife/aboutsalford/salfordlocalhistory/localhistory-eccles/ecclescakes.htm

The Jorvic centre http://www.jorvik-viking-centre.co.uk/index2.htm is a
wonderful recreation of York in the Viking Age.
http://www.ukattraction.com/yorkshire/jorvik-centre.htm  And Geoff never
mentioned the Shambles - http://www.yorkshambles.com/  - squint a little,
and it could be Hogsmeade...  And of course, you must visit the Moors, and
nearby Sherwood Forest, and so much more.

I lived in South Yorkshire for 5 years before coming to America - loved the
architecture and the landscape, as did my (American) husband,  But while I
assumed the Yorkshire, Derbyshire or Nottinghamshire dialects of whomever I
was talking to, my husband hated to hear it - to him it sounded clashing,
and lazy...  He particularly hated to hear children speaking it.  I place
Snape firmly in the terraced streets of oop north, and superimpose Spinners
End over D H Lawrence's Nottingham streets.


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