Dark is rising again - final post reread impression

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 22 20:09:23 UTC 2007


marion11111:
> I still go back to my argument that Merriman is less offensive to 
me 
> because he is that way -  always - to everyone.  What you see is 
> what you get.  Dumbledore is full of * as far as I'm concerned.  
> Now, of course, I only came to this decision after HBP when it was 
> clear as day to me that he set up the whole death scene and was 
> hiding so much from Harry. I didn't buy the "I did it for love" 
> story because he STILL didn't tell him the truth.  
<SNIP>
>
magpie:
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It's funny that for me I like Merriman more because he has no 
remorse-
-not because I have a problem with remorse, but because it seems like
he does things because he thinks they're right, and since he thought
they were right he can't regret them. He might regret hurting people,
but he would still stand by his decision. Dumbledore bugs me because
of exactly the stuff you seem to like about him. He seems to kind of
want to be cuddly and at the same time do these coldly manipulative
things, and get the support of Harry and be all tearful about it.


Alla:

Right, I of course agree with you both that Merryman is consistent 
and that way to everybody.

The point I am wondering about, Magpie, is why would you find him 
more likable if he does not regret the things he thinks is right?

What I am trying to say is that I understand that his consistency 
makes it easier to deal with him in RL, or someone behaving like him 
at least, since he is a higher being or something and does not exist 
in RL, lol.

But if he does not regret the things that he done, because he thinks 
they are right, that makes him more sympathetic?

I mean, I am not asking you of course to defend perception of him as 
more likable, since it is personal taste.

What I AM asking you though is do you think that Merryman is a 
better "person" than Dumbledore is, you know?

As far as you could evaluate Merryman's human part of course.

I mean, Voldemort also does not regret things he did and thinks they 
are right, no?

It does not mean that I will like him for that.

Just as despite the fact that Merryman thinks he did everything 
right or almost everything right towards Walker, I do not buy it at 
all OR ( since I am not sure of that part) if he deliberately 
brought Bran in this time for him to fight the battle, I do not 
think it is right OR despite the fact when he erases kids memories 
because it is the only right thing to do ( paraphrase), I do not 
think that it is right at all.

Does that make sense? Dumbledore I see struggle, oh yes, I do, but 
it is the fact that he **knows** that he did so many wrong things 
even though for good purpose, in essence same as Merryman's purpose, 
that is what makes me feel for him.

That he KNOWS he did wrong. Merryman is arrogantly sure that he is 
right in everything in my opinion.

So, again, I totally get why it is easier to deal with someone like 
Merryman in RL than with someone like Dumbledore. I mean, one second 
he will be telling you how much he loves you and then he would tell 
you you have to die. OOOOPS.

It is just while I would know what to expect from Merryman, I would 
not call those things good ones either.

> marion11111:
> Yeah, agreed on this one.  And really, why was it necessary?
> 
> So, I looked at my schedule the weekend this movie mess comes out 
> and I'm working all weekend.  Boo.  I'll have to wait until a 
> weeknight to go.  If you see it first, so ahead and post.  I don't 
> imagine spoilers will matter. :-)
>


Alla:

Too bad they do not sell alcoholic beverages there. ;)

And I do not drink, basically. It is like glass of red whine once a 
month, "maybe"

Should tell you a lot that I want to drink something while watching 
this movie :)

I promise to post me crying, yes.





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